1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,240 Oh, we are live. Yes, we are. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Here we go. What is going on? 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,120 All right. Sorry for the late start. 4 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:16,200 Everybody wait. We we all know why. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:23,240 If you were following young Satan out in the cemetery, did 6 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:24,680 you do that? Did you put that up there? 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,080 I like it. I like it a lot. 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,560 You know, I'm a fan. You know I'm a fan. 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,119 Of the well, listen, that's my, that's my, that's my rapper 10 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,960 name. Is it mine's still my? 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,560 I got, I got into hip hop a brief stint, you know, I wasn't 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,320 successful as a rapper, but I gained mucho success as an ASMR 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,720 artist. Interesting, my rap name is 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,960 Tone. Deaf, tone deaf yo. 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,760 We should collab yo young Satan and tone deaf It's. 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,520 An old dad joke. So I I nailed the dad jokes, 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,760 guys, nail them. Yeah, dad jokes. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,560 All right, we got a lot of people joining us. 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Welcome. Welcome. 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,880 I like it. Thank you for being here. 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Splinter Spirits live, dude. We got a lot to go over, lot of 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,840 stuff. So we'll get into it first. 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,720 So I was talking to, I got some good stuff lined up. 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,360 I was talking to our friend and collaborator and our one of our 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,240 first guests, Lloyd hour back. If everybody remembers episode 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:32,160 4, Lloyd was, he is on so many boards and he's been doing this 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,240 for so long in the paranormal space. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,120 And Kathy's been helping me out. Kathy Nadal, our, our guests, 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,440 our psychic medium guests as well. 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,560 They're just so plugged in and we have some really fun 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,040 perspectives lined up for people and hopefully this is all going 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,760 to work out. I want to talk to, you know, I 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,000 want to talk to the Forever Family Foundation. 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,720 I want to find out what they're testing is for psychics. 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Can you, I'm sorry to cut you off. 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 I was talking about about them earlier in one of my lives. 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,680 I didn't have all the details. Can you explain exactly what 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,680 they are and they're? Yeah, I can for sure for the 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,200 look, by the way, I can only tell you from what I know what 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:19,880 they are so and, you know, they are a nonprofit organization 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,040 that actually helps with people who are grieving from loss 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,480 primarily. So it's like, you know, when a 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,680 family loses someone and they want to, you know, use a medium 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,040 to help them get through those times, The Forever Family 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Foundation helps them with the grieving process. 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 So they go through, you know, someone like Kathy goes through 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,960 a very rigorous testing because they don't want to send, I 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,960 guess, you know, they don't feel like they want to send a fraud 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,880 out to somebody to take advantage of them in those 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,080 times. And it's, it's, it's 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,880 not-for-profit. So they go in and that's what 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,040 they do. And they just help people get 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,640 through these rough times, you know? 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,200 And it's non profit. So they do not, they do not make 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,800 a dime. Well, I guess, you know, 56 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,000 probably works off donations or something, but they're not 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 asking people that they're helping for, you know, I don't 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,560 think like the work Kathy does when she does it with the 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,400 Forever Family Foundation, she doesn't get paid. 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,080 She gets paid as a psychic medium for other things, but not 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,400 of course if she goes and sits with a family or something like 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,400 that as far as I understand it. As far as I understand, isn't 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,880 that phenomenal? It's crazy, right? 64 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,960 Yeah, I think that's amazing. Well, it adds a little bit like 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,400 to me, it makes it feel less. All right, Well, that's a little 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,920 less slimy, you know what I mean? 67 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:34,920 And it's just sort of like from a psychic. 68 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,040 Yeah. It's like, oh, maybe they're 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,240 what's going on. So I want to meet with the guy 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,880 who founded that. That process is like, I've got 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,640 an author. You know, we're talking, we do a 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,320 lot of tech. We talk a lot of tech on this 73 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,040 show and on this podcast. And you use a lot of tech. 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,160 It's a big part of the future of paranormal. 75 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,880 And I'm talking to someone who wrote a book on, you know, 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,080 paranormal and phones. So we, you know, hopefully we'll 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,560 get him on soon, which is really a big focus. 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Also talking. I'm, I'm reaching out to, I want 79 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,480 to reach out to the Ryan Institute. 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,200 They do a lot of psychic testing, paranormal testing of 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,519 people and just sort of what that all means. 82 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:19,160 And I, I just like hearing these people who study it. 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,560 What do they think spirits are versus what you think spirits 84 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,080 are? And how do, how is there any 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,560 sort of connection into all this stuff? 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,400 You know what I mean? Which could be wild. 87 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:30,160 I mean, it just could be totally wild. 88 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:34,000 So that's good. What's going on in your world? 89 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,760 You know, the usual just got back from a cemetery. 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,760 I'm pretty sure everybody watching knows that, you know, 91 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,400 we just got back from a cemetery. 92 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,320 Yeah, normal. You know, we, we sat down a bit, 93 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,160 we went for a walk, came across a very interesting spirit named 94 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,280 Abby. I don't think it's my first time 95 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:55,240 speaking with her, though, or at least somebody around that plot. 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,760 And a very, very kind, respectful spirit, you know, 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,880 even said nice to meet you. You know, just yeah, yeah, very, 98 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,320 very. I like it when the nice ones 99 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,600 come through. And she was, you know, 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,240 responsive and nice and just to normal, you know, that's what 101 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,600 that's what today was so far. And then unfortunately the cold 102 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,440 weather has started drizzling, hence the late start because we 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,160 were supposed to do this from there. 104 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Today, Yeah. Oh, that would be wild. 105 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Yeah, well, it sucks. The weather's terrible, and 106 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,680 hopefully the spring will pick up some fun spots and fun 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,760 locations for all this stuff. Look, dude, we got a lot, you 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,440 know, we had a big week. We dropped episode 8, which was 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,120 a super fun episode and that's with Kathy and you in the 110 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,400 fireplace room. Anybody who's, you know, not 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,280 familiar with the podcast as of yet. 112 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:44,520 We got episodes one through 8 out are out now and there's some 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,200 really there's a great thing in episode 8 and we're going to 114 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,160 talk about it. If you're watching me on TikTok, 115 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,560 go to YT. You'll get the full experience 116 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,680 for this 'cause we're about to drop some clips and show you, 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,040 but so sorry, I'm stuttering around. 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,160 I'm going to show some video here to get people to understand 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,320 what we're talking about. But to remind everyone, and it 120 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,480 took one of our, it took one of our fans to point this out. 121 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,000 So we ran a test in episodes two and three, dealing with our 122 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,920 favorite spirit or my favorite spirit. 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,200 We love to hate Mr. Edward, who is the nastiest ghost in the 124 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,160 fireplace room. And we were speaking to it in 125 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,360 episode 2. We speak to a younger, there he 126 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,200 is. We speak to a younger version of 127 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:33,160 Edward, and we ran a little game on him telling him who I was, 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 and then we were. Then we lied about it to the 129 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:44,000 older Edward in the fireplace room in episode 3 to see if 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,480 spirits are connected. Because Johnny, why? 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,120 Why do we? Why are we wondering whether or 132 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,440 not spirits are connected? To remind everybody what the 133 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,600 theory is. So the theory is that spirits 134 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:59,560 are memories and two memories can be in two separate 135 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,560 locations, same spirit, two different memories. 136 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,920 So we wanted to see, since Edward is a very strong spirit, 137 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,160 if Edward is in two different spots because I got lucky enough 138 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:19,200 to find what is claiming to be a child version of him, or at 139 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,280 least is coming through that way. 140 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,920 That is a child version of Edward, memories being by his 141 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,240 plot, which is wild to begin with. 142 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,320 So we decided to run a test. So let me show you because in 143 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,240 episode 8, John and I effed up. We didn't hear it, We got it 144 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,480 backwards and it took a fan to point it out to us. 145 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,720 So I'm going to show you. Let me jump to this clip and 146 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,280 then and you guys lot watch what happens. 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,240 So this is from episode 8, and then I'm going to cut back to 148 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,440 episodes two and three and then we're going to figure, see, 149 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,200 we're going to talk about this for a second. 150 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,440 Oh wow, he knows you're the uncle. 151 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Johnny. Oh my God, Johnny. 152 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Who did we tell him I was? That's right, the test start 153 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,600 theory. I said you were my SO. 154 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,320 We told the little version of him that that he was my brother. 155 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Wrong. We got that completely wrong 156 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,000 according to my. Here we go. 157 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Technically, these two spirits shouldn't be connected. 158 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,360 I've got, I've got 1. Edward. 159 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,440 Edward, this man that I'm speaking to that you can hear, 160 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,720 this is my Uncle Gary. That's the young version, my 161 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,919 dad. You hate your dad. 162 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,039 OK, well, this is my uncle. This isn't my father. 163 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,240 This is my uncle. All right? 164 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,360 I just want it. I'm gonna. 165 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,360 This is my uncle Gary. So, you know, for the next time. 166 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,800 Stroke. OK, Stroke. 167 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,840 He said remember now in Episode 3. 168 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:59,920 What do you think of my brother? What do I do? 169 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Do you know? I I, unfortunately, I do know 170 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,160 what you do. That's the problem. 171 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,120 That's why I'm here. But tell me about tell. 172 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,280 I think he might have been talking to you, you know? 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,640 No, dude, I don't want to talk. I mean. 174 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,280 That's that's directly talking to you, to be honest. 175 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,640 But tell me. Tell me what you tell me. 176 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,520 Who? About my brother. 177 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,440 All right, so all right. Where does that leave us? 178 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Because now he called me eventually he called me uncle 179 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:41,320 and we never told him that. So now look, does this prove 180 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,400 that all spirits are connected? No. 181 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:49,720 It's one piece of data, but it was one test that we gave that 182 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,840 sort of crazily where you, what do you, what do you? 183 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,600 You're the one who documents, bro. 184 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,600 What do you make of all this? OK. 185 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,880 So as you said, it's one piece of data. 186 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,800 So what we're going to do is we're going to dive into that 187 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,200 one piece of data first and foremost. 188 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,680 This test might have been set up for failure to begin with, for 189 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:17,320 the simple fact that I have no idea what is in my actual 190 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,000 apartment. Listening. 191 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:29,280 Who knows what information Edward is being fed from other 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,920 spirits within the building itself? 193 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Who knows if Edward himself isn't up there listening? 194 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Are you saying he's cheating? Yeah, that son of a bitch 195 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,440 cheating. That's not of a but we'll think 196 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,440 about it. It's Edward. 197 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,040 He's cunning dude. Ruining your science? 198 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,360 He's cunning. So that's the first thing. 199 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,840 That's what that's a possibility. 200 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,440 The second also is he did, he did say uncle. 201 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,480 OK, he did say uncle, but how do we know that that one word was 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:11,080 directed towards us? Well, I mean, I know it looks 203 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,480 like it's. Not like it's not like a spirit 204 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:19,360 who's well known for saying full sentences said, hey, that's your 205 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,120 uncle, You're his uncle. But if all the words in the 206 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,720 universe, it's a little bit weird that it would say. 207 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,280 Uncle. Yes, yes. 208 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Yes, you know what I mean. It's like we're sitting here. 209 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,360 Yes, no, that is true. But it's also, you know it also. 210 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,200 Started the whole play on this shit. 211 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,360 There's the whole thing is, you know, Yeah, yeah. 212 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,920 So it's. A little. 213 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,000 So we have to test, we have, we have to find another spirit to 214 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,560 test that theory on. Yeah, we do. 215 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,920 What are you thinking? This is what I'm thinking. 216 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,720 There is another spirit where I could we could test this theory. 217 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,400 He's come through once here, maybe twice his. 218 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Name is here being where you are right now. 219 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,680 Being where I'm at right now, his name is Ernest. 220 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,440 I've heard him spoke of and I think I'm pretty sure I actually 221 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,520 spoke to him OK at least once or twice here in the in the in the 222 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,400 tower. And Ernest Simons is the owner 223 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,200 of this place. He's the one that created the 224 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,800 the factory and ran the business. 225 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:33,640 I also have spoken to him where he's buried so he would be the 226 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,440 next spirit. The only problem with Ernest is 227 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,560 that he's not that strong. Some of the people in the chat 228 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:44,840 are throwing out names John, Anne or Mamie. 229 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:54,480 So. So only problem with Mamie is I 230 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:02,040 don't know where she lives when she was alive, and as far as and 231 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Purdy goes, I don't know if I would be allowed access to where 232 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,280 she was living when she was alive. 233 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Got it. So. 234 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,800 And I, Jesse. Jesse has a great point. 235 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,160 But I don't think I I went through it, I didn't hear it and 236 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,680 it's. No, it doesn't. 237 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:24,160 It doesn't mean that. I would never said it, but like, 238 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,400 well that's what you're talking about. 239 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Like when you're saying that was like when you were talking about 240 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,200 when you're, you're saying in your apartment or something 241 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,160 where the spirits are in the apartment hearing you because 242 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,600 because Jess in the order of things, we never went, I never 243 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,120 went to the fireplace room until that first episode. 244 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:52,760 That was my first time in there, you know, for this recording. 245 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,640 So you know, it had episode 2 happened 1st and then we went 246 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,800 back and filmed down there and then it wasn't for like a couple 247 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,000 of weeks later we went back with Kathy and and that and then this 248 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,680 happened. So could it have been said ever? 249 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,800 Maybe. But it's still the timeline in 250 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,960 the time between episode 2 and episode 8. 251 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,760 I don't, I was not, I have not been in that room. 252 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,160 So I don't know when that would have happened. 253 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,520 And that was before I was back in the apartment for Christmas. 254 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,360 So it's, it's hard to say, you know, yes, it's hard to say. 255 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:38,880 The odds are low that we slipped because I haven't heard it. 256 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,040 I was really, I was after that we got that pointed out, I went 257 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,640 back and listened, which is like unfun. 258 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,000 So even though I enjoy it, it's just like unfun. 259 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,720 Listen to all the raw footage and everything else. 260 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,800 But I don't know, man, it's crazy. 261 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,640 It's not like I always call you Uncle Gary. 262 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Either that's the time I. Call you Gary. 263 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,880 Yes, you know, I will call you Uncle Gary. 264 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,040 It's just not, you know, not on the, not on the regular. 265 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,440 It's not like every time I I say I, I address you. 266 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,800 I'm like uncle. Gary, Uncle. 267 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Gary, that's crazy. It's crazy. 268 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,680 Yeah, anyway, so. All right, so we've got Ernest. 269 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,560 He's here. Where do you think he what? 270 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,080 Where do you think the other version was again? 271 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,960 At the at the cemetery I was at today. 272 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,480 That's OK. And So what I'll tell you how 273 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,560 that went. The first time I spoke to him, 274 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,400 it was kind of hard because he was kind of weak. 275 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,440 You know, it was like, you know, I wasn't really getting much. 276 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,280 But when I came here, he didn't know who I was. 277 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,120 So. But then again, like I said, I 278 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,520 got very little data on that. It would have to be, you know, 279 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,280 we would need to go there, sit down, right, you know, try to 280 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,840 talk to him. And then I don't even think we 281 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,680 should run a test. I say we try to talk to him and 282 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,720 then I come back here and see if he remembers me. 283 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Yeah. I mean, it's just that's a 284 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,880 that's a start. Yeah, you. 285 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,640 Know someone in the chat asked this question? 286 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Can spirits read minds? What do we, so I, I do touch on 287 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,480 this, I do touch on this slightly in my live stream on 288 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,680 TikTok. OK, there has been and this 289 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,280 cannot be denied. There has been many times where 290 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,160 I would be speaking and the spirit will finish what I am 291 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,440 going to say. It actually happens quite a bit. 292 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,360 And what I've realized as is that things that are on the tip 293 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,960 of my tongue, the spirits will say before I get to say it. 294 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:44,480 So I don't know with that information, if spirits do kind 295 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:51,200 of have access to our brains in a way that, you know, normally 296 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,200 isn't spoke of. So it's it's AI don't think 297 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,320 they're I don't think they can read your mind. 298 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,000 I really don't. What I think happens is is they 299 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,200 can almost peer into what's in your mind because of the what 300 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,680 you're about to say to the forefront. 301 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,880 So basically whatever area of the brain calculates the words 302 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,680 that are about to come out of your mouth and you're about to 303 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,240 say them, they may have access to. 304 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,599 It's a good answer. It's a good answer. 305 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,680 You know the other funny thing about watching those clips too? 306 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,960 I just realized is like when we recorded that stuff, we were 307 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,960 never planning on using any video. 308 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,080 So I'm looking at myself in like AT shirt and hoodie and my glass 309 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,560 like I don't even think. I think I just rolled out of 310 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,360 bed, looked like total shit and it's like keeps. 311 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,160 It real man. Keeps it real. 312 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,120 It's just like I don't want to. Roll baby. 313 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,240 It's like I'm I'm 50 years old bro I don't want to keep it 314 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,920 real. It's like I want to look 20 315 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,400 years younger. Tired of keeping it real. 316 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,800 How do I fake it for a while? Fake it till I make it. 317 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,560 That's it. Fake it till you make it, you 318 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,240 know. I'm telling you again, everybody 319 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,640 who's watching, thank you. If you're just joining us late, 320 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,240 this is splintered spirits live. 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T-shirt cats. 344 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,920 And if you've got any suggestions, things you want to 345 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,880 see our our name on, by all means, please, we'll slap it on 346 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,760 there. Yeah, we'll slap it right on. 347 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,960 There, we'll slap it right on. I'll put that name on anything. 348 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,520 If I could sell it, we'll put our name on it. 349 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,840 We're not precious. No. 350 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,240 Who cares, man? Check this out, it's suck and go 351 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,960 fuck. You know, here's another, you 352 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,000 know, so speak. Oh, I got another. 353 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,160 We have one more. Another good thing from a fan 354 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,640 and this seems like a regular. She asked a really interesting 355 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,200 question because I know you're doing a lot of fixed rig stuff. 356 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,440 Again, you've got cameras rolling all night at the 357 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,120 factory. And let me I'm going to jump to 358 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:04,760 this question and I think it's a really it's a good one for you 359 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,520 to answer. So look, Carrie Sue writes. 360 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,360 You know, I understand what she's what she's talking, she 361 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:14,680 being Kathy is saying during that during episode 8. 362 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,160 But why do we still hear the same spirit saying the same 363 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,080 things when John leaves the live running for us and he's and he's 364 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,400 leaves and is not there anymore. Like Edward was still calling 365 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,440 names and tell us not to give him gifts to gift him at the 366 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,280 same time in the tower, they'll continue to move stuff or talk 367 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,800 to go up and down the stairs, etcetera. 368 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Doesn't have to go go against what the medium said now. 369 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,240 So anyway, it's a good question. It's a good question, but there 370 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:50,360 might be some fallacy in there. OK, And this happens a lot too. 371 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:55,480 Unfortunately, I, I ask my regulars all the time that are 372 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,480 always watching the YT stream. So we're going to we're going to 373 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,280 talk about the YT stream, the absentee documentation that 374 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,440 happens in the fireplace room. OK. 375 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,080 I asked people and I've been doing it for years. 376 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:12,280 Hey guys, does Edward say the same things or the spirits in 377 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,520 general say the same things when I'm there and when I am not 378 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,960 there? And I've been told that the 379 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,040 dialogue changes. I've been told that the dialogue 380 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,000 changes where instead of him yelling at at everybody not to 381 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,760 drop gifts, instead he'll say things like don't support John, 382 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,080 you know, he'll still call me an A hole, you know, and things 383 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,320 like that. But I hear that the dialogue 384 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,120 changes where it's, you know, he's aware that I am not there 385 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,680 anymore and he now has a one-on-one audience with the 386 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,840 people that are watching. You know, sure, there are a lot 387 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,160 of things that he says that don't change and, you know, 388 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,960 whatever, that's just the way it is. 389 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,920 No. You're right, but I guess. 390 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200 I I don't understand what what I guess I missed something. 391 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,000 What did what did cat. Oh, maybe because we were saying 392 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,200 how you're the catalyst for the spirit. 393 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,480 So if you're not there. Yeah, I'm. 394 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,720 Just trying to figure out why she thinks because why would 395 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,000 they say something different if you're not there? 396 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,360 Nah, well, technically, technically they they, they 397 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:19,120 should be. You know, I'm I'm you know, I'm, 398 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,840 I'm another factor getting involved. 399 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,520 You know, it's not like the activity stops when I when I 400 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,120 leave, you know what I'm saying? Like, hold on, let's ask, let's 401 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:31,920 ask the let's ask the the the audience real quick. 402 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,280 Sure. What do you? 403 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,240 Want to ask do? You guys noticed how many of you 404 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,160 there's, there's 30 of you in here right now, right? 405 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Yeah, I'm sure the majority of you have seen the fireplace room 406 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,320 with me in it and with me not in there, you know. 407 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,680 You know how many have have noticed the difference in the 408 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480 dialogue? Is it different? 409 00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:04,350 What are you saying? Someone just asked the funny so 410 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:13,870 stupid it is possible powers, but I'm a married man so I say 411 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:21,030 no, I'm a loyal married man we. Is the dialogue different in the 412 00:23:21,030 --> 00:23:24,590 fireplace room for is for their steady fans who watch John at 413 00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:27,800 Santa Paranormal all the time or they're watching his live 414 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,120 streams when he's not there. The fixed rig camera stuff. 415 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:33,240 Are they hearing spirits? OK, listen, All right, so here's 416 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,400 some of these responses. What's it called? 417 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,600 He turns it more directly to the chat rather than, you know, 418 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,800 direct directly to me. You know, what's it called? 419 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,040 And he talks about me while I'm gone as if, you know, like I'm 420 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,280 not there. Yeah. 421 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:59,640 This is what this is what I've been told, you know, like some 422 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040 things are the same, but I've been told that the dialogue 423 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,280 changes. So that's what I mean by that, 424 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520 you know, and that's a great question, don't get me wrong. 425 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,520 But I just noticed a little, you know, a couple things that just 426 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,920 didn't add up within the question. 427 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,840 And that's what I've always been told that the dialogue is is 428 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,680 different. Yeah, Is it changing? 429 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,880 So this is see now this answer where someone has heard he says, 430 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,400 hey, assholes to us the other day after you left. 431 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,400 That to me is where. But that's to me. 432 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,160 Like this is the thing to me is the personality is the same. 433 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,280 Yeah. That's where to me, it's always, 434 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,120 it's not what he's saying, because look, let you know, 435 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,080 let's talk. Even if the app has only so many 436 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,040 words in the word bank or whatever it's pulling from, the 437 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,520 personality's the same. The words it's choosing are the 438 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,000 same. I'm not quite sure how that 439 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,720 works or if there's a technical way to make that work. 440 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,240 I don't know the answer to that. But if if for some reason with 441 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,080 you it's always working that way, and that's strange to me, 442 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,840 that's strange to me. Yeah, the personalities don't 443 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,280 change. Yeah, especially with Edward. 444 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Yeah, it's nuts. So here, same topics, just 445 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,120 phrased differently, you know, like it's, it's, it's, it's 446 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,720 crazy, you know, it's so that that's what I've always been 447 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,240 told. I've always been told that, yo, 448 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,760 when you're not there, John, this is what he's saying. 449 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,800 It's basically the same stuff, just phrased differently. 450 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,080 You know, he, it's almost like he's now talking to us with you 451 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,000 not there rather, rather than when you are there. 452 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,800 You know, in fact, something really interesting. 453 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:46,200 When I first started doing the Y TS, the absentee documentation 454 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,120 on the Y TS and I pulled it off of TikTok because that's what I 455 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,160 did originally. It used to be on TikTok. 456 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,120 And then we switched over to the Y TS for the absentee 457 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:58,600 documentation. It took Edward like a week to 458 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,600 figure out it was a different application. 459 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,040 He was still telling people not to gift and all that stuff. 460 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,560 And then he must have realized, oh wait a second, this isn't 461 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520 TikTok. Isn't it funny that he care? 462 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,680 He's learning the apps, yeah. Dude, it's crazy. 463 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:18,560 I'll tell you. That's the one thing about 464 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,240 Edward. I will say. 465 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,520 He is smart. He is not stupid. 466 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,680 He is cunning. He is smart. 467 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,720 That's crazy, man. Yeah. 468 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,800 All right. So what do we have coming up? 469 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,280 So guys, we've got a couple things coming up in the next 2 470 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,520 episodes I told you about you know, we're planning some big 471 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,040 expert things the next two episodes. 472 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,680 You know, episode 9 is we got some ghost stories, more just 473 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,080 ghost stories, you and I bullshitting. 474 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,400 But episode 10 after that, John and I go on the offensive. 475 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,080 I don't think you're ever going to hear. 476 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200 I don't think you've ever heard John this way. 477 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Certainly you haven't heard me this way, but we're in the 478 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:07,680 fireplace room again and it's very, it's very hard hitting. 479 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,760 It's like we go after, we really go, we really push, whereas you 480 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,680 normally sit back. We push, we push for answers and 481 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,840 it's pretty funny. Yeah, it's, it's very 482 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,200 aggressive. It's it's funny. 483 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Yeah, it's funny. And you know, for me, I, you 484 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,840 know, here's I only have one more question too. 485 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,360 I want to pose to the audience because I was talking about 486 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:35,600 this. We like this time slot, but it's 487 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:42,360 like I'm curious for people who are watching, you know, let me 488 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:46,080 know what day and what time would be easier to watch this 489 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,720 live. Is this the best time for 490 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,200 everyone? Are you sitting around? 491 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,160 You have to get back to work unfortunately. 492 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,840 When do you wish it was on? Is it interrupt some of your 493 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,280 favorite shows? What is the what do you guys 494 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,600 think? Is this a good time? 495 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,440 Thursdays at 4:00. You know, shout out to the 60 496 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,720 people that are watching right now. 497 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,000 I love it. It was high for a minute. 498 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,360 They tire up for as well. It's still showing 60 for me. 499 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,600 Yeah. And I refreshed. 500 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,720 Yeah, it's good. I think this is the highest sofa 501 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,800 we're growing, that's for sure. Yeah. 502 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,080 So the reason why we're asking that question is we're actually 503 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,440 thinking of switching this tonight. 504 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,800 You know it's a. Sunday night? 505 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,240 Is a Sunday night easier? Is everybody sitting at home 506 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,920 doing nothing anyway? Or is it, you know, a late 507 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800 night? Is it later at night when you're 508 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,960 sitting there herkle dirkling on your phone? 509 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Is it a better time to watch something like this? 510 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Yeah, yeah. We're, we're, we're thinking of 511 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,800 switching it up. We're thinking about it going, 512 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,520 you know, a later time. I see we're seeing like 5 513 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,600 Anything after hours. Works for, works for, works for 514 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,560 me. This one. 515 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,520 A lot of people say it works. Yeah. 516 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Well, we might. We might try, and hopefully we 517 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,720 won't. If we do try another time, we'll 518 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,800 get you then too. Enough. 519 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,520 See 3060 some people are like an hour later probably get off work 520 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,640 at like 4 or 5 four. Or five. 521 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Yeah, you know, yeah. Well, you know what we could do? 522 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,280 We could always, like you said, we could always test it out, try 523 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520 at night time and see how it goes and see if people like. 524 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,200 It. Yeah, See if we get the eyes all 525 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,040 right. It's good to know. 526 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Yeah. Probably a lot of your work and 527 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,280 you're trying to sneak it and not let your boss see you're 528 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,960 watching ghost stories. It's a little smart idea, yeah. 529 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,200 That's what we were talking about. 530 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Yeah, somebody or when I was asking this question though, we 531 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,840 got another question which is really interesting. 532 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,920 John, I know you have an answer for this if I could find it 533 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,880 again, but they were she was asking like she was confused 534 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,720 like can. So here we go, spirits. 535 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Can learn. I think that's the. 536 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,320 Question right? Spirits can learn. 537 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Spirits can learn, they can forget to. 538 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,240 That's the old. I have a theory on that. 539 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,600 Old memory versus new memory. Let's hear it. 540 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,320 So the the the theory goes as follows is that spirits can gain 541 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,680 new memories and without proper stimulus to those memories, lose 542 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,120 them. That's basically. 543 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,440 The and every. Yeah, and every spirit's 544 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,520 different too. So it might take a spirit a week 545 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,720 to forget. It might take a spirit a year to 546 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,680 forget, but sooner or later we'll forget without the proper 547 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,880 stimulus by boxing. So are you saying that if a 548 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,960 spirit did crossword puzzles they would strengthen their 549 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,320 energy waves and possibly hold on to memories longer like an 550 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,240 old? Person If the crossword puzzle 551 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,000 was the thing that sparked the new memory, sparked the the 552 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,440 learning. Interesting. 553 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:59,200 You know, like for example, for example Foxy the cat right in 554 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,080 the tower. If I were to move Voxy to a 555 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,800 different location, all the spirits that learned who Voxy 556 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,560 was after a while will forget that she existed. 557 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,160 Interesting. No. 558 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,040 SO that's basically what I mean by that. 559 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,960 OK. No, all right. 560 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,160 What do you guys think? Yeah, and we and we've seen this 561 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,440 too. It's not like I've like I've 562 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,440 I've, I've told this story a million times. 563 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Well, tell me how you've seen it. 564 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,360 Give me an example of how you've seen it. 565 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,880 So we'll recap. So the first cemetery that I 566 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:51,560 ever really documented fully and poured a lot of hours into was 567 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,520 the abandoned cemetery. This is a cemetery that is 3 568 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,960 cemeteries rolled into one. It's the Kings Rd. cemetery AKA 569 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,240 the Baptist cemetery. The and the strange burial 570 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,720 grounds which I took you to. You've been to the cemetery. 571 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,200 Yeah, OK. OK, so for a couple, for a 572 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,240 while, I was not allowed back at that cemetery because of 573 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,080 something that happened that I was falsely accused of. 574 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:31,960 And when I finally got back to that cemetery, all the spirits 575 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,120 basically forgot who I was. When I remade my connections 576 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,920 with those spirits, the spirit that was known as the grumpy 577 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,800 spirit Elmer became one of the nicest spirits ever. 578 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,000 Still kept his personality. He just liked me the second time 579 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,720 around. And the Spirit. 580 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840 When you grow up, people, dude, you're charming. 581 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,840 Yeah, and the spirit, though. But get this is where it gets 582 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,200 crazy. The spirit that you can thank 583 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:05,120 for the boom of cemeteries and cemetery lives and all the 584 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160 people that came after I started, you know, wandering 585 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,000 cemeteries. The reason why people realize 586 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,120 that there's actual spirits in cemeteries because, as you know, 587 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,160 it was very taboo and it was thought that there were no 588 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,080 spirits at cemeteries. Most experts you speak to will 589 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,680 be like, there's no spirits at cemeteries. 590 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:30,000 OK, we know that's wrong now, but the reason why all that 591 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,120 happened was because of a spirit was not only not only one of the 592 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,000 best spirits I communicated with. 593 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:42,560 If I needed to tell somebody off about, you know, they had, you 594 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,560 know, those being rude, I would literally go to Joseph T June 595 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,440 and have a conversation with Joseph T June about that person. 596 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Like so say someone in the chat was like, oh, this is fake. 597 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960 This is bullshit. I'd be like, I hold on for a 598 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,560 second and walk up to Joseph and be like, yo Joe, you believe 599 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,000 what this a hole is saying? And then Joe would respond, this 600 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,440 is real, blah, blah, blah. Like he would like back me up 601 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,239 fucking wild, like instantly back me up. 602 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,159 That spirit does not like me now. 603 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,600 That spirit forgot who I was. And the second time I went to go 604 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,600 talk to him the the revival, if you will, that cemetery, that 605 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,239 spirit wants nothing to do with me actually will tell me to go 606 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,679 fuck myself if I get if I approach him now that's. 607 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,480 Crazy. Wild. 608 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,639 Do we know anything about this person? 609 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,800 Like how old? Like what was your grave? 610 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,320 What was the like year? You know, offense. 611 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Yeah, 1818, 80s I think, or 1860s. 612 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,960 And I believe he was 33 years old when he died. 613 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,240 Oh my God. I think, I think I could be 614 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,920 wrong on that information, but yeah, wild, right? 615 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,800 That is wild. Wild. 616 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,760 Crazy. That cemetery was awesome, 617 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,440 though. I mean, there was just so much 618 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,960 going on at that place where I was. 619 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,200 Yeah. Where you were. 620 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. 621 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,640 We just went to the Strange Burial Ground. 622 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,080 We just went to that one section and sat there a the best 623 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,040 service. And there are spirits that come 624 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520 through there all the time. Oh, and that was the other big 625 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,400 change when I went back to the second time, you know, not like 626 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,280 just one, like when I went back for the second wave, if you 627 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,920 will, of that cemetery. The spirits in the Strange 628 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,720 Burial Ground opened up to me the first time. 629 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,600 They would rarely come through. So I mean, that shows some sort 630 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,680 of a memory in the sense that they need to know if you could 631 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,440 build a, you could sort of build a trust or build a relationship 632 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,960 with them at the same time. At the same time, you can also 633 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,560 lose that trust and lose that relationship that you've had 634 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,080 experiences with. And you can't. 635 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,960 Yeah. Do you ever go back to Joseph T 636 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,920 June's grave and say, like, do you ever try every now and again 637 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,120 and be like, maybe clean it up? Maybe he needs a cleaning this 638 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,520 summer and then you can get back in its good graces? 639 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600 Maybe I've tried a bunch of times talking to him and he 640 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,320 wants something to do with me. I wonder what that's isn't that 641 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,080 crazy? It's so crazy. 642 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Kim Rowland is Kim Rowland asked the question here and I actually 643 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,680 know the answer to this from and if you listen to the podcast 644 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,440 Kim, you too will know the answer to this episode 4 645 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,120 specifically, what is the difference between a spirit and 646 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:39,480 a poltergeist. So the difference that most 647 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:47,200 people use as a definition of it is that a poltergeist is a, a 648 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,440 manifestation from a person. So it's like people who have 649 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,920 studied this will see it happen in a lot and oddly a lot of 650 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,000 teens when they're heavily emotional and things fly off the 651 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,600 walls and such and, and things of that nature and that the team 652 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,720 is the poltergeist agent. The energy that's knocking 653 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:11,520 things off the wall is the poltergeist. 654 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,320 But really like the, the, the belief system is that you can't 655 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,520 have one without the other. Whether one can stay around 656 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,840 without the other, I don't know the answer to that. 657 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,080 And if that becomes its own thing, but that is like a 658 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,680 poltergeist is not what we would refer to here as the apparitions 659 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,840 that John is speaking with when he's at the cemetery. 660 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,520 Basically in a nutshell, the poltergeist is not sentient 661 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,760 right? It's not sentient, it doesn't 662 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,160 have its own identity. It's coming from the person. 663 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,520 The agent which is Gary is 100% correct on that. 664 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:59,880 Most of the time poltergeists are caused by preteens and teens 665 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,520 hormones. Heavy emotions, heavy stress. 666 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,960 Yep. Yeah, that's what they they 667 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,160 usually look at Poltergeist agents are studied probably more 668 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,360 so than even spirits, by the people who study spirits because 669 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,920 it's usually, I think they the. Only thing, the only thing that 670 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,200 truly does bother me about the whole poltergeist thing, right? 671 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,960 Since we're on the topic, I might as well say it. 672 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,280 What, what really does bother me about the poltergeist agent and 673 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,600 the poltergeist is you never hear about poltergeists from 674 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,480 PTSD victims. You never do. 675 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,640 Like it's always like a team that's going through something 676 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,320 or something like that, Like you, you would think and, and 677 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,000 this is where, you know, you really got to critically. 678 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,960 I wonder is anybody studying them? 679 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,960 Yeah, I wonder I that'd be awesome. 680 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,440 Am I there? Is something out? 681 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,320 There it's, you know, I don't know if they're, it's not like 682 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,240 you never, you never hear of them because maybe no one's 683 00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,640 studying it because who's around? 684 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,120 Maybe a PTSD victim doesn't want to tell anybody that things are 685 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,560 flying around their house. Maybe not where I know it's a 686 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520 possibility. Or as a parent might be 687 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,240 complaining about their kids when things are flying off the 688 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,040 roof, you know, flying off the shelves. 689 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,680 Yeah, yeah, You know what I mean. 690 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,080 But I wonder, like I wonder that's, that's yeah, it's a 691 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,720 possibility. You never hear about it. 692 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:22,200 So I wonder. Anyway, I hope, I hope that 693 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,720 answers your question. But honestly, listen to episode, 694 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,080 listen to episode 4 because there's there are and it's 695 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,760 useful. It's useful to define these 696 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,200 things, even though they are amorphous, just so that we know 697 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,400 we're talking about. And it's even different when 698 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,200 we're talking about what a haunting is because the haunting 699 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,760 is referred to. So so the the difference as like 700 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,560 an imprint, a recording, so. You know what's, you know what's 701 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,440 really interesting? What episode was it, Gary? 702 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,760 The one where it was the the the Lloyd. 703 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,720 At 4:00, that's episode 4. Episode 4 with the Doctor and 704 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,480 the whole let's just refresh everybody's memory about that. 705 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,680 It was basically he was doing an investigation in a house where 706 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,440 at 3:00 AM they would eat like the three. 707 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,520 People having sex. Yeah, was woken up with people 708 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,720 having sex. He did his homework. 709 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,280 He found out that it was a ritual for the previous couple 710 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,760 to, at 3:00 AM, wake up and start banging their brains out. 711 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,040 Yeah, and he found and the couple were still alive. 712 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,680 And they were. Like they were dead. 713 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,960 They left such a they had, as I joked in that episode, they left 714 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,080 the spectral sex tape in that in that poor new owner's house, 715 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,000 which is which is crazy, but he investigated it. 716 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,920 He went and it and it was like that is that's a haunting, 717 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,400 right? That was what the difference is, 718 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:45,760 what a haunting is versus this, an apparition versus a 719 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,120 poltergeist. Yep, if. 720 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,320 You're going to believe in any of this shit, guys. 721 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,040 It's like, that's what these definitions mean, right? 722 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,160 Like so it helps us as we're trying to line things up. 723 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,600 So now. Line them that way. 724 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,360 You know, and a lot of you again, again, like, like Gary 725 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,800 said, these are definitions. You guys know me, if I was the 726 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,440 person on that case, for example, I'd taken that data. 727 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480 You taking that in consideration, but then you also 728 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,640 have to take in the other possibilities as well. 729 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,360 There's possibilities with that case alone that the sexual 730 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,560 energy was being well, there's actually a lot of things that 731 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,680 could have been happening there. You know, the sexual energy 732 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:33,480 could have fed something and that what sounds like fucking at 733 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,560 at 3A at 3:00 AM is actually just the spirit acting out that 734 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,800 energy. You know, that it that it got it 735 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,920 could it could also be that the couple themselves affected those 736 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,200 spirits like that, You know what I'm saying? 737 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,320 Like, yeah, it fed off it, but now it imprinted on those, you 738 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,480 know, those, those those people, you know, almost think, almost 739 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,080 think of it like, remember going back to Hale's story? 740 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,840 I'm sorry to jump around. Go back to Hale's story from 741 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,080 last week and I asked Hale a very simple question. 742 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,480 I said, Hale, were the the three of you were in in opposition of 743 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,240 each other? But was it more of like a 744 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:19,080 ganging up like the other two people we're against you rather 745 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,080 than against all three, You know, a A3A3 way, if you will, a 746 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,160 three-way battle Royale. And come to find out, no, it was 747 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,040 the other two that were, you know, in opposition of her. 748 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,440 And then the spirit reacted in kind. 749 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,840 You get what I'm saying? So it's amazing how much what, 750 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,160 what the take away from this is the take away from this is, you 751 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,040 know, Lloyd could be 100% correct. 752 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,520 Yeah, but. The The thing is, look, you're 753 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,080 studying when you're studying something and you get to an 754 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,120 answer, and I think this is most scientists right, where they get 755 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,400 to the answer that and it matches when the square, when 756 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,360 the square fits into the square peg fits into the square hole. 757 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,080 It's like, OK, we've got it right. 758 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,800 You know it's. Like that? 759 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,200 Well, well, it it's it's it's. Kind of like. 760 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:17,160 That it's basically just just to add to that though, it's OK the, 761 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:21,040 the square, the square shape fits into the square hole done. 762 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,800 But that square shape has to fit into that square hole with 763 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,760 different tests. So like, for example, you know, 764 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,240 technically, and there's no way to do this. 765 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:36,920 You have to get that couple out, put a new couple in, see if they 766 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,440 experience the same thing, then the next couple, then the next. 767 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,760 You can't do that in the paranormal. 768 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,920 No, no for sure. I think it just, I think I think 769 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,680 most people tend to or most doctors right the E the simplest 770 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,440 solution is usually the right one. 771 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:53,600 And, and I'm sorry to cut you off just real quick going back 772 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,400 to the doctor Lloyd, he's got a couple books out, right. 773 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,960 Oh yeah, yeah, Lloyd's books are great guys. 774 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,480 Lloyd Auerbach is. Is Lloyd Auerbach is very well 775 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,680 known? I I mean, yeah. 776 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,880 He's got a couple of books out his. 777 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,760 Books are really fun. I you know, I got my crash 778 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,080 course. He gave me the crash course in 779 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,040 paranormal from this one, Ghost Hunting, how to investigate the 780 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,000 paranormal. And he's even got a book, 781 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,000 Hauntings and Poltergeists really dives into what those 782 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,320 definitions are. But yeah, look, these are big. 783 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,960 These are just sort of. I'm just trying to promote his 784 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,760 books. I know. 785 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,080 He's great. To read, definitely give it a 786 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,800 read. Go on Amazon professor, he goes 787 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,640 by professor paranormal. He does Q and as on YouTube a 788 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,400 lot He's been around man. The guy's got stories, but look 789 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,480 and he he does the work He he puts in the work right? 790 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,480 He sweat, he he went. Knocked on doors, got some 791 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,000 answers, found I can. Admire someone that puts in the 792 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,280 work, yeah. So it's great. 793 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,360 But anyway, that's a fun. That was a very long way to 794 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,360 answer what's the difference between a poltergeist and A and 795 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,080 a haunting and all that stuff. But that's a fun. 796 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,080 But this is kind of what we're trying to do here on the 797 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,800 podcast, right? And we're trying to get to all 798 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,160 these dancers and have fun doing it. 799 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,800 We can make it a little longer real quick if you want, because 800 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,520 I got a story. I want we always. 801 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,680 We do. We love ghost stories. 802 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,360 Let's go. I've got a story, I've got a 803 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,320 story. So when it comes to 804 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:18,960 poltergeists, I came across the poltergeist once and this is 805 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,280 this is some serious implications because I came 806 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,080 across what I called a detached poltergeist. 807 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,680 I came across a poltergeist that no longer has a poltergeist 808 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,280 agent and it is one of the scariest fucking things I have 809 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,720 ever ever came across. Yeah, How do you know it was a 810 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,720 poltergeist? Because it wasn't sentient. 811 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:44,960 So this thing, this thing, not only did it latch on to one of 812 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,960 my friends at the time too, but this, this thing, there was no 813 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,200 reasoning with it. Like when I was communicating 814 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,840 with it, there was literally no reasoning with it. 815 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,920 No, no, like, you know, like when you talk to Edward, there's 816 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,880 a personality there. Yes. 817 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,360 You could tell, you know, you're you can tell you're speaking to 818 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,600 somebody. Yeah. 819 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,920 This thing was almost a mindless. 820 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:15,200 It was just like all about rage and hatred and and it was just 821 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,400 it communicating with it was completely different. 822 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:22,440 And it took me a second to go, oh shit, where am I at? 823 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,560 I'm at Letchworth. OK, There was probably tons of 824 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,200 poltergeist activity at Letchworth with all this shit. 825 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,000 Those poor patients went through one of the chances that one of 826 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,680 it manifested so bad that there was an actual poltergeist there 827 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,360 knocking things off and playing around with things. 828 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,320 And oh shit, is this now that the agent is completely gone and 829 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,000 removed? For decades this thing remained, 830 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,520 you know, leftover in this place. 831 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,360 And the only data that I have on it is the fact of how the 832 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:03,080 communication went, that it was just so like, I can't even 833 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,760 describe it. I wasn't, I wasn't speaking to 834 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,880 what used to be a human, is what I'm saying. 835 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,760 Even like the worst spirits that go through the worst 836 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560 transformations, you know, you could still like, you know, I'll 837 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,920 give you another example. The smoke. 838 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,240 You ever hear me talk about the smoke? 839 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:20,720 Yes, I've heard a buck out right. 840 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,560 No, not a buck out at the pre war burial ground. 841 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,760 Oh, OK, OK, it was a it was a child, maybe even a baby. 842 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,400 That was just this thing was ruthless. 843 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,720 It was terrorizing people that I had nothing to do with. 844 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,480 You know, it was, it was, it was just bad. 845 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,160 Even I was able to communicate with that and reason with that. 846 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,240 Even when everything it went through, I was able to reason 847 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,280 with it. I did with this thing at 848 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,000 Letchworth. I couldn't, I couldn't even talk 849 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,920 to it. It was just it, it you could 850 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,160 tell that it wasn't a, a, you know, a human spirit. 851 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,800 But also, but also this, you're at an insane, a former insane 852 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,640 asylum. Could it have been a mad the 853 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,800 memory of a mad person? Could have been, could have 854 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,960 been. It's a possibility. 855 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160 I don't have enough data on it. I called it. 856 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,440 I called it a detached poltergeist because that's just 857 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,600 the way it. Felt it. 858 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,280 It it felt, but you're 100% correct, that could have been 859 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,280 that could have been a crazy person. 860 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,280 Right. I mean, if if we're talking 861 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,840 about memories left behind and you're in an insane, you know, 862 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,440 and and you know, and. No, you're listen, you're 100% 863 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,160 correct because I have so little data on it other than the two 864 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,800 experiences I had with it and. Honestly, check me out, it's 865 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,400 check me out being a ghost, paranormal, check me out being a 866 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,320 paranormal investigator. There you go, There you go 867 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,680 asking the right questions. Lloyd you did good, Lloyd, you 868 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,840 did good. Lloyd Hale. 869 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520 Hale like to mention, brought up a great experiment that Lloyd 870 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,760 told me about too, called the Phillip Experiment, which if you 871 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,960 go to, you know, you can probably find video of it on 872 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,440 YouTube, which is a great poltergeist sort of example, 873 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,960 like sort of the old time when the guys going out and filming 874 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,080 it and stuff like that. I would share it, but I don't 875 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,280 have the rights to it. But it's like if I'll try to get 876 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,680 them and share it with everybody one day. 877 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,680 But it's you can right now. You can go look at it on your 878 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,440 for yourself. But it is that is a good 879 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,120 experiment. That's a great one, A great 880 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,520 example of what a poltergeist is or what they think it was at the 881 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,040 time. You know, it's pretty good, 882 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,160 guys. What else? 883 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,640 What else? How can we leave the fine people 884 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,320 here? We're getting close to our hour 885 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,200 again. Sorry we started late today. 886 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:38,280 I mean, I know you said you had a lot to talk about. 887 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,600 I I'm down to go longer if you want. 888 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,240 I understand if you got something going on. 889 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,720 No, I got stuff to do. I got no, I got to jump. 890 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,120 Just keep prepping, dude. We got to keep cutting, keep 891 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,000 betting, keep calling, keeping this thing going. 892 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,440 Guys, I I love the numbers today. 893 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:55,960 We need to get this podcast up. We need to get the tell your 894 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,920 friends if you like it, you think it's fun. 895 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,080 We're looking to hit 10,000 followers across every platform. 896 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,480 We can do that. We'll start getting some real 897 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,240 gas on this thing and have some real fun with it. 898 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,760 Locations, travel. Do we have do we have any any 899 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,280 stories to end with? Do we have any submissions? 900 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,200 Not this week, not this week, not not not enough good evidence 901 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,920 for this for for this week. OK, but we're getting that's 902 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,600 another thing. But thank you for bringing that 903 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,560 up. Go to the website 904 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,800 splinteredspirits.com. Please submit your ghost 905 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,600 stories. And if you have evidence, some 906 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200 of you've been doing it. But you know, I'm really looking 907 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,880 for stuff that's fun, that's got some meat on the bone, things we 908 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,520 can look at, analyze and talk about, right. 909 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:48,080 So, you know, when you're on the site, go to, you know, you'll 910 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,440 see a tab ghost stories. That's where you could submit 911 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,600 the podcast is everywhere. Listen to it there follow 912 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,880 everywhere. It's everywhere. 913 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,320 Our socials, we're everywhere. I think we're like, you know, 914 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,520 we're here on YouTube's the best experience for it. 915 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,960 Why TS? But we're, we're streaming on 916 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,440 Twitch on Insta everywhere, so there's no excuse. 917 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,080 We want to get those numbers up to get the most bang for the 918 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,360 buck here and, and have some, and have some fun doing it. 919 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,720 As John mentioned, one of the first things you mentioned, the 920 00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:22,520 merch is up. Santa, Paranormal and Splintered 921 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,560 Spirits merch all available at splinteredspirits.com. 922 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,640 Splinteredspirits.com. Everything you can get 923 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,880 everything there you can watch this there it's a good hub and 924 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,200 then go to where you feel comfortable. 925 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,440 What's easier. I know it's a pain in the ass 926 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,240 switching around. You don't want to have to jump 927 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:37,480 from here to there to everywhere. 928 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,520 We don't want you to have to, but it's get to help us get 929 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,240 those numbers up. Guys. 930 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:46,920 You want to get a 10 grand, 10K10 grand across the board and 931 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,160 this thing will be this thing will be cooking with gas for 932 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,720 sure. You know, we're getting up 933 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:53,800 there. By the way, I didn't tell you I 934 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,800 meant to tell you and I have my last thing to say first thing 935 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,720 out. We hit we're up to 2500 streams, 936 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,560 which you know, we've been out for two months. 937 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:07,600 So we had 2500 listens, which is pretty wild for for a couple of 938 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:14,080 non celebrity schmo's like us to for a, a podcast out of I think 939 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,200 there's, I don't know, something like 380,000 active podcasts in 940 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,840 the universe right now. Yeah. 941 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,240 So we're doing all right. We could do better. 942 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,080 We're trying to do better. We want we want to give you guys 943 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,560 what you want. And that's really it, man. 944 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,920 I got nothing else. I think we're good for today. 945 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,920 Yeah. All right, hold on. 946 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,440 Who is this? Real quick, We'll end it with a 947 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,960 question. I think we got a good one in the 948 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,120 in the chat here. I just don't know if it's 949 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,120 referred to me or you. Regardless, it'll be 950 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:49,160 interesting. Has all of your research you've 951 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,600 been doing changed your opinion on spirits? 952 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,800 So is that directed towards me or do you want to go? 953 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,800 And then I'll go. I mean, I'm more interested to 954 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,080 hear your. Yeah, you know, it's a. 955 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,160 Input on it to be honest. No, no, for sure. 956 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,240 Has all the research we've been doing changed your opinion on 957 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:16,320 spirits? Has it? 958 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,400 It's changed my opinion. Yeah. 959 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,680 I would have to say yes. I mean, it's a yes or no 960 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,640 question. I'll give it a yes. 961 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,960 What? I have no idea what they are. 962 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:31,080 And I've said this before and, and what I really think it for 963 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,400 me that I still like, I'm fascinated by is not the, the, 964 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,320 that the app speaks back or the words that it says or even that 965 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,960 it repeats words or says their answers questions. 966 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,120 It's personality that that makes me wonder what's going on. 967 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,720 So it's like when I hear this the same personality of a of a 968 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:58,680 spirit that John is talking to in a in a specific location that 969 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,800 I find interesting. Could the app be, you know, is 970 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:09,080 the app Geo sort of marking these particular words in this 971 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,720 particular thing? I can't let's say it even it is. 972 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,320 Let's say it is, but. One all little secret. 973 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,800 It's regular. It's. 974 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,360 One all little secret, when I run these apps, the phone that I 975 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,080 use. You reset it? 976 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,480 Yeah, OK. So see. 977 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,840 And then he resets it and I've been it's like so in. 978 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,760 Fact. Sometimes it's on. 979 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,360 It's on airplane mode. All right. 980 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,120 I mean, so that's what that's what sort of wows me about that. 981 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,040 That's super interesting to know. 982 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,760 I mean, you know, so it's the personalities of them that makes 983 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,560 me wonder what's going on and of all the theories out there. 984 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,920 I, you know, I'm not a religious person. 985 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,520 I grew up that way and just John, same as John. 986 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,360 We both grew up the same way and we're both sort of atheists and 987 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,840 it's sort. Of a. 100% atheist about it and 988 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,200 it's so I look at it like there is something to this idea. 989 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,240 Where does energy go and where what is that? 990 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,600 You can call it soul, you can call it whatever you want, but 991 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,760 it's energy. And are there memories attached 992 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,600 to it? Why the hell not? 993 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,560 No one really knows what the how the mind works. 994 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:26,240 That's the one thing in science we still don't understand how 995 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,520 this works. It's so bad that people don't 996 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:35,120 even know how to use it. That's yeah, believe me, dude, I 997 00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:38,040 I know that right away. I think one of one of our 998 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,720 favorite questions on the podcast is and listen, we love 999 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:41,680 you guys. We thank you guys. 1000 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,040 But it's so, so like, where do I hear the podcast? 1001 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,320 And I'm gonna leave you just say this with all due respect, if 1002 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:54,600 you don't know where to find a fucking podcast in 2025, I don't 1003 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,800 know what to tell you guys. It's like you're living in a 1004 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,720 cave. They're everywhere. 1005 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,720 It's the new world order. Figure it, figure it out. 1006 00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:03,720 I want your attention. I want you to listen. 1007 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,480 I want your, I want your eyeballs. 1008 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,680 But it's almost like, I think if you don't know where to find a a 1009 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,480 podcast, then I would, I would prefer you as a human being in 1010 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,120 society to crack a book and like read, learn. 1011 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,200 So, you know, read, like get, educate, get educated. 1012 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,800 Then worry about where we are. Because if you don't know where 1013 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,200 a podcast is at this point in the game, I don't know if I can 1014 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,520 help you with a lot of the answers. 1015 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,320 But when we say the podcast is everywhere, it's it's 1016 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,680 everywhere, you know, everywhere. 1017 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,600 It's. Everywhere. 1018 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,000 And so I mean, I guess I'll answer that question too. 1019 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,880 Mind dramatically changed, you know, and I'm talking about when 1020 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:50,000 I first started doing this, you know, to now my it's, it's, it's 1021 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,800 changed like you wouldn't believe. 1022 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,600 I've realized so many things about spirits. 1023 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,320 Spirits are bored. You know, a lot of spirits don't 1024 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,080 know what the hell is going on. They're as ignorant as me and 1025 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,080 you. And this is what I always tell 1026 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,840 people, which is wild, yo. Spirits are not omniscient. 1027 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,400 They don't know the secrets of the universe. 1028 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,520 Think of yourself. Think of yourself dying. 1029 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:20,600 That's what a spirit knows. It's, it's, it's really wild. 1030 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,080 And when I first. Started doing this back in 2021. 1031 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,880 When I first started doing this, I didn't understand these 1032 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,000 concepts. I thought that, you know, when 1033 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,320 you died, you at least were able to find out some information. 1034 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,240 You know, I didn't realize how boring, you know, the afterlife 1035 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,040 could be if you're stuck in, in, in the same, you know, 1036 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,080 rotations, if you will. You know how I know they don't 1037 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,440 know? Because they screwed up my NCAA 1038 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,280 brackets, that's for damn sure. I mean, they couldn't pick the 1039 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,680 basketball teams. They couldn't predict that. 1040 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,760 My friend, my favorite selection bracket guys was a bust. 1041 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,280 They dropped out. They had me having St. 1042 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,520 John's winning the whole thing, which is a disaster. 1043 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,440 Florida wound up winning, even though some of them said 1044 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,360 Florida, which was a great win, didn't help me in the long run. 1045 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,880 So no, they're not Privy to any new information, certainly on 1046 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,600 the NCAA college basketball front that I can tell you first 1047 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,280 hand experience, first hand experience. 1048 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,280 So all right, let's let's end it on that. 1049 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,200 My man. That was a good that was a good 1050 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,760 live. Always leave them wanting more, 1051 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,280 you know, we appreciate them. Yeah, listen guys, just a quick 1052 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,280 recap before we go. We are 8 episodes in. 1053 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,120 We are 8 episodes in every other Tuesday Splintered spirits. 1054 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,720 Check it out. Live every week. 1055 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,480 Merch Santa Paranormal Splintered spirits merch on 1056 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,880 santaparanormal.com and every week we do the live podcast 1057 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,160 right here. We want your ghost stories, we 1058 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,800 want your questions, we want your friends. 1059 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,560 We want them all. Check it out. 1060 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,960 Thank you for watching. Thank you all for watching. 1061 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,080 Until next time. Wait, have a good one everyone.