What's up my man? Hey, what's going on?
We are live. Oh yeah, yes, we are.
Welcome, welcome everyone. Dude I am beat because I had a
physical yesterday and they gave me that.
Today. No, I would have enjoyed that.
That would have been a wonderful.
I mean that would have, I mean that would have been a nice
little treat that insurance gets to pay for.
Normally you got to pay for that kind of action on your own.
On your own, I know, I know. You know they gave me a shingles
vaccine. Oh dude, Yup, at 50 and it's
they said look, you might feel flu like symptoms and it's
kicking my ass today. It's like it's supposed to last
a day, but it's like. It's better.
It's better than shingles. Oh my God, I never had shingles.
I never want them. And look, if there's any anti
vaxxers on the on the chat, you can fuck right off.
I'm getting every vaccine that's known to man.
I'm going to take it. I don't give a shit.
I'm taking it. It's like I got an pneumonia
one. I got a thing I.
Agree, after it's been tested on the populace enough, you know
what I mean. I'm fine.
I'm I'm more than well. And then once it's good, then
I'm like, all right. I'm more than willing give it
up, give it to me. Yeah.
I'll take it. I'll take that shit, yeah.
So I've been listen, I've been baking in this humidity and
heat. I'm finally supposed to be
getting a break tomorrow in the humidity and heat.
Tonight is the last. Tonight's supposed to be brutal
too. I mean, by the time I go live
it'll just be leaving the 90s, but it's going to feel like 95.
And that's it. What?
What time of night is that? That's at that.
I'll be live between 9:30 and 10:00 tonight.
And it's 90° at 9, like that hour.
Oh. Dude, so and what's what's crazy
and listen. These people better.
These people better be worth it. I'm, they're so worth it.
I, I am not a big conspiracy theorist right at all, nor do I
get into, like, you know, arguments about climate change
and whatnot. But what I can tell you is this.
20 years ago, the 90° weather was at noon.
You knew it was coming. We planned our work around it
right when we were working outside.
Now the sun goes down and it's still hot as shit.
Yeah, and it's insane and it's like whoa.
And I mean, I don't know if you how long have you been in Cali
now? Oh man, I've been here for over
20 / 20 years like so so. Have you ever?
Have you noticed the difference in shift in the weather and all?
Yeah, yes, it's it's really hot here through September, like
August, September now the hottest, the hottest months.
And it never used to be like. That it used to be, you know,
June, you'd have like in LA anyway, you know, it was like
June, July, sort of standard summer, Yeah.
You know, but now, man, that heat goes, it rides through, you
know, it's, but it's, it's, it's not as bad.
It's hot, but it's not like humidity, dude.
Yeah, You know, humidity is a murderous.
I hate it. I'm I'm like sweating.
It just sucks. I hate everything.
About it. You combine that with like
getting bit by bugs, I think crawling on you in the middle of
the night. Oh dude, you're it is just like
it is. It's the worst, man.
Oh. It's the worst.
It's what's going on in the world of ghosts with you this
week. Well, I did a a triple buck out,
you know, as you know, we we did a episode of split the spirits
at. Buck out, Yeah, that'll be
coming up mid August. Guys, We've got a, we've got a
buck out episode, which is probably far overdue, but yes,
we'll probably have a few of those since that's such a big
part of John's world. Yeah, yeah, we're definitely
going to have a couple. Yeah.
So I did a triple buck out. I did the marshlands twice.
It's a funny way to say it. I did a triple buck out, dude,
triple buck out. It's like you did like an X
Games thing on your bike. I had another run in with a well
first let's talk paranormal. Caught some more awesome thermal
again. Those were, yeah.
Which is which? Oh, that's fun.
And you know, there's the usual buck out a lot about Mary buck
out. You know, spirits are very
chatty about that subject. And the on a non paranormal
note, I had a bunch of visitors again.
Now, I don't think they were they didn't know who I was until
they until one of them realized. But I had a bunch of people just
showed up out of nowhere. But this time they were nice.
They were respectful. How old were?
They they had, they had to be young.
They had. To be.
You know, between 16 and 18, again, you know, teenagers, but
they were energetic. They were just all over the
place, you know, checking out my stuff, taking pictures with me,
just. Did you have anybody with you
anyway or what? No, I was by myself.
Yeah, I was by myself. Interesting.
Yeah, that's nice.
But it was, it was, it was a good, it was a good experience.
It wasn't a like, oh shit, you know.
Have you ever gone to, have you ever gone to any of these
Paracon things? Have you ever been invited or
any of that stuff? Every now and then, whenever
there's talks of me actually going to 1, something ends up
happening. A bunch of guests they get will
be like, Oh no, we're not going to do it if John's doing it, you
know, I'm not the most liked person in the paranormal, so
it's pretty interesting. But no, I've never gone.
I was going to go Incognito one year to one of them, but then I
was like, yeah, I'd rather just go and do the real thing, you
know? I feel like that's something
we're going to do soon. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, we're totally going to go. Yeah, there's no.
Doubt. Well, we could do.
We could probably get in under the guise of Splinter spirits,
you know what I mean? And.
It all the time. It's like, all right, let me, I
got to figure that out. That's kind of yeah, let me see.
It's bad business. Obviously the big thing in the
news is this Dan Riviera guy in the paranormal space.
But it's really, it's kind of a shitty paranormal news story, as
we all know and have talked about.
It's just it's really exploitative, right?
I think it's the perfect, perfect word for it. 100% the.
Perfect word for it, so I don't know if I don't really want to
get into it. Stick.
To my stomach thinking about it. Yeah, I don't want to get into
it. I don't know enough about the
guy. I don't know enough about the
situation. I mean, I do know about that.
I've heard about this doll, but it's not.
And it's certainly interesting to talk about the doll, but I
don't want to talk about it in relation to this cat.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
I just feel bad for the dude's family, man.
You know, he was a father. He was, you know, he had a
family. And people are just coming out
of the woodwork with all this ridiculous assumptions.
Right. And it's like, yo, like, yeah,
if I'm this dude's son, that's the last thing I want to read is
an article, you know, the doll killed your daddy, You know what
I mean? Like.
Terrible. How's everybody in the
sandisphere tonight? What's going on out there today
tonight? What are you guys thinking
about? How's that?
Let's do a little Q&A. Sorry my energy is a little low
guys. My my head is killing me despite
the amount of massive amount of Tylenol I've taken.
But what is what's going on? What are you guys?
What's up if there's? Anything we can chat now?
Let's see it. Any questions?
Anything new happened in your life?
How you guys doing? Everybody good.
Sky boats on here. Sky boats.
Such a troll. That's funny.
So funny. Trouble.
These trolls, what are we going to do with them?
Just leave them. Sometimes you want to hug them,
sometimes you want to throw them out a window.
Yeah, depends on the troll. Depends.
On the troll Brian, you can take that hogie.
Listen. Every Did everybody watch Sleepy
Hollow or what? Did everybody watch Sam
Baltrus's episode? I was actually just about to get
into. That, I mean, let's go, let's
get into it. Would we have any Sleepy Hollow
questions? There's a lot of ghosts and shit
out there, guys. More than just a Headless
Horseman. And we got and we got Sleepy
Hollow coming up at the end of the month.
A lot going on between the. End of the month.
Sam is a well respected, very smart cat and he's been around.
He's had a lot of appearances. We were very lucky to get him on
and, and share stories with us. They're fun stories too.
It's been cursed a couple times. I mean, the guy's like, you
know, it's pretty wild. How many of you out there have
you ever been to Sleepy Hollow? Anyone.
Let's see, John, do you think anybody's ever been there?
Are they just, do they just live vicariously?
I think that there has to be at least one or two people that
have visited it at some point. You know, it's a, it's a very
famous cemetery. It's almost it's in all
intensive purposes it is a tourist attraction.
Right. Oh, for sure.
Mimi. You're right.
Mimi, you're right. Sam has been has made a ton of
appearances in a lot of different shows.
All right. M Hope.
Do you like M Hope or do you go with Mope?
What's the deal? But she says she loves sleepy.
Holla. I guess you've been there.
Yeah. I can't remember the last time I
was in Sleepy Hollow. I couldn't.
I mean, I couldn't tell you. Skyboat was married there.
That's probably why she's cursed.
Yeah. Yeah.
Brian's been there with you for sure.
Oh yeah. LA Premiere.
Yeah, I've been to sleeping hot a couple times during the stream
and you know, off the stream obviously.
Wait like way before I was streaming?
Sleeping hot was crazy. I you know, I'm surprised that I
never went there for like a Halloween as a kid.
Maybe when you were? Smaller.
Nobody ever took me. She didn't take me anywhere.
Like, like walk around. They just let us go, like go
around Avon Circle or some shit. We we didn't go anywhere.
Yeah, Yeah, but it's like we live right there.
Wouldn't that have been a fun thing to do?
Like every year on a Sleepy Hollow for Halloween, they got a
big ass cool parade with Headless Horseman stuff.
I mean, it'd probably be a while.
The town goes all out, like, I mean, it's like Headless
Horseman everything. Yeah.
Like literally head Leo, Headless Horseman, everything
it's like. And the best part is, the best
part is they have new, you know, new Sleepy Hollow T-shirts.
Every Halloween, the gas station right next door to the cemetery
gets all the T-shirts that they didn't sell the year prior.
Although, and for way cheaper, so.
Every when I. Go around Halloween, man, I grab
a bunch of T-shirts from the year prior, you know, so.
All right, hope we got you is let me know if you can hear that
air conditioner fan vent on here.
If I I turned it on, it's too loud, but it's getting it's
getting hot where I'm at. What else?
I'm not hearing it. Love sleepy Frank the tank.
He knows Sleepy Hollow, so he must be at Westchester or New
Yorker. He's at least been around.
What did you guys, would you guys, if you could have asked
him a question, what would you have asked him?
That's a good question. What did we miss?
What did we forget to ask him? I mean, look, I'm still learning
how to be an interviewer, so I could take the criticism.
Now, he said, he's currently working on a project in Florida.
If I remember, I thought it was well, I thought his next book
was like the New England castles or something.
Maybe he was he was talking about both I, I, I OK, you know,
he was going back and forth about both of.
Us. Isn't Florida scary enough
without the ghosts? We got any Florida people in the
house, Florida man. Oh.
There's definitely, there's got to be people from Florida.
There's no point. It's not.
Florida's got to be Florida's terrifying.
And that, you know, before you even get into the spirits.
It's so weird, Florida. Well, it's such, it's such a
different, like as you travel through the state, it just gets,
well, you know what, honestly, a lot of states are like that.
Like, let's be real, you go to you go through Pennsylvania,
right? Then you get into the middle of
Pennsylvania, which is different as to like the Pittsburgh side
of Pennsylvania, which also completely different.
New York's the same way, you know, it's, but New York is
weird. New York goes from like urban to
upstate back to urban again to upstate back to urban again.
And as you branch out towards Canada and Buffalo, you know, it
just gets weird with New York. All the states are like that.
Florida's like mad redneck, but every.
Until you get to Miami and it's. Cuban, you know, like it's it's
at Disney. You know, yeah, it's super cool.
Hale has a Hale brought up a good point.
I would have brought up the fact that he we've gotten the name
Sybil at the cottage, which he has gotten too.
Yes, tell me. Tell us about Sybil John.
Well, Hale's going to actually have to take over on that one
because one incredible thing about me is there are times when
I don't remember what the spirits are talking about.
And I have excellent mods and excellent people in this
community that are like, oh, no, John, we remember that night,
you know, this and this came through.
So then what happens Is it? And this is how like, like,
awesome. The documentation is the next
time I go to the cottage, I'll hear the name Sybil.
And I'll be like, oh, that's what Hale was talking about.
It, it, you know, these names come back through again.
So yeah, we, we, you know, we if Hale's saying we heard Sybil,
then we heard Sybil. What do we think of Hale?
What is the story of Sybil? What is it?
What's what is it about that? And, you know, and Hale, we we,
I purposefully didn't talk about the Headless Horseman too much
only because I felt like that's been done to that, done to
death, pun intended on that one. But it's sort of like we all
know that story. It's all these other ghosts and
all these other stories and things that John has come across
that have matched up with what Sam has come across that I
thought would be kind of interesting and a little more
unique in terms of, you know, sitting down with him.
Tell me the stuff we don't know, right?
Yeah. Yeah, and you know what he did?
He did seem very interesting going ghost busting with you,
which would be fun. You got to, you got to get in
touch with these guys, he said. Like, let him know you're going
to be out there. You could spend by for an hour,
you could do like an hour with him.
It'd be great. Yeah, no, yeah, definitely.
What's it called? I know he said he was busy, but
he said once he's done with all that, he would love to, you
know, come and do a session at Sleepy Hollow.
But when you go, listen, when you go to the Tarrytown estate,
you just don't stay in one night.
You know, that's not a place you stay one night, That's you want
to go there for at least 2-3 nights, you know, enjoy what the
place has to offer. You know, the outdoor bar, the
you know, the pool spas, the, you know all that stuff I mean.
I fancy. Well, my wife takes advantage of
all that stuff. Yeah, fancy of.
Course you know so. But Hale says she knows the
night he lost his head. I found a journal entry by
General Heath that talks about it.
Well look at you. Hail you this story.
Yeah, hails awesome with uh, with research and like, you
know, like so hails one of the people that in the live streams
when something comes through that's of like importance,
especially at places like buck out, she's just like, oh, that
lines up with history and you know it it it does so.
Why? What do you do hail do?
Are you like a school teacher or are you just like sitting in
front of I picture now now I'm picturing hail in front of like
6 computer monitors all at once and like her chair rolls back
dude, I'm pretty sure she runs a farm and then she runs a farm.
It's like, you know, she's. Like throwing like hail back hay
bales up into the third floor of the barn, you know?
Right, so that means she has a secret silo down there.
Eli Spy. Yep, she's.
Probably a spirits trapped in technology we don't know, right?
Exactly. Those farmhouse spies?
Yep, Middle America. They get activated and they're
ready to go. That's it.
It's all ruse you. Know what I mean?
It's so easy. It's just like they get the
phone call and it's like, you know.
Go down. You know, you lower down, right?
That's so. True man.
Yep, they said being like a silo or something.
I know it's very true. You know, it's going to talk
about me. It's like I don't have a lot for
today just because my head's not in it, but it's like I could
tell you what's next, which is going to be very fun.
So I did an interview with the professor Joseph Laycock out of
the University of Texas, who wrote a book called Satanism,
and he's a very much a theologian about the devil and
all of that kind of stuff. And he and I had a good talk
about one of my favourites, the devil himself.
And I said to him, it's because like all these people who are
like, oh, you're, you know, you're, you're, you're messing
with the forces of nature as when we're talking to spirits or
it's like, you know, demons and all this.
And it's really, it's going to be really interesting to sort of
get to the bottom of or, you know, like, where does this all
come from? Where is the fear?
What is the meaning of the word? Where does it stem from?
How's the legends and the lore and that like what we know of
the devil today and where does that come from?
You know what I mean? It's just sort of like how we
pinpoint it all and just sort of the fear and the fear is still
so intense. So like in the 90s with the
Satanic Panic and all that stuff, even to today, these
people are so nuts about it. They really are.
So it's like, I really am. I'm looking forward to seeing
what kind of reaction that is, and I'm really hoping for some
good hate comments on that one because you know how I love a
good hate comment. Yeah, yeah.
They'll be allowed. I'll be branded.
At saying this and I'll be like, yes, do it, I'll take it.
Yeah, dog, as you know why? Who cares?
Listen. I always say my biggest trolls
are the religious ones, the people that the people that keep
coming back and trolling. You know, sometimes it's like an
ex member of the community that just, you know, was, was was a
nut case to begin with. But most of the time it's a it's
over. Well dude, did I ever tell you
the story about the guy at the cemetery?
Well, that's vague. I mean, I, you know, you got to
do a little. More so.
So I at one point documented a lot this abandoned cemetery.
It was 3 cemeteries rolled into one.
You came with me. It's the cemetery we went to.
OK. Do you remember walking in the
big water tower? Yes.
OK, well, for years they were working on that water tower.
All right, So one day, a one of these religious trolls took the
opportunity to dress up like one of the workers and come to the
cemetery and talk to me. And at first he acted normal,
like he was one of the workers, right?
And then all the sudden he started going on about Jesus and
talking to spirits of the devil and like all this crazy stuff.
And then, you know, I'm like, all right, man, right.
When he started saying that stuff, I was like, all right,
man, yeah, I'm good, I'm good. Come to find out, I end up one
of the workers ends up bumming a cigarette off me and I'm talking
to him. And I'm like, yo, where's the,
where's the little, where's the little short dude that's always
going on about Jesus? And they're like.
Oh, the guy you were talking to the other day, he doesn't work
with us. Right.
A crazy. That's great.
They're the worst ended to work with the company that was fixing
the damn water tower just to tell me that they're demons.
Think about it bro, think about what it takes.
The level of crazy, like I'm going to dress up like a water
tower worker and preach the word of Jesus to this guy out in the
middle of a cemetery. It's like what is happening?
Yeah, they're crazy, right? I mean, it's like they're the
worst. I would rather hang out with
ghosts. They I'll.
Tell you why they have to be crazy.
Because there's enough Christians in my community and
people that that do believe in the devil, do believe in God,
that wouldn't even think to try to convince me that I'm speaking
to demons. You know what I'm saying?
That's how I know. Like even the ones that actually
think they are demons. Yeah, they're, they're closeted.
They're properly, they're properly closeted about it.
They stay, they keep their mouth shut about it and they just talk
about it behind your back, but they're not going to fuck your
face about it, which is fine. Which is fine.
Yeah. You know, so it's, it's, it's
pretty crazy to think about. It really is.
Yeah. How some of these people get and
how some of these people will act.
But that's the fanatics, Gary. It's in everything.
And fanatics give religions bad
names, you know. Talk about here's some of this
not crazy, these people aren't crazy, but have you listened
maybe to some of the fans out there have I know somebody also
emailed me about it, but I'm very well aware of it because
it's super popular, the Telepathy Tapes.
Have you listened to this this podcast?
Yes, yes. Yep, Yep, Yep.
Wild stuff. Wild, wild stuff.
If you don't know what it is, it's a podcast called The
Telepathy Tapes. I have no dog in this fight.
I'm not getting a kickback. It's just a great podcast that's
kind of, you know, fringe science about, you know,
autistic people and people who can't speak, but yet they're
communicating telepathically with each other with the dead.
It is crazy and not like crazy like crazy like wild like you
know. Yeah, it makes you think, well,
you know, I was talking a little bit about that today.
You know what I had a conversation on on, you know,
the stream that we that we, that we could have had today on here.
So I'll just repeat the conversation.
I asked a series of questions when it came to the actual
theories of, you know, splintered spirits, you know,
fragmented memories, you know, like one of them was very
simple. Is there a connection between
the, the person like saying myself and you know, a spirit
I'm talking to if I know them? So let's say hypothetically, I
went and I spoke to a family member.
Would the memories I'm speaking to react with the memories that
are in my head of that person? How would they?
How would it, how would it reflect that the spirit I'm
speaking to and the memories I'm speaking to, what kind of
connection would, would, would happen, give?
Me, give me a, give me a specific example of what you're
saying, like in terms of like knowing that you're on the same
wavelength. Yeah, I'm not going to use me,
I'll use somebody else. So for example, let's say, you
know, Joe tomato Sauce goes to a cemetery and speaks to his
grandmother, OK? And he's speaking to his 17 year
old grandmother, the version of her that's coming through right
now, the memories that are there.
No, John, Where'd you go? Well, he's gone.
Mimi. You're right.
Every religion does have their Napoles, but Catholics are
historically the worst. Hold on, John.
You broke up for a second and then you came back.
No, I'm not. I'm lost.
I got to come back. Come back.
Wait, wait. There you are.
Be right back, everybody. You're right there.
All right, He's going to jump out.
I mean, did you ever hear of a little something called the
Spanish Inquisition? Some of the worst.
Yeah. We got to get John a better
setup in there. I keep telling him about it.
We got to get a better computer setup for podcasts, and we got
to get that fucking tooth fixed. What's up, Andrew?
What's up, Jess? Yeah.
Somebody kicked him out, right. Some demon kicked him out.
Robin, Sky bow. Do you think the fractured or
splintered spirits at different ages ever encounter each other?
You know, we tried to play that game with Edward, so we're sort
of messing around with that. I'd love to keep playing with
it. You know, that's that was a fun
sort of test. And there was the weird, there
was the weird moment that we, John and I messed it up in the
podcast where we said, you know, we told one of the memories, the
younger version of Edward, that I was his uncle.
And we told the other one that I was his brother.
But then the one we lied to got it right.
Now we can't figure out maybe we ever mentioned that I was his
uncle somewhere, but he knew the truth about it.
Or he said uncle, which was pretty neat and said, you know,
so I don't know. That only happened once.
I don't think one time is enough to prove anything.
OK 17 year old grandmother Joe tomato sauce goes to visits his
grandmother. The 17 year old version here
comes through for whatever reason, right?
All the sudden, the memories that Joe has with his
grandmother connect with the 17 year old version of her.
All right? Now the 17 year old version of
her, even though it doesn't have those memories or it does, who
knows? I don't know if a connection
happens there. That's just one small example of
what I'm talking about. Like we don't know, like the
living aspect, the DNA relation, the, you know, overall.
Or I can put that to the side, apply the same concepts of the
theory to myself. What happens when I am here at
the tower and Ernest Simons, the factory owner, you know, is, is
around me and then I go to his grave at the cemetery?
Well, I have a little data on that.
I know what happens. Neither of them react.
They don't know. They don't know that that
happened. Like they don't know that I
spoke to. It's his memories here at the
factory as opposed to whatever is lying, you know, at his
grave, at his headstone. In fact, I screwed up and called
the owner of the factory by the wrong name multiple times and he
was getting pissed at me, but here he never brought it up.
Well, I was telling, I was telling them how you were going
about even our early episodes where we talked to Edward and
young Edward and we messed up uncle brother, the uncle brother
lie. And we heard one of them say,
you know the one we told that I was your brother, said uncle.
But we can't pinpoint exactly if we messed that up or like did he
ever hear us say uncle? But it still was cool because we
were pretty good about it as far as I could tell.
But you know, one time does not a theory prove but.
It is an interesting sort. Of it is an interesting sort of
case study in this whole thing of how these memories might be
connected for sure. Yeah.
I'm dying to figure out, and I told you I'm dying to figure
out. The only, Oh, let me interject
too, because this might help with the which what you're
thinking about the the only real data that I have about spirits
and memory is the fact that spirits can forget.
So let me dive into this. I call it old memory versus new
memory. This is when I really started
speaking about, you know, the fractured memories and you know,
different memories everywhere in spirits or memory is when I had
the old, old memory versus new memory theory proven.
I went to a cemetery. The spirits completely forgot
who I was. Some of them didn't even know
who I was at all, which made no sense because I was with them
all the time. Some of them remembered, some of
them did not, and ones that didn't like me started liking
me, almost like they thought I was a completely different
person. And, and as far as the way I
described it on Live Today, it was Joseph T June, who I spent
the most time with. Hates me, wants nothing to do
with me now. JJ, I'm a completely JJ hates
you. Yeah, Joseph T June completes,
thinks, thinks I'm a complete asshole, wants nothing to do
with me now, where Elmer, who didn't like me, likes me now.
And Virginia never forgot who I was.
And that's because I think of the cat I left a cat on on
there, a brass cat on her headstone as a gift.
And I think the gift was a constant reminder of who I was,
which is why she never lost the memory and her husband never
lost the memory either. So the fact that there is an old
memory versus new memory, and the fact that his spirit can
lose that memory if not properly stimulated means that not only
are our spirits memory, but they can build a spiritual synapsis.
Well, it's like if they're connected, right?
Well, if they're using energy, well, it goes to absorption of
energy of some kind, right? That's why the thermals have a,
you know, a black spot or a black hole.
If that's if that is a ghost, right?
That would mean there's a lack of heat, a lack of energy there.
I wonder, is there a way? Yeah, this is interesting,
right. It's like, how do you get the
same spirit to chat to itself? That's see, that's interesting.
How would we do that? I don't know that.
I don't know. We would have to somehow
successfully take a spirit from one location to another, but how
would we even? Oh shit, did you just hear that?
I heard it. Yeah, fucking this box just
knocked over out of nowhere. I should not.
I have this, this, it, it's what the Infinity mirror came in and
it was right there. It's been there since the
Infinity mirror came in and it literally just big ass heavy box
with metal trim. Wooden box with metal trim
knocked over out of nowhere. Well, they don't like you, John.
Someone's mad. Someone someone's feeling
ignored and. It was feeling ignored.
Yeah. Crazy, right?
Yeah. That's the shit that happens
here all the time in the tower. That's normal.
I just had to replace the toilet seat.
Lisa destroyed the toilet seat. It was literally a crack right
in it. It was Lisa who did it.
It had to be. She's the angry bathroom spirit,
you know? Has to be.
Who else? The one that told me to go F
myself that slams the toilet seat down Has to be.
It's funny. Man.
That is funny, man. What?
Let's see here, you know, so of shit, I had a thought and it
went out of my head. We're talking about memory,
we're talking about testing these girls.
Maybe it requires like another medium session to go there and
try to see to do it. I want to try all this shit
because I want all the people who don't like certain things
that you do and I want to test all of it.
Like I some of my favorite stuff is when you get the same
response on two different apps by two different companies.
And I would love it out. And I definitely want to try it
with like these things that like, you know, the, the
hardcore, the people who consider themselves hardcore,
you know, use like those SB 50s, whatever those things are the
obvious. Yeah, like the ovulous thing.
Like those are like they, they must be good, you know?
So, but it's like, all right, well, let's see, you know, I'd
love to try all that stuff to see if you get the same
personalities. Well the only thing here, here's
the issue. Here's the issue.
You can't put the SB-7, the SB11, or any portal boxes, even
the Oculus. You can't put all that in the
same boat as the apps and a lot of people that love and swear by
the SB Sevens, the SB Elevens, and all the other type of
equipment. Hate when I say this, but I'm
going to say it. I am sorry, I'm sorry, I am very
sorry, but the apps are the upgraded versions of what you're
using. The apps are the technology
progressing. It's the difference between
using a screwdriver and a screw gun anyway.
Well, isn't it? What is it doing?
It's, it's scanning radio waves, right?
Yes, but it's scanning which kind of radio waves is it
scanning AM radio or FM radio? Both, so it depends if you're
using a homemade one, which I've made before, hell the the Elmont
back there is a hybrid of of both.
If you're using, you know, if you're using a homemade 1, you
can switch back and forth if you want.
If you're using an SD-7 or SD-11, I believe you can switch
back and forth soon. But the, but listen, the, the
apps are the upgraded technology and that's what, that's what
they're, that's what they're against.
At the end of the day, that's what they're against.
They're against the upgraded technology.
I would. I think it's probably.
They feel it's bogus. Well, I think it's more about
the fact that they don't know how it's working.
No, they can't. Under they don't know what, they
don't know what the code is, so they don't buy it and they're
not interested in that's. But if I had to get it if I
want. To give them people the benefit
of the doubt, I would say because it's using digital radio
and they don't know like how what it's actually right What
what it let's go look. I know the magnetometer 1.
Will. Trigger words based on the
amount of magnetic waves. Most, yeah.
But here's the thing, most of the apps that are out there use
the Medometer, OK? Most of them.
All right. There's only two really famous
ones that don't, all right. But yeah, most of most of them
will. But that's.
What I'm saying but and I know how those work.
Sounds or words bank? Right, but that's that the way
they work, blame it because you, you know, it's the way they
would work is there's, you know, they the frequencies that it's
hits then triggers a, you know, randomization of words in a
certain bank for that frequency, right.
That's that's kind of how it that's kind of how it's playing
up. It's pulling the words in from
that. And that.
Same. I don't know how the digital
Radio One works like from a well, technological code.
Yeah, well, that same frequency, well, the digital Radio One,
it's not digital, it's more analog.
It's literally like using an old school radio.
That's what the SP7 and SP11 is. Believe it or not, the Oculus is
actually closer related to the apps than it is the SP7 and
SP11. It's more like a a next step, if
you will. Yeah, it's certainly more.
It's certainly more expensive. Yeah, there's going to be tons
of people that are going to disagree with the words I said
about it being the next technology, right?
However, it's still the frequency that's affecting the
SB-7 and the SB11 through the radio waves.
Hale's sitting on her farm somewhere with an SB-7.
Hale's into some shit, dude. Do you know anything about Hale?
Hale's in some shit. Yeah, I've met Hale.
Oh yeah, one of my moms. Yeah, she came down for the
party. If you end up making it to the
party, the dinner party for the Santa Paranormal, she'll
probably get to meet her yourself.
Oh man, yeah, look at her with an SB-7, knowing all that
history. She's into something.
She's got some files. And you're right.
And Jess, you're right, all that stuff is expensive too.
It's super expensive. It's like it's all made by 1,
the same company. It's no different in my like
then I don't really know. I you know what I shouldn't even
talk about it. I've never used it.
I've never tried to use it. I should try to use it.
I would like to try to use it and see.
I'm not going to knock it until I have can hear that cat.
Relax there, boxing. She's digging deep into the
bowels of the of the tower. Let's, I mean, this is a little
modified because actually I'll just pull that off.
What are you holding in your? Hands, this is an SV7.
OK, this is an SV7, right? All this is, is an actual made
for ghost hunting radio. That is it.
As opposed to what we used to use back in the day, which were
actual radios that we modified ourselves by taking the clips
and pings out so it would constantly just scan.
Can you turn that on? Is that got batteries in it?
I'd have to go look for batteries.
And. And everything else.
And you take an SP7 or SP11 and you attach it to a couple pedals
and a small amp. And actually, you know, you got
a, you got a portal box. I see.
Yeah, it's I don't understand. And we've talked about this 100
times, the Estes method, which I just don't understand it.
I've watched, I, I look, I listen, I've reached out to the
guy who created it. I would love to get him on the
podcast to tell, explain it to me.
I have watched other people do it.
I anybody who doesn't like the apps but says that's legit.
I am so confused. I'm just confused.
Please explain it to me. If it's like you're basically
putting a blindfold on in headphones and it's like spirit,
what's your name? And then the guy with headphones
or the girl with headphones on and and covers like Sam and
you're like what the fuck? Like what?
What am I supposed to? How am I supposed to know if
that's legit? I don't understand.
I don't understand it. It's amazing what people explain
it to me. It's amazing what people will
turn around and say is fake and then condoned.
I don't get it. I I want to get it, guys.
I want to get it. If anybody in the paranormal
sphere is out there and loves the S DS method and understands
it in a way that can convince me or tell me why not that you owe
me any convincing, but I'm just curious.
Why is it that other than that it looks spooky, right?
I mean it's looks spooky on camera.
You got to. Everybody loves a good.
Spooky, you know, right. It's got a blindfold on.
You got these headphones on like this and you're like covered up
and it's this whole thing. And like, oh, man, I'm just
going to start yelling out words like, you know, they got
Tourette's or something. And maybe they might line up
with what they're asking. And it's like but what I don't
understand and the reason? Why?
And the reason why I don't do it is because it's so easily faked.
I feel like it would contaminate my documentation to do it.
I really do with just how like blind double-blind of my
documentation gets. You know, like the rules I
follow, not calling a spirit by their name, you know, waiting
for the responses. Things like that dude.
But Hale, So Hale's explaining. Hale I understand that it's that
it's sensory deprivation, but what I'm saying is, hell on
God's green earth, can you sit there and try to say it's legit
versus anything else, or any more legit than anything else
like it looks? Ridiculous.
I mean, it's just sort of like, how do I?
And it's not true sensory deprivation.
It's not, I'm sorry, it's. Not and if you know if you're
supposed to it's they're sitting there they're they're like, why
are we adding you're adding a middleman, correct right.
It's plugged into the SP7 or it's plugged into an app or it's
plugged into the thing. But rather than hearing the
thing, we're just hearing the person say the thing right.
That's. It's like, it's like if ghost
hunting was run by the United States government.
Right, so you've actually added. Adding the middle man.
In you've added a middle man, you've added more business and
then but that makes it more credible.
I don't see it. I'm not.
I'm not getting it. More room for air.
You're not. Getting it.
I just don't. But like I don't.
Why am I blanking on? Why can't I just hear the thing
say it? Why do I need this person
plugged into it to tell me what it?
Says it's like working backwards.
It really is. But that's not even why I don't
do it. I don't do it because it's so
easily fake. You could so easily sit there
and fake it and be like, oh, the spirit said.
Thanks. Well, yeah, that's what I'm
saying. I mean, like, but let's give
people the benefit of the doubt. Let's say for a second they're
telling the absolute truth and they're repeating exactly what
they hear in the spirit box. Why the fuck are they doing
that? Why do they need to do it?
Why do they need to? Do it for ourselves.
Why? Can't we just hear it?
Why do I need to? Why do we have to put you in the
seat? I, I just, I don't know, man.
It's like, it's, I don't get it. I don't know what we're gaining
from. I really don't.
Guys, I would love it. I'd love a real proponent of it.
What if we ever have a guest come on, like, you know, that
really doesn't like real swears by or something?
I'm going to ask the shit out of this question because I want to
see what their belief system is. Yeah, I don't know, listen, like
I, I just, it's one of those things and it's just amazing
what people consider like actual bullshit and what people think
is real. And it's like, wait a minute, if
you're going to believe A, why can't B be real?
Well, it's like, like I'll even give like the, the Bible
thumpers the the benefit of the doubt when they say you know
you're speaking to demons. It's like, listen, I acknowledge
that what I'm speaking to might be something else.
I acknowledge you all the time, which is why I say don't do this
with your loved ones. Don't fire up a spirit box at
your, you know, your, your father's, your mother's, your
brothers, your sisters, your children's grave.
Don't do it. You don't know what's coming
through, but just sit back and be like, it has to be demons.
What if it's something scarier? What if it's Billy Bob, who
likes to watch children's playgrounds for on his spare
time, you know, And then he died cut, you know, and now he's
trying to get a human attachment.
Yeah, right. Or, or, or.
Yeah, or. Father Ignatius, who also like
to watch children in his spare time.
Exactly. For real?
You know, dude, it's, it's, it's wild.
It it really is. What was the going to say?
So oh, here's something you know, this is this is we got
some fun things coming up. So next week for the live, we
have got a person called Rebecca the ghost guide.
If you guys don't know who Rebecca the ghost guide is, She
is she's a big paranormal influencer medium on insta.
She's also she sort of got a little notoriety because she had
a relationship with a ghost. She dated 1, you know, like had
they got you know, I I don't know the full story.
That's what we're going to talk to her about.
But like she has a real academic and educational approach to in
in a very similar way to what John says about how to approach
ghosts and how to protect yourself with ghosts.
But in this case, apparently she got really interested in this
ghost. And they were, they had, they
had shared stories together that felt like it was a relationship.
I guess I'm, I'm very curious to talk to her more about it and
how she held that line when you're talking to spirit
communication. But it's going to be very fun,
so and very interesting. And she really wants to educate
people on this stuff, this. Is going to be the first guest
that we had on Splintered Spirits that actually has a very
similar theories to my theories. The way she talks about spirits,
the way she talks about spirits being separated, just everything
intent, different word play, but ultimately the same thing.
So it's going to be very. Interesting.
I'm excited. She's she's clever.
She's really clever. She's really smart.
Very interesting to hear her take.
I am very, very excited to hear what she has to say.
Her Instagram is super fun. She's like, you know, she she
creates these like her Instagram is like she makes sketches out
of her ghost out of her conversations with spirits,
which is interesting and very fun.
So it's like, check her out. Rebecca, the ghost guy.
She's supposed to join us next week, next Thursday for our
live. I'm very excited for it.
And it really speaks to this, you know, think about how many
spirits, John, have tried to cross the line with you.
A lot. I mean, it happened.
It happened two nights ago. It happened two nights ago.
Dude, did you see that video? No.
The spirit straight up word for word, the spirit says pussy and
I'm like, I'm like. Was it called, wait, was it
calling you a pussy like you're a big pussy or was like, hey, I
didn't, I didn't know yet for you.
I I, I didn't know yet until it, it spoke more so it says pussy
and I'm like, wait, what did, what'd you say, Spirit?
And straight up it said we said pussy.
So directly responding to my question like directly, no
interpretation there. Then it says do you want it?
And you kind of did a little right, weren't you a little
curious? And then I was like, Nah,
spirit, I'm happily married, thank you, yadda yadda yadda.
I was still in disbelief that it that it like I thought it was
calling me pussy. Like I read that I thought it
was calling me a pussy rather than offering.
It was it was pretty wild. Yeah, it.
Was pretty wild. That is the.
Video I I. I'll check it out.
This might get demonetized. Who gives a shit?
This is one of those. I gotta take the chance, you
know? And look for, you know, 'cause
the chat's a little late when I see it.
So look for when we're talking about a relationship with the
spirit, I think you got to think of it like, don't get weird or
creepy about it. I think think of it like a pen
pal, how people can develop a relationship with a pen pal
they've never met, right? You could share stories, become
connected to somebody in a way that is like we have a
relationship, even though you've never met that person, you've
shared, you know, details, you've shared secrets, you've
done all these things, right? I mean, it doesn't have to get
it's in this case, it's obviously very unique because
we're talking about a spirit, which we're going to ask her
about, but and what that line is and how you hold that line.
But for the most part, it's no different than, you know, why is
it any different than anything else?
I mean, you know, stranger things have happened, right?
People develop, people develop relationships online and they
think that's somebody and then it turns out they just got
catfished and it's not. So what's the you know, really,
what is the difference? And they still have feelings for
that person even afterwards. Yeah.
You know, so, like, imagine that.
So. Right.
Listen, I, I I get it. I get it.
I really do like you. You can develop a relationship
with an entity. It it can happen, you know?
Yeah. Oh.
Yeah, this is a good point, right?
AI people are having relationships with AI people
are. I mean, you know, it's it's so
it's a yeah, man, People, can they let themselves go, right?
It's easier. It's could be easier.
Oh, by the way, Speaking of AI everyone, you get a kick out of
this because the comments are already flying in about it on
the video that that test promo video for splintered spirits.
I did and I dropped it on TikTok.
TikTok thinks it's AI. How is that possible?
I have no idea. You know what dude?
Here I'm going to say this it. Says it says this video is AI
generated. I'm like.
You doing that? You doing that video, man?
It's funny and I and I say this with love, but it's like it's
you having to record with. We lost him.
He'll come back though. A lot of issues this live, huh?
A lot of technical issues? Isn't it crazy when that
happens? I'm using here, I'm here, I'm
here. But it's like, you know, it was
one of those things where I watched it and it's just like,
hello, splintered spirits fans, did you do you?
It's like, do you like want to know what spirits are?
Have you ever asked the question, what are spirits?
Well, if you have ever asked the question, what are spirits, you
should check out my podcast Splintered spirits.
I mean, it's so like stiff and it's so funny because it's like,
hi, I'm John Santa. Do you wonder what spirits are?
It's the Ghostbusters commercial.
I mean it really is very similar to dude, to that whole that's.
Literally, dude, it's, it's yeah, yeah.
And by the way, get ready for the fun with those.
There's going to be a lot of different types.
Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you, dude, try what I said.
I think you'll be more natural. I think it'd be fun.
It'd be real fast Furious. I I wouldn't overthink it, but
you can have a lot of fun with that.
Yeah, if you if you have some fun with and you can have some
fun with your fans too. So what these are going to these
are going to replace my old going live shortly videos, you
know, so they're going to get different and they're going to
get like it's going to be really random.
Some of them are going to be like like trick, like you think
it's like from my actual live stream, but then it's not, you
know, it's like pop out behind a tree, you know what I'm saying?
Like it's going to be fun. You're going to have a lot of
fun with it. You know, it's actually going to
be real content creation rather than, you know, me going live
and then just documenting. So that's what my content is now
on my pages. It's all from my live streams.
You know, none of this planned. It's all you know.
Right. Well, that's why that's.
Do what you're going to do. That's why I think you know,
you're if you do it as a quick live bite, you might it might be
a little you won't get flat for that.
You're just a natural as on live, you know, but that was
like, hi, I am John Santa. You're talking like, you know,
like Black Panther with no contractions.
You know what I mean? It's like hello.
So, so with that original and I just, I just couldn't gather it
together. I actually had it.
I had like an like from when I, I got married, I was going to
wear a very similar outfit to when I got married with the bow
tie and all that. And I was just, you know, dude,
I was just originally going to do it from the waist up.
But like, I'm so picture this, it's after the lives I'm done.
I go, I go to put this on. This shit doesn't fit anymore.
You know what I mean? I had to throw this back in my
driver's car. You know what?
That we're going. To film it to stay white.
But we're going to do it like this.
The funny that video you could have like would have been funny
too with that video, another fun what could have made it even
funnier than it already is. What you still could do.
It's just if you had somebody standing there, but they were
all so stoic and not smiling, like, hi, I am like, you don't
know. And then this person, like,
hands you things to say like, yeah, you know, like they're
just like your assistant, but they don't, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome.
I hand them something and then they just throw it all, you
know, they go all like. Yeah, you know, do you ever
wonder what spirits are? Then you should listen to my
podcast. That's that's funny dude that I
thought you were AI because it. Yeah, that is, that's how well
that came out. As far as like the difference,
dude, I can't wait. I'm gonna have so much fun with
it. It's gonna be cool.
We were talking about it earlier, like all the different
ideas. So get ready, guys, because
those videos, I want those to be kind of comical in a way, you
know? And it's really just it.
It'll be cool we got to. Spread the word, folks, spread
the word. We want more people, we want
more bodies. We want to hit 1000 Subs on
YouTube. We want to get, you know,
overall, I want this. Podcast.
To hit at least 5000 subscribers across YouTube and Spotify.
We're not close. But we're getting.
Much closer to that first. 1000. On YouTube, which is big, that's
a big deal. We probably about less than less
than 1/4 of the way there for that.
And if everybody that is following actually listened to
the episodes, we would hit those hours.
We need to so think about that, right?
So it's like we got everyone's got to catch up, listen because
it's the only way that we're going to be able to keep this
going. The bigger we are, the better
the guests we are. We will be able to get.
I can convince people to come on something.
It's much easier to convince people to come on to something
successful. Nothing gets a crowd like a
crowd then just being like, hey, we're 2 Dicks.
We started a podcast. Will you join us on here?
It's like, you know, they're not going to be like, I don't know
about you 2 Dicks, but it's like we can probably maybe we'll
think about it, you know, but there's some people we've
reached out to you like, you know, I know they're trolling.
I'm sure they might be trolling John right now because they're
like, who's this guy? Let me go see before they
commit, you know? So it's we got to show them.
We got to show them. We got a fan base that it
matters, right? Go out and read a book by one of
our guests. Get yourself a reading from
Kathy Nidal. I thought you were going to take
that just. End it.
You know I'm just going to end it.
Like go out and read a. Book.
Go out and read a book. You.
You're morons. You know your book.
Any book. Just do.
Yourself a favor, go out there and read a book.
No, a lot of our guests are authors, guys.
They got a lot of shit to say and they say it well.
You should read it. If you like this stuff, read it.
It's it's actually interesting. I don't know, look, I don't know
Dick about this stuff, but I've been reading these books and
they're quite, they're quite, dude.
Sam's book was great. The the other one I read and you
guys, but you guys will relate. To you guys will be able to read
that book and recognize stuff that you've seen John do.
That's wild. Yeah.
Yeah, Well, Pete, that's another thing people pointed out to me,
Gary. They said like, like guests like
that like and with like that have done the stuff that I've
done and and have different perspectives.
Like we automatically like vibe, you know what I mean?
And it just really makes for a awesome episode with, you know,
a lot of awesome banter and conversation.
And it was great. Sam's a great guest.
His his research is great. You know, I actually, you know.
Yeah. And everybody shoot me and know,
you know, in terms of people you'd like to see on here, is
there anybody else that you follow that you like anybody
else in the paranormal space that you trust, that you that
that's just good. You know that that you value
don't trust or you don't trust. But anybody you like?
Anybody out there whatever. And it doesn't have to totally
be, you know, in the ghost world.
I mean look in about so in about a month.
Or three weeks. We've got our Salem witch that
you guys are going to say totally different point of view.
It's like an old Salem witch, which is going to be it's really
fun. I mean, it's half and she speaks
in rhyme and like spirits, you know, and witch speak and it's
like she cackles even a little bit sometimes and it's like
funny man. And she's very like very loving,
very kind and very like, you know, this is the way the world
works. She is all about positivity
like. That is like she's, she's just
all about positivity. Like she emanates it.
She really does. She's like all about it, you
know. So it's really, really cool
guests. We got some good ones coming up.
John, I got to jump. I got to call it a day.
Yep, I hear you this. Was really fun guys.
Thank you all for. Watching.
Please be sure to like and subscribe wherever you get your
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Go get a friend to do it too do it open a fake account and and
like and subscribe with that let's get those numbers up.
I don't give a shit dude. You want to win the game?
I'm ready to rig the game son. It's like let's go.
You know what I mean like let's go.
What do you do? You like the personality you?
Adapt, you know, Yeah, you could be a whole new person A.
Whole new start, a whole new identity.
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Have fun tonight. Be safe.
Thank you all. Right, everybody, we'll see you.