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Welcome to Splintered Spirits, a
podcast hosted by me, Gary and 

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my nephew Johnny from at Santa 
Paranormal where we try to prove

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John's theory that ghosts are 
the fractured memories of the 

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living by asking the question, 
what are spirits? 

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This is a less edited and with 
video version of what became our

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second episode. 
We didn't think we were going to

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use video when we started. 
So I look like I just rolled out

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of bed and that's because I did.
Forgive me. 

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I clean up well For those that 
do any forensic analysis 

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comparing this episode to the 
original, yes, there are 

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changes. 
I edited some of my questions in

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the original when I stuttered 
over them or they weren't clear.

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I also cut out the long pauses 
between when John asks a 

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question and the spirit's 
answer, because without a visual

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reference, it's just dead air. 
I didn't edit those out here, 

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but I do speed them up and 
you'll know when that happens. 

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For those that are new, the 
random blurbs and voices you 

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hear in the background, that's 
not someone with Terrace. 

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Those are the ghosts, the voices
John picks up when his spirit 

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box apps are manipulated by 
them. 

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So without further ado, Episode 
2, let's dive into the 

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conversation. 
Hey, Johnny, what's up? 

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Listen, as we're, as we're 
sitting here and I'm all set up,

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I just did a session on TikTok, 
a live session, speaking to a 

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child version of a spirit that I
have been documenting for for 

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three years at a completely 
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Location. 
This spirit that I'm speaking to

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now is the child version of the 
older spirit. 

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Only one. 
OK, now, all right, first of 

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all, you got to tell us, tell 
everybody where you are. 

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Where are you? 
OK, so I am at a local cemetery 

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here in Westchester County, New 
York and I am at the grave of 

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Edward. 
Let me see if I can switch the 

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camera around and give you 
actually doesn't even matter, 

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right? 
It does it, but you know, just 

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do it. 
It's good to describe the scene.

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Is it like a super old grave, 
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Yes, so I'm in an older section 
of the cemetery, graves dating 

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back to the 1700s to the early 
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Got it. 
And you do your live. 

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Oh, go ahead. 
It's a. 

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It's a very nature setting, like
it's not a uniform cemetery. 

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There's graves everywhere, 
trees, animals. 

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It's very peaceful, peaceful, 
serene nature setting. 

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Gotcha now you do your live tik 
toks from here a lot. 

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Yes. 
Now I was just I caught the end 

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of your live stream dude. 
So I saw that like and this is 

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again me trying to understand 
TikTok. 

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They had like over 300,000 
likes. 

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Does that mean people are just 
sitting there hitting the screen

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and giving you hearts? 
Yes. 

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So before my phone at the end, 
my phone died, but luckily I was

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using the iPhone. 
So I went and I plugged it in 

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and I got the live going. 
But that session we had about we

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had between 4 and 500 people 
watching. 

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And yes, that means that out of 
the four 500 people, they were 

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sitting there tapping the 
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And when you when I see those 
really whacked out icons and 

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GIFs pop up, are those that 
people have to pay to use those,

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right? 
Yes. 

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So people pay, people pay to use
them and that's called sending a

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gift. 
And I get a certain percentage 

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of of that gift that they sent. 
That's amazing to me. 

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Oh my God. 
All right, so now you're out 

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there, you're doing a session 
and this is exactly what we're 

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trying to that I want to follow 
you and try to prove, which is 

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like the biggest. 
I mean, the Tik Toks are fun and

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you're out there and you're 
talking again, you're having a 

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good time and you're getting 
spirits, you're having 

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conversations. 
But for this, we're really 

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trying to follow and hone down 
this theory of these fractured 

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memories, these splintered 
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So tell us a little bit. 
Remind us about the history of 

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Edward. 
So Edward, he's originally from 

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Massachusetts. 
He had a very bad and abusive 

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father, which led him to flee 
his home at a young age. 

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We're talking like 1213 years 
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And he left, he went, he went to
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And this is where his story gets
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We don't know if, because 
there's two different accounts 

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that you can find actually by 
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We don't know if he panhandled 
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to build his fortune, if he 
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beginning and then went on a 
merchant spree up and down the 

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Byram and Hudson rivers selling 
where's to build his fortune. 

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But something happened in 
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Massachusetts and coming to New 
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that allowed him to build a mass
fortune, enough for him to start

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with two other partners. 
I think he raised like $40,000 

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to do this. 
Which? 

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Is insane. 
In the 1800s, he built up his 

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fortune buying properties and 
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And then he ends up retiring 
early in Westchester County at 

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the building where I live and I 
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And that's where my story begins
with Edward. 

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I have countless hours of 
documentation with Edward. 

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He is a completely. 
Wants you to go. 

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Nasty spirit. 
Completely nasty. 

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He is all about money and greed.
The spirits there have said that

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he has gotten involved with. 
How graphic can I get on here? 

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Well, I I'll bleep it if it gets
too graphic, you know, But go 

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ahead, you know? 
Awesome. 

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So I'll just, I'll just speak 
freely about Edward. 

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According to the spirits, Edward
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but use them ritualistically, 
taking advantage of people that 

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were displaced in the civil war.
There are counts of Edward, and 

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this is all according to the 
spirits at the building I live 

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in. 
There are counts of Edward 

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raping, keeping sex slaves, 
using their children for 

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rituals, having many bastard 
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actually survived, just being an
overall horrible, horrible human

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being. 
So wait, I gotta ask. 

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I gotta cut in. 
I gotta cut when you say. 

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I just did. 
You just did you I. 

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Didn't hear that, What did? 
That say, OK, so he just said 

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this is the child version of 
Edward. 

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He just said my father wants me 
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In this re edit I'm just going 
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without my big mouth talking 
over it so you can really hear 

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what the ghost said loud and 
clear. 

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Father wants me dead. 
OK, no, alright, we're going to 

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get into this child. 
I want to know something about 

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when you say the spirits are the
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you this history of Edward so? 
Yes, when I. 

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Hear these voices come through. 
They're very short spurts. 

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So how have you come to this 
conclusion about, you know, like

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all of the detail that you just 
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Like, is it just like words like
he's a rapist or he's a 

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murderer, you know, sex like, 
and you're just sort of at like,

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what? 
How are you getting to this 

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sort? 
Of Imagine. 

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Imagine for three years sitting 
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with spirits, not only 
communicating with Edward 

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Edwards coming through other 
spirits are coming through 

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saying he raped me, he murdered 
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Edward was a bad man. 
Edward was this, Edward was that

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and just spirits arguing with 
Edward. 

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There are there are spots at at 
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Edward won't go because of the 
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He stays confined to 1 area. 
That is, that is nuts. 

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Which is which is why? 
That's so that's pretty wild. 

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So all right now, have you ever 
and just just about the history 

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of him, have you ever like he 
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family? 
Have you ever tried to track 

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down? 
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Interesting enough. 
Interesting enough, what 

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happened with Edward was that 
his yes, he's he just, it's 

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funny. 
He just said daughter. 

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Edward had only one son that 
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And he had five daughters that 
were not, you know, not bastard 

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children we're talking about. 
They bore his last that he had 

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it with his wife Elizabeth. 
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Some of those daughters didn't 
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The other the two daughters that
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other prominent families in the 
area, and the last name for this

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genealogy fizzled out. 
You couldn't. 

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Find you didn't, right? 
You couldn't find where, where, 

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what got it? 
Nope. 

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OK and so interesting enough and
they'll never come forward. 

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I'll never be able to interview 
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I've spoken to him personally in
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I have spoken to the bastard 
family of Edward, the ones that 

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survived. 
There is a story that the 

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spirits talked about that one of
the daughters that ended up 

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surviving rescued 3 of the 
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One of them was just a baby and 
two of them were little girls 

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and they escaped and she was 
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house before they were 
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And that bastard family is still
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And what's insane is I'm wearing
a shirt that it's the shirt says

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I'm a stupid Stoner because 
Edward calls me a stupid Stoner 

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at the building can. 
You hear? 

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Him OK and so the shirt says 
it's got a big pot leaf on it 

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and says, you know, I'm a stupid
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Stoner. 
You know, Edward, I'm at the 

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bar. 
There's an older woman at the 

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bar in her 60s. 
She sees the shirt and she looks

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at me and she goes, what do you 
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And I straight up was like, you 
might sound what I'm about to 

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say crazy, but and I explained 
everything. 

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She burst into tears. 
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My family is held on to these 
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We know all about this. 
Nobody believed us. 

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You know, this is where we come 
from. 

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And I'm like, no, I believe you.
I was like, I believe you all. 

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Right, I'm going to take a quick
second here and I want you to 

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tell the audience because you're
saying you're wearing this 

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stupid show and I see this 
stupid Stoner shirt and I see 

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that you are missing a tooth and
you look like a homeless 

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crackhead right now. 
Please tell me what is going on 

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with that tooth because like 
what did you do to yourself? 

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So, so listen, I've been, I've 
been doing construction for 

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years and I was working at this 
very haunted building where 

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Edward is. 
And I am on a ladder and I 

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needed a pair of channel locks 
to loosen up a lug nut that was 

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keeping a fixture held up. 
And somehow, some way, that 

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those pliers slipped and fucking
whacked me right in the mouth 

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and just destroyed the tooth. 
So, man, has anybody ever yelled

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at you out in the cemetery? 
They look at you like, you see 

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this tooth, like this guy 
missing a tooth walking around 

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with a Stoner shirt. 
I mean, is it like, what? 

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What? 
What's keeping somebody from 

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like, calling the cops thinking 
you're a grave robber? 

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So what one big thing, because 
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this, I actually do a lot of 
work in cemeteries. 

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Like I, I take over abandoned 
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So I have a certain etiquette in
cemeteries that I follow when it

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comes to cemeteries that I just 
are you drinking blood? 

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No, bro, that's funny. 
No, it's my classic Starbucks 

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iced coffee. 
Yeah, my uncle. 

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'S a fucking vampire, yeah, 
yeah. 

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No, no, this is my my, this is 
my go to Grande iced coffee. 

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Black Nice. 
So I have a certain etiquette in

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a cemetery and for example, I 
don't do any work in this 

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cemetery other than cleaning 
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I clean a lot of headstones 
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I have a great relationship with
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So before I go into a cemetery, 
I contact whoever's running the 

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cemetery, find out the details. 
You know what's allowed, what's 

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not allowed, you know, XYZ dot 
all my IS cross my T's and I 

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stick to the old sections of 
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So anybody that comes here and 
visits, they're not family of 

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any of these people. 
But if they are, they're like 

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far away descendants and I have 
full permission to be here. 

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OK, so but I do but but I do 
every now and then come across 

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crazy people. 
One woman was stalking me and 

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she ended up running over 2 
graves and she ended up getting 

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kicked out of the cemetery. 
Maybe something I mean like a 

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follower like the follow? 
John no, she was just somebody 

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that would always walk here or 
drive around here and she saw me

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and what I do and took great 
offense to it. 

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So she was yeah, non-stop just 
coming after me. 

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That whole thing's actually on 
my TikTok, the whole, the whole 

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thing, it was, it was all live. 
Oh, I got to find that. 

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OK, I'll find that and I'll drop
that in. 

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That'll be good. 
All right, now let's talk about 

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Edward. 
Now you're sitting close to his 

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grave, I assume somewhere. 
Are you in the vicinity of his 

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actual grave? 
Yep, let me turn this around 

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real quick, OK? 
That's the the tall one. 

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So the tall 1 is just a grave 
marker that just tells us who's 

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buried in the family plot. 
So it's Edward, his wife and a 

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couple of his children. 
So I'm looking just so. 

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Far to a grave for our audience.
Small grave that says Father. 

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OK, so for the audience looking 
at this, you know, you can't see

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it right now and you know, maybe
we'll, we'll try to put pictures

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up, some video up with it. 
But I'm looking at, you know, 

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you're looking at two small 
graves. 

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Does that say mother and father?
Yeah. 

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It's a little blurry right now, 
but. 

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Father once says mother. 
Got it. 

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And then there's a bigger 
monument and behind it that 

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they're supposed to be the OR 
his family plot in this. 

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And yeah, it is a very sporadic 
looking cemetery. 

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You're right. 
It does not look like there is 

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any uniformity to where these 
graves are buried. 

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It was just like first come 
first serve. 

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Yes, and there and then. 
So for example, I'll also 

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sometimes, I don't know if you 
can see it, I'll also sometimes 

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plant flowers. 
That's a grave I cleaned right 

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over there named William. 
Nice guy. 

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Nice guy, nice guy. 
All right, so, OK, so you're 

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here today. 
You're doing a TikTok. 

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How do we All right, get it. 
Let's get into Edward, man. 

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Let's figure out and let's 
figure out how we try to connect

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Edward here to when we do 
another session in your basement

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and try to see and talk to that 
Edward there. 

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So, all right, so how do you 
know it was Edward Debate? 

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Like the younger version or 
child? 

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Version so so this. 
Is and. 

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Why would and why do you think 
the child version is here here? 

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So this is my fourth time here 
documenting this plot and coming

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across this child version of 
Edward. 

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And the reason why I think the 
child version of him is here is 

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because his mother is here, not 
his father. 

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He had a really bad relationship
with his father and he is his 

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father isn't here but he had his
mother after she passed away, 

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brought here and buried at the 
family plot. 

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Now, why do you think that? 
Why do you think it's because of

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the mother? 
What? 

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What's the connect? 
What wouldn't you? 

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What do you explain that 
connection to be? 

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So. 
Because why would his? 

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Child be here, so I believe that
his mother is here as well. 

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During the session I just did on
TikTok, we heard the name Mary 

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come through quite a bit and 
there's a couple. 

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Mary's buried here because it's 
a family name. 

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However, the child version of 
Edward is also coming through. 

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So I believe that the mother is 
here and these quantum memories 

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connect. 
So these splintered memories, 

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these quantum memories connect 
and we're able to access the 

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child version of Edward due to 
the mother being buried here. 

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OK, what it now what did the 
what did the child do to 

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identify himself to you that you
know it's it like how did. 

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You, he's already told us, 
walking. 

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Through your process. 
Yeah, so he's already told us 

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his name. 
He said my name is Edward. 

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He said my mother calls me Edge.
He and he's speaking about his 

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father in great lengths, I 
guarantee while we do this 

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session, and he already did, he 
already brought up his his his 

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father. 
He's going to bring up his 

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father a lot. 
So this child version of Edward 

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has a lot of resentment. 
Yeah. 

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You know what? 
I can't even call it resentment.

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It's more like a lack of 
understanding about why his 

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father is so mean. 
He keeps bringing it up. 

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My father is a bad man. 
My father's so mean. 

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So I think. 
And I think that's what led him 

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to become the monster 
financially and humanely that he

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ended up becoming. 
That we think he's be be 

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becoming allegedly. 
Allegedly, according to the 

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spirits. 
According to the spirits. 

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What? 
OK man, let's get him. 

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Try to get him. 
Call him out dude. 

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Edward, Edward, if you are here,
can you please tell me your 

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name? 
She told me. 

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What did she tell you? 
Is there someone here telling 

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you not to speak? 
Stop it. 

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Something's going on. 
He told me. 

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Something's going on. 
Hey John, when when you hear, do

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they sometimes sound different 
through the app? 

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Like will they always have the 
same? 

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Oh, what was that? 
It all depends on which app I'm 

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using. 
So Vox. 

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I turned Vox off 'cause it can 
get loud while we're talking. 

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Vox scans through radio waves. 
The spirits manipulate the radio

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waves via the mago meter. 
You know, think of it as the 

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butterfly effect. 
You know, a butterfly flutters 

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and it causes a tornado. 
I don't know if you've ever 

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heard heard about that, but same
same effect to the magno meter 

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on the phones. 
And but with Ghost 2, it's 

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different. 
All right, we'll get back to 

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you, Edward. 
We'll talk to you. 

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Edward, can you tell me about 
your dad? 

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Tell me about your father. 
Don't hold back. 

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Happy. 
You're happy. 

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Why are you happy? 
Not likely. 

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Oh, not likely. 
Maybe he's happy he's dead. 

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Maybe Edward? 
It's. 

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What we want? 
No, it's it's what? 

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Who's we? 
Is that you and your mother? 

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Dude, look, look at my arm right
now. 

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I don't know if you can see it. 
I just got chills from them. 

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Yeah. 
Getting chills? 

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Edward, I want you to talk to me
about your father the way you 

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talk to me when I was live, 
before you were telling us all 

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sorts of information. 
Tell me how he treated you. 

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Don't be scared and don't be shy
and don't listen to any other 

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spirit. 
Right now. 

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I want you to listen to me in 
the sound of my voice. 

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Tell me about your dad. 
Not. 

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OK. 
Leave it. 

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You want me to leave it alone? 
How about this, Edward? 

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Why don't you tell me about your
mother instead? 

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Let's talk about your Mama. 
And I say this is going to be 

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the hard one. 
And what was funny, Edward, tell

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me about your mom. 
Who's funny is he didn't come 

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through for 40 minutes while I 
was on TikTok. 

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It was just a bunch of other 
random spirits. 

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And then all the sudden out of 
nowhere, I was explaining to 

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somebody what I know about the 
child version. 

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And then right when I said, Oh 
yeah, he didn't like his dad, 

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bam, he just started going on 
about his dad. 

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All right, well, we'll pull up 
that video and you'll get that 

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to me. 
Yeah, I'll get that to you. 

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I got to go through that live. 
There was just one that I just 

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did. 
So it takes, it takes me a bit 

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to get through through to them 
through the lives. 

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The replays are insane. 
Like an hour, you know, you know

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how it is. 
An hour replay is at least an 

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hour and a half going through. 
So. 

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It's, it's insane. 
Edward. 

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Edward, do you remember what you
said to me the last time I was 

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here about us being friends? 
Just making sure my wireless 

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routed and freeze. 
You're still here. 

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I got you. 
Did you hear him? 

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No, I was talking, but tell me. 
Yeah, he. 

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Just said he just said John 
visits me. 

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Luckily your your thing is 
recorded solo so I'll be able to

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have your audio. 
Lucky for us, we do have that 

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recording, so let me just play 
it back and I'll shut my mouth. 

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Just making sure my wireless 
router didn't freeze. 

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Helm, John visits me. 
There we go. 

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Did you hear him? 
Yeah, he just said. 

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He just said John visits me. 
Oh, awesome. 

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Oh, yeah, He just said John. 
Yes, I do. 

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I do visit you, Edward. 
Who are you talking to? 

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He's talking to somebody else. 
He's not talking to us 'cause he

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just said John visits me. 
I So what I think is going on, I

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think there's another spirit 
here trying to tell him not to 

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speak. 
That's what we were hearing 

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before. 
And right now, you know, I the 

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evidence of that is he just 
said, you know, evil. 

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Is there something evil here? 
Edward? 

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Let's talk about that. 
What's trying to stop you from 

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speaking? 
She won't leave. 

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She won't leave. 
It's a she interesting and that 

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happens a lot while while I'm 
doing this, I have spirits that 

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bother other spirits, almost 
like a jealousy thing like oh, 

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how come you know he wants to 
talk to you and not me? 

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You know what's? 
What's really what's really 

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interesting because it's like on
your TikTok, like I want 

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everyone to know that I'm 
watching you right now. 

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You're on camera. 
I can see your hands. 

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I can see this. 
This is. 

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Whatever this thing is. 
You know, you're right that like

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this is all coming. 
This is these voices are coming 

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through. 
They seem to be Ant they do 

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legitimately feel like they're 
you're answering your questions.

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But like on the TikTok, you, you
know, you're not always on 

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camera. 
And I could see why people might

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be like. 
I get that all the time. 

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I get that all the time. 
I get people that are 

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constantly, constantly like, oh,
you're pressing buttons. 

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Oh, that's a recording, you 
know, and it's just, I have a 

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great community and they know 
how I operate. 

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You know, there's that level of 
trust, you know that and they 

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and they know that. 
Sometimes I'm such a space. 

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Happening. 
Well, so Edward, right now 

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what's happening is I'm talking 
to my uncle. 

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What date? 
What date it's? 

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What is it, the 25th? 
It's the 25th. 

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It's the 25th. 
It's the 25th of September 2024.

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Why is it pathetic? 
I'm going to turn on Vox to see 

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if anything else is coming 
through. 

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Maybe we can hear what's 
bothering Edward, and Edward 

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might use Vox as well. 
So. 

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OK. 
Edward, I want you to tell me 

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about your parents. 
I want you. 

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I want you. 
You're in pain. 

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I know you are. 
I want you to introduce yourself

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and then tell me about your 
parents. 

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I know it sounds weird because 
we've already we've already 

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spoken, but it would be a it 
would be doing me a great favor 

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if you can introduce yourself 
and then tell me about your 

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parents. 
Satanic. 

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Satanic, you know, earlier in 
the TikTok live he was 

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describing his father as Satan. 
Where? 

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Are you, where am I? 
I am right by your mommy's 

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grave. 
It's. 

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Edward, can you please introduce
yourself and tell me about your 

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parents? 
This is way clearer than all the

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voices in their factor. 
You know in your office. 

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I don't want to talk over. 
I'm trying to talk low. 

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That's my issue on TikTok. 
Night. 

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The wind isn't too bad, right? 
Because it's. 

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Windy No, no, no. 
Everything's it's fine. 

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And I'll, I'll right now it 
sounds great. 

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Can I switch this? 
No. 

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OK. 
All right, Edward. 

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I know it's hard and I know you 
got a lot of other spirits 

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talking chip between I need. 
You that sound like a different 

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voice. 
Yeah, I need you to tell me your

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full name and tell me about your
parents. 

455
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,760
I know you can do it. 
Sister. 

456
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:25,400
You did have a sister. 
We did have an older sister. 

457
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,600
Would you like to talk about 
her? 

458
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,000
Locket. 
You had a Locket of hers for me.

459
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,760
It was it was for me. 
You hear that talking about his 

460
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,360
sister passed away when he was 
young. 

461
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,080
I can hear you. 
Good. 

462
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,640
I'm glad you can hear me. 
I'm talking to my uncle right 

463
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760
now, Edward. 
That's why it seems like I'm 

464
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:57,160
talking to somebody else. 
It's crazy, right, Edward? 

465
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,920
Let's talk more about your 
family life. 

466
00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:11,500
I'm like looking over your 
shoulder, making sure no one 

467
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,580
sneaks up behind you with like 
an axe or something or some some

468
00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:16,220
girl in the ring that sounded 
like cigarette. 

469
00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:18,420
Maybe he wants to smoke, but 
isn't he too young to smoke? 

470
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:19,780
Or is that somebody else? 
Oh yeah. 

471
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:21,780
He's dead. 
Well, I mean back in the 1800s. 

472
00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:23,860
Satanic they were. 
Freeze to. 

473
00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:25,500
Leave. 
They were. 

474
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:28,060
That sounded like satanic. 
Please leave. 

475
00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:30,400
Yeah, that's exactly what that 
was. 

476
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,040
So there's something so 
interesting enough, a lot of 

477
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,240
spirits when they're negative 
and angry or sad, they look 

478
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,800
different to other spirits 
because of the vibrational 

479
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,800
frequency. 
So there's something here which,

480
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:49,560
you know, I, I suspected that is
probably upset and angry, that 

481
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,840
looks to be evil. 
And a child might be like, oh, 

482
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,320
that's satanic, that's evil, 
which we both heard both those 

483
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,560
words. 
That doesn't necessarily mean 

484
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,240
it's demonic, you know, or an 
entity from a hell like 

485
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920
dimension or anything like that.
Because technically I'm an 

486
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,360
atheist. 
I don't believe in heaven and 

487
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,800
hell. 
I don't believe in your 

488
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,200
pitchfork and and all, and 
you've sky daddy and all that. 

489
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,640
But these spirits do. 
So we have to go by their lingo.

490
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,560
You know, if they see something 
that they don't understand, 

491
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,160
they're going to be like, oh 
shit. 

492
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,280
Total side point. 
Did I ever tell you how the 

493
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Church of Satan wanted me to 
join? 

494
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Because I used to like a lot of 
their stuff on Twitter and stuff

495
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,440
and they asked me to join and I 
said, listen, I appreciate it, 

496
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,920
but I don't agree. 
I'm not interested in any 

497
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,560
organized religion ever. 
And I'll never join any 

498
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200
organized religion. 
And, and they wrote back, you 

499
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,560
know, well, that's the most 
Satanic thing ever. 

500
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,920
That's Satanic, Satanic. 
They just said Satanic. 

501
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,680
Well, you know what's 
interesting about the, the, the,

502
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640
the, I don't even think they 
believe in Satan like that. 

503
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,160
The Church of Satan. 
They're not like, like they 

504
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,720
don't even believe in Satan. 
They're all atheists, you know, 

505
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,480
which is, which is very 
interesting. 

506
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840
It's not when people hear the 
Church of Satan, they're like, 

507
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760
Oh my God, the devil and this, 
that and the other. 

508
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,040
No, it's the imagery is just 
there as an example, you know, 

509
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520
as a that's all it is. 
That's really interesting. 

510
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,680
And hey, they're not wrong with 
their commandments. 

511
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840
The pillars? 
No, I do. 

512
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,440
Yeah. 
Yeah, they got some good ones, 

513
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,200
dude. 
They do. 

514
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
They got good ones, man. 
That's how I live my life. 

515
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,080
You know, like here. 
Is it? 

516
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,560
So what year is it? 
It's 2024. 

517
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,680
They're not. 
It's all you know. 

518
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,400
And I guarantee if you know 
Jesus Christ to read those, he'd

519
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,760
be like, Oh yeah, I agree, you 
know, Yeah. 

520
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,840
So. 
Death. 

521
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,520
Let's see if we can, Edward. 
Open it. 

522
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Edward, listen, I'm going to try
to change my voice up a little 

523
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,520
bit. 
I'll try to change my voice up a

524
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,360
little bit. 
Frequency and all that fun 

525
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:10,200
stuff. 
Edward, I want you to remember 

526
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,000
your parents and speak about 
them. 

527
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,600
Silly. 
Silly. 

528
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Why is it still not? 
Oh, OK, yeah, he doesn't want to

529
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,520
talk about him now. 
It's interesting, right? 

530
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,080
We, we, we should also, we'll 
get, we should also give him 

531
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,720
some of our secrets to test. 
Satanic. 

532
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,960
This is connected to the other 
Edward. 

533
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:49,800
So according to my theory, 
technically these two spirits 

534
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,760
shouldn't be connected. 
I know. 

535
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,400
That's why we should test it. 
Yeah. 

536
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,560
And see. 
So we got to tell. 

537
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,160
Let's let's give rather than try
to get information from. 

538
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Him. 
I got an idea outside. 

539
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,960
Yeah, here's an idea. 
Tell him this, Johnny. 

540
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,440
Tell him. 
Tell this Edward, the 1st girl 

541
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:13,560
that you tricked into taking 
your virginity and then see. 

542
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Technically, technically I, I 
was tricked because she was 15 

543
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:24,800
and I was 13, so I was tricked. 
Believe it or not, you know her 

544
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,320
name. 
Her name was Catherine. 

545
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,680
So now we'll know. 
Now he'll know that and we'll 

546
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800
ask the other one that. 
Or what else? 

547
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,680
The other Edward's going to turn
around and say he's going to 

548
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,880
tell me to shut up, that I'm a 
virgin, just so you know, like 

549
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,440
that's the way that Edward 
talks. 

550
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Oh, that'll be great. 
Leave. 

551
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,320
We don't mean to offend you, 
Edward. 

552
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600
We're not trying to be mean. 
We're not trying to be mean. 

553
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,920
What else? 
What else? 

554
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,280
What other things can we tell 
this this this version to see if

555
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,640
it comes over? 
We'll see how many. 

556
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,480
I've got. 
I've got one. 

557
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,240
I've got. 
Visits. 

558
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,640
Me, it just said. 
John visits me. 

559
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,800
Yep, Yep. 
I definitely visit you. 

560
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,160
My ride. 
My ride is here. 

561
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640
He's got to go to work at 3:00. 
But hold on. 

562
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,600
Let me let me say this. 
This this last thing. 

563
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,360
Yeah. 
Edward. 

564
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:18,440
Edward, this man that I'm 
speaking to that you can hear 

565
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,080
this is my Uncle Gary. 
OK. 

566
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,920
I hate my dad. 
You hate your dad. 

567
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,040
OK, well, this is my uncle. 
This isn't my father. 

568
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,199
This is my uncle. 
All right? 

569
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,400
I just want it. 
I'm going to. 

570
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,320
This is my uncle Gary. 
So you know for the next time. 

571
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,840
OK. 
All right, Edward. 

572
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,840
So now when we talk to the other
Edward. 

573
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,320
See if he knows my name. 
We're going to see if he knows 

574
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,880
your name and but we're going to
say you're my brother to him and

575
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,600
we're and we're going to see if 
he goes, Oh yeah, you know, 

576
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,239
that's your brother. 
You know what I'm saying? 

577
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,520
If he goes and says no, that's 
your uncle, then we know there's

578
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,480
a connection between the two. 
He knows you're lying to him. 

579
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,440
He knows I'm lying to him. 
Sure. 

580
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,680
All right, and if you remember 
and. 

581
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,320
If he remembers Catherine, but 
it's like if he remembers 

582
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Catherine. 
Johnny, this is great. 

583
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,120
This is a good session. 
I want to get this is the first 

584
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,200
step into proving this theory. 
I know you got to go. 

585
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,000
I don't want to hold you up for 
everybody listening to where we 

586
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,720
are testing our theory. 
First with Edward here at the 

587
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:34,960
cemetery with my nephew Johnny. 
And we got a lot of creepy stuff

588
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,480
here. 
We put a little few things to 

589
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,920
the test. 
And when we come back in the 

590
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,920
next one, we'll see if those two
places connect, right? 

591
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,320
I mean, that's Yep. 
Perfect. 

592
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,120
Yep. 
OK, next time we come back, 

593
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,880
we're going to be at the 
building that Edward lived in 

594
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:55,320
when he was an adult, OK, And 
committed all these crimes. 

595
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,480
OK, call me when you want to do 
that. 

596
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,680
Got you. 
We could do that soon because 

597
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,960
that's right at that where I 
live. 

598
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,880
Yeah, I know. 
So just tell me when we'll make 

599
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,160
it work. 
Awesome. 

600
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,200
Sounds good. 
All right, Uncle Gary. 

601
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,000
I'll see you later. 
All right. 

602
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Love you, bud. 
I'll talk to you. 

603
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Love you too. 
Bye. 

604
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,120
Bye. 
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605
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,240
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606
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,400
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607
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