Hello everyone. Yo-yo, what is happening,
everybody? And welcome, welcome, welcome to
another live episode of Splintered Spirits.
Splintered Spirits, the podcast where my nephew John, John,
Santa, Santa Paranormal and I deep dive into the mysteries of
the paranormal as we try to answer the question what are
spirits? Anything.
Do we figure it out yet? John?
Do we know what spirits are yet? No, no, we have not yet figured
it out. But I do have some ideas.
I do have some ideas, some theories, you know, and, you
know, keeping up with quantum physics and quantum mechanics
and all that fun stuff, seeing if any.
New books. Oh dude, I've been.
Taking some classes. Yeah, that's just what's one of
my, it's always been one of my hobbies, you know, that and
anthropology and a couple other things that I always say up on
the up and up with, you know, and yeah, no, it's wild.
It's wild. And you know, we're going to,
we're going to dive. Into it.
Let me ask you. Let me ask you a serious
question. We do have a guest coming today
and as soon as they join us, I will tell you all about them.
It's but when you're looking at all of your documentation, what
lines can you draw to connect these dots?
When you start thinking about, you know, your quantum theories
of these things, you understand that question.
Does that make sense? I it makes perfect sense and the
line. Does IT support or no or go
against your? It definitely supports.
It definitely supports because it seems the common thread,
whether something is asking for help, something is talking about
a situation, something is talking to me directly, or
something is talking about a situation, or they're dealing
with each other, the common thread is always that it is one
singular mind from their perspective.
What do you mean by that? What does that mean?
So, so take a think about it like this.
If you were to take a, this is going to get really crazy, but
it's the only way for me really. That's the only way we know how
to do it here at Splinter Spirits.
Is to get crazy. I know I wish I had my white
board. I'm about to start busting it
out. Let's go, dude.
So. FG.
So imagine you took a man from the 1400s, OK, And you granted
him the ability to live that entire time up until now, right?
And you know you're about to take away this ability from him
to live, but you want to hear before he dies.
You want to hear everything about him?
OK. OK, everything he's experienced,
everything, you're going to get an account of history, correct
As he lived from one singular perspective his and that's it.
So it doesn't matter what was, let's say he was from England,
OK, or, or, or Italy, it doesn't make a difference or, or, or
Africa or wherever. You're going to get his singular
perspective on the, you know, 600 plus years that followed and
he's not going to be able to tell you anything outside of his
perspective. OK.
OK, so it's the same thing with spirits.
It's literally the same thing with spirits, you know, whether
they learn something new or they're speaking about, you
know, what they're going through, it's always from that
singular perspective and, and people and people lose sight of
that when dealing with spirits. So and how does that, how does
that knowing that it's one perspective, what does that tell
you on a from a longer haul? For a big picture.
So the longer haul, bigger picture, you know, tells me that
I'm dealing with these individuals individually, if you
will. Right, OK, you get what I mean
by that. Like it's not.
So if I turn on the spirit box, I start talking to a spirit.
I'm not going to turn around and get, you know, answers to
something that happened, you know, hundreds and hundreds of
miles away from the spirit. OK.
Now, maybe in the next 200 years when the, you know, the ghost
hunters and investigators and, and enthusiasts are talking to
spirits, in 2-3 hundred years, they'll be able to say, Oh yeah,
I remember the World Trade Center, even though they're all
the way in France. You get what I'm saying?
Because it's a different, yes, it's a different type of, of
pursuit. So it's always that one
perspective and it's, and it's really wild that you really
start to see it. They and it's almost like they
don't exist outside of that perspective unless you bring
them into it. And that's when, for example,
like the spirits are talking about the ranking on TikTok, or
they mention a gift that gets dropped or even more simple,
they bring up somebody in the chat.
Speaking of the chat, welcome everyone.
Welcome everyone on TikTok and YT and wherever you may be
watching or listening to Splintered Spirits.
If you are on Santa Paranormal, by all means hop over to
Splintered Spirits and give it a subscribe, give it a like and
give it a share. Can you give me a practical
example of everything you're talking about?
Like a specific thing that you have listened to that said and
said? That's why this is what I think
it is. Yeah, so a great example of this
is Anne over at the pre war burial ground.
It didn't take Anne long, you know, long to learn that I was
on this strange thing that was allowing me to communicate with
the tons of other people. It didn't take her long to
realize that. In fact, she was even able to
realize, hey, you know, I can't talk to John right now because
he's not hearing me, but I can talk to the people and respond
to what the people are. It's it's weird.
And another example that is Edward, when Edward would start
flipping out on people for sending gifts, like he was able,
you know, through his perspective, he was able to go,
wait a minute, what the Hell's going on here?
I don't want this fool making money, you know, stop sending
him gifts. He was able to tell.
He was able to figure it all out.
Now, to counter your art, your own argument, what would?
What would they be saying that would then make you think that
that's not what's happening? What would be an example of
something they could say that would make you think otherwise?
So those are and you know what's funny is it does happen, but on
a different level. Like one time I came across a
pair of time travellers, I shit you not, they claim they claim
to be time travellers and they claim to have gotten stuck and
then died. OK.
That which that completely, you know, that's a, if you're time
traveling, yeah, sure, it's your singular perspective, but now
you have a linear, a not so linear shot of seeing
everything. If they're saying they could,
that means they can pick where they wanted to go, you know,
which is a different, you know, example.
But that's so few and far between.
I think it's only happened once to me.
I think maybe there's someone in the chat that's like, no John,
it happened this time too. And you know, I just don't.
Remember some of your librarians?
They're going through. Oh, I've got them, you know, and
without them, without them, my, my, my stroke brain ass wouldn't
be able to figure out anything, you know?
It's amazing. That's amazing.
All right, well, and then so it's so this is what you've been
doing. You've been going through,
you're literally now going through a lot of your lives in
the old videos and you are start of categorizing them and
grouping them together to see connections, messaging,
progression, regression, just sort of everything.
Everything themes like think about all the spirits that hit
on me and ask for sex, right? I mean, it's, it's, it's crazy.
And sometimes they're crude about it.
You know, sometimes they don't care.
They will they will sound horrible about it and why not?
They're dead boredom. Thank you for those gifts guys.
That's kind of you. Boredom is a, is a is a big part
of it. Boredom.
Are bored.
Yes, spirits are bored. Why are they bored?
Why do they keep saying they're bored?
You know what? You know what would lead them to
be like? Oh, I'm bored.
It's it's, it's wild, you know, and, and what's crazy about that
too, is like you can hear them talking about being bored,
whether it's a static stream, like if I were to fire up the
spare boxes and walk away from here and we just left and we
left them running. We'll hear the spirits talk
about how they're bored. You know, you'll hear them all
the time You've been at 7th any, any location.
It's like, wait a minute, why are you bored?
What's your reality like that? You know, you're so damn bored.
That's interesting. Yeah, man, it's, it's it also, I
I don't know, I kind of would find it a little offensive
because it's like what I you guys got to be bored to talk to
me. Why can't you just what's what?
I don't have the personality. That's, well, that's one of my
my things. You in on this?
Yeah, when a spirit says they're bored, I'm like, all right,
spirit, if you're bored, then talk to me.
Let's have a conversation. Try to talk to me, you know,
that's what, that's what I try to tell them.
Someone's asking, have you ever used other things other than
apps? Yes.
They love your show, Lady Calamere.
Yes. Wants to know.
Yes. But we predominantly, we're
predominantly a ghost app guy. So 100% and and the reason, the
reason why is because there is nothing easier and simpler than
firing it up on a device. OK, it's.
Especially when you're walking and moving and.
Exactly. It's just it's just so much
easier to do. I've done it all socially back
in the day with Evps and, you know, using different things.
A lot of people want me to bring EV PS into it and also run EV
PS. But you know, that's when I got
to remind them, hey, listen, I'm documenting.
I am not, I am not ghost hunting.
However. However, one of the big changes
that's coming up for Santa Paranormal and I'm hoping to
have this up and running by December is the actual
investigation process of the tower.
While I'm documenting, I am, I'm, I'm creating a essentially
a language model, very rudimentary that all it's going
to do is be a, an investigator. And I looked into it.
I, I actually got off live last night early because I had, I
was, I was sitting there and this, this, it's just in the
back of my head and I'm like, I have to make this.
I have to plan this out and make it so all right.
I want to hear more about this. And I think that's going to be
easy for you to put even, you know, a digital recording device
in there and then you can record and follow up and see if you
hear things that you don't hear and all that stuff.
But our guest is ready to. Lobby awesome.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a wonderful guest.
Very fun. Goes by the name of Spooky
Scoundrel. Spooky's got over 400,000
followers on TikTok, the paranormal investigator and a
ghost tour guide based in Toronto.
I want to hear about some Canadian ghosts.
I wonder if they're nicer there 'cause everybody in Canadians
nice in Canada is nice. So I just want to see if the
ghosts are even nicer. Spooky has been exploring the
supernatural since 2005 and began leading public paranormal
investigations in 2021. They teach people how to talk to
ghosts. Specializing in historic and
heritage hauntings, they bring history to life through the
spirits, all with a uniquely level headed, goofy and curious
approach. I've been watching a lot of
Spooky's Tik Toks and I find it very funny because you know, you
know, I have a an affinity for more light hearted, you know,
ghost talk as opposed to the, you know, that kind of thing.
Spooky's already always ready to debunk when possible.
Make the paranormal less scary, more accessible, and a whole lot
more fun. Let us bring in Spooky Scoundrel
right now so that the people can meet them.
Spooky welcome. Thank you so much.
Hello. Hello, hello, hello.
And welcome. Thank you for joining us.
Oh thanks so much for having me, this is so exciting.
Oh yeah, is it? Wow, that's yeah, I love talking
about ghosts. I I can't get enough of.
It So now what? Why?
What is it? What?
OK, I want to know. First off, spooky, what happened
that sparked your interest? What?
What made you get into ghosts? That's a really good question.
I feel like I've just been super into ghosts my entire life.
When other people were playing with toys and like going
outside, I was reading about aliens and ghosts.
I would ask everywhere that I would go to if they were
haunted. Just a really a fascination ever
since I can remember. But I also went to a haunted
high school, and that's kind of when I really started actively
investigating because I had a place to go to.
But does that mean that you saw something there like that?
That you had an experience that was OK?
Everything I loved is now being. It's happening.
I'm seeing. Yeah, pretty much.
I worked in the auditorium a lot.
I was on stage crew for a lot of our shows that we've put on and
that meant that I was always one of the first ones in and last
ones out. So we were there alone a lot and
a lot of really strange things happened.
It was a very well known spirit. His name was Jamie.
He was a former custodian, and he would mess with the lights
all the time. We would hear the piano play by
itself when no one was even near it.
The fire curtain would come down by itself, even though the only
way it could even be triggered would be if someone like, broke
that little box and pulled down the actual alarm.
So yeah, a lot of different things happened.
That sounds like a terrible place to go to high school.
It's just like, you know? I don't know.
It was the best years of my life.
You love it. Spooky.
You don't consider yourself like a medium or anything.
You, this is just a love of yours and you investigate and
you got into so did you start reading up how, how did you
learn how to become an investigator?
The first year was just figuring it out, really trying things.
I had always kind of gotten in my head that I was going to be a
paranormal investigator one day, so I had studied parapsychology
just like on my own time. By that point, I was already a
member of the Toronto Ghosts and Hauntings Research Society here
in my city as well, and. Say that again.
What is that? Oh, sorry, the Toronto Ghosts
and Hauntings Research Society. OK.
A very fun online database, I guess of all of the different
hauntings in Toronto and Ontario.
And then Ghost Hunters in 2004 was kind of the big one, the TV
show. I was like, oh man, there's
actual people out there doing this.
Sure. Jason Hollis has a lot of
babies, I think. Yeah.
He's got. A lot of babies.
Not an entire generation. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
That's OK. Yeah, they made it.
It made it very OK, like the everyman kind of guy, the
plumber, and then it's like they're out there doing it and.
Yeah, they weren't like, weird by day, I mean.
Basically are weird by day we all are right.
But yeah, they were just average people.
And then, you know, they had jobs.
And so it kind of showed you like, oh, OK, so this is, you
know, a hobby that people really enjoy.
Even when I. Worked at Discovery at the time
this I know there was a sci-fi show when I worked at Discovery,
the name we would have for for those types of people that
weren't, you know, that had these incredible hobby.
They were called, we called them passionate obsessives, right?
We always look for like, who's the passionate obsessive?
They didn't have to be learned or have a 17° behind them on
their wall. They just had to know an
incredible amount of knowledge of that stuff, you know, but
there's a guy, this is neither here nor there, but it reminds
it. But it's a it's an example I
used to use. It was the one of these actors.
He was on lost and he was one of the hobbits, you know, and I
forget his name and I'm blanking on his name, but his parents
were what? What are people who study bugs?
Is it entomologist? Entomologist.
This guy can tell you everything about a bug down to like, you
know how there's like 12 what is it 8 class or something could do
go down all the way like any. But he's obsessed.
He loves it 'cause his parent, but he didn't study it.
He's a he's a good actor. He's a working actor.
That's not his study, but he is a passionate obsessive about
this and that's what I find is in.
So now is this what you do full time?
No. What's your day do you have?
What's your day job? My day job is doing online
customer service support for government login services.
Oh my God. Really super the opposite of
ghost hunting. Right, that is so when do you do
but you give tours? Yes, so I consider that kind of
a part time gig. I do that in the evenings.
Ghost tour guide. At this point I've been doing it
for over 10 years so it's honestly just fun.
I sometimes forget it's a job for me.
I just really enjoy telling stories and talking to people.
Is this for our company or is this something you started cuz?
You sort of investigated, Yeah. I wish I'd started it and it's a
fun place to work for. But it's called the Haunted
Walk. We operate in three different
cities in Canada, Toronto, Kingston and Ottawa.
They've been around for I think 30 years this year, so pretty
well established. Like tourism, but showing the
darker side. Got it.
Have you ever been absolutely freaked out yourself?
I've seen some of your videos where you, you know, you sort of
see something that wigs you out, but what happens?
How do you do that? And if you have a bunch of
people with you, what do you do? That's actually the, one of the
hardest things I think is when you have like 20 people with you
who are expecting you to be this really calm storyteller, You
know, who's leading them through this place that you're very
familiar with. And then something happens and
you have to not only keep yourself calm, but also keep
them calm. And that's one of the the harder
things to do. I think at this point in my
career, I've just been doing it for so long and I'm so excited
by the prospect of activity that I look forward to it every time
I go to work. So I get like giggly more than
anything. I get really excitable and I try
to bring my groups in with me into that.
That feeling to try to, to, you know, scary is fun and, and
it's, it's OK to be afraid a little bit, but I think it's
more exciting when you're really curious and really passionate
really about it. Where's your favorite places to
go? Definitely the pioneer village
that I often do all my tours at. It's just so contained in such a
big city. It it feels very quiet.
It feels very calm. And then you've got all these
wild hauntings, like every building is haunted by a
different ghost with different stories.
Why? What?
What's? Give us some history here.
Give it. Oh man, OK.
Give us your Toronto tour like the give us the quick version of
like what is happening in these place that these ghosts like
hanging out in this village. So I think it's a museum by day
and then we do like our darker stuff at night.
I say darker, but you know, it's ghosts and it's a collection of
buildings from around Ontario, our province, that we're all
from about the 1940s to 19, sorry, not 1918.
Eighteen 40s to about 1890s. And they all showcase different
things. So like, there's a general
store, there's a tinsmith, there's people's houses, there's
a hotel. So the buildings had a history
before they came to the village in the 1960s, and I think that's
maybe why they're so haunted. Is there places that were likely
haunted before they arrived? And then their new location has
just allowed the haunting to thrive, especially with us going
in and trying to talk to them all the time.
So when you say that it's allowed them to thrive, what
does that, what does that mean? It's a reenacting village, so
they actively pretend like it's 1867.
So they're in like the costumes, they turn butter, they do
farming and all of that stuff. And I think that that has this
way of just staying like lightly in tune with the history of the
building and the ghost stories that might have happened there.
And you think that keeps them? All right, Well, then that leads
to the question I'd like to ask all our guests because it's
perfect. If you think that staying in the
time period somehow energizes them or keeps them there or more
active, what is it? Spooky.
What do you think spirits are? That is like the hardest
question ever. Well, that's what.
We're all doing here. What are we doing here?
I mean, it's you know, right, We're trying to figure it out,
but what do you think they are that that keeps you going?
What is it? What?
It doesn't matter if you know it's, you have to have some idea
of what you think it is that you're.
Doing Yeah, I I absolutely do. And I think, you know, we could.
Get into the. Really weird parts of it.
Let's do it, but first tell me what it is like.
What is that thing? So I think it's a combination of
really long lasting emotion or like emotional energy in a
sense. So that's, you know, you see a
lot of places where there was certain kinds of specific
attachments, whether it was a home that somebody cared about
deeply or somewhere there was a traumatic incident that let out
that kind of energy. I think that places kind of
contain that they hold on to that.
And then the other side of it is I'm not actually sure that
ghosts are always dead people. I think sometimes we have this
psychological ability to create our own ghosts and interact with
them. There are experiments that have
been done and continue to be done about this.
That's the. Phillips experiment.
I was about to say I'm from the city that that happened in, so
it's one of my favorite places. That's like a famous, very
famous, sort of. Right, absolutely.
And and you know, they did it right.
They were able to essentially talk to a ghost they had
created. So I think when we know
something about a a place, a a location, and we go in with that
intention, we are partially responsible for that haunting.
Well, so I'm gonna spit back what you just said in a
different. Yeah, it was long winded.
No, no, 'cause it, it speaks, John.
I think it speaks a lot to it's very similar to say, 'cause 1
you say emotion. Now when I hear emotion, that's
clearly in the mind. That's, that's how you know,
whatever it is, that's a consciousness, that's it.
That's we don't really know how the mind works.
And then you say it's, it's, you know, emotion in our energy.
Well, we do have energy. And, you know, look, John's
theory is that spirits are memories attached to our, the
energy and that is released 'cause it can't, it has to go
somewhere when people pass. So you're very similar, you have
a very similar philosophy on what spirits are.
That's not you. Look, some people come out and
they're like, they think it's a soul.
They think it's, you know, it's more religious, you know, like
we got dipped by God or something.
And then it's like whatever that is, right?
And then but that's, you know, I mean, more power to I don't know
if they're right yet. I mean, I hope I I don't hope.
I really don't want to know just yet that answer.
You know, the real, the real question is what kind of dip we
talking about? Are we talking about like, you
know, some good, some good dip that, you know, my wife is
making? Or are we talking about the dip
going, you know, back to Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
You know I don't. Know, I don't know do we lose
spook Oh there. You.
No. Yeah, she's not.
So, you know, the, there's that I think a very similar
philosophies on what, on what spirits are in, in that respect.
And I think that, you know, now the other thing you were talking
about, it's not is it manifestations by people or not?
You know, I spoke to there, there's certain theories, unlike
the difference between spirits or apparitions versus hauntings
where like that energy, we can release that energy at any time
and it becomes an imprint there, which it's not it's just a
recording, right? It just is the same thing.
Have you ever experienced something that just it's
repetitive as opposed to, you know, like it's, it's just, it's
always gonna happen. Like up it's 3:00, it's 3:00.
She's gonna, this ghost is gonna use the bathroom.
You know it's. Yeah, I've definitely
experienced a number of of those kinds of hauntings, residual
hauntings. One of the coolest ones I think
I've ever experienced was one that no one even died.
And that one is hard to explain to people that it was a
haunting, but the energy that was left behind was from
survival. It was from this moment of pure
joy. These prisoners escaped this
Fort and they left with their lives.
They were never apprehended again.
And one night I was there and I heard the the men shouting and
it was this unbridled like joy, this literally shouting that you
survived something and made it out alive and, and but they
didn't die it. Wasn't a.
It wasn't a. Dead person or a ghost
necessarily. Right, Spooky.
Monkey, how long ago was that? Are they like like they they
escaped? What do you mean by that?
Like they didn't die on the property, they died like
elsewhere or are they still alive?
Much later, this happened in the 1840s.
So they're dead now. It's at an old sport, absolutely
dead now, yes. So that begs the question, the
haunting that I experienced, was it truly that imprint of that
joyous moment or did after they pass come back to the moment of
the most joy they ever had? Who knows?
Well. It's, it's like the episode,
it's like when I talk to Professor Auerbach, you know,
like Lloyd Auerbach. And he was telling me about the
the, the imprint of a couple having sex in this person's
house, but they were still alive.
He went and found the previous owners and said they're
experiencing something at this time every night.
And it was like the couple freaked out because they had a
little thing that they like to do every night at that time.
And they left a spectral sex tape in their old apartment.
So it's. Like.
That sort of that sort of thing, you know, that happens.
But yeah, but anyway, right, that could have been such a big
moment. It could big joyous moment that
the energy of of the group even could have.
Maybe that is something to that there.
I lean towards this theory more than most.
I I mean, I know I'm biased cause of him, but it's still
starting to feel from others. Energy is always a thing, you
know, that memory and and consciousness is always a thing.
And we don't know what those answers are, right?
I mean, it just seems to fall a lot into the into that space.
How long have you been on TikTok?
Spooky? How long you been?
2021 I think is when I started. So like a lot of people.
Like, like a lot of people, the pandemic, we were bored, right?
Yeah. Anyways, by accident I I never
expected to to do anything like what I do now.
Well, I, I, I love finding that like, you know, building like a
paranormal community and, and on TikTok and it is a big social
and you have a hell of a following, which is really quite
something then. And I believe it's because of
the fun and the joy that you bring to it, you know, and do
you know, what do you notice about your community?
Do you do lives or do you just drop videos or how do you, how
did you build, how did you build this?
And what do you, what kind of reactions are you getting from
people in your, from what you deliver?
I'll admit I'm not as on it as I feel like I probably should be,
especially with, you know, people actually interested in
what you're doing. It all happened by accident.
I had one video go mega viral overnight, millions of views
overnight. And that just started this kind
of idea in my mind like, oh, wow, people actually wanna hear
about this? I thought it was just me and my
tiny weird corner of the universe.
And so it's mostly just videos. I do want to, you know, work on,
on getting better, but with it. What I have noticed though, and
what is really, really impactful for me is people messaging me,
whether by e-mail or in DM, saying things like I've changed
their entire perspective. Just the idea that I can shift
someone from being absolutely terrified of something they're
experiencing even or have experienced, and make it
something more gentle for them or empowering in some way, that
that will never get old, I don't think.
That's wild, right? Spooky what?
What is your what? Like, what's the first thing
that comes to mind when I ask you your favorite tour?
Because you said you do these, you do these tours, you know,
nightly and whatnot. So you know, you're doing it
over and over at the same spots and whatnot.
What is your most favorite? Not scary, not, you know, like
crate, like just your favorite overall thing that's happened
while giving one of these awesome tours.
Oh I love that question. I have so many that are so, so
fun. I I don't think I'll ever be
able to beat Halloween night. I believe it was two years ago.
And part of I think why the story is so fun to me is that it
happened on Halloween night. Like that's just so cliche,
right? You know, you tell that story to
somebody else and they're like, oh, sure, it happened on
Halloween, but it was a series of events that had happened.
We went to do one of my favorite experiments, the Estes method,
and we're going. To talk about that with you in a
second and I told you we were. I'm excited.
As we got into the session, this woman in my group had a
Nosebleed immediately, and this is like almost two hours into
our night, so you know, it was weird to happen at this specific
time. Her nose starts bleeding.
The receiver starts getting really interesting stuff.
Someone else in the group starts hearing footsteps above us on
the first floor of this building.
We go look. We don't see or hear anything.
There's no one there. Can't explain it.
Come back down. We hear it again.
This time it's running, like actively running footsteps.
So we run back upstairs and we're standing in this hallway
watching an empty hallway and hearing footsteps run towards
us. Turn around, run back towards
the door, turn around, come back towards.
It's like a back and forth and I cannot explain that.
We'll never be able to explain that.
I had four different people with me witnessing it as well as
people downstairs doing other things.
Eventually I was like, we, we have to end our night.
I don't know what to do. Like it's still going.
So we said our goodbyes. We went downstairs.
I pulled the receiver out of the Estes method and the Nosebleed
in the group stopped at the minute I pulled someone out.
First of all, if I had heard footsteps, you would have one of
those sets of footsteps. Running would have been my own.
We could have narrowed it down like at least one is this guy
who's leaving. He's like out the door.
Out the door. Straight out the door.
All right. I mean, that is all right.
That's interesting. Now, the those was the
nosebleeder, the person with the blinds, the blindfold on in the
head. No, this is just a witness.
Yeah, just someone else in the group.
All right, listen, let's get into the Estes method for two
minutes 'cause I do see that in your feet a lot.
Yeah, yeah, Gary. 'S the thing and I'm not, I'm
not goofing on it. Maybe I am a little, but it's
like I just, it's mainly because I don't understand it and I want
people to explain it 'cause it's all right.
You got the headphones on, you got the blinders on.
You're supposed to be, you know, sound and sight deprivated from
the rest. It's plugged into the spirit
box, right? I got this.
OK, you plug it in there now. Then the other person asks the
question and this person can't. The person who's covered up
can't hear anything correct, can't hear you anyway.
But then she should just start talking when it hears it.
Why? Why do I want to hear from that
person and not hear from Why am I adding a middleman?
Why do I not want to just hear from the ghost?
What is? Why do we do it?
Really wonderful question. Super question.
Great question. I think that there's too much of
an outsider bias that happens when the person listening for
the answer is also participating in the asking of the questions.
You psychologically will anticipate an answer.
If I ask the ghost what's your favorite color?
The whole group, they're listening to hear a color on the
spirit box for listening out loud.
So by having that one person who cannot hear the questions and
all they're doing is saying what they're what they're hearing in
the radio or the spirit box, when you get that answer that
lines up, you know that it's it's maybe more than coincidence
because it's answering your question.
God damn it John, that might be the best answer I've heard for.
That 100% because I can back up, I can.
That's not it avoids pareidolia. I can back so on on.
Right, that's when you're fighting.
I what, what What they're fighting is audio pareidolia,
which. It really is.
That is, and it's, it's, it's what listen, pareidolia is the
bane of the paranormal. No matter how you doing, whether
you're investigating, whether you're documenting, it is the
worst. It was horrible back when in in
2021-2022 when the phones weren't as good as they are now.
And you can even go back and watch old streams if you save
them. How pixelated backgrounds were,
how groggy the sound was. And people even now, even now I,
I use iPhone sixteens for the strings.
Even now, people will hear things that are not being said.
Why? Because they want to hear it.
And it's, it's a pareidolia and it's, it's, it's a horrible when
it happens. So that's a.
That's a great answer. That is a great answer and I
wasn't even expecting that answer, but that is a great
that's. A great answer.
That's not the only reason either.
You got another reason I would put it.
By your head. But go ahead, what's another
reason I'm I'm buying that? Reason I I really, I think it's,
it's truly one of the coolest experiments that's come out in a
really long time in the paranormal field.
What's another? Reason.
Another reason is that there's a channeling aspect to it, and
this is the maybe more woo woo side of the answer.
We were expecting this one. Yeah.
This is like, yeah. But let me unwoo woo it.
Let me unwoo woo a little bit. It's that mumbo.
Jumbo. It's, it's almost like going
into a trance, right? So you've got this like constant
noise. You can put yourself into a
trance very easily with static sound, white noise, the spirit
box and having that noise directly in your ears with your
eyes. You know your senses removed in
terms of sight and and other sound.
You really, really give in to that rhythm.
They're like. Right.
So it's just. Constant and then you start to
kind of nod off a little bit. There's there's that.
And so the inventors of the method have said that it's
almost like you get out of your own way.
And then is there a channeling aspect?
I'm sure can't prove it right, but that trance does seem to be
what allows you to have more genuine conversation responses.
When I do the Estiz method, I do it for an hour or more.
And that's not something that's easy to show on on video 'cause
it gets boring at a lot of moments, right?
But as you get to that hour long mark, it's the remarkable stuff
starts to happen. You start to get incredibly
direct responses. There are times I've said things
that I know I didn't hear, but that were a direct answer with
accurate details. Where did I get it from?
How did I get it from the the spirit box if I didn't even hear
it right? So, you know, you kind of have
to look at that side of it as well.
I guess for me, first of all, I like your first answer better.
I just did cuz it makes it like that makes very clear sense
because it's OK, I could see it. I think what I would also like,
and it's not because I'm a, I wouldn't say I'm, I come look,
this whole podcast, this whole thing that we're doing, we come
from a place of believing first. I, I'm not, I'm, I'm actually
not interested in debunking. I think it's on fun.
I'd rather believe it. And then, you know, yeah,
there's 110 reasons why it might not be the thing because what
we're talking about ghosts, you know what I mean?
So yeah, who knows what's happening?
So let's come from a place of curiosity, right?
I want to just, you know, just stay curious about it.
So what I would like to see though, in an s s method is why
not do a splitter so that you're recording the sound, you know,
the, the sound box, the spirit box, and so you can play it back
later and compare. I would I would like to hear the
comparison. So of both of those things, on
that note, I have figured out how to hook up my digital
recorder to the spirit box so that you can record the direct
output from the spirit box and not have it be like a microphone
or, you know, grainy. So it's like the actual pure
channel from the spirit box. Yeah.
And then you could sync it up with the actual answers.
Have I done that experiment yet? I need to find someone to do it
with me. Get on it cuz I want to watch
it. I want.
To see. Get on that.
That is something I will watch. For sure 100.
Percent because I think that is the that puts it look, when I
first saw it, my belief of it was that the the reason those
Nets did it in the hotel was for a visual because they were
making the documentary and it looks fun, right?
Like it's visually interesting. You got somebody in the like,
the thing, they're wrapped up and it's just like, you know,
and then so much. What are they?
Doing yeah, it's spooky stuff and it's like, you know, the
whole thing, but then I just didn't get it.
But God damn if that paranormal if that pareidolia answer isn't
a great, really great reason to try it to see, to cut out.
It blows your mind. When it works, it blows your
mind. But to rule out that right, the
the idea that you're putting the thought into their head to hear
it ahead of time, that all right.
Which happens all the time. No.
Absolutely. Literally happens all the time.
That that that's what is. It's one of the biggest things
that I that I battle with when you know, live streaming my
documentation is people hearing things that aren't being said
and then they have a hard time understanding, Hey, listen,
you're getting this second hand regardless, you're getting this
second hand. I'm getting it first hand.
I'm hearing it and and another way that translates to was like
every any low voices will translate to the people watching
as burps. They're like, oh, walking for
for about a year. I kept getting hit with the same
question. John, why is that spirit
burping? Why is that spirit burping?
And then all of a sudden it dawned on me.
Wait a minute. The everyone's asking why the
spirits burping right after I just heard a low voice.
Oh, that's translating to you guys as a burp instead of, you
know, leave here now, John, you know, like something like that.
And it's, it's, it's wild. Well, yeah, we're getting, you
know, we get some weird, you know, so I don't know how often
you watch John. John is predominantly live all
of his. Stuff is live.
I do watch John. So he's he's all live and and we
did an episode we just dropped about Buck out Rd. where he goes
all the time. And there was a part of the
interview where he turns because he's like, I just heard a
child's voice. And then we listened back and I
and I isolated his audio. And you know what we all heard
what I heard on there was like as if you were wearing a mic and
you rub it. It was like A and then he turns
like it's like A and he turns that he he's telling me.
I just heard a child say my name.
But on the but what we recorded was a sound and you know, that's
real. We make a bit out of it in the
episode. I'm not going to spoil it for
anybody who hasn't watched it yet.
So it's kind of fun, But but the the sound was is 100% real and
strange. And he doesn't wear a mic.
I mean, he's barely wearing a shirt.
So it's like there's definitely no mic on there.
It's a ripped T-shirt he's got on.
So it just becomes it's weird, right, How people, I don't know
what's going on in his head to die.
I I think he's a witch of some kind.
The way he gets what he gets, you know, a medium of of I think
he I think he does have superpowers in in this ghost
space to get what he gets. But I do find that interesting
that people hear things a different way and it can and
that that leads to a whole other art talk about frequency that
we've heard and vibration that we get into with a lot of people
too. That'll be, you know, in as I'm
learning about this stuff. Spooky.
How do you keep it? Because you do have a very fun,
light hearted tone to our to your, to your feet and to how
you tell these stories, which I love.
I I like it. I I'm a big fan of that.
I like, let's take the piss out of this a little bit, you know,
like just let's just have some fun.
How do you keep it that way? Have you ever been scared and
been like, I can't use this, it's too scary or I have to
figure out how to turn it so it's not scary?
Luckily that hasn't happened to me.
I, I guess I, I find the more silly you are with the spirits,
the more silly they're right back.
And so, you know, when you approach it with the silliness
in this light hearted, fun, playful energy, it's hard to get
something really terrifying. I find I've had moments where I
wasn't actively looking for something and something
unsettling or spooky happened. And those moments, you know,
sometimes, yeah, I get a little scared.
I jump, I startles me. I'm definitely not as easy to
scare as I think I was, you know, 10 years ago.
John, you probably feel the same way.
Like, you know, things happen to you all the time.
It just gets fun. You're just like, awesome.
Hey, you're here. I get scared constantly.
Do you like horror movies or you're like a horror movie?
I do. I do.
I love horror movies. I won't.
Maybe that's what it is. No, I mean, I find that after I
watch a horror movie, I'm exhausted from being like tense
and I just did a workout like the whole time.
It's awful. And my wife will film me
secretly because I grabbed my dog and I'm like, you know, just
holding my dog, terrified of the whole thing.
And it's just it's the absolute worst.
The greatest jump scare in history is a total side point.
By the way, there was a Netflix, you know, that Netflix series.
I think it was The Haunting at Hill House or something with the
bed neck lady. Right.
Is that the one about the house in Connecticut?
No, I don't. I don't know where.
It was second one I think. That might have been the second
one. The first one.
The first one is wonderful and there's like a bent the bent
neck lady ghost, right? It's dude.
It is. There is an episode in the
middle. I don't even remember which one,
and I wouldn't want to tell anybody to spoil it.
That has the absolute greatest jump scare that I've I I might
have jumped across the room. It jumped.
It was so bad, if you think about it, I, I don't know, I
don't want to spoil it for people, but you know, fuck the
people. It's in a car.
It happens in a car and it's like it is unbelievable and you
just, it is so unexpected anyway.
Don't you love it like you know you're after?
It and you're like, I'm just I can't then I'm tired.
You know what I mean? I just don't want to deal with
it. What else can I ask you here?
It's have you found a difference in well, here's the question, do
you ever get out of Canada? Do you go other places and you
know, like it seems like you like historical spots.
Where have you, have you ever gotten a chance that's really
different from your, you know, your regular haunts?
You know, I haven't. And I think that's really what
I'm looking for. I think I'm, I'm starting to get
to this point where I'm like, I'm, I'm too accustomed to my
own hauntings. I'm, they're too predictable in
a way. Sometimes I want to go somewhere
I don't know anything about that's just totally out of my
comfort zone. That's that's kind of my next
goal, I guess for, for investigating is finding
somewhere that'll get me. I want I want to be gotten
again. I want to go back to, you know,
the early days. Be careful what you wish for,
Spooky. I don't know if you want.
To be. I'm talking about there.
We're talking about ghosts, man. Let's see.
Does anybody have any questions in the chat?
Let's jump to the chat. We are live.
I can let. Yeah, I can look and see what's
going on here. Let's.
One day I'll be able to read the chat.
So yeah, you'd have to go into like all the different things,
yeah. You gotta get off your phone.
Yeah cuz I'm all over, right? I'm on wide we're simulcast in
like 4 different spots and it pulls them all into one place
except for TikTok, which I'm looking at TikTok too.
That's why you see my eyes looking like this.
It's not that I'm ignoring you. You're trying to be rude.
What do we got here? What movie again?
I was talking about I think it's the haunting of Hill House.
It's a Netflix series that I was talking about some people on on
the TikTok feed would love for you to go to on some of John's
haunts, you know, to see like yeah, cuz he's got John's got
some nasty ghosts there's. Some I want them.
Bring me to your nasty ghosts, John.
The nasty ghosts. So I got some nasty ones and
whatever your definition of nasty is, I got it.
You know, it's just, it's just the way it is here.
I got some good ones too though. Hey, good people.
Don't forget about those good spirits.
Right. They're people who's got some
questions. Anybody got questions about
them? Spooky.
We got some sweetheart spirits. Let's I always like the nice
one. I mean, you know, obviously it's
a. Nice, We like to have.
Conversations, but I like the ones that are like there to
interact also. Yeah, like Spooky, the best the
conversations that I have ever had have been been have been
with pleasant spirits. Now, content wise, people want
more dark. You know, they always, they
remember the dark more. They want the darker stuff.
But listen, I've been doing this for a while and I've seen people
in the paranormal rise and fall. People get into it and then drop
off. And the reason is they submerge
themselves in that darkness, you know, and that negative
headspace and it, it, it affects people, you know, So I like, I
like best of both worlds. Give me the sweet spirit that's
going to say that they, they don't mind me hanging out there
and, you know, going to talk to me and then give me the spirit
that's going to tell me to go fuck myself.
You know, I'm cool with I'm cool with it all, so.
Spooky what? Here's some questions.
What what devices do you used when you investigate?
Like what is your go to? I mean spear box I obviously I
really like the R.E.M. pod. I know it's very easily debunk
able, but I do my best to keep all of the potential triggers
out of the environment. A good old digital recorder.
I think a lot of the time because I deal with historic
heritage sites, I like the old school methods.
I try not to go too, too much on the gear and the equipment
because I kind of worry sometimes it scares them a
little bit like if they're not too ghost the the spirits.
Yeah, like if they're. Easily scared, by the way.
From the 18. Hundreds how, but they are.
You know, lights. And beeps and stuff like that,
you know, might confuse them. So I'm actually working on
developing a couple of my own tools as well to try to limit
strange things like beeping and and lights.
Spooky, do you? These are all questions from the
chat. Spooky, do you?
Yeah. Do you always go alone or do you
usually go with someone? I try to go with someone and
it's not for the reason you probably imagine.
It's not because I'm scared. It's actually cuz I don't trust
myself enough to have an experience and like be able to
fully say that was 100% an experience I had.
So having a witness is, is always what I want.
But I I do go alone sometimes, you know, sometimes you don't
have somebody to go with you. Have you ever had a?
Here's another one from Mama Lisa.
Have you ever had a physical experience?
Like has have you ever been touched or physical?
Tell us about. That yeah, yeah, I've been
touched. I've been touched just like a
casual, you know, like tap on the shoulder or, you know,
tugging on a jacket or pants or something like that.
But one of the most amazing ones that I will never forget is I
was about to fall backwards down a staircase and literally 2
hands on my shoulders like full 10 fingers all hand pushed me up
right and and definitely saved me from cracking my head open.
That's the difference between Canadian ghosts and US ghosts.
I'm very kind 100. Percent. 100% that's a Canadian
ghost and. He was like.
You are a ghost over here. Would be like I was just
listening to Stark I. See you, Stark.
Yeah, it's that's definitely a Canadian ghost, right?
I think for us, we would want the pratfall and the laugh,
Yeah, You know, cuz if you don't get hurt, it's funny.
If you got hurt, it's tragedy. I went on tour so I'm glad it
didn't come to that cuz I could have traumatized like 15 people.
Sure, that's interesting. So wait, can you tell us a
little about what you think you're trying to make to catch
ghosts? Yeah, I'm essentially building
a, a R.E.M. pod, I guess, that is going to function as a slight
proximity sensor, but more so capacitive touch sensor.
So if something comes in contact with an object specifically I
want to be able to hook it up to different objects and use those
objects as a trigger for the spirit.
So an object that might be kind of mundane in their lives, you
know, a cookware or a plate, something that can be connected
to the device in another room so that it's not interfering
immediately in the room that the activity is happening in.
I'm also building similarly a my brother who did his master's in
capacitive touch and stained glass.
We're building a stained glass panel that depending on where it
gets touched, it might have a small light go off.
Because I think art might intrigue a spirit, and they'll
want to, like, touch it. All right, so, and I'm sorry,
it's called what? What kind of touch it's?
Capacitive touch. Capacitive touch.
So it's, so basically you're doing something where it's like,
I'm just explaining it from really, I'm explaining it for
myself slowly. Yeah.
So I can understand what's happening.
You're it's, it's got whatever sort of wires or sensors on it
so that if it is, it feels, I guess a physical touch or heats
or what, what would, what defines a touch from a spirit to
set it off that you're trying? To do so, that's like.
Could a person touch? It could go off, yeah, 100%.
Because what it is is it's like the, you know, I'm not a sciency
person. So it's like the electrodes or
whatever coming out of your fingertips.
Like when you touch that, it completes the circuit.
And so by completing the circuit, then the light goes
off, the alarm goes off, Right. OK.
The the question is, does it work the same with a ghost?
And so that's, you know, you'd have to go through all of the
testing and stuff. It seems like maybe because the
R.E.M. Pod works similarly, but it has
to be in the testing phase to say anything more about that
part. That's.
So is it gonna be like like 2 alligator clips coming out?
Yeah. One on the object and then
where's the other? The other alligator clip is
gonna be on something for the spirits to touch or?
Yeah. So it'll all kind of.
So it's gonna be. Don't get kinky dude, don't.
Get kinky it's like a box with, you know, toggle switches cuz
why not and then just get. Kinky, you know.
Keep it clean. It's still after hours yet.
Yeah, there's gonna be an alligator clip going to the
object itself and then to potentially a copper plate as
well, but then to the electronics on the inside, OK.
Cool. Here's here's a good question
that came in and and a good standard one for people who do
what you what you both do. Spooky.
How do you keep entities from attaching to you?
Or do you believe in attachment? Do you believe that that can
happen? I, I don't believe in it the way
that I think is like public, public understood, publicly
understood or thought of. I think that, you know, anything
can want to attach to you if you especially are admitting like a
really nice energy or whatever. But I also am a firm believer
that at least in my interaction, spirits are a lot more aware
than we realize. And I don't think they want to
go with you anywhere. Like a lot of the time I think
that they're OK with where they are AT and if they didn't want
to be there, they would just leave the actual document in
cases of attachments. There's, there's not many.
There's very, very few. It's, it's a bit of a tricky
thing to discuss cuz some people really believe it and some
people have had experiences where they're like, I had one.
And I'm not gonna ever deny somebody those experiences, but
I I think they're a lot more rare than people make them out
to be. Well, that and that.
And when you think about it, it's like, you know, relative to
what, Right. Like, think about relative to
what attachment, OK. Are you talking about something
actually sinking its teeth into you and not letting go or
something that might have followed you from the grocery
store into, you know, a bookstore, You know, and like
you said, spirits, you know, I agree with that.
Spirits want to go where they're going to go.
They stay where they want to stay.
Sometimes they get a little confused, sometimes they
unconfused themselves. But regardless, it's, it's
literally that they, they do what they want, right?
Essentially. So yeah, like I the whole
attachment thing, people are so stuck on attachments.
They really are. Like, yeah, yeah, no, I was just
gonna say sorry. I think there's, with
attachments, it's a lot more psychological than than
paranormal. I think that if you go in,
especially to a location where maybe there's a more aggressive
spirit and you know that you're gonna expect to have a bad time.
You're gonna think about, oh, I don't want this attached to me.
You're gonna get scared. You're gonna get in your head.
Things are gonna happen. You're gonna go, Oh my gosh,
it's the attachment. But at what point did you
actually prove that it was, you know, like, are you looking into
that at all? Are you trying to figure out
what what is happening or are you just jumping to that
conclusion because you know you were in a scary spot?
And that goes back to what we, you know, kind of what we
started about or we mentioned when we started, like are you
manifesting? Are you the architect of your
own nightmare in the word way, right?
I mean, is it? That 100%.
Are are you hearing yourself fucking pareidolia for the
goddamn SDS method? I'm so glad to have been part of
this moment. This like mind opening.
So what's really interesting about like, like the whole like
middleman thing and you know, Gary, like why, why, why, why
would somebody do that? And Perry Paradilia being a
great answer for that in my documentation, I never do it.
I stay away from the method because I try to do
documentation that everybody can see in here, regardless if
they're seeing and hearing wrong, it's still part of the
data coming in, right? And, you know, let's be real in,
in, in the, in 2025, you know, in this social media age that we
are in, because we are in peak social media, social media age.
Now there are many people out there that oh, s s, you know,
blah, blah, blah, They do that. They put, they get everything
going. And what they are saying is just
complete horseshit. You know, and a lot of, and a
lot of people don't like to say it, but it's the truth.
You know, now you know where you're coming from.
You're you're, you're a shining example of if you're going to do
the method, do it right. So, you know, that's, that's
awesome. I want it.
I expect to see that recording. I want to see you.
Do that absolutely 100%. I want to see that split because
that's. Oh, I'm so intrigued.
I'm so intrigued because I want to see at what point is it
something that actually was heard or like, was it your brain
filling in a gap? Was it you completing a word
that came through only half a word?
I I from a investigation perspective, I want to see that
difference. So do I.
I'm fast now. It's like now I'm meant to no,
you gotta try it, God damn it. That's the other thing about the
method, I think, that it's hard to watch someone do it and fully
believe, especially on social media, you know, like it could
totally be scripted. You have no idea.
Trying it yourself changes everything.
When you have that session where you're like, I don't even
remember what I was saying and it was half accurate, you know,
are more than half accurate, those are the incredible
sessions that that make you wonder what's happening.
Spooky. This has been incredibly fun.
I am. So glad.
You agreed to come on. Where do people find you?
Do I have? Let me.
Let's make sure we tell the good people where to find you.
Is it spooky dot scoundrel? Spooky dot Scoundrel, TikTok
and. YouTube right there I just put
it up on the board. Hopefully you guys can see it
spooky dot schedule oh wait, it's a little too small here for
this. Let me shrink this a little so
the folks can see the name. Put it up again for everybody
who didn't catch it the first time.
There you go at spooky dot schedule on TikTok, Instagram.
Not Instagram. Not.
Instagram sorry. YouTube YouTube TikTok spooky
dot schedule. And it's really fun.
Spooky's got it. Yeah, right.
Yeah, I just made that up. Spooky's got a great feed.
They're very fun stories and they have a great way of telling
those stories, so I encourage you all to follow Spooky
Scoundrel 'cause it was great and thank you so much.
This was a real pleasure. Thank.
You awesome. Thanks for having me.
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gonna brag about you and talk about you a little more behind
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It was a real pleasure. It really was.
It it was great. If you ever want to chat again,
even off cameras, I can't get enough talking about ghosts we
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Have a good night. Bye.
Thank you all.
Right. They gave listen, they gave you
a great answer that. Was a great answer dude.
That was a great answer. They gave you a great answer.
That I mean, I, I saw a little, I saw it in little in your face
too, that that was a good. Answer because, because that's
the answer. Because you know what?
You know what the worst part about how great you want to
know, the worst part about how great that answer is, is that
the 2 Dicks like us have been talking about it for so long and
we didn't think of that as a possible answer.
We never said it out loud. But it's like that's of course
that makes total sense. Like you, you get rid of the
bias that puts in your head of what you want to hear.
The only thing is what you're doing is you're trading that
biased for the wait a minute or or you know, is that person full
of shit? Well, that's today.
Well, we don't know, right? You have to, but that's.
The only thing it's got to be someone you trust.
You trust, right? You have to go at it and think.
Gotta be somebody. Come at it from a place of
belief, right? If you come at it from a place
of belief and you're and you, let's assume everyone's, you
know, being on the up and up, then that's why you're then it's
then you're doing it right. But if it's just like somebody
yelling out words, you know, what can I do?
You know what? There's, what can I do?
I, I can't, I can't say if they're lying or not.
You know, I, I don't know what to, how to answer that.
You know, if they're faking it, so it goes.
But that was a great answer. Yeah, yeah.
Spooky schedule, everybody. Wonderful.
Well, guys, today is Thursday, September 4th.
On Tuesday, September 9th, we have our interview with Amy
Bulaski from the Bulaski Experience.
Is that right? Do you have the date?
Am I sure? Is it the Bulaski method or the
Bulaski experience? Hold on.
I thought it was the Bulaski's experience.
Yes, the bulaski experience Amy Bulaski, she is one of the most
popular and highly rated social media psychic mediums out there.
She's absolutely wonderful and her perspective on spirits and
communicating with spirits using and, and the idea of Voxi
approved frequency and vibration.
Again, going back to this Hermetic, Hermetic principles of
vibration, this Kabalian sort of belief, which I don't know if
she even recognized or follows. I think that's just, it's just a
natural frequency for her 'cause I, when I brought it up, she
sounded like she'd never read about it.
But it's still, which sort of makes it feel even more legit,
right? When someone's doing something
that they didn't know was a thing or didn't realize was.
Yeah, they're just, yeah, they're doing it just naturally.
You know, just naturally she's wonderful and she's guys.
She has had four near death experiences.
She has a slew of medical issues that have strengthened her
connection to spirit. It's a whole different way to
look at things. She's a wonderful guy.
She's a big personality on online.
I mean, you'll find her on TikTok at the Pulaski.
I mean, she's got like 3 1/2, almost three and a half million
followers. I mean, she's huge and we are
very lucky to have her. We are very lucky to have spooky
scoundrel today. We have a lot of good guests
coming up. We've got who are some of the
others? Oh, after, after Pulaski, we've
got we're going to a little week of past life regression.
I know that was a lot for people.
They really wanted us to get into that and like get into
that. That's a whole other mind F
that's like a whole other thing past life regression.
And then we've got some we've got, Oh, I got the executive
producer of one of the ghost adventure shows House calls is
going to be on. If you guys like those ghost
shows talks about, you know a little more behind the scenes on
that stuff. Yeah, which is awesome.
And we've got a couple more executive producers coming on to
who've produced some of your favorite shows, you know, from
Skinwalker Ranch to he was even producer on Ghost Hunters the
first season, you know, the original so.
And that, and that's, that's just so wild because it's a,
it's a, it's a window. It's, it's a site and knowledge
that normally isn't presented in the, in the paranormal.
You know, we're gonna, we're gonna hear from the people that
are essentially producing the content.
Yeah, which is why there's there's so much love hate of
that content, right. You know, because it's fake,
it's TV, it's fake, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, it's still. It's a great dive, guys.
I'm telling you, it's a great. It's it's it's.
So we got a lot of good stuff coming up.
Keep listening, keep watching. What else can I tell you?
Good people stay curious for Christ's sake.
We have a good thing going here. And it's we want you to keep
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Yeah, that's it. That's all I got for us today,
man. Awesome.
Do you have anything you wanted? A good one, people.
No, no, nothing at all, other than the fact that you guys are
awesome. Stay curious and, you know, make
sure you guys catch up when you can.
A lot of episodes, a lot to catch up on.
Yeah, man, we're having a lot of fun.
And we've it's we're gonna we're gonna try to close out the air.
Oh, and if you haven't noticed, on the weeks that we don't drop
a brand new episode, we've been going back and dropping those
episodes that never had video with video.
With video. Bigger.
Longer, less cut. There's still some edits in it.
There's still some edits in it, but they are like, you know, I
dropped the full interview with Lloyd.
I dropped, we're going about to drop episode one, just twice as
long. My initial interview with John,
I'm doing, I'm going to drop the full reading that Kathy gave me
from episode 6. So we're going to, there's a lot
of fun, you know, with some back story and some things now that
we're, you know, we're hitting. So check it out, keep following.
But if you're going to admit, if you're not subscribed, you're
not going to see these announcements and these drops.
So that's it. John, this is a good one here.
Gary, awesome man, everybody. Thank you.
Thanks so much folks.