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We got one person in the chat. I am John John Santa from New
York. Hey guys, I'm Gary, I'm in LA,
his uncle. We are here to discuss all
things Splintered Spirits, our wonderful podcast about ghosts
and the journey of what ghosts are.
How do we prove it, What our spirits?
What is John? How does he do what he does?
I hope you've all listened and enjoyed the latest 2 and and
bonus drop. If you missed the live last time
in episode 5 and 6:00. We we we had some fun, right?
And we're moving into a like a little mini phase here.
So 5 was kind of a recap on the 1st 4, sort of touching base,
getting some more ghost stories and it's kind of a sweet 1.
But 6 is where we start to really get into what's about to
happen next. And I would love, you know, and
that's where we bring cat, we introduce Kathy Nadal.
So and we bring a medium into the fold. 2 And the whole point
of that for anybody who sort of missed the point of all that is
one thing Boyd was saying was that we should bring a medium
in, somebody reputable to see if John was in fact interacting
with spirits or versus A haunting versus just radio waves
or an app creating its own thing.
And with Six, I just wanted to meet this person first because
you know, if she was totally full of shit, I'd be pretty good
about spotting it, you know I'm. But then it started off a little
like, I don't know what she's talking about, but then she
really got specific in what she's talking about, so.
Let me, let me. I got a couple questions.
For you, jump on it. Jump.
I got a couple questions for you.
I'm curious because again, this episode was mainly, you know,
you interacting with Kathy. Yeah, I was.
I wanted a vet her first before I sit her down with the with
with you. So let's get your let's get your
mindset about about about not, you know, just Kathy, but
mediums in general. Sure, you know, how do you feel
on that whole subject? What is your?
Never done it before, I think it's total horseshit.
OK. And so, all right, so then when
meeting Kathy, you know, what was your first impression?
Well, you know, it's fine when at first.
So she came highly recommended from Lloyd and Lloyd is a guy
just for people who don't know, you know, if you if you still
don't know who Lloyd is, listen to episode 3, episode 4.
And I have dealt with him in TV shows and productions in the
past and he is known and well known and regarded in in
paranormal and he's and he when we told him where we were, he's
like, I have a great medium in the area.
She's the real deal. She's legit.
OK, so I'm curious when I met Kathy, I loved it.
I I was expecting somebody much older, you know, and then it's
like, you know, like cuz I just, I have this when I hear like
psychic medium in my head, I picture like a gypsy with a
crystal ball and like something that's all like crazy.
But, you know, she is none of those things.
She was actually it's, you know, she's like a, you know, a
retired Colonel or something like in the, you know, like
really like crazy. Yeah.
And, and a, and a total metalhead rock star from the 80s
and 90s. Yeah.
It's like she's not what she'd
picture, which is also kind of makes it great, right.
You know, in terms of meeting somebody new.
Yeah. And then, you know, we just got
we got into it. I will say, just so everyone
realizes between the the time that I called her and we set up
the first call of the Zoom where she gave me a reading a few
days, you know, and for everybody out there, other than
splintered spirits, I really have no online presence.
I eliminated Facebook five years ago.
I'm not on that personally. I have an Instagram account
which is private and no one's going to be able to really,
unless you're some sort of crazy hacker, you're going to be able
to get in and see what I got going on there.
And so it's, you know, Long story short, it it's, you know,
other than a LinkedIn profile which tells my work history, you
know, it's like, I don't know where, you know, the personal
information. I don't know where she would
have got it. OK, so that's where that's that,
that's where I was coming from. So it was like, OK, let's, let's
see where we go. So, you know, just like, let's
hear what you have to say. I'm ready for it.
And and what you know, when she was we're we're assuming
everybody watched the episode, episode 6.
If you didn't, you know, you can easily check it out.
They're all they're all up there now splintered spirits
everywhere. Podcasts are available.
You can you can check it out when she started making, you
know, those connections to you about, you know, the accident
and you know being, you know, abroad, you know, you were you,
you were you're out of the country.
And when she started saying these things like what, what was
it initially in your head? Like what was.
Your first name, that was the absolutely the first thing that
I I was taken aback, OK, because it was not because in my, you
know, she's like, oh, there's a guy who's put she's talking
about an old woman fixing her hair, you know, and when and she
kept saying it was related to to my wife.
So it's like, all right, well, this isn't about me.
I don't know what to say. But there's a guy here who wants
to got a big personality and he's trying to push his way
through. It's like, OK, OK, And what?
And when she said he says you were out of the country when he
passed on vacation. And it's like, and this is how
this happened over this is like 10 years ago.
OK, So it's not like, so there's definitely no way you would know
where I was. That was like, how do you know?
I mean, that was like, OK, I. Didn't even know you were out of
the country when it happened. Yeah.
So now I'm leaning in. That made me lean in, bro.
That was like, yeah, all right. Now I got to lean in and figure
out what's what's up. Because that is how and, and
honestly, in my head, all I'm really thinking is how would she
know that? How would she know that?
Like I'm, I'm trying to run
through everything I've ever posted or had could possibly
have posted about this, which is nothing.
I've never posted. I was a way, you know, I mean,
it's like I can't. So it's like, that was what that
was my initial reaction. Like how would she, how did she
know this? How could she possibly know
this? That was where I was coming
from. And it's not like, you know,
it's not like what she was saying was broad like to say, to
say to somebody, hey, you know this, you know, this person died
and you were out of the country, not in another state, not in
another town, not you were out of the country when this popped
off. That's a, That's a that's
starting to narrow in more than you know.
She's starting to go for a smaller target, is what I'm
saying, which is pretty crazy. And then she said, then she said
two things about the kids, which I don't think I put online, but
I could talk. I'll talk about it here, which
is fine. But it was sort of like she
said, you know, that this guy's watching your kids and he's like
one of the kids, He's watching him.
He's in water a lot. He's in water.
And it's like my kid just started playing water polo,
literally just started. I had not posted a sit and
again, I'm thinking, how would they know that he just started?
I didn't post anything about water polo on my Instagrammer.
And and even if she could have hacked into it, there's nothing.
I post nothing. And the other one was horses,
you know, like he, you know, the other we other kids horses.
My other kid goes to a school where they have horses and they
ride and they ride. I mean, that's the a big thing
about that was a big thing about her freshman year where she goes
to school was a it's a riding program in the barn in the
stable. And she said, she described now
she described like a weather vane on the top of the barn nor,
you know, like, and I had my kid take a picture of it and there
was a weather vane right there. But then I mean I, which is
wild, but you know, I, I assume most bars have weather vanes on
them. So it's hard to, but still, the
horses thing is very specific to one of my kids and the water was
very specific to another kid and I cannot figure it out for the
life of me. It's just that's she knew that
she knew it. Yeah.
So then obviously, because there's an episode 7, yeah,
that's coming out, you, you know, passed, you know, yes, she
passed the test. She passed.
She passed my. I was like, OK.
She passed this guy I. Got to see what she says about
that. Yeah, I'm not going to go
through this alone, bro. It was like, if if she's going
to make me freak out, I want to see what she says about this
guy. Because here's the he's the one
surrounded by spirits all day. Let's see if, you know, if I got
a few floating around me, that's a different story.
Let me see what she says about him.
I'm not going to do this misery. Loves company.
Hold on. Let's let's let's dive into this
real quick. We're going to, we're going to
separate from what happens in episode episode 7.
We'll save it for episode 7. Let's talk about that.
And you said a very interesting key thing there.
While you were joking around, you said I got some spirits
floating around me. Now, let's say hypothetically
spirits float, right? Let's say they float.
This wasn't in person. Everybody, mind you.
What, what, what, what? My uncle and Kathy, you know
what, what, what? When when they interviewed, when
Gary interviewed Kathy, it wasn't in person.
It was done over over the phone. OK, so.
Just like this. We did it just like this.
My question is, how is Kathy able to pinpoint the particular
person that we were talking about?
OK. Was that person floating around
you or floating around her? Now here's that's true.
I want to point this out before you or she was saying how she
has to go to a meditative state. Yes, before she does a reading.
Yes, yes. That's a great question dude.
Was she is. It, I remember her doing the
meditative state before, you know, we went, you know, we did
the whole thing at the office at first, you know, and so, yeah,
so that's the question. Like, how was that happening?
Now, through my research and my documentation, I've documented a
very, very interesting phenomenon that I have labeled
QDE. Lot of people in the chat might
know it, quantum device entanglement, and that is most
rudimentary as possible. Spirit particles here react with
spirit particles where you are. What if that's not the case?
What if it's not QDE or this thing that's QDE is something
much larger and greater, allowing somebody to connect
with somebody, you know, via a phone, right?
Hypothetical. It's, you know, it's a, it's a
big possibility. So that would explain, OK, why
that particular spirit was hanging around you when she was
able to tap into it. But let's talk about the, the,
the, you know, the other possibility that that spirit
wasn't around you. You know, this spirit was around
her feeding her this information.
You know, she said. He was louder than the others.
Yeah. You know, so it's like, OK,
like, where is she listening now?
And that's the other thing too. Where is she tapping into?
Is she tapping into, say, where you are or is she tapping into,
say, where you know where she is?
Now, here's another thing that I found very interesting.
When me and her were together, that particular spirit that came
through for you didn't come through at all.
That's true. You know, and and and, yes, you
know I. Was there?
Yeah, you were there that that spirit did not come through,
which I thought was also very interesting because why would
you come through just that one time and then not get, you know,
the opportunity to do it again? We're not only one family member
is there, but a second family member.
Well, why do you think? What do you think's that?
I mean, she was focused on you for her.
She was focused on me. So the only reason why I'm
bringing that up is because they're now there's two blood
connections to one particular spirit, you know, so maybe it's
not even about like the blood possibly, or he was there and
there was just tons of other spirits around and she couldn't
hear him through the rest of the, you know, the spirits that
are there or the memories that are there, whatever you want to
call them. See, this is the problem with
all this. There's so many possibilities.
There's so many. And this is what I, this is
what, where we have to think. And you're a very logical
person. So I'd love to hear your input
on this. We have to think logically about
it. What is the, what is the most
logical probable answer to her abilities?
How does her abilities work? We've already identified that
there's something there. There's definitely something
there. Either she is the most luckiest
bullshit artist on the face of the planet, or there is
something there and there's no way you can bullshit what she
did because she didn't just do it to you.
She did it to me as well. And everything that she spoke
about, although she thought had to do with me personally in my
past, it wasn't. It was my immediate present.
She was talking about everything.
She even pinpointed Eddie Boy, which is which is wild.
All right, well, let's think of it.
Let's there's there's two things let's let's point out, which is
think about it from what you believe in magnetic fields.
Let's assume then what we're doing is, well, again, I'm over
Zoom, but if she's tapping into something that's tapping into
me, this is tapping into something that's tapping into
you when she's focused, maybe what the ability is, is the
ability to focus a magnetic field.
Maybe. Was that?
I mean, I don't know what. That maybe maybe.
In the and she does that for herself.
And then she does that for herself when she meditates.
And she's focusing on you somehow, so that it guides.
Let me ask you a personal question.
Do you mind? If you don't want to answer this
personal question, that's fine and I promise it's relative.
You don't have to get too crazy either.
What was your reaction to his passing?
Oh man, it was, well, it was shocking because of the way it
happened. Is the way it happened, right?
Yeah. Right.
I mean, other than the obviously, other than the, you
know, obviously other than the, you know, the, the normal
feelings one gets when you know someone you love, you know,
passes. It was shocking.
It was like a, a a, you know, and honestly, I think we both
felt the same way about that. I mean, listen, we all know he,
the person we're talking about was a bad ass, OK?
Hands down, one of the toughest mother you will ever meet in
your life. One of the kindest people you
will ever meet in your life. But he's somebody you didn't
with. You know what I'm saying?
Really. Nobody in their right mind would
with this person. People still tell me to this
day, you know, oh, we, you, you that you remind, oh, you were,
you know, I remind them so much of him and you know, blah, blah,
blah. You got the personality, you
have the personality for sure. Yeah.
Oh, he had a fucking personality.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He was a charm, Yeah, he was
just a. Charmer that Yeah, you know, but
we. Also couldn't, I remember we
couldn't go eat somewhere once because he's like, I can't go
eat in there. I'm like, why?
He's like, well, I, I punched that waiter out once.
You can't. You can't.
Great. Great.
You know it's. Perfect.
Yeah. So, yeah, it's it's that's true.
I mean, it's the big personality was very inch, you know.
I was just, I was just curious, maybe, maybe I had something to
do. Because then there's, there's
the other side of it, you know, maybe it's me.
I'm very like anti speaking to family when they pass, like when
I'm walking around the cemetery and I get near somebody who I
know I'm related to, I will treat, I will go up to the
grave. A lot of people don't know
there's some some of you do. I will go up to the grave.
But I treat them like every other spirit.
And the fucking funny thing is they treat me like every other
person. You know what I'm saying?
Like there's no difference, you know, even if it's somebody I've
never met, which I always found, you know, very interesting.
But yeah, no, I was just wondering if it was a.
Dude, don't let me forget. You know what I was checking
out, what's his name, Speed last night because I was up late.
Gosh, another influencer. He does.
So, you know, he's somebody who does what you do, you know,
started after you and does it. We like him, Chris.
Right. Oh yeah, Chris.
Yeah, Chris. Cool people.
He said something about spirits that I wanted to when you say
that about the graves that I thought was really interesting,
which is, you know, when you're at a grave and we're sitting
there and it's like, oh, is this the spirit of the person in this
grave or is it the a spirit of somebody visiting which someone?
They they know on the grave that.
Happens. All the time.
I had never thought of that in which was really.
I've had times where I'm either going up to a headstone or
around a headstone where a spirit that comes through is a
family member is an actual family member of that person,
like somebody who's looking for that person or is waiting for
that person. A lot of the times, especially
from cleaning children's graves, family will come forward, you
know, and it's not the like the child thanking me, it's the
family thanking me saying, John, thank you.
Yeah, it's interesting, right? It's an interesting.
Story Yeah, no, it's true. Listen, the the the basic data
is there. And that's why I always tell
people if you watch other people's live streams, you know,
think about what we talk about here and what I talk about on my
live stream on TikTok, apply it to other people's streams,
you'll start to see the patterns.
It's like, wait a minute, you know you're up at a headstone of
a guy named Bill. And then all of a sudden, you
know, Rachel's coming through and it's like, wait a minute,
who the hell is Rachel? You'll come to find out.
You know, Rachel was the sister. Rachel was an older sister, you
know, and Rachel's not even buried there.
Wow, that's cool. That's crazy.
I got a question for the chat. I mean, is anybody in the chat
sat with a medium? Anybody that's a?
Good one. That's a good one.
What? What?
Tell me, Like, tell us, what do you think?
What do you think of mediums? What did you think of Kathy?
She's going to be out for two more episodes.
I hope you liked her. You're going to get a lot of her
for. Let's start with Kathy.
What would you guys think of Kathy?
Your first impression of seeing her on episode 6?
Don't everybody type it once? Yeah, they're going.
Here it comes. Yeah, I know.
Here it comes. I love it.
I loved her. She seemed like an absolute
badass, so Bri had to say. Yeah, impressed with her
credentials, Hale said. Yeah, she definitely was a
badass. Yeah, she was very down to
earth, too. Like she was very down to Earth.
Yeah, You know, she does. This is the other thing I liked
about Kathy. Just to point out, she does this
forever. Is it Forever Family Fair, the
Forever Family Foundation that certified her and does it?
It's a nonprofit. Yeah.
And their whole thing is to help grieving, you know, family
members. Yeah.
So it's not like she goes out and she's trying.
You know, I'm sure she does do this for money, what she does.
But what she does. Thanks for that.
She's not making money off that. And that's the, the
certification process of that, which I thought was like, that's
there's something, you know, there's, it's not sleazy in
anywhere, right? Nowhere near.
Right. My first impression was here we
go. And then when she hit on the
purple stuff, it was right. I was impressed.
Yeah, me too. Me too, Karina.
That's exactly, exactly what I felt, right?
I I want you, I want you guys to pay attention to when you guys
watch episode 6. Yes, this was six.
Yes. So 77 pay attention to how she
is in seven and then how she is in eight.
Because I was a little impressed with her, not just because of
what she was pinpointing, because she already had me sold.
Even though she was saying, you know, she ends up saying, oh,
this is stuff from your childhood.
She was speaking about stuff that I deal with and I document
that's what she was actually speaking about.
Makes sense that she would say childhood.
You know, it's, it's not, this isn't an exact science, but she
had me on that. When she goes into the fireplace
room, it's when you see her, she becomes a day she gets you go a
lot more animated when describing things in there, you
know, so. Yeah, and look it up, guys.
I mean, she's written a couple books.
If you really are into her, show her support.
You can find her online at Catwitch NYC on Insta.
And she has a couple books on Amazon you can find.
Her last name is Cat. You know, it's Kathy Nadow
Nadal. We like her.
We're fans. Yeah.
You know, it's crazy. And she and here's a little
extra treat. Little action happens in there
too, you know. That's right, that's right.
That's in episode 8. Get your head out of the gutter.
That's not what we mean by action.
Yeah. That that episode's a great one,
man. We get a lot of fun stuff.
I mean, you know, Edward doesn't disappoint.
No. He does not disappoint.
That's. Another reason why Edward hates
me. Yeah, he's wonderful.
He knows he's a showman. He's a showman, dude.
He knows how to. He's deaf.
Listen, I, I always say this about Edward.
He's Edward is a lot of things, but he is cunning and he is
smart. I'll never take that away from
him ever. He is cunning and he is smart.
Other than that, I have a lot of bad things to say about Edward
that will just be like getting into a bad mood about it.
I give credit where credit is due, you know, but he is, he is,
he's a very he's and, and he when it comes to spirits, like
you don't see spirits on his level, that intelligence on his
level, you don't see it. You know, it's, it's the the
next time we see something like that is with Anne Purdy, You
know, have you ever watched any of those on tik?
T.O.K I don't I don't know if I have seen Anne Purdy.
Is this a fuck out or is this a cemetery?
No, this is a pre war burial grounds and it's just, you know,
it's got a bunch of fieldstone. Grades.
Which war? Which war are we talking about?
Revolutionary War, yeah. And.
She died in 1826 or seven. I could be wrong on that, but I
don't think I am. She died in Yeah.
And she's very much the same way as far as intelligent.
And, you know, she's aware of her surroundings.
She's aware of what's going on with me and the chat.
She actually, there was one time when her frequency was off and
she couldn't speak to me. There was a division there.
She made note of that division and then started addressing the
chat instead of me, which was, which was wild, you know.
So she's another one like, like, like Edward in that regard.
Very strong, very intelligent, you know.
Jesus, she always, she always sticks up for you.
I assume this this person Maxine's referring to and and.
Offends you big time, big time. There's a lot of spirits here
that don't like me because the circumstances that happen.
This place is the only place that I've documented so far
where it's affected other people in that vicinity that are alive
and have nothing to do with the paranormal.
So this is the place where people see shadows and get
harassed by things and whatnot and they're just normal people
walking their dog or hanging out and things like that.
Because the where the pre war burial ground is, there's a
whole like dog path walkway near it.
It follows Beaver Creek, which bleeds into the Byron.
So it's like people walk their dogs around there.
Yeah. Through cemeteries and stuff.
Yeah, well, they don't. So they stay out.
They they follow the paths outside the cemetery.
They never go in. I was going to say like like
it's science. Seems weird that dogs were
pooping on graves or. Yeah.
That seems like an odd thing. Do you ever find, do you ever
look at astrology, John? Do you ever make any connections
teaching the stars and what's going on?
No. I was talking about that today.
Everyone's excited for the blood moon tonight.
And I'm like, listen, I'm, I'm doing this for you.
Like I'm taking them the buck out tonight for the for the
blood moon. The moon cycles mean absolutely
nothing. I did track them for a while and
I started noticing a pattern with the new moon that like a
lot of like my awesome conversations were happening the
day of or the night of the new moon.
And then all the sudden once more data came in that just
completely crumbled. And then I realized it was just
completely randomized. Like the moon phases have
nothing to do with spirits. People don't like to hear shit
like that. They are really crushes a lot of
things when you think about it logically.
But astrology, dude, astrology is so messed up.
If we actually went by the stars, the stars have changed
since astrology came about. A new constellation has moved
in. Like it's like it's all ofelius
orifice, orifice us, something like that.
Orifice. Orifice.
I want to call it orifice, to be honest with you.
I want to call orifice orifice, but it's I, I can't pronounce
the name of it. Maybe somebody in the chat will
say it and you'll say it, right? Right.
But it's not just. So so there's no connection to
start. You know what's funny?
So a lot of people like as predicted, right?
People want to talk to their grandma and stuff like that.
But like I think about look, when it comes to my brother, he
was and always was that person. Yeah.
Now speaking to a grandma now you don't know which grandma
you're going to get and it's like what if you get?
What if you get a grandma that was like during her ho years?
Cause hoes become grandmas too yo.
That's what I and it's like. And it's like, could you
imagine? It's like, oh, I want to see my
sweet little grandmother. But now she's passed, she's
like, you know what? I'm, I'm working spirits.
And it's like. You know it's.
Hey, Grandma, it's me. It's let's have a talk.
And she's like a few minutes. Yeah, you know, it's what are
you, you know, you don't know what grandma you're going to get
you. Know what I mean?
Think about it like this, right? What if you catch a grandma,
right? What if you catch somebody's
grandmother? OK.
And it's like, you know, they're 1920 and they're not, you know,
80. They're calling the Roaring 20s
for the reason. Yeah, she was out there, like
blowing Al Capone or something. Yeah.
For real, You know, like I always say.
Side of the story I didn't know. Yeah, didn't need to know any of
it, but now we do. Right.
You know she's a free She might be a freewheeling spirit, like
telling you the truth about what she really thinks of you.
Dude, or or she doesn't even know who you are.
And she's like, hey, come here, right?
I can take my teeth out. Oh.
My God, exactly right. It'd be so crazy, you know?
So crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't put mercury in the microwave.
It won't fit, you know. Yeah.
She's living her best life.
You mean president meeting can pull.
Well prior questions are leading.
So that's another reason why I like Kathy too.
Kathy doesn't lead. Kathy just speaks.
You're. You know what your ABS.
I didn't even notice that and you're absolutely.
Right. She would.
Say one. One can almost argue she rambles
at times. Yeah, that's why she she did not
leave. She she would say, I'm seeing
this, I'm seeing that, I'm seeing the other thing.
Does any of this mean anything to you?
And you're like, no, she's like, all right, well, you know, just
comes to me, let's move on. And it's like, what about, you
know, there's this I'm seeing this is seeing this.
That's interesting. Yeah, listen, I got an awesome
imagination and I can't even do that.
I mean, I pretend I, I, I show people that the tropes of it all
the time. Like, like I could sit here and
go, all right, everybody, I'm seeing a man.
I'm seeing a man in a, a, a black T-shirt.
He was always wearing that T-shirt.
He loved that T-shirt. His name start with AT or is it
an R PR does that you know, that's sort of the cute.
Way his name starts right, it's a it's right.
Yeah, he does have a weird name. And if somebody was able to pull
Quincy out of their ass, then you're.
Like, yeah, right. Well, you made a you made a, a a
stitch of one of my TikTok videos of that of them comment
them say, well, I forgot what the name was.
Was it not Cliff? It was.
Oh, I saw that. It was like, I know what you're
talking about. The.
Yeah. Chaz Field.
Chaz Field was the name, yeah. Yeah.
And they said the name like,
like, you know, like it's, I don't know, but that reminds me
of that, Yeah. Right, right, right.
It's funny. I'm seeing that.
I'm seeing that chats are a little slow and I'm I'm just
getting all the jokes about grandma's having sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Living the best life.
Yeah, living the best life. All right, so wait, Tay's
bringing up something here right there.
She follows a she follows a medium I think on, she says.
There's one I follow on TikTok that pulls people randomly from
the chat and asks questions. Just wants to confirm.
Tay, you're welcome here at Splintered Spirits.
You're welcome to drop the name of, you know, whoever you're
talking about. It's not like.
Yeah, drop the name, I don't care.
Yeah, you could drop the name. It's not like on TikTok, you
know, where this is completely different.
We're going to be doing that a lot here.
And then Tay, tell me when, when this person, when this person
grabs someone randomly, are they right?
That's interesting too. I'm trying to see who it is.
If I recognize who, I'll have some, you know, where I can be
like, oh, or Oh yeah, you know. Because we like, we like all
this stuff. We like to.
See the connection I give you my honest opinion too.
I stay away from these things on TikTok well, because.
Even I can see on your TikTok people just jump in and it's
like they try to do backhanded plugs like Oh no I I love this.
I agree because you know, I'm also a psychic medium.
Who? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you can find me at. Once I pointed that out, you saw
that, right? You saw how?
That works. I started noticing it.
Yeah, yeah, yes, most of the time.
Let me pull her in there. Wow, that's great.
That's wild. Yeah.
So people are good at it. And I noticed, John, we know you
don't do tarot card readings. We haven't ever tried any of
that stuff. But I wonder what the magic of
that is. So we were actually talking
about tarot card readings today because that's the big scam
where people pretend to be me on TikTok.
Like if you haven't done it yet, you can go on TikTok, search
users and search Santa paranormal and you know 50
accounts will come up and you know, like it's insane and
they're all pretending. They're all pretending to be me
doing tarot card readings. They're doing it.
They're live. No, no, no, they don't go live.
They just message you. They'll message you and they'll
try to get. Here's my cash app.
Honey, you know the moon's aligning in the pillars of the
ancient fires of Cypress Hill. Or burning.
You know, like the so huggable Healer Hannah.
I cannot say that I've heard that.
Hold on, let. Me.
I'll look her up. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
What's it called? Just real quick to see if I if,
if I visually remember. So, yeah, no, that's that's
that's the way. I don't know Tarot cards.
Listen, we were talking about it.
The whole point of tarot card reading back in the day is you
would, you know, cutting the deck, changing your energy,
you're in front of the person now everybody and their mother
does it, you know, via online. Is there something there like
QDE going back to talking about Kathy and how she was able to
connect with you? Is there some sort of
information highway that connects that you can connect
with through through a device? I don't know.
I have QDE that I was able to measure, but just because I was
able to measure it, seeing the reaction with people, how they
would act, I mean, you know, like the whole thing with QDE.
Did I ever explain any of that to you?
I posted a video of you tried to explain it to me but it's.
Like, okay, listen, the reason why I realized that it exists is
because what it did to my first years, my first year community
streaming, it was insane. And I've said this a million
times. I'll go on the record saying it.
People got crazy people you didn't even think we're going to
get crazy got. Crazy.
Yeah, there's not many of them left, you know, and a lot of
people that watch me now are are them under other accounts.
Some troll me, some stick around and pretend to be others.
I could careless to be honest with you.
Thank you for being here. But you know what it did to a
lot of them? Yeah.
No fact. What it did to a lot of them was
insane. It made me go, yeah, I can't
stream here anymore. Wow, You know, it made me
literally go, yeah, I can't stream here anymore.
This place is nuts. It affects people, you know.
That's what you said about the the fireplace room, right?
That's Yep, Yep. It's interesting man how people
can pull that off. Be a good test.
See if I it'd be a good test if I bought a pack of tarot cards
and just started reading people. Yeah, yeah.
You know. What's funny here?
Here's another thing that's funny about Kathy just and then,
you know, we didn't really touch on this, but I if you read her
books, you always hear people reading the tea leaves.
You know what? All that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's?
Great about her is she reads coffee that's.
Great. Right.
And it's just so, it feels so New York and so Italian.
It's like, fantastic. It's like she reads coffee,
Grant, you know, like you get an espresso and then you drink it
and then she see, looks at the cup at what's left and, and and
and gets a vibe of some kind. Yeah.
Which I think is hilarious. I've never heard anybody reading
coffee reading coffee. Coffee is my jam.
Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, dude, people
read Bones, coffee, all sorts of things.
People will throw a bunch of shit on the ground and, you
know, be like, OK, just garbage said this.
You know, it should be garbage readers.
Garbage readers. I could do it right now.
Like, This is why everybody needs to seriously.
I'm I'm going to do something for you.
I'm going to show you the art of bullshit ISM.
OK, I'm going to show everybody this.
All right? We're doing it live here on
Splintered spirits. This is the art of bullshit.
ISM. Are you ready?
This is what you got to watch out for.
This is actually why I conduct my lives a certain way on
TikTok, the way when I deal with.
Spirit, let's give a reading. What is a garbage?
Are you gonna use girl? Are you going to use Girl Scout
cookies? No, I'm gonna use garbage.
I am a garbage reader. Let's read it.
Here we go. You tell me something, pick
somebody in the chat, give her a read.
You want to pick Who wants a garbage?
Reading Who wants the garbage greeting?
Who wants the garbage greeting? John's got, John's got skills
you guys know he could talk to. Skills.
Who wants a garbage reading? Pick one person in the chat for
the garbage reading. Renee.
Yep. See Renee.
Yeah, here. How about Renee?
She said read us first. Because she knew.
So she's. Oh, yeah, Renee, OK.
Go with Renee. I can only do this once.
I only have enough shoes for one reading.
Enough garbage. For one reading.
Yeah. Give Renee a reading, Renee.
Here we go. One.
All right. Well, technically, technically
because it is bullshit. I could do 2.
I could do one for General for the chat and one for Renee.
Are you ready? Oh, Karina.
What about Karina? Oh, let's do Renee and Karina.
Oh my God. OK, listen to me very carefully,
everybody. Listen to me very carefully.
I can tell by the way, this all fell and fell in a pier in, in a
triangle, a Trinity, the the the the farthest point here where
this piece of garbage fell. That's you right now, OK.
And you need to get to either point, whichever point you can
get to is your journey. OK?
But listen, it gets treacherous over here because we have some
cellophane. And that cellophane represents
obstacles that you can't see because it's clear.
You see how clear it is. OK, keep going.
And it's and it's white stuff. What is this white stuff here?
You don't want to know what that is.
I I don't want to spoil it for you.
All right, So you got to get to either point, OK?
Whether it's a point you can't see but you know you'll be
there, or the road less traveled.
And I can tell it's the road less traveled because there's a
little bit of ink spill on there.
Ink spill? See that?
What do you think that ink spill means?
Renee, that's for you all. What's the ink spill mean?
Yeah, That means you're just going to, you're just going to
die, you know, when you fall into that road.
Oh no, don't go down the road. Don't go down that road.
There's things there's things you can't tell are blocking you
and you have to push past it. OK, That's what cellophane
means. Perfect.
That was fantastic. That's fantastic.
All right, John, we did get this week.
Somebody had a ghost story. You want to get into it and get
some with some evidence. I'd love to, all right.
I'm going to read. Let's let's jump in.
I'm going to read you this story.
This comes from a Kimmy Wilder. OK, OK, here's what she wrote.
This is what Kimmy wrote. Kimmy wrote while working at a
retail establishment late at night with only myself and the
manager. Merchandise would fall off the
shelves. The store was closed and the
manager was usually in the office during this time, so
nobody was a rat. First time it was a huge pack of
paper towels. I could dismiss this since it
was something light and bulky on a shelf.
The second time it was dog food in a bag that was laying on the
shelf. We also had shampoo bottles that
would fall. Many times I would hear someone
speaking, turn around and no one would be there.
The building was once a Funeral Home and then a furniture store.
Before becoming a retail store, I had used a couple of apps.
Now this is where I'm going to show you.
She sent me some pictures of the app.
So you said I don't know what. She doesn't tell me what the
app, but she doesn't remember. But you take a look at this and
tell me what you did. The building was what's a
Funeral Home and then a furniture of blah blah blah.
I've used a couple of apps to see if anything would come
through. Unfortunately, I didn't hear of
anything substantial. I only had saved 2 pics from
what I had found on June 17th, 2018.
I don't even remember the name of the app.
Now let me show you these photos of these apps. 18 is probably
necrophonic. She's going back to 2018.
Look. At you, man.
Ghost app expert, that's for sure.
Possibly, possibly. All right, let me I'm going to
share this from screen. Give me one second.
OK, so here's the first screenshot.
Hold on give it a SEC to pop up all right.
Can you see that? Oh no, that's ghost radar.
So that. Looks like where she was
standing and it picked up a. Now, do we think this is
horseshit or what? I've never used the app.
OK. Did you?
I wouldn't I, I wouldn't know. This is back in 2018 where the
technology was a little more primitive and it's a
possibility. I mean, it's, it's a
possibility. I, I can't, I've never used the
app. I mean, that anomaly could be
anything technically. So what was the?
What was the second one? Here's the other one.
This just looks like it gives you a reading.
Pull it up. Yeah, I think Ghost Radar does
that. You could do a set when you do a
reading, so. It tells you the magnetic
strength, which doesn't look like there's anything.
Yeah, yeah, right. But it detects 1 energy with
zeros. Sort of business.
The flux capacitor density. These entities are evil.
They are dangerous, powerful and agitated.
This feels like kind of horse shitty, no?
Yeah, definitely. Because how is it supposed to
know? You know how you tell we, we
can't even identify these things yet.
How are they supposed to know in the code that that's what that
is? It's not like we have ample data
on it where they can go, OK, we have these measurements.
We know that this is this. So if it picks it up, we're
going to make sure we put it in the code for the app that we
could say, hey, this thing might be evil.
We don't even it's 2025 and we don't even have that those
measurements, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I would have like, I wish that she had taken some readings
in a place like with nothing, where nothing happened, just to
see if it would come up. And, you know, look, there's a
you. Know yeah, there's a difference
now I'm not doubting her when she says things were flying off
shelves I experience that all the time so I saw.
I saw it in one of those. Yeah, yeah, you know, it.
It does happen, unfortunately. The apps at the time, yeah, it's
Ghost Radar, I believe and it's, you know, I've never used it.
I wouldn't trust it. Well, Kimmy, if you're watching
or if you check this out, when we repost this, we're sort of on
the fence. Things may have flown off the
wall, whether or not it was some evil ghosts.
I don't think it there's a chance it wasn't even evil
ghosts that could have been, you know, anything convinced
somebody to be. Shelving.
Yeah, well, think about it. Imagine, you know, to the
spirit. There's something there and it's
interacting with it, and at certain times it knocks
something off because of that. You know who?
Who we can't say for, for for real.
That's the spirit goes. I hate this fucking toilet
paper, you know what I'm saying? Well, dude, if it's not to play,
I can see why a ghost would hate that toilet paper.
Yeah, it's like sometimes some of that toilet paper is like,
just unpleasant. Yeah, I want, I want, I want, I
want 2 ply. I want to be able to tear it
Nice. I want, you know the works.
Yeah, not less for the booty hole you.
Know like, yeah, well, it's a public bathroom.
Toilet paper. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the scratchy, scratchy scratch.
The worst? You know, all right fam, what do
we got? What do we have?
Any other questions for us on the 1st 6 episodes on Spirits?
And you guys have any questions? Yeah.
What do you want to see? Is there anything you want us to
do in upcoming episodes? Anybody you'd love for us to try
to talk to? Poor spirits to explore.
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Oh, yeah, Speedy is Kimmy. Oh, OK, Speedy.
I didn't know that. Yeah.
So again, now, now that I know who sent that to you definitely
believe her that things were flying off her shelf.
You know, as far as that app that she was using at the time,
she, you know, deleted off her phone, the app is probably BS.
I doubt the thing there that was evil.
There could have been many reasons why things were flying
off the shelf. But it makes sense.
A funeral parlor. I mean, you know, and then and
then who's to say what, what drama fell down at the at the
furniture store. You know, who knows what was
going down in that furniture store when it was a furniture
store? Oh, look at this, Jack.
Look, hold on. I'd love to see what Gary's able
to do using Spirit apps if he's comfortable #1 Gary's very
uncomfortable using spirit apps because God forbid I start
getting like, I don't want to be chased by ghosts I don't want.
Any. Ghosts.
Shit. And what do I always say you
have to be you. You can't, you can't worry about
that. You got to literally go in like
you can't have that mentality. It's it's smart.
I wish more people we're like that instead of cuz dude, I get
people that go, I use this and I should have listened to John and
they come in the chat and I'm like why didn't you?
Yeah, now we did this one. We do have an episode coming up
with John and I where I turn it on on my phone and we're but
we're together. We're together and I.
Turned it on once in my car. There's a quick video on I think
I dropped it on socials where I turned it on once and I quickly
shut it off. It was pretty quiet.
But of course it said like one thing that I didn't appreciate,
you know, like that answered like my question in a weird.
I was like, Nope, no, thank God, no thank you.
And I don't want to. Here's the thing.
I don't want to know if my house is haunted.
I don't want to know it. I don't, I don't want to like
walk around. Well, well, listen, that's,
that's what people people consider opening a door.
Like my theory is everywhere. Everywhere is haunted, there's
spirits everywhere. But once you do that, once you
try to communicate with them, you're literally opening that
door that people speak about. So it's best to be like, I don't
know, fucking nothing to do with this.
Here's the other thing, but it's like, here's the thing, it's
less about it's, I'll make no say it's not about fear, it's
about being aggravated. I just want to be clear on that.
I'm not afraid to do it. I'm, I don't, I'm not afraid
that I'm going to be like, I just don't want to be annoyed by
ghosts. I don't want to be woken up in
the middle of the night. I don't want to watch ATV show
and have to speak like I, I'm not like afraid of being
possessed or anything. Please.
I'm not worried about it. I know I, I'm not going to let
that or I just not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just don't want to be aggravated.
I don't want to be. I don't want my kids waking up.
I don't want anybody giving me a hassle.
Well, that's that's the problem with, especially with family,
you know, like people always ask me, oh, is your family into
this? The only one, the only person in
my family that is into this, that loves this, that if she,
she might even be watching right now, is my daughter.
OK? That is it.
My, my, my little girl just literally is like me like 100%
with it. And she wants to do this when
she gets older. And I'm like, no, you're going
to be a doctor. You know you're going to be a
vet. You know you're going to stick
to your plan. If you want to speak to spirits
on your off time, go for it. Begging for me to come to the
cemeteries with me. And I'm like, no, I'm like, and
plus, I don't want to run on, you know, on my.
But Bree, you know what? I will do those apps, and one of
these days I will do it. I will go out there.
I will be somewhere without John and do it and it'll be hilarious
because I'm sure it's not going to be the shortest, the shortest
cemetery walk in. History, if I ever get you.
Out here, we'll go to some good cemeteries too.
We'll do that. Yeah, yeah, I'd love that.
My eyes are green. I forgot somebody asked me what
color my eyes were. They're green, but yes not.
Yeah, what's it called? And you're coming out here soon,
too. So yeah, so we got to figure
out, figure out where to go and maybe, maybe I'll go with you
there. But again, John, John will be
with me, so you know, it won't be like if it's if I'm doing
anything. And it's different with people.
Like I also theorize that when you have somebody with you, it
switches up the magnetic fields, if you will, and it's different
and it literally gets different. So, and I've done this through
groups of people. I went with all my monster, the
cemetery once. How?
About you, Chase. Yeah, I got the those videos are
on TikTok. The the coolest thing that
happened was there was a little girl named Mamie that we go when
we visit, when we go to the cemetery.
And she ended up saying, you know, that she that she loves
me. She was like, I love you.
You know, I was like I was taken aback by I wasn't expecting it.
It was crazy. She rarely comes through.
When she does, it's awesome. But she rarely comes through.
Whether she's there and can't, or she's not there, or she just
chooses not to, who knows? How about doing a live at the
abandoned site? Oh, you know, interesting.
No, no abandoned side. Oh, all right.
Yeah, yeah, no abandoned side. They're talking about where they
throw the rocks and the bricks. Oh.
Yeah, no, I want to get hit by a brick.
That's what I'm saying. No, absolutely not.
You don't want to ask this. Yeah, yeah, dude.
That's that's why I dude, dude, that's why I stopped going in
there, man. Dude, I got hit.
I got hit in the elbow the last time I was in there.
I was like, I'm done. That's so close to my damn face.
I was like, I'm done. I'm sorry.
I listen, I love my community. I'll I'll do, I'll go, I'll go
everywhere for him. But I've already gone in that
place so many damn times. That was a wake up call for me.
Like yo Johnny don't need a brick to the face so.
Unbelievable. Outrageous.
I've already documented it done. Got it.
All right. Well, look dude, that was that's
a solid hour. I want to thank.
Everybody for joining us for this hour, if you have not
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And then, but that's it, guys. Thank you once again for joining
us this Thursday afternoon. Thank you.
We'll see you again Monday
around the same time. We'll we'll post about it.
We'll talk about it. That'll be a different,
different experience and a fun experience.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I have.
No idea what's going on. It's going to be great.
Yeah, giant state. Stay on everyone.
Adios. We will talk to you soon.