So the first spot, Shanley Hotel, I'm in the parking lot.
I always bring a rosary. And this time I had two
rosaries. I'm just, you know, I'm season
2. I need more.
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there slowly or surely. There's a few people coming in
across the board. We're going to do another piece
today with a news reporter. Christy readers coming back on
now if you remember Karina number one, first one in on the
YouTube Christy but by default was the first one in on
Instagram, but that doesn't count.
She's our guest today. Christy is a news reporter for
News 12 out of New York in the tri-state area.
And she did. I don't know what she was
thinking. I bet you didn't think when she
went to journalism school she was going to be doing ghost
hunting. But she got herself wrapped up
in this world and I guess unfortunately for her, it's
working in the ratings as they made her do it again, you know?
So she visited 4 new places. She went to Kingsland Manor in
Nutley, NJ, The Backroom, a Speakeasy in the middle of New
York City, the Russell Library in Middletown, CT Never even
heard of those two. And the place we know very well,
the Shanley Hotel in Knapenock, New York.
So Christie's in our waiting room.
Let's give it a couple more seconds here for other people to
get in, and then we'll bring Christie in and we'll talk about
it 'cause I really, I'm curious to know, you know, now she's
getting in it. She's not like grazing in it.
Yeah, I know as she's getting it.
She's in it, dude. She's investigating and and
they're it's looking good. Like she goes there with a team
of local paranormal investigators.
You know, they she gets the history of the place.
They do it like, you know, I don't know how long they're
there probably for like a night. They do the investigation and
then she on their show, they bring in skeptics.
OK, what could this be? Right?
I really want to talk to you about that because I'm very
curious if it's changed her mind or not.
And then but so it's it she's doing real investigating.
She's out there doing real investigating and and ride
alongs with crazy ghost people like us.
What's up, Jacqueline, welcome. All right, we got people in.
I'm going to bring in Christy Reader from News 12 and we're
going to talk about her latest adventures on the haunted
tri-state. All right, cool.
There she is. Hi.
Christy, welcome back. Good to see you all.
I cannot believe we're already talking about Season 2.
I can't believe you did in Season 2.
It's like it's my first. It's it's one of those things
where I I want to know, was it a situation where the producers
were like, Christy, this worked. We need to send you back out on
four things and you were like, shit.
Yes, that's exactly how it went up.
No, I mean, so many people liked it.
So many people tuned in and maybe, you know, kudos to maybe
it was your guys's show, maybe the appearing on that.
I think it just shows that so many people have like a curious
side to all of this, you know, and whether it's the history
that brings them in or the paranormal people, or maybe it's
the skeptics. They like something, you know,
from it. But we got some really good
YouTube views on the News 12 Originals YouTube channel.
So yeah, we were like, let's do more.
And we are already talking about Season 3 coming up in the fall,
and we're gonna like double the episodes, so.
Oh nice. Well, you got yourself a a Tri
stator right here. And guys, for those of you who
don't are unaware, you can you can find all this.
Just just type in haunted tri-state on YouTube and you can
see it. It comes out of news 12 in the
tri-state area. And just because you're, you may
not live there doesn't mean you either a haven't heard of these
places or if you're interested in if you're watching this, then
you're interested in the paranormal.
So you you must, you'll like some of these spots.
And if you're just tuning in, because people sort of roll in
here on the live, we were saying that you're doing some real
investigating out there. You're doing some real ride
alongs, man. It's like, you know, you got
you're getting the in 20 minutes, you get the history.
It's really well done, by the way.
I watched and we'll we'll we'll get into it a little more in a
second. But you get into the history of
the place, you show some of the highlights from the
investigation and then you bring in this skeptical angle towards
the end of it. It's a nice it's a nice package
for sure. Yeah.
Christy, what you know, now that you're into it in Season 2 is
it's all done, right? You, you.
All the four new ones are in the can.
Last yesterday we had the last new episode air, so yeah, it was
good. What what has your relationship
and how has that changed with the paranormal for season 2?
Did any like going into this going into it the second time?
How are you more prepared? What what was your outlook this
time? Definitely more prepared.
You know, when we, I remember the first one we did, we were
all like, what's going to happen?
And I was so scared. But now I look at it more.
I mean, I've always looked at it as an assignment, but now it's
really like, you know, yeah, you're like, you know, you're
trying to get into everything, but then also you're thinking,
OK, are they getting this camera angle?
Which, which camera guy do I need to look at, you know?
And it's all organic, too. Nothing's like, you know, so
it's like, I got to look in the moment.
We don't want to miss anything. So I feel like I'm looking at it
more of like, you know, from last season to this season, I'm
looking at it more of like, OK, how can we make sure we're
telling the story? That's what's happening here,
you know, in the moment better. But then the paranormal side.
I'm getting freaked out. I will have to say I talked to I
was talking to our social media crew and they were like, hey, do
some videos where like, you know, behind the scenes, people
really want to see this stuff. I'm like, what?
So the first thought. Shanley Hotel in Hudson Valley.
John, you're probably familiar. Well, yeah, Gary, you too, John.
'S very familiar with it, he goes.
There all the time. So I'm in the parking lot and
I'm telling everyone, OK, this is what I keep in my bag.
This is what I bring to these things.
And I always bring a rosary. And this time I had two
rosaries. I'm just, you know, I'm season
2. I need more.
She's got Jesus in her pocket. Let's go.
So I'm pulling out the the rosary and I'm looking at the
camera like, oh, here are the things I bring.
And as I'm pulling it out, the crucifix on the rosary falls off
and I'm like, and then I like, stopped the video.
I should have like kept the video going, but I wanted to
find it. And I found it and I put it back
together and then the next video was like, not today.
I'm bringing this in. Not even Jesus wants to go into
the Shanley Hotel. So I was pretty that was that
was scary. And then we like finally had
something happen where an object was moving and that really
freaked me out. That was an episode 2 at the
Kingsland Manor and. Is that the the the the portrait
right? The portrait, yeah.
And we were upstairs, you know, just opening a portal.
And at the same time downstairs, like the producer ran up and was
like, you guys, there's a picture movie.
And I was like, what, like on the wall?
And you know, of course, you're like, they looked around.
It was a cold night, but there weren't any vents.
You know you're trying to like, I was freaked out.
So if you were gonna rank like your skepticism on a scale of 1
to 10 in Season 1 did that, where would it wind up in Season
2? That's a good question.
I don't know. I feel like it's, yeah, I guess
it's pretty equal, you know, yeah, I guess, I guess, yeah.
I, I think I was always scared. I think I was just so scared
that I didn't even want to like, really delve into everything in
the first season. Like I was so guarded where now
I'm like a little bit opening up, but I'm still like, I, you
know, whether I, you know, whether I think I hear something
or not, I'm just like, I don't want to bring anything home, OK.
That's made. But that's a belief, right?
That's a real belief. Do you feel what did you see?
I know you, we talked about, you just said it like the picture
moved. Was that the most unexplainable
thing you saw in the season? Yeah, yeah, I think, I think the
picture moving. Yeah.
That was something that was like, what?
How did that happen? You know, like you can't.
Yeah, there were no vents and, and it was something we couldn't
really get into in the episode just 'cause, you know, timing.
But we did do some social posts on that.
We had one of those heat guns, you know, or the temperature
monitors. And we were whenever we, you
know, if you put it on an object, you know, and not living
object, it would just be green. But anytime we put it on that
picture, it was red. And that freaked me out.
Something's going on there. Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, yeah, a thermal gun. I should I think a.
Thermal. Yeah, yeah, sure.
I'm still still learning on the lingo, you know, but.
But that's usually interesting, right?
Because it's usually the red. Does the red represent there's
heat there? Yes, yes.
And then when we would touch our like if we would touch it, it
would go green, which is weird because your hands on it, you
would think red because the person.
So that was just that was an odd night.
It was and it was like one of the coldest days of the year.
We were doing it and in this season 2, I think you see
there's a lot of more raw moments.
I think we, you know, like we all, all of us, you know, we're
all, you know, the news background.
So I think we, we were always like very polished on
everything. But then we realized like some
of the raw moments are what make it so in, in that night when the
picture was moving, we had this woman with us, Brianna.
She was a part of the paranormal team and she's an empath.
And so sometimes things get really heavy for her and she
just has to like step outside. Yeah, she started crying out
there. What?
Yeah, she started crying out there.
She like ran out. And, you know, I think maybe in
the last season we would have just been like, oh, gosh, you
know. But I was like, guys, get the
cameras, you know, I literally went over to our crew was like
eating dinner, like the pizzas, you know?
And I was like, guys, get your cameras, you know?
And so we ran outside. You can hear in our audio, it's
like, who has a cold, you know, because it's so cold out there.
But I think moments like that, even though it's not perfect,
you know, it's not like we got the tripod out and we set up the
lighting and everything. I think that is what really kind
of pulls viewers in because they're like with us in that
experience. So that was a good that was a
crazy night. And that's good reporting too.
I mean, that's good journalism. I mean, you want to get there,
record it and capture it and just try to do it.
And that's a lot of this time in this space.
You want that because when it's edited and over produced, then
you're going to start getting like, oh, it's you know, it's
faked. You know, people don't like it.
So it's it is weird that the amount of coincidences, what I
like about. Well, before I get to that, what
about your crew this time around?
Is it the same crews you had in season 1?
No, we upped it. We're moving on up.
Look, we have more people. Actually, we there was this one
shoot, we have like 3 photographers and we're like, Oh
my gosh, we never have this. But yeah, we have more people,
you know, just helping us get all the angles because they a
big thing was like, we want Christie's reaction to all this.
People keep telling me they're like, I just want to tune in to
see how many faces you can make sure.
So yeah, so we opt the crew and we all go out and yeah, it's I
think that really helps to having all the different angles.
So we'll have like, you know, a producer stay down with, you
know, one group and then another group.
So that that's been, you know, that's been, it's nice to have a
lot of people on the project. Now, were any of them skeptics?
And how are they handling all of this?
Well, one photographer, Mike, he, he had always wanted to go
like on a shoot, but his schedule hadn't allowed it.
And then so he went with us to like, I think almost all of
them. But he when we went to the
Shanley Hotel, he was getting a shot and going.
He's really creative with shots. So he was like going up the
stairs and he felt like somebody like kind of pushed him like it
like kind of, you know, in and that was like wild and.
Going up to the the 2nd floor to the third floor or the 1st floor
to the second. Floor.
Yeah, it was. It was like the first floor to
the second floor where there was like a brothel area.
OK. OK.
So that's the other. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the the addition, the Shanley.
So that was that was really freaky.
And then we had one of our other photographers, John, have a
really like emotional connection to one of the shoots when we
were at the house where the picture was moving.
He, you know, I, we were in the basement where it was like
Speakeasy at one point in time. And we were asking different
questions kind of toward, it was the end of the night.
We were asking questions kind of towards like the people that
live there, like, OK, you know, I guess apparently money might
have been hidden there. You know, where's the money,
this and that. And then, you know, I said, oh,
does anybody else want to ask a question?
And then John, he kind of, he started to ask, you know, he's
like, mom, if you're there, his mother had passed.
And he, you know, started having, you know, answers
started matching up to the questions he was asking.
And, and he even shared the clip with his family.
And they were like, that almost sounds like her voice.
So to see one of our crew members have this like touching
experience and you know, whenever I, we've done all of
these, when you talk to the paranormal team, they always say
that that's like a big reason why they do what they do.
It's when they can connect family members to loved ones,
you know, that have passed. And so to see him have that
reaction, you know, it was that was that was like the first time
our crew had gotten that deep, you know, And even when we were,
you know, putting it all together and editing it, Denise,
one of the producers, you know, like I came over to her desk and
she was tearing up even because, you know, it was, you know, it's
like we all spend so much time together and to see somebody
have that, you know, it was and for him to want to share it for
the show, too, I thought that was that was neat.
Well, we always hear a lot, you know, you have to really be open
to receiving in order for this kind of activity to happen.
So then, John, just tell me if I'm wrong here.
But it seems like when you have a guy like this who's in this
kind of a, a state, right? He's still grieving over his mom
and it, and these things happen. It, it, it, it makes more sense.
It's, it's not as, it's not coincidence, you know, it's not
just he's open. You know, he's it's definitely
not coincidence, but one and listen, sometimes I I can be the
villain for the things that I say when it comes to the
paranormal. This might be one of those
times. There is a chance and a very big
chance that that wasn't a family member.
There is a very big chance that that was something pretending.
And you know, a lot of these entities like to invoke emotion
out of humans for whatever reason.
It could be because they want to experience it, because they're
feeding off it. There could be many different
things that can happen. So it's easy for people get
swept up in the idea that a loved 1 is coming through, even
if answers are matching up. However, it all depends on those
answers and the questions and repeated events happening again
to be 100% sure. So yes, being open 100% but also
you. Know, but also remember we're
from New York. We're talking.
About We're all from New York, right?
We don't trust the living. Yeah, we don't trust the.
Living. We don't trust the living, so of
course we naturally assume that all these people that are dead
are like, is this guy trying to pull some shit over on me?
And we don't trust them either. So true.
That's a. That's an.
Interesting take though, John. And now I'm going to be now I'm
more scared because are we is is it a demon trying to trick us?
OK. Well, that's the thing the, the
all right, So the a demon, of course, anything is possible,
right? The way I like to look at the
paranormal is probability versus possibility.
What's more probable? What's more possible?
And it if if it wasn't a family member, then it was just a
spirit pretending to be 1. Assholes alive are still
assholes when they're dead. It's true.
That's kind of the thing that we always talk about, Like some
people are just jerks and their jerk, their spirits are jerks,
and I mean more jerks than not. And it's possible that a spirit
could be lying or it could be angry or it could be toying.
And that gets taught that gets tossed into the into the demon
bucket. When, when find the law.
Yeah. When, when it comes to cool
things like that. Regardless, there were questions
being asked and responses were happening.
That's the take away for me, right?
Like questions were asked, direct responses were happening,
which is amazing in itself. And then it poses the question,
what are we speaking to? Yeah.
Christy, in the, in the four places you went to this time,
was it, did you? I didn't cause I've only seen
the two. I only saw the Shanley and the
kings and the King of the man. What for the other two and for
all four of them really did you, was there a difference in the
type of gear and equipment you used to try to get different
reactions or was there certain things that are more noticeably
different in one? Like something moved in this
place. We heard more voices in this
place. We felt colder in this place.
Like what was the vibe for all these?
Locations, yeah, we used different equipment like the oh
and the wait, our equipment and the paranormal equipment both
were different. We finally got like a night
vision camera for this season, which was really cool.
That's cool, yeah. Nice to have a budget.
And then so that was our different.
But yeah, usually on all these different, you know, that's kind
of another unique point. You know, the paranormal teams
are all different and how they do their things.
You know, we have one guy who sketches what comes to him.
So yeah, yeah, right. Richard Michella.
So the other two, so you mentioned the two, the other two
were the backroom Speakeasy, which is in New York City,
actually the the Lower East Side.
That was so cool to go there. And 9 Lives Paranormal went
there and they brought the SLS camera.
And at that there were a lot of stick figures, you know, moving
all around. So that was that was different.
And then the other one was the library up in Middletown, CT,
which immediately already I was like Ghostbusters, obviously.
Like anytime I'd walk down an aisle, I'm like, oh.
You're looking for an old woman? Yes, I.
You're waiting for an old woman to turn on and go.
Yeah, yes. So so.
Christy, out of all the places, out of all the places, which one
freaks you out the most? I think Shanley, because we
actually stayed the night there. Oh, OK.
Which room did you say? The the the men's quarters.
Where? Oh, you stayed in the men's
quarters. You stayed in the.
Yeah, they were like women are because they as we were touring
the whole hotel, I was like, this seems the least creepy.
That's how the other one was like apparitions were seen here
and there. And the only one in that one
though, like, oh, somebody's shoes moved around.
I'm like, that sounds like. And then of course, I was like
not staying there alone. And honestly, I don't think I
would have stayed the night, but it was a really far journey.
And the whole crew is like, well, let's stay.
And then I'm like, I don't want to be the one person that's
like, am I going to go home? I'm scared.
I went home, Christy, I went there with him and I left.
There was some like there was a weird noise in the room.
I was there for a couple hours and I'm like, dude, I'm getting
the hell out of here. I didn't I had to go to the
bathroom so bad in the middle and I I'm like, I'm not going to
get get up and we even. And they were like, are you
comfortable with us putting a camera like on you while you
sleep? I'm like, yes, I want to
document it that I did this. So and it I, you know, it didn't
really pick anything up, but yeah, me and two other producers
stayed in that room. So and we, that was a long night
of filming too, right? We didn't.
You know, I get a lot, a lot of stuff at the Shandling when I
go. Like a lot, a lot of
conversations, a lot of noises, disembodied voices.
The one area that everyone is always telling me to check out
is the gentleman's corners and the one area where I get
absolutely nothing. It's probably the most boring
part of the stream. It's the gentleman's corners.
And I tried every time, you know, and Kelly's such a
sweetheart. Kelly's like John, try this, do
that. And it's just I, I, it's so
strange. The rest of the place is like a
lightning rod. The rest of the place, no matter
where I go, if I go into the seance room, if I go upstairs,
if I go into the brothel, you know, all over the attic, going
all over the place. It it's.
Because you're no gentleman. You got to go there dressed as a
tuxedo Next time, maybe. Yeah, right.
I go with a cut off T-shirt and. But wait, we, we jumped ahead
because I don't think, Chris, I, I really kind of, I want to know
the answer to that. The first question I asked,
which was, you know, did you experience like, did a certain
place give you a different experience or, and how was that?
Or was it just generally the same voices coldly like, you
know, in every place? No, no.
I mean, I think each place was different.
I think that the yeah, like Shanley, it was more yeah.
I feel like the voices we heard a lot of like, like it was
saying my name, like Christy, then the picture moving at the
other place. Then, you know, I think each
place it was like a little different.
The the library, it was light going off and oh, and we were
trying to get into this tower like all night in the library
and she had the right code and it wasn't working.
We're like, well, we'll come back.
She tried and tried and we're like, oh, we really want to get
in there and film. And then like, all of a sudden
it just like let her in. And I'm like, that's weird, you
know? So, yeah.
So things like that. I was like, that's really oh,
and then in that part too, yeah. In so yes, everything was
different. There was like something
different, a take away from each place.
But in that part as well, the library episode, when we were in
the basement, the, a, a big team of the library came with that
came to watch, you know, the, the shooting, which was really
fun to like have them there and they could, you know, answer
questions. But we were all downstairs and
we were trying to, you know, talk, communicate.
And then all of a sudden they came up and they're like, hey,
we're hearing something. They heard like a handle
jiggling. And so we're like, that's weird.
And then when I was taping it and aside, like, you know, kind
of like kind of a recap of what happened, I heard it too.
And we, it was just like three of us down here.
And one of the producers, Jenny, who I love, she's like, well,
let's let's go over there. I'm like Nope, no, no.
It's like, has Jenny ever seen a movie?
You don't go where you hear the noise.
It's like, has she ever not seen?
I mean. Unless, unless you you do what I
do, then you run right towards it, you know?
That's the whole point. I think Jenny's even watching
tonight too, so shout out to Jenny.
So she she. Shout out to her, but it's like,
come on man. Like watch a movie.
When you hear the noise, go the other way.
But that's what good TV is, and she knows it, and she makes me
go. You know, God love her.
Another big part of the show is this.
You're talking to these skeptics.
Yeah. So I love them.
So, yeah, tell me, tell me what that's like for you.
So you just have got, do you film it?
I I assume it's filmed linearly. So it's after you're all done,
then you gather, you take a look at the oven, then you sit with
them and say you show them what you got.
Yeah. Does that, what's that
experience like for you? Is it a, does it bring you back
to earth or does it make you take the wind out of your sails?
Because they're buzz kills about the whole thing.
Like what's the vibe when you sit down with them?
They're. Really great.
You know, I, I now, you know, like we know them and
afterwards, you know, in between takes we get, you know, we know
each other and, and honestly like that, that's a lot of
people's favorite part of the show because they, you know, for
some people, they're like, yes, now bring in these people who
are going to set everyone straight.
So, you know, so obviously I think it's a crucial part to
have them. I think they bring up some good
points and they're kind of making me think, OK, next time
around I need to make sure I do this, this and this to like be
like, well, I did that or I looked for that, you know, like
just like the picture when it was moving.
We're like, OK, well, are there any events surrounded?
Are there any this and that? You know, so I always think
that's, that's interesting. And you know, they have a good,
you know, they're, they're funny too.
They're really, you know, and we should, yeah, we, we basically
like bring the best clips that we think.
And then, yeah, sometimes I am like, really.
But I like their take on it. You know, I think it's good.
I think it's it's important, you know, especially we.
Like skeptics? Listen, we like Scott.
We've had a couple skeptics on the show.
So you know, you can't. I guess my biggest issue with
skeptics is that they do not have a criteria to be convinced
otherwise. Nothing will ever convince.
Nothing will and that to me is a as is as stubborn A belief as
anything else. It's not.
And we talked about this a lot in the show, right?
Like if you're a science, like if you're a medical doctor and
you're in the United States and you're dealing with a medical
doctor in, you know, just pick a nation on the other side of the
world. You can send them the reports
that you've done on your study. You can say we've done, you
know, a 10,000 person test. We've done double blinds.
We've done this, this and this. Here's the results that doctor's
going to look at this peer reviewed study.
There's a set of criteria that scientists have and they'll say,
well, I guess this is the way this they did it, it works.
You know, they're not going to be like bullshit, you know, and
there's nothing in this fringe science of in the paranormal
world that will convince them other than unless they see it
themselves with their own eyes. And as one And like Ben, we had
a guy Ben Radford on great guy, like really smart, good look
goes on investigations, wants to be convinced, but he's even said
he's like, look, unless the the grandfather clock lifts off the
ground and flies around me and I can figure out why that's not
happening, I'm not he's not going to believe it.
And I'm like, well, that's I mean, you know, we're talking
about a a voice or when someone says Christy, and you've never
been in this place before, you know, and why did that happen
not once, but twice? And it's like, you know, yes, we
could probably explain it to sign into something, but isn't
that happening a weird occurrence?
And can't we give some kudos to that?
And and that's, that's my thing with them.
It is. So with your crew, Is there
anything about them that that you think would ever change
their minds from what you show them or would they have to be
there to be convinced? What do you think?
I don't know, we've talked about like, oh, do we bring, you know,
do we bring them along to, to something?
But then there's the logistics of like, it's already hard
enough to schedule everyone's schedules.
Yeah, sometimes I have. I'm like, what do you need?
But yeah, maybe it is just the moment you have to be in.
But I do think it's important to get their side, you know?
I'm not against it because they certainly bring up other things.
I just say they're just on fun. I think it's very easy.
The thing is, they. Are really fun people though.
No, no, no, I don't mean that. I mean sceptics in general.
I mean debunkers in general. Right.
Like it's because the whole thing is, I know what they're
going to say. Yeah, that's for me.
I they're just going to say no, like every, no matter what I
ask, they're going to say no. It's not this, right?
So they're so for me, it's always that's a predictable
thing. And I get, I might, you know,
they'll just come up with a reason with it and let it and
that makes it unfun. It's like I want to see the
unknown, right? I want to, I want to know what's
going to happen and I want to, I like hearing what it could be,
what it might be, but it's definitely, we don't, we can't
be definitive about it. Right.
I also don't mind hearing no and having a good reason for the no.
Yeah, and they've opened me up to a few things.
I'm like, OK, I didn't like the SLS camera.
I didn't realize that was it's a gaming device.
And I was like, OK, you know. And then I'm like, but then of
course I'm like, but it was showing the figures where there
wasn't anything. So I'm like, well, how do you
explain that? You know, so I guess there is a
follow up, but I, you know, I, I take something away.
There's been a few times where we've showed them stuff and
they're like, this was better than I thought.
They'll say that. And I'm like, you know what?
I'll take that. Take that.
Take care. What?
Yeah. Have you, what have you pushed
back on? And even if not verbally out
loud to yourself, like, no, man, I was there.
That was weird. Was there a moment in the show
where like they said, this is this?
And you're like, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, a few times I will
like, if it's ever an experience that one of our crew members
have, I'll always be like, look them in the eye and tell them
they didn't hear that, so we'll do that.
And, you know, because it is, it's.
Yeah, there's a few times, yeah, where you're like, but I was
there. It was like, so I was so scared,
you know, and I think that's like the whole part, you know,
they're always like, Christy, push back.
I, I, you know, sometimes I'm like, oh, you know, I'll just go
with it. And they're like, no, we've
really got to, you know, go back and forth with them.
So that's always been really fun.
Do you feel in these in these different locations now?
Did you do you get the history of them before you go?
I assume so you sort of know what you're walking into.
Yeah. Do you think knowing that
history, this might be a hard, I don't know how to answer.
This might be a tough question to answer because do you feel
going into these places automatically changes your vibe
about going in? Like, you know, the Shanley had
bootleggers and there was brothels and like he had died in
a well versus you're going into a library where it might be, you
know, it's not like 27 bodies are in there.
You know what I mean? Like there's a different, you
walk in with a different expectation.
Did you think that creates a different experience for you?
I could see what you're saying, but to me, if somebody just says
like, Oh yeah, that place is haunted already, I'm like, you
know what I mean? So this doesn't matter.
I'm just like on edge like anything.
And that library they like had a lot of the lights off.
That was I would on all these things.
I always on all these shoots, I'm always paired up with
somebody. I'm just like fine, I like won't
go anywhere on my own that like and except for the bathroom and
even then I'll try to hold it all night well.
It it, it's funny you say it because that is actually my
biggest issue with the paranorm. You say the word haunted and
automatically a place is, you know, scary and freaky.
But in reality, there are a bunch of places that are, what
I'd like to say, beautifully haunted.
You know, the summer's mansion down in Cape May, the Tarry
Townhouse Estate and in in Tarrytown, you know, the Ride
Playland, the Boardwalk, you know that whole, you go to those
places and there are so many different spirits and there's
activity and there's conversations to be had.
Nothing scary, nothing evil, nothing horrible.
It's still haunted. It's just not pushing down the
stairs. Haunted.
Yeah, You know that's. The.
That's the difference. If they said hey, we're going to
a place where, like demons, I would go.
No, right? But yeah, beautifully haunted.
I could see that, you know, it's just spirits trying to get
through, you know? I keep telling John, it's like,
why can't someone find me like a Four Seasons?
That's haunted, you know what I mean?
Like why is every place haunted? Like cold, dark, like abandoned
and asylum through. What I'm saying rotten pretty
places I've ever gone to. I've listened.
Going to the Summers mansion, Excuse me, the southern mansion
in Cape May at Christmas time is wild.
What makes even more wild is when the spirits are just so
highly active, playing with the decorations, having
conversations about people being there.
Same thing with the Tarrytownhouse estate.
You know, go to the Tarrytownhouse Estate.
Just being in there, the place is beautiful.
Hearing the spirits talk about the history and they do, they
move objects in there. They'll knock on the door.
They'll, you know, they'll play with the doors.
You know, just your wild stuff. And these are beautiful places.
Well, let's talk about these four places that she's trying to
promote though, first and foremost.
Well, no, I'm taking notes season.
Take notes. See, John's got a ton.
John might be a pop up season 3, we don't know.
Now the Shanley, the Shanley is open as a haunted hotel like
they are. The Shanley's business is being
a haunted hotel, right? That's their that's their angle.
It is Kings. Is that what Kingsland Manor is?
It's sort of a tour, like that's sort of an architectural.
This it's more of like, you know, a cool old estate.
They give historical tours. I think people can have like a
party there, you know, rent things out so.
But it's, but it is meant for, it is just for visiting.
In that sense, it's not a function.
It's not like it's functioning as something else and then it's
also haunted. Yeah, I mean, I they do do tours
like daily or I think weekend tours like hey, you know the
history of this place. But and then yeah, they have the
the. Oh, so they do both.
They have like history tours and.
I don't even, I don't even know. I think it's just paranormal
teams that will go. I don't think they do haunt it.
But you know what, I'll have to look into that.
I thought I knew. It, but then what?
But then, like the library in the backroom, is the backroom
still open as a? Bar OK so the library oh also
that library packed on a Saturday night like we went
there on a Saturday night it was like closing time at like 5 I
think we got there and it was so many people there.
It is like the place to go, which is great.
I love. But like for what?
Like to study people like to really read books or they.
Books they have different programs giant chess board I
mean you got to go to the Middletown library and there
were so many people like there on a Saturday big children's
department. So I even brought my kids inside
for that one. We I stayed the night, you know,
in a hotel and but the kids, you know, so they, they and of
course they were so scared. I don't want to go outside.
I sound. Scared.
Yeah, of course they're scared. You're just going to be we're
not even started. There's people like still
checking out books, kids, you know, So you know, that was the
their expectation. Meanwhile, the guest reader is a
spirit now. Yeah, exactly.
But the Backroom? Oh, I want to spend some time
talking about that. The Backroom is a Speakeasy in
New York. But like a real Speakeasy, you
know, you hear it's. Still functioning.
There's still an open bar like it's still an opening
functioning bar. Yeah.
So it was the back of Ratner's, which was a deli and it it, you
know, so there was the deli and then in the back there was this,
you know, the back of Ratner's. And it was a Speakeasy.
And I mean, some big names from Prohibition era would, you know,
were said to have frequented there.
And the owner was great. He, you know, told us all about
the history. He knew so much 'cause he, you
know, he knew the family and you know, when he took over and all
of that, you know, you know, so he knew a lot of the history
beforehand, but that place was really cool and so popular as
well. So it was shut down for a
private event that day. We got in there early and then
the private event was happening, but we were trying to tape
different things and you literally have to go in between.
You really have to know where you're going.
It's like in between two buildings and then you go in
this gate and you go down some stairs and then you go up like,
it's a a lot to get to. And we were trying to tape
different things and people would knock and they're like all
dressed up. They want to come in and we're
like, oh, I'm sorry. They're like closed.
And they're like, really. And I'm like, I don't even work
there. I'm like, I'm sorry.
And you know, some people are even tourists and they're like,
we only have one more night. I, you know, me.
I'm like, oh, well, maybe we should come in, you know, But we
were, we were busy doing stuff. But it's popular.
And I was talking to other people too.
And it's a beautiful place. Like a Victorian typesetting.
They serve their drinks and tea cups and they have a fire.
We actually went there on Friday the 13th.
And then there's a backroom to the backroom.
So you push this bookcase and then you're in that area.
That's fun. Oh, and the amount of
celebrities that have been there too.
Pearl Jam apparently like opening night maybe of that bar.
Pearl Jam's been there, Adele, like all these people.
So that was a really cool experience that so many and I
don't even know if everyone that goes there knows the haunted,
you know, so so that was really cool.
That is cool. I like that.
Yeah, it seems haunted. Yeah, I mean.
Like that seems like a place. Yeah.
Right. I don't know about taking your
kids to a haunted library though.
Someone's going to call CPS on you as long.
As they're learning, as long as they get some education.
And why not, right? Bring your kids to work day.
It's like that's not what they thought.
They thought they were going to like the news and see like a
Newsday. Maybe ride around with some cops
or something, like mom's a journalist in the city.
It's like, no, no, we're going to Middletown.
We're going to go to this library.
Scott goes to have fun. They.
Have fun. You go over there and they had
more fun. Over there, kids.
Yeah, the Hilton, we, we stayed at some Hilton with a pool, an
indoor pool. They were like all about that
pool. They still talk.
About Oh, sure. Well, this is very exciting,
Christy. I mean, it's, it's OK.
Here's I want to ask you this and it's we actually, this is
the first time you were on and I'm gonna ask you again.
And I don't, I don't, I don't remember your answer.
So I'm gonna have fun going back and looking at it.
So, but I like to ask this question to begin just to get a
baseline for where everyone's coming coming from.
Christy, what do you think spirits are?
You get right into it. You get right into it.
Yeah. Well, I guess I've always
thought it's a sort of presence. I think, you know, initially I
thought a spirit is like, Boo, you know, you see something, I'm
picking up a bottle. But the older I get, and then
probably definitely after doing this project, I feel like some,
you know, it can be different things.
For a lot of people, and especially the people I've met
through this project, it can feel really, you know, heavy at
times. A spirit, a feeling, maybe a
touch. You know, so it means something
to different people. But what does it mean to you?
I guess a spirit, I would say a presence that you just can't
explain. Now that you've done this again
and there's some time between the first time has, can you tell
me what do you think spirits are?
Oh, well, I thought I was like, I can't.
That's the question you asked. What do I think the spirits are?
And I think. Maybe we'll see.
I think spirits are, I would say something from the other side
tried to communicate. All right, so there's another
side. Now there's another side, right?
And. Christy's like now she's saying
there's another side. No, but it's interesting, right?
The more you the more you get into it.
And this is a bad word. And I don't mean to use the word
coincidences because I I agree with John there.
It's not, but you start to see these things and these patterns
and these quote UN quote coincidence and it be you start
to realize like what it it's just too often it's just it's
you know, it's like, how can that be A to be a coincidence,
to be a coincidence? But it's, you know, why is this
happening here now then, you know, with this person, with
the, you know, why, why did your cameraman was who just lost his
mother having these, these moments, these answers, you
know, it's crazy. Yeah.
Why? That's OK.
Why is it that we go on this show or, you know, why is it
that we get all these recommendations of places to go
and then things actually happened to us there?
You know, that's wild, you know, and, and a lot of it, like when
we were in the library, we were in this one section for a while
and nothing was happening, you know, so sometimes there's a lot
of sitting and waiting and, you know, now maybe you have that
happen too. And so we were like, OK, we'll
move on. And I'm like, oh, is this going
to be the place where we're like, we need to book another
place? But then stuff started
happening. We wouldn't you know, it was.
Well, that's I, I look at that as part of the, as part of the
experience, right? If you go, if you go, if I go to
a location and every time, every time, it's just like high
activity, especially a location that I don't have control over,
I'm going to get suspicious. I'm going to be like, wait a
minute, what's going on here? What's going on here?
Who's, who's pulling the string somewhere, right?
No, seriously, it's just like the way it is.
So like it, it's good to go to some places and have it be
sometimes quiet. You know, something will still
come through, something will still do something.
But it's great data because I look at it all as, you know,
data, taking it in and whatnot when I do my documentation.
Christie spoils. She's like, I want some ghosts.
I got we got the crew. I want things moving.
I've been to the best haunted places in the tri-state area and
we've had some shit happen and I don't.
Middletown, CT you better, you better deliver the goods.
I'm in New York City, we're in the big leagues.
You're going to, you want to step up and come to the show,
you better start shaking some books off these shelves.
And then she's going to bounce and she's going to bump them and
bring on another another location.
This is New York. We don't mess around with
Middletown unless they bring the goods.
There is this one, the one of the first when we had filmed it
was another Connecticut one and they were like, if you're here,
drop this book. I was like, Oh my gosh, that
book drops. I was really afraid then, but
now I think I'm more open. I'm like, OK, well, I got all my
friends here. But yeah, season 3 we're we're
scouting places already. We've heard like Haunted
Lighthouse, we're looking into a lot so.
Cool. Yeah, amazing.
That's well, Christy, look, I, I, I want to thank you for
coming back on telling us about heart to tri-state.
It's a really it's a really good series you guys make.
I mean, it is, it's well done and I think.
And one of the best areas for it.
One of the best areas for it and it and it it it's got it.
The skepticism angle, even though, you know, I question it
and I question those guys. It's the right angle for a news
version of this world, right? It's a well done piece.
It's what makes it different than every other ghost show.
It's experiencing it through your eyes as as a new person to
the space. It's it's well done in that way.
It's like, like I said, you get the history, you get the
experience and you get some answers at the end of you know
what if like what could it be? Which is what a balance, which
is what you expect to watch a paranormal show coming out of
the of a news station or what you'd hope to expect.
Think you guys do a great job. We love having you on and I
really thank you for giving us your time again today.
Oh, and we're getting ready to have yeah, no, and we're getting
ready to have a marathon because it coming up, it's like halfway
to Halloween. And so we're going to do like
all 8 episodes that we've aired. They're going to air on News 12.
You can watch us on the streaming into TV.
That's a news station we have. So there are lots of channels
and ways to watch that marathon. Can you believe Halfway to
Halloween's coming up? It's goes to, it's crazy how
fast we we lose. The school's almost done.
It's like it's nuts, right? We got to get into that whole
thing. All right, Christy, thank you so
much. Thank you.
Thank. You so much it was remembering
you on again. We'll, yeah, we'll anytime you
want, just let me know. And you just leave that browser
window open until it says upload complete and, you know, keep
those attachments away. Don't bring them home.
Well, thank you so much guys. All right, we'll see you.
She's fun and hopefully you'll get on, you'll get on board with
one of those in the near future and hopefully she'll give you a
call because I think, you know, you've got some of those.
You never know. You never know.
That'll be a good one. Yeah, let's.
I would also. I don't.
I would. Also think it'd be cool to tag
along right like and and not instead of going to like one of
the spots I always go to go to a brand new spot with them.
Almost like, you know, like they're bringing in an
investigator on their team type deal.
She's bringing it like she mentioned, it's funny, like, you
know, we, we saw, we know Scotty, we know who Scotty the
medium is. You know him with Scotty.
We're waiting for you to come on the show, but.
I stopped waiting. He'll come on, buddy, but you
know. But we like Scotty, so he was
there at the Shanley 99 Lives Paranormal, who I've spoken to
quite a bit. And you're going to be at their
hollow, the Hollow Con in Jersey in Aug at the end of August.
So we'll have them on. We'll have them on right before
that to to do some last minute promotion.
Now we have somebody in the chat last night brought that up.
Yeah. They're like, oh, I can't wait
to see you at the Hollow. Yeah, it took me a second and
I'm like, Oh yeah, that's right. That's coming up in August.
Yeah, these things are planned so far in advance, you know, for
you, it's like we got to keep you sharp up to the you.
Got to keep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Think, think of me as a penciler, stick of, you know, a
pencil, I said. A penciler.
A pencil. A penciler, it's like, it's just
for the penciler. You're like a, you're like a
Batman villain. The penciler.
It's like number. One or #2?
Right, yes. You know, it's like, how do we
stop the penciler? How do we stop the penciler?
You got sharpened me like a pencil.
There we go. It's so silly.
Penciler dude, that's. Actually really funny.
That is funny. All right.
Hey, Chad, what's going on in there?
We got some good little crowd here tonight.
What's anybody have any questions?
You know, again, that was Christian Reader from News 12.
We will if you look in the link, she in our bio, she's there and
the link to the YouTube channel is there and you should check
out these, these hunter trices. It's 20 minutes.
Karina yes, sky to the medium. We're a big fan to his most of
this chat. They you know, what's funny
about this chat, this community is all they do is say they say
hi to each other like hey, someone.
So hey, it is and it's like hi, hi, you guys.
It's like they're all just talking to themselves.
It's it's like this and they're listening.
They're listening. This is our show.
It's like they'll talk to each other.
It's like pay some, pay goddamn attention to us.
You look at us, you look at us. You talk to each other, talk to.
You what do. You think we're wasting our time
here so you can be like hi to each other?
It's outrageous, these guys, the rude rudeness.
Let's see, I'm scrolling up here looking for looking for some
names. David from Clearwater Beach, FL
Welcome. I don't know if you're still
here, but if you were, you just got a shout out.
Yeah. Yeah.
Got a lot of classics. Christina.
Christina's a big fan. She comments a lot.
Very engaged. Welcome.
Thank you for being here. Chat right now, Yeah.
You guys got any questions for? Chumming.
Chumming was here. I just noticed them chumming
with experience. Hey guys, good to see you.
Glad you showed up. They, they were bringing up the
Stanley Hotel where the Estes method was.
That'd be so fun for you and I to go there, which I mean,
wouldn't it be fun, John, to do like our big group Estes method
at in Estes? Stanley Yeah, that'd be cool.
That'd be wild. We'll have to figure that out.
It's a possibility. We'll have to talk to them
obviously and all that because they're very strict, you know,
investigators and and people doing paranormal there,
rightfully so it's an active hotel, you know.
People, a lot of, but a lot of people do go there and do
investigations, so. Oh yeah, they just don't, you
know, they don't have full reign of the place, right?
So doing a group S this method that takes some planning.
They must have a ballroom. Yeah.
Because I would love. To take your ballroom.
But I would love to take that picture, like that famous
picture at the end of The Shining when they're all, you
know, like the one. And then like you see Jack
Nicholson standing in there. You know what I'm talking about
when they zoom in and he's in the picture.
But we would, it would be us. So we would have to do it.
We'd all have to be in tuxedos, and we would all have to.
Dude, that whole, let me let me tell you something, that whole
universe, that whole universe, whether he, whether whether
Stephen King planned that or realized all the thread
connections to it is genius. Well, he's a genius, dude.
You're not. Stephen King is a genius.
Yeah. Like, like, like, you know,
doctor sleep, the tower, dot, even the even the the the recent
welcome to dairy. You know, the whole thing was, I
think we spoke about this before.
I liked it. Online or me and you had this
conversation. I don't know, like the whole
thing is all tied in. Or was it?
Is it a recalled memory like total recall where you like?
Dude, it could be this. We could have had this
conversation in the multiverse somewhere, you know?
It's a possibility. What's up, JD?
I was talking, I was on the I went on the chumming with the
spirits live. They had a live last night.
Like those guys. They're good guys.
They actually like make stuff. I think I got to talk to them
about it. They like make logos.
I think that's, I don't know what their day business is, but
it's cool. But they're fun.
They're a couple of fun fellas. Again, chumming with the
spirits. We had an interview with them.
Yeah, it was cool. Great podcast, who knows?
Anybody. Else have any questions?
Anybody else want to know what's going on in the in the world?
I don't even know Jack Nicholson had a son.
Luanne, thank you for like for the great live Instagram.
You guys got any questions? I can see you as well if you're
watching. I can only see the why, I can
only see the YouTube chat. OK, I can see them all.
They're all mixed in. I can.
Only see the YouTube chat top guys.
Have you seen Nicholson's son? No.
Is he a ghost? I.
Hope not sad. Comes out, looks like the Joker.
Well, you know. Nicholson's going to be a ghost
soon, I think. The poor guy.
How old is he? He's.
He's out there, man. He retired from acting for a
while. It's like Senna can't really do
it, Can't really do it anymore. Yeah, it happens, you know,
Yeah. Yeah, what are the?
Great about all the bands we listen to right now.
Consider classic rock so it shows you.
It's a, there's a, you know, You know, you're old.
Yes, I, I, I can't, I can't take credit for this joke.
Some comedian said it, but it was one of those things where,
you know, you're really old when that band that you used to
listen to as a teenager that your parents hated is now
playing in the grocery store as you're walking through the
aisle, like I was in the grocery store the other day and they're
playing welcome to the jungle and like route.
It's just like, Oh my God, you know, it's just so you know what
I mean. Yeah, yeah.
That was and now it's the, you know, it's just part of the OK.
It was like the other day. The other day I was forced to
listen to the regular radio, so I listened to the classic rock
station on, you know, Metallica song came on.
I'm like, really? Yeah, I guess this is considered
classic rock, that a freaking Nirvana song comes on and I'm
like, well, I guess that's considered classic rock too, to
30 years old. Metallica is 40 years old.
Metallica is 45 years old. They've been around for 45
years. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
The rest of them, those other guys are 30 years old.
Yeah. I mean it's.
Still, it's still, you know. They're old, dude.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
It's crazy to think about and just think about.
So then here's my question. What is all the classic rock
when we were growing up? What is that considered now?
Is that oldies? Is that like?
Rock or oldies? When does it get moved down?
Yeah, when does it get moved down?
Dude, I don't know what's a good question.
That's a real yeah. Like, like thinking about like
what do you consider Led Zeppelin, ACDC, You know, I
think what about the bands that are still out there that are
still making music? Like what do you, what do you
consider Judas Priest? You know, like they're, you
know, they released a new album last year, I believe.
It's like, wait a minute. You know, it's really, it's
really interesting to think about.
Maybe it's only yeah, it's it's it'd have to be like, who
designs the programming for these radio?
Because for us, I think our classic rock will always be
classic rock, and we'll always call Nirvana grunge.
Yes, yes. Because that's our generation.
But it's like your kids. What's your kids call Nirvana?
Yep. And how much of that music is
now called emo? Or would they just say who?
Like I can't tell you how many times like somebody younger
generation will all around me will be like, oh, Oh yeah, that
emo band. And I'm like, homie, Alice In
Chains is not an emo band. Relax, Pump the brakes.
But to their generation, it's it's considered emo, even though
it's not, you know, My Chemical Romance.
Well, that's just a lack of education.
That's just a lack of education. I don't know.
Yeah, we have an education problem in this country and it
starts. With music, yeah, it stops from
music, dude. Hell yeah, it starts with music.
Starts with music. It doesn't stop.
Nope, does not. Create 100%.
So bad. It is wild Elevator.
It's elevator. Music.
I'm CIA. I'm going through.
Yeah. Get your smoking truck.
Yes, yes. So crazy.
It's so crazy to think about. I don't know, man, what about
and what? And, you know, tie it back into
spirits, you know, like, what do you think spirits think of music
of today when they hear it? I guess it depends on when they
died. But I'll give you an example.
I used to when I used to leave the static Cam on the static
stream on here around Christmas time, I used to make a whole
Christmas playlist of Christmas music, you know, and then you
know, leave, leave it on at the fireplace room and leave the
live on. So I had the spirit boxes going
and the Christmas music going. At some point the spirits would
literally switch off the Christmas music and put on
regular music. And it was like, wait a minute,
the playlist wasn't up. There's over, you know, there's
hours of music in here. Like wait a minute, hold on,
time out. You know, it's actually pretty
funny. They turn off the Christmas.
Music they had, they had taste, but what they put on is the
question. I can't remember.
Laura Mack Yes. My Chemical Romance My Chemical
Romance is a great band. They're very performative.
I like them a lot. They're great.
That guy delivers. The Black Parade is probably 1
of. That guy delivers the goods.
Well that lead singer delivers it.
He brings it like 1000% every time he opens his mouth like he
not. That's not even my generation of
music. Like when I was a teenager that
wasn't, well, actually, that's not true.
When I was about to leave high school or already just left high
school, that's when like My Chemical Romance and like emo
was big, you know, so that's when it was like really big, but
I couldn't get into a lot of the bands.
My Chemical Romance definitely an exception.
Do great bands like. What's the new?
What's the newest band you've heard of?
A new I mean that you like. All right, so I'm throwing this
in there as new well these so. Better be new Volbeat.
Even though they've been around for a bit now.
Volbeat. OK, I like yeah, but they
haven't been they they. Are they Dutch or some shit like
there's? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Volbeat Ghost. I love ghost.
Ghost. I love ghost.
And I've seen them that I love. They're awesome.
So funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Totally Satanic. And I love everything.
About it. I love it.
I love every second of them. Every second.
Especially just growing up, you know, You know, with Catholicism
shoved down your throat. All of their music has so much
highlights of that. Oh, I love it.
It's not even fun. Ghost is great.
Great bad omens. They're they're they're is that?
New. Yeah, yeah, that's new newish,
right? Other than that, like I don't
hear any like, like real good, like rock or metal.
And I'm like, Oh yeah, this is awesome.
Other than what older bands or new music that they're coming
out with, you know? There's just one playlist I
listened to. There's just one playlist on
Spotify. Listen to It's called Dirty Rock
and they have some they have some bands that I like like.
Dirty rock. Yeah, because it's like that.
It's, you know, it's like a royal blood.
Oh Royal Blood is great. Yep Yep, that's you.
Consider them a newer band. Royal blood, There's another
Hold on. Let me pull this up because I
got to find it but. I stood next to the guitarist of
Led Zeppelin without even realizing.
What's his name? Paige.
Jimmy Page. Why?
Because you thought it was an old woman.
You know, Well, yeah, but I stood right that.
Looks like an old woman now. This is like Rick, you know?
True story 100%. I stood right next to him at a
Royal Blood concert in New York City and had no idea it was him,
No idea it was him jamming out to Royal Blood when I saw him.
No idea. You know, it's one of my buddies
is like, dude, that's Jimmy Page.
And I'm like, what? And then we looked into it and
he's a fan of the band, so, but pretty interesting, which
they're great bands. Oh, good.
Goodbye Jane. Goodbye June.
I like.
That's a good. What's what's that other Led
Zeppelin esque band that came out?
They have this song. It's.
Greta Van Fleet Greta Van Fleet. The other one, the other one,
oh, I'm going to draw on a blank.
Oh, why might you want to blank on the band?
That one song's called Electric. The other song is they're,
they're very showy too. Like they get on stage and they
just, you know, like. Sure it's not Greta Van Fleet.
They sound just like Zeppelin. No, no, it's not Greta Van
Fleet. It's I can't, I can't remember
the name of them. It's not Greta Van Fleet though,
but they do sound just like Zeppelin.
They sound just like, I mean, they really, they really bring
trying to bring it back. But music wise, there's not.
Did you know what I've gotten into was I got into real
instrumental funk music? And there's this like thing,
there's this playlist called Fake Music and they take and
they just, it's, I get, I don't know if they use AI, but they've
like turned songs that you love into like a instrumental funk.
And it's, oh, that's great. It's so great.
Isn't it good? Yeah.
When I'm driving, it feels like driving music.
So I'm in like we're in our cars a lot in LA, right?
So I'm like in there, and it just feels like, you know, it's
just like this good old school funk, you know?
Laura Mack I grew up Bowling For Soup, Paramore, Green Day and
Panic at the Disco. I love Green Day.
I like everything.
I like Green Day up until a certain point.
To be honest with you, it has nothing to do with their
political views or anything. It's just like the music just
started falling off for me. How dare you?
But I but I do like Green Day. JD JD Chumming says spirits like
he's been on exhibition excursions where the spirits
have responded to the Backstreet Boys and who does it, Pink Pony
Club. Those are both great.
Those are both great jams. I always love this.
This is part of the thing too, that I love about the Bruce
brothers, right? Like Noah versus the paranormal
and Jake, you know, that whole Spira.
And then they. Blast music out.
They blast the music. They go on the offensive, dude.
Those guys go on the offense. It makes me.
Laugh when they come on, dude. I just find it hysterical.
They are. They do some good stuff.
That guy Jake just came out with a great video.
You know who we interviewed, where he went to all the
original spots of Ghost Adventures.
Yes, yes, I saw that by you. Really good guys Jake Bruce is
on the show and if you watch and then he made he's always got
clips, but then he put up a real a really well made hour
together. Real girl made episode of, you
know, getting some real reactions.
I mean how? I mean, you can't hate all these
newcomers, dude. They're doing some, I don't know
how. There's a lot of hate.
For them, dude, there's all, there's all for the young guy.
So young guys do some good stuff and it's, you know, and it's
they're funny. I mean, how do you reinvent this
genre? You know what I mean?
But it's there's a. Lot of hate.
For Laura Mac, No, Laura Mac's saying Rush.
He's asking the question. The answer is no Rush.
Listen, let's get into. We want to get into rush for a
minute, guys. Then then we got to jump.
No, here's the thing with rush. Rush.
And we're not making fun of Canada.
Maybe a little, but it. This has nothing to do with
Canada. Obviously super talented, these
guys, musicians, some of the greatest, or you know, probably
some of the greatest musicians you're ever going to find.
However, their constant time signature changes, it makes it
almost too complicated to truly enjoy.
That's why you don't see you barely see any girls at their
shows. You can't dance to it.
They don't. You know, it's just sort of a
whole like I was in a rush for this much of A time when I was
in high school because I was like, you know, this is really
great. And then you when you're driving
alone in your car and you actually start having emotions
as an adult, you know, your for your go to isn't I'm going to
put on that rush song to make me feel you're just not doing it.
It's just not going to happen. Well, well, that's dude.
It's, it's there's a difference between getting kind of
progressive and then way too progressive, right?
That's why progressive bands never really go anywhere.
Like, look at Dream Theater. Look at, you know, no.
Dude, that's too complicated, too complicated.
And it's like, you know, I can't.
And I get into this argument constantly.
Like, look, I loved Pearl Jam in the 90s.
That was my college, you know, era, right, 9192.
And now as an adult, that shit does not speak to me at all.
And they are to me one of the most.
This is nothing to do with their talent.
And Eddie Vedder might be one of the greatest front men in the
history of singing and rock. His voice is like magic.
The songs are unfun. I don't want to ever be in my
car and put on a song about their.
Songs. They're unfun, dude.
They're popular. Songs.
But that's what I'm saying. Like songs like Do the
Evolution. But their most their most
popular song was the one was the cover of the you know, like Last
Kiss about the car accident. And it's like, and then you got
Jeremy, dude, I ever tell you this, I go to Jazz Fest in New
Orleans. We can end on this unfun story,
but it's like we go to jazz Fest in New Orleans with my boys and
they were headlining one of the nights and you'd think, what are
they going to do as their closing act?
And it's like when it goes and and Jazz Fest, if you've ever
anybody who's ever been ends relatively early because they
want people going back on Bourbon Street and partying,
right? They don't want you out.
You know, they want you back as fast as possible spending money.
So these guys come out and dude, they wheeled out Steve Gleason,
who from the New Orleans Saints, who's got Lou Gehrig's disease,
and he's on stage while they do their last song.
And it's, I don't know about you, man, but that shit just is
not fun. I feel for the, I mean, what's
more tragic than a, than a professional athlete who's
trapped in his own mind, in his own body, right?
And it's to me that is not joyful and I'm not there for
that. And if that makes me cold, then
I'm freezing because I don't care because it's not.
Now the next night, Red Hot Chili Peppers, the complete
opposite, maybe the most fun band and they're still fun and
everything they do is fun. And it's dancing and it's chicks
and it's fun and it's great. And Pearl Jam, it's like suicide
deaths. It's beatings.
It's state, dude. They started in the 70s.
Red Hot Chili Peppers. Well, they started in high
school. They're not it's, they were,
well, you know, they're like 10 years older than me.
So they couldn't have been the 70s per SE.
I mean, they met when they were like.
It was like 7879 when they when they formed their band.
Yeah, which is wild, you know? Wild.
But you know what I know? Well, I'll give you the prime
example. There's something that just
passed. Well, it's almost been a year
now. In the summer, it will be.
Was Ozzy's final concert, dude, you know, there was nothing more
sad seeing him strapped to his throne so he wouldn't fall off
and all that man wanted to do was get up out of his chair.
That's tough call, right? Dude, but like it was great.
He sounded great. It was just heartbreaking to see
like, hey, you know, he's trying to give it his all.
He knows it's his last, you know, he's doing his thing.
Same thing when I saw I saw Bowter Heads last concert.
Yeah. What's it called?
Last big. One of their last big ones.
You know, Lemmy couldn't even play anymore.
You know, the famous ace of spades.
This is him on the bass. Bom, bom, bom, bom.
That's all. That was the baseline.
He couldn't do anything else. Like, dude, it's heartbreaking
to see that, you know, you're like.
Yeah, there's a certain point. There's a certain point.
But anyway, I don't know. I still I was still sitting.
That slow down to end it. I know.
I would still say that's lots better than Steve Gleason coming
out there. And we, you know, like in Lou
Gehrig's. I mean, it's just.
Like, oh God, that's like seeing what's his face from Frighteners
and Teen Wolf. What's his name?
Michael J Fox. Oh, yeah.
But he's still he's, you know, I know It's not to me, it's not.
I mean, he's still, you know, look, that guy's America.
Michael J Fox, an American treasure.
And it's not it's. Not such a great actor too and.
He's still great. I mean, he was just in, he was,
he just did a he had a bit in shrinking on Apple, which is
great. He's still he's still still.
Yeah, yeah, it's a great show. He can still that is, I don't
know. This is something about the
whole the message. It doesn't connect with me
anymore for that bit for certain moments.
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We're fans, We're fans. We've both been in bands.
We've opened up for other bands that have some sort of
notoriety. We've been in the, in the,
what's it called? We've been, we stood around a
little bit, you know? Hey, listen, Gary, wear the
penciler. Beware the penciler, guys.
That's your new Halloween. That's going to be the that's
going to be the the costume this Halloween is the penciler.
The Penciler. It's not #2 you won't know what
to do, you know? Still go #2.
What do you used to call those tests you needed #2 pencils,
the. Oh, the all of every test.
I can't remember having it. Could you imagine?
What are they called? Pencils.
They're called something. They were called, not.
Well, yeah, the SAT, I mean everything had the SA, TS,
everything. Yeah, but that certain style
that only reads the number 2 is called.
The Oh yeah, I know what you're saying.
I don't know what it's called, but it was like it had to be.
They were. So there were such sticklers
about the number. Two.
Well, because it only reads the lead from the number 2.
That's what it was. There was a certain type of
style of testing lecture, something the, I don't know #2
the pensler. All right.
Everybody, thank you all for coming by.
It was been a real pleasure. Thank you, thank you and we will
see you. Oh.
Shit, shit. If you didn't watch the Gary
Galka episode, it's out now. Wonderful episode.
The inventor of the SB-7, The Thing, the Rempod, the Mel meter
that's out. And who's on Tuesday's episode?
Tessa Groff. That's right.
Big episode guys, big episode. We have her and right
back-to-back following her episode, Nick Groff, creator of
Ghost Adventures. So we've got both the Groffs,
the paranormal power couple. We're starting with Tessa,
psychic medium. I mean amazing woman, really
fun, really fun conversation, really interesting conversation
and is a big part of this paranormal world.
You know, when the Groffs are starting a little mini empire of
theirs, you know, really building something up, a family
business like the Partridge family of ghosts, I think.
But they're great. They're such great people.
So we're excited to have her on and Nick all coming up in May.
So back-to-back to back-to-back. So guys, stick around.
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