1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,080 Welcome to a bonus episode of Splintered Spirits, a podcast 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,000 hosted by me, Gary and my nephew Johnny from at Santa Paranormal. 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,960 The following is from March 6th and was our first of many weekly 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,280 live broadcasts where we recap the pod and answer questions 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,520 from the audience. Be sure to like, follow and 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,960 subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and at our website at 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,440 splinteredspirits.com so that you don't miss the next live or 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,960 our next episode. Let's dive into the 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,080 conversation. It's over now. 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,960 Here's the thing dude. It's like, now we're live. 11 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:37,600 Yeah, we're live right now, it says. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,120 We've been live. We're. 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Live in the world. Yeah, yeah, that is wild. 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,440 I mean, look, guys, you know what we're going to do here is 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,720 we've got episodes 5 and 6 dropping on Tuesday. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,360 We have already dropped episodes one through 4. 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,640 And if you haven't watched episodes one through 4, I'm 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,680 guessing anybody who jumped in the second you said you were 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,680 live has seen it. Yeah, but the whole the whole 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,560 thing. Here, right? 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,160 I mean, come on, what are we doing here? 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,480 This is for you guys. The whole point of One through 4 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,760 is, if you haven't figured it out by now, is the idea behind 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,720 the podcast is to do a deeper dive on what spirits are or what 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,400 they might be trying to figure that out. 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,760 Johnny has a theory on what spirits are as we've gotten to 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,160 right out of the gate, which is that they are. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,040 Johnny, why don't you tell? Am I talking for you? 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Well, you know, most of you already know, I feel that 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,360 spirits are memories. Scientifically, logically, it 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,680 makes the most sense. You know, that's that's what I 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,840 base. You know, everything I do off of 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,640 off those theories, at least how I look at and perceive what I'm 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,160 taking in when I'm live, you know, on Santa paranormal on 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,120 TikTok. I see my son is on here making 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,040 fun of me. Yeah, kick this. 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,640 He just he called me a nerd if. He can. 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Anyone else sees it? That is my own son. 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,440 And now? What's up guys all? 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,280 Right, to go along, to go back to what Johnny's theory is, is 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,520 the reminder is so these memories are attached to the 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,960 energy that we all have. I don't know if everybody knows 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,320 there's a brain surgeon out there, but you don't have to be 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 a brain surgeon to know that we have electrical impulses in in 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,720 our brain synapses that happened. 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,480 This is a fact. I looked it up. 47 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,840 Johnny believes the memories are attached to that energy. 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,080 When we die, that energy is released and that's what 49 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:44,080 potentially these spirits are that he's talking to all the 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,080 time. OK, Yep. 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,040 So that's, that's where we're starting from. 52 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:52,720 The first two, the first 3 episodes were really just me 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,000 sort of getting a little bit of a handle on that and seeing what 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,880 John does other than beyond just what we've all seen him do live 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,920 on his TikTok. And he took me to three. 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,280 You know, we were in the cemetery for one. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,560 The first one was just an intro, the cemetery for episode 2. 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,200 And then we were in the fireplace room with the 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,240 wonderful Edward for episode 3. So Rich, realistically, what was 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:24,560 your initial reaction to not not even hearing the spirits? 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Because again, that could just be, you know, if you didn't know 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,360 any better, it could just be pre recordings, you know, it could 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,960 just be, you know, me hitting play on something. 64 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,640 Once you started hearing the interaction for the first time, 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,440 what was your initial reaction to that? 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Well, you know the the it's here's where it's hard to say 67 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,760 what the initial reaction of hearing spirits for the first 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,760 time was. It really wasn't much. 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,080 What I was most impressed with was the fact that the 70 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,120 personalities in the locations matched what you said they were 71 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,720 going to be. It was like, listen, we're going 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,200 to go to the fire release room. This this ghost is, you know, a 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,880 real pain in the ass. He's going to make fun of me a 74 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,920 ton. And when we got there, he did 75 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,640 make fun of you a ton. And I found that to be like, and 76 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,360 that doesn't and the fact that that didn't happen in other 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:26,400 places is why is the weird? That's the weirdest thing to me. 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Like that was the wait a second. Yeah, what's going on? 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,760 Like, yes, every time you're in the fireplace room, you got this 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,920 guy who's calling you an A hole or he's making fun of your 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,840 weight or he's make calling you poor. 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,280 And that is not as prolific. That doesn't happen everywhere. 83 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:50,760 It it has happened by others. But the voice was the same and 84 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,680 the the insults were the same and that is strange. 85 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,400 So let's I want to dive into that real quick too. 86 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,800 Key thing you said there. The voice is the same. 87 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,280 What what the the spirit he's talking about. 88 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:07,600 Not that everybody doesn't know. Everyone that's in this chat 89 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,920 right now knows exactly what we're talking about. 90 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,320 We're talking about Edward. OK, When I run that, that app is 91 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,840 called Ghost tube. When I run that, it's on the 92 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:23,720 dynamic setting, which now let's say hypothetically that I am 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,240 actually programming words into that. 94 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,320 Even though we all know that some of those phrases that are 95 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,560 that are in Ghost Tube that come out of Ghost Tube, you can't put 96 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,840 in because it's too many characters. 97 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Anybody that's ever tried knows that. 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,800 But let's say I were to figure out a way to get them to do that 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:48,440 and get these phrases in there. How the hell would it be on 100 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,000 dynamic setting and spit out those voices every time 101 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:54,440 concurrently with that same voice? 102 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:58,720 You know, and again, this, this is what we're going to do here. 103 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,920 We're going to deep dive into a lot of this on the on the, you 104 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,240 know, on this podcast, on the live version of this podcast. 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,440 So it I'm just adding to what what Gary was saying. 106 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,320 It's consistent, it's consistency. 107 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,560 And you know, that's just wild. And once you know the tech 108 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,360 aspect of it and know how it all works, it even gets crazier 109 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,440 because it's like, whoa, wait a minute, you know you're running 110 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,160 this on dynamic. How is this popping off this 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,440 way? Yes, the the fact that there was 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:33,120 a personality to the spirits in a location was what I found. 113 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,320 OK, that's bananas. That's really what was the what 114 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:44,000 was weird. Yeah, the other. 115 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:51,120 So from there, I realized, like, I don't know what I'm doing at 116 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,360 all. And that's what led me to want 117 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,880 to talk to, you know, for Episode 4 to get another history 118 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,280 and another perspective of someone who's been investigating 119 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:07,560 for, you know, decades. Like, OK, what are the right 120 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,960 questions to ask? What do we have to do? 121 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,360 And if our whole goal is to try to figure out what spirits are, 122 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 we can't just be going on TikTok and like doing the same thing. 123 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,000 We've got to try a lot of things and try a lot of different 124 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,160 things to get there. So that's what we did. 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,240 We tried, we're trying a lot. That's what we are doing. 126 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,840 We are trying a lot of things to get there. 127 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:35,840 So what I'm curious now with these first 4 episodes is from 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,120 you guys are what are your questions? 129 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,600 I want to hear some questions. I want to know like ask us 130 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,320 anything. Tell us like, what do you think? 131 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,640 What do you like? What don't you like? 132 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,560 What do you like in the podcast? What are what are experiences do 133 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,320 you have that maybe we can answer or touch on or that 134 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,840 contradict or support things you've heard or seen on John's 135 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,520 live or in the OR from the podcast so far? 136 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,640 So what do you want to start? What you want to start with 137 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,240 their experiences of the podcast. 138 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,920 Any anything that that'll speak to their questions, I'd love for 139 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,160 them to ask. I'm putting you all in the spot. 140 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,880 All 21 of you are on the. Spot open mic. 141 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,520 Open mic. What do you got? 142 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,200 What do you got for me? Ask a question. 143 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,840 If you don't have a question about ghosts, then ask another 144 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,840 question. Ask away. 145 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,360 Let's get warmed up. What do you want to know? 146 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,679 Godzilla. Why did you say Godzilla? 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,840 I don't know, maybe it's like I sound like Godzilla. 148 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,600 Is it like a? More like Godzooki. 149 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Is there like a delay or something? 150 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,080 I don't know what Godzilla means. 151 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:57,520 Yeah, but again. No, Now what it's doing. 152 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Come on, folks, you're leaving us hanging. 153 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Let's go. Imagine this was the TV show. 154 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,320 We'd have dead air. Dead air behind the scenes would 155 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,240 be. They'd be freaking out right now 156 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,280 in a production. Like what's? 157 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,840 Going on, here we go. Do you believe spirits visit us 158 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,480 in dreams? You want to start and then I'll 159 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,720 go. I want you to answer that I have 160 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,320 no idea. So I don't believe they visit us 161 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,720 in dreams. I believe actually that their 162 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:30,760 energy of the spirit that resonates with us is better, is 163 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,440 more commutative with us while we're sleeping. 164 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,360 So I don't believe now hold on, it's not 100%, you know, black 165 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,520 and white, you know, it could there be spirits that visit us 166 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,840 in our dreams? Other reason why I didn't want 167 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,440 to use my in my back. You're back. 168 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,160 You're back. OK, so let me say this first. 169 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,040 I believe that the majority of spirits that we experienced in 170 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,240 our dreams are from the energy that's in US already. 171 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,840 So our loved ones that have passed, because I believe that 172 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,640 we do get some of their memories. 173 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,080 We've seen this in science. We've seen this with organ 174 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,280 transplants. You hear about DNA memory, you 175 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,520 know, the works. You, you, you know this, you can 176 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,480 all look this stuff up. You know, it's not like I'm 177 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,320 pulling this stuff out of a out of a hat. 178 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,520 Like this is all, you know, stuff that's in science. 179 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,320 There's been studies on this. Could there be a percentage of 180 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,280 spirits that visit? Sure. 181 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,280 But the amount of spirits that do come to us in our dreams are 182 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,120 because their energy is already with us. 183 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,320 So that's what that's what that's what I believe from at 184 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,840 least the data that I've taken in. 185 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,800 All right, wait. I got a question that I can 186 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,120 answer very quickly. Tammy, when is Splintered Spirit 187 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,840 merch coming out? If you go to 188 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,280 splinteredspirits.com, we've got a ton of merch. 189 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,560 Have at it. Thank you for that question. 190 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:57,920 Oh, this is a good one, This one. 191 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,680 I want to know the answer to Marjorie's asking John why does 192 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:09,120 Edward hate John? So Edward hates me so much 193 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,920 because I am in his home. You got to understand something. 194 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,600 The fireplace from before I went in there was unused. 195 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Nobody used it. It was, it was like the 196 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,440 abandoned side decreping, falling apart, dirty. 197 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,600 It was just left alone for decades, decades. 198 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:35,160 This thought was, you know, undisturbed. 199 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,040 And then all the sudden I came in there and I started doing an 200 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,560 eBay store out of there. And then I cleaned up the other 201 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,360 side, which is the side you guys know so much, the fireplace 202 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,600 side. The first side I cleaned up in 203 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,280 that place was the storage side. So that just pissed him off. 204 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,720 And that's, that's why that's that's what started it. 205 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Once Edward realized, holy shit, like, you know, he's this is 206 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,760 live. There's people that are talking 207 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,160 to him, there's people that are hearing me. 208 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,960 It just, he just took it from there and went frigging ape 209 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,560 shit, you know? John, someone here is asking 210 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:19,600 this question. I don't know what this what this 211 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,560 means. Qde. 212 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,320 Yeah, you see this? Yes, I do. 213 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,920 What is QDE? So First off, QDE is a term that 214 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,840 I coined, all right. And, and it's, it's, it's, it's 215 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,640 a theory of mine. And it's based off Thomas 216 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Edison's theory of life particles and life units. 217 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,440 The theory is called quantum device entanglement. 218 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,400 And that's basically when spirit particles from 1 area are 219 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,280 reacting with spirit particles in another area and they're 220 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,520 doing it through the device. So basically the fact that 221 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,520 somebody's watching me, or in this case us right now, and 222 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,720 they're watching through their device, the spirit particles 223 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,720 here through quantum entanglement are reacting to one 224 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:17,960 another. With that said, is it hail? 225 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Hail like dimension? I have no idea if I experienced 226 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,040 that. I don't know how to answer that. 227 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,760 I guess so. Would I know if I've experienced 228 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,640 it? The, the, the common 229 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,880 experiences, the very common are headaches, feelings of 230 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,840 uneasiness, you know, nausea, things like that. 231 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,880 But those can also be explained through other means as well. 232 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,520 Obviously. Then the more extreme are 233 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:48,760 nosebleeds getting, you know, hurt, you know, passing out, you 234 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,760 know, things of that nature, the entities that you have in your 235 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,680 home because everywhere is haunted, start acting up as 236 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:58,640 well, almost like they're being affected by the stream you're 237 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,040 watching or is there is. There something going on with a 238 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,040 with those symptoms that I would know. 239 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,680 Like this is not just a headache because I'm dehydrated. 240 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:10,160 This is a headache caused by this. 241 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,240 What? Would be yeah, because every 242 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,760 time you log on and watch you would you would experience it. 243 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Well, I always say, listen, QDE you back out, you come back in 244 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,400 and severs the connection, but always make sure you're 245 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,120 hydrated. You know, you you you're eating 246 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,320 properly, you got enough sleep. You know, all these things that 247 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,480 can cause the symptoms that you're experiencing before you 248 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,800 go oh, it's QDE. You know, if you had a stressful 249 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,440 day and all the sudden you're watching my loud ass. 250 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Even if you enjoy watching me, I'm still a stress factor for 251 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,040 you. I'm still a stimulus for you. 252 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,480 It could be just my very voice and my loudness affecting you, 253 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,800 you know. So I always say, hey, listen, 254 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,920 there could be other factors that 'cause this, but if you 255 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,880 know for a fact that it's every time you watch me at a certain 256 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,480 location, then it's QD gate and you got to back out and come 257 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,040 back in. Don't back out and leave forever 258 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,680 because then you're never going to build a tolerance to it. 259 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,160 And that's the other thing. People have built tolerances to 260 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,160 it, which is wild. That is wild. 261 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,560 All right, well, I will look to answer your question. 262 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,960 It's a long way to go. I'll have to pay more attention 263 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,280 to those symptoms, hail and see if that's what I'm experiencing 264 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,800 or not. It's hard for me to tell if you 265 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,640 see me looking at the sides because I'm reading your things. 266 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,440 I'm trying to go down. The Hall. 267 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Me too. You guys, I love it. 268 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,520 I love that you're you're asking me things, Lori. 269 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,360 You asked if the Doctor on the I want to know the Doctor on the 270 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,760 last episode is wrong. Wrong about what? 271 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,760 Yeah, wrong about what I I mean, it's like, here's the thing, 272 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,800 He's been doing this for 40 years. 273 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,200 He's got thousands of investigations. 274 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,040 And when he saw what John can do and what I showed him what he 275 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:00,000 can do, he gave me a list of things that he would do to find 276 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,880 out an answer. He didn't have an answer one way 277 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,440 or the other of what John is doing. 278 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,960 He's basing his ants, he's basing his answers on his 279 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,600 experiences. What John is doing is relatively 280 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,200 new. When you're looking at A50 year 281 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,960 history of this guy's thing and John's four or five year history 282 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,080 of doing it with, you know, apps, Apps didn't even exist, 283 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,200 you know, for that long of a time. 284 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,920 That's a new thing. So he's not wrong. 285 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,480 He gave us definitions that, look, you can call things what 286 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,400 you want. We're trying to stick with 287 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,560 definitions to help us stay consistent, and I think he's got 288 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,360 good definitions of things in terms of like what an apparition 289 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,960 is and what a haunting is and what a poltergeist and a 290 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,440 poltergeist agent are. That just helps us be consistent 291 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,800 when we discuss what we're talking about. 292 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,280 There's no right or wrong to that. 293 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,720 That's. Just the way we're talking. 294 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,040 Also, I'd, I'd like to point something out too. 295 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,240 That's super important if you're being diagnosed with something, 296 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,440 right? Let's say you're not feeling 297 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,079 well and you're sick and you go and you go to get diagnosed by 298 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,359 doctors. If you go to somebody who's an 299 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,240 oncologist that specializes in cancer, they're going to see 300 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,079 cancer. If you go to a meteorologist, 301 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,319 they're going to see autoimmune. And it takes more data for them 302 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:25,560 to go, oh, wait, this might be something else like. 303 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,920 So that's also very important. It's the same thing with me on 304 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,200 my life, you know, when I'm dealing with spirits, I'm, you 305 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,200 know, listening to memories. So that's also very important. 306 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Going to this Doctor Who's been doing this for decades. 307 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,160 You know, he, he has his data. He has, you know what, what he 308 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:46,800 is basing his scientific method on. 309 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,960 And these are the perspectives that we want on the on the 310 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,720 podcast. His name's Lloyd Auerbach and 311 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,160 you should check him out, read it, you know, get all their 312 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,800 perspectives. I mean, he's he knows what he's 313 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,360 doing, by the way. All right, you ready for this 314 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,720 question? This is from I recognize this 315 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,600 name because she's a champion, but it's like she's clearly 316 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,920 smart. Are you ready for this? 317 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Look at this. If spirits memories are a 318 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,400 transfer of their energy, first law of thermodynamics. 319 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,160 Do they lose memory because their energy becomes disordered? 320 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,640 The second law of thermodynamics. 321 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,040 What? Yes, you got. 322 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:30,480 The big brain on Brie. 100 percent, 100% in fact. 323 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,080 You're saying they lose They. Lose the memory, yo. 324 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Forget about dying. Forget about dying. 325 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,720 Let's talk about the living, dude. 326 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,640 Let's say you could like if, if I remember the first place I 327 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,640 took my wife out to dinner. OK, before we were married. 328 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,720 All right, I'm going to start confusing what she was wearing 329 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,400 the first time with the second time. 330 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,600 All right? My, my shirt color is going to 331 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,560 change. Hell, even 20-30 years, the 332 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,760 restaurant might change or that memory might disappear, 333 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,840 disappear completely. It happens when we're living, 334 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,880 not just the dead. So I can only imagine when you 335 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:13,720 die what happens to the memory, especially as they scatter like 336 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,880 they must be. But that explains a lot though. 337 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,000 Well, Bree said explain so much why spirits forget who they are, 338 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,600 why they're so disoriented all the time and it and it's what 339 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,960 makes the ones that come through strong super special. 340 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:32,440 So yes, I I would have to say yes, the memories do get 341 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,040 affected. Bree's so young, she's probably 342 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,520 trying to write like a college paper on. 343 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,360 Ghost. Yeah, right. 344 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,240 It's. Like she's talking to us 345 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,480 knuckleheads about wizard in the making. 346 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,520 All right, here's. Another Oh, OK, so hold on, 347 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,640 let's let's go back to Lloyd for a minute. 348 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,600 I know what what what people meant by is Lloyd wrong? 349 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,800 And they're talking about no spirits being at the cemetery. 350 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,680 Everyone needs to remember this, and this is super important and 351 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,880 I know a lot of my first years do before me stepping into a 352 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,160 cemetery to gather data. The common conception with the 353 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,400 paranormal was that there were no spirits at cemeteries. 354 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,240 Anybody who who who dubbed themselves a professional, 355 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,880 anybody who did it as a hobby. Think about it. 356 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,640 If if they thought that spirits were at cemeteries, you would 357 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,640 have seen all the original ghost hunting shows being done at 358 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,880 cemeteries like crazy. But they weren't. 359 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,440 They were done in people's homes. 360 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,040 They were done in places of business. 361 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,480 It was. It wasn't believed that spirits 362 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,360 were in cemeteries until I started showing them that there 363 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,200 were spirits in cemeteries. But also this. 364 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Let me point this out logically when I tell the man John thinks 365 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,000 spirits are memories and then we're at a cemetery. 366 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,360 Guys, you know 2 + 2 doesn't equal 5. 367 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:54,320 You don't remember your cemetery. 368 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,320 You're never going to remember it. 369 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,640 You're never going to know it. So. 370 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,400 Unless. So there's so that you know what 371 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,520 I'm saying like there's just no way though that makes sense 372 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720 unless of in in that regard. But go ahead. 373 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,200 This is what we're trying to appear here. 374 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Can gain new memory. If spirits either gain new 375 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,360 memory, then they can remember and we know that the. 376 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:24,840 Other thing is also being is it the other idea of being spawned 377 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,400 off of a loved one? Or all a possibility. 378 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,480 That's what I'm saying. So that's, but so when while 379 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Lloyd, while, you know, Mr. Auerbach was saying, Lloyd 380 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Auerbach was saying like, well, there's no spirits at 381 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,080 cemeteries. After we tell him we think it's 382 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,120 memories, you could see why there's a disconnect logically. 383 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:49,520 And that stems from, well, where's that energy then coming 384 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,800 from to create what we're hearing? 385 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,480 And, and so let me just let me just press on what what Gary 386 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,800 said so everybody fully understands because I know you 387 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,240 guys all right, what what Gary was saying. 388 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,800 You know, what if it isn't old memory versus new memory where 389 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,960 spheres can gain a new memory? What if it was the actual 390 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,800 leftover memories of the ones that visited them and buried 391 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,440 them in the ground originally, which is a possibility. 392 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,120 That's the crazy thing. This could literally be quantum 393 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:28,600 memories connecting. So for example, if me and Gary 394 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,800 go out to a bar one night, we have the craziest night ever, 395 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600 all right? And we have a third person with 396 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,320 us, let's say, let's say his name is Manny. 397 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,960 We have Manny Manuel with us, all right? 398 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,440 And it's me, Gary and Manuel, and we're having. 399 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,120 Handsome. He's got to be super handsome. 400 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Super handsome. Manny, go ahead. 401 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,440 Super handsome, Manny. No one's more handsome than 402 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,440 Manny is. You know what I'm? 403 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,720 Saying I call him the Grim Reaper because he kills all of 404 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,280 our game right away. We want to adore any game we've 405 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,120 got. It's gone. 406 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,160 He's got so much game, we don't even have to speak. 407 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:04,840 He just points. So, so Manny, you know, we die, 408 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,400 you know, I die, Gary dies and then Manny dies later on. 409 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,640 You know, there's a chance that the reason why we're at those 410 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,240 headstones or we're in that cemetery in general is because 411 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Manny came and visited and a little bit of our energy was 412 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,800 there and then it quantumly connects almost like snaps back. 413 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200 Now think of it like this, everybody. 414 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,200 Mr. Churchwell, he's the most recent spirit that left for a 415 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,400 super long time and then came back. 416 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,320 Where did he go? Why was he gone? 417 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,600 We don't know. So anything is possible. 418 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,080 Remember, it's the theory that spirits are memory. 419 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Do I have any of those answers? No, I don't. 420 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:57,920 So it could be anything. It literally could be systemic 421 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,960 of other people's memories that are causing that to happen, let 422 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,680 alone the actual memory of the spirit going to its final 423 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,960 wrestling location. There may need to be a catalyst 424 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,680 is what I'm saying. Now, if you listen to episode 4 425 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,560 and we talk about this a little more in in the upcoming episode 426 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,960 5, and it's going to lead to the it's going to answer a question 427 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,040 that I'm about to jump on. We talk about for a split 428 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,720 second. Is John some sort of a tech 429 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:30,080 medium or some sort of a spectral AI, right, which is 430 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,240 like my sort of like, well, what's going on? 431 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,360 And I'm going to drop a I'm going to drop a dopey video, but 432 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,480 this goes to great. Gracie asked and it's a good 433 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,080 question, right? If spirits are memories, how do 434 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,200 they communicate intelligently, right? 435 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:54,080 So that's a wonderful question. So it's, it's the, the, this is 436 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,960 where the idea or what I was thinking about in terms of what 437 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,640 is spectral AI mean? And I'm dropping one of my dopey 438 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,400 videos about giving you a, a, a truncated definition of how to 439 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,720 explain it. But AI, if nobody knows how AI 440 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,120 works, I'll give you this the, the quick version of it, right? 441 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,720 It's a large language model. So information pulls information 442 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,440 from all sources, whether it's Twitter or Google or YouTube or 443 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,400 art or the library. And when you ask it a question, 444 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920 it processes that information and creates a new prediction of 445 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,600 something of a new answer, Right? 446 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:32,360 Well, what if John is able to take these imprints, these 447 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:37,280 memories, that of a certain time and place of these people, this 448 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:43,320 energy, and through the help of the tech? 449 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,560 Because that's where the voice is coming through. 450 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,440 It's he can reprocess it somehow and create a conversation. 451 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,160 I don't know if that's true, but why isn't it true? 452 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,680 Because something's happening. And if it's a locked memory that 453 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,480 can have a conversation now and how do they communicate 454 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,240 intelligently? Maybe it's because he can take 455 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,880 that, that memory and reprocess it. 456 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,840 And that speaks to one of the things that Lloyd was talking 457 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,080 about in terms of what a haunting is versus what an 458 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,880 apparition is. Whereas a haunting is an 459 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,600 imprint. It's a, it's, it's, it's just a, 460 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,240 it's a loop. It's just the energy is frozen 461 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,760 there. And it's, it's a recording, if 462 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,960 you will, not a, an entity or a being. 463 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,520 It's a recording. And maybe John can take that and 464 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,560 reprocess it as well versus what a spirit is, except for this. 465 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,960 And that might still be the case. 466 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,840 But what you're going to see in episodes, well, you're going to 467 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,440 get a taste of in episode 6 coming up, you're going to see, 468 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,280 we're going to, I'm going to meet, I sit down with a medium 469 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600 first. But then when John sits down 470 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,200 with that medium, and this is one of Lloyd's tests to bring in 471 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:05,560 a medium, what's there? Kathy also feels the spirits in 472 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,760 what they are. Do you want to jump in on any of 473 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,040 this action? You want to get in on some of 474 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,400 this? Sure, I, I, I, I would love to 475 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,280 you guys know, I have my theories on, you know, the 476 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,120 basics, like, you know, let's talk about, you know, the, the 477 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,760 recording, if you will like listen, one big trope with the 478 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,000 paranormal and unfortunately even that the scientists that 479 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,720 dive into this get caught up in is the term energy. 480 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:37,120 Like energy, like it's energy has an explanation, you know, 481 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,480 like you need like for example, you know, you hold, you hold a 482 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,200 lighter to something, right? And that item, if you hold a 483 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,400 flame next to something now on top of it, what happens? 484 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Convection, that energy heats up the item next to it. 485 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,600 Like you can explain the energy. So there's been no actual 486 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,080 explained reasons why recordings would happen, right? 487 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,840 That's like, that's where the disconnect is with that logic, 488 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:09,200 with the all these things. So, you know, I have my own 489 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,840 theories on that. Obviously you guys know that I 490 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,640 feel that we can interact with these recordings, that they're 491 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,480 more than just recordings. They are loops that can be 492 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,520 broken, which is one of the reasons why a lot of the time 493 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,920 spirits are like, yo, this is like a dream when I'm talking to 494 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,240 you because they're stuck in that loop and then all the 495 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,200 sudden you're interrupting it. However, the tech medium thing 496 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,200 that was a joke of ours like last year, like I literally 497 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,040 would like joked around that I was a tech medium because 498 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,440 everybody knows my disdain that I have for mediums. 499 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,160 I have a disdain for them big time. 500 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:55,880 However, there are people that have a gift and the unfortunate 501 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,440 ones that claim they have a gift make the ones that do seem less 502 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440 believable. But the medium that we have 503 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,040 coming on to splintered spirits is awesome. 504 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Johnny, I want to jump, I want to I want to jump in here with 505 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,360 something for to show everyone because they're going to get a 506 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,880 taste they're going to get a taste of Kathy in episode 6 and 507 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,720 Kathy gives me a reading guys and. 508 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840 Now this is this is not in the episode, right? 509 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,920 This is. Private remember if I don't 510 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,040 remember if this part made the cut, but it's good because then 511 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120 it'll be new and everything stays new and they won't see 512 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:36,360 anything twice. But Kathy gives me a reading and 513 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,160 she talks about my older brother, John's uncle, who 514 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,920 passed away. I don't want to bring the party 515 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,080 down, but I'm going to let me jump in on this, this clip real 516 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,040 quick with you guys. And then I'm going to explain 517 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,880 what she's talking about and why it freaked me, kind of freaks me 518 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,360 the hell out. So let me just see, here we go. 519 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Let's jump in. Your brother, I don't know. 520 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,440 He gives me. He takes a pack of cigarettes 521 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,880 and throws it across the room. So what is that? 522 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,480 I don't know, but he's a smoker. OK, all right. 523 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,240 Did someone try to get him to stop? 524 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,000 I'm sure everybody tried to get him to stop. 525 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,920 I don't know what that is because he's giving me a very 526 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,560 like, like an angry throw like like that kind of a. 527 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,920 OK so my brother died in a car accident. 528 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,000 He wasn't wearing his seat belt. My brother was, you know, he was 529 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240 sober. We know that. 530 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,800 How did he not see what was coming? 531 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,560 It was a head on collision, what happened? 532 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,760 And my sister and I had always said we thought he might have 533 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,480 been reaching for his cigarettes. 534 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,160 I still get chills when I think about, I don't know. 535 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,560 I don't know if that'll show up on camera. 536 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,840 I get chills when I think about it. 537 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,360 It was bananas when she said it. That was so specific. 538 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,000 Very specific. Story and it's like look that 539 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,280 it's you know, it puts a whole new light on the idea of what's 540 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,960 coming through and you'll see there's a couple other things. 541 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,840 I dropped something in the promo for six that you see that she 542 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,040 says also about my brother. He came through a lot to her, 543 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,280 which and guys, I got to tell you, I don't know how for the 544 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,280 life of me, she figured the this stuff out because between the 545 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,520 time that I reached out to her to sit down with her and by the 546 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,200 time we had, this was very short. 547 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920 I don't have a big social media presence personally. 548 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,840 You can't see any photos. There's nothing online that 549 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,440 would even remotely connect me to my brother's former social 550 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160 media. I just don't know how you would 551 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,600 connect those dots, especially some of the things that she 552 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,560 said. It was like, so it's like, look, 553 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,040 it's weird. It was weird, but yeah. 554 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640 We, well, we had a couple of those instances with her. 555 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,680 I don't know if the the the whole nativity part came into 556 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,600 it. I, I, I think I might, I might. 557 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,280 I don't know if I got into that because we couldn't, we had 558 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,400 nowhere to go with it. So it didn't have a resolution. 559 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640 So I didn't know if I any, Yeah. But that's just, it was just 560 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,120 odd. She said something that 561 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,440 resonated with the both of us. And we were like, wait a minute, 562 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,240 almost like we have a vague memory of something from our 563 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:29,160 childhoods that, you know, had to do with, with a nativity, 564 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,640 which was odd because it made us both go, wait a minute. 565 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,800 It made us both think. And then I've, I've said this a 566 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,720 million times. So, so far on my live stream, I 567 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,880 never posted the tunnel. Like I posted the pathway to the 568 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,840 hidden cemetery, which is part of that tunnel. 569 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,360 But in, in, in that episode where me and Kathy sit down, she 570 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,400 keeps going on about the tunnel, but she's not saying the tunnel. 571 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240 She's saying like the, the route, the, the train tracks and 572 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,800 me taking the train in graffiti. And that's what she's seeing. 573 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,280 And around that time, you know, the, the, it was, it was shortly 574 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840 after we saw the, the entity there. 575 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,360 So I, I, one of my best captures was there, Gary, OK, one of my 576 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,200 best captures ever was there. So it was. 577 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,640 Does that would you say here, here's something somebody wants 578 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,720 to know? Oh, wait, let's that's not it. 579 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,720 That's something else. That was something we already 580 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,040 answered that one here, this one. 581 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560 What do you feel is your best evidence you've caught so far? 582 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Hands down, it has to be the the woman at the pathway to the 583 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,440 hidden cemetery. Is that pathway the tunnel? 584 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,440 No, these are two different things. 585 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,240 No, no, no. That's, that's the tunnel. 586 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,160 So you have to go through the tunnel. 587 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,120 You have to go under and through the tunnel to get to the pathway 588 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,680 to the hidden cemetery. So hands down, because I spoke 589 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,200 to that entity of all the things I've seen and I've dealt with, 590 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,520 I've never like spoken like face. 591 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,600 I was face to face with this thing like other things I've 592 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,920 chased like this was. We exchanged words. 593 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,280 I thought she was a drug addict. She looked sunken in pale. 594 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,560 I thought she was an addict of some. 595 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,560 Short number she asked for. Cash. 596 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,560 No. No, she didn't. 597 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,159 She did it. Kind of wish she did. 598 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,000 Now I'm just playing. No, but seriously. 599 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,760 Gets lonely in the cemeteries guys gets. 600 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,120 Lonely. Yeah, it gets real lonely. 601 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:36,360 So it was just odd. And then all of a sudden now I'd 602 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,639 like to point out while this whole thing is unfolding on my 603 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:43,400 live stream, I'm arguing with my chat. 604 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560 Like literally saying, guys, that's a real person. 605 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,080 I spoke to her coming up with every reason that that's a real 606 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,920 person and not a spirit until she disappeared, you know, was 607 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,760 reappearing and and and and reappearing when she was walking 608 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,680 to insane. Insane. 609 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,080 So hands down, that's my best capture because I actually spoke 610 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,640 to her in person. I've never had that sort of 611 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,320 experience before like that. So you know what I mean? 612 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,960 You know what I mean? Yeah. 613 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,240 Yeah, for sure. Here's a here's a question from 614 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,040 Deborah. So if memory is still there, why 615 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,400 do you think that a message can't be related to the living 616 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,880 relative during an interaction? I guess maybe she's asking, you 617 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,000 know, like if ask this person something for me, I don't know. 618 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Is that what you want and want to know? 619 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,680 Deborah, you still. You still. 620 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,680 Well, let me see. So if a memory is still there, 621 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,320 why do you think that message cannot be relayed to the living 622 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,880 relative during an interaction? There could be many factors for 623 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,880 that. You know, remember, we're 624 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,120 talking about, you know, memories of the dead coming to 625 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,000 the living. We, we have no way to measure 626 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,480 that. So we have no idea exactly how 627 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,040 much of that person is coming. That's the that's the issue. 628 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,960 So there only might be a small, you know, residual part and it 629 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,480 might not be enough to relay an actual message. 630 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,760 All right. You know, that's just, I mean 631 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,360 could be one of the many reasons. 632 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,360 I'm seeing, I mean, I, I think dude, we've actually answered so 633 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,240 far everyone's question. I don't see anybody asking any 634 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,360 more questions. That's it, guys. 635 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,400 We've answered it. If you're all set, you guys all 636 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440 know everything there is to know about spirits and ghosts. 637 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,720 We've dealt, we've done it. Our work here is done. 638 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,000 Podcast is over. We've solved it. 639 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,600 People are people know about the afterlife, they're all set. 640 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,840 That's it, It's done. It's crazy, dude. 641 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,480 Anyway, that's very look, that was that was great. 642 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,720 So what what are you going to see next? 643 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:52,840 So you're going to see John and I sort of recap a lot and talk 644 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,000 about this sort of idea of what beyond that, it's just spirits 645 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:04,160 that John himself is some sort of a conduit, right? 646 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,520 So that's where also we're going, and that's also something 647 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,320 we're testing. We're not doctors, we're not 648 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,400 psychiatrists. We like to pretend we are on 649 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,600 airplanes if someone's having an emergency, but other. 650 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,120 Than I was almost a psychologist. 651 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,720 That's that's yeah, so. But no, we're not. 652 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:22,360 Here's something, here's something from Michelle. 653 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,280 She I think someone threatened her but check this question out. 654 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,240 Someone threatened her. How can someone that lives in a 655 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,640 house with you say they are going to haunt you and they 656 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000 actually do? I feel like somebody threatened 657 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,680 Michelle with like, I'm coming at when I'm dead, I'm coming 658 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,080 back at you. And now her house is haunting #1 659 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,880 Michelle move. For some, Michelle, how long did 660 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,920 they live there with you? Was it, you know, if they were 661 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,560 there for years? You know, what do I always say, 662 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,000 you know that that when your energy scatters, it's going to 663 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,400 go to the places you're most familiar with and the people 664 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:04,320 they're most familiar with so. Michelle, do you have an answer 665 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,640 for us? How long have you been haunted 666 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,000 by someone and who was it? We'll come back to Michelle if 667 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,200 she responds. Do you think Churchwell or other 668 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,880 spirits who hadn't got to see you for a while will eventually 669 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,720 remember you again? So, Jen, that goes into my 670 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:22,960 theory of old memory versus new memory, which I actually have 671 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,160 data on, you know, and I've always known it's again, it's 672 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,280 not black and white. There's, you know, different 673 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,080 spirits can remember different things and stimulus and, and, 674 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,960 and this, that and the other. But don't forget there was a 675 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960 cemetery that I disappeared for months from. 676 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,240 And those spirits had no interaction with me. 677 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,040 And they, all, the majority of them forgot who I was. 678 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,600 OK. One of them remembered who I 679 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,600 was. That was Virginia, which makes 680 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,400 sense because I left a gift at her grave, you know, and I had a 681 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,600 lot of interactions with with her and her husband. 682 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,600 Do you guys, you know, remember that from you years ago? 683 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,040 But one spirit who I also left gifts at his grave, completely 684 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,200 forgot who I was. And when I reintroduced myself 685 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,440 to him, we actually get along great when originally we did 686 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,000 not. He was known as the grumpy one. 687 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,840 That's why we left the Oscar the Grouch on his grave as a gift. 688 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,800 Like, all right, you're always grumpy every time I see you. 689 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,960 OK, funny enough, that spirit is actually the nephew of the man 690 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,280 who built this tower. So a little little side tidbit 691 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,800 there. Michelle responded. 692 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,480 She said it was your mom. Oh, yeah. 693 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,160 Well, that's why Michelle, it was your mom. 694 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920 Obviously, she lived with you. You had a somewhat close 695 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840 relationship with her. So forget about her living with 696 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,680 you. That's your mom. 697 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,840 You know, that's your mom. I mean, it makes sense. 698 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,280 Mama's haunting you. Mom's haunting you. 699 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaking of haunting, Johnny, do you want to talk about this 700 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,320 ghost story that somebody submitted to us online? 701 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,320 Yes, guys, Also yes. As a reminder, if you have a 702 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:09,400 ghost story or evidence, go to splinteredspirits.com and tell 703 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,720 us about it. Upload your photos, upload. 704 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,040 You know, you can like, let us know and we'll cover it. 705 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,600 And I'm going to cover one. We're going to talk about one 706 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,480 right now. And. 707 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,680 I'm not going to read this whole letter, but this comes from this 708 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,360 comes from one of our esteemed sort of fans. 709 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,680 Where did I put that photo, John? 710 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:30,360 It's like, all right, this comes from Jen Brown. 711 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,400 All right, I'm going to read this a little. 712 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,640 Johnny, listen to this. So she's always been fascinated 713 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,720 by life and death. And when she was little, she 714 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,560 said to her nanny, that's their grandmother, not some kind of 715 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,880 nanny rich people have, lol. That's all from her. 716 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,960 So her her grandmother says, when you die, will you come to 717 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,400 visit me to let me know? There's more after. 718 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,840 So this also speaks to the question we just got. 719 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,600 So she would always say, Jenny, if there's any way I could do 720 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,640 that, I promise I will. As I got older, my bravery 721 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,320 weighed a bit and I said, nanny, I changed my mind and I don't 722 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,640 want you to popping up at the end of my bed, scaring the crap 723 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,160 out of me. Can you give me a sign or do 724 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,120 something else that will that will let me know again? 725 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,080 She told me if there's any way she's allowed. 726 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,320 She promised she would anyway. She lost her grandmother on 727 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,320 October 6th, 2009. Her family gets together for 728 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,080 Thanksgiving and apparently like people are all about the house 729 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,680 and they left the house. Look, she went downstairs to 730 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,040 this room that she's claiming nobody was in and then she saw 731 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,600 this and I'm going to share this with you. 732 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,560 Share this with everyone, guys. You're all in for a treat. 733 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,120 There we go. There it is. 734 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,320 OK. That looks like a footprint. 735 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,360 Would you agree or not? Yes. 736 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,240 OK. And she's saying, she goes on in 737 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,840 her letter, that they measure the size of this footprint. 738 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,560 I was about to ask that. And it does not match anyone. 739 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,600 So it was about A5 size 5. No one in the house is a size 5, 740 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,440 and that was about the size of her grandmother. 741 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,920 Wait, so her grandmother was a size 5? 742 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,200 Yes, she's a lot. So it's like there's she's 743 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,600 saying, and it's the only one like it that was there. 744 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200 There was no other water, no other marks, nothing. 745 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,960 Just that. Just that interesting. 746 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,480 Now she thinks that that's her grandmother, correct? 747 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:35,400 She's wondering if it's a if it's some sort of a physical 748 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,920 apparition. Yeah, you know. 749 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,200 So that goes into what, you know, I wanted to say to 750 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,880 Michelle before we moved on to the next thing, you know, if I 751 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,840 had more to say to Michelle. Michelle, and this applies to 752 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,040 this footprint. Michelle, how do you know that 753 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,800 that was your mother that was haunting you in your in your 754 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,240 house or apartment? And how does the person who 755 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,960 submitted that picture know that that was her grandmother? 756 00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:07,720 Because it was a size 5. Was she the only person with the 757 00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:11,840 size 5 footprint ever to exist in the world? 758 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,960 You know, and how many people? And what's the history with 759 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,480 Michelle's house? See what you see where I'm going 760 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,280 with this? Do I believe that, you know, 761 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,520 with Michelle was being haunted? Yes. 762 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,560 Even though I don't have all the details, I'm going to take it on 763 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,480 faith that you were, you know, you were experiencing things 764 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,520 that you couldn't explain. And the same thing with that 765 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,320 footprint. I'm going to take it on faith 766 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,840 that that wasn't fake, that this is a real genuine experience. 767 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,320 But from all the information, all the the data that I'm 768 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,760 getting, I can't say that that was her grandmother. 769 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,360 This is not enough information. Something there, yes, especially 770 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,000 if the water got turned on by itself. 771 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,760 You know, things like that. Even though water getting turned 772 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,520 on by itself can have a scientific, actually a technical 773 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,960 reason, it's because the faucet starts going bad, which happens 774 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,240 with certain types of faucets, especially the cheaper ones. 775 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,720 But still, regardless if it was a spirit that turned on the 776 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:13,120 water, if it went into the water for whatever reason and then 777 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,880 came and left that footprint, there's no way to tell that that 778 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,960 was actually her grandmother. The same way there's no way to 779 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,160 tell that that the spirit that was haunting Michelle was 780 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,960 actually her mother. That's something that she's 781 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,800 going on because of her connection with her mother. 782 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,040 I'm going to haunt you when I die. 783 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,640 And then all the sudden she's getting haunted. 784 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,240 Of course you're going to be like, Oh yeah, crap. 785 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,400 That's mom. It might not have been Mom. 786 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,240 Same thing with this footprint. That might not have been your 787 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,120 grandma. That could have been somebody 788 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,560 else. So I just wanted to add that in 789 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,720 how they both go together. That's true, and you see what 790 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:52,560 John just did there, folks, by the way, is exactly what Lloyd 791 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,760 is doing when I show him John's stuff. 792 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:58,760 This is how it works, guys. This is how you study and learn, 793 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,920 you say? Not sure I need more 794 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,440 information. This is how it all works out. 795 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,880 This is what we're all trying to do here as we try to figure out 796 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,760 what spirits are. Dare I say that maybe we try to 797 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,080 figure out what happens when we die? 798 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:19,120 Now now, let me add this too. I guarantee if Lloyd watched a 799 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,840 couple of a week of my lives and saw it first hand and saw it 800 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,240 live and saw it happening or maybe even went with me and 801 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,720 watched it go down, he would have more data. 802 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:33,960 Of course he would. That's. 803 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,280 What he yeah, he would love it. Like they, they all want to see 804 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,680 it in person. Yeah, right. 805 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,440 Because as you know, everyone is skeptical of, you know, what's 806 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,000 you know is especially with devices. 807 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,240 I don't know what's. Very skeptical of devices and 808 00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:48,520 it's like, is it this is it that is it pre programmed? 809 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,880 Is it a thing blah blah blah. It's that's just the way, that's 810 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,400 just how everyone's going to be, right, especially. 811 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,320 With well, well, Gary, I'm, I'm skeptical of the, the devices 812 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,200 myself. That's why I don't say the 813 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,040 spirit's name when I approach a headstone. 814 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,640 I, I personally think that a lot of these companies, no matter 815 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:11,600 whether you go a ghost tube or necrophonic or, you know, spirit 816 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:17,000 talker or transcendary or any of them, I'm convinced that the 817 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,280 code that's written in there does allow some talk back. 818 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,480 So if I go up to a grave and I go, oh, that's Mary. 819 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,760 Hi, Mary, how are you today? Can you talk to me that there's 820 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,000 a chance that the spirit box is going to say the name Mary, 821 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,400 which is why when I go up to a headstone, I'm like spirit, may 822 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,080 we have a conversation? I call the spirit of spirit, 823 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,000 which a lot of people don't like. 824 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:47,880 They find it disrespectful. Even though I'm not coming from 825 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,600 a place of disrespect, I'm coming from a place of logic. 826 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,960 I'm saying, OK, I willingly know I'm using this device and I know 827 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,160 this device is infallible. I mean, I know this device is 828 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,160 fallible because it's made by humans that want to make money. 829 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,080 So even if they figured out the technology, hey, this works, but 830 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,840 how can we make it better? Oh, let's add more prompts. 831 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,280 He says a name. There's a, you know, a one in 832 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,400 five chance that the next thing that's going to come out is 833 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,360 going to spit out the name. Very well aware of that, very 834 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,160 well aware of that. So skepticism, skepticism, 835 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,680 skepticism is good. You got it. 836 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,240 That important? You got it. 837 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,920 Well, look, John, I think we should start wrapping this thing 838 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,880 up. Yeah, First live. 839 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,160 I think it went great. I'm hoping, look, we're hoping 840 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,800 to do more of these. We're hoping you guys watch the 841 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,960 podcast. We're hoping you tell other 842 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,360 people to watch the podcast or listen to the podcast, follow us 843 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,600 on social. We want your questions. 844 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,480 So hopefully we'll start doing this in between drops to answer 845 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,520 questions, see where we're going. 846 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,960 We got a lot of fun stuff coming. 847 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,360 I mean, we, we got Kathy for three episodes. 848 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,280 Really gives me a reading, gives John's a reading. 849 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,600 We take her to the fireplace room. 850 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,240 These are all super fun. Episode 8 is really like, 851 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,880 there's a lot. It's fun, man. 852 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,960 It's yeah, we we introduced Kathy Edward and it works out 853 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,960 just fine. You get a lot of fun stuff in 854 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:18,480 that one. And you know, we're moving 855 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,400 forward. We got a lot. 856 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,280 We're we're we're planning a lot and certainly in success of this 857 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,840 project if it works. And we hope you're along the 858 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,880 ride with us. Yeah, through all the kinks, as 859 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,520 we work out the tech and as we try and as we grow and get 860 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,040 bigger with this will be simulcast more than just on 861 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,320 YouTube, but we'll be able to simulcast it to TikTok and 862 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,560 Facebook and Twitter and whatever you are, whatever makes 863 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,160 you feel more comfortable. Right now that's only big enough 864 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,320 to be from here to YouTube. But soon enough, guys, soon 865 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,400 enough with your help. So that's it man. 866 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,480 Anything else everybody? Yo, thank you so much for 867 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,560 watching. You know, as Gary said, we're 868 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,240 going to, we're going to do this more frequently. 869 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,280 You know, we'll keep you, we'll keep you in in tune. 870 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,320 We'll let you know when it's popping off. 871 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:14,240 And, you know, thank you so much for watching the live version of 872 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,360 Splintered Spirits. It means a lot that you guys are 873 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,480 here. Yeah, man, it really does. 874 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,560 Much appreciated everybody.