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Medically speaking, and I think 
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you're, I think the correct word
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Welcome to Splintered Spirits, 
the podcast hosted by me, Gary 

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and my nephew John Santa from 
Santa Paranormal, where we try 

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to answer the question, what are
spirits? 

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Today's guest is someone who's 
been to the edge and back not 

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once, not twice, but 4 * 4 near 
death experiences. 

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I'm talking about the Pulaski 
psychic medium. 

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Amy Bulaski has survived cancer 
as a child, a traumatic 

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childbirth, and two intense 
surgical emergencies due to a 

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rare medical condition. 
Each near death experience 

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expanded her connection to the 
other side, sharpening her 

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ability to hear, see, and feel 
spirits. 

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Through the Pulaski experience, 
Amy teaches that spirit 

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communication is all about 
frequency tuning in more so than

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reaching out. 
She's here to talk with us about

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what death taught her, how 
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spirit world, and what it really
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Amy shares stories about love, 
death, and suicide, so let that 

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be a warning for those easily 
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We're going to get into it all. 
Amy is a true survivor with a 

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spirit stronger than anything 
breaking through from the other 

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side. 
We are lucky to have her on the 

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podcast. 
Let's dive into the 

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conversation. 
I want to tell you really 

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quickly, Amy, how I discovered 
you because I'm new to this 

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whole paranormal world. 
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I got into this with John. 
This is my nephew. 

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And. 
Oh, hi, nephew. 

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Yeah, I know people. 
I tell people I have a nephew in

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the paranormal. 
I think it's a little kid. 

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And, like, no, he's no kid. 
He's an adult person. 

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He's he's an adult person and 
he's got a big tick Tock follow.

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Sometimes I'm an adult person. 
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there's a difference between 
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Right. 
Big kid right here. 

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That's it. 
It's exactly so, you know, and 

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I'm a, I'm a producer in LA, so 
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try to figure out how to make a 
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guy and what he does. 
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like, let's start with the 
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communication and what we do. 
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several interviews with like 
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authors and really getting, I'm 
getting into this space. 

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So I'm just sitting on my couch 
and I'm Herkel Dirkland's doom 

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scrolling on my phone, right? 
And, and, and, and you show up 

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and of course, look, the look is
phenomenal, right? 

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The hair, the, the eyes are 
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And then she starts talking 
about spirits. 

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I'm like, oh, she's in the 
tribe, right? 

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Like she's like, OK, let's see 
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And then the attitude was like 
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I'm like, oh, OK. 
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I got to reach out. 
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your story, Amy, And it's like I
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all levels. 
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we want to get into this. 
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about a lot of this before, 
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is, and as I was looking this 
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think the doctors would say that
you're, I think the correct word

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for what you have is, is totally
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Is that right? 
Like, is that safe to say? 

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Like medically you have a very 
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In your life? 
Absolutely. 

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Absolutely. 
And has that with all these four

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near death experiences, would 
you say that's brought you that 

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to strengthen your ability? 
Hell yeah, given you the 

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ability. 
Or strengthened. 

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OK, strengthened. 
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mean, I guess, I guess gave 
everybody has this, everybody 

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has this. 
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people that gate keep this shit 
and like nobody can be a medium.

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Sorry, can I curse on here? 
Is that OK? 

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Yeah, for sure. 
OK, OK, Thank you. 

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Yeah, well, everybody has the 
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all the time. 
Everybody communicates 

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telepathically. 
Everybody can feel. 

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But you, you just have to 
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And that's where, like time and 
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know, begins. 
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was little, I had cancer, right?
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It was the size of the tumor was
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They found it at stage 3, going 
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They didn't know a whole lot 
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seen really anything that big. 
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Houston, TX. 
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at that point. 
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know, put me on the operating 
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much vasculature to it that when
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out, I bled to death. 
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coating when I was 5 on the 
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I was in ICU for like another 
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back, everything was fine. 
And then after that, you know, I

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had chemotherapy, the whole 9 
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But I started seeing and feeling
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and just having like, these 
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And my dad was in the air. 
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is from like a little town in 
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They're kind of like both like 
Russian Jews that like, fled the

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war, you know, came over here 
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30 years. 
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not woo woo. 
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all these experiences and 
they're like, OK, that's weird, 

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you know? 
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questioning it and asking, I 
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little eccentric was interesting
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Because I was a musician, I 
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I started playing guitar. 
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energy in any way possible. 
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my second near death experience 
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that point, that was due to what
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that point. 
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didn't know about it, coded, 
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whole 9 yards. 
Came back, things got crazier. 

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Started channeling in high 
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instrument, learned it. 
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like tied together. 
Let me tell you off real quick 

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there. 
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in high school. 
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All right, so high school, high 
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of us. 
What happens when you start? 

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What does that mean exactly? 
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channelling in high school? 
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your friends or this is like in 
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you're sort of like, how did you
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How did that end up coming up? 
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probably, I think I, I don't 
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right now, but when I was in 9th
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seeing and experiencing all this
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And I didn't know where to turn 
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This was what, 2003? 
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big thing, you know, as far as 
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And I'm only 14, so I don't know
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And so I went to Barnes and 
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It was called, it's that dummies
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Remember how they used to have 
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it was like dummies for 
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And I was like, reading it, and 
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freaking sense. 
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So I read the whole thing. 
It didn't match. 

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It was too woo woo. 
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learning about that, I started 
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I started feeling. 
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know, it's really quiet. 
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And I would get something in my 
brain and I would just want to 

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know why. 
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be like, you know, is this 
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Did this happen yesterday to 

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you? 
And they're like, yeah, that's 

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weird, you know? 
But since I was an orchestra and

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I was in volleyball in all of 
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better because I was already 
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the whole group. 
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She's she's just eccentric. 
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That was after my dear death 
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I was actually in but. 
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yourself eccentric or did you 
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what was going on? 
Did you just think like I'm or I

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am talking to spirits? 
I knew it was coming. 

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I knew it was coming from 
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anybody fully knows 1000% of 
what it is until we get there, 

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right? 
It's, it's a, everything's a 

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spirit, everything's energy. 
I mean, you're a spirit and a 

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body at the same time. 
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getting the, this information, 
these downloads, I would get all

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these feelings, they would come 
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translated essentially into 
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And then I was correct. 
Like that's what was going on. 

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And then I really knew that 
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there are spirits that want to 
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people because they have things 
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And it kind of, they have to 
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for them to move up into the 
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And so I was in my history class
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Her name was Miss Fernandez. 
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She was like 65 at that point, 
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woman. 
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start getting this shaky 
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And now I know what that fucking
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It's a spirit coming in and 
wanting to talk and they're 

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mixing with your energy, your 
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It's like overloading your 
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And so I'm like, Oh my God, what
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And then all of a sudden I 
started hearing like, talk to my

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wife. 
Talk to my wife. 

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I'm so sorry. 
I'm so sorry. 

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She found me dead. 
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I got up and I was like, Mr. 
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husband past? 
Anyway, she just, like, breaks 

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down. 
She was out for two or three 

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days. 
We thought she was sick because,

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you know, back then, it's not 
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leave. 
Like she was the head of the 

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history department. 
Whatever days did she get to 

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the? 
I actually got I think I got a C

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because I skipped her Class A 
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But anyways, no, it's just. 
I think that's deserve I think 

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that deserves an A bro right. 
I mean you saw your history 

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teacher that talk about knowing 
history about his dead husband 

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and like she should gave you the
yet but go ahead. 

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Absolutely. 
But no, I told her and and I 

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said it's weird. 
He keeps talking about I think 

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you found found him dead. 
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She woke up and and he was dead 
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heart attack. 
And so she had missed a couple 

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of days of school because of 
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couldn't leave for a week. 
And so she came back and she was

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still dealing with the grief, 
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Kind of. 
So Amy, I usually ask this. 

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I don't want to come back to 
something you said here in a 

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second, but I usually ask this 
at the top. 

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But I wanted to get into your 
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and wonderful. 
But I usually ask this of all 

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our guests, what because of 
this, now, now that you're in 

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11th grade, you're, you're 
seeing this, you're talking to 

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it like an actual spirit and 
you're, you're, you're, you're 

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getting the feeling. 
What do you think spirits are? 

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It's really hard to describe a 
non physical thing in a physical

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space. 
How do I say this? 

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I I'll give you a couple of 
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One, this is kind of a dream. 
This is an illusion. 

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This is something that your 
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you can play out different 
scenarios. 

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Like the matrix of with your. 
Well, yeah, absolutely. 

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I mean, if you think about, you 
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energy, everything is vibration,
everything is frequency. 

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That's all it is. 
It's all in different tones, 

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which leads to densities. 
That's it. 

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And so as spirit, I think that's
like the real, that's the real 

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and they're coming in and 
they're like dipping in into our

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world. 
Cuz right now, remember, if you 

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think about quantum physics and 
like what they're discovering, 

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if you're looking around your 
room right now, nothing else 

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exists outside of it except for 
what you're viewing. 

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That's it. 
Matter only exists if you view 

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it like that is like a law that 
is now like solid. 

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It only exists. 
So everything if you have a 

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wife, if you have a kid, if you 
have a pet that's in the other 

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room, that is only a belief or 
an idea. 

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And you believe it's so strongly
that when you go out in there, 

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then it manifests itself 
essentially because that matter 

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is being viewed. 
So spirits exist in between that

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matrix. 
I don't have another word for 

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that. 
And outside of it as well. 

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And they come in and I guess 
they use the signals or the 

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frequencies in order to connect.
That's that's where I'm at with 

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this. 
OK, All right. 

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So that's that's that's how you 
communicate with them. 

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That's HIG. 
Now you said you feel like you 

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know they're coming in or 
they're about to communicate you

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with you when you start to 
shake. 

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Is that what you said? 
Like that's it. 

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That's that's that. 
Was back then, yeah. 

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So now, like if I'm out and 
about like I'm at a restaurant 

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or if I'm at the mall or if I'm,
you know, like yesterday I went 

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and I got a facial. 
I wasn't feeling at all. 

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I was just kind of like, OK, 
enjoy the fucking facial Shut 

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up. 
Shut your brain up super hard to

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do that, by the way, OK. 
But when when they do that, 

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it's, they come in, remember, 
everybody gives off a wave. 

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You, you, that's people call it 
an aura. 

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I don't care about aura. 
It's, it's your energy, it's 

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your frequency, it's your tone. 
And so they come in and they 

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interact with that and that 
leads to some sort of 

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disturbance and it interacts 
with your body. 

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That's it. 
And so for me, it would make me 

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slightly shake, not a lot, not 
like, but just like enough to be

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highly annoying. 
And then there's like this 

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feeling of like, come on, come 
on, come on, freaking say it. 

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Freaking say it, freaking say 
it. 

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And then it's my choice to 
either continue ignoring it, 

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which I will continue to get 
that feeling gnawing in the back

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of my brain, or I can stop. 
And it's almost like I shift my 

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focus in and then I start 
getting information. 

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That's it. 
Now, John, you have a similar 

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feeling when you feel. 
Wait, tell me. 

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Atmospheric. 
I describe it more as my 

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atmosphere and my general 
atmosphere. 

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Think of it like, think of it 
like you're in jello and 

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something hits that jello or 
enters that jello. 

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It shakes the entire thing. 
And I yeah, I'll feel it. 

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So I can feel what it is. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
So I can't tell what's in a 

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room. 
I can tell when something 

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enters. 
If it's up, I'm already in here 

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and I'm comfortable. 
You know it's existing. 

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Once something comes in, 
different story. 

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Correct it. 
Could be anything. 

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I could be, yeah, it could be 
anything. 

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The only time that you're going 
to feel it is if they want to 

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connect. 
That's it. 

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It's like John doesn't, John 
will say that he's not a psychic

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or a medium, but I feel like 
he's just like a he's just, he's

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interrupted. 
It's it's, you know, I think you

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know, yeah, I, I've heard you 
say that before. 

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I want, I always compare it to 
sports or something, right. 

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I do think people, everyone has 
intuition, which is probably a 

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level of that of mediumship if 
you like, just to put a word on 

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it. 
But you know, no matter how much

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I practice, I'm never going to 
throw a baseball at 98 miles an 

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hour. 
So I don't know if I would ever 

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achieve that role, you know, 
that heightened level. 

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And I think people who are like 
yourself, you. 

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Know if everybody which which I 
can definitely get behind 

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because magnetic fields are 
brains everything, right? 

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It then becomes, at what point 
do we stop calling it mediumship

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and we call it just being a 
human being, you know? 

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And then we give that title to 
those that can actually, for 

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example, like yourself, Amy, 
that can communicate with 

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spirits rather than someone like
me who won't hear a spirit 

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unless I, you know, fire up a 
device like Transcend theory or 

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Necro meter or Vox, you know? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Well, like I look with that, 
like what he was saying, I like 

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to explain it that way as well. 
You know, not everybody's Tony 

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Hawk, but everybody can stand or
get on the skateboard at some 

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point. 
Yeah, I'll. 

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Fall off my I can't. 
Yeah, me too. 

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Me too. 
I can sit on it, but I can't 

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stand up. 
We're shit so. 

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I'll sit on it, can't stand on 
it. 

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Yes, Yeah. 
No. 

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It's awful. 
Amy, you talk about vibrations 

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and frequency a lot, which is, 
which is a really interesting 

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sort of, I guess it's like a 
cabal in philosophy or like the 

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Hermetic principle of vibration.
Like we're all this frequency, 

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we're all this vibe. 
And I don't know if when did, 

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was there a certain instance 
that you, when talking to 

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spirit, recognize that? 
Or was that something you read 

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and sort of flew, you know, got 
into like how did you put those 

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two belief systems together? 
What? 

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What was it that made you 
recognize that? 

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That's a great question. 
Nobody ever asked me that. 

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Yeah, that I choose to not read 
anything. 

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The only book that I've ever 
read was that other one, and I 

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thought it was full of 
horseshit. 

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So after that I chose to not 
read anything because I didn't 

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want anybody else's experience 
and opinions to falter, my own 

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or me to be influenced by it. 
I want it to be a pure. 

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Best way I can get it is 
scientific, you know, extraction

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of what it is like. 
That's it. 

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And so when people ask me what 
books do you read? 

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And I'm like none, none. 
I just sit in my room and I be 

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weird and I try to figure it 
out. 

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That's it, right? 
So that's it. 

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But with with that, I think me 
being a musician for like my 

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whole life, number one has 
really helped me. 

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The one thing that I figured out
was one, I used to write music 

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all the time. 
I still do it, but when I have 

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my nails on, I can't do it. 
So I write things on my piano, 

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my guitar, I layered it all 
together. 

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I put my violin on top of it 
like it's the whole thing. 

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But remember all that music that
didn't either invokes feelings 

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or people write it because of a 
feeling, right? 

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So music, right? 
So if you're thinking about like

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heavy metal rock music, what 
does that make you feel? 

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Aggression, anger, sometimes 
sadness. 

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Those are like lower vibration, 
sometimes hyped up, just 

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depending on on what your state 
is and what your tune matches 

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it. 
Usually if you're going through 

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and you're playing in a higher 
octave, that's light, that's 

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love, that's airy, that kind of 
brings your, it lifts you up. 

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528 Hertz. 
There you go, yes. 

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And then you have the middle, 
which is kind of like normal. 

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So like just the key of C, 
that's what all of our things 

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for, you know, casino, like 
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, all 

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that's done. 
It's kind of just keep you in 

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this meditative middle state. 
So after I started dissecting 

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that, I was like, holy fuck, 
okay, Even my voice, like when 

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people go and they talk, if I 
talk in the same tone down here 

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over and over and over again, it
can put people in some sort of 

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meditative state and keep them 
there. 

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That's what is right. 
That's the whole thing. 

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So within all that, those are 
frequencies. 

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Then I noticed when I started 
channeling and like really, 

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really getting deep because I've
been doing it for forever. 

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But when I started getting 
really deep into it, I noticed 

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that when spirits would come in,
maybe they ended up, you know, 

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committing suicide or maybe they
ended up dying of a drug 

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overdose because they were an 
addict for 20 years. 

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When they would show up, they 
would make me feel all those 

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same feelings that that music 
would make me feel in that 

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certain octave or that certain 
frequency. 

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So for there I would have to 
tune myself down or tune my 

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feelings down to that vibration 
or that level in order to 

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connect with them. 
That's it. 

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Got it. 
No, no, it's fascinating. 

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It's really an interesting take.
And yeah, you know, John's 

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theory on spirits and is the one
thing that I always found 

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interesting because we don't 
come at it from a religious 

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place like the soul in heaven or
hell, is that we all have energy

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in US, right? 
It's a, it's a fact, right? 

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Brain synapses, electrical 
energy. 

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And when we die, that energy has
to go somewhere, but it can't, 

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it cannot be created or 
destroyed. 

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What happens is we think or he 
thinks, and what we're trying to

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say is that consciousness, which
we don't really know or 

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understand, is attached. 
The mind is attached to that 

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energy somehow, and then that 
spreads out. 

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So John believes we talk, he's 
talking to when he's talking to 

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memories of spirit in a sense, 
right? 

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That's sort of his like this is 
what he's, you know, right. 

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That's kind of what he believes 
he's speaking with, which is 

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just a fascinating thing. 
But it still plays into 

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frequency energy. 
Like when the way that spirit 

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boxes work is they're 
manipulating frequency, they're 

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manipulating energy. 
So that's kind of where that's 

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kind of where it comes from for 
him. 

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So it's it's a really 
interesting thing that you've 

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connected with. 
So that's so that's how you 

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connect. 
So has there ever been, you 

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know, do you have to get to a 
certain frequency to connect 

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with certain? 
People. 

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Spirit and have you ever, is 
there like a spec, you know, is 

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there a sort of a, a frequency 
you don't want to get to, to do 

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that? 
Is that hard for you? 

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You know what I mean? 
Does that make? 

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Does that question make sense? 
No, absolutely. 

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Can I take? 
Can I go back on John's take? 

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Yeah, real quick of it. 
So 50% of that is absolutely 

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correct. 
So spirits will come in and they

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will hop in your body and they 
will make you view and 

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experience their memories 
because and they, they don't 

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remember everything. 
You don't remember everything 

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when you crossover, but you do 
remember key moments, things 

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that have like this emotional, 
like like deepness to it, 

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whether it be a good thing or a 
bad thing. 

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And they're trying to show that 
to you in order for them to 

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like, release. 
There are some spirits that are 

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just residual energy. 
For some reason it gets trapped,

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but it's not a conscious entity.
Just kind of like if you walk 

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into a room after a fight, you 
can feel if you like you're just

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like that room doesn't feel 
great. 

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It's because that energy like 
slogs off on you. 

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And the only way I can describe 
it is like an ether that's the 

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old 18. 100 we've had we've had 
some academics describe that. 

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Sorry to interrupt you. 
We've had some academics 

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describe that as more of like 
how they would define a 

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haunting. 
Most people, most people find a 

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haunting as an imprint. 
So like you could be alive and 

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leave your imprint on something 
and then that's, you know, it's 

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just repeats. 
It's like playing a tape over 

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and over and over again. 
It can't. 

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As opposed, right? 
As opposed to like an 

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apparition, which is what we 
would think. 

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Of as a ghoster. 
Right, exactly. 

450
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,000
But sorry, but sorry, go ahead. 
No, no, no. 

451
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,840
You're OK. 
So yeah. 

452
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,800
So I they they do hop in your 
brain. 

453
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,280
They do play with it. 
They do make you see, feel and 

454
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,240
experience memories because they
want to connect with you. 

455
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,040
But remember too, the only 
memories that they can make you 

456
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,320
see are things that you 
personally have seen, felt, and 

457
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,600
experienced and done before. 
So they're going to take little 

458
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,200
clips from all these different 
things that your brain has ever 

459
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,000
accessed before, and they're 
going to smash it together to 

460
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,880
try to talk about their 
experience, OK. 

461
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,600
And how do you decipher what's 
what? 

462
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,160
Oh, so let's get into that. 
All right. 

463
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,720
Oh, this is so much fun. 
Oh, it's crazy. 

464
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,840
Oh, it's such. 
A funny fuck, yeah. 

465
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,760
Like, how do you know what 
you're hearing isn't a memory 

466
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,520
versus an apparition versus you 
know, you're talking to the 

467
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,400
right person, if you will, 
right? 

468
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,960
Yeah, okay, so when you sit down
with a client or when you sit 

469
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,680
down with a person that wants to
be channeled, whether it's a 

470
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,360
client, friend, person that I go
out and see, we'll get into how 

471
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:13,720
everything happens for a reason 
and there's no chance and all 

472
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,040
that stuff in a little bit. 
But essentially, if I'm sitting 

473
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,320
down with a person, they have to
be in the right energy and in 

474
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,960
the right space. 
And I don't mean that they have 

475
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,440
to be like or whatever it is, 
but they can't have any 

476
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,000
distractions. 
It's you and me. 

477
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,440
Get your kids out of the room, 
get the dogs out of the room. 

478
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,680
I want you to be calm. 
Don't just get off of work. 

479
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,800
I want you to be relaxed because
you are the channel, whatever 

480
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,240
frequency you are in. 
Like if you were in super deep 

481
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,560
grief and your loved one just 
died, you're probably going to 

482
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,200
be in a lower state than what 
they are. 

483
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,880
So it's going to be more 
difficult, not impossible, but 

484
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,920
more difficult for me need to 
connect because 50% of the 

485
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,080
energy or the power is with you 
because we're all connected. 

486
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,040
Like we just all, we just are 
because we're all each other. 

487
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,320
And then essentially when you go
in and you start feeling, 

488
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,040
sometimes I'll go through and 
I'll just like feel and see 

489
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,000
who's around. 
Other times my client will say, 

490
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,120
you know, I want to channel like
this is Friday. 

491
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,320
She says, can I channel Richard?
Richard is my dad, right? 

492
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,200
So that's what she asked me. 
So I'm sitting there for a 

493
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,040
second and I'm feeling, and the 
only way that I can, I'll tell 

494
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,120
you what it feels like as a 
representation is it's almost 

495
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:21,560
like it's going to sound so 
stupid, but echolocation, it's 

496
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,360
like you're sending out a signal
and you're trying to get it 

497
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:25,400
back. 
You're sending out. 

498
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,920
It's like ping, ping, ping, 
ping, ping. 

499
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,640
And so I'm pinging at like the 
highest because I'm happy, I'm 

500
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,560
light, I'm super excited to 
connect with her. 

501
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,840
And I'm like, Richard, where are
you at? 

502
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,000
What are you doing? 
That's what it feels like in my 

503
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,560
brain. 
And then I get nothing. 

504
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,040
And I'm like, OK, maybe 
Richard's not here, right? 

505
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,920
He's always here. 
There's a reason why she wants 

506
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,440
to connect with him. 
Of course, Richard's fucking 

507
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,760
here. 
And so then I go through and I'm

508
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,640
like, all right, well, maybe 
I'll make myself less happy. 

509
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,920
So I get a little bit more 
melancholy. 

510
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,400
And I'm like, hold on, let me 
adjust myself. 

511
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,480
I calm down. 
I get kind of blah, like that 

512
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,280
kind of feeling. 
And then I'm like, OK, Richard, 

513
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,520
where are you at? 
And then all of a sudden, my 

514
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,280
head. 
So you're feeling in the back of

515
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,360
your head. 
You feel like just something 

516
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:07,920
show up. 
It's not. 

517
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,160
You can't see anything. 
It's just like there's now 

518
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,000
something in your space, like a 
circle or like a mass or 

519
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,200
whatever it is. 
That's the only way I can 

520
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,440
describe it. 
You can't see it with your eyes.

521
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,120
It's like you're feeling it. 
And then I'm like, OK, is this 

522
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,840
Richard? 
And then all of a sudden he 

523
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,040
shows me an image of and he 
makes me feel right here hurting

524
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,720
really, really bad. 
And I started rubbing it, and I 

525
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,480
was like, he committed suicide, 
didn't he? 

526
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,600
And she was like, yeah. 
And I said, I don't think he 

527
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,320
shot himself. 
I did said he'd hang himself. 

528
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,280
And she was like, yes. 
And then he references Mike or 

529
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,760
Bubba, which is a client I had. 
There's a video of him. 

530
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,840
Mike shot himself in his garage.
He didn't hang himself. 

531
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,240
I said that he'd do this in his 
garage. 

532
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,000
And she starts crying. 
And she's like, yes. 

533
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000
And I was like, OK, well, he's 
coming to say I'm sorry. 

534
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,960
So he's taking other sessions 
that I've had to try to talk 

535
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520
about his experience because 
I've personally never, you know,

536
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,160
done that to myself. 
So that's how they do that. 

537
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,200
And then from there, when I'm 
asking questions, I said, so why

538
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,920
did you do this? 
Like literally in my brain, I'm 

539
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,760
like, well, what's up? 
Why did you do this? 

540
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,720
And so I'm, it's almost like I'm
scanning every scenario that 

541
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,960
I've ever seen or I could 
possibly think of to see if 

542
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,160
he'll highlight one. 
So I'm like, were you and your 

543
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,920
wife in a fight? 
He says, no, we're perfectly 

544
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,720
fine. 
What about your kids? 

545
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,680
No, we're perfectly fine. 
I'm like, were you just really 

546
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,280
depressed? 
Nah, it was hard. 

547
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,200
It was difficult, but you know, 
not crazy depression. 

548
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,080
And then I said, so what's 
happening? 

549
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,680
And then he gives me this 
feeling of coughing heavily and 

550
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,420
he gives me the feeling of when 
I have people that die of long 

551
00:25:34,420 --> 00:25:37,520
COVID or die of like emphysema 
because like their lungs are 

552
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,240
melting on the inside, like that
whole thing or they start 

553
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,160
bleeding or tuberculosis. 
And I was like, this is odd. 

554
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,960
I said, did your dad have like 
long COVID? 

555
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,480
And she goes, no. 
I said, he keeps making my lungs

556
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,360
burn. 
And he's sitting on the side of 

557
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,520
the bed and he's coughing and 
he's complaining about that. 

558
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,480
And she says, oh, he had 
bronchitis, but it had been 

559
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,080
chronic for 10 years. 
And he had kept getting 

560
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,520
bacterial infections and he was 
septic and nobody could do in 

561
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,640
it. 
And his his inner lining of his 

562
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,200
lungs had been eaten away from 
this. 

563
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,920
And so he would cough up blood, 
but it wasn't tuberculosis. 

564
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840
And so he wrote this note saying
he couldn't live with that pain 

565
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040
anymore and that's why he took 
his life. 

566
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,680
Jesus Christ. 
So all right. 

567
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,880
But Amy, OK, you have to get 
yourself into this place, to 

568
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,600
talk to this person in order to 
help your client. 

569
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,520
How do you protect yourself? 
You're always protected you. 

570
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,600
Don't need how, how that can't 
like that can't be good 

571
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,160
mentally, physically to get into
that space. 

572
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,280
That's such a dark space all the
time. 

573
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,880
No, I mean, am I wrong? 
I mean, is it like it's cool? 

574
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,560
It's a story. 
It's not my story. 

575
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,240
It's their story and it feels 
stressful. 

576
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,960
It can be, but it's not when you
realize that it's their story 

577
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,440
and they went through it and 
that's the story that they have 

578
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520
with their person. 
It's not mine. 

579
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,600
I'm here to give the message. 
I'm here to talk about. 

580
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,240
I'm here to be the bridge 
between the two. 

581
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,560
But I'm not here to like, take 
that and take it home with me. 

582
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,680
Because remember, at the end of 
the day, all of us are going to 

583
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,760
die no matter what is going to 
happen. 

584
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,400
Did you always know that? 
Did you always That's that's a 

585
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,760
very mature statement though 
from an adult person like when 

586
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,320
you were younger was how do you 
not take something home so. 

587
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,280
I used to get really sad. 
OK, so that so when did you OK, 

588
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,640
that's so then how did you when 
did you make that turn? 

589
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,160
When did you learn to and what 
did you do to say I have to stop

590
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,000
this here or I have to protect 
myself by doing this And what 

591
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,880
was that? 
I when I. 

592
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,440
Pinpoint it at all. 
Yeah, kinda a little bit. 

593
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,440
So when I was 29, I had this, I 
was 30. 

594
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,520
I can't remember which one it 
is. 

595
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560
I'm 36 now, so I'll be 37 in 
like a month. 

596
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,560
And so about 7 years ago, like I
had been living with this and 

597
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,040
every single session I would 
cry. 

598
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,600
And it, it was not, not in a bad
way. 

599
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000
Or like after them, like I would
like offload it, right? 

600
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,360
Because you have kids drowning, 
you have people murder suicides,

601
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,480
you have, you know, grandma's 
passing away and the whole 

602
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,400
family's around them and like, 
they can't say goodbye because 

603
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,520
they have a tube down their 
throat. 

604
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Like you name it, every which 
way possible. 

605
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,720
And I would take that and I 
would feel the sadness from my 

606
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040
client, the the loss of the 
other side. 

607
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,000
But it's odd too, because then 
you're like, OK, well, they're 

608
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,880
fine, right? 
So there is that, that silver 

609
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,520
lining. 
But after a sessions, I would go

610
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,360
and I would sit in my bathtub 
and I would just feel like, Oh 

611
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,040
my God, I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to do. 

612
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,520
And then at some point I had a 
feeling and it said, and this is

613
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,480
probably a download or spirit or
God or whatever you want to call

614
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,560
it, or just my higher self, I 
don't know, it's all the same 

615
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,040
thing. 
And it said, you know, remember,

616
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,680
it's just their story. 
You don't have to take it with 

617
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,560
you. 
And I was like, but how do I not

618
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,480
take it with me? 
Like I was, I was getting their 

619
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,400
pain and I was personalizing and
I felt like it was my duty to 

620
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,680
hold on to it, right? 
And it wasn't. 

621
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,240
And so the the kicker was I had 
the session with this wonderful 

622
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,360
woman. 
She wanted me to channel her two

623
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,840
dogs there named Kirby and 
Daisy. 

624
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,480
I was just thinking, it's like, 
OK, both the dogs passed. 

625
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520
OK, they probably got put down. 
Whatever it is when I start. 

626
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Wait a second, you were 
channeling a dog? 

627
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,160
Yeah, I channeled. 
You just cats I've done. 

628
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Dolphins I've had. 
Chickens I've had. 

629
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,280
A potbelly pig I've had. 
That's outrageous, all right? 

630
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,320
No. 
It's great. 

631
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,080
I want it level. 
I want to hear. 

632
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,280
Yeah. 
Like do you understand it as 

633
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,680
English? 
Yeah, we'll talk about that. 

634
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,520
So dogs are. 
You like, Are you like the 

635
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Doctor Doolittle of the dead? 
Or something. 

636
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Everybody can. 
Yes. 

637
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Because remember, we're all 
energy. 

638
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,080
We'll talk about that just a 
second. 

639
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,680
It's great. 
Yeah. 

640
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,160
So keep going, channeling them. 
And I was like I said, what 

641
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,880
happened to you? 
I was like, where was your mom 

642
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,040
at? 
And there was this, this feeling

643
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120
of this dog, he made me feel the
feeling of like when you get a 

644
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,920
puppy when they're little and 
you lift them up by the scruff 

645
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,080
of their neck, right? 
Just to hold them to like put 

646
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,000
them somewhere really quick. 
And he lifted it up. 

647
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
And then he made me feel what it
felt like when I had clients 

648
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,600
that drowned. 
And then he made me feel like 

649
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,440
this sinister, evil, dark 
feeling. 

650
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,520
And I was like, OK. 
And then he keeps making me feel

651
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,440
this feeling of why don't you 
love me? 

652
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,840
Why don't you love me? 
I love you. 

653
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,680
I love you. 
And then death. 

654
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,480
And I said, I said, did somebody
like drowned him or did he get 

655
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,480
like drowned in the bathtub? 
And I said, it's not you. 

656
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,880
I said, who is the guy? 
Like who's bathing him? 

657
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680
I go, and why? 
Why is he so sad? 

658
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,920
Essentially her boyfriend at the
time, she broke up with him. 

659
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,880
He broke into her apartment. 
He went in, grabbed that 

660
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,600
singular dog and then 
essentially waterlogged it 100 

661
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,560
times over. 
John, you just walked into a 

662
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,960
story where she felt and 
channeled the dog that was 

663
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:32,080
murdered by some girl's real 
jerk off ex-boyfriend. 

664
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Who would do that? 
Great. 

665
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,680
Great place to just enter, you 
know. 

666
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,000
Yeah, it's just wonderful. 
Yeah, yeah, I. 

667
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,320
Hate that that story makes me 
like I get chill. 

668
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,760
I've got literal chills because 
I don't like I can't watch any 

669
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,560
movies where dogs or. 
Kids. 

670
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,960
Yeah, yeah. 
Listen, I'm pretty sure we all 

671
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,720
agree that anybody that does 
anything to innocent animals, 

672
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,040
yeah, it's garbage. 
Complete, complete and under 

673
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,040
garbage. 
But anyway. 

674
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960
True garbage. 
It's like so you felt that from 

675
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,440
so. 
OK, so you got that feeling. 

676
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Yeah, that so it's it's kind of 
like ET then, is what you're 

677
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,000
saying? 
Like my my obscure movie 

678
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:14,920
references is like, no, Elliot 
Elliot doesn't, you know, but 

679
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,360
it's like Elliot doesn't hear ET
thoughts. 

680
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,120
He feels ET feelings. 
Does that make sense? 

681
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,600
That's what you're saying, But 
that's with animals. 

682
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,080
That's with animals. 
That's with animals and people. 

683
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,080
And so that's, that's how 
spirits talk. 

684
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120
And so he made me feel this up 
and down. 

685
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,080
And then she says, yeah, he 
grabbed him and he kept, he 

686
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,280
videoed it, all of it. 
By what? 

687
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,520
That's the only way she could 
confirm it. 

688
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,920
And he kept water locking it. 
And at the very end, he held him

689
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,520
under and he drowned to death. 
And then he went. 

690
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,000
He got an iron to the other one 
and then pressed it on its face 

691
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,920
until it dies. 
This is a psychopath. 

692
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440
He is and slammed it. 
So anyways, so with with our 

693
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,560
session, Are you ready for this 
this work? 

694
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,600
It's interesting. 
This is where it gets 

695
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,560
interesting. 
Yeah, this is another one. 

696
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000
So this work, it's interesting. 
So she was asking me. 

697
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,920
She was like, you know, what 
should I do about this? 

698
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,200
She's like, the authorities in 
Chicago won't do anything. 

699
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,720
And it happened like a month 
before. 

700
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,120
And I said, I need you to go as 
far as you can, press charges, 

701
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,800
write a book and make a big deal
about it. 

702
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,040
She ended up getting our session
and posting it places. 

703
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000
She ended up writing a book. 
And this past year, he finally 

704
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,520
went to prison. 
And she has a book and she has 

705
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,000
the social media. 
Like, you could ask her about 

706
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,400
this. 
Her name is Sarah Manos. 

707
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,240
She's online, and she's one of 
my friends. 

708
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,560
But she just had a baby. 
That's. 

709
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,960
Nice. 
That is, well, that's I'm glad 

710
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,920
it's got a happy ending to it. 
That is a crazy person. 

711
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,880
Yeah, he was. 
Sorry, but I don't that after 

712
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840
that. 
Apologize, don't apologize. 

713
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,840
It's like, I don't like hearing 
about like that's true garbage 

714
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,120
to me. 
Like I would definitely, I'd run

715
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,720
over somebody who hurt a dog. 
I'd run over a person before I'd

716
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,000
run over a dog. 
You know what I mean? 

717
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,320
Like, it's not, it's not a, it's
really not a dark one, Sure, I 

718
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:55,800
guess. 
OK. 

719
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,040
Absolutely. 
You have a sibic of. 

720
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,840
It I'm all back, I know. 
It's 9:30 in the morning for me.

721
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,680
Let's start the day with some 
darkness, I guess. 

722
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,840
Yeah, go for it. 
Let's share it. 

723
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Let's share it. 
So this was probably my most I 

724
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,000
didn't know what to do because 
by the way, I hate the term. 

725
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040
I'm an ethical medium. 
My God, you everybody should be 

726
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,920
fucking ethical. 
Like what are you talking about?

727
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Why are you labeling that 
yourself? 

728
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Either you do it or you don't. 
But anyways, I digress. 

729
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,120
So with that, I'm going through 
and there's this lovely blonde 

730
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,280
woman. 
She was probably about 2425. 

731
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,440
I can't remember the guy's name.
I don't think I want to remember

732
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,800
it, but I can remember exactly 
what he looked like and in my 

733
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,480
head and the way he felt and 
he's in the best way I can 

734
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,360
describe it as hell. 
Or what would be a lower 

735
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,000
vibration, like the lowest 
vibrational state. 

736
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,840
So she gives me his first name. 
I start feeling around. 

737
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,840
I'm feeling in my upper octave. 
I don't feel anything, feel in 

738
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,880
the middle and nothing's coming 
back on my little echolocation. 

739
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,000
And so I start to get like, I 
was like, weird. 

740
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,240
I was like, I don't feel him at 
all. 

741
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,040
And she was like, well, he may 
be really frustrated. 

742
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,440
And I'm like, oh, OK, 
interesting. 

743
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Because I'm like, well, why are 
you not here? 

744
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,240
So I started adjusting myself to
like, frustration. 

745
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,520
And then I adjust myself to 
anger. 

746
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,800
And the best way I can describe 
that it looks like in my brain 

747
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,360
is there. 
He shows up. 

748
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,880
It is an entire room of black. 
Everything is black. 

749
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,360
And there's like a single light 
barely illuminating his face and

750
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,679
he's pacing back and forth and 
he's grunting and all I hear is 

751
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,040
those little bitches got away. 
Those little bitches got away 

752
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
and then I'm like OK, he's 
talking about like 2 bitches. 

753
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,880
Maybe it's 2 girls cuz that's 
what I'm assuming right? 

754
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,159
And I'm like I don't get. 
Bitches would be at least more 

755
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,760
than one bitch. 
Yeah, would be exactly, exactly.

756
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,280
And so I was like odd. 
I said he keeps doing this and I

757
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,120
was, I asked him, I said, who is
this person? 

758
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,520
He says, oh, you're talking to 
my slut, like just said that. 

759
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,480
How do I convey that to my 
client? 

760
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,800
And so I like negate it. 
And I was like, so you and him 

761
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,520
weren't married, you were 
dating. 

762
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,680
That's kind of what I say. 
And she goes, yeah, we were 

763
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,000
seeing each other. 
And then I go, why does he keep 

764
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,600
referencing, like, these two 
bitches or maybe two people are 

765
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,320
not with him, and he's angry. 
And she just, like, panics. 

766
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,520
And I said, hold on. 
And so I start channeling. 

767
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,120
I said, what happened to you? 
How did you get here? 

768
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,720
And clearly, he's in a lower, 
lower state. 

769
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,680
And then he makes me feel what 
it feels like to walk through 

770
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,560
tall grass and have shorts on, 
like with the tall grass on my 

771
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,920
legs. 
And I'm like, because we have 

772
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,560
acreage. 
And so like I walk through that 

773
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,640
shit all the time. 
And then he makes me hear like a

774
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,640
metal door opening ring. 
And then he shows me a head 

775
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,760
exploding, which was very 
interesting. 

776
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,120
And I said, so he committed 
suicide maybe outside or maybe 

777
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,760
like a shed or like a metal 
building. 

778
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160
And she says yes. 
And I said it's weird. 

779
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,880
He's talking about like I get 
the feeling of murder. 

780
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,480
I go, but there's those people 
aren't here. 

781
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,880
And he keeps referencing sons as
well. 

782
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,080
And she says, well, he got mad 
because his wife found out about

783
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,120
me and the wife was going to 
take the two boys. 

784
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,760
And so he took them out early in
the morning instead of going to 

785
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,280
school, and he shot them both in
the shed and then killed 

786
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,760
himself. 
So she was wanting to see if he 

787
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,040
loved her. 
And he was the absence of love 

788
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,680
on every level. 
My God. 

789
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,120
The two boys were in heaven, 
They're in a higher vibrational 

790
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,160
state and he was mad about it 
but whatever, fuck him all. 

791
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,000
Right. 
Listen, I don't know how you do 

792
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,800
what you do. 
Do you have, do you have a 

793
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,240
story? 
Is there any story in here 

794
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:39,240
that's like a fun one? 
You know where it's like? 

795
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,040
Yeah, listen. 
Yeah, well, I mean, it's all 

796
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,400
about death, so. 
I know, but it's death like 

797
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,080
something that's a little more 
Can we have like, can't we get a

798
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,600
story about like, you know, 
here's like an old couple that 

799
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,040
were together for 50 years and 
then like, you know, it's like. 

800
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,920
Don't you? 
Don't you have a notebook type 

801
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,760
story where we can all like we 
feel warm inside? 

802
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,760
OK, Are you ready? 
Are you ready? 

803
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,640
Please. 
Sorry. 

804
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,680
I may be chilling her soon 
because she's coming up in my 

805
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,520
brain two or three times as a 
recent. 

806
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,680
It's probably been three years 
at this point, I think. 

807
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640
OK, so #1 if. 
John's got a big anniversary he 

808
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,080
just had, so a good love story 
might be a good way to Let's 

809
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,400
hear a good love story. 
This is where it's at. 

810
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,600
So I remember for me, the reason
why somebody pops in my head is 

811
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,600
because I'm probably either 
going to interact with them 

812
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,160
soon, I'm going to get an e-mail
from them, or I'm going to be 

813
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,960
channeling them. 
So the reason why I'm choosing 

814
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,600
this specific story is probably 
because I'm about to channel 

815
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,240
them, which means when I figure 
it out, when that is, I will 

816
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,560
e-mail you just to show you 
that, yes, that is a real thing.

817
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,120
OK. 
I love it. 

818
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,320
So yeah. 
So anyways, I remember there's 

819
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,400
this one time there was this 
woman, she was having a session 

820
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,640
with me in her car and she 
wanted to channel somebody named

821
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,920
Dustin. 
She was like, I want to see if I

822
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,360
can get in contact with Dustin. 
I said, OK, so because I have a 

823
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,400
lot of people that just want to 
get in contact with a single 

824
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,280
specific person. 
And you can the reason why they 

825
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520
want to get in contact with that
person is because that person is

826
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,560
wanting to get in contact with 
you. 

827
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,480
And they've been trying. 
And now they're like, holy shit.

828
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,800
OK, at least we can do this now.
So they're always going to show 

829
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,080
up. 
So I sit down and I start 

830
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,120
feeling. 
And in my brain, he shows up in 

831
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,760
the passenger seat next to her 
and he's vaping. 

832
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,920
I said, oh, I said, so he vapes.
And she says, yeah, I said, this

833
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,600
is weird. 
I said, this is not your son, 

834
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,240
right? 
I said he looks very young. 

835
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,160
And she goes, oh, he's 20 years 
younger than me. 

836
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,480
I was like, oh, OK. 
And I start feeling. 

837
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Oh, yeah, I start feeling. 
And I was like, what happened to

838
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,640
you? 
What's going on? 

839
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,960
And he shows me this, like, 
whirlwind romance. 

840
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,560
He makes me hear horses. 
He makes me see beautiful 

841
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,120
forest. 
He makes me see a mean husband, 

842
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,120
like somebody grumbling outside.
And I was like, I was like, do 

843
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,360
you look like, on a ranch or 
something? 

844
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,080
And she goes, yeah, I said, so 
you have horses. 

845
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480
She was like, oh, we own an 
equestrian training center. 

846
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,880
And he was one of the people 
that would help train the 

847
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,760
horses. 
I was like, oh, shit. 

848
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,000
And I was like, well, who is the
angry husband? 

849
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,960
I said, you're not married. 
She goes, yeah. 

850
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,400
And I'm like, you know, I can't 
release this session because of 

851
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,680
that, right? 
So essentially I'm like, oh, 

852
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,040
this is so juicy. 
So anyways, I go through and I 

853
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,520
ask him, I said, you know, what 
happened to you? 

854
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,240
What's going on? 
And he makes me. 

855
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:12,840
Do you remember the movie? 
God, what was it, Pearl Harbor? 

856
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,280
Do you remember that movie? 
OK, So he makes me hear the song

857
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,280
The winner look back on these 
times. 

858
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,440
And there's like a whole song 
that Faith Hill sings. 

859
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,760
The airplanes are flying over. 
And like Josh Hartnett, like we 

860
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,080
think or no, Ben Affleck goes 
down and like his airplane, like

861
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,600
the whole 9 yards or whatever it
is. 

862
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,200
And I'm like, he wasn't 
military, right? 

863
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,440
She goes, no, I said it's weird 
that they keep referencing this 

864
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,440
movie. 
They keep referencing planes in 

865
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,640
like the specific area where the
planes go down over in Japan. 

866
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,520
And she says he died in the 
plane crash. 

867
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,960
And I was like, oh, And I was 
like, is it a reason why he 

868
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,120
talks about Josh Hartnett and 
Ben Affleck? 

869
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,520
So there was two people. 
She goes, yeah, it was him. 

870
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,840
It was his last flight to become
a pilot and a private pilot. 

871
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,880
And he was with his instructor. 
And I was like, oh, my God. 

872
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,840
And so now I'm asking, I don't 
know where she lives at. 

873
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,560
I'm like, where did this happen?
Because I you, they can tell you

874
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,400
like, what the area looks like. 
They can show you what they were

875
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,480
seeing. 
You get these little last 

876
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,640
snippets, pop pop pop of what 
happened. 

877
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,360
That's why I'm asking him. 
And he shows me snippets of what

878
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,480
I've seen when I've looked at 
like documentaries of Canada, 

879
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,200
but like the cruciferous forest,
like the Super thick pine trees,

880
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,760
like super. 
And I was like, was this like 

881
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,880
more like N like near Canada or 
like on the Canadian border? 

882
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,920
And she said, yeah, it was on 
the border of what is it 

883
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,160
Minnesota? 
I think that is Minnesota or 

884
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,200
whatever it is, and she says. 
I'm not. 

885
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,000
I'm not Magellan. 
I'm not good at geography. 

886
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,800
I don't know her. 
It's OK, I have to remember 

887
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,440
everything. 
And so sometimes they forget 

888
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,640
some things. 
But she said that his what they 

889
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,080
know is that it didn't install. 
They couldn't get it back up. 

890
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,600
And he ended up crashing through
a forest, these thick forests. 

891
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,200
And in him they got impaled. 
Let's just say that. 

892
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,240
Sure, OK. 
But as we're reading, as we're 

893
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,280
in there and he's like having 
this feeling of like, I miss 

894
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,520
you, I love you. 
I hear bop bop, bop bop, bop, 

895
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,840
bop, bop, bop, like this knock. 
And she's like, Oh my God. 

896
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,440
He was like, what are you doing 
out here? 

897
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,400
Why are you hiding from me? 
And she puts the phone down. 

898
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,640
It's her husband. 
It's her husband that came 

899
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,760
outside to try to find her. 
And he's like, get the fuck 

900
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,960
inside the house. 
And I'm like, whoa. 

901
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,240
Anyways, it was the whole thing.
But yeah, it's like a Bravo 

902
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,480
episode. 
I like this one. 

903
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,120
It was, it was a Bravo episode, 
but he ended up she was like, 

904
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,640
I'm on the phone. 
She, I don't remember who she 

905
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,080
said she was. 
It was like a family, remember? 

906
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,560
And he said, we'll get back in 
here. 

907
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,200
So essentially he went inside 
and we, you know, I calm myself 

908
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000
down and I go back into the 
session and I said, do you have 

909
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,520
a little boy? 
She said, yes. 

910
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520
I said, weird. 
I said, he keeps showing that 

911
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,840
he's playing with an airplane. 
I said, I don't know if your son

912
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,840
wants that be a pilot. 
And she goes, no. 

913
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,320
She says right before he died, 
because he was about to get his 

914
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,880
license, he gave him a set of 
little airplanes and he plays 

915
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,640
with them every day. 
And he says, and he talks to 

916
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,440
him. 
And I was like. 

917
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,720
Oh, I thought you were going to 
say like the boy is actually 

918
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,680
that guy's son. 
The pilot's son. 

919
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,960
No, I don't. 
No, no, I wish. 

920
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,440
I wish. 
That would have been juicy. 

921
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,920
That would have been real juicy 
stuff, right? 

922
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,640
Like that would have been nuts. 
I took that story in my own 

923
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,360
place. 
Look, speaking, Speaking of 

924
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,120
great love stories. 
So Amy, you're married, right? 

925
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:19,160
Is that correct? 
So I, I am, I am curious to know

926
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,560
because of what you do for a 
living and because of all the 

927
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480
near death experiences in 
medical history. 

928
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,920
And I I just got to know because
your, your husband must be a St.

929
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,640
It's like, what do you tell your
what do you tell him first, that

930
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,240
you talk to the dead or sickness
and health is going to mean 

931
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,920
could mean a hell of a lot in 
our lives together. 

932
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,920
So, you know, you know, buckle 
up. 

933
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,240
Like what do you say first this 
guy and then he sticks around 

934
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,520
for? 
Buckle up, today's a bad one. 

935
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Let me tell you like, how do 
you, as I say, you like, I just 

936
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,320
want to know from a personal, 
you know, experience, you know, 

937
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,880
it's like, listen, two things 
about me. 

938
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,440
You should know these two big 
things. 

939
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Yeah. 
It's OK, This is how what 

940
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,400
happened. 
This is how it happened. 

941
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,680
All right, so I got my first 
divorce and we Co parent great 

942
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,040
now good guy. 
We have a son together. 

943
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,200
He's 12, you know, wonderful. 
But then obviously got a 

944
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,960
divorce. 
Didn't like what I did. 

945
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,960
And so when I got a divorce when
I was 26, I decided to go out 

946
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,720
and play the field like I it was
it was bad. 

947
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,280
Wait A. 
Minute, Amy. 

948
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,240
I'm sorry. 
I'm sorry to interrupt you. 

949
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,320
He didn't like what you did. 
As in, he didn't. 

950
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,160
He didn't. 
He didn't like it at all. 

951
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,200
No, he told me that it was evil 
and it was the devil. 

952
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,480
OK, he's one of. 
OK, he's one. 

953
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Of those, yeah. 
Yeah, one of those one. 

954
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,280
Of those. 
Exactly, exactly. 

955
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,320
And so we, it was, I didn't get 
a divorce because of that. 

956
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,320
I got a divorce because 
essentially the abuse had been 

957
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,000
going on for, you know, 5 or 6 
years. 

958
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,480
I was in a wheelchair, I 
couldn't walk. 

959
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,200
He would tell me, oh, the only 
reason why you're staying with 

960
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,360
me is for insurance and you 
can't leave me because if you 

961
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,840
do, you're going to die. 
Ha ha, ha. 

962
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,000
And so at that point I took that
as a fucking challenge and I was

963
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,960
like, fuck you. 
Yes, I. 

964
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,680
Like, like, I've getting the 
hell out, yeah. 

965
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,160
Yeah, good for you. 
Exactly. 

966
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,400
Yeah, good for you. 
That's what ended up happening. 

967
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,640
Are you ready for the cool 
karma? 

968
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,960
So he got remarried and his new 
wife has my disease. 

969
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,360
That's weird. 
Wow, that's a little strange. 

970
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,280
I. 
Think he has a type? 

971
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,960
Yes, exactly. 
I agree with you on that 

972
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,240
exactly. 
So I go, I go out and I play the

973
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,000
field and actually with what I 
do, it really helped me date, 

974
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:26,280
which is interesting because I 
knew, I knew what people felt 

975
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,840
like. 
I knew what their glances felt 

976
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160
like. 
I knew what to say and what to 

977
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,360
do to kind of like pull them in 
or push them away. 

978
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,720
It's a really weird thing. 
So there was be like a game. 

979
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,840
I'd be like, OK, I like that 
person. 

980
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,760
Yeah, I'm going to get them. 
All right, yes, OK, I got them. 

981
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,040
Now I'm done. 
On to the next one like that. 

982
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,880
It was, it was bad, OK, because 
I got a divorce. 

983
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,520
So we'll leave it there. 
So it's actually, you get it. 

984
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,960
There was a time period. 
It's OK. 

985
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,080
There was a time period that for
about two years, that's what I 

986
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,000
did. 
And then I finally said, OK, you

987
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000
need to chill out. 
Why are you dating all these 

988
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
people? 
Why don't you find somebody that

989
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,240
loves you? 
Because at that point I'm like, 

990
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:04,680
OK, I'm a medium. 
I'm chronically. 

991
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,560
I'll, you know, I'm going to 
live in an apartment for the 

992
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,600
rest of my life. 
Like I want to farm, but I can't

993
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,960
do it because I can't live more 
than 5 lbs whatever fucking. 

994
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,640
And I essentially said, OK, now 
I'm going to turn into a 

995
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,680
celibate nun, right? 
So, and so I went, I did. 

996
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,800
So I cut everybody off and I 
wrote everybody's names down. 

997
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,800
And I was like, well, what, why 
am I dating all these people? 

998
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,120
And I realized it was because I 
liked something about them that 

999
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,440
I wanted to find myself. 
That's it with each one of those

1000
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,040
people, it was something that I 
was trying to find in myself. 

1001
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,960
That's it. 
So I started doing the inner 

1002
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,080
work and I started saying like, 
well, why? 

1003
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,520
Why did I date the doctor? 
Why did I date the lawyer? 

1004
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,800
Why did I date, you know, the 
accounts executive in in Dubai, 

1005
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Like, why did this happen? 
Right? 

1006
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,160
It was because each one of these
people had something 

1007
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,320
interesting. 
They didn't have it all. 

1008
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,960
So after doing that, I ended up 
getting on Tinder on accident 

1009
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,400
because my best friend put me on
there because I was the one that

1010
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,280
would help my friends get all 
their dates. 

1011
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Like I would be the person 
behind the scenes and then when 

1012
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,600
they got the date, I'd give it 
to them. 

1013
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Go have fun free right? 
And I ended up having my third 

1014
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:12,240
near death experience. 
I because of all funny story, my

1015
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,120
bladder, my butt and my cooter 
fall out because my mesentery 

1016
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,040
fails. 
So I've had three different 

1017
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,680
surgeries to kind of tack them 
back up. 

1018
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,720
Have you ever sneezed at work 
and your asshole fell out? 

1019
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,000
That's fun. 
OK, Just FY That was the real 

1020
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,560
thing I had to tell my boss. 
That was very odd. 

1021
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,680
OK. 
And so with that. 

1022
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,720
Blew out your O-ring. 
Yes, yes, exactly. 

1023
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,480
And so I couldn't. 
I can't feel when I pee like 

1024
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,640
nothing because everything's 
been numb so much. 

1025
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,280
So I would get these really bad 
bladder infections that would 

1026
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,440
lead to a kidney infection and 
since I have only had one 

1027
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,360
kidney, if I didn't catch it 
early I was fucked. 

1028
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,560
So I essentially had septic 
shock. 

1029
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,800
I passed out at work. 
They put me on life support. 

1030
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,400
They brought me back. 
They were able to kill the 

1031
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,240
infection with vancomycin and 
all this stuff. 

1032
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,120
And I came out of it. 
I was in the hospital for 

1033
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,560
another week. 
And I came home and my best 

1034
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,080
friend said, hey, Amy, go ahead 
and get off a tender. 

1035
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,440
I got a date with this guy, I 
think his name is Michael. 

1036
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,360
And I go, OK. 
And I was curious. 

1037
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,440
I was just laying in bed because
I'd like two or three more days 

1038
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,920
off from, like, recovery. 
And I was like, let's see who 

1039
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,880
messaged me on Tinder? 
Because remember, I'd swore 

1040
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,000
everybody off. 
And there was this one person 

1041
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,520
and he had a single profile 
picture. 

1042
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,920
And it said like, if you like 
street tacos and long walks on 

1043
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,400
the beach, and my profile said 
if you like tacos and like 

1044
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,840
Mexican food, like it was just 
super simple because I wasn't on

1045
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,600
there to date. 
And I said hi, he said hi. 

1046
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,840
And then that was the end of it.
So essentially what happened is 

1047
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,480
at that point time when I 
started dating, I didn't want 

1048
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,680
anybody to know anything about 
me if I if I didn't. 

1049
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,840
Well, yeah, like at what point 
of the conversation did you say 

1050
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,440
my asshole fell out and you're 
on an easy? 

1051
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,560
There's no school segue for 
that. 

1052
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,800
I know, I know. 
So we were actually eating 

1053
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,880
sushi. 
We were eating sushi. 

1054
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,480
And he was talking to, it was 
like our fifth date. 

1055
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,360
And he was like, you know, I 
really want this to go to the 

1056
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,160
next level. 
And he's the oldest of four 

1057
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,560
boys, OK. 
He hasn't had any kids. 

1058
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,400
He hasn't been married before. 
And I look at him and I go, I 

1059
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,800
know we get along really well. 
Is it? 

1060
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,280
But I have a couple of things 
that I have to tell you. 

1061
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,840
And he's like, what I said, I 
know you're the oldest. 

1062
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:12,440
I can't have kids because I had 
a total hysterectomy and he was 

1063
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,160
like relieved. 
He was like, well, that's great 

1064
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,800
because I don't want any. 
I was like, oh, wonderful. 

1065
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,920
Number two. 
I was like, I have a son and he 

1066
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,000
is 6 and he's like, OK, cool. 
I want to be a dad. 

1067
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,920
This is great. 
We're past the baby face. 

1068
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,640
So I'm like, what the hell is 
this guy? 

1069
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Like where is he coming from? 
And then as we keep going, I if 

1070
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,000
you've ever, and this sound 
weird, but if you ever touch me 

1071
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,640
or if you ever get a chance to 
hug me, I feel like an 

1072
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,840
orthopedic pillow. 
So I'm super soft. 

1073
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,400
I'm super squishy and everything
is very bendy and stretchy and 

1074
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,920
everything like that because of 
my illness. 

1075
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,720
And so even my bones. 
And so when you touch me, I'm 

1076
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,680
very velvety and I go, you know 
why I'm so soft. 

1077
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,320
And he's like, yeah, I said, I 
have a connect the tissue 

1078
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,800
disorder and, you know, all 
these things have happened to 

1079
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,040
me. 
And at that point, he couldn't 

1080
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,560
see the scar on the back of my 
brain. 

1081
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,720
And he was like, well, I'll be 
there to help you. 

1082
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,800
And I'm like Jesus. 
Christ, this guy's a dream. 

1083
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,960
Yeah. 
Or I was just really good. 

1084
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,680
I don't know which one it was. 
It was probably both. 

1085
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:16,680
And so we went through and we 
talked about it. 

1086
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,400
And then on like the 5th date, I
started talking about what I 

1087
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,280
did. 
And he was like, yeah, yeah, 

1088
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640
yeah, sure, sure, sure. 
A lot of girls like crystals and

1089
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,760
all that stuff. 
And I'm like, no, you don't need

1090
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,360
any of that. 
That's all stupid, right? 

1091
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,640
And so then essentially he sat 
down one time with me and I 

1092
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,080
guess for like the first like 6 
months, he, I didn't have him in

1093
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,880
any sessions. 
I didn't really include him at 

1094
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,680
all. 
And then one day he said, is it 

1095
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,200
OK if I sit with you on your 
session? 

1096
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,240
Like, is it OK if I just listen 
in another room? 

1097
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:45,720
And I said, OK, So I asked my 
client. 

1098
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,560
And as he's sitting there, he 
starts to get really dizzy and 

1099
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,800
he gets up and I go, are you OK?
And he goes, Amy, I feel sick. 

1100
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,440
And I go, why? 
And he was like, I don't know. 

1101
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,920
He's like, as soon as you 
started like doing whatever you 

1102
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:04,160
do, he was like, it was like the
wind got pulled out of me or 

1103
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,880
something. 
And he's like, I don't want to 

1104
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,840
be here anymore. 
He was like, I'm not, not the 

1105
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,120
relationship, but like in the 
room. 

1106
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,840
And so he went to the other room
and he felt like instantly 

1107
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,000
better. 
And I think for that experience,

1108
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,840
he was like, OK, there's 
something going on. 

1109
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,920
It's weird. 
And then from there he started 

1110
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,520
seeing it. 
He started seeing the reviews, 

1111
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,600
he started hearing about it. 
He started, I started showing 

1112
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,920
him all the synchronicities, 
like how things work, how are 

1113
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,720
things connected, how like 
you're creating your own 

1114
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,560
reality, like all of that. 
And then from there, I'm really 

1115
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,720
just kind of like deep diving 
him into what it is and showing 

1116
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:38,000
him proof every step of the way.
And now he's like, OK, it's 

1117
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,320
weird. 
I like it. 

1118
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,320
OK, good. 
But like that's essentially the 

1119
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,440
extent of it. 
Amy I love that story. 

1120
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,600
I love it so much. 
It's like a real human story. 

1121
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:48,760
You know what I really like too?
But she said there at the end, 

1122
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,280
and this is what I tell people 
all the time, and people just 

1123
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,160
don't grasp it. 
I get asked a question, John, 

1124
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,520
how do you protect yourself? 
Why are you so calm? 

1125
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:00,200
Why are you so nonchalant when 
you're out here doing what 

1126
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,640
you're doing? 
And I always say I am the master

1127
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,680
of my own reality. 
Yes, yes, absolutely. 

1128
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,480
Hands down, I'm the master of my
own reality. 

1129
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,560
I'm glad you said that. 
That's, you know, a strong point

1130
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,280
and a lot of people can't grasp 
it. 

1131
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,160
They and I, and I believe that 
just falls into why a lot of 

1132
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,160
people are so I guess, as you 
would say, closed off, if you 

1133
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,040
will, They just don't understand
the concept. 

1134
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,120
It's like I'm the master of my 
reality. 

1135
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,440
My that's it, you know, yes and 
the story. 

1136
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,440
There's no other, you know. 
John, you've experienced like 

1137
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,720
feeling sick, right? 
I feel like that's something 

1138
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:35,320
that's. 
Happened. 

1139
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,160
Yeah, that's what they do. 
They hop in your body and they 

1140
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,160
make you get really nauseous. 
I projectile vomited during a 

1141
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,440
session one time. 
The one time. 

1142
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,200
I've. 
Your client just loved it. 

1143
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,080
When I go to when I go to a 
really, really haunted location 

1144
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,440
called Buck out here in New 
York, and after, after every 

1145
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,040
time I'm there, I just. 
And while I'm there, I 

1146
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,200
physically feel like I'm getting
this shit kicked out of me. 

1147
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,480
So it's it, Yeah, yeah, it's 
it's insane. 

1148
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,520
It's just, it's constant. 
There's no, you know, there's no

1149
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,800
if ands or buts about it. 
It's just no matter what part 

1150
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,120
I'm at, no matter what I'm doing
that I. 

1151
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,920
Know, I think that if we were 
able to see what was happening 

1152
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,480
around us, I'd be a lot more 
afraid, but since I can only 

1153
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,440
feel it, I don't care. 
You can only feel it. 

1154
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,400
I think I see that's The funny 
thing. 

1155
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,840
I, I, I get angry a lot. 
You know how we all have our 

1156
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,040
demons and our issues? 
They. 

1157
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,440
Pull off your masculine energy. 
Yeah, I am just an angry, angry 

1158
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,240
soul. 
And I get, yeah. 

1159
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,000
So if I get knocked on my ass by
a spirit, most people go and 

1160
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,400
run. 
I get up and start flipping out.

1161
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,760
You know that's good. 
And that's good because the the 

1162
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,440
entities that you're talking to,
they need that. 

1163
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,360
They need that pushback. 
And that's what I always tell 

1164
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,000
people I go, if you're dealing 
with a spirit that's an asshole,

1165
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,520
you don't go and run and be 
afraid because they feed off of 

1166
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,400
that frequency. 
That's like their food, That's 

1167
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,440
their energy. 
So what you do like when I go 

1168
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,240
went to what is it Saint Album's
insane Asylum in Virginia. 

1169
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:01,080
I don't know if you've ever been
there, but that's a crazy place 

1170
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:01,960
there. 
Was this great? 

1171
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,760
Thing I've heard of it. 
I thought I've never been by 

1172
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,320
I've heard of it. 
Oh, it was great. 

1173
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,480
I went in there and there's this
really, really angry guy in the 

1174
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,280
bottom. 
He like murdered all these 

1175
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,160
different women and then buried 
them on the property. 

1176
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,200
And everybody's like, why don't 
you go down in there? 

1177
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,360
They're like, it's too 
terrifying. 

1178
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,640
And so I walk in there, I'm 
like, what the fuck do you want?

1179
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,400
Like that? 
And yes, you can feel this that 

1180
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,840
would come across, but they'll 
try to mess with you. 

1181
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,440
But they don't. 
And as soon as you start to have

1182
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,920
fear, that's when they take 
over. 

1183
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,280
Yeah, Yep, yeah. 
So I always tell people intent 

1184
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,720
is everything. 
Intent is everything. 

1185
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,360
It's and I also, and I also love
how you're like, you know, 

1186
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,760
crystals, you don't need that 
shit. 

1187
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,880
You know, while I'm while I'm 
live, they're beautiful, but you

1188
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,280
don't need them while I'm live. 
I always, because people are 

1189
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,720
like you need the sage. 
You need. 

1190
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:48,800
No, no, no, no, I have I have a 
little song, you know, I 

1191
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,200
crystals, Jesus, salt and sage. 
I say to people, they some 

1192
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,080
people get offended by it, but 
you know what? 

1193
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,920
It's if they don't get it, they 
just don't understand it. 

1194
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,840
No, it doesn't. 
These don't do. 

1195
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,080
People are like, Oh my God, 
sorry, I thought I had a piece. 

1196
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,400
It's over there. 
People go, Oh my God, it changes

1197
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,600
the the frequency or it helps 
power up. 

1198
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,320
You're putting your energy 
through that. 

1199
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,080
Like why don't you just like not
dilute it and just use it? 

1200
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Yeah, well, and that's the other
thing. 

1201
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,640
If we scientifically dive into 
it, the purest crystals are the 

1202
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,640
are the are the the clearest. 
And people don't realize that 

1203
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,600
like scientifically the purest 
ones are the clearest. 

1204
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:29,240
So all these different, you 
know, Tiger's eye and this that 

1205
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:30,320
and the other for all these 
things. 

1206
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,520
It's like, wait a minute, that 
doesn't, that doesn't it just to

1207
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,480
me, it doesn't make sense. 
So yeah, it's it's crazy, but 

1208
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,960
they're beautiful. 
Don't get me wrong. 

1209
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,600
I have crystals all over this 
place. 

1210
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,040
Not for any, you know, just 
because they're beautiful. 

1211
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,040
Because it's pretty. 
I agree. 

1212
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,440
I agree. 
What? 

1213
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,200
What were you going to say? 
I was I was just wanted to ask 

1214
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,680
you because you start talking 
about, you know how you're 

1215
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,960
dealing with people say this. 
If people say that and they push

1216
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,600
you in one way or the other, 
look, you're running a very 

1217
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,240
successful business as well, 
right? 

1218
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:57,680
That's the thing that we, John 
will get a lot of heat for it, 

1219
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,240
you know, and he does get a lot 
of heat. 

1220
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,960
Oh, this is fake. 
This is shit. 

1221
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,440
You know, it's like all this 
stuff and it's like, yeah, we 

1222
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,080
always blow it up. 
I love the trolls. 

1223
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,600
He has moderators that kick him 
out and I would love to argue 

1224
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,520
with them all. 
The time. 

1225
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,640
And you have a massive audience.
So just like you guys both have 

1226
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,600
a very big TikTok following, you
know, and, and, and I'm curious 

1227
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,360
what you do or people are worse.
In my opinion, people are worse 

1228
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,320
than spirits in a lot of ways. 
Reddit is like, I just started 

1229
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,080
getting to Reddit to promote, 
promote this thing. 

1230
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,200
They're so mean. 
How do you, what is it? 

1231
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,440
How do you balance that? 
How do you balance that sort of,

1232
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,480
you know, or do you just, or is 
it just as simple as you just 

1233
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,280
ignore it, you know, but really 
you are trying to run a business

1234
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,400
in terms of people hating on 
you, people faking it. 

1235
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,840
What is the what is the advice 
you give other people when it 

1236
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,000
comes to that sort of angle in, 
in your, in your practice, 

1237
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,440
really? 
OK OK but #1 I just want to let 

1238
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,800
you know I have a whole. 
So I always have these Yeti cups

1239
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,360
and I made Chai tea. 
So I put a teaspoon or a 

1240
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,000
tablespoon of sugar, 2 tazo Chai
tea bags, and like 1/4 cup of 

1241
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,120
whole milk. 
I have a whole Reddit on people 

1242
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,040
theorizing what's in my cup and 
they all think it's booze. 

1243
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,760
Oh my God, of course they do. 
Yeah, Reddit is a dark place. 

1244
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,680
It is, it's a very I don't do 
drugs, I don't drink or anything

1245
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,960
like that. 
We have to talk about that. 

1246
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,280
OK, drugs in a second. 
But anyways, OK, so I I don't. 

1247
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,760
I love the guns, yes. 
Yes, we're going to talk about 

1248
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,800
that and why, how why some 
people feel that they need weed 

1249
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,280
or mushrooms to enlighten 
themselves, but then others that

1250
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,240
they take it at lowers their 
vibrational state and it's 

1251
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,840
because we're all on different 
levels and different 

1252
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,480
frequencies. 
So when you're super anxious, 

1253
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,200
you're really uptight, you're 
really like in this reality 

1254
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,920
where you nothing else exists. 
When you do smoke a little bit 

1255
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,160
or when you do take something, 
it allows you to relax to level 

1256
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,400
up or like raise your vibration.
But then as you do it, you get 

1257
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,080
used to that. 
So actually when you start 

1258
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,840
taking it, it actually brings 
you down in the long run. 

1259
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,120
So therefore you can't connect. 
So at some point you have to 

1260
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,560
realize that you don't need 
anything to connect because it 

1261
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,120
is just you. 
It was all inside of you to 

1262
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,640
begin with. 
But anyways, OK, going back to 

1263
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,760
the other thing, that's my, 
because I have a lot of 

1264
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,280
companies that are like shroom 
companies. 

1265
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,240
They're like, will you go 
through and promote us? 

1266
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:04,280
And I'm like, you don't need 
anything. 

1267
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,200
Sorry, can't do that for you. 
But going back to that, so 

1268
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,560
haters recently I had between 
2025 hundred people on my live 

1269
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,960
every single night, which has 
been been pretty poppin, which 

1270
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:24,520
is great, which is cool, but 
it's not my job to teach people 

1271
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,680
that just want I like calling it
throwing poo. 

1272
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,000
Essentially. 
They come up, I always like to 

1273
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,240
say it's like they have 
Tourettes. 

1274
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,040
You're vague and I'm like my God
you angry? 

1275
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,720
Look, they repeat themselves 
over and over tails, and it's 

1276
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,720
like, yeah. 
I know. 

1277
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,160
So I get the comment and I pin 
it to the top and I go, 

1278
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,400
everybody, look at what this 
person said. 

1279
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Isn't it phenomenal? 
Go check out their profile. 

1280
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,280
Bless them with love and 
kindness. 

1281
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,160
And so everybody. 
'S like I bless you. 

1282
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,800
I love that idea. 
Yes, yes, and they're still. 

1283
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,720
Or they get, sometimes they get 
so frustrated if you do that to 

1284
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,760
them. 
Like I'll sing to them, right? 

1285
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,400
And I'll, I mean, I'll create 
whole songs around what they 

1286
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,160
say. 
And oh, they get so upset. 

1287
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,680
And and the community loves it. 
They love it. 

1288
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,520
They love it. 
And it's, and you're still 

1289
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,480
spreading positivity, if you 
will. 

1290
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,000
You're still being positive with
it, you know? 

1291
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,080
Yeah, that's great. 
That's that's how you do. 

1292
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,400
You have you have to pin it, you
have to bring that darkness to 

1293
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,440
light and then therefore it has 
no control over you, Right. 

1294
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,400
And then from there, you know, 
with, with people that that go, 

1295
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,960
Oh my God, read me now. 
I'm a cynic and I'm like, well, 

1296
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,920
I don't read cynics. 
You're not here for a session. 

1297
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,800
You're only here for like a 
negative attitude. 

1298
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,400
When you're ready and you want 
and there's like a willingness, 

1299
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,240
then yeah, absolutely. 
Let's do it. 

1300
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,040
I said. 
Or if you want to come and learn

1301
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,320
and talk, I will answer every 
question and break it down as 

1302
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,640
logically as I can make it be 
with 1000% proof behind it. 

1303
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,960
I said please let me know so I 
give them all the options. 

1304
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,400
That's it. 
I love it's it's a great way to 

1305
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,040
to face it and I love that you 
pin the fact that you pin there.

1306
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:07,880
That's great. 
That's. 

1307
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,920
So bad I. 
Love that so much. 

1308
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,560
You know, let Amy you've you've 
given us a a great amount of 

1309
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,240
your time and I'm I'm very 
thankful for John. 

1310
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,400
I don't know if you have any 
other, you know, I sort of want 

1311
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,280
I have one more question and 
John, if you have any other 

1312
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,640
questions for. 
Great, I want to hear what she 

1313
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,880
was going to say about the drug 
use and and all that, because 

1314
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,320
it's an interesting, it's 
there's mixed feelings within 

1315
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,920
every community about it, right?
Of course, some people, you 

1316
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,800
know, it's very strange with me,
like I do or I'm listen, I am, 

1317
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,040
I'm an avid believer in 
cannabis, all right? 

1318
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,520
I have a couple, I have a couple
of things wrong with me and, you

1319
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,840
know, a couple of talks here and
there and those things go bye 

1320
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,360
bye. 
And they're manageable, you 

1321
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,400
know, which is yeah, yeah, which
is great, which is great. 

1322
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,520
And, but like, you know, there 
are people now, you've probably 

1323
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,000
heard this before, you know, if 
you spirits, if you drink, 

1324
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,160
you're lowering your, your 
frequency and whatnot. 

1325
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,920
And but what I liked how you 
said is how some people it 

1326
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,160
brings it up, some people it 
brings it down. 

1327
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,840
Some people you know, and how 
and how you don't need it at 

1328
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,640
all. 
You know, I just thought it was 

1329
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,400
very interesting. 
So I want to hear you. 

1330
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,000
But what you were going to say 
because you were going to say 

1331
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,360
more and I just curious to that.
Yeah. 

1332
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,160
So let's talk about alcohol. 
So essentially alcohol, if you 

1333
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,680
have like, especially if you're 
starting out, meeting ship or 

1334
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,600
starting out and feeling right, 
you have a single drink. 

1335
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,760
It relaxes you a little bit. 
So therefore you can feel things

1336
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,080
more. 
That's why people become more 

1337
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,440
empathetic. 
They become more like, Oh my 

1338
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,280
God, I know they weren't feeling
very well. 

1339
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,000
Especially if you're like a 
drunk girl, like that whole 

1340
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,760
thing. 
But then as soon as you have two

1341
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,480
or three drinks, it's gone, 
right? 

1342
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,840
Because now you're inebriated, 
your inhibitions are gone and 

1343
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,200
you are now like a sitting in 
the lowest vibration of 

1344
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,520
yourself, which is kind of like 
this. 

1345
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,000
You're like in your body. 
And so from there, since you're 

1346
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,920
lowering your vibrational state,
you're becoming your emotions 

1347
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,040
instead of being aware of them 
as a wave, you end up attracting

1348
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,400
lower vibrational spirits that 
want to come and hang out with 

1349
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,640
you more just FY. 
And that also means other people

1350
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,600
that are in that octave with you
as well. 

1351
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,760
That's why some people only they
have drinking friends and as 

1352
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,400
soon as you stop drinking, they 
kind of like disperse. 

1353
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,800
It's because you're not on the 
same vibration anymore. 

1354
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,040
That's it. 
You're not tuning to them. 

1355
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,160
And So what I say to kind of 
like get rid of alcohol 

1356
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,880
altogether. 
Abso fucking lutely 1000% and 

1357
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,680
people are like, well, I need it
to relax. 

1358
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,520
No, you just haven't learned how
to not have it. 

1359
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,400
You are in that same pattern 
over and over again and you 

1360
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,720
accept that that is your only 
pattern that you can use. 

1361
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,440
Change your fucking pattern. 
OK, and that's going to be a 

1362
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,360
little bit hard. 
And then also I have never, I 

1363
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,960
have so many people that die of 
suicide because of alcohol, so 

1364
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,200
many people that murder people 
because of alcohol, so many 

1365
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,880
people that die either in head 
on collisions, drunk driving, 

1366
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,880
whatever it is. 
That is what kills the most 

1367
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,320
people but yet is the most 
commonly used drug in the entire

1368
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,600
world and is socially acceptable
to be pushed on everybody 

1369
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,160
between 13 year olds all the way
up to like 85 year olds. 

1370
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Like why the fuck? 
Is true. 

1371
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,880
It's it's insane. 
It's insane. 

1372
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,040
We'll, we'll vilify cannabis, 
yes, but completely promote 

1373
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,240
vodka like it's, you know, it's,
I know it completely blows my 

1374
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,160
mind and it always has, You 
know, things are starting to 

1375
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,600
shift a little bit, but you 
know, it's still, it's still. 

1376
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,640
So, hey, it's OK. 
Have a drink, but don't do that.

1377
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,440
You know, it's, it's very, very 
odd. 

1378
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,800
I Yeah. 
Yes, I mean the canvas is 

1379
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,480
starting to get scary because of
all the different levels and 

1380
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,360
we're we're fucking with the 
plant right now. 

1381
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,120
So now it's getting stronger. 
So therefore it's causing 

1382
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,880
symptoms of like pre onset 
dementia and Alzheimer's. 

1383
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,360
And so therefore people are 
getting used to it, they're 

1384
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,320
smoking it more. 
So now you're also putting 

1385
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,080
yourself in a lower vibrational 
state. 

1386
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,160
So at some point we just have to
realize that it's OK to be 

1387
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,440
comfortable with ourselves and 
we all have to learn how to have

1388
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,080
coping skills. 
And I think that if we all 

1389
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,920
started becoming more 
spiritually and learning how to 

1390
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,160
connect and learning how to 
really feel and not this woo woo

1391
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,160
bullshit, then everybody would 
be a lot happier or a lot more 

1392
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,520
in a place of gratitude or 
content with their life. 

1393
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,440
And therefore we wouldn't need 
these things and we'd be a more 

1394
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,560
productive society and a better 
family anyways. 

1395
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,800
And. 
And and listen, I I agree. 

1396
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:13,440
And it's also a whole, you know,
going towards the needing to do 

1397
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,800
it and the wanting, you know, 
and I'm not talking about 

1398
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,560
addiction with the want I'm 
talking about. 

1399
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,960
No, you know, like, like, oh, I 
need to do this. 

1400
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,320
And if I don't do this, I'm and 
yeah, no, it can get. 

1401
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,000
It can get you got crazy or a 
lot but. 

1402
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,040
Like with you, with pain 
management, with me with pain 

1403
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,800
management, we need stuff in 
order for us to kind of keep our

1404
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,640
self level so that we don't drop
down into depression, so that we

1405
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,200
don't. 
So I'm not laying on the couch 

1406
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,960
24/7 and like dying. 
So I don't have to bust out my 

1407
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,920
wheelchair every single time I 
go outside. 

1408
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,720
So I don't have to use my 
handicap sign every time I go to

1409
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,320
the grocery store. 
Like I want to walk like a 

1410
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,800
normal person. 
And so from that, that's OK. 

1411
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,480
But when we start going into 
excess and we start drugging 

1412
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,840
ourselves to get away from our 
feelings and understanding what 

1413
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,960
we truly are, that's the bad 
part. 

1414
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,920
That's the bad part. 
So your, your, your condition. 

1415
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,480
That's a genetic, right? 
It's a, it's a rare genetic 

1416
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:04,600
disorder. 
Yeah. 

1417
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,400
So it's so, so wild, you know, 
like, and how many people in 

1418
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,560
your family have have had it. 
So everybody's dead in my family

1419
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,400
except for my mom and my sister,
because they were all born in 

1420
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,840
like the 30s and the 20s. 
Like my dad was 56 when he had 

1421
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,200
me. 
So essentially, yeah, yeah. 

1422
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,440
So everybody's dead. 
So essentially I started having 

1423
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,400
all these issues and, you know, 
started getting surgeries when I

1424
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,040
was like 2122, but nobody really
knew what it was because nobody 

1425
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:37,240
had heard about it before. 
And then randomly I went in when

1426
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,800
I was like 26 because I kept 
thinking that I kept having ear 

1427
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,440
infections over and over again, 
like and I was like what the 

1428
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,920
fuck? 
And so I went to the emergency 

1429
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,160
room, they did a brain scan to 
see if like it had gone into my 

1430
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,160
skull or something. 
And then they came out and they 

1431
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,520
were like, oh, you don't have an
ear infection. 

1432
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,160
You have Chiari malformation. 
And I'm like, what is that? 

1433
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,200
And I looked it up and it's 
where your brain is getting 

1434
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,400
pushed out of your opening of 
your skull. 

1435
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,920
And it's. 
Yeah, there's the yes, yes, yes,

1436
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,080
that's actually. 
And that actually goes back to 

1437
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,280
I'm into genetics and all that. 
Yes, actually, if I remember 

1438
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:16,120
correct, exactly a Neanderthal. 
Neanderthal genetics. 

1439
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,400
Yeah. 
And that's, that's wild. 

1440
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,640
Mental note Remember to tell 
John not to compare our guests, 

1441
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,240
especially the ladies, to 
Neanderthals. 

1442
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,080
And some of it could be like 
hell. 

1443
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,000
Yeah, I was in a wheelchair. 
I stopped. 

1444
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,720
I had to be on breathing like 
the whole 9 yards. 

1445
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,560
Like that's bad, bad, bad, bad. 
And so then I had that surgery. 

1446
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,200
And then after that, there was a
nurse in my room, and she was 

1447
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,520
touching my arm. 
And she was like, do you have 

1448
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,600
Keller's Danlos syndrome? 
And I'm like, what is that? 

1449
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,080
And I looked it up and I mean, 
every, everything. 

1450
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,640
So I went and I got genetically 
tested. 

1451
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,960
Everything popped positive. 
And then from there, because 

1452
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,200
it's such the most classic case 
of his, they ended up sending me

1453
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,800
around the United States to 
like, be on show so that other 

1454
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,520
geneticists could, like, see 
what it is. 

1455
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,560
Ended up dating one of them. 
That was interesting. 

1456
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,200
And that. 
That's weird. 

1457
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,200
But yeah. 
So I fall apart and then they 

1458
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,320
put me back together. 
Yeah, you don't know. 

1459
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,640
You don't know if he's touching 
you because you know he should 

1460
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,400
try to show you affection or if 
he's studying you. 

1461
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,800
That's what would happen. 
He would be like 00. 

1462
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,680
And I'm like, weird. 
Yeah, we. 

1463
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,800
Said so, yeah. 
So. 

1464
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,240
So yeah, you're basically fucked
because of the past ancient 

1465
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,600
humans from back in the day. 
I love all that stuff, by the 

1466
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,760
way. 
That's just so wild. 

1467
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,920
Listen. 
And I, I think your attitude is 

1468
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,800
just amazing, you know, and, 
and, and, and I think a lot of 

1469
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,640
people really would benefit to 
look at you and go, hey, listen,

1470
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,840
my life is fucked up. 
But guess what? 

1471
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,080
My life is beautiful at the same
time. 

1472
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,880
And it's just awesome to see, 
you know, it's just awesome to, 

1473
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,520
to talk. 
You get this experience. 

1474
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,160
Thank you. 
Yeah, and what would you tell, 

1475
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,960
you know, thank you for your 
time and everything else. 

1476
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,200
And you know, I'm sure I know 
you have a busy schedule. 

1477
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,480
Like I just want to leave it. 
What would you because on that. 

1478
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,760
No, that's the perfect way to to
wrap it up. 

1479
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,400
It's you are such a medical 
survivor. 

1480
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,520
You've seen survival on both 
sides of the realm, if you will.

1481
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,560
You know what I mean? 
What, what would you tell people

1482
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,240
or what's the best advice to 
give somebody from either 

1483
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,560
serious medical trauma or PTSD 
about how to get through it? 

1484
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,280
What should that? 
What is your message to them in 

1485
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,000
in that respect, knowing that 
you've seen both sides of it and

1486
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,640
you talk to both sides? 
Absolutely. 

1487
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,160
Number one, you don't have to 
carry your trauma around like a 

1488
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,240
bag. 
It's not a Louis Vuitton. 

1489
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:36,880
You can drop it at the door and 
check it. 

1490
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,920
You don't have to. 
That trauma does not make you, 

1491
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,640
You make you. 
And that trauma is in the past. 

1492
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,360
It's just, it's, it's part of 
what made you who you are right 

1493
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,040
now. 
But you don't have to hold on to

1494
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,560
it. 
And that may be scary in its 

1495
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,560
sense. 
The other thing too is remember,

1496
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,400
everything is happening to you 
for a reason. 

1497
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,520
But because we want to know 
about it now, we get upset as to

1498
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,080
why we don't know the answer. 
But it could be that I know this

1499
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,040
is going to sound weird, but it 
could be that you got your leg 

1500
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,200
blown off because there's people
that you meet, you know, five 

1501
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,280
years down the line that want 
you to help them in Special 

1502
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,240
Olympics. 
So you can help train kids, 

1503
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,480
right? 
And you're like the most 

1504
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,680
motivational person. 
So maybe that is the reason why 

1505
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,520
it happened. 
So you can help these other five

1506
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,479
kids not kill themselves because
of their genetic condition that 

1507
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,600
they have and they want that. 
You don't know the answer. 

1508
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,160
You just have to go through and 
realize that life is beautiful. 

1509
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:31,479
This is just an experience. 
And then from there you go back 

1510
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,960
to the only thing I can call it 
is God or Source or the Matrix 

1511
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,200
or whatever it is to just enjoy 
your time. 

1512
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,479
And if if you need meds, take 
meds, you know that's OK. 

1513
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,640
Enjoy the beautiful moments, 
right? 

1514
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,640
Yes, exactly. 
Because they're fleeting, 

1515
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,800
they're quick, but every single 
beautiful moment leads to 

1516
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,040
another one. 
And even in those trials and 

1517
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,240
even in those tribulations, that
can also be a beautiful moment. 

1518
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,960
And if you step outside of it 
kind of like instead of like 

1519
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,279
being knee deep in it, you step 
outside of it and you look at it

1520
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,640
what it is and actually becomes 
very entertaining. 

1521
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,800
So, so real quick before before 
we go where if the viewer 

1522
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,160
listening right now and watching
right now wants to find you, 

1523
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,800
where is the best? 
What should they check out? 

1524
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,680
The links? 
The best thing to catch you out 

1525
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,000
on? 
All of those things. 

1526
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,720
So my username on every platform
is the THE Boleski BALESKY. 

1527
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,920
That's my dad's last name. 
So that's my maiden last name. 

1528
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,520
He was just FY. 
He was the last boy and the last

1529
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,080
family member that came over 
from Russia. 

1530
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,000
They fled. 
Nobody had any other boys. 

1531
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,120
And so and I had I am the last 
of Seven Sisters. 

1532
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,160
So when he died, I was like, I 
want to make sure that like this

1533
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,080
name leaves on. 
So then I went through and I 

1534
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,640
trademarked it with the US 
government. 

1535
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,560
And so now it's always here. 
There you go. 

1536
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,960
That's why that's my username. 
But yeah, if you want to look me

1537
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,319
up on social media, the Baleski 
Experience, all the way across 

1538
01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:53,560
the board, that's YouTube, 
that's Twitter, that's TikTok, 

1539
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,160
that's Instagram. 
And then also you can do the 

1540
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,240
Baleski Experience, which is my 
website, but you can also get to

1541
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,680
that through any single one of 
my profiles as well, OK? 

1542
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:03,640
We'll. 
Definitely. 

1543
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,840
We'll definitely put up there. 
Amy, thank you so much. 

1544
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,880
I really appreciate it. 
We appreciate your time. 

1545
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:08,960
This is really fun. 
I hope you had. 

1546
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,760
Some fun doing it it was. 
Great I did I did if you ever 

1547
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,160
need me again, please let me 
know it. 

1548
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,160
It is so much fun to talk to 
y'all because it is it is How do

1549
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,840
I say this? 
I love doing podcasts. 

1550
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,440
I love doing shows, but I also 
get into shows where they're 

1551
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:25,400
like, tell me how you quantum 
healed you'll. 

1552
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:27,960
Yeah, you know. 
And I'm like. 

1553
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,360
Sorry. 
No, we want to know like we want

1554
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,320
to hear. 
Like for me, I am interested in 

1555
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,120
figuring out like what the hell 
John is talking to when he's 

1556
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,520
walking around. 
You know, we talked to locations

1557
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,080
and cemeteries and it's like, I 
want to know. 

1558
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,080
And the best way to do it is to 
talk to people like yourself and

1559
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,960
others who experience things to 
try to get, it's a data 

1560
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,280
collection, right? 
It's an experience collection. 

1561
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,840
And what is it that you 
experience? 

1562
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,480
What is he experienced to maybe 
trying to paint a picture for 

1563
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,160
people that have followed John 
and follow us or starting to 

1564
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,360
follow us about what our 
spirits? 

1565
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,320
What are we talking about? 
Can I? 

1566
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Answer one thing for that. 
So I love going to cemeteries 

1567
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,880
because I live in the middle of 
nowhere, in between like 5 

1568
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,120
different little ghost towns out
here in East Texas. 

1569
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,000
And the reason why I put this 
location is because of that, 

1570
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,080
essentially. 
And so I go out into the woods 

1571
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,640
by myself. 
My husband doesn't know where 

1572
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,080
the hell I'm at. 
And so people go, you know, oh, 

1573
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,120
are spirits just hanging out in 
cemeteries? 

1574
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,680
Well, maybe a couple, like one 
or two they do because that's 

1575
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,280
the last place that they left 
their body. 

1576
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,280
Maybe somebody fell off a roof, 
maybe somebody hung themselves. 

1577
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,760
And so they're hanging around 
because that's the only place 

1578
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,720
that they exist in the world. 
When you go to a cemetery and 

1579
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,280
you read a headstone, that's the
only place, like I said, that 

1580
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,680
that person exists. 
Well, so when you're calling 

1581
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,360
that forward, Mary Sue, Martha, 
blah, blah, blah, you're 

1582
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,240
connecting with their energy and
their vibration, and you can 

1583
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,280
pick up on a part of them that 
way. 

1584
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:52,720
So sometimes you're talking to 
memories or experiencing that. 

1585
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,760
Sometimes you are pulling 
forward a spirit from this other

1586
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,080
area. 
Sometimes you're talking to a 

1587
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,200
spirit that's been hanging out 
the cemetery as well. 

1588
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,640
Yeah, that's what happens. 
Yeah, I mean, listen, the data 

1589
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,080
coincides with that. 
I can go. 

1590
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,680
And now, interesting enough, I 
don't say the name on the 

1591
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,120
headstones. 
I wait for the Spirit to tell me

1592
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,320
who they are. 
I will, I will get, I'll get 

1593
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,040
all, all different types of 
spirits. 

1594
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,640
I'll get spirits that aren't 
around, you know, that aren't 

1595
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,320
from the cemetery. 
I'll get ones visiting, looking 

1596
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,200
for for loved ones, looking for 
people they knew. 

1597
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:29,560
I'll get all different types. 
It's not just, you know, stuck 

1598
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,080
to that cemetery. 
It's correct from all over. 

1599
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,920
You know, you can have one 
spirit buried in another place 

1600
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,000
and they'll still come looking 
for Mary Sue, for example. 

1601
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,720
Yes, yes. 
Now this is what I want you to 

1602
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,080
do. 
This is what I do sometimes on 

1603
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,560
the weekends. 
Obviously not like the last 

1604
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,240
three weekends, but I like to go
to older cemeteries from like 

1605
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,920
probably 1850 and below. 
Now mind you, I'm in Texas, 

1606
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,520
right? 
So we don't. 

1607
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,120
We got found in an 18. 20 That's
all I do. 

1608
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,680
I don't I don't do newer 
cemeteries for out of respect 

1609
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,920
for the living. 
Yeah, I agree. 

1610
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,440
That's exactly why I do it as 
well. 

1611
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:01,040
There's too many feelings to go 
along with that. 

1612
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,040
And so I. 
Want you to? 

1613
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,560
Go to one of these places, bring
a notepad and like sit next to a

1614
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,400
headstone and focus on it, call 
it forward and then just see 

1615
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,040
what you start to get and then 
write it down. 

1616
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,360
And then later on, maybe a week 
or two days later or whatever it

1617
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,320
is, go online, go to 
likenewspapers.com, see if you 

1618
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,840
can find their information or 
something and then see if what 

1619
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,400
you're getting matches. 
And that's kind of how you flex 

1620
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,920
that muscle and grow that 
muscle. 

1621
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,800
You're like. 
It's like, hey, let me see what 

1622
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,040
I can, OK? 
Yeah, that's a really good way 

1623
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,760
to. 
Do I think you should do? 

1624
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,600
That too. 
Garry's been looking for so many

1625
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,600
different ways to test to see if
I. 

1626
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,120
Test this to test this guy. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 

1627
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,920
I I think, you know, here's one 
thing, Amy, too. 

1628
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,240
We say I'm sorry. 
We keep. 

1629
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,840
No, we keep. 
Talking for hours. 

1630
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,800
We keep finding cool things to 
talk about, but like one thing 

1631
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,920
we've tested because John, you 
know, John, when you jumped off,

1632
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,120
I told her about, you know, the 
idea of memories and the theory 

1633
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,240
that we play in, in the world we
play in. 

1634
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,080
We, we believe we have spoken to
two different versions of the 

1635
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,040
same spirit, a younger version 
and an older spirit. 

1636
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,440
And we, we try to trick one once
by telling them I was somebody 

1637
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:13,520
else in the one location to see 
if they called me something else

1638
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,320
in a different one, but they 
knew who I was. 

1639
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,760
Like they said, they said I was 
uncle. 

1640
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,320
And we told this when I was his 
brother. 

1641
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,800
We told the other one I was the 
uncle, but then this one knew. 

1642
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,720
And we just to see if they're 
separated or connected, the two 

1643
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,880
different ages. 
So it's, it's it's, I don't know

1644
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,920
if like if you've ever 
experienced anything like. 2. 

1645
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,440
Different versions of the same 
thing. 

1646
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,120
Yes, they can see everything 
from the top down. 

1647
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,480
So they know that you're in 
both. 

1648
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,960
They see it all, they see the 
whole thing. 

1649
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,800
They're not in just the spot 
with you, they're not in just 

1650
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,160
the spot with John. 
They're over the whole thing. 

1651
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,720
And so they're like, what is 
this dumb ass doing? 

1652
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,760
Why is he fucking lying to me? 
Like what is going on? 

1653
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,240
Like that's essentially what 
goes on. 

1654
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,440
He's like, of course, he's just 
like what? 

1655
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,600
That's the way it feels. 
And yes, when I go through and I

1656
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,120
I'm channeling somebody, 
especially if it's like a kid, 

1657
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,520
like maybe I'm channeling like a
5 year old boy, right? 

1658
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,400
There's a reason why I'm saying 
this as well. 

1659
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,680
And so I'm going through and I'm
channeling him and he shows up 

1660
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,120
and the first thing he shows up 
as he shows up like 22, right? 

1661
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,120
And I'm like, weird. 
I was like, you lost a son. 

1662
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,240
She's like, yeah. 
And I'm like, I was like, he's 

1663
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,920
showing up as like 22, I said, 
but he was younger, right? 

1664
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,040
And she goes, yeah. 
And as soon as I say that, he 

1665
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,080
like, morphs himself down in my 
brain is like being 5 or 6 or he

1666
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,800
like compares my son to a time, 
you know, like younger, like a 

1667
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,120
memory from him. 
That's what they do. 

1668
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:28,800
And. 
And I go weird. 

1669
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,160
So he's like 5 or 6. 
She goes, yeah. 

1670
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,840
So he's like playing out both of
these ages, but it's because he 

1671
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,640
died when he was 5 or 6, but now
he would be aged up and he'd be 

1672
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,600
like 22. 
Just FY. 

1673
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,400
All right. 
Well, look, that's that's sort 

1674
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,920
of speaks to it sort of goes 
right along with what we're 

1675
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,880
trying to do, John. 
I mean, that's a good to have 

1676
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,240
other to have that experience 
happen to somebody else is 

1677
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,480
always it's validating. 
And if you ever want to, I am 

1678
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:57,920
planning on coming up to New 
York to do my next big event. 

1679
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,280
Like that whole thing. 
And I have to come up there to 

1680
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,760
go ghost hunting as well. 
And then I also have to go to 

1681
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,680
the Bel Air house in Ohio. 
And I told them that they can 

1682
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,280
lock me in that upstairs room 
because I don't give a shit. 

1683
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,120
And I have reached out to Matt 
Rife and I said sit me with the 

1684
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,040
Annabelle doll. 
It's fucking stupid. 

1685
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,520
And so because we're friends 
online, so yeah. 

1686
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,760
So if you ever wanted to do 
anything like that, please let 

1687
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,160
us know. 
Where in New York are you going 

1688
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,080
to be? 
I'm going to go to Buffalo. 

1689
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,960
OK, that's far free, a little 
bit far free, but. 

1690
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,880
That's, that's OK. 
But let me tell you, I'm in 

1691
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,880
Texas. 
It takes me, I have to drive 5 

1692
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,280
hours to go to my doctor's 
appointment. 

1693
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,760
New York is like a heart, right?
So it doesn't matter the drive. 

1694
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,120
We'll definitely stay in touch. 
We'll definitely stay in touch 

1695
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,080
with Amy. 
This was a real, this was a real

1696
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,400
treat. 
We're honored to have you on. 

1697
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,200
We really appreciate you taking 
the time For us. 

1698
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,120
It was it was fun. 
It's fun to get your whole 

1699
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:49,640
perspective and and hear your 
story. 

1700
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:50,800
I mean, your story is 
phenomenal. 

1701
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,880
It is. 
Thank you, thank you. 

1702
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,560
I love you guys and if you need 
me let me know. 

1703
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,520
Thank you all so much for tuning
in to Splintered Spirits. 

1704
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,320
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subscribe wherever you get your 

1705
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,960
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1706
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,160
If you want to see more from Amy
Bolasky, please check out the 

1707
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,800
Bolasky experience.com and you 
can find her all over social 

1708
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:12,200
media.