1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,720 Drag is just me being a clown. It's maybe going out and making 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,760 people laugh and having a lot of fun. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,960 And, and a lot of people out there think that like drag 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,320 Queens are grooming children to become drag Queens. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,800 But honestly, like that has nothing to do with any of it. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,760 My son is never once asked to put a wig on or asked to be a 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,080 drag queen. But when my son sees me leave 8 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:22,640 the house and drag, he he always tells me it's beautiful, which 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,640 is so cute. Like that means so much to me. 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,200 And it's just so sad that there's such an attack on drag 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,960 right now. And people saying that drag 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Queens and children don't mash well together, because they 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,840 absolutely do. But. 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,080 The context is different when you're doing drag with a child 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,720 versus doing drag with an adult crowd. 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,240 And I don't think that people know that that line is there or 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,080 they do know and they just don't give a shit. 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,080 And it sucks to me because I have this child who is so 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,400 beautiful and wonderful and he's so in love with, you know, 20 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,240 everything and everyone. And leaving the house with 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,320 Dragon being told or Papa, you look handsome, or Papa, you look 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,880 beautiful. Like hearing that is the best 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,240 thing. Before you leave a house, did 24 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,560 you go to a show? And I feel like I don't get that 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,040 kind of love from people, like normal adult people. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,280 And he inspires me to do drag. We watch Drag Race together and 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,560 he's always like, what are you going to do this? 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,440 When are you going to do that? Papa and I'm just like. 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,760 I. Don't know. 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,120 I don't. I don't want to compete. 31 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,520 Like, I'm not a dancer, I'm a comedian and I do fun stuff and 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,960 Drag Race just doesn't always work out for those types of 33 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:29,960 people. And so I told him I'm like, I'm 34 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:33,160 working on my own thing, dude. And you'll see me someday on TV, 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,080 but it's just not going to be in this show we watch together. 36 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,200 And. It. 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Makes me so sad to know that in the world right now that drag is 38 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:47,240 under such scrutiny and people are trying to take this 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,200 beautiful art form and turn it into a thing of hate. 40 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,080 And there's nothing hateful about drag. 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Drag is about beauty. Drag is about entertaining. 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Drag is about laughter. Drag a spell in love. 43 00:02:07,230 --> 00:02:10,070 Welcome to Splintered Spirits. I'm your host Gary along with my 44 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:12,310 nephew John Santa from Santa Paranormal. 45 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:15,470 Today's guest is a New Hampshire native who lives the state motto 46 00:02:15,470 --> 00:02:18,790 Live free or die to the fullest and does not compromise on who 47 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:21,990 she is. Monique Too soon is the ghostess 48 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:24,830 with the mostess and the self crowned world's most unique 49 00:02:24,830 --> 00:02:27,880 trigger object. As a drag queen paranormal 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,040 investigator with over 20 years in entertainment, Monique is 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,360 redefining this predominantly rigid black tea wear and male 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,680 field by fusing glamour and glitter into ghost hunting. 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,040 But you're going to see what John and I see. 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,200 And that Monique is not just going for shock value. 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,360 Just because she wants to have fun in these haunted locations 56 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,640 doesn't mean her investigative work is any less credible. 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Monique is to ghost hunting what Elle Woods illegally blonde is 58 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,520 to the law. She's a bad ass and here to 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,240 discuss her work investigating iconic locations like The 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,080 Conjuring House in Wilson Castle, her books, and how her 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,160 high energy drag persona acts as a beacon for spiritual activity. 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Let's dive into the conversation. 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,760 All right, Monique, welcome to the Splintered spirits. 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Hi, thanks for having me. Oh my God, this is so fun. 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,960 I I have to tell you, I love when I who was the Heidi Kemper 66 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,640 was another guest of ours, told us about it. 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,840 And when I looked it up, I was like, OK, this is a person who 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,520 is disrupting the norm. And that's what I think, John, I 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,480 think you agree with me. We. 70 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Kind of. Oh I agree 100% and I love it 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,840 kind. Of love, the stat like the this 72 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,480 anti status quo of what is perceived to be a ghost hunter 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,200 and what that all means and how that all set out to go, you 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,360 know, to, to go about it. So, you know, just to get into 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,280 it. So you, you, you call yourself 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,480 the, the ghostess with the mostess, right. 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,840 But, you know, take us back a little bit, Monique, to, to the 78 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,920 beginning of how this started for you. 79 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,040 I mean, did you grow up in a in a spooky household? 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,200 Did you grow up in New Hampshire or or did this or did paranormal 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,240 find you later? Yeah, I grew up in New Hampshire 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,960 and my parents house was pretty haunted that I grew up in. 83 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,720 I was sensitive to spirit back then and I don't think I 84 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,480 realized what I was sensitive to back then. 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,680 When you, when you're a kid, you kind of you get freaked out by 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,800 everything. So you don't really focus in and 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,680 learn how to use that until you're older. 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,200 But when I was a kid, experienced stuff at my mom's 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 house and I started doing paranormal stuff and I was in my 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,480 20s more, not so much. I mean, I'm 42 now. 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,200 So I've been doing paranormal for about 20 years and I, I 92 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,400 didn't start ghost hunting and drag until COVID. 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,000 And I've been doing drag for 20 years and paranormal for 20 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,760 years. But I never like had this aha 95 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,280 moment of do with them together, see what happens. 96 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:51,280 And then COVID, I, I couldn't go to a bar anymore and drag 97 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:54,520 because, you know, like I'm not putting a mask over a freshly 98 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,560 beautiful fight face and it walked around covered. 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,880 So I ended up going ghost hunting and drag during COVID at 100 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,360 a place local here in Massachusetts called the SK 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,040 Pierce Mansion. And I ended up getting an EVP 102 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,880 that night and it said he's a lady. 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,720 And I was like, immediately the ghosts are like making fun of 104 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,680 me. They're they're sassing me. 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,280 And I'm like, this changes everything because not only are 106 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:23,320 the ghosts more interactive when I'm in drag, they say different 107 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,400 things than they do when I'm at a location and not in drag. 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:32,120 So like I get wigs a lot, lashes, heels, they hit on me. 109 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,600 They told me they wanted to have sex with me. 110 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,720 That's on TikTok. There's a video of them, like 111 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,600 where I was like, I was in this place where there's like sailors 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 everywhere and I could feel this energy. 113 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,600 There's a lot of war artifacts. And I'm like, if you could do 114 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,240 anything you wanted to do to me right now, what would you do? 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,040 And sex, sex, sex, sex comes right out of the radio clear as 116 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,280 say, everyone's screaming one of the best things that ever 117 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:55,240 happened. And, you know, ghost hunting and 118 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,080 drag. It's like, think of taking like 119 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,480 the highest form of energy you can and then throwing it into a 120 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,520 location that has never seen that high form of energy. 121 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:07,360 And now it's like a whole new investigation that the spirits 122 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,400 don't know what to do with me just as much as humans don't. 123 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,880 It it's what look you're leading it to my next. 124 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,400 I usually would. I asked this to all our guests, 125 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,080 but this is a perfect time to ask because you brought it up. 126 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,840 What do you think the spirits? What do you think spirits are? 127 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,480 What do you think they are? Because you're using energy a 128 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,040 lot. Yeah, I, I think spirits are 129 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,360 energy that have moved on. And I believe that there's 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,040 different kinds of spirits. I believe there are spirits that 131 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,920 weren't human ever. And I believe that there are 132 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,840 spirits that have moved on and just come and visit. 133 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,960 And then we have ghosts that are kind of stuck here on this, on 134 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,720 this 3D planet we're on. And energy is different for 135 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,360 everyone too. Every medium reads it 136 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,680 differently. I, I get things differently than 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,560 other mediums too. But I believe ghosts are just 138 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,880 our, our, our remnants and our memories and our some of our 139 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,680 energy that's kind of behind that we can communicate with 140 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,800 and. Do you have? 141 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,520 Were you ghost hunting when you weren't in drag and did you 142 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,000 notice the significant difference? 143 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,360 Yeah, so when I wasn't in drag, we always had great nights 144 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,760 still. And we use a lot of tools. 145 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,560 I'm an equipment nerd. So like I have got like 20 K 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,600 worth of ghost hunting equipment and Oh yeah, I am. 147 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,680 I'm a Syria you. If you come ghost hunting with 148 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,760 me I will pull out a whole table full of expensive stuff. 149 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,000 And what's your? What's your go to? 150 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Oh man, I love tripwire, which is like ghost Christmas lights. 151 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,400 I love anything that is bright and shiny and pretty that I can 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,680 like make different than any other ghost hunter in this 153 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,960 world. I'm going to do like I have a 154 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,840 robot that I use like a MIP. Just so many cool radios that I 155 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,320 use different forms of radios. I I scry as well, so I can like 156 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,040 look through mirrors and see things. 157 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,600 So I have a scrying mirror that I bring on location with me. 158 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,520 But. Yeah. 159 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,720 Tools. Tools are definitely my thing. 160 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,320 I I use my gift as well but I'm more of a tool person. 161 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,240 OK, All right. So you I I read you mentioned, 162 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 you know, that your drag persona was inspired by Elvira. 163 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Yes. And did you always see that 164 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Natural Bridge sort of between the world of camp horror and 165 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,000 actual paranormal investigation? I know you said you decided 166 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,560 during COVID to combine the two, to combine the two things, but 167 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,760 what what was it? What was that aha moment? 168 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,600 I don't even know what the aha moment was. 169 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,040 It was boredom for me, really. Elvira had just been someone I 170 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,520 was inspired by as a kid. As a kid, I was obsessed with 171 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,440 all the Hollywood blondes like Pamela Anderson, Jenny McCarthy, 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,360 all the women in Hollywood that were getting attention for the 173 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,880 wrong reasons. I guess, you know, that kind of 174 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,200 was my and Elvira to me had this sense of confidence about her 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,520 and she could just sit on that couch and host this movie and 176 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,240 nobody would not respect her because of how confident and how 177 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,120 quick and funny she was. And I, I inspired to be her, her 178 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,920 a lot in drag. And that's why I started doing 179 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,440 drag with Elvira and I started out hosting. 180 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,560 And that's the thing about Elvira that I wanted to do. 181 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,680 I wanted to sit on the couch. I wanted to talk about movies or 182 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:01,040 host. And that's how I became the 183 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,080 Hostess with the mostest. And then when I started ghost 184 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,120 hunting, we switched it to the ghostess with the mostest. 185 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,240 And but Elvira was the, was the complete and total inspiration 186 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,840 for that. And still to this day like I 187 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,040 have never even met her in person. 188 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Every time I've gone to meet her I I end up sick or she cancels 189 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,080 something. Always happens every time I have 190 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,080 a ticket. Oh my God, we got to figure that 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,200 out. Yeah. 192 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,960 In front of Elvira. That would be wonderful. 193 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Do you, do you find that you have double the prep work for 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,760 your, you know, for your investigations because you know, 195 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,160 your, your, your, your makeup's on point, right? 196 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,040 So that takes skill and time and then you have to prep for your 197 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,600 investigation. So what's what's that like? 198 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Yeah, so usually I pack everything for the investigation 199 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,600 first. I'm OCD, so I got to make sure 200 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,280 everything is lined up and in the car. 201 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,200 And then I usually get ready at location 'cause I want to see 202 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,120 how Spirit reacts to the fact that I'm getting ready in their 203 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,360 room too. I have a castle up here that I 204 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,400 get ready and then I get ready in the in the woman who built 205 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,000 the castle's room and I've actually felt her presence in 206 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,880 there while I'm getting ready. And I almost feel like she 207 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,040 appreciates the fact that I'm using her mirror and and her 208 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,720 things. But I spend an hour and a half 209 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,560 just getting ready for the investigation, not including 210 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:15,360 unpacking, setting up everything and preparing for the night. 211 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,960 So on top of any other investigator that's throwing on 212 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,480 a black shirt and a pair of jeans, just. 213 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,280 That's exactly right. Yeah. 214 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,760 Hold on. The get ready. 215 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Yeah, the get ready. Yeah, The get ready, get ready. 216 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,520 With me. Look, for the most part, is the 217 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,800 black T-shirt. Cross your arms. 218 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,840 Yeah, and we're, and you're not really given the the spirits 219 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,240 anything to react to at that point too, 'cause I will tell 220 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,160 you one of the coolest things that happens to me is I wear 221 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,960 different colored dresses to every event. 222 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Like I had a whole bunch design just for ghost hunting and the 223 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,600 ghost will actually comment on the color of my dress. 224 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,160 They'll put in requests for colors that I wear next time 225 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,080 over radios where guests are listening and they're like, they 226 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,920 just told you to wear red. And I'm like, I will, I'll wear 227 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,880 it next time. And then I'll wear red the next 228 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,120 time. And the spirits will react to 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,360 the fact that I actually wore that red dress for them. 230 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,360 I love it like the all right, so this is what I want to get into 231 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,960 this with you because this is what the disruptor that you are 232 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,160 and you refer to yourself as a as the world's most unique 233 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:18,040 trigger object, you know, So break that down for for for 234 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,160 listeners right now. Why do? 235 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,760 Why do you consider yourself that? 236 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,960 I'm the well, first, I was the first drag queen I believe ever 237 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,000 to step into a haunted location and go investigating and drag. 238 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,720 Second, it's disrupting because I am the highest form of energy 239 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,160 there is. I created this trigger object 240 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,120 accidentally just by going ghost hunting and drag, and I didn't 241 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,320 realize when I did it that first time just how explosive. 242 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,240 It changes every investigation. Like when we're there, we still 243 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,240 get great stuff when I go investigating as a guy, but when 244 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,840 I'm in drag it's just almost like, it's almost like I spill 245 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,840 EMF into a location and it just can feed off of that. 246 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,000 I'm very disruptive. If you want to change the course 247 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,240 of an investigation or ATV show, throw a drag queen in it. 248 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Is it, do you feel, Monique, that it's because of you? 249 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,520 Like when you're in this, when you're in this persona, in your 250 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,520 drag queen persona, does it give you that lift of energy? 251 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,640 It's not just the it's not just the look of the outfit. 252 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Is it for spirits? Is it? 253 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Is it all? It's internal for you, right? 254 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:17,680 Like you, are you preparing? Am I like what's the? 255 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,440 Question The look is feeding. The look is giving us something 256 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,000 to play with and talk about. And and you know, it's kind of a 257 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,400 costume. If you showed up to an 258 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,800 investigation dressed up in costume, they would probably 259 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,800 react to the costume too. But it's an internal energy. 260 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,560 There's just definitely a huge spike of of energy that comes 261 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:37,000 out when you're dressed in drag. It's like putting on a new a 262 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,480 whole new person and you get to like leave and you just get to 263 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,120 be someone else and it's very freeing. 264 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,000 So it's almost like alleviating my brain of anything that I 265 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,920 would have taken to that investigation with me. 266 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,280 I'm putting on a completely different person that I'm just 267 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,560 investigating as do. You go by yourself or do you go 268 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:54,160 with other people? And I usually host events now 269 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,960 I've become a little niche market up here and I'm doing 270 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,720 like sold out events all over New England. 271 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,280 I host them in drag. They can come scream with this 272 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,360 queen and experience the you know the the best trigger object 273 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,080 ever in person. Well, you know, you know, I, I 274 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,040 gotta say when you know, you're calling yourself a trigger 275 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,600 object, right? And definitely, definitely more 276 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,520 of a trigger person, right? Even though I get it right, 277 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,600 obviously, but it's just amazing because I can back this up 100%. 278 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,080 I can back it even up even way more. 279 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,480 Think about it like this. You take spirits from the 1800s, 280 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,440 right? We're gonna throw it out there. 281 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,440 1800s. How many of them have had 282 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:41,160 desires, lusts, things that were taboo back in the day that they 283 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,360 couldn't express? And then here you come, you 284 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,480 know, and you're just like awakening all of that, all those 285 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,480 feelings, all those desires, all that lust. 286 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,600 It's pretty wild. I've noticed it just dealing 287 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,480 with spirits. I've had a lot of spirits hit on 288 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,320 me, both male and female, right? And it and it and it and it's 289 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,400 wild. So I can only imagine what it's 290 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,240 like to be in a room with you while speaking to spirits. 291 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:11,240 You know they must look at you and go, wow, I can. 292 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,760 Maybe I can be myself. Did we actually had a location, 293 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Sweet Springs Sanitarium in West Virginia? 294 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,640 They don't actually do investigation anymore, but I 295 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,160 wasn't even in drag for this one. 296 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,800 But we were drawn to the women's corridor or the men's corridor 297 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,840 there. And, and if you knew anything 298 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,800 about Sweet Springs, they had a men's corridor or women's 299 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,880 corridor and then they had like the staff corridor and there's 300 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,680 300 and something rooms in this building. 301 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,040 It's shaped like the letter E and it's, it's massive. 302 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,960 We got lost in there so many times this night. 303 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,520 But in the men's corridor, I kept getting told to go to a 304 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,880 room and one specific room in this whole hallway. 305 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,680 And so we go to this room and I'm like, I thought, they're not 306 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,160 gonna leave me alone unless we go in this room. 307 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,120 We go to the room and we're just like looking around and this 308 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,200 place has got like, it almost looks like it was just left 309 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,520 behind, like everyone picked up and just left with what they 310 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,120 could grab. Well, inside this room was very 311 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,600 large, tall sized women's clothes and there was like 312 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 little Knick knacks and there was like newspaper articles 313 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,600 about cross dressing. And I'm like, Oh my God, there 314 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,600 was someone here institutionalized for cross 315 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,840 dressing and they're like making me come to their room right now 316 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,000 because they see that in me and they want me to like possibly 317 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,920 get that story out of them. So I've been wanting to go back 318 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,320 since in drag and see if I can get led to that exact same room 319 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,760 and if he'll give me more. That's wild. 320 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,000 That is, Yeah. I mean, have you ever felt a 321 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,240 spirit was confused? Mm hmm. 322 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Yeah, definitely you. Get that a lot. 323 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,160 Yeah, and, and, and and gender is something that's is more 324 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,720 talked about nowadays than it was. 325 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,280 And like you said, in any time period, like what I'm doing 326 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,520 right now probably would have put me in a mental hospital in 327 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,840 the 1950s easily. For real though. 328 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,960 Unfortunately, yeah. Unfortunately, yeah. 329 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,880 And I've investigated mental hospitals and dragon. 330 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,280 I mean, the energy there can be really wacky when I'm there. 331 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,760 It like it's so weird. Have you done a 5050 yet? 332 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Have you done like, like half the night, you know, not in drag 333 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,600 and then be like, all right, everybody, I'll be right back 334 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,800 and then come, you know, right back in dressed up. 335 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,320 Yeah. So most of my events, I change 336 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,080 around one or two in the morning and I'll continue to investigate 337 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,280 with the guests and until like 3 o'clock 4:00 in the morning 338 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,080 until I really crash. But I have to warn my guests 339 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,720 that I'm going to change because this and me as a boy are nothing 340 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,840 alike. And I have to like warn people 341 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,920 because I've actually scared people and they've tried to 342 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,120 like, report me to people that work at my events. 343 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,360 And they're like, some creepy guy just showed up. 344 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,200 And I'm like, Oh my God, this is hyster. 345 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,480 I look like Pee Wee Herman as a boy. 346 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,040 Oh. My. 347 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,880 God, Paul Rubin, you look like Paul Rubin. 348 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Yeah, a lot of people will be like, you look like Pee Wee 349 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Herman, but people just don't. They don't get it. 350 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,680 So I have to warn everybody at the beginning of every event 351 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,640 that I'm going to take this off at some point and this random 352 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,800 guy is just going to show up. But there's the whole vibe must 353 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,040 chant, right 'cause I mean, that must. 354 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,600 The energy that you talk about really is not just from you at 355 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,800 that point, right? The energy is also from your 356 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,440 guests and the people with you. There's certainly hanging out 357 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,680 with the drag queen and your big personality and this persona is 358 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,839 going to be, you know, I bet the party drops at one of the 359 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:12,040 markets. It's like, listen, I'm taking 360 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,200 this wig off, I'm coming back. Everything goes down, right? 361 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,720 And it's got to be a whole different vibe. 362 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Which then have you noticed, right? 363 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,319 Has the investigations gotten a little? 364 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:22,839 Do they get a little lame at that point? 365 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,680 Not lame, but they definitely can get quieter. 366 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,119 But I find that happens even when I'm not in dragon 367 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,960 locations. I feel like they, we're going to 368 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,040 get like a really good hour of stuff I feel every night and 369 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,160 then we're going to have about 5 hours of, you know, little 370 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,280 things or quiet things. But it doesn't, it doesn't tell 371 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,080 us ahead of time when that hour is going to be. 372 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,880 So it can, it's usually when I'm in drag, obviously, but it can 373 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,040 also be later in the night too. After I change. 374 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,400 Typically after I get out of drag, my energy level is 375 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,720 dropping because I'm exhausted. I walk around in heels and 376 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,920 platforms and covered in. Makeup. 377 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,480 Hold on, hold on. How is it walking around in 378 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,480 heels at some of these locations? 379 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,080 Some of them don't let me wear heels Yeah, I started wearing 380 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,680 platforms because they don't want or restored floors too and 381 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,720 they don't want me to scratch the floors with the guilt. 382 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,160 So I'll wear platforms to those events. 383 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,640 But yeah, it's I, I, I, I want any ghost hunter that's on TV 384 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,240 right now to get in drag and go ghost hunting and tell me how 385 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,120 uncomfortable and miserable. They are, they have to be. 386 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,200 I would be. I'm I'm sorry. 387 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,000 That's why when you said heels, I was like, whoa. 388 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,120 That's all you're. Not wearing sneakers, you know, 389 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:36,200 like. Without heels I'm 510, so with 390 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,000 heels I'm a little over 6 foot. Right, right. 391 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,800 It's a, it's a, it's a vision. It's amazing. 392 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Yeah. I walk in. 393 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,400 I walk in this all the time at locations I've bumped my head on 394 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,480 things pipes. Jesus. 395 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,920 I don't do anything for a reaction too. 396 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Oh, my God. So, you know, look, this 397 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,640 community that we're in, right? There's a lot of skeptics, and 398 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,840 they like things scientific and sterile, where you like glamour 399 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,600 and glitter. And the paranormal community, 400 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,240 the field as as a whole can feel rigid. 401 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,000 You know? Everyone's real set in their 402 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,120 ways, you know? How has your experience been 403 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,800 with the community? I would say like 50, fifty, 50% 404 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,200 positive. There are a lot of what I've 405 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,200 noticed is a lot of gay people in the community, but they're 406 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,880 kind of closeted, which is kind of, you know, back in the day 407 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,040 for me, I'm not used to seeing people really closeted. 408 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,680 And it's a very straight male bit industry, the paranormal. 409 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,160 You don't really see any of the gay people on TV either. 410 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,120 If they are on TV, you're almost very unaware that they're gay at 411 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:39,200 all. They don't talk about it. 412 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,960 They've never really presented it that way. 413 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,200 I've had people laugh in my face at paracons, like celebrities, 414 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,280 like full blown paranormal celebrities just laugh at me. 415 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,400 I've had them stop me from getting bookings. 416 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,880 I've had locations legit just say we will not work with you. 417 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,040 We don't want that on our on our website. 418 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,280 We don't want, we don't want any of the press that we'll get for 419 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,280 this. I've, I've been shot down. 420 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Like I've, I've literally begged to get into places. 421 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,520 There are locations that I want to go to so bad but they refuse. 422 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,640 To, to allow this. And there was a I'd lost a 423 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,280 booking in Tennessee one year because they were trying to make 424 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,560 drag illegal in Tennessee. So the people were like, we're 425 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840 afraid you might get arrested if you go out in public here. 426 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,280 So we're just going to cancel until this all settles down. 427 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,600 And I'm like, what the fuck is going on with the world? 428 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Well, Monique, listen, listen, if you're ever in New York and 429 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,840 you want to come on a little, you know, a little ghost 430 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,760 adventure with me, you are welcome to drag or not, I don't 431 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,720 care. You can look however you want 432 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,920 and I am down SO. Why do you think that it why do 433 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,320 you think that's the that's the look? 434 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,640 I mean, you know, is there going to be serious? 435 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,200 Yeah. But what do you think 'cause I 436 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,520 mean look, I mean, does it really stem back? 437 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,720 Here's my theory Look, you know, it's like, I don't I don't know, 438 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,640 I don't know the taps guys, but I mean they're really the first 439 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,240 guys, right? They they came out on TV and and 440 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,920 it was it was the blue collar guy, right? 441 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,880 It was plumbers, you know, who are ghost hunting. 442 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,800 So they, they set the standard for it, whereas before them, 443 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,520 what was it? It was like almost nerds, right? 444 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,240 Just like scientists and parapsychologists were straight 445 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,000 up nerds with like a pen and book. 446 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,560 Then they come out and it's like we got gear and EMF, but we're 447 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,920 plumbers. And that might have. 448 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,720 And that's what spawned a lot of the look and the idea that you 449 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,560 need tech and all that stuff. I don't know. 450 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,240 What do you think? Do you think that's really still 451 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,960 rooted to there with that? I really. 452 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,040 Do if I mean if you look at any of the paranormal TV, even on 453 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,400 all the apps where the contents being created, it's almost like 454 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,160 it's got a blueprint and it's almost identical. 455 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,600 Even the girls that are in the paranormal, the women, even 456 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,360 there's trans people as well, even a lot of them are, are 457 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:45,680 doing it the exact same way. They're all wearing black, 458 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,240 they're all wearing, you know, they all have their tool kits 459 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,960 and their, their, their toolbox that they walk in with. 460 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,280 And there's no color in the paranormal world. 461 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,760 There's no, there's no glitter. There's, there's, there's 462 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,360 nothing. It's so serious and like 463 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,160 paranormal is serious and it should be taken seriously. 464 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,000 We should be respecting the dead and every, everything on the 465 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,960 other side. But there's also an element of 466 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,840 fun there. Yeah, we're shooting. 467 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,160 We're shooting. I was like. 468 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Yeah, exactly. I was going to correct you on 469 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760 that. It's like there's you could be, 470 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,720 you could take your you could take the the field seriously, 471 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,960 but you could still have fun with it. 472 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,560 That doesn't diminish what we're talking about. 473 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,480 But yeah, like marginalized voices, you know, in this 474 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,360 community, I mean, even like African Americans too, it's like 475 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,800 what? There's the ghost brothers. 476 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:35,000 Marginalized groups in this in this genre are few and far 477 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,480 between. Or like you said, they're 478 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,000 they're keeping quiet about it. And I love the fact that you're 479 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,080 so open about it. And I'm trying to force my way 480 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,480 in. I keep telling people I'm like, 481 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 you may not want to work with me now, but if something does take 482 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,560 off because there are, there are things in places that tomorrow 483 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,160 morning could turn me into a completely different person, you 484 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,360 know? And people will be begging me to 485 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,840 be at their events and doing stuff with them at this point. 486 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,120 Just keep doing you. And if you doing you, don't 487 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,880 change. Keep being you. 488 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,760 It was like when I started all you. 489 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,040 I like to joke around with my community, laugh, have fun, and 490 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,840 everybody just hated me for it. I just kept doing me, you know 491 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,720 now and now and that and now. Look, just keep doing you, who 492 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,360 cares about everybody else? I care about the individual 493 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,520 right? Not the community as a whole. 494 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,080 And you're a prime example of that. 495 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280 Cuz you are awesome. Well, John gets a lot of heat. 496 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,360 John gets a lot of heat because a lot of people think he's out 497 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:33,040 there being a ghost investigator or a ghost hunter. 498 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,440 And that's the one thing he's very and they don't listen to 499 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,160 him because he clearly always says, I'm not a ghost hunter. 500 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,280 I document, I just talk to him. I do my thing, but I 501 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,640 communicate. I'm not here to investigate and 502 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,960 any of that. But they never listen to that 503 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,560 part. So they always disavow what he's 504 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,800 doing or what he says is evidence. 505 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,440 They don't buy into it or any of that shit, which is always 506 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,880 strange to me. It's like, who cares? 507 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,720 Number one, you know? So it's yeah. 508 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,880 When you look, when you're out there, Monique, with this, you 509 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,440 know, as I mean, you really are sort of a pion. 510 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,760 You are this pioneer in for the for your community. 511 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,280 And so do you feel, do you feel like a burden or is it a 512 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,960 responsibility now for you to represent the LGBTQ community in 513 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,280 the paranormal space? Or is it more of your primary 514 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,160 goal to find ghosts? Like how do you balance that? 515 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,960 So I don't even really know what my primary objective is anymore 516 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,480 at this point. I think I've started to get 517 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,680 relaxed doing what I'm doing. And I think for the past couple 518 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,760 of years I was chasing the the Hollywood dream of it all 519 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,080 because I was getting a lot of those clicks. 520 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,080 For a couple of years I filmed like 5 or 6 different TV shows 521 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,520 that never went anywhere and they were all about me and what 522 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,200 I'm doing and how I'm changing things. 523 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,680 And it's just, it seems like nobody wants to pick it up. 524 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,520 Nobody wants anything different, and that is really where it's 525 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,680 coming from. A lot of people are saying 526 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,320 they're too conservative for this kind of entertainment, like 527 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,840 their entertainment should be fun. 528 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,280 Right, this shouldn't be a thing about look. 529 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,400 You're talking to somebody. I used to work at Discovery. 530 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,600 I worked there for like 10 years, right? 531 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,760 The studio side of things. So you're talking about it. 532 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,280 You know, that network and those people and those shows are very 533 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,560 Bible Belt, Middle America. It is the working man sort of 534 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960 thing, right? So all the ghost shows, it's to 535 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,520 to to figure out how to you breakthrough. 536 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,320 Like where, where do I program you in this serious, serious, 537 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,240 serious, funny, serious, serious, like like how do I sell 538 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,640 it, you know, And then is it because the audience for 539 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520 paranormal is very similar to the audience for true crime? 540 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,480 It's almost like the same sort of thing, right? 541 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Those people who like one usually like the other and 542 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,080 they're very audience for it. So but when you try to change 543 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600 the tone for it, it's hard. They don't know what they don't 544 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,360 know what to do. They just don't know what to do. 545 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:54,960 They know that they can't keep their eyes off you. 546 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,960 You make them smile and laugh. They just don't know where to 547 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,280 put you on the schedule. So it's better to try to figure 548 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,480 it out on your, in my opinion, figure it out on your own, which 549 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,440 is kind of, you know, how this, you know, it's one of those 550 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,920 things what when it comes to, you know, so outside of ghost 551 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,200 hunting, I mean, is horror like a vibe for you because of 552 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,680 Elvira? Like what's going on behind you 553 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,600 here? What's all that stuff? 554 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,880 Is it like, you know, is it still part of your universe? 555 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,680 Yeah, horror is horror is pretty much all I watch. 556 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,200 I'm I've been obsessed with horror since I was like 7 years 557 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,600 old. So I've grown up a bit. 558 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,800 The rest of my room is covered in ghosts. 559 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,040 I'm I'm very obsessed with ghosts, Legos. 560 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,040 I love video games. I'm the biggest nerd outside of 561 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,880 drag. I'm Barbie and drag and I am 562 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,840 you. Definitely the nerd outside of 563 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,480 it. Oh, I'm the biggest pussy with 564 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,680 horror. I cannot, I, I get terrified my 565 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,360 wife will put on it. She wants she'll put on 566 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,480 something scary. And then she sits there with her 567 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,240 phone like secretly like this to help me while I'm gripping my 568 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,280 dog and yelling at the screen and like everything that 569 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,920 happens, I'm like, this is insane. 570 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,080 We talk about this. I'm like what? 571 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,080 Like the last horror movie I went to the theater to see was 572 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,040 The Grudge and I was terrified. That movie I. 573 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,120 Felt like I ran a. Marathon I felt like I ran a 574 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:13,240 marathon and then the second scariest thing I've seen a long 575 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,480 time was the the Haunting of Hill House on Netflix, which was 576 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,160 terrifying and I believe has the greatest jump scare in history 577 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,000 within it. What do you think's scary? 578 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,360 What's what's what scares you Anything or what? 579 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:30,120 What's your what's the? Much nothing I I horror movie 580 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,240 wise. Stuff that bothers me is more 581 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,480 like the guttural like stuff that feels real like Midsummer. 582 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,680 Like I feel like there's a cult out there somewhere actually 583 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,320 doing this. Like. 584 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840 I Swedes, right? I never thought I had to be 585 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,960 afraid of Swedes before and now I then I saw Midsummer and I'm 586 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,360 like, Nope, there's they're no good. 587 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,640 They're definitely. In the woods, anywhere and 588 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,560 nowhere where there's any kind of festival happening. 589 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,000 No I anything cult related. I, I love horror, but like, none 590 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,840 of it really scares me. But cult stuff, definitely. 591 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,840 I don't know, there's something to me that it's truly terrifying 592 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,680 that so many people can follow and believe something so truly. 593 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,040 Welcome to America. The biggest cult in the world 594 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,240 right now. And it literally, it's just, 595 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,240 it's so weird to me how and it's so true to these people like 596 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,320 watching like the kool-aid cult with, you know, Jim Jones and 597 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,800 all that back. They believed this stuff. 598 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,480 And like, to me, it's like, how do you get to that point in your 599 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,440 head where you start to like, it's scary to me. 600 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Yeah, I don't like. Torture. 601 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,120 Broken human mind, you know. I don't like torture porn 602 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,720 movies. Like I don't like the Saw movie. 603 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680 I especially don't like them. Like, I'm not even going in, you 604 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,520 know, like hostile and saw and anything like that, like human, 605 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,920 like anything that's that's just that stuff is just gross for 606 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,680 gratuitously gross. I don't find it scary, you know? 607 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,080 I like it all. What did you say? 608 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Did you see weapons? Yeah, I didn't think that was 609 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,040 scary. I. 610 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Didn't think it was scary, but and I didn't think I got to be 611 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,400 honest, I didn't think it was worth the hype. 612 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,640 John, did you see weapons yet? I. 613 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Didn't see weapons right now. I've been watching Welcome to 614 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,000 Dairy. Oh, I haven't seen it yet. 615 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640 I don't, I don't find it scary, but I think it's awesome. 616 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,760 I think they're I think they're doing a great job with the 617 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,040 storytelling, you know, tying it all in and whatnot. 618 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120 And to the whole Stephen King legacy with all his books. 619 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,240 And there's a lot of cool stuff. If you if you read Stephen King 620 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,920 and you watch Welcome to Dairy, you're like, are they 621 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,640 referencing what I think I think they're referencing? 622 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,360 Are they bringing up The Shining or are they bringing up and 623 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560 you're like. Dude, I'm a, I'm a straight 624 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,000 white guy. Of course I love Stephen King as 625 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,440 a teenager. That's what we did in high 626 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,240 school at 15. You know we we read Stephen King 627 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,560 as like our first books. Yeah, dude, I used to. 628 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,040 I used to pull down your books off your bookshelf and read them 629 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,440 when I would when I go over to yeah. 630 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,120 When it was different reading them and then now as I'm older I 631 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,120 can't watch them. Then once I had kids forget I 632 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,920 get scared even more. But weapons, I thought weapons 633 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,320 was a little the the marketing was genius. 634 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,680 Because you. Didn't know what it was, but 635 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,960 then you watch it and as AI have AI have a lot of friends who are 636 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,360 writers right, and they and they told me he's like he didn't know 637 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,800 what the movie was. So it's like he only had, he 638 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,560 had, if he's when you I'm, I'm not going to spoil any plot 639 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,960 points, but basically what happened is he got to a certain 640 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,040 point and then in the movie they start to retell the same thing 641 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400 from different points of view. Yeah, because he didn't know 642 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,160 what to do. So the writer doesn't know what 643 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,680 to do. So it's like he just retells the 644 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,280 thing with from different points of view. 645 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,880 And then it wraps up and you're just like, oh, that's what it 646 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,840 is. It's just a monster. 647 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,360 You know, whatever it is, you know it's like this. 648 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,600 And that's what killed me about it, the three stories. 649 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,840 I'm like, we didn't need a whole hour of extra stories that 650 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,040 didn't actually go very further into a different story. 651 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,720 Yeah, and it wasn't scary. I agree. 652 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,640 It was just so. Monique, if you if you would 653 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200 have picked a a place like what's your dream place to go 654 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,040 and investigate? Oh, and this hasn't happened 655 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,840 yet. Not even once anywhere. 656 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,520 I have not been in a prison in drag yet, but my dream Alcatraz. 657 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,000 Alcatraz. Yeah, I want to do the escape 658 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920 route in drag. I want to crawl through the wall 659 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040 and like, escape the prison in full drag. 660 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,480 Ghost hunting. Like Nicholas Cage. 661 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,800 Yes, but I want to be the first drag queen in Alcatraz. 662 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400 I want to go into Alcatraz and see what happens to me. 663 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,920 Have you ever just gone just to visit Alcatraz in drag? 664 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,680 Yes, I have definitely been in a prison before. 665 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,120 Not, not Alcatraz, but I went to West Virginia State, Penn, but 666 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880 I've never, I have never even been over near Alcatraz. 667 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,160 I'm planning on going to Winchester next year or the year 668 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,880 after so I will definitely do a tour when I'm there. 669 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,680 I don't think Alcatraz would really want a ghost hunting drag 670 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,720 queen there if I called him anathem, but. 671 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,280 I don't see why not. It's remember, remember where it 672 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,640 is. It's San Francisco. 673 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,440 True. I, I, you know. 674 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280 That and and listen, anybody with a business mind that knows 675 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,400 that your money is green, you know, and I mean, so I try 676 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,720 anyway. That's it's, no, it's a great, 677 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,280 it is a great. I've been Alcatraz a bunch of 678 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,920 times for tours. I, I don't, I don't ghost 679 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,320 investigate, but it's like I'm not going to sit there at night 680 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,880 and that's, that's just not for me. 681 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,760 I'm going. To I'd watch you guys do it. 682 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,320 I would do it. Alone and drag I just to be in 683 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,280 there. So outside of ghost hunting you, 684 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,240 you host, you still host like ghost and glitter and check out 685 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,960 my equipment or are those past shows or new shows or? 686 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,360 No, I haven't done anything with Check out my Equipment in a 687 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,760 Little While and Ghost and Glitter. 688 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,200 I had planned on doing a second season and this year I got 689 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,440 really busy with events. I ended up having a lot of 690 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,320 events this year in just a lot less time. 691 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,160 So like really outside of drag, I own a hair salon. 692 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,240 I also am a realtor, so you know, I do a lot of stuff. 693 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280 I'm a parent. I do drag shows here and there 694 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,280 still, but the ghost hunting stuff is kind of like my 695 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,200 passion, my love, the thing I really enjoy doing. 696 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,080 What's the what's the ultimate goal then for you money for for 697 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,680 your brand? I honestly I'm. 698 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,560 Just having fun and seeing where it goes and I'm just going to 699 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,200 keep being me and building my brand and if people want it, 700 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600 great, come and get it. And if they don't, then I'm just 701 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,640 going to explode glitter on them regardless. 702 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,000 There you go. So what about what about the 703 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,240 drag community? How does the drag community feel 704 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,440 about what you do or other people that are? 705 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,240 Yeah. I've had a couple of drag Queens 706 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,720 reach out that want to come go hunting. 707 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,320 I've actually found a gay paranormal investigator that 708 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080 also does drag that I'm going to do an event with next summer and 709 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,800 we're going to, we're going to see what happens with two drag 710 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,480 Queens. But most of the ones around here 711 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,640 that know me, like they all were like, oh, I would love to go 712 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,760 ghost hunting, but nobody's ever really come. 713 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,000 They really just aren't that fazed by it at all. 714 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,120 Drag Queens are very heavily focused on like doing shows and 715 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,600 drag race and all of that. And my focus isn't on shows 716 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,640 anymore. I don't perform on stage unless 717 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,600 it's once a year and I take a booking. 718 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,480 I more or less want to host. I want to be involved in doing 719 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,240 something hands on. I want to be in creepy ass 720 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,920 locations and dressed up as Elvira enticing the spirits to 721 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,120 come out and play and. What outside of the the drag 722 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,840 that you know and the hosting in the pop culture of sort of 723 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,320 powerhouse that you are in the space, What do you walk away 724 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,600 from personally when you go ghost hunting, when you're 725 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,640 dealing with spirits? What do you, how does it touch? 726 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,840 You know what I mean? How does it touch you? 727 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,600 How does it move you? Like what do you what do you 728 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,920 feel you might be getting closer to understanding? 729 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,600 Well, I usually walk away with a lot of exhaustion and I'm tired 730 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,159 for a couple of days. You get like a really good 731 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:19,600 hangover. But I think at the end of the 732 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,280 day, what makes me love doing paranormal is you kind of get 733 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,040 there and you you're kind of have this expectation for what's 734 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,960 going to happen that night. And I feel like it never is what 735 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,800 you expect. And it's always a surprise. 736 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,960 And it's almost like hearing stories from a time that I never 737 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,600 was. And I hate history, so I'm not 738 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,840 going to pick up a history book. But it's different when it's 739 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,920 being told by the people themselves. 740 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,880 And I get to share their stories. 741 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,960 And I own a hair salon. So I talk about this all day 742 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040 with my clients. And it's so cool that I can go 743 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,840 talk to the spirit of Elliot on Saturday and then Wednesday I 744 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,199 can share Elliot's story with a client. 745 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,480 Or for me, it's about sharing that experience. 746 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,800 It's about making people fall in love with the paranormal and 747 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,280 also changing that, that view of what drag is, you know, getting 748 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,040 rid of like drag Queens are scary. 749 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640 They're trying to take our children, you know, but they're 750 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120 not freaking scary. I have a child. 751 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,920 I'm not grooming my child. He does not want to do rag like 752 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,200 we are not scary. Great, That was funny, that was. 753 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,200 Great acceptance. I want to walk away with 754 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,480 acceptance. I want to walk away with other 755 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,800 four children. Have you ever gone deeper? 756 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,200 Like have you ever gone deeper when you've heard something or 757 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,200 felt something and looked it up? Like gone and tried to like what 758 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,080 tell can. You. 759 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,000 Yeah, so I have. So I'm on my 4th book right now, 760 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,960 so the first one's already out. So first book out, second book 761 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,480 coming January 1st. But wait, was. 762 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,840 This The Haunting of Emory Estates, Is that your book? 763 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,480 So that was my first book and then the second one is Haunting 764 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,520 of Hunt Memorial. This one's coming soon. 765 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,560 This was where we had our book party, but we ended up the the 766 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,400 second book took place over three separate investigations. 767 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,600 So we got stuff, we went and researched, we went back, got 768 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,160 more stuff, went and researched, and then we went back. 769 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,360 And then we were led to a cemetery in this book. 770 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,280 And in the cemetery we got more story from this building that is 771 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,640 probably like four or five blocks away from the cemetery. 772 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,440 It was kind of crazy. And like Emory. 773 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,640 I don't think I've been there twice. 774 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,680 I only went there that one night. 775 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,360 But it was just so good. It turned into a book. 776 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,720 The castle's gonna have a book seen Wilson Castle. 777 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,200 We're working on that one. I have a very deep connection to 778 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,840 this castle. It's the first place that let me 779 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,840 in drag. And I, I, I fell in love with 780 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,240 the spirits there. They look forward to me. 781 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:30,160 I bring gifts for them. The grandfather of the spirit of 782 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,280 the castle, the great grandfather of the owner of the 783 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,720 castle, the current living owner is he hits on me when I'm there. 784 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,200 And I was like, you know, nervous to tell the owner of the 785 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,320 castle because I'm like, what do you do? 786 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,720 You tell your, tell them that your great grandfather's ghost 787 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,640 is hitting on a drag queen. And what are they going to say 788 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,680 about that? How are they going to react? 789 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Her reaction was, Oh yeah, he was that dirty old man at the 790 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,920 party that would hit on anything with legs. 791 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,480 And I'm like, OK, I get it right now. 792 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120 You know, for me, it's just this experience that's completely 793 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,720 different and abnormal. And I love the documenting of 794 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,200 it. I think, I think you're 795 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,040 underselling yourself, Monique. I mean, honestly, when you when 796 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,320 we're sitting here talking about like, you know, it's it's pow 797 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,480 and glitter and glam, but to have two books, a third coming 798 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,600 out where you're going back and forth and digging in, that's 799 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,320 legitimate investigation. That's a you know, that's a real 800 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200 that's what a lot of these people are that think they're 801 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,920 doing it, aren't doing, and they might be giving you shit for not 802 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,800 doing it or looking down at you because of how you look for it. 803 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,920 Possibly, I don't know, but you know, but it's that's real 804 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,200 investigation. That's not something to just 805 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,800 blow into the the rug, right? I mean, it's, it feels like you 806 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,680 love that. Yeah, and I'm not just getting 807 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,040 weird comical reactions from the spirit world either. 808 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,200 Obviously that happens, that happens with regular groups. 809 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520 But some people also think that's going to be the case. 810 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,400 They're going to come go something with me and it's going 811 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,160 to be all heels and lashes and and this and that. 812 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,320 But it's not. There's really serious things, 813 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,400 these books. I was in drag for both of these 814 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,600 investigations and there's really nothing related to drag 815 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,560 in these books. You know it, it's not about the 816 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,040 fact that I'm in drag, It's just the energy that was created 817 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,120 those nights and how effective that energy fed both of these 818 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,400 locations. You know, the, the first book of 819 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,840 Emory, we, we had a spirit communicating with a hot or cold 820 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,800 device for almost a whole hour. That is a long time for a spirit 821 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,800 to stay active. Yeah. 822 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,360 And we've turned the thing on and off. 823 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,280 We were doing things to make sure this equipment wasn't 824 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,360 working. Like I don't, I don't know if 825 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,760 I've ever seen ATV show where something is working that long. 826 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,920 Do you do spirit boxes or apps or any of that stuff? 827 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,040 Some of them I don't. I don't, so I take everything 828 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,800 with a grain of salt regardless of what. 829 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,920 It is. Yeah, mediumship and equipment. 830 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160 You, you nothing is ever 100%. Like I said, this is a pair of 831 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,680 science, but it's not a strict science either. 832 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,040 You know that nothing is a fact. Everything we get is opinion 833 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,400 based from what we're getting with our tools and our 834 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,240 equipment. Like my books, I'm not 835 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,800 publishing these as like this is what happened at Wilson Castle. 836 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,800 This is a story of something I got when I was at Wilson Castle 837 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,160 and this is a story that I'm sharing and I was asked to share 838 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,000 with the world. So, but does that mean it's a 839 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,640 fact that happened years and years ago? 840 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,280 No, we really never will know, right? 841 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,200 Unless we find that evidence in history. 842 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:24,360 And once again, you are, you are more of a paranormal 843 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,560 investigator than you let on because the, the one thing with 844 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,440 like for look, I'm trying to learn about this world, right? 845 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,320 And I'm meeting, I want to get different perspectives from 846 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,400 everybody. And I've met a lot of 847 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,280 parapsychologists and things like that. 848 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,440 What you know, one of my favourites is this guy Steve 849 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,560 Parsons, the, you know, John, the, the UK guy, he wrote this 850 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,960 book called Ghostology where it's a, you know, people for 851 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,920 some reason, every Dick who grabs an EMF meter or K2 thing 852 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,400 thinks they're a scientist because they've got it. 853 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,320 It's like, well, this is what it is, right? 854 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,680 This is my, I'm a scientist. And therefore it's like, no man, 855 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600 you don't even know what it does. 856 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,360 You just think you know, and that's not what. 857 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,000 Science lights up and makes noise. 858 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,440 And it's like that's not what science is. 859 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,640 And even just what you just said shows that you think more 860 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,280 critically and scientifically than half of them out there. 861 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,640 Do you go to these para conferences and things like 862 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,560 that? Do you? 863 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,360 I've been invited to a few and I tend to do them. 864 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,640 They're very exhausting for me because like I said, I'm in 865 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,240 costume all day, 2 days in a row normally. 866 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:33,040 Sometimes I'm at a VIP party. Being in drag that much is very 867 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000 hard. I have signed on to do 2 next 868 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,320 year and it was just because I was invited. 869 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,880 I typically don't reach out to them anymore, but I was invited 870 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,800 to do one in Atlantic City and I'm going to be investigating 871 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,680 the Apsicon Lighthouse as the VIP party. 872 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,640 That's cool. Yeah, really cool. 873 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,360 And then I'm going to be doing the main Paracon this year. 874 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,640 And how have those things been for you when you go? 875 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,320 So I've had positive and negative Paracon experiences, 876 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,920 mostly positive. I've been yelled at by the owner 877 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,400 of one of the paracons in front of guests. 878 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,080 Yeah. Oh, just being there. 879 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:11,840 Oh, no kidding. Yeah, just being me and got 880 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,800 yelled at in front of a whole group of people. 881 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320 I've definitely had a lot of support from people. 882 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,160 I've had people come up to me and be like, I've been following 883 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,560 you that are celebrities and I'm like, why are you following me? 884 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,800 Like, you know, like, and they're like, I love what you're 885 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,800 doing. Keep doing it. 886 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,880 Don't let anyone dull you. But you do, like I said, you do. 887 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,760 You get some that are great and then you can tell the ones that 888 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,640 are just laughing in your face as they're talking to you. 889 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,080 Oh, listen, we get John and I are both, you know, these 890 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,520 partial Italian straight white guys who went to Catholic school 891 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,240 who now are atheists. We get so much religious like 892 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:48,480 hate and you know, for, for being that way, like sort of 893 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,120 shunning how we grew up in, in, in so many ways. 894 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,920 I can't even imagine what you have to go through with that 895 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,880 with those crazies because look, there's a lot of crazy in this 896 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,440 in the paranormal space, especially the the keyboard 897 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,200 warriors online, you know, do you go, are you active on social 898 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,080 media still? Like do you post a lot? 899 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,320 Do you do your? Yeah, I do. 900 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,480 And I I try to post a lot of videos when I do go 901 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640 investigating and stuff from the events. 902 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,920 I'm not super active. One thing I've learned a lot 903 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,720 about social media is people, like you said, they're keyboard 904 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,240 warriors. Yes. 905 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:26,440 Yeah, listen to a thing they said. 906 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,960 Yeah, something that I've always admired that RuPaul has always 907 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,280 said on RuPaul's Drag Race is other people's opinions are none 908 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,520 of my business about me. So, you know, and that's kind of 909 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,240 like you just got to stay out of it because there is so much 910 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,520 negativity. And I have people that like will 911 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,320 follow me and say all these amazing things to me on Facebook 912 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,120 about how much they love what I'm doing or this. 913 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,720 So they'll meet me at events. They'll be like, you're really 914 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,160 just such a a great person. And then they'll go on Facebook 915 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,200 and post like an anti drag political thing about how they 916 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,120 think trash should be illegal and be like, what do you mean? 917 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,080 You're you don't even know what you're talking about. 918 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,440 You just told me you love me to my face and now you're trashing 919 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,960 my whole community on Facebook. So crazy. 920 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,480 What do you Yeah, Monique, what would you, what do you want like 921 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,920 10 years from now when they look at Monique too soon? 922 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,640 What do you want your sort of legacy in this space to be? 923 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,040 I want locations. Thank you. 924 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,160 I really just want locations to take me seriously, to want to 925 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,200 work with me. I want people to like see the 926 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,120 see the glitter in this. I want people to see that it 927 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,880 doesn't just have to be black and white. 928 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,440 There can be color. There can be different people, 929 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,440 there can be different kinds of paranormal investigation. 930 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,880 It's not always going to be this little cookie cutter thing 931 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,880 that's been created by, you know, television over the past 932 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,200 20 years. It's got to change. 933 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,720 There's it's due for something fun, something fresh and I have 934 00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:51,920 fun with paranormal and I think everybody should have fun. 935 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,000 I think everybody should be laughing at every event. 936 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:57,480 I don't think it should be so serious and so cut and dry. 937 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,760 And like I said, I think the the paranormal world in 10 years, I 938 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,320 would just like to see color. I feel like we're all part of 939 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,520 the island of Misfit toys from Red Nosed Reindeer in so many 940 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,880 ways. And I put myself in that 941 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,160 category too, where it's like, you know, the elf that wants to 942 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520 be a dentist and you, you remember, what was the, what was 943 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,360 the guy's name? Who? 944 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,920 God damn, what's his name? Not Yukon Cornelius. 945 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,640 That's the. Minor. 946 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,360 Yukon's the minor. I can't remember the. 947 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,280 That's in my head because we're so close to Christmas. 948 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,960 Do you remember what Dick Santa is in that? 949 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:30,960 He's. Oh yeah. 950 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Dick. They're all, they're all. 951 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,160 They're all Angel. Wait, wait, hold on a second. 952 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,680 People are gay, dude. Oh my God. 953 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,400 But really? Do you remember this one? 954 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,520 I mean, do you remember Rudolf the Red Nose Santa? 955 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,120 Is he touched a Dick to like when you know he has Rudolph and 956 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,000 he's like, you're going to bring that shit, you're going to cover 957 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,400 that boy up. You know, it's like he's, if you 958 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,800 don't remember what I'm saying, please go watch Rudolph Reindeer 959 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,400 and you're going to see like. Oh, it's it's it's that whole 960 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,720 movie is euthanisms for so many different. 961 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:06,040 Things so crazy and yeah, they are so mean and so nasty. 962 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,560 Especially Santa. And then it's like, oh, well, 963 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:12,600 it's so stormy out. And then it's like, oh, now, now 964 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,040 you need the kid with the Red Nose. 965 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,160 You pretty? Yeah, right. 966 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,240 It's unbelievable how bad it is. It's unbelievable. 967 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,240 So funny how some television just didn't age well. 968 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,400 No I don't. It's crazy but it but the point 969 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,080 being that they're the ones who saved it, right? 970 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,080 Like all the misfits save it because it does get so 971 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,840 exhausting to hear the critics and the critique. 972 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,000 And it's like, why? Why do it this way? 973 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,360 Why is it any less legitimate? Why is this belief system any 974 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,720 less legitimate? Why is what I'm and 975 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,600 scientifically everything what you're saying doesn't sound you, 976 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,320 sounds like you're doing it even better than most. 977 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,640 But science doesn't care. That's the thing. 978 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,920 Science doesn't care, right? Like, and that's why what she's 979 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:04,000 doing is awesome, because it doesn't matter if she dresses up 980 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,560 in drag, if she dresses up like a big fiery red dragon and goes 981 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,080 to these locations, the actual, the science of it doesn't care, 982 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,080 doesn't care what color we are, what we sound like, what we look 983 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,160 like. It's the people. 984 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:24,840 It's the people in the community that care, you know, and 985 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,680 sometimes they could be quite horrible in their, you know, 986 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,680 responses and, and to the stimuli, if you will, you know. 987 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,280 You think everybody, Monique has some sort of ability in 988 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,840 paranormal. What's your experience been with 989 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,960 around other people or some of the people you take on tour or 990 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,600 have you? Yeah. 991 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,200 What do you think that is? I think everyone fits in 992 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,280 somewhere and I've spent probably 15 years building a 993 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,000 team of people that I personally think we work good together too 994 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,560 because I feel like some people battery other people in this 995 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,040 world. Who about your team? 996 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,640 What's your team made-up? How do you know that? 997 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,160 Yeah, so I have why I always have my husband with me. 998 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120 And then I have my friend Lexie, who is a medium. 999 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,840 She'll be with me at the Apcom Lighthouse. 1000 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,520 Well, don't jump ahead. What's your husband do? 1001 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,200 What's Why is he a good part of the team? 1002 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,160 I mean, outside of being a life partner, I'm talking about what 1003 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,520 makes him a good paranormal investigative partner. 1004 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,440 Not really much, to be honest. He's kind of he. 1005 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,160 He's gonna bringing things up the stairs for me. 1006 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,000 I love to. Say he carries your bags. 1007 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,920 Nothing. Heavy lifting he's. 1008 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,200 A heavy lifter, hey? Yeah, he's a heavy lifter. 1009 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,480 He's gonna kill me. He's probably listening and he's 1010 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,560 gonna murder me. And then I have a medium named 1011 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,400 Lexi that I bring everywhere. And the thing with me and Lexi 1012 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,440 is we can. We did a show of dark echoes 1013 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,240 together and we finished each other's minds. 1014 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,480 So like, we'll be thinking the same thing, and then we'll just 1015 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,120 start talking about it. And then people will be like, 1016 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,040 what are you talking about? We'll be filling in answers or 1017 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,880 something and we were filmed blindfolded at a place and we 1018 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,960 were pulling out a whole story blindfolded like it was crazy. 1019 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,480 And then I I battery up with another medium like that. 1020 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,280 And then the co-author of my book I'm. 1021 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,640 Sorry, what did you just call that? 1022 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,560 You battery? What? 1023 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,520 Battery up with another medium. It's almost like our charges 1024 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,200 connect the correct way and we make even more action happen. 1025 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,680 It's like you feed images to each other and it's only 1026 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,880 happened with two people before. I've worked with hundreds and 1027 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,760 hundreds, hundreds of people and it's only happened with two 1028 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,720 people that and me and one of them is a dark witch medium from 1029 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,640 Florida and the other one's my friend Lexie who lives in 1030 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,440 Vermont. And I don't know why it does it. 1031 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,520 It it's just really weird. If I sit back-to-back with Lexie 1032 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,520 at the castle, a couple of months ago, we were unfolding 1033 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,640 someone buried in the back of the castle. 1034 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,240 And I would say one thing. And she would be like, oh, yeah, 1035 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,320 And the leaves are on her face. She threw up, she got hit in the 1036 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,240 head with, and then I'll start feeding something else. 1037 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,120 We're just, it's so weird. But it doesn't happen every 1038 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,640 time. It happens so randomly. 1039 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,760 And then other than that, on my team, like I said that my friend 1040 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,360 Nora, who's from Florida, it's just her. 1041 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,840 Perfect. You said she's a dark witch. 1042 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,240 Yeah, So my friend N from Florida, she's just a darker 1043 00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:59,960 medium. I I think she's just someone, 1044 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,640 you know, you always hear people that are like, I'm a light 1045 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000 witch, I'm a dark witch. She's just someone that is 1046 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,800 curious about things that other people are afraid of. 1047 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,120 So she she'll tend to walk closer to those lines versus, 1048 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,400 you know, like someone else will step away from things they're 1049 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,880 afraid of. I am one of those investigators 1050 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,120 that's not a big demon person. I'm not necessarily a believer 1051 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,720 in things that are more biblical created things. 1052 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,600 I I more of it's a ghost, it's a person or it was not a person, 1053 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,560 but I don't really believe necessarily in that stuff. 1054 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,840 You mentioned that before that you think that there are spirits 1055 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,840 that are non human. What do you think it is? 1056 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,400 I believe that's land elemental. That's, that's really what I'm 1057 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,000 talking about with that elemental. 1058 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,000 Yeah. So things that are connected to 1059 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,360 the land and you find a lot of those in like places is where 1060 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,280 there was heavy Native American history. 1061 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,800 Like The Conjuring House is one of those. 1062 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,520 And that's a place I I hosted New Year's Eve for a couple of 1063 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,720 years and that has a very weird elemental energy to it. 1064 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,280 There are psychics that have gone there and said it's made 1065 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,080 offers to them. You know, when you enter The 1066 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,840 Conjuring House, it's almost like you drive into like a Jelly 1067 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,000 mold and when you're in there, everything just shakes and 1068 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,120 you're stuck in this Jelly mold of energy and it's so heavy, but 1069 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,880 it's not one specific thing. It's like the land is feeding 1070 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,120 that whole house. Like I don't think that the, 1071 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,280 the, the story of The Conjuring, everything is Hollywood. 1072 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,400 The, the real story behind it is just this eclectic amount of 1073 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,640 energy. And then they threw in all these 1074 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,800 kids and a family and they just fed the energy more and more and 1075 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,200 more. And it grows when you're feeding 1076 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,000 it, right? Yeah, we had Andrea, Andrea on 1077 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,600 the show and we get, we did an interview with her and she's 1078 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,920 such a pleasant human being, you know, such an awesome soul. 1079 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,400 And yeah, he basically told us the same thing, you know? 1080 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,240 You know, and John, but that this, this Jelly mold. 1081 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,200 I know, I know. And so everybody listening to is 1082 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,440 going to be like, wait a minute, John, you talk about the Jelly. 1083 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,480 The Jelly mold. Well, see, I think like my thing 1084 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,440 is when I download the apps that John uses on his in his live 1085 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,520 feed to get the feedback, he goes, I don't get the reaction 1086 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,560 he gets. I just don't get it. 1087 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,480 I think that's me. I think that's, I, I think these 1088 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:17,240 are all tools that play off the user and John gets good reaction 1089 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,520 'cause I think some, I think he's, he might be a witch or 1090 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,280 whatever he is that's got whatever he's got going on. 1091 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,280 It's that witchy sauce. That's it. 1092 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,280 When he feels that he is constantly describes it as 1093 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,280 exactly what you just said, like he is in like he is inside a 1094 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,080 gel, a jello mold that's shaking, you know, like that's 1095 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,360 that's how he knows some something atmospheric. 1096 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,840 I want to jump back though, to when you're talking about 1097 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,480 elemental, you know, but are they why? 1098 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,800 You know, they're asking for things like what? 1099 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,240 So I got. My head around what that means 1100 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,800 or how you see it or feel it rather. 1101 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,440 Yeah, so that's not something I have a lot of experience with. 1102 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,280 I have experience with Elementals, but I'm not someone 1103 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,240 that's ever been given an offer or any of this. 1104 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,840 But I heard this story from a medium and it kind of always 1105 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,480 resounded with me 'cause I was a big fan of the show 1106 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,880 Supernatural. And do you remember in the show 1107 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,360 Supernatural where they would have the crossroads demon and 1108 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,800 the Crossroads demon would give you that option? 1109 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,520 Like I'll give you this if you do this for me or something. 1110 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,760 And I, and there was a really well known medium. 1111 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,440 I won't say the person's name, but I believe this person is 1112 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,800 really sensitive. And they had made a post about 1113 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,800 after going to The Conjuring house about how they had this, 1114 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,640 they had felt like they were given an offer and from this 1115 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,240 land spirit. And I mean, do I 100% know 1116 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:35,240 that's true? No. 1117 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,480 But I, I want to believe in my head that that could have 1118 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,920 actually been a real thing. Because if you think about 1119 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,040 elemental, it's heavy, big energy. 1120 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,840 It's not a little spirit energy, it's not a human. 1121 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,360 It's it's land, it's earth, it's fire, it's water, it's. 1122 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,240 Existence. Guys what? 1123 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,200 Have you ever heard of? Course. 1124 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,200 Have you ever feel like you've come across something that could 1125 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,360 be elemental as opposed to interdimensional or quant like 1126 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,240 things that you believe in? I can't say that I have on that 1127 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:13,000 aspect. However, I have come across 1128 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:19,480 places where the land seems to have its own heartbeat, if you 1129 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,960 will. You're in new. 1130 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,840 York, right? Yeah, I'm in New York. 1131 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,200 I'm right near New York City. And still have. 1132 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,480 Yeah, yeah. So I, I'm sorry, what did you 1133 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,080 say that? It's. 1134 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,040 The the Hinsdale house in New York, that is one of those 1135 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,320 properties that has a pulse. Yeah, yeah, I've heard, I 1136 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,360 haven't been there, but I've heard, I've heard of that place. 1137 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,080 Buck Out, for example, is one of those places that has its own 1138 00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,600 heartbeat, if you will, you know. 1139 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,760 But yeah, no, I, as far as elementals are an interesting 1140 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,080 topic. You know, so many people believe 1141 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,760 in different things, but one thing that is always described 1142 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,280 with elementals is this separation of human spirit to 1143 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:05,120 actual, like, power and energy and how different and almost 1144 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:12,040 monumental it feels compared to, say, something minuscule like a 1145 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,040 regular spirit. So yeah. 1146 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,360 Are there anybody who are your some of your mentors, Monique, 1147 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,280 in this space? You read anybody who taught you 1148 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,000 and. Nobody TV taught me. 1149 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,200 I, I kind of taught myself and I started learning the equipment 1150 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,960 and I've been kind of taken under the wing of some people 1151 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,160 like Sam Baltrusis, who's a, a medium. 1152 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,760 Yep. Yep, we've had Sam on Sam. 1153 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,720 A great guy, yes, he's, he's, we've done a lot of events 1154 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:39,520 together. Heidi's been great with me. 1155 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,120 I'm very close with Andrea Perrin as well. 1156 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,760 I was I, I, I, I talk on the to Andrea on the phone almost every 1157 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,600 day by text message. But two of the people that have 1158 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,080 really been really good to me are the gross Nick and Tessa. 1159 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,280 I'm really close with Tessa Groff. 1160 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,000 Nick Groff is one of the original Ghost Adventures guys. 1161 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they've really just been the 1162 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,720 some of the kindest people on in this whole world to me. 1163 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:08,000 And the kindness goes so far with me because I put on this 1164 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,320 facade, I walk into a place with my head head hell high. 1165 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,720 But things do get under my skin here and there. 1166 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,120 And, you know, you got to kind of like, almost like not show 1167 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,480 that because if they know they're getting under your skin, 1168 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,480 you kind of got to like, you can't let them know it because 1169 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,640 then they're it's going to get worse. 1170 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,960 So all you got to do is next time, just tell them how 1171 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,160 disappointed you are. That's it. 1172 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,680 Next time something starts to get under your skin, just be 1173 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,520 like, you know what? I'm so disappointed in you. 1174 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,080 You know, you're really showing just how like, bad humanity 1175 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,280 could be. How disappointing is that? 1176 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,960 You know, that really gets to people. 1177 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,200 Like when I deal with trolls, you kill them with kindness. 1178 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,840 You tell them how disappointed you are, they lose it, they lose 1179 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,720 it, you know, so that's something that you know, a 1180 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,160 little technique I've done because I'm always dealing with 1181 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,280 people trying to get under my skin and I can only imagine for 1182 00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:01,200 you, you know, just being yourself and being this what's 1183 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,480 the best way for me to put it? You walk into a room, you're 1184 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,080 like a bright light, you know, multi colored bright light you. 1185 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,040 Know in this black T-shirt world we're living in, it's like it is 1186 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,680 a it's so fun. I love it. 1187 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,440 I like I said, I love, but I'm, I'm a bit of an anarchist, I 1188 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,080 think I do. Yeah, me too. 1189 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,920 Yeah, yeah, I just. And especially with the an, you 1190 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,520 know, an anarchist and a disruptor with credibility just 1191 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,800 makes it that much more awesome to me. 1192 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,560 I think you're so great, Monique. 1193 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,480 What do you want? What can we promote for you? 1194 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,200 Where do you want the people to find you? 1195 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,080 I mean outside of your books? We will put links to those books 1196 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,480 in our link tree for. Sure. 1197 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,240 What do you have like a web? What's your the go to website 1198 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:46,760 where people can find out about your events? 1199 00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:50,080 Moniquetoosoon.com has everything from paracons to 1200 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,200 events and any tickets will be available through there as well. 1201 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,560 My books are available on Amazon and honestly Monique too soon on 1202 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,360 all social media. You can find me anywhere, just 1203 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,440 type my name in. I can't thank you enough for 1204 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,080 giving us, for taking the time with us. 1205 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:05,560 We really. Yeah. 1206 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,480 Thank you. It's great. 1207 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,440 I think you have a unique voice. I think you are skilled and I it 1208 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,240 is really is interesting to hear your perspective on not just the 1209 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,200 what spirits are, but the paranormal world in general. 1210 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,720 I find it refreshing and sort and I just find it interesting. 1211 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,640 I think it's really cool. I think it's really cool man, I 1212 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,160 appreciate. You too. 1213 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,720 Thank you much. One of my favorite movies I've 1214 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,280 done. There's this great podcast. 1215 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,200 I appreciate. That we're trying to figure it 1216 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,760 out as we go a little bit but we're doing all right. 1217 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,800 We had a really good Spotify wrap up, gave us a really big 1218 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,920 ego boost. This. 1219 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,960 Really dead. For us, like the top 5% of all 1220 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,560 videos watched on Spotify, that's brag, but that's. 1221 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,120 Amazing. We were all new shows. 1222 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,000 People watched us more than 95% of all other new podcasts 1223 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,560 launching 2025. I love it. 1224 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,480 We are. Yeah. 1225 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,160 We're gonna wear that. We're gonna brag about that for 1226 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,560 all through 2026. Bring that there everywhere. 1227 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:09,880 We are. We're about to. 1228 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,240 We're trying. We're gonna read it all. 1229 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,960 But people seem to like how we're doing it. 1230 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,680 We're trying to do more. And I think the key is I want 1231 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,280 voices like yours. Yeah, we want amazing guests 1232 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,480 like yours, like you 100%. You need perspectives, you know, 1233 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,080 everyone thinks they knows what what ghosts are, but no one 1234 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,760 knows what the hell a ghost is. I mean, it's like if we knew 1235 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,880 what a ghost was, the world would change as we know it. 1236 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,360 It's bigger than AI. So it's like it's fun to figure 1237 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,720 it out and hear people's personal experiences with it, 1238 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,520 you know? And I really value your time and 1239 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,440 your unique perspective on this movie. 1240 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,920 Thank you. Thank you so much. 1241 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,760 Thank you guys so much for having me. 1242 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,200 Thank you. Definitely. 1243 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,520 Well, that's it for another episode of Splintered Spirits. 1244 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,320 Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to our YouTube 1245 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,600 channel, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1246 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,000 Until next time, stay curious.