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All right, let's just give me 
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How you been? 
What's been going on in the 

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world of paranormal? 
You know, the usual, the usual, 

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talk to the spirits. 
It's about it. 

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You know, we had a lot of 
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night for the bonus. 
I ended up going on about 3:34 

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in the morning. 
It just started getting crazy 

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what happened there and just 
voices. 

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You can hear voices upstairs on 
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you know, just all sorts of 
slamming doors, all sorts of 

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wild stuff. 
And the spirit shatter was just 

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on point. 
They were just talking about 

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everything. 
I was talking and responding and

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it was just, you could tell 
whatever was going on, it was, 

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we were tuned in. 
So it was pretty wild other than

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that, you know, crazy, crazy 
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Been a lot of people calling the
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We were at Letchworth the other 
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We had someone call the cops a 
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kicked out of there. 
After the final time. 

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They were like, yeah, you guys 
got to go. 

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They people keep calling. 
Yeah, you mentioned that. 

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That's weird. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's just haters, you know, part
of the gig. 

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That's why I keep telling people
I can't go in those buildings. 

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You know, if I go in those 
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arrested. 
You know, it's not like I'm, I'm

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not a small fry that can just, 
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in those buildings and no one's 
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the cops. 
You know, people will take any 

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opportunity to bring me down, 
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All right, well, Tik Tok's not 
TikTok is not working today 

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guys, so it's not responding 
TikTok studio so. 

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Yeah, they're, they're, they're 
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So it's been. 
Stop that. 

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It's. 
Almost like they're changing 

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servers. 
You know, maybe. 

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You know, it's almost like 
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I wonder if I'm getting the 
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play it maybe? 
Then how do I not hear? 

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I don't want to hear this Check 
check. 

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Can you hear me if I do talk 
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Yeah. 
Oh yeah, I hear you just fine. 

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So weird man. 
Yeah. 

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We'll have to figure this out 
some other time, but it's 

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distracting me and I might have 
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where we normally go so we can 
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splintered spirits. 
Yes, yes, we have an episode for

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them. 
Yeah, man. 

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Listen, sorry for the delay 
here, guys. 

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Unless I'm trying to figure 
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You know what's? 
Well, this is crazy. 

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Now check. 
Check. 

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Let me ask you something. 
It's. 

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Clearly an OBS issue when I. 
See on my screen right they can 

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see correct. 
Like, no, they're looking at it.

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It's however YouTube looks at 
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You know, in like the main, the 
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side chat or the full or maybe 
you know, no, they can see their

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own chat on YouTube. 
You know what I mean? 

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Well, so I was wondering they're
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right now because they probably 
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at the same time in the in the 
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Oh, that's possible, yeah. 
Yeah, maybe you guys can find 

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and see how small this place is.
Yeah, everyone thinks it's big. 

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It's not. 
So very small. 

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So yes, look, welcome. 
Sorry for the delay guys. 

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I know there's not a lot of you.
And maybe because of all the 

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noise and the distractions, 
we're trying some new stuff and 

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always trying to get technically
savvy when we're trying to 

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figure it out, but it doesn't 
work. 

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So welcome to Splintered Spirits
podcast hosted by yours truly 

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Gary and my nephew John Santa 
from Santa Paranormal. 

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John, welcome to Splintered 
Spirits on this Thursday. 

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We had a hell of a week on 
social media that is for sure. 

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I don't know if you guys are 
following us, but man, we just 

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blew up. 
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Splintered Spirits blew up on 
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I I think I, I went from 200 
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I think I have almost as many 
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TikTok now. 
And you are at you jumped from 

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22 grand to over 100 grand in 
like 36 hours. 

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Yeah, dude, it's I think, I 
think, I think it right now it's

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like AA155156K something like 
that might even be more that is.

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Insane I haven't even checked, 
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We just had a hell of a a blow 
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So thank you for that guys you 
know keep sharing, keep liking, 

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keep subscribing tell a friend 
it's really interesting and I'm 

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looking at it. 
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Instagram, so I got to make it. 
I want to make the lives work 

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over there. 
I got to figure out now why I'm 

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getting that kind of reverb into
into everything, which I'll Dick

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around with and test, but what's
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notice about TikTok, and I'm 
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on there today. 
It's like you TikTok doesn't 

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work for you. 
You work for TikTok, yes, and 

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everything is designed to for 
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Not even it's not Even so 
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It's just to make you think 
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but you're really doing it for 
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And if you don't, and if you 
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get pushed, you don't get the 
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It's not it's all about them, 
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And it's like, you know, so 
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that way, you know, and it got 
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Is it really it? 
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them. 
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it for years with them too, it's
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They want a certain look, they 
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speak, they want certain 
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It is all about what they want, 
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Dude, it's all it's even beyond 
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it's just sort I, I pull up the 
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didn't work and we kept quitting
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don't forget you set your goals.
Oh, you should be saying this. 

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Hey, should you tell anybody 
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TikTok? 
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weird. 
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I would love to make YouTube and
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at least splintered spirits and 
to be and Spotify and everywhere

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that podcasts are and just not 
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You know, it's, it's funny, I 
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last night, 'cause last night I 
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I was on, I was on the phone 
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what I always said and, and that
we regret building everything on

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TikTok and not other platforms 
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YouTube or anything until the 
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what, just in case, you know, we
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it's so true. 
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he feels that way, I can imagine
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the the thing about TikTok is 
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being a live creator like you 
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It's a cut above it's a. 
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fantastic. 
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live creator, it's never it's 
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broadcast to the world in in a 
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simple. 
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Instagram. 
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I'm live. 
If you try to find a live on 

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there, it's really hard. 
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Really hard YouTube is. 
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is it's not a place for shorts 
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No and and and with the lives 
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because you a little a little 
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Signal will make it go crazy. 
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They did that on purpose. 
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However, you know, they should 
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when somebody you know signs up 
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You think they would make the 
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chat so you can see them too, 
but it it's YouTube's got a long

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way. 
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wise, but they got a long way to
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compete with TikTok and that's 
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competes with TikTok. 
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someone's like favored rainbow 
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all you want. 
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numbers, there is nothing that 
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there's nothing even in the 

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it's nowhere near close enough, 
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has a stranglehold on creators, 
you know, and but you know what 

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we have to do. 
I can't even say YouTube. 

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I'm on TikTok. 
I know that's the thing, right? 

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You can't even say. 
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and and and their AI that's 
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it will jump on you real easy 
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It's nuts. 
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Well, look, we're not having 
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going on. 
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what now if you feel like it 
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chat splintered spirits. 
You can do it. 

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You can be a be a hero. 
We we like it. 

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We like money at splintered 
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To keep this keep this thing 
going helps us get better 

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guests, helps us get better 
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Not that we pay our guests 
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I don't mean it like that, but 
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the outreach to help us pursue 
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All of that research is is heavy
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don't get back to you right 
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Speaking of guests, you know our
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with about past life regression.
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who was absolutely fun. 
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She was a trip and that was our 
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You can catch both of those out 
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This week we dropped an old one.

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Dude, Can you believe we shot 
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We recorded that a year ago. 
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That's when you first talked 
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be a good Segway into what we're
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And then this is a reminder. 
Next week, we have author Joni 

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Mahan and I interviewed Joni 
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wrote a bunch of books. 
She was a friend of Sam, another

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author, psychic medium who we 
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isn't as fun as a lot of the 
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She's considers just like the 
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spirits has been more of a curse
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And it's a little creepy and 
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someone dealing and managing a 
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And that's so it's a real 
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of what spirits are and how 
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which is what this whole podcast
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So that's going to be Tuesday. 
Take a listen. 

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But anyway, back to Edward. 
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This space is kind of where a 
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Yeah, John. 
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this is the third spot that I 
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the 1st 2 still being on this 
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focal point of my documentation 
for about a year, about a year, 

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maybe even more. 
We, we sat in here. 

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I mean, we sat I've done 
consecutive sessions, you know, 

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in this, in in this fireplace 
room and you know the places 

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guys, shit ton of history. 
Might as well talk about that 

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for a minute. 
If you guys were to take a look 

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at back here, you will see a 
fireplace. 

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Now this fireplace looks a 
little strange. 

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Why? 
Cuz it's been repaired. 

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In the 1700s it was all 
fieldstone but by the time the 

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British destroyed this place and
Edward came in and built his 

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home on the foundation, he had 
some repairs to do. 

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Hence the brick. 
So this place goes all if you if

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you're unsure about the 
fireplace or don't know exactly,

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this does go back to the 1700s. 
In the 1800s, I have no idea 

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what Edward used this for. 
I have no idea, but I get. 

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What do you think? 
What do you think he used it 

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for? 
Oh, I think he, he did a whole 

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lot of horrible things in here. 
I've had spirits describe 

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getting lined up by the 
fireplace and, you know, just 

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sacrifice and all sorts of crazy
shit. 

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The floor is hollow over here. 
There's a whole undercroft to 

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this place that you know, I 
don't even think I can get into.

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There's a whole sub basement 
here that who knows how deep and

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where it goes. 
I know. 

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You haven't tried to figure that
one. 

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You haven't tried to figure that
out yet. 

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Dude, let me tell you something.
The last thing I do if I ever do

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leave here is I'm literally 
taking a sledgehammer to the 

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fireplace because that's a 
collapsed tunnel. 

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I've removed the brick and I 
sent a camera in there, like a 

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plumber's camera or a 
contractor's camera I set. 

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One and what'd you see? 
Oh, it's a collapsed tunnel. 

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You could just see all the 
debris, but you could see like 

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spider webs and like shit moving
like out of a movie. 

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Really. 
Yeah. 

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It looked like there was a 
couple coins too, but I couldn't

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really tell. 
I don't know if they were just 

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pieces of metal or like, yeah, 
there's there's there's stuff 

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going on back there. 
So I've removed 1 brick just to 

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get get an idea. 
You could feel air coming from 

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it, which is wild because we're 
underground right now, you know,

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like this is like, in fact right
here, like literally right where

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I'm at back to the fireplace is 
all the front steps of the 

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building. 
So going towards the street, So 

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so. 
That's the wall. 

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That's the wall of the street. 
OK, Matt. 

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Matt. 
So we're going to show some fun 

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stuff, I think to the people 
today about some of the 

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classics, some of the classic 
things where what was the first 

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weird thing you saw in there? 
Like what was the OR the first? 

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Let's, let's, let's, since we're
thinking about what we're going 

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to show today, the first 
physical manifestation outside 

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of the audio. 
OK, so the, the, the first thing

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that I ever saw, it was actually
when I was doing my eBay store 

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and I saw a figure, if you will,
your classic like shadowed 

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figure, you know, and I saw it 
from the corner of my eye and 

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I'm like, oh, maybe it's just a 
dust in here, you know, 

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peripheral vision. 
And then I ended up seeing it 

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again. 
And then I'm like, OK, no, 

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there's definitely something 
down here. 

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So that was like the first. 
But I just went about my 

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business, you know, I didn't, 
you know, do anything different 

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or get scared or anything like 
that. 

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So yeah, I was like the first. 
And then when I was running my 

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eBay store, I'd have some things
move, things would be messed 

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with. 
I'm like, OK, I know there's no 

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way that fell on its own, you 
know, that was secure. 

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That was placed neatly, like, 
you know, so I've had stuff like

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that happening and that was all 
before. 

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And that was all, you know, that
and and and this whole room was 

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was abandoned. 
This was like horrible, like the

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way the abandoned side looks so 
filled with, you know, cobwebs 

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and dust and just, you know, 
grime and filth. 

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And this original wall was 
painted. 

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It was it was originally white 
and all the paint was flayed 

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gigs. 
So I ended up cleaning all this 

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up. 
I restored all this and brought 

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this back to its original 
original look so. 

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That's cool, yeah. 
Yeah, originally, so now. 

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You got a lot of candles that 
have fallen back there. 

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I've had candles fall, I've had 
handles explode and I don't even

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remember happening. 
Like people say. 

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No, this happened on live and 
then I had like live guests that

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would be down here when it would
happen and they'd have to remind

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me. 
No job. 

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Remember the time that candle 
exploded? 

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Remember that time that candle 
got thrown off the. 

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And I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, 
yeah, You know, 'cause things 

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that things happen on and off 
camera too, you know, on and off

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live. 
So. 

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But yeah, we've had candles fly 
off multiple times, you know? 

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Let's take a look at this one. 
Let's take a look at this 

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classic 'cause I I like this 
video because they warned you 

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first. 
Yes, they gave you a quick 

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warning that they were going to 
break something. 

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Let's check this out guys. 
Break it snippy 2 player for 

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real. 
Spooky toes shit that scared the

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fucking shit out of me. 
Holy fuck, and a cat ball is 

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going off over here. 
Spooky. 

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Thank you for fingering my heart
a notch. 

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What the fuck? 
Oh wait. 

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Oh wait. 
That's crazy. 

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First of all, look at, look at 
you. 

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Look at that hairdo. 
Yeah. 

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Oh yeah, those. 
Are great. 

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That had to be. 
That had to be 2022. 

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It looks like by the 2022 maybe 
the beginning of 2023. 

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So that that wasn't the 1st, 
that wasn't the first candle 

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fall and and you still, you 
certainly feel like that's worth

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like, you know, Hey, this is 
just something that they do 

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here. 
Yes, yeah. 

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Oh, yeah, definitely. 
Sometimes you would catch me off

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guard, like in that video, you 
know, you're not, you know? 

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And then other times I used to 
be, when I used to try to keep 

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this place like immaculately 
clean because I used to try to 

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keep this place like as clean as
possible, I used to get pissed 

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because the wax would go all 
over the place. 

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So there's other videos of me 
just getting so angry that they 

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knocked one over because wax 
would go all over the place. 

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Well, I think I got one of 
those. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Where you get real upset. 

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Yeah, because it's usually right
after I got done cleaning. 

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Yeah, I cleaned up and it went 
live, and then all of a sudden 

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one falls and wax goes all over 
and it's like, come on. 

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Wait, I wonder if it's this one.
Sure. 

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Let me share. 
Let me show everybody this one. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Let's see. 

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I think it's this. 
I think fell apart. 

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Original to the 18 hundredth 
build. 

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Let's see 1860 Build Original to
the 1800s bill so that 160 bill 

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with this place finish bill. 
So that window just completely 

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we fucking go spirits, here we 
fucking go. 

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Are we really starting this? 
You literally just took out 

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three candles in one shot. 
No, you're not doing it again. 

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Literally just took out not do 
it again spirits in one shot 

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again. 
No, you're not doing it again. 

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Do it again. 
Do not do it again, spirits. 

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Wax goes everywhere. 
It's such a pain in the ass. 

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Do it again, please. 
Please. 

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Wax goes everywhere. 
It's such a pain in the ass to 

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clean. 
Who is that? 

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Sam? 
Zach, are you knocking down 

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candles again? 
Who is that? 

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Zach. 
Zach, are you knocking down 

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candles again? 
Even any boy doesn't do this. 

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Even any boy doesn't do this. 
No. 

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It was made ten. 
It was you. 

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It was you. 
Excuse me, Spirit, who are you? 

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Why did you knock down my 
candles using this? 

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Why you're using Spirit? 
Who are you? 

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Why did you knock down my 
candles? 

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Oh, you're going to start start 
takes with Judy. 

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Oh, know why I'm start takes 
with Judy? 

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You know why I'm here? 
Anyway, that's a great like. 

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Yeah, that's this classic back 
in the day fireplace room, you 

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know. 
Now who? 

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Is Zach. 
So Zach is definitely a spirit 

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that well, I don't know if he's 
still around, but he used to 

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like to knock over candles. 
Like he admitted that it was him

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doing it. 
We have no idea. 

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I couldn't find anybody who 
named Zach who lived here in the

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building. 
So I don't know if it was maybe 

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a hospital spirit or someone 
from before, but you know, he 

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called himself Zach and that's 
all we really do it. 

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Oh, and his mother, Teresa to 
get with his mother. 

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It all started with him when we 
saw a woman in the mirror and it

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was his mother. 
He claimed it was his mother and

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he was upset that his mother was
stuck in the mirror. 

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And I actually have a video on 
my YouTube going all the way 

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back to, I think, to 2021 or 
2022 about that. 

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It was a private session. 
It's called Mother in the 

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Mirror. 
It's actually. 

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Yeah. 
So it's a wild one. 

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They're knocking over candles 
and. 

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It was all. 
That's weird. 

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I've never. 
Yeah, I haven't heard about 

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Zach. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
And then and then what? 

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When did when did that for you 
stop coming through? 

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Oh well, I would have to say 
probably. 

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Maybe 2023, this place really 
started to change. 

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Like we, we, everything changed 
about it. 

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We would hear spirits like I'm 
say, I'm new here or, you know, 

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spirits wondering where they 
are. 

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And it was like, wait a minute, 
like you don't know where you 

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are. 
You are, you're trapped here. 

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And then we just noticed, like a
lot of the other spirits that 

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would always come through stop 
coming through, and we're 

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getting new ones. 
John, is there any rhyme or 

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reason to the length of time a 
spirit sticks around or 

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communicates with you? 
No, no, I have. 

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I have no, I have no idea. 
Like no idea. 

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Like that's like even like 
looking at all the data, like I 

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still like what makes, for 
example, what made so getting 

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into Edward, what make Edwards 
stay here for so long and then 

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all of a sudden now he's gone. 
What made Joseph Churchwell come

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through for so long the way he 
did? 

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And then he left and then he 
came back and now he's not the 

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same. 
Like he doesn't speak the same 

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way. 
He's not as strong. 

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Like what governs it? 
I don't know if it's one thing 

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if it's multiple different 
factors. 

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If I didn't take a guess, I'd 
say multiple different factors. 

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It could be all sorts of reasons
why things happen. 

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I don't think it's one 
particular thing, but As for 

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what those reasons are, I have 
no idea. 

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I have a question. 
What about, OK, what was the 

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longest span of time since your 
discovery of Edward to when you 

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were not in the fireplace room? 
Meaning, All right, you know, 

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you go down there. 
Were you going down there every 

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night? 
Every other night. 

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Every night a week, every night 
you're. 

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Going down there every night and
you had Edward there and then 

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you started to slow down a bit 
and then what was the longest 

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stretch when you were when 
Edward was a regular that you 

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would not be in the fireplace 
room? 

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Or in that area months. 
Months. 

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So you've been, you've been 
gone. 

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You've you've not been in the 
fireplace room for months. 

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Months. 
And then, and then he's and then

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he's still been here. 
Yes, yes. 

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00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,840
Now, after that ban you had, you
took some time off from there. 

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00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,320
Yeah, yes, yeah, No, no. 
Was that when you say you were 

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off for months, was that does 
that mean you never went in 

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there, you just never streamed 
from there? 

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No, I'd come in here still for 
various things, but I wouldn't 

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spend, but I wouldn't spend any 
more than like 5 minutes in 

451
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,680
here. 
You. 

452
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,560
Know and when you were banned, 
did you still go in there? 

453
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:57,960
No, I can't remember. 
I don't think so. 

454
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,240
After that last ban. 
Yeah, yeah, I don't think so. 

455
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,240
I think I was like, yeah, I'm 
I'm done. 

456
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,040
It was pretty anti displaced 
after that. 

457
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,040
Well, I'm just, I mean, look, 
I'm just here I am. 

458
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,560
I'm talking, let's talk a little
bit about energy and the need 

459
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:19,440
for energy. 
Is there a possible connection 

460
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:26,520
that your absence for an 
extended period of time after 

461
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,880
that ban caused his need or his 
this spirit's energy or ability 

462
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,600
to to be fed is that could that 
be? 

463
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,600
I mean, listen, anything's 
possible, right? 

464
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600
Anything's possible in this 
probable. 

465
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,640
Seeing the fact that I have left
before and have come back and 

466
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,640
he's been here. 
I don't know, like I don't know 

467
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,320
if it has to do with me. 
But here's the other thing too. 

468
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,960
I've since realizing that Edward
isn't here. 

469
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:06,520
I've done 3 streams in here and 
nothing still and I'm going to 

470
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,120
do 1 tonight in here. 
This is we're doing the 

471
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,680
fireplace room tonight, you 
know, leading it late, you know,

472
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,880
leading from this. 
Do you like it? 

473
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Does it? 
Does the overall vibe of the 

474
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,440
place feel better or does it no 
no. 

475
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,840
But the vibe doesn't feel 
better. 

476
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,200
It's just great. 
That's weird. 

477
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,240
It's just great not listening to
Edward, you know, talk shit. 

478
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,760
Well, why do you? 
Well, he was probably a major 

479
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,840
force for a negative vibe. 
So why do you think there's 

480
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,880
still a bad vibe in there? 
Because it's just this place, 

481
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,120
you know, Edward was more. 
It wasn't just the only stain, 

482
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,520
if you will. 
You know, the Spanish flu, the 

483
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,600
experimental hospital, 
everything that happened before 

484
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,440
when this was an outpost, which 
we have very little history on, 

485
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:54,360
you know? 
Yeah. 

486
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,400
All right, well, that's 
interesting, dude. 

487
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,080
So then, so we had, but you 
don't think Edward was the one 

488
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720
knocking things over? 
You think there were other 

489
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,760
spirits knocked things over? 
I think, I think there were 

490
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800
definitely other spirits 
knocking things over, but I 

491
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,080
wouldn't put it past Edward if 
he had his hand in that or was 

492
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,160
knocking things over as well. 
Now, John, tell us why you don't

493
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,120
think that it was just, you 
know, heat and melted wax that 

494
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:28,960
knocked those candles over. 
So the very, very simple fact is

495
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,960
some of them, and I think I 
don't know if you, if you have 

496
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,120
all the videos, there's even one
video where I even straight up 

497
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,520
say, hey guys, I melted the 
bottom of the candle and stuck 

498
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,840
it down so it won't get knocked 
over. 

499
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,720
And then all the sudden one of 
the spirits just knock it right 

500
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,160
over. 
And I'm just like, you know, 

501
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,440
like, come on. 
Really. 

502
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:55,040
So I do pretty well to make sure
they are balanced, to make sure 

503
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,960
they're not going to tip over. 
I put them right in the sweet 

504
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,320
spots, if you will, you know, so
they don't go flying off. 

505
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,720
And yeah. 
And most of the time, most of 

506
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,960
the time when they do fall over,
if there are a little uneven 

507
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,680
wax, they'll actually fall over 
rather than forward because of 

508
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,480
the way the the fireplace is 
pitched. 

509
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880
All right, well, tell me then, 
what the hell knocked this thing

510
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:31,770
over? 
Look at this. 

511
00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:35,570
Look at this young man. 
Look at this young man. 

512
00:29:37,890 --> 00:29:39,570
With the cat balls shit, are you
OK going? 

513
00:29:48,010 --> 00:29:50,840
Well, they didn't like that very
much. 

514
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,320
That's for God damn sure. 
Look at your name. 

515
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320
They. 
Did not like that very. 

516
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,080
Much 24 Why am I here close. 
All right, so a couple things 

517
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,640
real quick and some of you might
be might be confused about this 

518
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,680
video. 
First off, that wasn't a 

519
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,680
disembodied voice you heard say 
shit, OK, Because I know you can

520
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,840
hear that. 
That was my friend Laura. 

521
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,080
You guys know I have my driver, 
Matt. 

522
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,120
That's her boyfriend, right? 
So my and she's my friend. 

523
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,480
And so she was there with me 
that night when those fell over.

524
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,520
And I'm so happy that she didn't
get freaked out and run out 

525
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,720
screaming. 
She waited to see what my 

526
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,840
reaction was before she, you 
know, so she, so I had AI had a,

527
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,320
an actual human being in there 
that night with me when those 

528
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,880
fell over, right. 
The second thing is it looks 

529
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,720
like a different interface 
because it is, it's not TikTok. 

530
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,160
That was on Clapper. 
That was one of the times I was 

531
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600
banned because remember, I used 
to get banned on TikTok all the 

532
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,960
time and I had to go on Clapper 
to do the session because I 

533
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,560
wasn't allowed on TikTok. 
And yeah, yeah, it was under 

534
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Wesley Manor, not, you know, 
Santa Paranormal. 

535
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
So that's how far back that 
video goes. 

536
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,200
The CCP does not like your 
actions, youngster. 

537
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,680
The chairman. 
The chairman does not approve. 

538
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Nope. 
Nope. 

539
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,720
They thought I was going to be a
Venturian candidate, you know, 

540
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,840
but. 
Oh my. 

541
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,040
God, they're trying to snuff me 
out real quick. 

542
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,160
But yeah, so now in that video, 
let's talk about in the video, 

543
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,320
you hear the same voice, right? 
The apps, the same voice. 

544
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Believe it or not, that was 
Ghost Tube original before they 

545
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,320
upgraded and they had a dynamic 
setting. 

546
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,640
So every spirit sounded the 
same, kind of like the way 

547
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,120
necrometer does it, right? 
Every spirit sounded the same. 

548
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,320
So that's why it was that same 
continuous voice. 

549
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:10,240
And that mirror that fell ended 
up taking out two other mirrors,

550
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,400
including the one from the goat 
man video, which I think you 

551
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,080
spoke about. 
And that goat man that that goat

552
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,200
man in that mirror used to catch
so many different spirits in it.

553
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,680
And the spirits just took it 
right out in one shot. 

554
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560
So yeah, let me show you, let me
show everybody this Goat man 

555
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,520
video that you sent me. 
I think this is the one. 

556
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,720
So they get a look at it. 
What we're talking about here, 

557
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,680
not to be confused with Spoon 
Man, this is. 

558
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:52,890
Spoon man? 
Hell yeah, look at that. 

559
00:32:54,650 --> 00:33:02,860
And I missed that mirror. 
Show it one more time for 

560
00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:14,700
everybody. 
Oh yeah, that video goes into 

561
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:20,300
the multiverse, by the way. 
What does that mean? 

562
00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:26,520
That entity claimed to be me 
from another universe. 

563
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,080
This that. 
Wait a minute. 

564
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,840
What is it? 
What are you? 

565
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,720
What are you highlighting here? 
This pink thing or this hood? 

566
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760
We I don't know what the pink 
thing is. 

567
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,440
If you look at the, it almost 
looks like it's eating or 

568
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,640
breathing it out. 
If you look at the hood and you 

569
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,040
look at the figure, if you look 
in the face, you see a skull. 

570
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,360
Yes, it looks like a skull here.
Looks. 

571
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Like a skull. 
Now that entity claimed to be me

572
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:02,960
from another universe back in 
the day, so go figure. 

573
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,680
It's like an evil version of me.
Do you see the face? 

574
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,080
Looks like it's called void 
empty, right? 

575
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440
And then the goat man, though 
when we're just we just go back 

576
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,360
to the goat man. 
So let's go back to the So these

577
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,880
two little brightly, see these 
two little dots on the top. 

578
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:21,760
Is that the? 
Is that a? 

579
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,719
Is that the eyes? 
Supposed to be the eyes. 

580
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Yep, and you can see the horns 
above that. 

581
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:32,199
Now the goat man is an entity 
that is many people have seen 

582
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,480
it. 
So I don't think it's that 

583
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,480
particular entity is actually 
the goat man. 

584
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,120
I just think it's an entity that
personifies itself as that, if 

585
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,840
that makes any sense. 
Because multiple people have 

586
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,719
seen goat men before. 
So I don't think this is the 

587
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,960
same goat man seen in other 
locations. 

588
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,520
I think this is a particular 
entity that was here or is still

589
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,120
here. 
Who knows. 

590
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,640
That was years ago. 
Got it. 

591
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,840
Can you guys see my cursor on 
here so you can see what I'm 

592
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,040
pointing at? 
I think you can. 

593
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,480
So these two little dots are 
eyes. 

594
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,560
I think this is what he's 
referring to as orange right 

595
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,040
here, right? 
Yep, Yep, and. 

596
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,680
Then it's like legs down here. 
It's like this is a goat man 

597
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Goat man. 
So, and, and you know, those 

598
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,600
who've been following for a 
while know there's tons of other

599
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,520
things that have been caught in 
the, in these mirrors in the 

600
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,680
past. 
So you know the the. 

601
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,560
And now that mirror, that 
mirror, I guess we went out of 

602
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,680
order, like we we were not 
linear here. 

603
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,480
That mirror is then something 
that that died destroyed when 

604
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,840
that thing fell over. 
Yeah, when that other mirror 

605
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,520
fell over, that mirror got to 
including the original door 

606
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,720
mirror. 
You see this mirror I have here?

607
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880
This is a door from the 1930 
build. 

608
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,560
But when this place became an 
apartment building, they swapped

609
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,240
out all the doors for these door
mirrors. 

610
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:02,480
In the 30s, I had another one 
that the spirits ended up 

611
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,960
destroying. 
In that video it takes out all 

612
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,000
three of the mirrors, the one 
that fell, the one that the goat

613
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,480
man was caught in, and then the 
original door mirror. 

614
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,640
That is, it's a lot of bad luck.
Yeah, yeah, I don't feel it. 

615
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,840
That level somebody that exactly
I didn't. 

616
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Break any of them you know, It's
not like. 

617
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,560
Right. 
That's what I mean exactly. 

618
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,720
You didn't. 
Technically, you did not break 

619
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:30,720
any of those. 
Mirrors. 

620
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,360
And they would threaten to 
destroy these mirrors all the 

621
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040
time. 
You know, I got the videos of 

622
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,280
them shaking them, trying to 
move them, all sorts of things. 

623
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,240
You know, it's just something 
that they were threatening for a

624
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:48,520
while and finally did. 
What is the future of the of the

625
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,920
fireplace room holds here John? 
You know, that's a great 

626
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,200
question. 
I don't know. 

627
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,720
I'm still trying to figure that 
out. 

628
00:36:55,720 --> 00:37:02,800
I mean, listen strategically. 
Strategically, I would want 

629
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,040
multiple places in the winter 
for when the weather's bad, 

630
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,760
right? 
And this place, still to any 

631
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,680
anybody doing the paranormal is 
a gold mine, right? 

632
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,680
You're going to, you're 
streaming here enough, you're 

633
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,280
going to catch something. 
Something is going to happen. 

634
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:25,680
Something is going to pop off. 
So, you know, I don't want to 

635
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,800
get rid of this place, but I 
definitely don't want to be 

636
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,000
stuck here. 
So I'm going to try to have, 

637
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,760
well, the business is going to 
try to hold on to it as long as 

638
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,240
we can, you know, and if I 
can't, you know, if I got to 

639
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:44,000
start trimming the fat, you bet,
you best bet this place is gone.

640
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,040
You know what I mean? 
I'd rather get rid of this place

641
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,960
than the tower just because I I 
don't like this place. 

642
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Do you think that's the most 
haunted place in town? 

643
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,280
Oh, that's a great question. 
That is a great question. 

644
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:05,160
In the 2 1/2 square miles. 
Yes, yes, hands down. 

645
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,960
I do. 
I think it's it's a toss up 

646
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,800
between this place. 
It's a toss up between the 

647
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:21,120
factory and maybe maybe the old 
Horton School, which is now town

648
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,880
hall. 
You know, there was a old, there

649
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,560
was an old school on Midland 
Ave. that they ended up making 

650
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,080
the town hall. 
And what about? 

651
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,600
City Hall, The town hall. 
Well, well, the the town hall in

652
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,240
the area. 
You mean like a Where's City 

653
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,960
Hall? 
So, well, we're not a city here,

654
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,840
so this nearest City Hall is 
Rye. 

655
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,360
You know what I meant is that is
that what is that what you're 

656
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,200
talking about? 
Is it always been there? 

657
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640
No, but before that it was on 
Pearl Street. 

658
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,240
Before that it was right near 
the tower and then the building 

659
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,840
had a bad fire or flood or 
something happened to the 

660
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,960
building and they ended up 
having to move. 

661
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,560
Where's the police station? 
That's on North Main. 

662
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,800
Where's the courthouse? 
Also on North Main it's one and 

663
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,600
the same. 
So I'm blanking. 

664
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Yeah, it's blanking on the 
whole. 

665
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,280
North Main is, is, is is if 
you're going to Greenwich, like 

666
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,080
you know the Greenwich border 
over there that that's North 

667
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:35,800
End, right And then that's. 
Where the is there still a 

668
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,560
carvel over there? 
Like towards Carvel. 

669
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,360
Yes, yes, the carvel. 
So that's the only Carvel left 

670
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,320
in town that. 
Might be the only is that the 

671
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,320
only carvel left in there? 
It might be. 

672
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,360
If no, there's one in Mamaroneck
too. 

673
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,720
Is there really? 
I do. 

674
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,240
That's another dude. 
I'd love to go to Mamaroneck 

675
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:53,920
with all the old hat. 
You know, because they have. 

676
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,280
They were incorporated in the 
1600s. 

677
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,560
The kind of Mamaroneck said that
if they were, if they ever 

678
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,320
caught me at any other 
cemeteries or any other 

679
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,920
historical spots, that they 
would arrest me on the spot. 

680
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Mamaroneck wants. 
Mamaroneck wants nothing to do 

681
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,120
with anything paranormal. 
They straight up told me because

682
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,520
I inquired, I'm like, hey, I'd 
like to do this, I'd like to do 

683
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,240
that. 
And they straight up said, we 

684
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,760
want nothing to do with the 
paranormal. 

685
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,160
And if we see you, we will, you 
know, we'll get you arrested on 

686
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,280
spot. 
And I'm like. 

687
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,800
Wow, you know Hollywood. 
Hollywood forever turned me down

688
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,120
too. 
Your. 

689
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Day. 
Really. 

690
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,400
To go there, yeah, They don't 
want any paranormal. 

691
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,200
I mean, you can go there and 
watch a horror movie literally 

692
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,760
on a mausoleum wall, but you 
can't do paranormal stuff. 

693
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,120
It freaks them out, freaks 
people out. 

694
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,760
They do a big you can go. 
They have a big, really big day 

695
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,320
of the day dead. 
Festival, right? 

696
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,960
Yeah. 
You know, like the day of the 

697
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,400
day right before Halloween 
there, you know, and it's like 

698
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,160
vendors and music. 
It's jumping, dude. 

699
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,600
It's so fun, but you know, all 
over all, you can walk around 

700
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,920
the cemetery at night, you can 
sit there, you're walking on 

701
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,040
graves. 
But if I start trying to talk to

702
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,600
1, not a chance. 
They don't want them. 

703
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,200
If I can't film it, they. 
Don't want it right? 

704
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,920
They don't. 
Want it? 

705
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,840
I tried. 
I tried. 

706
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,040
It was bad, you know, I begged. 
But you. 

707
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,800
Know Nope, a lot of a lot of 
places are like that. 

708
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,720
They're just so like, you know, 
anti paranormal. 

709
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,720
You know, they don't they don't 
want to touch it with a 10 foot 

710
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,160
pole. 
They don't want the stigma. 

711
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,640
You know, it's like it is what 
it is. 

712
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,120
That's wild. 
At least you got Sleepy Hollow 

713
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,640
over there to do it. 
Yeah, well, that's the problem. 

714
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,120
I'll do what happened with 
Sleepy Hollow is I've been to 

715
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Sleepy Hollow in forever. 
I was going to do a whole thing 

716
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,560
with them and then they try to 
get somebody to do it instead, 

717
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560
and I guess it backfired on them
and something bad happened and 

718
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,120
then they want nothing to do 
with it. 

719
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,040
Like literally my last e-mail 
sounds so professional, So 

720
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,480
professional until my last 
e-mail to them. 

721
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560
That's when I was just like, so 
wait a minute, you're telling me

722
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:02,520
that you tried to emulate what I
do, you tried to RIP me off, you

723
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520
got fucked, and now you want 
nothing to do with anything? 

724
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,800
Sounds professional when you say
it like that. 

725
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,480
That's literally the but it's 
literally what I said to the 

726
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,960
last thing I said to them after 
they told me that and they never

727
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,200
got back to me. 
And I was like, next time I go 

728
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520
there, I'm just going to go, 
well, that and I had the whole. 

729
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,080
I don't know. 
I don't know if writing got 

730
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,080
fucked is the best professional.
I had it up to here. 

731
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,800
I was playing, I was being so 
nice. 

732
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,320
We were going back and forth. 
You know, when you realize 

733
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,760
there's no, you know, I was 
like, all right, that's it. 

734
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,480
Well, then I had the whole 
Rockefeller issue, the whole, 

735
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,560
you know, going up to the 
mausoleum and knocking on the 

736
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,640
mausoleum door. 
And then they got in contact 

737
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,480
with me and they were like, hey,
listen, thank you so much to 

738
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,720
representation of that family 
for not asking me to take the 

739
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:52,120
videos down. 
I appreciate that and I still 

740
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,120
do. 
And I will keep that word and 

741
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,160
not, you know, not go up to that
mausoleum ever again. 

742
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,640
You know, it was great, dude. 
We started talking money with 

743
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,360
one of the Rockefellers. 
That was great. 

744
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,240
I was asking for financial 
advice. 

745
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,960
All right, so we're adding 
Gettysburg to the to the, to the

746
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,640
repertoire for yes, 
documentation for yourself. 

747
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,840
That's a good ad. 
That's a good ad, a good ad on 

748
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,400
what's happening any, any 
movement with the capital. 

749
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,320
How about study in that place 
here? 

750
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,760
Capital's going to be in the 
winter. 

751
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,160
That's going to be once the 
weather starts getting cold. 

752
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,440
It's going to be one of the 
spots you know I'm going to end 

753
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,000
up doing when you know, it's 
just look ahead in the weather, 

754
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,160
hit them up, be like, hey, does 
this date work? 

755
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,440
It's going to be super cold and 
windy. 

756
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,080
It would be perfect if I'm 
inside. 

757
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,080
So that's going to be definitely
in the winter, OK, winter 

758
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,360
location, winter locale. 
Any any other any other local 

759
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,400
spots you have never hit that 
you need to hit that you want to

760
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,520
hit. 
So, high school, right? 

761
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,760
High school. 
I've I've contacted a local 

762
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,800
museum. 
There's a museum? 

763
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,280
Yeah, there's a muse. 
Locally. 

764
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,920
This is in Connecticut. 
This is in, you know, because 

765
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,720
I'm at the border of New York, 
Connecticut. 

766
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,040
Yeah. 
So I'm just. 

767
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:15,520
Like, what the Hell's an Art 
Museum? 

768
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Nah, Alok Aloka. 
Museum. 

769
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,480
What would do? 
First of all, time, what would 

770
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,160
possibly make the cut for? 
For an art town museum, 

771
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,520
probably. 
Corrupt Ledger. 

772
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,640
This is the you know. 
This is a cheeseburger that so 

773
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,320
and so dropped in the street. 
Forgot to finish eating it. 

774
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, right. 

775
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,800
What's his name? 
You know, Janis Chaplin was this

776
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,120
is a cigarette butt that she 
once used on her way through 

777
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,680
town. 
There's a heroin needle. 

778
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,160
Here's a heroin needle from so 
and so. 

779
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Here's a black and white photo 
of a crack deal gone bad. 

780
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,600
You. 
Know oh, this represents the 

781
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,760
80s. 
Here's a pair of like 

782
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,560
Cavarici's. 
Yeah, right. 

783
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,400
Here's a. 
What's it called? 

784
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,240
Here's this. 
This just came out of somebody's

785
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,280
fucking car window. 
We don't know what it is. 

786
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,280
We don't know why they threw it 
out. 

787
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,040
I mean, it could, it would art. 
I mean, it would be the worst 

788
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,480
museum ever. 
Like what kind of? 

789
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,000
Nothing. 
I don't even know what a stupid 

790
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,120
thing. 
So of course, where is it like 

791
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,160
in Greenwich? 
Is this Sir? 

792
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,040
Yeah, yeah. 
Is that, is that the music? 

793
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,440
Yeah. 
So will Greenwich let you go? 

794
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,840
Will Greenwich let you hang out 
over there? 

795
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,200
So I actually have a meeting 
with them next week. 

796
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,400
I have a meeting with their 
Historical Society. 

797
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,240
I'm going to explain what I do, 
how I do it. 

798
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,840
Show them examples, you know, 
let them know I'll play by 

799
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:52,520
their. 
Rules. 

800
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,520
As long as it doesn't. 
Affect my lives. 

801
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,800
I hope you wear sleeves. 
Yeah. 

802
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,840
Yeah. 
At this meeting. 

803
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,760
It'd be great if you got that 
tooth fixed. 

804
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,120
It's gonna. 
Help me, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, 

805
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,320
I'm gonna put a chick lay in 
there just for the, you know. 

806
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,240
Just put a chicklet in that 
fucking tooth. 

807
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,920
Yeah, just for the I'm gonna get
fangs. 

808
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,360
Dude, I decided I'm gonna, I'm 
gonna, I'm gonna knock out the 

809
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,800
other one and put, get fangs put
in. 

810
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Now I'm just fucking with you. 
Imagine either way when you're 

811
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,240
trying to, if you're trying to 
instill confidence, I think it 

812
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:21,960
would help to wear sleeves and 
have teeth. 

813
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,720
Yeah, I'm just saying yes. 
Yes. 

814
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Well, that's the thing. 
I'm not trying to distill 

815
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,160
confidence. 
I'm just, I don't need the 

816
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,480
confidence. 
I just need them to know that 

817
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,080
I'm serious, trust and I'd like 
that to be serious. 

818
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,800
So that's the biggest thing when
doing this. 

819
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,160
It has nothing to do with any of
that. 

820
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,920
It has to do with hey. 
I'll make no mistake, dude. 

821
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,400
I doubt if they want. 
I know. 

822
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,320
You know what I'm saying? 
Like it'll. 

823
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,440
Eventually it'll help. 
It'll help you, though, dude. 

824
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,280
It will when you walk in on a 
meeting and it's like, if you 

825
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,040
don't look homeless, they'll be 
like, OK, he doesn't know what 

826
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,000
he's doing. 
And it's like, yeah. 

827
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,640
And then they know that this is 
for this and. 

828
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,640
Everybody. 
My uncle thinks I look homeless.

829
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Yes, I do at times. 
At times. 

830
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,200
At times I'm a homeless looking.
Guy, if you're going to a 

831
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,480
business meeting, I mean, you 
should see this kid when he 

832
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,760
cleans up. 
It's super handsome. 

833
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,040
So I got, trust me, I got it all
taken care. 

834
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Of that's not even. 
The the number one hurdle is 

835
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,440
saying, hey, I document the 
paranormal and I'm serious about

836
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,560
this. 
That's the biggest hurdle 

837
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,720
because. 
Sure, of course. 

838
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,240
Historical societies, they're 
just like, wait, what? 

839
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,760
Like we don't believe in this. 
We want nothing to do with this.

840
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,240
Every other historical side you 
have we. 

841
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,280
Should think about a way. 
Well, look, we should figure out

842
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,600
a way to to phrase it so that 
they they understand what the 

843
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,600
lens is, right? 
I mean, yeah. 

844
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,760
There's probably better way to, 
I bring it down to them. 

845
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,600
I break 'cause they have 
questions. 

846
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,080
I break it down to them and what
not. 

847
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,640
And it's just all about, you 
know, basically it's, it's all 

848
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,360
about them understanding that 
I'm willing to follow their 

849
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,560
rules, you know, and, but I'd 
like to know what those rules 

850
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,600
are because if those rules 
affect my documentation, I then 

851
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,760
it's not, it's not going to work
out. 

852
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,240
And that's fine. 
You know, there's been places 

853
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,480
I've, I've turned down, you 
know, saying hey, we, we need 

854
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,760
this, we need that. 
What wouldn't? 

855
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,200
They let you do. 
What did I turn down? 

856
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:24,840
I turned down the Colonial house
in Lions Park because they a 

857
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,400
wanted to go the they they 
wanted to go through all of my 

858
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,320
live footage like some places 
do. 

859
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,080
Before I posted it. 
They would only give me like an 

860
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,880
hour. 
There was all and, and, and I 

861
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,640
needed somebody there with me, 
like, not even like waiting on 

862
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,000
the property, like somebody in 
the room with me. 

863
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,400
You know, I need to be 
accompanied, chauffeured, if you

864
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,880
will. 
And it's just like, I don't need

865
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,240
some stick in the mud standing 
there or starting to get 

866
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,800
involved, asking questions, you 
know, ruining the documenting. 

867
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,240
So I turned him down. 
And there's been other times 

868
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,520
over the years to other places 
where I'm like, yeah, this isn't

869
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,480
going to work out. 
So they wanted. 

870
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,880
So I mean, who would've been 
that person? 

871
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,080
I mean, you're out. 
There, That's the other problem 

872
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,920
too. 
Yeah, who's going to meet that 

873
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,960
person, like, and how annoying 
are they going to get? 

874
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,080
You know what if they hear 
something? 

875
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,320
I mean, why can't, what are they
concerned about? 

876
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,400
Isn't it like, listen, I'll put 
down, you know, do you need a 

877
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,880
security deposit or is it like, 
you know, what are they are they

878
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,040
worried about damaging? 
These places don't even these. 

879
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,880
A lot of these places don't even
care about money. 

880
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,480
They care more about their 
image. 

881
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,400
And then I just want to turn to 
him and be like, well, you're 

882
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,080
not going to really have an 
image until. 

883
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,960
What image do they think they 
have? 

884
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,080
You'd be surprised. 
When it comes to small town 

885
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,840
politics, people think they're 
little piece is like the size of

886
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,760
the Empire State Building, you 
know? 

887
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,840
And it's just like, you ain't 
shit, no one's going to know. 

888
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,200
They can't. 
They can't. 

889
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,760
They can't see it past their 
bubble for. 

890
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,840
Sure. 
Yes, yes, yeah. 

891
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,200
I get that. 
They can't. 

892
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,760
Nobody sees past their bubble 
when it comes to stuff like 

893
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,960
that. 
So I'm I'm always dealing with 

894
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,680
that and being like, hey, you 
know, it's I've listen, I've 

895
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,560
tried to throw some some money 
at places. 

896
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,320
They want nothing to do with it.
You know, they want nothing to 

897
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,240
do with it. 
I tried that. 

898
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:18,280
Could you go in? 
Could you go in and not like say

899
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,360
where you are just like the 
undisclosed location and be 

900
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,920
listen, I'm not going to tell 
people where I am. 

901
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Yeah, the I see the, the problem
is I do that with so many spots.

902
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,960
These spots that I go to, I want
them to have a name, you know, I

903
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,440
want, I want them to have a 
name. 

904
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,160
Like there's enough spots that I
go to where I'm like, oh, yeah, 

905
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,320
we're not telling you where I'm 
at. 

906
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,440
We're not telling you where I'm 
at. 

907
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,560
I'm not going to tell you where 
I'm at. 

908
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:46,360
But spots if they have a name 
and I can say that name, it's 

909
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200
just better for the it's it's 
more legit at the end of the day

910
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,280
too, you know, like this place 
I'd like. 

911
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,640
To see, I'd like to see in. 
I'd like to see in New York City

912
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,200
in some spots, yeah. 
Yeah, I've done. 

913
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:02,280
The Algonquin Hotel is wild. 
Like that was just insane. 

914
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,520
But you know, a lot of people 
didn't really understand what 

915
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,840
was going on there. 
They didn't know who the vicious

916
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,520
circle was. 
You know, they didn't understand

917
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:15,560
that like Broadway, you know, 
191019201930 like, you know, 

918
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,960
mentality like what was coming 
through there and just. 

919
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,960
It was wild. 
What do you mean people? 

920
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120
You mean the the audience? 
Yeah, the audience smoked. 

921
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,720
I mean, don't get me wrong. 
Like my core knew what it was 

922
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:29,800
about, you know, but like, 
that's not like a like a view 

923
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,840
grabber. 
Someone's going to go there and 

924
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,720
be like, oh, who gives a shit 
who, you know, the perfect, the,

925
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:38,960
the, the vicious circle is, you 
get what I'm saying? 

926
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,480
Like people, It's, it's, I loved
it. 

927
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,560
I thought it was great. 
The problem is, is that the 

928
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,080
response from the people 
compared to how much it cost to 

929
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,480
get in there. 
Dude, Henry Ford said once. 

930
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,320
Listen, don't worry about the 
people, Henry Ford. 

931
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,120
As Henry Ford said, if you ask 
the people what they want, 

932
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,440
they'd say a faster horse. 
Yes, yes, you understand what 

933
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,120
I'm saying. 
Yeah, but that's not right. 

934
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,520
Yeah, but you're missing what 
I'm saying. 

935
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,680
I am not talking about. 
I'm not talking about what I'm 

936
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,680
No, no, no, that's not what I'm 
talking about. 

937
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,960
I'm talking about, OK, for 
example, if I spend $2000 on a 

938
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,120
location and 150 people watch it
and I make $100, what does that 

939
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,480
mean? 
That's what I'm talking about. 

940
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,280
If nobody knows what I'm doing 
there and it makes absolutely 

941
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,600
nothing and I eat that, don't 
even bust even. 

942
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,000
Because that's what you hope 
for. 

943
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,520
You hope to bust even with 
things you know but. 

944
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,320
You know, yeah, right. 
It's not a big enough. 

945
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,000
Well, it's not, it's you have to
promote. 

946
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,680
It's not enough. 
It's not enough of a draw, I 

947
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,960
guess. 
Exactly. 

948
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,040
And you can't even you can never
ask the people don't disrespect 

949
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,680
us. 
You can never ask the people. 

950
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:58,360
I've asked them questions full 
knowing the answer and they've 

951
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,360
just said the wackiest stuff. 
So and and you can't, you know 

952
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,120
what I'm saying? 
Yeah, listen, I love the people,

953
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,560
but it's, it's, it's everybody. 
The individual is great, the mob

954
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,920
is not. 
You know what I mean? 

955
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,280
Oh, the mob mentality can be so 
brutal. 

956
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
It's like, so all of you got all
you fans on your own are great 

957
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,080
together you're a mess, no. 
Kidding. 

958
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:22,200
Oh man. 
Yeah, except for, except for 

959
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Brian Lamont from Pennsylvania 
that got into trouble with the 

960
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,960
group without the group. 
Brian 10 is good. 

961
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Brian 10 is good. 
But yeah, it's the the mob 

962
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,000
mentality. 
I'm teasing. 

963
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,280
I'm teasing Brian. 
Yeah, you get like, for example,

964
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,320
if you're gay, I'll give you a 
prime example where where it 

965
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,920
drives me nuts and everybody 
knows this. 

966
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,680
You get somebody comes in and 
goes, my health is just so not 

967
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,600
good today. 
And then the next person and the

968
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,800
next person and the next thing 
you know, the entire chat is so 

969
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,880
fucking depressing that anybody 
who is thinking about offing 

970
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,480
themselves is definitely going 
to now you know what I mean? 

971
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,880
That's. 
Listen, the worst Reddit's the 

972
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:00,800
worst. 
So you know what? 

973
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,560
We're on Reddit where if you're 
not following or joining our 

974
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,800
community on Reddit for 
splintered spirits, please do 

975
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,120
because it's a great, it's fun 
to sort of have those 

976
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,920
conversations, right? 
And I put on there, I joined the

977
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,600
past lives subreddit because of 
all the past life stuff we did 

978
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,760
last week and I wanted to post 
and promote and I wrote down a 

979
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,720
question, right? 
So I didn't start by dropping a 

980
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:23,960
link because a lot of these mods
on those things you want to talk

981
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,640
about tough mods like they 
don't, they don't. 

982
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:31,040
They just I've been banned from 
2 subreddits, but at least 2. 

983
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,040
So anyway, I I pose a question 
like, hey, I'm curious what 

984
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,880
these audience thinks of the 
Akashic records. 

985
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,680
Do you think it looks like a 
library? 

986
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,120
Do you think it looks like a 
giant book with all your 

987
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,160
secrets? 
Or does it look like the TVG? 

988
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,920
You know, the TVA from Marvel, 
you know, the Marvel Universe 

989
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,040
and somebody write and people 
were responding, right? 

990
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Like, I think I know, I've, I've
done this. 

991
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,760
I think it looks like a library.
Oh, when I did it, I saw 

992
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,240
scrolls. 
Oh, I saw it like this. 

993
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,320
And then someone wrote, someone 
wrote, well, we can't even prove

994
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,920
this exists. 
And like, I had to take a minute

995
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,400
and I did respond because I, you
know, look, I'm going to 

996
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,040
respond. 
And I said, hey, listen, man, 

997
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:16,680
you know, we're talking about 
fringe science and things 

998
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,200
paranormal. 
So no one can prove anything 

999
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,400
that exists. 
So saying that is so wildly 

1000
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,600
unhelpful to the conversation. 
I said I want to. 

1001
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:32,120
I am. 
I am writing in the past lives 

1002
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:37,120
subreddit, asking the community 
of the past lives subreddit what

1003
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,200
they think of this. 
And I and I care about what they

1004
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:48,280
think of this for you to write 
that is, is so ridiculous and 

1005
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,680
it's just unhelpful. 
And I said, let me, and for 

1006
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:55,480
lastly, let me say this, being 
contrarian is not a sign of 

1007
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,120
intelligence. 
So have a good day, right? 

1008
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,200
And it's just, you know, people 
just have to be difficult and 

1009
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,880
say different things just to go 
make themselves feel smart. 

1010
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,040
But anyway, it's, it's, it's 
that whole thing, right? 

1011
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,480
You're just sitting there 
listening to people and they 

1012
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,960
have to jump in and they have to
chime in. 

1013
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,040
And in a way that is, dude, what
are you doing here? 

1014
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,240
It's like, listen, guys, you're 
you're watching a live right now

1015
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:26,440
called Splintered Spirits with 
two Dicks talking about ghosts. 

1016
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,400
If you come in here and start 
saying ghosts aren't real. 

1017
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,320
That's my favorite. 
Ghosts aren't the it's like, 

1018
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,320
what are you doing with 
yourself? 

1019
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:37,200
Like, you know, like what? 
Go somewhere. 

1020
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,840
Like why? 
Are you really that lonely? 

1021
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,360
One of my favorite things to do 
when when these people come in 

1022
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,400
and say they say ghost don't 
exist is a great, that's a great

1023
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,200
way to end it, right? 
When somebody comes into the 

1024
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,240
chat now and says spirits don't 
exist, I literally turn to him 

1025
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,600
and say, hey, you know what? 
You might be right, but I was 

1026
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,920
laying with your mother last 
night and we were talking about 

1027
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,080
it too. 
And they get they, we, we had a,

1028
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,720
we had another troll come in 
that said something that got me 

1029
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:07,520
like not pissed, but made me go,
oh shit. 

1030
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,720
Like the way they worded 
something, they worded it as if 

1031
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,640
they were on an agenda against 
like people like myself, you 

1032
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,920
know what I mean? 
Like they grouped me in with a 

1033
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,880
group of people and I'm like, 
yo, how many people do you go 

1034
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,440
and harass a night because you 
disagree with what they're 

1035
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,280
doing? 
Sure, you get what I'm saying. 

1036
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,640
Like that is so unhealthy 
mentally. 

1037
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,200
I was like, I feel bad for you, 
you know, but you know, your, 

1038
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,440
your brain is shot. 
Your brain is shot. 

1039
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,760
It's it's it is really something
else. 

1040
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,840
All right, man, It's what are we
talking about? 

1041
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,440
It's what harm is any of this 
cause anybody? 

1042
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,440
It's so absurd to me. 
So yeah, it's like, you know, we

1043
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,080
don't mean to group all of you 
fans in with that, but you know,

1044
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,080
sometimes it happens. 
Sometimes it happens. 

1045
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,160
You get a bad hava, but we love 
you all. 

1046
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,480
We just don't love you all 
together. 

1047
00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,280
Yeah. 
Yep. 

1048
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,280
Yep, Yep. 
I love you all together. 

1049
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,040
Yep. 
Sorry, sorry, I'm kidding. 

1050
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,200
I joke. 
I joke. 

1051
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,160
I don't. 
I don't. 

1052
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,320
Well, John, look, we hit, we hit
an hour here. 

1053
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,520
I know we got other things to 
do. 

1054
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,640
Guys, as a reminder, please, if 
you're new or you're listening, 

1055
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,840
if you're watching here on 
Facebook, be sure to like, share

1056
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,000
and subscribe to Splinter 
Spirits wherever you get your 

1057
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,960
podcasts, especially on YouTube 
and Spotify. 

1058
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,000
We have an author medium, a 
clairaudient. 

1059
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,160
She actually, you know, she 
experiences spirit by hearing 

1060
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,480
it. 
Her name is Joni Mahan, who's 

1061
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,480
going to be the interview for 
next Tuesday's drop. 

1062
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,920
And again, if you missed the 
beginning of this episode where 

1063
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,440
I talk about it, her whole 
experience with ghost 

1064
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,680
communication is not a fun one. 
She ain't laughing like we're 

1065
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,120
laughing. 
She's it is it is a it is a 

1066
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,280
curse and a scary life that she 
leads and it's in in for her, 

1067
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,360
which I find interesting because
it's not. 

1068
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,640
We have never we've never spoken
to somebody like that who really

1069
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,960
sort of has AI don't know. 
It's like she I asked like, why 

1070
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,520
do you kill? 
Why do you still do this man? 

1071
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,000
Like why are you still doing it?
And there isn't like a sort of a

1072
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,040
morbid attraction to it for her.
You know, she as she's trying to

1073
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,960
she has she has to balance her 
life with it. 

1074
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,640
She has no choice other than to 
balance her life around it and 

1075
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,240
keep doing it until she gets 
better at it. 

1076
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,680
But it's anyway, it's a really 
interesting one. 

1077
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,160
That'll be Tuesday's drop and we
are going to be re releasing. 

1078
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaking of the fireplace room, 
that was episode 8. 

1079
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,840
You know, we just re released 
episode 2. 

1080
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,280
Episode 8 We have like that's 
almost two hours long. 

1081
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,880
So that'll be less edited with 
video. 

1082
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,560
That'll be a great one. 
We'll. 

1083
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,400
Be. 
Is that the one? 

1084
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,760
With Kathy. 
Flying down in here and. 

1085
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,240
That's what that's in the 
planchet. 

1086
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,960
That's when Kathy's in there 
with you and the planchet. 

1087
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,760
So I'm going through that right 
now to get that one ready for a 

1088
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,040
re drop. 
And you know, look, a lot more 

1089
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,800
to come. 
A lot of a lot of great guests 

1090
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,200
coming through October. 
And we thank you guys for 

1091
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,120
listening. 
You helped this guy. 

1092
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,040
You helped us hit that first 
1000 mark and we appreciate it. 

1093
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,560
Thank you so much for that. 
Really. 

1094
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,520
You guys rock. 
You all right? 

1095
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,640
Awesome, awesome. 
All right, folks. 

1096
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,040
That's it for today. 
Glad you can see you all. 

1097
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,160
Thank you so much for coming, 
John. 

1098
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,880
It's good to talk to you. 
I will talk to you later. 

1099
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,960
You got it. 
All right, my man, let me call 

1100
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,600
day everyone. 
Peace out. 

1101
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:30,920
Have a good, long,
