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Hello, beautiful humans and 
welcome to the mental Wellness. 

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Wake up, show a weekly podcast 
where growth minded creative 

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people, come to learn, best 
practices from both spirituality

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and psychology that create 
lasting well-being. 

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I am your host mental Wellness, 
expert improvised acting teacher

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therapist and Coach, Don 
McMillan. 

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Let's get to it. 
It. 

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What I want to talk about today 
is the Enneagram. 

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So if this is your first time 
here first of all, thank you. 

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There's so many things that you 
could be doing with your time a 

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so your willingness to share it 
here right now is a true gift. 

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So thank you. 
Second of all, we're talking 

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about the Enneagram which is a 
wisdom system. 

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Most commonly used as a 
personality typing system that 

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includes nine basic ways. 
Of relating to the world nine, 

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basic personality types. 
And my thesis is that we human 

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beings are way too fascinating 
way to facet, Ed to be limited 

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to just one anything. 
And that what we're going to use

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the Enneagram for is, as a way 
of integrating all the different

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aspects of ourselves. 
I believe that we are made up of

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so many He different parts. 
And each of those parts belongs 

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in each of those parts has 
something to offer us. 

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So as we're seeking to grow as 
we're seeking to become the best

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version of ourselves, we can 
take a look at each Enneagram 

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type for two purposes. 
One is to identify ourselves to 

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to understand our families and 
friends and colleagues better 

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but three is to look for ways to
take the best of that 

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personality. 
Ality type and see if we can't 

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add it to our own Suite of 
behaviors and resources. 

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So, we're really about the big 
picture. 

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We're really about making a 
circle, hope not dividing 

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ourselves up into little parts 
or little numbers. 

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But thinking about things in 
terms of being holistic, and 

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that's where we are headed. 
So, we will begin with Enneagram

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8. 
But wait, you might be saying to

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yourself aren't the numbers 1, 
through 9, Why not start with 

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number one. 
And here's why the Enneagram is 

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divided into three segments 
called centers of intelligence. 

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So, there are three different 
centers of its intelligence. 

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The gut or Body Center, The 
Heart Center, and the head 

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Center. 
So the gut Center is comprised 

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of Enneagram, 8, 9, and 10. 
So we're going to begin with the

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beginning of the gut Center and 
not the first number. 

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I don't fully understand. 
Although I'm sure there are 

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people who do why we don't 
number? 

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The Enneagram differently. 
Once you discover the gut 

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centers, I suspect it has 
something to do with one's being

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the perfectionist, but I digress
because 8 is the beginning of 

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the gut Center. 
We are going to start with 

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Enneagram 8. 
So what do I mean by centers of 

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intelligence? 
So you may hear me clicking 

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around and flipping papers 
because I am looking at notes. 

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So for centers of intelligence, 
we're basically just looking at 

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a primary orientation for Aging 
with the world. 

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So people in the gut Center or 
the Body Center tend to go with 

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their gut. 
They're more instinctual, 

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they're more centered in the 
body and people in this Center, 

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have a complex relationship to 
anger. 

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So, the first center 8th 9th and
ones are a body or gut Center, 

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and it's that notion of being 
really grounded in the body and 

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moving, A lot from instinct. 
Twos, threes and fours are in 

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the Heart Center. 
So heart-centered people tend to

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go with emotions, they tend to 
be led by their feelings and 

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two, threes and fours, have a 
complex relationship with shame.

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Then we get to our fives sixes 
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seven are considered the head or
the intellectual Center. 

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So these are the people who are 
living life from the right and 

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living life from the left neck 
up for the most part. 

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Think their way through life, 
five six and seven stink their 

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way through life and five six 
and seven have a complex 

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relationship with fear. 
So those are the intellectual 

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centers. 
Pardon all the noise. 

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If you can hear it, that's just 
people coming and going. 

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I'm consistently the beginning 
to believe. 

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I need to build a studio but 
we'll get to that. 

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Okay. 
So we have the intelligence 

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centers gut heart and mind are 
head. 

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Actually not mind head so we're 
starting with Enneagram 8. 

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So any G eights are called the 
assert ER the boss or the 

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Challenger. 
So eight tend to be motivated by

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The need to be self-reliant and 
strong and to avoid feeling weak

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or dependent. 
So, AIDS are really interested 

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in control. 
They are not interested in 

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controlling others or situations
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if it's required but they are 
primarily interested in not 

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being controlled. 
So they're not wandering around 

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just looking for power in order 
to have power. 

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But in order to not be 
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a position of power if needed. 
So eight at their best are 

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direct authoritative, loyal 
energetic earthy protective, 

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self-confident. 
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personally, if they believe in 
something they will, Fight tooth

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and nail for that something 
specifically, those eight who 

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are involved in causes, like you
definitely want them on your 

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side. 
There's some people who believe 

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that Martin Luther King jr. 
And Mother Teresa were Enneagram

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8. 
Like they are, you know, 

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Warriors for the causes that 
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So if your friend is an eight 
and they are loyal to you, They 

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will fight by your side. 
Like just I always think of 

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Enneagram mates as like these. 
These warriors with, with sword 

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straps to their back, right? 
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you want an 8 because they will 
definitely, they definitely have

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your back. 
So, what's great about being an 

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8 is a rates like about 
themselves often Is being 

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independent and self reliant 
being able to take charge being 

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courageous and straightforward 
and honest and in some systems 

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eights are considered to have 
the sin. 

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I hope you can hear the air 
quotes of lust lust meaning a 

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deep attachment and passion 
towards physical experience. 

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It's not necessarily sexual, 
it's just really wanting 

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physical stimulation. 
You like you're very likely to 

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find eight jumping out of a 
perfectly good planes. 

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So that's that's like eights are
just really see sort of seizing 

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the day. 
Often 8 Source can be very 

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supportive and empowering and 
protective of those close to 

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them and as I implied before, if
there's a just cause they will 

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put themselves on the front 
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It's weaknesses tend to be. 
They can be a little 

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overwhelming that can be very 
intense and for some other types

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like that intensity can be a 
little off-putting. 

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The thing to remember is that 
that's just them being them, 

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they just feel things, very 
deeply and I'm very passionate 

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about the things that they 
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And then sometimes they can put 
way too much pressure on 

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themselves, ignore their own 
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And just keep pushing through 
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them. 
So being an eight has so many 

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advantages so much going for it.
Now you said that the gut 

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centers have a complex 
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Its relationship to anger is 
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There are other types that will 
suppress it, ignore it or 

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passive-aggressive, 
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It you're a Average eight will 
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It like a fan. 
If 1/8 is a riled up, you will 

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know it. 
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about your average, Enneagram 8 
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always in service to something 
worthwhile, unless they're an 

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unevolved eight, right? 
You know what I'm saying? 

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Like, It's it's not it's not 
anger for no reason. 

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It's usually anchor at or wrong.
It's anger at a wrong. 

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An unevolved Enneagram 8 will 
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walk through life angry but if 
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Enneagram a who's riled up 
reframe that as just Real and 

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True passion. 
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So that's a bird's eye view of 
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Passionate strong-willed. 
Loyal willing to willing to go 

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head-on into danger if it's for 
someone they love or something 

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that they believe in, how can we
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How can we learn from the 
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So I want to go back to that 
list of some of the eight best 

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qualities. 
It's our Direct. 

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Authoritative loyal energetic 
earthy for that. 

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I read grounded, you know. 
And sometimes, when I think our 

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theater, I think of people who 
smell of Patchouli and where 

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bamboo clothes, but I think, I 
think more of her talking about,

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like grounded and the gift of 
the eight is that they're 

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actually in their body. 
They're actually in their body 

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am like, five, six and seven, 
who are sometimes, not even in 

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their head, sort of floating of 
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So eights are Are grounded 
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So in order to integrate that 
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begin to be willing to notice 
and process anger. 

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So many of us, especially those 
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assigned female, we think anger 
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What a healthy Enneagram 8 does,
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it and use it as fuel to take 
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So our challenge This week, as 
we begin to think, how can I 

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integrate and support? 
My inner Enneagram 8 is in what 

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ways can I get in touch with my 
passion? 

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In what ways, can I be more in 
my body that could look like 

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going to yoga or Tai Chi? 
That could look like doing 

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breathwork that could look like 
punching a boxing bag that could

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look like doing a cold dip that 
could look like just giving 

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yourself a little pets on your 
body, how can I be more in my 

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body? 
How can I notice those kernels 

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of anger Within Myself and use 
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How can I be more direct in my 
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Can I mean what I say? 
And say what I mean, So as you 

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go through this week, maybe 
listen to this last few minutes 

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a couple of times or jot down 
some key questions that you want

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to use in your morning routine 
to begin to unearth that 

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Enneagram 8 within you as you 
move through space so that we 

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can add that beautiful 
courageous willingness that 

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Enneagram eights bring to life 
in. 

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Ourselves and if my description 
of an Enneagram 8 made you think

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oh I think someone in my life is
an Enneagram a man. 

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Appreciate the heck out of them.
It can be rough being in any 

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Grand made, especially for 
Enneagram mates. 

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Who were women. 
People are not always as 

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receptive to direct forthcoming 
passionate women, as they are 

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two men with the same 
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So your Enneagram 8. 
If they love you, they love you 

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hard. 
Never take that for granted. 

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Never take them for granted. 
All right. 

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I have to at this point, do 
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Important. 
And that is to remind you that 

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regardless of what your 
Enneagram type is or is not you.

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Are amazing. 
You are like a smorgasbord of 

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awesome and do penis you just as
you are in this moment at this 

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time our whole perfect and 
complete and you are worthy and 

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deserving of a life, so 
remarkable. 

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That you wake up with a grin on 
your face everyday. 

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Thanks for being here. 
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