All right, let's just give me two minutes.
How you been? What's been going on in the
world of paranormal? You know, the usual, the usual,
talk to the spirits. It's about it.
You know, we had a lot of activity at the tower the other
night for the bonus. I ended up going on about 3:34
in the morning. It just started getting crazy
what happened there and just voices.
You can hear voices upstairs on the 3rd floor, people walking,
you know, just all sorts of slamming doors, all sorts of
wild stuff. And the spirit shatter was just
on point. They were just talking about
everything. I was talking and responding and
it was just, you could tell whatever was going on, it was,
we were tuned in. So it was pretty wild other than
that, you know, crazy, crazy things happening at cemeteries.
Been a lot of people calling the cops.
We were at Letchworth the other night.
We had someone call the cops a bunch of times trying to get us
kicked out of there. After the final time.
They were like, yeah, you guys got to go.
They people keep calling. Yeah, you mentioned that.
That's weird. Yeah, yeah.
It's just haters, you know, part of the gig.
That's why I keep telling people I can't go in those buildings.
You know, if I go in those buildings, I'm going to get
arrested. You know, it's not like I'm, I'm
not a small fry that can just, you know, hop out, live and go
in those buildings and no one's got to worry about them calling
the cops. You know, people will take any
opportunity to bring me down, but that's just the way it is.
All right, well, Tik Tok's not TikTok is not working today
guys, so it's not responding TikTok studio so.
Yeah, they're, they're, they're having a lot of issues.
So it's been. Stop that.
It's. Almost like they're changing
servers. You know, maybe.
You know, it's almost like they're changing servers.
I wonder if I'm getting the reverb from the OBS trying to
play it maybe? Then how do I not hear?
I don't want to hear this Check check.
Can you hear me if I do talk like this?
Yeah. Oh yeah, I hear you just fine.
So weird man. Yeah.
We'll have to figure this out some other time, but it's
distracting me and I might have to just stop it and let it go
where we normally go so we can get into the business of
splintered spirits. Yes, yes, we have an episode for
them. Yeah, man.
Listen, sorry for the delay here, guys.
Unless I'm trying to figure things out, I'm going to.
You know what's? Well, this is crazy.
Now check. Check.
Let me ask you something. It's.
Clearly an OBS issue when I. See on my screen right they can
see correct. Like, no, they're looking at it.
It's however YouTube looks at it.
You know, in like the main, the main screen, they can't see the
side chat or the full or maybe you know, no, they can see their
own chat on YouTube. You know what I mean?
Well, so I was wondering they're probably scanning this room
right now because they probably never seen both the mirrors are
at the same time in the in the wide shot.
Oh, that's possible, yeah. Yeah, maybe you guys can find
and see how small this place is. Yeah, everyone thinks it's big.
It's not. So very small.
So yes, look, welcome. Sorry for the delay guys.
I know there's not a lot of you. And maybe because of all the
noise and the distractions, we're trying some new stuff and
always trying to get technically savvy when we're trying to
figure it out, but it doesn't work.
So welcome to Splintered Spirits podcast hosted by yours truly
Gary and my nephew John Santa from Santa Paranormal.
John, welcome to Splintered Spirits on this Thursday.
We had a hell of a week on social media that is for sure.
I don't know if you guys are following us, but man, we just
blew up. Both Santa Paranormal and
Splintered Spirits blew up on Instagram in the past week.
I I think I, I went from 200 followers to almost 20.
I think I have almost as many followers on instead as I do on
TikTok now. And you are at you jumped from
22 grand to over 100 grand in like 36 hours.
Yeah, dude, it's I think, I think, I think it right now it's
like AA155156K something like that might even be more that is.
Insane I haven't even checked, which is wild.
We just had a hell of a a blow up.
So thank you for that guys you know keep sharing, keep liking,
keep subscribing tell a friend it's really interesting and I'm
looking at it. You know and it's I like
Instagram, so I got to make it. I want to make the lives work
over there. I got to figure out now why I'm
getting that kind of reverb into into everything, which I'll Dick
around with and test, but what's what is what I'm starting to
notice about TikTok, and I'm going to say it since we're not
on there today. It's like you TikTok doesn't
work for you. You work for TikTok, yes, and
everything is designed to for you to be secretly promoted.
Not even it's not Even so secret.
It's just to make you think you're doing it for yourself,
but you're really doing it for them.
And if you don't, and if you don't do it for them, you don't
get pushed, you don't get the things.
It's not it's all about them, which is very because of China.
And it's like, you know, so that's and it feels very much
that way, you know, and it got to help the IT.
Is it really it? It it's all, it is all about
them. And I've, and I've been saying
it for years with them too, it's about how you look.
They want a certain look, they want a certain type of way you
speak, they want certain visuals.
It is all about what they want, not whatever you want.
Dude, it's all it's even beyond like how you look and but it's,
it's just sort I, I pull up the TikTok studio just now, which
didn't work and we kept quitting and it and it starts off like,
don't forget you set your goals. Oh, you should be saying this.
Hey, should you tell anybody about any place other than
TikTok? It's like, you know, it's so
weird. It's so weird.
So I'm hoping I want to make you.
I would love to make YouTube and sort of Instagram the homes for
at least splintered spirits and to be and Spotify and everywhere
that podcasts are and just not worry about that nonsense.
You know, it's, it's funny, I actually literally would not
last night, 'cause last night I was, I was done the night before
I was on, I was on the phone with Netzel and he said he said
what I always said and, and that we regret building everything on
TikTok and not other platforms because I didn't start with
YouTube or anything until the blackout until we went dark for
a bit. And then I'm like, you know
what, just in case, you know, we and we were saying it and, and
it's so true. And I, and if I feel that way,
he feels that way, I can imagine how other creators that are
solely on TikTok feel. Well, the the thing about the,
the the thing about TikTok is honestly it is when it comes to
being a live creator like you are, the user interface couldn't
be easier. It is.
It's a cut above it's a. Cut above.
Definitely it's a great for for a user.
It is an absolutely wonderful platform for just an observer,
for someone who absorbs and consumes content, it's
fantastic. But for and for a creator, for a
live creator, it's never it's you're you're literally can
broadcast to the world in in a push of a button and it's
simple. It it doesn't get easier for
Instagram. I can't even find myself when
I'm live. If you try to find a live on
there, it's really hard. I think, you know, it's really
difficult. Yeah, it YouTube.
Really hard YouTube is. Is getting better but the shorts
is it's not a place for shorts really yet.
No and and and with the lives they have a lot to work on
because you a little a little drop it.
Signal will make it go crazy. You can't see the chat.
They did that on purpose. They want you to send super
chats, you know, but they did it on purpose.
However, you know, they should also think about maybe making
when somebody you know signs up as a member on there, which is
the equivalent of subscriptions on TikTok.
You think they would make the members a little bigger in the
chat so you can see them too, but it it's YouTube's got a long
way. They're getting there streaming
wise, but they got a long way to go before it's anything that can
compete with TikTok and that's the there's nothing that
competes with TikTok. I'm sure right now in the chat
someone's like favored rainbow hit say no, no, you could say
all you want. If you actually look at the
numbers, there is nothing that competes with TikTok when it
comes to going live yeah thing there's nothing even in the
ballpark. YouTube's getting close, but
it's nowhere near close enough, you know, So it's, it definitely
has a stranglehold on creators, you know, and but you know what
we have to do. I can't even say YouTube.
I'm on TikTok. I know that's the thing, right?
You can't even say. Certain things you will get and
and and and their AI that's scanning through everything will
it will jump on you real easy and say you know your life is
suppressed because you're promoting going off platform or
like some like you garbage like that.
It's nuts. Yeah, it's nuts.
Well, look, we're not having that problem today because we're
going on. We're on YouTube.
We're actually on YouTube and Facebook today and and guess
what now if you feel like it guys, you feel free to super
chat splintered spirits. You can do it.
You can be a be a hero. We we like it.
We like money at splintered spirits too.
To keep this keep this thing going helps us get better
guests, helps us get better equipment.
Not that we pay our guests don't.
I don't mean it like that, but it helps us find the time and
the outreach to help us pursue better guests.
All of that research is is heavy and it takes and consider people
don't get back to you right away, folks.
Speaking of guests, you know our last guest was Myra Wrath from
with about past life regression. And then we had Heidi Kemper,
who was absolutely fun. How fun was that man?
She was a trip and that was our last live.
You can catch both of those out on YouTube and Spotify next
week. This week we dropped an old one.
Dude, Can you believe we shot that a year?
We recorded that a year ago. So crazy at the cemetery.
That's when you first talked about Edward, which is going to
be a good Segway into what we're going to do today.
And then this is a reminder. Next week, we have author Joni
Mahan and I interviewed Joni Mahan where she wrote, she's
wrote a bunch of books. She was a friend of Sam, another
author, psychic medium who we had on and Joni's story, it
isn't as fun as a lot of the others man.
She's considers just like the her ability to communicate with
spirits has been more of a curse in her life.
And it's a little creepy and it's really it's almost like
someone dealing and managing a curse.
And that's so it's a real different take in a similar idea
of what spirits are and how people communicate with spirits,
which is what this whole podcast is about.
So that's going to be Tuesday. Take a listen.
But anyway, back to Edward. The fireplace room.
This space is kind of where a lot of it started.
Yeah, John. Yeah, this is so I always say
this is the third spot that I ever streamed from, you know,
the 1st 2 still being on this property, but this is the third
spot that I ever streamed from and ended up becoming the main
focal point of my documentation for about a year, about a year,
maybe even more. We, we sat in here.
I mean, we sat I've done consecutive sessions, you know,
in this, in in this fireplace room and you know the places
guys, shit ton of history. Might as well talk about that
for a minute. If you guys were to take a look
at back here, you will see a fireplace.
Now this fireplace looks a little strange.
Why? Cuz it's been repaired.
In the 1700s it was all fieldstone but by the time the
British destroyed this place and Edward came in and built his
home on the foundation, he had some repairs to do.
Hence the brick. So this place goes all if you if
you're unsure about the fireplace or don't know exactly,
this does go back to the 1700s. In the 1800s, I have no idea
what Edward used this for. I have no idea, but I get.
What do you think? What do you think he used it
for? Oh, I think he, he did a whole
lot of horrible things in here. I've had spirits describe
getting lined up by the fireplace and, you know, just
sacrifice and all sorts of crazy shit.
The floor is hollow over here. There's a whole undercroft to
this place that you know, I don't even think I can get into.
There's a whole sub basement here that who knows how deep and
where it goes. I know.
You haven't tried to figure that one.
You haven't tried to figure that out yet.
Dude, let me tell you something. The last thing I do if I ever do
leave here is I'm literally taking a sledgehammer to the
fireplace because that's a collapsed tunnel.
I've removed the brick and I sent a camera in there, like a
plumber's camera or a contractor's camera I set.
One and what'd you see? Oh, it's a collapsed tunnel.
You could just see all the debris, but you could see like
spider webs and like shit moving like out of a movie.
Really. Yeah.
It looked like there was a couple coins too, but I couldn't
really tell. I don't know if they were just
pieces of metal or like, yeah, there's there's there's stuff
going on back there. So I've removed 1 brick just to
get get an idea. You could feel air coming from
it, which is wild because we're underground right now, you know,
like this is like, in fact right here, like literally right where
I'm at back to the fireplace is all the front steps of the
building. So going towards the street, So
so. That's the wall.
That's the wall of the street. OK, Matt.
Matt. So we're going to show some fun
stuff, I think to the people today about some of the
classics, some of the classic things where what was the first
weird thing you saw in there? Like what was the OR the first?
Let's, let's, let's, since we're thinking about what we're going
to show today, the first physical manifestation outside
of the audio. OK, so the, the, the first thing
that I ever saw, it was actually when I was doing my eBay store
and I saw a figure, if you will, your classic like shadowed
figure, you know, and I saw it from the corner of my eye and
I'm like, oh, maybe it's just a dust in here, you know,
peripheral vision. And then I ended up seeing it
again. And then I'm like, OK, no,
there's definitely something down here.
So that was like the first. But I just went about my
business, you know, I didn't, you know, do anything different
or get scared or anything like that.
So yeah, I was like the first. And then when I was running my
eBay store, I'd have some things move, things would be messed
with. I'm like, OK, I know there's no
way that fell on its own, you know, that was secure.
That was placed neatly, like, you know, so I've had stuff like
that happening and that was all before.
And that was all, you know, that and and and this whole room was
was abandoned. This was like horrible, like the
way the abandoned side looks so filled with, you know, cobwebs
and dust and just, you know, grime and filth.
And this original wall was painted.
It was it was originally white and all the paint was flayed
gigs. So I ended up cleaning all this
up. I restored all this and brought
this back to its original original look so.
That's cool, yeah. Yeah, originally, so now.
You got a lot of candles that have fallen back there.
I've had candles fall, I've had handles explode and I don't even
remember happening. Like people say.
No, this happened on live and then I had like live guests that
would be down here when it would happen and they'd have to remind
me. No job.
Remember the time that candle exploded?
Remember that time that candle got thrown off the.
And I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, You know, 'cause things
that things happen on and off camera too, you know, on and off
live. So.
But yeah, we've had candles fly off multiple times, you know?
Let's take a look at this one. Let's take a look at this
classic 'cause I I like this video because they warned you
first. Yes, they gave you a quick
warning that they were going to break something.
Let's check this out guys. Break it snippy 2 player for
real. Spooky toes shit that scared the
fucking shit out of me. Holy fuck, and a cat ball is
going off over here. Spooky.
Thank you for fingering my heart a notch.
What the fuck? Oh wait.
That's crazy.
First of all, look at, look at you.
Look at that hairdo. Yeah.
Oh yeah, those. Are great.
That had to be. That had to be 2022.
It looks like by the 2022 maybe the beginning of 2023.
So that that wasn't the 1st, that wasn't the first candle
fall and and you still, you certainly feel like that's worth
like, you know, Hey, this is just something that they do
here. Yes, yeah.
Oh, yeah, definitely. Sometimes you would catch me off
guard, like in that video, you know, you're not, you know?
And then other times I used to be, when I used to try to keep
this place like immaculately clean because I used to try to
keep this place like as clean as possible, I used to get pissed
because the wax would go all over the place.
So there's other videos of me just getting so angry that they
knocked one over because wax would go all over the place.
Well, I think I got one of those.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you get real upset.
Yeah, because it's usually right after I got done cleaning.
Yeah, I cleaned up and it went live, and then all of a sudden
one falls and wax goes all over and it's like, come on.
Wait, I wonder if it's this one. Sure.
Let me share. Let me show everybody this one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see.
I think it's this. I think fell apart.
Original to the 18 hundredth build.
Let's see 1860 Build Original to the 1800s bill so that 160 bill
with this place finish bill. So that window just completely
we fucking go spirits, here we fucking go.
Are we really starting this? You literally just took out
three candles in one shot. No, you're not doing it again.
Literally just took out not do it again spirits in one shot
again. No, you're not doing it again.
Do it again. Do not do it again, spirits.
Wax goes everywhere. It's such a pain in the ass.
Do it again, please. Please.
Wax goes everywhere. It's such a pain in the ass to
clean. Who is that?
Sam? Zach, are you knocking down
candles again? Who is that?
Zach. Zach, are you knocking down
candles again? Even any boy doesn't do this.
No.
It was made ten. It was you.
Excuse me, Spirit, who are you?
Why did you knock down my candles using this?
Why you're using Spirit? Who are you?
Why did you knock down my candles?
Oh, you're going to start start takes with Judy.
Oh, know why I'm start takes with Judy?
You know why I'm here? Anyway, that's a great like.
Yeah, that's this classic back in the day fireplace room, you
know. Now who?
Is Zach. So Zach is definitely a spirit
that well, I don't know if he's still around, but he used to
like to knock over candles. Like he admitted that it was him
doing it. We have no idea.
I couldn't find anybody who named Zach who lived here in the
building. So I don't know if it was maybe
a hospital spirit or someone from before, but you know, he
called himself Zach and that's all we really do it.
Oh, and his mother, Teresa to get with his mother.
It all started with him when we saw a woman in the mirror and it
was his mother. He claimed it was his mother and
he was upset that his mother was stuck in the mirror.
And I actually have a video on my YouTube going all the way
back to, I think, to 2021 or 2022 about that.
It was a private session. It's called Mother in the
Mirror. It's actually.
Yeah. So it's a wild one.
They're knocking over candles and.
It was all. That's weird.
I've never. Yeah, I haven't heard about
Zach. Yeah.
And then and then what?
When did when did that for you stop coming through?
Oh well, I would have to say probably.
Maybe 2023, this place really started to change.
Like we, we, everything changed about it.
We would hear spirits like I'm say, I'm new here or, you know,
spirits wondering where they are.
And it was like, wait a minute, like you don't know where you
are. You are, you're trapped here.
And then we just noticed, like a lot of the other spirits that
would always come through stop coming through, and we're
getting new ones. John, is there any rhyme or
reason to the length of time a spirit sticks around or
communicates with you? No, no, I have.
I have no, I have no idea. Like no idea.
Like that's like even like looking at all the data, like I
still like what makes, for example, what made so getting
into Edward, what make Edwards stay here for so long and then
all of a sudden now he's gone. What made Joseph Churchwell come
through for so long the way he did?
And then he left and then he came back and now he's not the
same. Like he doesn't speak the same
way. He's not as strong.
Like what governs it? I don't know if it's one thing
if it's multiple different factors.
If I didn't take a guess, I'd say multiple different factors.
It could be all sorts of reasons why things happen.
I don't think it's one particular thing, but As for
what those reasons are, I have no idea.
I have a question. What about, OK, what was the
longest span of time since your discovery of Edward to when you
were not in the fireplace room? Meaning, All right, you know,
you go down there. Were you going down there every
night? Every other night.
Every night a week, every night you're.
Going down there every night and you had Edward there and then
you started to slow down a bit and then what was the longest
stretch when you were when Edward was a regular that you
would not be in the fireplace room?
Or in that area months. Months.
So you've been, you've been gone.
You've you've not been in the fireplace room for months.
Months. And then, and then he's and then
he's still been here. Yes, yes.
Now, after that ban you had, you took some time off from there.
Yeah, yes, yeah, No, no. Was that when you say you were
off for months, was that does that mean you never went in
there, you just never streamed from there?
No, I'd come in here still for various things, but I wouldn't
spend, but I wouldn't spend any more than like 5 minutes in
here. You.
Know and when you were banned, did you still go in there?
No, I can't remember. I don't think so.
After that last ban. Yeah, yeah, I don't think so.
I think I was like, yeah, I'm I'm done.
It was pretty anti displaced after that.
Well, I'm just, I mean, look, I'm just here I am.
I'm talking, let's talk a little bit about energy and the need
for energy. Is there a possible connection
that your absence for an extended period of time after
that ban caused his need or his this spirit's energy or ability
to to be fed is that could that be?
I mean, listen, anything's possible, right?
Anything's possible in this probable.
Seeing the fact that I have left before and have come back and
he's been here. I don't know, like I don't know
if it has to do with me. But here's the other thing too.
I've since realizing that Edward isn't here.
I've done 3 streams in here and nothing still and I'm going to
do 1 tonight in here. This is we're doing the
fireplace room tonight, you know, leading it late, you know,
leading from this. Do you like it?
Does it? Does the overall vibe of the
place feel better or does it no no.
But the vibe doesn't feel better.
It's just great. That's weird.
It's just great not listening to Edward, you know, talk shit.
Well, why do you? Well, he was probably a major
force for a negative vibe. So why do you think there's
still a bad vibe in there? Because it's just this place,
you know, Edward was more. It wasn't just the only stain,
if you will. You know, the Spanish flu, the
experimental hospital, everything that happened before
when this was an outpost, which we have very little history on,
you know? Yeah.
All right, well, that's interesting, dude.
So then, so we had, but you don't think Edward was the one
knocking things over? You think there were other
spirits knocked things over? I think, I think there were
definitely other spirits knocking things over, but I
wouldn't put it past Edward if he had his hand in that or was
knocking things over as well. Now, John, tell us why you don't
think that it was just, you know, heat and melted wax that
knocked those candles over. So the very, very simple fact is
some of them, and I think I don't know if you, if you have
all the videos, there's even one video where I even straight up
say, hey guys, I melted the bottom of the candle and stuck
it down so it won't get knocked over.
And then all the sudden one of the spirits just knock it right
over. And I'm just like, you know,
like, come on. Really.
So I do pretty well to make sure they are balanced, to make sure
they're not going to tip over. I put them right in the sweet
spots, if you will, you know, so they don't go flying off.
And yeah. And most of the time, most of
the time when they do fall over, if there are a little uneven
wax, they'll actually fall over rather than forward because of
the way the the fireplace is pitched.
All right, well, tell me then, what the hell knocked this thing
over? Look at this.
Look at this young man. Look at this young man.
With the cat balls shit, are you OK going?
Well, they didn't like that very much.
That's for God damn sure. Look at your name.
They. Did not like that very.
Much 24 Why am I here close. All right, so a couple things
real quick and some of you might be might be confused about this
video. First off, that wasn't a
disembodied voice you heard say shit, OK, Because I know you can
hear that. That was my friend Laura.
You guys know I have my driver, Matt.
That's her boyfriend, right? So my and she's my friend.
And so she was there with me that night when those fell over.
And I'm so happy that she didn't get freaked out and run out
screaming. She waited to see what my
reaction was before she, you know, so she, so I had AI had a,
an actual human being in there that night with me when those
fell over, right. The second thing is it looks
like a different interface because it is, it's not TikTok.
That was on Clapper. That was one of the times I was
banned because remember, I used to get banned on TikTok all the
time and I had to go on Clapper to do the session because I
wasn't allowed on TikTok. And yeah, yeah, it was under
Wesley Manor, not, you know, Santa Paranormal.
So that's how far back that video goes.
The CCP does not like your actions, youngster.
The chairman. The chairman does not approve.
Nope. Nope.
They thought I was going to be a Venturian candidate, you know,
but. Oh my.
God, they're trying to snuff me out real quick.
But yeah, so now in that video, let's talk about in the video,
you hear the same voice, right? The apps, the same voice.
Believe it or not, that was Ghost Tube original before they
upgraded and they had a dynamic setting.
So every spirit sounded the same, kind of like the way
necrometer does it, right? Every spirit sounded the same.
So that's why it was that same continuous voice.
And that mirror that fell ended up taking out two other mirrors,
including the one from the goat man video, which I think you
spoke about. And that goat man that that goat
man in that mirror used to catch so many different spirits in it.
And the spirits just took it right out in one shot.
So yeah, let me show you, let me show everybody this Goat man
video that you sent me. I think this is the one.
So they get a look at it. What we're talking about here,
not to be confused with Spoon Man, this is.
Spoon man? Hell yeah, look at that.
And I missed that mirror. Show it one more time for
everybody. Oh yeah, that video goes into
the multiverse, by the way. What does that mean?
That entity claimed to be me from another universe.
This that. Wait a minute.
What is it? What are you?
What are you highlighting here? This pink thing or this hood?
We I don't know what the pink thing is.
If you look at the, it almost looks like it's eating or
breathing it out. If you look at the hood and you
look at the figure, if you look in the face, you see a skull.
Yes, it looks like a skull here. Looks.
Like a skull. Now that entity claimed to be me
from another universe back in the day, so go figure.
It's like an evil version of me. Do you see the face?
Looks like it's called void empty, right?
And then the goat man, though when we're just we just go back
to the goat man. So let's go back to the So these
two little brightly, see these two little dots on the top.
Is that the? Is that a?
Is that the eyes? Supposed to be the eyes.
Yep, and you can see the horns above that.
Now the goat man is an entity that is many people have seen
it. So I don't think it's that
particular entity is actually the goat man.
I just think it's an entity that personifies itself as that, if
that makes any sense. Because multiple people have
seen goat men before. So I don't think this is the
same goat man seen in other locations.
I think this is a particular entity that was here or is still
here. Who knows.
That was years ago. Got it.
Can you guys see my cursor on here so you can see what I'm
pointing at? I think you can.
So these two little dots are eyes.
I think this is what he's referring to as orange right
here, right? Yep, Yep, and.
Then it's like legs down here. It's like this is a goat man
Goat man. So, and, and you know, those
who've been following for a while know there's tons of other
things that have been caught in the, in these mirrors in the
past. So you know the the.
And now that mirror, that mirror, I guess we went out of
order, like we we were not linear here.
That mirror is then something that that died destroyed when
that thing fell over. Yeah, when that other mirror
fell over, that mirror got to including the original door
mirror. You see this mirror I have here?
This is a door from the 1930 build.
But when this place became an apartment building, they swapped
out all the doors for these door mirrors.
In the 30s, I had another one that the spirits ended up
destroying. In that video it takes out all
three of the mirrors, the one that fell, the one that the goat
man was caught in, and then the original door mirror.
That is, it's a lot of bad luck. Yeah, yeah, I don't feel it.
That level somebody that exactly I didn't.
Break any of them you know, It's not like.
Right. That's what I mean exactly.
You didn't. Technically, you did not break
any of those. Mirrors.
And they would threaten to destroy these mirrors all the
time. You know, I got the videos of
them shaking them, trying to move them, all sorts of things.
You know, it's just something that they were threatening for a
while and finally did. What is the future of the of the
fireplace room holds here John? You know, that's a great
question. I don't know.
I'm still trying to figure that out.
I mean, listen strategically. Strategically, I would want
multiple places in the winter for when the weather's bad,
right? And this place, still to any
anybody doing the paranormal is a gold mine, right?
You're going to, you're streaming here enough, you're
going to catch something. Something is going to happen.
Something is going to pop off. So, you know, I don't want to
get rid of this place, but I definitely don't want to be
stuck here. So I'm going to try to have,
well, the business is going to try to hold on to it as long as
we can, you know, and if I can't, you know, if I got to
start trimming the fat, you bet, you best bet this place is gone.
You know what I mean? I'd rather get rid of this place
than the tower just because I I don't like this place.
Do you think that's the most haunted place in town?
Oh, that's a great question. That is a great question.
In the 2 1/2 square miles. Yes, yes, hands down.
I do. I think it's it's a toss up
between this place. It's a toss up between the
factory and maybe maybe the old Horton School, which is now town
hall. You know, there was a old, there
was an old school on Midland Ave. that they ended up making
the town hall. And what about?
City Hall, The town hall. Well, well, the the town hall in
the area. You mean like a Where's City
Hall? So, well, we're not a city here,
so this nearest City Hall is Rye.
You know what I meant is that is that what is that what you're
talking about? Is it always been there?
No, but before that it was on Pearl Street.
Before that it was right near the tower and then the building
had a bad fire or flood or something happened to the
building and they ended up having to move.
Where's the police station? That's on North Main.
Where's the courthouse? Also on North Main it's one and
the same. So I'm blanking.
Yeah, it's blanking on the whole.
North Main is, is, is is if you're going to Greenwich, like
you know the Greenwich border over there that that's North
End, right And then that's. Where the is there still a
carvel over there? Like towards Carvel.
Yes, yes, the carvel. So that's the only Carvel left
in town that. Might be the only is that the
only carvel left in there? It might be.
If no, there's one in Mamaroneck too.
Is there really? I do.
That's another dude. I'd love to go to Mamaroneck
with all the old hat. You know, because they have.
They were incorporated in the 1600s.
The kind of Mamaroneck said that if they were, if they ever
caught me at any other cemeteries or any other
historical spots, that they would arrest me on the spot.
Mamaroneck wants. Mamaroneck wants nothing to do
with anything paranormal. They straight up told me because
I inquired, I'm like, hey, I'd like to do this, I'd like to do
that. And they straight up said, we
want nothing to do with the paranormal.
And if we see you, we will, you know, we'll get you arrested on
spot. And I'm like.
Wow, you know Hollywood. Hollywood forever turned me down
too. Your.
Day. Really.
To go there, yeah, They don't want any paranormal.
I mean, you can go there and watch a horror movie literally
on a mausoleum wall, but you can't do paranormal stuff.
It freaks them out, freaks people out.
They do a big you can go. They have a big, really big day
of the day dead. Festival, right?
Yeah. You know, like the day of the
day right before Halloween there, you know, and it's like
vendors and music. It's jumping, dude.
It's so fun, but you know, all over all, you can walk around
the cemetery at night, you can sit there, you're walking on
graves. But if I start trying to talk to
1, not a chance. They don't want them.
If I can't film it, they. Don't want it right?
They don't. Want it?
I tried. I tried.
It was bad, you know, I begged. But you.
Know Nope, a lot of a lot of places are like that.
They're just so like, you know, anti paranormal.
You know, they don't they don't want to touch it with a 10 foot
pole. They don't want the stigma.
You know, it's like it is what it is.
That's wild. At least you got Sleepy Hollow
over there to do it. Yeah, well, that's the problem.
I'll do what happened with Sleepy Hollow is I've been to
Sleepy Hollow in forever. I was going to do a whole thing
with them and then they try to get somebody to do it instead,
and I guess it backfired on them and something bad happened and
then they want nothing to do with it.
Like literally my last e-mail sounds so professional, So
professional until my last e-mail to them.
That's when I was just like, so wait a minute, you're telling me
that you tried to emulate what I do, you tried to RIP me off, you
got fucked, and now you want nothing to do with anything?
Sounds professional when you say it like that.
That's literally the but it's literally what I said to the
last thing I said to them after they told me that and they never
got back to me. And I was like, next time I go
there, I'm just going to go, well, that and I had the whole.
I don't know. I don't know if writing got
fucked is the best professional. I had it up to here.
I was playing, I was being so nice.
We were going back and forth. You know, when you realize
there's no, you know, I was like, all right, that's it.
Well, then I had the whole Rockefeller issue, the whole,
you know, going up to the mausoleum and knocking on the
mausoleum door. And then they got in contact
with me and they were like, hey, listen, thank you so much to
representation of that family for not asking me to take the
videos down. I appreciate that and I still
do. And I will keep that word and
not, you know, not go up to that mausoleum ever again.
You know, it was great, dude. We started talking money with
one of the Rockefellers. That was great.
I was asking for financial advice.
All right, so we're adding Gettysburg to the to the, to the
repertoire for yes, documentation for yourself.
That's a good ad. That's a good ad, a good ad on
what's happening any, any movement with the capital.
How about study in that place here?
Capital's going to be in the winter.
That's going to be once the weather starts getting cold.
It's going to be one of the spots you know I'm going to end
up doing when you know, it's just look ahead in the weather,
hit them up, be like, hey, does this date work?
It's going to be super cold and windy.
It would be perfect if I'm inside.
So that's going to be definitely in the winter, OK, winter
location, winter locale. Any any other any other local
spots you have never hit that you need to hit that you want to
hit. So, high school, right?
High school. I've I've contacted a local
museum. There's a museum?
Yeah, there's a muse. Locally.
This is in Connecticut. This is in, you know, because
I'm at the border of New York, Connecticut.
Yeah. So I'm just.
Like, what the Hell's an Art Museum?
Nah, Alok Aloka. Museum.
What would do? First of all, time, what would
possibly make the cut for? For an art town museum,
probably. Corrupt Ledger.
This is the you know. This is a cheeseburger that so
and so dropped in the street. Forgot to finish eating it.
Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, right.
What's his name? You know, Janis Chaplin was this
is a cigarette butt that she once used on her way through
town. There's a heroin needle.
Here's a heroin needle from so and so.
Here's a black and white photo of a crack deal gone bad.
You. Know oh, this represents the
80s. Here's a pair of like
Cavarici's. Yeah, right.
Here's a. What's it called?
Here's this. This just came out of somebody's
fucking car window. We don't know what it is.
We don't know why they threw it out.
I mean, it could, it would art. I mean, it would be the worst
museum ever. Like what kind of?
Nothing. I don't even know what a stupid
thing. So of course, where is it like
in Greenwich? Is this Sir?
Yeah, yeah. Is that, is that the music?
Yeah. So will Greenwich let you go?
Will Greenwich let you hang out over there?
So I actually have a meeting with them next week.
I have a meeting with their Historical Society.
I'm going to explain what I do, how I do it.
Show them examples, you know, let them know I'll play by
their. Rules.
As long as it doesn't. Affect my lives.
I hope you wear sleeves. Yeah.
At this meeting.
It'd be great if you got that tooth fixed.
It's gonna. Help me, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna put a chick lay in there just for the, you know.
Just put a chicklet in that fucking tooth.
Yeah, just for the I'm gonna get fangs.
Dude, I decided I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna knock out the
other one and put, get fangs put in.
Now I'm just fucking with you. Imagine either way when you're
trying to, if you're trying to instill confidence, I think it
would help to wear sleeves and have teeth.
Yeah, I'm just saying yes. Yes.
Well, that's the thing. I'm not trying to distill
confidence. I'm just, I don't need the
confidence. I just need them to know that
I'm serious, trust and I'd like that to be serious.
So that's the biggest thing when doing this.
It has nothing to do with any of that.
It has to do with hey. I'll make no mistake, dude.
I doubt if they want. I know.
You know what I'm saying? Like it'll.
Eventually it'll help. It'll help you, though, dude.
It will when you walk in on a meeting and it's like, if you
don't look homeless, they'll be like, OK, he doesn't know what
he's doing. And it's like, yeah.
And then they know that this is for this and.
Everybody. My uncle thinks I look homeless.
Yes, I do at times. At times.
At times I'm a homeless looking. Guy, if you're going to a
business meeting, I mean, you should see this kid when he
cleans up. It's super handsome.
So I got, trust me, I got it all taken care.
Of that's not even. The the number one hurdle is
saying, hey, I document the paranormal and I'm serious about
this. That's the biggest hurdle
because. Sure, of course.
Historical societies, they're just like, wait, what?
Like we don't believe in this. We want nothing to do with this.
Every other historical side you have we.
Should think about a way. Well, look, we should figure out
a way to to phrase it so that they they understand what the
lens is, right? I mean, yeah.
There's probably better way to, I bring it down to them.
I break 'cause they have questions.
I break it down to them and what not.
And it's just all about, you know, basically it's, it's all
about them understanding that I'm willing to follow their
rules, you know, and, but I'd like to know what those rules
are because if those rules affect my documentation, I then
it's not, it's not going to work out.
And that's fine. You know, there's been places
I've, I've turned down, you know, saying hey, we, we need
this, we need that. What wouldn't?
They let you do. What did I turn down?
I turned down the Colonial house in Lions Park because they a
wanted to go the they they wanted to go through all of my
live footage like some places do.
Before I posted it. They would only give me like an
hour. There was all and, and, and I
needed somebody there with me, like, not even like waiting on
the property, like somebody in the room with me.
You know, I need to be accompanied, chauffeured, if you
will. And it's just like, I don't need
some stick in the mud standing there or starting to get
involved, asking questions, you know, ruining the documenting.
So I turned him down. And there's been other times
over the years to other places where I'm like, yeah, this isn't
going to work out. So they wanted.
So I mean, who would've been that person?
I mean, you're out. There, That's the other problem
too. Yeah, who's going to meet that
person, like, and how annoying are they going to get?
You know what if they hear something?
I mean, why can't, what are they concerned about?
Isn't it like, listen, I'll put down, you know, do you need a
security deposit or is it like, you know, what are they are they
worried about damaging? These places don't even these.
A lot of these places don't even care about money.
They care more about their image.
And then I just want to turn to him and be like, well, you're
not going to really have an image until.
What image do they think they have?
You'd be surprised. When it comes to small town
politics, people think they're little piece is like the size of
the Empire State Building, you know?
And it's just like, you ain't shit, no one's going to know.
They can't. They can't.
They can't see it past their bubble for.
Sure. Yes, yes, yeah.
I get that. They can't.
Nobody sees past their bubble when it comes to stuff like
that. So I'm I'm always dealing with
that and being like, hey, you know, it's I've listen, I've
tried to throw some some money at places.
They want nothing to do with it. You know, they want nothing to
do with it. I tried that.
Could you go in? Could you go in and not like say
where you are just like the undisclosed location and be
listen, I'm not going to tell people where I am.
Yeah, the I see the, the problem is I do that with so many spots.
These spots that I go to, I want them to have a name, you know, I
want, I want them to have a name.
Like there's enough spots that I go to where I'm like, oh, yeah,
we're not telling you where I'm at.
We're not telling you where I'm at.
I'm not going to tell you where I'm at.
But spots if they have a name and I can say that name, it's
just better for the it's it's more legit at the end of the day
too, you know, like this place I'd like.
To see, I'd like to see in. I'd like to see in New York City
in some spots, yeah. Yeah, I've done.
The Algonquin Hotel is wild. Like that was just insane.
But you know, a lot of people didn't really understand what
was going on there. They didn't know who the vicious
circle was. You know, they didn't understand
that like Broadway, you know, 191019201930 like, you know,
mentality like what was coming through there and just.
It was wild. What do you mean people?
You mean the the audience? Yeah, the audience smoked.
I mean, don't get me wrong. Like my core knew what it was
about, you know, but like, that's not like a like a view
grabber. Someone's going to go there and
be like, oh, who gives a shit who, you know, the perfect, the,
the, the vicious circle is, you get what I'm saying?
Like people, It's, it's, I loved it.
I thought it was great. The problem is, is that the
response from the people compared to how much it cost to
get in there. Dude, Henry Ford said once.
Listen, don't worry about the people, Henry Ford.
As Henry Ford said, if you ask the people what they want,
they'd say a faster horse. Yes, yes, you understand what
I'm saying. Yeah, but that's not right.
Yeah, but you're missing what I'm saying.
I am not talking about. I'm not talking about what I'm
No, no, no, that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about, OK, for example, if I spend $2000 on a
location and 150 people watch it and I make $100, what does that
mean? That's what I'm talking about.
If nobody knows what I'm doing there and it makes absolutely
nothing and I eat that, don't even bust even.
Because that's what you hope for.
You hope to bust even with things you know but.
You know, yeah, right. It's not a big enough.
Well, it's not, it's you have to promote.
It's not enough. It's not enough of a draw, I
guess. Exactly.
And you can't even you can never ask the people don't disrespect
us. You can never ask the people.
I've asked them questions full knowing the answer and they've
just said the wackiest stuff. So and and you can't, you know
what I'm saying? Yeah, listen, I love the people,
but it's, it's, it's everybody. The individual is great, the mob
is not. You know what I mean?
Oh, the mob mentality can be so brutal.
It's like, so all of you got all you fans on your own are great
together you're a mess, no. Kidding.
Oh man. Yeah, except for, except for
Brian Lamont from Pennsylvania that got into trouble with the
group without the group. Brian 10 is good.
But yeah, it's the the mob
mentality. I'm teasing.
I'm teasing Brian. Yeah, you get like, for example,
if you're gay, I'll give you a prime example where where it
drives me nuts and everybody knows this.
You get somebody comes in and goes, my health is just so not
good today. And then the next person and the
next person and the next thing you know, the entire chat is so
fucking depressing that anybody who is thinking about offing
themselves is definitely going to now you know what I mean?
That's. Listen, the worst Reddit's the
worst. So you know what?
We're on Reddit where if you're not following or joining our
community on Reddit for splintered spirits, please do
because it's a great, it's fun to sort of have those
conversations, right? And I put on there, I joined the
past lives subreddit because of all the past life stuff we did
last week and I wanted to post and promote and I wrote down a
question, right? So I didn't start by dropping a
link because a lot of these mods on those things you want to talk
about tough mods like they don't, they don't.
They just I've been banned from 2 subreddits, but at least 2.
So anyway, I I pose a question like, hey, I'm curious what
these audience thinks of the Akashic records.
Do you think it looks like a library?
Do you think it looks like a giant book with all your
secrets? Or does it look like the TVG?
You know, the TVA from Marvel, you know, the Marvel Universe
and somebody write and people were responding, right?
Like, I think I know, I've, I've done this.
I think it looks like a library. Oh, when I did it, I saw
scrolls. Oh, I saw it like this.
And then someone wrote, someone wrote, well, we can't even prove
this exists. And like, I had to take a minute
and I did respond because I, you know, look, I'm going to
respond. And I said, hey, listen, man,
you know, we're talking about fringe science and things
paranormal. So no one can prove anything
that exists. So saying that is so wildly
unhelpful to the conversation. I said I want to.
I am. I am writing in the past lives
subreddit, asking the community of the past lives subreddit what
they think of this. And I and I care about what they
think of this for you to write that is, is so ridiculous and
it's just unhelpful. And I said, let me, and for
lastly, let me say this, being contrarian is not a sign of
intelligence. So have a good day, right?
And it's just, you know, people just have to be difficult and
say different things just to go make themselves feel smart.
But anyway, it's, it's, it's that whole thing, right?
You're just sitting there listening to people and they
have to jump in and they have to chime in.
And in a way that is, dude, what are you doing here?
It's like, listen, guys, you're you're watching a live right now
called Splintered Spirits with two Dicks talking about ghosts.
If you come in here and start saying ghosts aren't real.
That's my favorite. Ghosts aren't the it's like,
what are you doing with yourself?
Like, you know, like what? Go somewhere.
Like why? Are you really that lonely?
One of my favorite things to do when when these people come in
and say they say ghost don't exist is a great, that's a great
way to end it, right? When somebody comes into the
chat now and says spirits don't exist, I literally turn to him
and say, hey, you know what? You might be right, but I was
laying with your mother last night and we were talking about
it too. And they get they, we, we had a,
we had another troll come in that said something that got me
like not pissed, but made me go, oh shit.
Like the way they worded something, they worded it as if
they were on an agenda against like people like myself, you
know what I mean? Like they grouped me in with a
group of people and I'm like, yo, how many people do you go
and harass a night because you disagree with what they're
doing? Sure, you get what I'm saying.
Like that is so unhealthy mentally.
I was like, I feel bad for you, you know, but you know, your,
your brain is shot. Your brain is shot.
It's it's it is really something else.
All right, man, It's what are we talking about?
It's what harm is any of this cause anybody?
It's so absurd to me. So yeah, it's like, you know, we
don't mean to group all of you fans in with that, but you know,
sometimes it happens. Sometimes it happens.
You get a bad hava, but we love you all.
We just don't love you all together.
Yeah. Yep.
Yep, Yep. I love you all together.
Yep. Sorry, sorry, I'm kidding.
I joke. I joke.
I don't. I don't.
Well, John, look, we hit, we hit an hour here.
I know we got other things to do.
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We have an author medium, a clairaudient.
She actually, you know, she experiences spirit by hearing
it. Her name is Joni Mahan, who's
going to be the interview for next Tuesday's drop.
And again, if you missed the beginning of this episode where
I talk about it, her whole experience with ghost
communication is not a fun one. She ain't laughing like we're
laughing. She's it is it is a it is a
curse and a scary life that she leads and it's in in for her,
which I find interesting because it's not.
We have never we've never spoken to somebody like that who really
sort of has AI don't know. It's like she I asked like, why
do you kill? Why do you still do this man?
Like why are you still doing it? And there isn't like a sort of a
morbid attraction to it for her. You know, she as she's trying to
she has she has to balance her life with it.
She has no choice other than to balance her life around it and
keep doing it until she gets better at it.
But it's anyway, it's a really interesting one.
That'll be Tuesday's drop and we are going to be re releasing.
Speaking of the fireplace room, that was episode 8.
You know, we just re released episode 2.
Episode 8 We have like that's almost two hours long.
So that'll be less edited with video.
That'll be a great one. We'll.
Be. Is that the one?
With Kathy. Flying down in here and.
That's what that's in the planchet.
That's when Kathy's in there with you and the planchet.
So I'm going through that right now to get that one ready for a
re drop. And you know, look, a lot more
to come. A lot of a lot of great guests
coming through October. And we thank you guys for
listening. You helped this guy.
You helped us hit that first 1000 mark and we appreciate it.
Thank you so much for that. Really.
You guys rock. You all right?
Awesome, awesome. All right, folks.
That's it for today. Glad you can see you all.
Thank you so much for coming, John.
It's good to talk to you. I will talk to you later.
You got it. All right, my man, let me call
day everyone. Peace out.
Have a good, long,