Awful. What else did someone say?
What? Was that what?
Dude, Mark this time, Mark this time in the stream.
Dude, something, just something just appeared over here.
John's running a little late today, but for those chiming in,
oh, I see the chat people are coming in.
Hello. Hello.
There we go. Now I can see the chat.
Hello everyone. Welcome.
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So what happened, man? We had a lot of stuff going on
this week, so it's pretty fun. We dropped the new episode with
Mark Marinaccio. He was the executive producer of
Skinwalker Ranch Season 3. Really interesting cat.
And if you watched previous episodes where we had another
EP, Mike Dorsey from Ghost Adventures House calls, you know
where you're talking about what it takes to film these shows
because they get a lot of heat, right?
Everybody on the TV shows, it's always could be accused of being
fake, this, that or other thing. But you know, when you factor in
the medium that it is, that it is, and the people that have to
make it and you hear from the people who have to make it, you
know, they're putting it together in a way that is super
credible. And what's funny about Mike
Dorsey versus Mark Marinaccio is, you know, Mike is its
documentarian, you know, in this really hardcore sort of very
straightforward producer. But Mark sort of grew up in the
paranormal in a little bit of a woo woo kind of setting.
His mother was a psychic, he's always been a believer and it's
really interesting to hear his take, especially when he's
talking about UFOs or whatever the hell they're called now.
Is it? What was it?
UF PS unidentified flying projectile?
I don't know. They they come up with three
letters, 3 new letters constantly it seems.
I don't know what they are, but when you get his perspective on
these things and how he looks at it, I think it's it's
interesting what kind of what kind of information we're
getting, right? So we're talking about a lot of
common themes have been coming up from my perspective that as
somebody new to this whole space, really dived in.
And Karina notes Mike Dorsey produced Ghost Adventures House
calls. Mark Marinaccio was the guy who
produced Skinwalker Ranch and he was on Ghost Hunters.
Yeah. Projectiles.
I don't know what it is, man, Tay.
I don't know. Whatever it is, UFPI don't I
don't get it. I don't get it.
It's it's a UFO. Like, Christ, What what was
wrong with UFO? Why couldn't we just keep UFO,
unidentified flying object. We don't know what it is, so I
don't know what the problem is. I don't know why we got to come
up with new letters. But anyway, one thing.
There's a couple of common themes that I'm noticing from
all the different perspectives that we're talking about,
whether it's a witch or a medium or a producer or a whatever the
hell we're talking to. They talk a lot about energy,
frequency and dimensions. I don't know, man.
I know John's a big believer in interdimensional entities and
and whatnot and all that. Then it's as far as I know about
dimensions. It's just like I know what
everybody else knows from superhero movies.
You know? I haven't really taken a hard
dive in it. What do you guys think?
Why don't we take you to the chat, folks?
What do you all think of the idea of other alternate
dimensions? I'm going to throw it out there
for some questions and some Q&A. Somebody has to believe in this
stuff other than me. Anyone.
What do you got? What do you got for me today,
folks? I don't know how far behind the
lag is on the chat, but I'm curious to know what you think.
Tell me good people, and hopefully, by the way, I know on
YouTube the ads are a little bananas.
Hopefully we fixed that up for you.
It should not happen as frequently.
All right, Karina, you believe in interdimensional entities, so
why did something happen that makes you think of
interdimensional entities? What is this Tatz and Kitty
says? I think there's a lot of things
we can't explain. I think there's a lot of things
we can't explain, and we're not in any position to negate
anyone's experiences. Well, yeah, no shit.
I think that's kind of an obvious thing, Tatz.
I say that with kindness, But, you know, that's kind of a given
on this, on this show, for sure. I still believe we can't be the
only entities in the universe. Yeah.
I mean, for sure when it comes to alien life or that kind of
thing. Yeah.
I mean, it would seem odd if space is infinite, that there's
not an infinite amount of lives, you know?
So that's hard to say what's going on.
What's up, dude? You're very dark.
Yeah I know I got AI Literally just jumped in from my TikTok
live meeting. Give me one second.
Sure. So, yeah, I mean, I think aliens
are, they exist. I think other, we'll put it this
way, I think there's life elsewhere.
Now what we're talking about, though, is this idea.
Absolutely probable. Probability wise it is
impossible that life does not exist outside service.
Yes, I tend to agree on that front now, But the other
question is this idea of let me see, hold on, let me scroll back
up the big the big sauce. Think about this.
Spirits are energy beings. What it let's say are.
They energy beings. No, no, no.
This is something but the big sauce writes.
Think about this. Spirits are energy beings.
They don't have physical ears, do they?
Listen here through vibration frequency.
Well, that's what hearing is. That's what hearing is.
We only hear because sound waves bouncing off whatever.
Vibration and frequency. That's how that's that's how we
hear, you know. Right.
Yeah. Well, that was like Dan Sturgis
said. He had an interesting point.
He's like, I don't use a mic on my record, on my for my EVP
recordings, he says. Because it's like they don't
have vocal cords. So what would the mic pick up
if? If I'm going to get an EVP of
something on a recording, it should be somehow they're
manipulating it to make the sound because they're not.
What? What difference does a mic make?
Which I thought was really sort of clever.
Good dance. Think about it a lot of the
times and and Gary, you experienced this with me on a
taping of the podcast at Buck Out.
You experienced this, I heard a child.
But what translated once you isolated the audio?
Other than the joke you made, what actually translated was a
strange noise. Now that's interesting, but
that's true. That noise is legit.
Guys. If you know anybody who watched
our episode on Buck Out Road and it sounded like it sounded like,
you know, like like that. Like something scratched on a.
Like somebody scratched the mic, but John isn't wearing a mic
ever. So which we we're, we're going
to change one day for quality control.
But right now he's not wearing a mic out there on the road.
But it, but it sounded like someone scratched a mic and he
heard it as a child's voice. But when we played it back and
then I isolated his audio and I jacked up the volume and that's
what it was that turned his head, which is crazy.
And then I made a joke about it for fun on the podcast.
But the the sound was legit. But that sort of noise or
manipulation that was actually recorded on our device.
I don't know, man. I don't know what you know,
Gary, what you did. You woke up.
Did you wake up this morning and like put moisturizer on your
face? Do.
You have moisture. You look like 10.
You look 10 years younger, right?
Now here's the secret dude I just had.
A blast from the past man bro I had.
A good night's sleep. Thank you for that.
It's. The secret?
I had AI appreciate that very much.
But yes, I had a good night's sleep and yes, I shaved,
moisturize. I do all that shit, dude, the 51
you got to do, you got to use it little SPF, the little like
protein, you know, it's like, you know, I'm not using like any
Korean shrimp semen or anything. But it's like, you know, it's,
it's straight up. Yeah.
You know, just the good night. The secret is a good night's
sleep and doing it nothing. Wrong with that Korean pirate
semen. No, dude, they're, they're like,
apparently that's like a thing, you know?
Oh yeah. What's going on with you, man?
And how's it going? So dude, it's you want to know
my luck, my luck. I have everyone thinks I have
great luck. I have the worst luck ever.
So I just, I just, I just got done with my TikTok live meeting
and I'm talking her name is Jillian.
She's a sweetheart. She is awesome, right?
And I'm talking to her and I'm like Jillian, listen, I know
there's only certain things you can tell me and certain things
you can do. I was like, do me a favor, just
take a peek at my account and see if I'm flagged for anything.
And she's like John, why would you be flagged for anything?
She goes before I do that, let me look at your rate of
impressions for your TikTok in general.
And she and then do the look on her face just completely
changed. And I'm like, you don't have to
say anything. The look on your face said it
all. She was like John, I will have
this all fixed for you by Monday.
And I'm like. But we we did end up talking
about a little bit so. If you can't say it, if you
can't say it publicly, no. I.
Can say it, I can say it. I have been, my account has been
flagged for low quality streaming and for selling
products outside, like telling people to go to like like Timu
or you know, which, or like one of those one, one of those
things like that, that so it's, it's a glitch.
It's a glitch in the system. I'm actually out of all the,
that she had a bunch of meetings today.
She's been in tons of meetings with other creators.
I'm not the only one. And it's, it's a, it's a glitch
in the system and they said they're going to have it fixed.
But I said to her, I said, I said, listen, I'm like, I, I
have to say this and I know it's not you.
This always happens to me at the beginning of live fest.
Life fest starts tonight at at midnight.
And I'm like, this is we, we always have an obstacle or two
that other creators don't have. And and then I even said to her,
I was like, I guarantee all these other creators that are
coming to you, are they big creators?
Are they in like the high rankings?
She's like, no, she's like, this is actually happening to a lot
of other smaller creators. You're the first big, big
creator on TikTok that's saying, Hey, I'm experiencing this
issue. So it it's isn't that insane.
And I said to right well. I'm, I'm well, the Timo thing is
obviously because you don't sell shit.
I mean, I wish you sold some shit.
I, I complain about this all the time.
I would love for you to sell. And even either way, even if you
did sell something, you could just direct people to the TikTok
shop because that's where our merch is on our on our own
platform. So but what what is it about low
quality production or streaming? Like what?
What did she say about that in? Terms of production value, it's
being it's being it's almost like I'm streaming from like a
like a, an iPhone like 12 or like an 11 or, or like a a low
quality, you know, like crappy phone, like an A3, you know, on
Galaxy yet or. An A12 did, someone's in the
chat is saying that Netzel got hit with that last night as
well. Yes.
So whatever this, whatever this issue is, it's spreading, it's
running and thank you forever in the chat said that I'm going to.
Feel fluffy? That's a laugh for this and.
You don't know. You don't know, Teal Fluffy
monkey. Teal fluffy Monkey said that.
Oh, I can't see the. I don't have the other no.
No, I'm just saying the name. Then you don't recognize the
name. There's a lot of fluffies out
there, so a. Lot of fluffy monkeys.
There's a lot of fluffy monkeys out there, but yeah, it's just
crazy. So it's like, you know, I got to
push, push forward and push through and, you know, just let
everybody know like to keep doing what they're doing, tap in
that screen sharing the live 'cause it'll, you know, it'll,
it'll, it'll help. We'll, we need it more than
ever, you know, especially with live fest starting tonight.
Sure. It's, it's, it's pretty wild.
It's pretty wild, dude. It's like, it's like.
Is it is it I, I'm I would love all see, like I'm just
interested in all the metrics of this stuff for you.
And it's, you know, the idea of if they don't see a face, like
in a certain amount of time, does that flag it?
If they don't see that, you know, like, what's the AI of it
all? Yeah, no, it's why the the
problem. Is is that, you know, a lot of
walkers like you or talk, you know, like that they don't put
their face on there. Yeah.
So then. The face has the face has
nothing to do with it with with their algorithm.
They actually just upgraded their algorithm and that's why
they're having all these issues. So the, the algorithm is just
like, Nope, Nope, Nope. To some upgrade.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, some upgrade, right.
But they'll, they'll, they're, they're going to get it fixed.
They're going to get it fixed. And I, I actually, the cool
thing is they and, and, and she even admitted that I think they
knew this was going to happen and they planned for it.
Now it's the Top 40 creators for these contests that move on.
So we don't need to get into the top ten.
We need to get into the Top 40 to get that ticket to Las Vegas
to be part of the whole life fest celebration, you know all
that. So and that's awesome and we
don't have to do we don't have to it ends for that in round
two. Round three, it's where they
throw everybody together and they and they're clawing and
they're doing global, but that won't affect our round one and
two. Round 1 and 2 is going to be the
the main rounds for us to do what we have to do so.
Feel good with all that which. Is good.
So even with all these issues and whatnot and you know,
starting this with the what's it called?
Starting this with a handy, capable attitude, you know we
are you. Sorry people are telling me they
can't hear me as well can. That's weird.
I can hear you. Can you hear me just fine?
How about now? Is it better?
Or let me just give it a little. How about now?
Does that sound better? Well, I know John's really loud
because he's getting a very echoist place I have.
I have no furniture, no, nothing in here yet.
So I'm. Yeah.
I'm so tell you know you guys just tell me if you find.
It shall I talk like this instead?
Do a little ASMR, little ASMR action.
Just be What's up ghost lover. What's up ghost?
What's up ghost lover? How about now?
Hopefully this works, guys. So can you hear me better?
Just let me know. Whoever said that somebody wrote
something up here that I'm trying to.
I don't know what it means guys. You know, I just don't know a
lot of the lingo for chats. Last night I was not in a good
mental place. I had a lot of shit going on
that came crashing down at the same time people, and I thought
it was me, dude. People were just like typo ING
in the chat and like it was just all over the place.
And I'm just like, I don't understand what anybody's saying
right now. It's like I literally don't
understand what you're saying. Yeah, they were talking about
this on the chat here, that the sound was a problem last night
for you. How's the sound here now, guys?
Do I sound? Everybody sounds good now.
Everyone's saying I sound good. So I found out about the sound
too. That's the algorithm shaking
people out of the live. That's that.
That was that was TikTok doing that on purpose to us because
I'm supposed to be restricted. I'm not supposed to be having
all these people in in the stream, even though I didn't
have that many people. And that's that was part of the
the algorithm, the AI trying to shake people out.
Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, it was crazy.
Snippy What does GRWM mean? Not you, Siri.
GRWM. Says he looks smooth.
He looks. I'm taking it back to me for a
second. He looks silky smooth today.
Can we have a GRWM from Gary, OH?
Get is it like a get ready with me?
It's a get ready with. Me.
Oh, it's a great man. Oh, I don't know what that is.
Get ready with. Me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, OK, OK, got it, got it.
Get ready with me. Interesting.
That 'd be funny. Well, I, you know, it's like,
hey, maybe that'll be the next thing.
Maybe there's a paranormal sort of get ready with me.
Maybe there's a paranormal makeup artist that I'll have to
copy. Much like what I just did with
our last guest, you know, and I did our cooking bit 'cause our
our guest next. Week, by the way, I got my book
too. Oh, you ordered it.
You got it. I.
Ordered it. I actually ordered that book
right when we were right when you were talking about oh.
Great, I already. Put the order in.
It came in yesterday so. So for those who don't know
what's what we're talking about, we are, we have an interview
coming up next Tuesday. We're dropping this with the
author of To Die for Rosie Grant.
I don't know. Is it backwards when I show it?
Maybe not. But Rosie went around and
Rosie's the only person other than John really, in my opinion,
who's doing something wildly unique at cemeteries, right?
So John got, John did his thing with cleaning headstones and he
broke that thing. And Rosie went around and found
people who engrave recipes on their headstones, right?
And then she wrote a book about it.
She just gathered them up. She went around the country, she
gathered those up, started as a school project for her, made a
book, and now it's a best seller.
I mean, she was been on like she's been doing the rounds from
Kelly Clarkson to Splintered Spirits to promote her book,
which was great. But she was wonderful, like
she's got a lot of, you know, it's just another, as we learn
ataphophile, someone who's into cemeteries and history and
really goes in and finding out about these families and then
making these recipes and bringing them back to the
graves. I mean, she's it's a wonderful
interview. It's a great book, but you get
to watch me make one of them. What's super important, a really
important detail about her work and what she does is she doesn't
have a lot of content to deal with.
Believe it or not, there's not, you know, there isn't 1000
headstones, for example, with recipes on them.
I think she said what? What did she say?
Did she discovered 60? Yeah, she.
Found, I think she said she found No 52 and there's 40 in
the book because 12 of them she's still having difficulty
tracking down like the family or, or some just didn't give
permission to. They didn't want this to be
public or in that respect, you know which, you know, I mean,
it's on, it's on a it's on a fucking headstone, dude.
It's like it's pretty much out there.
Let her, you know, I know people get stuck.
It's. Just crazy what what she's done
with with with the amount of headstone she had to work with
is phenomenal. No, what I thought was crazy
too, because I did this recipe and then I did it and then I
read the story. But the headstone that the
recipe I did was and it's some no bake oatmeal cookie thing.
That woman's not dead. She did her.
She has a pre. She already pre made her
headstone, right and just you know, she's look, here's what
I'm saying. She thinks those cookies are so
damn good that she said, what do you want on your headstone?
You know, Meemaw, when you die, she's like, I want my cookie
recipe and then they made it and it's there now forever.
It's not like she's going to utter death bed go.
You know what? I hate that recipe and then drop
dead. You know what I mean?
It's like she's got to like live in eternity with that.
She made that decision. She made that decision ahead of
time and it's out there in the world, right, That's a little is
that a little? I mean, I don't have, Have you
ever found heads? Do you see headstones when
you're about? I know you don't go to the newer
parts of cemeteries, but do you see headstones of people that
don't have an end date on them? I see them in the old sections.
I see them in the old. Sections.
Well, look, they forget to put the death date.
Yes, yes. So, so here's, so here's what
happens. Here's what two things happened
in that scenario. The first one is obviously it
starts off the same the spice, the the, the spice, Wow.
The the spouse dies, OK, they have a dead stone for both the
husband and wife. It's one stone, OK.
And you know the the most of the time it's the husband.
The husband's there first and then.
We die first. And and then, and then the wife
is in. You see her name, you see the
date she was, the year she was born.
But there is no, there's no death date.
There's no death year. What happens is these people
grow old, they pass away, they end up getting buried, but none
of the family members think to go, oh, hey, we should have the
rest of the date put on her headstone.
And then or they think about it, but you know, it's the last
thing on your mind with life and grieving and everything going on
and it never gets done. And I come, I come across it a
lot actually. I can, I can think off the top
of my head five times just in one cemetery where I've seen
that and that's in the older section, not even the new, like
I don't really walk the new section, but I've been there a
couple times, so. That's crazy.
Yeah. Yeah.
I didn't realize. I did not realize that was a
thing. Yeah, that's a thing.
I understand like you know, you of course, you buy your plots
ahead of time. You know, like you that I that
makes sense, but like to actually make a headstone and
then on that headstone they put their recipes.
I mean this woman and, and it's unfortunate she got some Dick
like me who went out and made it and put it online.
Well, I mean, technically, listen, that's the point.
There is no, there is no other point other than that.
It's for someone to see that headstone and go, hey, I'm going
to make that recipe. Yeah, that's the point.
Now it just so happened that, you know, we do this podcast and
it's the whole thing we're doing, but there are other
people that are going to walk by that and go, wait a minute, take
a picture you. Know or you know?
Take a picture and fuck, that's I just showed my age with that
one, you know? Yeah, right.
But that is still that is. Look dude, I still do this for
phone, you know what I mean? Oh yeah.
Oh, I still do this. Oh yeah.
Oh, 100% right. Dude, did you see the plug?
Oh, oh, we lost you for a quick second for.
The for the for the smartphones. Say that again, we just drop.
You just drop for a second. The plug insurance for the
smartphones that given an actual Rotary phone.
Yes, yes, I've seen those. Hold on one second.
That's funny. I miss the flip phone guys.
I really do. You know what I I think I showed
you once. I still have my old like it's
it's more of a like a little prop piece, but this was my
that's right, This was I I have my old flip phone, which was my
favorite and I still have it. It doesn't work of course, but
did you did? You know that certain.
The Motorola Razor. Look at this baby, look how
thin. I love it.
And then like, 'cause I love the action of this.
I love closing a phone and being done.
There are certain individuals that can afford to actually
still have one of those that work.
Like I believe Eminem is one of them.
He doesn't have a smartphone, he has a flip phone.
I can make that, I can make that work.
It's just, but then it's just impractical because, you know,
my everybody texts and my kids texts and it's like you can't,
you know, how do you if I didn't have kids?
Yeah, if I didn't have kids, I would not have.
There's a great many things I wouldn't do or 100%.
You know, I talked about that. I talked about that with my wife
yesterday. I turned her and I, I straight
up said if we didn't have kids, we'd live with the tower, we'd
live with the tower. I'd.
Live with the tower. If I didn't have kids, you know,
how awesome would that be living up there?
You know, you got to have, I got to be able to text.
I got to be able to do this. I'd have, you know, I'd have to
have the SUV with the six seats, all these things that that, you
know, you've got to have to Chuck people around that, you
know, if you didn't have, you just wouldn't do it.
But I love that phone. Listen.
I'm, I'm the worst when it comes to text messages and all that.
And the reason why is I'm still, I still put my phone down and I
don't pick it up. They'll go long periods of time
where I'll put my phone down and not even look at it.
It's just I, I still live in this.
I'm in this weird in between of not having one, you know, like
that, like back in the day, not having one, you know, only use
the cell phone if you're going out somewhere.
You remember that old mentality like you picked up your Nokia.
You didn't carry your Nokia in your pocket when you were home.
You know you only took it if you were going to the grocery store,
if you were going. To please.
I remember when I had a pager. But patriot say Ding say yeah
dude. I remember having a pager too.
You know what? So, so maybe you're living two
different dimensions speaking, because that's where we started
this conversation was like this idea of dimensions.
John, what? What have you ever seen that
that sort of confirms your belief in other dimensions?
I told this story the other day. It's funny you ask that.
It's fresh in my mind. So when I first started
streaming, our shabba was more of a group event, right?
I would have, I piled the fireplace room with a bunch of
people, OK. And you know, I get, you know,
wasted, right? But one thing I would do, and
every now and then instead of streaming it, I would just want
to hang out with my friends and not be on camera.
So I would take the phone and I'd put it in the abandoned
side. It's like, OK guys, tonight I'm
going to, you know, hang out with my friends and and get
stupid and have a couple drinks. You guys are going to watch the
abandoned side, see if you see anything.
And I used to have ATV in the fireplace room.
And what we would do is fire up the live stream on the TV.
We'd sit back and we'd, you know, we'd, we'd, you know,
party while the live stream was going on.
And one time I went to go check on that.
I went to go check on everybody. And I went into the abandoned
side. They were all in the other in
the fireplace room watching the stream.
I go in for about 3-3 minutes, talk to everybody, you know, and
then come back out. And then I'm like, you know, did
you guys see anything while I was in there talking to
everybody? And they're like, oh, dude, we
thought you went upstairs. You, you didn't go in there.
And I'm like, no, I went in there and I'm like, I definitely
went in there. When the stream was over, I went
back. I looked at the replay and I
wasn't there. I was not there.
It was, it was the weirdest, weirdest thing.
And the only thing I can think of is when I walked into that
room, there was some dimensional shifts happening and they saw a
version of that room with me not in there.
How high were you when that happens?
Not too high. We weren't, we weren't, we
weren't completely shingazed yet.
It was, it was, it was still, it was still early on.
So, oh, plus it didn't matter how high I was because or drunk
because the next day I'm going through the replay and you know,
there's, I'm not in there. And it makes sense.
But there were, but then there were other times when when they
walked in there and they went on to check the stream and people
saw them. In fact, one of the girls went
in there when I told her not to because she was already heavily
intoxicated. And she went in there and got
spooked and ended up leaving. And everybody thought they saw a
creature because her hair was all messed up and it was long in
her face. And everybody thought that they
saw something and they took pictures of it.
And then so the next day, I'm going through all this.
I'm looking at that. And I'm like, wait a minute, I
know who that is. And I had to tell everybody, no,
that was so and so not listening to me and going in there and
then getting freaked out and leaving.
But. Do you think that room?
So you think that room is something?
Oh, the abandoned side. Oh, 100.
Percent. Oh, OK, You all.
So it was. Oh, I see, I see.
Yeah, yeah. Right, see abandoned side.
Oh 100% that room is. Some sort of connect.
You believe in it some. It is definitely some sort of
connection. You know how the spirits speak
about the Nexus? I think that that area is the
closest point to the Nexus, so that area or it corresponds with
it in somehow the, you know, shape or form.
Right. So, right.
All right. Yeah, I don't know if I have.
Very weird stuff. There are some weird stuff the
Yeah, this whole it's just been the way what you miss is I was
saying it's been, there's been several common themes when we
talk about spirits, which is frequency, vibration, energy and
dimensions. That's so sort of no matter who
we talk to, it's always that it's playing in that space.
Back in the day, back in the day, I was one way, and I will
admit this, I was very, very like, Nope, that's not it.
That's not happening. I don't want to hear about it.
That's false, right, right. I've learned over time to
respect other people's views on on those subjects and just like
politely say, hey, listen, that might not be a thing because of,
you know, AB and C. But when it comes to frequency
and vibration, those two things are so prevalent.
No matter who you talk to, a lot of people, no matter if they
believe in the white clouds and the pearly gates and they're a
medium or a psychic or you believe or an investigator that
believes in all that, we'll still talk about frequency and
vibration. I don't like the word energy.
I don't know if you've ever spoken about this.
I don't like the word energy as a person of logic and a person
who loves science. I feel like that's just AI feel
that's just semantics and it's it's.
Semantics. And I can't stand it because
it's because I agree when someone's arguing against the
paranormal and they're like, no, this doesn't exist.
What is this energy you speak of?
Right. It's a it's a true certainly.
Yeah, it's a woo woo word for sure.
I mean, it's it's. 100%. It's a big tool.
I'll tell you some things, though, that are common themes
that I can't stand, and maybe you agree.
Gary 3:00 AM, The Witching hour, I think from a production.
Standpoint, I haven't experienced well I'm not in, I
haven't been in it enough to we haven't talked about that enough
of of its origin and where that's come from a why that is.
We should start. Well, I know why.
I know why and it's. Not well, I know you know why,
but it's a well tell everybody. Why?
Where did 3:00 AM come from?
So the idea and, and everyone who's watching me has heard me
say this a million times back in the day, early humanity.
And we're talking about, I'm not talking about Hogo sapiens
either. I'm talking about our other
primitive ancestors. OK, we accept all kinds here on
Splendid Spirits, but go. So, So what?
What used to happen is when they would get a fire going to stay,
to stay warm, that fire would end up starting to deplete.
So they'd wake up in the middle of the night, they'd go, they'd
use the bathroom, they'd go and they'd get, you know, logs and
branches and brush for the fire to keep it going.
So they wouldn't freeze to death or die or get or get dragged off
by a wild animal in the middle of the night.
Right. So, well, that's actually where
fears and phobias come from, too.
We can talk about that in a minute because they're both
intertwined. But now all this genetic memory
is still distilled in us, just like our pancreas is.
I mean, our, our, our appendix is and all these other little
like shriveled up things in our body that we don't use anymore.
But this, this, this, this memory, this DNA memory is still
in our body. And what happens?
We wake up at 3:00 in the morning, right two in the
morning, 4:00 in the morning, that witching hour, that sweet
spot and it's all just that our our DNA memory remembering that
we need to wake up, check our surroundings, use the bathroom
stove, the flames, right. But but it gets it gets even
crazier when you break down the human perception and condition
of it all, because that's when people have trouble waking up.
So all the sudden you wake up at 3:00 and you can't move and
you're paralyzed and you're half asleep and all the shadows in
your room are are acting up and you know you're in this
delirious state. So all the So then you take
that, you take everything I just mentioned.
You throw in Hollywood, you throw in spiritualism, you throw
in the woo factor of the entire thing.
And what And what happens, what pops out is this 3:00 AM, this
witching hour. Yeah, But the reality of and,
and of course religion too, because the 3:00 AM is supposed
to be a mockery of the Trinity, you know?
Because it's like the threes and all that shit.
Yeah, and all. That shit, it's all you know,
it's. All it is such bogus and such
ABS and, and now it's one of those things where like when I'm
live and I'm talking about it, I'm just like, yeah, the 33 AM
doesn't matter for me. You know, if it's three, it's
it's three every, you know, it hits 3:00 AM in every time zone
at some point. It just doesn't, it doesn't
affect me or my documentation. So that's the IT it's, it is
annoying. I I don't like it.
That's one of the tropes, and I call it the romantic paranormal.
Well, you, well, you know what's funny?
So I'm reading this book and we'll, we'll talk about this.
I'm, I'm halfway through it and we'll get into this in one of
the in in a future episode. But it's called sensing spirits,
right? Paranormal investigation and the
social construction of ghosts, right?
A professor wrote it. His name's Mark Eaton.
I couldn't get him on the podcast because he said that
when he was out promoting the book, it got weird for him and
he got nervous about his family because of all the crazy people
in the genre that we're in. Plus he's very busy teaching.
But he was like, I don't want to.
I just, I'm done with it. Yeah, I don't blame.
But what's really. So it's this idea of when you he
interviewed like 40-5 different ghosts, paranormal and ghost
hunters and paranormal investigators and all that, like
from all over. And, and like I said, I'm not
done with it. So I don't know where the
ultimate thing is, but it, it looking for trends of why
someone becomes a ghost hunter. And you could just immediate,
it's almost, if I were to grab, you know, pull a ghost hunter
out and pull them aside. I, I bet I can start analyzing
their background, right? Like This is why you are doing
this. This is why you think this.
And then when it comes to actual investigation, what's really
fascinating is just sort of the social dining.
So most people who get into it, when they start being curious
about it, they look for they they want to start a team,
right? They start as a team usually.
Yeah. You know, and then but that
team, it depends on, you know, whatever that team was doing
then dictates how they investigate, right.
So, and most of these people think of themselves as
scientists, right, Because they use stuff, they use gear.
So therefore they are it's science based and that's, you
know, and and where did they get the idea of the gear?
84% can get can get traced back to ghost hunters and ghost
adventures. And you know, like, it's so it's
like the TV shows like this Spike, very few of the older
guys, anybody who's older goes back to like these authors or
something that's like beforehand, you know, and then
you get, you know, like guys like Steve Parsons, right, who
were like, I didn't, you know, this is how I investigate
because this I was doing this before the TV show came out and
it you know, it sort of was it. It's so I'm dying to finish it
because that is, you know, the, IT, it, it's almost preordained,
right, of how you look at how you examine, how you study, how
you look at it, and then what you feel that you're seeing.
It's, it's funny, I'm, I'm actually working on a book and I
have a couple of books that are going to end up coming out and
don't get excited everybody. It has nothing to do with my
documentation. The first book that I'm actually
releasing is almost going to be it's well, it's going to be my
perspective as a documenter documenting the paranormal and
dealing with the mental illness of the people that are watching.
It's literally and it's gonna, it's gonna highlight the big
correlation between mental illness and the paranormal.
You got to. You might have to piss a couple.
People off with it at first. But well, well first of all,
before you start talking about mental illness in a book, you
should really sit down with a psychiatrist as well and have
them review it just like a professional and then have this
way you have multiple opinions and you can speak.
Well, hey Gary. Also don't forget I stopped
right before I got my master's. I understand.
I have a, you know right. But that's like.
Saying let's like, say you know, but you can't you still can't
say you're a doctor on an airplane.
You know what? I.
Mean. Of course not.
If you want to be legitimate about it, you want to, you just
want to have, you know, you want to have corroborating.
Oh, of course. Degrees.
But that's a good idea, because it is it's, it's gonna be, it's
gonna. Be insane.
What is missing? Like what is missing in a
person? The other night we had some
random chick came in the live and started talking about and I
don't think she was trolling. I think she was dead serious
because you could tell the difference between someone
that's trolling and someone that's not.
This chick was saying she was a descendant of Christ.
You know she had. Like the Da Vinci Code.
Like The Da Vinci Code, like all this crazy stuff.
And it's like what attracts somebody with mental illness to
the paranormal. Well, also, dude, you also got a
factor in the fact that, you know, you're talking about the
Internet where someone could also just be goofing and
trolling and stuff. So, but yeah, I, I certainly
believe. You chapter because trolling is
a mental illness. When, when you when you are a
professional troll, Yeah. It really is right.
It's a. It's a mental illness.
Hands down, it's a mental illness.
But it's kind of amazing, it's kind of amazing that these all
of these media companies have captured that mental illness and
made it a billion dollar business 'cause they get that
that kind of rage. We've said it 100 times, right?
Enragement equals engagement. Yeah.
That's that's the story of the world, isn't it?
I mean, think about. Of course, of course.
Fast food chains, people that people that have an issue with
overeating and it's not a Body Issue, it's a mind issue.
What are they capitalizing on? They're capitalizing on that
issue, whether it's grief, whether it's anchor, whether
it's whatever that's making somebody eat too much.
What are they capitalizing? God, they're capitalizing on
that. Oh, you're feeling sad.
Go get yourself a number 4. You know, like that's what.
They're doing. Yeah, right.
There you go, dude #4 guys, the number 4 will make you feel real
good, real good, Feel real good. I like what Karina just said.
Karina just wrote. That's why we all get along so
well, Rusty, because we're all a little bit crazy, which is so
true. So that's the other thing too.
There's. And guys, by the way, if, if my
lips don't match or John's, though, that's because when
we're, there's always a little lag and tech stuff and that
could happen. I repost these videos.
I repost this episode tomorrow and there's no lag.
So you know. So there's a big difference
between being a little crazy, being a little crazy, and then
actually being mentally ill. There is a big difference,
right? And the, the paranormal just has
as it's felt, I mean it, it is insane, dude.
There was one chick, I don't think she's on anymore, right?
But she would literally go live, sit in her house, say she's
being plagued by demons. But there was nothing going on,
right? And it got my attention because
someone's like John, you need to help this woman.
She really needs help. So I literally went into her
life and everybody, everybody in the chat is like, Santa's here,
Santa's here, you need to listen to Santa.
So her ma's are actually pinning my comments, my questions as I'm
asking them. And I ask, dude, I asked basic
questions. She flipped out with every
question I asked you. Know we should do.
And then I turned around and I was like, well, I can't help
you, dude. She ended up getting priests,
all these people and nobody could help her because it was
mental illness and. John, you know what we should
do, dude. You know what we should do?
We know what we should do. We should perform a live
exorcism. Dude, could you imagine what
I'll find? I'll find something.
What kind of Actually, we're both atheists.
How's that gonna work? I don't know dude, I just know
it'll be great with you and I rolling in like the power of
Christ. Compels you?
Yeah. God, how's that gonna work for
us? Dude, here's here's what's we're
gonna find something. We'll get people like we'll get
people to write in. No, no, we'll get no, dude,
we're gonna do it. We're gonna get people to write
in. Like who do you know someone
who's possessed and like, we're gonna show up.
Like for real. We'll show up and we'll like,
I'll come in costume, I'll wear the thing and then you'll to
it'll be like you're about to get exercised by splinter
spirits. And it's like, we'll just go in
and we'll have words with that demon and we'll see what's up
with and we're going to do it without you guys.
We're going to do it without any experience, without any
training, without any belief. And we're just going to go and
we're going to exorcise that demon out of this person.
But could you imagine how it would do to be great content,
the two of us there and someone freaking out?
Oh, I agree, I agree. I promise you I'm going to make
that happen in 2026. Dude, that'd be hilarious.
I'm not dressed up like a priest though, you know.
Dude, well, we can get like pre shirts.
You don't like tuxedo T-shirts? Yeah.
Oh, yeah, we'll dress up and I'm
not dressed up. I'm not putting the collar on,
you know. Could you imagine?
I'm not putting the collar on, dude.
That'd be hilarious. Well, we're about to piss off a
lot of people. Oh yeah, dude, we'll make them
all angry. But it's, you know, I certainly
want to witness it and try. Well, because people, you know,
people ask me about that all the time, John, if you don't believe
in God and you're an Equus, what about possession?
So I talk about possession and I say it's 100% real.
A lot of the times though, you have to figure out if it's
mental illness or an actual possession.
And then if it's possession, why all the sudden are people
screaming about God at this and the devil and all this stuff?
My answer to that is look at possession in other cultures.
What happens when somebody gets possessed in another culture?
They're not screaming about God, the devil and Scripture and
speaking in tongues. They're not doing that.
They're still acting all crazy and weird, but it has to do with
their culture. And that's because if there's an
interdimensional entity that's actually possessing A vessel,
the, the human brain can't handle it.
So it's going to spaz out. So if you get a Catholic or a
Protestant or a Lutheran or any sort of Christian base and they
get when they get infected by an interdimensional, what's going
to happen to their brain? It's going to, you know, it
knows what's going on and it's going to be very religious
themed where if you were to take a possessed person from a tribe,
an isolated tribe and show them, it would be completely
different. It would there would be
similarities because they're possessed by an interdimensional
entity, but it wouldn't be the same.
But then something hold on. And then the next question that
gets asked, Gary is, well, how does a priest remove a demon?
Well, that's intent. That's intent.
Dude, I got intent coming out in spades.
Dude, I'll intend that demon out.
That's not saying. We can do this too, 100% and and
so that's it. That'd be a great.
Now here's the thing though. Would it work with somebody
that's possessed by a demon? If we go at them from a non
religious based intent exorcism, would their brain be able to be
strong enough to register what we're doing?
I don't know. OK, we fake it.
What if we just fake it? How are they going to know we're
lying? Do you think they can read our
minds? We would have to.
Well, I do. I do know that some entities can
skim the mind because spirits will say things before I say it.
That's happened to me tons of times on live.
But I don't know. That's a great question.
I guess that would be, I guess, if we actually do this.
This is now turning more into an experiment.
Yeah, 100%. So the whole thing, of course,
it's an experiment. It's an experiment.
I mean, we're going to sit there now, yes, there'll be some
Guinea pig who's like, you know, hopefully they're they're
having, you know, a real. Some sort of possession, that
Guinea pig squeal and. It's like, yeah, and we're going
to sit there and we're going to expel the deed.
We're going to exorcise the demons out of it.
I'm down for that, right? The power of Christ compels you.
And we'll try and then we'll like, we'll have different,
we'll have different bottles filled with different liquids,
right? We'll have actual holy water,
we'll have a placebo, we'll have Gatorade.
And we'll just like, you know, like, right, We'll see, Like
what works the most? What works?
You know, we'll have a rosary, we'll have a satanic, you know,
the Beth, the Bethel, the whatever, the the pentagram.
Yep, Beth Heben or Beth. Whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll have one of those.
We'll see what We'll try all of it.
That works. See if anything burns.
See if anything burns, you know, Yeah.
Why not? Like, I don't give a shit.
Like I was going to say what makes why?
Why can't I be an exorcist? Can't tell it's America.
Well, did I ever tell you about what what my, my, my line of
what I wanted my career to be? Did I ever get into that and
tell you that originally? Originally when I was an
exorcist. Well, no, not an exorcist.
No, no, no. When I was studying to be a
psychologist, I had this whole path in mind.
Everything I was doing was for this number one goal, and that
was to work for the Vatican. You are.
That's the best job. That's the best job you can have
as a psychologist. You work maybe, you know, a week
out of the year, if that they fly you around, you know it.
It's, it's, it's a dream job, right?
And all they want, they want an atheist that's a psychologist to
go in, look at somebody and go, well, I believe it's mental
illness, but I can't pinpoint exactly what it is.
That's the words they're looking for.
You know, they're not looking for an actual diagnosis.
They're looking for, there's something going on here.
I still don't know what it is though, but I believe it is
mental illness. This bitch is crazy here.
This guy is crazy. Sure, yeah, absolutely.
And let me just do. For a living.
I love that idea. I want to just go real quick to
the chat. A couple things that I spotted
that I want to address for some people here, and I want to say 1
Faye Blood, If people were caught making fun of you online,
they're just bullies in their Dicks.
You know, what are you going to do if you got a mentalist?
You know, if you're having seizures, that's a different
thing we're talking about entirely.
And those people shouldn't be friends.
And then Robin, we don't waste tequila ever.
I'm not throwing tequila on any exercise person and waste it.
That's a terrible idea. Let's think let's think, let's
just do it. Some shots of it, but we don't
waste. We don't throw tequila at the at
the possess. That's a waste of tequila.
Terrible idea. Terrible I.
Can't do it. Awful.
What else did someone say? Here, What was that?
What? Dude, mark this time, Mark this
time in the stream. Dude, something, just something
just appeared over here. All right, let's go back and
look at John's camera full frame to see if we see what he just
saw. No, no.
No, Yep, you can't do it. Can't do it.
Yep. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What was that? There seems to be a dip in the
light. You'll see a black flash.
Take another look. Yep, you can't do it.
Can't do it. Yep.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What was that Mark?
This. Time on my side?
Yep, on my side. 30 seconds from this point.
Dude, something just happened, I don't know what.
It was. Yeah, I don't know what it was.
I don't know if anybody in the chat noticed it, but something
popped off. I wouldn't superimpose a big set
of balls. Man, I think hold on, hold on.
I'm ready. Ready.
Ready here? What was something?
Slapped him. I think it was these nuts.
You might even look real quick to see if the the any of the
cats were in here. Something I had a a mass.
I don't know, maybe. Maybe it's just my imagination.
Who knows. Maybe it was a glitch, I don't
know, but I saw something. We all saw something.
Wait, I want to chime in to somebody else.
So Crystal on Insta talking about, you know, I don't know,
it's hard. I don't know what she was
talking about, but she had lost somebody and she was looking for
answers and looking for other people and experiences and it
was, it's hard to find. It's hard to find realistic or
you know, someone to trust, I guess.
Oh, 100% that's what she's saying 100% looking for answers.
People always looking around looking for answers when someone
they lose passes. And remember, half of the people
that are looking for answers, when they do get the answer or
they get a truthful response, they get offended.
They don't like what they're hearing, kind of like when ghost
hunters and investigators don't like the results they get.
Yeah, I know. I know.
They don't like. Well, that's what's, well, then
you get someone like Kathy who does grief counseling for this
very purpose, right? Like because people just have
to, they try and they just want to figure out what happened and
hopefully they can get you through it.
That's why. And, and you know what, some
people find it heartless on my end, but that's the one thing I
don't allow in my chat or in my community is trauma bonding.
I don't. Allow it.
People are obsessed with it dude.
I think, I think trauma bonding is dangerous.
It's just not a smart thing for any sort of mental healing.
It's it's bad. It can get very bad for a lot of
reasons. Yeah, it's crazy.
Well, the the people's obsession with death is always one of
those things. And they always want to really
get into it. Like, you know, if someone
passes that they haven't talked to in 35 years, all of a sudden
they're posting a picture of them, them and that person on
Instagram. And it's like, man, I remember
they were so full of what's like, motherfucker, you didn't
talk to that person for 30 years.
You're not friends, you don't like.
What are you saying? I'm not going to mention any
names, right? I'm not going to mention any
names. There was a, a dude that I and I
went to high school with and he ended up passing away, right?
And everybody made such a big deal about this dude passing
away, you know, gave him Angel wings on Facebook.
You know, the worst, right? The worst.
Meanwhile, meanwhile, this dude was known as a bully, went after
people for no reason. One time I caught him beating
the shit out of his girlfriend and I literally beat the living
shit out of him. Like like it was like it was, it
was, it was bad, right? This dude was not a good dude.
Even his own family before his death wanted really nothing to
do with him. But he dies and then all the
sudden he becomes an Angel. I know and it's I was like you
can't speak. It's like people like you can't
speak I'll of the dead and I'm like, why not?
That's the best time to speak I'll of them.
How about? This Listen, I get it, not
speaking I'll of the dead, I understand that.
But how about let's not bullshit them after they die either,
right? How about let's not glorify
somebody who's dead? But if someone's just like if
someone was right, but if someone was clearly an asshole
when they were alive, like why can't we continue that
conversation while they're dead? Why is it wrong to say, you know
what I mean, like that? And people like you can't be
yelling the dead. I I get that.
It's like they were, you know, they were a peak, you know, a
piece of shit. Why all of a sudden are they
not? No, they're still a piece of
shit. They might be.
Dead. No, they're still a piece of.
Shit, the acts that they did disappear, once they passed
away, they still affected people, you know?
It's terrible people. So it's a reminder.
Yeah, it's nuts. Everybody's a reminder.
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It's just a fun one. Just an odd way, an odd new way
to stay communicating with the dead, right with through
nostalgia, through micro history is another thing that like your
phrase, micro history, another thing we look at, which is
absolutely a, you know, a fun. One well, listen, I'm going to
be honest with you. I haven't seen somebody do
something that unique with with with the cemetery since I
started walking cemeteries. If I do say so myself.
I and I which is true. That's.
What I said to you, Yeah. I think, I think what she does
is is purely unique, you know, and and listen, I can guarantee
you if there were thousands of headstones with recipes written
on them, she would have a million and one people doing it.
Also she. Really was.
She took the time, she did the work, she put.
The work, there's only a couple headstones and she, you know,
went in on it and did it awesomely, you know?
I was telling you that she has a great she has a great video
online about Irish whiskey. The guy who invented Irish
whiskey. Yup, Yup, I saw that and and
what she does. So she finds that she gets a
call, she goes, she finds that the headstone, she makes the
recipe and then she goes to a local bar that celebrates that
and uses that recipe, you know, for Irish whiskey where it
started in San Fran. It's like, you know, and then
she goes back and she has a, you know, has a drink at this at the
gravesite. I mean, it's really A1 these
little, these little mini history films which are quite,
she's quite wonderful. Like she really is very cool.
Yeah. All right, dude.
Well, that's I think that's that's a solid hour.
What do you got going on tonight?
Are you going to be anywhere special or can you tell us or
no? No, it's too.
I'm not going to be Yeah, no, I'm going to be here at the
Breck Estate. It's way too cold.
I was going to go to buck out, but it, it, it, it dropped into
the third, you know, 3029° so. Yeah, it's raining.
It's been raining in LA for like 4 days.
Yeah, that's terrible. Yeah, that's that's that's not
happening for all you know. I'm not, I did it the other
night, last night I went to the cemetery, dude.
And I was just so uncomfortable. And, and the problem is, is that
that affects the spirits, right? The spirits know I'm
uncomfortable. So when you get upset.
Yeah, when I get, when anything, if I'm not in the right head
space, like they just get so it, it's the weird.
And and I think that has to do with I've always spoken about
this, my magnetic field, you know, that energy that people
like this word people like to throw around.
I don't like to say your energy, it's my magnetic field that that
is that causes that. Because as we know, you know,
the brain affects the heart, heart affects the brain, yada
yada yada, all that fun stuff, all that actual scientific
stuff, you know, not, not the healing phoenixes of the world
coming in. That's the best way to start
experiencing that crap. Well, we'll get there.
We'll get there soon. We're getting deeper, farther.
We'll figure it out. Heather, what are you talking
about? When you're talking about the
ghost hunt with with ghost fire? The ghost fire?
I don't know what you mean. Has anyone, Heather was asking,
has anyone won the ghost fire? Ghost Hunt.
Oh, she's talking about finding all the the superimposed
pictures you put in, dude. Oh, I totally forgot I did that.
No one's even sent me it. No one has had.
Thank you for reminding me. Thank you for reminding me.
I superimposed some images of apparitions in the ghost fire.
The. Ghost Fire you totally forgot
episode. No one has commented or sent me
an e-mail or a direct message about seeing them.
I will tell you. There's 10.
No, there's nothing. I thought you put 10 in.
No, I didn't put 10 in. I didn't put 10 in.
I'll tell you, I put 3IN. They are extremely hard to find.
They are. You would have to.
You have to be a forensic. Actually, 11 is pretty easy to
see. One will be fairly easy to see,
but the other two you would have.
You'll have to be a forensic sort of analyst of video to see
it. You have to go frame by frame
and you might spot it. I will tell you that all three
happen at similar. There's a something, there's a
precursor to all three happening.
I'm not going to give that away, but there are three.
All the audio is real, but then those ghosts, the ghosts I put
in there are just for fun, just for funsies to see.
But there are three. But if you can e-mail me and
tell me where where they are, I'll still send you something.
We'll send you something nice if you guys will play.
But yeah, thank you, Heather, for reminding me.
That's great. Yeah.
But absolutely. You know, it's like, that's
right. It's the guys.
Don't forget the Santa Paranormal Dinner Party is less
than a month away now and we are doing an awesome experiment for
everybody that attends to 30 people.
I think there's going to be about 30 people, so it'll work
out just fine. We are going to do 10.
Mass scale s s method. You're right.
So I like how you said s s. I call it Estes like it's testes
without the T. Yeah, Estes testes.
The the Estes method, we're gonna do it.
We're gonna have 30. It's gonna be really interesting
to see what we get, but it'll be absolutely fun to try and do it.
Yeah. We're gonna do that at the
dinner party, so that's gonna be really, really fun.
A whole episode of Splintered Spirits filmed at the dinner
party. It will do that, Yeah.
It'll be a good, it'll be a good.
It'll be a real scientific ghost adventure experience.
Not ghost adventure the show, but for us, our own little
splintered spirits adventure. But yeah, the ghost fire
challenge. Google Ghost Fire.
Too little too late. Don't forget about me again.
Yeah. See if you can find those
ghosts. That's a fun one.
Thank you. I totally forgot, dude, I
totally forgot. I did that shit.
But guys got a big contest for you and then nothing.
Shit. Totally.
Forgot about it, Gary. It's starting to rub off on you.
Gary sharpens the tack and he's
starting to forget. That's starting to forget.
Getting old, getting old. All right, guys.
John, that's it for today. Not with that.
No, no, Listen, I'll look good. You look good today.
I'll stay looking good as long as I can.
But you know, that's funny, guys.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much for today.
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And again, Marc Maronaccio episode dropped this week.
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