gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen. Hello.
I think they're, I think they're ready for us.
I think so. I think so.
I think we're here. I think you're real.
We're here. What is going on, Uncle Gary?
What up my man? I like that you started grave
grave cleaning now. Dude, I am so glad to be back
into it, man. And I am in so much pain because
of my arms and my skin and I don't, I'm still just out there
scrubbing. I don't care, you know, right
out there. I love it.
It's like a it's like a Big Bear coming out of hibernation.
Dude, it is literally one of my favorite things to do.
You know, spirits are not like, you know, like, you know, it's
like those things that you just enjoy doing.
Yeah. It's just it, it's, it's weird,
man. And like, and it's funny.
People on the live think I'm joking around when I say, hey,
you know, when I clean graves, I don't make that much money doing
it as if I was somewhere else or doing something.
I'm not engaging with the audience.
I'm not, you know, it's just me and the grave, me and the
headstone and I could, I just, I love doing it.
It's just like a fulfilling thing, you know, so.
Is that, is that like sort of were you do, were you out there
walking around or doing like spirit stuff, you know, or doing
the, the, the, the spirit boxes before the grave cleaning?
Or were you grave cleaning and then realize this is a good
place to be, You know, like when did the, when did the chocolate
hit the peanut butter on this thing?
Like how did you figure out that that's what you tried?
Let me tell you something, I'm so glad you used that
combination chocolate and peanut butter cuz that is the food of
the gods. They say it's ambrosia, but we
all know it is chocolate and peanut butter.
But that's besides the point. It was actually the other way
around first, you know, first it was spirit communication and
whatnot. And then if memory serves me
correct, we came across little Mamie who is a, you know, one of
the, the children's spirits that I've spoken to.
And you heard grave was just dirty, you know, and after
talking to her, I'm like, you know what, I think I'm going to,
I'm going to clean your grave. Now, I've had experience doing
similar things in the past. You know, I used to have an
outdoor business where I did a lot of outdoor work, sprinklers,
you know, landscaping, you know, all sorts of stuff.
And I've cleaned a lot of like, statues and monuments for a lot
of like, you know, very rich people back in the day.
So I have experience with this sort of thing.
And I was like, you know what, I'm going to clean her grave.
And then it just took off from there.
I loved it so much it wasn't even funny.
It's so cool. What I so look, we're doing a
special, this is a special sort of bonus live.
We're still going to be live tomorrow at 4:15.
Yes, yes. I'm sorry to cut you off, but we
we spoke about what we're doing and we're getting right into it.
Yeah, we have someone. Yes, we're going to be live.
Are you looking at the chat? Wait, wait, are your eyes going
to the one person in the chat who you want to jump on?
Because I want to jump. Are we going to the same person?
Let me see ready. I'm going to I'm going to show
everyone because this is we want to talk to you guys.
We want to go hard into the chat and Congrats.
This one. I saw it and I wanted to.
I bet you're looking at the same one and this guy.
Oh, it is. I do not believe in life after
death. I believe it's demons that
imitate people. Reason.
Franz, if that is your real name, thank you for starting
things off out of the gate Hot. Yes, hot out of the gate.
Hot out of the gate. Would you like to go first?
Well, here's the thing. It's like it's not spirits, it's
demons that imitate The whole thing is so great.
So, all right, there's no, let's just analyze this statement for
a second. We got he doesn't believe in
life after death, but he does believe some sort of like demons
that are out there where I don't know where he thinks they are,
which is great. So it's like, but that's like
that's real. Like that's the thing, life
after death. No, you know, demons that are
not only somewhere, but pretending to be the dead are
the people that were once alive. Yes.
All right. So I don't know where to go.
So my first. Question is, wait, hold on, I
want to keep going. He just added he was in an
accident and he was flat. So he had a a near death
experience, which by the way, I'm I'm very familiar with.
I have a whole other project that I'm doing based on that.
So that's I think that's great. And it sounds like if you saw
Demons, then he might have had what's referred to as a
distressed near death experience, which is about that
whole show that I'm doing. I don't.
I can't talk about it yet, but it's like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll definitely promote it when
it's out. It's really good.
It's. Very, that's pretty wild too.
But all right, so John, what do you think?
What do you think of his theory here?
So here he clearly had an incident that that he clearly
had an experience that led led him down this path that he
believes to be why there's no people in the afterlife or
spirits in the afterlife, but just demons.
So what do you think about SO? Here's the deal.
We need to talk about where this concept comes from first,
because this concept is a very religious concept.
Very religious, OK, Like, like super religious that most people
that are like super, super into religion feel that anything that
has to do with any sort of spirits are demons, OK?
That's just like the norm for them.
I don't understand where they got that from.
Or I know it comes from Deuteronomy and a couple other
texts that have been misinterpreted over time and
rewritten. But it's just it to me, it
doesn't make any sense. And so we have to start there.
The religious implications now to say that someone doesn't
believe in life after death but they believe in demonic entities
is like saying you believe in a sandwich that doesn't have
bread, you know, or some other thing that's acting as the the
witch in the sand. You know what I'm saying?
Like it, it, that doesn't make any sense to me.
Like if there's an afterlife, if there's an afterlife, then there
then there are entities that some would call demonic.
So I think what he meant to say was that he doesn't believe in
spirits in the afterlife and that there's only demons.
Now my research and my documentation has proved, you
know, that to be very, very untrue and very, very unfounded.
So he's saying here he just, I just want to, you know, let him
have his say here. I do believe there are spirits
such are the creator, angels, demons, but I but I believe that
humans die and cease to exist with a possible resurrection one
day. I'm a little lost at this
statement because it's grammatically a fucking mess,
but it's sort of like so I don't know what he's trying to say
here. I do believe that there that
there are spirits such are the creator.
Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about, but it's.
He's getting very religious. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK. So, right.
OK, very. Very, very religious.
Sure, sure, sure. The problem with English and
There's nothing wrong with religion.
Do not twist my words around. There's nothing wrong with
religion. There's a problem with religious
fundamentalism and that fundamentalism can grow in
certain ways. And unfortunately, my friend
France, please take no disrespect.
You are on the way to fundamentalism regardless of
what your religion is, because you're in here getting very
religious. You know what I mean?
But that's the size of the point.
But but what I will say is this, what I what I will say is this,
have you ever thought about taking religion out of this
question of the afterlife? Have you ever thought what that
would be like not to deny your God?
I'm not asking you to do that, and I never would, and neither
would Garrett. What we're asking you.
I might is to take be fair. The religion out of of the
question and and you know, what does your brain think of like
how, how would that work without religion?
Right, and he does, but I guess he does believe in apostle and I
don't want to spend too much, too much longer on France here,
but it's like, and he does believe in a possible
resurrection. So he is a believer in zombie
day, which is like, which is great.
You know, we, we we love zombie day.
It's a really wonderful, you know, we just had it, we
celebrated it. That's why are we, you know,
that's right, you know, go to Spirit.
Website Yo, we got zombie day. T-shirts got Zombie Day T-shirts
there Well look, you know Fran Franz, thanks for for kicking it
off. I you know John here here's
here's a basic question. Let me ask this.
Let me ask you this question just to play along to this a
little bit but not dive into his thing are demons.
Do you believe in demons? That's for you.
Do I believe? In Demons, I believe in demonic
entities that humans call demons.
I don't believe that what people think are demons are actually
from Hell, you know, and, and being led by Lucifer.
So what do you think they are? I believe they're into
dimensional entities. But So what?
So what? Like from what created them?
Like where's the energy that created them?
Or what is the thing? Who knows, maybe it's the same
energy that created us on a different level.
But it didn't come. But like we think our, our,
we're playing off the philosophy that spirits are the energy left
behind from the living. Yes, so, but you're thinking
these entities are something else.
Yes, something else, but. They are.
They do exist. They do exist like we're, you
know, we're in one wavelength of the field, they're in another.
So yeah, I do believe that. And so the way I define a
demonic entity is any non human energy that is manipulative and
dangerous towards our energy as a human.
That's so that that implies a lot too.
That means that a harmless interdimensional entity can find
its way to your area and get you extremely sick, make you feel
paranoid, make you feel violent, make you feel all these crazy
things or things might start happening with your perception,
but the the entity has no idea that it's doing that to you, you
know, So there's there's, you know, that has a lot of
implications. The words I just said.
Right, All right, well, look, Franz, thanks for thanks for
jumping in. You're sort of throwing out a
lot more stuff in here. But look, it's it's try to
listen to what the hell we're talking about here.
We're talking about ghosts and spirits and like demons.
Don't say if you take any of this seriously, you know, I
can't help you with that. But we're we're trying to have
some fun and we're and we do talk to experts.
We do take it. We are inquisitive about it, but
I mean, if this becomes some sort of like, you know, the
man's last stand, you got bigger issues than we can that we could
solve here today for you. I mean, you got to have some fun
and laugh at yourself, you know what I mean?
A little bit about. It that had a had a very
interesting comment. If I said that they were, he
said there were past family members in the car.
Yeah, it's right. So we're sort of getting really
interesting. You know, my son was
resuscitated twice after an accident. 5 First off, Mama
Lisa, that's insane. Yeah.
I don't know what I would do if I was a parent in that
situation. Right.
Wow. So he saw and he saw stuff.
And he saw stuff, so I mean it's.
Wild I. Mean it's, it's, it's weird
because like, you know, then you can get into the arguments
always. That's just the human brain
coping with what's happening to the body.
You know, that there's that's one logical explanation or, or
was the accident or whatever. Unfortunately, you know, got
your son in that state able to alter him to a point where he's
able to see these wavelengths in these vibrations and
frequencies. And that's what he actually saw,
you know? It's wild, but you know, you
brought up a really interesting metaphor before and I do want to
ask the the chat this question and you're talking about
sandwiches and I just want to know, does the audience think is
a hot dog a sandwich? I'm really curious what the
audience. What is what do you guys think?
Would you is the is a hot dog? This is a debate that goes
everybody knows. But is a hot dog a sandwich?
What does everyone think? I'm going to say it is.
I'm saying it's a. Sandwich.
Dude, it's meat between two pieces of bread.
Ah, it's meat between one piece of bread.
Not necessary. So what?
So if the bun breaks, it's no longer a hot dog or a sandwich,
hey. It's like the.
Argument. It's just not sliced through or.
Whatever it is, you know, if you keep replacing boards on the on
the on the ship, is it still the same ship?
I don't know, see, I mean a lot of.
People are saying no, some people are saying yes.
We got a couple, we got a couple of yeses in there.
Those are my people. Like on your hot dog?
How do you take your hot dog? Eric, me my favorite way of hot
dog is I like onions and mustard OK and ketchup.
Nice. I'm onions and ketchup kind of
guy, and every now and then when I'm feeling Colombian, you know,
I'll crinkle up some potato chips on it.
What? Yeah, I've never even heard of
such a thing. Oh.
It's so good. It's so good dude.
You want to speak about food evading for a second?
You know what I made this week? Or I mean, look at me.
Little little little secret tip about Gary.
I love making ice cream. I have one of these.
I have one of these ninja freezies.
Is it cool? I'm not promote guys.
I wish they were paying me to promote it, but it's like I'm
doing it for free because it's dope.
So it's I like making I'll make like protein ice cream instead
of a protein shake. I'll use the powder and I'll
make an ice cream out of it. So it's kind of makes me feel
like I'm eating something healthier, even though there's.
Still a lot of colder soup. You know, so anyway, I made
applejack ice cream. Oh shit.
So I let, I let the applejacks soak in the cereal for a minute,
you know, for like a while so that it really soaked up in the
milk. Then I drained it, you know, I
drained the applejacks out of it.
I used that milk, that cereal milk to make the ice cream with
sugar and cream cheese and the whole thing and heavy cream.
Let it freeze. Then, you know, you slap it into
the into the machine it, you know, softens, you know, it just
drills it. Basically that thing is like
hardcore, sort of like takes a block of ice and turns it into
ice cream. Then I take new Apple Jacks,
crunched it and then I mix it in, crunched up, mixed in, and
then it does the mixing. It is.
It's it's, you know, it's. Unbelievable.
Restaurant quality, it's absolutely phenomenal.
Yeah. And now it's like all I could
think about is, you know, what other flavor is going to make
good ice cream. You know, like cereal ice cream.
You, I mean, you don't have to stop.
At cereal, I can't stop. No, I know you don't have to
stop at cereal, but it's like, no, pretty dope, you know?
I mean, that's insane. I mean, what other Honey Nut
Cheerios might be interesting? You got to have flavor.
Yeah, it's probably any cinnamon cereal would be good.
Yeah. Cinnamon life, maybe?
If they still make the Rice Krispies treat cereal.
Interesting with rice crispy treat.
Rice Crispy treat cereal, guys, remember that.
Dude, with this, they're, they're not even listening to
the ice cream debate they're talking about.
They're still on Hot I just I, I, I put a glitch in the matrix
with the hot dog question. They're all over the hot dog
question here. These guys.
Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it.
That's it. Hey, a hot dog, Amanda said it.
A hot dog without the bun is still a hot dog.
I mean, how many people eat them without buns?
Yeah, those people are sick. Unless you're in like a food
competition. Listen.
Dale. Fruit loops are disgusting.
They're just I. Don't like cereal in general,
Believe it or not. I fucking love cereal Fruit
loops though. Oreos, yes I've done Oreo but I
just use Oreos. Jacqueline I don't use.
I don't need Oreos. Cereal I would just use regular.
That's called cookies and cream, dude.
Fruity Pebbles are a. Man, once at a hotel party, OK
that made me try whiskey and Oreos.
He made me dunk my Oreos and whiskey OK it.
That's the fruit ofation. Strangest.
Here's the problem. It is the strangest taste you
will ever taste in your life. But you will have another one
you. Will have at least 2.
It's the weirdest thing. It's great.
It's the weirdest thing. Guys, a hot dog's a sandwich.
I don't give a shit what you guys say.
I think a hot dog's a hot dog, yeah.
It's fine, it's fine. It's its own thing.
It's its own food group, hey. Live and let live, right?
Live and let live. All right, John, what else is
going on? What else can we just got?
I've got this is fun. We're having some fun here.
OK, guys, I know what I want to talk to you guys about.
You know, look, we're building it out the next episodes here.
You guys are devout followers, everybody that usually comes in
here. You know, I personally think
that John may have medium capabilities.
What do you think would be a great way to test that?
Should we have John give a reading to somebody?
Oh, yeah, that's a great idea. I thought you meant medium.
The other way. I was going to be like, well,
the way to test it is to put my ass on a treadmill, you know,
put me on a diet and see if I can get down to a medium.
No, but I, you know, you guys want to test that theory, not
the treadmill. Come on.
Not the treadmill. About giving you guys a reading.
Giving someone a reading, see what they say.
They want to fight you now. I know, right?
They're they're. All about the hot.
Dog, the hot dog thing really was like gave everybody like a
glitch. Yeah, hey, listen, it happens.
You try. Yeah, you guys.
So wait, but hold on, time out. What kind of reading are we
talking about? Like.
Well, that's the question, right?
Do we do, do we pick, do we pick an audience member you give a
reading to? Do we have to have somebody in
the room? Do we make it like?
We, I think you'd be better listen, if we're going to test
this out correctly because QDE that that's what I feel the
quantum device entanglement, that's what I feel it falls into
the realm of things that happen through devices and whatnot,
Yes. But if we're going to test this
theory properly, they need to be in the room.
OK OK hey I'll remind me of what the men who stare at goats type
type tests are. I saw that movie a long time
ago. I don't remember a thing about
it, though, so remind me what that means.
Who gives a shit about red hot dogs in Maine, Cass?
Like, we're past. Let's get on.
Let's get past the hot dogs, Dave, It's over.
And if it's a red hot, a red hot dog in Maine is still a red hot
dog somewhere else. And it's still a sandwich.
Let's go. Yeah.
Well, how do we test? What is what is he?
What a red hot dog in Maine. I don't know.
It's like she's from Maine and I guess they have red hot dogs
there. It's like, so give me some, give
me some tests, give me some tests for John for for like
mediumship. What would you think?
What would be a great you guys have been watching him forever,
probably even longer than I've been watching him.
What's a fun what are some fun medium like tests to sort of get
this guy to show that he might have some juice, some ghost
juice, gas? Wants a red hot dog?
Yeah. It's like who knows what it's
made out of, Damn. It I don't know.
In Maine, it's probably because it's made out of lobster.
I can't do with that. And I used to love lobster until
I got sick. You ever have that experience
with a food where you have something and you love it and
then it gets you sick and then you never want to touch it
again? Yeah, yeah, John, we'll have you
stare at a goat and see if you can make a blow up.
That would be. That would be funny.
Oh, that was a spirit. That was a spirit.
Or it wasn't my chair. That's funny, man, that's funny
energy mono me. What does that mean?
What do we mean by energy Like to test All right, so look we'll
get a reading. We might just have to do a
reading. Who would it be great to for you
to give a reading to? There's a.
Couple people. There's a couple people around,
yeah. The Who would be fun.
In the community that I could get, you know, there's got to be
someone close enough that I can somebody we could find it.
We could find them, you know, and it's got to be somebody that
I don't that I don't see a lot, you know, so it can't be like
Brian or Cato. They're in the community, but
you know, they're, they're always coming to hang out at
least every couple months, you know, so it needs to be someone
that's nearby enough to come and visit so we can find somebody
all. Right, we'll think about that.
So look, all right, we'll give that.
We'll, we'll, we'll see how we do on that maybe.
And then we'll and we'll start, yeah, we'll start, we'll start
this this round of testing for what?
To really help us hone in and pick up what the end is about it
too. I'll, I'll, I'll be.
No, no, we're going to, right. We're not going to do a, We're
not going to do another garbage reading like we'll do it for
real reading. I will.
I will try my hardest. So yes, they sound perfectly
misaligned. I think he's a really strong
empath, Maybe medium? I don't know the difference
between an empath and a medium, no.
Empaths are just is somebody that feels other people's
emotions in a nutshell. In a nutshell.
And yes, I, I, that I, I am definitely I'm, I'm, I'm a
stronger empath than most people know.
I could pick up on. It's like reading a room, you
know, like I could pick up on people.
And it's more than it's, it's, it's really more mannerisms,
tone of voice, things like that. It, it, it's not, you know, like
even if someone's sitting there completely still, you know, you
could still read them. You could steal their face, like
their, the way their body is, things like that.
I'm very good at that. I've always been very good at
that, you know? And it's perfectly misaligned
have against the letter E is what I want to know.
It's like I'm reading that thing and I feel I'm getting dyslexic
just reading your name. Did you see this?
Maybe. Maybe she has a problem with the
letter E. Yeah, it's bad luck or
something, who knows? Maybe.
I don't know. Yes, Kathy, did I think.
Kathy did say that. I think Kathy did say that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mama Lisa, we got somebody else
in New York. Yep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm really, I'm
really digging the chat here. Like I don't need the the Y TS
on to read the chat. Are you, are you doing it on the
thing? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm. And it's bigger than me.
It's bigger than everything. I I I I enjoy.
It you don't really need to do yourself.
Yeah, it's cool. And if like if people started
chatting on like Instagram because we're live on Instagram
as well, we would see it like it would it would bring it all into
the same place so you wouldn't have to go to each site.
Oh, I may have a bit. I may have caught a ghost on my
Ring camera that I want to share with people.
Oh, OK, so I uploaded it, not quite sure what it is.
I want to show everybody you guys might have a better idea
what or what this is. So I know we get a lot of Ring
camera video security footage and you know you know, people
ask us to evaluate it these orbs or it could be a spider or it
could be dust or it could be just you know, whatever it is.
My ring camera rang at like early morning 4:00 in the
morning let off a thing. I took a look at it.
I'm going to share it with you guys.
You tell me if this is a ghost. You guys ready, ready, ready you
ready to see it I'm. Ready.
OK, it's about 30 seconds since we're wait for it and it's going
to come on. Takes a minute for it to kick
in. Are you all looking?
You see this? That's my front stoop right
here. It comes.
It's going to come out and you're going to see it.
It sets off the camera to get the motion and then it jumps
into frame. It's right about soon.
We should see. Nope, it's a fucking bobcat.
It's not a ghost. See it?
Dude, that thing that was a bobcat, huh?
Yeah, wow. Oh, look, that's big.
Yeah, that's a big boy. You're a fucking ghost guys.
It's a bobcat. It's a bobcat dude, you can't
leave your dogs outside. No, I know.
No. Sometimes I get coyotes out in
the front door too, sometimes. But it's.
Yeah, yeah, That was that fun. That was the first time I'd seen
one of those. You know, you know what?
You know what's really interesting about coyotes?
Coyotes in this area are like weak, scared and timid.
While I'm hearing from people that coyotes in other areas are
like, ruthless, like they'll go after children and pets and like
all sorts of things. Yeah, they're like, I'll see
them. I'll see if I'm walking on my
street. I I'll seize coyotes sometimes
like a block away, like there's, there's like two or three at a
time and I'm walking my dogs and I just wait.
But if I'm like if I like get loud, they run off.
They don't really come around me.
I have small dogs too, but they're usually around.
But yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll wait, you know what I
mean? Like they're sneaky.
They're just, they're not like they're not, I've never seen
them to be brazen. Like they're not going to come
at me. But if like I wasn't looking,
they would sneak around and try to get my dogs or something.
For sure. That's.
Interesting. It's weird.
Yeah.
Here, they're here.
They're more scavengers, you know?
Well, they're very, yeah, they're very thin and like,
they're not intimidating. Yeah.
You know, it's, it's just. You know, I got, I did.
I did. One time.
They'll come across a pack of them while walking one of the
cemeteries, and that was wild. That was right.
That's that's not cool. That's scary.
Yeah, no, no, dude, there was at least 5 or 6 of them and they
were following me around. They were waiting, you know, and
I wanted, I wanted to go. I was hoping that they were
going to charge me. Like that scene in Beauty and
the Beast. You.
Know, I think those are wolves though, right?
Those are wolves, though. But hey, listen, I can, I can
pretend they're, they're, they're wolves if I wanted to,
you know? So like we're looking at this
chat here and I, I reckon I'm starting to recognize our name,
the names of a lot of these people.
These are like these are true now, I would say splintered
spirit society members. For sure.
True hardcore they're in it we show up when we show up they're
on your lives all the time. We need to get our we need to
get these numbers up. Let's our first goal is 1000.
We want 1000 followers on YouTube.
We want 1000 followers on Spotify and anything you guys
can do to help spread that word, share and do it.
That'll help this this thing everyone should know.
Look, the podcast is working, it's growing, it's slow, not
going to lie, it's slow. It's hard to get people that are
on one platform to go check out another and to go back and do
that. It's just like they don't like
it. People on TikTok like staying on
TikTok, they don't want to leave.
So if you guys like what you're hearing and you want to hear
more of it, bigger, better, that just requires like as John would
tell you, it just requires financing and funds and
resources. And the only way we get that is
by people. The more people we have, the
more listeners we have and we can start, we'll get
advertisers. I don't need you guys to pay for
a thing. We'll do this.
A lot more. Often, yeah, And it'll just be
more, you know, and there's going.
To be guys, just so you know, regardless of all that, there's
going to be more of these pop up random podcast lives.
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Yeah, that's what they want. There's a lot of them that they
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my songs that I do all the time. I don't know if you've ever
heard it, the the crystals, Jesus, salt and sage.
You ever hear that? You're going to make a
recording. You want to make a record.
No, no, no, just like on a T-shirt.
You know, like a cute little like crystal, Jesus, salt and
sage. You know what is?
Because people always ask me how I protect myself.
So joking around I go crystals, Jesus, salt and sage.
What are those shirts? Do you ever see those shirts
that people that just text of names and you have to figure out
usually what the show is like? It'll be Rachel Ross, you know,
Joey, it'll be like, but it's always written the same way.
You could totally RIP that off too and do yours in like one of
those styles with those 4 words. Yep.
Crystal, that's funny. That's a lot of fun you can have
with that. Yeah.
Yeah yeah I have a bad listen. My tism just makes me threw out
random songs at random times so. What about crystals?
These crystals, really, Are they a thing?
Why are they a thing for people? Dude, so, so listen, the new age
and the science is where it gets murky.
Like if you get your hands on 2 quartz crystals, like literally
like you, you, you go, you're walking around.
I don't know if California has like courts like New York does,
but like if you're walking around, you pick up two quarts
crystals up off the ground and you slam them together.
It switches the electrons between the crystals and it
creates a spark. OK.
So there is an energy, there's something happens with energy
and crystals, you know, a true player for real shirt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we definitely need a true.
Player for real shirt. That's a good idea, right?
That's a good no. But yeah, so there is now The
funny thing, and this is what I get a kick out, I get a kick of
when it comes to the talk of crystals.
Yeah, tell me about it. The more clear a crystal, the
more pure it is, which theoretically means the more
energy it can hold because of the way it's aligned.
Hence why you can take 2 clear quartz crystals and slam them
together and create a spark. Well bro, I could take a fucking
match and rub it up against something and get A and get a
fire. Yeah, but that, but that was man
made. You know, they were talking
about these things that you pick them up right out of the ground
depending on where you're at. You know, we could go for a walk
and I could find courts, you know, here in New York.
So other crystals like, you know, Tiger's eye and amethyst
and you know, all these other crystals, they, they, they're
not that pure. That's what gives them their
pretty colors, you know. So the whole idea is that
certain crystals do certain things when the reality is all
that should be abandoned and anything and everything should
be, you know, clear quartz or, or a crystal that's clear.
And what do you put more stock in, if anything?
Crystals or tarot cards? 100% crystals, 100% crystal.
Well isn't tarot cards are more about the person doing it right?
I mean, isn't that? Yeah, but the problem is this
has been so diluted because now you get all these people online
doing it and whatnot or giving general readings online and it's
just, it's not what it was. You know, tarot cards should be
done in person. Plus I, I'm, I'm a little vexed
and a little biased when it comes to tarot cards because of
all the scams. You know, all the people that
copy my account and claim my new tarot card readings.
So right I I hate tarot cards, right?
What, what is the, what is the, I'm just going through all the
little things because I like all these little things that play
into this space of like spirit communication, right?
What is the craziest thing that's ever happened with you
And a spirit board? A Ouija board.
So there's been a couple of of very, very crazy things that
happened. I did one in here where
afterwards I got bit and was like literally like gushing
blood, which was wild. At buck out.
I felt like there was something trying to suffocate me, like
sitting on my chest or pushing on my chest.
I had to destroy the spirit board and one of the craziest
things that happened to me when I was younger and I talked about
it today because a dude whose house it happened at came into
the chat and brought it up was my girlfriend at the time and my
ex-girlfriend and another friend were playing a spirit board at a
house party and I wasn't there yet.
I was, I was just got out of work showering the works and I
was going to head over there and they released something into the
house that caused everybody to get sick or fall asleep.
One of the girls got dragged into the kitchen and completely
disappeared and there was a pair of green ominous glowing eyes
that was emanating from the kitchen.
In the darkness, appliances started going haywire, lights
turning on and off. I mean it was insane and it
didn't stop until I destroyed the board.
Now I walked in with one other person to this house party.
OK I walk in, he immediately just starts getting sick and
starts puking and I was completely fine.
So I literally went up to the dude who just got done getting
dragged across the room by something.
He was terrified. And he's like, they're dude.
They did the spirit board, they did the spirit board.
And I went into the kitchen and took the spirit board, brought
it into he lived in a dead end and I brought it to the dead of
the end and lit it on fire. So I mean picture this it.
Was like, all right, but hold on, all right, I want to take.
I want to take. I'm sitting.
There smoking a blunt while I'm watching the spirit board burn.
I go back into the house. Everybody's fine.
No, I want to ask here, Here's what I want to know.
It's like, all right, How? Why do you think that could
happen with a Ouija board? What is a Ouija board?
That makes it some sort of doorway.
What do you mean? Like what is that?
I think it's human intent. I think it's human intent
because in ingrained in the back of our minds, regardless whether
you believe it or not, you see a spirit board you automatically
think of like communicating with the dead or demons or whatever.
OK. I think it's human intent, but.
You're saying it's spirits that come through it?
Or do you think it's these other, another dimension that
comes? What are you talking?
About just I was just about to get into that.
OK with the spirit board. OK, you can contact more than
just spirits. You can contact inter
dimensional entities, you know. So for example, the most common
is Zozo. Yeah, OK.
The most common is Zozo, right? What is that?
So Zozo people think it's some scary demon, it's a trickster,
it's an. I think Zozo is an
interdimensional entity that doesn't understand what.
Do you mean like Led Zeppelin sort of reference?
I mean it, but The thing is what happens a lot is that the board
will go back and forth between the Z and the OG and the O, But
I've had it where it's the A and the Z or where it's like other
random letters. It keeps going back and forth to
those. I think you're tapping into into
dimensional entities that don't know our language.
So that's what I think is happening with that, but you
could technically anything. OK.
I'm just trying to figure out
what my next question is on that because it's like what is what's
moving the board? Is the board being moved by
spirits or is it being moved by the people due to spirits moving
through them through the the planchette?
So theoretically it's the spirits moving it, theoretically
it's the spirits moving it. And I've done the spirit board
by myself and have had. It on and you know nothing has
happened. Right.
You know, by yourself, Yeah. Have you had the spirit boxes
running at the same time? Do you have you been hearing the
spirits in the room and then you sort of still nothing's decided
to move it? Nothing's decided to move it,
but I could tell you a very, very, very sad and terrifying
story. Dude, dude, we're all sitting
here waiting for a sad and terrifying story.
You know. Let's hear it.
How sad though? Is it going to be a real bummer?
Can you make it funny? I can't make it funny.
There's nothing I can make funny about.
This I'll try. Let's see.
Let's hear it. I'll.
Try to make it. I'm telling you, you're going to
be like, Oh, no, trust. Me Watch, Watch.
I'm about to freak people out. Let's see how funny I can make
it. You might make me laugh.
Let's hear it. So it was in my old office.
It was in my old office here at the factory.
My closet, yes, when I had a closet and I did the spirit
board, I had the spirit boxes running and I felt like
something completely took over me while I'm doing the spirit
board and I literally got what some people would call
downloads. Now I'm live and this is
happening and I'm like, guys, because of what's happening
right now, I'm not going to take, I'm not going to have you
guys take on faith what I'm saying.
And just know that the the experience we're having right
now is because I am getting some sort of download, some sort of
things are getting beamed in my head.
Hold on. Hold on, you're using a spirit
board using a spirit. Board The Spirit board is not
moving. Your hands are on a planchette
on a Ouija board, Yes. And all of a sudden you're
getting something. You're getting memories or
something of somebody. Of somebody, right?
So. Now is it like are you, is this
like an ET situation where it's like Elliot doesn't know what
ETS thoughts but he's feeling ETS feelings or you getting
actual visual feelings or or images or memories?
Yes, fear everything, the smells, the hearing, the
feelings, everything OK? Almost like I'm living this and
I became a woman named Mary. Or Elizabeth, Right already.
It's funny. So this is where you became a
woman? Yeah.
It's where I became a woman. OK, I either either.
I think I believe it was. I believe it was.
Her name was Mary, and she was brutally raped and beat.
All right, that's funny. By three drunk men.
They were drinking gin. I distinctly knew each and every
one of their sounds and smells, and I felt everything.
Now, I'm not telling the live community this.
I'm saying, hey guys, I'm not going to tell you what I'm
experiencing right now. But I didn't have to because
then she came through on the spirit box and she told and she
just started talking about it. And then I and then I told, then
I told what happened, you know? Now, when you were when you were
a woman, did you kind of like it a little bit?
No. About how you felt as a woman.
No, not in that instance. I'm trying to lighten the mood.
Yeah, let me.
Tell you something not for. Let me tell you something not at
all. Not at all.
And let me tell you, I always found all that very disgusting.
Like I'm not a cat caller. I'm not a, you know what I mean?
Like, Oh yeah, dude, it's gross. No, no, no, no.
There's there's no question. It's absolutely gross.
Has this ghost ever, has this spirit ever come into the into
this office? Not yet.
Not that I know of. She has come through one other
time before in my other office. Do you remember?
I had three offices here. This is my third one.
My first one was the closet where that happened.
The second one was the bigger office that you've been in.
Yeah. You know that, that first time
and then. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And then here.
So that was the first office. The first office was here, but
it was, it was a, it was like a closet basically.
You know, it was like a walk in closet basically is what that
office was. That's what she came through the
first time. Then she came through in the
second office. She has not yet come through
here. Now you know what's funny, man?
You know, it's like we're just talking if everybody has is
caught up on the pod for episode 9 and.
That's the only time that's ever happened to me.
OK. But like, you know, we were
talking about this and we were saying, you know, like, hey, ask
him the question. Like do you think you're a
medium? And remember, guys, we shot, we
we recorded that pod just before Christmas and we just had all
those sessions with Kathy and John is sitting there like, oh,
I've never had a download. I've never those mediums get
downloads, all these things. But here there was a
circumstance that caused you to get an.
I don't know what other elements were in alignment for that to
happen. I think it was the spirit board,
dude. I think she bypassed all the
bullshit and when you, because I believe that when you're using a
spirit board, second, your hands go on that pamphlet, your intent
is to talk to whatever, that's it.
The channel is open, the doors are open, you're going in it
regardless, even if you open or close it like it starts.
But maybe you I. Only, and I only open and close
the spirit board so the randos in the chat don't start losing
their mind. You know, I just keep it
traditional. But in reality, I think the
second your hands are on that pamphlet regardless, they're
opening and closing it. You're you're you're, you're
connected. But isn't that just, that's just
the device, right? I mean, really what you're
talking about is the intent behind it, right?
I mean, it's not it's like, you know, if you opened your mind up
to letting them to let that happen, you know, do you really
need a piece of plastic with a with a magnifying glass in it to
do it? Or, you know, you know what I'm
saying? Do you see what I'm saying?
Like that sort of helps you focus, I guess.
But couldn't it just be, can it like this tape measure, you
know, like all of a sudden misses my spirit connect and
like, if I'd listen, really like concentrate and let them in, you
know, what is that? You know, maybe that's the thing
with if we ever want to try a reading, getting you in a mind
space that you're not used to, that you're normally don't do to
see if that's a a waiting for you to get them in.
See, I view, I view a sphere board as a tool.
You know, it's a it's a it's a tool and any tool can be you can
create with it or you can destroy with it, you know, like
right. So that I mean, you know, maybe
that's what it is, you know, maybe that's why I can't pick
up, say this battery pack and go, all right, hold on, there's
something here. You know what I'm saying, right?
But you also don't look at the battery pack in that same light.
It's like it's a sort of mental. It's a mental bot, and that's
intent. But that's the bot.
That's intent. Oh, look at this.
This is a great question John. Like someone asked and I don't
know if it's true, but could that be the same Mary we have
seen in the mirror? Or heard him.
I, you know, one big thing I'm starting to stress these days
is, you know, probability, you know, versus if it, if it's
possible or not. And, you know, obviously
anything is possible. It's just is it probable?
Yeah. And if we look, and if we look
at the data, we come across so many Marys, there is a
possibility and a big possibility that the Mary in the
mirror is not the same Mary that came through that day because of
how many Marys like. There's a lot of, especially
that time period. I feel like everybody was named
Mary. Everybody was named Mary and,
and my documentation proves that because we've come across so
many Marys, it's not even funny, right?
Yeah. The Mary.
Mary sues the the the one in the mirror.
Got it. Yeah.
No, Yep. That's crazy.
But spirit boards are
interesting, you know, I mean, because listen, you can always
get that one person while you're doing it that's pulling it or
influencing it. I've seen that before.
I've seen other spirit boards done, you know, and what I like
to do to ensure that there's no human manipulation is I hold my
spirit board like this. My, my pants look like this on,
you know, on my hands when I'm using it.
So and keep my elbows extended so like there's no me, like, you
know, moving it myself even by accident.
It's a very uncomfortable position that just, you know,
locks it. Sorry, this is funny.
I wonder if John would dress from that era if any of the
spirits would come through more clearly.
So here's what we're going to do.
We're going to put you in a dress with a corset.
OK. You know, we'll get you all
dialed in. We'll get you like a real tight
sort of thing. We'll strap you up from the
Gilded Age, from the Gilded Age, you know, look like this is a,
a, a high society lady. And then see super high society.
Yeah. And then see if it comes
through. You look like something out of
like, yeah, like the Gilded Age or, or Bridgerton.
And then see if that helps bring these spirits through these
factory wenches, right? People are here for the white
curly wigs. That's pretty funny, right?
I I do not feel like I put myself in such a predicament.
Right. Where did you get that shit?
That's great. I like the robe, you know that,
but that's a funny wig, dude. This is where we dude, that's
that wig. See, we got it.
You know what that wig would be funny to wear when we start
looking at people who actually give real ghost stories before
you make judgement, like is it a grocer?
Is it not? You put the wig on and then it's
like I declare this to be a spirit or not, which would be
funny this. This man has a spiritual
connection. Yes, yes, it's perfect.
It's perfect. That's funny, man.
Listen, if you're not here to laugh, and I always say this,
this ghost with Splinter Spirits too, if you're not here to laugh
and have fun, then you're here for the wrong reasons.
Listen here, we want to. Discuss, but we also want to
laugh and have a great time doing it.
There's nothing in this podcast or on this platform that is
absolute right? Like there's just no like for
the people who come on and like, you know, especially the ones
who was that I was reading your chat today and it was like there
was that one woman who got all Jesusy on it and it was great.
And it's like demon, this is what it is.
And it's like, bitch, how do you know what it is?
Like, I mean, you know, it's just like it's not, you don't
know anything. You just don't.
And if you can't have fun with trying to figure this out, or
have fun figuring it out, you know.
It's, it's crazy, it's crazy the amount of absolutes, the black
and white. It has to be this, it has to be
that. Nobody ever, nobody ever just
goes, hey, let's just hear what's coming through.
We'll treat it at face value, you know, almost.
So when I was, when I was studying to be a psychologist,
because believe it or not, I was studying to be a psychologist.
I almost have a master's in psychology.
Almost. I just, I, things happen in
life. I couldn't, I couldn't complete
it. So one thing that you know,
you're taught is when, especially when dealing with
somebody who's delusional, don't try to break their delusion, you
know, take it for face value. Talk to them, see what their
experiences are, see what the delusion is, you know, ask the
questions as if you're inquiring about who they are or who they
believe they are as a person. You know?
And I, and I apply that to spirits as well until a spirit
gives me a reason to be like, oh, wait a minute, you're full
of shit. That happened to me the other
night. I can't remember where I was
when it happened, but his spirit pretended to be a child and I
and I caught it and I flipped out.
I think it was here actually. You caught it in a lie.
And yeah, I caught it in a lie. Well, that's wild.
And it was like, it was like, first it goes, mommy, you know,
whatever. And I'm like, oh, it's a child.
And then it was like mommy, mommy, mommy.
And then but like the way it said that was complete.
Like you could hear it mocking. And then I when I called it out
and said, you don't fucking, you know, what do you think I'm some
sort of like like a beginner at this?
You think you're going to fool me?
When I called it out, it started laughing.
Oh, that's wild. Yeah, that's super wild.
Yeah, I got angry too, you know, I had to set my intent with that
because I don't want, you know. Yeah.
And her laugh. Dude that was crazy.
Yeah. Oh, was that?
It was a female voice. No, it laughed as it laughed as
a child. Oh, I see.
It was two nights ago in the tower.
Oh, that's wild. Jamie, why do you want to know
if I listen to Iggy Azalea? What is that I'm so fancy?
Is that who sings that? Oh yeah.
I think so. I mean, I don't know, like, what
do you mean? Like when I'm alone in my car
and I want to feel an emotion, do I turn on Iggy, Iggy Azalea?
The answer is no. But I'm, you know, if I'm on the
radio, it's like I'm not going to change the station or
anything. I don't care.
But I don't listen to it. Like, you know, it's like that's
how you know, if you really like, like who are you putting
on when you're in the car by yourself?
That's who you know you're a fan of, and it's you know it.
Might have been said. It's who I thought.
I thought maybe it was Sarah that was pretending.
Again. It's a big possibility because
the spirit said Sarah. Sarah was an entity here that
pretended to be a child. An entity or a spirit?
I mean, you think it was something else?
I think it was something else. I have a whole theory on it,
just from what I've gathered. So when you, so you know how
like you're always like John, fuck it, throw blood on the
mirror. Let's do this.
There's a reason why I don't because these things have long
lasting effects. Rituals and it's the crazy
thing, rituals and like dark rituals and evil rituals, they
normally don't affect your surroundings immediately.
You know, these things for some odd reason affect years to come.
It's almost like they fester and they grow and they get more
powerful and they build up. So we're seeing here at the
factory effects from a ritual that happened in 1997 that the
spirits talk about all the time. And I think it brought forth
these entities. And I've seen this before.
I've had this experience where I've docked at the especially at
the undisclosed location where I've documented people doing
rituals, sacrifices, things like that.
And it brings upon these entities from other realities.
And they're not human. They're nowhere near human.
And you could clearly tell the difference while you're
communicating with them. Do you think they have genders?
Do you think it's female and male?
I think. Or beyond.
I've had some that when they pretend they'll pick a gender,
but the overall is no, I don't think they have genders.
I think they're, you know, they that doesn't even concern them.
They're on a wavelength where, you know, gender doesn't even
matter, right, right. Who knows, they could be both if
they do have a gender. We just.
You have no idea. You have never Who should we
talk to? Who should we talk to?
To see, you called it. What?
A demonologist. So you, well, it depends on what
you're talking about. Well, who studies demons?
If you want to talk to somebody who believes that these entities
are demons straight from hell, then you would find a
demonologist. If you want to talk to somebody
who feels and feels that the a lot of these entities are
interdimensional entities hailing from other realities and
other universes and things in higher dimensions and lower
dimensions. There are people, you know, I
mean, Joe Rogan has these people on all the time.
You know, there are people that believe in all these things.
Some of them will take DMT to trip to, you know, communicate
with them, you know, things like that.
But technically, this has been going on for ages.
I mean, you know, people in all sorts of societies all over the
world have been tripping, you know, to communicate with things
from beyond, dude. And a lot of people don't even
know this. In some of the ancient altars in
Jerusalem, they've found evidence of cannabis.
So imagine that they're throwing heaps of cannabis in fires on
pillars and breathing this shit in in the temples.
But dude, they've been smoking cannabis forever.
Thomas Jefferson smoked cannabis, had slaves, and he's
still on the damn nickel. I mean, people do it all the
time, you know what I mean? It's like there's no crazy, you
know, it's like it's, it's as long it's, you know, it's as
that's always been around for sure.
Yeah, but but what I'm saying is, is that the whole, you know,
people using other substances to communicate with
interdimensional entities has been happening for a very long
time. You know, some call them spirit
guides, other call them, you know, it's the same side of the
coin, if you will. I at least I believe.
Sure, sure, sure. Yeah.
Well, really, if there's anyone religion that you think has sort
of the most credibility in terms of, you know, in terms of
anything supernatural, if you will, or like who, what would
you say is to? That Well, so Oh, you mean on a
supernatural level. You don't mean like in a in a
general level? Like if I had to pick a
religion, what would I go with? No.
No, I mean on a no, no, no, I mean on a supernatural level,
their beliefs seem to line up the most with any sort of
potential reality that could does that even?
Is this even a good question? But you know what I'm saying?
Like is there? It's a good, it's a good
question, but it's not what's it called?
It's I don't think there is one. I think there's bits and pieces
of some that are pretty, you know, that, that have things
that are cool, you know, that could align with how close
things are. But I don't think there's one.
I think there's just bits. Of that right.
You know. Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, there's not. I can't think of one.
I'm not that well versed in all of them for sure.
But it's like it doesn't seem like.
No, there's, there's, there's really.
I mean they all have like cool elements, you know to to them.
Right. You know, I, yeah, I thought
originally when you asked the question you were talking about
what religion do I think? Is like if you if you were going
to pick a religion, if you were like forced to pick a religion,
Satanism. Satanism for you?
Probably I. Don't know man, I I I think that
if I actually did believe in a religion dude, I would listen.
Maybe Scientology would probably help my career.
Dude, the teachings of Buddha and the teachings of Jesus,
they're so similar, you know what I mean?
They really are. Yeah, Buddhism.
They really are. Satanism is, although I do like
a lot of the Saint Satanic stuff.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Their their pillars are.
Their pillars are top shelf. We've said this before, but they
really are like like if you just, if you took it, if I just
said them to you and didn't tell you it was Satanism, you'd 100%
agree with all of them. Yeah, well, a lot of people get
confused. Most most Satanists Most
Satanists are that are actually in the Church of Satan are
atheists. Yeah, you know they believe it.
They it's a symbol to them. It's not a actual belief.
If I told you what they were, if I read them to you, you would be
like, Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
You wouldn't even know it. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're,
they're with. Wisdom is a good one, yeah.
Technically it's the same teachings of, you know, again,
Buddha and Jesus, just written for modern times.
What do you think about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's really what it is. So it's crazy, you know, I mean,
we, we both know how we feel about religion and you know, and
all that, you know, we're both atheists.
Well, it's so funny. It's just so funny how they like
this. These conversations get the
audience so bent, you know, that's what I'm sort of
enjoying. And it's like, you know, the I
say enjoying, but I do I like it's like it gets a rise out of
people just because it's they're so hard hell bent on like this
is the way it is and this is fact.
And it's like, dude, how did you get like it's like, you know,
we're not saying 2 + 2 is 4 here.
How can you can? Why do you think this is for
sure the way things are? You know what I mean?
I just don't. I just don't get it.
Yeah, I don't get it either. I, I, I I've never gotten it.
I've always tried to have an open open mind with things but.
Like, like people on here tell me to shut up already.
So it's great. Oh yeah.
Nice. Yeah, it's awesome.
But I love it. Yeah, it's just dude, the the
the issue is, is that people give religion a bad name.
It's people. I'm pretty sure more people have
died in the name of religion than anything else.
Than anything else. More people have been molested
for war more than anything else. More people everything in the
name of religion, all different types of religion.
You know religion is just, you know, right.
It's, it's, it's the problem isn't the gods.
The problem is the actual people that back the religion.
Right. You know for sure.
That's what's so fun about this dude.
Because don't forget the Nazis were Christians.
You know, like. Yeah.
Gross, you know, blows your mind, right I.
Mean think like. Really, really like, think about
it. Insane.
Yeah, unbelievable. Well, that's why we're having.
Fun here. It's like, it's like I have more
of a gripe with the people that follow religion so harshly.
They're willing to condemn these, you know, the way they
look and like, you know what they believe in, you know,
instead of the person themselves.
You know, be funny man to do stand.
Up I'm the one that's that's going on the rants.
Yeah, it's OK. You know, you're making it.
I love it. Yeah, I love it.
You know what I would think would be fun to do, man?
It's you're a little out of sync.
I don't know if that'll get tweaked or not if you're still
out of something glitch, but talking to the spirits maybe
sometimes getting their thoughts on religion.
I have. Are they, you know, do they have
a new perspective or are they edged in their ways?
They're edged in their ways, dude.
One time the saddest thing I came across the Spirit on the
steps of a church. The Spirit did not want me to go
near it because it was trying to get into heaven and it didn't
want me to get into heaven instead.
It was the saddest thing. And I'm like, I didn't know,
like, you know, how am I supposed to handle myself in the
live? Like, do I tell the spirit, Hey,
I'm sorry, but your God doesn't exist.
Insult a bunch of people that do believe in God, you know, or do
I just, you know, take a more neutral approach and be like, oh
spirit, I got no answers for you.
You know, this, that and the other.
Yeah. It was pretty crazy, but it's,
I've come across so many spirits that talk about their personal
truth. You know, the first cemetery I
ever, ever investigated was a Jewish one.
All right. And let me tell you, let me tell
you, walking around the cemetery, you never heard one
lick about Jesus. No.
They did say things about God, you know, but they never say
anything about Jesus, you know, I've come across all different
types of spirits walking around cemeteries, and they all say
different things. Some spirits believe in the
rapture. Some spirits are waiting for
judgement. Some spirits decide that, hey,
I've been here so long, there's no God damn God, you know what I
mean? Like, it's pretty crazy.
And yet they and that their minds haven't changed.
That's crazy. Yeah.
And when they do change, they can kind of get negative about
this the topic, almost like their faith has been broken.
So. And not once have I ever heard a
spirit say they're coming down from heaven.
You know, the closest to heaven that I've heard spirits talk
about is when they themselves are at peace and they feel their
surroundings are like heaven, which is pretty wild to think
about because I believe in multiple heaven like dimensions
and hell like dimensions and everything in between.
I really do, you know, and I don't think there's like, you
know, heaven. I'm only saying the word heaven
because it's the closest word in the in my language that I can
apply to this realm of existence that I'm Speaking of.
Right. So yeah.
Well, that makes sense. I, I understand what you're
saying. I understand your perspective on
it. It would be curious to see.
It's funny that they they haven't.
There's no new perspective on on their, you know what I'm saying?
Like on their front. Yeah, like the Capitol Theatre?
Yep. What happened at the Capitol
Theatre when that spirit said straight up that this was their
heaven? Yeah, I was.
I was blown away by that. OK.
When you go back there. I'm not sure that I think
they're waiting on me and I'm just I want to get through.
I'm actually started going through that live little by
little while I'm going through the other ones that are about to
get deleted. TikTok only allows me to keep
them for 30 days and they're a pain in the ass to download.
So like when I'm downloading it, it usually takes about 1/2 hour
to download the whole live. It has to render and then
download. So usually what I do when I
start alive, as I start downloading it while I'm going
through it. So I started doing that one bit,
bit by bit. So I, you know, I can take that
out because I know they want to see the video soon and I'm sure
a lot of people that missed it want to see it.
And then so I. Can be like OK I went through
this live, let's do the next one.
Oh yeah, you got to drop some video.
You got to drop some clips to keep them happy.
They're going to see that. Yeah, yeah, well, they were
extremely happy with the live right.
They were ecstatic. They thought it was awesome and.
That do they have their own? Do they have their own social
media page? Yeah, yeah, OK.
So you can tag. Them I I I they have like I
think they have like 200,000 followers on insta or something
like that. They have a YouTube presence and
they have a TikTok presence as well.
All right, So you can tag them and stuff like that.
That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right. So, Yep.
Which actually brings me to my next, and I know I'm going to
get a lot of shit from this brings me to my next big things.
I'm making a lot of changes with Santa Paranormal, OK, And I am
actually going to start following certain things, you
know, because I don't because of the fake accounts I don't
follow. And I thought maybe at by this
point, TikTok would, you know, solve the problem, but they
haven't no, and they're not going to.
So I'm going to start, you know, certain things like, you know,
splintered spirits. I'm going to follow obviously,
you know, the Capitol Theater, you know, things like that.
Maybe other creators that I'm friendly with, you know, things.
Like that, I think that'll listen, I think that'll still
help, you know, in terms of especially with me and I,
because if you follow me and you, you say you follow
splintered spirits, your, your, your fan base would know that
you follow splintered spirits, But there's only going to be 1
Santa paranormal follow like on my account who's following me,
You know what I'm saying? Where it's like if like I'll
dump anybody else who's not you, you know what I mean?
Like, so it's got to be they'll they'll know the cross promotion
of it. Like, they'll be able to see
who's following me and they'll be able to see that, you know
what I'm saying? I think that's easy to fit.
I think that's easy to solve. But yeah, like getting you
verified seems to be, does does Instagram verification cost
money? Is that part?
Is that like a financial thing? It it, it is.
It is. But they won't like right now,
they won't let me because the account's so small.
They won't let me verify under Santa paranormal.
They want me to verify under John Santa.
And I was like, no, that's not. The brand How many people do you
need? How many people do you need to
be considered to get? I'm not sure they they didn't
say, but yeah, you can pay for it, right?
You know, you could pay for it once it gets big enough.
Like if I had the account called John Santa, I'd be able to do
it. And I think it's like $15.00 a
month or something. They do what what X does.
Yeah, yeah, the premium sort of bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you pay and listen.
I actually think that's the way to go for and I think it should
be more. I think if you have a, if you
have a brand, you know, and it's a legitimate brand, regardless
of what it is and you can pay, you know, you should, you know,
pay to get verified because no troll is going to pay a handsome
fee to be verified. And if they do, well, then guess
what? You got someone with some severe
mental illness on your hands, you know.
The money to burn, unless the money to burn go with the money
I guess. Yeah, yeah.
So you know, that's, that's, that's the deal with that.
You know, that's the deal with that.
Wow, Look at this time flies, man.
We're over. We're over an hour, almost at an
hour and 15 minutes. Yeah, it's good.
Yeah, good. I like this guy, you guys.
Enjoying this? Let's find out if they're
enjoying this right now. You guys enjoying this right
now? Who's having fun?
Shut up, Gary. Yeah, shut up, Gary.
Gary, stop talking. She get AT shirt made-up.
Shut up, Gary. I know so is that my is that my
wife on the phone, on the on the chat?
I don't know, no. You know what I mean?
Like, shut up, Gary. Like who else would say that,
you know? Yeah, yeah, who's having fun?
You know who's having fun? That's what I want to know.
Oh damn, mad people commenting. There we go.
Yeah, a lot of people having a great time.
Awesome. Look, we're we're a little loose
today, guys. We're just talking tomorrow's
live. We'll get a little more spirit
focused are talking about the episodes to come, the episodes
past. We hope everybody's really
listening and watching and spreading the word.
You know if you go on Spotify, yeah.
And if you go on Spotify, rate it, star it, like it.
If you're going on anywhere you are share it, help us get some
subscribers. We got to get those those we
just got to get the numbers up. You know, in terms of because
you know how these sites are guys, you know, the more
followers and subscribers you have, it unlocks other things
that you're allowed to do to get more people and to get more
interest and to get ads jumped on.
You know, it's just like it, it's just sort of things to keep
the business rolling. I mean, look, we're only about a
little over two months in to be honest.
It seems like longer, but it's not.
So we're doing pretty well for it.
I mean, I think we've almost hit, we're almost at 3000
streams over the course of the time.
But the truth is the goal is 10,000 hours a month to get and
to get people for 10,000 hours a month, we need about 2000
subscribers because we have that about just about that many a
little more, give or take, because we have just about that
many episodes of time worthy to get those numbers up right.
That'll about hit it. So that's where we're at.
That's what we're trying to do. That's what we're hoping you'll
help us with. We're hoping to spread the word.
I don't know. I got nothing else for today.
We can just, you know, call it, wrap it up, leave them wanting
more. That's.
It and then we'll come back tomorrow.
Tomorrow we're a little later. Tomorrow's live is at 7:15.
We're going to try a new time slot, see if we can get some of
those people who've been missing out because they're at work, you
know? So 7:15 tomorrow Eastern, 4:15
Pacific for, you know, and it won't be as long.
I think we'll do like good high and tight just like our normal
ones that are our normal live podcast, all business
professional style, ready to rock it.
And set. You know how we do.
But we got any. Good ghost stories.
Did anybody submit? We got a couple.
I got to take a look at some, you know, we, we'll, we'll see a
lot of people submit stories without evidence.
So I got to go through those. I'll go through them before
tomorrow for sure. And then we'll have, we'll pick
a few to talk about or one or two to talk about.
And then where do you think you'll be tomorrow?
Do you know, do you know where you want to think about where
you want to, where you want to do it from?
If you're going to be in the office or.
Yeah, most likely, Yeah, I'm actually, no, I'm going to be in
the office because right after that is the other I actually saw
I'm working on. I'm working on three different
projects and Thursdays is the days that I do it now I'm not
going to talk about those projects yet.
Some of those projects are in production now.
Some of them are have been going on and yeah.
So I'll be here at the office. It's it's the best.
I won't be able to get anywhere else at that time cuz as soon as
Flint of Spirits is over the next one starts up so.
Gotcha, man. All right.
Yep. All right, everybody.
Thank you so much. We appreciate you coming through
on a on an impromptu live Wednesday afternoon.
Yeah, thank you y'all really appreciate it.
And we will be in here. Yeah, we're going to.
We will see you all. We'll see you all tomorrow.
You know, it'll be 4, 15 Eastern, I mean West Pacific,
7:15 Eastern. Yeah, that's how we do it.
Perfect. All right, guys, we'll see you
tomorrow. We'll.
See you tomorrow. Take care.
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