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I'm making a straight hardcore 
judgement call on this one Dad. 

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Dad was like, Dad was a straight
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Now out with the show. 
Why does it look like that? 

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It's weird. 
No, it's weird. 

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It's the spirits, Gary. 
The spirits are. 

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It's the. 
Damn spirits. 

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Well, listen, I, you know, I 
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while ago with you, that in this
genre we're dealing with this, 

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there's going to be a lot of 
strange issues with equipment, 

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more so than in, you know, other
things that you may have dealt 

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with in the past and you 
experienced it too, that time at

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Forever Hollywood. 
I know it's a real pain in the 

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ass. 
Oh yeah, tell me about it. 

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That is why when I am on 
location, I literally have four 

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different flashlights and six 
phones ready to go because you 

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never know when something's 
going to be zapped, drained, not

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work or act up. 
All right, well, we're getting 

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started here. 
Let's see who jumps in. 

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Who jumps in first? 
Let me get the let me get the, 

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let me get the chat up. 
I can't see it now it's like 

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some some reason like it's not 
refitting my browser isn't 

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fitting properly into the other.
What up Heather Atten first one 

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in. 
You might need to spank if the 

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browser. 
Well, it's all right. 

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Heather Aiden, first one in 
thanks for coming. 

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Thanks for joining us today on 
Splintered Spirits. 

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Yes, thank you. 
Thank you. 

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Hello. 
Hello. 

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A few people and chips. 
Cassie, you're the first one on 

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AIG. 
What is going on? 

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Is anybody watching this on 
Facebook? 

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Let's see. 
On the book of Faces, I don't 

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know. 
See, that's a good question. 

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Let me get some bodies here, 
people. 

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In mind. 
Give him a minute, man. 

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Yeah, What's been going on over 
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You know, the usual little work 
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of work here, a lot of work 
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You know, just it never stops. 
You know, either I'm working on 

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something or going through a 
replay. 

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That's life. 
That's what I've been doing all 

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day, back and forth. 
Making clips is like, you know, 

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we would, it would be great if 
we could make less clips if all 

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of you find people would tell at
least 100 of your closest 

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friends that we're on. 
Yeah. 

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Every day, say listen to this 
podcast. 

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Send it to 100 people. 
It's Foxy approved. 

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And we would just get it. 
What's up, Tammy? 

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What's up, notorious? 
Yeah, What's going on, 

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everybody? 
Welcome. 

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Welcome. 
Oh, you're a babysitting the 

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channel and nothing wrong with 
that. 

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Yeah, sit on it. 
Waiting for us to come on. 

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We try to faithfully be on at 
7:00 PM Eastern Standard Time 

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every time, though there might 
be an issue here and there. 

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You might have to wait a minute 
or two, but. 

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Sometimes we have technical 
issues with the lives this 

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happens. 
Yes, it does. 

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We. 
Got about 15 people coming in. 

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They're coming in slow. 
We had a fun. 

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We had a good week for a month. 
Good week, good month, good 

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week, good month here on 
Splintered guys. 

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OK welcome, welcome, Welcome to 
Splintered Spirits. 

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Welcome your host Gary. 
With me as always is John Santa 

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from Santa Paranormal, my 
nephew. 

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This is a family run business 
guys where we try to answer the 

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question what? 
Are spirits. 

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We had a good innit. 
We've had some. 

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We've dropped some great 
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got another one dropping to rap 
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paranormal power couple. 
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Tuesday. 
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Ghost Adventures, dropping on 
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And John and I just did an 
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hunters, Cheri de Benedetti. 
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Yep. 
You can't say that name without 

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sharing it, by the way. 
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You just can't say it or you 
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it's the only way I can do it. 
It's the only way to say it. 

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And that was a super fun 
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She's amazing with some 
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stories. 
Oh yeah, it was great. 

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It's really great. 
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some of these. 
I guess we can call them legacy,

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legacy ghosts, hunters. 
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I mean like sort of legacy 
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Yeah, yeah, they get, they get 
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ghost hunters. 
Like the TV ghost hunters? 

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Which are always under fire. 
Man, I've always. 

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Always under fire. 
Always under fire. 

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Even in when I'm live and 
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like they're always under fire 
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one day without talking shit 
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No, not in this space, it 
learned. 

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No, no, it's, it's insane. 
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Nah, Nah, Nah, hold on, time 
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Let's look at the bigger picture
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No, no, it's great. 
You know, it's great. 

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Bigger picture, I like the hat. 
Gary, where can you get that? 

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This hat Oh, where can you get 
this hat? 

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John? 
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Curious. 
I am. 

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I'm very curious and maybe I'll 
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You to this hat can be gotten. 
Got it. 

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Baby. 
At splinteredspirits.com. 

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Yep, just go there and go to our
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That's it. 
Or if you're watching on YouTube

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right now, just click the store 
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If I wore hats, if I wore hats, 
I'd wear that hat. 

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You like this one? 
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I don't. 
I don't know. 

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I think this is an original or 
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Or maybe I sell. 
I sell them sometimes they say 

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Splendid Spirits and I sell. 
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without the name, but I But 
they're there. 

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I got the old. 
I got this logo. 

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I've got our other logo. 
It's all this guy. 

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I will. 
This right here. 

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Right there. 
Yep. 

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The skull. 
You buy a hat if I sign it? 

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Yeah, man, I'll sign your hat. 
For sure. 

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Did someone say something? 
I'll buy a hat if Brian did. 

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Yeah, hey, I'll sign. 
Smarty, I was like, wait a 

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minute, hold on Gary, they were 
signing Mert. 

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Yeah, outside merch shit price 
goes up but. 

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Yeah, put that gold permanent 
marker on it. 

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Get that silver sharpie, baby. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Or if they ask for silver, you 
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But yeah, I will. 
But yeah, look, we saw all sorts

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of a lot and and by the way, at 
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where all your Santa Paranormal 
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Guess. 
So that's where you can get all 

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our stuff, dude. 
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We want to travel more, I want 
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That's what makes it happen. 
Yeah, do more things. 

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Do more things. 
So what else we got? 

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So we've got two big shows and 
it was been a good week. 

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And oh, I got some ghost 
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Do we got some submissions? 
Do we? 

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Yeah, we haven't. 
Let's yes, yes, let me read you 

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some of this. 
This one I'm one favorite one's 

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got evidence and 1 is just like 
a long scary story. 

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Oh nice. 
So it's what? 

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Are we starting with the 
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Are we starting? 
I'm going to start with the 

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story. 
Let's start. 

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OK, this is Aria. 
Aria submitted this. 

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I don't know if she's watching 
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read through your experiences 
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And John, you can tell me what 
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We'll go. 
Through. 

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Them she she dropped a bunch so 
says a lot so it says the first.

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What I'm sharing isn't a ghost 
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As much as my paranormal 
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mine aren't. 
A lot of it actually came from 

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my dad had his obsessions with 
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He wasn't diagnosed as autistic 
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and 60s was garbage, but there 
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definitely qualify as a hyper 
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He wasn't into your standard 
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He was fascinated with 
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we don't use anymore. 
He was a truck driver delivering

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food from the LA school district
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driving and driving. 
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could take the summer off every 
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Rent America to find his 
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My childhood included visiting 
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shops, and other deeply historic
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I'm sure the paranormal exposure
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our trips pushed me into 
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So Arya is claiming she has ESP 
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All right, OK, let's see what's 
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Here's a couple of experiences 
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road. 
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Gettysburg and I Gettysburg, and
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terrified to get out of the car.
I heard booms in the distance 

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that scared me to my core. 
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visitor center. 
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asked to leave. 
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aggressive and pretty much 
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visitor center. 
I huddled in the corner while my

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dad acted, for lack of a better 
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He pulled me into the visitor 
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Confederate uniform, I started 
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My mom, watching us act very 
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now. 
We left the area and both of us 

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began to act like ourselves 
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Neither of us knew why we acted 
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As a nine year old, having those
feelings of existential dread 

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with no logical explanation was 
not anything I had ever 

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experienced before. 
So anyways, that's how I 

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discovered that I am a medium 
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hereditary even though my dad 
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OK, this is the first story so 
let's talk about this for a 

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second. 
Have you ever felt sort of have 

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you ever gotten a feeling like 
that and not known why or this 

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is not, this is clearly not a 
vision. 

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This is an emotion essential 
dread. 

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This is an emotion. 
I've, I've, I've had, you know, 

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random feelings where I'm like, 
yo, what's going on? 

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Like, you know, what's 
happening? 

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And some of those are actually 
tied to actual events where, 

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like, you know, something is 
going on. 

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Yeah, it's weird. 
It's weird. 

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It's very cloudy though. 
It's a very cloudy, cloudy 

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feeling for me because I, I have
no abilities or, or whatnot, you

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know, so but like, it's almost 
like, huh, maybe I should text 

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so and so and see what's up. 
But you've always talked about 

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feeling of of feeling. 
Yeah, all the environmental 

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places and whatnot. 
Oh yeah, you can feel that from.

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So she's start this, she's 
talking about feeling an 

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emotion. 
I wonder how many people maybe 

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write off a bad emotion just 
they write it off but it maybe 

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it's experiencing the other 
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And let's not get confused here.
I know some people in the chat 

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might start talking about it, 
being empathetic and being an 

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empath and all that. 
That's really murky water. 

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Because you know, when it comes 
to empathy, that's, that's you 

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feeling something for somebody 
else, right? 

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You know what I mean? 
Like if you see, you say you see

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somebody hurt on the street and 
you feel bad for them, you're 

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being empathetic, right? 
There's a clear difference 

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between that and then all of a 
sudden feeling something out of 

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nowhere and you can't figure out
why you're feeling that way. 

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So imagine being a nine year old
and feeling that that horrible 

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dreaded feeling and having no 
idea why, you know? 

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It's like the ET syndrome, 
right? 

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Like he felt Elliott felt ETS 
feelings, not heard ETS 

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thoughts. 
All right, well, let's move on. 

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Let's lead to the next part of 
this, of Arya's journey into 

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this world here. 
So I'm not sure if it was the 

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same road trip or later, but we 
went to this campsite in an old 

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historic mine in West Virginia. 
At check in we were told of an 

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old trail that led through the 
woods and up to the mines. 

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We got our camp set up and time 
had slipped away from us, but we

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decided to see the mine. 
It was around sunset and as we 

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came up the hill to the mine 
entrance, a couple of re 

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enactors were walking down. 
They were grizzled with beards 

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and dirty overalls. 
One had a well worn shovel. 

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It was very convincing, but I 
spent enough time at 

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Williamsburg, Jamestown, 
Monticello, and other living 

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history sites to know most 
reenactors get super into it. 

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My parents said hellos in 
passing and they seemed a little

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surprised. 
My mom mentioned how 

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disappointed she was to miss 
their shift and asked what time 

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they ended. 
One guy was very serious and 

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kind of defensive. 
He kept walking a few paces down

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the hill, but the other man was 
friendly and gay for the time 

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they get off work. 
He pulled out an old pocket 

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watch and said it was getting 
late and the missus expected him

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home soon. 
He warned us not to be near the 

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mines after dark and to get on 
back as soon as possible. 

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The men walked down the path and
into the woods leading back to 

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camp. 
We spent a little time looking 

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around, but it was a closed 
mine, so not much to see. 

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We spent some time enjoying the 
woods, but as it got darker it 

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started to feel more ominous, 
like an unwelcome feeling. 

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So we hurried back to camp 
because the miner was probably 

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right. 
We're city folks, and there's 

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probably bears or something. 
The next day, check out. 

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My mom asked what time the 
reenactment takes place because 

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those guys were so well in 
character. 

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The clerk gave us a look of 
complete shock. 

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We don't do any reenactments 
here, it's just the trail to an 

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empty mine. 
Wow. 

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All right, so now Ari is saying,
and it's a little unclear, but 

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I'm assuming Ari is saying that 
not only did she see spirits and

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full on apparitions. 
The whole family. 

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As through the whole family did.
The whole family did. 

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That's something or. 
They were reenactors who just 

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don't work for the place and 
people like to dress up, freak 

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people out. 
Some people do like to dress up,

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that's for sure. 
Yeah. 

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But I don't know if you look at 
it logically, you know, if you'd

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like to dress up and you're not 
officially part of something, 

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you're not going to an, a, a, a 
random mine, you know what I 

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mean? 
You're going to go to like a 

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battlefield, right? 
And plus, I've never heard any 

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mine reenactors. 
I'm just throwing it. 

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Maybe they're maybe they exist. 
I've never heard ever someone 

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going, Hey Jimmy, let's let's 
dress up and go work in the 

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mines. 
Right. 

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We're we're mine. 
Yeah. 

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Like, why would it be a mine? 
Well, is it like, is it the same

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as like in Williamsburg where 
they have like, churning butter?

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They're all dressed up in 
reenactments, but they're making

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real butter and shit, You know 
what I mean? 

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But that's still. 
But that's still, that's a 

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whole, you know, that's a whole 
setup. 

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That's a whole village, you know
that a village that's all 

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planned, you know? 
Yeah, the old ladies dipping wax

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and making the candy. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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You know, right? 
All right, well, let's get this.

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All right. 
This is where it gets a little 

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interesting about Dad. 
Are you ready for that? 

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OK. 
I'm always ready. 

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OK all right so about my dad's 
antique collection. 

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Because most of his items are 
small he would put them into a 4

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by 4 frame display in 
chronological order. 

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Soon it became 34 by 4 displays 
and by the time he passed we had

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two C containers put underground
for climate control and filled 

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every wall with 30 plus frames. 
Now I'm not saying every item is

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haunted, but he has shit you 
would not believe. 

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I hooks for shoes. 
Grade school cards from the late

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1800s. 
A slave catcher's badge. 

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A bone fork dating back to the 
Revolutionary War. 

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Tin type photos of both the 
living and those ones where the 

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person is dead but made to look 
as if they were alive. 

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Yep. 
Ma'am, old train tickets, a 

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military sign for a segregated 
shower, top hat and gloves, a 

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KKK membership coin. 
And then for the record, he 

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wanted to get the real history 
of America, not just the 

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comfortable history. 
So he has a lot of questionable 

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antiques in his collection that 
didn't necessarily necessarily 

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reflect on him personally and. 
It's like, I would hope not. 

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I mean I. 
Would hope not. 

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I mean, it's like when you know 
Mark Fuhrman, they've 

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discovered, you know, the guy 
who arrested OJ and they 

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discovered he just had a whole 
slew of Nazi memorabilia, like 

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artifacts in. 
His house. 

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So that's the thing. 
That's the thing, right? 

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That that's the fine line. 
If you have a slew of artifacts 

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in your house from World War 2, 
for example, and they're all 

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Nazi, they're all Nazi like the 
majority is Nazi, there's a 

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problem there. 
There's a problem that 

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somethings not right, somethings
not right. 

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Now, if you have a whole 
collection of World War 2 items 

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from, you know, everyone that 
fought in World War 2, 

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completely different story. 
History is history. 

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Yeah, but but here's the problem
with this story because. 

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She's telling us that her dad No
go submit. 

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That's my. 
Way her right, her dad, she's 

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telling us her dad had a slew of
items, right? 

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A ton of difference. 
Does she list? 

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Does she list any of them? 
She doesn't. 

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I'm I'm this is my point. 
This is what I'm getting at. 

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She does say there's a 
containers right with 30 

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something frames of things. 
But the things that she mentions

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is the KKK coin a slave owner's 
badge, right? 

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Like. 
Crazy. 

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So it's like, hey man, maybe Dad
was that guy. 

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I'm just, I mean, look, I'm 
just, I'm sorry to say it, but. 

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Of course. 
All the items of all the items 

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you could share with me and John
that your dad owned. 

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So it could be kind of also 
enunciate the point of he had a 

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lot of questionable items in his
collection. 

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Who knows? 
They were probably, you know, or

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I'm going to give you the 
benefit of the doubt because 

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collecting historical items can 
be a tricky and iffy. 

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I get it dude. 
But here's the thing. 

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She made a point to e-mail this 
to us. 

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Yeah. 
Wouldn't you keep that shit? 

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Like why, Why say why say that? 
Why not say like, you know what?

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When I e-mail these guys, I'm 
going to leave out the KKK 

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membership coin. 
I'm just going to not tell them 

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about that stuff. 
And maybe trying to prove I 

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don't know, I don't know. 
And so I so hold on. 

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I think she's trying. 
I think she's trying to prove a 

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point to herself. 
She's trying to say, you know 

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what I mean? 
Like she's having some wishful 

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thinking. 
Like I have to say this out loud

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because if I do, then it'll 
prove it's not true. 

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But. 
Well, I can't make, I can't make

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a complete judgement call on it 
unless I see a catalog of the 

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items there. 
If there's like all sorts of 

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random shit, then I'd. 
Be like, what's up, Tessa? 

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Tessa Groff in the house, John, 
I'm making a straight, I'm 

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making a straight. 
Hardcore judgement call on this 

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one. 
Dad, Dad, Dad was a racist. 

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Dad was a straight racist. 
Let's go to Gettysburg. 

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I'm going to Confederates. 
I'm keeping this. 

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Oh, is this a KKK coin? 
Let me put it in one of my 

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frames. 
Yeah, I need more data. 

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You know what I dude. 
Fuck, Dad, how much daddy do you

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need? 
All right, so let let's keep 

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going with the. 
Rest of this stuff you know all.

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Right, let's see this story. 
OK, so it says. 

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As a child, I've heard my 
kitchen furniture moving on its 

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own in the middle of the night. 
My dog will be sitting 

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comfortably suddenly be 
attentive and track something 

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invisible traveling across the 
room. 

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Electronics would act funny. 
One time I had a ball on the 

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floor that rolled to me so I 
rolled it back but then it 

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rolled to me again. 
I realized I was playing ball 

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with a spirit. 
For context, my bedroom floor 

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where this happened was fully 
level and carpeted. 

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Let's you know. 
We hope so. 

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I tried to replicate the event 
but it didn't behave the same 

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way. 
I rolled it away from me and it 

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just stayed where it stopped. 
One morning I woke up to my dad 

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saying my name and telling me I 
needed to get up right now. 

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I was groggy and asked for five 
more minutes and it dawned on 

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me. 
My parents are going out of town

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and I was home alone. 
I looked at the clock and oh I 

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didn't. 
If I didn't haul ass I would 

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miss my ride and be late to 
school. 

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Whoever whatever mimicked my dad
actually saved my ass and helped

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me not be late for school. 
Wow. 

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All right. 
So that's really interesting 

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because yesterday we heard a 
story about something mimicking 

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somebody too, but it was a 
little different, little 

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different. 
That was that was that, that was

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a -1. 
This is a much more +1. 

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Right. 
Yeah. 

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And then she tells that story 
yesterday and it was like she 

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tried to make a total talk 
about, like, Stockholm syndrome,

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man. 
She made it, like, love with her

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captor. 
But we'll get to that one later,

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guys. 
All right, so things escalated 

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after my dad brought home. 
What? 

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OK, All right. 
Are you ready for the? 

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Yes, I'm ready. 
I'm ready laying. 

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Up things escalated after my dad
brought home one specific item 

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that he is absolute that is 
absolutely vile and creepy even 

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without being haunted. 
Oh shit. 

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He was always on the lookout for
antique stores. 

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This part is second hand 
experience which explains how he

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came to his own to own this 
item. 

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One day he was making his 
deliveries in LA and noticed a 

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new antique store. 
So he stopped in to see what 

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they had. 
And I'm assuming she's it's LA 

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not Louisiana. 
I guess it's it's here in LA. 

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But the man behind the counter 
took a look at my dad and 

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instead of the normal what are 
you looking for or let me know 

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if you need anything. 
He pretty aggressively said what

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do you want? 
My dad said he was just looking 

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around. 
The guy practically shouted 

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we're closed. 
My dad said he looked around and

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it dawned on him that he was 
surrounded by Third Reich 

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symbols and other obviously pro 
Nazi paraphernalia. 

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This was in the late 90s. 
He was an olive skinned. 

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He was an olive skinned with 
Sicilian heritage and honestly 

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not of the Aryan race. 
He realized he would be attacked

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just for innocently walking into
the wrong place and being 

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assumed to be a cop. 
He didn't know if there was 

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anyone else behind the curtains 
at the front desk, but he didn't

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want to find out. 
He grabbed something off the 

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shelf, paid for it, and got the 
F out of there. 

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He drove by a couple of days and
they were completely gone with 

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no trace as if they were never 
there to begin with. 

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Anyway. 
The item he grabbed off the 

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shelf was a shower valve. 
It was an old metal and needed 

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some cleaning. 
It had white porcelain handle 

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and turn the water on and off. 
After he cleared it up, he saw 

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something engraved on the metal 
part of the valve, so he traced 

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it into with a red pencil. 
It was a swastika. 

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I mean, listen, Dad, what's 
this? 

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Like. 
Sweetheart, your dad is clearly 

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a racist and A and a Nazi 
sympathizer. 

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I mean, and I'm right. 
So Fast forward to what happened

455
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,880
when he brought it home and 
moved rooms and I moved rooms 

456
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,000
and shared a wall. 
Hold on. 

457
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,680
Sorry, sorry. 
This is a big, big, big e-mail. 

458
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,160
Fast forward. 
When he brought home, I moved 

459
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,280
rooms and shared a wall with the
collected with the collection's 

460
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,000
displays. 
Occasionally I would hear a deep

461
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,160
growling. 
One time I saw red glowing eyes 

462
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,160
in the dark. 
Not human, a predator. 

463
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,720
Occasionally I would smell cigar
smoke. 

464
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,800
Always when I was in bed. 
If my dog was myth with me, she 

465
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,240
would be very tense and alert 
and alert. 

466
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:25,360
I mean John, this feels like Dad
is not the greatest guy and 

467
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:31,360
would bring home this real dark 
shit and with it came some 

468
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,520
fucking spirits man. 
And then she's sitting here 

469
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,360
saying like, no, but dad didn't 
know and he was just a 

470
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:40,040
collector. 
And this is like sounds straight

471
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:47,880
up trying to defend dad. 
I, I don't, I, I, I honestly 

472
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,360
don't. 
I don't know. 

473
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,800
I, I have no words. 
And it's it's rare that I have 

474
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,040
no words. 
How many times does dad have to 

475
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:02,200
bring home like a some racist or
Nazi paraphernalia until you 

476
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,120
realize that dad likes this 
shit, you know what I mean? 

477
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760
Well, all right, all right, so 
hold on. 

478
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,560
Let's look at all the facts here
real quick. 

479
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:20,000
He is possibly autistic, OK? 
And there is a chance that, 

480
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,920
well, especially with with 
autism, you know, social norms 

481
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,600
don't matter. 
Still, there is a chance if he 

482
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,000
was a collector that he was 
getting his hands on whatever 

483
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,280
fell into that realm. 
Unfortunately, an old faucet 

484
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,960
falls into that realm. 
The fact I, and granted he 

485
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,880
didn't know it had a swastika. 
And I'm not defending this man 

486
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,360
and I'm not defending, I'm not 
defending that What I'm, I'm 

487
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:49,840
looking at the story she's 
telling because she's telling 

488
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,080
the story. 
And I don't think she's trying 

489
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,080
to say or, you know, trying to 
say her father was a racist. 

490
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,880
I think she's trying to say that
certain objects of the darker 

491
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,840
variety came with attachments. 
That's what I said. 

492
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Listen, I walked into this bar. 
All these girls. 

493
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,960
All these girls were dancing 
naked and honey, I don't know 

494
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000
how this glitter got all over 
me. 

495
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,520
This is like, I didn't know what
it was when I walked in there 

496
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,680
and I just, you know, I had a 
drink. 

497
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,120
I had a drink or two, but I 
didn't know what was. 

498
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,320
That's that's a normal person. 
We're not talking about somebody

499
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,840
who's autistic, A neurodivergent
person. 

500
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,480
You can't put them in the same 
category. 

501
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,880
You're not going to put it. 
You're not going to test a fish 

502
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,720
how to climb a tree and then 
fail him when it doesn't do it, 

503
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,360
is what I'm getting at, right? 
It's different if he is 

504
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,160
autistic, which we can't prove. 
But he's not like Rain Man 

505
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,520
autistic dude. 
He's he. 

506
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,000
I mean, this is these are very 
clear, good versus evil, good 

507
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,280
versus evil stuff. 
So here's my thing. 

508
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,600
Like I'm like, I'm trying to 
picture him going into this this

509
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,680
because that's a pop up store. 
They used to happen all the time

510
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000
back in the day. 
And the trading Nazi 

511
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,240
memorabilia. 
That was a thing, Yeah. 

512
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,120
OK, that's OK, let's go with the
story. 

513
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,600
He looked around, saw it was all
Nazi paraphernalia, and didn't 

514
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,880
walk out. 
He made a. 

515
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,440
Purchase first. 
I know, I know. 

516
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,840
That's the crazy thing like did 
now did he make the purchase 

517
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,920
because he thought his life life
was in danger and he was like, 

518
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:27,720
oh, I better grab something. 
I don't know. 

519
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,200
I don't know. 
I don't it's. 

520
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,440
If you think your life's in 
danger, don't you just want run 

521
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,040
out? 
Or do you buy something first? 

522
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,840
Come on, dude. 
So. 

523
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,480
So now hold on. 
I'm gonna play devil's advocate 

524
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,360
here. 
The last thing you want to do is

525
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:45,880
walk into a store that has Nazi 
membaria Membaria Nazi artifacts

526
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,680
and buy anything that looks like
it turns a fucking faucet. 

527
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Yeah, yeah, dude, that is the 
last thing that that that is. 

528
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,880
I'm sorry, First off, if I 
walked in there, I'd go fuck 

529
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,880
this. 
I'd walk right out. 

530
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,200
But if I did look around and I 
was like, huh, I'm thinking of 

531
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,760
purchasing something to add to 
my World War 2 collection. 

532
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,000
The last thing that I would buy 
is a faucet with no markings 

533
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,840
whatsoever because you know 
exactly what that faucet was 

534
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,000
used for of. 
Course, dude, it's terrible, the

535
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,080
whole thing, my man. 
This girl's her. 

536
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,400
The poor impression of her. 
And again, she's choosing to 

537
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,600
tell us this story. 
You know why? 

538
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,200
Because I believe she knows deep
down inside she doesn't have to 

539
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480
share this information, right? 
There's. 

540
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Plenty of ghosts think her 
father was possessed. 

541
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,040
No, I think she thinks like part
of her think knows her dad was 

542
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,240
into this shit, like liked it 
and it's you don't like if 

543
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,320
you're telling us ghost, you're 
you're saying the two Dicks like

544
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,240
us ghost stories. 
There's plenty of ghosts here. 

545
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600
The miners is a great story and 
there's nothing racial about it.

546
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,880
Like there's plenty of ghosts. 
There's plenty of ghost stories 

547
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,200
here that don't have to do with 
Nazis or slave owners. 

548
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,760
But she's choosing to tell us 
this and then defend her own 

549
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,040
father. 
What is it? 

550
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640
What is the chat tag? 
They say anything about it. 

551
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,240
They're not saying anything, is 
it? 

552
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Well, it's. 
They're probably jaws are 

553
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,680
probably on the ground. 
I know it's like, right? 

554
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,680
Like dad was into it, Dad was 
into it. 

555
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,520
It's. 
A lot of information and my. 

556
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,200
It's a lot of I'm not even done 
with this e-mail. 

557
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,320
Bro I think you might need to 
be. 

558
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,080
I mean, we're not even done, I'm
afraid to continue to be honest 

559
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,880
with you. 
Should I go on? 

560
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,280
Yeah, we're dude, we already 
opted. 

561
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,600
We might as well swim for a bit,
you know? 

562
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920
To paint a picture, my bed was 
pushed up against the wall. 

563
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,680
My feet faced the door which was
directly across from my parents 

564
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,200
room where the display cases 
were. 

565
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,080
Directly across from my bed was 
my closet, which had sliding 

566
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,880
mirror doors. 
One night I woke up to a man in 

567
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,400
my room. 
I couldn't see him in the 

568
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,120
mirror. 
I tried to tell myself I was 

569
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560
dreaming. 
My parents always had this weird

570
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,240
belief that if you encounter a 
spirit to shake hands with it. 

571
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,840
Wait. 
And my parents always had this 

572
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040
weird belief that if you 
encounter a spirit to shake 

573
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,640
hands with it. 
I don't know. 

574
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
I don't know. 
They're religious nuts, so they 

575
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
have a lot of weird supernatural
beliefs. 

576
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,440
I'm half awake. 
I put my hand out to shake his 

577
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280
hand. 
I saw him extend his hand and it

578
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,080
went right through my hand and 
he disappeared. 

579
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,560
I was fully awake now. 
My hand felt tingly, like it had

580
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,680
fallen asleep and not to that 
level kind of hard to describe. 

581
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,200
My nerves were tingly but not 
numb. 

582
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880
I screamed for my parents. 
My parents. 

583
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,520
They said a prayer and I slept 
in their bedroom that night. 

584
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
A few weeks or months later, I 
woke up in the middle of the 

585
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,400
night to the strong feeling that
I was being watched from the 

586
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640
doorway. 
At the time I was a busty blonde

587
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,960
14 year old. 
I don't know why I should just 

588
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,560
throw that detail in there. 
So not like a little kid having 

589
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,800
nightmares. 
I was very, very scared. 

590
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,040
But I tried to tell myself that 
I was just being a baby and to 

591
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,640
listen to music to feel better. 
I've. 

592
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,280
Started to say that that that 
her her her wisdom of her age 

593
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680
has to do with her breast size. 
I do. 

594
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,160
I don't know what, I don't know 
what's going on in this. 

595
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,120
This is like for us, like I, I 
had started, I had started 

596
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,000
listening to the Spice World 
disc that was in my Walkman 

597
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,680
next. 
To me, what you really really 

598
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,440
want. 
Right. 

599
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Trying to push the feelings 
away, I turned towards the wall 

600
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040
with my back exposed. 
My blanket tugged and sank in 

601
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,360
behind my knees. 
I tugged it back, hoping it was 

602
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,920
my dog. 
I still had that feeling of 

603
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,480
dread. 
There's only so much spice up 

604
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,920
your life can do to calm the 
nurse. 

605
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,800
Did you got that in or did you 
see that? 

606
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:44,040
No dude, this is verbatim. 
This is awesome. 

607
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,680
Then I felt what I can only 
describe as an ice cold ball 

608
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,080
running down my neck, tracing my
shoulder, down my spine. 

609
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,240
I kept trying to tell myself it 
wasn't real. 

610
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Then the icy feeling made its 
way to the top of my underwear 

611
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,920
and I felt my clothing actually 
move away from my body. 

612
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,120
That was it, I lost my shit. 
I started shouting you have no 

613
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,920
power here and screaming for my 
parents. 

614
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,560
That was the last night I spent 
in my room. 

615
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,000
It was also the last night I 
spent in my bed. 

616
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,080
The last empty room in the house
was our library room, which had 

617
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,680
a couch on it. 
A couch in it. 

618
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,280
I refused to sleep anywhere that
exposed my back. 

619
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,560
I couldn't. 
I actually couldn't sleep with 

620
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,280
my back to the open end of the 
bed for a little over 15 years 

621
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,920
from that night. 
We shit. 

622
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,440
My parents divorced not long 
after, probably because she 

623
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,960
realized dad was a Nazi and when
I was 17 I moved in with my She 

624
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,400
moved in with her dad in his new
house. 

625
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,560
For a few months mystery 
footprints would show up on the 

626
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,520
solid colored tile. 
I even did the flower on the 

627
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,040
floor test and caught footprints
that were smaller than either of

628
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,600
our feet. 
Have you ever done the flower on

629
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,720
the floor test? 
No. 

630
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,320
Even now in his seat container, 
even now in his sea container 

631
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,160
museum, in his ranch in 
California's high desert, you 

632
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,880
walk in and it feels heavy as a 
medium. 

633
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,360
There are multiple spirits 
present. 

634
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,640
There's a lot of space, but it 
feels filled. 

635
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,640
I can't be in there for very 
long because the feelings shift 

636
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,760
and are overwhelming. 
My dad would spend long hours 

637
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,080
sitting in his museum. 
I told him I didn't think that 

638
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,680
was safe. 
It could be completely 

639
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600
unrelated, but he died from a 
silent heart attack, which was 

640
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,560
odd because he didn't have any 
history of cardiac problems and 

641
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,480
had done blood work pretty 
recently before his death. 

642
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Now that these now that he's 
passed, my stepmom doesn't know 

643
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,560
what to do with them. 
It belongs in a museum, but it 

644
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,280
also isn't. 
But it's also a museum in its 

645
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,520
own right. 
Dude, nobody wants that Nazi 

646
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,440
shit to just get rid of it. 
Like get fucking. 

647
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,320
Ready. 
No, no, donate that. 

648
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,120
Donate that to a museum. 
Donate everything, everything 

649
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,400
all at once, all to a museum. 
Let the museum sort it out if 

650
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,120
you change. 
Your name before you do just. 

651
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,680
Donate, don't donate it. 
Just donate it all and let them 

652
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,440
sort it out. 
If it's, for example, if it's a,

653
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,800
if it's a Nazi item that there's
hundreds of thousands of them, 

654
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,360
it'll get destroyed. 
And rightfully so, right? 

655
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,239
If it's something that belongs 
in a museum, it'll get placed 

656
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,000
where it should go. 
But, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

657
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,320
That I would. 
I would literally take all that 

658
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,920
and just donate it to a museum. 
Change your name first. 

659
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,679
Walk away from the entire thing.
And walk away. 

660
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,840
I know I've already given you a 
friggin chapter book and 

661
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,600
probably tested your text limit,
but I do have more experiences. 

662
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,239
This is when I was 1920. 
My mom was remarried in Virginia

663
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,080
City. 
This was before Ghost Adventures

664
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,400
or any of those other shows had 
investigated there. 

665
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,480
So I walked into the town with 
no clue what I was about to 

666
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,000
experience. 
I'm happy to share more if you 

667
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,920
like. 
Aria, I think you got to go talk

668
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,920
to somebody not about, I mean 
just about really getting to 

669
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,440
coming to grips with who dad 
really was. 

670
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,800
Now as far as your what you're 
experiencing, I mean, that's 

671
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,120
pretty wild stuff. 
Yeah, and I again donate that 

672
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,000
collection. 
Just donate to a museum. 

673
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,360
Let them sort it out. 
Change your name or I dare you 

674
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,560
to drop it off at Goodwill. 
Oh dude, that would that would 

675
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,640
be insane. 
Imagine all that at Goodwill. 

676
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,960
Well, the, the, the faucet 
handle, you can scrap, you know,

677
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120
you can just scrap that, you 
know, throw it in a metal pile, 

678
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,640
let it get melted down like it 
deserves. 

679
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,680
Well, I mean, who knows? 
You know, there might be, you 

680
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,400
know, something that can 
complete a collection in a 

681
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,440
museum somewhere. 
Because let's be real people, 

682
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,760
and this is my personal belief 
on this subject. 

683
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,280
When it comes to history, 
history should be preserved so 

684
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,240
we learn from it and we never 
repeat the same mistakes. 

685
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,720
We can't do that by destroying 
stuff, you know that is, that's 

686
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,400
just a fact, You know, it's 
history. 

687
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,840
However, however, the shower 
knob with the swastika that 

688
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,680
could get that could get melted 
down. 

689
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,520
It's a. 
It's a crazy we know what. 

690
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Happens. 
We don't need a reminder of it, 

691
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,600
that is aspects. 
That was quite the. 

692
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,720
Ghost story. 
I don't know if that was a 

693
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,120
ghost. 
The only part of the ghost story

694
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,800
of that was the mind story. 
That was wild. 

695
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,440
Everything else sounded like a 
plea for help. 

696
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,960
I mean, listen dude, here on 
Splintered Spirits, we welcome, 

697
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,520
we welcome your experiences. 
We will go through them at 

698
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,280
times. 
We will judge you and mock you 

699
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,200
for it. 
So just. 

700
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,240
You know, I'm so hard not to. 
I'm trying, yeah, I'm trying not

701
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,800
to, but let's. 
We went though you went 400. 

702
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,280
I'm. 
Straight off judging dad. 

703
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Dad is into. 
It it's like, maybe there's a 

704
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,920
reason. 
To getting an accident, listen 

705
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,400
to here's the thing, getting 
something accidentally once. 

706
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,360
But then she's listing items and
of the more than half of them 

707
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,400
are very controversial items. 
The KKK coin, the slave owner, 

708
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,760
this the but you know what I'm 
saying? 

709
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,320
Segregation signs like what? 
Why, Why what? 

710
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Oh, is this a Nazi store? 
I don't know why I'm in here. 

711
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,920
I better get out of here quick, 
but not before I buy something. 

712
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,800
What were we talking about? 
Don't we talking about that? 

713
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,680
Was interesting. 
So I'll tell you a quick, quick 

714
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,520
crazy story. 
When I used to do my eBay store 

715
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,640
and I used to go through 
people's bulk garbage because, 

716
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,800
you know, one man's trash, 
another man's treasure, right? 

717
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,480
And I see, you know, selling on 
my eBay store, I came across a 

718
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,920
couple boxes of historical 
artifacts, a lot of cool stuff 

719
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,000
in there. 
You know what was in there? 

720
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,520
A swastika, an arm band. 
And I went, and I went, wow, 

721
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,880
look at this. 
I had a fire pit that night. 

722
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,440
You know where that armband 
went? 

723
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Right into the flames. 
Throw it out. 

724
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,720
I mean, it's gross. 
Right into the flames. 

725
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,120
Everything else I kept because 
it was all other. 

726
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,160
It was, you could tell it was 
someone's grandfather that 

727
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,400
served and they took artifacts 
back and whatnot. 

728
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,320
Some of it was really cool, but 
like the armband, I'm like, 

729
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,560
yeah, the other stuff was cool. 
The other stuff I ended up 

730
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,240
selling. 
The other stuff went went quick 

731
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,680
too, is all. 
There's collectors for that. 

732
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,520
That theater of war is a huge 
mark for. 

733
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Sure, but dad? 
Her daddy's dark. 

734
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Her dad is dark. 
Probably some dark stuff. 

735
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,520
I would love to. 
Let me tell you something. 

736
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,200
Not love to meet him, but I'd 
love to. 

737
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,280
He's dead. 
No, he's dead, right? 

738
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,440
Maybe I'll. 
Maybe I'll talk to him. 

739
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Now. 
I'm just playing that, you know,

740
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,800
just to see what he was like as 
a person, to see how autistic he

741
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,600
really was, right? 
Because then if he's like super 

742
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,960
autistic, then it's like, OK, 
that explains it all, but I'm 

743
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,440
not going to get into it. 
Oh 100% dude. 

744
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,760
I don't know. 
I have a buddy of. 

745
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Mine you're, you're, you're 
connecting. 

746
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:53,680
You're connecting autism to, you
know, like psychotic. 

747
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,680
You know what I mean? 
Like that's not. 

748
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Well, I mean, they psychotics a 
little different. 

749
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960
It wasn't like he was going 
around hurting people. 

750
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,800
Well, but he sort of loved he. 
Was going around collecting. 

751
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,280
You don't know if any puppies 
died or in his vicinity or what,

752
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,200
or have you. 
I have no idea. 

753
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,480
Listen, I'm judging. 
All I know is, you know. 

754
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,200
Yeah. 
Listen, all I know is that that 

755
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,240
e-mail was wild. 
Trade stuff. 

756
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,160
And I did. 
I didn't not enjoy it. 

757
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,600
I actually I love. 
Listen, I thank you for sharing,

758
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,400
you know? 
Yeah. 

759
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,360
Thank you. 
I thank you for sharing. 

760
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,640
I think it's, I think, though, I
think deep down and deep down 

761
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,000
inside. 
Deep down inside, Yeah, man. 

762
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,880
Deep down inside, though, you 
know, Arya, that dad was into 

763
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,120
it. 
He wasn't just like he was into 

764
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,160
it, man. 
I think. 

765
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,640
I think you know that. 
I think the audience knows that.

766
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,480
And that's what went down. 
All right, we've got another 

767
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,680
one. 
This one's a little lighter and 

768
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,640
I think a little easier. 
This one comes with evidence, 

769
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,640
right? 
This is a little evidence, but I

770
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,960
looked at it. 
I'm just going to show it 

771
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,640
because I don't want people to 
think we ignore them. 

772
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Let's take a look here guys. 
Don't think that's a problem. 

773
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,640
That we don't ignore it. 
Yeah, I don't think that's a 

774
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,400
problem, Gary. 
We should call, we should call 

775
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,960
them Paranormal roasting hour. 
Oh my God, so. 

776
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,880
Funny. 
Send an e-mail, get roasted by 

777
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,200
us. 
Oh man. 

778
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,880
See how I can get this thing 
going here? 

779
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,480
Why isn't it playing are? 
You going to play the evidence 

780
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,440
first? 
I'm going to play it, yeah, but 

781
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,760
it's not playing. 
I don't know why. 

782
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,360
The damn spirits, you know they 
be acting up. 

783
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:48,000
Blame the spirits. 
Stop playing. 

784
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,640
We might not be able to show 
them. 

785
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,280
Oh no, Some some something's 
wrong with this video, guys it. 

786
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,600
Did a little something. 
It's corrupted. 

787
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,560
I'll try for next time. 
We'll talk about it next time, 

788
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,560
OK? 
And you know what? 

789
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,520
And it's for the best. 
I don't think we can top, we can

790
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,400
topple. 
We just experienced it together 

791
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,400
as people. 
Yeah, yeah, that was that was 

792
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,160
what's called. 
You know what it reminds me of? 

793
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:17,280
Oh man, what was that episode of
Curb Your Enthusiasm with the 

794
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,880
with the dog? 
They named the dog Adolf the 

795
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,960
German Shepherd. 
Dude, it's like, you know? 

796
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,960
There was a great episode. 
Did you watch Succession? 

797
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,760
No. 
Succession is brilliant and 

798
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,000
there was another was a great 
episode of that too, where he's 

799
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,720
interviewing a guy and he's 
like, so you know, I it's kind 

800
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,760
of my attention. 
You put a post up about it like 

801
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,720
Mein Kampf and he goes, look, I 
just really love World War Two. 

802
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,400
I've, you know, and I've read it
a few times. 

803
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,040
He's like a few times. 
It's like, you know, there were 

804
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,480
things you didn't. 
He's interviewing a guy. 

805
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,600
He's like, there's, there's 
things you didn't get from the. 

806
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,040
First time reading. 
It from the first time reading 

807
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,040
it and then he starts talking. 
He's like, yeah, you know, and 

808
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,680
it's like, you know, the like we
these these countries lost a lot

809
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,200
of there's a lot of lives lost 
on on this side. 

810
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,520
He goes in other lives, right? 
Like it was, it's a it's a I'm, 

811
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,560
I'm blowing it. 
But if you look up it, there was

812
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,360
a meme that was going around and
and he's interviewing this guy 

813
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,360
this this promote or somebody 
get promoted. 

814
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,120
She's like, wait a minute. 
If he's clearly like a Nazi and 

815
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,000
it's just hiding the facts. 
Dude, that's one of the most 

816
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,040
uncomfortable things to deal 
with, especially in the 

817
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,320
paranormal. 
Let's bring it back to the 

818
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,680
paranormal, right when I am on 
location and, and now I don't 

819
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,160
even highlight it right now. 
I don't even what do you mean 

820
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,200
I'm live? 
Let's so let's say I'm live and 

821
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,400
then all of a sudden the spirit 
will drop a racial slur. 

822
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,440
Sure, right. 
I, I now I won't even bring it 

823
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,000
up. 
Sometimes people in the chat get

824
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,400
it and they're like, oh, shoot, 
what did that spirit just say? 

825
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,440
And I completely ignore it, 
ignore what they're saying in 

826
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,880
the chat about what they just 
heard. 

827
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,200
And I don't even respond. 
There are unfortunate times when

828
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,320
the Spirit won't stop and then 
it has to be addressed, right? 

829
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,680
So, you know, if I'm ever guys, 
if I'm ever live, and then all 

830
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,560
of a sudden that nowhere you 
hear me say, hey, you know, this

831
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,080
is 2026. 
We don't talk about that. 

832
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,120
You know, we don't talk. 
You know, we don't, we don't 

833
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,280
believe in that. 
That's not who we are as a 

834
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,520
people, blah, blah, blah, blah, 
blah. 

835
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,640
You guys know why? 
And most of you probably hear 

836
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,800
what the Spirit's saying. 
Does it stop happening after you

837
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,800
give an announcement like that? 
Sometimes. 

838
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,160
Sometimes sometimes you got to 
look at just like people, right?

839
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,560
I mean, I'm listen, we've all 
been around people that all the 

840
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,200
sudden start saying very 
uncomfortable stuff when it has 

841
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:49,000
to do with race and it's just 
like sold out like like, well, 

842
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,480
what are you talking about right
now? 

843
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,640
Stop. 
I don't want to hear it. 

844
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,000
Sometimes they continue or they 
bring it back to it. 

845
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Other times they stop 
completely. 

846
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,280
Most of the time at that point, 
I'm already you. 

847
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,840
Know right, Yeah, I'm. 
Already. 

848
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,240
It's already getting the hell 
out of the situation. 

849
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,800
So crazy. 
It's crazy, you know, that was a

850
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,320
good one, man. 
I'm like a little a little blown

851
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,640
away by that whole thing. 
Yeah. 

852
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,760
That's someone that's someone 
confessing to us like we're 

853
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,280
we're just the somebody she 
wants to let us know about. 

854
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,840
You know, how do I tell this 
story? 

855
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,160
In a way was my, maybe my. 
I'm lucky. 

856
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,400
I live in the area I lived in. 
I live in man. 

857
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,760
Because yeah, listen, it, it 
wasn't it. 

858
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,560
I mean, it was a little better 
back in the day for people if 

859
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,280
you were different here, right? 
It was a little better, you 

860
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,280
know? 
That town, that town ain't 

861
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,400
great. 
Little bit, no, but no, no, no, 

862
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,160
I'm not talking about, I'm 
talking about back in the 1617 

863
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,200
and 1800s, right? 
Like we got, we had Stony Hill, 

864
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,960
which was the first African, 
African American settlement. 

865
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,800
You know, we had, we have the 
Brown Cemetery, which is one of 

866
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,000
the only cemeteries where, you 
know, both the enslaved, post 

867
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,160
enslaved and you know, non 
slaved are buried together. 

868
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,760
Those are things you don't find 
in other places throughout the 

869
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,160
country. 
Right, so Christina, Christina, 

870
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,680
don't come into the chat and 
just thank John. 

871
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,440
You better thank me too. 
I see you. 

872
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:22,440
I need love. 
You better give love to both. 

873
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,680
I need love. 
Christina Franklin, I see you. 

874
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,440
What do you expect on a country 
that was built on? 

875
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,120
I know that, you know. 
On all that. 

876
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,240
But some people loved it, like 
Aria's dad. 

877
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,800
Yeah, yeah, shit. 
But it's, you know, this getting

878
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,680
it's, you know, here's another 
thing about that story, right? 

879
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,320
She, she got touched. 
And now we've got, you know, you

880
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,840
had, if everybody would listen 
to the Tessa Groff episode, 

881
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120
right? 
She she had an experience in her

882
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:58,280
bedroom when she was younger. 
Sherri de Benedetti. 

883
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,920
Sherri had an experience where 
she got held down. 

884
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,520
Yup, we get into all that in 
that episode. 

885
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:10,120
And it's, it seems, I mean, 
these young girls are not immune

886
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,240
to the spirits, which is very. 
Well. 

887
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Troubling. 
OK, very troubling. 

888
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,240
She said she was 14. 
This girl was, Yeah. 

889
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,960
This girl wasn't happened to 
her. 

890
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,040
She was 14. 
Well, I mean, dude, you go back 

891
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,360
in history, guess what, 14 years
old? 

892
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,040
They're already getting married 
and having kids and making, you 

893
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,440
know what I'm saying? 
Like sure. 

894
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,880
If that was this dude, this also
speaks to what a lot of people 

895
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,160
who investigate or study 
poltergeist activity right in. 

896
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,280
It's teen girls predominantly. 
Yeah. 

897
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:48,880
Right. 
I mean, that's like I think 

898
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,840
parapsychologist would point 
out. 

899
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,960
That whole thing, they're the 
poltergeist Asian, correct? 

900
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,560
Well, yes, correct, that's what 
it right. 

901
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,360
A poltergeist is not yes, a 
poltergeist. 

902
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,080
They, they are the ones who are 
manifesting this thing that 

903
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,440
happens a lot in teen into, into
young girls. 

904
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,760
And we're hearing these stories 
from women when they were 

905
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,080
younger when this when this 
happened. 

906
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,040
I don't think Sherri was a 
teenager in that story. 

907
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,640
I think she was already older 
but. 

908
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,320
I'm, I think she was in her 20s.
I think she was an early, yeah. 

909
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:24,080
But Tessa was old, was young, 
and then her story. 

910
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Yep, Yep. 
It's an interesting, it's an 

911
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,280
interesting dynamic though, 
right? 

912
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,760
That it happens and you know, 
the poltergeist agent thing 

913
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,320
That's you know, what is that 
some sort of consciousness 

914
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,400
manifesting that I haven't, we 
haven't come across a lot of 

915
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,680
those. 
It's a good thing we got to look

916
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:42,360
into more of that. 
Well, you know what's really 

917
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,840
crazy, and I've said this before
on live and I think a lot of 

918
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,440
people's draw and drop when I 
say it. 

919
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,760
I got the data right, the data 
from all the documentation. 

920
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,360
OK, so either the way it looks 
to me is either spirits or our 

921
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:03,840
memory or we are subconsciously 
creating these things. 

922
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,720
Well, yes dude, correct all. 
That's another I've said. 

923
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,160
And I hate and I and I and 
again, the evidence points 

924
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,040
towards both. 
It's either or or maybe it is a 

925
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,200
sick mash up of both. 
We don't know. 

926
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,440
We don't know. 
It could be a sick match up of 

927
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,320
both. 
So, so for the people that are 

928
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,320
confused on that, what I mean 
is, for example, that's a mash 

929
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,360
up of both. 
Let's take Joe for example. 

930
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,720
Random spirit Joe, right? 
You, Gary, you go to talk to Joe

931
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,720
and you have a pleasant 
conversation. 

932
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,320
Joe seems like he's one way with
you. 

933
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,840
And then I go and I speak to 
Joe, and Joe is a completely 

934
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,480
another way with me. 
We would describe it as, oh, Joe

935
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,480
really likes Gary, but doesn't 
like John. 

936
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,120
What if that's not the case? 
What if there's Joe and then it 

937
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:03,920
is me at that particular moment 
in time affecting Joe, or you at

938
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,240
that particular moment in time 
affecting Joe? 

939
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,960
Well, and also I think that 
another way to say, John, is, 

940
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,720
you know, two things can be true
at the same time. 100%. 

941
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,880
Which very is a concept many 
people just don't understand 

942
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,800
these days when we're so binary 
about everything. 

943
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,800
It's two things can be true. 
They could be. 

944
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,360
There could be ghosts and they 
could be consciousness bringing 

945
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,600
that up, and maybe it is the 
consciousness that connects the 

946
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,960
two things. 
Her father could have been 

947
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,080
autistic. 
And Nancy racist he got him in a

948
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:42,840
racist and autistic dude. 
Her dad is so racist. 

949
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,600
I'd love to meet her father. 
You. 

950
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,440
Can't. 
Not because of that, because 

951
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,440
just to see how he was as a 
person, you know what I mean? 

952
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,040
I find people interesting and 
just just just to see him 

953
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,720
operate for an hour, you know, 
as a human being, you know, just

954
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:02,400
be like, OK, I've seen you. 
I've seen your type before. 

955
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,640
One second, dude. 
I know another guy who some 

956
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:12,240
people would say is I'm mentally
challenged in ways that collects

957
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,280
things. 
And I remember one time, you 

958
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,920
know, it was a really funny 
story. 

959
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,680
I had a Halloween party, right? 
He goes, hey, he goes, what 

960
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,440
should I go? 
As I said, dude, I said, you got

961
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,560
so many uniforms, told me so 
many awesome World War 2 

962
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,120
uniforms. 
I'm dressed up as a soldier, 

963
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,080
right again. 
He's like, I'd be free, I'll do 

964
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,960
it, I'll do it. 
I'll come in the nines and I'm 

965
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,840
like, I perfect. 
So this was at a Polish club. 

966
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,960
I rented out a Polish club. 
The workers at the Polish club 

967
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,920
were all Polish and they were 
all older. 

968
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,120
OK, that's a key part of this 
story. 

969
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,920
I know where this is going, 
dude. 

970
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,240
He's a key part of this story, 
right? 

971
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,680
I see this. 
I read you. 

972
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,840
I read you like a porno mag. 
I know where this is going. 

973
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,600
He walks in in a full Admiral, 
Nazi Admiral uniform and, and, 

974
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,960
and the bartender just looks at 
me with sadness and I turned, I 

975
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,320
looked at him and I said, dude, 
go home and change. 

976
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,240
He's like, why not? 
He goes not this uniform. 

977
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:16,040
And I said no, not that one. 
And then he comes back as 

978
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,080
whatever the British beret, 
whatever, whenever that was. 

979
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:23,720
He comes in as that. 
And I'm like, dude. 

980
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,920
Dude, when your instinct is to 
come in you. 

981
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,280
Didn't look at the invitation. 
Yeah, that's weird. 

982
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,440
But but granted, people that 
know this man are like, Oh yeah,

983
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,320
he's mad slow dude. 
Like what are you? 

984
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,400
You know, right? 
If he's, it sounds like he's 

985
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,960
touched, yes. 
Oh 100% great dude, don't get me

986
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,640
wrong, great guy, but 100%. 
But still it's like. 

987
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,960
I feel like Ari is dead. 
I. 

988
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Didn't get that. 
You got to get that. 

989
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,360
Siri. 
Siri, I didn't get that. 

990
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,080
Who's touched? 
Siri, I know Siri's been like 

991
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,720
thinking I'm talking to her all 
the time lately. 

992
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,720
Dude, I had to turn, I had to 
turn my Siri off because I'd be,

993
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,760
I'd be like Spirit, what's your 
name? 

994
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,320
And all of a sudden Siri would 
be like, I'm sorry, I didn't get

995
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,800
that, but I'd be like, Siri, I'm
not talking to you. 

996
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,640
You know, it's pretty funny. 
Anybody remembers that back last

997
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,240
year? 
Oh my God. 

998
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,760
Anyway, that was a great one. 
Sorry, look, I know I'm teasing 

999
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,040
you about your dad, and I mean 
it, but I do thank you for 

1000
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,600
sharing that e-mail and that 
story. 

1001
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,320
That was a great e-mail and that
mind story was awesome. 

1002
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,040
And it was good. 
It's a lot of good stuff. 

1003
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,800
And that happened. 
To you when you were a teenager,

1004
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,240
that stuff. 
Yeah, and I'm, I'm sorry about 

1005
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,040
having a dad who was really into
that weird shit. 

1006
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,800
But you know, it makes for good.
It makes for good. 

1007
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,080
You just made for a great 
episode of. 

1008
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,680
Donate it to a museum. 
Donate it to a museum or set it 

1009
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,120
all on fire. 
Either way, don't. 

1010
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,240
Send it to me please. 
Don't send it. 

1011
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:57,720
Don't send it. 
To me. 

1012
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,240
Take your name off it too if you
donate it. 

1013
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,520
All right guys, what we got 
next? 

1014
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,920
We got Nick Groff, the one and 
only coming up on Tuesday. 

1015
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,440
Great story. 
And he gets into Nick. 

1016
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,160
Look, Nick's told this story 
about what happened on Ghost 

1017
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,160
Adventures and what's really 
great about it is, I mean, I 

1018
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:22,800
don't misunderstand what I'm 
saying about great, but it's 

1019
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,800
sort of this idea of God, even 
the closest of friends just fall

1020
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,280
out, right? 
Bands break up. 

1021
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,760
And it really is the story of 
like a band breaking up, in my 

1022
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,640
opinion. 
It's just the little things. 

1023
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,240
The little things just pile on 
and the and then it becomes that

1024
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:46,320
annoyance just is everything is 
super annoying because you just 

1025
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,000
start needling and needling and 
needling and then it's enough is

1026
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,440
enough. 
And he's he's he's very grounded

1027
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,440
about the whole thing. 
I mean, look, it's got to be 

1028
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:02,280
obviously it's very bittersweet.
It's a monster hit show. 

1029
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,640
He created it and now it's like 
he's got it. 

1030
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,480
You know how that falls apart 
and this other guy gets it, gets

1031
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,840
all the, you know, I, I get it, 
I get all that. 

1032
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,200
But look, he's doing really 
well. 

1033
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,720
He and Tessa, he's got a great 
wife. 

1034
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:19,000
He's got a great show. 
He's got a movie coming out 

1035
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,520
guys. 
The devil's mark. 

1036
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,240
By the way, if you're not 
following Nick, you got, or 

1037
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:28,280
Tessa, be sure to go and follow 
them on Facebook. 

1038
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,480
He's got a big, he's got a brand
new documentary coming out. 

1039
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,040
And look, you know the guy makes
good documentaries because he 

1040
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,840
started a movement with his one 
of his last ones which was Ghost

1041
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,800
Adventures. 
I, I love, I love telling this 

1042
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,000
story. 
When we, when, when Nick gets 

1043
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,160
brought up, when Gary first told
me that, you know, Nick was 

1044
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,880
going to come on, I'm like, oh, 
yeah, that I think I've seen 

1045
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,800
that dude. 
I think it was on that 

1046
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,920
Paranormal State show. 
And then Gary's like, no, dude, 

1047
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,920
he's the guy that started Ghost 
Adventures. 

1048
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,440
And I'm like, well, I, I really 
never really was. 

1049
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,640
A paranormal lockdown 
paranormal. 

1050
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:03,800
Lockdown. 
Lockdown, yes. 

1051
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,320
No, but he did. 
Didn't he do the other one too? 

1052
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,720
Didn't he do paranormal? 
No paranormal state? 

1053
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,200
Something else? 
It's something else. 

1054
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,120
It's all these. 
That was I think Chip, Chip 

1055
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,560
Coffee was Paranormal State. 
I believe that was with those. 

1056
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,360
I think Paranormal State might 
have been the college guys with 

1057
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,200
chip coffee, right? 
Like it was like a university. 

1058
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,920
Like they were kid. 
They were not kids. 

1059
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,360
All these paranormal shows. 
Yeah, yeah, they all but but but

1060
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,120
but Nick made a documentary 
called Ghost Adventures that 

1061
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,600
started him, you know, was 
really the next. 

1062
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,720
A lot of this stuff Nick Nick as
out on his YouTube and just 

1063
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:38,360
everything is is it's really 
good. 

1064
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:39,840
It's really. 
Building. 

1065
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,440
Yeah, they're really building a 
whole. 

1066
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,240
They're great. 
They were a lot of fun. 

1067
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:45,200
Yeah. 
Really open. 

1068
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,520
Really open, you know, good 
interviews with. 

1069
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,920
Tessa, it's all it's. 
All there, man. 

1070
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Yeah. 
So look, if you're not already, 

1071
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,600
be sure to like, follow, 
subscribe. 

1072
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,760
And guys, do me a favor, and 
this is free to do. 

1073
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,760
Head over to Apple Podcasts. 
Give us some stars. 

1074
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,680
Give us a little bump over 
there, too. 

1075
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,720
Our top three folks are Spotify,
YouTube and Apple. 

1076
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,520
Give them all likes, share with 
a friend. 

1077
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,080
I know we don't have a lot of 
people out because we're not 

1078
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,160
really broadcasting on standard 
paranormal anymore. 

1079
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,360
We had some technical 
difficulties there where we're 

1080
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,400
going live when we shouldn't. 
So we're taking a until that's 

1081
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,760
sorted out, we're we're going to
stay over on the spirit side. 

1082
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,880
So anyway, do that, give us a 
like, give us a comment. 

1083
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,720
Comments go well, especially on 
Apple. 

1084
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:41,560
That helps. 
And by the way, we're ranked, 

1085
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,600
folks. 
I think we told you these 

1086
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,560
numbers before we're ranked over
there, but let us help us stay 

1087
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,280
ranked. 
I'd really appreciate it. 

1088
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,360
Really appreciate it. 
Yeah, we're doing well. 

1089
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,480
Things are going up, up, up, up.
Then we got more and great stuff

1090
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,960
to come. 
But I think that's that's all I 

1091
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,280
got for today. 
I don't know how to. 

1092
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:05,000
I mean, that's a lot to unpack. 
A lot to unpack more than just. 

1093
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,720
Yeah, it seems like there's a 
lot of unpack in that 

1094
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:08,320
collection. 
Yeah, man. 

1095
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
For a museum. 

1096
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,600
Anything coming up with you you 
want to talk about? 

1097
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,040
Going to a new location. 
Going to a new location tonight.

1098
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,920
What time will you be there? 
We'll be there probably about 

1099
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,920
9:15-ish is when I'll start 
between 9:15 and 9:30 Eastern 

1100
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,000
Standard Time and brand new 
location. 

1101
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,360
It's got, well, I'll tell you 
what it's got real quick. 

1102
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,600
It's got native blood being 
still in a lot of it. 

1103
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,040
Occult activity in the 1800s, no
less. 

1104
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,440
Native American spirits being 
seen doing rituals in the early 

1105
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,280
1900s up until about 1950s was 
the last report. 

1106
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,720
And the crazy craziness of all 
toxic waste. 

1107
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,280
Have you ever been to this place
before? 

1108
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,840
No, actually that is that OK, So
that's not true. 

1109
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,880
That is not true. 
I did do a one off there years 

1110
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,920
ago during the day looking for 
Native American spirits back in 

1111
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,800
2023. 
So some of you might remember 

1112
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,960
that, but it was a one off and I
mean it was in a different 

1113
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,960
section. 
This is a different part where 

1114
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,920
you know. 
John, do you have a set when you

1115
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,280
go to a new location like this? 
Do you have a what's the word? 

1116
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,640
I'm looking for a process for 
like, OK, this is my first time 

1117
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,720
so I have to do it this way so 
that I have a a bit. 

1118
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,040
Yeah. 
Can you walk walk us through 

1119
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,760
what that real quick what that 
is like? 

1120
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,400
What is the what is the opening 
of a new locations for to get 

1121
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,560
your baseline? 
So my baseline is the first 

1122
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,160
thing I do is I I'm actually 
really tone myself down as far 

1123
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,840
as trying to communicating with 
the spirits. 

1124
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,160
I want to hear more what's going
on. 

1125
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,680
I want to hear, I want to hear 
what's being said. 

1126
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,640
Usually I use Digo Simple. 
I won't use two or three apps at

1127
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,920
the same time. 
I'll just use one to get that 

1128
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,920
baseline to see what the spirit 
chatter is like. 

1129
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,400
I listen for things of how much 
spirit chatter there is and how 

1130
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,440
many of the spirits are like how
I'm affecting their space that 

1131
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,800
I'm in. 
OK. 

1132
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,200
And then I take it from there. 
So that's pretty, that's, that's

1133
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,680
actually pretty much it. 
And then I try to build a 

1134
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,760
relationship after that point 
with the the entities that are 

1135
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,080
there. 
So that's what we're going to be

1136
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,680
doing tonight. 
So you try to see, you try to 

1137
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,640
see if you get more like a some 
sort of back and forth, at least

1138
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,600
a volley of dialogue and then 
you try to hold on to it. 

1139
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,360
Tonight, I guarantee he's going 
to be a lot of get outs. 

1140
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,160
It's going to be a lot of 
leaves, a lot of get outs. 

1141
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,840
Not everyone's getting all these
spirits. 

1142
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,720
You'll be like, what the hell 
are you being, you know, doing 

1143
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,840
here? 
Most of the spirits when when 

1144
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,720
people are there after hours, 
they're junkies. 

1145
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,000
Right. 
So this place has a heavy had 

1146
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,760
had a heavy history. 
They cleaned it up. 

1147
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,200
Check permission to be there. 
Is it public? 

1148
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,240
It is public, OK? 
It is it, it is public. 

1149
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,640
You from what I hear, most of 
the time they only go after 

1150
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,520
people that are, you know, like 
substances and what not in 

1151
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,240
there. 
If you're in there doing the, 

1152
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,040
you know, in there for nature or
in there just by yourself, you 

1153
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,320
know, at night they don't bother
you. 

1154
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,960
Gotcha. 
So. 

1155
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,000
All right, well be. 
Safe enjoy. 

1156
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,160
We're looking forward to seeing 
what what new thing you may 

1157
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,040
learn about this spot and of 
course about what spirits are. 

1158
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,600
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you 
so much for being a part of 

1159
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,320
Splintered Spirits today again. 
Thank you for watching everyone.

1160
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,920
The The Groff episodes. 
Tessa's dropped last Tuesday, 

1161
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:04,200
Nick's drops this Tuesday. 
Hell yeah. 2. 

1162
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,840
Great episodes, make sure you 
check them out. 

1163
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,320
And head over to Apple. 
Give us a little bump on that. 

1164
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,800
Give us a little bump on Apple. 
Yeah, hit the. 

1165
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,480
Follow us everywhere. 
Follow us everywhere dude, let's

1166
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,320
but, oh, you know we we hit 1000
followers on the Facebook page. 

1167
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,400
Did we on the Book of Faces? 
No shit. 

1168
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,880
Yeah, got 1000 there now on the 
page. 

1169
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,720
So that's moving up. 
I mean, we jumped, I think it 

1170
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,320
was just yesterday. 
I, we, I announced we had like, 

1171
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,160
not yesterday, literally, but 
not too long. 

1172
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,320
We hit 1000 subscribers on 
Spotify. 

1173
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,000
We're up over 1200 there. 
Wow, yeah, that's really 

1174
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,320
Spotify's going up, blowing up 
for us. 

1175
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,200
So it's, it's been really nice. 
Awesome. 

1176
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,640
The monthly hours are pretty 
pretty great. 

1177
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,320
That's because of the smooth 
sounds of our voice. 

1178
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,760
Dude, the smooth velvet. 
I've never even been on Spotify.

1179
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,280
They can't see this right? 
Yes. 

1180
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,000
Spotify and YouTube are the only
places you can watch us. 

1181
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,480
Really. 
So you can actually so you can. 

1182
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,400
You can see this. 
Yes. 

1183
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,200
And. 
Spotify and YouTube, Apple, 

1184
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Apple is doing video now, but 
it's very, it's a little bit 

1185
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,400
more complicated to get our 
video over there. 

1186
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,200
There's a cost involved that you
have to it's just not we're not 

1187
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,880
there yet to do it. 
So we distribute through 

1188
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,080
Spotify. 
So it's and it's free. 

1189
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,760
So they put it, you know, and 
YouTube's free. 

1190
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,360
So to put video right into store
video, it is not that Apple does

1191
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,480
not store video. 
So you have to find a service 

1192
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:35,640
that will obviously hold video 
which is a lot of memory. 

1193
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:42,360
We have over 100 episodes and 
right so and in Spotify is not 

1194
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,880
distributing to a competitor yet
in that regard. 

1195
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,600
So you can only distribute audio
over to Apple. 

1196
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,280
So it is what it is and 
hopefully one day we'll get 

1197
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,480
there when this thing picks up 
or somebody buys more of these 

1198
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:59,800
hats, we'll do that. 
But we're that's the plan guys. 

1199
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,800
I mean, as we grow and we get 
bigger and the and the dollars 

1200
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,680
I. 
Mean we should. 

1201
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:05,960
We'll do it. 
Some artifacts. 

1202
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,160
Yeah, maybe we should. 
All right, guys. 

1203
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,560
Thank you, everybody. 
Thank you. 

1204
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,840
All right guys, we'll see you 
next week. 

1205
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,560
Well, that's it for another 
episode of Splintered Spirits. 

1206
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,360
Be sure to like, share, and 
subscribe to our YouTube 

1207
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,640
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1208
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,040
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