1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,360 Welcome to Splintered Spirits, a podcast hosted by me, Gary and 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,280 my nephew Johnny, where I follow Johnny as he tries to prove his 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,080 theory that ghosts are the fractured memories of the living 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,360 once they pass on. In this episode, we brought back 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,720 Kathy Nadal, a medium with the Forever Family Foundation, to 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,560 give Johnny a reading. Let me be clear, these episodes 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,600 may have dropped weeks apart, but we recorded them within days 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,960 of my meeting with Kathy. Johnny has three years worth of 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,160 Tik Toks, hundreds of videos online. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,280 I don't believe she could have gone through them all in that 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,640 time. And she certainly hasn't 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,320 followed Johnny and watched the thousands of hours of live 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,240 broadcasts he's done over the years. 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,200 That's what it would take in order to fake the things you're 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,280 about to hear today. Whatever Kathy's got, you can't 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,040 buy it. So let's dive into the 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,360 conversation. Kathy, thank you for joining us 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,320 here. You know, we apologize for 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,640 giving you the wrong address. And the fact that you found it 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,840 is already a testament to your abilities as a medium and a 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,160 psychic. We want to give Johnny a reading 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,880 today. We are trying to prove what 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Johnny's theory on spirits are. And Johnny, why don't you tell 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Kathy what you think spirits are? 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,680 So I have a series that that we are our memories essentially, 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,320 and when we die, because listen, I'm an atheist, I don't believe 27 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:26,080 in heaven, hell, any of that. However, I've spoken to too much 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,240 and I've seen too much to know that we don't go to black. 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,240 There's more out there and a lot more complicated than any of us 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,720 can even imagine. So I have a theory that we are 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,360 memory, then our memories scatter when we die, we no 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,360 longer have a vessel to contain ourselves. 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,560 They're gravitated to certain points in our history, certain 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,560 places, people. I do believe a percentage of our 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,240 energy does go to our loved ones. 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,360 I also believe we have a percentage of that generational 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,800 energy as well, those memories. So I believe, and what I've been 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:06,000 trying to do is prove that I can speak to these spirits, these 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 memories in in different locations. 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,960 And that's what we're doing here on this podcast. 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,560 OK. So Kathy, I'm going to sit back 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,960 and see what comes through when you give Johnny a reading. 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Does that sound good? Yeah, so I'm going to give him 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,040 the a similar reading that I gave you, which is psychic 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,680 comedianship. All right, so thank you, Johnny, 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,160 for meeting with me. I just want you to know how I 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,840 work. I'm psychic. 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,200 I'm clairvoyant, which means I can see, and I'm clairaudient, 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,160 which means I can hear. That's how it works when I work 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,520 as a psychic, but it's also how I work when I work as a medium. 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,920 I either see spirit, hear spirit, or see and hear spirit. 52 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,160 Basically, before I do any work, I do a meditation. 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,960 So before I left my home today, I did a meditation in 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,240 preparation for this reading. So that's just how I work as I 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,160 start out. It's interesting because the way 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,760 I the way I work, I see things in symbols, but I also see 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,280 things like in video clips and sometimes I hear things that 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,400 sound like a recording, like someone actually talking to me. 59 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:13,400 So whatever information I give you, I'm just going to give it 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,080 to you, OK? It's interesting because even as 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,320 I was driving over here, I felt very, very much like I wanted to 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,680 talk to like the younger Johnny. I feel very much like, I want to 63 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,640 bring you up when you're like 10 years old, eleven years old, 12 64 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:33,400 years old. I feel very much tied to like, 65 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,480 sectioning off that aegis for you. 66 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,320 OK. And it was interesting. 67 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,680 As I was driving over here, I kept hearing a young voice, like 68 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,200 a young boy's voice. As I go back to this 1011 and 12 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,040 years, I also feel a little bit split. 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,560 I feel split with you because I feel like I want to go to 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,200 school, but I don't want to go to school. 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,040 And I feel split about it. And, and there's a little bit 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,120 more of this when you're more like 11 or 12 years old. 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,000 It's like you don't want to go anymore. 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,960 It's like I don't belong there. I don't need to be there. 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,760 I'm an adult already. Your mind was already going like 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,680 as an adult, as an adult. And the bigger piece of it is 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,360 that certain things that you saw like in the other kids, you 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,360 didn't feel like connected to them. 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,480 You felt like, I don't need to be here. 81 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Like if someone said here's a job and you're 12 years old, 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,200 you'd be like, I'll take it. She's. 100% correct. 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,160 By the way, what everything she's. 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,280 Saying there's something about like, I don't want to be at 85 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:33,160 school, I don't like these kids and whatever. 86 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,840 There's also like someone with an L. 87 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,560 This feels almost like a lady with an Li. 88 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,600 Don't know if she's family but I do feel very much like an L 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,480 around with you. There's actually a few women 90 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,440 with an L name in Johnny's life, including his wife, his sister, 91 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:54,600 even some spirits. And you really should have 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,440 pursued artwork or drawing. You need to go back to that. 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,040 Do you understand what I mean by that? 94 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,080 I see a lot of artwork or drawing around you. 95 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:07,600 As far as art, not art like drawing art. 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Now, this speaks directly to Johnny's theory of generational 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,000 memory, energy transference, or whatever you want to call it. 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,040 My sister, his mother, is an artist. 99 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 She still paints and makes things for sale but never really 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,280 took the opportunity to pursue it as her profession because she 101 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:26,200 got knocked up with this ghost whisperer. 102 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,760 OK. And pursuing other things. 103 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:34,520 I'm still seeing it as artwork. I keep seeing this thing and I 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,880 don't know what it connects to. Do you used to take the trains a 105 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,400 lot? Because I feel like I'm getting 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,800 on and getting off the trains. That's why I'm seeing the 107 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,080 feeding, I'm seeing greats. I feel like I'm standing on it 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,920 great and there's hot air coming up at me. 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,280 And there's a significance to you being on the trains. 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,480 There's more than that because I feel like you may have had a 111 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,640 spirit connection on a train or people on the train had spirit 112 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,480 activity around that. But when I go to, because I'm 113 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,960 asking questions constantly in my head, where does this come 114 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,640 from? They bring me to you traveling 115 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,240 on the trains. So you may have been around 116 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,200 spirit energy or activity at a younger age and may not have 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,040 been aware that it was happening. 118 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:31,080 But there's a lot of activity when you are on the trains, and 119 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,680 I think that's where you pick it up. 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:39,600 I believe in ghost activity or a ghost where some people say, 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880 like, if you don't protect yourself, you could bring a 122 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,520 ghost home with you. OK. 123 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:47,920 I do believe that certain people feel that they could get 124 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:54,200 attachments and I do feel like your train activity is kind of 125 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,480 flavoring some of that where you may have been around ghost or 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,320 spirit activity on those trains. There is a historical connection 127 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,040 with you and it feels very much like I go back to like the Civil 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,760 War. There's a lot of like fighting 129 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,560 references around you, like you're in the Civil War or 130 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,120 people have bayonets on their rifles. 131 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,320 There's a lot of battleground in your background and that's why I 132 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,680 feel very strongly that even in your dreams you may feel 133 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,680 confrontational, but you're not sure why. 134 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,440 You may not even see the person you're fighting in a dream, but 135 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 you feel like you've been fighting in a dream. 136 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,160 I do also, and I believe in past lives. 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,280 I don't know if you do or not, it doesn't matter. 138 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,880 But you may have been a sheriff at one time because I keep 139 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,440 seeing a Gold Star, like wearing a Gold Star, you know, defender, 140 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,760 protector, all of that. And there's a flight or fight in 141 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,480 you that I think came on at a very early age. 142 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:06,480 Who's Mary Marie in the family? Nobody that I know. 143 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 I want to slap him right now because his grandmother, my 144 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,120 mother's name is Anne Marie. However, what do you feel when 145 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,360 you feel Mary? There's, I have a woman on the 146 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,440 other side. Oh. 147 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Well, my mother's not dead. Mary, Mary, Mary and she's 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,920 pointing to you. There's three women in spirit 149 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,840 that connect with you. The one that knows you in living 150 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,080 life though, and I have to say she feels family to me. 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,880 That's why I keep wanting to call her like a grandmother 152 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,400 person. The other person keeps pointing 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,480 at you and saying Mary, Mary, Mary and I don't know what she's 154 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,680 doing with that. There's someone with a name like 155 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:50,600 Phil Bill. I mean Bill as in like William, 156 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:56,880 yes, but not family. Is this like a significant 157 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,120 person in your life? Well, you have a lot of contact 158 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,480 with that. In my living life, that makes 159 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,920 sense. If these were normal 160 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,680 circumstances, it makes no sense. 161 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,080 Keep going. Whatever I get. 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,160 Yeah, keep going. Just. 163 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,200 Scan everything I've given you so far. 164 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,520 I do, and then I'll get into why. 165 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,600 And Gary, this is going to blow your mind. 166 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,440 OK, All right, keep going. So as I give you information, 167 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:26,360 you know, I feel very, I have a cold as I do this reading, but 168 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,760 my voice is off. But I feel extremely short of 169 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,800 breath when I'm connecting to spirit. 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,920 So someone in Spirit had a very significant respiratory problem 171 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:42,760 where either that is what took their life or it's something 172 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,400 that you would know about. OK, whatever you got going on. 173 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,280 These ghosts that I call them because I think they're ghosts. 174 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,280 That's the way I see them. They are around you, they keep 175 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,960 company with you because some of the people that are ghosts, 176 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,360 they're very lonely people and they bring a lonely energy with 177 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,520 them and they're looking for company and that's why I feel 178 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,120 like they come to you. You have a very welcoming 179 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,480 energy. There it is, a certified medium 180 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,040 just stated that there are in fact spirits around Johnny. 181 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,880 We still don't know what those spirits are, but we do have a 182 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,760 corroborating witness. And I feel like they find 183 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,480 company with you. Some guy looks like a janitor to 184 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,240 me. I don't know if he has a wrench 185 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,560 in his hand or he's got he's got something metal in his hand and 186 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:44,160 he looks like a janitor or he looks like a plumber, but he's 187 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,280 carrying something metal in his hand. 188 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:53,000 And I feel like you would say I heard tapping or metal pipes 189 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,760 tapping, but there's a distinct metal sound that he he could 190 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:03,480 make or he could make the sound metal sounding because he's this 191 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,440 plumber or this janitor man. Do you know the man I'm talking 192 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,880 about? I do know the man you're talking 193 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,960 about. What do you feel from him? 194 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,720 So I feel like he's a little bit lost. 195 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,320 He wasn't too happy with his life. 196 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,480 He felt like he was stuck in a rush and I feel like he was 197 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,920 misunderstood. I feel very odd when he talks 198 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,080 about himself, he says he's like, not a smart guy or people 199 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:38,200 said I wasn't a smart guy and he just felt like people rolled 200 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,800 over. I was just about, I was stopping 201 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,520 myself from saying, do you feel that he's been taken advantage 202 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,800 of? It's amazing though, because 203 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,280 what he just showed me is, you know, when you see like when 204 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,640 somebody says, you know, a cartoon, when somebody says 205 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,280 splat and they show this thing, splat, I am cartoon. 206 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,880 That's what he showed me. Like the arms and the legs 207 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,960 splat. That's wild. 208 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,880 There's. Also a spirit that's like a 209 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,840 peeping Tom or something, but I feel like they play with the 210 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,640 blinds or they're trying to look through the blinds. 211 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,160 Wow. Like a peeping Tom. 212 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,800 It's a weird feeling. I don't think they're doing it. 213 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,360 My voice is so bad. Would. 214 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,640 You like some water? I'll have a water. 215 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,040 She's talking about the spirit across the street. 216 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,440 She's the window's right there. That's what she's talking about 217 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,840 right now. And the one she brought up 218 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,160 before, we'll get into that because that's a big one. 219 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,840 So all right, may I, may I speak? 220 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,200 I think I just want to go a little bit. 221 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,720 Further, keep going, keep going, keep going. 222 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,000 Please do. There's like a name, Lucille or 223 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,640 Lucy. OK, Lucille. 224 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Yeah. I don't know what that's 225 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,560 connected to, but I just see it and it's very interesting 226 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:02,880 because did you ever play the game of chess not? 227 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,960 You know, not really. I know how to play. 228 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,640 I just. Never know for playing chess in 229 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,000 real life. Who would you know that plays 230 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,400 chess? Nobody. 231 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,520 I play chess. Oh. 232 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Wow. I play chess all the time. 233 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:18,960 I play it all. The time. 234 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,280 Oh wow. Because it's. 235 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Online all the time. Wow. 236 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,560 Yeah. No, I I don't. 237 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,080 None of my friends are that smart. 238 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,960 That's. Interesting that they just did 239 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,680 that, Gary, because they want to include you in. 240 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,040 This You could tell them to keep me the hell out of it. 241 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,080 That is wild. That is wild. 242 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,320 Wow, that is so interesting. They're kind of joking around. 243 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Who made fun of a nativity scene or who would steal the three 244 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,600 wise men? Oh, what? 245 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,200 That that is something, isn't it? 246 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,960 That is something dude. That is something, yes, Gary, 247 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,760 that's something man, I remember back in in something that's 248 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,560 something there that is we would have to we would have to consult 249 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:07,120 with the. That is. 250 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark that down because that's 251 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,640 something I remember something. About. 252 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,720 I just got chills about that, yeah. 253 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,440 And what is that happened all the time? 254 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:18,040 For those that don't speak New York, something ain't nothing 255 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,480 and it's a real thing. I remember exactly what it was. 256 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,800 Tell me. Say it. 257 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,160 You want me to? Say it. 258 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,480 Yeah, Yeah, say it. Uncle John's room. 259 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,960 That's. It's Uncle John's room. 260 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,280 It's all the statues. He's right. 261 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,720 My mother kept this nativity scene that used to be my 262 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,360 grandmother's set up in my brother's room after he passed. 263 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,560 But to be clear, it was my room. Not everything was my big 264 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,000 brother's just because he would crash there after I moved out. 265 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,040 I guarantee it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 266 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,200 That's wild. No, there is definitely 267 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,760 something with the nativity. So Gary, there's more 268 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,800 information and I don't know why, but I think it's for you. 269 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:03,560 They want me to mention the actress that played the mother 270 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,800 on the Happy Days. Her name was like Marian in the 271 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,560 show. She had like red hair. 272 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,640 They want me to bring up that actress and they want me to 273 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,520 bring it up for you. So either you know Marian, you 274 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:24,680 know the actress, or there's a significance to like the mother 275 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,800 on happiest happy days. I met her once. 276 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,120 I actually did meet her. Princess Cruise Lines had a big 277 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,920 event that they invited us to for like, you know, the relaunch 278 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,720 of The Love Boat. OK. 279 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,200 All right. So this is definitely about you. 280 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Great. They're trying to pull you into 281 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,280 this. I just tried Ron Howard's pool 282 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,960 table by accident once. I didn't mean to. 283 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,680 It's. Funny. 284 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 This is kind of interesting because they want to bring you 285 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,840 into this. Well, his light fixture above 286 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,720 the pool table, not the pool table itself. 287 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,680 It's kind of interesting, I have to say. 288 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:11,040 They keep showing me somebody laying down on like a roller and 289 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,960 sliding under a classic car like a Corvette. 290 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,640 It's like a mechanic that's laying on a roller and they 291 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:25,480 slide under the car to fix it. The car is not up on a lift and 292 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,760 they keep saying that's connected to you. 293 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,080 So do you know this mechanic person that's sliding under like 294 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,760 a classic car? Yeah, yes. 295 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,600 I mean, I know someone who would be working on classic cars. 296 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,520 OK. My brother was a mechanic and a 297 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,520 big refurbisher. Classic cars. 298 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,000 I think he remade a 69 CUDA. Don't quote me on that because I 299 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 don't know shit about cars, but he loved them and could build 300 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,800 one from the tires up. I I am going to step away. 301 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,760 I'm going to go have a smoke over here by the fan. 302 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,160 I'm going to hand you something. Is that OK? 303 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,440 And I want you to tell me what you feel about it, OK? 304 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,600 If you if you put it in your hands and you don't want to hold 305 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,119 anymore, just throw it on the ground. 306 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,359 Is he going to hurt me? No, it won't hurt. 307 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,400 You, but I don't know if you feel, you know, I don't know 308 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,160 what's going to happen. OK, OK. 309 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Well, John? You're not going to smoke around 310 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,160 her, right? She's got a cough. 311 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:16,319 Go smoke somewhere else. What's? 312 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:18,319 What I'm saying, I'm going to go to the vent fan. 313 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,760 I have a vent fan hooked up. Are you all right with that, 314 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,440 Kathy? Is that? 315 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,000 Yeah, no, I already, I already spoke to her about it. 316 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:28,119 So he handed me what looks like a noose. 317 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,400 It's like a piece of rope I was hanging on the wall. 318 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,800 I was looking at it before. I don't know, you know, to be 319 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,600 honest, I keep getting the horse reference when I'm holding. 320 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Wild. OK, keep going. 321 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,200 That. That's awesome. 322 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,320 I just get the horse and I get like a feeling like somebody's 323 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,560 whipping the horse or something. But it I I get like this kind of 324 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,960 like a lot of energy and like it not like happy energy, like I 325 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,600 get like angry energy, like someone smacking the horse with 326 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,760 this thing or something. At the same time, though, it's 327 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,960 really weird. As I'm holding this, I get like 328 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,280 a totally unrelated, maybe related reference, but I see 329 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,200 like an old man, like a captain of a ship, like smoking a pipe 330 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,800 and looking through like a telescope. 331 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,640 I don't know if he's a sea captain or something. 332 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,080 It's very weird. Keep going. 333 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,080 That is just so weird. And I just feel like I'm looking 334 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,680 out at the seas. But he does give me like a very 335 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,160 like like I feel like I want to be on Cape Cod or something. 336 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,160 Like I don't. I just feel very much like I'm 337 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,120 on the water with him or I'm looking at the water. 338 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,200 So what? There's some kind of a feeling 339 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:51,520 of like wanting to like win a war or win a battle or something 340 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,880 because I feel like I'm in a parade and people are having a 341 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,200 parade, but I don't feel like we're celebrating. 342 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,360 But I don't feel like we should be like we didn't really win the 343 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,920 war. Somebody feels conflicted at 344 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,160 like a parade or like why are we celebrating? 345 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,920 Like we're still at war or something. 346 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,840 I don't know. It's weird, very weird. 347 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,840 I don't know. Can I put this down? 348 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Just from holding that rope, you're saying? 349 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Well, I'm, I'm still, I was still holding it. 350 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:28,000 So I see stuff all the time. So I don't know. 351 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,000 I mean, you can put anything in my hand. 352 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,480 If I see something, I say it, yeah. 353 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,520 No, that's awesome. Let's dive into everything that 354 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,480 she said, OK? Tell me what hit you, Johnny. 355 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,920 We are going to start with, Mary, when you were seeing, you 356 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,160 know, the feeling and then speaking about what you were 357 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,480 feeling and seeing and what not is at least in my opinion from 358 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,840 the data that you were giving me, was literally referencing my 359 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,000 documentation. You've been referencing spirits 360 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:02,160 that I have encountered here at this factory. 361 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,640 Mary was a we believe she was either a spindalist or a 362 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,240 seamstress. What the hell is a spindalist? 363 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Unfortunate time here for a bit, but she worked here. 364 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:17,560 You brought up the man that slat. 365 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Remember when you said slat? There was a man who worked here 366 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,880 for many, many years. He was taken advantage of 367 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,600 towards the end of his life. They stopped paying him and he 368 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,040 tried to break into the office and felt he was death. 369 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,960 And I thought that was and you said, you know, like with the 370 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,880 metal and him banging and whatnot, that's all. 371 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,680 He was a maintenance guy here. And that I thought that's why. 372 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,920 What's really interesting is when I handed you that noose and 373 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,040 you brought up the horse and you brought up all that, that noose. 374 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,440 Have you ever heard of Buck Out Buck Out Rd. 375 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,720 Yeah, we used to go there used. To go there as teenagers, OK, 376 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,680 well, I. Just my sister dated a guy that 377 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,480 had a Camaro and we were I was sitting in the back seat with 378 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,360 another kid and they would fly up and then they would turn the 379 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:13,720 lights out and we would scream and he was still driving in the 380 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,200 dark, which. Yeah, which is dangerous on. 381 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,520 That road and that's. No, that's no joke on that road. 382 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,760 That was the 80s. Oh yeah, So a lot. 383 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Buck out has got a huge, huge history. 384 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:27,480 I mean, you brought up a war. You brought up the battle. 385 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,800 That's the battle of October 28th, 1776, the Battle of White 386 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,320 Plains. That's what caused George 387 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:40,080 Washington to lose and he had to retreat to New Jersey and they 388 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,280 lost New York and the British destroyed everything in this 389 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,120 area. And by Buck Out, that news is 390 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,560 from Buck Out. You brought up, you know, the 391 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,200 sadness and the anger and all that, which is why the horse, 392 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,600 which is why which it's so crazy that you kept bringing up the 393 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,400 horses too and whatnot. Have you ever heard of a Doula 394 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,640 Han? No. 395 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,960 So the spirits speak of a doula Han and what a doula Han is in 396 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,720 in in in Irish mythology. It's many different things, but 397 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,000 one way a doula Han can get created is through battle and 398 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,160 the person who's fighting loses their head. 399 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,160 And the spirits speak about a doula Han at Buck Out Rd. 400 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,160 As in a a horseback rider that lost his head and becomes this 401 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,920 creature. And funny enough, that's what 402 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,200 spawned the Legend of Sleepy Hollow. 403 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,920 Washington Irving got the Legend of Sleepy Hollow from Buck Out 404 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Rd. It's a legend. 405 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,200 It's actually a real legend of Buck out not Sleepy Hollow. 406 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Guys you know sleepy The legend of Sleepy Hollow is not a real 407 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,360 story. He took influences even the 408 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,200 characters are all influenced from real living people. 409 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,680 But so was the, the spirit, the, the, the Hessian soldier. 410 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,080 And that's how it got created. So that ties into my 411 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,440 documentation, basically everything that you were saying 412 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,240 that. And I understand why you would, 413 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,640 you know, you would get like, oh, it's, you know, it's the, 414 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,280 it's, it's for you, it's for you, you, you've been 415 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,480 referencing my documentation. Oh, wow, like throughout 416 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,920 everything you've been saying. So that's why. 417 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,360 And that's what I have been, I'm trying to hold it in, you know, 418 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,200 you're saying all these things and I'm like, she's literally 419 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,120 bringing up spirits that I have spoken to. 420 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,400 Now remember when you were talking about like the heaviness 421 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,400 of the chest and not being able, You brought it up right after 422 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,320 Mary. I got in contact with Mary doing 423 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,040 a spirit board. And whenever I connect with a 424 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,360 spirit board and it gets, and it gets heavy, I start to not being 425 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,120 able to breathe. I actually, I, I feel like 426 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,440 there's something pressing on my chest and I have to disconnect. 427 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,880 And that's what happened with with Mary when, you know, Mary 428 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,000 came through and told me all the horrible things that happened to 429 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,280 her. Oh. 430 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,360 Wow. So it was, yeah, like everything 431 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,640 that you were saying on that is just, it was just wild. 432 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,240 That's why and. Kathy, we got to ask. 433 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,960 I mean, were you sitting there studying his TikTok feed? 434 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,040 Were you looking at all these videos trying to memorize it in 435 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,960 the I don't know what day and 1/2 that we booked you for this? 436 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:15,680 Day I just joined TikTok today. In fact, I was not on TikTok 437 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,080 because I have a history of being in the military. 438 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,480 You're not allowed to be on TikTok. 439 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,960 There is everything that that that she brought up because 440 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,360 certain things I put on TikTok and then certain things I say 441 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,760 for, you know, later down the road and whatnot. 442 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:37,200 The documentation with the factory and half a buck out is 443 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,600 not on TikTok. The only way you would know the 444 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,920 information that you said is if you were actually watching my 445 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,120 feeds, and I mean constantly watching the streets. 446 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,840 But I also give you personal information about yourself being 447 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,040 a little boy and all of. That well, yes, yes, the whole 448 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,600 that, that was interesting because when it comes to 449 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,120 bullying and whatnot and forget about school, I wanted nothing 450 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,360 to do with school. I wanted nothing to do with 451 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,560 anybody around me. I always felt that I was not 452 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,880 superior but mentally more evolved. 453 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,720 But I said that. I said yeah. 454 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,600 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. 455 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Constantly. Oh yeah. 456 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,560 I was always wanted to venture off on my own. 457 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,080 I always wanted to do my own thing. 458 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,960 I'm still like that to this day. But I've always been that way. 459 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,840 And forget about school. I would not tolerate any sort of 460 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,560 bullying whatsoever. If I saw somebody getting picked 461 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,920 on, I put myself in the situation and I shouldn't have. 462 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,400 I didn't want to, but I wasn't going to allow what I was seeing 463 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,240 and hearing happening. You know, I had the power to do 464 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,480 something about it. So I did, you know, I took care 465 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,120 of it. So that was all that was also, 466 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,720 you know, accurate was getting to Dennis and all that. 467 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600 I believe, and don't quote me on this, I have to ask management 468 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,640 here, but I believe Dennis is the guy who ran this place up 469 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,080 until he died a couple years ago. 470 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,760 He was the head management guy. And I also believe that he he 471 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,400 had, he did something else with management, but it had to do 472 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,160 with the Army and I think it had to do with like MPs and whatnot. 473 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,720 Oh wow, because this guy, Dennis the Menace is. 474 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,960 Which would have been in that thing, yeah. 475 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,680 You know, he was the veteran and he was also an MP. 476 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Yeah, yeah. Wow. 477 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,560 That's. Crazy. 478 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,280 So I believe that. I believe his name is Dennis. 479 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,720 I have to just double check with management. 480 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600 Well actually when I go pay my rent the 1st of the month they 481 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,240 have a plaque with his name and I'll be able to that. 482 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,200 Would be interesting, but. That that really sounds 483 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,640 familiar. So it was like, it's also 484 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,840 interesting too, when you were holding the noose and you 485 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,720 brought up the captain. There's there's a couple 486 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,360 different burial grounds on Buck out. 487 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:45,600 One of them is a is a captain. His name is I believe it's John 488 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Buck Out. Oh, really? 489 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,760 Yeah. And he was like a folk. 490 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Yeah. And you can see fair. 491 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,920 Yeah. Wow. 492 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,800 Yeah. So it was just funny. 493 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,160 You literally you're literally holding the nurse of the noose 494 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,880 and you're literally just figuring out all these things 495 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,920 about buck out and I'm. Like that's amazing. 496 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,400 I'm like that's all just from old and that so when? 497 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,680 You play that back. It would be interesting because 498 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,040 he talked about being lost or about something to do with like 499 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040 being lost like either. You know, it's interesting 500 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,360 enough. I have not yet spoken to one of 501 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,640 the buck outs except for Lucinda. 502 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:26,120 And you said that. You said Lucille, said Lucille, 503 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,000 but you also said it could be Lucy. 504 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Lucille. Lucille, Yeah. 505 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,320 That I've spoken to her, but not at Buck Out Rd. 506 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,120 I cleaned graves and I cleaned the plots of the buck outs at a 507 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,160 local cemetery, not on Buck Out Road. 508 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,560 And 1 of it was most maybe in the past month and a half. 509 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,160 And one of them was Lucinda. All right. 510 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,880 Yeah. Which is interesting. 511 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,520 This is all right. So here's what's crazy to me, 512 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,080 Johnny. It's like Kathy's sitting here 513 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,920 talking to the spirits around you. 514 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,920 She's picking up on spirits from these other locations, but she's 515 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,280 picking them up here. Have you ever spoken to those 516 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,400 spirits from those locations? Well, at this location. 517 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,080 Well, all of the spirits that she was speaking to were from 518 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,440 this location until I handed her that noose. 519 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,480 That noose is new here and I haven't done a session yet with 520 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,920 the noose. I cut the noose down when I 521 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,800 found it. And that's a, that's a whole 522 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,240 real freaky thing that happens at at, at buck out. 523 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,000 So one of the things that happens is, is that a lot of 524 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,120 when I turn on the spirit box, these spirits are trying to get 525 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,920 me to kill myself constantly. One day I'm walking in the woods 526 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,960 and they're going on about it and I come across the noose just 527 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,120 hanging in there ready for me. And I said absolutely not. 528 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,640 And I sliced it down and I took it back with me. 529 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,480 Oh wow. So, so yeah, I mean this, 530 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,040 there's no, you know. Wild crazy, right? 531 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,960 That's crazy. That's crazy. 532 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,800 So I have. Heard. 533 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,800 Just so you know, when you feel that news, it feels really rough 534 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,000 and it feels really old. It's creepy. 535 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,840 It's a creepy one. It's a creepy one for sure, 536 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,800 yeah. Let's see, Lucille was before 537 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,320 the rope and that's not here. Yeah. 538 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,400 So that's, so that is, yes. So that's tactically Lucille 539 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560 Lucinda. Her full name is Lucinda. 540 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,160 That's the only one that does have a buck out connection. 541 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,080 But she's not buried at buck out. 542 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,800 I don't even think she lived that buck out room. 543 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,280 The buck out family is just big. All right. 544 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920 But what I'm saying is, but, but just for purposes of this and 545 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,160 our what we're trying to talk about here a lot is we're not 546 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,680 that's not a spirit that you've come across in this space in 547 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,840 your office. OK, so. 548 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,600 Let's not at. All that's all for this 549 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,120 installment of Splintered Spirits. 550 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720 The majority of the ghosts Kathy connected with are the same ones 551 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Johnny has contacted in this location. 552 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400 We still don't know whether or not that makes them independent 553 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400 apparitions or imprinted hauntings, but the fact that 554 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,080 Kathy feels the presence of spirits here and from other 555 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,280 locations Johnny frequents confirms that he is some sort of 556 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,080 conduit. We're going to bring Kathy to 557 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,360 one more location, the fireplace room, to see if she feels our 558 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,040 favorite curmudgeon, Edward, and where we'll be turning on The 559 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Voice box to get actual conversations going with the 560 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,920 spirits. Please like, follow and 561 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680 subscribe where you get your podcasts because you won't want 562 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,400 to miss that.