1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Like, I like, listen, all respect to every skeptic out 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:06,480 there. I firmly believe that if a ghost 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,840 materialized right in front of them, they would deny it. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:16,320 Would you like to know why? Hey everybody, do us a quick 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,120 favor and hit follow and smash that like or subscribe button 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,640 wherever you're listening right now. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,240 It'll help us keep getting great guests and make it so you don't 8 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,920 miss the next episode. Now I'm with the show. 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,640 What's that? Oh, hey, folks. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,200 Welcome to Splendid spirits. Oh, hey, hey. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,440 What's going on, everybody? What's going on, everyone? 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Hope everyone could hear me. All right, I'm on. 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,400 I'm on the road. I'm on the road, guys. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,240 I hear you're just fine. But you know, they always 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,760 complain about how they can hear me or not. 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,800 But let's see who comes in. Let's give them a moment. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Oh. Settling in, they're like, wait 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,080 a minute, we're live. There's Robin. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Always can count on Robin to be one of the first in. 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,160 I love it. I picture her waiting by her 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,600 phone or computer to be like. Wait for the live. 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Are the boys on? Are those Are those handsome 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,560 boys on Talk About Ghosts? Ghosts see stuff. 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,760 And she because I am ready. I got nothing to do and I'm 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,840 ready to listen to them complain about life and ghosts and. 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,680 Ghost Life. Ghost life. 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Welcome, Robin. We love that you're here. 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,480 All right, We got a bunch of people jumping in. 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,240 Cool. I hope everyone can hear me OK. 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,560 I hope the connection's OK because I'm on using some hotel 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,200 Wi-Fi. Thank you for being here. 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,840 It's always 5050. It's always 5050. 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,800 You never know that's. How busy it is there, right? 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Good old Richmond, VA. It's my first time in Richmond, 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,280 so we'll see. We'll judge them by their Wi-Fi 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,600 in their hotel. I think there's some interesting 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,560 haunts in Richmond. There are, dude, I tried to get 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,400 into a couple places and they wouldn't let me shoot there. 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,680 I thought I would try to get into. 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Yeah, there's a really good cemetery here with a few 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,360 presidents even, And they just wouldn't let me go. 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,160 They wouldn't let me film there. And I was like, you know. 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,040 They are. The whole entire nation is very, 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:29,440 very iffy about places where presidents are buried and where 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,600 the original founding fathers are buried. 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,440 No, I bet. OK. 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,920 We have one. We have one here. 48 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:38,440 There's one right And right. What's his name? 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Oh, how did I forget his name? One of the founding fathers that 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,560 signed, you know, signed the Declaration of Independence is 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:52,880 oh Jay John Jay. Oh, John Jay is buried in in 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,920 Rye. Who gives a shit about John Jay? 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,640 It's one of the one of the founding fathers, dude, they 54 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:00,920 have his I shit you not. Now get this. 55 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:03,320 Tell me this isn't crazy. Now listen, they have this 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,440 entire cemetery fenced off like it looks, it looks horrible. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,240 It looks like you know something. 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,320 You, you know, it's just it's fenced off and there is a guard 59 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:21,240 at the entrance and the guards are volunteers. 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,360 OK? So sometimes they're not there. 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Sometimes they are there, right. Meanwhile, if you go past this 62 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,400 chain link fence and you keep going all the way down, you hit 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,480 an Indian, a Native American burial ground. 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,520 OK, that's currently an archaeological site. 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,600 There's it's still, it's on and off every year. 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,120 What they're doing there, right? Completely unprotected. 67 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Completely unprotected. So here's a founding father that 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,320 nobody nobody knows who John Jay is. 69 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,920 Everyone in the chat is probably learning. 70 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Oh. You know, some 6th, some 6th 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,120 graders, social studies might know who it is. 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,280 But my remembrance, come on, let's be real. 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,840 You think of the depolation, independence. 74 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,240 You think of one man and you think of that one man just 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,280 because of that expression, put your John Hancock. 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,720 Yeah, right here, Right. Yeah, so instead I tried to get 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,160 in there. I tried one time when I when I 78 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,480 first started doing all this, I did get in there. 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,200 I literally used my brute strength and I literally turned 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,720 up the fence, you know, and I slipped underneath. 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,720 That's funny. You know what I mean? 82 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,520 And then somebody that's, you know, has to do with the town 83 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,720 officials and whatnot was like, John, do me a favor, don't ever 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,000 do that again. And I'm like, not a problem 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,280 coming from you. Not a problem. 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,840 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Splintered Spirits, the podcast. 87 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:43,680 I'm your host Gary with John Sander from Standard Paranormal. 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,960 This is our podcast where we're trying to find the answer to 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,280 what our spirits and we are. This is our live, our Thursday 90 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:52,560 live. We don't have a guest today 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,080 because I'm traveling too risky, but we've had a great 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,760 anniversary month of February with a lot of great episodes 93 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:08,960 from Chip Coffee to Patti Negri and all of these things are 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,640 great. We just dropped our first March 95 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,480 episode with our skeptic James Underwood. 96 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,400 If you guys saw that which is a really a fun one. 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,440 Now we're back to our every other Tuesday drop. 98 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,040 We're back to every other Tuesday for a while. 99 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,480 Yeah, for sure, yes, back to that. 100 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,240 We got some good live guests coming up. 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,320 We got more lives. We've got a lot of good episodes 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,960 coming up, dude. We got so many in the can. 103 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,840 We. Don't and we'll talk about that 104 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:39,440 in a second. We got the Shanley Hotel 105 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,280 episode. We've got well, that and that 106 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:45,080 our shit look, our version of the Shanley Hotel episode, like 107 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,600 you want to see the haunts and we'll show you some from John's 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,840 experience there. We'll drop them in. 109 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:52,240 But this is like a conversation with the owner and the, and the 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,120 groundskeeper and you know, really the history of the place 111 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,240 in a fun way as only we know how to do it. 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,080 And because that's what we like to get into, right? 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,480 Still answering that question, what our spirits and how it 114 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,960 plays out. And then we've got we've got an 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,640 interview with Gary Galka coming up. 116 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,480 Gary invented the R.E.M. pod. He invented the SP7HE is the you 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,800 know, if you call, if you're, if you're watching us right now and 118 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,320 you call yourself a ghost hunter, you're using his stuff. 119 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,640 And he and it's a really wonderful story. 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,240 That was a that was a pretty long interview too. 121 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,080 He's a good dude. I don't know where it. 122 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Is but we got a lot of good ones coming up. 123 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,760 We got Benjamin Radford another skeptic and we're going to talk 124 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,560 a little bit more about skeptics here in a SEC and then of course 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,080 guys, we have a really fun one where we get a little bit into 126 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:48,440 the intimacy and spirits and that sexual energy with a very 127 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,040 popular adult film star. So if you're prude. 128 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Might not be tuned. Might not might want to tune 129 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 out, but. Or you might want to tune in and 130 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,440 learn. I learned something, learn a 131 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,640 little something. Learn a little something I. 132 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:09,600 You know, but because, yeah, we've talked about John, how 133 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,880 many ghosts have hit on you, how much that's like sort of sexual 134 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,760 energy is out there and it's like. 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,240 Gary, I can't even I I can't even give you a number. 136 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,880 I can't give you an so it's insane. 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,880 It's insane. It's one, it's one of the things 138 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,200 I'm I'm known for. It's sad that I'm known for a 139 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,040 couple of things. One, spirits hitting on me and 140 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,360 two, something I don't like to say even in the same vein, but 141 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,600 children coming through constantly. 142 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 So I deal with those two things that I dealt with those two 143 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 things recently at the Shanley. We probably shouldn't talk about 144 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,640 those two things together in the same sense. 145 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,640 That's that's the problem. That's the. 146 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,640 That's exactly what I'm trying to say. 147 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,000 You know. But. 148 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,760 It's not in this climate, not in this, not in this Epstein 149 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,440 climate. Oh, no, no, no, wait, what's 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Epstein again? I'll just play. 151 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,280 I'll. Just play it. 152 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,240 You can't be, you can't be, you can't be Epstein if it's a 153 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,880 ghost. Oh man, yeah, right. 154 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Oh, it's terrible, bad joke, horrible, horrible stuff. 155 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,840 But look, we did have a great conversation with James 156 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,120 Underwood. If you haven't seen that episode 157 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 and you don't know who James Underwood is, James Underwood is 158 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,520 the underdown. Sorry, James Underdown is the 159 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,200 director of the Center for Inquiry. 160 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,960 W Center for Inquiry is basically a like a professional 161 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,880 skeptic institute. They are, they question anything 162 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,200 supernatural and paranormal and investigate it and write about 163 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 it. And James and the Center for 164 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Inquiry W specifically has an ongoing prize for $500,000. 165 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,600 If you can prove that you have supernatural abilities and that 166 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,400 you can go in, you can. Anybody can sign up and then 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,280 they will, they vet the the people who request it and then 168 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,880 they'll have you come in and prove yourself and if you prove 169 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,760 to them that you've got abilities, they'll cut you a 170 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,000 check for $500,000. Now they've never had any 171 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,560 anybody cut. According to them, no one has 172 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:25,440 proven they've had abilities. We asked them in the episode 173 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,960 what was the funniest 1 and it was a guy who said he could 174 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,680 teleport and so they set up with room with tape and they said OK, 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,160 just come over on this side of the tape and he goes. 176 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,640 The guy was like, I just did, but you didn't know, so Gary 177 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,160 let. Me. 178 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Let me ask you A. Question. 179 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,680 Yeah. Do you think, do you think that 180 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:58,680 if somebody actually came in with supernatural abilities and 181 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:04,760 showed them that they would actually, you know, be like, OK, 182 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,040 this is real? Or do you think, or do you think 183 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,040 like, like a lot of skeptics out there, you know, you can put it 184 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,480 in front of their face and they'll be like, they'll come up 185 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,200 with an excuse, like what do you think? 186 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Yeah, You know, yeah, I, I, yeah. 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,200 This is a question that we asked him. 188 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,600 And this is a question I asked Ben. 189 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,840 And you'll see that interview too. 190 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Where, what is it? If you're going to be a skeptic 191 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,600 and you're going to say this doesn't exist, but you're you're 192 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,120 out there investigating what is the, what is it that you need? 193 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,080 Yes, to do it. And in my personal belief, even 194 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,080 after and and and let me say this about both of these guys, 195 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,200 James Underdown and Benjamin Radford, exceptional people. 196 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Oh yeah, I I, I love the The Underdown. 197 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,480 Studied episode, you know they have James underdown for as much 198 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,240 evidence that John has that spirits exist. 199 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:01,480 James has evidence in his experience that they that these 200 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,680 things don't exist from his experience, right? 201 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,160 We still had a a great time talking to. 202 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Him. He's. 203 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Respectful he's you know, he's respectful, he's open minded and 204 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:16,520 he's fun, right? There's that Ben is actually 205 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,560 gone out on paranormal investigations. 206 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:22,640 He's more you know, you know, he he really like is out there 207 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,080 looking for it and hasn't and in his mind has not seen it or or 208 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,240 believes it. So this is a long way to answer 209 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,760 your question, but it's like I asked Ben this specifically, 210 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,520 what is it going to take? And he was like, you know, and 211 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,560 his, his, his answer was, you know, he's out there and the 212 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,480 grandfather clock lifts off the ground and flies and floats 213 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,160 around the room in front of him like an extreme thing. 214 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:52,520 And it's like, so 1 I believe the only thing that'll convince 215 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,200 somebody like that is that hard of a skeptic is they have to see 216 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,040 it to believe it. And it has to be something so 217 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,040 UN, you know, cinematically insane. 218 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,560 Yeah, so we. It's not, it's not going to be a 219 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:12,000 like a, you know, it's not going to be some tapping on the thing 220 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,080 and it's, it's and it's just, you know, we, we've talked about 221 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,400 this too before, right In medical science. 222 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,640 They'll do a study, you know, and they've tested it with 10th, 223 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:27,400 you know, a triple blind test on 5000 people with placebos and 224 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,640 this and that and the blood results and they get this and 225 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,440 they show everybody, you know, and then they, they get the 226 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,800 results and they say and they follow and they do six months 227 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,960 later and they do the thing. And then they'll send that 228 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,920 report out saying this is this is what this drug does or 229 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,200 whatever it is. And this is what we've tested. 230 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,000 And every scientist around the world will read the data, see it 231 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,600 and pretty much go, well, this is the way they just believe it 232 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:00,760 because their peers have done this research tests in a in a 233 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:07,000 fashion that is, you know, set this business that we're doing 234 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,120 has none of that. And there I and I don't believe 235 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:16,280 that there is anything that will get a skeptic to believe in this 236 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,640 other than seeing it because. And we asked James, you know, we 237 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,680 asked James specifically like, dude, is there any joy left? 238 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:24,200 What would you do if you saw it? And, you know, and it's like, 239 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,240 and you know, he laughed and, you know, he's like, he's not 240 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,320 going to hold his breath. He just, you know, he probably 241 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,600 thinks we're kooks and that's fine. 242 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,600 I mean, we still had a lot of fun. 243 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,920 I'd still love to hang out with him, but it's still, you know, 244 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,920 it is. And what's what's wild too it it 245 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,800 when you guys watch the episode, if you haven't watched it yet, 246 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,880 everything James is saying, I'm agreed with. 247 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,920 There is not one thing he said that I disagreed with. 248 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,560 I I mean I don't know if he said that the that the apps were 249 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:52,480 bullshit. I'm not sure if those exact 250 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,160 words came out of his mouth even though. 251 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,240 He, he was very kind. He didn't, he never looked at 252 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,680 you and said you're nuts. You know, he's like he, he let 253 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,400 us, he let us talk about, he let you talk about your experiences 254 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,080 and he just let you talk. He didn't, you know, he didn't 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,120 contradict. He just sort of was like, you 256 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,400 know. Everything that he said I agreed 257 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,080 with and it's things that I applied to the way I document 258 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,560 spirits. So I loved the episode. 259 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:19,480 I thought it was great. It's like, and I always say 260 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,480 this, you know, when when I'm out there and I document, there 261 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,320 is a skeptic sign to me. And I've learned over time to be 262 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,880 a little less skeptic because it has bit me in the ass plenty of 263 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,400 times when it comes to documentation and evidence, even 264 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,680 though it's still there. I'm the one that looks like a 265 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,240 fool going no, let's go the spirit, you know, but and then 266 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,360 all of a sudden, you know, it's like don't crack. 267 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,200 No, I that that was the Spirit, you know. 268 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,640 And time keeper, thanks for pointing out to tell people to 269 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,680 double tap that screen. Listen, if you're tuning in, 270 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,800 you're watching splintered spirits. 271 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Make sure you hit that like button. 272 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,840 Hit that hype button. There's a hype button. 273 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, hit when you're 274 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,480 watching these episodes, hype it up. 275 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,200 That's what helps us grow. Is there a hype for the live too 276 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,200 or? Is it, I don't know if there's a 277 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,440 hype for the live, but look, I'm just going to tell listen, hit 278 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,920 all the buttons, guys, get on, hit, hit subscribe, hit like hit 279 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,240 the fig, like the thumbs up, hit the hype. 280 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,640 You know, it's like just hit them all. 281 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 And if you're watching on standard paranormal, jump over 282 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,560 to splintered spirits and make sure you follow us everywhere, 283 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,720 wherever your podcasts are anyway. 284 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,920 And here's what's great. John, I don't know if you saw, I 285 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,800 think I sent it to you. We had such good hate on that 286 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,400 episode. Somebody made a video and I'm I 287 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,560 forget their name and I'm not going to promote any people can 288 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,480 find it on your own and listen, don't go to that creator and 289 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,000 start harassing the creator. No harassing of other creators. 290 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,600 I already harassed her enough on DMS about it. 291 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,720 It's you know, I don't need you guys to speak fight my battles 292 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,080 for me. I I could do it myself. 293 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,760 But it was bad. Though it was bad, it was bad. 294 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,000 If you don't believe in ghosts, that's cool. 295 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 I get it. And you want to be a skipper, 296 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,040 that's fine. But what this person did was so 297 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:08,840 hack and hackneyed that it was just like, it was just bad 298 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,240 research. She starts the video off like, 299 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,400 giving us a hard time because we call the guy James instead of 300 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Jim because like, yeah, she she apparently knows him well. 301 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,720 And I'm like, well, I don't know. 302 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,880 Well, he introduced himself as James, though. 303 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,400 I called him James, like, but all but all of a sudden. 304 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,840 So we're already idiots, right, Because of this. 305 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,880 And then it goes on and on, just about like all the, all the bits 306 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:41,560 and pieces that she picks on us for are like, they don't make 307 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,120 any sense. And it's like they don't, you 308 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,920 know, from John bringing up a story about a, a, a, a ghost 309 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,240 calling out the name Chasfield, which turned out to be Chasfield 310 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,600 was a name on its headstones, say. 311 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,880 But her point was that we're not smart enough to know that Chaz 312 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,440 means Charles, which not only has absolutely nothing to do 313 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,640 with what we were saying, but. We did know that, too. 314 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,359 But we but but even if we didn't know what it was, let's assume 315 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,839 we're completely you're right. Even if we didn't, if the 316 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,359 spirits say jazz and the headstones say Charles, that 317 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,720 that's an art that goes towards what we're saying, that it's a 318 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,440 wild coincidence. Then it was like she got mad 319 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,520 because I said the Kathy Nidal reading blew my mind. 320 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,120 My initial reading, my very first reading with her blew my 321 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,120 mind. You're not allowed to feel that. 322 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,040 Way I guess, I guess when she listened to it and she didn't 323 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,640 bother by the way, she then went and critiqued the edited audio 324 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,160 version only didn't bother to watch the fully the unedited 325 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,920 full video version, which it's right there. 326 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:54,520 If you took 30 seconds to scroll you could have seen it and do 327 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,280 you know and and basically it just completely like and. 328 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,440 So anyway, it was a complete rage bait. 329 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,720 Hackneyed analysis with 0 analysis to. 330 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,400 She didn't do her homework in his show. 331 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:10,760 She. Had. 332 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,440 No idea what she was speaking about. 333 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,720 It was crazy, crazy. And then I got into it with her 334 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,720 a lot, you know, and DMS like, you know, listen, do your 335 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,200 homework. You know, if you're going to 336 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,240 slam us, do it right, do it right, You know, do some 337 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200 research. I mean, the fact that you don't 338 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,960 know any of these things or that you don't know, you know, she 339 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,720 would get out. She would get on about, you 340 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:39,520 know, like she calls psychics grief vampires. 341 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,760 She thinks they're just taking advantage of people. 342 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,280 And I'm sure there are many that are. 343 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,360 Yeah. Oh yeah. 344 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,240 Kathy Nadal does not charge for grief counseling. 345 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,800 No. And then she goes on in the 346 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,720 e-mail to say like, you know, like I'm an idiot. 347 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,440 Grief counseling like this is a joke. 348 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,720 I'm like, who the like if you made somebody, if somebody feels 349 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,400 better about themselves after talking to Kathy, who the hell 350 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,200 are you to judge that process? If if, if eating a a gallon of 351 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,960 Haagen Dazs makes me feel better? 352 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,160 Do you know what I'm saying? Like what are we talking about? 353 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Like what are you talking about? Gary, there there are people in 354 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,080 this world. This is just a hack. 355 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,720 This is just a straight hack. And I, you know, I can't let 356 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,960 hack somebody. I know you can't let hack slide. 357 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,440 When I got older, I realized something about people in 358 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,240 general. One way to vet people out of 359 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,200 your life and figure out you know who should be in your life 360 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,000 is seeing how they are when you're happy. 361 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,240 And if they're willing to put down something that makes you 362 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:48,200 happy, right, or or a feeling that makes you happy, then they 363 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,360 are a miserable person. It's such a great point. 364 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,000 It's such a great point. You know, and so especially so 365 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,960 it doesn't matter if it's like, what's that? 366 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,320 What's that old adage? What's worse, a lie that draws a 367 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,840 smile or a truth that draws a tear, right. 368 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Like even even if when it when it comes to. 369 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,200 That's deep, bro. That's deep, yeah. 370 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:17,080 Yeah, yeah, we miracle, Miracle on 34th St., You know, Miracle 371 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,080 on 30. 3rd. Grape line. 372 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,520 Grape line. But it's true regardless, 373 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:30,000 regardless if what any like again, with Kathy, you know she 374 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,640 doesn't charge people, right? She doesn't charge people for 375 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,120 the grief counseling, whether she's a psychic or not, if she 376 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:40,600 took her time, her free time to make somebody feel better, 377 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,640 that's an amazing thing. You're right, that's a great 378 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,080 thing. It's like, why hate on it? 379 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,600 It's just so weird. It's just so. 380 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,760 They take one thing and they lump everybody up into it, and 381 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,360 that's not the way the world is. I I she certainly lumps para 382 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,800 anybody in a that believes in this fringe science in one lump 383 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,160 sum, that is for sure. But either way, I I found her 384 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,880 analysis to be hackish. It would it lacked any homework. 385 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,040 I told you I have to. Accept it for me, I watched it 386 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,040 and it made me feel stupid. Yeah, it made you. 387 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:13,680 It's just you get Dumber watching it. 388 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,720 I it's like, wait a minute, what? 389 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,080 It's it's. It was bad. 390 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,280 It was. Bad. 391 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000 It was so bad. It's like, listen, listen, come 392 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,200 at me bro, but come at me, correct? 393 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,760 You know, like come out, it's fine you don't like it, that's 394 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080 cool. But be smart about it. 395 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,280 Watch the episodes I had. Somebody once when I was when I 396 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,160 was doing the Brown Cemetery, unfortunately, people over the 397 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,000 years illegally dumped in there, right. 398 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,200 And I'm like, yo, I'm going to, you know, I got permission to 399 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,160 dig at least a foot down if I wanted to. 400 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,320 And I'm going to remove all the debris that's gotten buried. 401 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,640 I didn't even have to go foot down. 402 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,280 I was able to go like 10 inches right to get everything out. 403 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,560 And I'm sitting there and I'm literally sifting the dirt on 404 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720 live. So, you know, there were some 405 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,320 clips from it. I put the clips out and this 406 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,600 person claimed, claimed that I was destroying the headstones. 407 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Meanwhile, I'm pulling out chunks of concrete and chunks 408 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,720 of, of, of, you know, fake marble, like the cabinet marble 409 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,360 and like, you know, you know what I'm saying? 410 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:23,320 Like kitchen stuff and and house debris, stuff that was illegally 411 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,400 dumped, their asphalt, you know, sidewalk chunks, all that sort 412 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,240 of crap. And here's the other thing too. 413 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,360 Here's the other thing too. These people, they are literally 414 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,880 building their content on the backs of ours. 415 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,800 All they're doing is replaying ours because guess who's got a 416 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,640 million followers? This guy. 417 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,360 This guy does he's got a million followers. 418 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:47,280 So I'm going to put him on my I'm going to take all of his 419 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,400 videos. I'm going to put it on the air 420 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,200 and then I'm going to Mystery Science Theater 3000 it with 421 00:22:52,200 --> 00:23:00,160 rage bait hate and it's just they have 0 creativity 0 drive. 422 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 There was another guy I watched who did that to you, and it was 423 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,680 like completely clueless of how social media works. 424 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,640 Oh. I know. 425 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Right. Like I don't got, this guy's got 426 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,560 6 accounts out there and they've got and it's like dude, they're, 427 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,840 they're not even his accounts. I mean, it's like people are 428 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,560 faking him. It's like it was just again, no 429 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,160 homework, didn't bother. You know, if like if you're 430 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,600 going to write something or say something or make something, be 431 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,200 good at it. Just be good at it, you know? 432 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,160 I mean, no hack. It's just the no hack zone, 433 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,440 dude. It's just like, it's crazy. 434 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,840 But that's the that's the difference between 435 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,720 professionalism and. Unreal. 436 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,840 It was really that was like, you know, at first I was excited. 437 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,160 I was like, oh man, somebody like took the video and they're 438 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,480 going to break it down the reading 'cause it's. 439 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,640 The time to look at our content and go, hey, yes, I'm going to 440 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,800 make a video about. This We listen and we put it 441 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,160 out. There. 442 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240 We put it out there. We put it out there for people 443 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,200 to do it. James underdown, specifically in 444 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,840 that episode asked like I would love to see that reading and I 445 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,720 can tell you I have I've been doing this enough in his to him. 446 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,520 I can tell you where I you know where I got played right, That's 447 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,040 what he said. I go it's online. 448 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,880 I posted the whole thing. I have not heard back from 449 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,200 James. He's probably very busy, but 450 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,760 this is who we heard back from, you know, But and the way they 451 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,840 did it was. Horrible it was. 452 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,200 Just horrible. I mean, it was just so like, it 453 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,720 wasn't even. Connections dude. 454 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:41,600 I have never ever once seen a rebuttal video or a you know 455 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,760 someone taking my content and and doing a video on it that had 456 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,440 anything meaningful. Nothing. 457 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,240 I have never ever once watched a video where I went oh wow that's 458 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,960 a great point. Well maybe I should respond to 459 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,680 them and explain it like this. Never. 460 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,080 I have never seen one. It's always the same. 461 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,880 It's always no homework done, complete lies in the videos and 462 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,600 just, you know, like rage baiting. 463 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,680 It's like rage baiting and and you know, that's why I always 464 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,480 tell my people, you ever come across that crap, don't even 465 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680 respond because that's what they want. 466 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,400 So yeah, I think the one thing that I gave this person was they 467 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,360 made fun of us for like, you know, they claimed it was a cold 468 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:33,080 reading and we were like, no, it was like we didn't know what a 469 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,960 cold reading meant. And I guess maybe I didn't know 470 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,960 what a cold reading was at the time we did that interview, but 471 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,000 how do you define a cold reading from a medium? 472 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,200 Well, I always thought a cold reading was when you, when 473 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800 they're just shooting shit out there waiting for a reaction, 474 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,080 whether even if it's like subtle facial expressions or eyes 475 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,960 lighting up and then they pull from that. 476 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,520 You know what? I that's why I, you know, unless 477 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,920 I'm mistaken on that, which I could be, because, you know, I'm 478 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,480 not a psychic or a medium. I'm not hip with the Claire's, 479 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,120 you know what I'm saying? Right. 480 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,280 I guess, but I think that's right. 481 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,400 I think a cold, I'm just looking online real quick. 482 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,000 It's like a cold reading is quick, you know? 483 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,840 All these debts are all part of a cold reading, like quickly 484 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 dropping wrong guesses and amplifying anything that may 485 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,840 land, which creates the illusion of uncanny accuracy in relation 486 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,480 to a second medium. Doing cold reading usually means 487 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,880 they are not truly receiving information, but instead using 488 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,120 these observation and feedback techniques. 489 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,160 OK, so yeah, in a nutshell what I said. 490 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Right, yeah, it's yes, that's yeah, you're on point for it. 491 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,120 And I, I don't know what's the opposite of that then like 492 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:41,720 what's the? Hot. 493 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,640 Reading Baby is it? Is that what it says? 494 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,920 I don't know. I don't know. 495 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,680 I really don't know. I really don't know. 496 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,880 Yeah, that we know what that is like. 497 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000 We we at that time, we do what? That was a hot. 498 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Reading is if they know the person before the session and 499 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,600 have done research on them I guess or they and then they're 500 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,120 ready with it. Oh, so both? 501 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,760 So both are are considered bad then? 502 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither. 503 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Yeah, neither is. Well, we already do that because 504 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,040 we already got the deep dive. That's where the whole, you 505 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,000 know, Claire what? What was it called? 506 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840 I love the words the Claire, Claire vagueness. 507 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,800 Claire vagueness. And yeah, yeah, we get we 508 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000 already, yeah, we already all that crap. 509 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,080 Listen, man, I don't know, she just sucks. 510 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,080 She that person, that creator sucks. 511 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,160 And it's like, listen, I like, you know, I think. 512 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,200 And here's the thing. It's like. 513 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,600 And we have no hate against smaller creators here on 514 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,160 Splinted Spirits. We feature all sorts of 515 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520 creators, absolutely. People that have been in the TV 516 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,880 shows, to people that have written books, to people in 517 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,600 academics, to people just starting out with who shows 1000 518 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,120 followers, who shows against. Creators Who and who's Who's 519 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,560 shown? Who has shown more marginalized 520 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,360 voices than us? Yeah, yeah. 521 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080 And who does that? When we say that Creator sucks, 522 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,400 it means something. It's like a break. 523 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,680 Change his shit. It's like, give me a break. 524 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,640 It's a do your homework, like come correct, man. 525 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,480 So it's like, yeah, just you know, I I would love it. 526 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,520 I would love one if someone you know, here's show me how it's 527 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,440 done and then explain it like, you know, and let look. 528 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Here's the other thing too. Let's assume for a second that 529 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,400 Kathy is not a psychic medium, and she's she is, by definition 530 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,120 what they believe a cold reader is, right? 531 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Someone who is can pick that up. Isn't that in and of itself a 532 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,480 level of consciousness and intuitiveness to be able to read 533 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:56,560 a person in a way that is so? Well, that's what they teach you 534 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,320 in sales, Gary. They teach you. 535 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Like like but yes, but some but but some people are better at it 536 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240 than others. And it's like, so if, if this 537 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:11,520 person is so, but isn't that a a skill set of a of a, a connect, 538 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440 an emotional empathy, even if you will, or a physical empty, 539 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,840 like a connection of some kind? And some people are better than 540 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,440 others at it, That's what I'm saying. 541 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,840 But it's natural. It's just natural. 542 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,520 For some people, and isn't that in and of itself a gift, a gift 543 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,880 And that way that you can like, I know, like I'm getting 544 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,800 something from this person based on this and I'm seeing their 545 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560 body language and I'm seeing their eyes and I'm feeling this 546 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,200 and I'm getting that vibe from them that, you know, yeah, it's 547 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160 probably about this loss. Is this person to this? 548 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Is it a here? Is it a man or woman? 549 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,200 Like, you know, like I can see it. 550 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,960 Isn't that in and of itself somewhere somewhat paranormal? 551 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,760 Well, I'll tell you what a. Skeptic's going to say no. 552 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,520 But isn't it though? Because I can't. 553 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,880 Do it. But that's the thing. 554 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,720 A skeptic's going to say no to everything. 555 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,760 Of course. Like I like listen, all respect 556 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,080 to every skeptic out there. I firmly believe that if a ghost 557 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,440 materialized right in front of them, they would deny it. 558 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680 Would you like to know why? And I can back up those words 559 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,800 because I document the paranormal and the dead all the 560 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,480 time, and I've done it myself. Yeah, it's weird. 561 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,680 I think they would have to see something skeptic. 562 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,240 They would, you know. They would have to be like Ben 563 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800 said to me in the interview, and that's in a couple weeks, guys, 564 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,120 I I want to see the clock lift off the ground, fly around the 565 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,240 room, you know, and it's like it has to be something so dramatic 566 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,160 that it's US undeniable, you know, like then his whole my 567 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,160 world would be blown. But otherwise, they don't. 568 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,000 They just don't. They don't see it that way. 569 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640 You know, so look at my Benjamin hair, Benjamin Franklin hair. 570 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,760 I don't know what the hell it's doing. 571 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,480 I was just looking at that. That's gonna get us off topic. 572 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,720 Is that crazy? You're distinguished. 573 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120 It's turning Gray and it's fun, yeah, but it's like flattening 574 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,080 out and, like, soon I'm going to be sitting there like a wig, you 575 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,760 know? You call them waist like. 576 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,400 Well, you still got a good full head of hair there. 577 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,520 I'm jealous of that. This is all going away. 578 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,360 This is all going away. I cover my height. 579 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600 My height is my. Head yet to see what you like. 580 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Never. Dude, I look terrible. 581 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,280 How do you know? You're terrible. 582 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,760 Not with these ears dude. These ears stick out too much. 583 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,360 They will not look good balls. You'll look like the old I. 584 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Will pull. The choir bat boy dude I. 585 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,280 Will put the I will pull the hairs off my ass and put them on 586 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,520 my head to fill in the spots before I go bald yeah yeah yeah. 587 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,240 There is no doubt I am not. I am vain AF. 588 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720 Yeah, I am not doing that. It's like. 589 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,880 A ball cap and try it and just see what it looks like. 590 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,600 Oh. I would. 591 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,240 It would just be so terrible. Doing for one episode. 592 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,360 Awful man. So anyway, that's our that's our 593 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,520 rant on the skeptics. Come at it. 594 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,280 So I would love it and come on, I'll have you on. 595 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840 I've had two on I'll I'll. Interview as long as you're as 596 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,000 long as you're respectful and you can hold a conversation, 597 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,160 we're respectful, debate and communicate in a in a well in a 598 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,680 well manner. We would love to have you on. 599 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,080 Always. We would love to have you on no 600 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,120 matter come. Correct. 601 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Become correct and and correct as in an actual pointed 602 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,240 argument, not not what's it called? 603 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,720 It's not called gaslighting. Straw man act. 604 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,400 Is that what it's called? Pretty, I think so I'm. 605 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,360 Trying to remember the other points of arguing. 606 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Don't come at us with the straw man act bullshit talking about, 607 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,720 you know, because we call somebody one thing and the rest 608 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,520 of the world calls them something else. 609 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,600 That that's all trivial. We don't want. 610 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,880 We don't want the trivia. Let's get to the meat and 611 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,120 potatoes of the subject here. Let's have the meal so. 612 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Anyway, it's funny now you're going to be traveling soon. 613 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,240 I'm. Going to be traveling soon. 614 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,520 Yep. Can you tell the good people 615 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,000 where you're going to be? Going, yes, I'm going to Texas. 616 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,520 I am going down to Texas. I'm going to be visiting Chris 617 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:12,360 Netzel for a week and then at the end of the visitation I will 618 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:18,240 be going for his wedding and it's going to be really nice. 619 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,800 Where are you going to go paranormally? 620 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Are you going to do any? Is he going to have a spirit box 621 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,880 at the wedding? Are you, are you going to be the 622 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,040 ordained minister? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 623 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,280 no spirit box, nothing at the wedding, nothing at the at least 624 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,640 as far as I know. I, you know, nothing like that. 625 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,800 But we're going to be doing a bunch of cool spots. 626 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,400 One spot I really want to do is go Man's Bridge. 627 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,640 Yeah, it's on my bucket list of, you know, paranormal spots. 628 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,360 So I'm going to be I'm going to be there going to be at another 629 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,000 place I really want to go called Baby Head Cemetery, which. 630 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Why is it called baby? Head, to my understanding, the 631 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:04,120 Native Americans and the settlers were beefing and the 632 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,000 natives won and they took all the heads of the children and 633 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,199 cut them off and put them on spikes. 634 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,840 Yeah, that'll do that at the at the cemetery. 635 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,560 That'll do it so. Baby, so they didn't have it 636 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,320 wasn't a very creative name. So you just. 637 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,440 Yeah, it was. Just yeah, you know how it was 638 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,400 back in the day? It's like, oh, that, that guy no 639 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,639 baby has. Cemetery, you know. 640 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,280 Yeah, all right. Called it is. 641 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,719 Might be doing the Texas killing fields. 642 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,080 That's one of Chris's hotspots. Yeah, he loves that place. 643 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,120 He loves that place. I expressed my reservations 644 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,960 about doing it because I have a lot of reservations about doing 645 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,800 Curry. Thank us with spirits for the 646 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,560 family, you know, for you know, but he has full permission from 647 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,080 so from some of the the victims families and all that. 648 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,400 So I'm cool with that. I'm like, OK, well then that 649 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,159 works for me. Well, I think this speaks to a 650 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:57,560 bigger thing too, John. They were. 651 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,800 We're getting you out more. Well, we're getting you out more 652 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,920 this year. You know John's going to be 653 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,520 doing Mass Paracon in October. Yup, Yup. 654 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,760 A lot of people are bringing that up so that words getting 655 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,800 around, a lot of people going to Lizzie boarding house. 656 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600 He's going to Lizzie boarding house and he's going to be 657 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,000 there. I'm trying to get you some other 658 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,200 spots too before then. I'll tell you about it next week 659 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,000 and see some places close and tri-state area get you some 660 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,880 appearances, get you some some solo time and some haunted 661 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,960 locations in the in in at these events. 662 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,560 So not only to speak there, but to also get some time in a new 663 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,200 location, which I think it's great. 664 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,320 Yeah, it'd be really cool. But yeah, that's part of the 665 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,600 plan, man. Get them out there. 666 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:42,840 We've got more podcast guests and more radio, more interviews 667 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,920 and all of that stuff that we're going to be doing a little more 668 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,920 crossover things. We're just building. 669 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,000 I want to build. I want this thing to build big. 670 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,800 Yeah. There's a lot of podcasts out. 671 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,480 There's a lot of good. There's a lot of good talent out 672 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,880 there. They're really enjoying meeting 673 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,080 them and who they've and who they're talking to and, and 674 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,600 building that, really building that community out, which is. 675 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,920 And then when, when I come back from Texas, yeah, I don't want 676 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,720 to say too much about it, but we're I'm doing a little project 677 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:17,320 with Miss Jackson with the spiritual get upkeeper, which 678 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,320 we've had on as a guest. And that's going to be fun. 679 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,040 That's going to be the start of something here on Splint 680 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,440 Spirits, and we're going to have others as well. 681 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Yeah, but Miss Jackson is going to be the first one for that. 682 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,920 So, yeah, so it's, it's kind of, yeah, a little more detail. 683 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,080 We got a lot going on. We got some great ones, you 684 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,400 know, some really fun, some super fun apps and it's I'm 685 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,800 excited. I am excited about the people 686 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,280 we've got coming up. And so the oh, and after, so the 687 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,840 next episode, oh, it's Kathy. Speaking of Kathy, Kathy Nadal 688 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,000 gives me a coffee reading. Oh, that's right, to coffee 689 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,720 reading. Yeah. 690 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,400 So we went to coffee. Reading happened when you were 691 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,640 here for. Christmas, yeah, so just before 692 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,600 Christmas, so it was, we went to a place in Bronxville called 693 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,120 Coffee Unique. Really great place. 694 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,320 They were super kind. And she uses, she has a very 695 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,480 specific methodology. So you, there's two cups, you 696 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,600 have to have an espresso and it has to be a cup with a white 697 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,560 bottom. And it was funny too, cause 698 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,920 'cause she, they didn't have a white bottom cup, so she had to 699 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,160 run home and get them and then come back. 700 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,760 It's like, should we, should we use the cups from her house? 701 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,880 And then they serve Turkish coffee there. 702 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,920 And if you've never had Turkish coffee, it doesn't even really 703 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,360 taste like coffee, but it's like really like smooth and thick. 704 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,160 So after you drink it, the sludge on the bottom is where 705 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,680 she does like the reading and how it, how it like spills it's. 706 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,400 And then, you know, I got a reading from it and she just 707 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,000 like read my coffee and we're going to air the whole thing. 708 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,480 And it's super fun because, you know, and it's Kathy and now she 709 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,920 knows her, so she's even more casual. 710 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040 She gets annoyed with me when I see things that she doesn't 711 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,560 doesn't matter what I see. It matters what she sees. 712 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,320 And it's funny, but it's a it's a good one, man. 713 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,000 It's going to be really fun. I think people are going to like 714 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,400 it. And I'm sure that I'm sure the 715 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,520 skeptics are going to hate it and I love it. 716 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:15,360 You know, they're going to hate it, you know, But yeah, that'll 717 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,720 be a fun one. But Kathy's great. 718 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,280 And guys, and she wrote a book called You know, More Than 719 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,280 Clouds in your coffee. Like this is something she does. 720 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,520 You know, you get some witches and stuff. 721 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,720 They read the tea leaves. I think I have. 722 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,440 A book here. I'm sure she gave it to you, but 723 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,120 she does coffee. Yeah, she's great. 724 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,800 Kathy's one of my favourites. Was that it? 725 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,920 Oh, perfect. Yes. 726 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,360 That's it guys. You can find that Kathy's book. 727 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,080 We have a link to it in the link tree in the bio for Splintered 728 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,880 Spirits. And you can always book a 729 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,840 reading with Kathy. And if you're in trouble and you 730 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,520 really need it, she does grief counseling for free. 731 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,320 That's something that's part of what she does. 732 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,440 But for fun readings and to and to get something like this, you 733 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,000 know, hit her up. It's, it's like, it's great. 734 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,640 And I, I, I don't know, I can't go to another psychic anymore 735 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,800 like she I because I don't trust they were just just going to 736 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,320 listen to what Kathy said. Well, you could still, so you 737 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,280 could still go to other psychics. 738 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,400 I'd have to find one in like a cave somewhere. 739 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,960 No, you know, if they just repeat what Kathy says, then you 740 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,880 know they're bullshit. I guess. 741 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,040 You can. So what if they, you know, what 742 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,400 if you go to another psychic and they say something that, you 743 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,200 know, listen, all I know is this, Gary. 744 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,080 Yeah. This is a this is a great point 745 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,760 I'm about to make. I've had some tragic shit happen 746 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,280 in my life, OK, which we're not going to get into. 747 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,600 I've had some tragic shit happen in my life. 748 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,680 Guess what? Not one fucking psychic that I 749 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,520 have ever come across has ever brought it up. 750 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,640 However, one time during the spirit board, it got brought up 751 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,720 and that was wild. That was really wild. 752 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,080 But that's just a, a, a great point to also think. 753 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,880 I'm not that I'm saying that, you know, skeptics are bullshit. 754 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,920 I mean, psychics and mediums are bullshit. 755 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,560 That's not what I'm saying. Sometimes, as you know, as you 756 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,760 were getting into with the whole, like people reading 757 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,240 people, facial expressions, all that, how much does it have to 758 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,960 do with the person being read rather than the person doing the 759 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,560 reading, Right. Yeah. 760 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,560 So yeah, so many layers, man, to so many layers. 761 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,400 But there's something to there's something to the intuition of it 762 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,920 all to that that they pick up on, which I think is a thing. 763 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,720 I don't know. I want to get into more into 764 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,360 this consciousness sort of angle of this whole thing this year 765 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,680 too. I'm. 766 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,440 Trying to a lot of people, a lot of people believe that dude. 767 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,760 A lot of people believe in like the higher consciousness, the 768 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,920 complete the collective consciousness. 769 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:57,240 That's a a real, real big belief system to the people that kind 770 00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,160 of know that the basic, you know, heaven and hell, pitchfork 771 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,160 and the devil you know, thing doesn't really make sense, 772 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040 especially when you dive into the history of it. 773 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,680 But they still believe in in something. 774 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,240 They really get into this collective consciousness, you 775 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,720 know, which is really interesting theory when you 776 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,200 think about it. It's it's it's legit. 777 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:23,640 I mean, it's certainly legit, you know, So, yeah, what else is 778 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,160 there, dude? I mean, we've got I don't know. 779 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:32,760 I think it's all we're I think by I am hoping. 780 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,920 Here's what I want. I want by the end of this year 781 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:41,400 to have such a great an extended tapestry of what our spirits 782 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,960 from a lot of new voices I want us to hit. 783 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,880 I would love it if we hit the Splendid Spirits hits 10,000 784 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,800 followers on YouTube that. 'D be. 785 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,520 That'd be awesome. Come on, guys, you're watching 786 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,560 John, you're sitting there. Run over to Splintered and just 787 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,520 hit subscribe and check it out. Check out an episode. 788 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,520 You'll like it if you're into this stuff. 789 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,400 I mean, we're talking to some great people. 790 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,520 We really, really do. We. 791 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,920 Got a lot of different guests. We got a lot of different 792 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,920 guests. We're talking to a lot of great 793 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,800 people. So, you know, check it out, but 794 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,600 I would love to hit it because that would just even expand when 795 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,280 people see how we talk to people, how we give them a 796 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,320 platform, how Gary share opinions. 797 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,280 It's just. Gary, I hate to say it, I hate 798 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,200 to say it, but I'm going to say it. 799 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,720 It's also time to get the real religious side of this. 800 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,680 Oh yeah, we need a priest. Yeah, going to find a real 801 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,640 priest. We got to find a real priest. 802 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,560 Yeah, You know, one that is willing to talk. 803 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,800 I've reached out to some priest that I know, and none of them, 804 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,640 none of them were willing to do. None of them. 805 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,000 Were willing to do it. I want a real priest, not like a 806 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,680 new wage priest. No, no. 807 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,480 Like an actual yeah, yeah, yeah. I want a Roman Catholic priest, 808 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,240 yes. Well, I I can. 809 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,600 So, you know, we don't have to limit ourselves. 810 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,360 We could also, you know, Protestant. 811 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,160 Yeah. Yeah, Shelly. 812 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,800 And you know, we are an act, you know, a, a, a priest. 813 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,840 Priest, yes. It doesn't matter what 814 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,040 denomination. Yes, of Christianity it is, as 815 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,560 long as it's one of the major ones. 816 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,480 Yeah, top shelf. Yeah, we want a top shelf. 817 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,480 We want a rabbi. I'll fucking yes. 818 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,000 Even a rabbi? Dude, that'd be awesome. 819 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,000 Yeah, they don't believe in hell, they don't believe in a 820 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,720 hell, but it's an interesting. Not like, yeah, no big enough, 821 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,320 but it's a well, the demon thing feels very Christian. 822 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,600 Yeah, we'll get into it. I got another demonologist on 823 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,720 deck that I got a call that's going to be good. 824 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,280 But yeah, I want a priest too, because that you can't. 825 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,800 Just a little a little a little factoid for you all. 826 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,320 The King James Version of the Bible written by King James. 827 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,480 Did you know he was a demonologist? 828 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,240 Is there a punch line coming or is this like a statement? 829 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,640 No, just a little little factoid. 830 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,360 Little factoid. He was a demonologist. 831 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,360 The man that wrote the most common read Bible, the King 832 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,320 James Version, was a demonologist. 833 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,680 You follow what's his name, right? 834 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,480 Daniel McClellan. Yes, he's my favorite. 835 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,600 Yes, he is my favorite Bible scholar. 836 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,400 Yes. Oh, oh, yeah. 837 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Yeah. Oh, you. 838 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,160 Know what I'm talking about? The guy who always wears. 839 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,720 The guy who always wears. The comic book shirt. 840 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:29,600 The comic book shirt, dude, there's nobody better. 841 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,240 I can't nobody anybody better. He crushes everybody. 842 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,880 Everybody when he when he goes on and he when he starts talking 843 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,480 about the actual mythology of it all, dude, when he talks about 844 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,480 the preolithic, the where where Yahweh comes from. 845 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,600 Oh dude, I got a mad. Crush on that guy. 846 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,640 Tell me Joe, I got a mid crush on that guy. 847 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,880 There's there's no better start. I would love him to come on 848 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,920 here. Here's no, he's still better. 849 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,880 He's doing his book. Tour. 850 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,120 Isn't he? Yes, and he's writing. 851 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,960 He just, he's got a new book coming out too. 852 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,040 His book is phenomenal. This guy, everybody comes down 853 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,840 from evangelicals and they'll go, they start out. 854 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,400 This statement is like the Bible says and he just he goes, all 855 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,400 right, let's hear it, let's hear it and then and then he just and 856 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,760 then he goes at a 10 minute thing of such educated and 857 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,760 specific excellence that this man is a champion. 858 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,040 There is he's the greatest. Yep, Yep. 859 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,320 I'd love him to come on and talk about demons and what it all the 860 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160 the real. Dude, just hearing him talk 861 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,120 about just the whole back. Story. 862 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,080 I got where this came from. I'm going to nag him. 863 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,040 I'm going to nag him. I hope he doesn't hate me by the 864 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,440 time it's done, but I've got to get him out and talk to us about 865 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,480 it. Yeah, I thought that would be 866 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,760 such a great episode. Yeah, and I know Sean Austin, 867 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,240 Sean Austin is on my list. Thank you for that name. 868 00:45:53,240 --> 00:46:02,520 But yes, I know Sean Austin is a friend of the Ghost Sisters who 869 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,080 we just had on. So yeah, they, they're, they're 870 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,920 hooking me up. I'm going to try. 871 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,680 Hopefully I'll get Sean on. He's another guy who's great. 872 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,200 I think Sean's got a lot to like. 873 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,920 It'd be wonderful to talk to because Sean invents. 874 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,520 He uses apps, he invents apps. He's a demon, I think. 875 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,080 Interesting to dare about because he he invented an app 876 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,120 that uses AI. Yeah, and I find that 877 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,880 interesting. However, if you figure out what 878 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,880 his app is and she should test it out, see how it works. 879 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,600 However, the AI thing, I have my own reservations on it, not 880 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,000 because I think it's bullshit, because we don't, we don't know 881 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,840 what ghosts are, let alone what happens when you interject 882 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,360 something like AI. It's in the equation. 883 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,480 It's almost like sitting there like, hey, let's pour this into 884 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,360 this and this into this. It could be, you know, it could 885 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,320 be completely harmless or it could be devastating. 886 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,360 It all depends, you know. It all depends. 887 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,680 Boston Boston 19 Boston 19. What is paps? 888 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,440 Is that Sean's app? No paps. 889 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,200 I believe they're a they they they probably won't come out 890 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,040 because they're really good friends with a creator that 891 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,920 unfortunately dislikes me for a lot for for who knows why but. 892 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,480 Tell me, tell me about it off here then. 893 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they, they won't. 894 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,680 I doubt they'll come on. OK, Yeah, we're not hurting for 895 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,760 guests. So it's like we want, we want 896 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,280 to. Wouldn't mind if they came on. 897 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,720 I liked them. But you know, you know how it 898 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:43,960 goes in this business. Tell me you'll tell me about it 899 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,920 later. Tell me about it offline. 900 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,120 No, it's the female paranormal group. 901 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,160 Oh, I see. I like these full female 902 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,400 paranormal groups. That's why I. 903 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,320 Like a lot of them. But that's why I like the Ghost 904 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,680 sisters. You know, family business 905 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,760 there's. I, I don't and, and I have to 906 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,080 say this, I have to cause 'cause I've been noticing this a lot. 907 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,520 There seems to be this whole, this is a, a, a, a male 908 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:18,800 dominated industry. Maybe it used to be, maybe it 909 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,000 used to be, but it's not anymore. 910 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:28,160 There are so many females within the paranormal, it's not even 911 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,080 funny. These groups are popping up 912 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,560 everywhere and some of them have been around for a while. 913 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,520 Yeah, it's pretty wild. It's pretty wild. 914 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,760 There's there's, there's a lot of them. 915 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,680 There is a lot of them. Listen, why is everybody in the 916 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,120 chat? Why is everybody chat saying hi, 917 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,240 Gary, I've been here the whole time. 918 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:44,400 Is there another Gary in the chat? 919 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,160 If there is, I'm sorry if there can be only one. 920 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,760 Is it Gary Carpenter? Because that's a Gary that 921 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,560 always comes with a wide piece. Yeah. 922 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,200 Listen, Gary, I appreciate you there, but this guy's now your 923 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,360 name is now Carpenter. Carpenter. 924 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,160 That's it. You'll be more 5 minutes. 925 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,400 You will refer you will refer to Gary Carpenter as Carpenter or 926 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,800 carp. You will not call him Gary. 927 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,920 It confuses the host. So go forth. 928 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,440 Best be known. You are now dub Sir Carp or 929 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,960 Carpenter, but you are no longer Gary. 930 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,280 In this chat. There can be only one good one. 931 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440 All right, all right, dude, listen, that's all I got for 932 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,360 today. You got more to discuss, We got 933 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,560 no. Well, just real quick, real 934 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,120 quick, before we head off, 2 things are happening tonight. 935 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,360 Yes, two things #1 Gary is going to be on barely scripted with 936 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,160 Stark and Soko. That's that's a TikTok. 937 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:43,120 That is a TikTok exclusive live with Jolly from Soko and Cody 938 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,160 Stark from Stark Paranormal, but under his Barely on script. 939 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,280 Barely on script, Yep. Header. 940 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,680 But you can just go to Splinter Spirits. 941 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,520 I'll be there. That's where I'm at. 942 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,480 So you go to Splinter Spirits, you're going to see me live. 943 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,440 I'm going to rap with those guys. 944 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,680 That's going to be in an hour, so around 9:00 PM Eastern. 945 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,280 Which is really good for those who cannot handle the crazy shit 946 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:11,520 that's happening at 83830. We are doing a special live 947 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:17,440 stream in the abandoned side of the breakfast date and I know 948 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,200 that place is a little heavy for some people so if it's too heavy 949 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,320 that's OK, you won't offend me. Put on your big boy pants. 950 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,280 Yeah, go check out Gary and and start the Soco but. 951 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,200 Go check out, go check out, go check out the, you know, the 952 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,800 abandoned side. And then when you're, when 953 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,600 you've pooped your pants in 30 minutes, come on over. 954 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,600 Clean up first, clean up over to splitters 'cause I'm going to be 955 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,520 on with those guys for a bit. They like to talk and I like 956 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,160 hanging out with them. I like those guys quite a bit. 957 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,840 They're fun to rap too. So listen, that's all I got. 958 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,800 Thank you guys. Remember to like hit that 959 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,840 subscribe button. Hit that like button. 960 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,600 I appreciate all these comments. Hit that hype button. 961 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,000 Watch wherever you know you're getting your podcast. 962 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,440 Spread the word. We got a good thing going. 963 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,840 So big. I think your hand does. 964 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,200 Yeah, look at that. What are you doing? 965 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,920 Of all the things he's lost it guys, he's awesome. 966 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,800 He's gone off the reservation. That's it. 967 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,120 I'm losing it. He's lost. 968 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,240 It's the lighting. It's that new damn light. 969 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,520 It's a new damn light. I thank you all for being here 970 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,640 today. Thank you so much. 971 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,280 Have a wonderful weekend and we will see you next Thursday. 972 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,560 Or will we? Or is that you're in? 973 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,560 I'm in Texas. I'm in Texas. 974 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,240 It all it it. It all depends. 975 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,200 Well, I'll be here live next Thursday. 976 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,800 We'll just see what happens or how we play it. 977 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,800 Yeah, well, if if I do go live, I'll have Nezel with me. 978 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,760 You know, if I oh, maybe if he, if he can, if he's free, Yeah. 979 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,440 You know, that's a busy week for him. 980 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,160 So who? Knows that's that's that's the 981 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,760 whole thing. I don't know what's going on the 982 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,120 day before. The IT would be great to have 983 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,720 Nezel back on because we never showed his, his ghost evidence 984 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:05,680 is one of the coolest that that smoke walk is by far one of the 985 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,400 greatest catches I've ever seen. And I know we've got and guys 986 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,080 and listen, if you're watching and the person who submitted, I 987 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,560 know we got another ghost story on there. 988 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,040 I just haven't had a chance Again, I'm travelling. 989 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,360 This week. So I will look at that hopefully 990 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,360 we'll if John makes it or not and that's something we can talk 991 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,200 about next week on the live. Yeah, I'll let you know Gary. 992 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,000 I'll let you know when it gets closer to if that's the thing 993 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,480 you know. Right on, right on. 994 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,320 So all righty perfect. All right, guys. 995 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,240 Thank. You so much for watching 996 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,400 Splintered Spirits. We appreciate you. 997 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:38,320 Have a great evening. All right, buddy, I'll see you. 998 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,000 Well, that's it for another episode of Splintered Spirits. 999 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,840 Be sure to like, share and subscribe to our YouTube 1000 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,040 channel, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1001 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,480 Until next time, stay curious.