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So the first spot, Shanley 
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I always bring a rosary. 
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As I'm pulling it out, the 
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the Shanley Hotel. 
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All right, we are live. 
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Hey everybody, let's get to the 
public chat. 

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See who jumps in first. 
What's up folks? 

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We might have a little surprise 
for you because we're not going 

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to be on standard paranormal 
today with some technical 

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issues. 
You got, you want to watch it, 

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you go, it's time. 
It's time you migrate over. 

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Well, that's what I'm letting 
the good people know. 

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There we go. 
Now you have my full and 

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undivided attention. 
Hello. 

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Hello. 
Hello. 

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Hello. 
Yeah, we're getting bodies in 

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there slowly or surely. 
There's a few people coming in 

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across the board. 
We're going to do another piece 

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today with a news reporter. 
Christy readers coming back on 

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now if you remember Karina 
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YouTube Christy but by default 
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Instagram, but that doesn't 
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She's our guest today. 
Christy is a news reporter for 

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News 12 out of New York in the 
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And she did. 
I don't know what she was 

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thinking. 
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went to journalism school she 
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hunting. 
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in this world and I guess 
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working in the ratings as they 
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So she visited 4 new places. 
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Nutley, NJ, The Backroom, a 
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York City, the Russell Library 
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heard of those two. 
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the Shanley Hotel in Knapenock, 
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So Christie's in our waiting 
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Let's give it a couple more 
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get in, and then we'll bring 
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it 'cause I really, I'm curious 
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getting in it. 
She's not like grazing in it. 

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Yeah, I know as she's getting 
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She's in it, dude. 
She's investigating and and 

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they're it's looking good. 
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of local paranormal 
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You know, they she gets the 
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They do it like, you know, I 
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there probably for like a night.
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then she on their show, they 
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OK, what could this be? 
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I really want to talk to you 
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curious if it's changed her mind
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And then but so it's it she's 
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She's out there doing real 
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alongs with crazy ghost people 
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What's up, Jacqueline, welcome. 
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I'm going to bring in Christy 
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tri-state. 
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There she is. 
Hi. 

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Christy, welcome back. 
Good to see you all. 

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I cannot believe we're already 
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I can't believe you did in 
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It's like it's my first. 
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where I I want to know, was it a
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were like, Christy, this worked.
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four things and you were like, 
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Yes, that's exactly how it went 
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No, I mean, so many people liked
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So many people tuned in and 
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it was your guys's show, maybe 
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I think it just shows that so 
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So yeah, we were like, let's do 
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Oh nice. 
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tri-state area. 
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not live there doesn't mean you 
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places or if you're interested 
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So you you must, you'll like 
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here on the live, we were saying
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alongs, man. 
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I watched and we'll we'll we'll 
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the place, you show some of the 
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investigation and then you bring
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the end of it. 
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it's all done, right? 
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All the four new ones are in the
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Last yesterday we had the last 
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I mean, I've always looked at it
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really like, you know, yeah, 
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trying to get into everything, 
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Which, which camera guy do I 
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And it's all organic, too. 
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We don't want to miss anything. 
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more of like, you know, from 
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looking at it more of like, OK, 
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I'm getting freaked out. 
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was talking to our social media 
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some videos where like, you 
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really want to see this stuff. 
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John, you're probably familiar. 
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And I always bring a rosary. 
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rosaries. 
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and I'm like, and then I like, 
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find it. 
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together and then the next video
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I'm bringing this in. 
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the Shanley Hotel. 
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was scary. 
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Kingsland Manor and. 
Is that the the the the portrait

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You know you're trying to like, 
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where would it wind up in Season

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I don't know. 
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it's pretty equal, you know, 
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That's made. 
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That's a real belief. 
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moved. 
Was that the most unexplainable 

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thing you saw in the season? 
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picture moving. 
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That was something that was 
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How did that happen? 
You know, like you can't. 

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Yeah, there were no vents and, 
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monitors. 
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know, if you put it on an 
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object, it would just be green. 
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picture, it was red. 
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Something's going on there. 
Oh, that's interesting. 

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Yeah, yeah, a thermal gun. 
I should I think a. 

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Thermal. 
Yeah, yeah, sure. 

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I'm still still learning on the 
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Because it's usually the red. 
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heat there? 
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I think we, you know, like we 
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of the raw moments are what make
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there. 
What? 

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She like ran out. 
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the last season we would have 
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cameras, you know, I literally 
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eating dinner, like the pizzas, 
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like, who has a cold, you know, 
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you know, it's not like we got 
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lighting and everything. 
I think that is what really kind

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crazy night. 
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I mean, that's good journalism. 
I mean, you want to get there, 

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record it and capture it and 
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And that's a lot of this time in
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You want that because when it's 
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you're going to start getting 
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faked. 
You know, people don't like it. 

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So it's it is weird that the 
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like about. 
Well, before I get to that, what

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about your crew this time 
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Is it the same crews you had in 
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No, we upped it. 
We're moving on up. 

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Look, we have more people. 
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shoot, we have like 3 
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my gosh, we never have this. 
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you know, just helping us get 
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big thing was like, we want 
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People keep telling me they're 
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see how many faces you can make 
sure. 

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So yeah, so we opt the crew and 
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think that really helps to 
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So we'll have like, you know, a 
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know, one group and then another
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So that that's been, you know, 
that's been, it's nice to have a

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lot of people on the project. 
Now, were any of them skeptics? 

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And how are they handling all of
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Well, one photographer, Mike, 
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like on a shoot, but his 
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them. 
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Shanley Hotel, he was getting a 
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He's really creative with shots.
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stairs and he felt like somebody
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like kind of, you know, in and 
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Going up to the the 2nd floor to
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to the second. 
Floor. 

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the second floor where there was
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OK. 
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So that's the other. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So that was that was really 
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really like emotional connection
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were at the house where the 
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He, you know, I, we were in the 
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Speakeasy at one point in time. 
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questions kind of toward, it was
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We were asking questions kind of
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live there, like, OK, you know, 
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have been hidden there. 
You know, where's the money, 

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this and that. 
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does anybody else want to ask a 
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like, mom, if you're there, his 
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And he, you know, started 
having, you know, answers 

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started matching up to the 
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And they were like, that almost 
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So to see one of our crew 
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experience and you know, 
whenever I, we've done all of 

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these, when you talk to the 
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that that's like a big reason 
why they do what they do. 

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It's when they can connect 
family members to loved ones, 

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you know, that have passed. 
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reaction, you know, it was that 
was that was like the first time

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our crew had gotten that deep, 
you know, And even when we were,

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you know, putting it all 
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one of the producers, you know, 
like I came over to her desk and

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she was tearing up even because,
you know, it was, you know, it's

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like we all spend so much time 
together and to see somebody 

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have that, you know, it was and 
for him to want to share it for 

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the show, too, I thought that 
was that was neat. 

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Well, we always hear a lot, you 
know, you have to really be open

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to receiving in order for this 
kind of activity to happen. 

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So then, John, just tell me if 
I'm wrong here. 

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But it seems like when you have 
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kind of a, a state, right? 
He's still grieving over his mom

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and it, and these things happen.
It, it, it, it makes more sense.

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It's, it's not as, it's not 
coincidence, you know, it's not 

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just he's open. 
You know, he's it's definitely 

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not coincidence, but one and 
listen, sometimes I I can be the

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villain for the things that I 
say when it comes to the 

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paranormal. 
This might be one of those 

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times. 
There is a chance and a very big

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chance that that wasn't a family
member. 

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There is a very big chance that 
that was something pretending. 

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And you know, a lot of these 
entities like to invoke emotion 

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out of humans for whatever 
reason. 

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It could be because they want to
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feeding off it. 
There could be many different 

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things that can happen. 
So it's easy for people get 

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swept up in the idea that a 
loved 1 is coming through, even 

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if answers are matching up. 
However, it all depends on those

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answers and the questions and 
repeated events happening again 

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to be 100% sure. 
So yes, being open 100% but also

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you. 
Know, but also remember we're 

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from New York. 
We're talking. 

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About We're all from New York, 
right? 

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We don't trust the living. 
Yeah, we don't trust the. 

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Living. 
We don't trust the living, so of

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course we naturally assume that 
all these people that are dead 

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are like, is this guy trying to 
pull some shit over on me? 

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And we don't trust them either. 
So true. 

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That's a. 
That's an. 

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Interesting take though, John. 
And now I'm going to be now I'm 

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more scared because are we is is
it a demon trying to trick us? 

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OK. 
Well, that's the thing the, the 

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all right, So the a demon, of 
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right? 
The way I like to look at the 

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paranormal is probability versus
possibility. 

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What's more probable? 
What's more possible? 

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And it if if it wasn't a family 
member, then it was just a 

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spirit pretending to be 1. 
Assholes alive are still 

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assholes when they're dead. 
It's true. 

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That's kind of the thing that we
always talk about, Like some 

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people are just jerks and their 
jerk, their spirits are jerks, 

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and I mean more jerks than not. 
And it's possible that a spirit 

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could be lying or it could be 
angry or it could be toying. 

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And that gets taught that gets 
tossed into the into the demon 

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bucket. 
When, when find the law. 

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Yeah. 
When, when it comes to cool 

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things like that. 
Regardless, there were questions

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being asked and responses were 
happening. 

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That's the take away for me, 
right? 

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Like questions were asked, 
direct responses were happening,

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which is amazing in itself. 
And then it poses the question, 

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what are we speaking to? 
Yeah. 

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Christy, in the, in the four 
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was it, did you? 
I didn't cause I've only seen 

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the two. 
I only saw the Shanley and the 

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kings and the King of the man. 
What for the other two and for 

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all four of them really did you,
was there a difference in the 

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type of gear and equipment you 
used to try to get different 

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reactions or was there certain 
things that are more noticeably 

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different in one? 
Like something moved in this 

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place. 
We heard more voices in this 

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place. 
We felt colder in this place. 

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Like what was the vibe for all 
these? 

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Locations, yeah, we used 
different equipment like the oh 

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and the wait, our equipment and 
the paranormal equipment both 

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were different. 
We finally got like a night 

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vision camera for this season, 
which was really cool. 

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That's cool, yeah. 
Nice to have a budget. 

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And then so that was our 
different. 

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But yeah, usually on all these 
different, you know, that's kind

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of another unique point. 
You know, the paranormal teams 

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are all different and how they 
do their things. 

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You know, we have one guy who 
sketches what comes to him. 

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So yeah, yeah, right. 
Richard Michella. 

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So the other two, so you 
mentioned the two, the other two

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were the backroom Speakeasy, 
which is in New York City, 

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actually the the Lower East 
Side. 

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That was so cool to go there. 
And 9 Lives Paranormal went 

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there and they brought the SLS 
camera. 

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And at that there were a lot of 
stick figures, you know, moving 

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all around. 
So that was that was different. 

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And then the other one was the 
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which immediately already I was 
like Ghostbusters, obviously. 

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Like anytime I'd walk down an 
aisle, I'm like, oh. 

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You're looking for an old woman?
Yes, I. 

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You're waiting for an old woman 
to turn on and go. 

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Yeah, yes. 
So so. 

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Christy, out of all the places, 
out of all the places, which one

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freaks you out the most? 
I think Shanley, because we 

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actually stayed the night there.
Oh, OK. 

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Which room did you say? 
The the the men's quarters. 

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Where? 
Oh, you stayed in the men's 

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quarters. 
You stayed in the. 

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Yeah, they were like women are 
because they as we were touring 

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the whole hotel, I was like, 
this seems the least creepy. 

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That's how the other one was 
like apparitions were seen here 

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and there. 
And the only one in that one 

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though, like, oh, somebody's 
shoes moved around. 

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I'm like, that sounds like. 
And then of course, I was like 

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not staying there alone. 
And honestly, I don't think I 

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would have stayed the night, but
it was a really far journey. 

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And the whole crew is like, 
well, let's stay. 

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And then I'm like, I don't want 
to be the one person that's 

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like, am I going to go home? 
I'm scared. 

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I went home, Christy, I went 
there with him and I left. 

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There was some like there was a 
weird noise in the room. 

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I was there for a couple hours 
and I'm like, dude, I'm getting 

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the hell out of here. 
I didn't I had to go to the 

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bathroom so bad in the middle 
and I I'm like, I'm not going to

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get get up and we even. 
And they were like, are you 

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comfortable with us putting a 
camera like on you while you 

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sleep? 
I'm like, yes, I want to 

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document it that I did this. 
So and it I, you know, it didn't

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really pick anything up, but 
yeah, me and two other producers

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stayed in that room. 
So and we, that was a long night

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of filming too, right? 
We didn't. 

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You know, I get a lot, a lot of 
stuff at the Shandling when I 

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go. 
Like a lot, a lot of 

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conversations, a lot of noises, 
disembodied voices. 

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The one area that everyone is 
always telling me to check out 

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is the gentleman's corners and 
the one area where I get 

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absolutely nothing. 
It's probably the most boring 

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part of the stream. 
It's the gentleman's corners. 

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And I tried every time, you 
know, and Kelly's such a 

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sweetheart. 
Kelly's like John, try this, do 

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that. 
And it's just I, I, it's so 

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strange. 
The rest of the place is like a 

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lightning rod. 
The rest of the place, no matter

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where I go, if I go into the 
seance room, if I go upstairs, 

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if I go into the brothel, you 
know, all over the attic, going 

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all over the place. 
It it's. 

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Because you're no gentleman. 
You got to go there dressed as a

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tuxedo Next time, maybe. 
Yeah, right. 

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I go with a cut off T-shirt and.
But wait, we, we jumped ahead 

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because I don't think, Chris, I,
I really kind of, I want to know

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the answer to that. 
The first question I asked, 

445
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,280
which was, you know, did you 
experience like, did a certain 

446
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,360
place give you a different 
experience or, and how was that?

447
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,680
Or was it just generally the 
same voices coldly like, you 

448
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,760
know, in every place? 
No, no. 

449
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,120
I mean, I think each place was 
different. 

450
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:17,520
I think that the yeah, like 
Shanley, it was more yeah. 

451
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,200
I feel like the voices we heard 
a lot of like, like it was 

452
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,840
saying my name, like Christy, 
then the picture moving at the 

453
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,040
other place. 
Then, you know, I think each 

454
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,560
place it was like a little 
different. 

455
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,680
The the library, it was light 
going off and oh, and we were 

456
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,480
trying to get into this tower 
like all night in the library 

457
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,280
and she had the right code and 
it wasn't working. 

458
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,440
We're like, well, we'll come 
back. 

459
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,400
She tried and tried and we're 
like, oh, we really want to get 

460
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,400
in there and film. 
And then like, all of a sudden 

461
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,840
it just like let her in. 
And I'm like, that's weird, you 

462
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,760
know? 
So, yeah. 

463
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,280
So things like that. 
I was like, that's really oh, 

464
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,520
and then in that part too, yeah.
In so yes, everything was 

465
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,640
different. 
There was like something 

466
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,560
different, a take away from each
place. 

467
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,000
But in that part as well, the 
library episode, when we were in

468
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,600
the basement, the, a, a big team
of the library came with that 

469
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,640
came to watch, you know, the, 
the shooting, which was really 

470
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,640
fun to like have them there and 
they could, you know, answer 

471
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,120
questions. 
But we were all downstairs and 

472
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,640
we were trying to, you know, 
talk, communicate. 

473
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,760
And then all of a sudden they 
came up and they're like, hey, 

474
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,800
we're hearing something. 
They heard like a handle 

475
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,000
jiggling. 
And so we're like, that's weird.

476
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,760
And then when I was taping it 
and aside, like, you know, kind 

477
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,520
of like kind of a recap of what 
happened, I heard it too. 

478
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,400
And we, it was just like three 
of us down here. 

479
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,400
And one of the producers, Jenny,
who I love, she's like, well, 

480
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,480
let's let's go over there. 
I'm like Nope, no, no. 

481
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,680
It's like, has Jenny ever seen a
movie? 

482
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,040
You don't go where you hear the 
noise. 

483
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,040
It's like, has she ever not 
seen? 

484
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,040
I mean. 
Unless, unless you you do what I

485
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280
do, then you run right towards 
it, you know? 

486
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,240
That's the whole point. 
I think Jenny's even watching 

487
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,920
tonight too, so shout out to 
Jenny. 

488
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,080
So she she. 
Shout out to her, but it's like,

489
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,320
come on man. 
Like watch a movie. 

490
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,520
When you hear the noise, go the 
other way. 

491
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,880
But that's what good TV is, and 
she knows it, and she makes me 

492
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,960
go. 
You know, God love her. 

493
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,800
Another big part of the show is 
this. 

494
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,080
You're talking to these 
skeptics. 

495
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,080
Yeah. 
So I love them. 

496
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,440
So, yeah, tell me, tell me what 
that's like for you. 

497
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,280
So you just have got, do you 
film it? 

498
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,560
I I assume it's filmed linearly.
So it's after you're all done, 

499
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,640
then you gather, you take a look
at the oven, then you sit with 

500
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,120
them and say you show them what 
you got. 

501
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,960
Yeah. 
Does that, what's that 

502
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,880
experience like for you? 
Is it a, does it bring you back 

503
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,760
to earth or does it make you 
take the wind out of your sails?

504
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,720
Because they're buzz kills about
the whole thing. 

505
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,960
Like what's the vibe when you 
sit down with them? 

506
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,960
They're. 
Really great. 

507
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,600
You know, I, I now, you know, 
like we know them and 

508
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,920
afterwards, you know, in between
takes we get, you know, we know 

509
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,520
each other and, and honestly 
like that, that's a lot of 

510
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,200
people's favorite part of the 
show because they, you know, for

511
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,640
some people, they're like, yes, 
now bring in these people who 

512
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,120
are going to set everyone 
straight. 

513
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,240
So, you know, so obviously I 
think it's a crucial part to 

514
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,200
have them. 
I think they bring up some good 

515
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,120
points and they're kind of 
making me think, OK, next time 

516
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:03,960
around I need to make sure I do 
this, this and this to like be 

517
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,800
like, well, I did that or I 
looked for that, you know, like 

518
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,120
just like the picture when it 
was moving. 

519
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,240
We're like, OK, well, are there 
any events surrounded? 

520
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,800
Are there any this and that? 
You know, so I always think 

521
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,840
that's, that's interesting. 
And you know, they have a good, 

522
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,880
you know, they're, they're funny
too. 

523
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,160
They're really, you know, and we
should, yeah, we, we basically 

524
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,640
like bring the best clips that 
we think. 

525
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,440
And then, yeah, sometimes I am 
like, really. 

526
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,560
But I like their take on it. 
You know, I think it's good. 

527
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000
I think it's it's important, you
know, especially we. 

528
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,280
Like skeptics? 
Listen, we like Scott. 

529
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,600
We've had a couple skeptics on 
the show. 

530
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,640
So you know, you can't. 
I guess my biggest issue with 

531
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:48,520
skeptics is that they do not 
have a criteria to be convinced 

532
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,520
otherwise. 
Nothing will ever convince. 

533
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,440
Nothing will and that to me is a
as is as stubborn A belief as 

534
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,480
anything else. 
It's not. 

535
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,440
And we talked about this a lot 
in the show, right? 

536
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Like if you're a science, like 
if you're a medical doctor and 

537
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,000
you're in the United States and 
you're dealing with a medical 

538
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,960
doctor in, you know, just pick a
nation on the other side of the 

539
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,480
world. 
You can send them the reports 

540
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,560
that you've done on your study. 
You can say we've done, you 

541
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,160
know, a 10,000 person test. 
We've done double blinds. 

542
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680
We've done this, this and this. 
Here's the results that doctor's

543
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,400
going to look at this peer 
reviewed study. 

544
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,760
There's a set of criteria that 
scientists have and they'll say,

545
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,560
well, I guess this is the way 
this they did it, it works. 

546
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,400
You know, they're not going to 
be like bullshit, you know, and 

547
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,320
there's nothing in this fringe 
science of in the paranormal 

548
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,000
world that will convince them 
other than unless they see it 

549
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,200
themselves with their own eyes. 
And as one And like Ben, we had 

550
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,440
a guy Ben Radford on great guy, 
like really smart, good look 

551
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,880
goes on investigations, wants to
be convinced, but he's even said

552
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,720
he's like, look, unless the the 
grandfather clock lifts off the 

553
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,320
ground and flies around me and I
can figure out why that's not 

554
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,960
happening, I'm not he's not 
going to believe it. 

555
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,800
And I'm like, well, that's I 
mean, you know, we're talking 

556
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,920
about a a voice or when someone 
says Christy, and you've never 

557
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,600
been in this place before, you 
know, and why did that happen 

558
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,440
not once, but twice? 
And it's like, you know, yes, we

559
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,560
could probably explain it to 
sign into something, but isn't 

560
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,120
that happening a weird 
occurrence? 

561
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,680
And can't we give some kudos to 
that? 

562
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,880
And and that's, that's my thing 
with them. 

563
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200
It is. 
So with your crew, Is there 

564
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,520
anything about them that that 
you think would ever change 

565
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,560
their minds from what you show 
them or would they have to be 

566
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,840
there to be convinced? 
What do you think? 

567
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,200
I don't know, we've talked about
like, oh, do we bring, you know,

568
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,920
do we bring them along to, to 
something? 

569
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,880
But then there's the logistics 
of like, it's already hard 

570
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,000
enough to schedule everyone's 
schedules. 

571
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,720
Yeah, sometimes I have. 
I'm like, what do you need? 

572
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,760
But yeah, maybe it is just the 
moment you have to be in. 

573
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,960
But I do think it's important to
get their side, you know? 

574
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,280
I'm not against it because they 
certainly bring up other things.

575
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,280
I just say they're just on fun. 
I think it's very easy. 

576
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,960
The thing is, they. 
Are really fun people though. 

577
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,280
No, no, no, I don't mean that. 
I mean sceptics in general. 

578
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,920
I mean debunkers in general. 
Right. 

579
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,200
Like it's because the whole 
thing is, I know what they're 

580
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200
going to say. 
Yeah, that's for me. 

581
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,920
I they're just going to say no, 
like every, no matter what I 

582
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,200
ask, they're going to say no. 
It's not this, right? 

583
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,680
So they're so for me, it's 
always that's a predictable 

584
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,520
thing. 
And I get, I might, you know, 

585
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,200
they'll just come up with a 
reason with it and let it and 

586
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,960
that makes it unfun. 
It's like I want to see the 

587
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,720
unknown, right? 
I want to, I want to know what's

588
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,240
going to happen and I want to, I
like hearing what it could be, 

589
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,840
what it might be, but it's 
definitely, we don't, we can't 

590
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,120
be definitive about it. 
Right. 

591
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,440
I also don't mind hearing no and
having a good reason for the no.

592
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,000
Yeah, and they've opened me up 
to a few things. 

593
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760
I'm like, OK, I didn't like the 
SLS camera. 

594
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,000
I didn't realize that was it's a
gaming device. 

595
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,920
And I was like, OK, you know. 
And then I'm like, but then of 

596
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,280
course I'm like, but it was 
showing the figures where there 

597
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,120
wasn't anything. 
So I'm like, well, how do you 

598
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,920
explain that? 
You know, so I guess there is a 

599
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
follow up, but I, you know, I, I
take something away. 

600
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,560
There's been a few times where 
we've showed them stuff and 

601
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,480
they're like, this was better 
than I thought. 

602
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,800
They'll say that. 
And I'm like, you know what? 

603
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,720
I'll take that. 
Take that. 

604
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,280
Take care. 
What? 

605
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,440
Yeah. 
Have you, what have you pushed 

606
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,520
back on? 
And even if not verbally out 

607
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,720
loud to yourself, like, no, man,
I was there. 

608
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,720
That was weird. 
Was there a moment in the show 

609
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,080
where like they said, this is 
this? 

610
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,480
And you're like, I don't know. 
Yeah, I mean, a few times I will

611
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,640
like, if it's ever an experience
that one of our crew members 

612
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,360
have, I'll always be like, look 
them in the eye and tell them 

613
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,480
they didn't hear that, so we'll 
do that. 

614
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,520
And, you know, because it is, 
it's. 

615
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,360
Yeah, there's a few times, yeah,
where you're like, but I was 

616
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,760
there. 
It was like, so I was so scared,

617
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,240
you know, and I think that's 
like the whole part, you know, 

618
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,440
they're always like, Christy, 
push back. 

619
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,720
I, I, you know, sometimes I'm 
like, oh, you know, I'll just go

620
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,760
with it. 
And they're like, no, we've 

621
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,920
really got to, you know, go back
and forth with them. 

622
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,280
So that's always been really 
fun. 

623
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Do you feel in these in these 
different locations now? 

624
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Did you do you get the history 
of them before you go? 

625
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,480
I assume so you sort of know 
what you're walking into. 

626
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Yeah. 
Do you think knowing that 

627
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,760
history, this might be a hard, I
don't know how to answer. 

628
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,280
This might be a tough question 
to answer because do you feel 

629
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,040
going into these places 
automatically changes your vibe 

630
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,480
about going in? 
Like, you know, the Shanley had 

631
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240
bootleggers and there was 
brothels and like he had died in

632
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,600
a well versus you're going into 
a library where it might be, you

633
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,400
know, it's not like 27 bodies 
are in there. 

634
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,000
You know what I mean? 
Like there's a different, you 

635
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,800
walk in with a different 
expectation. 

636
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Did you think that creates a 
different experience for you? 

637
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,880
I could see what you're saying, 
but to me, if somebody just says

638
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,240
like, Oh yeah, that place is 
haunted already, I'm like, you 

639
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,520
know what I mean? 
So this doesn't matter. 

640
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,080
I'm just like on edge like 
anything. 

641
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,400
And that library they like had a
lot of the lights off. 

642
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400
That was I would on all these 
things. 

643
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,280
I always on all these shoots, 
I'm always paired up with 

644
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,680
somebody. 
I'm just like fine, I like won't

645
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,400
go anywhere on my own that like 
and except for the bathroom and 

646
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,520
even then I'll try to hold it 
all night well. 

647
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,800
It it, it's funny you say it 
because that is actually my 

648
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,280
biggest issue with the paranorm.
You say the word haunted and 

649
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:25,000
automatically a place is, you 
know, scary and freaky. 

650
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,440
But in reality, there are a 
bunch of places that are, what 

651
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,600
I'd like to say, beautifully 
haunted. 

652
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,040
You know, the summer's mansion 
down in Cape May, the Tarry 

653
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:40,240
Townhouse Estate and in in 
Tarrytown, you know, the Ride 

654
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Playland, the Boardwalk, you 
know that whole, you go to those

655
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,320
places and there are so many 
different spirits and there's 

656
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,160
activity and there's 
conversations to be had. 

657
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Nothing scary, nothing evil, 
nothing horrible. 

658
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,320
It's still haunted. 
It's just not pushing down the 

659
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,160
stairs. 
Haunted. 

660
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Yeah, You know that's. 
The. 

661
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,560
That's the difference. 
If they said hey, we're going to

662
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,440
a place where, like demons, I 
would go. 

663
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,680
No, right? 
But yeah, beautifully haunted. 

664
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,960
I could see that, you know, it's
just spirits trying to get 

665
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,960
through, you know? 
I keep telling John, it's like, 

666
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,600
why can't someone find me like a
Four Seasons? 

667
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,680
That's haunted, you know what I 
mean? 

668
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,120
Like why is every place haunted?
Like cold, dark, like abandoned 

669
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,960
and asylum through. 
What I'm saying rotten pretty 

670
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,680
places I've ever gone to. 
I've listened. 

671
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Going to the Summers mansion, 
Excuse me, the southern mansion 

672
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,880
in Cape May at Christmas time is
wild. 

673
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,320
What makes even more wild is 
when the spirits are just so 

674
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,840
highly active, playing with the 
decorations, having 

675
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040
conversations about people being
there. 

676
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Same thing with the 
Tarrytownhouse estate. 

677
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,480
You know, go to the 
Tarrytownhouse Estate. 

678
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Just being in there, the place 
is beautiful. 

679
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,480
Hearing the spirits talk about 
the history and they do, they 

680
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,120
move objects in there. 
They'll knock on the door. 

681
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400
They'll, you know, they'll play 
with the doors. 

682
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,880
You know, just your wild stuff. 
And these are beautiful places. 

683
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,280
Well, let's talk about these 
four places that she's trying to

684
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,800
promote though, first and 
foremost. 

685
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,400
Well, no, I'm taking notes 
season. 

686
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,800
Take notes. 
See, John's got a ton. 

687
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,719
John might be a pop up season 3,
we don't know. 

688
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,400
Now the Shanley, the Shanley is 
open as a haunted hotel like 

689
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,520
they are. 
The Shanley's business is being 

690
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,360
a haunted hotel, right? 
That's their that's their angle.

691
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,840
It is Kings. 
Is that what Kingsland Manor is?

692
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,760
It's sort of a tour, like that's
sort of an architectural. 

693
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,880
This it's more of like, you 
know, a cool old estate. 

694
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,040
They give historical tours. 
I think people can have like a 

695
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520
party there, you know, rent 
things out so. 

696
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,159
But it's, but it is meant for, 
it is just for visiting. 

697
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:54,719
In that sense, it's not a 
function. 

698
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,880
It's not like it's functioning 
as something else and then it's 

699
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,480
also haunted. 
Yeah, I mean, I they do do tours

700
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,400
like daily or I think weekend 
tours like hey, you know the 

701
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,040
history of this place. 
But and then yeah, they have the

702
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,080
the. 
Oh, so they do both. 

703
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
They have like history tours 
and. 

704
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560
I don't even, I don't even know.
I think it's just paranormal 

705
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,800
teams that will go. 
I don't think they do haunt it. 

706
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,280
But you know what, I'll have to 
look into that. 

707
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,320
I thought I knew. 
It, but then what? 

708
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,480
But then, like the library in 
the backroom, is the backroom 

709
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,480
still open as a? 
Bar OK so the library oh also 

710
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,160
that library packed on a 
Saturday night like we went 

711
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,840
there on a Saturday night it was
like closing time at like 5 I 

712
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,760
think we got there and it was so
many people there. 

713
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,960
It is like the place to go, 
which is great. 

714
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,360
I love. 
But like for what? 

715
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,640
Like to study people like to 
really read books or they. 

716
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,720
Books they have different 
programs giant chess board I 

717
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,800
mean you got to go to the 
Middletown library and there 

718
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,960
were so many people like there 
on a Saturday big children's 

719
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880
department. 
So I even brought my kids inside

720
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,360
for that one. 
We I stayed the night, you know,

721
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,680
in a hotel and but the kids, you
know, so they, they and of 

722
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,320
course they were so scared. 
I don't want to go outside. 

723
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,240
I sound. 
Scared. 

724
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,480
Yeah, of course they're scared. 
You're just going to be we're 

725
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,720
not even started. 
There's people like still 

726
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:14,240
checking out books, kids, you 
know, So you know, that was the 

727
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,080
their expectation. 
Meanwhile, the guest reader is a

728
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,040
spirit now. 
Yeah, exactly. 

729
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,400
But the Backroom? 
Oh, I want to spend some time 

730
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,120
talking about that. 
The Backroom is a Speakeasy in 

731
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,720
New York. 
But like a real Speakeasy, you 

732
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:29,800
know, you hear it's. 
Still functioning. 

733
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,920
There's still an open bar like 
it's still an opening 

734
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,760
functioning bar. 
Yeah. 

735
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,480
So it was the back of Ratner's, 
which was a deli and it it, you 

736
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
know, so there was the deli and 
then in the back there was this,

737
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,560
you know, the back of Ratner's. 
And it was a Speakeasy. 

738
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,760
And I mean, some big names from 
Prohibition era would, you know,

739
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,480
were said to have frequented 
there. 

740
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,600
And the owner was great. 
He, you know, told us all about 

741
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,920
the history. 
He knew so much 'cause he, you 

742
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,520
know, he knew the family and you
know, when he took over and all 

743
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,200
of that, you know, you know, so 
he knew a lot of the history 

744
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,160
beforehand, but that place was 
really cool and so popular as 

745
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,920
well. 
So it was shut down for a 

746
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,800
private event that day. 
We got in there early and then 

747
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,440
the private event was happening,
but we were trying to tape 

748
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,200
different things and you 
literally have to go in between.

749
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,400
You really have to know where 
you're going. 

750
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,520
It's like in between two 
buildings and then you go in 

751
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,120
this gate and you go down some 
stairs and then you go up like, 

752
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,960
it's a a lot to get to. 
And we were trying to tape 

753
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,600
different things and people 
would knock and they're like all

754
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,160
dressed up. 
They want to come in and we're 

755
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,880
like, oh, I'm sorry. 
They're like closed. 

756
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,400
And they're like, really. 
And I'm like, I don't even work 

757
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,760
there. 
I'm like, I'm sorry. 

758
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,840
And you know, some people are 
even tourists and they're like, 

759
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,160
we only have one more night. 
I, you know, me. 

760
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,800
I'm like, oh, well, maybe we 
should come in, you know, But we

761
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,800
were, we were busy doing stuff. 
But it's popular. 

762
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,680
And I was talking to other 
people too. 

763
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,680
And it's a beautiful place. 
Like a Victorian typesetting. 

764
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,080
They serve their drinks and tea 
cups and they have a fire. 

765
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,920
We actually went there on Friday
the 13th. 

766
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,800
And then there's a backroom to 
the backroom. 

767
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,920
So you push this bookcase and 
then you're in that area. 

768
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,440
That's fun. 
Oh, and the amount of 

769
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,360
celebrities that have been there
too. 

770
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Pearl Jam apparently like 
opening night maybe of that bar.

771
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,200
Pearl Jam's been there, Adele, 
like all these people. 

772
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,400
So that was a really cool 
experience that so many and I 

773
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,280
don't even know if everyone that
goes there knows the haunted, 

774
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,800
you know, so so that was really 
cool. 

775
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,920
That is cool. 
I like that. 

776
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,120
Yeah, it seems haunted. 
Yeah, I mean. 

777
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,000
Like that seems like a place. 
Yeah. 

778
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,920
Right. 
I don't know about taking your 

779
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,080
kids to a haunted library 
though. 

780
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,760
Someone's going to call CPS on 
you as long. 

781
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,120
As they're learning, as long as 
they get some education. 

782
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,640
And why not, right? 
Bring your kids to work day. 

783
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,680
It's like that's not what they 
thought. 

784
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,440
They thought they were going to 
like the news and see like a 

785
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,120
Newsday. 
Maybe ride around with some cops

786
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,920
or something, like mom's a 
journalist in the city. 

787
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,320
It's like, no, no, we're going 
to Middletown. 

788
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,600
We're going to go to this 
library. 

789
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,720
Scott goes to have fun. 
They. 

790
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,240
Have fun. 
You go over there and they had 

791
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,600
more fun. 
Over there, kids. 

792
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Yeah, the Hilton, we, we stayed 
at some Hilton with a pool, an 

793
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,680
indoor pool. 
They were like all about that 

794
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,520
pool. 
They still talk. 

795
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,600
About Oh, sure. 
Well, this is very exciting, 

796
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Christy. 
I mean, it's, it's OK. 

797
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,160
Here's I want to ask you this 
and it's we actually, this is 

798
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,880
the first time you were on and 
I'm gonna ask you again. 

799
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,880
And I don't, I don't, I don't 
remember your answer. 

800
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,480
So I'm gonna have fun going back
and looking at it. 

801
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,240
So, but I like to ask this 
question to begin just to get a 

802
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,520
baseline for where everyone's 
coming coming from. 

803
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Christy, what do you think 
spirits are? 

804
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,400
You get right into it. 
You get right into it. 

805
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Yeah. 
Well, I guess I've always 

806
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,080
thought it's a sort of presence.
I think, you know, initially I 

807
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,600
thought a spirit is like, Boo, 
you know, you see something, I'm

808
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,080
picking up a bottle. 
But the older I get, and then 

809
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,480
probably definitely after doing 
this project, I feel like some, 

810
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,560
you know, it can be different 
things. 

811
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,000
For a lot of people, and 
especially the people I've met 

812
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,440
through this project, it can 
feel really, you know, heavy at 

813
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,480
times. 
A spirit, a feeling, maybe a 

814
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,280
touch. 
You know, so it means something 

815
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,480
to different people. 
But what does it mean to you? 

816
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,960
I guess a spirit, I would say a 
presence that you just can't 

817
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000
explain. 
Now that you've done this again 

818
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,000
and there's some time between 
the first time has, can you tell

819
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,400
me what do you think spirits 
are? 

820
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,360
Oh, well, I thought I was like, 
I can't. 

821
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,120
That's the question you asked. 
What do I think the spirits are?

822
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,640
And I think. 
Maybe we'll see. 

823
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:43,040
I think spirits are, I would say
something from the other side 

824
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,240
tried to communicate. 
All right, so there's another 

825
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,120
side. 
Now there's another side, right?

826
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,240
And. 
Christy's like now she's saying 

827
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,680
there's another side. 
No, but it's interesting, right?

828
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,000
The more you the more you get 
into it. 

829
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,640
And this is a bad word. 
And I don't mean to use the word

830
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,320
coincidences because I I agree 
with John there. 

831
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,720
It's not, but you start to see 
these things and these patterns 

832
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,240
and these quote UN quote 
coincidence and it be you start 

833
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:12,760
to realize like what it it's 
just too often it's just it's 

834
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,280
you know, it's like, how can 
that be A to be a coincidence, 

835
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,520
to be a coincidence? 
But it's, you know, why is this 

836
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,320
happening here now then, you 
know, with this person, with 

837
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,560
the, you know, why, why did your
cameraman was who just lost his 

838
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,000
mother having these, these 
moments, these answers, you 

839
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,240
know, it's crazy. 
Yeah. 

840
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,080
Why? 
That's OK. 

841
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,760
Why is it that we go on this 
show or, you know, why is it 

842
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,160
that we get all these 
recommendations of places to go 

843
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,120
and then things actually 
happened to us there? 

844
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,960
You know, that's wild, you know,
and, and a lot of it, like when 

845
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,320
we were in the library, we were 
in this one section for a while 

846
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,840
and nothing was happening, you 
know, so sometimes there's a lot

847
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,440
of sitting and waiting and, you 
know, now maybe you have that 

848
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,760
happen too. 
And so we were like, OK, we'll 

849
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,160
move on. 
And I'm like, oh, is this going 

850
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,720
to be the place where we're 
like, we need to book another 

851
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,840
place? 
But then stuff started 

852
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,240
happening. 
We wouldn't you know, it was. 

853
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,200
Well, that's I, I look at that 
as part of the, as part of the 

854
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,280
experience, right? 
If you go, if you go, if I go to

855
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,680
a location and every time, every
time, it's just like high 

856
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,640
activity, especially a location 
that I don't have control over, 

857
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,440
I'm going to get suspicious. 
I'm going to be like, wait a 

858
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,280
minute, what's going on here? 
What's going on here? 

859
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,880
Who's, who's pulling the string 
somewhere, right? 

860
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
No, seriously, it's just like 
the way it is. 

861
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,320
So like it, it's good to go to 
some places and have it be 

862
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,000
sometimes quiet. 
You know, something will still 

863
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,920
come through, something will 
still do something. 

864
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,200
But it's great data because I 
look at it all as, you know, 

865
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:40,640
data, taking it in and whatnot 
when I do my documentation. 

866
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,240
Christie spoils. 
She's like, I want some ghosts. 

867
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,080
I got we got the crew. 
I want things moving. 

868
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,800
I've been to the best haunted 
places in the tri-state area and

869
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,560
we've had some shit happen and I
don't. 

870
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,640
Middletown, CT you better, you 
better deliver the goods. 

871
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,760
I'm in New York City, we're in 
the big leagues. 

872
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
You're going to, you want to 
step up and come to the show, 

873
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,960
you better start shaking some 
books off these shelves. 

874
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,160
And then she's going to bounce 
and she's going to bump them and

875
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,880
bring on another another 
location. 

876
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,360
This is New York. 
We don't mess around with 

877
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,040
Middletown unless they bring the
goods. 

878
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,720
There is this one, the one of 
the first when we had filmed it 

879
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640
was another Connecticut one and 
they were like, if you're here, 

880
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,040
drop this book. 
I was like, Oh my gosh, that 

881
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,320
book drops. 
I was really afraid then, but 

882
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,760
now I think I'm more open. 
I'm like, OK, well, I got all my

883
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,880
friends here. 
But yeah, season 3 we're we're 

884
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,560
scouting places already. 
We've heard like Haunted 

885
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Lighthouse, we're looking into a
lot so. 

886
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,840
Cool. 
Yeah, amazing. 

887
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,200
That's well, Christy, look, I, 
I, I want to thank you for 

888
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,600
coming back on telling us about 
heart to tri-state. 

889
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,160
It's a really it's a really good
series you guys make. 

890
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,240
I mean, it is, it's well done 
and I think. 

891
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,240
And one of the best areas for 
it. 

892
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,040
One of the best areas for it and
it and it it it's got it. 

893
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
The skepticism angle, even 
though, you know, I question it 

894
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,240
and I question those guys. 
It's the right angle for a news 

895
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,600
version of this world, right? 
It's a well done piece. 

896
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,440
It's what makes it different 
than every other ghost show. 

897
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,240
It's experiencing it through 
your eyes as as a new person to 

898
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,080
the space. 
It's it's well done in that way.

899
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,040
It's like, like I said, you get 
the history, you get the 

900
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,640
experience and you get some 
answers at the end of you know 

901
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,560
what if like what could it be? 
Which is what a balance, which 

902
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,760
is what you expect to watch a 
paranormal show coming out of 

903
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,560
the of a news station or what 
you'd hope to expect. 

904
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,320
Think you guys do a great job. 
We love having you on and I 

905
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,720
really thank you for giving us 
your time again today. 

906
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Oh, and we're getting ready to 
have yeah, no, and we're getting

907
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,200
ready to have a marathon because
it coming up, it's like halfway 

908
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520
to Halloween. 
And so we're going to do like 

909
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,120
all 8 episodes that we've aired.
They're going to air on News 12.

910
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,880
You can watch us on the 
streaming into TV. 

911
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,720
That's a news station we have. 
So there are lots of channels 

912
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:56,440
and ways to watch that marathon.
Can you believe Halfway to 

913
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Halloween's coming up? 
It's goes to, it's crazy how 

914
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,600
fast we we lose. 
The school's almost done. 

915
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,120
It's like it's nuts, right? 
We got to get into that whole 

916
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,040
thing. 
All right, Christy, thank you so

917
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,920
much. 
Thank you. 

918
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,360
Thank. 
You so much it was remembering 

919
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,280
you on again. 
We'll, yeah, we'll anytime you 

920
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,200
want, just let me know. 
And you just leave that browser 

921
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,520
window open until it says upload
complete and, you know, keep 

922
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,640
those attachments away. 
Don't bring them home. 

923
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,040
Well, thank you so much guys. 
All right, we'll see you. 

924
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,120
She's fun and hopefully you'll 
get on, you'll get on board with

925
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,720
one of those in the near future 
and hopefully she'll give you a 

926
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,920
call because I think, you know, 
you've got some of those. 

927
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,440
You never know. 
You never know. 

928
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,320
That'll be a good one. 
Yeah, let's. 

929
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,400
I would also. 
I don't. 

930
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,320
I would. 
Also think it'd be cool to tag 

931
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,680
along right like and and not 
instead of going to like one of 

932
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,600
the spots I always go to go to a
brand new spot with them. 

933
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,720
Almost like, you know, like 
they're bringing in an 

934
00:45:57,720 --> 00:45:59,840
investigator on their team type 
deal. 

935
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,840
She's bringing it like she 
mentioned, it's funny, like, you

936
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,440
know, we, we saw, we know 
Scotty, we know who Scotty the 

937
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,280
medium is. 
You know him with Scotty. 

938
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,040
We're waiting for you to come on
the show, but. 

939
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,440
I stopped waiting. 
He'll come on, buddy, but you 

940
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,440
know. 
But we like Scotty, so he was 

941
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,160
there at the Shanley 99 Lives 
Paranormal, who I've spoken to 

942
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,320
quite a bit. 
And you're going to be at their 

943
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,680
hollow, the Hollow Con in Jersey
in Aug at the end of August. 

944
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,520
So we'll have them on. 
We'll have them on right before 

945
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,760
that to to do some last minute 
promotion. 

946
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,400
Now we have somebody in the chat
last night brought that up. 

947
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Yeah. 
They're like, oh, I can't wait 

948
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,880
to see you at the Hollow. 
Yeah, it took me a second and 

949
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,840
I'm like, Oh yeah, that's right.
That's coming up in August. 

950
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,160
Yeah, these things are planned 
so far in advance, you know, for

951
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,520
you, it's like we got to keep 
you sharp up to the you. 

952
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,440
Got to keep. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 

953
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,720
Think, think of me as a 
penciler, stick of, you know, a 

954
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,080
pencil, I said. 
A penciler. 

955
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,400
A pencil. 
A penciler, it's like, it's just

956
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,200
for the penciler. 
You're like a, you're like a 

957
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,320
Batman villain. 
The penciler. 

958
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,320
It's like number. 
One or #2? 

959
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,320
Right, yes. 
You know, it's like, how do we 

960
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,040
stop the penciler? 
How do we stop the penciler? 

961
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,600
You got sharpened me like a 
pencil. 

962
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,120
There we go. 
It's so silly. 

963
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Penciler dude, that's. 
Actually really funny. 

964
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,440
That is funny. 
All right. 

965
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,720
Hey, Chad, what's going on in 
there? 

966
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:19,200
We got some good little crowd 
here tonight. 

967
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,960
What's anybody have any 
questions? 

968
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:23,360
You know, again, that was 
Christian Reader from News 12. 

969
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,960
We will if you look in the link,
she in our bio, she's there and 

970
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,080
the link to the YouTube channel 
is there and you should check 

971
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,680
out these, these hunter trices. 
It's 20 minutes. 

972
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:39,560
Karina yes, sky to the medium. 
We're a big fan to his most of 

973
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,720
this chat. 
They you know, what's funny 

974
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,680
about this chat, this community 
is all they do is say they say 

975
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,000
hi to each other like hey, 
someone. 

976
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,920
So hey, it is and it's like hi, 
hi, you guys. 

977
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,320
It's like they're all just 
talking to themselves. 

978
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,120
It's it's like this and they're 
listening. 

979
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,560
They're listening. 
This is our show. 

980
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,440
It's like they'll talk to each 
other. 

981
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,320
It's like pay some, pay goddamn 
attention to us. 

982
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,920
You look at us, you look at us. 
You talk to each other, talk to.

983
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,640
You what do. 
You think we're wasting our time

984
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,320
here so you can be like hi to 
each other? 

985
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,200
It's outrageous, these guys, the
rude rudeness. 

986
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Let's see, I'm scrolling up here
looking for looking for some 

987
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,160
names. 
David from Clearwater Beach, FL 

988
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,400
Welcome. 
I don't know if you're still 

989
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,520
here, but if you were, you just 
got a shout out. 

990
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,800
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

991
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,320
Got a lot of classics. 
Christina. 

992
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,120
Christina's a big fan. 
She comments a lot. 

993
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,440
Very engaged. 
Welcome. 

994
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,840
Thank you for being here. 
Chat right now, Yeah. 

995
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,560
You guys got any questions for? 
Chumming. 

996
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,120
Chumming was here. 
I just noticed them chumming 

997
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,320
with experience. 
Hey guys, good to see you. 

998
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,840
Glad you showed up. 
They, they were bringing up the 

999
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,640
Stanley Hotel where the Estes 
method was. 

1000
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,320
That'd be so fun for you and I 
to go there, which I mean, 

1001
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,080
wouldn't it be fun, John, to do 
like our big group Estes method 

1002
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,920
at in Estes? 
Stanley Yeah, that'd be cool. 

1003
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,840
That'd be wild. 
We'll have to figure that out. 

1004
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,280
It's a possibility. 
We'll have to talk to them 

1005
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,080
obviously and all that because 
they're very strict, you know, 

1006
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,760
investigators and and people 
doing paranormal there, 

1007
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,000
rightfully so it's an active 
hotel, you know. 

1008
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,840
People, a lot of, but a lot of 
people do go there and do 

1009
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,840
investigations, so. 
Oh yeah, they just don't, you 

1010
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,960
know, they don't have full reign
of the place, right? 

1011
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,800
So doing a group S this method 
that takes some planning. 

1012
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,160
They must have a ballroom. 
Yeah. 

1013
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,560
Because I would love. 
To take your ballroom. 

1014
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,920
But I would love to take that 
picture, like that famous 

1015
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,120
picture at the end of The 
Shining when they're all, you 

1016
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,800
know, like the one. 
And then like you see Jack 

1017
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,440
Nicholson standing in there. 
You know what I'm talking about 

1018
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,240
when they zoom in and he's in 
the picture. 

1019
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,480
But we would, it would be us. 
So we would have to do it. 

1020
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,760
We'd all have to be in tuxedos, 
and we would all have to. 

1021
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,160
Dude, that whole, let me let me 
tell you something, that whole 

1022
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,560
universe, that whole universe, 
whether he, whether whether 

1023
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:00,000
Stephen King planned that or 
realized all the thread 

1024
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,000
connections to it is genius. 
Well, he's a genius, dude. 

1025
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:05,560
You're not. 
Stephen King is a genius. 

1026
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,920
Yeah. 
Like, like, like, you know, 

1027
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,720
doctor sleep, the tower, dot, 
even the even the the the recent

1028
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,680
welcome to dairy. 
You know, the whole thing was, I

1029
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,880
think we spoke about this 
before. 

1030
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,240
I liked it. 
Online or me and you had this 

1031
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:19,840
conversation. 
I don't know, like the whole 

1032
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,560
thing is all tied in. 
Or was it? 

1033
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,400
Is it a recalled memory like 
total recall where you like? 

1034
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,360
Dude, it could be this. 
We could have had this 

1035
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,000
conversation in the multiverse 
somewhere, you know? 

1036
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,160
It's a possibility. 
What's up, JD? 

1037
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,560
I was talking, I was on the I 
went on the chumming with the 

1038
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,520
spirits live. 
They had a live last night. 

1039
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Like those guys. 
They're good guys. 

1040
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,360
They actually like make stuff. 
I think I got to talk to them 

1041
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,600
about it. 
They like make logos. 

1042
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,320
I think that's, I don't know 
what their day business is, but 

1043
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,760
it's cool. 
But they're fun. 

1044
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,880
They're a couple of fun fellas. 
Again, chumming with the 

1045
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,200
spirits. 
We had an interview with them. 

1046
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,280
Yeah, it was cool. 
Great podcast, who knows? 

1047
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,560
Anybody. 
Else have any questions? 

1048
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,600
Anybody else want to know what's
going on in the in the world? 

1049
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,280
I don't even know Jack Nicholson
had a son. 

1050
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,080
Luanne, thank you for like for 
the great live Instagram. 

1051
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,560
You guys got any questions? 
I can see you as well if you're 

1052
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,920
watching. 
I can only see the why, I can 

1053
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,520
only see the YouTube chat. 
OK, I can see them all. 

1054
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,560
They're all mixed in. 
I can. 

1055
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,960
Only see the YouTube chat top 
guys. 

1056
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160
Have you seen Nicholson's son? 
No. 

1057
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,440
Is he a ghost? 
I. 

1058
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:37,080
Hope not sad. 
Comes out, looks like the Joker.

1059
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,880
Well, you know. 
Nicholson's going to be a ghost 

1060
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,040
soon, I think. 
The poor guy. 

1061
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,040
How old is he? 
He's. 

1062
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,200
He's out there, man. 
He retired from acting for a 

1063
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,440
while. 
It's like Senna can't really do 

1064
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,040
it, Can't really do it anymore. 
Yeah, it happens, you know, 

1065
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,160
Yeah. 
Yeah, what are the? 

1066
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,000
Great about all the bands we 
listen to right now. 

1067
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,520
Consider classic rock so it 
shows you. 

1068
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,560
It's a, there's a, you know, You
know, you're old. 

1069
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,600
Yes, I, I, I can't, I can't take
credit for this joke. 

1070
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,560
Some comedian said it, but it 
was one of those things where, 

1071
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,920
you know, you're really old when
that band that you used to 

1072
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,400
listen to as a teenager that 
your parents hated is now 

1073
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,360
playing in the grocery store as 
you're walking through the 

1074
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,040
aisle, like I was in the grocery
store the other day and they're 

1075
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,200
playing welcome to the jungle 
and like route. 

1076
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,400
It's just like, Oh my God, you 
know, it's just so you know what

1077
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,720
I mean. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1078
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:30,520
That was and now it's the, you 
know, it's just part of the OK. 

1079
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,720
It was like the other day. 
The other day I was forced to 

1080
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:36,040
listen to the regular radio, so 
I listened to the classic rock 

1081
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,640
station on, you know, Metallica 
song came on. 

1082
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,440
I'm like, really? 
Yeah, I guess this is considered

1083
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,240
classic rock, that a freaking 
Nirvana song comes on and I'm 

1084
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:48,320
like, well, I guess that's 
considered classic rock too, to 

1085
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
30 years old. 
Metallica is 40 years old. 

1086
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,240
Metallica is 45 years old. 
They've been around for 45 

1087
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:54,320
years. 
Yeah. 

1088
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,960
You know what I mean? 
Yeah. 

1089
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,280
The rest of them, those other 
guys are 30 years old. 

1090
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:00,920
Yeah. 
I mean it's. 

1091
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Still, it's still, you know. 
They're old, dude. 

1092
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,600
Yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

1093
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,560
It's crazy to think about and 
just think about. 

1094
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:12,880
So then here's my question. 
What is all the classic rock 

1095
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,800
when we were growing up? 
What is that considered now? 

1096
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,240
Is that oldies? 
Is that like? 

1097
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,400
Rock or oldies? 
When does it get moved down? 

1098
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Yeah, when does it get moved 
down? 

1099
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,000
Dude, I don't know what's a good
question. 

1100
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,320
That's a real yeah. 
Like, like thinking about like 

1101
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,760
what do you consider Led 
Zeppelin, ACDC, You know, I 

1102
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,360
think what about the bands that 
are still out there that are 

1103
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,240
still making music? 
Like what do you, what do you 

1104
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:42,040
consider Judas Priest? 
You know, like they're, you 

1105
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,480
know, they released a new album 
last year, I believe. 

1106
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,000
It's like, wait a minute. 
You know, it's really, it's 

1107
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,080
really interesting to think 
about. 

1108
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,520
Maybe it's only yeah, it's it's 
it'd have to be like, who 

1109
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,120
designs the programming for 
these radio? 

1110
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,640
Because for us, I think our 
classic rock will always be 

1111
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,360
classic rock, and we'll always 
call Nirvana grunge. 

1112
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,280
Yes, yes. 
Because that's our generation. 

1113
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,880
But it's like your kids. 
What's your kids call Nirvana? 

1114
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,160
Yep. 
And how much of that music is 

1115
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,600
now called emo? 
Or would they just say who? 

1116
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,280
Like I can't tell you how many 
times like somebody younger 

1117
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,320
generation will all around me 
will be like, oh, Oh yeah, that 

1118
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,560
emo band. 
And I'm like, homie, Alice In 

1119
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,920
Chains is not an emo band. 
Relax, Pump the brakes. 

1120
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:28,240
But to their generation, it's 
it's considered emo, even though

1121
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,800
it's not, you know, My Chemical 
Romance. 

1122
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,160
Well, that's just a lack of 
education. 

1123
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,960
That's just a lack of education.
I don't know. 

1124
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,720
Yeah, we have an education 
problem in this country and it 

1125
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:39,120
starts. 
With music, yeah, it stops from 

1126
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,840
music, dude. 
Hell yeah, it starts with music.

1127
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,240
Starts with music. 
It doesn't stop. 

1128
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,640
Nope, does not. 
Create 100%. 

1129
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,160
So bad. 
It is wild Elevator. 

1130
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,160
It's elevator. 
Music. 

1131
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,280
It's elevator. 
Music. 

1132
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,320
I'm CIA. 
I'm going through. 

1133
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,880
Yeah. 
Get your smoking truck. 

1134
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,560
Yes, yes. 
So crazy. 

1135
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,840
It's so crazy to think about. 
I don't know, man, what about 

1136
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,400
and what? 
And, you know, tie it back into 

1137
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,040
spirits, you know, like, what do
you think spirits think of music

1138
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,880
of today when they hear it? 
I guess it depends on when they 

1139
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,640
died. 
But I'll give you an example. 

1140
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,880
I used to when I used to leave 
the static Cam on the static 

1141
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,480
stream on here around Christmas 
time, I used to make a whole 

1142
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Christmas playlist of Christmas 
music, you know, and then you 

1143
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,480
know, leave, leave it on at the 
fireplace room and leave the 

1144
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,800
live on. 
So I had the spirit boxes going 

1145
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,040
and the Christmas music going. 
At some point the spirits would 

1146
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,840
literally switch off the 
Christmas music and put on 

1147
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,400
regular music. 
And it was like, wait a minute, 

1148
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,920
the playlist wasn't up. 
There's over, you know, there's 

1149
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,840
hours of music in here. 
Like wait a minute, hold on, 

1150
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,240
time out. 
You know, it's actually pretty 

1151
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:52,520
funny. 
They turn off the Christmas. 

1152
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,640
Music they had, they had taste, 
but what they put on is the 

1153
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,440
question. 
I can't remember. 

1154
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,280
Laura Mack Yes. 
My Chemical Romance My Chemical 

1155
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,080
Romance is a great band. 
They're very performative. 

1156
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,280
I like them a lot. 
They're great. 

1157
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,440
That guy delivers. 
The Black Parade is probably 1 

1158
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,960
of. 
That guy delivers the goods. 

1159
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,240
Well that lead singer delivers 
it. 

1160
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:12,880
He brings it like 1000% every 
time he opens his mouth like he 

1161
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,520
not. 
That's not even my generation of

1162
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,680
music. 
Like when I was a teenager that 

1163
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,520
wasn't, well, actually, that's 
not true. 

1164
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,800
When I was about to leave high 
school or already just left high

1165
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,600
school, that's when like My 
Chemical Romance and like emo 

1166
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,800
was big, you know, so that's 
when it was like really big, but

1167
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,240
I couldn't get into a lot of the
bands. 

1168
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,360
My Chemical Romance definitely 
an exception. 

1169
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,080
Do great bands like. 
What's the new? 

1170
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,040
What's the newest band you've 
heard of? 

1171
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,080
A new I mean that you like. 
All right, so I'm throwing this 

1172
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,720
in there as new well these so. 
Better be new Volbeat. 

1173
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,120
Even though they've been around 
for a bit now. 

1174
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,680
Volbeat. 
OK, I like yeah, but they 

1175
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,400
haven't been they they. 
Are they Dutch or some shit like

1176
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,120
there's? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1177
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,480
Volbeat Ghost. 
I love ghost. 

1178
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,080
Ghost. 
I love ghost. 

1179
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,200
And I've seen them that I love. 
They're awesome. 

1180
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,080
So funny. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1181
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Totally Satanic. 
And I love everything. 

1182
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,120
About it. 
I love it. 

1183
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,840
I love every second of them. 
Every second. 

1184
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,160
Especially just growing up, you 
know, You know, with Catholicism

1185
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,120
shoved down your throat. 
All of their music has so much 

1186
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,080
highlights of that. 
Oh, I love it. 

1187
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,600
It's not even fun. 
Ghost is great. 

1188
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,080
Great bad omens. 
They're they're they're is that?

1189
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,400
New. 
Yeah, yeah, that's new newish, 

1190
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,160
right? 
Other than that, like I don't 

1191
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,800
hear any like, like real good, 
like rock or metal. 

1192
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,640
And I'm like, Oh yeah, this is 
awesome. 

1193
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Other than what older bands or 
new music that they're coming 

1194
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,200
out with, you know? 
There's just one playlist I 

1195
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,520
listened to. 
There's just one playlist on 

1196
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,120
Spotify. 
Listen to It's called Dirty Rock

1197
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,480
and they have some they have 
some bands that I like like. 

1198
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,960
Dirty rock. 
Yeah, because it's like that. 

1199
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,920
It's, you know, it's like a 
royal blood. 

1200
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,240
Oh Royal Blood is great. 
Yep Yep, that's you. 

1201
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,880
Consider them a newer band. 
Royal blood, There's another 

1202
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,360
Hold on. 
Let me pull this up because I 

1203
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,480
got to find it but. 
I stood next to the guitarist of

1204
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,800
Led Zeppelin without even 
realizing. 

1205
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,640
What's his name? 
Paige. 

1206
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,560
Jimmy Page. 
Why? 

1207
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,720
Because you thought it was an 
old woman. 

1208
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,200
You know, Well, yeah, but I 
stood right that. 

1209
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,640
Looks like an old woman now. 
This is like Rick, you know? 

1210
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,640
True story 100%. 
I stood right next to him at a 

1211
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,200
Royal Blood concert in New York 
City and had no idea it was him,

1212
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,600
No idea it was him jamming out 
to Royal Blood when I saw him. 

1213
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,080
No idea. 
You know, it's one of my buddies

1214
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,360
is like, dude, that's Jimmy 
Page. 

1215
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,160
And I'm like, what? 
And then we looked into it and 

1216
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,760
he's a fan of the band, so, but 
pretty interesting, which 

1217
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,560
they're great bands. 
Oh, good. 

1218
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,680
Goodbye Jane. 
Goodbye June. 

1219
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,920
Goodbye June. 
I like. 

1220
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,120
That's a good. 
What's what's that other Led 

1221
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,800
Zeppelin esque band that came 
out? 

1222
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,720
They have this song. 
It's. 

1223
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,200
Greta Van Fleet Greta Van Fleet.
The other one, the other one, 

1224
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,200
oh, I'm going to draw on a 
blank. 

1225
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,320
Oh, why might you want to blank 
on the band? 

1226
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,000
That one song's called Electric.
The other song is they're, 

1227
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,760
they're very showy too. 
Like they get on stage and they 

1228
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,440
just, you know, like. 
Sure it's not Greta Van Fleet. 

1229
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,560
They sound just like Zeppelin. 
No, no, it's not Greta Van 

1230
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Fleet. 
It's I can't, I can't remember 

1231
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,760
the name of them. 
It's not Greta Van Fleet though,

1232
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,640
but they do sound just like 
Zeppelin. 

1233
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,840
They sound just like, I mean, 
they really, they really bring 

1234
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,240
trying to bring it back. 
But music wise, there's not. 

1235
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,600
Did you know what I've gotten 
into was I got into real 

1236
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,160
instrumental funk music? 
And there's this like thing, 

1237
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,080
there's this playlist called 
Fake Music and they take and 

1238
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,200
they just, it's, I get, I don't 
know if they use AI, but they've

1239
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,720
like turned songs that you love 
into like a instrumental funk. 

1240
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,000
And it's, oh, that's great. 
It's so great. 

1241
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,040
Isn't it good? 
Yeah. 

1242
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,800
When I'm driving, it feels like 
driving music. 

1243
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,600
So I'm in like we're in our cars
a lot in LA, right? 

1244
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,240
So I'm like in there, and it 
just feels like, you know, it's 

1245
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,440
just like this good old school 
funk, you know? 

1246
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,600
Laura Mack I grew up Bowling For
Soup, Paramore, Green Day and 

1247
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,600
Panic at the Disco. 
I love Green Day. 

1248
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,120
I love Green Day. 
I like everything. 

1249
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,680
I like Green Day up until a 
certain point. 

1250
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,760
To be honest with you, it has 
nothing to do with their 

1251
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,840
political views or anything. 
It's just like the music just 

1252
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,800
started falling off for me. 
How dare you? 

1253
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,840
But I but I do like Green Day. 
JD JD Chumming says spirits like

1254
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,800
he's been on exhibition 
excursions where the spirits 

1255
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,320
have responded to the Backstreet
Boys and who does it, Pink Pony 

1256
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,520
Club. 
Those are both great. 

1257
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,720
Those are both great jams. 
I always love this. 

1258
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,480
This is part of the thing too, 
that I love about the Bruce 

1259
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,800
brothers, right? 
Like Noah versus the paranormal 

1260
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,360
and Jake, you know, that whole 
Spira. 

1261
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,000
And then they. 
Blast music out. 

1262
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,200
They blast the music. 
They go on the offensive, dude. 

1263
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,800
Those guys go on the offense. 
It makes me. 

1264
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,400
Laugh when they come on, dude. 
I just find it hysterical. 

1265
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,280
They are. 
They do some good stuff. 

1266
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,320
That guy Jake just came out with
a great video. 

1267
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,920
You know who we interviewed, 
where he went to all the 

1268
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,440
original spots of Ghost 
Adventures. 

1269
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,840
Yes, yes, I saw that by you. 
Really good guys Jake Bruce is 

1270
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,760
on the show and if you watch and
then he made he's always got 

1271
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,800
clips, but then he put up a real
a really well made hour 

1272
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,440
together. 
Real girl made episode of, you 

1273
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,880
know, getting some real 
reactions. 

1274
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,160
I mean how? 
I mean, you can't hate all these

1275
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,680
newcomers, dude. 
They're doing some, I don't know

1276
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:29,640
how. 
There's a lot of hate. 

1277
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,000
For them, dude, there's all, 
there's all for the young guy. 

1278
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,680
So young guys do some good stuff
and it's, you know, and it's 

1279
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,880
they're funny. 
I mean, how do you reinvent this

1280
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,960
genre? 
You know what I mean? 

1281
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,480
But it's there's a. 
Lot of hate. 

1282
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,240
For Laura Mac, No, Laura Mac's 
saying Rush. 

1283
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,800
He's asking the question. 
The answer is no Rush. 

1284
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,120
Listen, let's get into. 
We want to get into rush for a 

1285
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,840
minute, guys. 
Then then we got to jump. 

1286
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,840
No, here's the thing with rush. 
Rush. 

1287
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,400
And we're not making fun of 
Canada. 

1288
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,200
Maybe a little, but it. 
This has nothing to do with 

1289
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,720
Canada. 
Obviously super talented, these 

1290
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,720
guys, musicians, some of the 
greatest, or you know, probably 

1291
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,520
some of the greatest musicians 
you're ever going to find. 

1292
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,480
However, their constant time 
signature changes, it makes it 

1293
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,000
almost too complicated to truly 
enjoy. 

1294
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,920
That's why you don't see you 
barely see any girls at their 

1295
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,680
shows. 
You can't dance to it. 

1296
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,400
They don't. 
You know, it's just sort of a 

1297
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,760
whole like I was in a rush for 
this much of A time when I was 

1298
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,320
in high school because I was 
like, you know, this is really 

1299
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,040
great. 
And then you when you're driving

1300
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,200
alone in your car and you 
actually start having emotions 

1301
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,360
as an adult, you know, your for 
your go to isn't I'm going to 

1302
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,920
put on that rush song to make me
feel you're just not doing it. 

1303
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,640
It's just not going to happen. 
Well, well, that's dude. 

1304
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,720
It's, it's there's a difference 
between getting kind of 

1305
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,280
progressive and then way too 
progressive, right? 

1306
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,120
That's why progressive bands 
never really go anywhere. 

1307
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,440
Like, look at Dream Theater. 
Look at, you know, no. 

1308
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,440
Dude, that's too complicated, 
too complicated. 

1309
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,240
And it's like, you know, I 
can't. 

1310
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,960
And I get into this argument 
constantly. 

1311
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,040
Like, look, I loved Pearl Jam in
the 90s. 

1312
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,800
That was my college, you know, 
era, right, 9192. 

1313
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:13,760
And now as an adult, that shit 
does not speak to me at all. 

1314
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,080
And they are to me one of the 
most. 

1315
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,400
This is nothing to do with their
talent. 

1316
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,480
And Eddie Vedder might be one of
the greatest front men in the 

1317
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,760
history of singing and rock. 
His voice is like magic. 

1318
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,560
The songs are unfun. 
I don't want to ever be in my 

1319
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,000
car and put on a song about 
their. 

1320
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,520
Songs. 
They're unfun, dude. 

1321
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,440
They're popular. 
Songs. 

1322
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,000
But that's what I'm saying. 
Like songs like Do the 

1323
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,760
Evolution. 
But their most their most 

1324
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,760
popular song was the one was the
cover of the you know, like Last

1325
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,800
Kiss about the car accident. 
And it's like, and then you got 

1326
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,960
Jeremy, dude, I ever tell you 
this, I go to Jazz Fest in New 

1327
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,120
Orleans. 
We can end on this unfun story, 

1328
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,200
but it's like we go to jazz Fest
in New Orleans with my boys and 

1329
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,320
they were headlining one of the 
nights and you'd think, what are

1330
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,280
they going to do as their 
closing act? 

1331
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,560
And it's like when it goes and 
and Jazz Fest, if you've ever 

1332
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,560
anybody who's ever been ends 
relatively early because they 

1333
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,480
want people going back on 
Bourbon Street and partying, 

1334
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,360
right? 
They don't want you out. 

1335
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,760
You know, they want you back as 
fast as possible spending money.

1336
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:17,480
So these guys come out and dude,
they wheeled out Steve Gleason, 

1337
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,000
who from the New Orleans Saints,
who's got Lou Gehrig's disease, 

1338
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,320
and he's on stage while they do 
their last song. 

1339
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,560
And it's, I don't know about 
you, man, but that shit just is 

1340
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,520
not fun. 
I feel for the, I mean, what's 

1341
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,640
more tragic than a, than a 
professional athlete who's 

1342
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,000
trapped in his own mind, in his 
own body, right? 

1343
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:45,640
And it's to me that is not 
joyful and I'm not there for 

1344
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,280
that. 
And if that makes me cold, then 

1345
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,600
I'm freezing because I don't 
care because it's not. 

1346
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,760
Now the next night, Red Hot 
Chili Peppers, the complete 

1347
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,680
opposite, maybe the most fun 
band and they're still fun and 

1348
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,840
everything they do is fun. 
And it's dancing and it's chicks

1349
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,640
and it's fun and it's great. 
And Pearl Jam, it's like suicide

1350
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,600
deaths. 
It's beatings. 

1351
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,520
It's state, dude. 
They started in the 70s. 

1352
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,080
Red Hot Chili Peppers. 
Well, they started in high 

1353
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,400
school. 
They're not it's, they were, 

1354
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,320
well, you know, they're like 10 
years older than me. 

1355
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,120
So they couldn't have been the 
70s per SE. 

1356
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,040
I mean, they met when they were 
like. 

1357
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,600
It was like 7879 when they when 
they formed their band. 

1358
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,480
Yeah, which is wild, you know? 
Wild. 

1359
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,640
But you know what I know? 
Well, I'll give you the prime 

1360
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,880
example. 
There's something that just 

1361
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,640
passed. 
Well, it's almost been a year 

1362
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,520
now. 
In the summer, it will be. 

1363
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:40,680
Was Ozzy's final concert, dude, 
you know, there was nothing more

1364
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:46,160
sad seeing him strapped to his 
throne so he wouldn't fall off 

1365
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,440
and all that man wanted to do 
was get up out of his chair. 

1366
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,920
That's tough call, right? 
Dude, but like it was great. 

1367
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,040
He sounded great. 
It was just heartbreaking to see

1368
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,560
like, hey, you know, he's trying
to give it his all. 

1369
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,000
He knows it's his last, you 
know, he's doing his thing. 

1370
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,680
Same thing when I saw I saw 
Bowter Heads last concert. 

1371
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,800
Yeah. 
What's it called? 

1372
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,320
Last big. 
One of their last big ones. 

1373
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,960
You know, Lemmy couldn't even 
play anymore. 

1374
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,560
You know, the famous ace of 
spades. 

1375
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:19,200
This is him on the bass. 
Bom, bom, bom, bom. 

1376
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,320
That's all. 
That was the baseline. 

1377
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,960
He couldn't do anything else. 
Like, dude, it's heartbreaking 

1378
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,000
to see that, you know, you're 
like. 

1379
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,280
Yeah, there's a certain point. 
There's a certain point. 

1380
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,440
But anyway, I don't know. 
I still I was still sitting. 

1381
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,240
That slow down to end it. 
I know. 

1382
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,400
I would still say that's lots 
better than Steve Gleason coming

1383
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,880
out there. 
And we, you know, like in Lou 

1384
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,160
Gehrig's. 
I mean, it's just. 

1385
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,280
Like, oh God, that's like seeing
what's his face from Frighteners

1386
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,000
and Teen Wolf. 
What's his name? 

1387
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,600
Michael J Fox. 
Oh, yeah. 

1388
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,640
But he's still he's, you know, I
know It's not to me, it's not. 

1389
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,960
I mean, he's still, you know, 
look, that guy's America. 

1390
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,360
Michael J Fox, an American 
treasure. 

1391
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,120
And it's not it's. 
Not such a great actor too and. 

1392
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,320
He's still great. 
I mean, he was just in, he was, 

1393
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,720
he just did a he had a bit in 
shrinking on Apple, which is 

1394
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,680
great. 
He's still he's still still. 

1395
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,360
Yeah, yeah, it's a great show. 
He can still that is, I don't 

1396
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,320
know. 
This is something about the 

1397
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,560
whole the message. 
It doesn't connect with me 

1398
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,080
anymore for that bit for certain
moments. 

1399
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,600
But anyway, listen guys, thank 
you for coming by. 

1400
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,680
If you haven't done it already 
yet, please follow us on all of 

1401
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:25,480
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1402
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,040
Guys, the comments are great. 
They really help us out a lot. 

1403
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,760
Like share please here on 
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1404
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,760
We appreciate you. 
We want to thank Christy Reeder 

1405
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,200
for coming back on check out 
news 12. 

1406
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,760
Just type in haunted tri-state 
Tri. 

1407
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,480
State. 
Into YouTube and you can check 

1408
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,680
out those episodes. 
They're really great. 

1409
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,920
I mean, she does a good job that
whole that whole channel, those 

1410
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,520
producers do a great job. 
We love to have her on and if 

1411
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,040
you're coming in late and you're
like, oh damn, I missed it, 

1412
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,200
don't worry. 
This will be available tomorrow 

1413
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,000
wherever podcasts are and you 
can listen to it there and 

1414
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,000
listen to two guys talk about 
music like we're sitting in a 

1415
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,880
bar, like we know anything we're
talking about. 

1416
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,640
We're fans, We're fans. 
We've both been in bands. 

1417
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,600
We've opened up for other bands 
that have some sort of 

1418
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,920
notoriety. 
We've been in the, in the, 

1419
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,080
what's it called? 
We've been, we stood around a 

1420
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,200
little bit, you know? 
Hey, listen, Gary, wear the 

1421
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,359
penciler. 
Beware the penciler, guys. 

1422
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,319
That's your new Halloween. 
That's going to be the that's 

1423
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:27,880
going to be the the costume this
Halloween is the penciler. 

1424
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,560
The Penciler. 
It's not #2 you won't know what 

1425
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:37,640
to do, you know? 
Still go #2. 

1426
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:40,800
What do you used to call those 
tests you needed #2 pencils, 

1427
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,279
the. 
Oh, the all of every test. 

1428
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:43,560
I can't remember having it. 
Could you imagine? 

1429
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,640
What are they called? 
Pencils. 

1430
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,000
They're called something. 
They were called, not. 

1431
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,319
Well, yeah, the SAT, I mean 
everything had the SA, TS, 

1432
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,240
everything. 
Yeah, but that certain style 

1433
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,800
that only reads the number 2 is 
called. 

1434
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,160
The Oh yeah, I know what you're 
saying. 

1435
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,359
I don't know what it's called, 
but it was like it had to be. 

1436
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,800
They were. 
So there were such sticklers 

1437
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,040
about the number. 
Two. 

1438
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,479
Well, because it only reads the 
lead from the number 2. 

1439
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,560
That's what it was. 
There was a certain type of 

1440
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,640
style of testing lecture, 
something the, I don't know #2 

1441
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:09,960
the pensler. 
All right. 

1442
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,279
Everybody, thank you all for 
coming by. 

1443
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:15,240
It was been a real pleasure. 
Thank you, thank you and we will

1444
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:15,920
see you. 
Oh. 

1445
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,319
Shit, shit. 
If you didn't watch the Gary 

1446
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:23,000
Galka episode, it's out now. 
Wonderful episode. 

1447
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,279
The inventor of the SB-7, The 
Thing, the Rempod, the Mel meter

1448
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:30,080
that's out. 
And who's on Tuesday's episode? 

1449
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,880
Tessa Groff. 
That's right. 

1450
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:40,680
Big episode guys, big episode. 
We have her and right 

1451
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,880
back-to-back following her 
episode, Nick Groff, creator of 

1452
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,319
Ghost Adventures. 
So we've got both the Groffs, 

1453
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:50,680
the paranormal power couple. 
We're starting with Tessa, 

1454
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,080
psychic medium. 
I mean amazing woman, really 

1455
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,400
fun, really fun conversation, 
really interesting conversation 

1456
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,760
and is a big part of this 
paranormal world. 

1457
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,080
You know, when the Groffs are 
starting a little mini empire of

1458
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,840
theirs, you know, really 
building something up, a family 

1459
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,960
business like the Partridge 
family of ghosts, I think. 

1460
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,840
But they're great. 
They're such great people. 

1461
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,400
So we're excited to have her on 
and Nick all coming up in May. 

1462
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,480
So back-to-back to back-to-back.
So guys, stick around. 

1463
01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:22,240
And again, thank you. 
We will see you next week. 

1464
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,160
Bye. 
Well, that's it for another 

1465
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,240
episode of Splintered Spirits. 
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1466
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,400
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1467
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