1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,560 There it is. We've got visual everywhere. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Splintered Spirits Live. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Takes a second. Sometimes, folks, it takes a 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,520 second. Let's see. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,079 What is the chat saying? Release the Estes files, Gary. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,480 That's funny. That's coming. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,240 That's what we'll talk about today, folks. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,880 What's coming? What's been? 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,040 Let's give some folks a chance to come on in. 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Anyway, welcome to Splintered Spirits. 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,880 Got a handful of you. I know it's the holiday. 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Probably won't see a lot of you and we won't stay on for very 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,000 long. And happy New Year to you. 14 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,120 What's up, Instagram? How do we get a little more 15 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,960 centered for you folks? See. 16 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,800 How's that? I know it's weird. 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Little halvesies try to figure this out. 18 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Maybe my camera shifted. I know my ass didn't move. 19 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,240 Did the camera move? It's possible we moved 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,480 everything over. Did I get farther away from you 21 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:52,200 or did we get dead on accurate? It's hard to say. 22 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,480 I like how I have you guys here with me as I work out these 23 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,880 technical issues on our lives. You're like, you look centered 24 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,720 to me, guys. But yeah, but I have this on on 25 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,040 a portrait mode, and it's on Instagram, and that always makes 26 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,480 it look a little weird because it's like, I'm half in it and 27 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,200 half not in it. And I guess I got to go over 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,400 this way, but that seems stupid. I think that looks like magic. 29 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,440 And if it's not good, that's as good as it's going to get. 30 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,560 Boop, beep. And there it is. 31 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,960 That's better. Guys. 32 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:17,120 How are you? Welcome to Splintered Spirits 33 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,200 live again for the 15th time if you're on Instagram joining us. 34 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Hey, I hope everyone had a safe and wonderful holiday and don't. 35 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Thanks. Yeah, yeah, don't move. 36 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,560 You did it enough. We don't want to see the camera 37 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,520 moving around anymore. What can I tell you? 38 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Things get knocked around. So that's what happens. 39 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,200 Guys. Thanks for joining us So what 40 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,880 can we talk about today? We'll be we'll keep it quick. 41 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,840 We just want to touch base for the holiday because we just 42 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,320 ended the year and we're starting literally a brand new 43 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:47,520 one on splintered spirits. And if you haven't caught up, we 44 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,880 had a bunch of new episodes drop over in the month of December. 45 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,880 We had a good week. So we had Beck Ravenswood, the 46 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,560 witch who fought back. We had James Anito the 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,600 demonologist, and I'm getting old. 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Who else was our other crazy guest? 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,960 We had three good apps. I'll tell you in a second. 50 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,000 Or can you tell me this is a quiz to see who's been watching. 51 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Anyone. Anyone. 52 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Marie Jackson, she was our live guest. 53 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,560 She was wild. She was really fun. 54 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Man, that was an interesting one. 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,360 And it goes to show what I've learned and sort of done this 56 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,120 whole year with this thing which I find really fun, which I think 57 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,920 the number one question people would have is, you know, so 58 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:37,400 Gary, do you think Ghost exists? And I would say that do I think 59 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,040 ghosts exist? I don't know what's happening. 60 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,640 I do think something is happening, right? 61 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,640 And I think what you're going to see, we've learned. 62 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:45,960 What I've learned in the past year is I don't know what these 63 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,040 coincidences, what what happens here and what's going on. 64 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:54,160 I am leaning more into my nephew's theory of memory 65 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,960 imprints. I'm very curious of what 66 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,320 consciousness is. I don't know if what we're 67 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:06,440 talking to are ghosts or we're picking up the memories of, of 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,720 what people have of these people who have passed. 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,880 Are mediums real? I think they are more intuitive 70 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,520 than most people. Can that tuition intuition be 71 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,920 taught? Maybe. 72 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,880 I don't know. They all say that yes, everyone 73 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,040 can do it. I don't know. 74 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,200 I think everyone could be taught to be a charlatan, but I don't 75 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,120 think anybody with a real gift can be taught to have a real 76 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,560 gift, right? I mean, everybody, you can 77 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,080 probably practice and be a good magician, but you know, that 78 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,280 doesn't make magic real. But I think there are mediums 79 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,880 out there who are more intuitive than others and legit. 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,560 And I think they pick up on things. 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,680 Now, what are they picking up on? 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Are they picking up on the dead? I don't know the answer. 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,560 I just don't know the answer to that. 84 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,440 And might they be picking up on, not to get woo, woo at this 85 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,400 word, energy, right? But are they picking up on the 86 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 energy of other people and the memories of other people? 87 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Guys, I don't know. But if I've heard first hand and 88 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,680 seen things that are too frequent for coincidence. 89 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,080 And how about we leave it at that and we're going to find out 90 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,880 more. And I think what we're trying to 91 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,880 do is I'm trying to learn about asking all the right questions. 92 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,920 And, you know, I gave a list of the books that I've read, if you 93 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,440 haven't, I dropped them on our socials, like a video of all the 94 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,040 books that we read that I've read to try to learn about this 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,280 stuff. And I find them very, I think if 96 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:31,880 you're into this for real, you should read them. 97 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,480 And one of my favorites, and it's probably one of the biggest 98 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,600 skeptics, is this book by Carl Sagan, The Demon Haunted World. 99 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:41,320 And why do I think it's so important? 100 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Not that I'm turning this into a book lesson, but there's a 101 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,800 chapter in here that's really relevant that I think is really 102 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 relevant. Or this the title of it in and 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,200 of itself, which is super cool if I could find it and get to it 104 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,320 right away. Otherwise, I'm not going to sit 105 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,760 here and flip through books. But it's. 106 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,040 Yeah, Yeah. Here it goes. 107 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,840 So it's called, he calls it. What was it? 108 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,360 Oh, the marriage of skepticism and wonder. 109 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,040 And I felt like that phrase really stood out to me in the 110 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,400 whole year that I've been. That sums up this sort of year 111 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:14,360 that I've had doing this, which is the that marriage between 112 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,920 skepticism and wonder. Because here's the thing, guys, 113 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,320 you can't be a scientist, a real scientist. 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,000 And I'm not saying I'm one. I'm not saying that's it. 115 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,120 But even real scientists, not pseudoscientists or 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,560 parascientists, grade A scientists have an imagination. 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,600 They're wondering what is the, what is their, what are they 118 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,640 trying to figure out, right? And then they create all these 119 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,200 tests and then theories to prove these theories. 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,360 They're out of their mind theories, right? 121 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,560 And then they try to do all these things to prove those 122 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,440 theories. That doesn't make them. 123 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,200 But because they're talking about probably mostly like in 124 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,880 the world of physics or science that we have somewhat of a 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,400 handle on, it's not as dismissed as frequently as parascience 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 would be. But I think the same rules 127 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,720 apply. I think being able to ask the 128 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:04,920 right questions and figuring out what we can do to test what's 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,040 happening in the parascience field doesn't make you a 130 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,440 debunker or a disbeliever. It makes you actually more of a 131 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,920 believer than people who are just like, this is all real. 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,400 And then they just float with it. 133 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,160 Those people I, I want, I would, I wouldn't mind trying to figure 134 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,560 out how to scam because you can't separate a fool from their 135 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,560 money any faster than that. So wouldn't it be just great to 136 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,520 scam those guys if they're so gullible? 137 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,600 But I think if you're really into this, you should be asking 138 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,600 questions. You shouldn't take everything at 139 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,240 face value, and you should try to figure out what a healthy way 140 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,520 to go about talking to people with different opinions is. 141 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Or learn. I think I've got a, a good 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,320 handle on what to ask and when to ask it and who to ask. 143 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,720 There's a lot of people on deck that you're going to see. 144 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,000 I think you're, we're going to see a lot of that in the next 145 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,280 few episodes in the next in this first quarter coming up. 146 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,440 I, I talked to two professional skeptics and I got to tell you, 147 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,240 I think they ask the right questions. 148 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,760 You know, would they love to be proven wrong? 149 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,720 One of them, yes. One of them that's coming up he, 150 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,880 he's convinced he'll never be proven wrong, that it doesn't 151 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,280 exist. But it's good to hear from that 152 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,720 side. Another guy, Benjamin Radford, 153 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,680 who we have a just a great interview with Benjamin Rafford 154 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,240 is, you know, he's written numerous articles and books 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,440 questioning all this stuff. He's asking the right questions. 156 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,680 Those are good questions. Love it. 157 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,800 And then James Underdown is another skeptic we we talked to 158 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,000 super fun interview that's coming up. 159 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Another skeptic who's really in the paranormal world, but she 160 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,640 was like the ghost hunter who hates ghosts or, you know, 161 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,160 really doesn't believe what what's going on. 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,440 She even builds her own ghost gear and you may have seen her 163 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,200 around because she's very popular and been around. 164 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,560 Is Lauren Hellickson. She we got an episode with her 165 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,120 coming up and she I mean, she outright says she just doesn't 166 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,280 believe that they're there. But what is she doing? 167 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,240 She's creating things on her own and tech and from a science 168 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,680 space to ask those right questions. 169 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Does that make her a, you know, a hater? 170 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,440 No, not at all. I don't think so. 171 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,320 I think it's important if this is something, this is something 172 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,480 that's the people I've been meeting are super interesting 173 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,120 and I like how they go about it. And I like the people who 174 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,520 question and trying to get to the heart of the right, the 175 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,240 right questions to ask or the right tests, tests to ask or the 176 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,520 right experiments to do. And as some of our chat is 177 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,480 asking about here, where's that essence method? 178 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,520 That essence method is dropping in mid February. 179 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,360 We're going to do that as a as our one year. 180 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,120 So we did a group estus method for anyone who knows, doesn't 181 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,040 know what the estus method is. It's when you use sensory 182 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,960 deprivation and then you use a spirit box. 183 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,360 And this in our case, we use some apps, a bunch of different 184 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,840 apps. We were working with silence 185 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,800 activations, who does those silent discos so that everyone 186 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,160 could have a set of headphones on. 187 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,200 We learned a lot from it. That's going to be a fun 188 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,600 episode. We learned, you know, look, it 189 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,800 wasn't perfect. We didn't do everything right, 190 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,080 but when it worked, it was crazy. 191 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,760 We started out with 15 people, five people chickened out. 192 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,000 We lost one in the middle of it. They got freaked out. 193 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,240 But it's that's going to be a good episode and you're going 194 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,400 to. And we had, so we had about 195 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,960 10910 people all at the same time. 196 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,840 And you just can hear it's, you know, you hear when people say 197 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,360 different things, but when they're in unison and hearing 198 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,000 the same thing, wow. I mean, that's kind of weird. 199 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,720 And when it they're in unison saying the same thing in 200 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,760 response to a question, wow, that was weird. 201 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,040 And it happened, it happened more than once. 202 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,080 So keep your eye out for that. We're going to have a couple 203 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,200 more things coming down the road here where I'm more, we're more 204 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,120 out of the studio, if you will. Not that I would call this a 205 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,640 studio, but we're going to get out and about and what's fun we 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,880 are going to do. What else do we have on the 207 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,360 deck? On deck, man. 208 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,680 There's a lot of great guests coming up. 209 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,360 We've got some more ghost stories. 210 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,160 People have submitted. Guys, don't forget to submit 211 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,400 your ghost stories. I think everyone watching now, I 212 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,280 don't know if you've submitted or not, or maybe you have or you 213 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,920 don't have anything to tell or we've shared it already because 214 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,800 there's not that many of you online today, but that's fine. 215 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,800 But we're getting a few more submissions. 216 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,240 We want to keep doing that. Let me see, you're asking some 217 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:16,920 questions. Let's see. 218 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,360 Can we hear what they heard when you air it? 219 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,160 No, we, we cannot hear what they heard when you air it because 220 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,480 it's a mess. It just becomes an audible. 221 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:33,880 It's I had, I recorded what was playing for some of it, for not 222 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,600 the whole thing, but for some of it I did. 223 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,040 And then when I was editing it together, it is just, it's 224 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,200 already a cacophony of loud of people talking. 225 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,800 If I added in the sound from the app, it would just be like a 226 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,120 mess. And then it's really hard to 227 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,840 find. It's some, at some point, some, 228 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,560 some of the things when you hear the crowd yelling back, you 229 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:56,000 can't really make it out. I mean, if we ever do it again, 230 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,440 I would love to put them each in individual sound booths and all 231 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,040 that stuff and really do it up and then mic them individually 232 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,920 so I can hear what each person had to say. 233 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Because some people are louder than others. 234 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,560 Some people dominate the room, some people, you know. 235 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:10,480 So if I added the recordings from the actual apps, it would 236 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,400 just be a mess and we won't be able to hear it. 237 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,840 So that didn't work. We've got, we're also going to 238 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,200 do some fun things with John and I got John and I are going to do 239 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,160 a collab with another podcast. We're going to interview them 240 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,840 first and they're going to interview us. 241 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,600 That's happened at the end of January. 242 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:29,640 We've got an interview with Monique Too Soon. 243 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,520 If you don't know who Monique Too Soon is, she's a drag queen, 244 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:35,000 paranormal investigator, ghost hunter. 245 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:40,120 She goes out in full drag and investigates haunted houses and 246 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,280 it's at and it's, you know, we talk about energy reaction. 247 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,040 I mean, I think Kerr, I mean, this is a big person, big 248 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 personality. That energy in that costume, I 249 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,000 think brings out a lot of energy. 250 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,120 Now, is it bring out a lot of ghost energy or is it bringing 251 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,000 out does that, does she amplify everybody's vibe, right? 252 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Because like it's a party and does that create what they're 253 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,560 hearing? Super, super interesting, right? 254 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,200 What else? OK, All right, you guys want to 255 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,920 stick with SD's. All right, let's focus on this. 256 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,480 Could they all hear the same thing? 257 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:12,520 What? What are you asking? 258 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Can we hear what they hear? Answer that. 259 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Did they all hear different things? 260 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,440 No, they don't hear different things. 261 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,240 That's the point. They all hear the same thing. 262 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,080 That's why we gave them. That's why we're doing it. 263 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,040 If we, if they were all hearing different things, that wouldn't 264 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,600 make sense. We, we, we played the same app 265 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,440 to everyone. And then they shout out what 266 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,360 they hear. They can't hear the question. 267 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,280 So what's interesting about it is some people hear different 268 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,640 things, which proves the point of what John always talks about 269 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,920 audio paradores. You want to hear what you want 270 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,920 to hear. For example, you'll notice some 271 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,320 and when you see it, you'll see this. 272 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Some people hear their own name, right, more than other people. 273 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,520 They always yell out their own name, right? 274 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,880 So yes, Hale in particular, she heard Hale a lot, but she's 275 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,560 that's, that's the handle she goes by. 276 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,320 So she hears that a lot. Not a lot of people said Hale, 277 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,000 right? Some people said other things 278 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:06,880 sometimes, whereas some people heard and Lisa or Lisa, the 279 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,920 person who goes by the handle Mama Lisa heard Mama Lisa. 280 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,960 So it's really interesting how people still bring their own 281 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,200 thing into it when they hear it, if that makes sense. 282 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,560 But like I said, so it's you hear different things. 283 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,640 But like I said, when it's really interesting is when they 284 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,040 in unison say the same thing in response to a question that they 285 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,520 can't hear. And quite honestly, that not 286 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,040 even the app could hear it because we had to keep it low. 287 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,720 It's not like we could talk to the app. 288 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,000 I mean, we were like John, you know, John was talking into his 289 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,400 mic. John was talking into his mic 290 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,400 like this. You know, it's so it's like we 291 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,720 hear the audio really good from John, but it was like, you know, 292 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,600 hey, spirits, what is it blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 293 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,000 You know, so it's not like, you know, in the the app, he's 294 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,560 holding it in his hand, he's holding his mic. 295 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:52,560 So that's what's really, that's what's kind of fun when it, when 296 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,320 that happens. And I explained all this, when 297 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,640 we hear the episode, you'll see it, right? 298 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,560 So there's also the issue of, you know, they could hear each 299 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,360 other. So you'll hear somebody say 300 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,680 something sometimes and then everybody will then say it like 301 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:08,000 1/2 a second after, which tells me they were really, they 302 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,080 couldn't make out the word, but they just what it felt like, I 303 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,920 can't, I can't say this is what they did, but what it felt like 304 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,240 was they just heard the other person say it and then they 305 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,880 just, they yell it out, right? So like I said, it's flawed. 306 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,800 It's flawed, but it was interesting to see, right? 307 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,960 It was interesting to learn from. 308 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,520 I'd love to do it again. I'd love to get more people, but 309 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,160 it was super fun to try, Super fun to try. 310 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:31,720 I also have an episode coming up. 311 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,480 But all right, any other questions on the s s method? 312 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Because I keep moving on, but then I keep having to come back 313 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,800 or anybody there anybody interested in this? 314 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,560 What we did there, Liam yes, Lauren Hellickson will be a 315 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,560 guest wearing that in February. She was, she's so cool. 316 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,360 And I got to tell you, not one of my proudest moments. 317 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,440 She was like asking science questions that I should have 318 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,520 known if I like anybody who took basic elementary school science, 319 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,560 you didn't know the answer to. And I'm totally bombed. 320 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,920 And I choked and it was great. We had so much fun. 321 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,960 She's so smart. She's she's such good energy. 322 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,560 She's a wonderful guest. I hope you like Lauren, Liam, 323 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,400 But yes, she will be on the show. 324 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Killer, Killer personality. What else? 325 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,280 Anybody else have any other questions? 326 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,320 Yeah. She's so funny. 327 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Liam. She was great. 328 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 What's this? I'm also so close. 329 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Or possibly the. What are you saying here? 330 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,560 I'm also so close to hell. Or possible. 331 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,640 I see your name. Hail. 332 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,000 You're talking about your name. Gotcha. 333 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Gotcha. Let's see, I'm not quite sure 334 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,440 what you're saying here. Tell me what you did there. 335 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,560 I have to disregard. Or possibly the precipitation 336 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,160 hail for I have to disregard 90% of all my screen name comes 337 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,000 through. Tell what you did there. 338 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,240 I don't know what you're saying. Sorry. 339 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,080 Hell. My follow. 340 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,360 Check the new Kirk episode on Estes. 341 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,880 If you haven't. I will. 342 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,440 I will check it out. Liam. 343 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,920 What did they do? What did the new Kirk's do? 344 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Can you give me a brief description of what they did? 345 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,920 Did they do a big group thing? Oh, because we couldn't find 346 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,400 anybody who did. So I really enjoyed what we did. 347 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,480 It was really fun. I don't know who the new Kirks 348 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,000 are, by the way. I don't, I remember guys, I'm 349 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,720 new to this. I'm fairly new to this. 350 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,320 So I'm still learning. There's so many people. 351 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,520 What's really here's, here's what's great. 352 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,360 What's really wild is that in this past year now my algorithm 353 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,360 has changed. So my feed is popping up with 354 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,160 all of these people. Some of them have like millions 355 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,200 of a million YouTube followers, all this stuff. 356 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,040 I've never, I had no idea who these people were. 357 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,000 And it's really fun to watch them and see how they're doing 358 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,720 things. And then I immediately like, oh, 359 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,760 my God, I want to talk to you because I want to know what 360 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,280 you're doing and what you think of all this and, and play it up. 361 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,880 And we're getting a lot of good responses. 362 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,400 So, you know, hopefully we'll get a lot. 363 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,000 The creators of the method work on their show. 364 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,640 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. You know, listen, you know, I've 365 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,440 reached out to them to talk to them to give me an understanding 366 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,960 of how they came up with this idea. 367 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,720 I would love to have them on the podcast. 368 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Liam, the creators of the of the Estes method and yeah, one yes, 369 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,440 right, the news, one of the shooters, one of the creators 370 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,600 that I guess shoots their show. I've I've reached out to a lot 371 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,400 of people and try to get them on, but they haven't responded 372 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,280 yet. Hopefully, maybe as we grow and 373 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 as this gets more popular, they'll want to come on and tell 374 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,240 me what, tell me what to do and how they do it. 375 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,640 I will try to find that episode for sure. 376 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Thank you for pointing that out to me, Liam. 377 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,200 I appreciate it. Anything big an extra plan. 378 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,359 Let's see. So look, the Estes method run is 379 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,480 great. I I went out and got my and got 380 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,040 a coffee reading. Remember. 381 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,040 So from our look, the only psychic I'll ever go to is, you 382 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,599 know, get a reading live anyway, is Kathy Nadal because she did 383 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:25,720 the first one and we aired it. So anybody who I do a reading 384 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,920 with again, I'm going to wonder if they just watched that. 385 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:33,560 I'm going to be doubtful that they can tell me what it is. 386 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,200 So but Kathy wrote a book seeing more than clouds in your coffee. 387 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,640 It's another one on the book list. 388 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,360 If Chuck saw the book list. So I want so I went out and we 389 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:45,720 went to a coffee shop in New York and she gave me a coffee 390 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,360 reading. So I'm going to play that. 391 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,920 You know, you can read that, that that's kind of funny and 392 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,960 it's super fun. You know, I'm just, I was just 393 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,400 psyched that she didn't see my death in there, although she 394 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,800 did, guys. All right. 395 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,600 I've had a good run, you know, but I didn't see she didn't. 396 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,400 It was all possible. Yeah. 397 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Kathy is great. What else? 398 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,640 What else can I tell you? What else? 399 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,920 We got an episode coming about John's experience with the Brown 400 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Cemetery. It's going to take me a lot of 401 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,760 editing. It's a little more, you know, 402 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,360 it's a good story, what he did there. 403 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:19,400 A lot of you that are big fans of John, you know, all about the 404 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Brown Cemetery that he cleaned up a few years ago, the history 405 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,240 of that place. So I think that's a good story. 406 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,000 I think it's a people forget that John cares about that 407 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,120 stuff. You know, it's not all just 408 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,240 sitting in his apartment, but when it's raining and and 409 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,560 sitting in that old apartment when it's raining and listening 410 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,240 to, you know, spirit chatter and talking to you guys, it's, you 411 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,680 know, he he was out there and he cleaned that place up. 412 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,480 So I think that's a good story to tell. 413 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,440 Let's take a look at that list. What else we got? 414 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Oh yeah, I got a couple of good. I got AI don't like talking 415 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,280 about the people who I don't have episodes in the can with 416 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,800 yet. So I do have some other names. 417 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,040 Like I said, you know, if you guys don't know who Chip coffee 418 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,600 he is, chip coffee is he was on Paranormal state, he was on 419 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,240 Kindred spirits. He's been on TV's like years, 420 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,360 hundreds of episodes, you know, 100 episodes of different shows, 421 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,000 see multiple seasons of different shows, psychic mediums 422 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,720 been around. He's a fun one. 423 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,840 He's a fun guest, really knowledgeable. 424 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,200 He wrote a great, he wrote a great book too, but I'll talk 425 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,800 about that at my book list for 2026. 426 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Hopefully we're still around doing this at the end of the 427 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,600 year because of you guys, but that's going to air in mid 428 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,200 February as well. The chip coffee interview and 429 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,080 I've got another really popular paranormal psychic medium which 430 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,440 coming up. I got a few more crash courses 431 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,480 in the books for myself. I know some of you mentioned 432 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,720 what is it? Skrilling, shrilling, scrying, 433 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,720 skrilled, screwed, screwing. What is it? 434 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,680 What is that? It's the, you know, when you 435 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,680 look at, you know, crystal ball reading and shit like that, you 436 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,120 know, looking into black mirrors and stuff. 437 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,960 I've got a really great name in the field who's going to give me 438 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,000 a crash course on that and what that all means and how that came 439 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,960 about. So I don't want to say who it is 440 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,480 yet until it's in the can, but. What do you write? 441 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,320 He's a sassy diva who Chip Coffee. 442 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,640 Yeah, Let me tell you Chip Coffee. 443 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,080 I'll give you a little teaser on that. 444 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Yeah. He comes at me for being a 445 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,640 skeptic scrying. Yes, sorry, but yeah. 446 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Chip comes after me. He says, you know, like I don't 447 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,040 believe in any of this shit and comes at me. 448 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,000 I don't know what I said. I think as I questioned him 449 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,440 about his faith and his religion a little bit, he got a little 450 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,440 upset with me, but we ended at we it was still it's I'm saying 451 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,800 that loosely. He didn't get upset with me. 452 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,000 We had a good time. Chip is Chip is amazing. 453 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,800 It was unbelievably kind of him to be on this. 454 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,440 But he does come at me about it. I don't know whether he liked 455 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,400 being questioned or about certain things or not, but he's 456 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,960 got some incredible stories, incredible stories and just a 457 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,040 wealth of history in the space. So that's a fun interview. 458 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,240 And what else can I tell you? What else you guys want to know? 459 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,600 Well, we got our numbers are picking up here. 460 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,280 We got a few more bodies. Cindy Kazza, you want me to go 461 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:00,640 out? OK. 462 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,920 I don't know who that is. I should. 463 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,800 That sounds like somebody I should look into. 464 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Write this shit down now. See, you guys are giving me 465 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,360 names. You got to find a pen. 466 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,520 Guys, help me out. You know, you want to hear 467 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,720 somebody, see somebody, see something, say something, Right. 468 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,200 And of course, I don't have, like, a notebook here of any 469 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,720 kind or piece of paper. This is what happens with tech. 470 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,440 You get rid of paper. What's this? 471 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,080 I need that. Do I need this? 472 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,400 I need that for sure. I'll write on this envelope. 473 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,200 Cindy Kazza. I'll reach out to him. 474 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,960 We'll see if she'll do it. Oh, that's right. 475 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Yes, I wrote. Oh, sorry. 476 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,000 I must have wrote this down before. 477 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. 478 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,720 Well, I'll check her out. I will certainly check her out 479 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,760 and see if she will happy to do it. 480 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,000 Yeah. And. 481 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,360 And Liam, I will check out the new Kirk, see if they want to be 482 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,000 on who else? Anybody else? 483 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,200 What other fun things? What other fun things do you 484 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,840 guys want to see? I'm, I'm trying to go down that 485 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,120 list. I still have it, so don't worry 486 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,920 about that. Anyone, anyone. 487 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,480 What do you guys think John's learned from this past year? 488 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,920 He couldn't be here today. He had it's the holiday he's 489 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,040 spending with family. I get it. 490 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,600 But what do you think John has learned from being on this? 491 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,240 Curious what you guys think. You guys follow him religiously, 492 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,320 some of you? Or what do you think he should 493 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,600 learn from this? It's another question. 494 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,160 Two different questions. What, if anything, has John 495 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280 learned? And what, if anything, should he 496 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,160 have learned? We can ask him next time we see 497 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,560 him. We can bring up these questions 498 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,440 to him. Here's what the community says. 499 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,440 I may have an aura reader on deck. 500 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,400 Palm readings, huh? That's funny. 501 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,440 I got to do that in person. I guess I'll have to find 502 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,160 somebody local. Palm readers? 503 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:34,240 Aura readers. I wonder if they're one in the 504 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,000 same, they just like all around or is it like expert? 505 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,840 I got to get my I got to get a tarot card reading. 506 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,840 That's got to happen, right? We got to do that. 507 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,680 Who's the best tarot card reader? 508 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,880 That one I can probably do online or do I have to be in the 509 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,920 room? I don't know this. 510 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,040 I don't know the magic behind it. 511 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,680 I'm confused about demons versus spirits and if there's demons, 512 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,840 are there angels? I don't know if you can stop 513 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,280 smoking that weed. Sky boat. 514 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,800 I don't know what they are. I've had a few demonologists on. 515 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,160 I'll try to find I'll try to find somebody and maybe dive 516 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,360 into that more. I had a professor on talk about 517 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:07,120 Satan, but there's definitely more about the biblical aspect 518 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:09,840 of all this that I I would, I love to get into. 519 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,200 I would love it. Yeah. 520 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,560 A lot of people are digging around the quantum thing, so 521 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,640 we're playing in that space. That ringing is not like an 522 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,280 Angel getting its wings. That's my Ring doorbell, guys. 523 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,920 If you hear that in the background, I don't know if it's 524 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,360 blocked, but if you hear that ringing, that's. 525 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,640 Yeah, that's not what that means. 526 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,720 That just means someone's messing around my front door. 527 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,080 What else can we talk about today? 528 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,920 It's a real loose episode. It's the holiday, folks. 529 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,160 People are just chilling. No one's around. 530 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,160 So anyway, let's talk about Tuesday's episode. 531 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,440 Why don't we do that? Wait. 532 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,280 Ned's wait. I'm sorry. 533 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,480 What does that say? Ned's Soderquist. 534 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Nita. Sorry. 535 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Hold on. Let me pull this up. 536 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,040 Let me get this closer. Nita Soderquist, what is that V 537 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,240 solder kvist? What is she good? 538 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,880 Good at what? What does Nita do? 539 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,480 I'm writing all this shit down guys. 540 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,280 I look to use to be my Nita Soderquist. 541 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,960 I'll check that person. I'm check all these out. 542 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,800 I'll look into all these folks that you recommend that you like 543 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,880 to listen to. I don't know. 544 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,640 Does anybody know who the blue Bodie is? 545 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,280 The Blue Bodie is going to be a guest. 546 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,560 He's got a pretty big following. Sorry for the long silent pauses 547 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,520 as I read the chat. Talk to you all today about the 548 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,720 future of splintered spirits. So look, I'll come back to these 549 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,680 questions. So let's talk about the 550 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,120 immediate future. Tuesday we have a brand new 551 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:25,160 episode with Matthew Botsford. Matthew Botsford was shot in the 552 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,960 head, flatlined and had a distressed near death experience 553 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,160 where he went to hell and came back from it. 554 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,120 It is an incredible wild story. It's you know, some people they 555 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:40,520 have they get shot in the head or not. 556 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,840 When some people get shot in the head. 557 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,680 Some people when they have a near death experience, it's you 558 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,560 know, they see the light and they see like the grandma and 559 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,840 it's like, oh, you know, it's like everything's great and we 560 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,800 miss you, but it's not your time. 561 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Go back, right, All that stuff. This is not that thing. 562 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:04,760 So with Matthew, he got hit by a in a, in a violent act drive by 563 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,280 that wasn't meant for him. You know, it was just caught in 564 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,560 the crossfire of something coming out of a restaurant in 565 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,000 Atlanta. Took a bullet to the head flat 566 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,440 lined several times, but had an absolutely horrific experience. 567 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,120 And he's going to tell his story. 568 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,280 We're going to talk about it, how his life changed from that. 569 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,520 It's a guy who got scared straight, but for, you know, for 570 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,080 real. And sometimes I got to tell you 571 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,960 like, you know, between us, just between us. 572 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,000 I think it's so fascinating, right? 573 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,640 Like he feels he's a better person now, but it wasn't 574 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,640 because he saw God, right? It was like in a weird way in 575 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:50,080 his for him going to hell is what made him a better person. 576 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,560 Think about that for a second. It took it took like the devil 577 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,200 straightened him out in a weird way. 578 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,560 So what's that about? It's really interesting, right? 579 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,880 He turned his life around just by seeing him. 580 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,160 So I thought I was just sleeping when I had mine. 581 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,400 Well, you know, this is a really interesting thing about sleep. 582 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:18,480 You know, most people, whether it's an alien abduction or 583 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,080 seeing apparitions, it tends to happen in that moment of for a 584 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,440 lot of people when they're drowsy and sleepy. 585 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,920 Where does the mind go? Where does consciousness go? 586 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,320 That doesn't make it unreal, That doesn't make it total 587 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,320 bullshit, but it certainly creates a scenario where you're, 588 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,160 you're wondering like, OK, well, what's really happening again? 589 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,680 Is it your, is that a just your minds freed up because you're 590 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,840 sleeping? Is it a consciousness thing? 591 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,880 I don't know the answer. I guess that's why we do that. 592 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,960 That's why we're doing this thing, trying to find out those 593 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,440 questions, the answers to those questions. 594 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,920 But yeah, back to Matt. Matt's great. 595 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,560 I've talked to Matt. I've known Matt for a while. 596 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,640 He's it, it is a classic. Listen, I and I've, I know other 597 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,640 stories of near death experiences, especially they're 598 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,880 called distressed near death experiences. 599 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,240 So the numbers are something like 10% of people who flatline 600 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,120 have a near death experience like this where they have 601 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:13,600 visions of all the people who flatline and, and return, 10% 602 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320 have been, you know, it's a small number have a near death 603 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,560 experience and then a smaller number of those have a 604 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800 distressed near death experience. 605 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,880 That distressed experience, you know, for Matthew is like sort 606 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,240 of classic Dante's Inferno, 7th level of health sort of thing, 607 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,320 right? He saw the demons, he saw lava, 608 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,720 he saw fire and brimstone, which is why it's a wild story and 609 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,560 just live through pain. And you know, and to him, you 610 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,480 know, the love of his family and his wife and prayer brought him 611 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,720 back. And it's a great, you know, it's 612 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,680 it's it's an interesting sort of perspective on the afterlife of 613 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,080 what he thinks it is that as we paint our put together our 614 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,720 tapestry of what this is to get that perspective right. 615 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,800 And that point of view that drops Tuesday is what ability? 616 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,360 Where do we go? Oh, I don't know, man. 617 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,600 I don't know what Billie Eilish has to say about stuff. 618 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,400 I know she and a ghost tell her to come out splendid spirits. 619 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,440 You had a near death, but it was positive. 620 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Lost my lost your psychic ability now. 621 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,800 All right. I don't know what your real name 622 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,160 is. Fermom Liz. 623 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Fermom, Liz just wrote, I'm going to show this. 624 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,720 I had a near death experience, but it was positive. 625 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,960 I lost my psychic ability. Now that is really strange 626 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,960 because so many people claim that near death experience has 627 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,800 strengthened their ability. And for you, you lost it, huh? 628 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,120 I find that wild. That's an interesting thing. 629 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,880 I don't know who you can even talk to about that. 630 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,600 I feel like if it was a Marvel, Marvel movie, you'd have to go 631 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,240 through some superhero trials to get your powers back right like 632 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,320 that. It's Superman, his powers back. 633 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,160 I don't really know the answer, but what's the percentage of 634 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,640 having a nothing experience? Just do the math. 635 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,360 If I told you 10% of the people who flatline have a near death 636 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,920 experience, that means 90% have a nothing experience. 637 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,240 Let's go. I wasn't. 638 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,240 That wasn't rocket science. Maybe it's hidden. 639 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,840 I don't know. Maybe it's hidden. 640 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,600 You know, I don't know. Well, then you got to figure out 641 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,040 how to get your figure out. Stella got her groove back 642 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,680 somehow. Maybe Liz, you can get yours 643 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,400 back. I would not recommend trying for 644 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,840 another near death experience though in the hopes of getting 645 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,840 your psychic ability back. That's not not the way to do it. 646 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,320 Do not try that. The psychic capital of the world 647 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,720 is Cassadaga, Florida. Is that near Sarasota, FL? 648 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,560 Where is Cassadaga Florida is that? 649 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Why is there most psychics live there? 650 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,000 Because then what you're telling me is though, if you're telling 651 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,440 me that most if you're near Sarasota, Sarasota is where all 652 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,920 the let's like Ringling brothers, that's where the 653 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:49,120 carnies are. So if Cassadaga is near there, I 654 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,280 don't know if that's all. It's just might be a lot of 655 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,000 people who claim to be psychic. I think if you want to go to a 656 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160 psychic, you got to go to you got to go to a real go to 657 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,680 somebody credited like Cafe and have a talk. 658 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,320 People who have been, you know, put in the work. 659 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,320 I don't know. Cassadigas, Cassadiga, Florida, 660 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,440 like a capital of the world. I didn't know that was a thing. 661 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,720 I just continued to learn. Let's see. 662 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160 Hey, guys. Renee Damn, what's up? 663 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,640 Insta Of course it's Florida. Look, at least it's not 664 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,480 Pennsylvania. The thing about Kathy Nadal is 665 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960 her credit, her accreditation comes through the Forever Family 666 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,040 Foundation, which you may have heard about them, if not from 667 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200 me, which we did an interview with the guy who started it, 668 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,600 Robert Ginsberg, but it was also featured. 669 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,720 He was also featured on the Therapy Tapes, which is an 670 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,640 amazing podcast. I mean, it's like what it's, I 671 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,440 think it was the best one, the biggest one this year that 672 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,640 exploded. They are really, they do a real 673 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200 grilling of people who claim to be psychic. 674 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:54,080 And if you get accredited from them, I believe then you are 675 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,720 probably a high level intuitive and you are very good at what 676 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,920 you do. You know, I would say you're a 677 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,440 real psychic for sure. What about people who claim 678 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,600 vivid past life memories? What about them? 679 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,200 I don't know what you're, I don't understand your question. 680 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,280 Are they real people? I don't know. 681 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,640 I don't know what you mean by what about is that just like, do 682 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,200 I think they're lying or or not? And I don't, I don't think 683 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,440 anybody's ever lying. I think people believe what they 684 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,480 believe. Oh, you mean for a, for a show? 685 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,040 What about people who claim vivid past life memories? 686 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,520 I guess the only reason I, you know why, well, I, I, I would 687 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,760 have to find the point of hearing someone's past life 688 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,800 story, right? I mean, I, I, I understand, I 689 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,480 like hearing from like AQHHT, which I did. 690 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,040 You know what I did that interview about past life 691 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,840 regression I've done, you know, we did two of them and the 692 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,520 Akashic records and all that stuff. 693 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,000 And you know, a random story of just someone telling their 694 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,040 random story of a past life. I guess I'd have to know more 695 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,960 detail about it, right. Like, you know, I can interview 696 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,720 with a ton of people with near death experiences, but Matt's 697 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,560 story is one I've got, you know, like the like the man was shot 698 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,680 in the head. I have his X-ray. 699 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,440 You'll see it. There's a bullet sitting in his 700 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,880 head. I mean, he flat lined. 701 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,040 It's a real legit story. So hearing it from him and how 702 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,080 vivid it is and telling about it is really interesting. 703 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,800 And yeah, I no, no. And, and listen, I appreciate 704 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,920 the brainstorm, but it's like, you know, and I'm just 705 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,880 brainstorming back. It's a if, if we're going to 706 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,560 tell stories of people who had a past like this is you've you got 707 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,200 to hear Jane or John Smith's past life regression story 708 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,880 because this like that's what I need to know to make it to do 709 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,120 it, to want to do a show about it. 710 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Like what is it about that here's you know, it's like, you 711 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,640 know, maybe the way to do it. I guess that, you know, we'd be 712 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,920 really interesting to do, but I don't know what the rules are 713 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,000 because there's some real, there's people who study 714 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,520 children. I'm trying here. 715 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,360 I've been really trying to reach out to Dopps, the department of 716 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,160 what is it, Paranormal science at Virginia Tech. 717 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,920 They do real studies of children who claim to have past life 718 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,880 experience. That to me is more interesting 719 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,440 than just some guy or girl woman's past life story. 720 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400 So like, you know, to hear how does a child know some 721 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,160 information like that? And there's there's apparently 722 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,600 that's a thing. And like kids do. 723 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440 So that to me, I would do, I'd have to get a parent's 724 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,280 permission to do it. Oh yeah, like you said, right? 725 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,800 The little boy who completely described his past, like, yeah, 726 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,040 right. That's what. 727 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,040 So yeah, we're saying now we're talking the same now we're 728 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,280 talking the same language. Yes, I think a kid I would do if 729 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,120 I can get some kid in their parent on I got to find that kid 730 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,440 in their parent. That would be fun. 731 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,720 That would be interesting. And then talk about how they 732 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,800 knew that. What do they think they're 733 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,960 dealing with? Right? 734 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,520 That's interesting, but I don't think I would just do some rando 735 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,000 adult like telling their story. I mean, you know, look, people 736 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,840 are out there like they're having past life experiences 737 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,120 about in other because remember past life, if you believe in 738 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,200 what past life is a misnomer, right? 739 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,960 It's not about like, hey, I was a bartender 100 years ago. 740 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,000 No, it means it's what they believe it is, is alternate 741 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,840 universes like it's Everything Everywhere all at once. 742 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,720 It's like, so if you see that movie, that's what they think it 743 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,400 is. So you are living as a bartender 744 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,239 right now, but in a different timeline. 745 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,520 It's not 100 years ago. Oh, I mean, and there's people 746 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,840 who have past life experiences where they're, you know, they're 747 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,320 hobbits in the Shire. I don't know what that's about. 748 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,000 I don't know if how much I, how much I, I just don't. 749 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,639 What's the connection is that? I mean, a man made that up, you 750 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,280 know, a man made, you know, Gerard Tolkin made-up that 751 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,159 world. So how do you have, how is there 752 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,840 an alternate timeline where that exists? 753 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,000 I don't know. I don't know what that that 754 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,239 means. So but a kid talking about 755 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,239 things that couldn't possibly, couldn't possibly know and you 756 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,239 know that that is. That's interesting. 757 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,840 Yeah, I guess that's interesting. 758 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,040 I would do that. I could look into that. 759 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,920 And how does it relate to spirit communications, all that stuff? 760 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,320 That's cool. What else, guys? 761 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,640 What else do you want to know? This is a fun chat. 762 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,960 I like how active you are being involved. 763 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,360 Don't forget to like share, subscribe, please, please, 764 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,280 please. The comments are good, They're 765 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,360 helpful. They push it, but you're not 766 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,600 going to see this on most other podcasts. 767 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,560 I mean, they, they don't do interviews like this. 768 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,400 They're all very like all, they're all on the same page, I 769 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,200 should say. And not that we aren't not that 770 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,640 we're not believers, but I think we asked sort of just the right 771 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,600 amount of questions to, you know, push an envelope here too, 772 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,240 to sort of get that going in a fun way. 773 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,240 People take themselves very seriously also in this space. 774 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,280 And I respect that. But I think you have to 775 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,680 recognize what space we're talking about and enjoy it as 776 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,360 well. All right, folks, there's no 777 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,320 other questions, no other comments. 778 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,400 Again, please like, share and subscribe on Tuesday, January 779 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,280 6th. Hell Bound with Matthew 780 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,600 Botsford, a great, great episode, really interesting. 781 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,360 If you want to watch it sooner than Tuesday, by all means 782 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,200 subscribe to our YouTube channel and you can get episodes a week 783 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,320 in advance. After Matt is our Lauren 784 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,320 Hellickson episode 2 weeks after that, but but you can get it 785 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,400 early if you subscribe. I will drop that the day before 786 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,040 Matt drops. We'll be out there in the 787 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,320 universe. These are all facts, fun facts, 788 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,200 fun facts, but other than that, guys, I think I'm going to 789 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560 split. Yep, for mom Liz belief and 790 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,280 healthy skepticism. These are all these are all 791 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,600 important. I think if, you know, I I just 792 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,160 don't know how anybody could be so matter of fact about things 793 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,520 in this space. And they're just so like, this 794 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,600 is what it is. And if you don't believe me, you 795 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,720 know, then, you know, like, I don't want to hear from you. 796 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,040 I mean, that's really, nobody should be like that about 797 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,400 anything. So that's the weird part, you 798 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,320 know? All right, guys. 799 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,360 Yeah. This is a real loose, loose Q&A 800 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,680 little wrap up of 2025. Wait, Speaking of wrap up, just 801 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,280 before we go, one more thing. What was everybody's favorite, 802 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,040 everybody on here? What was your favorite episode 803 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,240 of 2025? Can you think of 1? 804 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680 And I'm betting some of you haven't watched them all. 805 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,080 And if you have, you haven't, you're still on vacation, You 806 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,400 still might still have a few days off. 807 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,920 You got plenty of time to binge. But for those who have watched 808 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,360 everyone, what's your favorite so far? 809 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,120 I kind of want to know before I go. 810 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,760 I will give you a few moments to respond. 811 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,600 What's up, Instagram? Thank you for tuning in, 812 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,720 checking us out. We're here on splintered spirits 813 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,920 talking about, you know, what to do in 2026, about ghosts, 814 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,120 anyone. What was your favorite? 815 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,040 Let's hear it. The fireplace room. 816 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,400 Guys, I forgot to tell you, I have a less edited version of 817 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,960 that episode with video ready to drop, and I haven't decided when 818 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,160 I'm going to drop it yet. Maybe on its one year 819 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,800 anniversary. But I have it. 820 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,600 It's all in the can. It's ready to go. 821 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,280 That one was only audio, but yeah, we've got with video the 822 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,320 full thing. Wow. 823 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,680 You liked Joseph Laycock, the professor about the devil. 824 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,040 That's a great. That's fun. 825 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,600 I'm glad. Which cat? 826 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,080 We did 3-3. Kathy's great when she gives me 827 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,560 a reading. I bet you like that one better. 828 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160 And then, oh, yeah, Rosie Grant. That was a fun one. 829 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,120 That was a little different for us, but it's a point out how 830 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,440 people's connection to the past, right. 831 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,720 Still lives. That's a good one. 832 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:52,680 I think. It's still fun. 833 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,040 I think. I think that one was more 834 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,040 because, you know, we did that episode with Rosie Grant, which 835 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:02,160 was less about spirits obviously and more about cemeteries 836 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,280 because John is such an A love for them and affiliation and for 837 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,960 for me. I never, I have, you know what 838 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,000 John does cleaning headstones. You know, he was the I think the 839 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,600 first guy to do that that I've ever seen. 840 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,800 It's the most unique thing I've seen in cemetery. 841 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:22,400 And Rosie, what Rosie did with this was what she does with how 842 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,480 she traveled the country and even the world looking for 843 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,720 recipes I found to be completely unique and an appreciation for 844 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,800 headstones. So that I was so, so glad that 845 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,000 she was. She came on our podcast. 846 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,560 I mean, this is a woman who went on Kelly Clarkson, right? 847 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,160 I mean, it's like a hit show. And then she comes on Splendid 848 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,080 spirits and honored to give us some time. 849 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,000 I mean, that was so unbelievably kind of her. 850 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,840 Oh, the Italian witch. You know, it's one of our top. 851 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,560 Yeah. She's funny, right? 852 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,720 Lori Bruno, the Italian witch, the Salem witch. 853 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,120 She was a trip. I mean, she spoke at like, which 854 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,360 speaks. She had the whole thing dialed 855 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,920 down. That was really fun. 856 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,840 Yeah. For sure. 857 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,680 Yeah. Lori. 858 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,760 Lori Bruno. It's a good one. 859 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,520 Definitely. I love that. 860 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,200 Yeah. It's a good variety out there. 861 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,240 It's funny, man. No, like, not everyone's saying 862 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,320 the exact same thing. Huh? 863 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,920 That's pretty crazy. All right, well, listen guys, 864 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,200 now I'm going to jump. But again, thank you so much for 865 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,600 watching Splinter Spirits. Thank you for sticking with us. 866 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,280 If you have not seen or caught up on any of the latest 867 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,760 episodes, please by all means do so. 868 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,480 And we've got a new episode on Tuesday. 869 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,200 Be sure to like, share and subscribe. 870 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,440 Help us keep these numbers going up. 871 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,000 We want to keep doing this. We want we want to do more. 872 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,960 We want to get bigger and better. 873 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,160 Guess the only way we can keep doing that is we keep these 874 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,240 numbers going. So by all means, tell your 875 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:42,120 friends, share it, forward it, comment, comment, comment, 876 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,760 comment, comment on Spotify, comment on YouTube, comment on 877 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,200 Facebook, share on Facebook. If you got 100, listen, our 878 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,200 Facebook page isn't that big, but some of you have, you know, 879 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,440 bigger followings on Facebook. Make sure you tell all your 880 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,480 friends like guys, you got to follow this share it. 881 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,640 We want to grow. We want to grow big in 2026. 882 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,040 All right, I appreciate your time. 883 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,840 Stay tuned again Tuesday new episode. 884 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,840 Stay curious everybody. Thank you so much. 885 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,360 We appreciate it. Well, that's it for another 886 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,440 episode of Splintered spirits. Be sure to like, share and 887 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,720 subscribe to our YouTube channel, Spotify or wherever you 888 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,320 get your podcasts. Until next time, stay curious.