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Awful. 
What else did someone say? 

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What? 
Was that what? 

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Dude, Mark this time, Mark this 
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Dude, something, just something 
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John's running a little late 
today, but for those chiming in,

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oh, I see the chat people are 
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Hello. 
Hello. 

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There we go. 
Now I can see the chat. 

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Hello everyone. 
Welcome. 

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Welcome to Splintered Spirits 
live on Thursday. 

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A nice little crowd. 
If you're following us here on 

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YouTube, Facebook or Instagram, 

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welcome. 
We appreciate you coming in. 

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This is splintered spirits, the 
podcast where we try to answer 

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the question, what are spirits? 
I'm Gary John Santa from Santa 

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Paranormal. 
If you're following him right 

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now, he'll be in in a minute. 
You will join us and got a lot 

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of craziness happening. 
If you're following on Santa 

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Paranormal's YouTube page, be 
sure to give a like over on 

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Splendid Spirits on that YouTube
page or on Spotify. 

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Be sure to follow before John 
gets here. 

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So what happened, man? 
We had a lot of stuff going on 

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this week, so it's pretty fun. 
We dropped the new episode with 

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Mark Marinaccio. 
He was the executive producer of

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Skinwalker Ranch Season 3. 
Really interesting cat. 

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And if you watched previous 
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EP, Mike Dorsey from Ghost 
Adventures House calls, you know

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where you're talking about what 
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because they get a lot of heat, 
right? 

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Everybody on the TV shows, it's 
always could be accused of being

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fake, this, that or other thing.
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the medium that it is, that it 
is, and the people that have to 

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make it and you hear from the 
people who have to make it, you 

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know, they're putting it 
together in a way that is super 

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credible. 
And what's funny about Mike 

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Dorsey versus Mark Marinaccio 
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documentarian, you know, in this
really hardcore sort of very 

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straightforward producer. 
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paranormal in a little bit of a 
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His mother was a psychic, he's 
always been a believer and it's 

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really interesting to hear his 
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talking about UFOs or whatever 
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Is it? 
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UF PS unidentified flying 
projectile? 

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I don't know. 
They they come up with three 

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letters, 3 new letters 
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I don't know what they are, but 
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these things and how he looks at
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interesting what kind of what 
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getting, right? 
So we're talking about a lot of 

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common themes have been coming 
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somebody new to this whole 
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And Karina notes Mike Dorsey 
produced Ghost Adventures House 

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calls. 
Mark Marinaccio was the guy who 

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produced Skinwalker Ranch and he
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Yeah. 
Projectiles. 

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I don't know what it is, man, 
Tay. 

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I don't know. 
Whatever it is, UFPI don't I 

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don't get it. 
I don't get it. 

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It's it's a UFO. 
Like, Christ, What what was 

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wrong with UFO? 
Why couldn't we just keep UFO, 

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unidentified flying object. 
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don't know what the problem is. 
I don't know why we got to come 

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up with new letters. 
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There's a couple of common 
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all the different perspectives 
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whether it's a witch or a medium
or a producer or a whatever the 

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hell we're talking to. 
They talk a lot about energy, 

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frequency and dimensions. 
I don't know, man. 

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I know John's a big believer in 
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and whatnot and all that. 
Then it's as far as I know about

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dimensions. 
It's just like I know what 

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everybody else knows from 
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You know? 
I haven't really taken a hard 

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dive in it. 
What do you guys think? 

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Why don't we take you to the 
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What do you all think of the 
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dimensions? 
I'm going to throw it out there 

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for some questions and some Q&A.
Somebody has to believe in this 

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stuff other than me. 
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What do you got? 
What do you got for me today, 

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folks? 
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lag is on the chat, but I'm 
curious to know what you think. 

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Tell me good people, and 
hopefully, by the way, I know on

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YouTube the ads are a little 
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Hopefully we fixed that up for 
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It should not happen as 
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All right, Karina, you believe 
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why did something happen that 
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interdimensional entities? 
What is this Tatz and Kitty 

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says? 
I think there's a lot of things 

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we can't explain. 
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we can't explain, and we're not 
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anyone's experiences. 
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I think that's kind of an 
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I say that with kindness, But, 
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on this, on this show, for sure.
I still believe we can't be the 

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only entities in the universe. 
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I mean, for sure when it comes 
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I mean, it would seem odd if 
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not an infinite amount of lives,
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So that's hard to say what's 
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What's up, dude? 
You're very dark. 

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Yeah I know I got AI Literally 
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live meeting. 
Give me one second. 

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Sure. 
So, yeah, I mean, I think aliens

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are, they exist. 
I think other, we'll put it this

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way, I think there's life 
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Now what we're talking about, 
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Absolutely probable. 
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impossible that life does not 
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Yes, I tend to agree on that 
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question is this idea of let me 
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up the big the big sauce. 
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Spirits are energy beings. 
What it let's say are. 

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They energy beings. 
No, no, no. 

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This is something but the big 
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Think about this. 
Spirits are energy beings. 

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They don't have physical ears, 
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Listen here through vibration 
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Well, that's what hearing is. 
That's what hearing is. 

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We only hear because sound waves
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Vibration and frequency. 
That's how that's that's how we 

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hear, you know. 
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said. 
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He's like, I don't use a mic on 
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recordings, he says. 
Because it's like they don't 

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have vocal cords. 
So what would the mic pick up 

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if? 
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something on a recording, it 
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manipulating it to make the 
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What? 
What difference does a mic make?

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Which I thought was really sort 
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Good dance. 
Think about it a lot of the 

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times and and Gary, you 
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taping of the podcast at Buck 
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You experienced this, I heard a 
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But what translated once you 
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Other than the joke you made, 
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strange noise. 
Now that's interesting, but 

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that's true. 
That noise is legit. 

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Guys. 
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our episode on Buck Out Road and
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you know, like like that. 
Like something scratched on a. 

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Like somebody scratched the mic,
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ever. 
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to change one day for quality 
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But right now he's not wearing a
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But it, but it sounded like 
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heard it as a child's voice. 
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then I isolated his audio and I 
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what it was that turned his 
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And then I made a joke about it 
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But the the sound was legit. 
But that sort of noise or 

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manipulation that was actually 
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I don't know, man. 
I don't know what you know, 

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Gary, what you did. 
You woke up. 

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Did you wake up this morning and
like put moisturizer on your 

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face? 
Do. 

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You have moisture. 
You look like 10. 

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You look 10 years younger, 
right? 

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Now here's the secret dude I 
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A blast from the past man bro I 
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A good night's sleep. 
Thank you for that. 

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It's. 
The secret? 

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I had AI appreciate that very 
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But yes, I had a good night's 
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moisturize. 
I do all that shit, dude, the 51

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you got to do, you got to use it
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protein, you know, it's like, 
you know, I'm not using like any

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Korean shrimp semen or anything.
But it's like, you know, it's, 

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it's straight up. 
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You know, just the good night. 
The secret is a good night's 

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sleep and doing it nothing. 
Wrong with that Korean pirate 

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semen. 
No, dude, they're, they're like,

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apparently that's like a thing, 
you know? 

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Oh yeah. 
What's going on with you, man? 

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And how's it going? 
So dude, it's you want to know 

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my luck, my luck. 
I have everyone thinks I have 

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great luck. 
I have the worst luck ever. 

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So I just, I just, I just got 
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and I'm talking her name is 
Jillian. 

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She's a sweetheart. 
She is awesome, right? 

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And I'm talking to her and I'm 
like Jillian, listen, I know 

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there's only certain things you 
can tell me and certain things 

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you can do. 
I was like, do me a favor, just 

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take a peek at my account and 
see if I'm flagged for anything.

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And she's like John, why would 
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She goes before I do that, let 
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impressions for your TikTok in 
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And she and then do the look on 
her face just completely 

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changed. 
And I'm like, you don't have to 

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say anything. 
The look on your face said it 

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all. 
She was like John, I will have 

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this all fixed for you by 
Monday. 

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And I'm like. 
But we we did end up talking 

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about a little bit so. 
If you can't say it, if you 

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can't say it publicly, no. 
I. 

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Can say it, I can say it. 
I have been, my account has been

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flagged for low quality 
streaming and for selling 

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products outside, like telling 
people to go to like like Timu 

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or you know, which, or like one 
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things like that, that so it's, 
it's a glitch. 

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It's a glitch in the system. 
I'm actually out of all the, 

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that she had a bunch of meetings
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She's been in tons of meetings 
with other creators. 

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I'm not the only one. 
And it's, it's a, it's a glitch 

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in the system and they said 
they're going to have it fixed. 

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But I said to her, I said, I 
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have to say this and I know it's
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This always happens to me at the
beginning of live fest. 

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Life fest starts tonight at at 
midnight. 

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And I'm like, this is we, we 
always have an obstacle or two 

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that other creators don't have. 
And and then I even said to her,

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I was like, I guarantee all 
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coming to you, are they big 
creators? 

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Are they in like the high 
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She's like, no, she's like, this
is actually happening to a lot 

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of other smaller creators. 
You're the first big, big 

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creator on TikTok that's saying,
Hey, I'm experiencing this 

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issue. 
So it it's isn't that insane. 

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And I said to right well. 
I'm, I'm well, the Timo thing is

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obviously because you don't sell
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I mean, I wish you sold some 
shit. 

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I, I complain about this all the
time. 

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I would love for you to sell. 
And even either way, even if you

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did sell something, you could 
just direct people to the TikTok

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shop because that's where our 
merch is on our on our own 

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platform. 
So but what what is it about low

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quality production or streaming?
Like what? 

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What did she say about that in? 
Terms of production value, it's 

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being it's being it's almost 
like I'm streaming from like a 

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like a, an iPhone like 12 or 
like an 11 or, or like a a low 

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quality, you know, like crappy 
phone, like an A3, you know, on 

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Galaxy yet or. 
An A12 did, someone's in the 

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chat is saying that Netzel got 
hit with that last night as 

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well. 
Yes. 

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So whatever this, whatever this 
issue is, it's spreading, it's 

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running and thank you forever in
the chat said that I'm going to.

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Feel fluffy? 
That's a laugh for this and. 

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You don't know. 
You don't know, Teal Fluffy 

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monkey. 
Teal fluffy Monkey said that. 

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Oh, I can't see the. 
I don't have the other no. 

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No, I'm just saying the name. 
Then you don't recognize the 

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name. 
There's a lot of fluffies out 

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there, so a. 
Lot of fluffy monkeys. 

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There's a lot of fluffy monkeys 
out there, but yeah, it's just 

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crazy. 
So it's like, you know, I got to

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push, push forward and push 
through and, you know, just let 

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everybody know like to keep 
doing what they're doing, tap in

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that screen sharing the live 
'cause it'll, you know, it'll, 

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it'll, it'll help. 
We'll, we need it more than 

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ever, you know, especially with 
live fest starting tonight. 

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Sure. 
It's, it's, it's pretty wild. 

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It's pretty wild, dude. 
It's like, it's like. 

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Is it is it I, I'm I would love 
all see, like I'm just 

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interested in all the metrics of
this stuff for you. 

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And it's, you know, the idea of 
if they don't see a face, like 

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in a certain amount of time, 
does that flag it? 

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If they don't see that, you 
know, like, what's the AI of it 

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all? 
Yeah, no, it's why the the 

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problem. 
Is is that, you know, a lot of 

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walkers like you or talk, you 
know, like that they don't put 

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their face on there. 
Yeah. 

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So then. 
The face has the face has 

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nothing to do with it with with 
their algorithm. 

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They actually just upgraded 
their algorithm and that's why 

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they're having all these issues.
So the, the algorithm is just 

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like, Nope, Nope, Nope. 
To some upgrade. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, some upgrade, 
right. 

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But they'll, they'll, they're, 
they're going to get it fixed. 

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They're going to get it fixed. 
And I, I actually, the cool 

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thing is they and, and, and she 
even admitted that I think they 

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knew this was going to happen 
and they planned for it. 

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Now it's the Top 40 creators for
these contests that move on. 

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So we don't need to get into the
top ten. 

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We need to get into the Top 40 
to get that ticket to Las Vegas 

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to be part of the whole life 
fest celebration, you know all 

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that. 
So and that's awesome and we 

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don't have to do we don't have 
to it ends for that in round 

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two. 
Round three, it's where they 

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throw everybody together and 
they and they're clawing and 

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they're doing global, but that 
won't affect our round one and 

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two. 
Round 1 and 2 is going to be the

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the main rounds for us to do 
what we have to do so. 

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Feel good with all that which. 
Is good. 

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So even with all these issues 
and whatnot and you know, 

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starting this with the what's it
called? 

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Starting this with a handy, 
capable attitude, you know we 

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are you. 
Sorry people are telling me they

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can't hear me as well can. 
That's weird. 

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I can hear you. 
Can you hear me just fine? 

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How about now? 
Is it better? 

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Or let me just give it a little.
How about now? 

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Does that sound better? 
Well, I know John's really loud 

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because he's getting a very 
echoist place I have. 

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I have no furniture, no, nothing
in here yet. 

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So I'm. 
Yeah. 

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I'm so tell you know you guys 
just tell me if you find. 

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It shall I talk like this 
instead? 

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Do a little ASMR, little ASMR 
action. 

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Just be What's up ghost lover. 
What's up ghost? 

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What's up ghost lover? 
How about now? 

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Hopefully this works, guys. 
So can you hear me better? 

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Just let me know. 
Whoever said that somebody wrote

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something up here that I'm 
trying to. 

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I don't know what it means guys.
You know, I just don't know a 

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lot of the lingo for chats. 
Last night I was not in a good 

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mental place. 
I had a lot of shit going on 

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that came crashing down at the 
same time people, and I thought 

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it was me, dude. 
People were just like typo ING 

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in the chat and like it was just
all over the place. 

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And I'm just like, I don't 
understand what anybody's saying

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right now. 
It's like I literally don't 

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understand what you're saying. 
Yeah, they were talking about 

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this on the chat here, that the 
sound was a problem last night 

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for you. 
How's the sound here now, guys? 

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Do I sound? 
Everybody sounds good now. 

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Everyone's saying I sound good. 
So I found out about the sound 

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too. 
That's the algorithm shaking 

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people out of the live. 
That's that. 

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That was that was TikTok doing 
that on purpose to us because 

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I'm supposed to be restricted. 
I'm not supposed to be having 

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all these people in in the 
stream, even though I didn't 

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have that many people. 
And that's that was part of the 

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the algorithm, the AI trying to 
shake people out. 

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Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, it 
was crazy. 

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Snippy What does GRWM mean? 
Not you, Siri. 

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GRWM. 
Says he looks smooth. 

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He looks. 
I'm taking it back to me for a 

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second. 
He looks silky smooth today. 

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Can we have a GRWM from Gary, 
OH? 

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Get is it like a get ready with 
me? 

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It's a get ready with. 
Me. 

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Oh, it's a great man. 
Oh, I don't know what that is. 

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Get ready with. 
Me. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, OK, OK, got it, got it. 

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Get ready with me. 
Interesting. 

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That 'd be funny. 
Well, I, you know, it's like, 

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hey, maybe that'll be the next 
thing. 

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Maybe there's a paranormal sort 
of get ready with me. 

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Maybe there's a paranormal 
makeup artist that I'll have to 

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copy. 
Much like what I just did with 

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our last guest, you know, and I 
did our cooking bit 'cause our 

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our guest next. 
Week, by the way, I got my book 

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too. 
Oh, you ordered it. 

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You got it. 
I. 

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Ordered it. 
I actually ordered that book 

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right when we were right when 
you were talking about oh. 

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Great, I already. 
Put the order in. 

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It came in yesterday so. 
So for those who don't know 

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what's what we're talking about,
we are, we have an interview 

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coming up next Tuesday. 
We're dropping this with the 

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author of To Die for Rosie 
Grant. 

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I don't know. 
Is it backwards when I show it? 

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Maybe not. 
But Rosie went around and 

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Rosie's the only person other 
than John really, in my opinion,

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who's doing something wildly 
unique at cemeteries, right? 

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So John got, John did his thing 
with cleaning headstones and he 

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broke that thing. 
And Rosie went around and found 

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people who engrave recipes on 
their headstones, right? 

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And then she wrote a book about 
it. 

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She just gathered them up. 
She went around the country, she

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gathered those up, started as a 
school project for her, made a 

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book, and now it's a best 
seller. 

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I mean, she was been on like 
she's been doing the rounds from

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Kelly Clarkson to Splintered 
Spirits to promote her book, 

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which was great. 
But she was wonderful, like 

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she's got a lot of, you know, 
it's just another, as we learn 

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ataphophile, someone who's into 
cemeteries and history and 

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really goes in and finding out 
about these families and then 

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making these recipes and 
bringing them back to the 

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graves. 
I mean, she's it's a wonderful 

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interview. 
It's a great book, but you get 

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to watch me make one of them. 
What's super important, a really

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important detail about her work 
and what she does is she doesn't

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have a lot of content to deal 
with. 

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Believe it or not, there's not, 
you know, there isn't 1000 

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headstones, for example, with 
recipes on them. 

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I think she said what? 
What did she say? 

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Did she discovered 60? 
Yeah, she. 

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Found, I think she said she 
found No 52 and there's 40 in 

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the book because 12 of them 
she's still having difficulty 

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tracking down like the family 
or, or some just didn't give 

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permission to. 
They didn't want this to be 

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public or in that respect, you 
know which, you know, I mean, 

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it's on, it's on a it's on a 
fucking headstone, dude. 

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It's like it's pretty much out 
there. 

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Let her, you know, I know people
get stuck. 

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It's. 
Just crazy what what she's done 

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with with with the amount of 
headstone she had to work with 

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is phenomenal. 
No, what I thought was crazy 

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too, because I did this recipe 
and then I did it and then I 

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read the story. 
But the headstone that the 

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recipe I did was and it's some 
no bake oatmeal cookie thing. 

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That woman's not dead. 
She did her. 

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She has a pre. 
She already pre made her 

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headstone, right and just you 
know, she's look, here's what 

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I'm saying. 
She thinks those cookies are so 

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damn good that she said, what do
you want on your headstone? 

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You know, Meemaw, when you die, 
she's like, I want my cookie 

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recipe and then they made it and
it's there now forever. 

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It's not like she's going to 
utter death bed go. 

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You know what? 
I hate that recipe and then drop

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dead. 
You know what I mean? 

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It's like she's got to like live
in eternity with that. 

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She made that decision. 
She made that decision ahead of 

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time and it's out there in the 
world, right, That's a little is

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that a little? 
I mean, I don't have, Have you 

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ever found heads? 
Do you see headstones when 

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you're about? 
I know you don't go to the newer

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parts of cemeteries, but do you 
see headstones of people that 

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don't have an end date on them? 
I see them in the old sections. 

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I see them in the old. 
Sections. 

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Well, look, they forget to put 
the death date. 

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Yes, yes. 
So, so here's, so here's what 

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happens. 
Here's what two things happened 

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in that scenario. 
The first one is obviously it 

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starts off the same the spice, 
the the, the spice, Wow. 

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The the spouse dies, OK, they 
have a dead stone for both the 

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husband and wife. 
It's one stone, OK. 

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And you know the the most of the
time it's the husband. 

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The husband's there first and 
then. 

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We die first. 
And and then, and then the wife 

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is in. 
You see her name, you see the 

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date she was, the year she was 
born. 

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But there is no, there's no 
death date. 

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There's no death year. 
What happens is these people 

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grow old, they pass away, they 
end up getting buried, but none 

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of the family members think to 
go, oh, hey, we should have the 

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rest of the date put on her 
headstone. 

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And then or they think about it,
but you know, it's the last 

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thing on your mind with life and
grieving and everything going on

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and it never gets done. 
And I come, I come across it a 

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lot actually. 
I can, I can think off the top 

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of my head five times just in 
one cemetery where I've seen 

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that and that's in the older 
section, not even the new, like 

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I don't really walk the new 
section, but I've been there a 

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couple times, so. 
That's crazy. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I didn't realize. 
I did not realize that was a 

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thing. 
Yeah, that's a thing. 

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I understand like you know, you 
of course, you buy your plots 

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ahead of time. 
You know, like you that I that 

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makes sense, but like to 
actually make a headstone and 

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then on that headstone they put 
their recipes. 

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I mean this woman and, and it's 
unfortunate she got some Dick 

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00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040
like me who went out and made it
and put it online. 

451
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,480
Well, I mean, technically, 
listen, that's the point. 

452
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,400
There is no, there is no other 
point other than that. 

453
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,840
It's for someone to see that 
headstone and go, hey, I'm going

454
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,120
to make that recipe. 
Yeah, that's the point. 

455
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,080
Now it just so happened that, 
you know, we do this podcast and

456
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,640
it's the whole thing we're 
doing, but there are other 

457
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,800
people that are going to walk by
that and go, wait a minute, take

458
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,360
a picture you. 
Know or you know? 

459
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,600
Take a picture and fuck, that's 
I just showed my age with that 

460
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,520
one, you know? 
Yeah, right. 

461
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,680
But that is still that is. 
Look dude, I still do this for 

462
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,560
phone, you know what I mean? 
Oh yeah. 

463
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,080
Oh, I still do this. 
Oh yeah. 

464
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:53,920
Oh, 100% right. 
Dude, did you see the plug? 

465
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,640
Oh, oh, we lost you for a quick 
second for. 

466
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,320
The for the for the smartphones.
Say that again, we just drop. 

467
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:05,000
You just drop for a second. 
The plug insurance for the 

468
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,520
smartphones that given an actual
Rotary phone. 

469
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,480
Yes, yes, I've seen those. 
Hold on one second. 

470
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,000
That's funny. 
I miss the flip phone guys. 

471
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,680
I really do. 
You know what I I think I showed

472
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,240
you once. 
I still have my old like it's 

473
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,360
it's more of a like a little 
prop piece, but this was my 

474
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,480
that's right, This was I I have 
my old flip phone, which was my 

475
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,320
favorite and I still have it. 
It doesn't work of course, but 

476
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,840
did you did? 
You know that certain. 

477
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,640
The Motorola Razor. 
Look at this baby, look how 

478
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,840
thin. 
I love it. 

479
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840
And then like, 'cause I love the
action of this. 

480
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,120
I love closing a phone and being
done. 

481
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,000
There are certain individuals 
that can afford to actually 

482
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,800
still have one of those that 
work. 

483
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,000
Like I believe Eminem is one of 
them. 

484
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,440
He doesn't have a smartphone, he
has a flip phone. 

485
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,840
I can make that, I can make that
work. 

486
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,280
It's just, but then it's just 
impractical because, you know, 

487
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,600
my everybody texts and my kids 
texts and it's like you can't, 

488
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,200
you know, how do you if I didn't
have kids? 

489
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,040
Yeah, if I didn't have kids, I 
would not have. 

490
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,720
There's a great many things I 
wouldn't do or 100%. 

491
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,360
You know, I talked about that. 
I talked about that with my wife

492
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,520
yesterday. 
I turned her and I, I straight 

493
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,680
up said if we didn't have kids, 
we'd live with the tower, we'd 

494
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,440
live with the tower. 
I'd. 

495
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,400
Live with the tower. 
If I didn't have kids, you know,

496
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,000
how awesome would that be living
up there? 

497
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,440
You know, you got to have, I got
to be able to text. 

498
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,360
I got to be able to do this. 
I'd have, you know, I'd have to 

499
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:39,640
have the SUV with the six seats,
all these things that that, you 

500
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,840
know, you've got to have to 
Chuck people around that, you 

501
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,400
know, if you didn't have, you 
just wouldn't do it. 

502
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,280
But I love that phone. 
Listen. 

503
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,600
I'm, I'm the worst when it comes
to text messages and all that. 

504
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,400
And the reason why is I'm still,
I still put my phone down and I 

505
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400
don't pick it up. 
They'll go long periods of time 

506
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,560
where I'll put my phone down and
not even look at it. 

507
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,040
It's just I, I still live in 
this. 

508
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,600
I'm in this weird in between of 
not having one, you know, like 

509
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,000
that, like back in the day, not 
having one, you know, only use 

510
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,240
the cell phone if you're going 
out somewhere. 

511
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,320
You remember that old mentality 
like you picked up your Nokia. 

512
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480
You didn't carry your Nokia in 
your pocket when you were home. 

513
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,640
You know you only took it if you
were going to the grocery store,

514
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,560
if you were going. 
To please. 

515
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,360
I remember when I had a pager. 
But patriot say Ding say yeah 

516
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440
dude. 
I remember having a pager too. 

517
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,440
You know what? 
So, so maybe you're living two 

518
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,360
different dimensions speaking, 
because that's where we started 

519
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,560
this conversation was like this 
idea of dimensions. 

520
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,600
John, what? 
What have you ever seen that 

521
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,520
that sort of confirms your 
belief in other dimensions? 

522
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,440
I told this story the other day.
It's funny you ask that. 

523
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,000
It's fresh in my mind. 
So when I first started 

524
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,040
streaming, our shabba was more 
of a group event, right? 

525
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,040
I would have, I piled the 
fireplace room with a bunch of 

526
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,160
people, OK. 
And you know, I get, you know, 

527
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,480
wasted, right? 
But one thing I would do, and 

528
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,000
every now and then instead of 
streaming it, I would just want 

529
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,560
to hang out with my friends and 
not be on camera. 

530
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,360
So I would take the phone and 
I'd put it in the abandoned 

531
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,360
side. 
It's like, OK guys, tonight I'm 

532
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,400
going to, you know, hang out 
with my friends and and get 

533
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,120
stupid and have a couple drinks.
You guys are going to watch the 

534
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:31,920
abandoned side, see if you see 
anything. 

535
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,080
And I used to have ATV in the 
fireplace room. 

536
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,760
And what we would do is fire up 
the live stream on the TV. 

537
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,240
We'd sit back and we'd, you 
know, we'd, we'd, you know, 

538
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,560
party while the live stream was 
going on. 

539
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,840
And one time I went to go check 
on that. 

540
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,640
I went to go check on everybody.
And I went into the abandoned 

541
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680
side. 
They were all in the other in 

542
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,640
the fireplace room watching the 
stream. 

543
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,680
I go in for about 3-3 minutes, 
talk to everybody, you know, and

544
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,160
then come back out. 
And then I'm like, you know, did

545
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,960
you guys see anything while I 
was in there talking to 

546
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,760
everybody? 
And they're like, oh, dude, we 

547
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,000
thought you went upstairs. 
You, you didn't go in there. 

548
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,440
And I'm like, no, I went in 
there and I'm like, I definitely

549
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600
went in there. 
When the stream was over, I went

550
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,400
back. 
I looked at the replay and I 

551
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,720
wasn't there. 
I was not there. 

552
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,200
It was, it was the weirdest, 
weirdest thing. 

553
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,040
And the only thing I can think 
of is when I walked into that 

554
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,760
room, there was some dimensional
shifts happening and they saw a 

555
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,880
version of that room with me not
in there. 

556
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,520
How high were you when that 
happens? 

557
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Not too high. 
We weren't, we weren't, we 

558
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080
weren't completely shingazed 
yet. 

559
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,760
It was, it was, it was still, it
was still early on. 

560
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,000
So, oh, plus it didn't matter 
how high I was because or drunk 

561
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,000
because the next day I'm going 
through the replay and you know,

562
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,120
there's, I'm not in there. 
And it makes sense. 

563
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,120
But there were, but then there 
were other times when when they 

564
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,640
walked in there and they went on
to check the stream and people 

565
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,040
saw them. 
In fact, one of the girls went 

566
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,560
in there when I told her not to 
because she was already heavily 

567
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,960
intoxicated. 
And she went in there and got 

568
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,000
spooked and ended up leaving. 
And everybody thought they saw a

569
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600
creature because her hair was 
all messed up and it was long in

570
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,560
her face. 
And everybody thought that they 

571
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,720
saw something and they took 
pictures of it. 

572
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,080
And then so the next day, I'm 
going through all this. 

573
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,880
I'm looking at that. 
And I'm like, wait a minute, I 

574
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,720
know who that is. 
And I had to tell everybody, no,

575
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,080
that was so and so not listening
to me and going in there and 

576
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,440
then getting freaked out and 
leaving. 

577
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,200
But. 
Do you think that room? 

578
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,840
So you think that room is 
something? 

579
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,600
Oh, the abandoned side. 
Oh, 100. 

580
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,360
Percent. 
Oh, OK, You all. 

581
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,680
So it was. 
Oh, I see, I see. 

582
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,840
Yeah, yeah. 
Right, see abandoned side. 

583
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,440
Oh 100% that room is. 
Some sort of connect. 

584
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,400
You believe in it some. 
It is definitely some sort of 

585
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480
connection. 
You know how the spirits speak 

586
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,000
about the Nexus? 
I think that that area is the 

587
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,480
closest point to the Nexus, so 
that area or it corresponds with

588
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080
it in somehow the, you know, 
shape or form. 

589
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Right. 
So, right. 

590
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
All right. 
Yeah, I don't know if I have. 

591
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Very weird stuff. 
There are some weird stuff the 

592
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560
Yeah, this whole it's just been 
the way what you miss is I was 

593
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,440
saying it's been, there's been 
several common themes when we 

594
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,320
talk about spirits, which is 
frequency, vibration, energy and

595
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,760
dimensions. 
That's so sort of no matter who 

596
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,880
we talk to, it's always that 
it's playing in that space. 

597
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,640
Back in the day, back in the 
day, I was one way, and I will 

598
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,720
admit this, I was very, very 
like, Nope, that's not it. 

599
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,880
That's not happening. 
I don't want to hear about it. 

600
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,520
That's false, right, right. 
I've learned over time to 

601
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,600
respect other people's views on 
on those subjects and just like 

602
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,920
politely say, hey, listen, that 
might not be a thing because of,

603
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,640
you know, AB and C. 
But when it comes to frequency 

604
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,320
and vibration, those two things 
are so prevalent. 

605
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,600
No matter who you talk to, a lot
of people, no matter if they 

606
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,560
believe in the white clouds and 
the pearly gates and they're a 

607
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,760
medium or a psychic or you 
believe or an investigator that 

608
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,360
believes in all that, we'll 
still talk about frequency and 

609
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,320
vibration. 
I don't like the word energy. 

610
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,120
I don't know if you've ever 
spoken about this. 

611
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,000
I don't like the word energy as 
a person of logic and a person 

612
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,360
who loves science. 
I feel like that's just AI feel 

613
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,400
that's just semantics and it's 
it's. 

614
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Semantics. 
And I can't stand it because 

615
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,080
it's because I agree when 
someone's arguing against the 

616
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,200
paranormal and they're like, no,
this doesn't exist. 

617
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,800
What is this energy you speak 
of? 

618
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,320
Right. 
It's a it's a true certainly. 

619
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Yeah, it's a woo woo word for 
sure. 

620
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
I mean, it's it's. 100%. 
It's a big tool. 

621
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,080
I'll tell you some things, 
though, that are common themes 

622
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,680
that I can't stand, and maybe 
you agree. 

623
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Gary 3:00 AM, The Witching hour,
I think from a production. 

624
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,680
Standpoint, I haven't 
experienced well I'm not in, I 

625
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,040
haven't been in it enough to we 
haven't talked about that enough

626
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,800
of of its origin and where 
that's come from a why that is. 

627
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,280
We should start. 
Well, I know why. 

628
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,280
I know why and it's. 
Not well, I know you know why, 

629
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,520
but it's a well tell everybody. 
Why? 

630
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Why? 
Where did 3:00 AM come from? 

631
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,240
So the idea and, and everyone 
who's watching me has heard me 

632
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,800
say this a million times back in
the day, early humanity. 

633
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080
And we're talking about, I'm not
talking about Hogo sapiens 

634
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,240
either. 
I'm talking about our other 

635
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,240
primitive ancestors. 
OK, we accept all kinds here on 

636
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,920
Splendid Spirits, but go. 
So, So what? 

637
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,560
What used to happen is when they
would get a fire going to stay, 

638
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,240
to stay warm, that fire would 
end up starting to deplete. 

639
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,040
So they'd wake up in the middle 
of the night, they'd go, they'd 

640
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,120
use the bathroom, they'd go and 
they'd get, you know, logs and 

641
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,840
branches and brush for the fire 
to keep it going. 

642
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,960
So they wouldn't freeze to death
or die or get or get dragged off

643
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,639
by a wild animal in the middle 
of the night. 

644
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,320
Right. 
So, well, that's actually where 

645
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,000
fears and phobias come from, 
too. 

646
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,679
We can talk about that in a 
minute because they're both 

647
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,560
intertwined. 
But now all this genetic memory 

648
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,360
is still distilled in us, just 
like our pancreas is. 

649
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,600
I mean, our, our, our appendix 
is and all these other little 

650
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,159
like shriveled up things in our 
body that we don't use anymore. 

651
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,920
But this, this, this, this 
memory, this DNA memory is still

652
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,600
in our body. 
And what happens? 

653
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,760
We wake up at 3:00 in the 
morning, right two in the 

654
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239
morning, 4:00 in the morning, 
that witching hour, that sweet 

655
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,000
spot and it's all just that our 
our DNA memory remembering that 

656
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,920
we need to wake up, check our 
surroundings, use the bathroom 

657
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,280
stove, the flames, right. 
But but it gets it gets even 

658
00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:00,560
crazier when you break down the 
human perception and condition 

659
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,960
of it all, because that's when 
people have trouble waking up. 

660
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,240
So all the sudden you wake up at
3:00 and you can't move and 

661
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:14,080
you're paralyzed and you're half
asleep and all the shadows in 

662
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,800
your room are are acting up and 
you know you're in this 

663
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,600
delirious state. 
So all the So then you take 

664
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000
that, you take everything I just
mentioned. 

665
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:28,160
You throw in Hollywood, you 
throw in spiritualism, you throw

666
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,400
in the woo factor of the entire 
thing. 

667
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,720
And what And what happens, what 
pops out is this 3:00 AM, this 

668
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:39,080
witching hour. 
Yeah, But the reality of and, 

669
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800
and of course religion too, 
because the 3:00 AM is supposed 

670
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080
to be a mockery of the Trinity, 
you know? 

671
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,440
Because it's like the threes and
all that shit. 

672
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,120
Yeah, and all. 
That shit, it's all you know, 

673
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,480
it's. 
All it is such bogus and such 

674
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,600
ABS and, and now it's one of 
those things where like when I'm

675
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,800
live and I'm talking about it, 
I'm just like, yeah, the 33 AM 

676
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,040
doesn't matter for me. 
You know, if it's three, it's 

677
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,560
it's three every, you know, it 
hits 3:00 AM in every time zone 

678
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,280
at some point. 
It just doesn't, it doesn't 

679
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,360
affect me or my documentation. 
So that's the IT it's, it is 

680
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,600
annoying. 
I I don't like it. 

681
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,240
That's one of the tropes, and I 
call it the romantic paranormal.

682
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,280
Well, you, well, you know what's
funny? 

683
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,480
So I'm reading this book and 
we'll, we'll talk about this. 

684
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,120
I'm, I'm halfway through it and 
we'll get into this in one of 

685
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,640
the in in a future episode. 
But it's called sensing spirits,

686
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,280
right? 
Paranormal investigation and the

687
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,760
social construction of ghosts, 
right? 

688
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,600
A professor wrote it. 
His name's Mark Eaton. 

689
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,520
I couldn't get him on the 
podcast because he said that 

690
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,880
when he was out promoting the 
book, it got weird for him and 

691
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,880
he got nervous about his family 
because of all the crazy people 

692
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,480
in the genre that we're in. 
Plus he's very busy teaching. 

693
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,400
But he was like, I don't want 
to. 

694
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,520
I just, I'm done with it. 
Yeah, I don't blame. 

695
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,960
But what's really. 
So it's this idea of when you he

696
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,160
interviewed like 40-5 different 
ghosts, paranormal and ghost 

697
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,160
hunters and paranormal 
investigators and all that, like

698
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,160
from all over. 
And, and like I said, I'm not 

699
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,120
done with it. 
So I don't know where the 

700
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,880
ultimate thing is, but it, it 
looking for trends of why 

701
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,840
someone becomes a ghost hunter. 
And you could just immediate, 

702
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,960
it's almost, if I were to grab, 
you know, pull a ghost hunter 

703
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,000
out and pull them aside. 
I, I bet I can start analyzing 

704
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,760
their background, right? 
Like This is why you are doing 

705
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,120
this. 
This is why you think this. 

706
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,520
And then when it comes to actual
investigation, what's really 

707
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,480
fascinating is just sort of the 
social dining. 

708
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,240
So most people who get into it, 
when they start being curious 

709
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:48,040
about it, they look for they 
they want to start a team, 

710
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960
right? 
They start as a team usually. 

711
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,840
Yeah. 
You know, and then but that 

712
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,920
team, it depends on, you know, 
whatever that team was doing 

713
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
then dictates how they 
investigate, right. 

714
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,920
So, and most of these people 
think of themselves as 

715
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,800
scientists, right, Because they 
use stuff, they use gear. 

716
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,720
So therefore they are it's 
science based and that's, you 

717
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,080
know, and and where did they get
the idea of the gear? 

718
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,160
84% can get can get traced back 
to ghost hunters and ghost 

719
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,840
adventures. 
And you know, like, it's so it's

720
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,000
like the TV shows like this 
Spike, very few of the older 

721
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,480
guys, anybody who's older goes 
back to like these authors or 

722
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,600
something that's like 
beforehand, you know, and then 

723
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,160
you get, you know, like guys 
like Steve Parsons, right, who 

724
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,680
were like, I didn't, you know, 
this is how I investigate 

725
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,600
because this I was doing this 
before the TV show came out and 

726
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,520
it you know, it sort of was it. 
It's so I'm dying to finish it 

727
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,040
because that is, you know, the, 
IT, it, it's almost preordained,

728
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,920
right, of how you look at how 
you examine, how you study, how 

729
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
you look at it, and then what 
you feel that you're seeing. 

730
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:04,440
It's, it's funny, I'm, I'm 
actually working on a book and I

731
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,720
have a couple of books that are 
going to end up coming out and 

732
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,560
don't get excited everybody. 
It has nothing to do with my 

733
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,520
documentation. 
The first book that I'm actually

734
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,440
releasing is almost going to be 
it's well, it's going to be my 

735
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,960
perspective as a documenter 
documenting the paranormal and 

736
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:29,680
dealing with the mental illness 
of the people that are watching.

737
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,800
It's literally and it's gonna, 
it's gonna highlight the big 

738
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,360
correlation between mental 
illness and the paranormal. 

739
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,440
You got to. 
You might have to piss a couple.

740
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,200
People off with it at first. 
But well, well first of all, 

741
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,280
before you start talking about 
mental illness in a book, you 

742
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,720
should really sit down with a 
psychiatrist as well and have 

743
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,800
them review it just like a 
professional and then have this 

744
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,040
way you have multiple opinions 
and you can speak. 

745
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,840
Well, hey Gary. 
Also don't forget I stopped 

746
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:01,400
right before I got my master's. 
I understand. 

747
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:04,520
I have a, you know right. 
But that's like. 

748
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Saying let's like, say you know,
but you can't you still can't 

749
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,240
say you're a doctor on an 
airplane. 

750
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:08,640
You know what? 
I. 

751
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,360
Mean. 
Of course not. 

752
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,880
If you want to be legitimate 
about it, you want to, you just 

753
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,040
want to have, you know, you want
to have corroborating. 

754
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,400
Oh, of course. 
Degrees. 

755
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,040
But that's a good idea, because 
it is it's, it's gonna be, it's 

756
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,200
gonna. 
Be insane. 

757
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,800
What is missing? 
Like what is missing in a 

758
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,400
person? 
The other night we had some 

759
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,760
random chick came in the live 
and started talking about and I 

760
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,280
don't think she was trolling. 
I think she was dead serious 

761
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,040
because you could tell the 
difference between someone 

762
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,640
that's trolling and someone 
that's not. 

763
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,600
This chick was saying she was a 
descendant of Christ. 

764
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,360
You know she had. 
Like the Da Vinci Code. 

765
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Like The Da Vinci Code, like all
this crazy stuff. 

766
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,080
And it's like what attracts 
somebody with mental illness to 

767
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,800
the paranormal. 
Well, also, dude, you also got a

768
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,560
factor in the fact that, you 
know, you're talking about the 

769
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,400
Internet where someone could 
also just be goofing and 

770
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,120
trolling and stuff. 
So, but yeah, I, I certainly 

771
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,000
believe. 
You chapter because trolling is 

772
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,680
a mental illness. 
When, when you when you are a 

773
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,080
professional troll, Yeah. 
It really is right. 

774
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,600
It's a. 
It's a mental illness. 

775
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,280
Hands down, it's a mental 
illness. 

776
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,200
But it's kind of amazing, it's 
kind of amazing that these all 

777
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,640
of these media companies have 
captured that mental illness and

778
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,880
made it a billion dollar 
business 'cause they get that 

779
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,640
that kind of rage. 
We've said it 100 times, right? 

780
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,720
Enragement equals engagement. 
Yeah. 

781
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,920
That's that's the story of the 
world, isn't it? 

782
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,680
I mean, think about. 
Of course, of course. 

783
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,600
Fast food chains, people that 
people that have an issue with 

784
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:44,520
overeating and it's not a Body 
Issue, it's a mind issue. 

785
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,800
What are they capitalizing on? 
They're capitalizing on that 

786
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,800
issue, whether it's grief, 
whether it's anchor, whether 

787
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,360
it's whatever that's making 
somebody eat too much. 

788
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,840
What are they capitalizing? 
God, they're capitalizing on 

789
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,560
that. 
Oh, you're feeling sad. 

790
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,560
Go get yourself a number 4. 
You know, like that's what. 

791
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,640
They're doing. 
Yeah, right. 

792
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,160
There you go, dude #4 guys, the 
number 4 will make you feel real

793
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,320
good, real good, Feel real good.
I like what Karina just said. 

794
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Karina just wrote. 
That's why we all get along so 

795
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,120
well, Rusty, because we're all a
little bit crazy, which is so 

796
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,480
true. 
So that's the other thing too. 

797
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,280
There's. 
And guys, by the way, if, if my 

798
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,320
lips don't match or John's, 
though, that's because when 

799
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,480
we're, there's always a little 
lag and tech stuff and that 

800
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,160
could happen. 
I repost these videos. 

801
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,800
I repost this episode tomorrow 
and there's no lag. 

802
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,000
So you know. 
So there's a big difference 

803
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,400
between being a little crazy, 
being a little crazy, and then 

804
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,440
actually being mentally ill. 
There is a big difference, 

805
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,160
right? 
And the, the paranormal just has

806
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,000
as it's felt, I mean it, it is 
insane, dude. 

807
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,800
There was one chick, I don't 
think she's on anymore, right? 

808
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,480
But she would literally go live,
sit in her house, say she's 

809
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,280
being plagued by demons. 
But there was nothing going on, 

810
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,360
right? 
And it got my attention because 

811
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,120
someone's like John, you need to
help this woman. 

812
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,200
She really needs help. 
So I literally went into her 

813
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,240
life and everybody, everybody in
the chat is like, Santa's here, 

814
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,440
Santa's here, you need to listen
to Santa. 

815
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,920
So her ma's are actually pinning
my comments, my questions as I'm

816
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,720
asking them. 
And I ask, dude, I asked basic 

817
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,760
questions. 
She flipped out with every 

818
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,280
question I asked you. 
Know we should do. 

819
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,840
And then I turned around and I 
was like, well, I can't help 

820
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,800
you, dude. 
She ended up getting priests, 

821
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,240
all these people and nobody 
could help her because it was 

822
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,520
mental illness and. 
John, you know what we should 

823
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,400
do, dude. 
You know what we should do? 

824
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,680
We know what we should do. 
We should perform a live 

825
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:53,560
exorcism. 
Dude, could you imagine what 

826
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,320
I'll find? 
I'll find something. 

827
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,200
What kind of Actually, we're 
both atheists. 

828
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,680
How's that gonna work? 
I don't know dude, I just know 

829
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,320
it'll be great with you and I 
rolling in like the power of 

830
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,320
Christ. 
Compels you? 

831
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,400
Yeah. 
God, how's that gonna work for 

832
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,720
us? 
Dude, here's here's what's we're

833
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,080
gonna find something. 
We'll get people like we'll get 

834
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,680
people to write in. 
No, no, we'll get no, dude, 

835
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,280
we're gonna do it. 
We're gonna get people to write 

836
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,480
in. 
Like who do you know someone 

837
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,400
who's possessed and like, we're 
gonna show up. 

838
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,880
Like for real. 
We'll show up and we'll like, 

839
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,920
I'll come in costume, I'll wear 
the thing and then you'll to 

840
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,920
it'll be like you're about to 
get exercised by splinter 

841
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,640
spirits. 
And it's like, we'll just go in 

842
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,360
and we'll have words with that 
demon and we'll see what's up 

843
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,560
with and we're going to do it 
without you guys. 

844
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,400
We're going to do it without any
experience, without any 

845
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,280
training, without any belief. 
And we're just going to go and 

846
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,720
we're going to exorcise that 
demon out of this person. 

847
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,520
But could you imagine how it 
would do to be great content, 

848
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,640
the two of us there and someone 
freaking out? 

849
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,600
Oh, I agree, I agree. 
I promise you I'm going to make 

850
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,120
that happen in 2026. 
Dude, that'd be hilarious. 

851
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,080
I'm not dressed up like a priest
though, you know. 

852
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,480
Dude, well, we can get like pre 
shirts. 

853
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,880
You don't like tuxedo T-shirts? 
Yeah. 

854
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,880
Yeah. 
Oh, yeah, we'll dress up and I'm

855
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
not dressed up. 
I'm not putting the collar on, 

856
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,840
you know. 
Could you imagine? 

857
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,120
I'm not putting the collar on, 
dude. 

858
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,720
That'd be hilarious. 
Well, we're about to piss off a 

859
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,160
lot of people. 
Oh yeah, dude, we'll make them 

860
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,440
all angry. 
But it's, you know, I certainly 

861
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,360
want to witness it and try. 
Well, because people, you know, 

862
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,960
people ask me about that all the
time, John, if you don't believe

863
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,160
in God and you're an Equus, what
about possession? 

864
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,800
So I talk about possession and I
say it's 100% real. 

865
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,560
A lot of the times though, you 
have to figure out if it's 

866
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,680
mental illness or an actual 
possession. 

867
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,000
And then if it's possession, why
all the sudden are people 

868
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,480
screaming about God at this and 
the devil and all this stuff? 

869
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,160
My answer to that is look at 
possession in other cultures. 

870
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,000
What happens when somebody gets 
possessed in another culture? 

871
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,840
They're not screaming about God,
the devil and Scripture and 

872
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,400
speaking in tongues. 
They're not doing that. 

873
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,440
They're still acting all crazy 
and weird, but it has to do with

874
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,400
their culture. 
And that's because if there's an

875
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,240
interdimensional entity that's 
actually possessing A vessel, 

876
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,080
the, the human brain can't 
handle it. 

877
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,920
So it's going to spaz out. 
So if you get a Catholic or a 

878
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,280
Protestant or a Lutheran or any 
sort of Christian base and they 

879
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,920
get when they get infected by an
interdimensional, what's going 

880
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,800
to happen to their brain? 
It's going to, you know, it 

881
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,680
knows what's going on and it's 
going to be very religious 

882
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,360
themed where if you were to take
a possessed person from a tribe,

883
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,560
an isolated tribe and show them,
it would be completely 

884
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,920
different. 
It would there would be 

885
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,880
similarities because they're 
possessed by an interdimensional

886
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,280
entity, but it wouldn't be the 
same. 

887
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,360
But then something hold on. 
And then the next question that 

888
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,160
gets asked, Gary is, well, how 
does a priest remove a demon? 

889
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,120
Well, that's intent. 
That's intent. 

890
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,240
Dude, I got intent coming out in
spades. 

891
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,680
Dude, I'll intend that demon 
out. 

892
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,080
That's not saying. 
We can do this too, 100% and and

893
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,440
so that's it. 
That'd be a great. 

894
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Now here's the thing though. 
Would it work with somebody 

895
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:19,720
that's possessed by a demon? 
If we go at them from a non 

896
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,560
religious based intent exorcism,
would their brain be able to be 

897
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,120
strong enough to register what 
we're doing? 

898
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,080
I don't know. 
OK, we fake it. 

899
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:31,680
What if we just fake it? 
How are they going to know we're

900
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,760
lying? 
Do you think they can read our 

901
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,000
minds? 
We would have to. 

902
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,360
Well, I do. 
I do know that some entities can

903
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,720
skim the mind because spirits 
will say things before I say it.

904
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,240
That's happened to me tons of 
times on live. 

905
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,560
But I don't know. 
That's a great question. 

906
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,920
I guess that would be, I guess, 
if we actually do this. 

907
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,160
This is now turning more into an
experiment. 

908
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,240
Yeah, 100%. 
So the whole thing, of course, 

909
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,120
it's an experiment. 
It's an experiment. 

910
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,080
I mean, we're going to sit there
now, yes, there'll be some 

911
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,480
Guinea pig who's like, you know,
hopefully they're they're 

912
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,720
having, you know, a real. 
Some sort of possession, that 

913
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,760
Guinea pig squeal and. 
It's like, yeah, and we're going

914
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,520
to sit there and we're going to 
expel the deed. 

915
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,440
We're going to exorcise the 
demons out of it. 

916
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:18,160
I'm down for that, right? 
The power of Christ compels you.

917
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,800
And we'll try and then we'll 
like, we'll have different, 

918
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,200
we'll have different bottles 
filled with different liquids, 

919
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,720
right? 
We'll have actual holy water, 

920
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,000
we'll have a placebo, we'll have
Gatorade. 

921
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,960
And we'll just like, you know, 
like, right, We'll see, Like 

922
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,520
what works the most? 
What works? 

923
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,840
You know, we'll have a rosary, 
we'll have a satanic, you know, 

924
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,320
the Beth, the Bethel, the 
whatever, the the pentagram. 

925
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,240
Yep, Beth Heben or Beth. 
Whatever. 

926
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
We'll have one of those. 

927
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,520
We'll see what We'll try all of 
it. 

928
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,800
That works. 
See if anything burns. 

929
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,360
See if anything burns, you know,
Yeah. 

930
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,560
Why not? 
Like, I don't give a shit. 

931
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Like I was going to say what 
makes why? 

932
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,760
Why can't I be an exorcist? 
Can't tell it's America. 

933
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,280
Well, did I ever tell you about 
what what my, my, my line of 

934
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,200
what I wanted my career to be? 
Did I ever get into that and 

935
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,000
tell you that originally? 
Originally when I was an 

936
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,720
exorcist. 
Well, no, not an exorcist. 

937
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:21,960
No, no, no. 
When I was studying to be a 

938
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,480
psychologist, I had this whole 
path in mind. 

939
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,520
Everything I was doing was for 
this number one goal, and that 

940
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,760
was to work for the Vatican. 
You are. 

941
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,520
That's the best job. 
That's the best job you can have

942
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,000
as a psychologist. 
You work maybe, you know, a week

943
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,000
out of the year, if that they 
fly you around, you know it. 

944
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,040
It's, it's, it's a dream job, 
right? 

945
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,880
And all they want, they want an 
atheist that's a psychologist to

946
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,400
go in, look at somebody and go, 
well, I believe it's mental 

947
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,840
illness, but I can't pinpoint 
exactly what it is. 

948
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,840
That's the words they're looking
for. 

949
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,560
You know, they're not looking 
for an actual diagnosis. 

950
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,480
They're looking for, there's 
something going on here. 

951
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,600
I still don't know what it is 
though, but I believe it is 

952
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,400
mental illness. 
This bitch is crazy here. 

953
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,480
This guy is crazy. 
Sure, yeah, absolutely. 

954
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,760
And let me just do. 
For a living. 

955
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,320
I love that idea. 
I want to just go real quick to 

956
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,920
the chat. 
A couple things that I spotted 

957
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,600
that I want to address for some 
people here, and I want to say 1

958
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,400
Faye Blood, If people were 
caught making fun of you online,

959
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,680
they're just bullies in their 
Dicks. 

960
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,520
You know, what are you going to 
do if you got a mentalist? 

961
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,120
You know, if you're having 
seizures, that's a different 

962
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,240
thing we're talking about 
entirely. 

963
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,120
And those people shouldn't be 
friends. 

964
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,320
And then Robin, we don't waste 
tequila ever. 

965
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,240
I'm not throwing tequila on any 
exercise person and waste it. 

966
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,840
That's a terrible idea. 
Let's think let's think, let's 

967
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,520
just do it. 
Some shots of it, but we don't 

968
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,280
waste. 
We don't throw tequila at the at

969
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,520
the possess. 
That's a waste of tequila. 

970
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Terrible idea. 
Terrible I. 

971
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Can't do it. 
Awful. 

972
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,720
What else did someone say? 
Here, What was that? 

973
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,640
What? 
Dude, mark this time, Mark this 

974
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,440
time in the stream. 
Dude, something, just something 

975
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,200
just appeared over here. 
All right, let's go back and 

976
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,240
look at John's camera full frame
to see if we see what he just 

977
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:21,640
saw. 
No, no. 

978
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,480
No, Yep, you can't do it. 
Can't do it. 

979
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Yep. 
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 

980
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,680
What was that? 
There seems to be a dip in the 

981
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,480
light. 
You'll see a black flash. 

982
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960
Take another look. 
Yep, you can't do it. 

983
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Can't do it. 
Yep. 

984
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:47,200
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 
What was that Mark? 

985
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,080
This. 
Time on my side? 

986
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,360
Yep, on my side. 30 seconds from
this point. 

987
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,840
Dude, something just happened, I
don't know what. 

988
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,160
It was. 
Yeah, I don't know what it was. 

989
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,240
I don't know if anybody in the 
chat noticed it, but something 

990
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,320
popped off. 
I wouldn't superimpose a big set

991
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,560
of balls. 
Man, I think hold on, hold on. 

992
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,360
I'm ready. 
Ready. 

993
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,320
Ready here? 
What was something? 

994
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,160
Slapped him. 
I think it was these nuts. 

995
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,960
You might even look real quick 
to see if the the any of the 

996
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,840
cats were in here. 
Something I had a a mass. 

997
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,080
I don't know, maybe. 
Maybe it's just my imagination. 

998
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,160
Who knows. 
Maybe it was a glitch, I don't 

999
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,240
know, but I saw something. 
We all saw something. 

1000
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,120
Wait, I want to chime in to 
somebody else. 

1001
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:34,200
So Crystal on Insta talking 
about, you know, I don't know, 

1002
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,640
it's hard. 
I don't know what she was 

1003
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,760
talking about, but she had lost 
somebody and she was looking for

1004
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,320
answers and looking for other 
people and experiences and it 

1005
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,680
was, it's hard to find. 
It's hard to find realistic or 

1006
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,400
you know, someone to trust, I 
guess. 

1007
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,520
Oh, 100% that's what she's 
saying 100% looking for answers.

1008
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,120
People always looking around 
looking for answers when someone

1009
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,520
they lose passes. 
And remember, half of the people

1010
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,040
that are looking for answers, 
when they do get the answer or 

1011
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,400
they get a truthful response, 
they get offended. 

1012
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,320
They don't like what they're 
hearing, kind of like when ghost

1013
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,000
hunters and investigators don't 
like the results they get. 

1014
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,880
Yeah, I know. 
I know. 

1015
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,600
They don't like. 
Well, that's what's, well, then 

1016
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,120
you get someone like Kathy who 
does grief counseling for this 

1017
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,360
very purpose, right? 
Like because people just have 

1018
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,880
to, they try and they just want 
to figure out what happened and 

1019
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,760
hopefully they can get you 
through it. 

1020
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,000
That's why. 
And, and you know what, some 

1021
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,280
people find it heartless on my 
end, but that's the one thing I 

1022
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,440
don't allow in my chat or in my 
community is trauma bonding. 

1023
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,400
I don't. 
Allow it. 

1024
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,760
People are obsessed with it 
dude. 

1025
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520
I think, I think trauma bonding 
is dangerous. 

1026
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,600
It's just not a smart thing for 
any sort of mental healing. 

1027
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,840
It's it's bad. 
It can get very bad for a lot of

1028
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,840
reasons. 
Yeah, it's crazy. 

1029
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,520
Well, the the people's obsession
with death is always one of 

1030
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,560
those things. 
And they always want to really 

1031
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,240
get into it. 
Like, you know, if someone 

1032
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:03,000
passes that they haven't talked 
to in 35 years, all of a sudden 

1033
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,360
they're posting a picture of 
them, them and that person on 

1034
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,960
Instagram. 
And it's like, man, I remember 

1035
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,960
they were so full of what's 
like, motherfucker, you didn't 

1036
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,000
talk to that person for 30 
years. 

1037
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,560
You're not friends, you don't 
like. 

1038
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,560
What are you saying? 
I'm not going to mention any 

1039
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,080
names, right? 
I'm not going to mention any 

1040
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,840
names. 
There was a, a dude that I and I

1041
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,440
went to high school with and he 
ended up passing away, right? 

1042
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,040
And everybody made such a big 
deal about this dude passing 

1043
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,120
away, you know, gave him Angel 
wings on Facebook. 

1044
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,640
You know, the worst, right? 
The worst. 

1045
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,280
Meanwhile, meanwhile, this dude 
was known as a bully, went after

1046
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,520
people for no reason. 
One time I caught him beating 

1047
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,360
the shit out of his girlfriend 
and I literally beat the living 

1048
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,400
shit out of him. 
Like like it was like it was, it

1049
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,440
was, it was bad, right? 
This dude was not a good dude. 

1050
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:03,200
Even his own family before his 
death wanted really nothing to 

1051
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,040
do with him. 
But he dies and then all the 

1052
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,720
sudden he becomes an Angel. 
I know and it's I was like you 

1053
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:12,480
can't speak. 
It's like people like you can't 

1054
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,400
speak I'll of the dead and I'm 
like, why not? 

1055
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,880
That's the best time to speak 
I'll of them. 

1056
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,520
How about? 
This Listen, I get it, not 

1057
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,520
speaking I'll of the dead, I 
understand that. 

1058
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:25,960
But how about let's not bullshit
them after they die either, 

1059
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,720
right? 
How about let's not glorify 

1060
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,360
somebody who's dead? 
But if someone's just like if 

1061
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,760
someone was right, but if 
someone was clearly an asshole 

1062
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,240
when they were alive, like why 
can't we continue that 

1063
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:40,000
conversation while they're dead?
Why is it wrong to say, you know

1064
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,280
what I mean, like that? 
And people like you can't be 

1065
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,760
yelling the dead. 
I I get that. 

1066
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,400
It's like they were, you know, 
they were a peak, you know, a 

1067
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,120
piece of shit. 
Why all of a sudden are they 

1068
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,360
not? 
No, they're still a piece of 

1069
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:49,960
shit. 
They might be. 

1070
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,280
Dead. 
No, they're still a piece of. 

1071
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Shit, the acts that they did 
disappear, once they passed 

1072
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,720
away, they still affected 
people, you know? 

1073
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,400
It's terrible people. 
So it's a reminder. 

1074
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Yeah, it's nuts. 
Everybody's a reminder. 

1075
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,080
If you're watching on standard 
Paranormal, hop over Splinter 

1076
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,600
Spirits and give us a like and a
follow. 

1077
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,640
Make sure you check us in on 
YouTube, Spotify, wherever you 

1078
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,960
get your podcasts. 
We've had a lot of good episodes

1079
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,480
rolling from October to 
November. 

1080
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,440
It's been real busy. 
We got a couple good ones coming

1081
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,680
out. 
Next week's going to be hot 

1082
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,120
again. 
Rosie Grant with her talking 

1083
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,240
about her cookbook about 
headstone recipes. 

1084
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:34,040
It's just a fun one. 
Just an odd way, an odd new way 

1085
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,160
to stay communicating with the 
dead, right with through 

1086
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,120
nostalgia, through micro history
is another thing that like your 

1087
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,600
phrase, micro history, another 
thing we look at, which is 

1088
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,080
absolutely a, you know, a fun. 
One well, listen, I'm going to 

1089
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,000
be honest with you. 
I haven't seen somebody do 

1090
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,640
something that unique with with 
with the cemetery since I 

1091
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,360
started walking cemeteries. 
If I do say so myself. 

1092
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,200
I and I which is true. 
That's. 

1093
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:03,800
What I said to you, Yeah. 
I think, I think what she does 

1094
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,640
is is purely unique, you know, 
and and listen, I can guarantee 

1095
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,040
you if there were thousands of 
headstones with recipes written 

1096
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,240
on them, she would have a 
million and one people doing it.

1097
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:16,720
Also she. 
Really was. 

1098
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,840
She took the time, she did the 
work, she put. 

1099
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,800
The work, there's only a couple 
headstones and she, you know, 

1100
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,200
went in on it and did it 
awesomely, you know? 

1101
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,120
I was telling you that she has a
great she has a great video 

1102
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,800
online about Irish whiskey. 
The guy who invented Irish 

1103
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,360
whiskey. 
Yup, Yup, I saw that and and 

1104
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,960
what she does. 
So she finds that she gets a 

1105
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,360
call, she goes, she finds that 
the headstone, she makes the 

1106
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,200
recipe and then she goes to a 
local bar that celebrates that 

1107
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,480
and uses that recipe, you know, 
for Irish whiskey where it 

1108
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,720
started in San Fran. 
It's like, you know, and then 

1109
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,280
she goes back and she has a, you
know, has a drink at this at the

1110
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,760
gravesite. 
I mean, it's really A1 these 

1111
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,160
little, these little mini 
history films which are quite, 

1112
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,120
she's quite wonderful. 
Like she really is very cool. 

1113
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,360
Yeah. 
All right, dude. 

1114
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,640
Well, that's I think that's 
that's a solid hour. 

1115
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,640
What do you got going on 
tonight? 

1116
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,720
Are you going to be anywhere 
special or can you tell us or 

1117
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:09,720
no? 
No, it's too. 

1118
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,080
I'm not going to be Yeah, no, 
I'm going to be here at the 

1119
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,640
Breck Estate. 
It's way too cold. 

1120
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,480
I was going to go to buck out, 
but it, it, it, it dropped into 

1121
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,080
the third, you know, 3029° so. 
Yeah, it's raining. 

1122
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,800
It's been raining in LA for like
4 days. 

1123
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,280
Yeah, that's terrible. 
Yeah, that's that's that's not 

1124
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,160
happening for all you know. 
I'm not, I did it the other 

1125
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,520
night, last night I went to the 
cemetery, dude. 

1126
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,920
And I was just so uncomfortable.
And, and the problem is, is that

1127
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,200
that affects the spirits, right?
The spirits know I'm 

1128
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,840
uncomfortable. 
So when you get upset. 

1129
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,840
Yeah, when I get, when anything,
if I'm not in the right head 

1130
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,120
space, like they just get so it,
it's the weird. 

1131
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,240
And and I think that has to do 
with I've always spoken about 

1132
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,160
this, my magnetic field, you 
know, that energy that people 

1133
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,480
like this word people like to 
throw around. 

1134
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,760
I don't like to say your energy,
it's my magnetic field that that

1135
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,120
is that causes that. 
Because as we know, you know, 

1136
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,520
the brain affects the heart, 
heart affects the brain, yada 

1137
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,760
yada yada, all that fun stuff, 
all that actual scientific 

1138
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,320
stuff, you know, not, not the 
healing phoenixes of the world 

1139
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,920
coming in. 
That's the best way to start 

1140
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,560
experiencing that crap. 
Well, we'll get there. 

1141
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,520
We'll get there soon. 
We're getting deeper, farther. 

1142
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,320
We'll figure it out. 
Heather, what are you talking 

1143
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,600
about? 
When you're talking about the 

1144
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,760
ghost hunt with with ghost fire?
The ghost fire? 

1145
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,520
I don't know what you mean. 
Has anyone, Heather was asking, 

1146
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,040
has anyone won the ghost fire? 
Ghost Hunt. 

1147
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Oh, she's talking about finding 
all the the superimposed 

1148
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,880
pictures you put in, dude. 
Oh, I totally forgot I did that.

1149
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,560
No one's even sent me it. 
No one has had. 

1150
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,240
Thank you for reminding me. 
Thank you for reminding me. 

1151
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:06,440
I superimposed some images of 
apparitions in the ghost fire. 

1152
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,920
The. 
Ghost Fire you totally forgot 

1153
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,680
episode. 
No one has commented or sent me 

1154
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,880
an e-mail or a direct message 
about seeing them. 

1155
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,880
I will tell you. 
There's 10. 

1156
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,840
No, there's nothing. 
I thought you put 10 in. 

1157
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,880
No, I didn't put 10 in. 
I didn't put 10 in. 

1158
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:34,760
I'll tell you, I put 3IN. 
They are extremely hard to find.

1159
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,520
They are. 
You would have to. 

1160
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,960
You have to be a forensic. 
Actually, 11 is pretty easy to 

1161
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,520
see. 
One will be fairly easy to see, 

1162
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,360
but the other two you would 
have. 

1163
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,360
You'll have to be a forensic 
sort of analyst of video to see 

1164
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,120
it. 
You have to go frame by frame 

1165
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,440
and you might spot it. 
I will tell you that all three 

1166
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,920
happen at similar. 
There's a something, there's a 

1167
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,000
precursor to all three 
happening. 

1168
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,360
I'm not going to give that away,
but there are three. 

1169
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,320
All the audio is real, but then 
those ghosts, the ghosts I put 

1170
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,240
in there are just for fun, just 
for funsies to see. 

1171
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,440
But there are three. 
But if you can e-mail me and 

1172
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,320
tell me where where they are, 
I'll still send you something. 

1173
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,080
We'll send you something nice if
you guys will play. 

1174
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,160
But yeah, thank you, Heather, 
for reminding me. 

1175
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:21,840
That's great. 
Yeah. 

1176
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,320
But absolutely. 
You know, it's like, that's 

1177
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,200
right. 
It's the guys. 

1178
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,120
Don't forget the Santa 
Paranormal Dinner Party is less 

1179
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:33,240
than a month away now and we are
doing an awesome experiment for 

1180
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,200
everybody that attends to 30 
people. 

1181
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,280
I think there's going to be 
about 30 people, so it'll work 

1182
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,920
out just fine. 
We are going to do 10. 

1183
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,640
Mass scale s s method. 
You're right. 

1184
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,760
So I like how you said s s. 
I call it Estes like it's testes

1185
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,720
without the T. 
Yeah, Estes testes. 

1186
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,760
The the Estes method, we're 
gonna do it. 

1187
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,000
We're gonna have 30. 
It's gonna be really interesting

1188
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:03,480
to see what we get, but it'll be
absolutely fun to try and do it.

1189
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:04,480
Yeah. 
We're gonna do that at the 

1190
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,800
dinner party, so that's gonna be
really, really fun. 

1191
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,600
A whole episode of Splintered 
Spirits filmed at the dinner 

1192
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,560
party. 
It will do that, Yeah. 

1193
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:14,960
It'll be a good, it'll be a 
good. 

1194
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,760
It'll be a real scientific ghost
adventure experience. 

1195
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,960
Not ghost adventure the show, 
but for us, our own little 

1196
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,320
splintered spirits adventure. 
But yeah, the ghost fire 

1197
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,240
challenge. 
Google Ghost Fire. 

1198
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,200
Too little too late. 
Don't forget about me again. 

1199
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,480
Yeah. 
See if you can find those 

1200
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:36,520
ghosts. 
That's a fun one. 

1201
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,880
Thank you. 
I totally forgot, dude, I 

1202
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,160
totally forgot. 
I did that shit. 

1203
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:47,040
But guys got a big contest for 
you and then nothing. 

1204
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,920
Shit. 
Totally. 

1205
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,400
Forgot about it, Gary. 
It's starting to rub off on you.

1206
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,240
It's starting to rub off on you.
Gary sharpens the tack and he's 

1207
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,840
starting to forget. 
That's starting to forget. 

1208
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,240
Getting old, getting old. 
All right, guys. 

1209
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,880
John, that's it for today. 
Not with that. 

1210
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,960
No, no, Listen, I'll look good. 
You look good today. 

1211
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,040
I'll stay looking good as long 
as I can. 

1212
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,120
But you know, that's funny, 
guys. 

1213
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Thank you so much. 
Thank you so much for today. 

1214
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,680
Again, if you're on standard 
paranormal, hop over to 

1215
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,080
splintered spirits, give us a 
like and follow Spotify, 

1216
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,920
YouTube, wherever you get your 
podcasts. 

1217
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,000
Instagram folks, if there's if 
there's anybody there, 

1218
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,400
Instagram's like, it looks like 
it's like 1 at a time. 

1219
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,920
We got to build that audience 
up. 

1220
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,520
Facebook, I don't know if 
anybody's checking us out there,

1221
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,080
but thank you so much for 
another live episode. 

1222
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,680
It was a fun convo and a fun 
hang. 

1223
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,280
And again, Marc Maronaccio 
episode dropped this week. 

1224
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,440
Rosie Grant and To Die for the 
Cookbook episode drops on 

1225
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,720
Tuesday. 
You don't want to miss any of 

1226
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,560
these. 
They're very fun, very good time

1227
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,560
and stick around for more 
content and keep watching John. 

1228
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,840
Have a good safe night. 
Well, that's it for another 

1229
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,960
episode of Splintered Spirits. 
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1230
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,120
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1231
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,800
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