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Welcome to Splintered Spirits, a
podcast hosted by me, Gary and 

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my nephew Johnny, where I follow
Johnny as he tries to prove his 

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theory that ghosts are the 
fractured memories of the 

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living. 
We have a jam packed episode for

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you today, over twice as long as
the others. 

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In part three with Kathy Nadal, 
our friend, author, psychic and 

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medium, Kathy goes with Johnny 
to his fireplace room where we 

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get some big spirit energy. 
Edward, the ghost we love to 

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hate, has some nasty things to 
say as usual and the vibes are 

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so intense an object flies off 
the wall. 

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Kathy, who can be found on 
Instagram at Catwitch NYC, also 

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brings US one step closer to 
figuring out what is going on 

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not only with the spirits, but 
with Johnny as well. 

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Again, we have a lot in this 
episode, so let's not waste any 

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more time listening to me ramble
on and dive into the 

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conversation. 
Yes, I'm in a beach chair. 

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Nothing, nothing but the best 
for you, Kathy and. 

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That's an expensive that's an 
expensive high class beach chair

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my. 
Top shelf, nothing shelf. 

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I bet you didn't realize. 
My fat ass so. 

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I bet you didn't realize what 
you were in for Kathy. 

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We got nothing but the best have
quality furniture in our haunted

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basements. 
I can't believe it, though. 

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When we got in here, we were 
just setting up and I said, So 

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what happened when you were 
sleeping? 

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I said that somebody touched 
you, you were sleeping. 

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He said no, that happened here. 
So do you remember at the I 

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didn't bring it up at the office
because I wanted to wait till we

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were here when she said, hey, 
you know, you were sleeping and 

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somebody, you know, tapped you 
on your shoulder and, you know, 

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woke you up, that was here. 
Whatever you got going on, I do 

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feel like you woke up when you 
were sleeping one night and you 

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felt like someone touched you. 
And I feel like they touched 

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your shoulder like a tap. 
And I feel like there's an 

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awakeness, but I feel like you 
doubted yourself. 

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But I do feel like you think 
that you got touched where you 

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live, in your house, in your 
bed, and you feel like, did that

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really happen? 
It was, you know how I do the 

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shots for coins and you send me 
a certain amount of money on 

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live and I take a shot. 
That night I was reaching my 

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limit. 
I might have had like 3233 

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shots. 
It's all for science, by the 

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way. 
I lined up a couple more shots, 

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took them, ended up passing out 
and something woke me up here. 

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I woke up saying oh wait. 
Like something like tap me and 

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I'm like, oh, wait, you know, 
yeah. 

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So it's the UUU we moment and 
that's what you were referring 

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to. 
And then when we came down here,

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she said it. 
She was like, this is where it 

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happened. 
And I'm like, yeah. 

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Also this though that story she 
she felt it in your office but 

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it happened in this location. 
But it happened in this 

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location. 
All right, so Kathy, when you're

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like. 
I don't need to be at a place 

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because it's all connected to 
him. 

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So he's, he's the connection. 
OK, So these people could be on 

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Bucket Road or wherever they 
are, they might stay over there,

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but I'm able to communicate with
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So if you took him out of the 
road, out of the room, they may 

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not show up. 
All right, so then what, if 

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anything, are you feeling 
anything just being in this 

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place? 
Well. 

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Yeah, I was gaining that it 
would be a cold place. 

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So energetically, I was 
convinced that this place is 

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cold and it's not the 
temperature of the room, it's 

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the energy associated with the 
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I could. 
I would get up and get the fuck 

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out. 
But Gary, I was an Iraq. 

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I'm not afraid of anything 
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You go. 
You guys are nuts. 

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I mean, OK, Johnny Tatlice. 
All right, So now, Johnny, just 

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like when you Johnny, do you 
ever feel anything like, are you

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feeling about that? 
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So I feel the way I describe it 
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I, I, my environment around me, 
I'll feel like, like heaviness, 

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as in like the whole area will 
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And the way I describe it and I 
describe it in my lives is the 

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VAT of jello. 
As funny as it sounds, I feel 

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like in this room, like I'm in a
VAT of jello. 

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And if there's any sort of 
disturbances, think of how you 

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would feel if you were in the 
middle of a jello and something 

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flick the outside of it. 
You know, you'd, you'd feel it. 

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And that's what what I feel, you
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So I think what he's bringing up
is he feels vibrations. 

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Yeah, he's feeling vibrations. 
So like we were walking down the

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driveway and he says I'm not a 
psychic, I don't have any. 

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I don't have any feeling of 
this. 

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Like he doesn't believe that he 
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I believe everyone has a certain
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He may not be acknowledging that
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believe he does. 
He may be trying to block it, 

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but now he's forced to confront 
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And that's why I feel he has 
this past life that he's been on

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a battlefield and everything is 
confronting. 

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He's in conflict all the time 
with the with the ghosts or the 

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past life combined. 
The the logical person in me 

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does not want to admit that 
this. 

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Room to me though, and it it has
nothing to do with the chair I'm

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sitting in. 
It feels very limited. 

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The ceiling feels like it's 
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You want to switch would. 
You remark. 

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It's just like, I feel like, I 
mean, we can stand up and you 

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could see there's plenty of room
to stand up in this room, but in

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in me, it feels like it's 
squeezing us down. 

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So Johnny feels very jello like,
like he feels kind of cushiony 

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in this. 
I feel more compression. 

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I feel like the ceiling is 
coming down on us kind of in a 

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squeezing that. 
Well, well, with the whole jello

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thing that's in that's 
everywhere as far as here, no, 

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here I feel, and and my 
followers can attest to this. 

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Here I feel compressed, closed 
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I don't want to be here. 
I stopped streaming down here 

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for a multitude of reasons, that
being one of them. 

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Yeah, this. 
Site feels like it's coming down

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on us this. 
Place, you know, just to give 

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you just, you know, I'm not 
going to give you a full batch 

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story, but yeah, I'm not going 
to give you anything. 

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But as far as like as you know, 
what I do and whatnot and I have

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a whole community that I built 
on TikTok. 

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This place almost destroyed that
community. 

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We've talked about this 100 
times here already, where Johnny

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would keep a fixed rig camera in
this room and apparently his 

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audience would go absolutely 
bananas. 

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Yeah, so maybe we. 
Can start doing what we can do 

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here. 
Yeah. 

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So yeah, you want to start are. 
We doing the same thing. 

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The same thing. 
What do you feel? 

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What do you got? 
Everything, Yeah. 

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Well, I just keep saying a very 
a symbol that I don't like. 

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I see a symbol for a snake or a 
serpent and that means like 

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trickery or people that are 
doing tricks. 

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And it actually feels a little 
bit like maybe it's affected 

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current people that live in the 
building, Like maybe people 

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complain about another neighbor 
or neighbors are fighting or 

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something. 
But it does feel very serpent 

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like where someone will look 
very friendly or it look like 

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they're like sitting there like,
oh, that snake is dead, but yet 

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the tongue comes out and bites 
you. 

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So there's something very much 
snake like about that. 

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There's also like a very weird 
reference that I can't like 

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someone either lived in the 
building that was part of like 

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the Lions Club or some kind of 
an organization like the Lions 

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Club or whatever. 
But there's some kind of a 

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reference to like someone 
holding a high position or being

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part of a secret club or like a 
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I don't know why, but I feel a 
little bomb shelter like, but it

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does feel like I'm in a bomb 
shelter or there's some kind of 

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a reference. 
So either someone went to war in

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this building or someone came 
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But I feel a little like I want 
to bring up a bomb shelter 

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reference. 
Someone's Joseph for Josephine, 

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but I keep wanting to bring up 
this Jos like Joseph, Josephine.

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I don't know if it's one of the 
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feel like I want to mention that
name and yeah, that secret club.

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I don't know. 
It's like, I don't know what 

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that is. 
I don't know if there's like a 

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Masonic temple kind of relation.
It's some kind of a secret club 

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or something, or somebody's 
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Does any of this make sense? 
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And it's interesting. 
The secret, the secret club 

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thing is, is is wild. 
I'll get into that because 

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that's where it gets. 
So it's kind. 

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Of interesting to me because I 
have to very precisely say that 

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I see like George Washington on 
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So there's a reference in this 
room that either you put money 

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out or you thought that somebody
took money, but there's a theft 

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of money in this room. 
And I'm saying like a George 

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Washington on the dollar bill. 
So it's actually feels like it's

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a dollar bill, kind of a losing 
money reference. 

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And I don't know if you've 
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there's a Sam or a Samuel. 
There is a Samuel. 

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Yeah, I think there's a 
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Big connection, yeah. 
Yeah, it's crazy. 

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And you know, it's weird though,
because I'm standing here, like 

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facing the camera. 
They're telling me to turn 

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around. 
So something's behind me. 

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Yeah, no, it's. 
How do you pass Samuel make you 

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feel? 
Samuel, I don't like him. 

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He's the one that's he's telling
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other room, someone would you 
understand, teasing you or 

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something. 
But they're saying like you 

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should give the guy a tie, like 
a long straight tie. 

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So whatever Samuel's been 
involved in, he has to make some

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comments, like being a proper 
dress man or something. 

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He's kind of mocking you, like 
why don't you put a tie on or 

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something? 
But there's you have something 

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to do with this room that's next
to where we're standing. 

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Well, that room completely was a
huge part of my life at one 

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point. 
Well, he's talking about you 

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being in that room and he's 
talking about you working on 

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wood and he's showing me like 
you have a nail and a hammer. 

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You made stuff or you were 
making furniture or something in

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that room. 
But he said he was watching you 

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working on things with tools and
and hammering and nails and 

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whatever. 
But he was watching you do all 

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that work in that other room. 
And he said, you know, you never

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took a break. 
You should have had a meal. 

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You will you forget about eating
when you're in this room or 

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something because he says you 
didn't get, you didn't get a 

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break. 
There's another name like Frank 

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or Franklin or some kind of a 
Frank name. 

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And I don't know why that's 
coming up. 

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And whatever the water is, it 
has something to do with this 

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building. 
But they also said one of them 

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is connected to a river. 
So they said throw them in the 

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river. 
Somebody is like a murderer. 

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Somebody threw someone in the 
river, or someone got rid of 

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somebody and threw them in the 
river. 

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It's like tossing a body. 
So I don't know if it's one of 

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those guys. 
They're here for you. 

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You're the connector. 
Honestly, if somebody else was 

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here, they may not even see 
anyone or talk to anybody. 

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That's what I get. 
You're the connector. 

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I think this goes back to your 
days on the train. 

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I think that they found you as 
an attachment going back to the 

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days on the train. 
And there's some guy that wears 

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a Navy hat. 
Some guy was like wearing a Navy

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hat. 
Navy hats are very different. 

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And this one looks very much 
like he's it's not a sailor hat,

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but it's a Navy hat. 
I have to draw a picture of it, 

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but it's a dark blue hat and 
it's a Navy hat. 

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There's also a little bit of a 
comments on you were here. 

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I don't know what is this? 
They're saying you were here on 

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New Year's Eve and they said 
there's a significant thing 

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about you being in this room on 
New Year's Eve. 

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They know it was New Year's Eve.
They're showing me like a New 

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Year's Eve hat that says happy 
New Year on it and they want to 

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bring it up. 
Do you understand? 

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That do you understand? 
That yeah. 

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And they said they were here 
during that. 

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That was the that was the what 
to say. 

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The turning of the tide, if you 
will. 

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They're talking about something 
that happened outside the 

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building. 
I have to justify this. 

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It was snowing. 
There was a lot of snow and 

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there was a problem on the 
property with two neighbors or 

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two tenants and it has something
to do with clearing of the snow.

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And it was a big fight. 
And they is that correct? 

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They want to. 
That was actually a very 

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significant, significant thing 
that happened here while I was 

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here is super so. 
They want to bring that up 

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though, because that goes back 
to the serpent symbol. 

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Yep, Yep, 100%. 
That's right. 

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These people have this. 
Yeah. 

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What is it? 
What? 

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I was wondering, I was wondering
if she if you were going to pick

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up on that. 
What is it? 

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That's actually quite wild. 
What is it, John? 

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Tell, tell the story, can you? 
So should I get into it now? 

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Because if I'm going to get into
it, I'm going to get into it 

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want. 
To keep going, yeah. 

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Keep going. 
Yeah, keep going. 

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Keep going. 
There's something about. 

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I don't know if I could say 
this, so I'm just going to say 

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it. 
Say it please. 

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There's a triangle in this 
building. 

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So it's you and two other 
people. 

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So what is the triangle? 
It's you against these two 

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people. 
There's like I keep seeing a 

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triangle. 
There's two people in the 

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triangle. 
Yeah, they're not alive, but 

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yeah, yeah, there is. 
You could. 

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You could call it a triangle. 
You could call it a an 

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opposition if you will. 
Did you also have some kind of a

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connection to someone being from
Scotland or Scottish? 

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Wow, What's? 
What's Wow? 

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Keep going. 
It's not no connection with me, 

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it's a connection with this 
place. 

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Yeah, it it's kind of 
interesting because I have to go

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back in time, but there's 
someone that was like an 

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originator here and they have 
big feet or they make boom boom 

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boom when they walk and. 
Pompous like huh? 

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Big feet boom boom, boom, and 
it's very much like the people 

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are afraid of that person. 
Yes, they are. 

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And it's like someone who's 
walking around holding like a 

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hand grenade, threatening 
people, like I'll just pull the 

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pin any chance I get. 
Like that sounds like it's very 

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much like that. 
And it's interesting because 

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there's like a real, there's a. 
Can you picture his face? 

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Well, I, I have to tell you what
I see, he has a real life 

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quality to him. 
So he was a real person at one 

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time and he gives me this 
feeling that he didn't realize 

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what he was doing. 
He thought he was plugging 

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holes. 
He was plugging holes, he was 

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making fixes. 
So instead of fixing it the 

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right way, he would just plug 
the hole. 

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He didn't do things the right 
way and he was just plugging 

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holes. 
He's very tall and his, I guess 

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he has a bit of a high hair or 
like a high hair in the front 

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because it feels like he's 
either wearing a hat or he has 

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high hair. 
But I feel like I want to 

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mention the top of his head and 
he's a little kind of like a 

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maverick. 
He gives me a real maverick 

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energy. 
Like he just does whatever he 

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wants. 
Are you are you picturing him 

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younger or older? 
I don't know, maybe mid age. 

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OK, he's not a little boy at 
all. 

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This is a man that walks. 
Boom boom boom. 

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With his feet. 
Very arrogant. 

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No, like you wouldn't. 
Believe I'm 3000 miles away and 

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I want to run. 
Yeah, it's interesting. 

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This guy is a pistol. 
He's a pain in the neck. 

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He talks about things being two 
ways his way. 

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He's like he would do it my way.
And he keeps showing me, wearing

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boots. 
Feel like he's stomping his foot

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like this. 
I'm stomping my foot now. 

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All right? 
I think I'm done. 

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Yeah. 
OK. 

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OK, well let me I'm going to 
show you a picture Now if you 

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had to age this person, the 
person from Scotland that you 

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saw, would that. 
Yeah, that's him. 

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That's him. 
That's him. 

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I don't know who this guy is, 
but when I saw him his hair is 

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darker. 
His hair was a bit more. 

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I saw him younger than this. 
Yeah, he was. 

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When he was here. 
He was a, he was, he was 

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younger. 
I mean, even when he was old, he

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was here too. 
He was, you know. 

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He has. 
But there's no there's no 

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younger pictures of him, 
unfortunately. 

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Darker hair to me, but his Yeah,
this is the guy with the face. 

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All right, so hold on. 
Let let me say this, because the

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most prominent thing you spoke 
about was the serpent. 

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Let's talk about that real 
quick, and then I'm going to 

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fire up the spirit boxes. 
Everything you said did have 

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references or could have, 
because there's a lot of spirits

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here. 
But the spirits here talk about 

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an order of the Serpent and it 
is a group of men, a secret 

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society that do that have done 
sacrifices. 

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Oh. 
My God. 

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Frank is one of those names led 
by this man. 

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Oh, wow. 
And that's why when you were 

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like, you know, the serpent, 
like deceiving on, like bringing

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up the order of the Serpents, 
you're going to pick up that 

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like right off the bat, which is
wild. 

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The spirits that it's come 
across on my spirit boxes all 

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the time back in the day, 
especially when I used to 

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document here hardcore. 
So that's wild. 

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Edward, his name is Edward. 
You're gonna hear from him soon 

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unless he decides to be a piece 
of shit and not say anything, 

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which is a possibility. 
He's from Scotland. 

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And what's funny is you bring up
the whole like, you know, Jaws 

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and the whole, like, boat 
captain in his history. 

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He sailed up and down the Byram 
and Hudson rivers, basically 

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accumulating his wealth, selling
wares and whatnot, and also in 

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the streets of New York City, 
panhandling. 

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So I wonder if he threw someone 
in the river. 

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Probably. 
Probably when you say. 

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Six shot. 
Six shot. 

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Well, yeah, when you, when you 
said, when you were talking 

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about all that, I was like, oh, 
that's right. 

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When you said Scotland, I was 
like. 

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Yes. 
OK, Johnny, tell me the 

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significance of New Year's Eve. 
So. 

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What was it? 
So that that's now I'm going to 

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get into all this with the order
of the serpents and all that the

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spirits here speak of, and this 
goes into the whole Greek 

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mythology and whatnot, speak of 
something called the Nexus. 

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OK, they call it the Nexus 
portal. 

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They say it's an old and as 
crazy as it sounds, they say 

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it's an old ancient portal that 
formed when the Earth started 

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rotating, as in it's tied to the
Earth's magnetic field. 

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And they said it's here. 
It's actually out in the in the 

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driveway. 
According to the spirits, 

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there's a tunnel underneath the 
driveway and that goes into the 

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horses. 
I'll get back into all that 

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after. 
So this guy, Edward and this 

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order were supposedly 
sacrificing people, especially 

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children, especially ones that 
were displaced during the Civil 

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War and whatnot, and sacrificing
them to this Nexus for power, 

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wealth, whatever. 
I don't know what what they were

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doing, what they believed was 
going on, but this place was 

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extremely toxic. 
Even afterwards, even decades 

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afterwards. 
You talk about the fighting and 

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the way things were. 
This place was bad. 

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The woman that fell outside, 
when you talked about the 

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dispute between the two people, 
that wasn't sad, That wasn't a 

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debt with the snow, that wasn't 
a dispute. 

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There was an old woman here, one
of the most pleasant spirits 

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that I have ever spoke to. 
I knew her in life because she 

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was still living here. 
She fell outside and cracked her

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head open, and she survived, but
she ended up dying a couple 

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months later. 
She survived the fall, but she 

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bled in the driveway. 
And that's what woke everything 

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up here. 
And that's what made this place 

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go fucking berserk. 
And it had to do with that 

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instant. 
So I was surrounded by 

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negativity when I mean, I mean 
negative, like everything here 

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was negative. 
The spirits were all the 

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spirits, almost like where they 
were affected by it, it was 

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negative. 
And then one day I said to 

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myself, what can I do? 
I have all these people watching

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me. 
What can we do to counteract all

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this negative shit? 
And I and I started doing what I

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call the battle for Saint Jude. 
And it's when me and in my 

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community, we get together and 
we raise money for Saint Jude. 

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And it was on New Year's that we
started it. 

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It was New Year's where we 
donated the money. 

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And just that act alone of all 
of us getting together shifted 

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this place, put the power back 
in my hands and I was starting 

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to be able to not be affected 
about it as much. 

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Let's just put it this way. 
If this was before that New 

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Year's, these candles would have
been thrown at us already. 

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Mirrors would have got these 
mirrors here are that is the 

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second door mirror that's 
original to the building. 

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By the way, that's been 
shattered on live all right, the

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spirits have just shattered that
same thing that that's not an 

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original mirror either. 
That's that's that went up last 

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year, but when I had there was 
shattered. 

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I'll show you the video too. 
You know when we're done. 

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They, they used to be insane 
here. 

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Now that we shifted the balance 
or as the spirits, they shifted 

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the Nexus in in in our favor, 
things quieted down. 

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The only thing that remains 
still vile and violent is 

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Edward, and he comes through 
constantly. 

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And I guarantee we're going to 
hear him come through. 

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That's why I. 
Let's here, let's let's, let's, 

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let's do it. 
Let's do it. 

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And that's why I said at the 
office, I apologize in advance 

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for anything that he says. 
Well, Johnny sets up the voice 

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box apps. 
I want to remind everyone that 

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Kathy has officially made us 
question our belief system. 

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Or at least she's made me 
question mine. 

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This isn't some magic trick. 
She's dropping symbols and 

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specifics that would have taken 
weeks of research and years of 

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watching Johnny's live feed to 
know. 

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I'm excited to see what happens 
when the spirit boxes are on. 

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I'm excited to see if we get any
ghost talking. 

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I'm really excited to hear what 
Edward has to say if he shows 

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up. 
And when I say I'm excited, I 

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mean I'm absolutely terrified. 
The ghost just said which and 

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that's going to be important 
later on. 

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Rest in peace. 
Rest in peace. 

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Rest in peace. 
OK, I'll quite look. 

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Hello, spirits. 
Spirits, how many people are 

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sitting in this? 
How many people are sitting in 

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this room right now? 
I need you to speak a little 

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clearer, please. 
Am IA Ghost. 

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Yes. 
How is this? 

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Please? 
Sound like I heard the course 

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of. 
Who's this? 

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Would you like to introduce 
yourself? 

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Hi, my name is Kathy and I'm a 
professional psychic meeting. 

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I came to sit with Johnny in 
this but. 

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Each of the, and so on. 
Edward. 

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I heard someone ask am IA am IA 
ghost before. 

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Yeah, 111 of the spirits asked 
one of the if they were a a 

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ghost. 
That's that's a common thing. 

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I want to speak to Edward. 
It's to mine. 

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Another ruin. 
Crunching. 

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We're not going in another room.
Maybe he wants me in another 

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room. 
Maybe. 

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Well I, I I just heard a swear 
saying leave here but through a 

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wire. 
Kathy, does it feel different 

455
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:36,720
when you hear these sounds? 
Does it change the overall vibe 

456
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,240
of the room? 
No, it feels the same to me. 

457
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,920
Meteor, No, we're not leaving 
here. 

458
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Why do you want us to leave? 
And Kathy, do you, do you pick 

459
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,440
up the same sort of vibe from a 
haunting as you would an 

460
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,160
apparition in this, in the 
definition of what a haunting is

461
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,520
versus an apparition? 
I don't want. 

462
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,000
I think for me apparition is 
actually seeing content ghost 

463
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,040
like seeing it in front of you. 
Haunting to me is more like the 

464
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,280
imprint of someone having lived 
their life. 

465
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,920
Spirits is Edward here? 
Is that I'm. 

466
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,360
Hope. 
Down where traveled. 

467
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,680
Leave this place. 
Absolutely not, dude. 

468
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,080
I would be up and out. 
Absolutely not. 

469
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000
That's. 
That's the voice Edward uses 

470
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,800
full. 
I guarantee that's Edward coming

471
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,800
through right now. 
So what's the matter, Edward? 

472
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,640
I also call him Cupcake, by the 
way. 

473
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,000
Cupcake. 
Yeah, I gave him a nickname. 

474
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,400
He doesn't like it very much. 
Right, Cupcake, they have. 

475
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,520
Kathy, what is your feeling on 
taunting spirits? 

476
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,920
I don't. 
I don't agree with taunting 

477
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960
spirits. 
I've just never done it. 

478
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,120
Did you know? 
Ask them questions, you know, 

479
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040
I'm you know, this is their 
space. 

480
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840
I fight for the Nexus. 
I fight for the Nexus. 

481
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Really don't. 
You just hear what that just 

482
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,520
said, fight for the Nexus, and 
it just said it just said turn 

483
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760
off. 
I agree with you by the way, I'm

484
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560
not a fan of something spirits 
Edward on there the other hand 

485
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,200
start shit with me, so I that's 
why I. 

486
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,400
I always ask them about them or 
tell them that I'm here, I want 

487
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,520
to learn from them. 
Yeah, I agree with you 100%. 

488
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,160
I am not a fan of taunting 
spirits. 

489
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,000
I think it's, it's just not 
something on the I get, I get a 

490
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360
lot of, by the way, a lot of 
people in the paranormal 

491
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,920
community, they're all about 
taunting spirits and I don't 

492
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,040
like. 
Undecided. 

493
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120
I don't like it either. 
Spirits, tell us about the 

494
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Nexus. 
It's interesting. 

495
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,520
They said fight for the Nexus. 
Tell us about the Nexus. 

496
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,720
Nexus. 
Nexus just said it again, 

497
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,240
Edward, I think you're a little 
scared, man. 

498
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,680
Wow. 
That's nice. 

499
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,080
To talk. 
Well, talk to us. 

500
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,120
We want to talk to you for once.
I want to. 

501
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,320
I want to introduce you to my 
friend Kathy. 

502
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,720
She has a special gift. 
Hello Child. 

503
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,200
Who wants to say something to 
me? 

504
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,440
Tell me your name. 
I was now. 

505
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,280
What's your name? 
Kathy, let me ask you something.

506
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Of all the cases, the readings 
you've done, the places you 

507
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:56,400
visited, what do you, what do 
you think is going on here with 

508
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,080
John and his ability here to 
talk to spirits? 

509
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,280
And you know, and sort of this 
theory of his that these are 

510
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520
spirits are attached, you know, 
their memories have been 

511
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,200
dispersed and that's what he's 
dealing with versus a being on 

512
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,720
the other side. 
How would you what would you 

513
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,160
define what you're feeling and 
seeing and hearing? 

514
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:32,160
I I could just, I'm preparing a 
lot of information that is going

515
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,080
on around him. 
Shall be. 

516
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,360
And the information I have is 
what they're giving to me. 

517
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,160
So I think it's connected to 
him. 

518
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,120
I think if you brought in 
someone else, they wouldn't be 

519
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560
having these experiences. 
Hey. 

520
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Please. 
Try I I think it's of like what 

521
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,440
you would call an attachment. 
Edward, be nice. 

522
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,240
So what I feel is that whatever 
he did in his life, and I think 

523
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,360
that he has a level of psychic 
ability and I feel like that 

524
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,280
started when he was probably 
around 10 or 11 years old, may 

525
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,640
not be aware of it. 
I do believe that when he 

526
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,960
started travelling on the trains
it feels more like there was 

527
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,360
spirit activity around him then 
and he may have formed an 

528
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:27,320
attachment with spirit that he 
hasn't manifested until he's in 

529
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,480
a very infested area. 
So when you say when you use the

530
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,320
word attachments, I mean we've. 
It's like he's attached to the 

531
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,680
Spirit. 
So is it the spirit itself or is

532
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,880
he like in another words we've 
been saying like maybe Johnny is

533
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,520
some sort of like we, we've been
using the phrase tech medium 

534
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720
because it seems to be working 
through the tech somehow even 

535
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,440
stronger than like unlike you 
who could be in the room and 

536
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,960
you're getting them directly. 
He's getting them through the 

537
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,000
tech or it's strengthening or 
heightening. 

538
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,400
It is that I don't know if 
that's possible, but it is he 

539
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,360
some sort of a nobody? 
Knows. 

540
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160
I mean, well, well, maybe Kathy 
knows. 

541
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Why don't you let me just ask 
you the question? 

542
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040
He just said nobody knows. 
Are you saying like his 

543
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,200
connection could make him a 
medium in his own right? 

544
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,320
Yeah, I think that. 
I think I believe in my life 

545
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,440
that every living person has a 
level of psychic ability. 

546
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,000
People may or may not embrace 
it. 

547
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,440
Have you? 
Been before. 

548
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,880
But I do feel like he has some. 
Follow. 

549
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,480
You and I feel that the they're 
easy to connect with him because

550
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,120
he he probably does have medium 
qualities, but he doesn't use 

551
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,760
them like I use mine. 
Or maybe he doesn't believe in 

552
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,040
doing it the way I do it, so 
they communicate with him the 

553
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,840
only way they know how and he's 
able to produce results by using

554
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,280
these spirit boxes. 
I do. 

555
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,320
What I found out today. 
Why are you here? 

556
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:12,040
I'm here to talk to you. 
I'm here thank you to validate 

557
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,920
what Johnny's been going through
because I've been able to 

558
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,600
communicate with all the spirits
that are connected to Johnny and

559
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,480
either Johnny's out on another 
location. 

560
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,520
These spirits are around Johnny.
So Johnny is the is the magnet. 

561
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,880
They're magnified or they're 
connected to Johnny. 

562
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:44,000
He's the magnet to them. 
Jesus, that's what I feel like. 

563
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,800
So I feel like if you brought 
in, you know, another person, 

564
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,240
you know, and they sat in front 
of the spirit box, maybe that 

565
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,400
would be activity, but they 
wouldn't be able to create the 

566
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,640
story around it. 
The way he's been able to do it 

567
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,240
would be random voices. 
Like when I'm sitting here, I 

568
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,800
never use equipment. 
I could barely make out what 

569
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,800
they're saying half the time. 
But he's been able to create and

570
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,760
identify who you are. 
I know you're right here. 

571
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,520
We're talking about you. 
So I don't know. 

572
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,760
I mean, I think me being here is
really important because if 

573
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,600
anything invalidates the life 
he's been living and I'm sure 

574
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,199
Johnny's life, doing this can't 
be easy. 

575
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,840
I mean, he takes on a level of 
responsibility. 

576
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,159
He takes on a level of 
frustration. 

577
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,480
You know, he he's taking on a 
lot communicating with them 

578
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,239
because, you know, I mean, it's 
I guess a form of entertainment.

579
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:51,760
But you know, the other side of 
it is you know they're there's 

580
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,760
still validating their lives 
through him. 

581
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,720
It could be a lot too. 
You're 100% correct. 

582
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,000
It is a lot. 
That's why the lady in spirit, 

583
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,600
when I was at the other 
location, kept sending him 

584
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,080
hearts, talking about him having
love in his life, you know, to 

585
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,360
balance it out. 
You know, it's funny you say 

586
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,520
that because I'll go to like a 
dark place, like Buck out, and 

587
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,040
then the next day for like my 
noon session, I go to this 

588
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,400
beautiful cemetery that 
overlooks the Atlantic Ocean in 

589
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,120
Connecticut. 
I can't. 

590
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,560
There's 3. 
It is. 

591
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,880
There is three of them, but this
one is the best spot to do it. 

592
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,200
Oh, she's Johnny. 
Sorry. 

593
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,840
Hold on. 
There's three. 

594
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,160
We talked about this triangle 
before. 

595
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,920
That's right, yeah. 
But that could also be the the 

596
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,000
cemetery I'm talking about has 
three different levels. 

597
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:48,200
One spot. 
Oh, wow, is overlooks the the 

598
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,240
headstones and then the Atlantic
Ocean. 

599
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,920
It is the most peaceful place 
you can go and, like, detox 

600
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,080
yourself. 
Yeah, as you know, as far as 

601
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,160
like. 
We missed. 

602
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,760
No, not yet. 
I just came here to meet you. 

603
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,040
You are the only person on 
earth. 

604
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,760
You're the only person on earth 
I know who would go to detox at 

605
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,600
a cemetery, by the way. 
Yeah, we have a very different 

606
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,160
definition of what it means to 
detox and relax. 

607
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:20,160
I'm more about like, you know, 
resorts, pools, cocktails. 

608
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,800
I'm in. 
The last one crack open a 

609
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,560
monster and walk out at the 
water. 

610
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:29,480
Oh my God. 
Wow. 

611
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,480
But I do think, Gary, that this 
having me here validates the 

612
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,680
spirits that he's been 
experiencing. 

613
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,000
I do too. 
I mean, it's, it's something 

614
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080
the. 
Spirit boxes and all of that, 

615
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,440
you know, just flat out, you 
know. 

616
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,840
It's good to have a 
corroborating witness who feels 

617
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,840
the same things that we're 
hearing. 

618
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,120
Yeah, well, I like that I was 
able to get so much stuff 

619
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,400
without any spirit boxes just 
coming in flat, you know? 

620
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,280
Yeah, no. 
When you picked up on the whole 

621
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,840
serpent, I was like, whoa, like,
that's why? 

622
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,800
Because that is something that 
has been spoken about in the 

623
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,720
past and at great length. 
So the history here is is in 

624
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:17,280
depth. 
There is a lot. 

625
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,720
There is a lot. 
And this place has seen so many 

626
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,760
people, so many faces. 
It had a lot of death. 

627
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,960
Wow, yeah. 
So, but the whole serpent thing,

628
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,000
that's the most wild. 
Don't leave me. 

629
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,080
Oh, where I'm I'm leaving soon. 
Oh. 

630
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,240
My gosh. 
But that was the. 

631
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680
It's crazy, right? 
Like how clear and? 

632
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,920
Like it is very clear, I know. 
Louder. 

633
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,120
Yeah, it was loud. 
So that was actually the the the

634
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,800
turning point for me not 
documenting down here was my 

635
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,520
daughter. 
Give it back. 

636
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,240
My wife came down here with my 
daughter one time. 

637
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,840
I was live. 
Stop recording. 

638
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,440
No, we're not going to stop 
recording. 

639
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,600
So she came down here and also 
give it back. 

640
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,520
Edward started talking to her 
and you know, it was really 

641
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,840
creepy. 
And I was like, I'm done. 

642
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,720
I was like, I'm done with this 
place. 

643
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,640
I did it for three years. 
I documented it. 

644
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,080
I got all the information I I'm 
going to get. 

645
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,680
I was like, it's not. 
I don't want something that vile

646
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,720
speaking to my daughter. 
What was he saying? 

647
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,440
He was like, hello, little girl,
how are you? 

648
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,160
What are you doing? 
You know, it was it, but it was 

649
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,720
it was the tone. 
Everything was just so creepy. 

650
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Wow. 
It was like not yes, yes, you 

651
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,960
were. 
Don't even don't even see even 

652
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,560
that spirit saying it. 
And even I mean right there, 

653
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,560
even another spirit was like, 
yes, that happened. 

654
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,400
He's saying no and the other 
spirits like yes, Wow. 

655
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,280
Because the other spirits here 
don't like Edward either. 

656
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,240
I mean, obviously. 
So, Edward, why did you do that?

657
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,360
Yeah, and we're we're not on 
TikTok. 

658
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,880
We could. 
We could fully talk about that 

659
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,160
right now. 
Why don't you talk to me now? 

660
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,720
Don't be shy about it. 
You're proud about the things 

661
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,160
you've done. 
Am IA Ghost. 

662
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,920
I don't know, are you? 
Is he being extremely quiet 

663
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,120
because I'm here? 
Really. 

664
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,560
Well, and I also have another 
theory too, because it's not 

665
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,680
just you. 
Like if like I have somebody 

666
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,440
with me and I believe this has 
to do with my magnetic field, 

667
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,280
they get less, they get less, 
they don't talk as much. 

668
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,040
It's the weirdest thing. 
Like if I can have another 

669
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,640
random person here who has 
nothing to do with anything, 

670
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,200
they'll still. 
Clamp down. 

671
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,160
They'll talk a little bit, but 
not as much as normally if I'm 

672
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,440
just sitting here by myself, and
I think that has something to do

673
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,800
with my magnetic fields. 
What does that mean? 

674
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,840
Your magnetic. 
Fields So you know how people 

675
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,120
talk about oh, your energy, your
energy, your energy. 

676
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,560
The only energy we really do 
scientifically is our magnetic 

677
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880
field. 
We permanate a magnetic. 

678
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Rest in peace. 
To seven feet. 

679
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,880
These two are talking about 
magnetic fields while a 

680
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,440
disembodied voice says to rest 
in peace. 

681
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,880
I mean what the what? 
Magnetic fields so you're I want

682
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,120
you to go so you're we 
understand we're not going to be

683
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,720
here too long spirit so look why
did. 

684
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,840
You come. 
We we came to talk. 

685
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,400
To you, why did you come? 
Yeah, we came to talk to you. 

686
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,640
But listen, I got it's funny you
I got bit by a tick. 

687
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,600
I had a tick a couple weeks ago 
and I'm I didn't know this. 

688
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,760
I'm extremely allergic to tick 
bites. 

689
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,320
I had no idea. 
So I had to go. 

690
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,240
I had to go to the doctor 
because I just wasn't feeling 

691
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,560
right and I pulled a tick out 
myself. 

692
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,400
It wasn't in there long. 
It didn't have to be in there 

693
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,560
long. 
I just had an allergic reaction 

694
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,840
to it. 
I still have the wound on the 

695
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,800
phone and it's healing horribly.
And that's because I'm allergic 

696
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,280
to it. 
And anyway, I don't and I and I 

697
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,960
get my blood pressure taken now.
I smoke cigarettes, I drink 

698
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,920
energy drinks. 
I do eat, but I eat a. 

699
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,960
Lot. 
Yeah, you're a picture of 

700
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,800
health. 
OK, I'm not exactly. 

701
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,240
I am not a picture of health. 
I am like horribly unhealthy. 

702
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,920
I go get my blood pressure done.
Fucking get it. 

703
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,960
The reading comes back. 
They took it twice. 

704
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,360
They could not believe how good 
my blood pressure was for 

705
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,400
someone my size and my history 
and be having an allergic 

706
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,760
reaction to this tick in the way
I was. 

707
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,600
They couldn't believe it. 
And I was like, I understand. 

708
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,040
I choked around. 
I was like, yeah, I got a strong

709
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,320
magnetic field because it you 
know, it permeates from my heart

710
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,680
and it's it's wild. 
Like it makes no sense. 

711
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,080
So there are things that make no
sense. 

712
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,200
You know, when it I should have 
horrible blood pressure, my 

713
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,920
blood pressure should beat me 
through the roof. 

714
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,120
And it's not, it's wild. 
But anyway, that's what I 

715
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,680
believe. 
And and so when I'm with people,

716
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:02,640
this gets nulled down a little 
bit because of other magnetic 

717
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,280
fields in the room. 
Yeah. 

718
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,920
I think the one of the important
points, Gary, is that since he's

719
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,960
alone a lot doing this and 
they're communicating a lot when

720
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,840
he's alone to bring me in 
without the boxes to validate 

721
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,760
that. 
That's to me like the best 

722
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,640
because dude, he really has 
experienced this. 

723
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,280
Do you know what I mean? 
Like yes, I don't know how to 

724
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,920
explain it. 
No, that's the best way to 

725
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,760
explain it. 
The fact that we didn't have 

726
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,120
anything up and running. 
I didn't she listen? 

727
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,320
She knows nothing. 
She knew nothing about this 

728
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,520
place. 
He literally knew nothing. 

729
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920
The fact that she brought up 
Edward brought up the fact that 

730
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,120
he was, you know, Scottish. 
The fact that she brought up the

731
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,120
serpent. 
I mean, my followers that have 

732
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,240
been watching me for years now, 
when they go and they actually 

733
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:58,360
watch this, they're going to be 
like, holy shit. 

734
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,760
How does she pick up on the 
serpent's? 

735
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Who was that? 
It not only validates everything

736
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,800
that I've been dealing with, but
you know your abilities as well 

737
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,840
as, and again, I'm gonna say, 
and I said this to you before, I

738
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,000
think that most people that 
claim to be medium psychics and 

739
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,040
have gifts are full of shit. 
I don't think they're the real 

740
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,800
deal. 
You, however, have proven 

741
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,760
yourself a lot and I appreciate 
you coming and doing this for us

742
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,880
and for this podcast. 
Believe me, not like you had to 

743
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,360
prove anything to the two of us.
We're nobodies, but it's like, 

744
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,040
but it really was. 
It was really just doing this. 

745
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,800
I was blown. 
I've been blown away by it. 

746
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,400
It certainly makes me question a
great many things. 

747
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,920
And I again, I'm very glad I'm 
not in that room. 

748
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,200
I don't know if I could be in 
that room. 

749
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,480
But you won't be soon. 
I will. 

750
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,880
I will come down there and do 
it. 

751
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Yeah, man, I don't listen again.
Thank you, Kathy. 

752
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,280
I appreciate it. 
I don't. 

753
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,000
I don't think we want to keep 
you for too much, Keep you too 

754
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,640
much longer. 
Here. 

755
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,040
I think we've got everything. 
Why are you here? 

756
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640
Who? 
He keeps asking why you're here.

757
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,000
I know he wants to know why I'm 
here. 

758
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,600
I don't know why you scare. 
Did she scare you, Edward? 

759
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,440
Edward. 
Eased. 

760
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,280
Spirits confused the matter. 
A strong, powerful woman scares 

761
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,040
you, Edward. 
Run now. 

762
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,080
Oh yeah, nice. 
Run. 

763
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,920
Now run. 
Run. 

764
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,640
Oh, really? 
OK, Wow. 

765
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,280
I guess you figured out who I 
was. 

766
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,240
Do they know I'm a witch? 
You know what's funny? 

767
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:44,760
I was going to ask you about 
that because the first thing I 

768
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,800
heard when I fired up Vox was 
why is there a witch here? 

769
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:50,520
Oh wow. 
Yeah, well. 

770
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,000
I did you forget that I told you
to remember where it said witch 

771
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,600
back at the beginning. 
Well, go back and listen to it 

772
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,320
again if you did I. 
Want to? 

773
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,560
Not you, Edward. 
Listen, Gary, when I get up to 

774
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,360
turn on the spirit boxes, the 
first thing you're going to 

775
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,080
hear, and it's probably going to
be light because I don't know if

776
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,960
I had the speaker hooked up to 
it yet, but you'll probably hear

777
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,880
something about a witch. 
Oh, shit. 

778
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Usually when they bring up 
candles, that means, well, it's 

779
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,840
like I'll fly as we all watch 
the back. 

780
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,680
I can't tell you how many times 
I've knocked Campbells off this.

781
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,280
Oh wow. 
I've got videos on YouTube where

782
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,760
like it's like boom boom boom 
boom. 

783
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,600
Are you going to move a candle 
for us? 

784
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Why are you here? 
Well, I'm here to talk to Johnny

785
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,400
and I think it's a perfect 
timing because the last couple 

786
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,560
of days we had a full moon and 
you know, there's a lot of power

787
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,720
with the full moon, so I figured
it was perfect time to talk with

788
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:54,280
you. 
Never minds me. 

789
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,720
I've got a case of water on the 
roof. 

790
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,280
I've got a. 
Case of water. 

791
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,480
Oh, good. 
Yeah, that's case. 

792
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,280
I got a whole case of water up 
on the. 

793
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Moon water, yeah. 
I asked AI what's up with moon 

794
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,280
water. 
Apparently it's made by placing 

795
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,640
water outside under the 
moonlight during a specific 

796
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,920
lunar phase, and it can be used 
in a variety of spiritual 

797
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,800
practices including cleansing, 
healing, empowering spells and 

798
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,680
rituals, enhancing intuition, 
and even psychic abilities. 

799
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,680
It is also said to make your 
skin glow, which I assume means 

800
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,400
like how a pregnant lady. 
He's glowing, not literally like

801
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,000
you're glowing. 
I told him what? 

802
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:35,120
What'd you tell him? 
Who'd you tell Whispering? 

803
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Like what is happening? 
Well, I guess I'm telling him 

804
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,240
how to fix the room. 
Run. 

805
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,160
Now. 
They keep wanting me to leave, 

806
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,960
yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

807
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Well, she's going to leave when 
she's ready. 

808
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,000
They know you're wrapping it up,
so they're like, get her out of 

809
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:56,480
here. 
Did you hear a name Sal down 

810
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,680
here? 
So you know, it was, it's funny 

811
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:09,640
because there, there is a Sal, 
there's a Dominic, a Sal and a 

812
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,720
Brian. 
And they're all related and they

813
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,440
all have to do with this place. 
But yeah, I'm not. 

814
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,280
Sure. 
I'm sure after your time Edward,

815
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,960
it was a tenant that. 
Was come inside. 

816
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,920
Yeah, it was. 
This place has seen a lot of 

817
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,360
tenants, but it was one of the 
tenants. 

818
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,440
That, Sal, is so clear to me. 
Yeah, yeah. 

819
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,320
Did you know Sal? 
No. 

820
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,200
Yeah, and, and what's crazy, the
only reason why I know that 

821
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,360
these people ever even existed, 
other than the spirits, is that 

822
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,960
some of their names are still on
the doors by the by the 

823
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:46,320
doorbells, and sometimes they 
still get mail. 

824
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,240
Oh. 
Wow. 

825
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,880
You know, like, did they still 
get mail? 

826
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,120
Like, yeah, like all all of a 
sudden a piece of mail will come

827
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,520
in and it'll just be left on the
box and I'm like. 

828
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:56,360
Are you scared? 
Who's this? 

829
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,800
No, I'm not. 
Actually. 

830
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,040
I'm not scared of you. 
I. 

831
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,280
Am I am scared? 
Yes, the answer is yes. 

832
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:08,160
I am absolutely scared 100%. 
Sidekick. 

833
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,080
Yes, yeah. 
Yay. 

834
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,640
You know who I am. 
Thank you. 

835
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,600
And it's, well, that's one 
thing. 

836
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,320
And, and you probably agree, the
last thing you want to do is 

837
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,520
have fear while you do this. 
Oh, I don't have fear you can't 

838
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,000
have because I'm always 
projected. 

839
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Yeah. 
Fear. 

840
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,080
Fear will feed. 
So what else do you know about 

841
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,680
me? 
Tell me other things I've done 

842
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640
in my life if you know I'm a 
psychic. 

843
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,000
You can speak when you. 
Were talking about that cemetery

844
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,760
in Connecticut. 
I don't know it, but is there 

845
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,160
like a what do you call that 
tree? 

846
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,680
A A A weeping Willow. 
Where is the weeping Willow that

847
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,800
you've been around 'cause I keep
seeing this weeping Willow. 

848
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,320
Do you know a weeping Willow? 
Tree. 

849
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,480
Yep, Yep, I know. 
Why am I here? 

850
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:02,040
Where is that tree to you? 
The only weeping Willow tree 

851
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:08,840
that has any significance to me 
is in a park that's in the in 

852
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,680
the neighborhood. 
Why do you go to that? 

853
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,320
Park. 
The only time I go to that park 

854
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,560
for any of this is there's an 
old pre Revolutionary War 

855
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,680
cottage on the property and I've
also tried to get into the Girl 

856
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,120
Scout house too but because the 
Girl Scout house. 

857
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,440
Explain yourself. 
Don't just say you're trying to 

858
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,960
get into the Girl Scout house on
camera like you have to. 

859
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,880
Explain why. 
The Girl Scout house on the park

860
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,160
property is haunted as well. 
Thank you. 

861
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,720
Yeah. 
Let's be clear. 

862
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,600
Yeah. 
So. 

863
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,360
Where's the Girl Scout house? 
It's a park called Lions Park. 

864
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,360
Oh wow, yeah. 
And what's funny is that that 

865
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,960
it's it's and now it's really 
funny that you said over that 

866
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,160
cemetery in Connecticut first, 
because the people that owned 

867
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,320
that property that that park is 
on, their family is buried at 

868
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,200
that cemetery. 
Oh my God, that's incredible. 

869
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,440
Oh my God. 
They're buried at that cemetery.

870
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,960
That is really incredible that I
went from. 

871
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,920
Blood for the Nexus? 
Oh. 

872
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,000
Oh, did you hear that, 10? 
My God, I heard Nexus. 

873
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,240
Yeah, they just said blood for 
the Nexus. 

874
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:21,040
Wow, that's but I find that 
really interesting that I got 

875
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,360
all that connection from the 
weeping Willow tree. 

876
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,680
Yep wow, that's incredible. 
It's. 

877
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,120
Warm. 
It's warm. 

878
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,760
That's amazing. 
Yeah, but see, that's the spirit

879
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,240
chatter I'm talking about, that 
you'll get here randomly. 

880
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,640
They'll talk about the Nexus and
blood for the Nexus and things 

881
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,160
like that. 
Almost like I don't know if 

882
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,560
they're asking for it and it's 
leaving. 

883
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,600
I, I don't blame your spirit and
it's something asking for it or 

884
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,280
if it's like they're just 
saying, hey, this is what 

885
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,520
happens. 
Very, very interesting. 

886
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,320
What's also really interesting 
is that was not Edward that sent

887
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,040
blood for the Nexus. 
That was a. 

888
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,520
John is an asshole. 
You know what, Edward? 

889
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:08,040
See what I'm saying? 
You see what I'm saying? 

890
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,160
This is why? 
Because I said that wasn't you 

891
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,640
that said that. 
This is what I deal with with 

892
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,840
him, and that's the thing. 
He comes off funny, he comes off

893
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,960
cunning, he comes off all these 
things, but in reality he was a 

894
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,400
really bad guy. 
So why did you just say that? 

895
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,400
Why did you call John that name?
You know why he did it. 

896
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,480
Why don't you tell us? 
No explanation. 

897
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,520
Do you know? 
Well, we. 

898
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,920
That's why we're asking. 
Yeah, well, John. 

899
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,240
Disgusting. 
Well, he is disgusting. 

900
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,880
That is very true, Spirit. 
What's your name? 

901
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:53,720
Spirit? 
Grief spirits that just said 

902
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:55,000
disgusting. 
What is your name? 

903
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:03,080
He has like a British accent. 
Why is he here? 

904
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,560
Why is? 
Me, yeah. 

905
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,800
Maybe. 
Gary's on the. 

906
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,800
Team. 
Because what's interesting? 

907
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:16,360
Yeah, wow, wow, wow. 
Yes, they know about you, Gary. 

908
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,520
Great. 
Which is my. 

909
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,960
Jacket So you want me to get my 
jacket on? 

910
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,400
You're telling me to leave? 
Yet you've been before. 

911
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,240
Have we been where before? 
Here. 

912
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:27,920
This is her first time here. 
Edward, I'm going to plan with 

913
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,120
Johnny on how to kill you. 
That's going to be our one of 

914
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,440
our next things is we're going 
to kill Edward. 

915
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,320
We're going to dissipate the 
Spirit. 

916
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,080
We're going to dissipate that 
spirit. 

917
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,960
We're going to test that theory.
There's, there's theories that 

918
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:51,560
you can dismantle a spirit using
magnets and we're going to test 

919
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,920
that out if it's possible. 
Now, I personally don't think 

920
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,640
you can. 
I think you can weaken, you can 

921
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:03,560
remove a spirit from theoretical
spirit particles if they exist, 

922
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,320
it'll end up reforming again. 
It'll end up coming right back, 

923
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,720
but for the time being you can 
separate it. 

924
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,760
I don't know if we can fully 
kill it. 

925
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:17,480
It's like a second death type 
thing, but we're gonna see what 

926
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,160
it does. 
We're gonna see if it's 

927
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,600
possible. 
My my theory on it is that it's 

928
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,960
just gonna dissipate the spirit 
for a bit. 

929
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,640
I think it's gonna end up coming
right back. 

930
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,080
Yeah. 
You know, cuz it's just, it's an

931
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,720
imprint. 
So that, yeah, leave me alone. 

932
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,960
Why? 
Why are you still there? 

933
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:37,720
Why are you guys still in that 
room? 

934
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,480
I don't know. 
Stroke, Stroke. 

935
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Stroke I just I just like 
certain things that are like 

936
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,440
oddities but also come up as 
evidential. 

937
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,880
Like for the fact that he said 
that he watches him in that 

938
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,960
other room and that he was 
working with hammer and nails. 

939
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,320
Like that to me is what should 
I. 

940
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,320
Do. 
That he actually, you know, 

941
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,560
spirit actually was like 
watching him, you know, and I, I

942
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:15,080
find that that's why I find this
all very interesting because he 

943
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,040
actually brought that through 
that he was actually watching 

944
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,160
him. 
So that to me in itself has a 

945
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,400
really different creep level. 
You know, it's one thing to 

946
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,640
think that spirits around, but 
the fact that he says that he 

947
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,200
was watching and working, that's
like really creepy. 

948
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,400
Yeah, yeah. 
Oh yeah, definitely. 

949
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,600
That's creepy. 
And just to be clear, it's all 

950
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,720
creepy. 
It is all creepy. 

951
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,000
I know, I know, I know, I know. 
But that's. 

952
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Next level creepy. 
There's different. 

953
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,520
Levels of creepy. 
There's different levels of 

954
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,560
creepiness, and once you've done
this for so long, it just 

955
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,320
doesn't seem like it anymore. 
Like you'll hear things 

956
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,400
different. 
Levels of it. 

957
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Over here you just get so used 
to it. 

958
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,000
Well, I was. 
Holding that noose like, you 

959
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,440
know, you gave me like, yeah. 
I gave me N well, that's why I 

960
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,840
said to you, hey, if you got to 
throw this thing away, throw it,

961
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,600
you know a second. 
I, I have there's only a couple 

962
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,920
of times in my life that I came 
across something where literally

963
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,520
I felt it was a very I I won't 
talk about it, but it was a very

964
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,800
evil situation and I literally 
felt the energy from the ground 

965
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:32,240
travel on my legs to my stomach 
and it was like boom. 

966
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:36,160
I was like, this is no good. 
Like I am not going further with

967
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,440
that it. 
Reminds me of that, that that 

968
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:45,120
story about that doll that they 
found in the the Adirondacks. 

969
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,200
I think it was supposedly they 
found like a voodoo doll in a 

970
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,080
cave. 
And they. 

971
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,840
Yeah. 
And they and they, they took it 

972
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,440
and it was in like a museum when
a bunch of other haunted 

973
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,760
objects, but it kept getting 
like people sick and they ended 

974
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,160
up having to take it back to the
where they found it and they 

975
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,080
dismantled it and took it apart.
It was like a whole. 

976
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,000
There was a whole special. 
Yeah, I don't know about that. 

977
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,960
And I'm like, oh, I would have 
took the, take the doll. 

978
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,280
I would have take it. 
I would have taken it. 

979
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,840
But you know. 
I'm pretty sure that's a Brady 

980
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,480
Bunch episode where they go to 
Hawaii. 

981
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,360
In living life, you've probably 
met some people that you 

982
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,280
thought, oh, I'm glad I am never
going to see you. 

983
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,200
And it's that feeling that you 
say like, OK, you're a bad dude.

984
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,760
You know, it's like you. 
See. 

985
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,560
Oh, I could tell somebody. 
Oh yeah. 

986
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,480
In CBS and there could be a bad 
dude in front of you or behind 

987
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,200
you and you're like, Oh my God, 
I can't wait to get away from 

988
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,440
this person. 
Like, and they could be the best

989
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,160
person in the world, but then 
what they kind of elude from 

990
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:49,040
their body is this energy that's
like, wow, I yeah, I can. 

991
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,600
Usually, well, most of the time,
if someone's eluding that 

992
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:57,240
energy, they're oh wow. 
Oh. 

993
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,240
Shit, what the hell is that 
something? 

994
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,480
Just through the pamphlet. 
I have the the pamphlets. 

995
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,880
Look at that. 
Yeah, yeah, Looks. 

996
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,400
I well, there was a. 
Couple of them up there. 

997
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,160
That got caught. 
I saw it on the recording I. 

998
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Do have it on the recording 
through the pamphlet. 

999
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Did you see that? 
I sure did. 

1000
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,360
Yeah. 
And I'll, I'll, I'll be 

1001
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,400
rewinding that. 
And seeing what that was, yeah, 

1002
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,120
wow, that is. 
Crazy how? 

1003
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,120
How wild is that that? 
My nephew has a planchet those 

1004
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,680
things for. 
Ouija boards that you move 

1005
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,680
around over the letters and 
words decoratively hanging up in

1006
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,560
the background. 
And it just fell to the ground 

1007
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,760
for no reason. 
No one was moving, no one was 

1008
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,520
shaking. 
It just fell. 

1009
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,200
But we're talking about someone 
being a bad. 

1010
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,760
Dude, dude, and then and who's 
the bad? 

1011
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,400
Dude, the guy I was. 
Talking about he just said 

1012
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,120
grandmother. 
Yeah, I just said grandmother 

1013
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,520
too. 
Gary, you broke too. 

1014
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,480
Gary, you what he called you. 
Broke, he said. 

1015
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,680
Gary, you're broke. 
Too. 

1016
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,040
Cool. 
Oh wow, he knows. 

1017
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,840
You're the uncle. 
Johnny, Johnny. 

1018
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,320
Who did we tell him I was? 
That's right, Oregon. 

1019
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,000
That's right, the. 
Test start theory. 

1020
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,840
I said you were my We told the 
little version of him that that 

1021
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,880
he was my brother. 
We did not tell him. 

1022
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,080
Take it up in here. 
A little bit crazy, right? 

1023
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,360
We did not tell. 
We did not. 

1024
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Tell him I was your uncle. 
We told him I was your brother. 

1025
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,360
Yeah, but only but we. 
Told the little version. 

1026
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,280
The little one, the younger. 
Version. 

1027
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,880
Yeah, and he but. 
He knew. 

1028
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:34,320
He. 
He. 

1029
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,200
Straight up was like Nope, this 
that wild. 

1030
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,080
Bro. 
Wild Wow. 

1031
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,880
Oh man. 
Edward, he's such a piece of 

1032
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,080
garbage too. 
It's not even fun. 

1033
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,840
Well, that's amazing. 
Yeah, that is wild. 

1034
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,520
So wild. 
Well, they haven't said anything

1035
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,040
about. 
Me. 

1036
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,120
Other than me being psychic, 
isn't that what do you mean? 

1037
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,400
Other than you being psychic, 
it's. 

1038
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,360
Sort of new you're. 
That's A to me, that's a huge 

1039
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,960
thing. 
It's like they know you're a 

1040
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,320
psychic. 
That's not to me, that's not 

1041
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,520
random. 
You don't just start in the 

1042
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,360
beginning though, but. 
Even more of a reason though, 

1043
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,880
right? 
Like. 

1044
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,680
It's it's like, it's, it's not 
like they said, oh, you know, 

1045
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,000
you're a Baker. 
They'd like calls you what you 

1046
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,760
were. 
That's true, yeah. 

1047
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,720
I was curious to see how he's 
come back. 

1048
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,640
Oh wow, you want me to come 
back? 

1049
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,920
Why do you like me now? 
OK, Sacrifice. 

1050
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,160
Oh yo. 
Yo, Edward, that. 

1051
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,840
Is not cool, Edward, you are. 
Not going to sacrifice. 

1052
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,840
Her all right, your time of 
sacrificing is over with my 

1053
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,200
friend. 
Wow, that is done. 

1054
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,960
With you're done with all. 
That now you get to sit here. 

1055
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,600
Why make money on TikTok and it 
pisses you off? 

1056
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,880
He thinks he's so powerful. 
He does. 

1057
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,880
He does amazing. 
He's so very. 

1058
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,680
Pompous. 
Well, I think he comes through 

1059
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,800
the strongest because of his 
sacrifices. 

1060
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,160
I Oh yeah, because of Satan. 
Sure. 

1061
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:19,880
I think that's what I think the 
deal is, you know, that's why he

1062
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,160
comes and there are there are 
some other spirits that will 

1063
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,360
like Barbara will come through 
every now what do I do spirits. 

1064
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,360
You can do whatever you want. 
As long as it's not bad. 

1065
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,880
Wow, that's wild. 
I I honestly didn't think 

1066
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,520
something was going to get 
thrown in here today. 

1067
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,120
So that was pretty cool that 
that happened. 

1068
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,280
Wow, you know we also. 
Have a very different. 

1069
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,000
Different definition. 
Of what cool is, yeah, I guess. 

1070
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,320
We do, Gary. 
You broke too. 

1071
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,560
Yeah, he keeps, he thinks. 
Yo, Edward. 

1072
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,240
Why do you think Gary's broke? 
Look, I'm not really working 

1073
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,240
right now. 
It's not like. 

1074
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,920
Technically, I guess I'm not, 
you know, rolling. 

1075
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,760
In the cash, but. 
Yeah, we don't have your type. 

1076
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,080
We don't have your type of. 
Money 19. 19 He could be 

1077
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,000
talking. 
About you're talking too one of 

1078
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,320
the hospital spirits. 
Oh wow. 

1079
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,000
Real. 
Just sometimes we get that too. 

1080
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,880
I'll get spirits that'll come 
through and be like, oh, I was 

1081
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,840
sick, I had a fever, things like
that. 

1082
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,600
And they're just, you know, so 
this was fun. 

1083
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:28,280
The thing with the thing the. 
Thing I have to say, when that 

1084
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,880
thing fell, we were we were not 
talking. 

1085
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,200
I, I find this is actually a 
good experiment, but we were 

1086
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,240
talking about energy and I was 
telling you about something that

1087
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,320
had happened to me and we were 
saying, you know, there's a bad 

1088
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,960
dude on the line. 
And it seemed, yes. 

1089
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,800
Had we ignored that? 
We were just having our own 

1090
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,920
conversation and they wanted us 
to remember, hey, we're here and

1091
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,000
that's the way it always goes. 
That's amazing. 

1092
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:56,640
And it's. 
Wild. 

1093
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,600
And it's funny. 
It's funny. 

1094
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,920
You bring that up. 
Because on TikTok, what I'm 

1095
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:04,000
known for more than anything is 
ignoring spirits. 

1096
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,000
I am very well known in the 
paranormal community. 

1097
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,560
Or I'll completely stop talking 
to the spirits and just talk to 

1098
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,840
my community. 
And then things will start 

1099
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,800
happening and popping off and 
they're here. 

1100
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,240
It's like, Oh yeah, they're 
here. 

1101
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,920
You know, like they're here, but
I'm not paying attention to 

1102
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:19,800
them. 
You know, I'm going to pay 

1103
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,320
attention to my community right 
now. 

1104
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,240
Well, the timing of it was 
amazing. 

1105
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,480
Because we were just having 
this, you know, on the line in 

1106
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,440
CBS, and then that thing went 
off. 

1107
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,720
Yeah. 
Wow. 

1108
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,120
It's crazy. 
Very. 

1109
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,560
Crazy Oh. 
My God. 

1110
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,800
Very crazy. 
Nexus Nexus Nexus Nexus We're. 

1111
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaking. 
About the Nexus, is that wild? 

1112
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,880
She repeated 3 * 3. 
What do I do? 

1113
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,240
Did you hear that? 
Gary I Oh, I heard it. 

1114
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,480
I've been hearing it. 
I I. 

1115
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,120
Can't unhear it, Kathy. 
I cannot unhear it. 

1116
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,120
After that, we didn't get much 
more with Kathy. 

1117
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,280
Said her goodbyes and my nephew 
walked her out. 

1118
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,400
Oh shit he's coming back. 
Never mind now that she's not 

1119
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,840
here. 
Tell me how you really felt 

1120
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,800
about the reading. 
So I personally feel she was at.

1121
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,920
As at the office, she was 
picking up all the spirits at 

1122
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,960
the office. 
I don't think that any of the 

1123
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,880
spirits that she was picking up 
on had anything to do with me. 

1124
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,800
For the most part, anyway. 
All right, mostly the names she 

1125
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,120
was dropping. 
It was all it all had to do with

1126
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,120
the 1900s factory. 
And then when she was down here,

1127
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,080
I mean, she I think, come on, of
all the. 

1128
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,480
Countries you're going to pick. 
You're going to pick Scotland 

1129
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,640
like she nailed Edward right 
dude, when she. 

1130
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,640
Yeah, man, when she did my 
reading, she was saying a lot of

1131
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,040
stuff that was, you know, I, I, 
I didn't get or I, I didn't 

1132
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,960
understand. 
But when she was specific, it 

1133
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:56,480
was oddly specific and her 
almost on point specific, right?

1134
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,120
Yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

1135
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,080
Oh yeah, definitely. 
Let's talk about what? 

1136
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,000
Our whole point here and what 
we're trying. 

1137
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,680
To do when you. 
When you have someone like that 

1138
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,680
from the outside does where 
where does that? 

1139
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,320
What do we think that means? 
What do we think it means that 

1140
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,920
she's. 
So for example, what does it 

1141
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,400
mean to you? 
Yeah. 

1142
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,840
So what it means to me is 
regardless. 

1143
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,480
Like, you know, she's picking up
on all these things. 

1144
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,280
She could be picking up on the 
memories. 

1145
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,880
Like it doesn't disprove it. 
It doesn't prove it of the 

1146
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,960
memory theory anyway. 
It just proves that she's 

1147
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,800
picking up on something that 
I've already, you know, 

1148
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,720
documented from an outside 
source. 

1149
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,680
Like she said, 'cause she even 
said that in the when when she 

1150
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,080
was here. 
It doesn't prove or disprove the

1151
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,120
memory theory, It just 
solidifies that there's 

1152
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,960
something there based on the 
definitions. 

1153
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,320
Of what we've been playing with 
apparition, hauntings, 

1154
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,600
poltergeist, that we are 
actually dealing with 

1155
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,200
apparitions because if we are 
dealing with hauntings, they 

1156
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,800
wouldn't interact. 
They are imprints that wouldn't 

1157
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:07,800
interact. 
So her being there then I would 

1158
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,680
say makes them apparitions. 
It puts us in that lane. 

1159
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,240
And then the idea that you're 
some sort of AI where you are 

1160
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,920
taking hauntings and bringing 
them to life like we had talked 

1161
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,600
about our guest is not the case.
You're actually talking to 

1162
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,960
apparitions, right? 
If using just her following you,

1163
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,080
that means. 
That's what that would tell me. 

1164
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,240
Like that, that haunting theory 
and that you're sort of bringing

1165
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,160
this to life is not the case. 
You're actually communicating 

1166
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,280
with apparitions that are there.
She's now felt them. 

1167
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,240
They try to reach out to her. 
They're giving her direct 

1168
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,840
messages. 
That's different, no then that 

1169
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,000
thing. 
Fell off the wall. 

1170
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,520
I mean the whole. 
Thing and then like I once that 

1171
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,640
happened. 
I will say this, once that 

1172
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,600
happened, her entire energy 
changed. 

1173
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,880
You know, she went from like, 
oh, yeah, you know, everywhere 

1174
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,080
is haunted. 
This is what I do to. 

1175
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,560
Oh, wow, this is, this is one of
those types of places. 

1176
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,840
You know what I mean? 
Which is great. 

1177
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,080
We were talking about it 
outside. 

1178
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,600
It was like, yeah. 
Did did anything change for you 

1179
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,680
and your thoughts based on 
sitting with someone like Kathy?

1180
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,560
No, no. 
Well, you've always been 

1181
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,400
skeptical of mediums and. 
Psychics. 

1182
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,880
So I've so I've always been 
skeptic. 

1183
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,840
I do know they exist, but I do 
know that majority of them are 

1184
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,320
full of shit. 
Kathy, however, is not. 

1185
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,760
There is something going on 
there. 

1186
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,520
She has some sort of gift. 
Well, it seems to me like dude. 

1187
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,520
You may have a gift. 
Maybe I. 

1188
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,920
Mean what do you? 
What do you I mean? 

1189
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,960
If. 
An app could talk to the dead. 

1190
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,600
Everyone would do it. 
So it's like people are trying 

1191
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,560
it they're not doing it. 
So there's you know one thing 

1192
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,880
she said though, too about you 
right. 

1193
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,720
Like you are this magnet. 
Well, I I that I agree with 

1194
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,920
because. 
I've always theoretically said 

1195
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,120
that my magnetic field affects 
the spirits. 

1196
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,360
That's what gets them to talk. 
That's what gets. 

1197
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,400
That's my theory. 
That's what I say on TikTok all 

1198
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,200
the time. 
So I mean with that said it. 

1199
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,840
Could be possible that there's 
no spirits at the cemetery 

1200
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,120
except when you're at the 
cemetery, they're there for you.

1201
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,320
And then do you see what I mean?
Like you're you're a medium in 

1202
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:32,280
it in and of itself maybe. 
Could you imagine? 

1203
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,640
Look at you. 
You're just the. 

1204
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,560
Ghost Magnet. 
You're like a straight up 

1205
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:40,160
supernatural silo lightning rod 
for ghosts. 

1206
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,920
Which is? 
It is. 

1207
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:47,520
It is. 
Wonderfully crazy, bizarre world

1208
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,800
we live in, dude. 
I don't know man, but it's that.

1209
01:07:50,800 --> 01:08:01,240
Was these past few hours with 
Kathy were crazy and I don't. 

1210
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,080
Know what to make of all this? 
I know this. 

1211
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,720
I don't. 
I don't like the fact that the 

1212
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,960
ghosts are now knowing my name, 
not loving that, not loving it, 

1213
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,240
but it makes sense. 
They they. 

1214
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:17,040
Learn, they learn and as long as
you stimulate that they will 

1215
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,880
remember. 
And this is not your first time 

1216
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,319
here. 
Via the. 

1217
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,319
You know, via the call. 
Dude, it's technically what, 

1218
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:31,120
your 4th time, right? 
Well, it's a few times. 

1219
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,680
Yeah. 
Yeah, it's been a few times. 

1220
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:37,439
Yeah, so all right. 
Oh wow. 

1221
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,479
All right, dude, have a great 
night. 

1222
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,880
Enjoy the rest of the weekend 
and you will talk to Gary. 

1223
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:42,640
Love you. 
Good. 

1224
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,120
Love to the family. 
Love you too, bro. 

1225
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,560
I'll talk to you soon. 
All right. 

1226
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:51,240
See you, man. 
Now it's really the end. 

1227
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,359
Thanks for. 
Listening to Splintered Spirits 

1228
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,520
with me, Gary and my nephew 
Johnny. 

1229
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,439
You can watch Johnny live on 
TikTok at Santa Paranormal. 

1230
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,479
We want to once again thank 
Kathy Nadal for joining us. 

1231
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,800
We may not be closer to knowing 
what ghosts are, but if we are 

1232
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,439
to accept Kathy's professional 
analysis, we might be closer to 

1233
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,319
understanding what Johnny is in 
that he may be a medium himself,

1234
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,319
a true conduit into whatever 
space these spirits are residing

1235
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:19,920
in. 
You can find Kathy on Instagram 

1236
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,120
at Cat Witch NYC and her books 
can be found on Amazon. 

1237
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:25,279
See you next time.
