Welcome to a bonus episode of Splintered Spirits, a podcast
hosted by me, Gary and my nephew Johnny from at Santa Paranormal.
The following is from March 6th and was our first of many weekly
live broadcasts where we recap the pod and answer questions
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Here's the thing dude. It's like, now we're live.
Yeah, we're live right now, it says.
We've been live. We're.
Live in the world. Yeah, yeah, that is wild.
I mean, look, guys, you know what we're going to do here is
we've got episodes 5 and 6 dropping on Tuesday.
We have already dropped episodes one through 4.
And if you haven't watched episodes one through 4, I'm
guessing anybody who jumped in the second you said you were
live has seen it. Yeah, but the whole the whole
thing. Here, right?
I mean, come on, what are we doing here?
This is for you guys. The whole point of One through 4
is, if you haven't figured it out by now, is the idea behind
the podcast is to do a deeper dive on what spirits are or what
they might be trying to figure that out.
Johnny has a theory on what spirits are as we've gotten to
right out of the gate, which is that they are.
Johnny, why don't you tell? Am I talking for you?
Well, you know, most of you already know, I feel that
spirits are memories. Scientifically, logically, it
makes the most sense. You know, that's that's what I
base. You know, everything I do off of
off those theories, at least how I look at and perceive what I'm
taking in when I'm live, you know, on Santa paranormal on
TikTok. I see my son is on here making
fun of me. Yeah, kick this.
He just he called me a nerd if. He can.
Anyone else sees it? That is my own son.
And now? What's up guys all?
Right, to go along, to go back to what Johnny's theory is, is
the reminder is so these memories are attached to the
energy that we all have. I don't know if everybody knows
there's a brain surgeon out there, but you don't have to be
a brain surgeon to know that we have electrical impulses in in
our brain synapses that happened.
This is a fact. I looked it up.
Johnny believes the memories are attached to that energy.
When we die, that energy is released and that's what
potentially these spirits are that he's talking to all the
time. OK, Yep.
So that's, that's where we're starting from.
The first two, the first 3 episodes were really just me
sort of getting a little bit of a handle on that and seeing what
John does other than beyond just what we've all seen him do live
on his TikTok. And he took me to three.
You know, we were in the cemetery for one.
The first one was just an intro, the cemetery for episode 2.
And then we were in the fireplace room with the
wonderful Edward for episode 3. So Rich, realistically, what was
your initial reaction to not not even hearing the spirits?
Because again, that could just be, you know, if you didn't know
any better, it could just be pre recordings, you know, it could
just be, you know, me hitting play on something.
Once you started hearing the interaction for the first time,
what was your initial reaction to that?
Well, you know the the it's here's where it's hard to say
what the initial reaction of hearing spirits for the first
time was. It really wasn't much.
What I was most impressed with was the fact that the
personalities in the locations matched what you said they were
going to be. It was like, listen, we're going
to go to the fire release room. This this ghost is, you know, a
real pain in the ass. He's going to make fun of me a
ton. And when we got there, he did
make fun of you a ton. And I found that to be like, and
that doesn't and the fact that that didn't happen in other
places is why is the weird? That's the weirdest thing to me.
Like that was the wait a second. Yeah, what's going on?
Like, yes, every time you're in the fireplace room, you got this
guy who's calling you an A hole or he's making fun of your
weight or he's make calling you poor.
And that is not as prolific. That doesn't happen everywhere.
It it has happened by others. But the voice was the same and
the the insults were the same and that is strange.
So let's I want to dive into that real quick too.
Key thing you said there. The voice is the same.
What what the the spirit he's talking about.
Not that everybody doesn't know. Everyone that's in this chat
right now knows exactly what we're talking about.
We're talking about Edward. OK, When I run that, that app is
called Ghost tube. When I run that, it's on the
dynamic setting, which now let's say hypothetically that I am
actually programming words into that.
Even though we all know that some of those phrases that are
that are in Ghost Tube that come out of Ghost Tube, you can't put
in because it's too many characters.
Anybody that's ever tried knows that.
But let's say I were to figure out a way to get them to do that
and get these phrases in there. How the hell would it be on
dynamic setting and spit out those voices every time
concurrently with that same voice?
You know, and again, this, this is what we're going to do here.
We're going to deep dive into a lot of this on the on the, you
know, on this podcast, on the live version of this podcast.
So it I'm just adding to what what Gary was saying.
It's consistent, it's consistency.
And you know, that's just wild. And once you know the tech
aspect of it and know how it all works, it even gets crazier
because it's like, whoa, wait a minute, you know you're running
this on dynamic. How is this popping off this
way? Yes, the the fact that there was
a personality to the spirits in a location was what I found.
OK, that's bananas. That's really what was the what
was weird. Yeah, the other.
So from there, I realized, like, I don't know what I'm doing at
all. And that's what led me to want
to talk to, you know, for Episode 4 to get another history
and another perspective of someone who's been investigating
for, you know, decades. Like, OK, what are the right
questions to ask? What do we have to do?
And if our whole goal is to try to figure out what spirits are,
we can't just be going on TikTok and like doing the same thing.
We've got to try a lot of things and try a lot of different
things to get there. So that's what we did.
We tried, we're trying a lot. That's what we are doing.
We are trying a lot of things to get there.
So what I'm curious now with these first 4 episodes is from
you guys are what are your questions?
I want to hear some questions. I want to know like ask us
anything. Tell us like, what do you think?
What do you like? What don't you like?
What do you like in the podcast? What are what are experiences do
you have that maybe we can answer or touch on or that
contradict or support things you've heard or seen on John's
live or in the OR from the podcast so far?
So what do you want to start? What you want to start with
their experiences of the podcast.
Any anything that that'll speak to their questions, I'd love for
them to ask. I'm putting you all in the spot.
All 21 of you are on the. Spot open mic.
Open mic. What do you got?
What do you got for me? Ask a question.
If you don't have a question about ghosts, then ask another
question. Ask away.
Let's get warmed up. What do you want to know?
Godzilla. Why did you say Godzilla?
I don't know, maybe it's like I sound like Godzilla.
Is it like a? More like Godzooki.
Is there like a delay or something?
I don't know what Godzilla means.
Yeah, but again. No, Now what it's doing.
Come on, folks, you're leaving us hanging.
Let's go. Imagine this was the TV show.
We'd have dead air. Dead air behind the scenes would
be. They'd be freaking out right now
in a production. Like what's?
Going on, here we go. Do you believe spirits visit us
in dreams? You want to start and then I'll
go. I want you to answer that I have
no idea. So I don't believe they visit us
in dreams. I believe actually that their
energy of the spirit that resonates with us is better, is
more commutative with us while we're sleeping.
So I don't believe now hold on, it's not 100%, you know, black
and white, you know, it could there be spirits that visit us
in our dreams? Other reason why I didn't want
to use my in my back. You're back.
OK, so let me say this first.
I believe that the majority of spirits that we experienced in
our dreams are from the energy that's in US already.
So our loved ones that have passed, because I believe that
we do get some of their memories.
We've seen this in science. We've seen this with organ
transplants. You hear about DNA memory, you
know, the works. You, you, you know this, you can
all look this stuff up. You know, it's not like I'm
pulling this stuff out of a out of a hat.
Like this is all, you know, stuff that's in science.
There's been studies on this. Could there be a percentage of
spirits that visit? Sure.
But the amount of spirits that do come to us in our dreams are
because their energy is already with us.
So that's what that's what that's what I believe from at
least the data that I've taken in.
All right, wait. I got a question that I can
answer very quickly. Tammy, when is Splintered Spirit
merch coming out? If you go to
splinteredspirits.com, we've got a ton of merch.
Have at it. Thank you for that question.
Oh, this is a good one, This one.
I want to know the answer to Marjorie's asking John why does
Edward hate John? So Edward hates me so much
because I am in his home. You got to understand something.
The fireplace from before I went in there was unused.
Nobody used it. It was, it was like the
abandoned side decreping, falling apart, dirty.
It was just left alone for decades, decades.
This thought was, you know, undisturbed.
And then all the sudden I came in there and I started doing an
eBay store out of there. And then I cleaned up the other
side, which is the side you guys know so much, the fireplace
side. The first side I cleaned up in
that place was the storage side. So that just pissed him off.
And that's, that's why that's that's what started it.
Once Edward realized, holy shit, like, you know, he's this is
live. There's people that are talking
to him, there's people that are hearing me.
It just, he just took it from there and went frigging ape
shit, you know? John, someone here is asking
this question. I don't know what this what this
means. Qde.
Yeah, you see this? Yes, I do.
What is QDE? So First off, QDE is a term that
I coined, all right. And, and it's, it's, it's, it's
a theory of mine. And it's based off Thomas
Edison's theory of life particles and life units.
The theory is called quantum device entanglement.
And that's basically when spirit particles from 1 area are
reacting with spirit particles in another area and they're
doing it through the device. So basically the fact that
somebody's watching me, or in this case us right now, and
they're watching through their device, the spirit particles
here through quantum entanglement are reacting to one
another. With that said, is it hail?
Hail like dimension? I have no idea if I experienced
that. I don't know how to answer that.
I guess so. Would I know if I've experienced
it? The, the, the common
experiences, the very common are headaches, feelings of
uneasiness, you know, nausea, things like that.
But those can also be explained through other means as well.
Obviously. Then the more extreme are
nosebleeds getting, you know, hurt, you know, passing out, you
know, things of that nature, the entities that you have in your
home because everywhere is haunted, start acting up as
well, almost like they're being affected by the stream you're
watching or is there is. There something going on with a
with those symptoms that I would know.
Like this is not just a headache because I'm dehydrated.
This is a headache caused by this.
What? Would be yeah, because every
time you log on and watch you would you would experience it.
Well, I always say, listen, QDE you back out, you come back in
and severs the connection, but always make sure you're
hydrated. You know, you you you're eating
properly, you got enough sleep. You know, all these things that
can cause the symptoms that you're experiencing before you
go oh, it's QDE. You know, if you had a stressful
day and all the sudden you're watching my loud ass.
Even if you enjoy watching me, I'm still a stress factor for
you. I'm still a stimulus for you.
It could be just my very voice and my loudness affecting you,
you know. So I always say, hey, listen,
there could be other factors that 'cause this, but if you
know for a fact that it's every time you watch me at a certain
location, then it's QD gate and you got to back out and come
back in. Don't back out and leave forever
because then you're never going to build a tolerance to it.
And that's the other thing. People have built tolerances to
it, which is wild. That is wild.
All right, well, I will look to answer your question.
It's a long way to go. I'll have to pay more attention
to those symptoms, hail and see if that's what I'm experiencing
or not. It's hard for me to tell if you
see me looking at the sides because I'm reading your things.
I'm trying to go down. The Hall.
Me too. You guys, I love it.
I love that you're you're asking me things, Lori.
You asked if the Doctor on the I want to know the Doctor on the
last episode is wrong. Wrong about what?
Yeah, wrong about what I I mean, it's like, here's the thing,
He's been doing this for 40 years.
He's got thousands of investigations.
And when he saw what John can do and what I showed him what he
can do, he gave me a list of things that he would do to find
out an answer. He didn't have an answer one way
or the other of what John is doing.
He's basing his ants, he's basing his answers on his
experiences. What John is doing is relatively
new. When you're looking at A50 year
history of this guy's thing and John's four or five year history
of doing it with, you know, apps, Apps didn't even exist,
you know, for that long of a time.
That's a new thing. So he's not wrong.
He gave us definitions that, look, you can call things what
you want. We're trying to stick with
definitions to help us stay consistent, and I think he's got
good definitions of things in terms of like what an apparition
is and what a haunting is and what a poltergeist and a
poltergeist agent are. That just helps us be consistent
when we discuss what we're talking about.
There's no right or wrong to that.
That's. Just the way we're talking.
Also, I'd, I'd like to point something out too.
That's super important if you're being diagnosed with something,
right? Let's say you're not feeling
well and you're sick and you go and you go to get diagnosed by
doctors. If you go to somebody who's an
oncologist that specializes in cancer, they're going to see
cancer. If you go to a meteorologist,
they're going to see autoimmune. And it takes more data for them
to go, oh, wait, this might be something else like.
So that's also very important. It's the same thing with me on
my life, you know, when I'm dealing with spirits, I'm, you
know, listening to memories. So that's also very important.
Going to this Doctor Who's been doing this for decades.
You know, he, he has his data. He has, you know what, what he
is basing his scientific method on.
And these are the perspectives that we want on the on the
podcast. His name's Lloyd Auerbach and
you should check him out, read it, you know, get all their
perspectives. I mean, he's he knows what he's
doing, by the way. All right, you ready for this
question? This is from I recognize this
name because she's a champion, but it's like she's clearly
smart. Are you ready for this?
Look at this. If spirits memories are a
transfer of their energy, first law of thermodynamics.
Do they lose memory because their energy becomes disordered?
The second law of thermodynamics.
What? Yes, you got.
The big brain on Brie. 100 percent, 100% in fact.
You're saying they lose They. Lose the memory, yo.
Forget about dying. Forget about dying.
Let's talk about the living, dude.
Let's say you could like if, if I remember the first place I
took my wife out to dinner. OK, before we were married.
All right, I'm going to start confusing what she was wearing
the first time with the second time.
All right? My, my shirt color is going to
change. Hell, even 20-30 years, the
restaurant might change or that memory might disappear,
disappear completely. It happens when we're living,
not just the dead. So I can only imagine when you
die what happens to the memory, especially as they scatter like
they must be. But that explains a lot though.
Well, Bree said explain so much why spirits forget who they are,
why they're so disoriented all the time and it and it's what
makes the ones that come through strong super special.
So yes, I I would have to say yes, the memories do get
affected. Bree's so young, she's probably
trying to write like a college paper on.
Ghost. Yeah, right.
It's. Like she's talking to us
knuckleheads about wizard in the making.
All right, here's. Another Oh, OK, so hold on,
let's let's go back to Lloyd for a minute.
I know what what what people meant by is Lloyd wrong?
And they're talking about no spirits being at the cemetery.
Everyone needs to remember this, and this is super important and
I know a lot of my first years do before me stepping into a
cemetery to gather data. The common conception with the
paranormal was that there were no spirits at cemeteries.
Anybody who who who dubbed themselves a professional,
anybody who did it as a hobby. Think about it.
If if they thought that spirits were at cemeteries, you would
have seen all the original ghost hunting shows being done at
cemeteries like crazy. But they weren't.
They were done in people's homes.
They were done in places of business.
It was. It wasn't believed that spirits
were in cemeteries until I started showing them that there
were spirits in cemeteries. But also this.
Let me point this out logically when I tell the man John thinks
spirits are memories and then we're at a cemetery.
Guys, you know 2 + 2 doesn't equal 5.
You don't remember your cemetery.
You're never going to remember it.
You're never going to know it. So.
Unless. So there's so that you know what
I'm saying like there's just no way though that makes sense
unless of in in that regard. But go ahead.
This is what we're trying to appear here.
Can gain new memory. If spirits either gain new
memory, then they can remember and we know that the.
Other thing is also being is it the other idea of being spawned
off of a loved one? Or all a possibility.
That's what I'm saying. So that's, but so when while
Lloyd, while, you know, Mr. Auerbach was saying, Lloyd
Auerbach was saying like, well, there's no spirits at
cemeteries. After we tell him we think it's
memories, you could see why there's a disconnect logically.
And that stems from, well, where's that energy then coming
from to create what we're hearing?
And, and so let me just let me just press on what what Gary
said so everybody fully understands because I know you
guys all right, what what Gary was saying.
You know, what if it isn't old memory versus new memory where
spheres can gain a new memory? What if it was the actual
leftover memories of the ones that visited them and buried
them in the ground originally, which is a possibility.
That's the crazy thing. This could literally be quantum
memories connecting. So for example, if me and Gary
go out to a bar one night, we have the craziest night ever,
all right? And we have a third person with
us, let's say, let's say his name is Manny.
We have Manny Manuel with us, all right?
And it's me, Gary and Manuel, and we're having.
Handsome. He's got to be super handsome.
Super handsome. Manny, go ahead.
Super handsome, Manny. No one's more handsome than
Manny is. You know what I'm?
Saying I call him the Grim Reaper because he kills all of
our game right away. We want to adore any game we've
got. It's gone.
He's got so much game, we don't even have to speak.
He just points. So, so Manny, you know, we die,
you know, I die, Gary dies and then Manny dies later on.
You know, there's a chance that the reason why we're at those
headstones or we're in that cemetery in general is because
Manny came and visited and a little bit of our energy was
there and then it quantumly connects almost like snaps back.
Now think of it like this, everybody.
Mr. Churchwell, he's the most recent spirit that left for a
super long time and then came back.
Where did he go? Why was he gone?
We don't know. So anything is possible.
Remember, it's the theory that spirits are memory.
Do I have any of those answers? No, I don't.
So it could be anything. It literally could be systemic
of other people's memories that are causing that to happen, let
alone the actual memory of the spirit going to its final
wrestling location. There may need to be a catalyst
is what I'm saying. Now, if you listen to episode 4
and we talk about this a little more in in the upcoming episode
5, and it's going to lead to the it's going to answer a question
that I'm about to jump on. We talk about for a split
second. Is John some sort of a tech
medium or some sort of a spectral AI, right, which is
like my sort of like, well, what's going on?
And I'm going to drop a I'm going to drop a dopey video, but
this goes to great. Gracie asked and it's a good
question, right? If spirits are memories, how do
they communicate intelligently, right?
So that's a wonderful question. So it's, it's the, the, this is
where the idea or what I was thinking about in terms of what
is spectral AI mean? And I'm dropping one of my dopey
videos about giving you a, a, a truncated definition of how to
explain it. But AI, if nobody knows how AI
works, I'll give you this the, the quick version of it, right?
It's a large language model. So information pulls information
from all sources, whether it's Twitter or Google or YouTube or
art or the library. And when you ask it a question,
it processes that information and creates a new prediction of
something of a new answer, Right?
Well, what if John is able to take these imprints, these
memories, that of a certain time and place of these people, this
energy, and through the help of the tech?
Because that's where the voice is coming through.
It's he can reprocess it somehow and create a conversation.
I don't know if that's true, but why isn't it true?
Because something's happening. And if it's a locked memory that
can have a conversation now and how do they communicate
intelligently? Maybe it's because he can take
that, that memory and reprocess it.
And that speaks to one of the things that Lloyd was talking
about in terms of what a haunting is versus what an
apparition is. Whereas a haunting is an
imprint. It's a, it's, it's, it's just a,
it's a loop. It's just the energy is frozen
there. And it's, it's a recording, if
you will, not a, an entity or a being.
It's a recording. And maybe John can take that and
reprocess it as well versus what a spirit is, except for this.
And that might still be the case.
But what you're going to see in episodes, well, you're going to
get a taste of in episode 6 coming up, you're going to see,
we're going to, I'm going to meet, I sit down with a medium
first. But then when John sits down
with that medium, and this is one of Lloyd's tests to bring in
a medium, what's there? Kathy also feels the spirits in
what they are. Do you want to jump in on any of
this action? You want to get in on some of
this? Sure, I, I, I, I would love to
you guys know, I have my theories on, you know, the
basics, like, you know, let's talk about, you know, the, the
recording, if you will like listen, one big trope with the
paranormal and unfortunately even that the scientists that
dive into this get caught up in is the term energy.
Like energy, like it's energy has an explanation, you know,
like you need like for example, you know, you hold, you hold a
lighter to something, right? And that item, if you hold a
flame next to something now on top of it, what happens?
Convection, that energy heats up the item next to it.
Like you can explain the energy. So there's been no actual
explained reasons why recordings would happen, right?
That's like, that's where the disconnect is with that logic,
with the all these things. So, you know, I have my own
theories on that. Obviously you guys know that I
feel that we can interact with these recordings, that they're
more than just recordings. They are loops that can be
broken, which is one of the reasons why a lot of the time
spirits are like, yo, this is like a dream when I'm talking to
you because they're stuck in that loop and then all the
sudden you're interrupting it. However, the tech medium thing
that was a joke of ours like last year, like I literally
would like joked around that I was a tech medium because
everybody knows my disdain that I have for mediums.
I have a disdain for them big time.
However, there are people that have a gift and the unfortunate
ones that claim they have a gift make the ones that do seem less
believable. But the medium that we have
coming on to splintered spirits is awesome.
Johnny, I want to jump, I want to I want to jump in here with
something for to show everyone because they're going to get a
taste they're going to get a taste of Kathy in episode 6 and
Kathy gives me a reading guys and.
Now this is this is not in the episode, right?
This is. Private remember if I don't
remember if this part made the cut, but it's good because then
it'll be new and everything stays new and they won't see
anything twice. But Kathy gives me a reading and
she talks about my older brother, John's uncle, who
passed away. I don't want to bring the party
down, but I'm going to let me jump in on this, this clip real
quick with you guys. And then I'm going to explain
what she's talking about and why it freaked me, kind of freaks me
the hell out. So let me just see, here we go.
Let's jump in. Your brother, I don't know.
He gives me. He takes a pack of cigarettes
and throws it across the room. So what is that?
I don't know, but he's a smoker. OK, all right.
Did someone try to get him to stop?
I'm sure everybody tried to get him to stop.
I don't know what that is because he's giving me a very
like, like an angry throw like like that kind of a.
OK so my brother died in a car accident.
He wasn't wearing his seat belt. My brother was, you know, he was
sober. We know that.
How did he not see what was coming?
It was a head on collision, what happened?
And my sister and I had always said we thought he might have
been reaching for his cigarettes.
I still get chills when I think about, I don't know.
I don't know if that'll show up on camera.
I get chills when I think about it.
It was bananas when she said it. That was so specific.
Very specific. Story and it's like look that
it's you know, it puts a whole new light on the idea of what's
coming through and you'll see there's a couple other things.
I dropped something in the promo for six that you see that she
says also about my brother. He came through a lot to her,
which and guys, I got to tell you, I don't know how for the
life of me, she figured the this stuff out because between the
time that I reached out to her to sit down with her and by the
time we had, this was very short.
I don't have a big social media presence personally.
You can't see any photos. There's nothing online that
would even remotely connect me to my brother's former social
media. I just don't know how you would
connect those dots, especially some of the things that she
said. It was like, so it's like, look,
it's weird. It was weird, but yeah.
We, well, we had a couple of those instances with her.
I don't know if the the the whole nativity part came into
it. I, I, I think I might, I might.
I don't know if I got into that because we couldn't, we had
nowhere to go with it. So it didn't have a resolution.
So I didn't know if I any, Yeah. But that's just, it was just
odd. She said something that
resonated with the both of us. And we were like, wait a minute,
almost like we have a vague memory of something from our
childhoods that, you know, had to do with, with a nativity,
which was odd because it made us both go, wait a minute.
It made us both think. And then I've, I've said this a
million times. So, so far on my live stream, I
never posted the tunnel. Like I posted the pathway to the
hidden cemetery, which is part of that tunnel.
But in, in, in that episode where me and Kathy sit down, she
keeps going on about the tunnel, but she's not saying the tunnel.
She's saying like the, the route, the, the train tracks and
me taking the train in graffiti. And that's what she's seeing.
And around that time, you know, the, the, it was, it was shortly
after we saw the, the entity there.
So I, I, one of my best captures was there, Gary, OK, one of my
best captures ever was there. So it was.
Does that would you say here, here's something somebody wants
to know? Oh, wait, let's that's not it.
That's something else. That was something we already
answered that one here, this one.
What do you feel is your best evidence you've caught so far?
Hands down, it has to be the the woman at the pathway to the
hidden cemetery. Is that pathway the tunnel?
No, these are two different things.
No, no, no. That's, that's the tunnel.
So you have to go through the tunnel.
You have to go under and through the tunnel to get to the pathway
to the hidden cemetery. So hands down, because I spoke
to that entity of all the things I've seen and I've dealt with,
I've never like spoken like face.
I was face to face with this thing like other things I've
chased like this was. We exchanged words.
I thought she was a drug addict. She looked sunken in pale.
I thought she was an addict of some.
Short number she asked for. Cash.
No. No, she didn't.
She did it. Kind of wish she did.
Now I'm just playing. No, but seriously.
Gets lonely in the cemeteries guys gets.
Lonely. Yeah, it gets real lonely.
So it was just odd. And then all of a sudden now I'd
like to point out while this whole thing is unfolding on my
live stream, I'm arguing with my chat.
Like literally saying, guys, that's a real person.
I spoke to her coming up with every reason that that's a real
person and not a spirit until she disappeared, you know, was
reappearing and and and and reappearing when she was walking
to insane. Insane.
So hands down, that's my best capture because I actually spoke
to her in person. I've never had that sort of
experience before like that. So you know what I mean?
You know what I mean? Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Here's a here's a question from
Deborah. So if memory is still there, why
do you think that a message can't be related to the living
relative during an interaction? I guess maybe she's asking, you
know, like if ask this person something for me, I don't know.
Is that what you want and want to know?
Deborah, you still. You still.
Well, let me see. So if a memory is still there,
why do you think that message cannot be relayed to the living
relative during an interaction? There could be many factors for
that. You know, remember, we're
talking about, you know, memories of the dead coming to
the living. We, we have no way to measure
that. So we have no idea exactly how
much of that person is coming. That's the that's the issue.
So there only might be a small, you know, residual part and it
might not be enough to relay an actual message.
All right. You know, that's just, I mean
could be one of the many reasons.
I'm seeing, I mean, I, I think dude, we've actually answered so
far everyone's question. I don't see anybody asking any
more questions. That's it, guys.
We've answered it. If you're all set, you guys all
know everything there is to know about spirits and ghosts.
We've dealt, we've done it. Our work here is done.
Podcast is over. We've solved it.
People are people know about the afterlife, they're all set.
That's it, It's done. It's crazy, dude.
Anyway, that's very look, that was that was great.
So what what are you going to see next?
So you're going to see John and I sort of recap a lot and talk
about this sort of idea of what beyond that, it's just spirits
that John himself is some sort of a conduit, right?
So that's where also we're going, and that's also something
we're testing. We're not doctors, we're not
psychiatrists. We like to pretend we are on
airplanes if someone's having an emergency, but other.
Than I was almost a psychologist.
That's that's yeah, so. But no, we're not.
Here's something, here's something from Michelle.
She I think someone threatened her but check this question out.
Someone threatened her. How can someone that lives in a
house with you say they are going to haunt you and they
actually do? I feel like somebody threatened
Michelle with like, I'm coming at when I'm dead, I'm coming
back at you. And now her house is haunting #1
Michelle move. For some, Michelle, how long did
they live there with you? Was it, you know, if they were
there for years? You know, what do I always say,
you know that that when your energy scatters, it's going to
go to the places you're most familiar with and the people
they're most familiar with so. Michelle, do you have an answer
for us? How long have you been haunted
by someone and who was it? We'll come back to Michelle if
she responds. Do you think Churchwell or other
spirits who hadn't got to see you for a while will eventually
remember you again? So, Jen, that goes into my
theory of old memory versus new memory, which I actually have
data on, you know, and I've always known it's again, it's
not black and white. There's, you know, different
spirits can remember different things and stimulus and, and,
and this, that and the other. But don't forget there was a
cemetery that I disappeared for months from.
And those spirits had no interaction with me.
And they, all, the majority of them forgot who I was.
OK. One of them remembered who I
was. That was Virginia, which makes
sense because I left a gift at her grave, you know, and I had a
lot of interactions with with her and her husband.
Do you guys, you know, remember that from you years ago?
But one spirit who I also left gifts at his grave, completely
forgot who I was. And when I reintroduced myself
to him, we actually get along great when originally we did
not. He was known as the grumpy one.
That's why we left the Oscar the Grouch on his grave as a gift.
Like, all right, you're always grumpy every time I see you.
OK, funny enough, that spirit is actually the nephew of the man
who built this tower. So a little little side tidbit
there. Michelle responded.
She said it was your mom. Oh, yeah.
Well, that's why Michelle, it was your mom.
Obviously, she lived with you. You had a somewhat close
relationship with her. So forget about her living with
you. That's your mom.
You know, that's your mom. I mean, it makes sense.
Mama's haunting you. Mom's haunting you.
Speaking of haunting, Johnny, do you want to talk about this
ghost story that somebody submitted to us online?
Yes, guys, Also yes. As a reminder, if you have a
ghost story or evidence, go to splinteredspirits.com and tell
us about it. Upload your photos, upload.
You know, you can like, let us know and we'll cover it.
And I'm going to cover one. We're going to talk about one
right now. And.
I'm not going to read this whole letter, but this comes from this
comes from one of our esteemed sort of fans.
Where did I put that photo, John?
It's like, all right, this comes from Jen Brown.
All right, I'm going to read this a little.
Johnny, listen to this. So she's always been fascinated
by life and death. And when she was little, she
said to her nanny, that's their grandmother, not some kind of
nanny rich people have, lol. That's all from her.
So her her grandmother says, when you die, will you come to
visit me to let me know? There's more after.
So this also speaks to the question we just got.
So she would always say, Jenny, if there's any way I could do
that, I promise I will. As I got older, my bravery
weighed a bit and I said, nanny, I changed my mind and I don't
want you to popping up at the end of my bed, scaring the crap
out of me. Can you give me a sign or do
something else that will that will let me know again?
She told me if there's any way she's allowed.
She promised she would anyway. She lost her grandmother on
October 6th, 2009. Her family gets together for
Thanksgiving and apparently like people are all about the house
and they left the house. Look, she went downstairs to
this room that she's claiming nobody was in and then she saw
this and I'm going to share this with you.
Share this with everyone, guys. You're all in for a treat.
There we go. There it is.
OK. That looks like a footprint.
Would you agree or not? Yes.
OK. And she's saying, she goes on in
her letter, that they measure the size of this footprint.
I was about to ask that. And it does not match anyone.
So it was about A5 size 5. No one in the house is a size 5,
and that was about the size of her grandmother.
Wait, so her grandmother was a size 5?
Yes, she's a lot. So it's like there's she's
saying, and it's the only one like it that was there.
There was no other water, no other marks, nothing.
Just that. Just that interesting.
Now she thinks that that's her grandmother, correct?
She's wondering if it's a if it's some sort of a physical
apparition. Yeah, you know.
So that goes into what, you know, I wanted to say to
Michelle before we moved on to the next thing, you know, if I
had more to say to Michelle. Michelle, and this applies to
this footprint. Michelle, how do you know that
that was your mother that was haunting you in your in your
house or apartment? And how does the person who
submitted that picture know that that was her grandmother?
Because it was a size 5. Was she the only person with the
size 5 footprint ever to exist in the world?
You know, and how many people? And what's the history with
Michelle's house? See what you see where I'm going
with this? Do I believe that, you know,
with Michelle was being haunted? Yes.
Even though I don't have all the details, I'm going to take it on
faith that you were, you know, you were experiencing things
that you couldn't explain. And the same thing with that
footprint. I'm going to take it on faith
that that wasn't fake, that this is a real genuine experience.
But from all the information, all the the data that I'm
getting, I can't say that that was her grandmother.
This is not enough information. Something there, yes, especially
if the water got turned on by itself.
You know, things like that. Even though water getting turned
on by itself can have a scientific, actually a technical
reason, it's because the faucet starts going bad, which happens
with certain types of faucets, especially the cheaper ones.
But still, regardless if it was a spirit that turned on the
water, if it went into the water for whatever reason and then
came and left that footprint, there's no way to tell that that
was actually her grandmother. The same way there's no way to
tell that that the spirit that was haunting Michelle was
actually her mother. That's something that she's
going on because of her connection with her mother.
I'm going to haunt you when I die.
And then all the sudden she's getting haunted.
Of course you're going to be like, Oh yeah, crap.
That's mom. It might not have been Mom.
Same thing with this footprint. That might not have been your
grandma. That could have been somebody
else. So I just wanted to add that in
how they both go together. That's true, and you see what
John just did there, folks, by the way, is exactly what Lloyd
is doing when I show him John's stuff.
This is how it works, guys. This is how you study and learn,
you say? Not sure I need more
information. This is how it all works out.
This is what we're all trying to do here as we try to figure out
what spirits are. Dare I say that maybe we try to
figure out what happens when we die?
Now now, let me add this too. I guarantee if Lloyd watched a
couple of a week of my lives and saw it first hand and saw it
live and saw it happening or maybe even went with me and
watched it go down, he would have more data.
Of course he would. That's.
What he yeah, he would love it. Like they, they all want to see
it in person. Yeah, right.
Because as you know, everyone is skeptical of, you know, what's
you know is especially with devices.
I don't know what's. Very skeptical of devices and
it's like, is it this is it that is it pre programmed?
Is it a thing blah blah blah. It's that's just the way, that's
just how everyone's going to be, right, especially.
With well, well, Gary, I'm, I'm skeptical of the, the devices
myself. That's why I don't say the
spirit's name when I approach a headstone.
I, I personally think that a lot of these companies, no matter
whether you go a ghost tube or necrophonic or, you know, spirit
talker or transcendary or any of them, I'm convinced that the
code that's written in there does allow some talk back.
So if I go up to a grave and I go, oh, that's Mary.
Hi, Mary, how are you today? Can you talk to me that there's
a chance that the spirit box is going to say the name Mary,
which is why when I go up to a headstone, I'm like spirit, may
we have a conversation? I call the spirit of spirit,
which a lot of people don't like.
They find it disrespectful. Even though I'm not coming from
a place of disrespect, I'm coming from a place of logic.
I'm saying, OK, I willingly know I'm using this device and I know
this device is infallible. I mean, I know this device is
fallible because it's made by humans that want to make money.
So even if they figured out the technology, hey, this works, but
how can we make it better? Oh, let's add more prompts.
He says a name. There's a, you know, a one in
five chance that the next thing that's going to come out is
going to spit out the name. Very well aware of that, very
well aware of that. So skepticism, skepticism,
skepticism is good. You got it.
That important? You got it.
Well, look, John, I think we should start wrapping this thing
up. Yeah, First live.
I think it went great. I'm hoping, look, we're hoping
to do more of these. We're hoping you guys watch the
podcast. We're hoping you tell other
people to watch the podcast or listen to the podcast, follow us
on social. We want your questions.
So hopefully we'll start doing this in between drops to answer
questions, see where we're going.
We got a lot of fun stuff coming.
I mean, we, we got Kathy for three episodes.
Really gives me a reading, gives John's a reading.
We take her to the fireplace room.
These are all super fun. Episode 8 is really like,
there's a lot. It's fun, man.
It's yeah, we we introduced Kathy Edward and it works out
just fine. You get a lot of fun stuff in
that one. And you know, we're moving
forward. We got a lot.
We're we're we're planning a lot and certainly in success of this
project if it works. And we hope you're along the
ride with us. Yeah, through all the kinks, as
we work out the tech and as we try and as we grow and get
bigger with this will be simulcast more than just on
YouTube, but we'll be able to simulcast it to TikTok and
Facebook and Twitter and whatever you are, whatever makes
you feel more comfortable. Right now that's only big enough
to be from here to YouTube. But soon enough, guys, soon
enough with your help. So that's it man.
Anything else everybody? Yo, thank you so much for
watching. You know, as Gary said, we're
going to, we're going to do this more frequently.
You know, we'll keep you, we'll keep you in in tune.
We'll let you know when it's popping off.
And, you know, thank you so much for watching the live version of
Splintered Spirits. It means a lot that you guys are
here. Yeah, man, it really does.
Much appreciated everybody.