1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,000 You know, and, and it's a community, as you guys know, 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,400 there's I mean in. There's a lot of crazies though, 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,600 man, look, there's a lot of crazy people in this community. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,160 So it's. John, what are you going to say 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,480 to that? He knows I'm crazy, he's one of 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,800 them. I'm crazy myself. 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,040 And and yeah, he's one of them. I do agree. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Welcome to Splendered Spirits. I'm your host Gary, and along 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,520 with my nephew John Santa from Santa Paranormal, we dive into 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,800 all things paranormal to ask the big question, what are spirits? 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,200 Our guest today brings a rare combination of journalistic 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,080 rigor and open minded curiosity to that question. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Christy Reeder is a long time News 12 anchor who has covered 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,800 everything from politics to parenting to consumer trends. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,440 But this fall she stepped into the world of the supernatural as 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,960 the host of Haunted tri-state, a new series that takes viewers 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,280 inside some of the most notorious haunts across New 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,120 York, New Jersey and Connecticut. 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,160 You can find the link to News 12 in the Blink Tree in my bio. 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,080 From historic homesteads to haunted bakeries, Christie not 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,880 only explored the stories tied to these places, she also 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,000 connected with the people who live, work, and carry those 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,360 legends forward. And along the way, she's had her 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,080 own encounters enough that she admits to keeping holy water 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,640 close by. We're excited to talk with 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Christie today about what she discovered on her journey, the 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,480 people she met, and how a journalist balances reporting 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,560 facts with facing the unexplained. 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,520 Let's dive into the conversation. 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Christy, how are you? Thanks for being on Splinter 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Spirits with us. Hello, I'm doing well. 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,080 How are you? Thank you. 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Where? Where are you today? 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Where does this podcast find you? 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,840 I am out on Long Island and Bethpage at our newsroom here at 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,680 News 12, so have a nice. 12 OK broadcast They broadcast Long 37 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Island got. It yes, yes, we have various you 38 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,440 know, we have we're all in the tri-state. 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,400 You know, we have newsrooms in Bronx, Brooklyn, New Jersey, 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,640 Hudson Valley, and I'm at the Long Island location today. 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,560 So Christian Splinter Spirits where you know, I got into this 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,800 whole thing because of John here, who's a paranormal 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,800 influencer and creator and documentary. 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,720 He speaks to spirits. I'm like, what is going on you? 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Know what the hell is going on? Much like what you're just what 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,400 you're about to do and we're going to dive into the series of 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,680 yours. But I like to ask all our guests 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,320 because I've been on a journey myself of talking to all 49 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,040 different peoples, people, getting a certain perspective of 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,000 it. So, but I like to ask this 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,240 question to begin just to get a baseline for where everyone's 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,520 coming, coming from. Christy, what do you think 53 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,200 spirits are? What do you think? 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,200 You get right into it. You get right into it. 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Yeah. Well, I guess I've always 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,920 thought it's a sort of presence. I think, You know, initially I 57 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,440 thought a spirit is like, Boo, you know, you see something, I'm 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,920 picking up a bottle. But the older I get, and then 59 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:57,280 probably definitely after doing this project, I feel like some, 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,240 you know, it can be different things for a lot of people, and 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,920 especially the people I've met through this project, it can 62 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:07,560 feel really, you know, heavy at times, a spirit, a feeling, 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,520 maybe a touch, you know, so it means something to different 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,440 people. But what does it mean to you? 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,760 I guess a spirit, I would say a presence that you just can't 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,640 explain. That's how it OK. 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,360 So you think it's OK? So you just, you look at it, 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,560 it's like it is something, there's something there that 69 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,400 exudes off of a possibly off of a person once they're gone. 70 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Yeah, nothing physical, you know, but yeah. 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,400 Yeah, a presence. That I just like to see like 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,600 where people's heads are as we, because we're talking about 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,680 ghosts. I just kind of want to know 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,080 where your head is with ghosts, right? 75 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,880 I mean, it's crazy. It's, it's, it's a crazy thing. 76 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,080 So, you know, as a journalist, you've covered everything, you 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,920 know, from politics to parenting. 78 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,680 I know these are big segments of yours, consumer news. 79 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,440 So what made you go down this road with both the tri-state? 80 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Did a producer make you do it or did you come up with it? 81 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,240 What what happened here? How did you get into this? 82 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,120 You know, I've. Yeah, right. 83 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,560 I've done everything. I love consumer. 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,760 I love saving money. And now I'm like, you know, 85 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,920 getting to, you know, ghost hunting. 86 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,920 Yeah. No, it was just kind of an idea. 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,760 You know, we always like to come up with different ideas for, you 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,040 know, different times of the year. 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,840 Somebody pitched it and then it kind of, you know what, what can 90 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,840 we get in, you know, in in this realm? 91 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,560 And then a group, our originals team, which is a fabulous team 92 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,920 here on in News 12, they started investigating. 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,280 So one of our producers, Jenny, she actually started looking up 94 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,640 different paranormal investigators in the tri-state 95 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,840 area saying, OK, you know, if we were to do this, who would be 96 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,160 open to it? What places could we get into? 97 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,000 Cuz like we're going into places like we need access, you know, 98 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,400 And so usually it starts with an idea and then then we see how 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,280 much we can actually do it. And then they're like, OK, who's 100 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:07,840 going to be a part of it? And then they approached me this 101 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:11,320 summer, I think it was in July, and I had AI had a talk with the 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,360 team, and I was working pretty much in the Bronx and at that 103 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,280 time at our News 12 office. And I remember having to chat 104 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:20,320 with them. And I'm like driving across the 105 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,760 GW Bridge and, you know, we're talking about ghosts and, you 106 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,440 know, and we started to talk kind of about our own 107 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,800 experiences just because this project was just getting 108 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,560 underway. And I'm like, look, I'm game for 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,000 whatever, you know? And then I kind of got nervous. 110 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,160 Like, what did I disagree to? So yeah, it was kind of an 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,000 evolving thing, you know, ideas. They, you know, a lot of people 112 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,920 have a lot of ideas. But then it's like, OK, well, 113 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,280 what can we actually do with this? 114 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:45,800 What? What story can we tell? 115 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,840 Can we make up 1 episode? Can we do multiple? 116 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,600 And it went from there. So and that, well, that leads me 117 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,720 to my next question for you is someone who's trained to seek 118 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:58,120 out facts and verify stories, how did you approach these ghost 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,800 stories and legends that can't be fact checked in a traditional 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,880 way? What how do you do from a 121 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,720 journalist, A journalistic perspective? 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:06,400 What? What is? 123 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,040 How did that look like for you? Yeah, You know, you're like, OK, 124 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,400 I I had a lot of questions like what are we doing? 125 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,560 I'm going into the house. I'm going to be stay. 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,000 And John, you probably are know all about this. 127 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,040 You're like, yeah, I'm doing it. But I'm like, I honestly, I'm 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,200 not going to lie, I was scared definitely for our first one. 129 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,400 All of them. I was, you know, I was a little 130 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,440 bit intimidated, scared going into it. 131 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,400 I had a rosary in my pocket. I would even carry it there. 132 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,720 I'm like, I don't, I don't know, you know, whatever you believe. 133 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,360 I'm a little tough. But but back to your question, 134 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,360 you go into it, it was more so and how they kind of wanted me 135 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,520 to approach it is I'm just, you know, an average person also 136 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,720 happen to be, you know, a journalist. 137 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,280 And I'm going into this like, explain to me first the history 138 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:00,600 of this place. I want to know all about this, 139 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,720 this, you know, place. Then I want to know about the 140 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,560 paranormal groups. We worked with different 141 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,080 paranormal groups for each episode. 142 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,600 So, you know, explain to me how you got into this. 143 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,880 So I ask all those questions. Then we go through like the 144 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,280 equipment that they have, you know, show what does this reader 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,640 do and why does it go off? So I guess. 146 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,080 It was, it was all the same shit, right? 147 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,440 I mean, they've got the SB-57, they got the phone apps, they've 148 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,080 got their EVP thing. I mean, it's all the same stuff, 149 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:31,560 right? For. 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,720 Sure. Yeah, there were the the meters 151 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,640 that would go off. There was one group that had and 152 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:43,080 they do the digital seance experience and they use white 153 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,040 noise to kind of. So that was kind of something 154 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,720 different that we got to experience. 155 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,200 So it was on different types of equipment, even the the rods 156 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,160 like the old school. The witch. 157 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,280 The witch sticks. The witch sticks. 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,880 I was like, what's happening? And then, yeah, it was each 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,440 group I think had a little like twist on their equipment, I 160 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,680 would say. So that was interesting. 161 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,640 And then one of the episodes, there's a medium who, and I 162 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,400 would say this is a tool who sketches what's coming to him. 163 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,360 So like sketches it like pen and paper. 164 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,000 Oh, that's fun. Right. 165 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,680 So that's good. For TV. 166 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,000 Yeah, well, yeah. And that's what I liked about 167 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,200 the news approach to it. It's like we want to see, we 168 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,000 don't want the same group and the same house and this let's go 169 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,720 to all these people and try with different groups to see, you 170 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,280 know, what's different and you know what can be told. 171 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,559 So that was all that part of it. And then we actually go to the 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,240 places and the places were great. 173 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,480 You know, they would. And that that's kind of like 174 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,760 what the producer, what I talked about, she had went out and 175 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,560 connected with these groups to see, OK, where have you worked 176 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:54,480 before? What would be a good place to do 177 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,960 this show? And and then they had the 178 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,040 relationships of these places, most of them just one, they 179 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,600 hadn't been there yet. And then, you know, we would 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,040 come in. And so it was like, kind of 181 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,080 like, here are the keys, have fun tonight. 182 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,720 And we would just go off and do our thing, which was wild. 183 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,560 I'm like, what? We get the whole, you know, Elks 184 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,480 Lodge or this Historical Society. 185 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,520 So, you know, so that was the, you know, so yeah, the news side 186 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,720 was kind of like, OK, let's go through the different teams with 187 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,280 let's explain all the equipment in case a viewer would be like, 188 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,320 I don't know what that that reader does. 189 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,360 So we would explain that. And then the last part of the 190 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,320 show is we take all of what we find. 191 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,480 You know, you know what we think we experienced and we show it to 192 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,760 a group of skeptics and like in a studio, we show them what we 193 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,880 find. So, you know, really getting all 194 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,640 sides of it. And, you know, it wasn't like 195 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,320 the they weren't, they were respectfully challenging what, 196 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,000 you know, we experienced, you know, they weren't, you know, 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 these, you know, 'cause everyone's working together. 198 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,720 And but it was neat to hear their take too. 199 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,240 And I would kind of be like, but I heard, you know, we'd go. 200 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,520 Before, you know, it's interesting, it's debunking is 201 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,000 something we avoid debunking. We don't talk about it too much 202 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,800 here at all, really. I mean, look, there's 1000 203 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,800 different 'cause I know what the answer is to that. 204 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,640 You know, it's, it's, it's, it's uninteresting. 205 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,320 It's an unfun story, right? To just say no, you know, it's 206 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,880 like, I know it, you know, it's like it could be this, it could 207 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,080 be that it could be that, you know, electrical waves, or it 208 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,360 could be this static frequency or it could be like, you know, 209 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,760 there's a glitch in the cloud. There's a whole slew of things 210 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,600 that it could that it might be, but we, the, the human 211 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,160 experience is far more fun, right. 212 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,480 And was there a moment for you when you got into this where it 213 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,640 really did? Can you can you point to any 214 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,240 specific moment when you first started where it's like, wait a 215 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,840 minute, I was here. I was as a neutral journalist 216 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,440 and now I'm, yeah, now I'm experiencing something 217 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,920 potentially paranormal. What was that? 218 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,280 That's the emotion that I'm. I'm interested in. 219 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,240 You know where? Was I the 1st place we went to? 220 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,600 I just walked in. It was the Mesir homestead 221 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,320 that's in Wappingers Falls in, in New York. 222 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,640 And it was just, it's like 1700s, you know, the history 223 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,840 there. And it just, it just gave a 224 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,560 feeling, you know, when you walk in and I did not want to be 225 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,760 anywhere in that house alone. Like they would say, can you go 226 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:19,840 over there? I'm like, who's coming with? 227 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Is somebody coming with me? You know, at one point they, 228 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,240 they blindfolded me and put me in another room. 229 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,880 And I was like, I cannot believe I'm agreeing to this. 230 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,800 And I listened to the, you know, the so I couldn't hear what. 231 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,400 Oh, she did the Estes method. She did the Estes method. 232 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,840 Yeah, yeah. We know, but I was like, a 233 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,400 photographer's going to be in here, right? 234 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,560 You know? I guess I have, I guess you know 235 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,280 how I feel like either way, whatever you believe, I don't 236 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,360 want to bring anything home. I've got 2 little girls at home 237 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,800 and so I'm going to be respectful. 238 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,520 So I would always be like, tell me what I need to do to make 239 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,400 sure they stay here. I don't want it to be that I'm 240 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,760 chancing anything. And you know, so we were always 241 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,400 like I said I would, I had the rosary in my pocket, whatever 242 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,160 they would say. There were a couple encounters 243 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,800 and I think, you know, the the first episode that we have where 244 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,360 we're we were at the homestead, there was like all of a sudden 245 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,160 everyone's feeling something in this corner. 246 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,240 And so they're like, we'll come over here if you want to. 247 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,920 And when I went over there, it was like, it was, it was like 248 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,320 static electricity, like on my finger, you know, it was, it was 249 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,320 weird. See what was that? 250 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was perfect time. 251 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,120 We didn't plan that. That's we. 252 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Didn't plan that I'm in. So I'm in a haunted building as 253 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,760 we speak and my cat is super sensitive so she is just 254 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,920 constantly seeing things and hearing things. 255 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,160 So you're going to hear that quite a bit. 256 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,760 Well, maybe she sensed that I really did sense something. 257 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,840 I like when you, you know, I, I respond to what you said about 258 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,320 you had a feeling right, Because I, I do believe in intuition. 259 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,880 I think we all have a fight, a fight or flight sense for 260 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,160 something, right? It doesn't matter. 261 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,320 You've been in a bar and someone walks in, you get a bad vibe or 262 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,360 so there's people in a room. We whatever that is. 263 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,200 And I think it might be heightened for some and and not 264 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,800 for others. And John, you know, you talk 265 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,600 about that feeling you get, which is like being inside, you 266 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,200 know, a jello mold when you feel it, like your Viber in a 267 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,400 weirdness. I don't, I don't like sense 268 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,920 energy. You know, to me, it's more 269 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,440 atmospheric. Like just as Gary described, 270 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,960 you're at a bar and then also you get a weird feeling and it's 271 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,800 like, oh, wait a minute, you know, who's this guy that just 272 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,400 walked in? Who's this chick that just 273 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,840 walked in, you know, or like, you know, or anything. 274 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,240 You could be at the supermarket, you know, picking out your 275 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,560 groceries and all of a sudden you get a weird feeling, like 276 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,880 what's going on here, You know, it's more of an atmospheric 277 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,160 feeling to me, you know, not like random energies and 278 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,600 whatnot. So I can only imagine, you know, 279 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,080 being a journalist from that perspective, going into a place 280 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,560 that's haunted and like, you know, as a journalist, you know, 281 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:06,440 you do have intuition, you know, when you think about it, I bet 282 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,840 I, you know, I mean, I don't want to speak for you, but it's 283 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,000 pretty much, pretty much it, right? 284 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,360 You know, when you're doing your thing, you know, you're going 285 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,480 with some gut feelings on certain things, right? 286 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,120 So I mean, I could only imagine what you were like going into a 287 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,360 place like this and, and, and doing the Estes method. 288 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,880 I mean, that's just wild. That was like your first swore 289 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,520 away into anything paranormal. Right. 290 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Yeah, They drove her right in. They got her. 291 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,480 Right in, right in. I guess that kind of helped me. 292 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,520 It kind of helped me too because I guess I like, aside from the 293 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,680 journalist, I'm a scaredy cat. Like this stuff does freak me 294 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,040 out so. But I like to be a good worker. 295 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,640 So when someone's like this is your assignment, I'm like, OK, 296 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,320 if it, if it'll make the shot look good, if we can take the 297 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,640 viewer to another place, I will do. 298 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,080 It, by the way, there's nothing weird about being scared about 299 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,760 walking into a haunted place at night and then, you know, being 300 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,880 blindfolded. If you said to me I wasn't 301 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,960 scared, that's weird, right? Right. 302 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,000 That would be the weird. Yeah, yeah. 303 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,080 So when you walked, when you saw these places, Christy, you know, 304 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,080 from, you know, whether that's the Miser Homestead or the 305 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,000 Boomtown Elks Lodge, when you looked at it from the outside 306 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,520 versus once you went in, which location surprised you the most? 307 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,600 You know, like if some of them you look at you're like, yeah, 308 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,000 that place probably haunted, I'm sure. 309 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,920 But then what? What? 310 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,480 What were some of? The things, the one that 311 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,200 surprised me the most, where I was like, you know, I got the 312 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,800 notes for it. It was a bakery out on Long 313 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:42,240 Island in Huntington Fiorello. Fiorello Fiorello, Dolce Bakery 314 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,640 and. Like a bakery. 315 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,400 And then I'm like, oh, maybe it's like an old house. 316 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,200 No, it's like a strip mall. I'm like, what? 317 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,560 What? What could be wrong, you know, 318 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,920 going on here? And that one got intense. 319 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,560 I mean, the owner, he's even, you know, put out a book on it 320 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,000 and you know, just hearing him talk and talking to multiple 321 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,280 times and then he would tell another story like after we got 322 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,080 an interview and I'm like, Oh my gosh, you know, we got to let's 323 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,640 get that on camera. You know, that was pretty, you 324 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,440 know, it's a it's a bakery and this bakery is like you packed. 325 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,680 Like people are going in and out as we're waiting to start 326 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,400 filming. You know, people are coming like 327 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,080 it's an average, you know, like everyday. 328 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,360 They're not like they don't claim to be like witches making 329 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,960 like love Donuts or something. This is. 330 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,760 Like a. Real. 331 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,440 This is like a real bakery. So happens to be haunted. 332 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Yeah. And So what did they tell? 333 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,320 Like, what? What did they? 334 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,880 Why do they think it's haunted? Unexplained things happening 335 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:46,560 knives falling down off of you know you know you know a rack 336 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,560 buckets coming down from you know like a storage place. 337 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,480 The creepiest part I, I almost want to save this, but I'll, 338 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,000 it'll be a little tease was when he was telling us a story about 339 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,000 how they walked into the bakery one day and it was, you know, it 340 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,640 was an early morning. They got to make all the, you 341 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,480 know, pastries for the day and the music was blaring and 342 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,160 they're like, who left it on? You know, okay, yeah, somebody 343 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,880 maybe left it on, whatever. Well, they, he has all these 344 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,680 cameras set up because so much has happened. 345 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,720 So they review the footage and you see it's just like the 346 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,240 bakery is closed, no one's there, lights are off. 347 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,600 And then all of a sudden the iPad that's on the counter just 348 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,840 like lights up. OK, maybe technology. 349 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,880 And then it's like, you see like the code going in. 350 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,120 Then all of a sudden music just starts playing and you can hear 351 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:45,720 it and it's switching the songs like Dancing Queen and going 352 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,840 through. Are we gonna get to see this on 353 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,760 the episode? I don't know 'cause. 354 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,600 I'm, you know, all right, we'll definitely check it out. 355 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,640 Told me so and that one in particular too, several 356 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,400 different mediums have gone into that bakery and they experienced 357 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,720 like different things. They had been there before you 358 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,520 know, we had come there that night. 359 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,120 So he's had several different people come through the owner of 360 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:20,640 that bakery and they would all come up with the same name of 361 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,320 someone that maybe died or something in the back alley of 362 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,360 this bakery. So it's like different people 363 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,800 coming in. And then when we came in, that 364 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,600 was the one time we came with a crew that had not been at the 365 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,720 location. And then they started hearing 366 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,520 the same name that the owner had heard. 367 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,760 And the other thing, you know, other, you know, I guess you 368 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,120 could say, so that was what. Do we think is this like a mob 369 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:49,560 run bakery once? Is that what we? 370 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,800 Think no, no is this. Where they used to start. 371 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,040 I mean, you know, I think it's been a couple different things. 372 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:00,600 He's had it for a while. It's yeah, it's, it was, that 373 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,520 was, that was the most unexpected. 374 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,080 I was like a bakery and it's small, you know, I mean, it's 375 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,640 just, you know, like your standard, like the front area, 376 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,920 maybe like a couple tables and then the back is, you know, the 377 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,440 bakery And I, I of course the teams like get in that alley, 378 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,160 Christy. Yeah, thanks. 379 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,480 Yeah. Christy, did you find a 380 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,560 difference when you were investigating, when you started 381 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,360 to do the research into these places between talk for the 382 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,480 people like talking to the weather, was the historian 383 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,080 versus the owner or any of the everyday locals and how they how 384 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,360 they each viewed a location? Did everybody look at it? 385 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,440 Did you sort of say like, OK, they'll in order to decipher 386 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,080 your own opinion or make your own opinion? 387 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,480 What, what was that like, that human experience of these places 388 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,800 as you were investigating it and. 389 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,360 Who? And who's carried the most 390 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:50,920 weight for you? That's tough. 391 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:59,040 It was, it was a great like variety of people that we had. 392 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,320 It was funny how open a lot of these places were to like, come 393 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,720 on in, you know what I mean? Like a Historical Society in New 394 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,840 or in Connecticut? They were like the Tuttle House. 395 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,520 We went there and yeah, it was like one of those things like, 396 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,480 oh, have fun. And they kind of looked at it 397 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,000 like, this is good for, you know, like, hey, talk about this 398 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,800 place having ghosts. And then while you're in town, 399 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,120 go to our, go to our downtown and eat it at the restaurants. 400 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,760 Like, they looked at it more as a tourism thing. 401 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,800 So, you know, different community members stopped by 402 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,440 before we filmed the woman that came with us for that, the 403 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:44,480 paranormal expert, that was Rose, and she is Connecticut 404 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,320 Spirit investigators. She's a part of that. 405 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:53,760 But she worked at and still does exorcisms and worked, you know, 406 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,400 with the Catholic Church in doing so. 407 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,920 And that place when you were talking to her, you know, like 408 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,160 when I was doing the interview. That place is this the Tuttle 409 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,720 House? This is the Tuttle house. 410 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,760 Yeah. It wasn't like she was, you 411 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,960 know, like, oh, and then they were, you know, spinning around 412 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,000 or, you know, she was very serious about her work, like 413 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,120 not, you know, you know, like, oh, well, exorcist are those 414 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:22,400 like, you know, she was very serious about it and not just 415 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,920 saying anything because I think it's so real, you know, to her. 416 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,440 And before we went in that one, she blessed us all with holy 417 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,400 water and we said a prayer and I think some holy oil too. 418 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,560 I'm like, I'll put it all, give me everything. 419 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,520 What are we getting done to Jesus? 420 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,440 Crystal, salt and sage. That's it. 421 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:49,680 Jesus, crystal, salt and sage. So I was like, what are we? 422 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:57,040 But so yeah, she and what she was doing was it we weren't 423 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,600 doing an exorcism there. It this is kind of like the fun 424 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,720 thing she does on the side because her work is so heavy. 425 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,320 She said, sure that, you know, every once in a while they're 426 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,920 like, where are some fun spirits to to go to? 427 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,960 So that was, you know, I'm like first I'm like, Oh my goodness, 428 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,000 is this like, you know, no, no, this is a fun house. 429 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,760 Like, you know. Got it. 430 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Yeah, It's always fun. Well, yeah. 431 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,760 So that apparently she comes at it. 432 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,920 She comes at it from a very religious almost, you know, 433 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,240 evil, demonic sort of presence, you know, like that's so that's 434 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,360 an interesting way to look at all these places. 435 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:33,880 But it's funny, you know, no one, no one ever said don't go 436 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120 in there, Christy, you're never going to make it out again. 437 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,360 Like that's right. That's the that's the dad side. 438 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:43,120 Of the thing, there would be a few places where one of the 439 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,680 people on the team would say this is too heavy, like I can't 440 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,680 go in that back corner. And so I'm like, well, I'm not 441 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,080 going there. You know, there were a few 442 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,920 places, the one place I went up to that they were like, like a 443 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,280 lot of people didn't like going up to was like a lofted area in 444 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,400 this gymnasium inside the Elks Lodge, you know? 445 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,760 Did someone tell you something that gave you chills? 446 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,440 Yeah, when we went up there, well, we were doing one of 447 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,600 those, you know, you know, the the process in the night and and 448 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,760 I'm trying to be an observer, you know, but it's a long night, 449 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,720 a lot of filming. And, you know, you're kind of as 450 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,120 a journalist asking questions and asking questions to ghosts. 451 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,440 I guess that's the first time I've ever done that. 452 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,440 And they, you know, you would say we were asking questions 453 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,080 like, OK, you want us to go to go back or, you know, what's in 454 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,600 the back of the place. And then, you know, it was like 455 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,880 turn around. Like everything was basically 456 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,160 correlating with the words we were seeing to like, turn 457 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,200 around. Like, you want us to go up to 458 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 this area. And then all of a sudden it's 459 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,160 like, you know, essentially. Yeah, we do. 460 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,400 And then we walked up to this area where there had been 461 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,400 different strange occurrences happen. 462 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,920 And I, I, I could have sworn I heard like a humming like a 463 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,600 choir. I thought, well, surely there is 464 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,280 the, because when I drove out to Boon, I was like, there's a 465 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,320 highway that's got to be that. And then they're like, no, the 466 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,880 highway is like further into town. 467 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,600 And sure enough, when I was driving home, I'm like, oh, it 468 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,720 is, you know, so that's. That's wild. 469 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,960 Did you ever feel anybody you were talking to was like holding 470 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800 back? Like keeping secrets or 471 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,960 something they didn't want to tell you. 472 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Not holding back, but I feel like I feel like, you know, Rose 473 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:32,800 has such she's dealt with people, you know that you know, 474 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,840 she's the woman who does exorcisms. 475 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,040 I feel like she's, you know, how she's done a lot of, she 476 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,200 explained people come to her, you know, when they're at their 477 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,240 worst. And so I think she's very 478 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,880 private in some of their experiences. 479 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,720 So but you know, as a journalist too, I feel like that kind of 480 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,480 makes it more, you know, believable when you're like, oh, 481 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,600 wow, you know, you know, you're not just saying, oh, this and 482 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,520 that happened. You know, she, she really took 483 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,000 to her work and what she does and the respect she has for, you 484 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,360 know, the clients. What about your crew? 485 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,840 Did they experience anything? I've seen things where crew 486 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,320 members are like, you know, they don't come back, they've quit. 487 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800 They're not into it. How did they, how did they, did 488 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,720 they experience anything? Yes, our photographer, yeah, 489 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,480 almost all our crew did. Our photographer, Chris, he, one 490 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,840 of our photographers, he definitely like every location. 491 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,920 And it was weird. It was like, you know, the 492 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,240 boxes, it would say like, you know, the the Phasma boxes. 493 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,280 It would be like Chris, Chris, you know, weird, you know, like 494 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,640 why him? You know, and he's like, I'm 495 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,720 getting freaked out. And then a few times like Jenny 496 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,320 would have like she would just get really like, you know, she 497 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,640 was one of the producers who kind of scouted all this out. 498 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,960 She would get like a feeling of just like, not feeling good, 499 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,080 like almost, you know, just I'll. 500 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,480 We've heard that before. Yeah. 501 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,240 And she, as soon as we would leave the area, she's fine, you 502 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,440 know. And so that was, that was odd, 503 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,400 you know, and, you know, I work with these people every day. 504 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,200 So it's like, you know. It's weird. 505 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,120 So do you feel after after visiting all these, these spots, 506 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:23,560 these four spots, do you feel paranormal is more about the 507 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,760 place or the people who are carrying these stories and 508 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,680 legends forward? It's a. 509 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Good question. The people are the places. 510 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,080 I don't know. I mean, I feel like, I feel like 511 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,600 a lot of them is what you're open to that can kind of change 512 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,160 your experience, you know, if you're quiet and listening and, 513 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,280 you know, respectful. And, you know, what I liked 514 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,280 about, you know, the show and I think there's something for 515 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,760 everyone is, you know, like there's a lot of history. 516 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,200 So, you know, in a lot of towns you hear, oh, that place is 517 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,800 haunted. So it's like, OK, well, let's 518 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560 why do people think it is? And then let's go in. 519 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:13,440 So I think it's kind of, you know, kind of, I guess looking 520 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,720 into a hot topic in town of what everyone you know, is talking 521 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,360 about and then kind of letting people make their own. 522 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,920 You know, we got that's the whole show is we want people to 523 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,280 try to figure out what they think at the end of it. 524 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,280 And we try to give all sides. We're not trying to push, you 525 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,680 know, OK, ghosts here or there or that's what you think. 526 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,560 So. And is that so? 527 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,080 What? Is this is this did did this 528 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,880 change your perspective from when you know you started this 529 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,240 to, you know, after you, you filmed everything and you 530 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,720 experienced everything, did your perspective change with the 531 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,240 paranormal? Yeah, I I definitely think so. 532 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,200 I think that I didn't know there was all this, these type, these 533 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,800 different ways that the groups go about communicating. 534 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,160 I you know, there's a lot of time that goes into it. 535 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,880 It's not just like you go into a house and it's like, what was 536 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,360 that? You know, it's like a lot of 537 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:20,480 waiting and sitting around and and piercing together things 538 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840 like some of these groups, they've been to a place multiple 539 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,160 times and then they would be like, oh, wait, we got this from 540 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,920 the last session. So I definitely think it's 541 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,240 something that you, you know, you're open to. 542 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,760 I think the whole process too, made me a little less scared in 543 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:39,920 the sense that sometimes people find comfort in this, you know, 544 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,400 if you're trying to communicate with a loved one or. 545 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,640 And I never really kind of looked at it that way. 546 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,200 I mean, I guess, you know, I thought it popped in my mind, 547 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920 but, you know, talking to some of the people in the work 548 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320 they've done outside these places, you know, you're, you 549 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760 know, especially that that sketch artist, like sometimes he 550 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,720 would, a vision would come to him and you'd turn it around and 551 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,000 it'd be like, that's my grandma or, you know, so that's kind of, 552 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,720 you know, I think people find comfort. 553 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,760 I think the biggest thing was realizing how this can mean so 554 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 many different things to so many different people. 555 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800 You know what I mean? Like I take from it, yeah, like 556 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,560 you could have a different feeling and experience than I 557 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,960 do. And maybe that's because you 558 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,720 believe more and maybe I don't as much or maybe you're more 559 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,240 open and I'm not, you know. So I think that's, you know, and 560 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,800 and it's a community, as you guys know, there's I mean in 561 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,440 there's a lot of. Crazies though, man, look, 562 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,400 there's a lot of crazy people in this community, so it's. 563 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480 A little John, what are? You going to say to that? 564 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,080 He knows he's crazy. He's one of them. 565 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,400 I'm crazy myself. And and yeah, he's one of them. 566 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,560 I do agree it could give you. But well, what you're saying 567 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680 about like the perspective and how like different things mean, 568 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,040 you know, different things. Like I'll give you an example. 569 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,280 Last night I was here in the tower due to the wind and 570 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,320 weather, and a spirit came through, I think, I can't 571 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,760 remember what they said their name was. 572 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,600 They said, you know, my name is this. 573 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,280 And they're coming through. And then the spirit said, I'm 574 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,480 going to protect you to me. So I turned around and I'm like, 575 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,760 I don't need your protection. Who are you? 576 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,040 I've never heard of you before. And then I asked my audience I 577 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160 had, I had 500 people watching me. 578 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,360 And I said, hey guys, do you think this spirit is here to 579 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,560 protect me? Or do you think it's a spirit 580 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,760 that you know, is a random spirit either trying to attach 581 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880 to me or something, right? So is there, do you, do you 582 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,000 believe wholeheartedly that the spirit is here to protect me? 583 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,560 And everybody had mixed, you know, answers because as you 584 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,760 said, everybody feels differently about this, that and 585 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,160 the other. And then like clockwork, 5 586 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,200 seconds later, it said, this spirit is not to be trusted. 587 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880 This spirit isn't who they claim to be. 588 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,040 And I just, you know, and it's like, you know, they're, 589 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,640 they're. John uses the apps, Christy, 590 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,680 you've seen some of these apps now you know, so he uses a he 591 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,080 has a few go to that that he used. 592 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,000 This is where when he says they came through, this is what 593 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,680 they're this is he's literally hearing it. 594 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,000 And John is primarily a lot, really, he's all a live 595 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,120 influencer. So everything he's doing is 596 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,520 live. So the audience hears it as he's 597 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,240 doing it, you know, and you've seen how they work. 598 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,600 So it's coming through when it comes to. 599 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640 I I know the, I know the equipment now. 600 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120 Now you know, now you're in it, now you're in the tribe, as they 601 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,920 say, with this ghost stuff, right? 602 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,360 What? Would you ever do it again? 603 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,920 Would you ever go back out there? 604 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,600 Where would you want to go? Now that you know, now that 605 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,160 you've seen it, where do you want to go? 606 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080 You know, so many people have like, if when they hear about 607 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,240 the project, Oh my goodness, what did you see? 608 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,400 Can we look at your files and all of that? 609 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Like, you know, people that we work with and people in the 610 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,880 community, like, you know, it's interesting because like, it's 611 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,960 all of a sudden something that people will talk about. 612 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,400 They like, it's, you know, so, you know, like they want to Give 613 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,360 your opinion. They'll tell you stories. 614 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,560 There'll be a driver being like, yeah, I saw Cher just move 615 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,440 across the room. I'm like, Oh my goodness, you 616 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,400 know, so it's like wild, like people feel really open about 617 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920 talking about it, which is kind of interesting because it is 618 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,640 kind of a deep topic, but a lot of people, they're so fascinated 619 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,240 by it. So I would definitely do it 620 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,840 again. As far as places, I feel like I 621 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,640 have a list going already because we would go to, you 622 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760 know, we have to set places and then people like, you know what 623 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,560 you should go to and, you know, it's a road that you know, all 624 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840 the kids would go to when we were younger. 625 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,880 You're. Talking about Buck out. 626 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,640 You're talking about Buck out, right? 627 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040 When you said that Westchester, you know that's Buck out. 628 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Yeah, The road that everyone would go to. 629 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,840 That's one of my. I document Buck. 630 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,440 Out. John's, John's live from buck 631 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,440 out all the time. You know, you got the Merchant 632 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,800 House in New York City and you know, there's a great parent. 633 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,400 There's a great investigator, Dan Sturgis, who's been studying 634 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,760 that place for like 18 years, who, you know, who would tell 635 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,680 you the insurance and outs of that haunted facility. 636 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,520 I mean, there's so many great places, right? 637 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,040 What is it? The Algonquin Hotel? 638 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,640 It's another. Girl, the Algonquin Hotel, the 639 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,440 city is great. So are these suggestions you 640 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,520 guys have for us? Maybe I should ask you. 641 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,240 Yeah, there's some places. I mean, these are like anytime, 642 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200 yeah. I've got, I've got a list of 643 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,880 places here in Westchester that are, you know, definitely, 644 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,760 definitely haunted. Yeah, there's a lot, you know, 645 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760 you know, John, John spends a lot of time in cemeteries as 646 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,000 well. If you've ever seen his live, he 647 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600 goes and and cleans headstones and talks to spirits while he 648 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,840 does it. That's kind of the big, you 649 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480 know, it's, that's his thing. You know, the older, the very 650 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,200 old graves that are, you know, those sections of the cemetery 651 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,040 that you know out. Here they're very scraped the 652 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,680 Moss off and yeah, yeah. But very respectful too. 653 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,840 You know, that's the biggest thing too. 654 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,080 Like I wanted to be respectful throughout all this. 655 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,040 I'm not, you know, it's like, because like I said, you know, 656 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,240 whatever, I don't want to think it's all fake. 657 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920 And then all of a sudden something comes home and my 2 658 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,120 year olds. Oh, go ahead. 659 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,360 It's, it's interesting because you know, you said, you know, 660 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680 you had the rosary in your pocket and this that and the 661 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,520 other and you're trying to protect yourself. 662 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,040 SO1 big thing that I that I'm about is I'm an atheist, right? 663 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,719 I, I have nothing to pray to, OK. 664 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,600 I'm about dominance, but being respectful at the same time. 665 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,400 You have to be very respectful, but you also have to be 666 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,320 dominant, you know, and that's how I go about protecting myself 667 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,280 in these situations. But respect is a big, big, big 668 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560 part of it. Yeah, Chinese is a lot, you 669 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,679 know, talks about intent a lot, you know, like I, you know, you 670 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,639 cannot, you know, break this barrier or whatever. 671 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,120 My intent is some. People use groceries. 672 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,239 That's it, that's it. What? 673 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,440 Do you think? What are your kids? 674 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,360 What do you tell your kids you're doing this this month 675 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,520 when you were filming this stuff? 676 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,639 Like when they say how was work do you tell them or is it? 677 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,400 Yeah, no, I. Are you going to show them the 678 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,440 segments? I don't know. 679 00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,520 You know what? That's a good question. 680 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,520 I have not decided yet. They've seen some of the 681 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,400 commercials and they're like oh mom, Oh my little my 7 year old, 682 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,120 she drew a picture and it was of me like hunting ghosts. 683 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,480 Oh, that's, that's that's. Adorable both your kids are 684 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,560 little You have you have. Yeah, 7 and a soon to be 3 year 685 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,320 old and Oh my God, yeah, yeah. But they, I had to be careful 686 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,520 because a few times they would hear me talking about it, you 687 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,360 know, over the phone or, you know, to my husband. 688 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,720 And then like mom, I'm afraid. Can you move, move this off the 689 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:29,880 table? Because in the middle of the 690 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,120 night if I see that, so I was like, no, so I've been better. 691 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,680 So you know what I think I just stand. 692 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,240 I don't know. But I guess I want the viewers. 693 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,160 Maybe I will have them watch. Right, right. 694 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,520 Exactly. Christy, first of all, thank you 695 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,000 so much for taking the time to be here with us. 696 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,920 What do you want just to close it? 697 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400 What do you hope viewers take away from the haunted tri-state? 698 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,120 You know when they watch these it's over, it's over. 699 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,240 It's every tell us when it is where they can find it and I'm 700 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,080 gonna we'll certainly post the link to your YouTube channel in 701 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,000 our link tree and our bio and on this when we when we drop it. 702 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,400 But where can they find it? When is it going to air and what 703 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,760 do you want viewers to walk away from? 704 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,360 Hopefully. Yeah, so you can watch it every 705 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,840 Wednesday at 9:30 through the month of October on News 12. 706 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,400 So throughout the tri-state, if you have news 12, turn it on, 707 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,280 you can watch it there. Then you can also watch it 708 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,800 streaming on News 12 New York and then, like you said, YouTube 709 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,840 as well. So 930 new episode every 710 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,840 Wednesday they'll be re airs too. 711 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,400 So if you don't, you know, if you miss it, don't worry. 712 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,960 I think viewers just need to be to be open to it. 713 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,120 You know, this is a, you know, this is just something to kind 714 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,920 of explore. You know, we hear all these 715 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,400 things in our community. So why not have a, you know, why 716 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,240 don't we look into it? Let's you know, let's go into 717 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,680 these places and there's a lot of history. 718 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,120 You learn a lot about the craft, which John, you know, you know 719 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,560 about and how the tools work. So it just kind of comes from a 720 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,120 place of kind of just informing you and then, you know, the 721 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,240 other side. We got the skeptics coming in 722 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,080 and then we just kind of let you decide what you think out of 723 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,840 that after watching it. And then you got the people who 724 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,920 are saying you're messing with the forces of nature, you're 725 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,760 doing the devil's work. We get a lot of those, which is 726 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,920 great. It's always great fun Christy, 727 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,280 look, thank you so much. I hope this is fun. 728 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,560 I hope you had a good time with the scene today yes, thank you 729 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,840 thank you enough. I'm glad we were able to get 730 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,760 this going with you and I'm looking forward to watching the 731 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120 entire series. I think it'll be great and 732 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,480 we'll. Check. 733 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,640 Who knows, maybe, maybe next year you'll be with us. 734 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:41,560 I'm one of these. I'm not going you. 735 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,800 You can now you can go, you can take him, you go with him. 736 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,200 I'll stay back here and I'll watch from my my office, which 737 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,640 is fine. Well, that's it for another 738 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,720 episode of Splintered Spirits. Be sure to like, share and 739 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,920 subscribe to our YouTube channel, Spotify, or wherever 740 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,600 you get your podcasts. Until next time, stay curious.