1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,560 I am starting to develop a theory of my own. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,840 Oh yeah, what's the theory? I don't know if you're ready for 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,480 it, John. Are you ready? 4 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,360 For it. Oh, I'm ready. 5 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Hit me all. Right, we are live there. 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:21,920 We're live here, we're live there, we're live. 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Slowly, it takes a minute to get. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Like everything up and running. I know dude. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,160 It's, you know. Yeah, off. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,920 Oh, I know. Oh, I can actually meet the chat 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:39,280 today. I just go under, get the chat 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,520 going. What's going on, Gary? 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,560 Oh hey man, happy new year. We didn't get to do our first of 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,200 the year thing. I know we didn't. 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,280 So John, we're going to dive right in today because we have a 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,040 guest who is had a little time crunch and time mishap and we've 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,320 got some very cool ghostly evidence which we haven't had in 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,080 a long time. So we want to hit the ground. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,480 Running and then I want to talk about our year to come and our 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,520 year that's been real quick now that you're here. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,160 So I'm going to have Amber join us. 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,040 Just to give you a little back story about Amber. 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,160 She reached out to us. Big fan of the show. 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,920 She grew up in a small gold mining town in Northern Nevada 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,760 and she's always had strange experiences. 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,040 And now she gives ghost tours professionally in Austin, OK. 27 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:31,640 Cool. Pretty wild, right? 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's cool. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,440 So I'm going to bring her on Amber. 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Hi. Hello. 31 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,760 Welcome, welcome. Can you hear us OK? 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Yes, so. You are live across the 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,280 Splintered Spirits universe. So I had to come to work early. 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,680 So would you like guys like to meet Betty White? 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Who's Betty White? Well, I'll show you, turn my 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,160 camera around, see if I can do this. 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,520 I don't know if I can. Are you guys able to do it or 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,920 it's not letting me here? I'll just turn the the camera 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,680 around. Here we go. 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,199 Just turn your body around. There's. 41 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:14,640 Oh wow, this is Betty White. You give tours in that. 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,920 So. That's pretty cool. 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Yeah, that is cool. They've got cup holders, but 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,080 this is the back. Got my flashlight if it's hard 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,560 to see but this is the back. It's a little dark, but Oh yeah, 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,320 that's helpful. Oh, it's like, oh, it's like 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,920 double benched. Yeah, so we can fit up. 48 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:38,840 Oh. I see what you did there. 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,760 With six people, I mean, you're going to be squished. 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,760 With six, I mean, we even have seating here. 51 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:47,080 Well, that's meant for one. So it's. 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Meant for one laying down. Yeah, it's like. 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,400 And then we have that. Just sunk in. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,840 I'm a little slow, but that just sunk. 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:01,960 In Belinda the Good Witch, so get her fixed. 56 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Oh, that's that that rides around with you. 57 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,840 And then this is if the car dies, which is the battery. 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,880 It's a passenger Princess if I ever saw one. 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,600 So we have this on the cars at all times in case we have to 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,640 jump them, and I've had to jump this car already and it's no 61 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:17,400 problem. I'm Gen. 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,240 X, so I'm used to jump in cars and then the black ones over 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,520 here, it's got a tarp on. I didn't have time to take it 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,560 off, but I wanted to show you guys. 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,800 I will pull this part up because this one has the original 66 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,880 wheels. Amber, how long you been doing 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,360 this? Since August, but this has still 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,640 has the original wheels for the coffin. 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Oh. Wow. 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,760 And then this, the back of this one looks like this. 71 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:56,360 There's no cup holders and they also installed rear AC where the 72 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Betty White doesn't have it, but this one does. 73 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Yeah, right. So that's probably a little bit 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,880 better to roll around in in Texas. 75 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,480 So, yeah, so those are those are the two vehicles. 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Well, thanks for sharing with that. 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,880 That's wild. It's so Amber, how on all of 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,040 your tours and you go to a lot of haunted places. 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,079 Have you seen and heard? Oh. 80 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,520 Hold on, I see regular it's freezing up. 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:29,480 Weird shit, no. Did she freeze already? 82 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,280 I think we oh there she. Is there she is Amber. 83 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:35,240 I don't know if you heard the question. 84 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,520 I'm wondering how much weird. Stuff. 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,240 I have a cell phone number in my car, so that can help when I 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,040 turned it on, so that should be better. 87 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,520 I have a cell phone booster in my car. 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,240 We're going. To keep this things. 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:53,240 So Amber sent sent over a bunch of ghost evidence, which is 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,800 really wild. Amber, we're just going to dive 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,280 right in. I don't know if you're breaking 92 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:58,760 up if you can hear us too well, but we're going to get into some 93 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,760 of the stuff you sent because I thought it was pretty cool. 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,240 And I'm going to show everybody here and hello chat. 95 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,600 Hello everyone. I'll get to you guys in a 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,240 second. But this first one, John and you 97 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,600 know, Gettysburg and Amber's going to Gettysburg a couple 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,680 times. So it's Amber. 99 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Do you want to tell us, give us a little quick back story on the 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,400 on this Confederate soldier. You had a conversation. 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,600 With OK, so I've been to Gettysburg four times. 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,880 I actually lived in upstate New York, so I'm pretty familiar 103 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:37,040 with the Northeast, but Gettysburg has definitely been 104 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,160 I, I've noticed like I should start over. 105 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,160 Sorry, Idi HD Brain. The ghosts at Gettysburg are 106 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,840 really, really shy. I've noticed. 107 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,840 Like you have to keep going to the same place over and over and 108 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:52,080 over again to kind of earn their trust. 109 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Where on my tours, the second location, they're popping off 110 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,000 all the time. I've used dowsing rods, I use 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,320 spirit boxes, and I also use the Estes method and they're popping 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,440 off all the time. So when I go to get Gettysburg, 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,760 I get a little frustrated because I get nothing. 114 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:10,640 It's like, is this place even haunted? 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,320 So I went to the Devil's Den area and across the street 116 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,800 there's a, there's a forest. Well, I found like a cluster of 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,880 boulders. And it's actually a place that 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,880 the Confederate soldiers actually came back. 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Actually, I think it was Union. The Union actually came back 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,640 after the war and did graffiti on the, on the the stone. 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,560 So if you Google that, it'll actually show you what the 122 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,800 graffiti looks like and you have to look for it on the stones. 123 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,440 But they did that after the war ended. 124 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:45,360 So I went to that area and I went like a few times and I was 125 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,160 getting nothing. Like with my EMF, I took 126 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,040 recorders to try to get Evps, but like there was nothing 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,200 popping off. And I'm in school for 128 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,840 psychology, so I'm actually going to be working towards my 129 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:00,120 master's to become a mental health counselor. 130 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,880 And I thought, you know what, I'm going to try talking to the 131 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,560 spirit, like just person to person. 132 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:09,400 And I just told him, I said, you know, you probably get a lot of 133 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,960 people that are constantly putting Confederate soldiers 134 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,400 down and that's probably why they're being quiet. 135 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,600 And also they're not used to people trying to acknowledge 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,160 them. So I just told him, I said, you 137 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,600 know, I don't care what side you you fought on. 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,160 I'm incredibly proud of you because that would have been a 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,360 really hard thing to do. And obviously the government 140 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,480 isn't truthful about everything, so you probably didn't even 141 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,000 understand what you're fighting for. 142 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Probably worked on a farm. You weren't literate, you know, 143 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720 not saying that all of them weren't, but I mean, schools 144 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,160 weren't, you know, around at that time. 145 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,240 And a lot of, you know, you had a lot of farmers or people that 146 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,760 lived in small towns and didn't see, you know, didn't hear or 147 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,400 see this kind of action. So I said, you know, thank you 148 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,720 for serving our country and I couldn't do what you did. 149 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,160 And I just kind of did that. And I just said, I don't care 150 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,040 what side you you fought on. So when I did that instantly it 151 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,520 started popping off and I was like, I think I can. 152 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Believe it worked. It's wild. 153 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,760 John, watch this. I'm going to show it and then 154 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,080 wait till you see this because this is actually really cool. 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,680 I really enjoyed how this went back and forth. 156 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Here. Give me one moment. 157 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Let me pull it up, take it live. Are you in your 20s? 158 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:33,880 Push it again, just so I know, OK? 159 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:48,800 Are you 25, 24, 23, twenty, 2023? 160 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:55,320 OK. Are you a Confederate soldier? 161 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,560 Can you touch? Yes. 162 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:02,000 OK, awesome. So, but tell me what state 163 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 you're from. Is it Louisiana? 164 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Did I guess Louisiana? Right. 165 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Well, I want to make sure this isn't a fluke. 166 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Are you from Georgia? Florida. 167 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,480 Arkansas. Let's try Louisiana again. 168 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Oh my gosh, you're from Louisiana? 169 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Oh my gosh, I've been to New Orleans. 170 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,840 I love, love New Orleans. I love that. 171 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,560 I really do. Like I I just enjoyed, I enjoyed 172 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:40,440 that you went back and confirmed it and it and that light side. 173 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,400 So that's what that is, an EMF meter, like a classic EMF meter, 174 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:45,800 Yeah. Yeah, it is. 175 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,200 Did you get any EVP on it with the zoom you used or no, just 176 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,400 the light show. I am. 177 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,040 I'm going to be honest, I'm really bad about say to 178 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,520 evidence. I'm better about it now on the 179 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,720 tours because I know people are waiting for Evps for me and 180 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,600 I'll, I'll text it to them, but I really need to go back and 181 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,160 listen to see if there's anything there. 182 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,640 It's it's hard. When you're by yourself, it's 183 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,400 tough, I know. I'd rather pay somebody to do it 184 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,800 for me, honestly. Right. 185 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,360 Anyway, that was pretty cool. Like now what did, now what? 186 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,640 What did you, what did you feel when that happened for you? 187 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Like did you? Was that one of your first 188 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,600 experiences? The first one with an 189 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,800 intelligent response to the EMF meter. 190 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,040 But if you notice, like if you notice there was an edit in 191 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,560 there where I was, I actually heard a sound and it scared the 192 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,120 crap out of me. I thought it was an animal 193 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,840 growling or something. And when you listen back, you 194 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,040 can't hear it in the recording. But I heard something, I was 195 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,160 like, oh shit, I'm going to get out of here. 196 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,920 I don't want to get bit by whatever this is. 197 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:51,600 And so I kind of, I, I actually ran away. 198 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,600 I grabbed my stuff and ran away. And then I thought, shit, you 199 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,520 know, I was getting an intelligent response. 200 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,240 So I went back. But I, I was in an area where I 201 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,320 felt safe and started the question again. 202 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,600 And he was still there. And that's why there's an edit 203 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,160 there because I did hear something that was, it sounded 204 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,000 like it was alive. But when I went back, there was 205 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,160 nothing there. And that was the same trip when 206 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,360 I went to Sax Bridge and I got a, a demonic growl. 207 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,760 My friend and I heard a demonic growl. 208 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,200 And I've been to the Sax Bridge. Like I told you, this is my 209 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,480 fourth visit and I've been to the Sax Bridge and done 210 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,160 investigations for hours and never been growled at. 211 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,760 And that was within the 1st 5 minutes. 212 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,240 And unfortunately I wasn't recording. 213 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,920 My first thought was that was a rabid animal. 214 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,560 We're going to get bit and get rabies like something. 215 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:40,880 It was definitely get the hell away from here. 216 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,600 But we ran to the truck and I grabbed my flashlight and she's 217 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,040 like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm going to go find 218 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 it 'cause there's if you look at the bridge, it can't hide 219 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,360 anywhere there. Where is it? 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,280 Where did that sound come from? I mean, you've been to the 221 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,880 bridge, John. It was right at the the mouth of 222 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,120 the bridge at the very beginning. 223 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,200 And so there is a video of me. Which part of the bridge coming 224 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,200 in from the from the street like the main, the main access to the 225 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,600 street or the OR the other side where the lot is, where the, 226 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,000 where the plaque is and all that? 227 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 So it's not where there's that little turn around and then 228 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,600 there's houses. It's on the other side where 229 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,920 it's just a field, OK, There's the trail that you can follow to 230 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,720 the little dam. It was that side and it was 231 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,440 within first, the first 5 minutes. 232 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,000 She's like, I don't know, I feel like we're being watched. 233 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 And then when we went back, I said, hold on a second. 234 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,760 I was looking down and I was doing something. 235 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,200 And that's when we heard the growl and I looked up foxes, 236 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,560 raccoons, like anything. I wanted to try to match that 237 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,160 growl. And the only thing I could come 238 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,560 close to was like a mastiff or other videos of people get, you 239 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,480 know, capturing a a demonic growl. 240 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,920 But back to that soldier. That was actually before dusk. 241 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,120 And, you know, legally you can't stay there. 242 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,640 And my girlfriend, the same girlfriend, was in the parking 243 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,760 lot at the Devil's Den waiting for me because every time she 244 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,360 would get, she would set foot on the battlefield, she would get 245 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,120 nauseous. When she was with me, she'd get 246 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,200 goosebumps and nauseous. And she has a timeshare up 247 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,400 there. She's from Baltimore originally, 248 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,760 and so she's been going there for the past 10 years. 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,440 But for some reason, when she was with me, every single time 250 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,440 she set foot on that battlefield, she got nauseous. 251 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,120 And then when I left and she picked up her brother from 252 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,320 Germany because I actually accompanied her because she was 253 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,440 driving by herself from Texas to Gettysburg and I was like, hey, 254 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,360 don't drive alone, take me. So I only stayed there like 4 255 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,760 days. But after I left and her 256 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,640 brother, they went on the battlefield. 257 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,600 She didn't feel nauseous or have goosebumps, which was really 258 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,320 strange. But after that conversation I 259 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,960 had with that soldier, I said, hey, it's getting dark. 260 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:51,080 I don't want to get in trouble by what do you call those 261 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,120 Rangers? You can get ticketed 262 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,840 trespassing. And so I said, will you 263 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,000 accompany me to my carriage? I said I'm a girl by myself. 264 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Make sure I get to my carriage safe. 265 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,680 And so I did do an upload. There it was. 266 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,480 It was the Civil War soldier where he said my name. 267 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,120 And so I think it was the same one I was talking to because I 268 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,400 stopped in the middle of the trail and I was shaking really 269 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,000 bad because it was an adrenaline rush. 270 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,400 I finally had an intelligent conversation. 271 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,000 So I was just on cloud 9. So I called my friend that was 272 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,000 that was waiting for me forgot to hit stop on the recorder, 273 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,400 which I'm glad I did because after I breathe that I went like 274 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,240 this because I was like trying to calm myself down. 275 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,560 He says Amber and it almost seemed like he was concerned 276 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,320 like Amber, like, are you OK? And so I don't know if that one 277 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,360 uploaded. No, I didn't see that one. 278 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Amber. What? 279 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,680 What do you think spirits are? I think they're energy 'cause I 280 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,080 think energy can't be created nor destroyed. 281 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,360 I think that they're at, they're on a different plane than we 282 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,440 are. So you think it's like you, you, 283 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,440 but let's say you step back real quick. 284 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,960 You believe based on some of the evidence that you've heard and 285 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,080 what you've seen and and heard that you think this energy is 286 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:16,400 like sentient and it's someone passes and they're their whole 287 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,720 consciousness is a part of it. Not I because you have residual 288 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,440 where somehow it's imprinted into the earth somehow where it 289 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,880 keeps playing it over and over again. 290 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,080 So there's that. But then they're sentient. 291 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,240 But I think there's some that are. 292 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,760 And this is where I'm trying to I'm, I'm a document. 293 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,640 I like to document like John does. 294 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,440 I'm not, I don't hunt them down. I, I'm trying to understand 295 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,840 them. Get that turned back on. 296 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,600 And so for some reason, there's certain spirits that are stuck 297 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,640 at locations and they can't leave. 298 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 And then there's others it seems like you can visit and it's 299 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,040 like, OK, So what? Why is it that there's some that 300 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,360 are stuck at a location they can't leave where others can 301 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,040 come and go like your grandma or your father, you know, coming to 302 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,120 visit you. What is the difference? 303 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,200 Why? Why are there those two 304 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,480 different distinctions? Why do you tell me? 305 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,920 What do you think it is? I don't. 306 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Know no, yeah, yeah, we don't know either. 307 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,480 That's the whole point of this thing is we're trying to figure 308 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,240 out what the hell it is. You know like we'd love to find 309 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,080 that out here. I want to play this other one 310 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,040 that you sent because I thought this was cool too. 311 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,040 This is a great EVP and it's really I like how you do the 312 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,200 Evps like sort of a very classic sense of your of style to it. 313 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,840 But here John, check this thing out. 314 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,240 Let me play this for you guys and hopefully you can hear it. 315 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Turn your volume up. Are we bothering you? 316 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,240 Now that's a good classic. Yeah. 317 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,079 Yeah. Like the guttural where it's, 318 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,480 you know, get out now. And I always wonder, you know, 319 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,319 when you start. Talking about were you? 320 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,240 Were you alone when you? No. 321 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,119 And this. Is actually. 322 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,359 This is kind of a long story. Well, not a long story about a 323 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,599 10 minute story that, but the reason. 324 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:30,360 All right, so but hold on you let's. 325 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:31,320 Give it. Let's give it the. 326 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,880 Let's give it the Cliff Notes version. 327 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,320 So, so, but you were with people. 328 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,320 I was with my cousin. You're with so one other person. 329 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,280 I, I mean, listen that, that's that, that's more impressive 330 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,840 than the, than the, the first footage. 331 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,000 And I'll tell you why you can, you can push Swiss cheese in the 332 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,720 foot in the, in the first footage, you know, just this, 333 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,800 that and the other EMF, what it, what it, what it could be. 334 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:55,000 But that right there. I mean, that's not even 335 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,600 something you really need to enhance. 336 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,440 You can see it just on the, on the recording like I do exactly. 337 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,800 Even before I heard it, I knew exactly where that EVP was going 338 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,600 to pop off. That's very, that's very 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,760 impressive. Very impressive. 340 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Even pink. This happened near, it was a 341 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,280 cemetery near the most haunted Rd. in all of Colorado called 342 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,720 River Riverside Dr. It's a 12 mile stretch. 343 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,680 I think it has something to do with the land like Indians and 344 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,560 and other stuff. But my cousin, he's he's a 345 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,600 skeptic. And so he took me on that road 346 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,280 because he knew I'd be interested in that. 347 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,400 And we were driving down the road and his Tacoma was less 348 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,200 than a year old. And he was, when we're driving 349 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,120 down, we got to this part where the road curved around the hill. 350 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,320 Instead of them carving into it, they built the road around it. 351 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,840 And he goes, yeah, one time I was driving down this road and 352 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:50,560 this Charger came around the corner and was in my lane and I 353 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,080 had to ditch and almost totaled my vehicle into the side, you 354 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,560 know, the side of this hill. When he did that, he was 355 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,480 pointing his hand like this out the windshield pointing while 356 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,280 his radio was turned off. He always has it set to Sirius 357 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,160 radio. Well, his radio turns on, it 358 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:11,560 flips to FM country and he's like, did I just how did that 359 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,360 radio turn on? And I said, my hands are in my 360 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,040 lap and the radio was turned off. 361 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,880 And he goes, I know I listen to Sirius radio. 362 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,760 I he goes, I never listen to FM and I hate country. 363 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,040 He goes, how did that just happen? 364 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,760 And his truck was less than a year old. 365 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,000 And I'm like, you know, because he's a skeptic. 366 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Like you could see his brain glitching. 367 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,960 Well, then he's like, well, there's a cemetery nearby this 368 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,560 road. And it was about one or two O 369 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,080 clock in the afternoon. So I only recorded for like 2025 370 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,520 minutes. I didn't feel anything. 371 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,360 It was actually kind of boring. But when I got home, because it 372 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,560 was such a short clip, I listened to it and there was two 373 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,120 of them. There was one get out now. 374 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,680 And there was another one that said goodbye in the same tone. 375 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,920 Well, something followed me home. 376 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,560 So when I got home, like almost immediately, like within two 377 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,200 days of me getting home, I woke up and I was laying on my back 378 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,520 and I have night terrors. And I thought for a second, am I 379 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,400 having a night tear? Like what the Hell's going on? 380 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,880 And I kind of opened my eyes a little bit and I could see this 381 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,840 girl that I thought it was my nine year old daughter at the 382 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,080 time because she had long black hair and like a nightgown with 383 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,960 long white sleeves. And my my mother actually bought 384 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,880 her a nightgown like that. And I, I was like, Sage, what 385 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,920 are you doing? Well, when I opened my eyes and 386 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,640 fully woke up, she disappeared, but I could still feel the 387 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,760 pressure on my legs, like she's pushing down on my legs. 388 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,880 And so I moved. I wiggled my my legs and it 389 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,040 stopped. So the next day I told my 390 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,520 husband, I said, I think I brought something home. 391 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,520 And he goes, you did. And I said, what do you mean? 392 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,720 He goes? Well, I was going to tell you 393 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,720 when I was coming out of the bedroom, a shadow shot down the 394 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,840 hallway into the bathroom, the guest bathroom. 395 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,800 And it was about 5 foot high, but it was a black shadow of 396 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600 something running down. So I cleansed my space. 397 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,240 It was gone. Well, I told my cousin about it 398 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,200 and he's like, Oh my God, that's what you want? 399 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,880 And I said, no, that's not what I want. 400 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:55,680 You know, I said. I already got rid of it. 401 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Who'd want that? So he happened that same week. 402 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,800 So I, I think I cleansed my house like on a Thursday. 403 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,240 And so he went on a business trip and he went to North 404 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,920 Carolina. Well, his really, his really 405 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,280 good college friend was a town over. 406 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,600 And so he stayed the weekend just to stay at his college 407 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,800 buddy's house. So he stayed in their guest 408 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,440 bedroom and he has sleep paralysis. 409 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,160 I've never had that before, but he does. 410 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,640 And he goes, Oh my God, I had the weirdest sleep paralysis 411 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,400 I've ever had. I woke up and there was a girl 412 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,280 floating above my bed and she looked really pissed off. 413 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,040 And I said, did she have long brown hair and a long white 414 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,400 nightgown with long sleeves? And he goes, how the hell did 415 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,360 you know that? And I said, that's what I saw 416 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,600 messing with my legs, pushing down, like putting pressure on 417 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,120 my legs. And he didn't really have much 418 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,600 to say. He's like, well, maybe you 419 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,280 describe that to me and I forgot. 420 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,480 And that's why I that was just my, I was hallucinating or 421 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,920 dreaming. And he's looking for a reason. 422 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,080 He's looking for a reason to buy. 423 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,800 I was like, I didn't describe her to you. 424 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,200 I just said I saw a girl, Amber so. 425 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,120 Amber, what was the first time you had like an experience that 426 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:04,920 you felt was that you couldn't explain? 427 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,360 So I grew up with. Has this happened all your life? 428 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,840 Pretty much, yeah. So like I said, I I grew up in a 429 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,280 small gold mining town called Winnemucca, Nevada. 430 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,280 It's on I-80. It's between Elko and Reno, and 431 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,960 it's out like kind of in the middle of nowhere. 432 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,560 And so I'd be out. I mean, I was the generation of 433 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,520 come home when the, you know, the light, the lights turn on 434 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,760 or, you know, drinking out of the hose. 435 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,640 Like I was always outside. But I would always hear a woman 436 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,600 calling my name in the distance. And it was never my parents and 437 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,440 there was nobody. But it happened so often where I 438 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,960 kept hearing my name getting called that I just kind of 439 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,920 ignored it. It just became the norm. 440 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,160 Other certain places like the daycare center. 441 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,120 And how old are you? How? 442 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,880 How old are? You, it was elementary school. 443 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,360 It was between the ages of like 4 and 10. 444 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,080 It happened for many years and then it probably, well, I'd have 445 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,240 to say 8, so probably stopped around that age. 446 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,840 It was definitely elementary school, but I mean, it happened 447 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,560 for years. And then also when I was in 448 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,520 daycare at the age of like four or five, I would always feel 449 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,680 like there was something in the corner watching me, something 450 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,120 invisible, just staring at me. And I never said anything. 451 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,560 But and then certain places I'd go to, I'd feel like there was 452 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,000 something there staring at me. And I, I just would get that 453 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,080 feeling, but it was only, you know, like the daycare because 454 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,880 it was out of a house and just a few other places like like a 455 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080 convenience store or, you know, just random places, but never at 456 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,680 my home. You just get that sense of 457 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,960 there's something there. I can't see it, but there is 458 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,600 something there watching me. So, you know, Amber, I love, I, 459 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,840 I love, thank you for coming on. And I, I love talking to people 460 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,920 from especially from all over the country and who've been to 461 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,040 so many different places. And it's, I'm, I'm curious for 462 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,320 you having lived with something like this, having seen these 463 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,440 things, having captured, documented really solid stuff. 464 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,600 What? What are you looking for? 465 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,200 What are you hoping to continue to document? 466 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,880 Do you want confirmation of what you think spirits are? 467 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,840 What you know? What is the drive for you? 468 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,240 To understand them, like why are they here? 469 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Do they need our help? You know, are they stuck here? 470 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,040 Is there something that we need to do, you know, or you know, 471 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,880 just just understand it, Like why? 472 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,800 Why does this stuff happen? Was there ever a moment where 473 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,960 you're like, I don't want to experience this anymore? 474 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,360 So as opposed to like diving into it, trying to shove it 475 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,000 away? I mean, when they're in my 476 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,400 house, yes, like that freaks me out if if I live in a haunted 477 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,920 house and my house in upstate New York wasn't haunted per SE. 478 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,080 We lived really close to a cemetery from the seventeen 479 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,080 1800s and I had to keep cleansing it. 480 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,840 And there definitely was something in the basement that I 481 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,640 just kind of left down there. I was like, that's your space, 482 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,200 just don't come upstairs type of thing. 483 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,080 You just, you just gave up the basement you just gave. 484 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,920 It was, well, like. A storage, it was a finished 485 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,640 basement, but we used it for storage. 486 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,960 The only time that I got afraid I would say is on one of my 487 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,600 tours and that was more in Austin our safety than and. 488 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,920 That's in in Austin. In Austin, yeah. 489 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,120 So I was driving Betty White and there's a, there's a, a spirit 490 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,080 attached to Betty Wyatt. His name's Joe. 491 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,480 He used to be the hearse driver. He might have, I think he might 492 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,440 have been with the tours and then passed away. 493 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,680 But when I picked up my party, I had a, a private hearse party. 494 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,600 So on those we go to, we go to them like they give us a 495 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,400 location within reason. And I was picking them up and it 496 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,320 was this, it was a, a TikTok group. 497 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,200 Like it was, we have TikTok downtown. 498 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,760 And so these were TikTok employees. 499 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,000 And so I came, I went to their building to pick him up and 500 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,480 there was a guy that had, I found out later, had really bad 501 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:59,000 anxiety and he had a vape pen. And so he went when he was 502 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,200 getting in the car, when he was exhaling a lot of the, the weed 503 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,240 smoke got into our got into Betty White and I popped in and 504 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,520 was like, Oh my God, like we're being hot boxed here. 505 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,760 But I don't care. I mean, I don't judge people by 506 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,880 I really don't care. But all of a sudden my GPS start 507 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,680 acting up because I don't know downtown Austin very well and 508 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,280 there's a lot of one way streets and it you're on the road. 509 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,200 But it kept drifting like this. And I go, what the is my GPS 510 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,720 doing? Like it's never done that before 511 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,800 where I had to keep scrolling back and it kept I was like, 512 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,520 what the Hell's going on? So I finally got that are. 513 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Are we sure you weren't high? No, I mean, I feel like maybe if 514 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,520 he's. Well if he's vaping it wasn't it 515 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,760 wasn't hot boxing. It must have been a dry herb pen 516 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,160 or. Something. 517 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,520 Yeah, I could. I we can. 518 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Tip. It I was being I was being 519 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,800 sarcastic, but I mean, we could smell that the guy was 520 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,880 definitely had just taken a hit of weed, but we could. 521 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Oh yeah. Probably right up, probably in a 522 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,400 bowl or something. We just got to the first 523 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 location, which is the Driscoll Hotel. 524 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,200 And so I got out and it's Electric Locks Betty White's 525 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,040 from 1993. So I got out and you know, the 526 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,440 doors were unlocked. So I open my door, I shut it, 527 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,040 and I always leave the keys on the dash for the valet. 528 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,920 I don't do that anymore because of this reason. 529 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,360 So when I went to open up the guest door, because there is no 530 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,840 handle in the back, so guests can't get out, I have to 531 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,760 actually let them out. It was locked and I go, shit, 532 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,840 it's locked. So I went to my driver's side 533 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,000 door, it was locked and I go, how in the hell did it just lock 534 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,360 itself? I just got out of it. 535 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:29,760 They were unlocked, so somebody, one of the guests had to kind of 536 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,760 reach forward and hit the electric locks in the front 537 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,320 seat. I was really embarrassed. 538 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,400 We went in, did our tour, came back out the ballet, stuck the 539 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,200 key in the driver side and unlocked it and then hit the 540 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,120 unlock to unlock all the doors. Handed me the key, open the door 541 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,920 for the guests, shut the door, doors were locked again. 542 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,440 And I was like, OK, Joe's pissed off. 543 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Something's going on with Joe. And so I called my manager, 544 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Sarah, and I was like, what the Hell's going on with the car? 545 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,040 Like, I was afraid, like it was going to affect our safety, you 546 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,000 know, like with my GPS wigging out. 547 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,760 And I was like, is the car going to, like, stop working? 548 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,040 What is going on? I actually got really nervous 549 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,760 and I talked to her and I said I think it was the vaping and I 550 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720 think he didn't like the weed. And she goes, yeah, actually the 551 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,080 owner knew him and said he was a really straight laced guy. 552 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,320 He was anti drugs, anti smoking, anti drinking, but he's OK with 553 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,040 us drinking in the car because he knows it's part of the 554 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,280 business. And she said one time when she 555 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,600 was in the car cleaning it out, she took a hit from her vape 556 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,480 pen. The door closed and locked on 557 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,920 her. And she goes, oh, sorry, Joe 558 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,640 won't do that again. So she says that's happened to 559 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,280 her before. Wait, are you allowed? 560 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Are you allowed because it's a tour bus? 561 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Like are people in the back allowed to like have a cocktail 562 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,880 is? It. 563 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080 Like a limousine in that sense. Bring your own beer. 564 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,560 So we provide them with free drinks like water and sodas, and 565 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,960 they're allowed to bring their own beer. 566 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320 Tell everybody the name of the your, your company, your. 567 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,480 Tour companies, haunted ATX, It's hearse on wheels. 568 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,960 So we have a black hearse. I call that one the Black Beast. 569 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,960 It looks like a Wednesday Adams car. 570 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,120 And then there's the Betty White. 571 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280 And then we have a van. We call it the Mystery Machine, 572 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,560 but it has a really pretty wrap on it, like a like the girl from 573 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,720 Ring, you know, the crawling girl. 574 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,720 We have that on the side of it with bats because also Austin's 575 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,160 known for bats. I know San Antonio has all. 576 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,800 I thought it was just. San Antonio, we have like 577 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,600 thousands of bats on the bridge on Lady, Lady Bird Bridge that 578 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,640 people watch at dusk go out, Yeah. 579 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,040 And you got to and you're working tonight. 580 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360 That's that's what's happening. You want to just let everybody 581 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,320 know what what's the plan for? Tonight, Oh my gosh, I have a 582 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,080 private party of seven people. I think it's a work. 583 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,600 It might be a work thing. A lot of people do. 584 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:54,600 They do a lot of, what do you call that workshops or like, no, 585 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,920 I can't like the bond with each other. 586 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440 Those are the best because they also tip the best because it's 587 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,400 the company paying for it. So I love those. 588 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,120 So I'm hoping it's better do. You record. 589 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Do you record every time you're out Amber with them so that you 590 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,760 like just in case you catch something? 591 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,240 Cool. The second location I use two 592 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,960 recorders. I use a Zoom for each in, which 593 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,040 is a $250 recorder, but that one doesn't. 594 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,400 Oh, John, I want to talk to you about frequencies if we have a 595 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,680 second because I've noticed something with frequencies. 596 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,840 And then the other one I use is a Yeti that I hook up to 597 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,960 Audacity. I hook it up to a tablet and the 598 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,640 one where it said get out now that was recorded with a Yeti 599 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,040 microphone hooked up to my computer recording off of 600 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Audacity. And so I've tested out the two 601 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,840 recorders and I've noticed like even on this, this Zoom H4 N 602 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640 it's been used in Hollywood. Jessica Chobot used it on 603 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760 Expedition X. It doesn't pick up frequencies 604 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,680 like this like the Yeti does. The Yeti actually picks up more 605 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Evps than the Zoom does and they're actually sitting pretty 606 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440 close. And I like to record. 607 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600 I have two recorders. 1 is a backup in case something goes 608 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,280 awry or one picks up something and the other one doesn't. 609 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,560 And also it picks up the spirit boxes. 610 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,800 So like there's things that I've missed before where I went back 611 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,800 and I'm like, holy shit. Like I, I, I wish I would have 612 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,640 caught that at the time. But what I've noticed is when I 613 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,960 was in the cellar at the second location, there was two people 614 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520 as a husband and wife, and all of a sudden we heard this girl 615 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,760 giggling right next to us. And I'm like, Oh my God, did you 616 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,080 just hear that? And the girl says, yeah, that 617 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,520 was really loud. It was right next to us, the 618 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,440 recorders. We were like at the table with 619 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,280 the recorders. It was like right there. 620 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240 And I go, well, both recorders are going. 621 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,960 I for sure caught that the husband didn't hear it. 622 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,280 He did not hear the the girl giggling. 623 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,800 When I listen to both recorders, it did not pick up on the girl 624 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,840 giggling or laughing. It was not there. 625 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,160 And I was like, what the hell? The other time I've, I've 626 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,120 noticed frequency is at Waverly Hills Sanatorium. 627 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,160 We were in the surgery room and I was with two guys and four 628 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,840 other girls. And I, and I'm now learning that 629 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,160 guy, our eardrums with men and women, it's different. 630 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,440 Our eardrums are different from yours and we can pick up our 631 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,680 frequencies. You guys can't. 632 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,120 So when we're in the surgery room, we heard a guy whistling 633 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,000 and this was an overnight investigation. 634 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,880 We had eight hours in the building, so we were there for 635 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,160 probably about 30 minutes. And then I heard this guy 636 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,760 whistling. And it's the type of whistling 637 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840 when like when you're cleaning the house or doing something, 638 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040 you're whistling to yourself. It sounded just like that. 639 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,360 And I go, Matt, Paul, are you whistling? 640 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,240 And they're like, no, what? Whistle? 641 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,280 We didn't hear a whistle. And the four girls were like, 642 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,600 yeah, we thought it was Matt and Paul. 643 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,440 We heard the whistling. And I said, yeah, I did too. 644 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,480 And they're like, I don't know what you're talking about. 5 645 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,960 minutes later, it happened again. 646 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,080 And it was almost like someone hit, hit play on a recorder. 647 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,440 It was the same song. It was just plain. 648 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,320 It was again, and of course this was in 2007 when I didn't have 649 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,400 recorders. I was very, I was, I was very 650 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,280 poor. So I didn't have recorders and I 651 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,920 go, oh, did you guys hear at that time? 652 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,440 Both guys again couldn't hear it. 653 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840 The four girls and myself heard it. 654 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,560 Then our tour guide came up because they leave us on a floor 655 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 for an hour and then they come and get us and and rotate us to 656 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,400 another floor. And he goes, Oh yeah, I forgot 657 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,400 to tell you guys. Some people claim hearing 658 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360 whistling. And I'm like, I told you guys, 659 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,520 but the guys couldn't hear it. And so the second time this ever 660 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,400 happened was on my tour with that girl giggling. 661 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,680 But my recorders. I believe that to be, I believe 662 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,000 that's true. I mean, there's something I, you 663 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,040 know, I've read this somewhere too. 664 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,080 It's something about like, so certainly with babies crying, 665 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,720 right, women sort of have a quicker tendency to hear that. 666 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,840 I believe that like, you know, there's certain sounds and 667 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,200 frequencies that are, it's very, it's very, you know, survival 668 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680 instinct stuff. Well, that's all. 669 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,400 I mean, listen, Amber, it's crazy and it's, and it's, it's 670 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,760 very cool that you're out there and it what a great excuse to 671 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,640 get to investigate by being part of your job. 672 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,720 And you're like, you know, you get to take people with you on 673 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,360 this, on this haunt. And again, it's haunted ATX 674 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,040 hearse on wheels. It's like hearse on wheels.com. 675 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,720 No, it's just haunted ATX. Like if you just type in Hearst 676 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,920 Ghost Tour, because there's only three hearses that do tours in 677 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,440 the United States. We've got two of them. 678 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,280 The other one, Savannah, GA, it'll pull us up because there's 679 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520 another one that's similar to our company. 680 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,000 And so people get the two confused. 681 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520 But we're the Tour on wheels. We're the Tour on wheels. 682 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,560 That's that's what it is, Tour on Wheels. 683 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,800 Tour on Wheels, I love it. And look, if anybody's in 684 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,639 Austin, they should absolutely check it out and ask. 685 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,280 For me, because nobody else does the ghost investigations, I'm 686 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,280 the only tour guide that does the other one and. 687 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,400 It sounds like you actually get stuff, which as John knows in my 688 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,280 opinion, I think it is very much related to the person doing it, 689 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239 more so than the tools. Used, well, I have a lot more. 690 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,360 So maybe you've got some. Evps that I would love to share 691 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,920 with you at a later time. I've got a ton and I've also got 692 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,120 more video of the second location. 693 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,040 I mean, I've only been there since August, but I probably 694 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,840 have 10 Evps and I've got a video that I took where I had a 695 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,159 Rampod that looked like a carousel. 696 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:59,000 I bought it from Europe. And so you can see a misty like 697 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,160 hand coming over and then it comes over and then the Rampod 698 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,080 goes off and then a minute later it comes across again, but not 699 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,280 as clear as the first time and it goes off again. 700 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:12,400 And I have like costume jewelry right next to it. 701 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,960 My EMF saw also going off like crazy but you can see this mist 702 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,160 like a hand coming over and that's that stuff that I call 703 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,400 with my Samsung phone. Amazing. 704 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Very cool. Well, Amber, listen, thank you 705 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,200 so much for sharing all that with us. 706 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,960 I really appreciate you and your time. 707 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440 It's very cool stuff. I love it. 708 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,760 Tour on Wheels, Haunted ATX. Next time I'm in Austin, I will. 709 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,560 Absolutely. I mean, the hearse is just cool. 710 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,880 It is. Just is and those are great. 711 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,000 Those are really good that get out. 712 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,280 I loved it. Thank you so much. 713 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,600 I really appreciate you. Thank you all. 714 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,360 Right. Thanks for. 715 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,640 Having me be safe tonight. All right. 716 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,600 Thank you. Of course. 717 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Yeah, you got it. Take care and just leave it. 718 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,280 Leave it on until it says it's fully uploaded, OK? 719 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,680 For us, perfect timing. All right, you. 720 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080 Got. It right the light on queue. 721 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,320 Bye. That's pretty wild. 722 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,960 I mean that one EVP was really cool. 723 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,120 Yeah, that one EVP was really cool, you know, because I like 724 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,040 to listen. Like when I have like the trip 725 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,200 wire going right and the trip wire goes off, I remind 726 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,160 everybody in my live stream, listen, I have a trip wire, it's 727 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,920 a taxi MF. That doesn't mean that's a 728 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,320 spirit. It could mean many things. 729 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,800 The byproduct of a spirit. It could be a byproduct of a 730 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,000 portal. It could be a strange 731 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,080 phenomenon, you know, it could be, it could be anything. 732 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,920 It doesn't necessarily mean spirit, right? 733 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:49,120 But the EVP, you know, EVP S are pretty cool for that, for that, 734 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,240 you know, again, we weren't there, you know, we don't know 735 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,000 exactly all the variables. I always listen. 736 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,560 I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. 737 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,080 I mean, you know, she certainly, you know, they're, they're not 738 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,480 coming out here trying to pull the wool over exactly, you know 739 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,200 what I'm saying? So she believes she caught 740 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,720 something and. And it sounded, it sounded like 741 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,520 the way when she was describing it, it was a very simple thing, 742 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,360 like she was there with her cousin. 743 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,080 Her cousin was a skeptic. This is what she caught. 744 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,320 So listen. If somebody comes on this 745 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,000 podcast with an elaborate scam to try to trick us that they've 746 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,360 got ghost things, it's like, wow, dude, get a life. 747 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,080 You know, like, I'm surprised even even more than a life. 748 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,680 So I don't believe, I choose to believe that people believe in 749 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,840 what they've captured, especially when people are 750 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,920 really into this space and it's like, you know, yeah. 751 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,600 Are there 1001 different reasons why that could have happened? 752 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,560 Of course, dude. We don't know what's going on. 753 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,680 But they believe in the scenario. 754 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,360 We weren't there. They were. 755 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,000 Well, what do you? Feel they caught something with. 756 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640 EVP it's interesting because she's at a cemetery, right? 757 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,800 And my whole thing with EV PS is doing EV. 758 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:04,640 PS In any area that has tons of copper, for example, is just, 759 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,800 and EVP can be, can be explained, right. 760 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,720 Copper is very good at picking up things. 761 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,440 So if you got copper and brass and, and, and, you know, running 762 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,280 through old structures and houses and whatnot and you get 763 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:24,600 an EVP, it's like, maybe. But when you're in a cemetery 764 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,360 and there's no, you know, wires running through a house, you 765 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,880 know, you're in a cemetery, you know, it's like, oh, OK, wow, 766 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,800 what just caused that to happen? What's that weird growl? 767 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,400 Sure. So let's see. 768 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,680 We didn't get a chance to talk last week. 769 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,480 Yeah. Yeah. 770 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,640 And we've had a couple. We've had our first. 771 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,320 I know it's been a couple weeks here. 772 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,920 We had a for our first. We had our first episode. 773 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,640 I hope everyone got a chance of of the new year with Matthew 774 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,360 Botsford who died and went to hell. 775 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,440 Had bullets for dessert. Bullets for dessert. 776 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,120 He kicked it. You know, I hope everybody had a 777 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,520 chance to watch that episode. It's pretty and listen to it. 778 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,880 It's amazing. I've known Matt for a long time 779 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,920 and it it's really a classic near story of hell. 780 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,840 You know how you picture it, But you know, we've got he truly 781 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,120 flatlined. I've got the X-rays with the 782 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,080 bullet in his head that we show everybody and all that fun stuff 783 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:23,400 and, and it, and what he experienced is so vivid for him 784 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,880 afterwards, you know, and, and his what is spiritual and what 785 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,960 is, you know, what's in the mind versus what it was. 786 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,920 And it's really a a crazy story, you know? 787 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,480 And yeah, that was our first one to launch. 788 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,800 And, you know, ease in general are, are, are very interesting. 789 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,640 It's such a, it's such a, it's such a topic because you'll get 790 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,000 people that'll, that'll be like, hey, listen, it's just a 791 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,680 misfiring of the brain, right? It's the brain at its end. 792 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640 It's what you know, it's what you're, you know, your brain 793 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,320 compensating for what's happening. 794 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,480 And then other people are like, there's no way my brain was 795 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,960 misfiring when I saw what I saw because it was just so detailed 796 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,360 and so vivid. And the smells, the tastes, the 797 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,160 action, the you know. Well, it's a right. 798 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,040 It's like, but I already plugged it to the matrix, John, you 799 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,480 know, and that's all part of the smells. 800 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,720 But let me ask you this dude, because I didn't get I wanted to 801 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,440 ask you this last week, but you weren't, you know, we couldn't 802 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,200 get it. But look, we've been doing this 803 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,480 for almost a year, right? So the first year and it's all 804 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,960 new to me, but a lot of this is new to you. 805 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,840 Do you walk away with anything from the first year sort of new 806 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,920 or and what what did you walk away from from doing this 807 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,600 podcast and meeting some of these people? 808 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,320 What what I what I walked away from because everything that 809 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,320 we've spoken about on this podcast I've heard before, 810 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,040 right? There's nothing new under the 811 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,680 sun, especially with the paranormal. 812 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,280 This is all stuff that I've heard people's theories I've 813 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,120 heard, but what I'm walking away with is the fact that when it 814 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,040 comes to my theories on what spirits are, everything that 815 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,800 they're talking about main mostly everything can be applied 816 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,360 to that to. It's a circling right, It's 817 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,840 everything sort. Of it's it's yeah and. 818 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,160 And it's like, wait a minute, like someone says this, someone 819 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,920 says that someone says this, sure, there are some guests that 820 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520 they're saying things. I'm just like, I know exactly 821 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,120 what they're talking about because I've experienced this 822 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,720 and I've documented this. I might be looking at it through 823 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:33,400 another lens, but it's the, it's the same exact thing that 824 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,040 they're Speaking of. But that's what it is. 825 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,560 It's like, wait a minute. It's like hearing all these 826 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,360 different perspectives and all these different ideas and all 827 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,000 this, all this information coming in the, but that's the 828 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,720 first thing, right? Just hearing it all in like, 829 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:52,200 wow, I can actually apply this to, you know, if someone says, 830 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,680 hey, well, I think spirits are this. 831 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,160 It's like, well, yeah, and and it could be explained this way, 832 00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,320 right. So that's that. 833 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,880 And then the second thing, the second thing that I that I got 834 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:08,360 from from this whole year is how deeply rooted the human 835 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,240 experiences. It's all about the human 836 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,600 experience. And, and, and listen, my Naive 837 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,600 ass always thought it was people just trying to feel better about 838 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,040 things, feel better about death, you know, association, making 839 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,720 things up just to feel better, right. 840 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,200 When it comes to certain things, they'll hear something, they'll 841 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,720 be like, oh, this is what it must be. 842 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,480 When it's like, where did you get that from? 843 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,840 What do you mean it must be this? 844 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,800 I heard the same thing you did. It's a human experience, but 845 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,200 it's more than just grief and it's more than just the hoping 846 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,880 or the fear of death, right? It it, it's like just deeply 847 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,040 rooted and the human experience is wild. 848 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,840 It's almost and, and maybe this is the the psychologist in me 849 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,120 coming out. It's almost as interesting as 850 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,640 the paranormal itself. Well dude, I am starting to 851 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,200 develop a theory of my own. Oh yeah, what's the theory? 852 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,480 I don't know if you're ready for it, John. 853 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,680 Are you ready for? It Oh, I'm ready. 854 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,840 Hit me. I think you're all fuck. 855 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,440 You're nuts. No, no, no, I really don't. 856 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,760 I, I, I, I don't, I, I, I don't think it's nuts. 857 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,120 I, I, no, no, some people think I'm nuts. 858 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,360 We're going to get to a few guests who think I'm full of 859 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,920 shit, but or, or don't believe. But I, I tell you this, I don't 860 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,040 know if what. And, and it's in line with your 861 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,840 in with your theory in terms of, in terms of energy and, and 862 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,120 that. Consciousness and memory. 863 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:39,960 And but I am starting to wonder if what you're hearing on your 864 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:45,200 apps or in spirit boxes and what people are experiencing is a 865 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,680 sort of a how do I articulate this? 866 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,080 Because I haven't fully thought about it myself, you know, 867 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,680 nailed it down. But I believe it might be 868 00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:01,360 related to consciousness and the mind more so than. 869 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,200 The dead, the dead, so so look. So basically, what does? 870 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,480 That make sense? Yes, you're saying that it's our 871 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,240 that our minds are projecting? Yes, this. 872 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:18,800 And I think some people are much like I've always said about more 873 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,840 intuitive than others, as I believe mediums that are, 874 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,120 they're better mediums than others because they're more 875 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,440 intuitive than others. They're, they might have more 876 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,760 whatever it is that's doing that thing and whether they are able 877 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:38,560 to truly connect maybe with your consciousness on a certain level 878 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:46,840 that whatever that is. It just seems it like the like 879 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,240 why do poltergeists and poltergeist agents happen most 880 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,880 when teenagers where their hormones and that energy is so 881 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,480 high and, and they're manifesting that thing and. 882 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,040 Or. What it you know, why can some 883 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,640 why is it set off for others and not thing? 884 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,800 And why is it so specific for some people and not others? 885 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,920 I think it might be coming down and I'm not saying it's not a 886 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,000 supernatural thing at all yet, but I feel like it might be a a 887 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,400 manifestation, A consciousness thing and it and it is still 888 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,200 related to energy. It is still related to magnetic 889 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,080 fields. It's still off the person but it 890 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,800 seems like that's the thing. Like even you yourself have 891 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,000 said, your mood affects the spirits. 892 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,480 So, so let me, so, so let me, let me, let me build off this. 893 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,600 I Yeah, please. I I always say that this is what 894 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,560 I think spirits are. I believe their memories. 895 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,600 I believe their consciousness. It's just a theory. 896 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,240 Obviously, I don't have the proof. 897 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,040 The other side of that coin, and it's something I rarely talk 898 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,040 about, is the other theory of what spirits are. 899 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,560 And the other theory is that spirits don't exist, that 900 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,880 spirits, we're making them up. Not that we're lying, not that 901 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,880 we're full of shit, that we're actually creating these entities 902 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,760 basically in line what you're saying now, I've always 903 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,080 struggled with this because it's like, yo, anybody who knows me, 904 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,080 especially if you watch my live streams, my brain is insane. 905 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,440 I, I can on the whim come up with a song, you know, and 906 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,520 sometimes make that song really catchy. 907 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,400 I can create. I mean, what before, right 908 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,840 before we go live, I'm sitting here and I'm literally building 909 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,800 a program that's not only going to be involved with my, you 910 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,200 know, it's going to be the investigation side of what I'm 911 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,760 doing on top of the documenting, right? 912 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,040 Like I'm constantly doing things, constantly making 913 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,400 things. What if my brain is projecting 914 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600 out and creating these entities, Right? 915 00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:59,880 But then I had an experience the other night. 916 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,600 I had an experience, Gary, the other night. 917 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,920 Oh. No, go ahead, finish because I'm 918 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,200 I'm going to bring it back to even. 919 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,080 Our I had, I had an experience the other night that shattered 920 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,360 that completely because I've always struggled with that. 921 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,880 I never talk about it because if I sit here and say, hey, I'm 922 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,240 making this up, everyone's going to is going to misconstrue those 923 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:17,320 words, right? They're not going. 924 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,320 To, but it doesn't have to be conscious either. 925 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,480 But go ahead. Yeah, exactly. 926 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,120 It's not, it's not conscious. It's like a subconscious thing. 927 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,680 Oh, 100 percent, 100%. So like what your theory is 928 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,480 like, you know, it's spot on because it's something that 929 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,960 I've, I've thought about too. But then the other night I had 930 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,240 something really crazy happen to me. 931 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,240 Something really crazy. I took the Sam mask, right? 932 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,360 And I, and I, and I attached it to the clock that I have in here 933 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,560 and I've lost control of the situation. 934 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,680 I completely lost control of the situation. 935 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,840 They started talking about killing Liam and, and all like, 936 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,840 like they, they wouldn't stop talking about it. 937 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,200 And I, I actually had to RIP the mask off the clock and say, OK, 938 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,320 guys, fun's over. You know, I've lost control of 939 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,040 this situation. But now play, now play this 940 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,480 scenario out in your mind, in your head. 941 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,760 When you were doing that, you were probably wondering what 942 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,920 will happen if I put these together. 943 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,640 No. And on some level, well, no. 944 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,920 In my in in my mind, I was trying to blackmail or control 945 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,200 the entity is what I was trying to do. 946 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,440 I basically said, hey, I'll give you this, but now you're my 947 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,800 bitch. That's literally what I tried to 948 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,120 do and it and it backfired. It completely backfired because 949 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,560 yeah, it, you know, I was in control. 950 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,320 I just wasn't in control of the entire situation. 951 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,280 And whatever happened completely like it went out of control. 952 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,160 And I've been doing this for years and I have never, ever 953 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,440 heard anything like that. Now let me, let me, let me just 954 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,760 point this other little let me point this other thing out, 955 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,600 especially after meeting our guest today. 956 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,120 What do you, she and Netzel have in common? 957 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,320 I don't see that's the thing. That's the that's that's the 958 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,560 thing if it's not the brain and the consciousness creating this. 959 00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:15,920 ADHD she's that that is true, that is true there's a. 960 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,000 She has ADHD. Netzel definitely has a DHDI. 961 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,520 Have ADHD. There's a, you know, it's a, 962 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:23,920 it's a, it's a focus, it's an energy. 963 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,360 It's a different sort of. It's weird. 964 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,240 I'm not look. You know, supposedly people with 965 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:33,880 ADHD have have smaller brains. Like, well, yeah, supposedly, 966 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:34,840 dude. I mean that we're going to, 967 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,720 we're going to start, the people are going to start accusing this 968 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,200 to be like RFK or something. We're going to get so stupid and 969 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,720 crazy. We're not listen, we are not 970 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,360 doctors. Vaccinate, Vaccinate. 971 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:46,360 All the kids from the cemeteries now. 972 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:54,280 We are not doctors, we are just having some blue collar bar 973 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,840 room. The sessions based on things we 974 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,040 are not learned. Doctors do not take what we say 975 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,040 as medical advice in any way, and if you do, you deserve 976 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,440 whatever is coming to you. Such a. 977 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,560 Disclaimer. I'm just telling you straight 978 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,320 up, do not listen to medical advice. 979 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,720 For either one of us. But anyway, but but the point is 980 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,880 right. I just like I all it is is it it 981 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,440 built right The more dots if the more dots you gather a a clearer 982 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,080 picture. Also like when you. 983 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,320 Get farther away. I'm trying to say this without 984 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,360 sounding egotistical, right? So let me put this way. 985 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:40,640 If you analyze me and Netzel and analyze the the interactions we 986 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,920 have with spirits, they're completely different. 987 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,880 They are completely different. Like they are like, you know, 988 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,840 like they're not the same. If you review Netzel's evidence 989 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,680 to review my evidence with spirit interaction, they are 990 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,840 completely different, which is why when we get together, it's 991 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,360 so fun and good because it's literally two different things 992 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,760 coming together in it and it works, right? 993 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,120 So like, you know, you could turn around and say, hey, all 994 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,880 the objects in that bowl are fruit, right? 995 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,160 Oranges, grapes, bananas, you know, whatever, they're fruit. 996 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,640 But all those fruit are completely different. 997 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,520 So should they all be in the same bowl? 998 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,480 Yeah, you're a bunch of fruits is what you're. 999 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,520 Saying a bunch of flying fruit friends, you know, that's all 1000 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,320 I'm saying, like. Send me up for that dad joke. 1001 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,720 Yeah, yeah. So listen, it it, it's just like 1002 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,600 when you break it down and you really look at it. 1003 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,920 Sure, yeah, you guys do the paranormal, Yeah, you get 1004 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,840 evidence. But what, what Amber got, you 1005 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,320 know, it's completely different than what I what I get and what 1006 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,880 I get is completely different. She's using very classic stuff. 1007 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,160 She was using very classic stuff too, right? 1008 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,360 Like real funny, like digital recorders, things like that. 1009 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,920 But I'm just saying anyway, this is sort of where I'm going now, 1010 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,440 where we're, I like what you're saying about where we were this 1011 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,120 past year. Now we're now we could talk 1012 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,000 about a little bit where we're going, you know, because we. 1013 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,840 What did you what did you get out of this? 1014 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,040 This is what I've got. This is literally when I've 1015 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:12,800 gotten out of it. Dude. 1016 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,960 From I'm I'm starting to paint a picture. 1017 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,400 OK. Oh, so the theory and and and 1018 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,600 and. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. 1019 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,200 Of, you know, from all these different perspectives of what 1020 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,320 we're seeing, it's starting to paint a clearer picture or not 1021 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,960 clear. That's the wrong word. 1022 00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:28,240 It's starting to paint a picture. 1023 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,960 Of. What's happening? 1024 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,880 You know, a tapestry. You see in the back of that 1025 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,480 tapestry. Right there and and it's like, 1026 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,080 dude, the books I'm reading, the books I'm reading, the people 1027 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,760 we're meeting, the stories we're setting. 1028 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,600 So and it's like it, it's all. Well, it's all interesting. 1029 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,200 I've gone on record on my live scene in a bunch of times. 1030 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,360 You could go back to Episode 1 and watch all the episodes, all 1031 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,600 the live streams that we've done, and you see your 1032 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,440 progression, like your attitude switched. 1033 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,160 Yeah. Man, it's like I, I think it's. 1034 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,680 Wild. It's like, you know, you went 1035 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,400 from like, Oh yeah, my my nephew talks to fucking ghosts to OK, 1036 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,600 my nephew talks to ghosts, you know? 1037 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,440 But that's the beauty of this. I've always said it's like I'm 1038 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,040 coming in it as I want to understand, not that I want to 1039 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,880 debunk, but that I want to understand. 1040 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,320 So that's there's a difference there. 1041 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,640 And, you know, so look, what do we got coming up, man, that's 1042 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,520 going to speak to a lot of this. So we've got, we've got a lot of 1043 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,520 fun stuff. Our next guest is Lauren 1044 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,720 Hellickson. She's the ghost hunter who 1045 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,240 doesn't believe in ghosts as by her own, by her own admission, 1046 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:36,000 you know, and she's a, you know, she invents her own budget 1047 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,880 because she invents her own R.E.M. pods. 1048 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,320 It's like we're going to, we're going to this, this first 1049 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,680 quarter of the show, we, we talked to a lot of more 1050 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,720 skeptical type of people for sure. 1051 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,000 Now we balance it, of course, but you know, we've got a few 1052 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,640 people from the the CIF, the the like the critical I forgot and 1053 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,720 I'm blank and what they stand for. 1054 00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:02,680 But James underdown and is a guest and then Benjamin Radford, 1055 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:09,800 like these guys are real hardcore critics of the 1056 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,840 paranormal and they really investigate what they do. 1057 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:20,280 Benjamin moreso is a he wants I I feel like Benjamin wants to 1058 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,280 believe, you know, he goes out there and he really 1059 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,640 investigates. James is like, this shit's not 1060 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,480 real. It's like, you know, and he's a 1061 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,840 real different and it's really funny and it's a different 1062 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,080 thing. Both wonderful guys to talk to. 1063 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,840 Yeah, yeah, both on the other side of that. 1064 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,600 On the other side of that coin, we've got a chip coffee, you 1065 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,800 know Classic been on multiple. Shows people waiting for that 1066 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,600 one. Kindred spirits. 1067 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,280 A lot of people are waiting. For psych, he's a psychic 1068 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,800 medium. Psychic Kids. 1069 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640 He was on kindred spirits, Paranormal State. 1070 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,080 This guy's seen it all, man. He's been around. 1071 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,240 He knows it. He's felt it. 1072 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:55,880 He's first. It's from an early age. 1073 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,640 Another, you know. What's cool and what's cool? 1074 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,280 And I, and I always say this too, what's cool about Chip is 1075 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,760 he's one of those guests that we had that if we had the time, we 1076 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,320 would have stayed talking to like it would have been like 1077 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,040 when the cameras were done, we all stayed in our boxes and we 1078 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,200 started chit chat and then we all had things that we had to 1079 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,160 leave. Like he's. 1080 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,600 Yeah, what a. Great. 1081 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,240 We leave. Yeah, He's, he's going to be. 1082 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,720 It's a great guest. Great guest. 1083 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,560 Great dude. We've we've also got we've also 1084 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,960 got Monique too soon. Yes, I think the only, if not 1085 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,520 the only certainly one of the first. 1086 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,400 I haven't found another drag queen ghost hunter and this 1087 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,080 really goes to this like the energy shift, like the 1088 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,600 manifestation like and when you hear Monique talk about her 1089 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,520 ghost hunting, it's like it's a whole different energy in the 1090 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,520 room because everybody's energy is up. 1091 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,800 But is it the spirits? That's that's it's. 1092 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,160 Anyway, there's a whole thing right that comes. 1093 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,040 Out of that, that's a really awesome guest. 1094 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,520 Oh my God, so good. Monique is great, so great. 1095 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,600 I'm really excited for that. That's going to air. 1096 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,720 These are all February. And then we've got a couple of 1097 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,360 other fun ones, right? We've got the thing that we've 1098 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,720 always talked about that we've been talking about our group 1099 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:12,200 Estes method, thanks to our friends at Silence activations, 1100 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,520 you know, who helped us get with our, you know? 1101 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,800 With the. Headphones and there's some real 1102 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:22,320 fun stuff in there, right? And you know, that's, you know, 1103 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,480 that what what comes through the soundboard, you know, that'll be 1104 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,600 fun. And it's you know, it's a start. 1105 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,480 That's a start of a good experiment. 1106 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,680 Kathy Nadal comes back. She gives me a coffee reading 1107 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:34,800 sort of coffee seems to be a theme. 1108 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,880 Chip coffee, coffee reading and a couple weeks of coffee in 1109 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:45,840 there to tell my predictions. And then, and then we got some 1110 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,640 more stuff, more stuff, more guests. 1111 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,080 We got some more live guests coming up, the blue Bodie, 1112 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,880 another psychic and she's had a couple of near death 1113 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,440 experiences. For those who don't know who she 1114 00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:03,640 is, she's some would argue the equivalent of me with the 1115 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:09,080 paranormal, like what she's experienced, what she deals with 1116 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:16,080 on the daily, how she's horribly imitated horribly, and nobody 1117 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,280 does it like she does. And you can tell. 1118 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,760 And, and if you've never seen her and you check her out and 1119 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,120 you're into the witches and you're into that culture and 1120 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,760 that community, you're going to see her and you're going to go, 1121 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,720 oh wow. Now I see all the other copycats 1122 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,640 that have come after her and that imitated her. 1123 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,440 So she is awesome. And if you're into witchcraft 1124 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,480 and you're into all that, you're going to love love her on 1125 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,120 splintered spirits. I got another, I got a couple 1126 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,120 witches coming on the lives to join us that all have different 1127 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,720 focuses, you know, and sort of how they look at spirit. 1128 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,040 And I'm shooting. I'm going to go shoot. 1129 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,200 I'm going to get a crash course in divination from none other 1130 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,480 than Paddy Negri. Oh, oh, nice. 1131 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,640 She's another. She's another. 1132 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,600 Cool. Super famous, you know, very 1133 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,960 plugged into the community. She's going to give me a crash 1134 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,440 course in divination. I'm going to go to her house and 1135 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,200 she's going to teach me about like what it all means and how 1136 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,840 spirit works and that I don't even know what it means. 1137 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,560 I don't even know. I got to look up divination. 1138 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,760 I'm not quite sure what it means. 1139 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,840 I feel like is that when I get divided into a house? 1140 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,560 No, no, technically, technically people would argue that what I 1141 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,520 do is divination with the spirit boxes. 1142 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,320 Some people would argue that the spirit boxes in general, whether 1143 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:39,000 it's an app or a device you make or even using an EMF meter to 1144 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,640 communicate with the dead, is a divination tool. 1145 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,760 So you know, like scrying mirrors, tarot card and where? 1146 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,960 Did you subscribe? You know you name anything, 1147 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,840 basically asking a question to an unknown, unseen source. 1148 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,720 I see, that's just general. I mean, that's the easiest way 1149 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:04,800 to explain it, you know? So listen, guys, if you're, if 1150 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,200 you're new and you're just checking this out now and you're 1151 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:13,120 into this stuff like share, comment, subscribe, we got, I 1152 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,920 don't think there's a lot, a lot of there's not a lot of 1153 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,800 paranormal podcasts doing what we're doing. 1154 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,000 There's a lot of great ones, a lot of good people. 1155 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,000 Oh, we got, oh, we've got another really fun crossover 1156 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,600 coming up at the end of the month. 1157 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,600 Ashley Marino, we're going to, she's going to be on ours. 1158 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,640 We're going to interview her on the live and then we're going to 1159 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,160 hop over to theirs and we're going to she's, they're going to 1160 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,760 interview us on their live. So it's like we're doing a lot 1161 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,960 of fun stuff, you know, coming up this month in this first 1162 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,160 quarter and hopefully it'll continue to grow and get bigger. 1163 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,840 Let's take a look at the old chat. 1164 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,000 Let's see what these people are saying. 1165 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,320 Guys, I'm sorry we've been ignoring you. 1166 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,640 We've had guests, we've had a lot of catch up to catch up on. 1167 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,640 Let's see. A lot of people love Chip. 1168 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,760 Yep, Yep. Well, we're going to do, we're 1169 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,360 going to do more than just a follow up with with the the 1170 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,280 Witch from the Serpent's Key. The next time I go to 1171 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,040 Gettysburg, I'm going to visit her shop in Hanover. 1172 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,480 Yeah, that'll be great. And and by the way, her that 1173 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,560 case is going to go on for a while for like, I mean, I don't 1174 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,920 know if I don't know if you guys are familiar with how the law 1175 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:20,280 works, but the it's slow, dude, it's super slow. 1176 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,560 And I'm guessing, I'm guessing like condemning A tarot card 1177 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,440 reader is not at the top of the docket for the for the courts 1178 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,720 right now. Not at all. 1179 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,200 So she's got a free reign to do her thing while that they have a 1180 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,240 free reign to do their thing while that's all happening. 1181 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,400 But it's. Yeah, that's funny. 1182 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,000 We'll see what else we got talking about. 1183 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,600 Cynthia, you're from Savannah, so you know the third Hearst 1184 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,520 tour. There could be only one. 1185 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:55,640 There's totally one Yeah. Chips. 1186 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,120 Awesome. What a great guess he was. 1187 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,160 Steven Ballew. I don't know who that is, Hale, 1188 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,080 But I'll look him up. Let's see. 1189 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,240 What else do you guys have to say for yourselves? 1190 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,280 What does anybody think of my theory? 1191 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,680 Like you're a fucking idiot. We believe in ghosts, dude. 1192 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,720 What if we're both right? See, that's the other thing too. 1193 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,320 That's why I love the paranormal. 1194 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,520 There's no rule written that only one thing is accurate. 1195 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:32,680 What if it's multiple factors and multiple variables that 1196 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,200 coincide, right? Like what if it's like, what if 1197 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,120 it is? What if it is something mental 1198 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,760 projected, but something's there receiving it and feeding off it? 1199 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,280 What if what we're speaking to isn't really what's there 1200 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,480 because of that, because it's tainted with whatever we're 1201 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,880 projecting? I mean, too, it could go on and 1202 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,880 on, right? I mean, what do you think about 1203 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,760 it? So that's pretty cool. 1204 01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,880 That's why I love the paranormal. 1205 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,040 You know nothing. No, it's crazy, dude. 1206 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,600 Are you saying you're saying I sound? 1207 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,360 People are saying I sound quiet. Some. 1208 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,480 Can you hear me? OK, Quiet. 1209 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,560 Yeah, I hear you're just fine. Oh, OK. 1210 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:16,400 Hold on one second. So that's pretty cool. 1211 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,440 That's why I love the paranormal. 1212 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,920 You know nothing. No, it's crazy. 1213 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,480 No, you found you sound fast. OK, Well, at least through the 1214 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,680 sense of paranormal Y TS. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1215 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,880 That's what I the demonologist. Oh, James Anito you're talking 1216 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,560 about, right? James Anito was. 1217 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,120 He's an interesting cat. I like that guy. 1218 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,160 Yeah. Demon. 1219 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,680 Well, we'll get more demonologists. 1220 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:44,840 You know, he's a James comes across to me like he's like the 1221 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:50,360 hip young demonologist, right? You know, he's he's like trying 1222 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,320 to, you know, he's carving a path for demonology in a new 1223 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,320 way. In, in in some sense, in some 1224 01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:03,120 sense, you know, But yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's. 1225 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,080 Yeah, we got a a very. Exciting 2020. 6 coming it's. 1226 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,200 Going to be great guys and yeah, February especially, that's our 1227 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,960 one year anniversary. That's when we dropped this 1228 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:20,760 group S this method episode. We have Chip Coffee and Monique 1229 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,640 too soon who can't come soon enough because that's a great 1230 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,560 episode too. You see what I did there? 1231 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,160 Yeah, I did like what I did. That's good. 1232 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,400 See what I did there? Yeah, she was such an awesome 1233 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,240 guest. Oh, so fun. 1234 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,960 So fun. I have nothing else. 1235 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,160 I have nothing else to say that was a good. 1236 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,960 One. Yeah, well, John, Gary, another 1237 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,880 fun episode as usual. So we we're doing our best. 1238 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,280 We're doing our best. Doing what we can do, you know. 1239 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,400 And for anybody who came late and is like, no, I missed the 1240 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,040 beginning, don't worry, you know how it goes. 1241 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,760 We drop this, you'll have it. You'll have it tomorrow wherever 1242 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,360 podcasts are available. But please smash that like 1243 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,840 button, Smash that subscribe button. 1244 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,240 Share with a friend. Yes, help us out. 1245 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,480 Follow across the board my friend. 1246 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,920 Splintered spirits, we are everywhere. 1247 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,800 Everywhere. These comments are good. 1248 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,840 Zoo Crew welcome. I don't recognize the name Zoo 1249 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:15,760 Crew. Are you new? 1250 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:16,840 I love it. No Zoo Crew. 1251 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,680 I haven't seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1252 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,080 I've already seen a new number. Zoo Crew might be one a year. 1253 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,120 It might be a standard on Santa, but maybe now they're 1254 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,120 recognizing. Wait a minute, Santa has more. 1255 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,200 Yeah. Oh yeah. 1256 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,680 There's more to Santa the Santa paranormal universe. 1257 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,760 There is yes. There is sure is, yes. 1258 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,240 There is so great, so great and meow listen, I just have AI have 1259 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,880 a generally low voice. I like to have that ASMR thing 1260 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,640 going on to keep you. Keep it. 1261 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,200 Deep try to I try to keep it like you know, keep everybody 1262 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,320 here with me keep it cool you know, I just try to do it like 1263 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,040 that get them all relaxed get everybody relaxed, you know, 1264 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:03,640 ready yeah keep it keep it open and ready smooth, smooth like. 1265 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,600 Old way. All right. 1266 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,800 Well, Gary, good fun everybody. You going? 1267 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,240 What do you do tonight? You need to be alive tonight. 1268 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,760 Where are you from? There's a freezing there. 1269 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,840 I. Am going to be live tonight and 1270 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,960 I have to check the weather but when I last checked it's 1271 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,440 supposed to be cold but not windy. 1272 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,400 It's windy here like crazy. And if that wind is not out 1273 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,000 there, I'm I'm getting my ass out there because I'm getting 1274 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,960 cooped up, man. Again, this weather here in New 1275 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,680 York has just been ridiculous. It's just been every night it's 1276 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,360 been the the same. It's either super cold and the 1277 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,560 wind on top of it dropping the temperature even more, or it's 1278 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,000 raining, you know, and it's just, or like freezing rain, you 1279 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,880 know. So it's just been horrible, like 1280 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,400 horrible that you then you get people. 1281 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,280 You don't go in the cemeteries anymore. 1282 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,560 And it's like, do I have really have to explain weather to you? 1283 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,160 Do I really? And you know, there's things, 1284 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,520 dude, there's so many things I'd want to say, you know, it's 1285 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,160 like, do I have to explain how weather works? 1286 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,200 Just because it's winter here doesn't mean this winter is the 1287 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,440 same for you. You know, enjoy your 40°, you 1288 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,720 know. You have to explain how weather. 1289 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,840 It's like, dude, we got a real education problem, Yeah. 1290 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,040 Big time, Big time. It's a real problem. 100 1291 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,280 percent, 100%, yeah. But you know, that's another 1292 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,360 podcast for another for another person. 1293 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,080 It's true. Why do these fucking people 1294 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,440 believe in angels? No, right? 1295 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,360 That's what the Ten Commandments up in the school room. 1296 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,800 Yeah. Oh, man. 1297 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,520 All right, everybody. Oh boy. 1298 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,520 Gary, listen, thank you so much. We love you guys. 1299 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,760 Thank you for making last year a great one. 1300 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,000 Help us make this year even better. 1301 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,720 More to come. We will see you next week. 1302 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,160 That's it for us, everyone. John, Love you. 1303 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,760 See you. Love you later. 1304 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,040 Well, that's it for another episode of Splintered Spirits. 1305 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,920 Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to our YouTube 1306 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,160 channel, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1307 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,560 Until next time, stay curious.