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What is the chat saying? Release the Estes files, Gary.
That's funny. That's coming.
That's what we'll talk about today, folks.
What's coming? What's been?
Let's give some folks a chance to come on in.
Anyway, welcome to Splintered Spirits.
Got a handful of you. I know it's the holiday.
Probably won't see a lot of you and we won't stay on for very
long. And happy New Year to you.
What's up, Instagram? How do we get a little more
centered for you folks? See.
How's that? I know it's weird.
Little halvesies try to figure this out.
Maybe my camera shifted. I know my ass didn't move.
Did the camera move? It's possible we moved
everything over. Did I get farther away from you
or did we get dead on accurate? It's hard to say.
I like how I have you guys here with me as I work out these
technical issues on our lives. You're like, you look centered
to me, guys. But yeah, but I have this on on
a portrait mode, and it's on Instagram, and that always makes
it look a little weird because it's like, I'm half in it and
half not in it. And I guess I got to go over
this way, but that seems stupid. I think that looks like magic.
And if it's not good, that's as good as it's going to get.
Boop, beep. And there it is.
That's better. Guys.
How are you? Welcome to Splintered Spirits
live again for the 15th time if you're on Instagram joining us.
Hey, I hope everyone had a safe and wonderful holiday and don't.
Thanks. Yeah, yeah, don't move.
You did it enough. We don't want to see the camera
moving around anymore. What can I tell you?
Things get knocked around. So that's what happens.
Guys. Thanks for joining us So what
can we talk about today? We'll be we'll keep it quick.
We just want to touch base for the holiday because we just
ended the year and we're starting literally a brand new
one on splintered spirits. And if you haven't caught up, we
had a bunch of new episodes drop over in the month of December.
We had a good week. So we had Beck Ravenswood, the
witch who fought back. We had James Anito the
demonologist, and I'm getting old.
Who else was our other crazy guest?
We had three good apps. I'll tell you in a second.
Or can you tell me this is a quiz to see who's been watching.
Anyone. Anyone.
Marie Jackson, she was our live guest.
She was wild. She was really fun.
Man, that was an interesting one.
And it goes to show what I've learned and sort of done this
whole year with this thing which I find really fun, which I think
the number one question people would have is, you know, so
Gary, do you think Ghost exists? And I would say that do I think
ghosts exist? I don't know what's happening.
I do think something is happening, right?
And I think what you're going to see, we've learned.
What I've learned in the past year is I don't know what these
coincidences, what what happens here and what's going on.
I am leaning more into my nephew's theory of memory
imprints. I'm very curious of what
consciousness is. I don't know if what we're
talking to are ghosts or we're picking up the memories of, of
what people have of these people who have passed.
Are mediums real? I think they are more intuitive
than most people. Can that tuition intuition be
taught? Maybe.
I don't know. They all say that yes, everyone
can do it. I don't know.
I think everyone could be taught to be a charlatan, but I don't
think anybody with a real gift can be taught to have a real
gift, right? I mean, everybody, you can
probably practice and be a good magician, but you know, that
doesn't make magic real. But I think there are mediums
out there who are more intuitive than others and legit.
And I think they pick up on things.
Now, what are they picking up on?
Are they picking up on the dead? I don't know the answer.
I just don't know the answer to that.
And might they be picking up on, not to get woo, woo at this
word, energy, right? But are they picking up on the
energy of other people and the memories of other people?
Guys, I don't know. But if I've heard first hand and
seen things that are too frequent for coincidence.
And how about we leave it at that and we're going to find out
more. And I think what we're trying to
do is I'm trying to learn about asking all the right questions.
And, you know, I gave a list of the books that I've read, if you
haven't, I dropped them on our socials, like a video of all the
books that we read that I've read to try to learn about this
stuff. And I find them very, I think if
you're into this for real, you should read them.
And one of my favorites, and it's probably one of the biggest
skeptics, is this book by Carl Sagan, The Demon Haunted World.
And why do I think it's so important?
Not that I'm turning this into a book lesson, but there's a
chapter in here that's really relevant that I think is really
relevant. Or this the title of it in and
of itself, which is super cool if I could find it and get to it
right away. Otherwise, I'm not going to sit
here and flip through books. But it's.
Yeah, Yeah. Here it goes.
So it's called, he calls it. What was it?
Oh, the marriage of skepticism and wonder.
And I felt like that phrase really stood out to me in the
whole year that I've been. That sums up this sort of year
that I've had doing this, which is the that marriage between
skepticism and wonder. Because here's the thing, guys,
you can't be a scientist, a real scientist.
And I'm not saying I'm one. I'm not saying that's it.
But even real scientists, not pseudoscientists or
parascientists, grade A scientists have an imagination.
They're wondering what is the, what is their, what are they
trying to figure out, right? And then they create all these
tests and then theories to prove these theories.
They're out of their mind theories, right?
And then they try to do all these things to prove those
theories. That doesn't make them.
But because they're talking about probably mostly like in
the world of physics or science that we have somewhat of a
handle on, it's not as dismissed as frequently as parascience
would be. But I think the same rules
apply. I think being able to ask the
right questions and figuring out what we can do to test what's
happening in the parascience field doesn't make you a
debunker or a disbeliever. It makes you actually more of a
believer than people who are just like, this is all real.
And then they just float with it.
Those people I, I want, I would, I wouldn't mind trying to figure
out how to scam because you can't separate a fool from their
money any faster than that. So wouldn't it be just great to
scam those guys if they're so gullible?
But I think if you're really into this, you should be asking
questions. You shouldn't take everything at
face value, and you should try to figure out what a healthy way
to go about talking to people with different opinions is.
Or learn. I think I've got a, a good
handle on what to ask and when to ask it and who to ask.
There's a lot of people on deck that you're going to see.
I think you're, we're going to see a lot of that in the next
few episodes in the next in this first quarter coming up.
I, I talked to two professional skeptics and I got to tell you,
I think they ask the right questions.
You know, would they love to be proven wrong?
One of them, yes. One of them that's coming up he,
he's convinced he'll never be proven wrong, that it doesn't
exist. But it's good to hear from that
side. Another guy, Benjamin Radford,
who we have a just a great interview with Benjamin Rafford
is, you know, he's written numerous articles and books
questioning all this stuff. He's asking the right questions.
Those are good questions. Love it.
And then James Underdown is another skeptic we we talked to
super fun interview that's coming up.
Another skeptic who's really in the paranormal world, but she
was like the ghost hunter who hates ghosts or, you know,
really doesn't believe what what's going on.
She even builds her own ghost gear and you may have seen her
around because she's very popular and been around.
Is Lauren Hellickson. She we got an episode with her
coming up and she I mean, she outright says she just doesn't
believe that they're there. But what is she doing?
She's creating things on her own and tech and from a science
space to ask those right questions.
Does that make her a, you know, a hater?
No, not at all. I don't think so.
I think it's important if this is something, this is something
that's the people I've been meeting are super interesting
and I like how they go about it. And I like the people who
question and trying to get to the heart of the right, the
right questions to ask or the right tests, tests to ask or the
right experiments to do. And as some of our chat is
asking about here, where's that essence method?
That essence method is dropping in mid February.
We're going to do that as a as our one year.
So we did a group estus method for anyone who knows, doesn't
know what the estus method is. It's when you use sensory
deprivation and then you use a spirit box.
And this in our case, we use some apps, a bunch of different
apps. We were working with silence
activations, who does those silent discos so that everyone
could have a set of headphones on.
We learned a lot from it. That's going to be a fun
episode. We learned, you know, look, it
wasn't perfect. We didn't do everything right,
but when it worked, it was crazy.
We started out with 15 people, five people chickened out.
We lost one in the middle of it. They got freaked out.
But it's that's going to be a good episode and you're going
to. And we had, so we had about
10910 people all at the same time.
And you just can hear it's, you know, you hear when people say
different things, but when they're in unison and hearing
the same thing, wow. I mean, that's kind of weird.
And when it they're in unison saying the same thing in
response to a question, wow, that was weird.
And it happened, it happened more than once.
So keep your eye out for that. We're going to have a couple
more things coming down the road here where I'm more, we're more
out of the studio, if you will. Not that I would call this a
studio, but we're going to get out and about and what's fun we
are going to do. What else do we have on the
deck? On deck, man.
There's a lot of great guests coming up.
We've got some more ghost stories.
People have submitted. Guys, don't forget to submit
your ghost stories. I think everyone watching now, I
don't know if you've submitted or not, or maybe you have or you
don't have anything to tell or we've shared it already because
there's not that many of you online today, but that's fine.
But we're getting a few more submissions.
We want to keep doing that. Let me see, you're asking some
questions. Let's see.
Can we hear what they heard when you air it?
No, we, we cannot hear what they heard when you air it because
it's a mess. It just becomes an audible.
It's I had, I recorded what was playing for some of it, for not
the whole thing, but for some of it I did.
And then when I was editing it together, it is just, it's
already a cacophony of loud of people talking.
If I added in the sound from the app, it would just be like a
mess. And then it's really hard to
find. It's some, at some point, some,
some of the things when you hear the crowd yelling back, you
can't really make it out. I mean, if we ever do it again,
I would love to put them each in individual sound booths and all
that stuff and really do it up and then mic them individually
so I can hear what each person had to say.
Because some people are louder than others.
Some people dominate the room, some people, you know.
So if I added the recordings from the actual apps, it would
just be a mess and we won't be able to hear it.
So that didn't work. We've got, we're also going to
do some fun things with John and I got John and I are going to do
a collab with another podcast. We're going to interview them
first and they're going to interview us.
That's happened at the end of January.
We've got an interview with Monique Too Soon.
If you don't know who Monique Too Soon is, she's a drag queen,
paranormal investigator, ghost hunter.
She goes out in full drag and investigates haunted houses and
it's at and it's, you know, we talk about energy reaction.
I mean, I think Kerr, I mean, this is a big person, big
personality. That energy in that costume, I
think brings out a lot of energy.
Now, is it bring out a lot of ghost energy or is it bringing
out does that, does she amplify everybody's vibe, right?
Because like it's a party and does that create what they're
hearing? Super, super interesting, right?
What else? OK, All right, you guys want to
stick with SD's. All right, let's focus on this.
Could they all hear the same thing?
What? What are you asking?
Can we hear what they hear? Answer that.
Did they all hear different things?
No, they don't hear different things.
That's the point. They all hear the same thing.
That's why we gave them. That's why we're doing it.
If we, if they were all hearing different things, that wouldn't
make sense. We, we, we played the same app
to everyone. And then they shout out what
they hear. They can't hear the question.
So what's interesting about it is some people hear different
things, which proves the point of what John always talks about
audio paradores. You want to hear what you want
to hear. For example, you'll notice some
and when you see it, you'll see this.
Some people hear their own name, right, more than other people.
They always yell out their own name, right?
So yes, Hale in particular, she heard Hale a lot, but she's
that's, that's the handle she goes by.
So she hears that a lot. Not a lot of people said Hale,
right? Some people said other things
sometimes, whereas some people heard and Lisa or Lisa, the
person who goes by the handle Mama Lisa heard Mama Lisa.
So it's really interesting how people still bring their own
thing into it when they hear it, if that makes sense.
But like I said, so it's you hear different things.
But like I said, when it's really interesting is when they
in unison say the same thing in response to a question that they
can't hear. And quite honestly, that not
even the app could hear it because we had to keep it low.
It's not like we could talk to the app.
I mean, we were like John, you know, John was talking into his
mic. John was talking into his mic
like this. You know, it's so it's like we
hear the audio really good from John, but it was like, you know,
hey, spirits, what is it blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, so it's not like, you know, in the the app, he's
holding it in his hand, he's holding his mic.
So that's what's really, that's what's kind of fun when it, when
that happens. And I explained all this, when
we hear the episode, you'll see it, right?
So there's also the issue of, you know, they could hear each
other. So you'll hear somebody say
something sometimes and then everybody will then say it like
1/2 a second after, which tells me they were really, they
couldn't make out the word, but they just what it felt like, I
can't, I can't say this is what they did, but what it felt like
was they just heard the other person say it and then they
just, they yell it out, right? So like I said, it's flawed.
It's flawed, but it was interesting to see, right?
It was interesting to learn from.
I'd love to do it again. I'd love to get more people, but
it was super fun to try, Super fun to try.
I also have an episode coming up.
But all right, any other questions on the s s method?
Because I keep moving on, but then I keep having to come back
or anybody there anybody interested in this?
What we did there, Liam yes, Lauren Hellickson will be a
guest wearing that in February. She was, she's so cool.
And I got to tell you, not one of my proudest moments.
She was like asking science questions that I should have
known if I like anybody who took basic elementary school science,
you didn't know the answer to. And I'm totally bombed.
And I choked and it was great. We had so much fun.
She's so smart. She's she's such good energy.
She's a wonderful guest. I hope you like Lauren, Liam,
But yes, she will be on the show.
Killer, Killer personality. What else?
Anybody else have any other questions?
Yeah. She's so funny.
Liam. She was great.
What's this? I'm also so close.
Or possibly the. What are you saying here?
I'm also so close to hell. Or possible.
I see your name. Hail.
You're talking about your name. Gotcha.
Let's see, I'm not quite sure
what you're saying here. Tell me what you did there.
I have to disregard. Or possibly the precipitation
hail for I have to disregard 90% of all my screen name comes
through. Tell what you did there.
I don't know what you're saying. Sorry.
Hell. My follow.
Check the new Kirk episode on Estes.
If you haven't. I will.
I will check it out. Liam.
What did they do? What did the new Kirk's do?
Can you give me a brief description of what they did?
Did they do a big group thing? Oh, because we couldn't find
anybody who did. So I really enjoyed what we did.
It was really fun. I don't know who the new Kirks
are, by the way. I don't, I remember guys, I'm
new to this. I'm fairly new to this.
So I'm still learning. There's so many people.
What's really here's, here's what's great.
What's really wild is that in this past year now my algorithm
has changed. So my feed is popping up with
all of these people. Some of them have like millions
of a million YouTube followers, all this stuff.
I've never, I had no idea who these people were.
And it's really fun to watch them and see how they're doing
things. And then I immediately like, oh,
my God, I want to talk to you because I want to know what
you're doing and what you think of all this and, and play it up.
And we're getting a lot of good responses.
So, you know, hopefully we'll get a lot.
The creators of the method work on their show.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. You know, listen, you know, I've
reached out to them to talk to them to give me an understanding
of how they came up with this idea.
I would love to have them on the podcast.
Liam, the creators of the of the Estes method and yeah, one yes,
right, the news, one of the shooters, one of the creators
that I guess shoots their show. I've I've reached out to a lot
of people and try to get them on, but they haven't responded
yet. Hopefully, maybe as we grow and
as this gets more popular, they'll want to come on and tell
me what, tell me what to do and how they do it.
I will try to find that episode for sure.
Thank you for pointing that out to me, Liam.
I appreciate it. Anything big an extra plan.
Let's see. So look, the Estes method run is
great. I I went out and got my and got
a coffee reading. Remember.
So from our look, the only psychic I'll ever go to is, you
know, get a reading live anyway, is Kathy Nadal because she did
the first one and we aired it. So anybody who I do a reading
with again, I'm going to wonder if they just watched that.
I'm going to be doubtful that they can tell me what it is.
So but Kathy wrote a book seeing more than clouds in your coffee.
It's another one on the book list.
If Chuck saw the book list. So I want so I went out and we
went to a coffee shop in New York and she gave me a coffee
reading. So I'm going to play that.
You know, you can read that, that that's kind of funny and
it's super fun. You know, I'm just, I was just
psyched that she didn't see my death in there, although she
did, guys. All right.
I've had a good run, you know, but I didn't see she didn't.
It was all possible. Yeah.
Kathy is great. What else?
What else can I tell you? What else?
We got an episode coming about John's experience with the Brown
Cemetery. It's going to take me a lot of
editing. It's a little more, you know,
it's a good story, what he did there.
A lot of you that are big fans of John, you know, all about the
Brown Cemetery that he cleaned up a few years ago, the history
of that place. So I think that's a good story.
I think it's a people forget that John cares about that
stuff. You know, it's not all just
sitting in his apartment, but when it's raining and and
sitting in that old apartment when it's raining and listening
to, you know, spirit chatter and talking to you guys, it's, you
know, he he was out there and he cleaned that place up.
So I think that's a good story to tell.
Let's take a look at that list. What else we got?
Oh yeah, I got a couple of good. I got AI don't like talking
about the people who I don't have episodes in the can with
yet. So I do have some other names.
Like I said, you know, if you guys don't know who Chip coffee
he is, chip coffee is he was on Paranormal state, he was on
Kindred spirits. He's been on TV's like years,
hundreds of episodes, you know, 100 episodes of different shows,
see multiple seasons of different shows, psychic mediums
been around. He's a fun one.
He's a fun guest, really knowledgeable.
He wrote a great, he wrote a great book too, but I'll talk
about that at my book list for 2026.
Hopefully we're still around doing this at the end of the
year because of you guys, but that's going to air in mid
February as well. The chip coffee interview and
I've got another really popular paranormal psychic medium which
coming up. I got a few more crash courses
in the books for myself. I know some of you mentioned
what is it? Skrilling, shrilling, scrying,
skrilled, screwed, screwing. What is it?
What is that? It's the, you know, when you
look at, you know, crystal ball reading and shit like that, you
know, looking into black mirrors and stuff.
I've got a really great name in the field who's going to give me
a crash course on that and what that all means and how that came
about. So I don't want to say who it is
yet until it's in the can, but. What do you write?
He's a sassy diva who Chip Coffee.
Yeah, Let me tell you Chip Coffee.
I'll give you a little teaser on that.
Yeah. He comes at me for being a
skeptic scrying. Yes, sorry, but yeah.
Chip comes after me. He says, you know, like I don't
believe in any of this shit and comes at me.
I don't know what I said. I think as I questioned him
about his faith and his religion a little bit, he got a little
upset with me, but we ended at we it was still it's I'm saying
that loosely. He didn't get upset with me.
We had a good time. Chip is Chip is amazing.
It was unbelievably kind of him to be on this.
But he does come at me about it. I don't know whether he liked
being questioned or about certain things or not, but he's
got some incredible stories, incredible stories and just a
wealth of history in the space. So that's a fun interview.
And what else can I tell you? What else you guys want to know?
Well, we got our numbers are picking up here.
We got a few more bodies. Cindy Kazza, you want me to go
out? OK.
I don't know who that is. I should.
That sounds like somebody I should look into.
Write this shit down now. See, you guys are giving me
names. You got to find a pen.
Guys, help me out. You know, you want to hear
somebody, see somebody, see something, say something, Right.
And of course, I don't have, like, a notebook here of any
kind or piece of paper. This is what happens with tech.
You get rid of paper. What's this?
I need that. Do I need this?
I need that for sure. I'll write on this envelope.
Cindy Kazza. I'll reach out to him.
We'll see if she'll do it. Oh, that's right.
Yes, I wrote. Oh, sorry.
I must have wrote this down before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
Well, I'll check her out. I will certainly check her out
and see if she will happy to do it.
Yeah. And.
And Liam, I will check out the new Kirk, see if they want to be
on who else? Anybody else?
What other fun things? What other fun things do you
guys want to see? I'm, I'm trying to go down that
list. I still have it, so don't worry
about that. Anyone, anyone.
What do you guys think John's learned from this past year?
He couldn't be here today. He had it's the holiday he's
spending with family. I get it.
But what do you think John has learned from being on this?
Curious what you guys think. You guys follow him religiously,
some of you? Or what do you think he should
learn from this? It's another question.
Two different questions. What, if anything, has John
learned? And what, if anything, should he
have learned? We can ask him next time we see
him. We can bring up these questions
to him. Here's what the community says.
I may have an aura reader on deck.
Palm readings, huh? That's funny.
I got to do that in person. I guess I'll have to find
somebody local. Palm readers?
Aura readers. I wonder if they're one in the
same, they just like all around or is it like expert?
I got to get my I got to get a tarot card reading.
That's got to happen, right? We got to do that.
Who's the best tarot card reader?
That one I can probably do online or do I have to be in the
room? I don't know this.
I don't know the magic behind it.
I'm confused about demons versus spirits and if there's demons,
are there angels? I don't know if you can stop
smoking that weed. Sky boat.
I don't know what they are. I've had a few demonologists on.
I'll try to find I'll try to find somebody and maybe dive
into that more. I had a professor on talk about
Satan, but there's definitely more about the biblical aspect
of all this that I I would, I love to get into.
I would love it. Yeah.
A lot of people are digging around the quantum thing, so
we're playing in that space. That ringing is not like an
Angel getting its wings. That's my Ring doorbell, guys.
If you hear that in the background, I don't know if it's
blocked, but if you hear that ringing, that's.
Yeah, that's not what that means.
That just means someone's messing around my front door.
What else can we talk about today?
It's a real loose episode. It's the holiday, folks.
People are just chilling. No one's around.
So anyway, let's talk about Tuesday's episode.
Why don't we do that? Wait.
Ned's wait. I'm sorry.
What does that say? Ned's Soderquist.
Nita. Sorry.
Hold on. Let me pull this up.
Let me get this closer. Nita Soderquist, what is that V
solder kvist? What is she good?
Good at what? What does Nita do?
I'm writing all this shit down guys.
I look to use to be my Nita Soderquist.
I'll check that person. I'm check all these out.
I'll look into all these folks that you recommend that you like
to listen to. I don't know.
Does anybody know who the blue Bodie is?
The Blue Bodie is going to be a guest.
He's got a pretty big following. Sorry for the long silent pauses
as I read the chat. Talk to you all today about the
future of splintered spirits. So look, I'll come back to these
questions. So let's talk about the
immediate future. Tuesday we have a brand new
episode with Matthew Botsford. Matthew Botsford was shot in the
head, flatlined and had a distressed near death experience
where he went to hell and came back from it.
It is an incredible wild story. It's you know, some people they
have they get shot in the head or not.
When some people get shot in the head.
Some people when they have a near death experience, it's you
know, they see the light and they see like the grandma and
it's like, oh, you know, it's like everything's great and we
miss you, but it's not your time.
Go back, right, All that stuff. This is not that thing.
So with Matthew, he got hit by a in a, in a violent act drive by
that wasn't meant for him. You know, it was just caught in
the crossfire of something coming out of a restaurant in
Atlanta. Took a bullet to the head flat
lined several times, but had an absolutely horrific experience.
And he's going to tell his story.
We're going to talk about it, how his life changed from that.
It's a guy who got scared straight, but for, you know, for
real. And sometimes I got to tell you
like, you know, between us, just between us.
I think it's so fascinating, right?
Like he feels he's a better person now, but it wasn't
because he saw God, right? It was like in a weird way in
his for him going to hell is what made him a better person.
Think about that for a second. It took it took like the devil
straightened him out in a weird way.
So what's that about? It's really interesting, right?
He turned his life around just by seeing him.
So I thought I was just sleeping when I had mine.
Well, you know, this is a really interesting thing about sleep.
You know, most people, whether it's an alien abduction or
seeing apparitions, it tends to happen in that moment of for a
lot of people when they're drowsy and sleepy.
Where does the mind go? Where does consciousness go?
That doesn't make it unreal, That doesn't make it total
bullshit, but it certainly creates a scenario where you're,
you're wondering like, OK, well, what's really happening again?
Is it your, is that a just your minds freed up because you're
sleeping? Is it a consciousness thing?
I don't know the answer. I guess that's why we do that.
That's why we're doing this thing, trying to find out those
questions, the answers to those questions.
But yeah, back to Matt. Matt's great.
I've talked to Matt. I've known Matt for a while.
He's it, it is a classic. Listen, I and I've, I know other
stories of near death experiences, especially they're
called distressed near death experiences.
So the numbers are something like 10% of people who flatline
have a near death experience like this where they have
visions of all the people who flatline and, and return, 10%
have been, you know, it's a small number have a near death
experience and then a smaller number of those have a
distressed near death experience.
That distressed experience, you know, for Matthew is like sort
of classic Dante's Inferno, 7th level of health sort of thing,
right? He saw the demons, he saw lava,
he saw fire and brimstone, which is why it's a wild story and
just live through pain. And you know, and to him, you
know, the love of his family and his wife and prayer brought him
back. And it's a great, you know, it's
it's it's an interesting sort of perspective on the afterlife of
what he thinks it is that as we paint our put together our
tapestry of what this is to get that perspective right.
And that point of view that drops Tuesday is what ability?
Where do we go? Oh, I don't know, man.
I don't know what Billie Eilish has to say about stuff.
I know she and a ghost tell her to come out splendid spirits.
You had a near death, but it was positive.
Lost my lost your psychic ability now.
All right. I don't know what your real name
is. Fermom Liz.
Fermom, Liz just wrote, I'm going to show this.
I had a near death experience, but it was positive.
I lost my psychic ability. Now that is really strange
because so many people claim that near death experience has
strengthened their ability. And for you, you lost it, huh?
I find that wild. That's an interesting thing.
I don't know who you can even talk to about that.
I feel like if it was a Marvel, Marvel movie, you'd have to go
through some superhero trials to get your powers back right like
that. It's Superman, his powers back.
I don't really know the answer, but what's the percentage of
having a nothing experience? Just do the math.
If I told you 10% of the people who flatline have a near death
experience, that means 90% have a nothing experience.
Let's go. I wasn't.
That wasn't rocket science. Maybe it's hidden.
I don't know. Maybe it's hidden.
You know, I don't know. Well, then you got to figure out
how to get your figure out. Stella got her groove back
somehow. Maybe Liz, you can get yours
back. I would not recommend trying for
another near death experience though in the hopes of getting
your psychic ability back. That's not not the way to do it.
Do not try that. The psychic capital of the world
is Cassadaga, Florida. Is that near Sarasota, FL?
Where is Cassadaga Florida is that?
Why is there most psychics live there?
Because then what you're telling me is though, if you're telling
me that most if you're near Sarasota, Sarasota is where all
the let's like Ringling brothers, that's where the
carnies are. So if Cassadaga is near there, I
don't know if that's all. It's just might be a lot of
people who claim to be psychic. I think if you want to go to a
psychic, you got to go to you got to go to a real go to
somebody credited like Cafe and have a talk.
People who have been, you know, put in the work.
I don't know. Cassadigas, Cassadiga, Florida,
like a capital of the world. I didn't know that was a thing.
I just continued to learn. Let's see.
Hey, guys. Renee Damn, what's up?
Insta Of course it's Florida. Look, at least it's not
Pennsylvania. The thing about Kathy Nadal is
her credit, her accreditation comes through the Forever Family
Foundation, which you may have heard about them, if not from
me, which we did an interview with the guy who started it,
Robert Ginsberg, but it was also featured.
He was also featured on the Therapy Tapes, which is an
amazing podcast. I mean, it's like what it's, I
think it was the best one, the biggest one this year that
exploded. They are really, they do a real
grilling of people who claim to be psychic.
And if you get accredited from them, I believe then you are
probably a high level intuitive and you are very good at what
you do. You know, I would say you're a
real psychic for sure. What about people who claim
vivid past life memories? What about them?
I don't know what you're, I don't understand your question.
Are they real people? I don't know.
I don't know what you mean by what about is that just like, do
I think they're lying or or not? And I don't, I don't think
anybody's ever lying. I think people believe what they
believe. Oh, you mean for a, for a show?
What about people who claim vivid past life memories?
I guess the only reason I, you know why, well, I, I, I would
have to find the point of hearing someone's past life
story, right? I mean, I, I, I understand, I
like hearing from like AQHHT, which I did.
You know what I did that interview about past life
regression I've done, you know, we did two of them and the
Akashic records and all that stuff.
And you know, a random story of just someone telling their
random story of a past life. I guess I'd have to know more
detail about it, right. Like, you know, I can interview
with a ton of people with near death experiences, but Matt's
story is one I've got, you know, like the like the man was shot
in the head. I have his X-ray.
You'll see it. There's a bullet sitting in his
head. I mean, he flat lined.
It's a real legit story. So hearing it from him and how
vivid it is and telling about it is really interesting.
And yeah, I no, no. And, and listen, I appreciate
the brainstorm, but it's like, you know, and I'm just
brainstorming back. It's a if, if we're going to
tell stories of people who had a past like this is you've you got
to hear Jane or John Smith's past life regression story
because this like that's what I need to know to make it to do
it, to want to do a show about it.
Like what is it about that here's you know, it's like, you
know, maybe the way to do it. I guess that, you know, we'd be
really interesting to do, but I don't know what the rules are
because there's some real, there's people who study
children. I'm trying here.
I've been really trying to reach out to Dopps, the department of
what is it, Paranormal science at Virginia Tech.
They do real studies of children who claim to have past life
experience. That to me is more interesting
than just some guy or girl woman's past life story.
So like, you know, to hear how does a child know some
information like that? And there's there's apparently
that's a thing. And like kids do.
So that to me, I would do, I'd have to get a parent's
permission to do it. Oh yeah, like you said, right?
The little boy who completely described his past, like, yeah,
right. That's what.
So yeah, we're saying now we're talking the same now we're
talking the same language. Yes, I think a kid I would do if
I can get some kid in their parent on I got to find that kid
in their parent. That would be fun.
That would be interesting. And then talk about how they
knew that. What do they think they're
dealing with? Right?
That's interesting, but I don't think I would just do some rando
adult like telling their story. I mean, you know, look, people
are out there like they're having past life experiences
about in other because remember past life, if you believe in
what past life is a misnomer, right?
It's not about like, hey, I was a bartender 100 years ago.
No, it means it's what they believe it is, is alternate
universes like it's Everything Everywhere all at once.
It's like, so if you see that movie, that's what they think it
is. So you are living as a bartender
right now, but in a different timeline.
It's not 100 years ago. Oh, I mean, and there's people
who have past life experiences where they're, you know, they're
hobbits in the Shire. I don't know what that's about.
I don't know if how much I, how much I, I just don't.
What's the connection is that? I mean, a man made that up, you
know, a man made, you know, Gerard Tolkin made-up that
world. So how do you have, how is there
an alternate timeline where that exists?
I don't know. I don't know what that that
means. So but a kid talking about
things that couldn't possibly, couldn't possibly know and you
know that that is. That's interesting.
Yeah, I guess that's interesting.
I would do that. I could look into that.
And how does it relate to spirit communications, all that stuff?
That's cool. What else, guys?
What else do you want to know? This is a fun chat.
I like how active you are being involved.
Don't forget to like share, subscribe, please, please,
please. The comments are good, They're
helpful. They push it, but you're not
going to see this on most other podcasts.
I mean, they, they don't do interviews like this.
They're all very like all, they're all on the same page, I
should say. And not that we aren't not that
we're not believers, but I think we asked sort of just the right
amount of questions to, you know, push an envelope here too,
to sort of get that going in a fun way.
People take themselves very seriously also in this space.
And I respect that. But I think you have to
recognize what space we're talking about and enjoy it as
well. All right, folks, there's no
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Matt drops. We'll be out there in the
universe. These are all facts, fun facts,
fun facts, but other than that, guys, I think I'm going to
split. Yep, for mom Liz belief and
healthy skepticism. These are all these are all
important. I think if, you know, I I just
don't know how anybody could be so matter of fact about things
in this space. And they're just so like, this
is what it is. And if you don't believe me, you
know, then, you know, like, I don't want to hear from you.
I mean, that's really, nobody should be like that about
anything. So that's the weird part, you
know? All right, guys.
Yeah. This is a real loose, loose Q&A
little wrap up of 2025. Wait, Speaking of wrap up, just
before we go, one more thing. What was everybody's favorite,
everybody on here? What was your favorite episode
of 2025? Can you think of 1?
And I'm betting some of you haven't watched them all.
And if you have, you haven't, you're still on vacation, You
still might still have a few days off.
You got plenty of time to binge. But for those who have watched
everyone, what's your favorite so far?
I kind of want to know before I go.
I will give you a few moments to respond.
What's up, Instagram? Thank you for tuning in,
checking us out. We're here on splintered spirits
talking about, you know, what to do in 2026, about ghosts,
anyone. What was your favorite?
Let's hear it. The fireplace room.
Guys, I forgot to tell you, I have a less edited version of
that episode with video ready to drop, and I haven't decided when
I'm going to drop it yet. Maybe on its one year
anniversary. But I have it.
It's all in the can. It's ready to go.
That one was only audio, but yeah, we've got with video the
full thing. Wow.
You liked Joseph Laycock, the professor about the devil.
That's a great. That's fun.
I'm glad. Which cat?
We did 3-3. Kathy's great when she gives me
a reading. I bet you like that one better.
And then, oh, yeah, Rosie Grant. That was a fun one.
That was a little different for us, but it's a point out how
people's connection to the past, right.
Still lives. That's a good one.
I think. It's still fun.
I think. I think that one was more
because, you know, we did that episode with Rosie Grant, which
was less about spirits obviously and more about cemeteries
because John is such an A love for them and affiliation and for
for me. I never, I have, you know what
John does cleaning headstones. You know, he was the I think the
first guy to do that that I've ever seen.
It's the most unique thing I've seen in cemetery.
And Rosie, what Rosie did with this was what she does with how
she traveled the country and even the world looking for
recipes I found to be completely unique and an appreciation for
headstones. So that I was so, so glad that
she was. She came on our podcast.
I mean, this is a woman who went on Kelly Clarkson, right?
I mean, it's like a hit show. And then she comes on Splendid
spirits and honored to give us some time.
I mean, that was so unbelievably kind of her.
Oh, the Italian witch. You know, it's one of our top.
Yeah. She's funny, right?
Lori Bruno, the Italian witch, the Salem witch.
She was a trip. I mean, she spoke at like, which
speaks. She had the whole thing dialed
down. That was really fun.
Yeah. For sure.
Yeah. Lori.
Lori Bruno. It's a good one.
Definitely. I love that.
Yeah. It's a good variety out there.
It's funny, man. No, like, not everyone's saying
the exact same thing. Huh?
That's pretty crazy. All right, well, listen guys,
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