1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:14,280 You will pay with your soul one day, Welcome to Splintered 2 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Spirits, the Paranormal podcast hosted by me, Gary, and my 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,800 nephew John Santa from Santa Paranormal. 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,120 Our guest this week is Lori Bruno, an Italian American 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,680 hereditary high priestess and elder of the Sicilian Strega 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,720 lineage. She's a witch folks. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Born into a family with teachings dating back to at 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,400 least the 10th century. Founder of the non 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,400 denominational are Lord and Lady of the Trinocarian Rose Church 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,760 and former owner of the now closed Magica, her renowned 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,920 spiritual shop in Salem, MA. That's right, Laurie is not just 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,120 any witch. She's a Salem witch, and she has 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,040 spent decades performing psychic readings, healing rituals, and 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,120 even assisting law enforcement in missing persons cases, all 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,680 while preserving ancient stragarian traditions. 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,680 Known affectionately as Strega Nona, or the Witch of Salem, 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,440 she's as notable for her warm, grandmotherly demeanor. 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,520 I love you being her signature sign off as she is for her 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,560 powerful work curing sick animals, blessing homes during 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,600 downturns. Look, let's just dive right into 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,720 the conversation. Hey, everybody, we are here with 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:33,520 Lori Bruno, the John. This is a real Salem witch. 23 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,520 Awesome. Hello and thank you so much for 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,640 being here. Thank you for having me. 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,520 I, I like to start out asking everyone the same question to 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,800 start just to get a sort of baseline where everyone's belief 27 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,520 system is and what what we do. So so Lori, what do you think 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,520 spirits are and what happens when we die? 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,800 What spirits are is the essence of the soul and the light that 30 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,920 surrounds them. That is what spirits are and 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,360 what they ought to be in the other world is when they want to 32 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,840 come to let us see them. OK, but the spirit is that 33 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,200 essence of the soul that never dies. 34 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:25,440 It's a circle which never dies. When you say soul, is it from 35 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,400 like sort of your like a religious background or is it 36 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,560 something you know is there? Is it another or scientific 37 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,440 back, you know, like where do you come up with soul? 38 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Is it based in like a Catholicism soul how we think of 39 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,960 it? The soul is in everything, even 40 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,960 if a rock has a soul. Oh, I said something that's kind 41 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,680 of strange, didn't I? That's a that's a Native 42 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:53,960 American belief. The Native Americans believe 43 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,040 that it's. It's, you know, so a belief. 44 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Damn it, we had tech issues this entire episode. 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,680 Right now everyone's frozen tech. 46 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:07,080 John, are you still there? I'm still here. 47 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,280 But she just Lori's talking about one of her great ancestors 48 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,240 in the 1600s. Italy. 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,520 And he became a Dominican monk and he was chastised for his 50 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,840 belief. He said the earth went around 51 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,080 the sun and they were on multiplicity of universes. 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,360 They condemned him, OK, And they brought him before the 53 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Inquisitional court on February the 11th, 1600. 54 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,280 And what happened is that they condemned him to death. 55 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,080 It's interesting. A few years ago, on February 56 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,680 11th, the Vatican was hit by a Thunderbolt of lightning. 57 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,600 And that's the day they condemned my ancestor. 58 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Quite a few years before that. So February 17th, 1600, they 59 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200 took him out on the Campo de Fiore. 60 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,760 They put a iron mask in his mouth to not let him speak. 61 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,760 They were afraid of truth. There are two things you can 62 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,880 never hide. The sun and truth. 63 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Oh no, they burned my ancestor. But his thoughts are always here 64 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,640 in my heart and that part of me. And where's the soul? 65 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,800 It is within each and every one of us. 66 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,720 Our ancestors. Soul is there, it's part of the 67 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,720 DNA. The dead are near always, they 68 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,080 never die. Your skin is the skin that 69 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,200 belongs to many people that were before you. 70 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,200 So where is the soul? The Egyptians said the soul 71 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,120 dwells within the heart. That was the only organ that 72 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,640 they left when they embalmed the people. 73 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Yeah, they had to, but that's the that's the scales. 74 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,480 They would put the heart on the scale and you needed it for the 75 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,880 afterlife. Yes, yes, very, very, very well 76 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 put. The feather in her hand put it 77 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,040 on the scale and said if it doesn't balance, guess who gets 78 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,200 you? The devourer, which looks like 79 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:09,160 an alligator. You cannot fool things too long 80 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 out there. Let me tell you. 81 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,600 It does come and you will know despair, all right. 82 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:21,720 Many years ago, during 9/11, I wrote a poem on that morning and 83 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,880 it goes like this. If you'd like me to say it, go. 84 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,480 For it please. In the name of God, how odd. 85 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Walk, condone skull and bone. You forgot there's all right to 86 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,480 hurt your sister and your brother. 87 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,520 Oh, you forgot the Great Mother Garden of Eden. 88 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,360 That's what we're needing. Become a caring nation, not the 89 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,760 uncreation. The God of life, Allah, Buddha, 90 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,640 Christ and Great Mother want humanity to love one another. 91 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,760 Hate not for the religion or colour of the skin or anything 92 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,600 else. Look into the heart. 93 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,480 The soul is within. Create, not destroy. 94 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,600 Make the world filled with joy. This is not odd, it is a place 95 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,600 of Goddess in God, a balance of creation. 96 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:16,200 Become that caring nation, create the love from above and 97 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,880 you will move forth with life forever. 98 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,600 The soul does exist in every one of us, in the stone and 99 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,760 everything there is the soul. Look and you will see. 100 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,040 And from negativity it will be free. 101 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Washington, you need that now more than ever. 102 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,920 That is wow, you have that memorized too. 103 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,560 That is great that. Is wonderful. 104 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,560 I have a good memory. Yes, you do. 105 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,560 I've lived 8585 summers I've lived. 106 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:57,520 There is no way you lived 85 summers. 8485 Summers. 107 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:04,720 No, I was born April 27th, 1940, the same day as Ulysses S Grant 108 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,520 lived. That's my mother's birthday. 109 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,360 By the way. Yeah, George Washington was the 110 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,320 father of the country. You listen to this Grant. 111 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Save the Union. Understand me? 112 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:24,120 All these people wanted humanity to live and not die. 113 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,280 So, you know, it's Laura. It's funny you said February 114 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,200 11th. Another weird coincidence is 115 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,480 this podcast dropped on February 11th. 116 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,320 Isn't that funny? Giordano Bruno is coming to give 117 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,360 you truth. Yes, they, they, they burned him 118 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,160 alive. But the ashes that flew all over 119 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,520 Rome that day ended up in the drinking water, the bread that 120 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:57,200 the Baker was making. All pieces of salt were there, 121 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,880 and as long as men and women seek the truth, all of those who 122 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,840 perish in flames are never forgotten. 123 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,000 They live and that's right, so. So, Laura, So. 124 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,840 Laura, you, you've been in Salem for how long now? 125 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,440 You've been all your life. You lived in Salem? 126 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,880 No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 127 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,920 I've moved to Salem at night and that's 2009, OK? 128 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Somebody wanted me to go work with them. 129 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,360 He had held a lot of negativity in him, unfortunately. 130 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,559 I tried to teach him, but he couldn't grasp the light. 131 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,720 He grasped money, made plenty of money, but what is it when you 132 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,400 haven't got respect of people? That he can't take it. 133 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:51,120 With you, you take all the money you have, forget about. 134 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,960 No, I was born in Brooklyn, NY. Another New Yorker. 135 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,440 New Yorker. Love it. 136 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Love it. Who is it? 137 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,640 So, Laurie, I was. Born on Ocean Parkway in New 138 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,720 York and Brooklyn, it's. Amazing. 139 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,120 How many nights? Ago and then I was, I did my 140 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,360 work in the I left when I left young. 141 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,840 I was, I was working in a big company then and I always wanted 142 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,280 to see what my ancestor said, a multiplicity of universes. 143 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,120 So I said, well, and at that time it was 1960 and I said I'd 144 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,520 like to work at NASA, but what can I do? 145 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,960 I said, I'm not an engineer, but I like to draw, haha. 146 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Technical illustration. So I went to school, I learned 147 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:45,560 and I got a clearance and I went down there and Italian girls 148 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:47,600 leaving at the age of 20 in 1960. 149 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,160 That's unheard of. But my father said, I trust you 150 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,840 on the other side of the moon, and I went. 151 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,440 So he taught me all the things of our family, the manga, the 152 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,760 church, the teachings of everything. 153 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,200 My father's name was Salvatore Michael. 154 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,240 He was supposed to become a Catholic priest but didn't do 155 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,680 it. Well, let me, let me. 156 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:10,200 I wanted to ask you that. So is it called stragaria? 157 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Is that what? Stragaria, OK, Stragar is the 158 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,920 folk witch, or what you would call witch, OK. 159 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,760 But the MAGA which my family, they go a little higher up and 160 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,400 that's not, they're not better than anybody else, believe me. 161 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,160 It's just that we go towards the magical learnings of all the 162 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,720 religions of mankind so we can learn to be kind and not be 163 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,640 bigots. So this is what happens. 164 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,400 I'm I'm sorry to cut you off, Lori. 165 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:45,160 This the the the stragaga. That's also that's more like 166 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,400 like the. Ragadia. 167 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,760 The spaghadia that's. That's the first one have. 168 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Something a a a little bit to do with gypsy, as in like that's 169 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,680 something like like with the root words. 170 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,520 No, no, no, no, no. OK, Gypsies, they came from, 171 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,000 they said Egypt Gypsy. That's it. 172 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,680 No, no, that that I know that I know, but it's very similar to 173 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,560 they have a a form of wish. If I if I'm correct, what would 174 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,160 very similar tongue and very similar work wishes? 175 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,200 Trust me. No, they, No they. 176 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:26,000 No, they don't. Anyway, what happened is that, 177 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,800 as I was telling you, I went to work at NASA. 178 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:35,880 I worked in Huntsville, AL and Cape Kennedy also, and I got to 179 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,280 know Doctor Renner von Braun who was Hitler's rocket scientist. 180 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,560 Wow. That's in the moon. 181 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Oh, yes, very strange, but I saw, well, I, my ancestor, the 182 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,520 Russians named the crater on the moon Giordano Bruno. 183 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:58,760 He's well known in Europe, but he went ahead and he believed so 184 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:04,440 much that it goes into every one of us in my family that we know 185 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,760 him. But was it hard, Laurie, to be 186 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,240 soul to be that, you know, to, to be practicing what you 187 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,560 practice in as an Italian in New York, where it's so heavily 188 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:20,480 Catholic? Oh wait a minute my dear, we 189 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,600 have nothing against Jesus Christ. 190 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,840 No, I know, but did the but did the Catholics have an issue 191 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,640 against you? No, it came to my mother a lot 192 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,000 of times. Take away my headaches, take 193 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,080 away. And we need advice as you saved 194 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,960 many families, as I have done. The, the, the lot of big little 195 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,640 secrets are right here and they will stay here. 196 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,320 And some of them were very unsavory people, as you would 197 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,360 say. But I think I would trust a lot 198 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,840 of them more than I would some of these illegal. 199 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,200 And what do you pull again in the in the political office? 200 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,520 At least you knew who they were. They didn't. 201 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,640 They weren't wolves in sheep's clothing. 202 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,440 Well, even, well, even even some of the mafia had a lot of 203 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,520 actually would some would consider ritualistic rights with 204 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,720 the cards and yeah, yeah. Absolutely. 205 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Yeah, absolutely. I'm very well acquainted with 206 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,960 all that, yeah. Yeah, some of us have saved 207 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,000 lives of people. Yeah. 208 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Is that amazing? There are a lot of little 209 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,480 secrets. A lot, y'all, Yeah. 210 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Laurie, you've been there. Yeah. 211 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,760 They stay right here. Yeah. 212 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Yeah, yeah. Laurie do. 213 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,360 You think? Do you think it's your certain 214 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,480 bloodlines, like your own, are more naturally attuned to 215 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,200 communicating with spirits? Yes, I was serious. 216 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,720 However, everyone of you out there have psychic ability. 217 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,200 Everyone of you. If you would take away the fear. 218 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,240 The fear stops you. The fear will always stop 219 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,480 people. OK, see, I don't know if I could 220 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,480 cross the street. That's your first thing. 221 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Yes, I can. Yes, I will. 222 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:09,240 The will of everything to the spirit world. 223 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,400 All right? Yes. 224 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,000 You see, I've had to learn every religion. 225 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,200 I should buy you so well, I don't know. 226 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,560 I don't know a card, first commandment, Hebrew. 227 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,160 I had to learn everything about Jesus Christ because if I didn't 228 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,800 know all of these things, then Buddha if I didn't. 229 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,040 And every day I teach to learn and I learned to teach. 230 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,520 I don't know it all. I know it is in the heart and 231 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,520 that's what it is. The religion of the magical 232 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,400 energy is in the heart. If you have no heart, forget 233 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,320 about it. It's not where a point he has, I 234 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,720 don't know one. It's not where it is a point and 235 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,040 it's, it's, it's what you'll get to the point when you teach and 236 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,640 you care. You know, I see people sit down 237 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,040 for time in the street. They, they look hungry. 238 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,360 I go put some money in the hand. A friend of mine said, why'd you 239 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,400 do that? Because I can and I will. 240 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,680 That's why I do it. So what? 241 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,720 What is on your day-to-day in your shop? 242 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:25,120 It's a magic magica magica. Magica, yes, Magica. 243 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Because my landlord, who's a very gracious man, and he's a, 244 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,040 he's a lovely human being, wanted to make it into a condo. 245 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,440 So Mr. Gigolta is a wonderful human being. 246 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,560 I'm so happy that he can make it into the condo. 247 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Bless him, Goddess, bless him. So a restaurant there in town 248 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,840 called Rockefellers ROCKAFELLAS many years ago. 249 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,400 They need a little help. And I told them on February 250 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,600 18th, 20 years ago, they would sign papers and own the 251 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,920 building. It seemed the man was selling 252 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,040 the building where the rest big restaurant big. 253 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,840 It used to be. It's haunted too. 254 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,840 It had was an old church. It was a church, one of the 255 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,440 first churches in Salem. But they made now it went into a 256 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,080 jewelry store. It was a bank. 257 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,400 It was everything. So they finally came to me and 258 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,680 they said David Mckillop, who owns the restaurant. 259 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,480 But we will we be able to get this? 260 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,360 I absolutely will. February 18th next year you'll 261 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,760 sign the papers. That was in October of the 262 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,760 previous year and February 18th he signed the papers. 263 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,960 So when he heard that my shop had to close, he said Laurie, he 264 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,920 and his brother-in-law Kevin said, come here and read out of 265 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,040 our restaurant. And they have been more than 266 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,640 gracious to me and my son. So you go there and you do your 267 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,640 readings. And I do my readings right out 268 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,280 of Rockefeller's restaurant, which is on the corner of 269 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Washington and Essex St. in Salem. 270 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,400 Yes, I gave them a plug. No, that's fine, fine by me. 271 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:09,480 So and is it is this sort of your I mean is it is the word 272 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,640 witchcraft still the used today or how do story? 273 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,359 About the word. Yeah, please. 274 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,599 The word which? Oh, there you go. 275 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:24,440 All right, you'll get me. I'll go back. 276 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,040 The word which I was on a television show many years ago. 277 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,560 I was 18 at the time. And they said so. 278 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,200 Yeah. There was a a man, a Muslim 279 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,160 claret. There was a Roman Catholic 280 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,720 priest, a born again Christian, a Protestant, an agnostic. 281 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,640 There was every religion there and a rabbi. 282 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,840 So what is a witch? They said, and they looked at 283 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,800 me. I said the witch is this W 284 00:17:54,800 --> 00:18:03,040 wisdom, I integrity, T truth, C courage, H honor. 285 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,920 Which one of you follow that creed? 286 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:15,400 I was 18 summers then and the announcer said had a mouth of 287 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,360 babes. And how do you know I'm a babe? 288 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:23,120 I might be older than you understand. 289 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:25,920 We do witch reincarnate. What is a witch? 290 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,920 If you have and start running around with a big wand or or 291 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:37,480 worry the pointy had a big Cape. Some of us don't dress like that 292 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,960 at all. It's witch in here that makes 293 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,640 the magical practitioner, not the clothing you wear. 294 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,080 I've seen some of them with their boobies hanging out. 295 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,040 What is that? No, they're boobs. 296 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,560 That's all they are is boobs. You don't let everything hang 297 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,320 out. Yes, I do wear my jewelry. 298 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,880 I wear the pentacle with the one point up. 299 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,920 Oh, but that's what you saw. I said. 300 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:10,440 Now I'm going to surprise you. You know who saw this is saw of 301 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Solomon, saw Stella Salomonis. David has the six pointers, saw 302 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,720 his son the five. Well, why is that? 303 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Because when he was building the Temple of Jerusalem, what 304 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,840 happened there? Was this his master Mason, Cyram 305 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,040 Abbeth. That's what the Mason say His 306 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,880 name was, was murdered because he wouldn't give them the 307 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,720 secret. The murderers and Solomon sat 308 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,880 there. I cannot build this temple. 309 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:46,240 All of a sudden the Angel came. McHale, Archangel. 310 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,560 The name Michael. It means that who is he? 311 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,680 That is she. Whoever it is has the energy of 312 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,080 the Father. His name means he or she. 313 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,400 That is like the Father. So. 314 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:09,560 From the top of his crown that he wore, he pulled out A5 315 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,720 pointed star. The crown that Michael wears has 316 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:18,440 five points and that star is the symbol of the crown, which they 317 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,000 say God the Father, God the mother Father put on his head. 318 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,880 And he gave the ring, this ring or the symbol of the star to 319 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:34,520 Solomon and he commanded both the demonic and the the good 320 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,240 spirits to build the temple of Jerusalem. 321 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,360 Jerusalem legend. Of Solomon Spring. 322 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:48,000 Yes, yes. Now the word Jerusalem, if you 323 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,320 look at it very carefully in the center, you'll see it. 324 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Jerusalem. Very strange. 325 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,680 This is our outpost there, isn't it? 326 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,600 So yeah, sure. What? 327 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,000 We have to understand. Are are healing? 328 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:16,760 Are healing rituals a big part of your practice as well as 329 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,680 readings? Yes, we pray for. 330 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,960 They are. Yes, we do. 331 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,240 We do healings. We pray for people when they're 332 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,000 I'll OK. That that that's what he, that's 333 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,960 what he. That's what a healing ritual is. 334 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,600 Is it a spell or is it just prayer? 335 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Prayer is a spell. A the will does it. 336 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,640 The will of seen you will if it's in the power of throne. 337 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:51,200 From that Miss Cosmos, the Lord of the universe, the Lady. 338 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,160 Come and help me heal. I hold my left hand up and I put 339 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,960 the right one out. Please help them. 340 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,320 It's not me that heals. It's a greater force than I 341 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,680 could ever be. I got a telephone, though. 342 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,520 I go. Please help this person. 343 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:12,520 All right. And if it's the will of God, oh 344 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,120 Goddess, Lord of the Universe, Lady of the universe, it will 345 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:21,760 happen. So what do you so Lori, is it 346 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,920 then you're you're saying God goddess, is it in your in your 347 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,400 practice? And is it the Trinakian? 348 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Tinakian Rose. Tinakian Rose Is it? 349 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:39,680 Is there a Is there a deity? Is there a main deity in your 350 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,960 faith? It is light. 351 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,000 Light. We call on the light, on the 352 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,320 light of all lights that created the universe, that created the 353 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,920 vast cosmos. There is no name for Our Lady 354 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,560 and Lord. There is no name, only the power 355 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,840 of love. When you put that power 356 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,080 together, you can move a mountain, my dear. 357 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,920 That's why I cannot take what I see today. 358 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,680 Hate make America great, yes, but get away from the hate. 359 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Yes there are those people that have done evil they have to be 360 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,560 taken down, but they have to understand with mercy. 361 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,320 Mercy is the key. Too many people live with the 362 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,000 ego evil going onward. Oh, stop it. 363 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:43,080 The word hate. Heal all the evil HATE, heal all 364 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:51,280 the that's to be that way. We have to learn the politicians 365 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,560 who stand there and pander to you and promise you and give you 366 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,400 nothing and fill their pockets with gold. 367 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Send that 10 million to to this OK. 368 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,920 And then they only take a million and send the kickback. 369 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:08,200 How come so many people out there in Washington live in 370 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:13,080 mansions? I want to know on their 371 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,080 salaries, how do they do that? They must be getting a kickback 372 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,560 from somebody. Oh, the mafia is terrible, we 373 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,240 know that. But then there's the legalized 374 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,360 mafia. You will pay with your soul one 375 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,680 day, my dears. Oh, you can laugh now. 376 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Send our men to war and our women to war, but you will pay 377 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,080 the cost. Lori Art. 378 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,200 Art Laurie are are curses are curses real? 379 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,000 Is that something you? Would Bella, when you do, when 380 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,680 you hurt somebody and look in the mirror, guess what? 381 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,720 You just gave yourself the biggest Milwaukee in the world 382 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,720 that you hurt somebody. You do it to yourself. 383 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,040 This Graziada, you did it. Excuse me, That's Italian. 384 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,920 That means ungracious 1. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 385 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,440 Yeah, yeah. So so but do people practice 386 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080 that? I mean do people do curses still 387 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,880 in your and you come across. This let them do all the curses 388 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,880 they want. God knows how many I have on me, 389 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,360 but that's OK. I've seen them all get it and 390 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:22,640 I've gone to their funerals and I never have to light a candle 391 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,160 against them. They've already lit theirs and 392 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,280 they burned their own butts. I said that up. 393 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,080 That's OK. That's OK, Lori, do you, are 394 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:39,400 you, do you follow sort of modern day witchcraft or social 395 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,440 media in any way or follow what people are doing and how they're 396 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,480 modifying these practices or no their. 397 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,760 Own thing, I don't care what they do. 398 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,240 They do what they want. But I know the most sacred is to 399 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,520 care. And you stand there in the night 400 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,520 light of the moon. Mother, grant me this moon that 401 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:09,200 I can turn this world and heal, because in your light I can 402 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,840 clear the blight and make a most beautiful path filled with your 403 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,880 holy life. Oh, Mother, hear this prayer, 404 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,440 this knife, hear this spell. Take away evil and put it in its 405 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320 own private hell. Did I say mischief? 406 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,600 The gods like mischief. Trust me. 407 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,640 Imagine you know even the even the prayers, what the prayers 408 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,240 have been. It's over and over ready to 409 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,920 request. But if you sit there and you 410 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:45,360 say, dear Mother, Mary, dear son, Jesus, I ask this in your 411 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,120 name. I seek no fame. 412 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,400 I want to do the things that are true, that bring a blessing not 413 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,480 just to me, but I honor you. Now see that very simple. 414 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,720 I just made that up. So, Laura, let me ask you a 415 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:10,560 question in in all the years of of your practice and you know, 416 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,080 just, you know, everything that you've gone through, everything 417 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,920 you've experienced, have you ever experienced anything that 418 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,960 you would consider your opposite or something that that has to do 419 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,080 with, you know, witchcraft in that title that you. 420 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520 Mean demonic. Not demonic. 421 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,040 I'm well, I mean, it could be a demonic force working through 422 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,720 another human that considers themselves a witch or a 423 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,600 practicer or anything like that. But like someone that's just was 424 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,400 honest and was like, hey, listen, I am darkness. 425 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,800 You know I am, you know, I am hate. 426 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,720 I am all these things that are your opposite. 427 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,920 Have you ever come across anything like that? 428 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,040 Oh yes, I did. Oh, May, may we hear a story. 429 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,160 I watch for somebody once, they call me the C word. 430 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320 You and I. That's. 431 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Not how I would describe you. And I took him to court. 432 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,800 So you. Use you use legal means as. 433 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,680 Opposed to as opposed to. Spiritual. 434 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,240 Class yes, and he had that habit of calling all women the C word. 435 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,800 Wow. He he called himself also a 436 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600 warlock, which means an oath breaker. 437 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Yes. Warlock means oath breaker. 438 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,880 Yes, Warlock oath, Breaker oath. Thank you. 439 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,080 Interesting. No oath, no spell. 440 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Yeah, Yeah. Oh. 441 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:40,960 Oh oh. No. 442 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,720 Yes, I have met something. My father was an exorcist. 443 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200 OK. My father was an exorcist. 444 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,560 I just asked for you. My father was an exorcist and he 445 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,720 was supposed to be his uncle also was an Abbot in the church. 446 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,920 You see and and say lately this Tregoni or Margo hidden sight of 447 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,160 the church and you want to know why? 448 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,320 What better place than to hide if somebody's going to try try 449 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,480 to hurt you? And they would warn the family. 450 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,240 Uh oh, watch out. How would they warn the family? 451 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,800 Well, they would go to the communion and they would turn 452 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,640 the communion this way up and down. 453 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,160 That's not desecrating it, that's just saying hide 454 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,040 everything. They're coming, all right. 455 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,720 And that's how they protected themselves. 456 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,200 Because even though we practice the light and not the darkness, 457 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:45,400 we were a rival to the political religio people understand. 458 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,560 I feel like the you're you're sort of disdain for politics 459 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,120 really stems from your ancestry in terms of like the persecution 460 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120 you received. I don't blame her. 461 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,000 No. I. 462 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,920 Don't blame her at all, but it's like, you know. 463 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,920 In the name of God, How odd. Walk, stone, skull and bone. 464 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360 The beginning of that poem tells you something there. 465 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Yes, they hide behind the cross. They hide behind a flag and they 466 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,160 do the most heinous crimes. My husband died because two 467 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,360 years ago I lost the best part of my life. 468 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,720 My husband I'm sorry and he was the most beautiful Luciano She 469 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:33,280 was that be Sportsa another the name I give you now SFORZA and 470 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,880 I'll tell you the story that goes with that talk about 471 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,000 reincarnation. It's right there now went ahead 472 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,960 and he went and fight in Vietnam. 473 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,560 He was the only son of the family, but he went, he didn't 474 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,200 run over the he loved America and I believe he still loves 475 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,080 America because sometimes they get little messages here and 476 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,960 there. So he wouldn't fight for our 477 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,480 country. And Dow Chemical in Monsanto had 478 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,600 a lobbyist who use these chemicals. 479 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400 It'll destroy the jungles. The jungles are still there. 480 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:12,720 However, 300,000 servicemen and women died because of Agent 481 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,960 Orange. When they came home. 482 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,200 There's a war with 58,000, but they don't talk about the 483 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,960 300,000 of our men and women that died and the 400,000 484 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Vietnamese that died. Oh, they don't talk about this. 485 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,680 I talk about it. And it still goes on and it 486 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400 still goes on chemicals still used and. 487 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,000 The. Chemicals still used cause 488 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,800 cancer and illness. With our military, it is a very 489 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,880 common thing. There's somebody in Washington 490 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,160 right now that's trying to stop it. 491 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,400 It's going to happen. It's going to happen. 492 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:58,280 Yeah, hopefully. He passed away after 26 years of 493 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:04,040 being ravaged by this disease. Luciano Giuseppe Swarza, one of 494 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,120 the most beautiful human being. He wasn't the father of my 495 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,720 children. He's my third husband. 496 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,400 First, when I tried to put through college, the second one 497 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,560 died. My son's father was a beautiful 498 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,240 human being and lived in the North End of Boston. 499 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,760 And Jodi Espanolo, he was the best, too. 500 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:35,000 Now hold on a second, Laura. Hold on a second, Laurie, you 501 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,200 just, you broke up just a little right there. 502 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,760 Start. Can you start that story over? 503 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,360 You broke up just a little bit starting that story. 504 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:52,040 OK, Schiano Schwarzer, my husband, he went ahead and 505 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,840 helped me raise my two children, OK, by two other men. 506 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,200 He's a beautiful human being. His family says forces ruled 507 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Milan, that's he descended from them. 508 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,160 There was 1 Schwartzer that was in the time of Giordano Bruno, 509 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,640 who's every great Italian family had to have a priest or somebody 510 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,080 in the Vatican. He was there in the Vatican, he 511 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,200 said. I said, how could you kill 512 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,240 Giordano Bruno? How could you? 513 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880 You what was death upon this man? 514 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,880 His name was Forza. Giordano Bruno's descended, 515 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:37,840 married Forza. You talked about the soul. 516 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:45,360 You talked about proof. I saw it in my lifetime, OK? 517 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,600 He was the most beautiful human being any woman could have in 518 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:55,560 her life. He picked up the pieces and he 519 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,920 made a family. I miss him Dave desperately. 520 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:06,880 He passed away on September the 24th, 2022, the date of 81st 521 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719 birthday. He likes all the way you. 522 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,880 Like told. Her I was 18 months older than 523 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,159 him. That's funny. 524 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,280 Well, I'm sorry for your loss. It does sound like an incredible 525 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,719 person for sure. Yeah, he does. 526 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,920 He's. With me, he's here always. 527 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,199 Lori, just to to slightly switch gears, I read that you used to 528 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,320 help the police with missing persons. 529 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,400 Is that true? Yes, and I can tell you the 530 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:41,120 story of one because it did go out in the I did a lot, many and 531 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,560 free of charge. I do not take blood money. 532 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,440 No. So this girl was missing in 533 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,800 Clinton, MA. Her name was Nikki Evangelist. 534 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,080 In July of 1991, she went missing. 535 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,680 In December that year, a friend of their family came to see me. 536 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,680 Her name was Cheryl. Cindy. 537 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,640 OK. And Cindy sat there. 538 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,880 I said, Cindy, I'll give you lottery numbers. 539 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,080 That's what you like to do. How do you know that? 540 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,160 Because I know that's all you want to do. 541 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,560 You got a good home. You got a good pimp. 542 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,960 But Linda and Susan need me say that again. 543 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,360 I said Linda and Susan tell them they're free of charge. 544 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,880 He says no. She says, I was going to ask you 545 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,600 about that. I said, tell them to bring me 546 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:44,560 something of the sister, you know, it was a girl, you know, 547 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,400 So they came to see me in December. 548 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:54,880 That yes, I sat there with them. I lived in Medford, MA at that 549 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,520 time. I sat sat with them and I said 550 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:05,800 your sister had cut off jeans and she went to get she didn't 551 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,120 even dry her hair that day. She went to get the car sees 552 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,840 could go to the beach. Yeah, this what happened? 553 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,240 The shirt was yellow and the jeans were it was like blue, 554 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,720 blue jeans but cut off. She went to a place that had a 555 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:27,760 big bird on the front of it. My Eagle Falcon Falcon bar was 556 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:33,080 in Clinton, MA and then she met a man there who said he would 557 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,280 give her the car to use so you kids could all go to the beach. 558 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,760 He went and took it to his house and had a bowfront down the 559 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120 cellar. There's a there was also a a 560 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,680 tree cut down in the front yard. Oh my God. 561 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,600 He stifled her. Oh my God. 562 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,320 Plastic bags, duct tape, $5.00 bill is written on the wall 563 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,560 where she is. It's a culvert. 564 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:08,240 Go find your sister. And as they left, I said by his 565 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:12,200 own mouth, Brian Peas will be caught. 566 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,640 His name was in peace. It was Pierce. 567 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,560 They left the house that day, went downstairs, out the door. 568 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,160 I said, by his own mouth he will be condemned. 569 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,680 Well, he was in a place, I think he might have been a bar 570 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,240 somewhere. And he was shooting his mouth 571 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:39,560 off and how he got away with it. But he was talking to a police 572 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,200 informant. Your steed said justice is done. 573 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,360 Now, what happened is that they went to the place where there 574 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,920 was $5.00 bill written on the wall on the brick, a culvert 575 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,600 with water, and they found Nikki there and they put her in 576 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,240 hollowed round. No, no money. 577 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,280 I paid nothing. That's what I told you. 578 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:10,600 But blood money, never. And they buried her, the family 579 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,800 Sam Evangelist. They live in Texas now. 580 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,800 Ian, Bonnie, his wife. They're still my friends close 581 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,840 to me. They're my family. 582 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,480 I call them the Evangelist family. 583 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,720 And I love them now. As she was married, they found 584 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,920 this man. He's still in jail and he's not 585 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,960 coming out. She was born in January. 586 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:41,560 Beautiful girl, I'm telling you, that girl is still in my heart 587 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,720 and will never part because how she died was 19 years old. 588 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,560 You stifled her life out all your life. 589 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,400 You will rot where you are. Oh yes, the stranger do have 590 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,400 that habit. When I was born, I was, they 591 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,800 brought me to where we lived in in New York because we didn't 592 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,400 have a mountain there. So we went on top of the 593 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,840 tenement and all the family was there, and they blessed me. 594 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:21,280 Your name is Virginia Victoria Gloria Eustesia. 595 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,400 Luciana. Eustesia means justice. 596 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,480 The mother and justice dwell in you. 597 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,240 All right? And that's what my Grammy 598 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:39,640 insists. Lori what, what how did these 599 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,400 were they visions when this was going on? 600 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,680 How did you get to a place to figure out of this story has 601 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,160 happened? Yellow plastic earrings and I 602 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:54,000 put them in my ear and I heard her help me, help me, help me. 603 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:05,240 A soul called, and I said, justice for you, little one. 604 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,640 Justice for you. I don't care if he ever knows. 605 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,080 Have he ever hears this podcast? Yes, Mr. Pierce, Never the light 606 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,440 of day. You shall see. 607 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,520 You took the beautiful life for Nikki. 608 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,200 Stay where you are and think what you've done. 609 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,040 As rising moon and setting sun. So will it be. 610 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,000 And I am justified. I guess I taught you a little 611 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:43,640 spell. Do you, do you believe in, I 612 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,960 mean is vengeance like? Oh, I. 613 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,360 Believe Justice. Justice. 614 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:56,120 Justicia no vengeance. Oh no, I don't do a vengeance, 615 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,640 honey. It's like when you do something 616 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,960 wrong, you sing a sorrow song. Right. 617 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,920 When you hurt someone, you got to look in the mirror. 618 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,320 You can't fool the man in the mirror or the lady in the 619 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,120 mirror. Right. 620 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,560 That's why have you ever done do you do you still do that for 621 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,320 police missing persons was. That when they come, when they 622 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,520 come to me, I don't volunteer. Like they had Karen Reed's trial 623 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:30,280 here in Boston. She was accused of running over 624 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:36,360 her boyfriend. No, I said a prayer for her. 625 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:45,680 That's all justice must be done and she was innocent and she's 626 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,920 free. But it wasn't me that just did 627 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,040 it. A lot of people would say 628 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,360 prayers for her. People say something was wrong 629 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,600 here. And now the investigation will 630 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,400 start to find out who took the life of Sean O'Keefe and this 631 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,800 man or whoever man they were the life thiefs and they will pay. 632 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,760 Not how's that old? How's that old saying go? 633 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,760 The only difference between justice and vengeance is what 634 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,160 lies in your heart or how where it goes. 635 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,160 That's right, do good and forget in in. 636 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,720 It's how you would say fi born escorta fi mala penza. 637 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,920 Which means do good and forget. Do remember. 638 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,280 Not now. You got the best quotes, Lori, 639 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,280 for sure. They are, they are quite 640 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,880 wonderful. So, you know, going back a 641 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,600 little bit to what John was asking, you do you, are there 642 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,600 dark spirits? Do you come across those? 643 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,400 And then how do you protect yourself from those? 644 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,760 I do protect myself from those. Let me tell you something. 645 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,920 I mean, because you are human, right? 646 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,280 We're all subject to temptation and things like that, So how do 647 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:09,960 you protect yourself? I say my prayers very, very 648 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,440 strong. I will not allow you entrance 649 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,680 into my mind, my soul, my heart, my body, unclean entity be gone. 650 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,880 You have no place with me. I walk the path most bright and 651 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,720 I will not deal with you. Whether it's in the day or the 652 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,040 night. Be gone. 653 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,960 And you can say in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, 654 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,120 and in the name of anything that you believe. 655 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,040 You understand me. That is a powerful force of 656 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,600 light, which is like a sword, and you can combat anything. 657 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,440 As long as you believe that it is of the light, you can combat 658 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,240 anything. My father was an exorcist. 659 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,520 Yes. Taught by the Roman Catholic 660 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,120 Abbott. That was his uncle. 661 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,800 Yes. And I know Gloria Romanum. 662 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,840 I have the books of the exorcism. 663 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,520 Yes. My father taught me. 664 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,520 Why? Because he knew the world was 665 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,800 not so nice. Yes. 666 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,520 Oh my God. But your, your wish. 667 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,720 You know, Jesus Christ was a very good practitioner of the 668 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:24,040 magical world, and what he practiced was love, Lord love. 669 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,360 Geez, I'm telling you. So that could move him out and 670 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,480 can't it? Lori, do you? 671 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,280 Do you have you ever had to free someone from an attachment of 672 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,280 like a dark attachment of any kind? 673 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,480 I went, I used to go in the houses and bless them. 674 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,720 I don't need more because I will show you one day if you want to 675 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,480 see. I went to a house that was owned 676 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,400 by an attorney here and she lived in Middleton, MA. 677 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,400 Well, the first time I ever went in that house, I went upstairs 678 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,960 to her bathroom. I was picked up and thrown in a 679 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,840 chair. I said whoa, hey, I'll be back 680 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,720 right now. I'm going through a lot, but I 681 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:09,480 wow this. I said what is upstairs? 682 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,680 Oh, you felt it? I said yes I did, didn't I? 683 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,880 You knew it, but you want to see if I would feel it so you 684 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,360 understand me. You want to play games when they 685 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,640 don't. Later, years later, I went back 686 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,640 there. She was selling the house. 687 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,720 I said OK, Lynn, I'll come there. 688 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,760 I went with two friends, Rose and Kathy. 689 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,840 He. Had backup. 690 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,840 Rose is a guy, there's a ghost hunter. 691 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,040 He was Kathy was a born again Christian and so go with me. 692 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,920 Hey, come on, let's go. So we went up into the top of 693 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,440 the house, and out of the closet came this dark figure. 694 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,120 Oh, yes, it was dark all right. I think I lost one of you. 695 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,360 Don't worry guys, I dropped off screen but the show must go on. 696 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,720 Remember I told you tech issues? It's it's, it's still recording. 697 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:11,760 You keep telling the story. I'm I'm glued. 698 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,200 You got me. You got me hooked. 699 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,760 Go ahead. That's great. 700 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,240 So anyway, what happened is that we went into the the room. 701 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:26,840 There, all of a sudden, out of the corner of that closet, came 702 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,000 a man with a top. Hat on the top hat, man. 703 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:38,920 The top hat had a waistcoat and I said I know who you are. 704 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:45,200 I'm back, if you even care. And in doing that, it's moved 705 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,680 away the the smell, it was terrible. 706 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,240 And I have we took pictures with one of these type of cameras 707 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,760 like this here, like you're portable. 708 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,640 You can't get a double exposure on them, can you? 709 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,360 My feet. Were it's rare, it's super rare. 710 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,720 The chances are so low to get a double exposure like that. 711 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,920 My feet were on the floor, but the other body was up. 712 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,440 Do you? Want to see the pictures of the 713 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,240 soul? Yes. 714 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:26,560 I was saying the prayers that I knew very carefully and all of a 715 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,760 sudden I felt the scratches on my back. 716 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,800 I said get. I used the prayers of the 717 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,880 Catholic Church, career, Romanum, the Roman ritual. 718 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,120 I have the books here. My father they were, and I went 719 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:49,120 ahead and this thing left. It was like that. 720 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,560 So what do you think? What do you think the top of 721 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,200 that? I'm going to tell you the 722 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,360 finale. I went home. 723 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,080 I oh. Whoa, it's not over yet, OK? 724 00:47:57,720 --> 00:47:59,920 Oh, my husband scratches on my back. 725 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,880 He says who called you? You must never do this again. 726 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,320 Promise me. I don't want to lose you. 727 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,840 OK, Lou, I never did. I didn't do anymore. 728 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:15,360 I did a lot for before that. Now what did does this do? 729 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,440 Oh right now? PS Postscript 3 weeks later, 730 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,840 that house burned down after the new owners owned it. 731 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,200 Wow. All right. 732 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,880 And they built a new house on that property on Lake Street in 733 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,920 Middleton, now Massachusetts. Now, what do you call again? 734 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,080 What? What is it that we do? 735 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,720 I use the forces of light. I don't care what religion it 736 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,160 is. If it's good, it's good. 737 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:50,680 If it's evil, it's evil. OK, now why would I go ahead and 738 00:48:51,080 --> 00:49:01,240 and give a friend and and the Latin, when it is Hebrew, you 739 00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:04,200 understand me. I go to what the people believe 740 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,320 in because this is what I was taught. 741 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,920 We that's why the manga has to learn all the religions you 742 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,680 understand, not just so I know Shema Israel, I don't know I'll 743 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,920 handle that. They they they hear the first 744 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,720 commandment. They're not you know all about 745 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:23,800 that and then and then Jesus name. 746 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,920 So if I was working with something the MAGA and MAGA have 747 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,240 to learn all the religions of mankind so that they know how to 748 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,000 help someone. They have to learn to be 749 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,840 positive. If I would do a. 750 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,680 So Lori, can I, can I just interrupt you real quick? 751 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,920 Sorry, is it? And John, I think this speaks to 752 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,800 like, if this speaks to a lot what you're saying, it sounds 753 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,840 like it's less about the words and more about the intent behind 754 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,080 them. Intent is everything I always 755 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,240 say. I always is. 756 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,600 That right. Is that safe? 757 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,320 Is that fair to? Say for you everything. 758 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,480 Intention. Yep. 759 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,600 Intention is everything. The light is the light, the dark 760 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,440 is the dark. There's no Gray area if you're 761 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,960 going to do the right or the wrong, don't say what if I do 762 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,640 this, I think baloney. Don't try to whitewash it. 763 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,480 Bad energy, it doesn't work. It still comes out great. 764 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,880 It has holes in it. You must understand the care 765 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,360 about humanity. I think they should learn that 766 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,160 in Washington humanity when we made the Church of our Our Lord 767 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,160 Lady the Trinochrine rose the word trinoclia is Greek. 768 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:48,360 TRINAKRIA is spelt in in Greek, but TRINACRIA it means 3 capes. 769 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,360 The island of Sicily, where this was derived from has three 770 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,440 capes. It's it's triang now. 771 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,000 So what we went from our church papers in in the Commonwealth of 772 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,400 Massachusetts. We're legally a church since 773 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,360 1993. Dennis Kirkpatrick and Mary were 774 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,640 the first people with me to bring, bring this guest. 775 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,000 Kirkpatrick. Isn't that funny? 776 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480 There I was too. We have all, all people in the 777 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,160 on this church and their energies. 778 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,240 So anyway, what happened is that we went up there and they said, 779 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,160 well, what does this church entail? 780 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,960 And I said to them, and Dennis said, humanity in service to 781 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,000 humanity. Do you know they stamped those 782 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,720 papers in 5 minutes? They asked no more. 783 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,040 They said this is what a church should be caring. 784 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:43,360 Yes, I recharge dudes $25 a year from everybody. 785 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,400 You know what we do with them? Dennis goes and gets the food 786 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,240 cards and gives them to the poor. 787 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,760 Isn't that funny? No, I'm not the Vatican. 788 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,080 I don't wear the sound on my head. 789 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,360 Did he? Did Jesus Christ wear a crown on 790 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,160 his head? I love it. 791 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:03,160 Yeah, they carry the force, but before it was SPQR, they're the 792 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,560 Roman legions in drag. What did I say? 793 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,720 So, Lori, what do you? I caught that, Lori. 794 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,800 I caught it. Lori, what do? 795 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,440 You try. I got news for you. 796 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,320 It'll rain. Rain, there you go. 797 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:26,280 What do you think the top mat, the top hat man is the one that 798 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,920 you saw in that house that that ended up burning? 799 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,920 Was evil the of evil who wanted to hurt children? 800 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:41,800 That's who this pervert was. You know, something what I'm 801 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,480 seeing now is like in Washington. 802 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,800 So Lori froze again. Right here. 803 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,360 But you're going to have to take my word for it. 804 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,880 We could sort of figure out what she said, but it had to do with 805 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,600 perverts, the Washington, you know, lawmakers getting cadaver 806 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,800 dogs in Epstein Island. Just just trust us. 807 00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:59,760 It was funny. It was. 808 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,880 It was funny. And they hide in very nicely in 809 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:11,120 their bank accounts, send 5 million over there, we get 4 and 810 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,720 they keep a million call kickback time. 811 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,440 Did I say that? I say that that's that's the 812 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,920 motto of the of the thing, which is really great. 813 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,840 You know, it's funny. Lord, we, we tend to on this 814 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,880 podcast have been really trying, you know, to examine spirit 815 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,960 communication, you know, and what, what are we talking to? 816 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,160 What you know, the survival afterlife and all of these 817 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,600 things and. It's, you know. 818 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:46,720 You're you're even your spiritual point of view to it is 819 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:50,720 still based around a light and an energy, which is what John 820 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:54,120 can John, you can tell Lori what you think you know, what your 821 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,440 experience has been talking to spirit and what you're finding 822 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,400 in terms of memory. But it is interesting how it's 823 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,560 still in the same sandbox, if you will. 824 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:11,440 Right. So basically I believe. 825 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,840 John has done this since he was about six years old. 826 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,520 I'm I'm sorry, boy, I couldn't hear you. 827 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:24,880 You've been with with spirits since you were six years old. 828 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:33,560 As I do have some early memories as a child, I usually don't dive 829 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,560 into them because I don't, I can't remember if it was more of 830 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,400 my imagination or if it was actually something. 831 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,560 So it is a possibility, Laurie, that is very much a possibility. 832 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,800 So my, my whole theory on, on spirits is that they're memory 833 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,480 because I'm more of a scientific kind of guy. 834 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,560 I believe that energy can't be created or destroyed. 835 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,400 You know, the whole first full circle thing that you were 836 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,720 you're speaking about. And you know, that we're dealing 837 00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:03,200 with our, our past memory, you know, like, so for example, the, 838 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,120 the husband that you speak so highly of I with my theories, 839 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,680 you know, I believe that he's with you. 840 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,760 I believe that you got some of that energy, those memories. 841 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,120 And you said it perfectly about DNA. 842 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,720 You know, it goes into our, it embeds into our DNA. 843 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,920 You know, that's just my, you know, that's my theory on it. 844 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,320 So. Correct. 845 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,720 According to the way I thought your, your theories on this very 846 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,440 correct there. There's so much, so much that 847 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:41,600 science can't explain. There was a Mass General 848 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,440 Hospital quite a few years ago. They want to see if the soul 849 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,040 existed. They put weights on the bed of 850 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,440 people who were terminally, you know, not well. 851 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:58,760 And about quarter of a pound when they died, half a pound and 852 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:04,760 even a pound left the body. It got less whether it was 853 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:10,400 things of the body leaves, all right. 854 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,640 I feel that when it's time, it will leave. 855 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,080 I know I've seen things. I've felt things about my 856 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,880 family. So Lori, real quick, real quick. 857 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,920 Lori, this is completely off topic. 858 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,040 You have a lot of beautiful jewelry on. 859 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,360 Is that a moth? Did I see? 860 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,560 I I is that AB or a mall on on your necklace? 861 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:40,720 Is that AB or a mall? It's AB. 862 00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:42,280 It's AB. It's it's gorgeous. 863 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,080 Yeah. It looks, it looks. 864 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,680 It's very pretty, Very pretty. I love your jewelry. 865 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,480 It's it's it's on point. It's a, you know. 866 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,400 It's AB, Yeah. It's. 867 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,040 AB. We got you. 868 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,960 It's AB. It's AB awesome. 869 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,640 Lori, I got a couple questions and then we're going to let you 870 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,240 go just to wrap up a couple of things. 871 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,120 I want to, you know, get your take on here. 872 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:10,200 So what guidance would you give someone looking to, to explore, 873 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:15,060 you know, a real authentic or the, the traditional quote UN 874 00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:19,000 quote witchcraft or spiritual healing today in a digital age, 875 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,920 you know, driven by trends and media and things like that, What 876 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,360 would you, how would you guide someone to, to, to do what you 877 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,320 do? I would say learn about psychic 878 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:34,400 self-defense first. Number one, learn to protect 879 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,360 yourself. Anything that might be out 880 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,240 there, OK, any negative force and one of the best books I've 881 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,040 ever, and I was there when I was a little girl. 882 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:50,120 It was Psychic self-defense by Dionne Fortune. 883 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,480 She lived in 19/21/22. It was written, but it's a very 884 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,480 it's, it's written a little archaic, but the point of the 885 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,360 matter is to protect yourself any and all. 886 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,120 Megan May? Does she write that in Cape May? 887 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,440 Is that the author from Cape May, NJ? 888 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,920 No, no, she she was from England. 889 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,280 Her name was. Her real name was Violet Firth 890 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:20,240 Firth, but she lived in England and she was part of the 891 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:26,800 Brotherhood of Light. Very fantastic lady, very kind 892 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,320 woman. She knew her stuff, let me put 893 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,280 it that way. She knew herself and. 894 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,640 The first thing is to protect yourself, Protect psychically. 895 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,240 God, I used the Archangel Michael as my protection a lot. 896 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,560 Yes, I said what I do, yes, but there are other things I do. 897 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:51,160 We do also, and I don't say they have to be kept a secret to you. 898 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:57,000 You can make up your own little words like a a poem that seals 899 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,160 off the psychic like let's say Mary had a little lamb when I 900 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,160 when I that seals the psychic door. 901 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,800 You could make any poem you want of yours that seals that psychic 902 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,440 door off. If you're afraid, like if you're 903 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,440 out somewhere and have a funny sense of hey, there's danger, 904 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,480 use that poem. Seal the the door so no one can 905 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,920 get into it. OK, I like to always keep nails, 906 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,600 iron, what they call wrought iron nails in my left pocket. 907 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,560 Why would I do that in a little red bag? 908 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,280 Now you see cemeteries, they have a lot of time. 909 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,280 Iron, Hold on. Hold on a second, Laura. 910 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,200 You started breaking up, John. I know she was breaking up for 911 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,320 you. She was breaking up for me. 912 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,800 You're saying you're just sort of just breaking up a little 913 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,160 bit. You're talking you, you. 914 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,000 You mentioned at cemeteries they use iron and iron is in. 915 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,720 Iron fence Iron fence around the the. 916 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,920 Cemetery, iron fence and. Then the plots. 917 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,720 And then some plots are even iron. 918 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,640 You know, iron plots with the iron gates. 919 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,120 He's 100% correct on that. And. 920 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,760 And and you said the iron means what? 921 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,480 What is? The iron Iron protects you 922 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:13,400 against negative force. Like I always carry in my red 923 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,920 bag. I make make an equilateral cross 924 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,680 of it and I put it in a little red bag and I carry it with me 925 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,560 on my left side because the left is where you're taking energy in 926 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,320 the right is where you give it out. 927 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,480 OK so you protect yourself with the iron nails and a little red 928 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,840 bag in your left pocket. I use silver a lot. 929 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,320 It's a protective metal. Silver. 930 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,880 Gold is beautiful but silver is your like the silver bullet. 931 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:48,240 Hello, that's not a joke. Use the silver to protect 932 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,440 yourself. I wear silver bracelet on my 933 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,080 left arm. Yes, I do wear gold on the other 934 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,120 arm. Why do I have gold? 935 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,120 Because let me tell you something. 936 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:07,000 Many years ago when people were being killed, understand me by 937 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,760 inquisitions and such, we had to have jewelry. 938 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,600 Many of us played our our way out of countries with that. 939 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,440 And always we've had jewelry that would buy your life. 940 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,880 OK, Imagine going up to an enemy and saying here's my AT&T stock 941 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,880 so you know where you can put that, OK. 942 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,240 But if you give a piece of jewelry across the border, you 943 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,320 understand, always keep that. They used to call a sack a 944 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,960 little sack. Sure. 945 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,200 That's it. That's it. 946 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,400 That's that's that's true. That's amazing. 947 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,680 Protect yourselves. Oh, and. 948 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,760 One last question for you, and again, thank you for your time. 949 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,480 So after decades of readings, blessings, house blessings, 950 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,880 church work, what gives what? What gives you the greatest 951 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,120 sense of fulfillment today? To see people happy and families 952 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,920 together and people caring for each other no matter who they 953 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,840 are or what genders they are. Just love each other and cut the 954 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,640 hate. Cut it out. 955 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,200 Seems simple enough, right? It's so simple, it's perfect. 956 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,520 The one word respect. Respect each other. 957 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,080 That's the biggest thing. Respect. 958 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,000 It's so true, John. I have no more questions for 959 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,080 Laura. She's been fantastic. 960 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,320 Do you have anything else you want to? 961 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,800 She's been, no, I just want to say that you've been an amazing 962 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,520 guest. Thank you so much for your 963 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,920 wealth of knowledge and wisdom for us. 964 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,520 You know what, during this podcast, it was, it was 965 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,840 incredible having you as a guest. 966 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,000 Thank you so much. Yeah, it really is something 967 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:50,560 else. It's not. 968 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,240 It's not what people would think of when they think Salem Witch. 969 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,040 Yeah, I love every. Time people need a wake up call. 970 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,560 Universal Witch. Universal Marga. 971 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,880 Universal Marga. Listen to me. 972 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,360 You both are trying to put the truth out there. 973 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,600 Please do. Please. 974 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,280 We're not your horrid stereotypes. 975 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,320 A lot of them don't even know what they're doing. 976 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,160 They need to learn. They. 977 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,320 You see, this is our cross of our our church. 978 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,880 Oh, my God. She's right across. 979 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,480 Yes, it is. It's the equal equilateral. 980 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,880 It has a star in the middle of the pentacle. 981 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,760 Yes, but it means all equality for all humanity and all the 982 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,520 animal world. Love your animals. 983 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,680 Oh my God, yes. Love all that lives and you will 984 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,080 live because in living you are giving and in giving you a 985 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,080 living. Blessed be to thee now through 986 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:51,480 all eternity and with love I say goodnight and keep the light 987 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,640 scares. The doctors love you. 988 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,360 Love you too, Lori. Thank you so much. 989 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:03,040 Thank you so much. Don't break up right the 990 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,120 goodbyes. Yeah, breaking up right the 991 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,480 goodbyes. But hey, listen, really 992 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,600 appreciate your time and your knowledge and your wisdom on all 993 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,760 your subjects. It was great hearing your 994 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,520 stories. Yeah, well, super. 995 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,920 Everyone, thank you so much. All right, Lori. 996 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,800 I love you. Love you too. 997 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:24,400 All of you. Well. 998 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,160 Thank you so much. Bye bye bye bye bye Bella, take 999 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,600 care. Bye. 1000 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,680 All right. That was that. 1001 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,000 That was a trip, man. I mean, it's like. 1002 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,400 Listen, I was stressing out trying to get over here to do 1003 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:45,480 this and you were and got like 100% throwing it out there. 1004 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,480 I even texted Gary and I was like, yo, I don't think I could 1005 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,640 do the podcast today, you know, interviewer by yourself. 1006 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,200 And Gary was like, OK dude, no problem. 1007 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,440 But I think you should be here for this. 1008 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,880 And I was like, all right, fine, you know, And you were 100% 1009 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,920 correct. It's really interesting, right 1010 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,760 I? Think she was really She was 1011 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,200 great. But but like no joke, I do think 1012 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,520 it's interesting she she's got this literally centuries old 1013 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,480 lineage that she can trace back, right, like centuries old to her 1014 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,440 family line. She doesn't need, you know, 1015 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,800 23andMe to do it. She's she knows where it was. 1016 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:29,200 And the belief system is so similar to your belief system, 1017 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,720 but hers is rooted in a spirituality, spiritual place 1018 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:39,360 and, and yours is a scientific place, right, Which is just talk 1019 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,720 about the, you know, the arc of things. 1020 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:46,480 And it's so funny how most people we're talking to tend to 1021 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,760 agree what a soul is, you know? Yeah. 1022 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,400 And it's like, especially with the dichotomy of her, you know, 1023 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,360 having a Catholic back, you know, 'cause let's say you're 1024 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,040 not Italian, you definitely got a Catholic. 1025 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,520 She's definitely got a Catholic background. 1026 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,080 And then still having this, taking that and creating their 1027 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,160 own sort of system through it, you know, what I mean? 1028 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,080 Becomes a whole, you know, we all we you and I both know the 1029 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,640 Catholic Church and with all that, not all that is so for her 1030 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,760 to take that stand and her family stand and it got her 1031 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:21,280 family burned and exiled for it. So it's just sort of like we 1032 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,400 still go around and and believe that stuff. 1033 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,120 It's wild, dude. And you know, look, it's a whole 1034 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,240 other Ave. to spirit communication, right, this sort 1035 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,000 of the the. So I didn't, you know, I brought 1036 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,960 it up a little bit with her, but I could tell like, you know, not 1037 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,480 that she wouldn't want to talk about it, but she was going to 1038 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,240 be very secretive, like on her end about the subject, dude, 1039 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,320 when it comes to Italians and witchcraft, all right. 1040 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,200 It's just so prevalent, dude. Even with the mafia, when, when, 1041 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,760 when, when you get, you know, when you become a made man. 1042 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,360 A lot of people don't know that there's actual rituals involved 1043 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,480 with that. It has to do with pricking. 1044 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,480 You know, some of them are like pricking your finger with blood 1045 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,760 and you know, putting it on the card and putting it to your head 1046 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,280 and like it depends on. What? 1047 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,040 It depends on what clan you're getting indoctrinated into, 1048 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,880 because it's actually more clans than it is like family, but 1049 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,120 that's besides the point. And then when you, when it, you 1050 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,440 know, comes over to the New world, we consider it family and 1051 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,000 mafia and all that. But over in Italy, for example, 1052 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,480 it's more clan and clan warfare and things like that. 1053 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,720 So with the clans, I mean, listen, they'll drink their 1054 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,520 bodily fluids. They go through, they do a bunch 1055 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,880 of rituals that are not spoken about and it's. 1056 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,080 But this is, but even this is what's more wild to me. 1057 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,720 And it's like when you're talking about she's in like, 1058 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,640 Brooklyn, and you know, they're going to church on Sunday. 1059 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:47,600 Yes. Oh yeah. 1060 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,880 Right. And then it's like, all right, 1061 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,200 we tried all that. Now let's go see the Brunos and 1062 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,800 check out these witches. You know what I mean? 1063 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,000 Let's go see the witch because we need some extra help. 1064 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,280 And it's like so that all the faith and the thing and like all 1065 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,440 this and that is thrown out the window. 1066 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,880 You know what I mean? It's just the hypocrisy, I guess 1067 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,280 it's sort of the all of it. And you know what I mean, that 1068 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,840 we've had that we have to deal with all you. 1069 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,280 Know what? It's almost, it's almost like 1070 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:20,240 what she was getting at is that there is this like secret sect 1071 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,000 in the, in the church that has to do with witchcraft. 1072 01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:27,800 You know, like if you listen to what she was saying, it was like 1073 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,120 almost like this like secretive. But it's again going back. 1074 01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:33,800 It's the same thing with the clans and the mafia and their 1075 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,680 secret rituals of being, you know, accepted into the family, 1076 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,840 the and the loyalty rituals and all that, which is insane. 1077 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,760 So yeah, listen, it was a great episode. 1078 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,600 She was awesome. It was awesome. 1079 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,240 I checked this out. Did I show you this? 1080 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,479 That's the thing I got like, do you see that? 1081 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,520 Oh, that's sick. That's sick. 1082 01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:58,319 Yeah, that's awesome. That is awesome. 1083 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,720 Guys, I'm showing John a new our logo here in in neon form to 1084 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,960 sort of keep things. Up in the it's just like how I 1085 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,000 have the Santa paranormal logo, you know? 1086 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,920 Yeah, yeah, that is bad at Dude. I love it. 1087 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,240 Perfect, John. This is a good one, man. 1088 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,040 Yeah. Until next time. 1089 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,120 More spirit conversation. That's it. 1090 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,200 That'll be it, Gary. Have a good one. 1091 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,720 I'll talk to you. Goodbye everybody, thank you for 1092 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,359 listening. That's it for this week's 1093 01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,359 Splendid Spirits. Thank you so much for listening. 1094 01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:33,040 Be sure to follow and subscribe to our YouTube channel and 1095 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,000 wherever you get your podcasts. Till next time.