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Hello, Robin. 
Hello, Brian. 

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So great, Katie came out with a 
banger. 

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Player player, player, yo-yo yo 
right back. 

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Tomorrow Unreal. 
Welcome everybody. 

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What's? 
Going on. 

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Welcome to the live Splintered 
Spirits podcast where we talk 

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about all things spirit 
communication with our boy John 

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Santa. 
Let me get this thing. 

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I like this thing in the back. 
What's going on, everybody? 

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We got a fun episode, a blast in
the past episode tonight for all

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of you. 
A story that I've told, a story 

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that I've told for a long time 
on my stream. 

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Every now and then I bust the 
story out. 

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Now, unfortunately, my memory is
going back almost 20 years, so 

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my memory is a little skewed on 
it. 

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And plus, I actually wasn't even
there for a big portion of what 

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happened. 
Well, I'm excited to hear it 

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because we haven't had a good 
ghost story in a while and it's 

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like, what the hell are we doing
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Not talking about. 
Ghost Beyond This goes beyond 

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ghost story. 
All right, this. 

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Is the reason one of the reasons
why people say Ouija boards are 

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dangerous, spirit boards are 
dangerous? 

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This involves way more than just
spirits. 

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This involves a possible 
interdimensional entity. 

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It's it's, it's wild. 
Play, play, play. 

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Let you know before we get into 
it because we were just we were 

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just talking to everybody about,
you know, as I'm diving into 

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this community of parrot the 
world of paranormal. 

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So you're not on Reddit? 
No. 

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So you got out of it. 
So it's like, I just, guys, I 

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just got into Reddit and I put, 
I put a splinter spirits on 

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Reddit and I try to join various
subreddits about the paranormal.

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They're real mean to me, Yo, 
They're mean. 

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They're so mean. 
It's like they're just, they're 

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incredibly mean out there. 
And it's like they're all like 

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armchair experts and they're, 
you know, the, the word. 

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Here's the thing. 
It's like, I don't care about 

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the meanness. 
You know what I mean? 

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But you know what, it's weird. 
It's like they're so adamant 

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about this is what it is and I 
must be lying. 

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And I'm clearly raw. 
Like I posted, I've only posted 

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a couple things, not everything.
One of them was the short video 

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that we did from the mirror. 
You know the lady in the mirror 

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right where you can see it. 
And one guy was like, and one 

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guy said something or I don't 
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one person said something like 
that. 

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I actually thought it was funny.
They go break out some Windex 

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and bust that ghost, right? 
They're just saying it's there, 

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which I thought was I thought 
was great, and I wrote ha, you 

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know, that maybe that's pretty. 
I go that's pretty funny. 

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Maybe it? 
Is. 

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Right. 
And then after I wrote, maybe 

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they wrote then then it got 
dark. 

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Then it was like, no, it's not. 
Maybe it's definitely clearly a 

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dirt smudge. 
And I go, well then that's some 

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pretty great dirt art. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like that's some really good 
smudge art. 

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And by the way, it's also like. 
Smudge must be moving you. 

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Know yeah dude and by the way, 
like why is it have to be dirt? 

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Why can't it be the angles, the 
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like there's all sorts of things
or maybe it's a fucking ghost, 

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but I'm just saying. 
Or maybe it's a deviation in the

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glass. 
I mean, it could be. 

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Anything. 
It could be anything, but they 

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were so adamant about. 
Adamant on dirt. 

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On dirt. 
And then they get so mad at me 

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and then I'm a liar and I'm 
trying to, I'm click bait and 

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I'm being exploitive. 
Exploitive and it's just like, 

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wow, man, what is going on? 
And then I just posted the Brian

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video on another group, you 
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that we made of the Brian 
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And like, one thing, I love the 
engagement, you know, someone 

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trying to promote a podcast and 
share and get this stuff out, 

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man. 
You know, we've got like, let me

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see what it's like every time I 
click it. 

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We're up to 3500 views in 30 
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Yeah, yeah, it's. 
Great. 

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But people that comment and the 
and the logic behind the 

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comment, John, it's like, well, 
and I and I clearly say in the 

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caption, like, listen, the text 
message doesn't match the voice.

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I don't know why this is what we
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It came in on a live this is 
what we got. 

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I'm showing you and they're 
like, you're a liar. 

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The text message doesn't match 
the voice. 

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I go, yeah, I know I said that. 
And like I said that to you, 

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like I I clearly pointed that 
out out of the gate. 

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But this is everything we got. 
You could check the time stamps 

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it all. 
I mean, what do you want me to 

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tell you? 
And I even say it could be a 

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glitch in the cloud of the phone
service. 

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I said that's not in question. 
The question is why then why 

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him? 
Why now? 

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Right. 
Like it's that's the weird part,

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not that it would it could be. 
And they just get, they just get

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so mean to me, Jack. 
Yeah, well, you know, just going

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into it, it, it's, it's amazing 
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just on live how many times I 
will say something and like 

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people just don't listen. 
And that's me vocalizing it. 

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Imagine typing it out and people
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It's it's crazy. 
It really is when you think 

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about it. 
These guys are like war man, and

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they're just so angry about it. 
It's like, what are you are we 

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talking about? 
Fucking ghosts? 

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Like what are you talking about?
What are you SO? 

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Upset they're acting like we're 
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or something. 
It's insane. 

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You know, like something 
personal to them. 

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It's it's it is wild. 
But anyway, we're on Reddit. 

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It's a wild place. 
Anyway, we're on Reddit guys. 

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If you want to join me and maybe
help me out, show me some 

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support because they're being 
mean. 

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They're being so mean to me on 
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It's crazy. 
It's crazy. 

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That's. 
So funny. 

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All right, so let's get back 
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We got a great story. 
We got a friends here. 

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We want you chee it up dude. 
I don't know, I'm hearing this 

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for the first time so I want. 
To know Oh, right, I'm sure I'm 

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going to bring on, I'm going to 
bring on a man, OK, to come sit 

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right next to me. 
Well, First off, some of you 

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might recognize King saves here,
OK. 

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Some of you might recognize him.
He openly allowed us to document

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his Masonic Lodge. 
I say that correctly. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
His Masonic Lodge about two 

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years ago, which was a great 
experience, you know, gave us a 

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window, a very personal window 
into the the Masons and their 

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their beliefs, their practices, 
which is very cool because 

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they're a very selective and 
private organization. 

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So that was an honor. 
And he's also the man whose 

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house that insane story with the
spirit board that I've told on 

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live a couple of times happened 
in and I'm going to bring him 

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here now. 
You might have seen him in my 

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chat on on, on, on TikTok and 
YouTube. 

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King saves coming down. 
Come on in, yo. 

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Hey, how are you? 
I'm doing great. 

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How are you? 
Good. 

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Good to meet you. 
They. 

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So I am going to start it off 
because I'm going to just lay 

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down some a back story real 
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It was a chaotic time in our 
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We were what, in our early 20s? 
We were 20. 

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We were 20. 
So how did you, how did you guys

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meet? 
So he's actually cousins with 

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another good friend of mine. 
OK. 

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And that's actually isn't that 
how we met? 

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Yeah, in the basement of my. 
And then of your, of your 

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cousin's house. 
So that's how we met. 

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And, you know, we became, you 
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stayed. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And, you know, and we, you know,
we stayed friends over the 

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years. 
So, but we were at different 

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speed than our other friends. 
Our other friends were more like

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they they stay at home hang out 
in the basement types we were 

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the more we're going to go out 
and party and have you know, 

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have fun and get wild. 
So we would go out a lot and it 

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was a chaotic period in my life,
especially I for some odd 

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reason. 
Guys don't ask me why I did 

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this. 
I actually had my current 

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girlfriend at the time the story
takes place and my ex-girlfriend

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hanging out. 
OK, and probably the other one 

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too in between. 
I think they were all all all. 

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Anyway, it was just a chaotic 
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And there are two players in 
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bringing this up. 
And we threw a house party. 

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Basically. 
Your parents went on a cruise? 

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No, my parents would go away 
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OK. 
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five day long party. 
So that's what this was. 

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Now, I was working a full time 
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to work, you know, come home, 
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all night, repeat. 
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OK, so we were in what, Day 2? 
No. 

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This was day three because it 
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All the people from the local, 
like from the area weren't 

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really around. 
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girlfriend and your 
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we were dabbling in like trying 
to figure out stuff about me and

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whatever at the time. 
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Yeah, it's very interesting to 
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myself at that time. 
And so she, the, the 

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ex-girlfriend, she said, Oh 
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We'll set up, you know, spirit 
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figure that out. 
So I was like, OK, so that day 

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we didn't really have a party. 
It was kind of like a bunch of 

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the people that were in that 
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So there's a. 
Downturn. 

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Still at work over over at that 
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There's a down and there's a 
downturn in the party. 

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Yes, there's a downturn in the 
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So we decided to get a Ouija 
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Yes, basically, OK, basically. 
And yeah, so continue because I 

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wasn't here for any everything 
you're about to hear, I was not 

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here for. 
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when I came into the into. 
The He puts a salt line around 

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the dining room, going all a big
circle around the dining room. 

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What's the spirit board on the 
middle of the of the of the 

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dining room table? 
And then she starts doing this. 

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I don't know what she was doing,
but she was speaking almost in 

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tongues. 
Who's the now? 

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Who's this girl? 
This is your. 

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Ex. 
One of my the. 

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Ex This was the ex, not the 
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OK, so and she was just going 
off on a rant in some something 

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that didn't even comprehend the 
language. 

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I don't know what was going on. 
And then all of a sudden the 

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lights go out throughout most of
the house and we start feeling 

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like queasy all over the place. 
Everybody's starting to get 

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sick. 
And we're not, you know, 

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drinking, doing any, anything at
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No drugs I want to take. 
I want to take, I want to take 

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one step back. 
Mike, did you ever did you 

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believe in ghosts and spirits 
before? 

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This my family is very in tune 
with spiritual activity. 

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Why do you say that your family 
is? 

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Why are they? 
What are they like mediums? 

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Are they which, what's? 
What does that mean? 

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They, they, they, they. 
We just have a strong connection

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to the energy around us. 
I'll leave that. 

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All right, so you, you're a 
believer. 

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So you, you're, you're in this. 
I'm a believer. 

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You've always been a believer. 
At the time I don't want to be 

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and I feel that energy. 
OK. 

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All right. 
I'm like, I can live without it,

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but I know it's there. 
OK, OK, so. 

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It obviously starts going in the
wrong direction and I at this 

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point, I don't know if she's 
messing with us like trying to 

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doing this intentionally or 
what, because I just wanted to 

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find out some stuff. 
And then she's whatever she 

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conjured knocked out the lights 
and in the kitchen the, the, the

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dishwashing machine starts just 
it turns on, it starts foaming 

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out. 
We're like, what's going on in 

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there? 
And you know the? 

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What was she asking? 
What did she ask before she this

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happened? 
I don't know what she was 

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saying. 
She was speaking in tongues. 

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OK. 
You know and like. 

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She was wait, so how many hands?
There was like a bunch of hands 

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on the planchet. 
There are. 

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No hands on the table, it's 
moving on its own. 

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OK. 
This thing is moving. 

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I've never seen that. 
I I've you know. 

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No, but I mean, before she 
started freaking out, was it 

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like, were you just there? 
Like, is there any spirit with 

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us? 
And like, was it the basics? 

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And then all of a sudden, no. 
She. 

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Just started speaking in tongues
from the start and that thing 

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just starts moving around on its
own. 

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OK. 
And. 

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This is like. 
Throwing me for a loop and then 

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the you know, the dishwasher 
turns on and we never use that. 

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And it was, and it was still 
running, kicking out foam by the

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time I got yes, which was hours 
later, Yeah. 

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And you know it never worked 
right after. 

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All right, so things are things 
are, you know, the lights are 

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out, the dishwashers or the 
lights come back on, the 

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dishwasher starts going, the 
power comes back on or what's no

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power. 
And then she no power 

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dishwashers on. 
She's what? 

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She's still talking. 
She's talking, she's doing her 

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thing, like I don't know what 
she's saying, OK? 

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And then all of a sudden I feel 
this dark energy in the room, 

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just awful. 
And it starts, it pulls me to 

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the ground and starts dragging 
me across the floor. 

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There's nobody touching me. 
I'm getting pulled to the 

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kitchen. 
John, you're there. 

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Not yet. 
No, not yet. 

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I, But when I got there. 
Oh well, I'll tell. 

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OK, go ahead. 
OK, keep going. 

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So I'm getting pulled into the 
kitchen and I'm like feeling 

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helpless and I'm pushing with 
all my might and power to keep 

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myself from crossing that salt 
line between the kitchen and the

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dining room. 
And it was one of the darkest 

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experiences of my life. 
I've never felt that before. 

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And. 
He has never. 

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Felt that sense, yeah. 
So. 

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And who else? 
So it's just you, this girl. 

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Was there somebody else there? 
It's me, it's his ex-girlfriend,

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it's his current girlfriend at 
the time, and I believe there 

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were. 
There was most likely either two

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or three other people. 
There, there were two or three 

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other people. 
There I can't. 

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Remember who they are, The chick
from Jersey, The Marissa. 

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Yeah, Marissa was there from 
Jersey. 

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And probably those two clowns 
that used to follow around at 

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first. 
Yes, yes, probably. 

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I don't I don't remember their. 
Name what are they doing at this

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time? 
Yeah, so and. 

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What are they doing at this 
time? 

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Is anybody trying to help you 
off the floor? 

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No, they're all like feeling 
woozy and sick. 

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One person went to the bathroom 
and start throwing up. 

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It was, it was just awful, awful
experience. 

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I fought it off with everything 
I had and kept myself in that 

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dining room. 
And then I walk out to the front

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door to open the door to get 
some air. 

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I went straight the other 
direction. 

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Because the dining. 
Rooms between the kitchen and 

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and the living room. 
I ran. 

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I bolted out to the front door 
and I'm looking across the 

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street and I see these big green
glowing eyes staring me down and

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I nearly crap myself. 
Now you know. 

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Now just to paint this picture 
when you walked out his house. 

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That's a pretty solid picture. 
He he lived at a dead end and 

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there if I remember correctly at
the den and there were no St. 

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lights. 
It was just as the lights coming

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from that factory or a 
warehouse. 

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There was the factory across the
street and I was looking across 

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where the parking lot for the 
factory is and on the other side

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of the parking lot there's these
woods and there's these two 

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green glowing eye shaped lights 
staring it down and I. 

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Froze. 
Like what is this? 

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And I ran back in OK. 
So then you run back in Is when 

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does everything go back to 
normal? 

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Not until this guy arrives. 
This guy arrives not long 

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afterward. 
He bolts in it his leather 

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jacket. 
What's going on here? 

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And he felt whatever energy was 
going on and he had with him his

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friend who doesn't believe in 
any of this whatsoever. 

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And he just. 
Bark here. 

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So let me let me go now. 
I'm going to tell the story from

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my perspective as I walk in. 
I walk into this house. 

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OK? 
At this point, you're laying on 

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the couch. 
Yeah, OK. 

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You are. 
Just you weren't, you're out of 

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me, dude. 
Like, I was like, what the hell 

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is going on? 
I was like, you guys started 

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without me, you know, partying 
without me, Like the hell is 

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going on here. 
But dude, I felt it. 

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My, my, my good friend. 
Just he doesn't believe in any 

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of this stuff till to this day. 
And I'm still great friends with

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him. 
He starts puking out of nowhere.

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You know, we, we didn't do 
anything beforehand. 

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We just came from work. 
We literally worked, showered, 

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went, went to start the party. 
Yeah. 

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All right, so, you know, we walk
in, I see him on the couch. 

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I hear she's still chanting. 
Yeah, she's still, she's stuck 

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in whatever zone and whatever 
entrapment that is, she's still 

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chanting. 
And it is. 

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It was gibberish. 
I couldn't understand, couldn't 

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make out what it was. 
It didn't sound like like 

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languages. 
It literally sounded like 

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gibberish. 
And I'm like, yo, what the what 

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the hell is going on? 
It's. 

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Probably why you broke up with 
her. 

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Yeah, yeah, right. 
It just broke up with her. 

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So all the sudden you. 
Do to her job. 

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Right, what I do, what I do to 
them all. 

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So all the sudden I, the green 
eyes that he's talking about, I 

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see them coming from, I see them
in the dining room. 

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As, as you know, when I come in,
I see the green eyes and my, my 

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girlfriend at the time gets 
dragged by her foot into the 

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through the dining room, right 
past the salt line into the 

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kitchen. 
And like she's screaming and the

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second she goes through the 
kitchen dude, you don't hear her

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for shit. 
Yep. 

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So I literally bolt into the 
dining room, grab the, the, the,

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the spirit board, run outside, 
start lighting this motherfucker

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on fire. 
It's not catching. 

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So I have a lighter. 
So I, I threw it on the ground 

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and I said, wait a minute, hold 
on. 

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I went in my pocket. 
I pulled out a blunt at the time

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I was smoking blunts, sparked 
that shit up. 

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Got a bunch of dried sticks and 
leaves, couple of cinder blocks 

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because it was like a factory 
over there and there was like 

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mad debris and whatnot set up 
right in the middle of this dead

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end road. 
A little like little fire. 

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And I roasted the shit out of 
the spirit board. 

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The second it was charred, I 
walked back into the house. 

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My friend is done puking. 
He's up on his feet. 

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All the lights are on. 
The dishwasher is still kicking 

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out foam but it's slowed down. 
And that the kitchen was a mess 

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after that. 
And. 

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My ex claims she doesn't 
remember what happened. 

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She thought nothing happened. 
She had no idea. 

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And my current girlfriend was 
just petrified, you know, for 

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the rest of the night, the rest 
of the night, the rest of her 

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life. 
Yeah, basically. 

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And it was, it was literally one
of the craziest things that I've

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ever walked into. 
If I remember correctly, because

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I saw somebody asked the 
pamphlet spelled out Abaddon. 

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Yes. 
When it was moving on its own, 

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yes, it's spelled out Abaddon. 
Someone asked what the pamphlet 

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was, was saying when it was it's
spelled out Abaddon. 

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What does that mean? 
Does that mean something? 

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So Abaddon is one of the Lords 
of the Abyss in in Christian 

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Judeo mythos and probably 
farther back. 

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It's probably also pre Alytic, 
but I don't quote me on that. 

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You know, I'm not an expert in 
the the foundings of Christian 

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Judeo. 
You sound like Egan Spangler. 

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Right, but there's no well, 
listen which which? 

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What's wild though, is like I've
encountered that entity later 

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on, like I encountered like I 
documented that later on in my 

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life, I ended up coming across 
this thing again. 

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So I can tell you at the 
undisclosed location, so. 

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I'm looking up how do you spell 
it? 

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What is it? 
Abaddon, it's ABB it's. 

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Either ABY or a BADON, something
like that. 

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Be one of those two, yeah. 
Abaddon means Abaddon means 

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destruction or destroyer. 
The term appears in various 

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contexts, primarily in religious
texts and later in popular 

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culture. 
Abaddon is often used to refer 

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to a place of destruction or the
realm of the dead, often in 

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parallel parallel with Sheol, 
the grave or underworld. 

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For example, in Job 26, Six 
States, Sheol is naked before 

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him. 
Abaddon has no cover the New 

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Testament Book of Revelation in 
revelation 9/11, abaddon is 

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described as an Angel of the 
bottomless pit and the king of 

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an army of locusts. 
These locusts are depicted as 

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demonic creatures of the power 
to torment people who do not 

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have the seal of God, we. 
Definitely. 

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So. 
So, literature. 

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Let's see. 
In literature and pop culture, 

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Abaddon has been a recurring 
figure in literature, film, 

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television, games, often 
retaining its association with 

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destruction and the demonic, and
John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's 

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Progress. 
Abaddon is a falfiend. 

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There's a lot of thing gives me 
a lot of books. 

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Oh, Azkaban in Harry Potter 
subtly references it because 

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it's a combination of Alcatraz 
and Abaddon. 

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Oh shit. 
Azkaban Abaddon's Gate is in the

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third novel, The Expanse, in the
science fiction series. 

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So people use it to reference a 
lot of, I guess. 

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OK All right. 
Yeah. 

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Now why? 
Why do you think this happened? 

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00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,920
Honestly, I had I had to do. 
The hell is Mike into? 

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00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,680
She she had to do something. 
She well, well, First off, she 

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was still. 
Better at you. 

429
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,520
Well, not, not just that she was
also mentally ill. 

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00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,840
Yeah, she had a lot of she was. 
I always warn that people that 

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actually are mentally ill should
not mess with the paranormal. 

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And that's a prime reason and 
example and targets. 

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It wasn't her fault. 
She had a hard life. 

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She, you know, a really messed 
up life that led her down, you 

435
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,720
know, these paths and you know, 
all the, the trauma of her life,

436
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,680
you know, LED her to that point.
But she could have been, she 

437
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,680
could have been very bitter, 
bitter at me. 

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Or, or it's the fact that her 
mental state was so messed up 

439
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,680
that she tapped into something 
that you know. 

440
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,000
Or it tapped into. 
Her or it tapped into her. 

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But I mean she was still 
chanting. 

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That was the crazy. 
Like while all this is going on,

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she didn't stop. 
I know like that. 

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That's why I was, I don't know, 
like I, I'm trying to remember 

445
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again, this is gone 20 years 
ago. 

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Like I'm trying to remember like
all the little finite details 

447
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because you would think like, 
you know, they would be, you 

448
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,440
know, like super important. 
I remember her just not stopping

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chanting, not until the board 
was torched. 

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My, my other ex disappearing, 
which was insane. 

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Like, you know, we went into the
kitchen like she was gone after 

452
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,160
she broke, broke that salt line.
Yeah, she was gone. 

453
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,640
She wasn't in the kitchen. 
Thankfully, I used every ounce 

454
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,440
of my strength not to. 
Get yeah, yeah, dude, like right

455
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,520
now and why it was in the 
kitchen. 

456
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,040
That's the other thing. 
Why were why did you see the 

457
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,520
eyes outside? 
I always had that. 

458
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,120
I always had a fear of that 
kitchen growing up. 

459
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,240
Yeah. 
Like when it was dark in there. 

460
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,440
It was dark. 
If you shut the light in there, 

461
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,520
you couldn't see anything. 
It was like creepy to go in 

462
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,880
there because it was an old 
house and that house, somebody 

463
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,720
back in the 30s hung themselves 
in the basement. 

464
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,680
OK. 
So I mean, there's a lot of dark

465
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,360
energy in that. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

466
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:33,280
Where's that house? 
And so the crazy thing is the 

467
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,880
eyewitness to this, like I said,
the person who had nothing to do

468
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,200
this whatsoever, my buddy that 
came with me to this day, he 

469
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,120
turns around and he goes, I know
it happens. 

470
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,880
I can't explain how it happens. 
And I pretend like it did not 

471
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,720
happen when I asked him about 
it. 

472
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,400
Cuz I've actually, I actually 
when we were talking about 

473
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,640
getting King James on for this, 
you know, I was like, hey, I'm 

474
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,760
like, I'd love to get you, you 
know, in on this too, just to be

475
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,120
that, you know, other non 
believing eyewitness and he 

476
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,920
wanted nothing to do. 
He's one of the basement 

477
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,040
dwellers, you know. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

478
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,960
He's about the basement 
dwellers. 

479
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,520
Yeah, he what? 
John? 

480
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,720
What do you think it is? 
What do you think? 

481
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,360
What do you think it was John? 
Cuz we're not, you know we're 

482
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,320
not thinking it's demons from 
hell, right? 

483
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,680
I mean. 
No, no, I, I honestly think 

484
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:26,360
that, and I do believe that 
interdimensional entities can do

485
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,240
this. 
I think that she either tapped 

486
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,040
into something or something 
tapped into her that allowed an 

487
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:38,360
inter dimensional entity to come
full force into that house that 

488
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,000
day. 
And I also think it has to do 

489
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,520
with other things that I think 
it was a perfect recipe for 

490
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,360
disaster. 
The mental illness, the, the 

491
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:52,720
house we were in with all the 
energy, the spirit board, I just

492
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:58,200
think it was a, you know, it was
just the perfect elements to 

493
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,040
create that. 
And the other thing too is, 

494
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:07,200
which was really odd is walking 
in there, I felt nothing I did 

495
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,160
like as far as being sick, like 
I felt it was heavy. 

496
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,160
I walked in there and I was 
like, whoa, like I knew 

497
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,680
something was wrong, but nothing
affected me. 

498
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,400
Yeah, that was the odd thing. 
Like everyone else is getting 

499
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,560
affected and I was the one that 
was able to go in grab the 

500
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,160
board. 
Well, you're not of this world 

501
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,600
to begin with because you get 
affected by the sun out there, 

502
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,040
not. 
That that is true, that is true.

503
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,320
The sun's your enemy. 
What's the significance of salt?

504
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,200
So the whole thing with salt is 
that it's a crystal. 

505
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:42,040
It is a crystal and in, you 
know, popular mythology, salt is

506
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,280
a way to protect yourself from 
spirits and evil forces and 

507
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,680
things like. 
That oh, it's one of the top. 

508
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,200
It's one of your top 4. 
Crystal, Jesus, salt and sage. 

509
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,600
That's it. 
That's it. 

510
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Now I don't use salt, you know 
what I mean? 

511
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,600
But then again, this is going 
back 20 years ago and that, I 

512
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,240
mean, that was pretty smart of 
them to protect themselves, you 

513
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040
know, like they were trying to 
protect themselves with salt, 

514
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,160
you know? 
Then your mother goes to make 

515
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,240
something for dinner when she 
gets back from vacation. 

516
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Where's all the fucking? 
Salt. 

517
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,960
So what do you do? 
What do you what do you try to 

518
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,080
do with salt? 
Not every year with the parties.

519
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,320
But you spit, you pour the salt.
Is that what you're saying on 

520
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,760
the floor? 
Yeah, and you create a, a line 

521
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:23,680
or a circle, whatever you're 
trying. 

522
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,240
To pour of an. 
Oblong like yeah, the way that 

523
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,080
place your shape is in this. 
Room. 

524
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800
But we, we, we surrounded the 
room. 

525
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,920
I see. 
Yeah, and that's the other thing

526
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,640
too. the IT it, it, it broke the
salt line. 

527
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,280
Yeah, it it gave 2 shits about 
the salt line. 

528
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120
You know it. 
Wasn't a it wasn't a typical 

529
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,480
like spirit type of energy. 
This was definitely something 

530
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,000
else. 
No way. 

531
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,920
Nothing's going to get all those
people sick that were there. 

532
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Nothing's going to keep her 
trapped in the trance, drag two 

533
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,720
people. 
Because I didn't get to see him 

534
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,200
get dragged. 
Everybody else saw him. 

535
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Gotcha. 
I wasn't there yet. 

536
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,800
Yeah, I got to see the other 
chick get freaking dragged, and 

537
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,680
that's when I was like, yo, what
the hell was going on? 

538
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,480
As far as I thought everybody 
was playing games with me. 

539
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,600
Two like the other thing. 
Has this ever happened before or

540
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000
since? 
The only thing there's been a 

541
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,360
couple of times of note with me 
using the spirit board. 

542
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,440
One time I felt like something 
was compressing my chest. 

543
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760
That was that buck out. 
One time doing the spirit board,

544
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,280
I got what people would call a 
download about a woman who was 

545
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,720
raped by three men that worked 
here and she worked here too. 

546
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,720
And then she came. 
I didn't want to talk about it. 

547
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,720
It was actually hold on. 
Let me, let me just say this. 

548
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,960
When I was doing the spirit 
board on live, I got this 

549
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,280
download, OK? 
And I felt everything. 

550
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,160
I felt what the men were 
feeling. 

551
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,680
I felt what she was feeling, 
what she was smelling, what they

552
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,800
were smelling like, everything 
like the taste of the, of the 

553
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,840
brand of the Brandy, like they 
were drinking like, or no, it 

554
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,880
wasn't Brandy. 
It was Jen. 

555
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Excuse me, the everything, like,
like literally everything. 

556
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Like I felt it all and I turned 
around to my audience and I say,

557
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,680
guys, this just happened to me, 
but because it is a personal 

558
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,920
account and you guys didn't 
experience it, I'm not going to 

559
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,960
talk about it. 
We're just going to move on. 

560
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280
I didn't have to talk about it. 
She came through through the 

561
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,640
spirit box and started talking 
about it. 

562
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000
So she gave the details 
afterwards. 

563
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,960
So that's happened. 
And then the most recent, when I

564
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,000
did the spirit board, I got bit 
on my leg. 

565
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,200
So do we think, do we think, do 
we think our friend Mike here is

566
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,200
some sort of magnet for what? 
Are you dropping your pants over

567
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,040
there? 
What's happening? 

568
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,640
No, no, I'm showing Mike. 
The we, we, we can all see what 

569
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,680
you're showing, Mike. 
No, my my. 

570
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,800
My phone's in use. 
I wish I could show you the 

571
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,840
picture. 
Mike, do you, Mike, do you ever 

572
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,720
mess with these spirit apps and 
Spirit? 

573
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,040
I haven't. 
Since that, but I did earlier on

574
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,480
in my life a lot of times. 
One time a friend of mine, so my

575
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,640
mom worked at this Community 
Center, Civic Center type place 

576
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,520
in the town I lived in and her 
boss's son. 

577
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,800
And I did it in that center one 
time with the spirit board and 

578
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440
didn't know any history about 
the area really or nothing. 

579
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,080
And we we're talking to the 
spirit says its name's Todd. 

580
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,800
Does it say first or last name 
just says Todd. 

581
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,480
So later on I go to the library 
like few days later and I'm 

582
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,360
looking up history of the town 
and there was this kid that 

583
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,920
murdered his family. 
He was like a teenager or 

584
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,640
whatever, murdered everybody in 
his family except the little kid

585
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,520
that the youngest kid and then 
murdered himself. 

586
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,520
The youngest kid was with a 
nanny or something somewhere 

587
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000
else. 
So he wasn't there and I was and

588
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:51,160
his last name was Todd. 
And I was like, oh, so and I 

589
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,520
knew nothing of that fryer. 
So I mean, I knew they, they 

590
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,760
worked if you knew you know what
you're doing or whatever. 

591
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,680
But if you don't know what 
you're doing, I wouldn't play 

592
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,200
with them. 
So listen, I just I just took 

593
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,840
the picture, ignore the book 
bite scab in the middle because 

594
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,320
I recently got bit by a 
mosquito. 

595
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:18,080
But you can see the scar, Gary, 
this bled profusely. 

596
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,200
This wouldn't stop bleeding like
it was. 

597
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,800
It was bad after I did the 
spirit. 

598
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,120
Board. 
It's like a snake bite. 

599
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,560
I know what I said. 
Snake bite. 

600
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Yeah, Yeah. 
That's gross. 

601
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,800
Look at that scar. 
Obviously ignore the middle. 

602
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,360
Ignore the middle. 
That's a scab. 

603
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,640
But that you could see the scar.
Yeah, it's gross. 

604
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560
That's insane. 
And it's these punctures, dude. 

605
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,120
It was and I didn't feel it. 
I didn't feel it. 

606
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,160
All I know is that after I did 
the spirit board, I felt kind of

607
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,880
weird. 
I went and I laid down and I the

608
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
reason why I felt weird is 
because I was just losing blood 

609
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200
and I had no idea. 
And I'm live and I'm like, ah 

610
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,680
crap guys, I'm bleeding. 
Don't you feel like we should be

611
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,680
turning on some spirit boxes now
to see if Mike who likes Mike? 

612
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,560
To see if anything I. 
Don't think they're like me. 

613
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,040
I mean, I feel like we're going 
to get maybe you're just like, 

614
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,400
hey, Mike, Can you imagine if 
you're like just hated by the 

615
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,800
deep? 
Like is it cuts? 

616
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Have you ever met a good ghost, 
Mike? 

617
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,400
Yeah, I've spoken to my 
grandmother on them. 

618
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,760
OK. 
I, I went like couple years 

619
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680
before all that happened. 
I I I pulled up on a spirit 

620
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,600
board with a with a friend of 
mine to talk to my grandmother 

621
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,200
because I I knew she was around 
there at the time. 

622
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,360
At your house. 
What do you do you feel anything

623
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,840
in this office of his? 
I will say I do have a feeling 

624
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,120
in my spine. 
John, you got to turn on a box. 

625
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,120
Turn a box on turn. 
A box on. 

626
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Let's see what's let's see who 
comes through to say something. 

627
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,920
If they're telling you to go 
after yourself, there's 

628
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,600
someone's going to. 
I want to see, I want to see a 

629
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400
green eyed mask. 
I want to see a mask right 

630
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,760
there. 
Like get green eyes in it. 

631
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,199
I mean, if we got some dual 
energy going on here, I feel 

632
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,120
like it's only right I think one
of you. 

633
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,120
Should I got boxed on? 
We'll see what comes to. 

634
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,000
One of you should cut 1 and 
praise Abenon and see what we 

635
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:29,040
get. 
You must have like hell put some

636
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,280
blood on a mirror, smear it 
around and then like let's then 

637
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,560
be like with Abenon and see what
happens I feel like. 

638
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,800
Honestly, if anything comes 
through it's going to be 

639
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,520
directed to about Sam because I 
still haven't put away the Sam 

640
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,159
mask. 
Here's a Here's a Here's a 

641
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,199
practical question. 
Did you ever get your house that

642
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:57,960
house checked for gas leaks? 
I I was, I was a kid. 

643
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,120
I didn't say that. 
Shit, yeah. 

644
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,200
I mean, listen, I didn't smell. 
I was in the fire department at 

645
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,160
the time and you know, I got a 
blood nose for, for gas leaks 

646
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,760
and things like that. 
Especially now, like, you know, 

647
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,800
I'm still the Super at the 
underscore's location. 

648
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,600
The second I got a whip of gas 
in the hallway, I know somebody 

649
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,520
left their, their, you know, 
their oven, you know, their oven

650
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,440
on and I got to check all the 
apartments. 

651
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,520
I didn't smell any gas. 
No, I didn't smell any gas. 

652
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Plus there was candles lit. 
There was. 

653
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,800
Yeah, that, that. 
Place would have blown up long 

654
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,920
before he got there. 
Like that's like, like just so 

655
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,800
you know, like that's how. 
Into a crater. 

656
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,040
That's how they knew that the 
washer, the the dishwasher was 

657
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,400
kicking out suds because there 
was limited light from the 

658
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,320
candles. 
Everything else went out. 

659
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Yeah, except for your sister's 
room. 

660
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Yeah, that's right. 
Except for your sister's room 

661
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,360
that. 
Was that was that was that was 

662
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,320
a. 
Front porch. 

663
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,400
That was a front porch. 
Yeah, she's a witch. 

664
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,320
Yeah, but your sister was a 
young child at the time, right? 

665
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,360
Oh dude. 
Well, John, what if I always 

666
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,880
said who are the worst in the 
paranormal? 

667
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,040
Children and old ladies? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

668
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Your sister's a witch, bro. 
Now what's now? 

669
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,920
Did she ever experience 
anything? 

670
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,600
The cat says there's something. 
Yep, there she is. 

671
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,960
She's coming to protect you, 
Jess. 

672
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,400
She wants to get on the. 
She wants her 15 seconds. 

673
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:32,280
Yeah, the boxy girl. 
Green eyes Now does your sister 

674
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,360
experience anything? 
No, not that I'm aware of. 

675
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:41,600
She never told me. 
Wow, we have a good. 

676
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200
One in our house. 
I don't know who this is. 

677
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Oh, is this your brother? 
Is this related to you, Anthony?

678
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,520
Oh yeah, that's my brother. 
He's on here, he's on the chat. 

679
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,040
He was telling me the other day 
about something he saw. 

680
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,000
He thought it was me walking up 
the stairs once and to his room.

681
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Are you? 
Guys, still no, no, no. 

682
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,200
We live in Stratford now so. 
There's an old guy. 

683
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,480
So where you're at now? 
In Stratford, Yeah. 

684
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,800
There's an old guy that I guess 
my, that my parents had bought 

685
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,200
the house from the family or 
whatever, they sold it when he 

686
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,520
was getting really old or 
whatever. 

687
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,360
But his spirit dwells in that 
house still because the energy 

688
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,760
is still there, OK. 
And the guy, apparently my 

689
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,480
brother saw what he thought was 
me walking up to his room. 

690
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,320
He went up and followed it and 
there was nobody there. 

691
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,080
I wasn't home. 
He walked into his somebody 

692
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,440
looked like you walked into your
his room. 

693
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Yeah, because he from the living
room there's stairs that go up 

694
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,120
to to the it's a think it's a 
Cape. 

695
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,320
It's a Cape Cod so. 
The the he has the. 2 rooms. 

696
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,160
It's one big room. 
That's where it touched him 

697
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,800
inappropriately. 
The old man ghost, it's like. 

698
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,680
I. 
Have oddly looks oddly look like

699
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,880
his brother, my brother. 
'S gonna troll us. 

700
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,720
I know that. 
Him and his fiance and his 

701
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,960
fiance's best friend. 
Are gonna troll us. 

702
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,080
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

703
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,800
So I mean, listen it. 
What happened? 

704
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,640
OK, but then how do you OK, what
do you do next? 

705
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,440
How do you go walk into the 
house the next day? 

706
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,880
Oh dude, we partied Gary. 
Gary, after all that was said 

707
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,880
and done, we partied. 
Like more people showed up. 

708
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Yeah, we just started, you know,
we just started, Johnny. 

709
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Just had to come to expel the 
spirits. 

710
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,240
Yeah, and then we, and then, and
then we just started going at 

711
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:35,840
it, man. 
We just started having a great 

712
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,680
time. 
Oh yeah. 

713
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,880
And filled the house up and and 
you know. 

714
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Boy O came and freaking made 
jungle juice and we freaking 

715
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,840
party. 
Yeah, dude, like it was that 

716
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680
that chick was getting railed 
out to sound like a pig 

717
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,880
upstairs. 
Remember that? 

718
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,120
That was hilarious. 
I've never heard anything like 

719
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,120
that, but it was a party. 
It was like a straight house 

720
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,960
party. 
There all right. 

721
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,960
It was, it was wild. 
You know what I mean? 

722
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,560
Like, yeah, that's literally 
what we did afterward, Yeah. 

723
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,360
Yeah, no one cared. 
No one cared that a spirit just 

724
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,080
sort of dragged you across the 
floor. 

725
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,960
Just. 
Moved on. 

726
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,920
We just yeah, you know what? 
You can't hang yourself. 

727
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,200
Up on the best. 
Hold on. 

728
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,800
So if I remember correctly, both
girls went home? 

729
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Yeah, both girls went home. 
They were they were all messed 

730
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,320
up. 
One of them ended up coming back

731
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,760
after the one I was dating at 
the time ended coming back after

732
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,440
with with one of her. 
You know what, I think I took 

733
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,960
them. 
You did take them. 

734
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,400
Save I took to drop off. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

735
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,840
And then your your current one 
stayed with me in the car 

736
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,640
riding. 
Yeah. 

737
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,040
Yeah. 
Back to the house, so. 

738
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,360
Back to the house. 
Yeah, that's right. 

739
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,880
Yeah. 
And then you picked up the other

740
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,480
ride. 
She didn't drive like you. 

741
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,240
Yeah. 
Like me. 

742
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,920
Yeah. 
To do it was it was literally 

743
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,880
business as usual after that. 
It was. 

744
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,840
It was. 
That's what it was, you know. 

745
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,400
And we just, you know. 
What's wrong with the people? 

746
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,880
Are you guys right? 
What is wrong with you? 

747
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,400
Everything. 
Everything was wrong. 

748
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Hold on, hold on. 
In my defense here, In my 

749
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,600
defense, I just came out of work
working all day digging. 

750
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,920
There was no ghost. 
No ghost was going to stop you 

751
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,520
from partying. 
Hell. 

752
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,200
No, wait, wait. 
So this is a no. 

753
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,040
Let me ask you, what were you 
doing anything in the paranormal

754
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,760
before at this time of your life
or no, John. 

755
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,040
Oh John, were you doing anything
paranormal related this time of 

756
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,440
your life? 
We'll. 

757
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,800
Tell in a moment. 
Yeah. 

758
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,320
Well, well, at the time I was 
doing, you know, investigations 

759
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:37,080
here and there definitely, you 
know, this is this is after the 

760
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,720
whole thing at the Firehouse 
with my first like actual swar 

761
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,520
way, you know, like 
investigating this at the time, 

762
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,960
I think it was the there's. 
Johnny at that time. 

763
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:56,880
No, yes. 
Isn't it funny how I don't like 

764
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,640
Joe? 
There's a real. 

765
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,320
Fun today. 
No, no, no, no, no, no. 

766
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Show up. 
Wait a minute, where is it? 

767
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Oh, I got to pull it up so. 
What is that? 

768
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,240
Is that like the 90s? 
No, that was, that's early 

769
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,440
2000s, early 2000s. 
We were. 20 So it was like 04. 

770
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,640
Yeah. 
All right. 

771
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,440
It was before I met my my now 
ex-wife. 

772
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,040
Yeah. 
There's a fine line between New 

773
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,800
York Italian and New York Puerto
Rican. 

774
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,200
It looks like when you're in the
when you're terribly shaved, 

775
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:23,840
pull. 
Up the. 

776
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,840
Dates. 
Oh, and he's gonna pull up just 

777
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,160
to give you an idea. 
Be careful. 

778
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,080
You might see some inappropriate
stuff as I'm trying to. 

779
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Johnny on drums. 

780
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,320
Yeah, yeah, he showed me on 
drums. 

781
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,840
Look at you dude. 
Neon Trump's. 

782
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,280
That's shitty. 
Beards. 

783
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,640
That's stupid that that's he was
on. 

784
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,320
His McDonald's he. 
Was on his McDonald's chicken 

785
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,760
Caesar salad kick. 
That's all he ever ate. 

786
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,520
He dropped down so much weight. 
I know, yeah, he's a good 

787
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,800
looking dude if he drops that 
way and let's like look at the 

788
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,160
the stupid. 
Beard. 

789
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,040
There it is. 
Do that one. 

790
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Fill that one. 
Yeah, that's the one. 

791
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're on. 
He's screaming, me screaming. 

792
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,720
Oh my dude, it's like you're 
unrecognizable. 

793
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,560
Yeah, yeah. 
It's crazy. 

794
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,080
Crazy, right? 
Yeah, crazy. 

795
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,440
Back in the day. 
Yeah, that was back in the day. 

796
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,960
So it's fun. 
You imagine. 

797
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,800
The ghost of yourself. 
Yeah, a very, a very. 

798
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,800
Told me to do it. 
Yeah, a very wild me. 

799
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,120
You know, I I mean, listen, that
entire time too, that was the 

800
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,120
third day of that party. 
All three of those days I 

801
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,720
literally part went to work 
partied. 

802
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,560
I don't mean to work. 
Part in the middle for a second 

803
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:44,000
but I just heard that say do it 
as I was thinking to show the 

804
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,440
picture of the guy who is the 
non believer. 

805
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,520
I'm not going to do. 
That don't do it, but if the 

806
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,560
spirit was just elevate to do 
it, yeah, Palpatine do it. 

807
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,960
We don't have his permission. 
To no, we're not gonna do that, 

808
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,360
but yeah, cuz he's in some of 
those pictures too. 

809
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Long time ago, Long time ago, 

810
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,240
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

811
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:08,960
So yeah, at the time I was just 
doing like one place I was 

812
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,120
investigating at that time was a
Speakeasy, which was pretty. 

813
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,000
Was it pretty? 
Long. 

814
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,360
Yeah. 
I've heard that for that story. 

815
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,360
It's a good one. 
Yeah. 

816
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,280
We were just sort of getting 
started. 

817
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,960
Yes, Yeah, Yeah. 
So I'm in my infancy, if you 

818
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,720
will. 
Sure. 

819
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,360
Because I don't consider 
anything when I was a child up 

820
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,960
until I was 18, anything 
prominent, because a lot of it 

821
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,400
could have been imagination. 
A lot of it could have been 

822
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,160
misinterpretation. 
Yeah. 

823
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,000
I was looking at it from a mind 
of an immature individual. 

824
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,400
No, I want it. 
More an adult. 

825
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,440
So I'm just I'm figuring. 
So you're saying your sister was

826
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,640
home that night? 
Mike in the No, it wasn't. 

827
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,240
Her room light was the only one 
that didn't get. 

828
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,120
Affected. 
Yeah, OK, But sure, she wasn't 

829
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,920
there. 
No, no, my parents used to go 

830
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,680
away and bring them because they
were like 1213. 

831
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,080
I stopped going on vacations 
with them when I was like 717 

832
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,200
was the last time I did right 
when. 

833
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:58,920
I graduated. 
I see. 

834
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,880
All right, I get it after that. 
They never invited me again. 

835
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,320
I get it, it's OK. 
But the real fun is when they 

836
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,440
weren't there, you know what I 
mean? 

837
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,720
Oh, I know House to yourself. 
So yeah, I mean, listen, it was 

838
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,360
it was pretty wild and it was 
all instinctual. 

839
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,520
Me walking in there, me grabbing
that board, you know, it was 

840
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,760
just like, all right, I know I 
have to torch this board. 

841
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,000
Is that the worst experience 
you've ever had with a spirit 

842
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,960
board? 
What was that? 

843
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,280
Is that the worst experience 
you've ever had with a spirit 

844
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,920
board? 
I had to burn one more like a 

845
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,800
year or so before futzing 
around. 

846
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,960
I forget where I was. 
It wasn't even me. 

847
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,440
It was a couple of friends were 
playing with one of the ones I 

848
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,360
had because I always had one and
and I had to burn that one 

849
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,560
because it got it started 
talking to somebody that 

850
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,560
something that was talking very 
negatively. 

851
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,920
I was like, I got to take this 
outside. 

852
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,680
I I stopped it because, and this
was like, I want to say it was 

853
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920
like a year and a half before. 
So we weren't really hanging 

854
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,240
out, hanging out as much at that
point. 

855
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:05,600
So I was trying to remember who 
it was. 

856
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,840
Is this in? 
Is this in Port Chester? 

857
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,440
No, this is next town over, 
Grant. 

858
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,760
Yeah, next time. 
Yeah. 

859
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,640
This is all in East Port 
Chester, East Port Chester, East

860
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,240
Port Chester. 
Sure. 

861
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,080
You know, Yeah. 
So yeah, you don't listen. 

862
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,680
It, it was definitely, 
definitely an experience. 

863
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,160
And I you know. 
Mike, is that the scariest 

864
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,560
thing? 
You said you burned another 

865
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,720
spirit board once, but is that 
the scariest thing you've ever 

866
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,800
gone through? 
No. 

867
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920
No, not. 
Scariest by far was what what 

868
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,320
happened, the big story we just 
told. 

869
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,440
Oh, that's no, that's what I 
meant was that was this story 

870
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,280
not. 
Oh yeah, that was by far. 

871
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,880
I never played with that stuff 
really again. 

872
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,960
I feel, I feel the entities in a
room when I walk in. 

873
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,320
I feel, you know, it's just, you
know, we are very spiritually 

874
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,120
inclined. 
I'll put we, we feel that energy

875
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,880
in the room and I try to ignore 
it, but you can't. 

876
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200
It's there. 
And equally as dangerous, his 

877
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,760
father makes his horseradish. 
That almost put me in the 

878
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,440
hospital. 
Really, he hasn't made that in 

879
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,080
years. 
I love horseradish, know this. 

880
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,920
No, you know, that was the 
kielbasa. 

881
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,400
King Oh, that was the dude. 
He had the Kielbasa king one. 

882
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,840
He used to do so. 
I almost, I almost knocked. 

883
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,200
I knocked unconscious. 
That thing will clear out all 

884
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,880
your sinuses. 
What maybe if you, maybe if you 

885
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,840
had it that night, you would 
have cleared out that demon in 

886
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,640
your house? 
What's the most haunted place 

887
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,600
you've ever been to outside of 
your own house? 

888
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:45,000
Outside of my own house, You 
know what I felt when we went to

889
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,960
that, that that park years ago 
in Rye, What is that one with 

890
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,400
the burnt down mansion or 
whatever? 

891
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,080
It was like right off the Post 
Rd. and we went down. 

892
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,320
It was in the woods. 
They used to have a house there.

893
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,440
We went down there. 
It was like all the world's on 

894
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,120
hold. 
On, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look on

895
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,320
the map. 
I I hold on. 

896
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,600
I remember where it is. 
Hold on that. 

897
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,200
Oh, you're talking about, I 
think. 

898
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,280
I think he's talking about the 
quarry. 

899
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,800
There's a quarry there where I 
get quartz crystals from and 

900
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,640
whatnot on that. 
I think that's where you're 

901
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,160
talking. 
About hold on, I'm pulling the 

902
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,120
post row. 
Right. 

903
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,760
It's a it's either that or 
across the street from there. 

904
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,800
You know what? 
I haven't taken them there yet. 

905
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,000
That's actually the there. 
Yeah. 

906
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,200
That's it. 
That's where the quarry. 

907
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,720
Yeah. 
That's where that's where we. 

908
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,200
Yeah, he's talking. 
He's talking about that. 

909
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,760
So I caught a Native American 
there. 

910
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Crystal Parko just texted me. 
He's watching. 

911
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Oh, yeah. 
Oh, sorry. 

912
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,720
I dropped. 
That's all right. 

913
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Yeah, he goes. 
Yeah. 

914
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,160
What am I watching? 
What about my basement? 

915
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,840
Bazoo, listen, Bazoo, listen. 
We don't we don't need to we 

916
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,280
don't need to talk about his 
basement. 

917
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,360
You know they. 
Used to tease me with that 

918
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,280
mazoo. 
The Mazoo is getting it. 

919
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,600
Yeah, he's saying it right now. 
No. 

920
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,960
So what he's talking about is 
the quarry. 

921
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,600
We call that the quarry, but 
it's a it's a Nature Center 

922
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,320
where I've actually caught 
Native American spirits, you 

923
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,280
know, like we, we, we've caught 
and it's, it's just a phenomenal

924
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,880
and definitely a completely 
different energy there. 

925
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,440
Yeah. 
Like it's it is Why? 

926
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,840
I don't think I've ever seen 
you. 

927
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,240
I don't think I've ever seen you
there. 

928
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,640
Yeah. 
I don't think I've ever seen you

929
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,280
there have. 
I, I go every couple months 

930
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,600
there. 
That's not a spot I go to. 

931
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,880
It's not in my normal rotation. 
You know, a lot of the times 

932
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,880
there's a lot of families there 
with kids and it's just, you 

933
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,600
know, I try to pick and choose 
when I go, when it's the 

934
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,120
quietest. 
Speaking of. 

935
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,880
Places it's on Tuesday we're 
dropping our Sleepy Hollow 

936
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,840
episode yes so that'll. 
Be Mike have. 

937
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,320
You gone to Sleepy Hollow? 
I don't. 

938
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,680
Think you I don't think you 
should bro. 

939
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,320
I'm. 
Pretty certain that if anyone's 

940
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,480
going to see the Headless 
Horseman, I always wanted to go 

941
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,480
there to. 
Find my ex's, my ex's great 

942
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,040
great grandfather's buried up 
somewhere up there. 

943
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,120
The which the the main I don't 
know. 

944
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,720
Which one I'm still trying to 
find? 

945
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,360
Them because why? 
Why is that something you want 

946
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,320
to find? 
Who wait for my kids. 

947
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,840
It's for my kids. 
I I. 

948
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,640
Do all I I see not for me for 
them. 

949
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,800
Got it. 
OK, so. 

950
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,200
What's called? 
Yeah, the, the we got that 

951
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,240
episode coming out. 
So we have, we have our guests. 

952
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,800
Let's let's talk about our 
guest. 

953
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,760
Our guest is going to be a is a 
author, historian, clairvoyant. 

954
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,320
His name's Sam Baltrusis. 
He's been on a ton of different 

955
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:41,680
shows, you know, for Travel 
Channel, a lot of ghost shows, 

956
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,120
monster shows, things like that.
He's written a ton of books. 

957
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,360
He is going to be talking about 
he wrote a book called. 

958
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,200
Yeah, he wrote a book. 
He wrote this book. 

959
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,000
Ghost to Sleepy Hollow. 
More good, more great. 

960
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,240
Read I read it more than just. 
You guys can check it out. 

961
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:02,120
And in the link tree in my bio 
here and for yourself, the guy 

962
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,560
writes about all the spirits and
John is they you guys have she 

963
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,400
shared a couple of stories about
some which are which is going to

964
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,480
be really interesting. 
But I think the interesting 

965
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,840
thing with the most interesting 
thing about it, which is this 

966
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:19,400
idea of a town that could have 
meant like the town manifested 

967
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960
the stone spirits that's in 
there, which makes total sense, 

968
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,160
have like the the legend sort of
created it. 

969
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,320
So the story, then the legend. 
And then it. 

970
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Manifested, which is an A wild 
concept to think about. 

971
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,720
It's still and. 
What's wild is after that 

972
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:43,360
episode's there and the 
following week we're going back 

973
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,400
to the cottage and what's. 
Awesome about this. 

974
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,800
Place I, I didn't drop the name 
of the place yet. 

975
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,560
They just know it as the 
cottage. 

976
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,680
They're going to get the full 
name of the place after they 

977
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,840
watch the the episode we're 
going to be. 

978
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,560
They upgraded me to the King's 
Suite. 

979
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,080
So we're going to be in the main
Victorian mansion in the King's 

980
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:11,840
suite for one of the nights and 
then the next night I'll be at 

981
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,360
the cottage. 
It's all on the same grounds. 

982
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:16,920
It's just one of the other 
buildings that you could see in 

983
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,520
the background. 
Are you going to do a walkabout?

984
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,200
I mean, you should walk around. 
Because I'd love to see you 

985
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,440
walking around some of the 
places he mentioned, some of the

986
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,840
are you allowed? 
What's the deal? 

987
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,440
So I am allowed. 
I'm. 

988
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,560
I am. 
Allowed after a certain time. 

989
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,640
I have free reign of the 
property after midnight. 

990
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,480
I just mean Sleepy Hollow in 
general too. 

991
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,760
Like the bridges, the things. 
There's some graves, yeah. 

992
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,040
Or do they give you 100 and 
down? 

993
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,520
Then when I go to Sleepy. 
Hollow Cemetery, I walk around 

994
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,680
and I go down to the bridge and,
and all that. 

995
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,920
But this, this property, the 
estate, if you will, I'm allowed

996
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,200
to walk around. 
The only problem is service. 

997
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,440
But I actually just on the 
technical side. 

998
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,240
I know everyone loves to hear 
about technical stuff. 

999
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
We love it. 
On the technical side, I just 

1000
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,440
got rid of my T-Mobile and I 
just upgraded to Starlink. 

1001
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,480
I. 
Told you you should try, did 

1002
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,720
you? 
You got the little thing. 

1003
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,120
So yes. 
So it see dude. 

1004
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,040
I'm telling you, it'll be. 
Here it'll be. 

1005
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:17,360
Here by before I go and cuz I 
get no service with the T-Mobile

1006
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,760
at the at the cottage OK service
with the Verizon cats going nuts

1007
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,840
and yeah I know the cats going 
nuts right dude terrace in the 

1008
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,200
middle of the desert will. 
Use Starlink and it works. 

1009
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,520
So it's going to work for you in
sleepy Tarrytown. 

1010
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,440
So what's it called so? 
Yeah, so I'm gonna be able to 

1011
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,840
test it out. 
That's actually where I'm gonna 

1012
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,240
test it out and I'm gonna. 
And I got the, I got the small 

1013
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:42,080
one that I can literally carry 
in my pocket, so. 

1014
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll. 
Be and it it came with a three 

1015
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,680
pack, so I'll have a bigger one 
for it. 

1016
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,000
It's it'll be good. 
But I got rid of one of the 

1017
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,480
services because T-Mobile I was,
I wasn't using That's gonna 

1018
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,360
that's gonna be your it. 
Wasn't everywhere you go. 

1019
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,480
No, thank you, T-Mobile. 
That's gonna work. 

1020
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,760
Wherever you are, man. 
Yeah, on all these places, yeah.

1021
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,400
So I should be able to walk 
around. 

1022
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,040
The estate after midnight. 
The only reason why after 

1023
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,000
midnight is so I'm not 
disturbing the guests. 

1024
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:09,600
And by midnight, all the guests 
will be drunk anyway. 

1025
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,960
So Yeah, Right. 
All right, Very. 

1026
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,720
That place. 
Is a party place, you know it's 

1027
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:17,520
a. 
Very ritzy party place, you 

1028
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,560
know, unless Mike's there and 
then everyone's throwing up on. 

1029
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,720
Themselves and speaking in 
tongues. 

1030
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,840
Well, hey, listen. 
As long as none of my. 

1031
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,760
Ex girlfriends get a hold of a 
spirit board. 

1032
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,760
We should be OK. 
Well, I don't think no, no. 

1033
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,360
You sure know how to pick them. 
I'm. 

1034
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:39,040
Sorry. 
One of them definitely isn't, 

1035
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:46,040
but you're on a spirit board. 
A lot of inside jokes happening 

1036
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,760
here, ladies. 
And gentlemen, oh man. 

1037
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,360
Well, that's a wild. 
Story Mike I mean it's a it's 

1038
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,120
sort of funny that you know, you
just kept going in that house 

1039
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,800
and there's no deal I never saw 
it again got to bring. 

1040
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,360
Positive energy. 
Back man, didn't we cook? 

1041
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,600
Also, didn't I make? 
The the, the, the, the glop 

1042
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,400
special, you know, with the, 
with the mozzarella cheese and 

1043
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,480
the sauce. 
Hold on. 

1044
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,120
And this, I don't know, you 
cooking stuff, dude. 

1045
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,840
I'm telling you, I think I even.
After all this was said and 

1046
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,640
done, I am pretty sure I got 
crunked out of my mind and went 

1047
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,400
into the kitchen and cooked 
everybody food. 

1048
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,920
I'm pretty goddamn sure I did. 
I'm pretty sure you did. 

1049
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,640
Oh, I did because I remember I 
cleaned up the mess. 

1050
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,640
Yeah, I, I cleaned up all the 
the Suns and then you saw food 

1051
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,040
in the fridge and then I just. 
Like, you know, we're cooking 

1052
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,760
and. 
Cooking and I dude, it was it 

1053
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,160
was wild if it if it was if if 
someone had like if this was 

1054
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,960
documented, yeah, people would 
think we were nuts. 

1055
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,760
Yes, they would be like, how are
you even in that house after all

1056
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:53,040
that happened like nothing, you 
know, like like nothing there 

1057
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,880
was there was wild. 
We just kept going. 

1058
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,080
You know we've never tried to, 
Johnny. 

1059
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,520
Never. 
Tried to find that spirit again,

1060
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,800
huh? 
You don't go. 

1061
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,200
Looking for spirits? 
Do you I, I I have. 

1062
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,080
I have faced off with that with 
that entity before at the 

1063
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,200
undisclosed location. 
So how did that go? 

1064
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,360
Horribly, actually. 
Horribly. 

1065
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,880
It's it's probably one of the 
worst things that I've ever come

1066
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,800
face to face with. 
So is this so it? 

1067
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Sounds like the spirit is 
winning in a weird way. 

1068
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,800
Yeah, this is like some nemesis 
spirit. 

1069
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,560
Well, in, in, in in a. 
Way it was. 

1070
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,040
And then things changed. 
You know, I got the upper hand. 

1071
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,600
I I realized how to deal with 
everything there at the 

1072
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,760
undisclosed location. 
The only the only entity that 

1073
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,520
truly won at the undisclosed 
location would be Eddie Boy, you

1074
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,520
know, because, yeah, well, he's 
dope, but what? 

1075
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,320
Like, so tell me. 
About Tell me about the Tell me 

1076
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,800
about the undisclosed. 
Tell me about the Tell me about 

1077
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,680
your experience. 
No, no, no. 

1078
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,240
No, but. 
Did you tell but tell the story 

1079
00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:58,960
of this thing in the undisclosed
location? 

1080
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,800
What was the situation? 
This is this is when I, you 

1081
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,920
know, first took over. 
Well, I first moved to the 

1082
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,640
undisclosed location and this is
actually the start of me 

1083
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,840
documenting spirits. 
And one of the maintenance guys 

1084
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,720
was actually filming this. 
And believe it or not, a lot of 

1085
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:23,680
people don't know this, the 
first two weeks of Santa 

1086
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:28,120
Paranormal was actually started 
by one of the maintenance men. 

1087
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,520
I didn't originally start the 
account this dude started. 

1088
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,440
That guy's about to file a 
lawsuit and. 

1089
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,040
For no, no, no. 
He gave me, yeah. 

1090
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,880
No, no, no, He gave, he gave me 
the account. 

1091
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,720
He gave me everything. 
And it was in infancy too. 

1092
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:44,320
It had barely anybody. 
It was like I got it when it had

1093
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:51,880
like 3000 people on it, right. 
And he started filming this, 

1094
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,840
these these children in the 
basement, literally these 

1095
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,520
children in the basement. 
And his wife was like, Yo, I 

1096
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,920
don't want you doing this 
anymore. 

1097
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,760
Me and him were bullshitting 
about it in the in the in the 

1098
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,120
elevator. 
He gave me all the information 

1099
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,920
and I took over and, you know, 
I'm coming across these children

1100
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,960
in the basement. 
And then one day I came across 

1101
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,640
something that was pretending to
be a child. 

1102
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,080
And it was honestly, at the 
time, frightening as fuck. 

1103
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,360
And you believe it was the same 
and you? 

1104
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,240
Believe it was the same Abaddon 
later. 

1105
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,400
Later it would. 
Be revealed. 

1106
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,800
It revealed itself through a 
spirit board as a entity named 

1107
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,920
Bean they call themselves. 
Bean. 

1108
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,920
Bean, like, yeah. 
Like bean, like, you know, like,

1109
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,600
like, like Lima bean, Lima bean,
like kidney, Yeah. 

1110
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,720
Baked beans, you know what I 
mean? 

1111
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,920
Sure. 
We could sit here and name 

1112
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,480
beans, yeah. 
But then. 

1113
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,400
But then later on, through the 
documentation, it was revealed 

1114
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,280
that its name was actually 
Abaddon. 

1115
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,120
And then I'm like, oh, that 
makes fucking sense. 

1116
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,880
I was like, that makes sense. 
So you think it may have found? 

1117
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,640
You if if it was the same one, 
no that this that has to do with

1118
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,920
the. 
Portal that's there at the 

1119
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,720
undisclosed location. 
It's why Edward is together, you

1120
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,120
know what I mean? 
Is as strong as he is, it's why 

1121
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,440
that place is such a vortex of 
madness. 

1122
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,680
It has to do with that portal 
that's there. 

1123
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,960
There's a portal there that that
I. 

1124
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,760
Believe can link up to multiple 
places and and it's it's what 

1125
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,760
Edward was obsessed with. 
You think there's a portal at 

1126
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,880
Mike's old house? 
No, it has nothing to do with. 

1127
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,960
Mike's old house, but it. 
Might there be a portal at the 

1128
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,600
time we found that? 
Portal, remember? 

1129
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:36,720
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1130
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,680
The one under the bridge. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1131
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,480
That was why. 
And all of a sudden you're like.

1132
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,560
Restock Yeah, yeah, it says 
something here. 

1133
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,240
Yeah. 
And it was me. 

1134
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Him. 
And two other. 

1135
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,840
People in my in my old Ford, 
what was it? 

1136
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,960
Escort Wagon? 
Yeah, it was green, right? 

1137
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,640
Escort. 
Green escort wagon first car I 

1138
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,720
ever had and we pull. 
Over and we're under the bridges

1139
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,480
under 95 where where the exit 
comes off and there's this 

1140
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,160
massive hole just sit like from 
the rocks instead of the rocks 

1141
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,120
being there. 
You can't. 

1142
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,480
You can't see it from the road. 
Like you literally have to. 

1143
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,280
Like we had it. 
I was like, everyone stop, pull 

1144
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,400
over. 
There's something going on up 

1145
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,480
there and you couldn't see it 
until we went up there. 

1146
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,880
And then you just see this chasm
just going straight down and I 

1147
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,920
was like a bottomless pit. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1148
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,240
No, it was. 
Wild dude and I'm. 

1149
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,400
Like, yo, something's not right 
with this. 

1150
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,600
Mike, do you think John is some 
sort? 

1151
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:35,480
Of like intuitive you know for 
sure has. 

1152
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,920
Some juice I will. 
Say it like this if something. 

1153
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Negative is in the room, 
whatever it is, I want him there

1154
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:43,920
because. 
Something. 

1155
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,120
Happens where it either he gets 
rid of it somehow or something 

1156
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,880
happens. 
Intent baby. 

1157
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,480
I always say it. 
It's all about and back then you

1158
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,400
had nothing but. 
Confidence and intent, That's 

1159
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,440
why you handled that like Swift.
Yeah, it's all about. 

1160
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,320
Intent in dominance too, you 
know, what do you think? 

1161
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,760
What do you think would have 
happened, John, if you? 

1162
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,640
Showed up like an hour later. 
Oh, I don't even know. 

1163
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,440
I I. 
That I probably got pulled back 

1164
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,480
into the kitchen. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1165
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,040
That I don't know. 
Because I mean that disappeared 

1166
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,120
with the girlfriend. 
Yeah, that's a great question 

1167
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,560
because that's that's. 
Actually a possibility, yeah. 

1168
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,640
Imagine I got distracted. 
Imagine I got held up. 

1169
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,520
Imagine I waited for somebody 
else. 

1170
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,960
It was the start of a battle 
that would come to. 

1171
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:32,080
End later on, yeah, Yeah. 
So that's actually pretty. 

1172
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,360
Freaking wild to think about. 
So, yeah, But no, the this story

1173
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,000
and what happened at the 
undisclosed location have 

1174
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,200
nothing to do with each other. 
I firmly believe that she 

1175
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,400
channeled that entity. 
Yeah. 

1176
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,440
Because she was into some dark 
shit, too. 

1177
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,200
So I firmly believe that she 
tapped into that. 

1178
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,920
Oh yeah. 
And that was able to come 

1179
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,120
through. 
She was alone. 

1180
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,160
Man, that's a. 
Great story, man. 

1181
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,520
Well, Mike, thank you for. 
Sharing that. 

1182
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,160
Oh, absolutely. 
Super fun. 

1183
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,160
Oh guys, we love, we love ghost 
stories. 

1184
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,000
If anybody here is new and 
listening, please go to 

1185
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,040
splinteredspirits.com and that's
a crazy one. 

1186
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Because we want. 
We want those. 

1187
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,040
Stories. 
That's a crazy story when this 

1188
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,080
is a king. 
Saves approved podcast. 

1189
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,480
Definitely go to our website you
can. 

1190
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,760
Upload your and tell us your 
story or ask your questions or 

1191
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,480
as we started out, ask me 
questions on Reddit and be my 

1192
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,480
friend. 
I need some. 

1193
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,160
I need some backup. 
I need some Reddit backup. 

1194
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,160
Reddit's for my adult needs, 
Yeah. 

1195
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,320
Yeah, they're so. 
They're so mean. 

1196
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,360
They're so. 
Mean on Reddit? 

1197
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,360
Oh, people on Reddit or evil. 
They're dark, dude. 

1198
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,680
It's like, it's almost like, 
man. 

1199
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,320
You're just so mean. 
Like Avidon runs set Reddit. 

1200
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,720
Yeah, I. 
Feel like dude, I feel like 

1201
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,440
I've. 
I have now seen Avidon on Reddit

1202
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,960
like they're just, they're just 
saying hurtful things. 

1203
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,800
It's never going to go away. 
Now we conjured it back and 

1204
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,560
that's. 
It they just sit there and 

1205
01:01:58,560 --> 01:01:59,320
troll. 
Man. 

1206
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,320
It's nice, it really is. 
It really is. 

1207
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,440
I got my reasons why I stay off 
Reddit, man. 

1208
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,840
That whole there's people use 
that for a lot of dark shit and 

1209
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,080
I'm just not about yeah, I'm not
getting into all that dark shit.

1210
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,360
I. 
You know, I stay away from it 

1211
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,320
for this, but it's like, you 
know, look, keep promoting. 

1212
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,920
You're trying to promote. 
You're trying. 

1213
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,840
To find like minded people and. 
Spread the word. 

1214
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,480
And it's like, you know, like 
what? 

1215
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,120
I'm sorry, dude, I didn't 
realize your smudge picture is 

1216
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,400
any better than this guy's 
smudge picture. 

1217
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,400
And it's like, what the fuck are
we talking about? 

1218
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,960
It's so Speaking of Speaking of 
pictures. 

1219
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaking of pictures, is it next
week's live? 

1220
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,880
We're doing the. 
Yeah, you need to walk me 

1221
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,240
through those thermals. 
Yeah. 

1222
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,040
You, all of us. 
OK. 

1223
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,000
We'll go through that on next 
week. 

1224
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,400
'S live. 
We're gonna everybody, we're 

1225
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,560
gonna do the. 
First set of thermals from buck 

1226
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,960
out when I first got the thermal
Cam. 

1227
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,800
So we're going to we're going to
analyze them here on splintered 

1228
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,320
spirits, bring that thermal with
you to. 

1229
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,200
Week after for Sleepy Hollow. 
Be on Reddit for anything. 

1230
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,160
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 
Real for real. 

1231
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,080
What did they say? 
Who said what? 

1232
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,160
Wait, let me see. 
Got to be. 

1233
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,960
On thicker skin, you got to have
thicker skin. 

1234
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,720
Yo, yeah, I know, man. 
It's like, that's like anything.

1235
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,040
Social media was social. 
It's just so weird. 

1236
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,760
I'm more. 
Fascinated by just like the, you

1237
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,920
know, the cultural aspect of it.
Hey, those keyboard warriors, 

1238
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,000
man, they're. 
Terrible. 

1239
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,360
Wouldn't it be great if like the
only. 

1240
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,640
Way you're allowed to leave a 
comment is to like one has to be

1241
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,200
a video comment and it has to be
like, you know, and you have to 

1242
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,440
show and show your address or 
your phone number. 

1243
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,640
Nobody would ever do. 
It exactly and nor should they 

1244
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,200
but. 
You know, hope well, not even 

1245
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,840
not even their address. 
Not even if you have to actually

1246
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,880
leave a video and your face has 
to be on it. 

1247
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,480
Nobody would ever do it. 
That's what keyboard. 

1248
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,840
That's the whole point of 
keyboard. 

1249
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,880
It really is the. 
It is an. 

1250
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Existential threat to civility. 
I mean it really is just like it

1251
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,280
just made people think they 
could say whatever they want 

1252
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,880
when they want without thought. 
There's no filter. 

1253
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,360
Well, to be honest, my favorite 
new. 

1254
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Thing to do, and I don't know 
why I never did this sooner, is 

1255
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:13,560
we get a lot of gooners that 
come on the Y TS right And now I

1256
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,680
just straight up your Mama them 
like I incorporate having sex 

1257
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,000
with their mother into 
everything that they say and it 

1258
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,960
is the funniest thing and I love
doing it. 

1259
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,360
I wait for them to come on so I 
can somehow spin what they say 

1260
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,720
and to me isn't it? 
Isn't that the best? 

1261
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Joke that ever gets old. 
So my, my, my kid when my older 

1262
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,480
kid was in middle school, so 
she's 13 when she, when she was 

1263
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,360
13, my son was younger. 
He's like, you know, 8-7 or 

1264
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,840
eight. 
And he'd have to wait with all 

1265
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,040
the 13 year olds, you know, for 
me to pick him up. 

1266
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,960
And the 13 year old boys, 1213 
year old boys would always haze 

1267
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,600
him. 
Like they'd be like, hey, man, 

1268
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,680
how many chicks you bag and all 
this stuff? 

1269
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,240
And he doesn't, he's like, like,
as if they're getting chicks #1 

1270
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,560
and #2 so he's sitting there and
he's sitting there like, you 

1271
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,240
know, just want to say go, dude,
it's simple. 

1272
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,160
And it's really wonderful when 
you have AI said the next kid 

1273
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,440
that says that to you. 
You say this besides your mother

1274
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,480
and and just. 
See what happens. 

1275
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,400
So of course, the next day some 
13 year olds say, hey man, you 

1276
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,560
bag any chicks lately? 
You know, like they're just 

1277
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,200
trying to make him feel 
uncomfortable around all the 

1278
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,600
other boys. 
And he goes besides your mother,

1279
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,280
to which all the all the guys 
around this guy were like, 

1280
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,640
because this little kid said it 
to him. 

1281
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,720
And then it's like he can't do 
anything because what are you 

1282
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,040
going to do? 
He's like, he's not going to, 

1283
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,480
you know, hit a a little kid, 
even though he's 13. 

1284
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,960
I got a 7 year old, especially 
in front of his older sister who

1285
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,480
will like murder him. 
So it's just sort of like he 

1286
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,880
just had to eat it. 
And the the point being, a 

1287
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,240
greater Mama jokes. 
They never get old. 

1288
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,960
They're the best, they're the 
best. 

1289
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,480
They are the best. 
And I am. 

1290
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,200
Fully. 
Incorporating them into it and 

1291
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,640
I, I love every second of it. 
My favorite was always your 

1292
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,000
Mama. 
'S my my always favorite is 

1293
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,120
your. 
Mama's so fat. 

1294
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,640
She fell in love and broke it. 
It's always my favorite 1. 

1295
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:06,360
You know, it's great. 
It's. 

1296
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,200
Great. 
There's always some good ones, 

1297
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:10,400
yeah. 
Always. 

1298
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,640
All righty. 
All right, Mike, thank you again

1299
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,560
for. 
For coming on John it's always 

1300
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,000
fun guys. 
Tuesday new episodes Sleepy 

1301
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,120
Hollow with our special guest 
Sam Baltrusis. 

1302
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:28,240
Go to my bio and my go to the 
link tree in my bio so you can 

1303
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,280
see a link to that book. 
You should read it if you like 

1304
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,320
this shit you're on. 
That's where you can find that 

1305
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,600
book. 
By the way, go there. 

1306
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,960
Be sure to like and subscribe to
this channel, listen to the 

1307
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,240
podcast where we get it. 
We got more to come, dude. 

1308
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,840
After we the next two in line 
guys we've got, I've got a 

1309
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,640
conversation with a professor 
where we talk about nothing but 

1310
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,440
Satan, which is going to be so 
great. 

1311
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:58,200
You guys, if you're in a Satan 
like I am, get ready the devil 

1312
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,480
you think you know. 
And we've got a full blown 

1313
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:09,080
bonafide old wonderful, lovely 
Italian Salem witch that we have

1314
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,840
a conversation with. 
Great. 

1315
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:16,280
Not to mention a live coming up 
with another medium talking 

1316
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:21,840
about relations with ghosts in 
an in a unique way, trying to 

1317
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,680
get a real understanding there, 
which is she actually dated a 

1318
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,040
ghost at one point and she has a
lot to say about where that line

1319
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,400
is and how people should handle 
these situations. 

1320
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,360
So that's going to be 
fascinating. 

1321
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,800
That's going to be. 
Fascinating, right? 

1322
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,320
She's she's wonderful. 
She's wildly clever and very 

1323
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:43,440
interesting. 
I'm excited about that. 

1324
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,920
Yeah. 
It's going to be a good one, 

1325
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,160
guys. 
You got to follow. 

1326
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,880
You don't want to miss it. 
It's going to be fun. 

1327
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,720
And that's it for today. 
I mean, I really don't have 

1328
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,800
anything. 
That's it. 

1329
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,960
Any other you? 
Know points to bring up. 

1330
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,200
But we've had a good time here 
in the podcast. 

1331
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,480
Make sure you guys catch up with
the other episodes. 

1332
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,360
If you haven't seen them yet, 
check them out everywhere 

1333
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:07,400
podcasts are available. 
Everybody, thank you for joining

1334
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:07,600
us.
