1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,360 But maybe you're a medium dude, like maybe you're for legit or 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,320 like a weird, like you're weird. It's weird. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,360 Well, I could tell you this, I can't fit in a medium. 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,440 Welcome to Splintered Spirits, a podcast hosted by me, Gary and 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,080 my nephew John Santa from at Santa Paranormal on TikTok where 6 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:26,560 we try to prove his theory that ghosts are the fractured 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,320 memories of the living. We spent the last three EPS with 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,520 psychic medium Kathy Nadal, and while we still don't know what 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,120 they are, we feel pretty confident that there are 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,160 actually spirits surrounding and communicating with John. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,680 The new question is why him and if we can get to the bottom of 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,160 what makes him a conduit for spectral activity, that will get 13 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:48,200 us closer to figuring out what spirits are. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,840 In this set, Johnny and I hang and discuss where things stand, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,600 tell some ghost stories and solve some of life's more 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,800 immediate problems, like where to grab dinner. 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Let's dive into the conversation. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,400 When we brought Kathy Nidal into the basement and did that, It is 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,680 a great one. And the thing, that's what we 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,080 walked away because look, OK, we were starting out with this idea 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,800 of, all right, is it a haunting or is it an apparition? 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,600 What is it that you're hearing? And then are you somehow 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,200 deciphering the signals and being talking about AI? 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Are you an AI that it reinterprets signals from 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,640 spirits that may have been imprinted there. 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,600 But bringing Kathy in there really changes the game. 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,320 Doesn't explain to us yet what ghosts are, but maybe it 28 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:45,920 explains a little more. But you are. 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,000 Yeah, maybe I don't. Know now why do you not think 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,640 you're a medium I? Just because I'm, I'm not, I 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,120 don't feel anything. There's no feelings, there's no 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,840 premonition. It's not like I hear something 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,400 go, Oh, I think this is the way it's going to be. 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,040 I think this is that this is what my inner gut is telling me. 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,960 And I got a big gut. You know what I mean? 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Like there's there's no, there's, there's none of that. 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,600 It's it's dude, the and, and I maybe it's because I find the 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,960 whole concept of energy being nonsense, like that whole 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,840 healing energy thing, that whole, oh, this, it's all 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,640 nonsense. There's only one energy. 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,840 There's only one energy that we have as humans. 42 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,000 That's our magnetic field and a story that is it. 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,440 Well, you said yourself in that, in that basin with her, like in 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,920 that room, you said you'd have this feeling of like you're in 45 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:33,840 jello. So but that's that, that's 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,520 atmospheric. And that has nothing to do with 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,120 spirits like like so far I. Don't feel like I'm in jello. 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,640 Yeah, like so like for all right, so I see your point 49 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:42,560 there. But like, for example, if like, 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,200 like I remember like I'll apply it to a bar, go to a dive bar, 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,960 right? And I'm in a bar and there's a 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,360 bunch of people, it's chaotic. People are drinking this, that, 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,960 and the other one person will walk in the room and I'll be 54 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,600 like, oh fuck, this person's here. 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,080 I don't even have to see him. I already know I can already. 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,800 I can. I feel that they're here. 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,880 But. And I do it all the time. 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,000 I used to freak out my friends all. 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,320 The time, but that must. But doesn't that go against what 60 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,880 you just said? Are you are feeling something? 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Well, because I'm not directly feeling it. 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,320 I feel the change in the atmosphere. 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,160 But isn't that what a medium is in a way? 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,080 Like they're. I thought mediums just get 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,560 downloads. I thought that's the whole 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,880 thing. Like the spirits talk to them 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,440 directly. Well, she says she has to go 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,520 into a meditative state. She does that before she arrives 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,200 to like sort of open her mind up. 70 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,560 Have you ever sat and just sort of like. 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Of course I know Zach, what you're saying. 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Of course I actually do the opposite. 73 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,920 And when I'm in a really bad place. 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,200 So like, for example, if I'm at buck out one night and it's like 75 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,560 horrible, like it's like they're telling me to die every two 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,840 seconds. They're talking about this, 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,680 they're talking about that, hearing things in the woods. 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,840 I'm there for three hours, saturated and all that. 79 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,800 I'll go to a quiet place and just. 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,120 Whenever you hear something in the woods, do you listen back to 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,680 the tape and hear it? Sometimes. 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,880 Or do you ever hear things that has not been recorded? 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Yes, dude, everything like we hear, I hear things that haven't 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,480 been that I'll hear something and it won't pick up. 85 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 I'll hear things that definitely I didn't hear when I was there 86 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,360 the first time. It's, it's, it's, it's 87 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,600 everything like there's. But maybe you're a medium dude, 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,600 like maybe you're for legit or like a weird like you're a. 89 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,440 Weird one. Well, I could tell you this, I 90 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:32,200 can't fit in a medium. That's funny. 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,040 Oh my. God, but like, you know, but 92 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,800 seriously, we're trying to figure out, we're having some 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,400 fun here trying to figure out how this works. 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,520 And it is a fun experiment of talking about you're what, what 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,000 are we right? I think people want. 96 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,240 I think that's the part of the fascination is just like, what 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,800 are we, dude? Where are we going? 98 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:52,920 And it becomes. Like, listen, one big thing me 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,840 and you have a common is we're both atheists, 100 percent, 100 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,920 100%. We both we both know that there 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,360 is no high governing power that dictate dictates all of this. 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,680 There's too much evil in the world. 103 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,800 There's too much religion tries to explain it, but no, it's 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,040 chaos. It's literally nature's chaos. 105 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,720 It's the randomization of it. Me and you could be sitting 106 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,000 there having a great time. The fucking building explodes. 107 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,040 OK, boy, that was the hand of God, my ass. 108 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:19,840 You know what I mean? We, we know that. 109 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,480 We both know that. However, we know science. 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,400 You know, science can't explain exactly what happens to us when 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,760 we die. And if energy can't be created 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,880 or destroyed, there's no way that who we are, our 113 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,520 personalities fizzle out. There's no way that has to go 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,520 somewhere. That has to go somewhere. 115 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,760 I mean, I, I do agree with that. And it has to go. 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,640 And there is look this whole. Thing whether it's our family, 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,440 whether it's, you know, DNA, whether it's whatever it, it, it 118 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,000 goes somewhere. Yeah, this whole thing has been 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,840 a fascinating process just in general for me because I didn't 120 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:54,480 believe, you know, that my reading with Kathy was the first 121 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,400 reading I've ever done. I didn't even play the whole 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,240 thing because, and I'll, and I'll admit, there was a lot of 123 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,040 it that I still, I've thought about a lot and it doesn't make 124 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,840 sense to me. And I only use like the first 125 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:09,000 like 3 or 4 minutes. Well, can I, can I interject 126 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,920 real quick on that? You want to know why it didn't 127 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,600 make sense to you 'cause it had nothing to do with you. 128 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,720 If she truly has a gift, OK, there is no way she can control 129 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,160 it. But that's what. 130 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,680 I'm saying when she got specific and, and she nailed it. 131 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,760 And that's because she was, she, if she it, you know, if she's 132 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,600 truly a medium, which she impressed me, which is a hard 133 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,480 thing to do 'cause I am the biggest skeptic. 134 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,960 You know, the fact that she literally like, for example, she 135 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,760 said, oh, this has to do with your past. 136 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,600 This has to do with this. This has to do with that. 137 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,280 No, Kathy, you were wrong. I had. 138 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,760 This had nothing to do with my past. 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,760 This had to do with everything I'm doing right now. 140 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,240 She literally brought up every place that I am documenting. 141 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,600 She brought up the train. I couldn't figure out what she 142 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,280 was talking about. Oh, yeah, I used to go all the 143 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,200 time. No, she was talking about the 144 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,800 hidden cemetery with the train tracks right there and the 145 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,040 trains constantly going by with the hidden tunnel and the 146 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 graffiti. Is it possible that she she did 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,520 a hard. I mean, it was only within a few 148 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,400 days I. Mean how much? 149 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,120 I'll tell you why it's. I'll tell you why it's 150 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,400 impossible because some of the things that that, that unless 151 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,800 she watched me religiously, which she definitely didn't, OK, 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,080 she wouldn't know about the tunnels because there are very 153 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,760 few. I don't think there's any videos 154 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,120 showing the actual tunnel with the train tracks. 155 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,160 All right. There are videos showing the 156 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,280 path, but the the angle on the path, you can't tell there's a 157 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,280 train right there. So there's no way she knew about 158 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,200 that. There's there's no way you would 159 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,960 have to, literally you would have to religiously watch me 160 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:42,080 every day for the chance of me going there 'cause it's not like 161 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,960 I have a schedule. Like, all right, 5:00, we're 162 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,880 going to this spot. No, it's random. 163 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,160 I do that 'cause I don't want to get stalked. 164 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Do you ever feel, do you ever think back or did after sitting 165 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,320 with her? Did you ever think back of like, 166 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,040 you know, I know we talked about in our first in our first 167 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,400 interview with doing this, you talked about like the the 168 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Firehouse as being one of your first. 169 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,280 Experiences. What would you say is your 170 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,440 first? Can you think of anything before 171 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,680 that? I could I could think of very 172 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,280 random things like I remember one time when we lived in by the 173 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:22,040 high school seeing like this like red like demonic face with 174 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,120 like these little like black horns all over it looking at me. 175 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,240 I think that's Darth Maul. From Star Maul. 176 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,360 Well, well, this is this is way before Darth Maul. 177 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is like way. 178 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Yeah, this is way before Darth Maul. 179 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,200 And then I remember. I remember also were. 180 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,480 You guys, you were living in that. 181 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,360 What street was that? Right by Marionachi's over 182 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,400 there, Yeah. No, that, that that's, that was 183 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,960 when I was younger younger, but that that's that's where my 184 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,760 first experience was, which is my first two experiences. 185 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,720 Were technically well. Then the first the first one was 186 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:57,960 my uncle Billy got this cursed statue of a snake and my 187 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,320 grandmother flipped. How did you know it was cursed? 188 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Because, well, from a child standpoint, it's because she was 189 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 saying it was cursed. OK, It was cursed. 190 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,080 It was cursed, it was cursed. And I remember one time. 191 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,480 This is your. This is Billy's. 192 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,640 Mom, this is Billy's mom. Yes, yes. 193 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,920 So. And this is your just so people 194 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,200 know, this is your father's youngest. 195 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Brother. Yes. 196 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,360 So he moved up to the attic, all right, And that's where he ended 197 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,120 up having this that that statue. And I remember when he ended up 198 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,000 moving out, the statue was still up there and everybody was 199 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,920 cleaning out. And I remember I just everyone's 200 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,680 like throwing stuff out. Plus there was tons of other. 201 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:33,600 Stuff. How old do you think you were? 202 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,400 God must have been maybe 8, maybe 7-8 years old. 203 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,520 And I remember them launching stuff out the window. 204 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,840 No, maybe even younger, maybe like 65. 205 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,200 All right, like launching stuff out the window. 206 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,840 And I remember saying, hey, the snake is talking to him and they 207 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,560 literally just grabbed it and, and this thing was worth some 208 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,360 money too. Literally grabbed it and 209 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,880 launched this thing out the window. 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,680 It was like a Horcrux. What are you, Harry Potter now? 211 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,800 I don't. Know I don't know, it was crazy 212 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,000 it was weird it was weird but then again I was a child so 213 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 these things I dismissed because who knows what kind of 214 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,720 imagination I'm running with right and then again do. 215 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,720 You remember what it said? No. 216 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,560 No, not at all. I just remember it. 217 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:16,680 Do you remember how it sounded? Yes, it was like whispering, OK, 218 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,440 like a whisper, like a, like a. Have you ever tried to look it 219 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,200 up? Like the imagery of it or the 220 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,800 Sierra layer? But if I like what? 221 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,800 I don't remember the colors, I just remember. 222 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,840 I. Remember being very large, well 223 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,240 to you know, a young child very large and you know. 224 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,680 Like, all right, so you saw so that so that's young though, 225 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:35,440 dude. For you and having experience 226 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,760 younger than that in the same house, I just remember it was 227 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,960 this old shitty wood panelling, you know, like that 60s 228 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 seventies wood panelling that was up in a lot of houses back 229 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,040 in the day. And I remember and, and maybe 230 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,360 again, this is just that, me being a child imagination. 231 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,200 I remember looking at all the designs in the wood and seeing 232 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,160 things in the wood and then hearing them whisper to me as 233 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,640 well. Not the same way the snake did. 234 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,440 But again, these things could just been a child's imagination. 235 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Have you ever been? Have you ever got a CAT scan? 236 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,120 Yes, you have. Yeah, I actually have. 237 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is? 238 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Your brain show. It was non existent. 239 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,440 Normal. Activity, I guess like it was 240 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 just yeah normal activity, right normal activity so but yeah I 241 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,080 did I got really sick once and I had I had to get a bunch of 242 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,080 tests but yeah I got 1 and. They, I mean I asked some 243 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,680 doctors or some paranormal psychologists and investigators 244 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,080 start from a place of a medical. Background. 245 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Yeah. You don't have any like 246 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,400 schizophrenia? No. 247 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,280 No, nothing like that. Nothing like that. 248 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,880 I don't hear things I need to, you know. 249 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,200 You hear shit, but it might be real Ghost I. 250 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,640 Mean well, that's. The thing so we don't know what 251 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,560 it. Is like 90% of the time, like on 252 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:53,240 live, if I hear a disembodied voice, everybody hears it as 253 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,920 well, you know, It's not like one of those. 254 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,320 Things you've never heard. A disembodied voice that didn't 255 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,520 come. Or lately, I should say. 256 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:01,560 Or recently it's. It's mixed 'cause there's 257 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,640 sometimes where like like the phone mic just doesn't pick it 258 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,400 up and that could be a frequency thing, you know, But then there 259 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,200 are other times when it does. And then there's other times 260 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,520 when people hear things and I don't hear it and I'm like, what 261 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,400 are you guys hearing? But I'm not hearing that right 262 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,680 now. And like everybody in the chat 263 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:18,000 is like John something just said your. 264 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Name. But you, you don't know. 265 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,560 I guess my question is you don't know whether you heard it in 266 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:24,600 your things that aren't picked up on the mic. 267 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,400 You don't know whether you heard it in your head versus whether 268 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,840 it was actually out in the world for the world to hear and just 269 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,040 so happened didn't get picked. Up on the mic, yes, yes, that's 270 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,200 the thing. And I like, I love the way you 271 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,760 said that, 'cause you have to put that in. 272 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,520 You have to. You don't know the auditory 273 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,480 responses and the visual responses that you're getting 274 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,600 while you're out in the middle of the woods, for example, in 275 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,040 isolation, no one around you in the middle of the night, your 276 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,800 imagination can run wild. What's your setup when you go 277 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,120 out? So you have this phone you have. 278 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Another 2 phones what's recording so here I'm I'm I'll 279 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,480 show you right now OK, that's this phone I actually frequent 280 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:13,160 and then these are the phones that I use for vox and ghost 281 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,600 tube usually, but I but I do switch it up with other apps 282 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,680 too. So like for example if I fire up 283 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:20,880 ghost tube. Which is the one that's not the 284 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,480 radio. That's this. 285 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:30,680 One OK, let's use the non radio. One that's this one and if you 286 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,800 see that green bar on it all right good it went down it's not 287 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,120 going off right OK, perfect because that's when you get 288 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,440 cross contaminations from electronics oh wait a minute 289 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,880 hold on let me disconnect the I have it on the Bluetooth speaker 290 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:55,480 disconnected all right start. So what's recording you? 291 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,200 TikTok. Oh, just just the one thing. 292 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Just the one thing is recording. Well, I mean look, one thing we 293 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,600 should suggest is maybe start bringing a device so you know, 294 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,200 they make things like this even smaller. 295 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,440 Easy just to have a separate back. 296 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Yourself up back, back. Yeah, yeah. 297 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:18,560 And see for that audio what's going to just start testing 298 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,040 what's going on with your magic self. 299 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,400 You might be getting dude, I don't know what's going to 300 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,360 happen. You might get an owl coming in 301 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,640 giving you an invite. I know you know what I mean like 302 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,040 through the fireplace soon. I know if this gets violent 303 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,560 because. So so. 304 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,640 But I'll tell you something like real crazy. 305 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,040 My driver Frank is scared shitless of all this, right? 306 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Can't nothing paranormal. All right, we're going to take 307 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:41,920 it. We have to take a stop. 308 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Your driver, Frank, my driver. Please tell me about this and 309 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,360 why you have a driver. Well, I don't drive. 310 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Well, I don't. I know, but it's sort of so. 311 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,880 But do you have a regular person? 312 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 So yeah, yeah, I have a regular person, person that drives me 313 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,840 around from spot to spot to spot. 314 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,040 I was spending up to up to almost $2000 a week depending on 315 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,000 where I was going on Ubers. So you're just hired, you have 316 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,280 yourself your own personal valid so now. 317 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,520 I have my Yeah, Yeah. So now it's like, all right, 318 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,520 well, let me, let me. I'll give you X amount a month 319 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,040 to drive me around when I need you to. 320 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,360 It's not like you need to wait. You drop me off, You come back 321 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,040 and pick me up. And who is he? 322 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,560 How old is he? Some older guy you know. 323 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,280 You know. I know him, yeah. 324 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,000 Yeah, you know my friend Frank, you've met him before. 325 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,800 If you say he's the bald dude, he looks Italian, but he's 326 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,240 really Cuban. How old? 327 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,240 How old is he? He's he's a year younger than 328 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,880 me. OK. 329 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,720 Yeah. You know, if you saw him, you're 330 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,840 going to be like, you're going to be like, Oh yeah, I'd seen 331 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,520 that guy before. So you got Frank driving you 332 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,360 around. He's freaked out. 333 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,080 He doesn't like what you do. And Frank hates, hates picking 334 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,240 me up at Buck Out. Like hates it cause at what 335 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,160 time? Does he have to get you? 336 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,480 Is that gonna be inconvenient? And he and he, usually it's, 337 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,880 it's between 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning. 338 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,200 No shit. So he. 339 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Hates, hates picking me up. So one night he has got his, you 340 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,320 know, he's got the music blast and I can't remember what it 341 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,240 was. And I'm get, you know, I knock 342 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,600 on the window and I'm like, yo, just give me a second. 343 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,440 I gotta, you know, make sure I get my bag organized 'cause 344 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,240 everything's all flop floppy right now. 345 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,400 You'll organize my bag and you know, it's just, you know, he 346 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,480 was like, oh, yeah, yeah, no problem. 347 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,240 But he kept the music off. And then all of a sudden I heard 348 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,400 hello. So I turned. 349 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,120 I look at him and he looks at me and I'm like, I'm like, yo, I'm 350 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,440 like step out of the car for a minute. 351 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,960 He's like, no, I don't want to. I'm like, come on, step, step, 352 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,320 come on, stop being a pussy. Step. 353 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,960 Get out of the car. So he gets out and he's got the 354 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,520 door open still. I'm like, shut the door. 355 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,920 So you're not hearing the chime of the door. 356 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,760 He shuts the door and all of a sudden you just hear, hello, 357 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,840 Just throw shit in the trunk. Let's get the hell out of here. 358 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,640 You know, like, like bugging out. 359 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,920 He doesn't like, he doesn't like it. 360 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,120 And I wouldn't like it. Yeah. 361 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,040 And, and then I'm like, I'm like, Frank. 362 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,880 I'm like, this is what I deal with on a, on a daily when I 363 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,600 come here. Daytime, nighttime, it doesn't 364 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,280 make a difference. Buck Out. 365 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 I have not seen anything visual yet at Buck Out. 366 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,160 I'll be the first person to admit that I have not seen 367 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,440 anything visual where I'm like, oh, shit, that was the spirit. 368 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,880 I've heard more disembodied voices at Buck Out than I care 369 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,200 to, you know, even admit. Have you? 370 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,960 Ever other than the senator at the Firehouse, have you seen? 371 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Spirits. Yeah. 372 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Oh, yeah. All, all the time. 373 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Compared to most people, yeah. Yeah, well, that's one of my 374 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,240 big, big issues. A lot of people feel that my 375 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,119 content is fake because of how many holy Grails I have. 376 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,359 Holy Grails being like, you know, holy grails of evidence. 377 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,360 I see. And it's like, I have a lot. 378 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:33,920 I mean, the most recent one was that I didn't tell you the story 379 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,120 about the woman. I saw the woman. 380 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:36,520 I saw the video. Is that the one you put where 381 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,080 it's like she's there and it looks like she's not there? 382 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,440 Yeah. And you put on Take that? 383 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,200 I saw that, yeah. And so I spoke to that woman 384 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,640 before I went live. I actually had a conversation 385 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,080 with her, very brief, very simple. 386 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,040 She I thought she was just a drug addict. 387 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,080 I thought she was somebody who was just on heroin, to be honest 388 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,480 with you. My first impression of her 389 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,640 Sunken in eyes, pale scare. Wait a minute. 390 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,280 She looked all cracked. You spoke to a person I spoke 391 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,120 to. To her, that what what I spoke 392 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,680 to her and very simple conversation. 393 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Oh, I love it back here. Yeah. 394 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,600 It's so peaceful. That's why I come back here. 395 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,920 All right, Have a good day. That was it. 396 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,880 And then you. Then in she disappeared, and 397 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,080 then. And then I go, I set up live. 398 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,120 I set up live and we're watching her and I keep saying, yo, 399 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,160 that's not a spirit over there, that's a woman. 400 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,320 I actually I'm not sure how. Either I'm I'm. 401 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaking to her and everyone's like John, no, that's a spirit. 402 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,040 She's disappearing and reappearing. 403 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,240 She's disappearing and reappearing and like, no, she is 404 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,280 not. I'm like, no she is not. 405 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,840 I spoke to her. That's a real person. 406 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,760 She's just a drug addict. Drug addicts don't disappear and 407 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,920 reappear, John. Then finally I not unless you 408 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,480 got some. Money. 409 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,280 Not unless you got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 410 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,280 So come to find out, after reviewing everything, I was 411 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,520 like, holy shit, the chat was right. 412 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,600 She's literally disappearing and reappearing. 413 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,840 She puffs off to a puff of smoke, I'm not sure. 414 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,640 And then reverts back. I'm not sure. 415 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,600 How either to to the spot? Where she was, which is actually 416 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,000 very a common thing that spirits do. 417 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Almost like loops if you will. Who are we talking? 418 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,400 To who do you think's talking to us right now? 419 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,040 So I did a session earlier today and a spirit named Lucy came 420 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,680 through. I don't know if that's her 421 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,440 again, though, Kathy brought. Up a Lucy, Lucille. 422 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Something like that. A a Lucy. 423 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Came through and she has arthritis in her hands and she 424 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,160 was a seamstress. She did sewing. 425 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,840 So that's how we had a session here today at 12, that's what 426 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,680 and you got. All of that in at your session. 427 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,040 In that session, yeah. Told you that. 428 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,400 What you did for a living? Yeah. 429 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,480 So which is normal, you know, like a lot of those, the factory 430 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,360 sessions here in this room don't do as well because the spirits 431 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:43,760 aren't all like blood destruction, you know, it's more 432 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,480 like actual have you ever? Asked Have you do you ever have 433 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,400 cover random is it I didn't hear what she just said. 434 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,200 She might have said random. It sounded like she said Brandon 435 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,760 random or brand. Have you ever tried to figure 436 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,520 out like really get to like where are you? 437 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,080 What are you Why are you here? What do you want? 438 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,480 Where are you going once they? Come through, they have to come 439 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040 through a certain way for me. It can't be broken up. 440 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,200 You know what I mean? Like once I so once I know that, 441 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,920 like they're responding to each question flame, you know, then I 442 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,520 know like like flame. What are they talking about? 443 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,320 They talking about the candles. Was there a fire? 444 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,320 Were they cold? Could be a million one things. 445 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,160 But once they're coming through and they're at like last night, 446 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,920 we go when we go to the building. 447 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,120 I have a surprise for you. I, I built a spirit box and 448 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:35,240 we're gonna, we're gonna test it out. 449 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,520 And I ran a test of it last night. 30 seconds. 450 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,120 And a woman named Annie comes through. 451 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,160 Annie, 30 years old, fluent conversation. 452 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,120 And then, and then I asked her a bunch of questions I was about 453 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:48,720 to get into like the, the good stuff. 454 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,680 And then she fizzled out. So there's windows. 455 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,000 Sometimes it's 20 seconds, sometimes it's 20 minutes. 456 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,720 Have they ever? Had a conversation with them 457 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,320 asking them about you, yes. Yes, all the time and like and 458 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,720 and. In what sense of like talking 459 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,040 like why me? Have you ever done the why me? 460 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,160 Why am I, the guy you're talking to, that I've? 461 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Never that. I've never asked them. 462 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,200 I've never. Maybe we'll do. 463 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,920 That over at the we could. Let's get into it A. 464 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,360 Little bit with them and see like. 465 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,040 That I've move it, that I've never, I've never said, hey, 466 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,480 why? Why are you talking to me? 467 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,320 Like, why do you want to speak to me? 468 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,720 What is it about? I've never asked those 469 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,160 questions. Now on this app. 470 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,880 The. Did you buy like a voice pack? 471 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,200 So like but they choose which voice, you know what I'm saying? 472 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,160 Like so. There's a random. 473 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Selection of voices. But you're not 'cause I like the 474 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,040 phone for anybody. No one could see this, but the 475 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,520 phone is on the other side of this table here. 476 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,640 No one's touching it. It's doing its own thing and I'm 477 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,520 just sort of curious. So basically they're they. 478 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:52,280 There is a set amount of voices on this app and the spirits are 479 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,320 apparently choosing which voice they was. 480 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,320 Cause a guy's voice or a whisper can come through at any time, at 481 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,120 any time, at any. Time, which is also, you know, 482 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600 and and and that leads it up to interpretation as well. 483 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,480 Like how accurate are the spirits? 484 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,760 Is the and? Is the app randomizing it or 485 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,720 not? Is the app well? 486 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,240 Well, that's the other thing. And this is these are the 487 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:17,240 dangers of these apps. You, you don't know if, because 488 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,600 think about it, if you're developing an app for, for 489 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,000 talking to spirits and even if it's a legit, even if it's 490 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,240 legit, let's say you actually have a legit app that speaks to 491 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,360 spirits. What's stopping the developer 492 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,680 from tweaking the code for word prompts? 493 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,360 But just to get you hooked, just to. 494 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:39,360 Get you hooked just to just to add in a little a little bit of 495 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,920 security, if you will, to the legitimacy. 496 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,000 There's so, but they still. Seem to be speaking I mean 497 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,320 they're saying you're they say my how is it too and all it's. 498 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Insane how much they say my name and one of them. 499 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,680 Said my name once. I mean, is it really listening 500 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,440 to? Is the app listening to? 501 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,120 Then throw it back at us. Suit. 502 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:04,920 Now that is where my style of documentation is very important. 503 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,240 One thing I don't do, and especially at cemeteries, is I 504 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,760 never say the Spirit's name like John. 505 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,760 Hello, what's your name so? This. 506 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,240 That's the app. That's the app. 507 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,120 Yeah, Is this the? Radio One, or this is the one 508 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:19,840 we're doing. That's the radio. 509 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,000 One that's the one you. Like more. 510 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,160 That's the one I. Like, more, Yeah. 511 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,720 So, you know, I don't say a spirit's name. 512 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,840 I refuse to because just in case, there is code on that app 513 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,960 that'll regurgitate that name, so I refuse, but we we've. 514 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,440 Said Edward 100 times. But that's. 515 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,200 Edward. Edward. 516 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,560 You know what I mean? Like that? 517 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,640 I've been, I've been documenting Edward for years. 518 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,440 So at this point, it's like if you're going to say the name or 519 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,760 not, it's still going to come through. 520 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,480 These are for like new spirits that I've never spoken to 521 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,240 before. You know, like when that spirit 522 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,160 Lucy came through, OK, Said my name. 523 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,320 She said my name is Lucy. No one said the name Lucy. 524 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,360 Nobody that you know. Nope. 525 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:00,800 We weren't even talk. I didn't even know that. 526 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Certainly. Not that's in it. 527 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Yeah, I went there. Not today. 528 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,000 But I mean, Kathy brought it up. She brought, you know what I 529 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,040 mean? But that was that was two weeks 530 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,160 ago, 3 weeks ago and we weren't. Using any of these? 531 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,120 That's right. We didn't and remember. 532 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,840 And remember, all my equipment was actually already at. 533 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Yeah, we didn't. Use the voice box here. 534 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,280 We didn't use the. Because it was all out the 535 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,440 building and everything was there for that because we were 536 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,160 going to use it there when we got that's right. 537 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,440 So this phone wasn't even there. It wasn't even here that day. 538 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,080 I know you're here. I know you're here. 539 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Can you say hello to my guest? Why do you like talking to John? 540 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,360 Why do you talk to him? Why him? 541 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:52,440 What am I doing? You get sucked up in it because 542 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,760 it's something weird. Yeah. 543 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,840 It's very weird, but that that's, that's one of the things 544 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,280 that I, I make sure I don't do is say the Spirit's name, 545 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,720 especially at cemeteries, I wait, I wait for them to say it. 546 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,080 And if they don't say it, then they don't say it. 547 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,000 Now do you think if I. Turn it on a my phone. 548 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,160 Will they? Will it come through both 549 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,400 phones? It technically? 550 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,320 Should they do usually so the data I have on that is that 551 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,240 spirits will go back and forth between between devices. 552 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,440 It's this one, right? Yeah, that's. 553 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Fox So that's the other one I didn't pay. 554 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,320 For anything, this is like the basic sort of business, sorry, 555 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,600 so. Then we the only thing how do I 556 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,120 set it up so you can't if you if you didn't pay for anything, all 557 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,640 the settings are locked. So what? 558 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,600 What but. Is it ready to go? 559 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,040 It's ready to go. Start talking. 560 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,240 It's ready to go. And we have about 300 megabytes 561 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:41,280 of of that it's will willing to use. 562 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:43,520 So I got to turn the sound on, yeah. 563 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,600 So we just can't play with the settings now. 564 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,360 Oh, I've got a reverb on it or something. 565 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:53,960 Yeah, we. Can't. 566 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,800 We can't touch it because we got to pay for it. 567 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,600 You want me to turn mine on? Let's. 568 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Just see what happens. Maybe they'll start talking to 569 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,960 each other. Oh, that happens. 570 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,360 Too, That's a very, very, very common thing. 571 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,720 Yeah, they speak to each other. And here's the crazy thing. 572 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,440 And, and, and this this got brought up a bunch of times. 573 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,640 The two apps you're running right now are made by the same 574 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,240 company. OK, OK, so one can argue someone 575 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,200 like me and you would both argue they're working together. 576 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240 They have code that's making them communicate with each other 577 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,920 like Furbies. That seems OK. 578 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,760 That seems very high tech. OK, even more high. 579 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,200 Tech than normal, yeah, but it's. 580 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,720 Still. But it's still it's easy code 581 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,240 for for the for these app developers. 582 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,440 So what happens right So. Anybody listening? 583 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,560 Any reverb spirits or is the sound coming through my phone 584 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,520 because I didn't pay for any extra sound box or voices You 585 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,040 can pay. For it to affect the actual. 586 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,160 So yeah, yours is actually going to be really different because 587 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,160 when you pay the the 1199 a year or whatever it is, you can 588 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,400 change the reverb, the echo to distortion and you can turn off 589 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,560 the setting that right now as we speak, nothing's going to come 590 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,360 through because it knows we're speaking and it doesn't want to 591 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:08,440 talk over us. You can turn that off with the 592 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720 with the with the paid. You see, watch, you see, look, 593 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,720 you see it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 594 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,320 You see how it cuts it off? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 595 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,400 So that's with that. But what happens if you take a 596 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,640 completely different app made by a completely different 597 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,200 programmer, especially a competitor 1 You know they're 598 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,400 not going to have any codes when you're going to work here. 599 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,680 You you worked here. You said that. 600 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,840 She worked here before, yeah. What did you do? 601 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,680 Here. I know you told them before, but 602 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,720 what? Why are you telling Johnny you 603 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,160 worked here? What do you want him to know 604 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,480 about why you worked here and why him? 605 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,000 My ghost is creepier dude so. Nice, I'm so nice. 606 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,000 Is that the reason 'cause you're nice? 607 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,840 I'm telling you right the now if you haunt my phone, it. 608 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,720 Doesn't. If you just cursed my phone with 609 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760 ghosts, listen. If they anything, you get an 610 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,680 attachment, but they're gonna. Attach to my phone. 611 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,880 Well, if you let them, can. You repeat. 612 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,920 You got to be like, no, you, I don't want. 613 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,640 It to attach. I don't want anybody leaving any 614 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960 ghost business on my phone. There you go. 615 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,760 I want. No, I want to have my phone 616 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,680 ghost free. You got it. 617 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,880 You should be good. You could talk. 618 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Through it but do not stick and halt my phone. 619 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,400 I love my phone so. Unless you're going. 620 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040 To give me the wordle answers faster if I turn around. 621 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,800 If I turn around and put a competitor's app on, then what 622 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,200 happens? I don't know, you told. 623 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,240 Me. Oh, yeah. 624 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,040 And what happened? I could tell. 625 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960 You this they still talk to each other OK so it's. 626 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Still with you? If it still comes through, they 627 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,440 still talk. To each other and it's insane 628 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,040 and it's like wait a minute OK, that doesn't make sense because 629 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,200 there's no way that they're gonna the same developer that 630 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,320 developed that app developed that app right so it's so easy 631 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,400 for them to put that code in like oh, if you yes it's. 632 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,960 Easy. I don't know. 633 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,240 Let's just assume it is because neither one of us are coding. 634 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Yeah, no, but. It's when it comes down to it, 635 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,880 if they can do all this, they can do do that too. 636 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,720 But when a competitor's app forget about it, then it's a 637 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,240 different story. Then it's like, wait a minute, 638 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,400 how the hell are these spirits having two having the same 639 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,920 conversation from two different phones with two completely 640 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080 different apps that have nothing to do with each other? 641 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,240 Is there anybody? In the family that has has had 642 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,840 this gift or curse listen my. Mother and I love my mother to 643 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,480 death. Then she says a lot of things 644 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,040 like oh, this person does this, this person does that, this 645 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,760 person has this, this person has that. 646 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200 But like I'm saying, is it? Hereditary from somewhere? 647 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200 I think so. Any, any, any, anything that 648 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,720 she's ever like shown me about that bullshit, You know, like 649 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320 it's like, Nah, there's nothing, nothing compares to like what I 650 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,120 do at this level. You know, you get what I'm 651 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,280 saying? I'm trying to be egotistical. 652 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,760 It's just the truth, right? But she. 653 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,040 So, but your mother thinks that the ghosts come from her? 654 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640 Her size. Grandfather's side, yes, 655 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960 however. However, though, wasn't wasn't 656 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,520 Gracie into the the the what's it called? 657 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,720 I'm pretty goddamn sure at one point Gracie was all into that 658 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,440 Italian witchcraft shit. I don't know. 659 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,440 If those guys ever they the the. The the Malokey and the what? 660 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600 I'm being serious. I'll be You got to ask. 661 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,520 You got to ask. You got to ask Granny, maybe. 662 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080 We'll talk to her about it. I guess she's see what she says. 663 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240 'Cause I'm pretty sure, I don't know, maybe it's just as a child 664 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,760 seeing all the things in my house. 665 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,600 Well. It's like, you know, like. 666 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,000 I remember these things, but like, I don't know, it's just 667 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,760 where I I growing up talking to everybody. 668 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,840 There was nothing about spirits or ghosts until I started 669 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,560 documenting. That's all I'm thinking. 670 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,880 Well. Let me look. 671 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,080 That's what I'm saying. Do you remember? 672 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,640 Do you? Remember anything about anything 673 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,880 like that? But you couldn't. 674 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,840 Even have done this 10 years, 20 years ago. 675 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Well, I was. I started doing this when I was 676 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,920 18. My first actual official thing 677 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,440 was across the street. Well, you were. 678 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,120 Recording. Well, we oh, you were using like 679 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,280 a basic. Yeah, using. 680 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,320 Basic stuff, but you weren't. Talking to ghosts like on this 681 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,080 level, no. No, because the IT was all 682 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360 playback. It was all you just put the 683 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,840 recorder down, ask your questions and then listen to it 684 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,040 after and see if it was it was more of let's see what answers 685 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,480 you rather than let's have a fluid conversation. 686 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,160 All right, so I have two. Questions one Where do you want 687 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,640 to go to dinner? Wherever. 688 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,200 I actually have you ever heard of Giovanni's no where? 689 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,960 Is it? It's actually. 690 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,520 Right behind you. One of my followers dropped off 691 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,560 to wedges earlier. It's an Italian. 692 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,240 It's a chicken cutlet balsamic. Oh, really? 693 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,920 Yeah. If you want it, you can have it, 694 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,760 But we or we can go eat somewhere. 695 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,880 I'm fine with that. It's whatever you want to do. 696 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,880 Yeah, well, let's go. Out to eat. 697 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,880 I mean, I thank you for that. I mean, but like, let's let's 698 00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,800 go, let's go eat somewhere. The second question is how do we 699 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,200 heighten your medium abilities if they exist? 700 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Some. Exist I'm I want to push that 701 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,640 boundary and then to the port. What? 702 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:19,160 How do we amp up the medium juices in you to get us? 703 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,000 I don't know to help us get answers honestly you. 704 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,960 Wanna you wanna amp up the medium juices? 705 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,920 Probably running 2 miles a day in the morning right now. 706 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,560 You think it's? Related to Hell no. 707 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,280 But, well, actually, actually down. 708 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Here's the real crazy thing. I think it's related to magnetic 709 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,280 fields and magnetic fields are related to health. 710 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,200 But here now, did you hear about the tick debacle when I got bit 711 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,080 by the tick? Yeah. 712 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,280 So I got severely sick from allergic reaction just for a 713 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,040 tick bite that I had for four hours. 714 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:55,120 It's the 23rd, 23rd of December 2024 so I've never been bit by a 715 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920 tick before and I used to work outside what? 716 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600 Were you getting less? Were you getting less stuff or 717 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,360 more stuff? I wasn't getting less stuff. 718 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 I actually cleaned the grave the next day and it was a really 719 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,400 good, good live when I went. And this is what blew my mind 720 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,040 when I went to the doctor and they did, you know, the initial 721 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,000 test, they took my blood pressure and I haven't had my 722 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,760 blood pressure taken in, you know, I haven't had my blood 723 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040 pressure taken in, you know, God knows how long, maybe 10 years. 724 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,320 OK, Like I don't go to the doctor like that. 725 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,560 So they took my blood pressure and she looked at me and she 726 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,720 goes, you really drink 3 monsters a day? 727 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,400 And I'm like, yes, dude, that stuff. 728 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400 Is disgusting. I know it's you can't drink and 729 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,040 she goes. You really smoke a pack of 730 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,480 cigarettes a day and I'm like, yes, she goes, your blood 731 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,000 pressure is amazing. And I said, I don't know how it 732 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,400 run. It's bad in my family. 733 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,480 Like, you know, it, it's not, you know, blood pressure is a 734 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,600 really bad issue. Like, yeah, I, I, I should not 735 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,800 have amazing blood pressure, but I do. 736 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,200 So I don't know if I just have a really healthy, strong heart 737 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,960 that illuminates my magnetic field and allows this stuff to 738 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600 happen. Well, imagine if if I. 739 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,360 Didn't I know? Imagine if you. 740 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,320 Lost. Yes. 741 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,960 Imagine if. You lost a few pounds and you 742 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520 got super healthy and what, what, what kind of signals? 743 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,840 What would happen? Well, dude, for. 744 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,840 Science. For science, you need to find 745 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,120 Yeah. The spirits aren't going to call 746 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,159 me fat anymore. Well after the. 747 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:18,520 Holiday. But then they'll call you 748 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,520 something else. Yeah, I know. 749 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:19,960 Right? That way. 750 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,080 That's quite ugly. Yeah. 751 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,360 Yeah, right. Now you just now you're just now 752 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,280 you're just an ugly boy, but you know you're a good. 753 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,320 Looking dude, I mean, it's like if you you know, but it's like 754 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,280 the weight is not going to last that kind of weight. 755 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,760 You got to lose a little weight. You're getting old. 756 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,280 I worry about hell yeah as we discuss how to diet before we go 757 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,400 to an Italian. Yeah, yeah. 758 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,760 Yeah, right, I think. We got to amp up your medium 759 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,280 ability and really play up. If there is a medium ability 760 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,800 dude. But we got. 761 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000 To test it because it's like this is all part of the test 762 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,719 because if you're. There's something there, I think 763 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,080 they'd be funded. Yeah, dude, more than just 764 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,760 haunted. He's a magnet for you. 765 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,120 Yeah, but it's like. That's that is true like that. 766 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,160 I can't I used to deny that if you and you if you ask any of my 767 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,360 followers back in the day, I'd be like, no, I'm not a medium or 768 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,080 a psychic. I don't attract spirits this, 769 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,640 but guess what? Followers, I think he's a 770 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,560 medium. Yeah, yeah. 771 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,440 Might not be a psychic yet, but he might be a medium by. 772 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,800 My now if you want to talk about that for a minute. 773 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,720 Please I. Believe in the multiverse. 774 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,320 I believe that our and now this is going to get this going to 775 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,000 get down a rabbit hole conversation like everything. 776 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,600 Everywhere all at once, so. So thank you. 777 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,880 So, so I I believe in the multiverse and I believe that we 778 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,280 are connected via our magnetic fields on a quantum level to 779 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,800 ourselves in the multiverse is that. 780 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Different than? Do you think that's different 781 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,720 than these spirits? No. 782 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,320 No, not at all. Do you think? 783 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,360 They're alive somewhere else is my question I guess. 784 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,360 It depends on the flow of time, but possibly if if another 785 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840 universe time moves different or it's or it's defined as 786 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480 something different than quite possibly yes. 787 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,720 So these. So these spirits might not be. 788 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,200 Might not be dead in another universe. 789 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,800 How would they be talking to this and why? 790 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,880 What are they talking through? What universe are they in that 791 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,480 they can be? So think of it. 792 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,400 Like this, right? Deja vu, Yes. 793 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,120 Have you ever? I saw the matrix? 794 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,680 Have you ever? Experienced deja vu? 795 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,120 Sure. I think everybody has. 796 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600 Everybody has, right? What is deja vu? 797 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,840 What is it? What is it? 798 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,720 It's the feeling. Of oh this has happened to me 799 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,080 now, yes, correct. Right. 800 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:33,160 However, what if that Deja vu is because of yourself in the 801 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,200 multiverse? Yeah, it it, it didn't happen to 802 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,560 you. It happened to another version 803 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120 of you. But we're all connected, you 804 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,280 think, But we're all I. I, I firmly believe we are all 805 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,080 connected And so like I, I'm really good at interpreting the 806 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,160 future from that. Like I get constant Daydream 807 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,720 deja Vu's. It's not even I've done it on 808 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:55,920 live. Hell, I did it during the brown 809 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,520 cemetery restoration. So there was a tree that looked 810 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,680 like it was going to come down. OK, OK. 811 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,640 And I'm looking at it and I shook it and it wasn't there 812 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,680 yet. It wasn't there yet. 813 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,200 And then I'm like, I'm not going to worry about it the next day. 814 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,760 I get there. I'm working in there also. 815 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,200 And I look at the tree and I doze off. 816 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,680 You see me on live, just stop working. 817 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,960 And I doze off because I do that. 818 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,480 Sometimes I think it's because of my ADHD, but maybe it's 819 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,280 something else. And then I all of a sudden stop. 820 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,000 I look at my phone and look at the phone and go, we're taking 821 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,680 that tree down today. That tree is coming down. 822 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,880 So I called up my buddy and I'm like, hey, you got a chainsaw. 823 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,560 I need you to come over here. I need to take this tree down. 824 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,960 He's like, I can't do it today, we have to do it tomorrow. 825 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,920 I'm like, this tree is coming down regardless. 826 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,120 I'm like, whatever, if it destroys a headstone, I'll fix 827 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,720 it. You know, I can't take it down 828 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,440 today. The next day we get there, half 829 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160 tree came down. Luckily it missed all the 830 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,000 headstones. Everybody was like, holy shit, 831 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,840 how did you know that? And I'm like, I literally 832 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,800 daydreamed it. I daydreamed it happening at the 833 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920 Deja Vu moment. Maybe you're more like, but it 834 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,440 wasn't. Me. 835 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,600 But that was the other thing too. 836 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,960 Like what I saw happening. It was a thinner me, OK? 837 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,280 I had long hair like it wasn't me. 838 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,160 Like that tree came down fully for somebody else and only 839 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,400 partially came down for me is what I'm getting at. 840 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,480 Well, maybe you're. Just like this diamond in the 841 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,320 rough of the psychic medium world because you haven't been 842 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,680 trained properly in order to saying I can't. 843 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,800 Join the Jedi Order? Maybe not. 844 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,520 Maybe or. You're like the goodwill hunting 845 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,480 of paranormal as opposed to like the tech worlds. 846 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,560 You know what I mean? Because you're not like trained 847 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,920 as a, as an, an academia. I wonder who we can get to run 848 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,360 you through tests. Maybe you're an alien. 849 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,200 Maybe. Listen. 850 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,200 No, but like. Maybe this day and age, but 851 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,240 maybe we, you know what? Maybe we're going to find out 852 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:52,800 the drones. How do we get? 853 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,400 You like a baseline. We need a baseline psychic 854 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,800 medium test. There is no, that's the problem. 855 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,920 There is, there is somebody. Does these tests on people, but 856 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,360 can you trust? Them so. 857 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,240 Maybe it would be fun to somehow if we were I'm. 858 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,520 Sorry to cut you off if we were able to get multiple different 859 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,320 tests, but yeah, but. We'd have to. 860 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,600 That's a different. Story, but there's a lot of. 861 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,000 Different ways to do it, but like testing maybe in order to 862 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,720 find out, it seems like this in order to find out what ghosts 863 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:29,400 are, we may need to 1st find out what you are like. 864 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,440 And really I hope I'm human and just like, how are you doing it? 865 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,000 And maybe that is the trajectory of this. 866 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,560 And with that I can tell you. This my mood effects it too. 867 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,600 That's another. That's another thing I'm 868 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,600 discovering well when you're on your. 869 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,440 Period. I'm sure it affects that changes 870 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440 everything if. I'm in a bad mood, dude. 871 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,160 Let me tell you something. If I'm on, if I'm on, if I'm in 872 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,720 a bad mood, I am. It is like all all you hear is 873 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,320 spirit chatter. Caution, caution. 874 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160 All you hear is spirit chatter. You just hear this random spirit 875 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,640 chatter that kind of puts together a story, but it's 876 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,000 nothing like something actually responding to me when I'm when 877 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,200 I'm you're stupid do full. Moons affect you at all, no? 878 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,160 In fact, I've had some of my best conversations on New Moons. 879 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,080 OK, interesting, but it's a mix. It could be a full mix that. 880 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,280 You've never noticed a change in any I was I. 881 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,080 Was at one point in time my my third year. 882 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,680 No, I'm sorry. On my second year, close to the 883 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,120 end of the second year of doing this, I started paying attention 884 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,920 to the moon phases, the tides, the everything, everything. 885 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,000 Like I go on my phone, I check to see what everything is listed 886 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,240 as percentage wise, write it down and then go. 887 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,200 And then the next day I go, same thing. 888 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,480 And I'd see if there was any correlation with anything and it 889 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,240 is completely random. And then I realized the one 890 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,600 factor that I wasn't incorporating was myself. 891 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,120 And then I started paying attention and I realized if I 892 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,960 was in a shit mood where I didn't feel like talking to the 893 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,920 spirits and I just wanted to chill and I didn't do that, that 894 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,920 it just wasn't the same as if I was actually wanting to speak to 895 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,320 the spirits. Basically. 896 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,880 I have to be in the mood. Yeah, like a lady. 897 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,840 He has to be in the mood. I have to be in the mood. 898 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,360 No, But it, dude, OK. I just can't. 899 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,040 Perform, you know, I have to, I have to be in the mood all right 900 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,120 with. That Let's go get something to 901 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,560 eat. OK? 902 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,280 Thanks for listening to Splintered Spirits. 903 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,200 In the next episode, we go back to the fireplace room with 904 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,760 Edward, remember him, and try to kill a ghost. 905 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,400 You heard that right. We're going ghost hunting. 906 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,000 It's ridiculous, but you're not going to want to miss it. 907 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,800 Remember to like, follow and subscribe wherever you're 908 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,920 streaming this podcast from and check out our additional content 909 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,800 and videos on social media, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, 910 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,160 wherever. See you guys next time.