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Hello beautiful humans, and 
welcome to the Mental Wellness 

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Wake Up Show, a weekly podcast 
where growthminded, creative 

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people come to learn best 
practices from both spirituality

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and psychology that create 
lasting wellbeing. 

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I am your host, mental Wellness 
expert, improvised acting 

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teacher, therapist, and coach 
Dawn McMillan. 

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Let's get to it. 
All right, You Beautiful beings.

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Thank you for being here. 
If you are here for the first 

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time. 
Ville cumin. 

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Bienvenu bienvenidos liosum. 
Chanyavu. 

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Welcome, welcome, welcome, 
welcome, welcome. 

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However you got to be here, I am
grateful that you are here. 

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And to my returning listeners, 
what? 

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I'm giving you a big giant hug. 
Thank you for hanging with me. 

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Thank you for coming back. 
It's an honor and a privilege to

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spend time with you. 
So thank you. 

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So if you're just catching up, 
we are diving into the eniagram.

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The eniagram is a nine pointed 
wisdom system often used and 

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understood as a personality 
typing. 

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And my belief is that human 
beings are way too complex to 

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fit into just one anything. 
Whether it's a personality type 

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or astrological sign or anything
else, we are complex, beautiful 

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beings, and we contain all of 
everything within us, just to 

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differing degrees. 
And so we can always learn from 

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each of the individual anyogram 
types, both where our tendencies

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lie and how we can use each of 
the types to guide us toward. 

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Greater integration, greater 
peace, greater love, greater 

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joy, greater power, greater all 
the good things. 

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So let's continue. 
So traditionally we start with 

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Enneagram 8 because the 8-9 and 
one which are at the top of the 

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circle of the Enneagram are our 
gut center or instinct center 

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are body centered people. 
And as a reminder of the centers

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are just a little bit where you 
lead from, some people lead from

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the heart, some people lead from
the head and some people lead 

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from the body. 
So we're moving on to our 

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aniagram nines. 
And aniagram nines are some of 

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my favorite people and I bet 
they are some of your favorite 

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people too, because the aniagram
nines are known as the 

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peacemaker. 
So any gram nines are 

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characterized by being so very 
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They're easygoing, self 
effacing, receptive, reassuring,

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agreeable, sometimes complacent.
One of the challenges that any 

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gram nines have is this tension 
of wanting to always maintain 

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inner comfort and outer comfort.
So the basic fear of the any of 

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gram. 
Is of loss, separation or 

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annihilation. 
Loss, separation or annihilation

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and the basic desire of the 
Inneagram 9 our Peacemakers is 

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to maintain inner stability and 
Peace of Mind. 

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So there's a part of them that 
believes you are good or okay as

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long as those around you are 
good or okay. 

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So any of Graham Nines don't 
like to upset anyone else, so 

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they don't like to be upset so 
they can be super easy to get 

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along with. 
So here's a quote from an 

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niagram 9 that our Niagram 9 
friends might recognize. 

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I am aware of focusing on other 
people wondering what they're 

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like, how and where they live, 
etcetera. 

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In a relationship with others. 
I often give up my own agenda in

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favor of other persons. 
I have to be on guard about 

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giving in to the others demands 
and discounting my own 

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legitimate needs. 
So in the Reso Hudson system, 

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they call the Enniogram nines 
the crown of the enniogram 

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because they're on the top of 
the circle, but also because 

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they can appear like many of the
other Enniogram types, they 

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sometimes have the strength of 
the eights. 

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The sense of fun of the sevens, 
the dutifulness of the sixes, 

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the intellectualism of the 
fives, the creativity of fours, 

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the attractiveness of threes, 
the generosity of twos, and the 

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idealism of ones. 
But what they often are missing 

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is a sense of inhabiting 
themselves. 

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So this idea of merging is 
really common with nines. 

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The other thing that's really 
common with nines is a great 

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love of their creature comforts.
Nines, they like to be 

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comfortable, they like to be 
comfortable and they like to 

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make other people comfortable. 
So as we said before, we're not 

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necessarily going to focus so 
much on how or why people become

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that way. 
The answer really is unknown and

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because. 
It is a nature. 

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It is a nature of and nurture 
situation, your tendencies and 

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other people's tendencies. 
So what's great about being a 

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nine? 
Nines are really easy to get 

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along with, right? 
Nines are very like people and 

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are liked by people. 
It's like one of their 

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superpowers is that they really 
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Like most of the people that 
they meet, and unsurprisingly, 

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most of the people like them. 
The downside of that for nines 

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is that sometimes that liking 
and being liked can prevent them

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from standing up for themselves.
So looking at. 

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We're in the Reso Hudson system 
and I may go back into the 

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eights in the Reso Hudson 
system. 

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Forgive me eights, don't come 
looking for me with it with a 

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knife. 
I don't want to get in a knife 

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fight with you. 
But we may go back to the eights

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in the Reso Hudson system 
because I think it might be a it

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just might be an interesting 
interrogation. 

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But what I would love to do, and
the reason why I switched over 

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to the Reso Hudson system is 
they have this levels of 

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development of the Type 9 and so
if you recognize yourself as a 

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nine. 
Nines are stubborn. 

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Remember that the body group 8 
nines and ones have a unique 

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relationship to anger. 8 nines 
and ones are characterized by 

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how they are managing their 
relationship to anger. 

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So a nine can be shockingly 
stubborn, right? 

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They're the go along to get 
along types almost always, but 

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when a nine reaches a breaking 
point you will see. 

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A person that you did not know 
was in there, right? 

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That super stubborn, angry 
person, when they finally come 

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out, can be really shocking and 
surprising to the people around 

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them because we're all used to 
like, Oh yeah, they're fine. 

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They're fine with whatever. 
They're the ones who are like, 

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hey, where do you want to go to 
dinner? 

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And they're like, I'm fine with 
whatever and they will make it 

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fine. 
They will be fine with whatever.

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So in the Reso Hudson system, 
they give. 

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Levels of of development. 
So I'm going to take a look at 

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these so that our nines can 
check in for their opportunities

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for growth. 
And for the rest of us, we also 

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can check in and say, oh, I kind
of noticed that tendency in 

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myself. 
How can I encourage myself to go

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one more level up, one more 
expansive level? 

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Are you tracking with me? 
Okay, so. 

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When a nine is at their most 
unhealthy, a level 9A level 99, 

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they can be characterized as 
being self abandoning, 

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disappearing. 
Very unhealthy nines feel unable

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to face reality at all. 
They withdraw into themselves 

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and become completely 
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They may attempt to eliminate 
their awareness to save their 

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illusions of peace. 
Through fragmenting themselves 

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into sub personalities are you 
hearing the the mental illness 

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and the addiction temptation 
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A totally self abandoning 9 May 
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They may have these sub 
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instead. 
They may numb out so much that 

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they don't face reality. 
So the question then becomes to 

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what degrees are we are you and 
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Disappearing and self 
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OK Level 8. 
Disassociating, disoriented. 

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Sometimes nines are so desperate
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inner peace they have that they 
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all so they can be kind of numb,
helpless, or even have amnesia. 

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Now this is something I noticed 
a lot with people who have 

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trauma. 
They have this 9 characteristic,

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this indiogram 9 characteristic 
of They checked out so much they

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don't remember. 
Whenever someone says I don't 

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really remember my childhood, 
I'm like Oh yeah, you flocked 

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your childhood behind the 
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Another level up. 
Level 7 repressed neglectful 

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nines fear that reality will 
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problems and this may be true. 
They may react by defending the 

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illusion that everything is 
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And stubbornly resisting all 
efforts to get to them, to 

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confront their problems. 
They're depressed, ineffectual 

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and listless. 
I will raise my hand. 

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I've been there. 
I've been there. 

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No, everything's fine. 
Everything's fine. 

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No, no, no, no, Everything's 
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Yeah, totally listless. 
Like I I have no desire to do 

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anything. 
But everything's fine. 

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Yeah, Raise your hand. 
If you're guilty of that one, 

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don't raise your hand. 
I can't actually see you. 

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But yeah, definitely been there.
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Moving up Level 6, resigned and 
appeasing nines are afraid that 

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others will demand responses 
from them that may arouse 

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anxiety and ruin their inner 
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So they downplay the importance 
of problems and try to deflect 

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others. 
So this is where you're 

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resigned. 
Resigned. 

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You're like. 
Just going to keep on stoically 

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trudging through. 
I'm going to deny my feelings. 

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I'm going to deny other people's
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I'm going to suppress my anger. 
I'm just going to suppress and 

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deny and act stoic and wish that
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Level 5 Disengaged, Complacent. 
Nine's worry that any 

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significant changes in their 
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will disrupt their fragile 
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So they set up their lives in 
ways that will prevent things 

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from getting to them. 
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comforting routines and habits, 
putter around and tune out 

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problems. 
So that's disengaged, 

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complacent. 
And that's an average average 9.

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That's when. 
That's when. 

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That's when it's like 
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Because what's so important to 
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and outer peace. 
And so on average, average 9. 

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We'll may do that by just 
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everything's kind of 
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They've got their habits, 
they've got their routines, you 

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know, just trying to protect 
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having routine level 4 self 
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Nines begin to fear that 
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ruin their Peace of Mind, so 
they begin to avoid potential 

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conflicts by going along with 
others they may consider matters

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not worth arguing about, but 
we'll also begin to say yes to 

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things they really do not want 
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So at this level 4 we're talking
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don't want the conflict. 
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get along so they don't have to 
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I really don't want to have 
conflict. 

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I really don't want to have my 
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So even if I really kind of 
don't want to deal with this 

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right now, I'll just go along to
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So those of you who already know
a little bit about the Enneagram

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may, may feel a little bit of 
that Enneagram 2 energy in here 

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and that's what Reso Hudson mean
when they say that the Enneagram

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9 has all these characteristics 
of these other parts. 

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When I first saw the anagram, 
and I hope by now you've googled

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the image, I was like, why is 
the 9 at the top? 

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But if you begin to understand 
why the nine is last and why 

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it's on the top, it is because 
this type really does, depending

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on their level of emotional 
health at the time, embody the 

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other parts in some really cool 
and interesting ways. 

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So as we move up to a healthier 
version of a nine. 

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We have unselfish and comforting
nines reinforce their self-image

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by creating and maintaining 
peace and harmony in their 

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world. 
They use their patient level 

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headed approach to mediate 
conflicts and soothe others. 

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They are often highly 
imaginative, inspiring others 

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with a healing, positive vision 
of life. 

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So this is that 9 embodying that
four creativity that let that 

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Enneagram 2 understanding with 
their own special Enneagram 9 

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magic sprinkles on top of just 
being able to be a stand for 

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peace. 
Unselfish comforting. 

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I have a very specific Enneagram
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I'm thinking about who's often 
embodies this level. 

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They're just patient and 
levelheaded, help they get along

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with others and they help others
get along with them. 

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Moving up to an even more 
expansive, healthier, healthier 

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is sounds judgmental, so let's 
just use that term lightly. 

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We're just talking about ways of
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peace, more joy, more light, 
more love, all the good things 

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then not. 
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oh. 
You're a You're at a low level 

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and you're grand, man. 
We don't do that here. 

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We're just using these 
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in to see if we're embodying a 
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ourselves. 
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peaceful nines focus on the 
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as a whole, desiring to maintain
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them and in their environment. 
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and kind. 
So that Enneagram 9 that I was 

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thinking of often gives this 
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These are just like I said, if 
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life, you're like, Oh my God, 
this person is so easy to be 

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around and you are grateful. 
Yeah, because that's why they're

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steady and they steady others 
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And then a level one and this is
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have all of their superpowers. 
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self possessed indomitable Nines
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participation in the world is 
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Thus they can truly connect with
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They also paradoxically achieve 
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stability and Peace of Mind. 
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actualization, they become self 
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Dynamic, serene and present. 
So invite us all to think. 

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What can we be, do, say, think 
and choose so that we are self 

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possessed, dynamic, serene and 
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How can we be harmonious in 
ourselves and the kind of person

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who creates harmony around them?
How can we use our imagination 

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to be inspiring to others with a
healing positive vibe and vision

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that is the gift of the aneogram
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Steadiness within creativity. 
Without sacrificing ourselves, I

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believe we've become. 
We've come to a misunderstanding

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of boundaries, where it's my 
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Screw anyone who gets in my way.
Boundaries are being healthy. 

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Boundaries are being this 
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I'm not willing to throw myself 
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I'm going to do what I can to 
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getting thrown in front of 
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Why are people running in front 
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Why are the buses speeding 
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Right. 
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Dynamic. 
Serene. 

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Present. 
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Present, present. 
You thought I was done, didn't 

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you? 
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Specifically, four or any of 
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You need to be careful against 
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Yes, it's easier to sit on your 
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eat pizza. 
But when you sit on your couch 

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watching Netflix and eating 
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numbing out or smoking pot or 
drinking wine or whoever else 

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you're numbing out, you're 
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superpower. 
Did you not hear how awesome you

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are? 
Did you not hear how awesome you

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are, bringing peace to yourself 
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We need you. 
So guard against sloth and 

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checking out. 
So be on guard. 

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Not be on guard. 
But, you know, take care. 

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Take care. 
And for all of us, let's not 

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numb out, let's not numb out. 
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And also, let's let's not 
underestimate the power of being

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peace and creating peace. 
So with that, this week's 

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invitation is to lean deeply 
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Find that ability to be self 
possessed, level headed, serene,

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creative, imaginative. 
Because you can. 

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So we're channeling our our 
anneagram eights, our dynamic 

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stand up for what is right 
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We're channeling our anneagram 
nines where we have that 

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serenity that we can bring to 
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And we are celebrating ourselves
and each other because each and 

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every one of us is unique. 
And beautiful and glorious and 

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worthy and deserving of love, 
peace, joy, prosperity, 

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wholeness, health, wellbeing, 
freedom, autonomy, fun, safety, 

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connection. 
Keep adding stuff that you 

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desire for yourself. 
We are, each and every one of 

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us, absolutely deserving of 
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And I wish that for you, for 
every being on the planet, maybe

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we all have peace. 
We meet. 

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All have joy. 
Maybe we all have all those 

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goodies. 
Because hear me now, Believe me 

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now and later, you are worth it.
So thanks for being here. 

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