1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:06,120 I'm too old, dude, I'm too old. Dude, you know, and I always try 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,440 to explain like I try to read every comment, try to interact 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,520 with everybody, depending on what I'm doing, sometimes, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,320 sometimes it's just impossible because it's just the site, 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,880 especially where I am, if I'm somewhere during the day and 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,480 it's a bright background and like it's, it's nearly 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,520 impossible. Tammy Karina. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,480 Heather Gracie, what's going on, guys? 9 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:38,160 Box, He's joining us for this session. 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,320 It's funny box. Is joining us yeah. 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,920 So it it is we're we're you know, you're older than me. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,160 Yeah, yeah, yes. You know what? 13 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:53,880 That, you know what that is? That's from years and years of 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,160 US playing video games up close to TV, because we have. 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Part of it's genetics. I think it's just old, Old 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,960 people eyes. Yeah, old people eyes. 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,840 The next time I talk to his spirit, I got to ask Him. 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,480 I got to be like, hey, what's your eyesight like? 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Yeah, yeah. Does your eyesight get better 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,840 when you're dead? It's a real question. 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,280 Like, wouldn't it suck if you like, you wake up dead and you 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,440 can't find your glasses and you got to go through eternity with 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,800 like, I can't see shit? Right, 2020 vision my ass, you 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,120 know. Oh my God. 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,160 So the other night when I was at the cemetery joking or I was 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,560 humid, Uncle Gary, it was humid like, I mean like. 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,680 That's gross. I hate it. 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,280 I know. I hate the humidity. 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,280 I am just sweating and. It's the worst. 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Nonchalantly say to the spirits, spirits, you're lucky you're 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,000 dead and you probably can't feel the humidity. 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,560 And it's and it and the spirit cursed me out when I said that 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,160 spirit got upset and I did realize like it's kind of like, 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,680 you know, they might have take taken it as mocking them like 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,120 hey, you're dead. You can't feel this. 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,760 But like they got upset when I said it and I was like oops. 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Well, it's like you know, you should you should chill out. 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,240 I hate the humidity. It's another interesting to add 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,280 it to the list. What's up Hope or M Hope or 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,800 mope? What do you like to say? 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,600 Your name? It's hope Shadowhunter what's 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,880 going on. See what's happening? 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,920 It's funny. Everybody. 44 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:25,720 Welcome. Welcome. 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,640 We're starting to get the people in there trickling in. 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Yeah. You take one week off live and 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,080 it's like you're 40. People go down to 10. 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,440 These are the diehards, John. The other ones who are like, 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,520 they got to sit on their phone. They're like, when these mother 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,280 effers go live, we're there. I am there. 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,960 It's like the bathroom. Yeah. 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,000 It's like, you know why? It's just. 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Like the spirits live, you know? They don't. 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,120 But yes, everyone, this is Splintered Spirits, the podcast 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,680 where we talk about all things paranormal with John Santa from 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Santa Paranormal and me, Gary, as we try to figure out what 57 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,560 spirits are, if we ever can. But we are going to do our 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,680 damnedest to try. John, what happens in the world 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,640 of paranormal for you this past two weeks? 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,080 We didn't get to catch up last week. 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Oh man, unfortunately the weather was just such a bummer. 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,040 You know, I was, I was definitely kept indoors quite a 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,920 bit interesting, though. Like, you know, the tower is the 64 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:23,920 tower. I mean, last night, the night 65 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:28,480 before, for example, the bathroom spirit Lisa slams the 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,120 toilet seat down. I mean like. 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Did you leave it up? Because that's not very 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,520 gentleman all the time. I'll leave it up all the time. 69 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,840 Not a gentleman, you're not. You're not a gentleman. 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Well, Lisa's there. Yeah, well, you know what? 71 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,760 She slams it. That's not my problem. 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,240 She doesn't pay rent, you know, I do. 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,080 So I leave it up, you know, for myself, I leave it up. 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,920 So she got pissed, She slammed that, and then about an hour 75 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,920 later she threw something. Well, I don't want to say it was 76 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,560 her, but somebody threw something upstairs while I was 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,200 down here. What? 78 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Did they throw do you know? It was it actually it was a 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,560 small 6 pack of AA rechargeable batteries and the case that 80 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,920 recharges them is what ended up getting get ended up getting 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,680 tossed. So luckily they broke the case 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,760 but luckily I had another one. So they got they got upset. 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,440 They got upset for short. Don't know why. 84 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,840 I don't know if it was Lisa, but. 85 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,400 What do you think gets them? What do you think effects 86 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:33,200 spirits? The mood of spirits. 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,960 Listen, that's an interesting question because it could be so 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,360 many different factors. I have noticed in the past that 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,680 my mood will affect the spirits as well. 90 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,360 So if I'm in a piss poor mood, it will, you know, the spirits 91 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,280 will not respond to me like they normally would. 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,720 I have to be in a very good mood and then I'm walking a fine line 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,760 because if I'm in a good mood then I'm all over the place, you 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,040 know. So it's, it's like if I can 95 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,240 catch that vein, that fine line and walk it where I'm in a good 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,040 mood, I can talk to the spirits. It's perfect. 97 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:16,720 But my mood seems to affect them. 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Well, why do you think that is? Why do you think a mood? 99 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,440 What? What do you think mood effects 100 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,200 spirits? It definitely has to do with a 101 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,960 spirit either feeding off the byproduct of what we release, 102 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,000 you know, as humans, Like when we're angry, when we're, you 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,760 know, sad, when we're happy, you know, that, you know, just 104 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,720 whatever that is. I don't know what that is, but 105 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,960 it's definitely something, you know, and that affects the 106 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,760 spirits. And I've noticed like, for 107 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:52,960 example, I like, like, I try not to get angry at places the same 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,920 way I, I don't get scared, you know, getting scared isn't my 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,160 issue. Getting angry is an issue 110 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,960 because I don't know what that's going to feed. 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,000 I don't know what that's going to feed. 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,200 And maybe it's the same reason why some spirits attach and they 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,320 try to, you know, attach to us as humans and they try to some 114 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,440 pretend to be our loved ones just to get that feeling. 115 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,640 I mean there could be multiple reasons. 116 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,200 What exactly is, was it was it Brandon that was talking about 117 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,040 attachments in this way? What, what, what do you, you 118 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,440 know, what exactly is, you know, attachment when you say that, 119 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,040 like when you say they're going to get attached, what are they 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,760 attaching to and what is that? What is that like? 121 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,200 What do? What do you mean by that? 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,240 So theoretically, you would think they would attach to your 123 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,520 nervous system. You think they would actually 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,600 attach to the nervous system, which you know, runs up to the 125 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,800 brain. Theoretically. 126 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,760 It's not like they're going to latch onto your ear. 127 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Biologically, you're saying? Biologically and but there's 128 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,160 different, many different forms of attachments. 129 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,480 Like there's a difference between a spirit that's 130 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,080 following you say, like when I'm walking around the cemetery and 131 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,720 I know I have a spirit following me. 132 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,440 Or if, you know, something latches on to me and comes home 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,000 with me or goes to a different location, you know, and there's 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,440 different degrees of attachments, you know, and then 135 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,520 at what part does an attachment actually become a possession? 136 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,680 You know, it's, it's really interesting to think about. 137 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,160 There's so many different levels to it. 138 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,720 All right, I mean, it's, it's like because it's is it they are 139 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,200 becoming a part of you or is it like just a crazy ex-girlfriend 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,920 who won't leave you alone? And is that an attachment? 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Crazy ex-girlfriend. I don't think they become a part 142 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,240 of you. I think they try. 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Right. But then it's like more of an 144 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,040 they get obsessed with you for some reason, so they're 145 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,920 following you around. But then why can't they do that 146 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,480 whenever they want? But you're saying Intent can 147 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,680 stop them somehow from doing that? 148 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Yes, if you have if, if your intent is strong enough. 149 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,680 And again, I think it goes back into your feelings and what 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,960 you're releasing. You know, when I go to these 151 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,080 places, it's like you're you're not following me. 152 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,240 You went, you're not attaching to me, You know, and I bend that 153 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,720 rule a little bit depending on where I'm at. 154 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,680 If I'm walking around the cemetery, yeah, you want to 155 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,600 follow me, go right ahead. But you're not following me when 156 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,920 I leave. You'd almost like your mental 157 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:23,960 status is what effects that. Well, it's almost What's odd 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:29,520 about it is that in this theory, spirits respect consent. 159 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,039 I mean, you know. What I'm saying like it's like 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,480 consent is clearly important in the spirit world. 161 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Yes, yes, yo, permission, consent. 162 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,720 Oh yeah, definitely. Right. 163 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Like, whoa, sorry, you know, Yeah, they're stepping back. 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,560 For some reason, that followed me around for about a month 165 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:55,720 every time I went to this particular cemetery. 166 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,840 His name was Joshua. I will never. 167 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Forget the spirit. Tell us about Joshua. 168 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,560 The spirits did. But tell us about Josh. 169 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,560 What do you know about Joshua? First of all, like how old was 170 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:06,640 his soldier? Was it a? 171 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,920 No, so Joshua was a a new burial. 172 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,280 He was he was definitely a newer like a a newer spirit. 173 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,480 He was definitely somebody that was buried in the section that I 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,880 normally don't go to. And this spirit, all he talked 175 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,080 about was food, mainly, mainly Italian food. 176 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,680 Like that's a it took me a bit to realize this because I 177 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:32,880 thought it was just advertisements, radio, you know, 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,880 talking about food. But then he's like John, I love 179 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,880 marinara sauce. You know, I really like chicken 180 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,720 parm too. And I'm like, I got a spirit 181 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,280 following me around talking about food. 182 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,400 So imagine this spirit. Maybe we have a conversation and 183 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,960 then all of a sudden, hell no, don't forget about pizza, you 184 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,640 know, And it's like Josh. So it was, it was funny. 185 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,480 And then for about a week, this, this actually is a darker story. 186 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,920 There was something went wrong. I don't know if it was a legal 187 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,560 issue or an open investigation. And I shit you not, there was a 188 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,520 casket that was not lowered down into the ground yet. 189 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:16,360 Oh, OK. So was there. 190 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,600 The mound of dirt was there. The hole was there. 191 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,960 There was no people around protecting those. 192 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,160 People around, it was like that for about a week or two. 193 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,680 No, it was not. I I shit you not, this is 194 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,720 online. Did you open it? 195 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,560 Did you open it? No, no, this. 196 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,800 And I didn't, I didn't know about it because I never go in 197 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,240 this section until like I saw it and then it made sense. 198 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,560 So what was happening was I had a very angry spirit following me 199 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:48,520 around and it was yelling at me and cursing me out and I had no 200 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,000 idea why. And then I saw the the casket 201 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,880 and I saw that it wasn't lowered. 202 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,560 And I thought to myself, this is either a legal issue, open 203 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:00,040 investigation, or a malfunction in the equipment. 204 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,520 But you would think if it was a malfunction in the equipment 205 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,320 they would have had to fix the next day. 206 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,240 This was like this for about 2-3 days. 207 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Dude, you can't. I mean, wait a minute, hold on a 208 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,640 second. You're telling me they just left 209 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,280 the Do you think there was a body left? 210 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,480 The body. I I can't confirm that there was 211 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,360 a body in the. Casket, like they just left it 212 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,280 out. Like I don't know what we're 213 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,800 going to do it. He ain't going anywhere. 214 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,920 Let's just leave it out. Yeah, it was the IT was the 215 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,520 craziest thing. And then the second the casket 216 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,920 was buried and covered up, it stopped. 217 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,160 So they took a couple of days for them to do it. 218 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,080 So I don't know if there was ever even a body in there. 219 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,640 I didn't check. I wasn't going to go near it. 220 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Well, I don't want to also, you know, mess something up and then 221 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,400 I lose my privileges there. I know, but I mean dude, hell, 222 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,000 that must have been real hard to not take a little sneak peek. 223 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,320 Oh it was dude. Even when I turned off the. 224 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,600 Camera, yeah. Like I, I, I stood there, I 225 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,080 packed up, put everything away, put my book bag on and literally 226 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,080 turned around and faced the direction of where that casket 227 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 was and was like, do I want to go check this out? 228 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,840 And I don't know what, let me not let me not just in case 229 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,000 there's a cop somewhere or you know, or who knows, maybe the 230 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 family set up a a trail Cam, who knows? 231 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,600 I don't know. I didn't know what the situation 232 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,160 was so. I was like. 233 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Let me let me use my brain and just, you know, body in there or 234 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,440 not, let me walk away. Be a good prank show bit right? 235 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,080 Imagine just seeing like. Set up and they were waiting for 236 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,320 me to go to it. Let's see if someone actually 237 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,280 would do it. He had that happen to me once I 238 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,120 had AI had a dude years ago who was running like a, a YouTube 239 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,040 channel and I didn't know this. And he calls me up and he's 240 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,280 like, hey, man, He was like, do you think one Sunday you could 241 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,960 come work with with me and this company? 242 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,880 We're going to be installing these signs and I know you're 243 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,040 handy and we need an extra hand. We'll pay you well. 244 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,560 And you know, I was a single father at the time too. 245 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,480 And that Sunday came and I had to call him up and I'm like, 246 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,640 hey, man, listen, I can't find a sitter on Sunday. 247 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,840 I'm sorry. I wish I could help you. 248 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,400 And he got all pissed off. Years later, I found out it was 249 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,240 a whole YouTube bit and they were going to try to scare me 250 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,720 and do this whole like, you know, like planned out Frank. 251 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,280 And I said, it's good you didn't do that because I would have 252 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,680 kicked the shit out of somebody. Like I'm not, I don't get 253 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:25,720 scared. I would, I would have, you know, 254 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,720 done whatever it would have been bad. 255 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Like that would have been really, really bad. 256 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,840 It's fun to see those on YouTube when they go wrong. 257 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,440 I've done a lot of hidden camera shows, you know, years ago. 258 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,480 And it's like, you know, they're, they're, they're pretty 259 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,400 funny when they, when you get good reactions, you know, but 260 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,240 sometimes, you know, people come in and they don't. 261 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,800 The secret when you produce the hidden camera show you like you, 262 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,560 you create a bit that you can burn people through, right? 263 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:54,120 Because it's expensive. You can't like play a prank on 264 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,320 one person because if you play a prank on one person, they walk 265 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,920 in, they have a spot like that's a camera, that's a camera. 266 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,560 Then there goes your whole bit. So you create the scene where 267 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:07,080 you can run through, you know, 20 people and you hope to get a 268 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,760 handful of great reactions. You know, like that's the whole 269 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,800 idea behind those shows for the most part, scare tactics even 270 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,760 they used to do it like that too, but they would get a couple 271 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,200 people through the same bit, you know, nominated through it to 272 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,560 burn through it. All right, So look, when you're 273 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,600 talking about for your part, mostly right, when you're saying 274 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,760 like this sort of connection with a spirit, a lot your your 275 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,320 interactions with them seem to be mainly like an interviewer, 276 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,960 right? You know, like you ask 277 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,480 questions, you do this. Have you, have you ever had a 278 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,560 situation where it's gotten, but I guess it's always been very 279 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 surface oriented, you know what I'm saying? 280 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Like there's never been a deeper, has there ever been a 281 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,800 deeper connection with the with the Spirit? 282 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Yeah. So how do you? 283 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,680 Yeah, go. So tell me. 284 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,520 About So I, I, yeah, so I, I, I, I have levels to this right like 285 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,080 I'm going to we're going to talk about a most recent video was 286 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,560 the spirit with Edwin that, you know, didn't remember that he 287 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,240 had he didn't remember his wife's name, but he brought up 288 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,800 that he had two wives, which I missed in the initial video 289 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,280 caught it afterwards in the replay, he brought up his son 290 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,360 James. You know these are getting these 291 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,520 are the interviews. These are the questions, right. 292 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,920 The next time I stumble, I look for Edwin. 293 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,160 Last night I couldn't find him. I couldn't remember where his 294 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,520 headstone is. But I'll, I'll end up finding it 295 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,360 soon, right? So the next time happens, I have 296 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,760 an opportunity now that I know Edwin's strong enough to do a 297 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,200 deeper dive into into him and to what he's about. 298 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,760 And you know, you know what he did when he was alive and, you 299 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,560 know, find out more information about him, maybe even start 300 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,200 building up a friendship where this has happened. 301 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,640 Well, it's happened on 2 levels, not just friendship wise. 302 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,560 It's happened on nemesis wise as well. 303 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,160 You know Edward is a prime example of that. 304 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Like Edward, he's like, right, He's your adversary in a weird. 305 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Right, like Edward is a prime and I hate to say it but I have 306 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,920 to say cuz you gotta give credit where credit is due. 307 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,800 Edward is one of the strongest spirits that anybody will ever 308 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,360 have the pleasure of listening to. 309 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,640 It really is. He's he's a super strong spirit, 310 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,600 highly intelligent, knows what's going around, adapts the 311 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,320 situations. He's just all he's there, you 312 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,600 know, and then I've had others though that were good, like 313 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,400 Joseph T June and Joseph Churchwell and Elmer and Anne 314 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,160 Purdy and like all these other spirits that are, it goes, we go 315 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,480 deeper. Our relationship gets, gets, 316 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,560 gets, you know, deeper and, you know, things start to develop. 317 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Like another prime example is Bruce in Virginia 2 spirits that 318 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,080 I've been speaking to husband and wife that I've been speaking 319 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,040 to for years. Bruce in Virginia, we had a 320 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,760 great relationship until Virginia starts hitting on me. 321 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,680 Her husband's there. Like I know her husband is, is, 322 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,280 is hearing me as well. It's a very awkward situation. 323 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,280 And you could go back and watch some of my videos, my 324 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,440 interactions with them, and you're just like, like, this is 325 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,640 nuts. Like you could see like, and 326 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,480 people who've been watching me for years saw this develop over 327 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,599 time, you know? How far do you push it and when 328 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:32,640 do you stop? All right, so I stopped once I 329 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,720 realized that the communication is dwindling. 330 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,240 That means either two things, either the spirit is losing its 331 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,960 purchase on this reality, whatever that purchase is, 332 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,360 losing energy, losing however frequency, whatever you want to 333 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,880 call it, whatever's going on, something is happening that's 334 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,000 making the spirit come through less and less or not at all. 335 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,080 You know, that's when I usually stop and I do a hard reset. 336 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,480 I I'll push it until I can't push it anymore. 337 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:07,240 But but I'm smart with it, as in I keep my time limited. 338 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:11,520 So like, if I'm talking like this, like the conversation with 339 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,840 Edwin, I stopped that conversation. 340 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,920 I realized, oh shit, this went on for over 5 minutes. 341 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,080 I got to stop this now, just in case he's burning through 342 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,720 something unknown that's allowing him to speak to me this 343 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,920 way. Is that when you get? 344 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:34,760 But it also sounds like too with some of them, you care and 345 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,120 you're letting out an emotion with that. 346 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,640 You'll get definitely, definitely. 347 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:49,320 And is that risky, do you think? As long as I care enough, I'm 348 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,960 caring more about the documentation than I am the 349 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,400 actual spirit. You know, in the back of my 350 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,240 mind, it's all about the documentation. 351 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,920 So the, the, the, the feelings that I care about and it's 352 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,040 heartless. It is for me to say I'm open and 353 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,640 honest with my audience about it too. 354 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,000 Even with the children's spirits, it's about the 355 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 documentation. At the end of the day, there's 356 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:17,320 no, you know, there's no, I'm not going to sully or sacrifice 357 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,800 the documentation for the spirit sake. 358 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,720 That's not what I'm here to do. I never have claimed to be 359 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,240 anything or, you know, to help spirits. 360 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,400 A spirit psychologist, You know, something to help spirits feel 361 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,680 better about themselves, No. If I come across the spirit that 362 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,640 feels good about themselves or we excellent. 363 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,640 If I come across the spirit that's horrible and feels bad 364 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,560 about themselves or we excellent, Let's document it. 365 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,760 But you can see like even your audience, right? 366 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,920 Like they get you can see how a person could almost attach the 367 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,880 other way. Like, I mean, I'm reading your 368 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,560 the chat here, right? Cast Mr. Churchwell's story is a 369 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,720 heartbreaker. He's so nice, you know what I 370 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,520 mean? Like she's she's saying, so 371 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,800 she's like all in on this story, right? 372 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,120 And she buys into, you know, so she's in, she's sort of getting 373 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:15,040 involved, you know what I mean, in that story. 374 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,040 Kathy's in the chat. Kathy's in the chat too. 375 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,880 Hey, listen everybody do me a favor if you have not followed, 376 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,560 especially on Instagram, she's got a huge following on 377 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Instagram. Go on Instagram, do Kathy Nadala 378 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,440 follow. She is awesome. 379 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,800 She was one of our first guests here on Splinter Spirits when we 380 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,320 start diving into medium shift, definitely ever a follow. 381 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,160 She's phenomenal. She's also on TikTok now and 382 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,200 she's got a bunch of other things in the work so. 383 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,880 Get yourself a reading at Dream Central Station dot com. 384 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,760 Get yourself a reading. It is. 385 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:55,200 And Kathy is one of the very few in the scheme of things who has 386 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,720 been certified by the Forever Family Foundation. 387 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,000 If you guys listen to this week's episode, I wanted to meet 388 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,640 with him. Just we'll digress for a second 389 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,120 here. Talk about this mediumship stuff 390 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:09,080 because again, I wanted to speak to this guy Bob Ginsberg about 391 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,720 it because what they they, you know, talk about skeptical. 392 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:20,480 They are very tough on the idea of what mediums are and but 393 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:26,680 yeah, and it's and they have a a real hard line of how they go 394 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,960 about testing people and eventually certified them. 395 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,080 And most of the mediums guys that you know of that are famous 396 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,400 on TV, like the Long Island medium, he was certified, you 397 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960 know, like, and then they go on after certification. 398 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,360 A lot of these people then they go on and do private practice 399 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,480 when they're when they work for the Forever Family Foundation 400 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,720 that is not-for-profit. They don't get paid to help 401 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,480 grieving families out. But so afterwards they go on and 402 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,680 do their own thing. Kathy is one of those people. 403 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,440 She is legit, you know, of it's all she is. 404 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,560 And to this organization, they believe and she passed their 405 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,120 test. And she kind of, she has a 406 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:11,400 connection, you know, to spirit, which is wild. 407 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,000 Yeah, so Kathy did ask a question. 408 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:20,640 She asked, you know, she would like me to talk about how I 409 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,120 protect myself before and after leaving a cemetery and how I 410 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:27,880 open and close myself. That actually falls into intent. 411 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,840 It's it's it's literally all about intent for me. 412 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,160 And certain places I go to, and I speak about this all the time, 413 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,680 like if I go to buck out, for example, or I'm in the abandoned 414 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,440 side of the undisclosed location, what I do to, I guess 415 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:52,320 people would call it to cleanse myself is put myself in a more 416 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,320 positive situation. So like, for example, if I go to 417 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,880 buck out at night, most of the time during the day, there's a 418 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,920 chance I'm going to be at the Ocean View Cemetery, which has 419 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,240 got the best, you know, resting place of view for, you know, 420 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,320 anybody could ever have. It's a very peaceful, serene 421 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,520 place, but it's mainly intent. It's actually mainly intent. 422 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,680 It's just that that unwavering, you know, intent. 423 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,720 But going back, because we're jumping around a little bit, 424 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,160 going back to Churchwell, there are exceptions where Mr. 425 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,920 Churchwell, his story was tragic, right? 426 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:36,200 He was a Civil War soldier. He was 19 when he died from his 427 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,880 wounds from the Battle of the Wilderness, which was considered 428 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,200 the most horrific battle of the Civil War. 429 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:48,120 It was a, it was a bad one. And when I come across spirits 430 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:51,520 like that, I, I also got like, you know, I say it all the time, 431 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,000 you know, that's a man right there. 432 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,280 That's a man that will be. Yeah. 433 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,640 So what I have, you know, 20 years as a volunteer 434 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,000 firefighter, you know, whatever, that's a man, you know what I'm 435 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,760 saying? Like it's like, that's a, that's 436 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,760 a even more than just a man. That's a human being that you 437 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,360 know, I don't know the way, way better than ever I could be. 438 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,360 Well, you know, it's so look, it is an interesting topic about 439 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,520 where you draw that line. And I was reading and I want you 440 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,400 to pull this up. Dude. 441 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,880 I, I was, I've been really looking into this idea because 442 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,040 we talk about spirit communication, but there clearly 443 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,360 is bonds or attachments that are made. 444 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,200 And check out the New York Post. Bro, pull up the New York Post. 445 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,200 I don't know why the New York Post is an authority, a 446 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,600 paranormal if they are, but they write articles about it. 447 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480 But pull up, I still can't. I still can't believe that this 448 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,440 is in the New York Post. But read OK, tell everybody what 449 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,240 it is and then. OK, Yeah, So. 450 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,120 And when was it? When was when did this drop? 451 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:01,760 I was. Just going to read the headline. 452 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,200 Are you ready and when did this drop? 453 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,840 What's the date of this? It's not that long ago. 454 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600 It's not that old. May 9th, 2025 S just dropped to 455 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,080 May 9th this year. Yeah. 456 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,840 This is May 9th of this year. The New York. 457 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,360 Post article is as follows. I had a threesome with my 458 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:22,440 bisexual woman and my dead husband's ghost. 459 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:34,160 He finally got his happy ending. OK, yeah, it finally happened. 460 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,360 That's the 2 girls, 2 girls, 1 ghost by the way. 461 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,200 Yeah, 53 years old now. I want to touch on this before 462 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,760 we dive in even even more. To this I cannot tell you. 463 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,680 Have you ever heard me? Have you ever heard me say the 464 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,320 phrase spiritual rizz? Yes I have. 465 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,880 I have. I have tons of videos on spirits 466 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,880 hitting on me, both male and female. 467 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,960 OK OK sure. I think it's. 468 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,920 Hilarious. You're a Big Bear, dude. 469 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240 Even though it's even though it's like, gay spirits must 470 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,680 really dig it. Yeah, although it's. 471 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,680 Like the other thing I actually love coming across the gay 472 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,960 spirits. They're one of There's some I. 473 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,800 Wonder if it's like? Because what an honor think 474 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,120 about it like this. What an honor it is to have a 475 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:26,920 man who had to stay in the closet because of the times he 476 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,600 was in and now that he could finally come out and be like, 477 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,880 hey, I like men. I think you're attractive of all 478 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,840 the people, he says. It's amazing. 479 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,760 I know it's great. I think it's great. 480 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,440 I also wonder, I also wonder though, if like you know, is 481 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,400 there any sort of, is it sexually fluid afterlife it has? 482 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,840 To be you. Know what I'm saying? 483 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Like, who care? You know, it's like, is there 484 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,520 such a thing as you know? It's just the one big orgy of 485 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,080 ghosts. It has to be and I also. 486 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,360 The greatest party ever? I also, yeah, right. 487 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,760 I also feel that spirits feed off sexual energy all the time. 488 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,880 All the time. And, and and and we see a lot of 489 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,840 this at the cottage. Right, So all right, now go back 490 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,400 to this article. Let's go back to this article 491 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,640 real quick, OK? Because this is a woman who I 492 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,480 think when I read it, I want you to read to our to our, to our 493 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,960 crowd here. Or you can jump around. 494 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,160 But it's like, maybe the relationship went a bit too far. 495 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:37,200 But let's see, one second, another, another spirit is being 496 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,360 made. Didn't make a difference. 497 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,280 I was going to try to block it out this time, but. 498 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:46,160 Another spirit's being made every time a siren rings. 499 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,120 Another one's being made. Another spirit gets it's. 500 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,320 So, All right, so what's interesting, this is from 501 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,920 Manchester. This is from England. 502 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,360 OK, this story. They're wild over there. 503 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,760 She identifies as a bisexual. She claimed her husband, Andy, 504 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,760 dreamed about having threesomes. Fantasized about it, they joked. 505 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,080 She said it would be a treat on his 60th birthday. 60th Playboy. 506 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,120 Unfortunately, he died from COVID in 2020. 507 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Oops. And they never got to do it. 508 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,840 And then what's it called? Let's see here. 509 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,280 All right. They were about to do it, too. 510 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,920 They had the whole thing planned out. 511 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,400 They were going. To get isn't it weird because he 512 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,200 was probably, he's probably old. Sorry. 513 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,000 Do you ever see any documentaries on swingers or any 514 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,640 of this thing? Do you ever see these things? 515 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720 They're always old, dude. It's almost like they hit a 516 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,120 certain age and we're like, we're going crazy. 517 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 It's never like smoking hot swingers. 518 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,360 It's like old people swingers. It's like they're less like it's 519 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,760 we've done it all now we're old now. 520 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,560 We're going to really shake things up now. 521 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,720 We're going to. Yeah, but go ahead. 522 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520 So now. So she was going to, she's 523 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,320 finally she had it down. But then he died from COVID. 524 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,600 Yep. So hold on, I'm a fast reader, 525 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,480 so I'm just going to let me give you the synopsis. 526 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Let's see here. Does talk about where she's like 527 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,560 felt his presence or something? Wow. 528 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,080 Yeah, yeah. So what they did is they got a 529 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:29,440 picture of the man, OK? And yeah, yeah, yeah. 530 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,840 During the romp, Wake said she felt the widowmaker's presence 531 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120 and said that he absolutely supported her getting back in 532 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,480 the sack with a woman. Oh, wait a minute. 533 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,960 OK, so this, this, this was more of a cuckold situation than it 534 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,080 was an actual threesome. He was in. 535 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,240 He was in the room watching. They just said that he felt his 536 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,760 presence rather than it's a little bit of a click bait 537 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,520 article, Put that against the New York. 538 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,520 New York. Yeah. 539 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,760 So, you know, it was more like a cuckold situation. 540 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000 He was there in spirit. She said. 541 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,040 They both. Literally. 542 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,440 And then they felt his presence and they probably put his 543 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,520 picture in a chair so he could watch the two chicks make out. 544 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,360 That's his bag. That was me personally. 545 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Me personally, if I was her, I would have got some of his 546 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,600 ashes, had a dildo casted out of it and yeah. 547 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Right. Made a party out here, it's a 548 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,000 different kind of party. For sure happened, you know. 549 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,960 Yeah, right. It's really interesting. 550 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,040 So it's OK. So she's in her mind, though she 551 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,640 said she really felt him there. Yes. 552 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Yeah. So she invited him in. 553 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,960 Yeah, right to do. It and if they both felt the the 554 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,520 husband there, the dead husband there, he could have been 555 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,160 feeding off that energy. Sure, there's a word for this. 556 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,960 I looked it up and there's actually a word for it. 557 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,560 It's called spectrophilia. Yeah. 558 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:08,360 People who are some, you know, sexually attracted to spirits, 559 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,200 ghosts and spirits. It's a thing, guys, it's a real 560 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,520 thing. Yes, it is. 561 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,640 And it really comes down to I believe so I guess people will 562 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,200 just fuck anything. A. 100 percent, 100%. 563 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,440 I got, I got a buddy who runs, I got a buddy who runs an ER out 564 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,640 here and he owns a lot of the urgent cares. 565 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,880 One of the other parents in my kids school doctor. 566 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,040 And it's just like, you know, basically throughout his career 567 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,120 as an ER, you know, the head of an ER, there really isn't any 568 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,560 object he hasn't pulled out of someone's ass. 569 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Like you can anything you can name, he's pulled it out of 570 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,800 somebody's ass. I mean, it's just like, it's 571 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,080 really great. Like, you know, from the light 572 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,560 bulbs, toys, forget it. Hot Wheels. 573 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Hot Wheels have been a more asshole. 574 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Yep. Fit on race tracks, Yep. 575 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760 But it's insane. It's insane dude. 576 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,360 They're leading the way, you know? 577 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,360 They're leading the but it's like, so all right, so this 578 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:11,800 woman clearly had, you know, wanted her husband back, brought 579 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,520 it back. It's a really interesting thing 580 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,240 when you talk about letting yourself be an open to 581 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,680 communicating, but closing yourself off for safety, right, 582 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,760 Or letting yourself open for beyond that, beyond 583 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,120 communicating in some cases and then closing yourself off for 584 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,920 safety, like when can you, if you can close it, you're. 585 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Going to you're going to find this very interesting in the 586 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,840 early in the early Shabba days, going back to the fireplace 587 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,200 room, OK, when I'd sit in the fireplace room and we'd Shabba, 588 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,800 I would especially in the summer, start bleeding because 589 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560 of my skin. And a lot of times when the 590 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,600 spirits would be like, you know, oh, yo, we want blood this, that 591 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,080 and the other. I would literally start throwing 592 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:06,800 my blood at the fireplace. And there's videos you could get 593 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,920 low down, you know, on my TikTok of the spirits responding to it, 594 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040 like actually like, you know, responding to what I am doing. 595 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,880 Responding to blood, you're saying? 596 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,200 Yeah, yeah, like so go with that. 597 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,480 And the reason why I'm bringing this up is it it going back to 598 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,040 like the openness of it. When I when I shabba, obviously 599 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,600 I get loose and that whole you know, when I when the spirits 600 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,120 like I want blood and I'm like, I'm not giving you blood spirit 601 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,160 get some shabba in me and that goes 5050. 602 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,880 You know, I'll be like, yeah, maybe, you know, and it's, it's 603 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,160 really interesting to think about. 604 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,240 Why do you. Call it shabba. 605 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Is it because it's because Tic Tac doesn't allow you to say 606 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,120 tequila or something? Yes. 607 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,760 Listen. Yes, so we call it Shabba and 608 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,840 and and it's it's, it's rooted. It's rooted from battling the 609 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,880 sweet kings, from somebody lying to me in the chat telling them 610 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,240 the that spirits means Shabba ha. 611 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,800 But in reality, Shabba ha's like blow them up or something like 612 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,880 that. So you can understand, you know, 613 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,000 white dude from the states on live with somebody from the 614 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,040 Middle East yelling Shah Baha. It's not, it's it's yeah. 615 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,440 So once I found out what the actual word meant, the actual 616 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,080 word in Arabic for spirit is Shah Bah. 617 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:32,800 Oh. Interesting. 618 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,239 Now we call. That's why we call that that I. 619 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,520 Don't look at that. That was an interesting little. 620 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,360 Now we know that's like a big after school special. 621 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,880 Now we know why it's called. It's All. 622 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,840 Words that mean other things and, you know. 623 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239 Sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 624 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,400 But opening yourself up, it's a, it's a big thing, you know? 625 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,840 Crypto billing, thank you for watching. 626 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,480 We hope you're following. It is a fine line and it's like 627 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,400 you look, you know, we're going to have guys, we have a guest 628 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,720 coming on in a couple weeks on the live that's going to talk to 629 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:08,080 us a little bit more detail about spiritual relationships 630 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,520 and what that means and the education behind it and how she 631 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,360 protected herself, you know, really. 632 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,480 And it's going to be wild. It's a great story as we dive 633 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,560 deeper into all this. There's a lot and listen, when 634 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:31,360 it comes to the world and sex and spirits, there is a lot of 635 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,720 of opinions, circumstances, data. 636 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:41,080 I mean, just it's insane. Like the things that happened 637 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:45,440 and going back to that case from the New York Post, we don't 638 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560 know. There's no way to prove 639 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,280 obviously, of course, that was in the room. 640 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,280 However, if it helps with her grieving, by all means go for 641 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,840 it. And there's a possibility that 642 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,280 he was that and he enjoyed. It Oh yeah. 643 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,000 It's like, like if we're going to here's the thing, if if we're 644 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,880 going to start going down the road, we don't know if this is a 645 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080 real, but I mean, we'll just never get anywhere. 646 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,040 I think the idea is like, it's more fun to just like, OK, let's 647 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,600 just this, let's start from a place of this is real. 648 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,240 Yes. Let's start from a place of 649 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,120 believability and then work backwards. 650 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,880 Yeah. And then and then work backwards 651 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,120 because otherwise what's the fun and just being like, you know, 652 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,360 Oh, yeah. That's not he wasn't there. 653 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,200 She's crazy or whatever it is. Yeah, Exactly. 654 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,720 All right, I get it. I know that side of it. 655 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:45,640 It's more fun to theorize about. Well, if it is real, then how is 656 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,200 it real as opposed to how is it not real? 657 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040 So how is it not real? Theory is simple. 658 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,880 I get it. It's not interesting. 659 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,120 Not interesting to me. What happens like with dead 660 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,280 significant others? So let's say you know you're, 661 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,960 you're in your you know you're in your 40s, your wife passes 662 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440 away. OK, you remarry. 663 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,760 Does that mean your dead wife is watching you with another woman 664 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,640 now? I don't know, dude. 665 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:17,240 Vice versa or vice versa and? Then what's that headache like 666 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:18,880 in the afterlife, if there is one? 667 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,960 Yeah, right. It's like, yeah. 668 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,480 And then what happens when you die? 669 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,040 And if you do reunite with, you know, the said past loved one, 670 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,560 right? And your, your current wife, 671 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840 she's not dead yet. So you reunite with that one and 672 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,880 then all of a sudden she passes away. 673 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,360 Yeah. Is it just a threesome for the 674 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,400 rest of eternity? Yeah. 675 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,200 I don't know. Yeah, right. 676 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640 I mean, This is why it's all so, dude, right? 677 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,760 If you die first, it's like, well, great. 678 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,440 It's like, you know what I mean? It's like if they find love 679 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,120 again. If you die first and they find 680 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,600 love again, are you stuck in the afterlife for sort of alone 681 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,800 forever? Yeah. 682 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,720 Or do you get to like you know, or, or is it hopefully just one 683 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:04,520 big, you know, orgy up there or down there or right here or 684 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,680 where? Imagine there's a line. 685 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,720 There's a line for singles or wannabe singles, you know. 686 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,120 I know, right? It's like, oh, you lost it. 687 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:12,680 Are you first? Are you a first? 688 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,840 Dog. Yep. 689 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,760 Oh, Mr. Johnson, it looks like your wife's remarried. 690 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,360 Come on down. You know, Yep. 691 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,800 It's like he's like, yeah, he's like, dude, am I stuck? 692 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,240 It's like, she hadn't remarried yet. 693 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:27,960 I told her that she should move on. 694 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,680 And it's like, and Johnson's like, he's like, she's very mad 695 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,640 guy. And he like, he like, takes his 696 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,360 ghostly ring off and he's like, let's go, let's fucking go. 697 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,560 And he's out there just, like banging ghosts because now he's 698 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,520 free. But then, then she dies first of 699 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,720 her new marriage. So she winds up there and Mr. 700 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:53,160 Johnson's like, babe, I've kind of been dating all these other 701 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,120 and she's like, well, I thought you were waiting for me, like, 702 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,640 well, I guess that spiritual contract. 703 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,360 Well, it is still depth do you part. 704 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,920 I think once you die, you're single, right? 705 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,200 You're just automatically single even in the afterlife. 706 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,480 Yeah, that's what, that's what. If you buy into that, right, If 707 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,480 you buy into all that. Well, yeah, because that's like 708 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,200 what? That's like word, word craft, 709 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:14,600 you know, that's. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. 710 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,120 You know what I mean? Like an oath, you know? 711 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,480 Yeah, like you know the. Doctors take a hip. 712 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,680 It's a Hippocratic Oath is what the doctors. 713 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,000 Say. Like the same thing. 714 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,080 Like, you know, a lot of people get confused too. 715 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,960 They think that like a a priest or an offician or a rabbi is 716 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,080 marrying the people. No, it's, it's they marry the 717 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,320 people marry each other in every circumstance. 718 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,240 You know, it's, it's a contract between the two people. 719 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,600 So interesting. You know, it's interesting to 720 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,520 think about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 721 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,680 Sort of like, you know? He's got to be completely 722 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,360 single. So it's like it's almost like 723 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,760 he's the crazy ex. If he's if your ex dies first or 724 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,040 if your significant other dies 1st and they haunt you, then 725 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,200 they're like the crazy ex who can't move on. 726 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,160 It's like, look, dude, it's kind of over, right? 727 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,960 I mean, we had a deal until death do his part death. 728 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,560 You know what? I mean fire your ticket, got 729 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,360 punched early but. Right. 730 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,120 Kathy's telling us death to death to his part is based on 731 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,400 religion in in her opinion, right. 732 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,200 So it's a like death to you part is a religious sort of add on to 733 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,040 the marriage oath, Yeah. According to, you know, yeah, 734 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,200 like you would think most churches, that's what you hear, 735 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,760 right? That to you part, it's like the 736 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,800 most common, right? But let's just roll with it, 737 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,880 even if it's I guess if I guess, do they say that? 738 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,880 I don't know. Is that a vow that is offered 739 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,560 when you get married by the state? 740 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,160 I think it is. I think, you know what, I could 741 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,600 look that up real quick, but I think it is. 742 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,240 But I think you can also change that too. 743 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,880 Right. I'm not sure. 744 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,520 Let me. But let's just roll with it. 745 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,000 Let's just say it's dead. But either way, right, Either 746 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,440 way, with religious or non religious, if you get married 747 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,720 and you say that, then you've made in your contract with this 748 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,360 other person until death do us part like this contract is good 749 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,840 until death, right? No matter what, what religion or 750 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,120 what, if you've said it to each other and that's what you agreed 751 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,960 to, that's your deal. So now your significant other is 752 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,760 dead and they stick. And if they stick around and 753 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,640 haunt you, they're kind of like a crazy accident. 754 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,960 She'd be like, hey, man, the deal's off like we broke, you 755 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,120 know, you know, it's over, right? 756 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,000 Like you went and died for whatever reason, even if we were 757 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,360 taken or whatever, but it's over now. 758 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,840 I'm single, right? It's like there goes the ring, 759 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,640 you know I can do my thing like why don't you get out there, 760 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,160 start dating, go on some ghost Tinder and start pulling ass and 761 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,120 leave me alone right? Like I don't know what to say, 762 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,800 you know, I guess right. I don't know what the. 763 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,280 What was so what's interesting like from it like a data 764 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,640 perspective, like if I get serious about it for a minute, 765 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,680 I've come across situations where husband and wife's are 766 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,720 together even in the afterlife. Bruce in Virginia, Herbert and 767 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:07,480 Anna, well, they're together and then other ones where they're 768 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,680 not, where they actually don't like each other. 769 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,200 Like funny enough, I had a Joseph and Mary that, you know, 770 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,040 Joseph was a complete a hole. He not only was an A hole to his 771 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,840 wife in life, but also in death and she wanted nothing to do 772 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,800 with him. I to this day when I approach 773 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,160 his headstone, he starts shit with me and I talk shit back to 774 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,960 him about how I made his wife leave him. 775 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,320 It's, it's really funny and you know, it's. 776 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,840 It's you're finally convinced her. 777 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,640 You're finally convinced her to move on. 778 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,400 And then, for example, like Anne Purdy, the dad I have with her 779 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,360 and her husband, is that, you know, they don't get along very 780 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,080 well. Yeah. 781 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,240 So it's really interesting. Like some stick together and 782 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,200 actually are together. Like when I speak to them, I'm 783 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,360 speaking to the both of them. And. 784 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,320 Well, here's a thing. Well, here's an interesting 785 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,600 thing, right? When you're talking about the 786 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,880 sticking together, let's go with your theory of what spirits are 787 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,320 for a second memory, right? So the memory of them. 788 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,760 Together. Right. 789 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,160 Is it, is it a sort of a fused memory or you know what I mean? 790 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:24,120 Or is it a, what are you actually talking to versus are 791 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,800 these the 2 spirit? Are these two separate spirits? 792 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,240 Do you know what I mean? Like, right? 793 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:37,280 Is it like you get couples because a couple has had a life 794 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,280 together, you know, right. So they've got a lot of memories 795 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,760 together. That's a lot of energy together. 796 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:48,960 And, and what's crazy is if memories of a husband and wife 797 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,440 find each other, if they gravitate and they stay because 798 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,440 it's the same, almost the same memories, even though it's two 799 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,800 different perspectives. Like, you know, the day you go 800 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,040 to the supermarket and somebody slips and falls at the 801 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,200 supermarket and you step out into your into the parking lot 802 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,080 after you're done and you see a car accident at the light. 803 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,880 And then you go back to the house and you watch a really 804 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,440 good movie and you have a really good time. 805 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,960 You remember that whole day. You know, if those two memories 806 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,360 sink, that could be a possibility of why that happens. 807 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,520 So it's not even that they don't like each other or dislike each 808 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,520 other, it's the memory that I'm speaking to at the time. 809 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,400 Right. No. 810 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,200 Right. Huge possibility. 811 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,400 Right, that's interesting. Yeah, brilliant. 812 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,480 That gets weird. Because there are, there are 813 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,320 combos. There are husband and wife 814 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:47,440 combos, Bruce and Joanna and then Herbert, but Hans and Hans 815 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080 and Hans and Joanna. I said Bruce and Virginia. 816 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,760 I meant Hans and Joanna. I'm trying to think of others. 817 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,360 There's there's a, there's a couple of them, you know, it's 818 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,520 not like, so it's pretty crazy to think about like are they 819 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,240 intertwined memories? Are they the same, you know, and 820 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,480 are they becoming the same spirit because of it? 821 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,920 Because we don't know how it works. 822 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,160 I wonder, have you ever spoken to? 823 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:20,160 Have you ever gotten or heard a spirit of someone living? 824 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,680 No like, so you know what I mean, right? 825 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,480 Remember how you know the Lloyd story of the haunting? 826 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,000 The imprint though, right? Like people left the imprint. 827 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,360 They were still alive, but their energy left the imprint of of 828 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:40,840 them banging it out in that White House. 11 instance during 829 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,000 my community party. I I had a party back in October 830 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,840 and I had a bunch of people come. 831 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:55,200 We had after the party, a couple of us went to you know, other 832 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,520 places and what not. And like the the following day I 833 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,200 took a bunch of people up to Letchworth and we went to the 834 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,720 cemetery and the wife of one of the the dudes that came to the 835 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:12,560 party took a picture in this one general spot. 836 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:19,320 OK now the crazy thing is they call a full blown apparition in 837 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,480 the picture. The problem is the full blown 838 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:30,240 apparition was one of my mods. And what's crazy is that mod did 839 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:34,600 not leave my side. So he was on the right of me. 840 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,040 They took the picture on the left. 841 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,880 He never ever, ever moved from that spot. 842 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640 He never walked in front that way, nothing. 843 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,120 He stayed two people down in this spot. 844 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,640 And then she takes a picture and all of a sudden there he is, a 845 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,480 transparent version of himself. So I'm trying to figure out how 846 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,520 the hell a double exposure would happen when there's. 847 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,120 No movement. I'd be surprised. 848 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,040 I'd be curious dude. I wonder like I don't know how 849 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,320 we test this. Like if some of these because 850 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,880 most of the grades you're dealing with are very old. 851 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,160 So probably those people are also passed by now, but right, 852 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,120 So it's like it would be very odd if you're talking to a 853 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,560 Revolutionary War per couple and that's the wife is still alive 854 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,840 somewhere. You'd have to be talking to 855 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,240 somebody recently passed and maybe there are other, their 856 00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:29,720 significant other is is there. Yeah, yeah. 857 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,880 I mean, listen, it's it's interesting, but when it comes 858 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,360 down to it, I've never spoken to anybody that is alive. 859 00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:44,360 I never have. M Hope is really like, look at 860 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,440 this, what she wrote here. She's saying, I hope my dad 861 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,240 remembers. I hope my my dad remembers my 862 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:54,240 mom and shoot her out. Just saying. 863 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,840 Interesting. I mean, that's a little dirty. 864 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,080 M Hope. You know, I'm sure that I'm 865 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,680 sure. Yeah, I'm sure He's thinking 866 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,360 about it. Even in the afterlife. 867 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,040 Good for him. He's a giver, you know, that's a 868 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,920 that's a different kind of possession though, you know, 869 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,120 like the one guy that I was, you know, the famous story, the 870 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:19,040 entity story, which is depending anybody, you know, some of our 871 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,360 older crowd may remember it, but I'm working with the guy who 872 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,520 that was from his case files from back in this late in the 873 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,800 70s, a woman in LA was she thought she was being sexually 874 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,160 assaulted by a ghost. And it's a famous case and they 875 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,520 made a movie about it called The Entity back in the early 80s. 876 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,440 And it was a book about it based on the UCLA case file. 877 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,800 You know, that's a different that seems like a very Now we've 878 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,280 crossed the line where Spirit did not respect the consent that 879 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,720 we've been talking about to keep them from being attached. 880 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,760 Well, that's the thing. Not everybody can turn around 881 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,520 and be like, you do not have the right to touch me. 882 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960 You will not touch me. Not everybody can do that 883 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,400 because they don't say it with conviction. 884 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,360 They don't mean it. They're scared. 885 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,360 There's fear, there's emotions involved, which were human. 886 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,080 It makes sense. You know, like that's just the 887 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,200 the way it is with me. I have a short fuse and I think 888 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,880 that kind of helps me because I'm very like passionate about 889 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,280 it. Like, no. 890 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,240 You know, like. Just, but then you still got 891 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:31,160 pushed. I still got pushed and we lost 892 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,160 Gary, but that's OK. But Gary's 100% correct. 893 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,720 I still got pushed. Still. 894 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,880 There. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm here. 895 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,400 Sorry, I jumped. Off I still got pushed and and I 896 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,520 always say that my intent protects protects me from 897 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,880 getting attachments, possession and from being followed. 898 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,720 But the one thing I can't lock down is being physically 899 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,200 attacked when they have the energy, when they get the 900 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,760 frequency to do that, I, I will get attacked. 901 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,120 I there's nothing I can do about it. 902 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,200 I tried. There's so many situations where 903 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,480 I've tried like, yeah, you're not going to throw that brick at 904 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,320 me. You know, you're not going to do 905 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,520 this. You're not going to do that. 906 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,680 Doesn't make a difference. Doesn't make a difference. 907 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,920 When they want to get physical, they're going to get physical. 908 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,160 And that's the crazy thing. And I think it's because it's 909 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,120 more of a physical attack. The same way I can't stop Voxi 910 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,360 from hopping off the shelf and, you know, jumping on my head. 911 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,640 Sure, You know, if I don't know what's coming, how am I supposed 912 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,600 to stop it from happening, you know? 913 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,520 Yeah, I'd be very curious, like, you know, the this sort of 914 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,200 connection with spirit and where the line is is an interesting 915 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,040 topic to discuss, especially when we're talking about 916 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,280 communication, right and what it all is. 917 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,160 What do we have coming up next to you? 918 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,200 So we've got listen guys, if you haven't anybody on here who 919 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,600 might be just following, passing through, not speaking, I hope 920 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,760 you like and subscribe to Splinter Spirits. 921 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,880 We've got a big podcast. We've got many episodes and many 922 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,320 more to come. We've got some great ones on 923 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,840 deck. We just dropped one with, like I 924 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,800 said, with Bob Ginsburg, the founder of the Forever Family 925 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,080 Foundation, which sounds like a tongue twister, but it's not. 926 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,000 It's a real thing. And they are a quite an A really 927 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,800 interesting service that helps keep grieving people with the 928 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,840 use through the use of mediums and due to a tragedy of his own. 929 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,320 It's a really, it's a really wonderful story and it's an 930 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:45,360 interesting take on how he uses spirit communication to help 931 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,000 others, right, which is great. And the next one coming up, 932 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,440 which has been not this coming Tuesday, but the next following 933 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,120 Tuesday is with we're going to be doing a little bit of a 934 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,000 deeper dive into Sleepy Hollow. That's one of your favorite 935 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,920 haunts, John, as a living person. 936 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,600 And we have an author of that. We've got an author and a 937 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,880 clairvoyant who wrote a book about it and, and not just about 938 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,080 the Headless Horseman, but there's just some really 939 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,280 interesting takeaways to think about, You know, about the 940 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,280 Headless Horseman and that town in general in terms of group 941 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,400 manifestations, which is a really interesting, another not 942 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,920 quite poltergeist, but poltergeist ish. 943 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,720 You know the idea that the living are creating these myths 944 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:41,160 and these these spirits, right, or manifesting these spirits and 945 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,960 Agrigore, I think he called. It agrigore it was one of the. 946 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,120 Gores. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 947 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,000 Which is not Al Gore. You know, we're not CRF, we're 948 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,440 not scientists. We're just trying to. 949 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,920 Yeah, right. Right. 950 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,600 It's a yeah. In, in, in, in Agrigore, I 951 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,120 believe he called it. But we talk, we talk about. 952 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,400 It's really interesting. It's really, really wild. 953 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,640 It is really wild and just to get guys again, just to give 954 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,480 everybody a bit of perspective. Churchwell Cemetery is 25 955 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,360 minutes from Sleepy Hollow. So is the tunnels. 956 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:18,520 So is Milton the the pre war burial ground 20 minutes from 957 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,160 the marshlands. The new spot we go to 15 minutes 958 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:29,920 from the tower, OK from the tower and 5 minutes from the 959 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,800 cottage. You know, and only 8 minutes 960 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,320 from buck out just to give you an idea. 961 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,680 And driving without normal, you know, in normal traffic, just to 962 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,760 give you an idea of Sleepy Hollow and just how close it is 963 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,480 related to this whole area. I mean, look, there's really 964 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,480 very few places. I mean, Sleepy Hollow is one of 965 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,480 the it's like on every, it's on every top ten list of haunted 966 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,640 places in America, whether it's Route 9 or to go to buck out or 967 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,840 just Sleepy Hollow. You're like Westchester County 968 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,360 is just sort of a known hot spot for lower Westchester County, 969 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,920 man. It's not and it's just nuts. 970 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,760 It really is. It really is. 971 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:13,840 Westchester, yes, it's great. Listen, guys, I think that's I 972 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,440 think it's a it's a good hour. It's a good hour for today. 973 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,360 Thank you for tuning in for stopping by, guys. 974 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,040 Please follow Kathy Nadal, who's in the chat. 975 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,520 Go to dream Central Station. Get yourself a reading, treat 976 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,720 yourself. It'll be worth it. 977 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,240 I mean, it really is. It'll really be interesting. 978 00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,280 It's and I really. Kathy also has a really good 979 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,160 radio show too, doesn't she? Doesn't. 980 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,800 She. Yes, she does. 981 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,520 She does. She does. 982 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,680 She's actually a lot of rock stars. 983 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,240 Yeah, it's fun. Well. 984 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,160 'Cause she's a rock star herself. 985 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:42,840 I know it's crazy. It's fun. 986 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,400 I love it. I want to get the next time I 987 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,800 next time I get to New York to with Kathy, I'm going to do a 988 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,200 coffee reading. I'm going to film it. 989 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,880 I love the fact that she reads coffee, which is my favorite. 990 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,560 And it's like, so everyone's reading tea leaves. 991 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,920 We found the woman who reads coffee, which is great. 992 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:00,760 It's my favorite thing. But guys, thank you so much. 993 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,720 It's been splintered spirits. Go to wherever Splintered 994 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,240 Spirits podcast is followed. Like we would appreciate it. 995 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,480 Sign up for a mailing list. Oh, and ghost stories. 996 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,360 Tell your friends. Go to our website, 997 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,960 splinterspirits.com. Tell them to drop a ghost story 998 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,120 or two. We want to get more of those. 999 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,120 We want to talk about those. It all adds to the documentation 1000 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:29,240 and experiences of people who have communicated with ghosts or 1001 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,720 spirits as we try to get to the bottom of it. 1002 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:33,840 You know what I mean? Yeah, we want to, we want to 1003 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,360 hear about your personal experiences. 1004 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,040 We really do. You know, we love those well 1005 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,560 grounded stories, you know, from from you guys. 1006 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,600 It's something we love to discuss and talk about. 1007 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,600 So please, do you know if you know somebody or you have one 1008 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,520 you just haven't told yourself, don't be embarrassed about it. 1009 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,440 Drop us a line. Yeah. 1010 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,200 It'll be great. It'll be awesome. 1011 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,200 Absolutely great. All right, John, this is a good 1012 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,560 one. It's always fun. 1013 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,320 I'm glad. Guys, thanks for tuning in. 1014 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,240 Thank. You. 1015 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,920 We're big fans of yours and we really appreciate you showing up 1016 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,880 for us. Yeah, really do. 1017 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:12,880 Thank you so much.