Drag is just me being a clown. It's maybe going out and making
people laugh and having a lot of fun.
And, and a lot of people out there think that like drag
Queens are grooming children to become drag Queens.
But honestly, like that has nothing to do with any of it.
My son is never once asked to put a wig on or asked to be a
drag queen. But when my son sees me leave
the house and drag, he he always tells me it's beautiful, which
is so cute. Like that means so much to me.
And it's just so sad that there's such an attack on drag
right now. And people saying that drag
Queens and children don't mash well together, because they
absolutely do. But.
The context is different when you're doing drag with a child
versus doing drag with an adult crowd.
And I don't think that people know that that line is there or
they do know and they just don't give a shit.
And it sucks to me because I have this child who is so
beautiful and wonderful and he's so in love with, you know,
everything and everyone. And leaving the house with
Dragon being told or Papa, you look handsome, or Papa, you look
beautiful. Like hearing that is the best
thing. Before you leave a house, did
you go to a show? And I feel like I don't get that
kind of love from people, like normal adult people.
And he inspires me to do drag. We watch Drag Race together and
he's always like, what are you going to do this?
When are you going to do that? Papa and I'm just like.
I. Don't know.
I don't. I don't want to compete.
Like, I'm not a dancer, I'm a comedian and I do fun stuff and
Drag Race just doesn't always work out for those types of
people. And so I told him I'm like, I'm
working on my own thing, dude. And you'll see me someday on TV,
but it's just not going to be in this show we watch together.
And. It.
Makes me so sad to know that in the world right now that drag is
under such scrutiny and people are trying to take this
beautiful art form and turn it into a thing of hate.
And there's nothing hateful about drag.
Drag is about beauty. Drag is about entertaining.
Drag is about laughter. Drag a spell in love.
Welcome to Splintered Spirits. I'm your host Gary along with my
nephew John Santa from Santa Paranormal.
Today's guest is a New Hampshire native who lives the state motto
Live free or die to the fullest and does not compromise on who
she is. Monique Too soon is the ghostess
with the mostess and the self crowned world's most unique
trigger object. As a drag queen paranormal
investigator with over 20 years in entertainment, Monique is
redefining this predominantly rigid black tea wear and male
field by fusing glamour and glitter into ghost hunting.
But you're going to see what John and I see.
And that Monique is not just going for shock value.
Just because she wants to have fun in these haunted locations
doesn't mean her investigative work is any less credible.
Monique is to ghost hunting what Elle Woods illegally blonde is
to the law. She's a bad ass and here to
discuss her work investigating iconic locations like The
Conjuring House in Wilson Castle, her books, and how her
high energy drag persona acts as a beacon for spiritual activity.
Let's dive into the conversation.
All right, Monique, welcome to the Splintered spirits.
Hi, thanks for having me. Oh my God, this is so fun.
I I have to tell you, I love when I who was the Heidi Kemper
was another guest of ours, told us about it.
And when I looked it up, I was like, OK, this is a person who
is disrupting the norm. And that's what I think, John, I
think you agree with me. We.
Kind of. Oh I agree 100% and I love it
kind. Of love, the stat like the this
anti status quo of what is perceived to be a ghost hunter
and what that all means and how that all set out to go, you
know, to, to go about it. So, you know, just to get into
it. So you, you, you call yourself
the, the ghostess with the mostess, right.
But, you know, take us back a little bit, Monique, to, to the
beginning of how this started for you.
I mean, did you grow up in a in a spooky household?
Did you grow up in New Hampshire or or did this or did paranormal
find you later? Yeah, I grew up in New Hampshire
and my parents house was pretty haunted that I grew up in.
I was sensitive to spirit back then and I don't think I
realized what I was sensitive to back then.
When you, when you're a kid, you kind of you get freaked out by
everything. So you don't really focus in and
learn how to use that until you're older.
But when I was a kid, experienced stuff at my mom's
house and I started doing paranormal stuff and I was in my
20s more, not so much. I mean, I'm 42 now.
So I've been doing paranormal for about 20 years and I, I
didn't start ghost hunting and drag until COVID.
And I've been doing drag for 20 years and paranormal for 20
years. But I never like had this aha
moment of do with them together, see what happens.
And then COVID, I, I couldn't go to a bar anymore and drag
because, you know, like I'm not putting a mask over a freshly
beautiful fight face and it walked around covered.
So I ended up going ghost hunting and drag during COVID at
a place local here in Massachusetts called the SK
Pierce Mansion. And I ended up getting an EVP
that night and it said he's a lady.
And I was like, immediately the ghosts are like making fun of
me. They're they're sassing me.
And I'm like, this changes everything because not only are
the ghosts more interactive when I'm in drag, they say different
things than they do when I'm at a location and not in drag.
So like I get wigs a lot, lashes, heels, they hit on me.
They told me they wanted to have sex with me.
That's on TikTok. There's a video of them, like
where I was like, I was in this place where there's like sailors
everywhere and I could feel this energy.
There's a lot of war artifacts. And I'm like, if you could do
anything you wanted to do to me right now, what would you do?
And sex, sex, sex, sex comes right out of the radio clear as
say, everyone's screaming one of the best things that ever
happened. And, you know, ghost hunting and
drag. It's like, think of taking like
the highest form of energy you can and then throwing it into a
location that has never seen that high form of energy.
And now it's like a whole new investigation that the spirits
don't know what to do with me just as much as humans don't.
It it's what look you're leading it to my next.
I usually would. I asked this to all our guests,
but this is a perfect time to ask because you brought it up.
What do you think the spirits? What do you think spirits are?
What do you think they are? Because you're using energy a
lot. Yeah, I, I think spirits are
energy that have moved on. And I believe that there's
different kinds of spirits. I believe there are spirits that
weren't human ever. And I believe that there are
spirits that have moved on and just come and visit.
And then we have ghosts that are kind of stuck here on this, on
this 3D planet we're on. And energy is different for
everyone too. Every medium reads it
differently. I, I get things differently than
other mediums too. But I believe ghosts are just
our, our, our remnants and our memories and our some of our
energy that's kind of behind that we can communicate with
and. Do you have?
Were you ghost hunting when you weren't in drag and did you
notice the significant difference?
Yeah, so when I wasn't in drag, we always had great nights
still. And we use a lot of tools.
I'm an equipment nerd. So like I have got like 20 K
worth of ghost hunting equipment and Oh yeah, I am.
I'm a Syria you. If you come ghost hunting with
me I will pull out a whole table full of expensive stuff.
And what's your? What's your go to?
Oh man, I love tripwire, which is like ghost Christmas lights.
I love anything that is bright and shiny and pretty that I can
like make different than any other ghost hunter in this
world. I'm going to do like I have a
robot that I use like a MIP. Just so many cool radios that I
use different forms of radios. I I scry as well, so I can like
look through mirrors and see things.
So I have a scrying mirror that I bring on location with me.
But. Yeah.
Tools. Tools are definitely my thing.
I I use my gift as well but I'm more of a tool person.
OK, All right. So you I I read you mentioned,
you know, that your drag persona was inspired by Elvira.
Yes. And did you always see that
Natural Bridge sort of between the world of camp horror and
actual paranormal investigation? I know you said you decided
during COVID to combine the two, to combine the two things, but
what what was it? What was that aha moment?
I don't even know what the aha moment was.
It was boredom for me, really. Elvira had just been someone I
was inspired by as a kid. As a kid, I was obsessed with
all the Hollywood blondes like Pamela Anderson, Jenny McCarthy,
all the women in Hollywood that were getting attention for the
wrong reasons. I guess, you know, that kind of
was my and Elvira to me had this sense of confidence about her
and she could just sit on that couch and host this movie and
nobody would not respect her because of how confident and how
quick and funny she was. And I, I inspired to be her, her
a lot in drag. And that's why I started doing
drag with Elvira and I started out hosting.
And that's the thing about Elvira that I wanted to do.
I wanted to sit on the couch. I wanted to talk about movies or
host. And that's how I became the
Hostess with the mostest. And then when I started ghost
hunting, we switched it to the ghostess with the mostest.
And but Elvira was the, was the complete and total inspiration
for that. And still to this day like I
have never even met her in person.
Every time I've gone to meet her I I end up sick or she cancels
something. Always happens every time I have
a ticket. Oh my God, we got to figure that
out. Yeah.
In front of Elvira. That would be wonderful.
Do you, do you find that you have double the prep work for
your, you know, for your investigations because you know,
your, your, your, your makeup's on point, right?
So that takes skill and time and then you have to prep for your
investigation. So what's what's that like?
Yeah, so usually I pack everything for the investigation
first. I'm OCD, so I got to make sure
everything is lined up and in the car.
And then I usually get ready at location 'cause I want to see
how Spirit reacts to the fact that I'm getting ready in their
room too. I have a castle up here that I
get ready and then I get ready in the in the woman who built
the castle's room and I've actually felt her presence in
there while I'm getting ready. And I almost feel like she
appreciates the fact that I'm using her mirror and and her
things. But I spend an hour and a half
just getting ready for the investigation, not including
unpacking, setting up everything and preparing for the night.
So on top of any other investigator that's throwing on
a black shirt and a pair of jeans, just.
That's exactly right. Yeah.
Hold on. The get ready.
Yeah, the get ready. Yeah, The get ready, get ready.
With me. Look, for the most part, is the
black T-shirt. Cross your arms.
Yeah, and we're, and you're not really given the the spirits
anything to react to at that point too, 'cause I will tell
you one of the coolest things that happens to me is I wear
different colored dresses to every event.
Like I had a whole bunch design just for ghost hunting and the
ghost will actually comment on the color of my dress.
They'll put in requests for colors that I wear next time
over radios where guests are listening and they're like, they
just told you to wear red. And I'm like, I will, I'll wear
it next time. And then I'll wear red the next
time. And the spirits will react to
the fact that I actually wore that red dress for them.
I love it like the all right, so this is what I want to get into
this with you because this is what the disruptor that you are
and you refer to yourself as a as the world's most unique
trigger object, you know, So break that down for for for
listeners right now. Why do?
Why do you consider yourself that?
I'm the well, first, I was the first drag queen I believe ever
to step into a haunted location and go investigating and drag.
Second, it's disrupting because I am the highest form of energy
there is. I created this trigger object
accidentally just by going ghost hunting and drag, and I didn't
realize when I did it that first time just how explosive.
It changes every investigation. Like when we're there, we still
get great stuff when I go investigating as a guy, but when
I'm in drag it's just almost like, it's almost like I spill
EMF into a location and it just can feed off of that.
I'm very disruptive. If you want to change the course
of an investigation or ATV show, throw a drag queen in it.
Is it, do you feel, Monique, that it's because of you?
Like when you're in this, when you're in this persona, in your
drag queen persona, does it give you that lift of energy?
It's not just the it's not just the look of the outfit.
Is it for spirits? Is it?
Is it all? It's internal for you, right?
Like you, are you preparing? Am I like what's the?
Question The look is feeding. The look is giving us something
to play with and talk about. And and you know, it's kind of a
costume. If you showed up to an
investigation dressed up in costume, they would probably
react to the costume too. But it's an internal energy.
There's just definitely a huge spike of of energy that comes
out when you're dressed in drag. It's like putting on a new a
whole new person and you get to like leave and you just get to
be someone else and it's very freeing.
So it's almost like alleviating my brain of anything that I
would have taken to that investigation with me.
I'm putting on a completely different person that I'm just
investigating as do. You go by yourself or do you go
with other people? And I usually host events now
I've become a little niche market up here and I'm doing
like sold out events all over New England.
I host them in drag. They can come scream with this
queen and experience the you know the the best trigger object
ever in person. Well, you know, you know, I, I
gotta say when you know, you're calling yourself a trigger
object, right? And definitely, definitely more
of a trigger person, right? Even though I get it right,
obviously, but it's just amazing because I can back this up 100%.
I can back it even up even way more.
Think about it like this. You take spirits from the 1800s,
right? We're gonna throw it out there.
1800s. How many of them have had
desires, lusts, things that were taboo back in the day that they
couldn't express? And then here you come, you
know, and you're just like awakening all of that, all those
feelings, all those desires, all that lust.
It's pretty wild. I've noticed it just dealing
with spirits. I've had a lot of spirits hit on
me, both male and female, right? And it and it and it and it's
wild. So I can only imagine what it's
like to be in a room with you while speaking to spirits.
You know they must look at you and go, wow, I can.
Maybe I can be myself. Did we actually had a location,
Sweet Springs Sanitarium in West Virginia?
They don't actually do investigation anymore, but I
wasn't even in drag for this one.
But we were drawn to the women's corridor or the men's corridor
there. And, and if you knew anything
about Sweet Springs, they had a men's corridor or women's
corridor and then they had like the staff corridor and there's
300 and something rooms in this building.
It's shaped like the letter E and it's, it's massive.
We got lost in there so many times this night.
But in the men's corridor, I kept getting told to go to a
room and one specific room in this whole hallway.
And so we go to this room and I'm like, I thought, they're not
gonna leave me alone unless we go in this room.
We go to the room and we're just like looking around and this
place has got like, it almost looks like it was just left
behind, like everyone picked up and just left with what they
could grab. Well, inside this room was very
large, tall sized women's clothes and there was like
little Knick knacks and there was like newspaper articles
about cross dressing. And I'm like, Oh my God, there
was someone here institutionalized for cross
dressing and they're like making me come to their room right now
because they see that in me and they want me to like possibly
get that story out of them. So I've been wanting to go back
since in drag and see if I can get led to that exact same room
and if he'll give me more. That's wild.
That is, Yeah. I mean, have you ever felt a
spirit was confused? Mm hmm.
Yeah, definitely you. Get that a lot.
Yeah, and, and, and and gender is something that's is more
talked about nowadays than it was.
And like you said, in any time period, like what I'm doing
right now probably would have put me in a mental hospital in
the 1950s easily. For real though.
Unfortunately, yeah. Unfortunately, yeah.
And I've investigated mental hospitals and dragon.
I mean, the energy there can be really wacky when I'm there.
It like it's so weird. Have you done a 5050 yet?
Have you done like, like half the night, you know, not in drag
and then be like, all right, everybody, I'll be right back
and then come, you know, right back in dressed up.
Yeah. So most of my events, I change
around one or two in the morning and I'll continue to investigate
with the guests and until like 3 o'clock 4:00 in the morning
until I really crash. But I have to warn my guests
that I'm going to change because this and me as a boy are nothing
alike. And I have to like warn people
because I've actually scared people and they've tried to
like, report me to people that work at my events.
And they're like, some creepy guy just showed up.
And I'm like, Oh my God, this is hyster.
I look like Pee Wee Herman as a boy.
Oh. My.
God, Paul Rubin, you look like Paul Rubin.
Yeah, a lot of people will be like, you look like Pee Wee
Herman, but people just don't. They don't get it.
So I have to warn everybody at the beginning of every event
that I'm going to take this off at some point and this random
guy is just going to show up. But there's the whole vibe must
chant, right 'cause I mean, that must.
The energy that you talk about really is not just from you at
that point, right? The energy is also from your
guests and the people with you. There's certainly hanging out
with the drag queen and your big personality and this persona is
going to be, you know, I bet the party drops at one of the
markets. It's like, listen, I'm taking
this wig off, I'm coming back. Everything goes down, right?
And it's got to be a whole different vibe.
Which then have you noticed, right?
Has the investigations gotten a little?
Do they get a little lame at that point?
Not lame, but they definitely can get quieter.
But I find that happens even when I'm not in dragon
locations. I feel like they, we're going to
get like a really good hour of stuff I feel every night and
then we're going to have about 5 hours of, you know, little
things or quiet things. But it doesn't, it doesn't tell
us ahead of time when that hour is going to be.
So it can, it's usually when I'm in drag, obviously, but it can
also be later in the night too. After I change.
Typically after I get out of drag, my energy level is
dropping because I'm exhausted. I walk around in heels and
platforms and covered in. Makeup.
Hold on, hold on. How is it walking around in
heels at some of these locations?
Some of them don't let me wear heels Yeah, I started wearing
platforms because they don't want or restored floors too and
they don't want me to scratch the floors with the guilt.
So I'll wear platforms to those events.
But yeah, it's I, I, I, I want any ghost hunter that's on TV
right now to get in drag and go ghost hunting and tell me how
uncomfortable and miserable. They are, they have to be.
I would be. I'm I'm sorry.
That's why when you said heels, I was like, whoa.
That's all you're. Not wearing sneakers, you know,
like. Without heels I'm 510, so with
heels I'm a little over 6 foot. Right, right.
It's a, it's a, it's a vision. It's amazing.
Yeah. I walk in.
I walk in this all the time at locations I've bumped my head on
things pipes. Jesus.
I don't do anything for a reaction too.
Oh, my God. So, you know, look, this
community that we're in, right? There's a lot of skeptics, and
they like things scientific and sterile, where you like glamour
and glitter. And the paranormal community,
the field as as a whole can feel rigid.
You know? Everyone's real set in their
ways, you know? How has your experience been
with the community? I would say like 50, fifty, 50%
positive. There are a lot of what I've
noticed is a lot of gay people in the community, but they're
kind of closeted, which is kind of, you know, back in the day
for me, I'm not used to seeing people really closeted.
And it's a very straight male bit industry, the paranormal.
You don't really see any of the gay people on TV either.
If they are on TV, you're almost very unaware that they're gay at
all. They don't talk about it.
They've never really presented it that way.
I've had people laugh in my face at paracons, like celebrities,
like full blown paranormal celebrities just laugh at me.
I've had them stop me from getting bookings.
I've had locations legit just say we will not work with you.
We don't want that on our on our website.
We don't want, we don't want any of the press that we'll get for
this. I've, I've been shot down.
Like I've, I've literally begged to get into places.
There are locations that I want to go to so bad but they refuse.
To, to allow this. And there was a I'd lost a
booking in Tennessee one year because they were trying to make
drag illegal in Tennessee. So the people were like, we're
afraid you might get arrested if you go out in public here.
So we're just going to cancel until this all settles down.
And I'm like, what the fuck is going on with the world?
Well, Monique, listen, listen, if you're ever in New York and
you want to come on a little, you know, a little ghost
adventure with me, you are welcome to drag or not, I don't
care. You can look however you want
and I am down SO. Why do you think that it why do
you think that's the that's the look?
I mean, you know, is there going to be serious?
Yeah. But what do you think 'cause I
mean look, I mean, does it really stem back?
Here's my theory Look, you know, it's like, I don't I don't know,
I don't know the taps guys, but I mean they're really the first
guys, right? They they came out on TV and and
it was it was the blue collar guy, right?
It was plumbers, you know, who are ghost hunting.
So they, they set the standard for it, whereas before them,
what was it? It was like almost nerds, right?
Just like scientists and parapsychologists were straight
up nerds with like a pen and book.
Then they come out and it's like we got gear and EMF, but we're
plumbers. And that might have.
And that's what spawned a lot of the look and the idea that you
need tech and all that stuff. I don't know.
What do you think? Do you think that's really still
rooted to there with that? I really.
Do if I mean if you look at any of the paranormal TV, even on
all the apps where the contents being created, it's almost like
it's got a blueprint and it's almost identical.
Even the girls that are in the paranormal, the women, even
there's trans people as well, even a lot of them are, are
doing it the exact same way. They're all wearing black,
they're all wearing, you know, they all have their tool kits
and their, their, their toolbox that they walk in with.
And there's no color in the paranormal world.
There's no, there's no glitter. There's, there's, there's
nothing. It's so serious and like
paranormal is serious and it should be taken seriously.
We should be respecting the dead and every, everything on the
other side. But there's also an element of
fun there. Yeah, we're shooting.
We're shooting. I was like.
Yeah, exactly. I was going to correct you on
that. It's like there's you could be,
you could take your you could take the the field seriously,
but you could still have fun with it.
That doesn't diminish what we're talking about.
But yeah, like marginalized voices, you know, in this
community, I mean, even like African Americans too, it's like
what? There's the ghost brothers.
Marginalized groups in this in this genre are few and far
between. Or like you said, they're
they're keeping quiet about it. And I love the fact that you're
so open about it. And I'm trying to force my way
in. I keep telling people I'm like,
you may not want to work with me now, but if something does take
off because there are, there are things in places that tomorrow
morning could turn me into a completely different person, you
know? And people will be begging me to
be at their events and doing stuff with them at this point.
Just keep doing you. And if you doing you, don't
change. Keep being you.
It was like when I started all you.
I like to joke around with my community, laugh, have fun, and
everybody just hated me for it. I just kept doing me, you know
now and now and that and now. Look, just keep doing you, who
cares about everybody else? I care about the individual
right? Not the community as a whole.
And you're a prime example of that.
Cuz you are awesome. Well, John gets a lot of heat.
John gets a lot of heat because a lot of people think he's out
there being a ghost investigator or a ghost hunter.
And that's the one thing he's very and they don't listen to
him because he clearly always says, I'm not a ghost hunter.
I document, I just talk to him. I do my thing, but I
communicate. I'm not here to investigate and
any of that. But they never listen to that
part. So they always disavow what he's
doing or what he says is evidence.
They don't buy into it or any of that shit, which is always
strange to me. It's like, who cares?
Number one, you know? So it's yeah.
When you look, when you're out there, Monique, with this, you
know, as I mean, you really are sort of a pion.
You are this pioneer in for the for your community.
And so do you feel, do you feel like a burden or is it a
responsibility now for you to represent the LGBTQ community in
the paranormal space? Or is it more of your primary
goal to find ghosts? Like how do you balance that?
So I don't even really know what my primary objective is anymore
at this point. I think I've started to get
relaxed doing what I'm doing. And I think for the past couple
of years I was chasing the the Hollywood dream of it all
because I was getting a lot of those clicks.
For a couple of years I filmed like 5 or 6 different TV shows
that never went anywhere and they were all about me and what
I'm doing and how I'm changing things.
And it's just, it seems like nobody wants to pick it up.
Nobody wants anything different, and that is really where it's
coming from. A lot of people are saying
they're too conservative for this kind of entertainment, like
their entertainment should be fun.
Right, this shouldn't be a thing about look.
You're talking to somebody. I used to work at Discovery.
I worked there for like 10 years, right?
The studio side of things. So you're talking about it.
You know, that network and those people and those shows are very
Bible Belt, Middle America. It is the working man sort of
thing, right? So all the ghost shows, it's to
to to figure out how to you breakthrough.
Like where, where do I program you in this serious, serious,
serious, funny, serious, serious, like like how do I sell
it, you know, And then is it because the audience for
paranormal is very similar to the audience for true crime?
It's almost like the same sort of thing, right?
Those people who like one usually like the other and
they're very audience for it. So but when you try to change
the tone for it, it's hard. They don't know what they don't
know what to do. They just don't know what to do.
They know that they can't keep their eyes off you.
You make them smile and laugh. They just don't know where to
put you on the schedule. So it's better to try to figure
it out on your, in my opinion, figure it out on your own, which
is kind of, you know, how this, you know, it's one of those
things what when it comes to, you know, so outside of ghost
hunting, I mean, is horror like a vibe for you because of
Elvira? Like what's going on behind you
here? What's all that stuff?
Is it like, you know, is it still part of your universe?
Yeah, horror is horror is pretty much all I watch.
I'm I've been obsessed with horror since I was like 7 years
old. So I've grown up a bit.
The rest of my room is covered in ghosts.
I'm I'm very obsessed with ghosts, Legos.
I love video games. I'm the biggest nerd outside of
drag. I'm Barbie and drag and I am
you. Definitely the nerd outside of
it. Oh, I'm the biggest pussy with
horror. I cannot, I, I get terrified my
wife will put on it. She wants she'll put on
something scary. And then she sits there with her
phone like secretly like this to help me while I'm gripping my
dog and yelling at the screen and like everything that
happens, I'm like, this is insane.
We talk about this. I'm like what?
Like the last horror movie I went to the theater to see was
The Grudge and I was terrified. That movie I.
Felt like I ran a. Marathon I felt like I ran a
marathon and then the second scariest thing I've seen a long
time was the the Haunting of Hill House on Netflix, which was
terrifying and I believe has the greatest jump scare in history
within it. What do you think's scary?
What's what's what scares you Anything or what?
What's your what's the? Much nothing I I horror movie
wise. Stuff that bothers me is more
like the guttural like stuff that feels real like Midsummer.
Like I feel like there's a cult out there somewhere actually
doing this. Like.
I Swedes, right? I never thought I had to be
afraid of Swedes before and now I then I saw Midsummer and I'm
like, Nope, there's they're no good.
They're definitely. In the woods, anywhere and
nowhere where there's any kind of festival happening.
No I anything cult related. I, I love horror, but like, none
of it really scares me. But cult stuff, definitely.
I don't know, there's something to me that it's truly terrifying
that so many people can follow and believe something so truly.
Welcome to America. The biggest cult in the world
right now. And it literally, it's just,
it's so weird to me how and it's so true to these people like
watching like the kool-aid cult with, you know, Jim Jones and
all that back. They believed this stuff.
And like, to me, it's like, how do you get to that point in your
head where you start to like, it's scary to me.
Yeah, I don't like. Torture.
Broken human mind, you know. I don't like torture porn
movies. Like I don't like the Saw movie.
I especially don't like them. Like, I'm not even going in, you
know, like hostile and saw and anything like that, like human,
like anything that's that's just that stuff is just gross for
gratuitously gross. I don't find it scary, you know?
I like it all. What did you say?
Did you see weapons? Yeah, I didn't think that was
scary. I.
Didn't think it was scary, but and I didn't think I got to be
honest, I didn't think it was worth the hype.
John, did you see weapons yet? I.
Didn't see weapons right now. I've been watching Welcome to
Dairy. Oh, I haven't seen it yet.
I don't, I don't find it scary, but I think it's awesome.
I think they're I think they're doing a great job with the
storytelling, you know, tying it all in and whatnot.
And to the whole Stephen King legacy with all his books.
And there's a lot of cool stuff. If you if you read Stephen King
and you watch Welcome to Dairy, you're like, are they
referencing what I think I think they're referencing?
Are they bringing up The Shining or are they bringing up and
you're like. Dude, I'm a, I'm a straight
white guy. Of course I love Stephen King as
a teenager. That's what we did in high
school at 15. You know we we read Stephen King
as like our first books. Yeah, dude, I used to.
I used to pull down your books off your bookshelf and read them
when I would when I go over to yeah.
When it was different reading them and then now as I'm older I
can't watch them. Then once I had kids forget I
get scared even more. But weapons, I thought weapons
was a little the the marketing was genius.
Because you. Didn't know what it was, but
then you watch it and as AI have AI have a lot of friends who are
writers right, and they and they told me he's like he didn't know
what the movie was. So it's like he only had, he
had, if he's when you I'm, I'm not going to spoil any plot
points, but basically what happened is he got to a certain
point and then in the movie they start to retell the same thing
from different points of view. Yeah, because he didn't know
what to do. So the writer doesn't know what
to do. So it's like he just retells the
thing with from different points of view.
And then it wraps up and you're just like, oh, that's what it
is. It's just a monster.
You know, whatever it is, you know it's like this.
And that's what killed me about it, the three stories.
I'm like, we didn't need a whole hour of extra stories that
didn't actually go very further into a different story.
Yeah, and it wasn't scary. I agree.
It was just so. Monique, if you if you would
have picked a a place like what's your dream place to go
and investigate? Oh, and this hasn't happened
yet. Not even once anywhere.
I have not been in a prison in drag yet, but my dream Alcatraz.
Alcatraz. Yeah, I want to do the escape
route in drag. I want to crawl through the wall
and like, escape the prison in full drag.
Ghost hunting. Like Nicholas Cage.
Yes, but I want to be the first drag queen in Alcatraz.
I want to go into Alcatraz and see what happens to me.
Have you ever just gone just to visit Alcatraz in drag?
Yes, I have definitely been in a prison before.
Not, not Alcatraz, but I went to West Virginia State, Penn, but
I've never, I have never even been over near Alcatraz.
I'm planning on going to Winchester next year or the year
after so I will definitely do a tour when I'm there.
I don't think Alcatraz would really want a ghost hunting drag
queen there if I called him anathem, but.
I don't see why not. It's remember, remember where it
is. It's San Francisco.
True. I, I, you know.
That and and listen, anybody with a business mind that knows
that your money is green, you know, and I mean, so I try
anyway. That's it's, no, it's a great,
it is a great. I've been Alcatraz a bunch of
times for tours. I, I don't, I don't ghost
investigate, but it's like I'm not going to sit there at night
and that's, that's just not for me.
I'm going. To I'd watch you guys do it.
I would do it. Alone and drag I just to be in
there. So outside of ghost hunting you,
you host, you still host like ghost and glitter and check out
my equipment or are those past shows or new shows or?
No, I haven't done anything with Check out my Equipment in a
Little While and Ghost and Glitter.
I had planned on doing a second season and this year I got
really busy with events. I ended up having a lot of
events this year in just a lot less time.
So like really outside of drag, I own a hair salon.
I also am a realtor, so you know, I do a lot of stuff.
I'm a parent. I do drag shows here and there
still, but the ghost hunting stuff is kind of like my
passion, my love, the thing I really enjoy doing.
What's the what's the ultimate goal then for you money for for
your brand? I honestly I'm.
Just having fun and seeing where it goes and I'm just going to
keep being me and building my brand and if people want it,
great, come and get it. And if they don't, then I'm just
going to explode glitter on them regardless.
There you go. So what about what about the
drag community? How does the drag community feel
about what you do or other people that are?
Yeah. I've had a couple of drag Queens
reach out that want to come go hunting.
I've actually found a gay paranormal investigator that
also does drag that I'm going to do an event with next summer and
we're going to, we're going to see what happens with two drag
Queens. But most of the ones around here
that know me, like they all were like, oh, I would love to go
ghost hunting, but nobody's ever really come.
They really just aren't that fazed by it at all.
Drag Queens are very heavily focused on like doing shows and
drag race and all of that. And my focus isn't on shows
anymore. I don't perform on stage unless
it's once a year and I take a booking.
I more or less want to host. I want to be involved in doing
something hands on. I want to be in creepy ass
locations and dressed up as Elvira enticing the spirits to
come out and play and. What outside of the the drag
that you know and the hosting in the pop culture of sort of
powerhouse that you are in the space, What do you walk away
from personally when you go ghost hunting, when you're
dealing with spirits? What do you, how does it touch?
You know what I mean? How does it touch you?
How does it move you? Like what do you what do you
feel you might be getting closer to understanding?
Well, I usually walk away with a lot of exhaustion and I'm tired
for a couple of days. You get like a really good
hangover. But I think at the end of the
day, what makes me love doing paranormal is you kind of get
there and you you're kind of have this expectation for what's
going to happen that night. And I feel like it never is what
you expect. And it's always a surprise.
And it's almost like hearing stories from a time that I never
was. And I hate history, so I'm not
going to pick up a history book. But it's different when it's
being told by the people themselves.
And I get to share their stories.
And I own a hair salon. So I talk about this all day
with my clients. And it's so cool that I can go
talk to the spirit of Elliot on Saturday and then Wednesday I
can share Elliot's story with a client.
Or for me, it's about sharing that experience.
It's about making people fall in love with the paranormal and
also changing that, that view of what drag is, you know, getting
rid of like drag Queens are scary.
They're trying to take our children, you know, but they're
not freaking scary. I have a child.
I'm not grooming my child. He does not want to do rag like
we are not scary. Great, That was funny, that was.
Great acceptance. I want to walk away with
acceptance. I want to walk away with other
four children. Have you ever gone deeper?
Like have you ever gone deeper when you've heard something or
felt something and looked it up? Like gone and tried to like what
tell can. You.
Yeah, so I have. So I'm on my 4th book right now,
so the first one's already out. So first book out, second book
coming January 1st. But wait, was.
This The Haunting of Emory Estates, Is that your book?
So that was my first book and then the second one is Haunting
of Hunt Memorial. This one's coming soon.
This was where we had our book party, but we ended up the the
second book took place over three separate investigations.
So we got stuff, we went and researched, we went back, got
more stuff, went and researched, and then we went back.
And then we were led to a cemetery in this book.
And in the cemetery we got more story from this building that is
probably like four or five blocks away from the cemetery.
It was kind of crazy. And like Emory.
I don't think I've been there twice.
I only went there that one night.
But it was just so good. It turned into a book.
The castle's gonna have a book seen Wilson Castle.
We're working on that one. I have a very deep connection to
this castle. It's the first place that let me
in drag. And I, I, I fell in love with
the spirits there. They look forward to me.
I bring gifts for them. The grandfather of the spirit of
the castle, the great grandfather of the owner of the
castle, the current living owner is he hits on me when I'm there.
And I was like, you know, nervous to tell the owner of the
castle because I'm like, what do you do?
You tell your, tell them that your great grandfather's ghost
is hitting on a drag queen. And what are they going to say
about that? How are they going to react?
Her reaction was, Oh yeah, he was that dirty old man at the
party that would hit on anything with legs.
And I'm like, OK, I get it right now.
You know, for me, it's just this experience that's completely
different and abnormal. And I love the documenting of
it. I think, I think you're
underselling yourself, Monique. I mean, honestly, when you when
we're sitting here talking about like, you know, it's it's pow
and glitter and glam, but to have two books, a third coming
out where you're going back and forth and digging in, that's
legitimate investigation. That's a you know, that's a real
that's what a lot of these people are that think they're
doing it, aren't doing, and they might be giving you shit for not
doing it or looking down at you because of how you look for it.
Possibly, I don't know, but you know, but it's that's real
investigation. That's not something to just
blow into the the rug, right? I mean, it's, it feels like you
love that. Yeah, and I'm not just getting
weird comical reactions from the spirit world either.
Obviously that happens, that happens with regular groups.
But some people also think that's going to be the case.
They're going to come go something with me and it's going
to be all heels and lashes and and this and that.
But it's not. There's really serious things,
these books. I was in drag for both of these
investigations and there's really nothing related to drag
in these books. You know it, it's not about the
fact that I'm in drag, It's just the energy that was created
those nights and how effective that energy fed both of these
locations. You know, the, the first book of
Emory, we, we had a spirit communicating with a hot or cold
device for almost a whole hour. That is a long time for a spirit
to stay active. Yeah.
And we've turned the thing on and off.
We were doing things to make sure this equipment wasn't
working. Like I don't, I don't know if
I've ever seen ATV show where something is working that long.
Do you do spirit boxes or apps or any of that stuff?
Some of them I don't. I don't, so I take everything
with a grain of salt regardless of what.
It is. Yeah, mediumship and equipment.
You, you nothing is ever 100%. Like I said, this is a pair of
science, but it's not a strict science either.
You know that nothing is a fact. Everything we get is opinion
based from what we're getting with our tools and our
equipment. Like my books, I'm not
publishing these as like this is what happened at Wilson Castle.
This is a story of something I got when I was at Wilson Castle
and this is a story that I'm sharing and I was asked to share
with the world. So, but does that mean it's a
fact that happened years and years ago?
No, we really never will know, right?
Unless we find that evidence in history.
And once again, you are, you are more of a paranormal
investigator than you let on because the, the one thing with
like for look, I'm trying to learn about this world, right?
And I'm meeting, I want to get different perspectives from
everybody. And I've met a lot of
parapsychologists and things like that.
What you know, one of my favourites is this guy Steve
Parsons, the, you know, John, the, the UK guy, he wrote this
book called Ghostology where it's a, you know, people for
some reason, every Dick who grabs an EMF meter or K2 thing
thinks they're a scientist because they've got it.
It's like, well, this is what it is, right?
This is my, I'm a scientist. And therefore it's like, no man,
you don't even know what it does.
You just think you know, and that's not what.
Science lights up and makes noise.
And it's like that's not what science is.
And even just what you just said shows that you think more
critically and scientifically than half of them out there.
Do you go to these para conferences and things like
that? Do you?
I've been invited to a few and I tend to do them.
They're very exhausting for me because like I said, I'm in
costume all day, 2 days in a row normally.
Sometimes I'm at a VIP party. Being in drag that much is very
hard. I have signed on to do 2 next
year and it was just because I was invited.
I typically don't reach out to them anymore, but I was invited
to do one in Atlantic City and I'm going to be investigating
the Apsicon Lighthouse as the VIP party.
That's cool. Yeah, really cool.
And then I'm going to be doing the main Paracon this year.
And how have those things been for you when you go?
So I've had positive and negative Paracon experiences,
mostly positive. I've been yelled at by the owner
of one of the paracons in front of guests.
Yeah. Oh, just being there.
Oh, no kidding. Yeah, just being me and got
yelled at in front of a whole group of people.
I've definitely had a lot of support from people.
I've had people come up to me and be like, I've been following
you that are celebrities and I'm like, why are you following me?
Like, you know, like, and they're like, I love what you're
doing. Keep doing it.
Don't let anyone dull you. But you do, like I said, you do.
You get some that are great and then you can tell the ones that
are just laughing in your face as they're talking to you.
Oh, listen, we get John and I are both, you know, these
partial Italian straight white guys who went to Catholic school
who now are atheists. We get so much religious like
hate and you know, for, for being that way, like sort of
shunning how we grew up in, in, in so many ways.
I can't even imagine what you have to go through with that
with those crazies because look, there's a lot of crazy in this
in the paranormal space, especially the the keyboard
warriors online, you know, do you go, are you active on social
media still? Like do you post a lot?
Do you do your? Yeah, I do.
And I I try to post a lot of videos when I do go
investigating and stuff from the events.
I'm not super active. One thing I've learned a lot
about social media is people, like you said, they're keyboard
warriors. Yes.
Yeah, listen to a thing they said.
Yeah, something that I've always admired that RuPaul has always
said on RuPaul's Drag Race is other people's opinions are none
of my business about me. So, you know, and that's kind of
like you just got to stay out of it because there is so much
negativity. And I have people that like will
follow me and say all these amazing things to me on Facebook
about how much they love what I'm doing or this.
So they'll meet me at events. They'll be like, you're really
just such a a great person. And then they'll go on Facebook
and post like an anti drag political thing about how they
think trash should be illegal and be like, what do you mean?
You're you don't even know what you're talking about.
You just told me you love me to my face and now you're trashing
my whole community on Facebook. So crazy.
What do you Yeah, Monique, what would you, what do you want like
10 years from now when they look at Monique too soon?
What do you want your sort of legacy in this space to be?
I want locations. Thank you.
I really just want locations to take me seriously, to want to
work with me. I want people to like see the
see the glitter in this. I want people to see that it
doesn't just have to be black and white.
There can be color. There can be different people,
there can be different kinds of paranormal investigation.
It's not always going to be this little cookie cutter thing
that's been created by, you know, television over the past
20 years. It's got to change.
There's it's due for something fun, something fresh and I have
fun with paranormal and I think everybody should have fun.
I think everybody should be laughing at every event.
I don't think it should be so serious and so cut and dry.
And like I said, I think the the paranormal world in 10 years, I
would just like to see color. I feel like we're all part of
the island of Misfit toys from Red Nosed Reindeer in so many
ways. And I put myself in that
category too, where it's like, you know, the elf that wants to
be a dentist and you, you remember, what was the, what was
the guy's name? Who?
God damn, what's his name? Not Yukon Cornelius.
That's the. Minor.
Yukon's the minor. I can't remember the.
That's in my head because we're so close to Christmas.
Do you remember what Dick Santa is in that?
He's. Oh yeah.
Dick. They're all, they're all.
They're all Angel. Wait, wait, hold on a second.
People are gay, dude. Oh my God.
But really? Do you remember this one?
I mean, do you remember Rudolf the Red Nose Santa?
Is he touched a Dick to like when you know he has Rudolph and
he's like, you're going to bring that shit, you're going to cover
that boy up. You know, it's like he's, if you
don't remember what I'm saying, please go watch Rudolph Reindeer
and you're going to see like. Oh, it's it's it's that whole
movie is euthanisms for so many different.
Things so crazy and yeah, they are so mean and so nasty.
Especially Santa. And then it's like, oh, well,
it's so stormy out. And then it's like, oh, now, now
you need the kid with the Red Nose.
You pretty? Yeah, right.
It's unbelievable how bad it is. It's unbelievable.
So funny how some television just didn't age well.
No I don't. It's crazy but it but the point
being that they're the ones who saved it, right?
Like all the misfits save it because it does get so
exhausting to hear the critics and the critique.
And it's like, why? Why do it this way?
Why is it any less legitimate? Why is this belief system any
less legitimate? Why is what I'm and
scientifically everything what you're saying doesn't sound you,
sounds like you're doing it even better than most.
But science doesn't care. That's the thing.
Science doesn't care, right? Like, and that's why what she's
doing is awesome, because it doesn't matter if she dresses up
in drag, if she dresses up like a big fiery red dragon and goes
to these locations, the actual, the science of it doesn't care,
doesn't care what color we are, what we sound like, what we look
like. It's the people.
It's the people in the community that care, you know, and
sometimes they could be quite horrible in their, you know,
responses and, and to the stimuli, if you will, you know.
You think everybody, Monique has some sort of ability in
paranormal. What's your experience been with
around other people or some of the people you take on tour or
have you? Yeah.
What do you think that is? I think everyone fits in
somewhere and I've spent probably 15 years building a
team of people that I personally think we work good together too
because I feel like some people battery other people in this
world. Who about your team?
What's your team made-up? How do you know that?
Yeah, so I have why I always have my husband with me.
And then I have my friend Lexie, who is a medium.
She'll be with me at the Apcom Lighthouse.
Well, don't jump ahead. What's your husband do?
What's Why is he a good part of the team?
I mean, outside of being a life partner, I'm talking about what
makes him a good paranormal investigative partner.
Not really much, to be honest. He's kind of he.
He's gonna bringing things up the stairs for me.
I love to. Say he carries your bags.
Nothing. Heavy lifting he's.
A heavy lifter, hey? Yeah, he's a heavy lifter.
He's gonna kill me. He's probably listening and he's
gonna murder me. And then I have a medium named
Lexi that I bring everywhere. And the thing with me and Lexi
is we can. We did a show of dark echoes
together and we finished each other's minds.
So like, we'll be thinking the same thing, and then we'll just
start talking about it. And then people will be like,
what are you talking about? We'll be filling in answers or
something and we were filmed blindfolded at a place and we
were pulling out a whole story blindfolded like it was crazy.
And then I I battery up with another medium like that.
And then the co-author of my book I'm.
Sorry, what did you just call that?
You battery? What?
Battery up with another medium. It's almost like our charges
connect the correct way and we make even more action happen.
It's like you feed images to each other and it's only
happened with two people before. I've worked with hundreds and
hundreds, hundreds of people and it's only happened with two
people that and me and one of them is a dark witch medium from
Florida and the other one's my friend Lexie who lives in
Vermont. And I don't know why it does it.
It it's just really weird. If I sit back-to-back with Lexie
at the castle, a couple of months ago, we were unfolding
someone buried in the back of the castle.
And I would say one thing. And she would be like, oh, yeah,
And the leaves are on her face. She threw up, she got hit in the
head with, and then I'll start feeding something else.
We're just, it's so weird. But it doesn't happen every
time. It happens so randomly.
And then other than that, on my team, like I said that my friend
Nora, who's from Florida, it's just her.
Perfect. You said she's a dark witch.
Yeah, So my friend N from Florida, she's just a darker
medium. I I think she's just someone,
you know, you always hear people that are like, I'm a light
witch, I'm a dark witch. She's just someone that is
curious about things that other people are afraid of.
So she she'll tend to walk closer to those lines versus,
you know, like someone else will step away from things they're
afraid of. I am one of those investigators
that's not a big demon person. I'm not necessarily a believer
in things that are more biblical created things.
I I more of it's a ghost, it's a person or it was not a person,
but I don't really believe necessarily in that stuff.
You mentioned that before that you think that there are spirits
that are non human. What do you think it is?
I believe that's land elemental. That's, that's really what I'm
talking about with that elemental.
Yeah. So things that are connected to
the land and you find a lot of those in like places is where
there was heavy Native American history.
Like The Conjuring House is one of those.
And that's a place I I hosted New Year's Eve for a couple of
years and that has a very weird elemental energy to it.
There are psychics that have gone there and said it's made
offers to them. You know, when you enter The
Conjuring House, it's almost like you drive into like a Jelly
mold and when you're in there, everything just shakes and
you're stuck in this Jelly mold of energy and it's so heavy, but
it's not one specific thing. It's like the land is feeding
that whole house. Like I don't think that the,
the, the story of The Conjuring, everything is Hollywood.
The, the real story behind it is just this eclectic amount of
energy. And then they threw in all these
kids and a family and they just fed the energy more and more and
more. And it grows when you're feeding
it, right? Yeah, we had Andrea, Andrea on
the show and we get, we did an interview with her and she's
such a pleasant human being, you know, such an awesome soul.
And yeah, he basically told us the same thing, you know?
You know, and John, but that this, this Jelly mold.
I know, I know. And so everybody listening to is
going to be like, wait a minute, John, you talk about the Jelly.
The Jelly mold. Well, see, I think like my thing
is when I download the apps that John uses on his in his live
feed to get the feedback, he goes, I don't get the reaction
he gets. I just don't get it.
I think that's me. I think that's, I, I think these
are all tools that play off the user and John gets good reaction
'cause I think some, I think he's, he might be a witch or
whatever he is that's got whatever he's got going on.
It's that witchy sauce. That's it.
When he feels that he is constantly describes it as
exactly what you just said, like he is in like he is inside a
gel, a jello mold that's shaking, you know, like that's
that's how he knows some something atmospheric.
I want to jump back though, to when you're talking about
elemental, you know, but are they why?
You know, they're asking for things like what?
So I got. My head around what that means
or how you see it or feel it rather.
Yeah, so that's not something I have a lot of experience with.
I have experience with Elementals, but I'm not someone
that's ever been given an offer or any of this.
But I heard this story from a medium and it kind of always
resounded with me 'cause I was a big fan of the show
Supernatural. And do you remember in the show
Supernatural where they would have the crossroads demon and
the Crossroads demon would give you that option?
Like I'll give you this if you do this for me or something.
And I, and there was a really well known medium.
I won't say the person's name, but I believe this person is
really sensitive. And they had made a post about
after going to The Conjuring house about how they had this,
they had felt like they were given an offer and from this
land spirit. And I mean, do I 100% know
that's true? No.
But I, I want to believe in my head that that could have
actually been a real thing. Because if you think about
elemental, it's heavy, big energy.
It's not a little spirit energy, it's not a human.
It's it's land, it's earth, it's fire, it's water, it's.
Existence. Guys what?
Have you ever heard of? Course.
Have you ever feel like you've come across something that could
be elemental as opposed to interdimensional or quant like
things that you believe in? I can't say that I have on that
aspect. However, I have come across
places where the land seems to have its own heartbeat, if you
will. You're in new.
York, right? Yeah, I'm in New York.
I'm right near New York City. And still have.
Yeah, yeah. So I, I'm sorry, what did you
say that? It's.
The the Hinsdale house in New York, that is one of those
properties that has a pulse. Yeah, yeah, I've heard, I
haven't been there, but I've heard, I've heard of that place.
Buck Out, for example, is one of those places that has its own
heartbeat, if you will, you know.
But yeah, no, I, as far as elementals are an interesting
topic. You know, so many people believe
in different things, but one thing that is always described
with elementals is this separation of human spirit to
actual, like, power and energy and how different and almost
monumental it feels compared to, say, something minuscule like a
regular spirit. So yeah.
Are there anybody who are your some of your mentors, Monique,
in this space? You read anybody who taught you
and. Nobody TV taught me.
I, I kind of taught myself and I started learning the equipment
and I've been kind of taken under the wing of some people
like Sam Baltrusis, who's a, a medium.
Yep. Yep, we've had Sam on Sam.
A great guy, yes, he's, he's, we've done a lot of events
together. Heidi's been great with me.
I'm very close with Andrea Perrin as well.
I was I, I, I, I talk on the to Andrea on the phone almost every
day by text message. But two of the people that have
really been really good to me are the gross Nick and Tessa.
I'm really close with Tessa Groff.
Nick Groff is one of the original Ghost Adventures guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they've really just been the
some of the kindest people on in this whole world to me.
And the kindness goes so far with me because I put on this
facade, I walk into a place with my head head hell high.
But things do get under my skin here and there.
And, you know, you got to kind of like, almost like not show
that because if they know they're getting under your skin,
you kind of got to like, you can't let them know it because
then they're it's going to get worse.
So all you got to do is next time, just tell them how
disappointed you are. That's it.
Next time something starts to get under your skin, just be
like, you know what? I'm so disappointed in you.
You know, you're really showing just how like, bad humanity
could be. How disappointing is that?
You know, that really gets to people.
Like when I deal with trolls, you kill them with kindness.
You tell them how disappointed you are, they lose it, they lose
it, you know, so that's something that you know, a
little technique I've done because I'm always dealing with
people trying to get under my skin and I can only imagine for
you, you know, just being yourself and being this what's
the best way for me to put it? You walk into a room, you're
like a bright light, you know, multi colored bright light you.
Know in this black T-shirt world we're living in, it's like it is
a it's so fun. I love it.
I like I said, I love, but I'm, I'm a bit of an anarchist, I
think I do. Yeah, me too.
Yeah, yeah, I just. And especially with the an, you
know, an anarchist and a disruptor with credibility just
makes it that much more awesome to me.
I think you're so great, Monique.
What do you want? What can we promote for you?
Where do you want the people to find you?
I mean outside of your books? We will put links to those books
in our link tree for. Sure.
What do you have like a web? What's your the go to website
where people can find out about your events?
Moniquetoosoon.com has everything from paracons to
events and any tickets will be available through there as well.
My books are available on Amazon and honestly Monique too soon on
all social media. You can find me anywhere, just
type my name in. I can't thank you enough for
giving us, for taking the time with us.
We really. Yeah.
Thank you. It's great.
I think you have a unique voice. I think you are skilled and I it
is really is interesting to hear your perspective on not just the
what spirits are, but the paranormal world in general.
I find it refreshing and sort and I just find it interesting.
I think it's really cool. I think it's really cool man, I
appreciate. You too.
Thank you much. One of my favorite movies I've
done. There's this great podcast.
I appreciate. That we're trying to figure it
out as we go a little bit but we're doing all right.
We had a really good Spotify wrap up, gave us a really big
ego boost. This.
Really dead. For us, like the top 5% of all
videos watched on Spotify, that's brag, but that's.
Amazing. We were all new shows.
People watched us more than 95% of all other new podcasts
launching 2025. I love it.
We are. Yeah.
We're gonna wear that. We're gonna brag about that for
all through 2026. Bring that there everywhere.
We are. We're about to.
We're trying. We're gonna read it all.
But people seem to like how we're doing it.
We're trying to do more. And I think the key is I want
voices like yours. Yeah, we want amazing guests
like yours, like you 100%. You need perspectives, you know,
everyone thinks they knows what what ghosts are, but no one
knows what the hell a ghost is. I mean, it's like if we knew
what a ghost was, the world would change as we know it.
It's bigger than AI. So it's like it's fun to figure
it out and hear people's personal experiences with it,
you know? And I really value your time and
your unique perspective on this movie.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
Thank you guys so much for having me.
Thank you. Definitely.
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