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Righto money miners Tucker and 
Dharma back for Part 2. 

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I didn't get. 
I thought I was gonna get 

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lynched by the audience for this
one, but. 

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Everyone loved it. 
Great feedback. 

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Ohh, flying go target mate. 
So Part 2, we're going on with 

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things that have changed in the 
industry, mostly for the better,

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like small women working 
underground, new technology, new

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standards, all improving safety 
and stuff over the time that 

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they've been mining to now 
what's changed? 

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They go through it, but how 
important management is right? 

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And what we they define as 
management, not just the poor 

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bloody MDC are getting all 
hammered by everyone. 

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It's the liars that go all the 
way down through the operation 

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that they talk about for this 
good culture. 

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So mate, it's like considering, 
considering after this and 

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probably from previous podcasts,
our Tucker has become probably 

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one of the biggest personalities
in underground mining, quite 

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parallel to the biggest Get Wet 
bladder that has been just 

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released to to the world. 
Two and a half million litres, 

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lads, Get wet, Maddie Hall is 
back. 

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Get Wet has gotten even bigger 
and even wetter. 

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We love these guys. 
I love them, love them. 

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He's bigger than an Olympic size
swimming pool. 

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There's massive. 
I know it's like a bloody 70 

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metre pool now, like it's 
friggin huge, right? 

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Maddie said he'd only come back 
once the two and a half million 

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litre was ready. 
It is ready. 

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You can have it installed and 
pumping in one shift. 400 to 600

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litres per second in. 
We're out. 

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That's a friggin cat triple. 770
thousand litres filled up in 3 

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1/2 minutes, normally 45 
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Boys, boys, boys. 
Dust suppression, Turkey's nest 

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replacements, friggin camp 
water, civil works, Maddie's 

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Halls. 
Numbers in the show notes. 

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What more do I need to cite? 
They'll do the install. 

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As well. 
Oh. 

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That's right JD mate. 
Now we've now we've gotten wet 

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again. 
Let's go get Tucker and Diamond.

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Let's do it so I convert that 
right? 

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Like I said, fucking KV we we 
could workplace rock up there. 

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You're like, fuck, we're on. 
This is this is great, great 

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work environment. 
The opposite of that, right? 

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Like you, you, you, you sent, 
you sent to it when we first 

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met, you know, like you sent 
somewhere you like. 

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And you realise day one this is 
going to be really fucking. 

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Hard. 
Horrific. 

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What does it look like? 
There's two, there's two 

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variations of horrific. 
There's horrific because the 

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ground shit, the infrastructure 
shit, you got no vent as hot as 

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Satan's asshole. 
Like for ground? 

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Ground shit means it's so it's 
it's gonna be. 

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Seismic the ground. 
None, none. 

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Not hard, this is. 
Not an issue the. 

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Shit ground is for us is purely 
like lots of structure, lots of 

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lights, so rocks fall off and 
fuck you up. 

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Basically it's all about getting
hurt. 

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So shit ground is like and. 
You can't drill through. 

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It. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So. 
Shit back everything off in 

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order to make it happen. 
Yeah, so shit. 

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That's what I mean by shit 
ground and it or it's seismic, 

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because the ground could be 
fucking Hollywood, you know, but

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if you get a four or five 
magnitude seismic event, fucking

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it doesn't matter how good it 
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Like still big bundies are going
to come. 

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Like, you know, shit's going to 
happen, you know, so that that 

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that's my definition of shit 
ground. 

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And like, fuck, when it's hot, I
can I don't care who you are, 

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man. 
Like you've already got so much 

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temper. 
Like I got a split personality, 

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much like Dharma. 
Like I am the most, I am the 

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most quite chill guy. 
I have beer, spin yards. 

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I've got a million good comeback
sayings to everything but fuck 

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boy if I'm hot man give. 
Me give me about 30 seconds, I 

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don't know. 
Man, but I love learn over 

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what's. 
The breaking temperature like. 

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It's a time until. 
Time until I feel hot. 

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Yeah, but, and it's also like 
it's in your head. 

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If you have a time at home and 
you're like, shit's going on 

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you, you probably, your temper's
fucking short. 

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So then you get hot and you bend
a bolt or fucking, you blow a 

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hose or whatever, Then you like,
you're there, like you're angry 

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because. 
But the heat exacerbates it 

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infinitely. 
Yeah, like everything, you know,

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you feel worn out. 
It's exhausting, like being in a

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fucking. 
Well, it's 11 hours straight. 

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In a sauna, essentially, you 
know what I mean? 

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It's like people just, I don't 
think they realised. 

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But it can happen in the 1st 10 
minutes of the day. 

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Yeah, I can roll down to the 
jumbo, start it up, drill a 

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hole, do a Shank, go out to 
change it. 

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And it's that fucking hot that 
I'm furious straight away. 

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Yeah, look, it's the worst, man.
It brings it out to you because 

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it just puts your fucking blood 
pressure to here off the calf. 

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And I'll go from zero to 100, 
man. 

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For something as simple as 
changing a Shank. 

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Yeah, you know what I mean? 
It's nothing. 

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I'll change that because like, 
my nippers know, man. 

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Because I'm like fucking, I'm 
like, as soon as it starts 

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spiralling, I'll be like, it's 
fucking spiralling. 

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Shut the door. 
So the fucking air con. 

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Because like, you know, the air 
con's not good for fuck all 

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really with the door open. 
But you feel like a shit, you 

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bloody all sorts out there 
busting his whole way. 

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So like, you know, so like you 
got the you got the door open. 

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Once it starts spoiling, I could
feel, I feel like feel the blood

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pressure, feel my anger coming. 
You can't punch the computer 

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screen 'cause they fuck you used
to be able to punch the heaps 

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other shit. 
It's all good and you can't do 

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that. 
You gotta pay down. 

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Everything's fucking delicate, 
chair, you gotta turn. 

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Around and punch your chair. 
Everything is. 

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Awkward. 
Everything's intelligent. 

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Yeah, you can't get. 
A good swing on it. 

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Yeah, it's fucking shit. 
You still, like smash your heart

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out on the dash and fucking yeah
but like, but now it's like, I 

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just know it's coming, man. 
I know it's coming to like shut 

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the door. 
Like you still get it like it's 

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just, it's there. 
Like, but when you you got the 

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heat is there faster and it's 
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Like it's, it's one of those 
things, those conditions are 

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fucking like the big difference,
you know? 

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Oh, and even get Oregon, the 
worst was getting to work. 

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I remember when we at fucking 
Invicta for instance. 

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Like shallow mind fucking. 
You'd be at your jambo at 6:15. 

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Yeah. 
And you just like you're on, 

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you're starting because you got 
like everyone's getting paid on 

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contract. 
Something to do go to like a, 

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you know, Telfer or a fucking 
Golden Grove. 

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Or something. 
Like deep spread out, you've got

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one Ute dropping 3 jumbo 
operators off in three different

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parts of the mine, get to your 
jumbo 8830 and then frigging 

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it's broken down. 
You don't get gained or 9:30 and

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you're just, you're peaking 
before you've even started. 

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Yeah. 
And then so when they talk about

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deep mines and all this, like 
mines are just every mine, Mines

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aren't mine. 
Like some mines are so 

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different. 
Exactly, man. 

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Yeah, just getting the fucking 
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Sometimes environments a big 
thing for quality of a mind, but

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like environment could be 
irrelevant if you were with 

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heaps of JCS. 
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You know that has taken off all 
because of you Tucker. 

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We we sold we did hats 100 hats 
with GC1TO GCA 100 and someone 

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bought GC one for 1100 bucks. 
Holy shit G the word GC is taken

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off. 
If you sign up to our email, 

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everyone gets AGC number 
sequentially in the order they 

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sign up. 
We're up to like GC 14,000 

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today. 
I'll bring it in. 

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I'll better get on to that. 
I'll better get it rolled. 

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I want GC0. 
I want a reprint. 

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I want fucking. 
I want the. 

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OGGC nice girl actually got it. 
Hold on, what about the? 

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But the biggest thing like 
sorry, so like environmental, 

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but the, I reckon the biggest 
thing that makes or breaks a job

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is management is management 
like. 

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Which levels? 
All all the way to the top. 

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Shift all the way to the top and
fucking yeah if you've if then 

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It's not even that being 
approachable. 

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It's like, man, if you roll into
work and you got a boss stand up

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there telling you you're all 
fucking essays like. 

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Not a good way to start your. 
Day, you know you like cool, got

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12 hours of fucking misery in a 
shit hole. 

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Like you know you're already sad
as fuck because you're at work. 

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Like you know, it's like it just
compounds like management can 

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make or break a job. 
What some of the best jobs I've 

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worked. 
And like we're talking like all 

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the infrastructures there, good 
flights, good food, camps, 

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wicked rah rah. 
But their management are just 

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awful. 
Like they've all got egos or 

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they've all got whatever, 
whatever, whatever, combination 

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of whatever. 
And the morale of everyone is so

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shit. 
It's horrific. 

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It is horrific to work and 
you've got 12 hours surrounded 

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by people that are so fucking 
sad because the environment has 

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made them so fucking sad. 
It's fucking depressing as fuck.

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And I but it should be good it. 
Should be good, but you're like 

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everything's fucking awesome, 
but everyone is so fucking sad 

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and hating their life and you go
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You're like, fuck, this is the 
biggest shit hole and water 

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dripping from the from the backs
is like pure salt lava and it's 

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burning everything of you and 
like everything's hard and 

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fucked and it's hot and you'd 
like, but then everyone's 

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cheaper and fucking good and 
like it works and works and 

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management support you because I
know it sucks us, but like we 

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know it sucks us. 
What can we do to help? 

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Like fuck, you know what I mean?
You help each other and they're 

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the fucking best jobs. 
You knock off everyone has 

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beers, fucking laughs like fuck,
that was horrific down the you 

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know, but like it's it's good. 
They're the good jobs like like 

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management us such a fucking big
part of making a job good or 

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fucking awful. 
And I've worked all of them, I 

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reckon. 
And I and I've always found that

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they tend to go hand in hand. 
Look, the shit places are full 

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of GCS, Yeah, always because you
have to. 

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Yeah, I I know it's amazing, but
'cause if you, if you go there 

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with your shit attitude. 
Fuck off, I'm. 

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Always gonna it's. 
Already shit fucking get the 

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fuck away. 
From you, Sure. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Look, Oh, well, you're good for 

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fuck all. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Carry on. 
And but what you find is that 

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your attitude, will. 
I don't know, you'll infect the 

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people around you to an extent. 
You know what I mean? 

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Look, 100% have you ever noticed
that when you're angry on the 

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jumbo, your nip is mad and he 
starts doing dumb shit? 

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Yeah, yeah, you've got to pull 
him up. 

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He's just because I'm angry, 
don't start rushing around. 

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I'm. 
I'm my own environment now you. 

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Just do you just do everything 
the same as I've told you, you 

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do it every day and we'll just 
be fine. 

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But if everyone's happy, 
everyone helps each other, 

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everyone's all good. 
Like if everyone, if someone's 

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got shit going on at home but 
everyone's cheaper, everyone's 

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like yo how, how's mum doing? 
All good fucking you. 

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Know like, you know and like and
so the environment is different.

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Like you might be have shit 
going on but all the boys are 

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like and girls are asking and 
fuck we don't sit and have DN Ms

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when the men just don't really 
do that anymore. 

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But they check in on you. 
Anyway, but they check in and 

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then you might have a little 
spear while you fucking hate 

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doing a four inch joiner up in 
the basket. 

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You might be telling your woes 
or whatever, but because you can

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do that and you have that 
environment, it's all good. 

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Whereas if you like everyone's 
sad as fuck and then you're sad 

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you got shit going on at home, 
it's it is the most. 

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Compounds at 8. 
It's it's awful man, like. 

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Even though the job's horrific, 
if everyone is all good and 

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everyone's looking after each 
other, it's fucking it's just 

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shit. 
Like you just get on with it. 

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Every shit job I ever worked at 
made me sad to leave, you know 

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what I mean? 
Because it was but. 

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You know you've got to go. 
You like the ground shit out as 

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hot? 
As not even like I have a point 

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when I start saying I'm going to
snatch it, that's it. 

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I'm not talking about it. 
I'm just fucking out of here. 

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See you later. 
Well, that's it. 

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That's it, man. 
Quick, quick. 

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Quick, so I get so fed up with 
Lachlan. 

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You hear that same old joker 
that flies in every day. 

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Oh, 13 to go or whatever and 
then that's. 

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Me 7 to go on the plane but I do
it cheaper 'cause I'm like. 

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Yeah, 'cause you're happy about 
it. 

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The jokers that rolling. 
Fuck, this place just got cooked

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brisket on the fucking menu. 
Ah, dinner was shit. 

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Yeah, Cup, you fucking parrot. 
You know, look, get out of here.

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Yeah, well, if you're whinging 
about the fact you don't have to

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cook and clean for yourself or 
you're probably just fuckhead 

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anyway, but like, you know what 
I mean? 

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I just, I hate that the guy that
fucking sits there and whinges 

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and says he's going to snatch it
every day. 

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Well, I don't believe a fucking 
word you say, so fuck off and do

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it already. 
Like, yeah. 

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So if I start saying that 
myself, I know that's it. 

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I just said no, no more talking.
Look, see you later. 

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Yeah, I'm done. 
But you. 

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You. 
Become once you get to that 

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point where you're like, fuck, 
this job sucks. 

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And and once you fight you, once
you turn that negative and you 

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find that negative, you become 
like you will find a million 

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negatives, anything like, you 
know, I could sit here and be 

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like fucking Maddie's head shit 
hats all upside and like you can

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just find whatever you want. 
And if you do that, but then you

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project that on everyone else. 
And you attract it on, I'll just

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fucking put a deposit on a 
caravan. 

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But for the last two months 
we've been looking for caravans.

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Now everywhere I go, I see 
caravans. 

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Yeah, if I keep saying 
something. 

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Shit, I'm going to find the shit
things and I'm just going to 

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discredit all the positivity 
that's around it. 

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Like you've got to if you just 
keep saying, look, fuck, this 

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place is horrible, but he's a 
good luck. 

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Yeah, yeah, you'll just find 
good, you know, Look, yeah, it 

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just happens. 
It's it's one of those things, I

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think. 
But fuck, that's just how it is.

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Or you're probably given a good 
insight in terms of when say 

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fucking The xx gold company 
comes out and they've misguided 

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by 10% and they're blind 
management and workforce. 

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But holy snap and duck shit, 
there's some shit that goes into

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it on a daily basis. 
To. 

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Draw and get that one number 
that they fucking measure at the

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end of the fucking quarter, 
isn't it because. 

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It's the only one that matters. 
But also, but also that's the 

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difference when turning a job 
around as well, like, oh, we 

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didn't get our targets because 
everyone fucking hates their 

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life and the bogger drivers are 
fucking hiding at 4:00 and 

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telling the truck drivers to 
fuck off and charge. 

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I was like, I'm not fucking 
charging that too hard. 

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You know, jumbos, like fuck, 
these have been busting my whole

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day and there's no event, no 
one's no me fucking, I'm parking

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up. 
If everyone, if everyone's like 

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that, then then obviously, 
obviously you're going to get 

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less as well. 
Whereas if everyone helps 

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everyone, it's like Jumbo pulls 
out light fucking goes down and 

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helps charge up, charge their 
cut. 

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Like you know what I mean? 
Like if everyone helps everyone,

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the morale is good and all that,
then it all flows back and then 

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all of a sudden you've got all 
your tonnes, you've got all your

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metres, everyone's cane, 
everyone looks after everyone 

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like it's not that hard. 
They go hand in hand, they go 

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hand in hand. 
So you might have a good boss 

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that might be really good out of
aspect of his job, but if he's 

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got fucking shit people skills 
or a grop against something, 

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whatever, like and that shit 
flows back down into the 

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workforce, like from a higher 
up, you might not see it, but 

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you know, we see it. 
We fight you. 

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It is fucking 100% effects so 
much man, so much. 

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It's probably. 
Been like a correlation between 

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like your experience as a jumbo 
operator and the share market. 

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Like if you ever notice, I can 
fuck you know you. 

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Maybe you can read the tea 
leaves or they're completely. 

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Different. 
I, I fucking I never, I never 

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correlate it at all. 
What? 

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Yeah, I just do my job and go 
home and forget that I even have

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a job for a week, basically. 
Do you know if they're on target

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or off target for a for a court 
line if you can't? 

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We, we just get our schedule, 
man. 

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We we just get our. 
I tell you all, we need this 

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this amount because we're 
behind. 

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No, not where else I am now. 
We used to it John Day, we used 

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to get like that, that was our 
monthly, quarterly or we used to

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get all those targets. 
We don't at the moment. 

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We just get our weight. 
Like I just worry about our 

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weight to reschedule. 
Literally our weekly schedules 

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are we fly in, finish off the 
last day of the last week's 

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schedule, and then we start our 
schedule and it's all about just

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achieving our schedule. 
Like fuck you hope you've got 

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good planners, you got good 
engineers, you got all those 

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other people doing their job 
together. 

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I'm not worried about all that. 
Like that's their job to worry 

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about all that shit. 
My job is just to drill the 

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holes and and get that schedule 
every week. 

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I don't worry about monthly 
quarter. 

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I don't even look at it, don't 
even care because it's and it 

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can change too, like the market 
changes and all of a sudden the 

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lithium price is up and where 
going into all these all bodies 

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we've gone past because they 
were economically feasible and 

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all of a sudden they are so like
the schedule and and planning 

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and everything fucking changes 
it and women that change that. 

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That's every mind. 
But you've never been working 

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somewhere where it's like. 
No direct correlation at all. 

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Not at all. 
It's. 

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Definitely somewhere where 
you're like, you know, you 

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suddenly realise their taper and
fucking CapEx, the doll and the 

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spend back massively and then 
like you know, you can read the 

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play, you know, care and 
maintenance is around. 

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The corner. 
Oh, sorry, with regards to that,

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definitely soon as the. 
Diamond. 

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Soon as the diamond drillers 
leave. 

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Yeah, as soon as the diamond 
drillers leave, you got. 

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And this old guy told me this, 
you've got three to six months 

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and you'd be fucking looking for
a job. 

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And I've had it twice, both in 
nickel. 

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Yeah. 
But Yep, soon as the diamond 

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drillers. 
Same. 

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Soon as the diamond drillers 
fuck off because I guess the 

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margins are so shit with nickel.
That's my theory, yeah. 

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But it's hard in a place that 
has minimal diamond drillers 

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too. 
You know what I mean? 

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Look where where I am now, John 
Day, we've got 16 rigs. 

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00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,400
Yeah, yeah, unheard of. 
Look, I've never seen that many 

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in one spot. 
But when like we're talking. 

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These are under underground 
diamond. 

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Drill, Yeah, yeah. 
So they, so basically they've 

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obviously drilled from the 
surface and mapped and they, 

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they. 
Stopped doing development like 

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this because the the the they've
stopped adding fucking reserves.

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Basically, and but all all 
they're. 

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Finding. 
They're finding where we're 

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going, yeah. 
They're on They're. 

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00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,359
Mapping what they've said, yeah.
So if they stop mapping, they've

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either lost it, it's not there, 
or yeah, the capital stopped or 

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whatever. 
Insert whatever reason as soon 

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as the diamond drill is fuck 
off. 

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You got three to six months. 
Especially at a site where 

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there's only got 2 rigs. 
Yeah, been there twice. 

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00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,200
Aye, twice. 
Can you talk about either of 

378
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those? 
Oh, it was a long time ago. 

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00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,880
Yeah. 
Like, yeah, we're talking about 

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15 years plus. 
But like, and like, both of them

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were fucking right near 
Christmas, too. 

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What a good time to get a job, 
right? 

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Doctor Drillers leave. 
Maddie, you got. 33 to six 

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months, that's my experience. 
Like like. 

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You know. 
If you have a diamond drilling 

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programme and they're coming 
into not prove up the ore body, 

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but just basically give GEOS a 
guide to design that's different

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between you're developing 
towards this ore body and the 

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diamond rollers are there to 
like prove it up essentially. 

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Then all of a sudden they fuck 
off and you finish raping and 

391
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pillaging, you know, whatever 
ore drives you've got, like, and

392
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then all of a sudden you fly. 
Like we literally have flown in,

393
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gone to work, been told fucking 
the show's over, go back to your

394
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room, pack shit, there's a plane
coming tomorrow. 

395
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Fucking say a ladder. 
On the peace, no worries. 

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Fell. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, blonde as well as dogs 
straight, absolutely bad plane 

398
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fucking no good. 
But like, but then all of a 

399
00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,280
sudden you're out of work and 
it's like fuck Roddo ringing 

400
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everyone. 
Like, you know, this is when I 

401
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was like, I was good fuck all 
now too. 

402
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,720
But like, yeah. 
We're fucking, we're guilty 

403
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,840
inside. 
So was it? 

404
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,640
Yeah, but was it Carnally Hill? 
Yeah, right. 

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00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,680
Minkle I think owned it. 
I think. 

406
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,200
I can't remember the other one 
as well. 

407
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,640
Long, long time ago now. 
But yeah, it was. 

408
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,440
And like all nighty, pretty 
fresh. 

409
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,160
Was fresh to the industry there,
you know? 

410
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,680
And I was just like, what the 
fuck? 

411
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,680
You know, I had it. 
I had it at Waterloo and it was 

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fucking Lionel. 
Yeah, yeah, a while ago, but 

413
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they were, they were fucking 
transparent, man, Like they were

414
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so that. 
Was that was that was nickel, 

415
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,680
wasn't it? 
Yeah. 

416
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Nickel and one of the one. 
Of the 1st gym contracts. 

417
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,360
The first GFC, yeah, so it was 
massive and they were 

418
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transparent as fuck. 
So we would have meetings and 

419
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,240
you know, you see in the news 
the fucking prices going down, 

420
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stuff like that. 
And these guys would be like, 

421
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look at 12,000 and a tonne. 
We're still making money. 

422
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If it hits 8000, start looking 
for another job and they don't. 

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Told you straight, that's 
awesome. 

424
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I fucking respected that a lot 
more than just being awesome. 

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We just. 
Got called out and got told fuck

426
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off. 
Yeah, twice. 

427
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,840
Yeah, well. 
It was irrelevant in the end 

428
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anyway 'cause I just got on the 
piece, fucked it all up and. 

429
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Sacked. 
How many times you got sacked 

430
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for blowing the breath out, 
Dharma? 

431
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Probably four or five. 
I think this is stoked about it.

432
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,200
Not allowed to do it anymore. 
She's a good woman. 

433
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,680
She is a good. 
She is the fucking best woman, 

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Bridget. 
Elder. 

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00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,120
I agree. 
Yeah, fuck, I agree. 

436
00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,200
She's a good woman. 
I think she's pretty fucking 

437
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,600
good. 
She keeps me in lining. 

438
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080
Yeah. 
What about, OK things in the 

439
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,200
industry that have changed over 
your time or run through them? 

440
00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:14,680
What about is there more women 
working with the underground 

441
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now? 
Than we are there I can heaps 

442
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,240
more. 
I remember when I first started,

443
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there was one chick, she was a 
GO. 

444
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That was it. 
Yeah, they're either G OS or 

445
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engineers. 
That was it. 

446
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Back in the early days, that 
was. 

447
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Like we're talking oh fuck GBF 
had like 3 jumbo lols the 30 man

448
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cruisers big big job man Argo. 
Yeah. 

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And like 1 Jerry for the client 
for Saint Olives, man, that was 

450
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,320
it. 
Like 1 Sheila. 

451
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,880
Yeah, they listen. 
I. 

452
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,240
Listen to your party with Maddie
on what he's mining on his old 

453
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,920
life of mine before you come in.
And you were talking about like,

454
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,200
like the, you know, women in 
workforce and you, you're like, 

455
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,120
mate, they work so much fucking 
smarter. 

456
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,680
Yeah, yeah, and that's why, 
that's why the people lie, 

457
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,760
because they lie. 
They they think about shit a bit

458
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,920
more. 
Like when you're young, dumb and

459
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,400
full of cum. 
Fuck the dumb shit we do as 

460
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,920
blokes fucking. 
It's like when you oh man, it's 

461
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,480
so. 
But but not even like. 

462
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,280
Yeah, yeah, just. 
Not even like be inappropriate 

463
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,960
about it, like I like having the
women on site because they think

464
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,240
about it more. 
Like I tell them all anyone that

465
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,240
works around me or near me. 
I said, you're not as strong in 

466
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,200
the boys, so you need to be 
smarter. 

467
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,720
You've got to think about what 
you're doing and you need to 

468
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,520
actually pay attention to how 
it's done. 

469
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,200
And but they take it on board 
better than the the young 

470
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,880
fellas. 
Like the young boys, if they 

471
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,120
fuck something up, they can 
usually manhandle their way out 

472
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:35,160
of it. 
Booga, booga. 

473
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,440
You know, booga, everything just
turned into whereas like, if 

474
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,920
you're like fucking this big, 
what? 

475
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,280
You would you would remember 
Jasmine Milia? 

476
00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:45,440
Yeah, it's both years. 
We both work with jazz. 

477
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,200
Shout out jazz. 
Fucking shout out to Jazz. 

478
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160
She called me Dad. 
She was a baldy with Grandpa. 

479
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600
Yeah. 
But watching her try to lift 

480
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,080
mesh, the bruises she would have
just from fighting it because 

481
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,520
she wasn't physically strong 
enough. 

482
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,640
But at the same time I told her,
I said you've. 

483
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,040
Got to just. 
You have to be smarter than 

484
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,480
this, and you've got to work 
better than the boys. 

485
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,000
Look, I don't give a fuck how 
you do it. 

486
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,480
You got to make it work for 
yourself. 

487
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,760
And credit to her, she did. 
She was a fucking little weapon 

488
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,480
by the end of it. 
She was fucking good. 

489
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,880
She's one of the better nippers 
I've had over the years. 

490
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,560
Look, so anyone that says there 
isn't a place for them in the 

491
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,280
workforce is fucking shit. 
There's fucking all, Wood Dead 

492
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,320
said. 
I'll take a woman cross shift on

493
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,120
the bogger any day. 
I'd take them like you'd take. 

494
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,600
Oh, they're good. 
Fuck, I've had some legends work

495
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,760
with me if I can't remember now,
it's been that long ago. 

496
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,720
But fuck, they've got something 
to prove, their attention to 

497
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,880
details. 
Unreal. 

498
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,680
They're fucking good to get 
along with and they just. 

499
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,240
Friendliness, man. 
Fuck, I was going to say that's 

500
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,760
probably the only growth is 
they're so fucking clean. 

501
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,960
Then you're like fucking knock 
off. 

502
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,640
You're like fuck, gotta fucking 
clean all the clean my fucking 

503
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560
shit up because you're rolling 
and everything is fucking, you 

504
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,720
know, because they're like 
pedantic and it's awesome. 

505
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,920
But like fuck cross shift you, 
man. 

506
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,840
I mean used to be like I reckon 
I could scrape and not fucking 

507
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,640
rolly fucking like tobacco off 
the dashes and I don't even 

508
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,280
smoke. 
I reckon I can roll it up and 

509
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,360
smoke. 
You'd be like Bolton just 

510
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:17,280
fucking rolling darts every shit
everywhere and like, but I 

511
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760
didn't give a fuck. 
I'd just like blow it, whatever.

512
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,800
Never been like, you know, over 
there. 

513
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280
You roll and you cross shift a 
Sheila. 

514
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,760
And the vast majority, they're 
fucking good at what they do. 

515
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,880
But that they, they, they clean 
up as like, you know, and so 

516
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840
then you feel guilty. 
You're like fuck sake, like, 

517
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,240
because I never felt guilty with
you. 

518
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,920
Who gives a fuck? 
He's an animal too. 

519
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,960
Like it's all good. 
That's like, right. 

520
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,520
I'm out there fucking cleaning 
the window. 

521
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,360
I'm fucking picking up shit 
like, you know, yeah, but it's 

522
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,440
not a bad thing. 
They raise your standards, don't

523
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,680
they? 
Like, you know, yeah. 

524
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,720
I was, I was on the fucking 
bogger band and cross shifting 

525
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,320
and Sheila and it was, was 
demoralising. 

526
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,960
She was way better on the 
bogging than me when I first got

527
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,800
on it and it was fucking 
Immaculate. 

528
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,680
This thing was like perfect 
everyday armour all to the 

529
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,680
fuckery. 
Windows are clean, like 

530
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,720
everything's perfect and on here
I am. 

531
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,800
Can't bog to fucking save 
myself. 

532
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,560
Yeah, fucked everything. 
Just tagged that pump. 

533
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,080
Fuck the cable out there. 
Look, the most useless gun in 

534
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,360
the world and I'll come out and 
I still can't clean the fucking 

535
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,480
thing properly, you know what I 
mean? 

536
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,280
And this Sheila should come in. 
She's tiny. 

537
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,560
All my shit up. 
Fix everything. 

538
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,800
The problem is I spend all your 
time trying to keep up. 

539
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,480
You got no time to clean mate. 
I can't even get fucking. 

540
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,320
Useless. 
Yeah, I was too busy doing 

541
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,440
incident reports. 
I was. 

542
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,360
Good for nothing. 
Jeez, jeez, I think if bloody 

543
00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:34,000
Tucker and Dharma get over the 
jumbo, wouldn't they be a good 

544
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,320
fit for Kydrill Punch and Arse 
and Diamond Isles? 

545
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,920
You're on something. 
Can you? 

546
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Can you imagine Tucker Dharma, 
Drew Harvey and Ron O'Sullivan 

547
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,400
in the one business? 
The the passion of the 

548
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,240
excitement, the ability to 
execute, the vast deeps 

549
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,200
knowledge, the vibes, the people
that were thrilled to meet Drew 

550
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,400
Harvey at our Christmas party on
Tuesday night. 

551
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,040
They were. 
I've got to shake his hand. 

552
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,560
Took a bit of pressure off us 
having Drew over there. 

553
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,800
That's it. 
It was good. 

554
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,120
Like, well, they I've, I've 
pieced it together because 

555
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,440
Dharma, as he's just mentioned, 
he's got the historical ACM 

556
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,360
link, West gold board ACM. 
Yep, K drill are now punching in

557
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,680
holes for West gold. 
That's right. 

558
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,720
There you go, mate. 
There you go. 

559
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,880
Perfect fit. 
They're firing up in the 

560
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,440
industry. 
K drill backed by an absolute 

561
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,000
bunch of GCS, absolute experts 
in exploration drilling. 

562
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,200
It's great to be on the K drill 
journey. 

563
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800
And as you said, jeez, it was 
good to have a pint with Druba. 

564
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,880
Sure would. 
Sure. 

565
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,920
Would JD? 
Sure. 

566
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,720
Was mate sure right. 
Give him a call. 

567
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,680
Go K drill. 
What about face mesh? 

568
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,000
This would be dear to your 
heart. 

569
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,600
This is something probably 
newer. 

570
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,560
Is it nearly mandatory now? 
You probably don't have it where

571
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,560
you are, right? 
No, no, not so much. 

572
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,440
I'm all for it man. 
Yeah I'm all for it. 

573
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,240
It's not a headings off charge 
fucking stop all load bays where

574
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,680
it's 7 metres plus. 
Fuck it's you know, it's hard to

575
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,480
get perspective as a normal as a
person just in the city if you 

576
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,640
measured up 7 metres and looked 
up 7 metres of dead. 

577
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,280
Hair rolls out there. 
We're talking. 

578
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,200
We're talking about a jumbo 
face. 

579
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,280
It's like. 
A the end of it. 

580
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,240
Now we are now there's like 
mesh. 

581
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,200
Charge up, charge UPS down there
and there's no mesh there and 

582
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,200
he's charging up and I've been 
almost one of my biggest fucking

583
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000
injuries. 
We just thank fuck I didn't get 

584
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,120
a big slab come down while I was
charging the burn low but lucky 

585
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,360
I was leaning over hit me flat 
on the back. 

586
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Like if it had been the other 
way I would like fucking slice 

587
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,760
me in half like basically you 
know. 

588
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,520
So I'm all for face mesh, but 
you know a coke can from 7 

589
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,400
metres? 
Fucking. 

590
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,240
Hurts like get someone to go up 
to a second balcony or first 

591
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,520
balconies, get 7 metres and drop
that fucker on your head. 

592
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,360
Like I can guarantee you that 
shit will fuck you up. 

593
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,520
Like you know what I mean? 
So if you can put face mesh up 

594
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,280
and eliminate that, why? 
Why would you not? 

595
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,640
Is it, is it considerate? 
Do you notice it considerably? 

596
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,400
Size. 
It probably doesn't get taken 

597
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,760
into account when everyone's 
like development metres per 

598
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,760
jumbo you add face face mesh 
into the cycle. 

599
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040
How much do you reckon that 
slows the whole cycle down? 

600
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,200
Fuck all if you're worth your 
weight on in Jumbo. 

601
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Man, how long does it take you 
to put it up where you are 

602
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,480
fucking? 
15 minutes no. 

603
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Baby fuck pre draw the holes. 
Fucking 5 minutes. 6 minutes. 

604
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,520
As hard as things pick in the 
bath has, if you nip as good, 

605
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,440
he'll paint halfway. 
Oh, you get 55 squares down? 

606
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,080
Yeah, and you literally pick it 
up, bang it straight in. 

607
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:35,600
You've already drilled the 
other. 

608
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,600
How many holes? 
Yeah, it's 4 minutes. 

609
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,200
Fuck all their black bolts. 
It's all waste. 

610
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,680
But then you know it's a four 
and a half metre long shade of 

611
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,640
mesh. 2 1/2 metres. 2.4 metres. 
If it's a 5 metre Dr, you've 

612
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,520
just eliminated half that drive 
hot where all the fucking shit 

613
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,680
that's gonna fuck? 
I'd rather a rock fallen two men

614
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,520
has hit me than fucking five. 
Yeah, yeah, I'm all for it man. 

615
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,560
I'll have all for it. 
I'm all for drive all drives. 

616
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:05,240
All of them. 
Everything. 

617
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,680
It's a double edged sword 
Sometimes I find like because it

618
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,920
makes people lazy. 
If I'm gonna put that face 

619
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,440
Mitchell, I'm not gonna fucking 
scale it as. 

620
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,320
Much fucking always yeah, it 
makes absolutely right away 

621
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,280
yeah, because I I. 
I'll scale to be fucking hands. 

622
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,280
Yeah, I I used to fucking. 
I agree. 

623
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,560
I've done my cowboy day. 
But then like I've worked with 

624
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:22,920
people. 
What? 

625
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Is scaling, sorry. 
That's when you're chipping the 

626
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,480
shit. 
Off once we've blasted the face 

627
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,640
and they bogged it out, when you
roll in and before you start 

628
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,200
installing the ground sport, you
scale basically, basically 

629
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,200
knocking all the rock, all the 
loose blasted rock off. 

630
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640
So we scale the face so it's all
it's been blasted, it's all been

631
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,360
fired. 
So it's all fractured. 

632
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,040
You can half ass Scarlett. 
Oh good. 

633
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,320
You might get away with it 1000 
times, but it's the one time. 

634
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,280
But it's not my biggest thing is
it's not me getting hurt. 

635
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,720
I'm I'm fucked off. 
I'm somewhere else bending 

636
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,400
bolts. 
It's it's the mate that I drink 

637
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,440
beers with in there charging it 
that fucking loses an art, you 

638
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,040
know what I mean? 
Like. 

639
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,040
It was only me that I had to 
worry about. 

640
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,560
I wouldn't give a fuck. 
Yeah, because then I can deal 

641
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,080
with the consequences of your 
own actions. 

642
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160
But the fact that I could hurt 
someone else? 

643
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,280
The old that's. 
What upsets me about it? 

644
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,760
Hit a certain age, had kids 
matured like we spoke about that

645
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,640
when you had your other thing, 
certain aspects of my life. 

646
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,280
I'm taking a picture. 
It's like fuck, man, like you, 

647
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,560
it's my job, my responsibility 
to make, you know, I don't give 

648
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280
a fuck. 
I'll sit down and scout for an 

649
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,640
hour if I'm going to that's what
I'm going to do. 

650
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,320
That's what I'm going to do, 
man, because I want to be a 

651
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,280
backing out of there, going to 
my next job or coming back, 

652
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,280
drill in the face and then, you 
know, give me mate the thumbs up

653
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,000
as I pull out and he goes to 
charge it. 

654
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Now that I've done everything I 
can do to make that job safe, as

655
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,640
safe as possible. 
I don't know, it sounds wank 

656
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,960
because that's all we ever hear.
Fucking make the job fucking 

657
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160
safe like rah rah. 
And that's all it's all we ever 

658
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,400
hear. 
But I try and do that as. 

659
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,720
You got to scale it as much as 
it needs in my. 

660
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,320
My theory was you got to scale 
it as if you're boring it 

661
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,120
because like there's a lot of 
the times that where you'd bolt 

662
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
it, you'd you'd scale the backs,
you'd bolt the heading, then 

663
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,880
you'd scale the face, then you 
hand it over to the your cross 

664
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,640
shift to bore the heading and 
you're thinking, well, I'm not 

665
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240
boring it. 
So you're not thinking scaling 

666
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320
the fuck out of the bottom bit 
because you got to put your 

667
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,280
lifters in because you're you're
like, I'm not the one going to 

668
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,440
do it like mentality. 
Yeah, you got to Scarlett as if 

669
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,200
you were going to be, because 
you got to if you don't Scarlett

670
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,920
enough. 
Like, you're going to go out 

671
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,760
there, right? 
Right at the place, yeah. 

672
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,800
All the rock builds up, you 
can't form the hole to put your 

673
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,160
lifter tube in and fuck me, it 
can take you half an hour. 

674
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,760
But it can be a nightmare, yeah.
Someone tell me if you wouldn't 

675
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,480
send your kids out there to do 
it, it's not good enough. 

676
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,040
Yeah. 
Yeah, that's it. 

677
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Like that, that was, that was 
good for me. 

678
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,960
I'm like, fucking like, yeah, I 
understand the risks. 

679
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320
We're not, it's a, it's a risky 
job. 

680
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,680
We work in an underground mine, 
but I want to do that job good 

681
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,080
enough that I would send my kids
out and kick the soccer ball 

682
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,120
against it, you know what I 
mean? 

683
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,920
Like basically that's why I look
at. 

684
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,040
It it's a four metre hole and 
it's pulled 3 metres so you got 

685
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600
a metre of shit that hasn't 
fallen off. 

686
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,480
What's fine? 
But it's all broken. 

687
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,920
It's fine. 
So pretty much you've got a hit 

688
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,760
it continuously and break that 
trader off because that 

689
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,840
penetrator until you get to the 
back of that. 

690
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,040
Penetrates the mess. 
Not so it is, really. 

691
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Yeah, yeah. 
Penetrate it deep. 

692
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,600
Yeah, that's right. 
Fuck, I was just to. 

693
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,120
A potty this morning and it was 
a. 

694
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Was it a Tucker potty? 
No. 

695
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,440
It was a different. 
One better not have been me. 

696
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,920
There'd be too many beeps in it,
no? 

697
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,640
It was like a a fundy and he was
like basically saying like he he

698
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:47,400
he shorts shorts the like if you
if you if you meet an MD and you

699
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,760
wouldn't be happy with your 
daughter marrying him fucking, 

700
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,640
you know, like. 
You know, but it's wrong, but 

701
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,640
it's. 
That's the test. 

702
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560
You got to, you got, you got to 
set your own personal level and 

703
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,840
like, like the expression is 
young, dumb and full of cum. 

704
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560
You got no kids, you got no 
commitments, you got fuck all. 

705
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,080
You just there to prove yourself
to yourself. 

706
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Like you know what I mean? 
So you like you're invincible? 

707
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760
I got like, I remember when I 
had kids, I got like that 

708
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,120
anxious underground from like 
especially with some fucking 

709
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,160
young dickhead driving around 
doing burnouts and I had kids. 

710
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Tell them to fucking slow down. 
But I'm like, I've got someone, 

711
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,360
I've got my my life in someones 
hands now and they're being fuck

712
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,560
heads and I'll just start. 
And that's half the reason I'll 

713
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,000
like, yeah, 'cause I had an 
option. 

714
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,040
I was like, fuck, like I was 
just starting to get so anxious,

715
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,560
'cause I'm like, fuck, I've got 
to control, I've got to control 

716
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,440
everyone else around me as well 
to keep me safe to. 

717
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,440
And it's just like, fuck it, 
just it's, it's a big job. 

718
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,080
I can control my environment to 
to a certain aspect. 

719
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,440
You know what I mean? 
Like but that's what I I 

720
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:56,160
implored as I want to feel 
fucking good that I'm sending me

721
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,480
mate to that job. 
Like I don't care. 

722
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,960
Like fucking the discussion we 
had earlier flat rate. 

723
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,360
But gentlemen, if I'm for on 
contract man, you get 10 scale 

724
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,960
marks on the face to make it 
look pretty. 

725
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,080
Well, this you'll be able to 
answer this one good. 

726
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,800
Dama. 
Here the over the years here the

727
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,520
the definition of when you go 
remote bogging compared to oh, 

728
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,080
free bogging. 
So when we talk free bogging, 

729
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,040
that's when a person is in the 
loader, taking the dirt out of 

730
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040
the stope and to the point where
they have to go in the heart and

731
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,480
operate it from the PlayStation.
The rule, because the rules have

732
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,280
changed of when what's 
considered the. 

733
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,440
Yeah, and. 
Since I was on a bogger like 

734
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400
this wall, that's a whole of the
world. 

735
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,400
Man, it was. 
We used to bog to the cab. 

736
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,480
You'd be like I remember looking
out below. 

737
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,600
Sweet be. 
Like oh, sorry, sorry, the brow 

738
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200
where the cab. 
Cab literally stopped at the 

739
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,320
last row of bolts like you would
if you're a no heading. 

740
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,440
Up Jesus Christ, Yeah. 
Man, you'd be like looking at, 

741
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,960
you'd be like, oh, yeah, fucking
sweet. 

742
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Like looking into the free Free 
Willy land. 

743
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Yeah. 
And then it become that's when 

744
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,000
halfway through the wheel. 
Yeah, halfway through the front 

745
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,440
tyre. 
And then the last I heard was 

746
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,800
like, as soon as the brow's 
cracked, put it on remote. 

747
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,639
Oh, is that? 
What it is? 

748
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,760
Now they haven't. 
They haven't. 

749
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,440
No, no, like. 
They have a nine metre cab mark 

750
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,719
I think is a general standard 
now. 

751
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,880
So basically what's that saying 
is that you, the person within 

752
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,600
the cab, won't be within 5 
metres of the exposed brow 

753
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,960
because of the distance of the 
bogger? 

754
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,159
Yeah, I. 
Don't hold me to that because I 

755
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,480
don't fucking bog anymore, but. 
I got a lot of good respect from

756
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,480
Stopes. 
I can't remember where I was 

757
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:37,520
working, but we were hole 
cleaning right at the brow and 

758
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,960
like, you know, fucking aerated 
hose jamming up there fucking 

759
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,400
and it come flapping out in the 
stop and the fucking start 

760
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,120
reeled. 
Yep man. 

761
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,639
It would come over the Bund, 
bury the front tyres of the IT 

762
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,840
and we're fucking stuck in the 
basket and but like adjusted the

763
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,239
whole level outside. 
Me and old mate, we're just like

764
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,840
lying in the bottom basket 
waiting for your imminent death.

765
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,240
It was awful, awful experience. 
Yeah, but for me, when I've got 

766
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:08,000
on a bogger, I like had the 
respect of like fucking like in 

767
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640
an instant, man. 
Like fucking that bitch reals 

768
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,440
like fucking so much mass is 
coming down at you. 

769
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,680
I had a awful experience which 
changed my tune and like made it

770
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,000
made me respect that I suppose. 
It wasn't till. 

771
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Later controlled now like yeah, 
you literally can't like 'cause 

772
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,080
as you said, the as soon as the 
bloody brows cracked or whatever

773
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,960
it's like 8 minute paint line 
that's fucking we're on the 

774
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,080
most. 
But isn't the remote the remotes

775
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,880
are that much better set up now?
Yes, there there's no need to. 

776
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,120
I remember being a little cuddy,
tiny cuddy and I'm fucking fat, 

777
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,880
barely bigger than me and I'm 
like hunched over like a fuck 

778
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600
with this harness thing on. 02 
Little choice. 

779
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,800
Line a side fucking watching the
load a lot fucking bogging and 

780
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,120
then you back it out and you get
out and jump into like that was 

781
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,640
my remote bogging like literally
like and then Chuck the harness 

782
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
in this thing and then jump in 
the load and go and tip it like.

783
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,360
Like times have changed out it 
out of trouble when you when 

784
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,080
you're fucked up. 
That was the only time I had to 

785
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,160
do it. 
So I started probably 2006. 

786
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,480
By then it was all fucking like 
1/3 of a seat container. 

787
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Yeah, telly hub, we used to have
a literally AP little PC fucking

788
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Land Cruiser. 
Yeah, yeah, the Troopy. 

789
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,360
Seat, Yeah. 
The Troopy had it. 

790
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,320
Yeah, that was that was like a 
plug in at the level and that 

791
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,320
that was telly remoting now 
fucking old mate sits on the 

792
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,520
surface in his fucking wanker 
boots. 

793
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Like yeah, it was it was an 
operator operates 4-5 loaders at

794
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,480
once. 
Like like times have changed man

795
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,240
remote loadings and it's 
efficient now it's like was it 

796
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,200
auto mine auto jam? 
Mine bloody. 

797
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,480
They separate four or five at 
once. 

798
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Yeah, there's, there's so many 
different programmes, but then 

799
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,720
they tram back all they got to 
do is basically tip and bog the 

800
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,560
bucket. 
Like, yeah, it like times have 

801
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,320
changed man, for the better 
really. 

802
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Because like, like, yeah, it's 
more productive, but you've 

803
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,440
eliminated the stupidity. 
The only problem it has is when 

804
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,160
the levels aren't checked 
properly. 

805
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,680
So the only the only issue I 
have with it is that the guy 

806
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,640
operating the machine isn't 
checking the level. 

807
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,200
Yeah, Yeah. 
You know what I mean, which is? 

808
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,760
You're relying on someone else 
to for the. 

809
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Sake of efficiency yeah, it's 
perfect you know you know what I

810
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,720
mean like he shouldn't have to 
drive down and fucking do it but

811
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,160
back to cutting corners you know
what I mean it's when that 

812
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,760
corner's cut that's where it all
goes fucking tits up because he.

813
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,720
Does he feel when he runs over 
Geo or he's operated in four? 

814
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,880
Or five machines if he's not 
looking at the same screen. 

815
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Yeah, yeah. 
And doing something else. 

816
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,280
He doesn't know what the fuck 
that load is doing yet Yeah and 

817
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,720
that's my only gripe with it 
yeah you know what I mean. 

818
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,080
I feel you should have a screen 
for every single machine. 

819
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840
So if you're going to drive 4 
boggers, you should be able to 

820
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080
live feed each one of them at 
the same time. 

821
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,160
That's that's my thoughts. 
Look. 

822
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,480
A bit more situational 
awareness. 

823
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,040
Yeah, yeah, 100%. 
You're ultimately you're in 

824
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,600
charge, especially. 
Because the laws. 

825
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,720
But don't they all have a screen
H or yourself? 

826
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,280
No, because you can cycle 
through screens so. 

827
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,040
OK. 
So you don't have all four lot? 

828
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,880
Yeah. 
No, it's, I think they should, 

829
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
you know what I mean? 
Because even if like, you're on 

830
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,040
a bogger, you've clearly been 
underground, you will still 

831
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,040
catch in your peripheral someone
fucking shining a light at you 

832
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,200
side to side. 
Instinct will just go fuck and 

833
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,680
you'll look for that. 
You know what I mean? 

834
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,560
I think so. 
Because the credit there, the 

835
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,960
critical control is that someone
has to check the level and then 

836
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,280
set the barriers. 
And that's true. 

837
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,040
You have to trust. 
Them you're sitting on the 

838
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,480
surface drinking lattes, you got
to trust. 

839
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,640
Them and. 
They might fucking have shit 

840
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,600
going on a home or they're 
fucking under the pump. 

841
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,120
They're maybe they're charged 
and they got fucking three cuts 

842
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,800
to charge. 
Fucking yeah. 

843
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,560
Fucking sweet. 
Hang the barrier, Reset the 

844
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,080
barrier, Send. 
It whatever it is and. 

845
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,840
Then you order send in it old 
mates in there licking rocks or 

846
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,520
fucking. 
Whatever case is, yeah. 

847
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,960
Who not you don't know. 
Like there's too much separation

848
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,800
there. 
Imagine. 

849
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,680
That's when that proximity shit 
will come in where they like, 

850
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,440
although I don't think, I think 
it's sort of there, but where 

851
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,800
they can detect exactly where 
everyone is from the fibre optic

852
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,200
and. 
There's the tags and stuff, 

853
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520
yeah, like tags, but at the same
time, you know what I mean? 

854
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,200
Look, imagine the carnage that 
ensues if it doesn't work, 

855
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000
probably, you know what I mean? 
Imagine there's fucking an IT 

856
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,640
with two jokers there with a Ute
all mates change screens while 

857
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,720
he's telling remote. 
And this Blogger just drives 

858
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:11,720
through a fucking Ute and an IT 
and three blokes. 

859
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Yeah, yeah, imagine, imagine the
chaos that comes out of that. 

860
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,120
And that's worst case scenario 
by any means. 

861
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,720
But that's, that's what all I 
focus on. 

862
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,280
You know what I mean? 
If you can, if you can stop 

863
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,360
that, if they can find a way to 
stop that kind of shit, fuck, 

864
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,880
I'm all. 
For it shows there, it shows 

865
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,320
there, you know, and we talk 
about, you know, management and 

866
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,880
all that, but like how much 
fucking trust is on so many 

867
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,560
different individuals 100% on a 
mine on a mine site to do their 

868
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,400
job. 
Like there's fucking so many 

869
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,600
layers of it as things of and. 
That's the other thing is like 

870
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,560
production being close to 
development is you, you create 

871
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,280
all those extra interactions. 
If it's just production, if it's

872
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,000
just production and 
development's miles away, we're 

873
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,040
just bogging to start that. 
That is our sole purpose. 

874
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,960
Whereas if fucking you got RTS 
and you got jumbos, you got 

875
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,160
people in and out everywhere. 
And as soon as you create 

876
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,720
multiple interactions, rest me 
for disaster. 

877
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,120
Well, the further on 
statistically. 

878
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Something is going to go wrong. 
The further on we go, when you 

879
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,720
got automated drilling and stuff
like that between the solos, you

880
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,480
start to have that one sneaky 
level that's in between two 

881
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,000
stopping fronts, level to level 
and the jumbo happens to be 

882
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,520
working here. 
Old mates running 2 fucking 

883
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,560
solos because you can drill them
both on auto. 

884
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,600
He's driving back and forwards. 
He doesn't know, he's just 

885
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,440
drilled into the bottom of the 
fucking jumbo and wipe something

886
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,680
out or whatever, you know what I
mean? 

887
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,840
Those interactions are the 
biggest part and I feel that it 

888
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,480
should always be that the jumbo 
should be two levels in front of

889
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,240
a stopping. 2 levels. 
Man, always, you know, and that 

890
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:45,080
just comes down to planning and 
efficiency in my, in my opinion,

891
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,080
look. 
Well, but it comes down to like 

892
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,680
there's cases where it just 
can't be done because they, 

893
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160
they, they turn the mill on. 
Yeah, that's and then they. 

894
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,000
Have to start. 
They have to start producing. 

895
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,440
It's all economical. 
It's all and. 

896
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,360
They're like they've told the 
market now we're going to be 

897
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,440
poor and gold this day and they 
they start producing while the 

898
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,440
fucking jumbo's in there and. 
Like. 

899
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,640
The minute they put. 
It and they, but they never 

900
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,440
catch up. 
The minute, the minute they put 

901
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,320
a fucking solo in the same level
as my Jumbo, like behind me or 

902
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,720
in front of me. 
Fucking see you later. 

903
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Yeah, I assume everyone. 
Knows. 

904
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,320
I mean, you don't know how to 
run your fucking mind and you're

905
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,440
doing a shit job of that. 
Like if I am flat out working a 

906
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,840
heading here and there's a solo 
drill and a state behind me, go 

907
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,040
fuck yourself. 
He can do both. 

908
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,400
Yeah, see you later. 
Because you clearly can't run 

909
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,960
your fucking mind. 
Yeah, when you look at the mines

910
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,840
that get set up the best like 
and one talking about the 5% 

911
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:39,080
develop that Woodlawn mine, like
they've been waiting for ages to

912
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,520
turn it on and fucking 
everything to get the mill going

913
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,480
and waiting for fucking copper 
prices to leave. 

914
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,840
But there's two years of 
development in already for 

915
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,440
production to start. 
How good that's going to be, how

916
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,120
good when you kick off. 
So when that kicks off, it's 

917
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,760
like they've got all the decline
and everything, so development 

918
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,080
will be completely decoupled 
from production. 

919
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,440
So they should fucking just. 
Kill by rights you should never 

920
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640
have to wait like you will just 
keep punching you. 

921
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,120
They clients turning your 
accesses, rads, sumps, whatever 

922
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,560
you fucking access cycle is. 
You know, cut them in, get to 

923
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,080
your start punching them down to
the next one and then you have 

924
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,760
another jumbo work those two 
while all mates still cutting 

925
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,720
your fucking accesses and 
carrying on and moving. 

926
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,680
The same thing like large hands 
of the exact same man. 

927
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Like obviously they had to 
change their whole everything 

928
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:36,160
when lithium went went to the 
tank, but we've we've we've 

929
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,640
punched fucking big or drives. 
They're they're ready like, you 

930
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,240
know what I mean? 
And so and we're punching the 

931
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,720
other or drives. 
They're they're doing exactly 

932
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,240
like adult bucket fills my heart
with happiness. 

933
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,480
But we're doing we're literally 
doing all the lateral 

934
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,760
development while we're smashing
our decline down. 

935
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,560
We will have that separation 
like that. 

936
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,280
They'd rather than like we need 
to make bank right now, you 

937
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,360
know, and they're lucky they're 
fed from the open pit that's 

938
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,760
still running. 
But we will be set up that we 

939
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,960
will be, you know, work In Sync 
and mine and pay still and do 

940
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,560
everything rather than be like. 
What about right the, the new, 

941
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,600
the new school versus the old 
school, Tucker, the, the people 

942
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,000
coming through now compared to 
the people you worked with in 

943
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,640
your early days. 
Is there any difference? 

944
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,960
Everyone's. 
On a Oh, there's definitely. 

945
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,960
Everyone's on their phone at the
tag board. 

946
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,320
Now there's. 
Definitely a difference. 

947
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:35,840
The difference is I think you 
you can be a different this is 

948
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,160
going to sound awful. 
You can be a different person 

949
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,560
now and be in mining like you 
can be a bit nerdy, you can be 

950
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:48,240
quiet, you can be whatever. 
Whereas when I started I was 

951
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,760
probably even worse for future 
like fucking you had to be like 

952
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,040
you had to be a piss wreck. 
You had to be like, and I 

953
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,240
struggled, man. 
Like I used to be fucking like, 

954
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,520
not who I am like. 
Fat with glasses. 

955
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,800
Yeah, I was fat with glasses, 
but like I was like fucking not,

956
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,720
not built for the weaponry that 
mining underground mining was 

957
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,320
like it was fucking lot. 
Yeah. 

958
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,160
I had to like readjust and big 
and fit in basically you, you 

959
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,680
just could not do that anymore. 
Like, do you know what I mean? 

960
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Like, you can be your own 
person, you can be quiet, you 

961
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,880
can do all that. 
You if you were like that, you 

962
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,560
just, you wouldn't happen. 
You either would not get a job 

963
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,800
to start with. 
Yeah. 

964
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,000
Or you would you just get shot 
or pushed out immediately? 

965
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,680
So what? 
What's different now? 

966
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,680
Like. 
Aptitude as a start, like 

967
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,080
everyone that I worked with back
in the day had a certain degree 

968
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,960
of being able to think for 
themselves. 

969
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,840
Bit of initiative, like being 
creative when the when shit went

970
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,280
bad, they could still react and 
sort of adjust. 

971
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Like nowadays I find that a lot 
of the guys, if you bring in, no

972
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,280
offence to all my young 
counterparts that I do fucking 

973
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,640
work with, but like when shit 
goes wrong, they struggle to 

974
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,640
make a decision. 
You're not exposed to as much 

975
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,360
these days. 
Look, I find like where I am, 

976
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,400
you start on the truck and you 
can't even, you bubble, you 

977
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,480
know, for so long. 
So when shit goes bad, you call 

978
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,600
the fitter and the truck gets 
fixed and you carry on. 

979
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Whereas look, I, I don't know 
about you, I started as the 

980
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,760
nipper. 
I had driven down to a jumbo, 

981
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,520
didn't even have a manual 
licence. 

982
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,560
And they just said do everything
he says, see you later. 

983
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:31,800
And off you went. 
Yeah, that was that was my 

984
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,040
induction. 
And yeah, well, the part of 

985
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,480
this. 
Step hanging on while he drives 

986
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,040
to his next job and you, you 
don't fucking know you are this.

987
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,680
Is the norm, yeah. 
And that's. 

988
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,720
Well, there's no. 
Other you. 

989
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,040
You're not driving to you, 
you're just like the bitch 

990
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,200
hanging off the side to do. 
All I got told what to do and 

991
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,800
that was it and if I didn't do 
as I was told I either got 

992
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,840
backhanded or fucking screamed 
at or hit with shit. 

993
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,640
All the old bits used to get 
thrown at me. 

994
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,360
Hey fuck, they hurt man. 
I forgot stubby plates once and 

995
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,640
just got the biggest backhand 
I've ever had in me life and I 

996
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,280
just thought, fuck, I won't do 
that twice, you know, You know 

997
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,200
what I mean? 
Look, you don't think nowadays 

998
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,760
you'd but it's you'd have turned
to water. 

999
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:08,360
You cry. 
You. 

1000
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,120
But honestly it's fucking abuse.
Like it's it's dry it up but 

1001
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,280
like. 
It was, but it was. 

1002
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,360
Lucky bald man never abused me 
but it was a fucking hobby and I

1003
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,520
fucked up lots. 
Like Dragon. 

1004
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Oh, crunch, crunch of a kid. 
Yeah. 

1005
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000
You know, and so like the man 
had his work cut out for him, 

1006
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,720
but you know, like you fuck up, 
you wear it. 

1007
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,920
Do you know what I mean? 
And so like, it was the same. 

1008
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,840
It was the same environment. 
Like you just cannot do that 

1009
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200
anymore. 
Like and but it's for a good 

1010
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,880
thing too, because like, fuck, I
did not like getting treated 

1011
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,000
like a stepchild like absolute 
shit, horrendous. 

1012
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,880
It was horrific and like I 
didn't know any better. 

1013
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,400
So it's just fucking how it 
wasn't that 20 years later I'm 

1014
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,080
like, fuck, that was shit house 
you. 

1015
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,000
Know so it's obviously different
now. 

1016
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,600
Like fucking anyone can. 
Doesn't matter if they're shy. 

1017
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Temperament bloody. 
Male. 

1018
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,600
Female bloody. 
If you, if you the 3A's, if 

1019
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:13,000
you're good attitude turn up and
you have semi good ability or 

1020
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,600
you want to learn and you want 
to keep growing yourself, you 

1021
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,560
can make it. 
You can make it in the mining 

1022
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,640
industry, whereas back then you 
had to be an absolute mongrel. 

1023
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,280
You had to drink peace. 
Like, yeah, it was your life. 

1024
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Like if you did not drink 27 
beers, you were going to die. 

1025
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Like, yeah. 
Like it was, it was just a whole

1026
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,840
different world. 
Like, and I'm. 

1027
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,800
I'm not. 
It's not a bad thing. 

1028
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Yeah. 
Like I fucking loved my years 

1029
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,400
coming up and doing all that. 
Like I loved very well soon. 

1030
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,320
I love. 
Yeah. 

1031
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Yeah, I was. 
I'm built for drinking Pierce. 

1032
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,280
Like there's one thing I'm good 
at. 

1033
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,600
I wasn't. 
I wouldn't have. 

1034
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,160
I wouldn't have. 
Known I was built for blowing 

1035
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,680
numbers. 
They got fucking big holes in 

1036
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,440
the toilet. 
But like, but but now it's good 

1037
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,360
because like how many JCS I've 
met that you'd never meet 

1038
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,040
because they are like 
temperamental or like they're 

1039
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,800
not fucking. 
You got to be like, you got to 

1040
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,880
be quite masculine. 
Like you had to be like, oh so 

1041
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,880
oh man, it was fucking a mongrel
job. 

1042
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,240
It's a, it's a, it's fucking 
underground. 

1043
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:13,080
It's shit. 
It's hot. 

1044
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,360
It wasn't. 
It wasn't uncommon to have a 

1045
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,160
punch on if you needed to. 
You know what? 

1046
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,320
I. 
Mean fighting over a fucking 

1047
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,800
hose because like, fucking old 
man's been giving you lip for a 

1048
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,400
week and he's punching over a 
water hose. 

1049
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,400
It's like, you know, shit 
changing, tuning him up, yeah, 

1050
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,000
fucking just having a crack. 
Look, it's just like how it was.

1051
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,520
It's. 
So it's not a bad thing that 

1052
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,600
it's changed. 
I've been so but I've seen so 

1053
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,360
many awesome operators that you 
would just would never even had 

1054
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,440
a look in like they're too quiet
or too shy or they don't drink 

1055
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,320
peas or whatever the case may be
because like and it's all 

1056
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,680
changed, but they are some of 
the best workers and best at 

1057
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,360
what they do like so I reckon 
it's changed for the better. 

1058
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,800
Yeah, like, yeah, I try and look
after all my workforce like 

1059
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,320
fuck, I bring nipper traits in, 
fucking fly out with like 

1060
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,480
lollies and shit. 
Give me a give me a hand to do a

1061
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,960
job fucking like ego, you know, 
like because I, I remember, and 

1062
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,000
I also did too, because you're a
product of your environment, you

1063
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,200
get traded like shit. 
This is what happens when you 

1064
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,600
get to that role. 
You trade everyone like shit, 

1065
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,520
you you replicate that. 
Then at a certain point you're 

1066
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,200
like, fuck, I hated that. 
Let's not fuck, you know what I 

1067
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,000
mean? 
Let's not do it anymore. 

1068
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,680
Let's not do that anymore. 
Let's try and fucking look after

1069
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,600
like, you know, and then 
whatever certain point in my 

1070
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,720
life cycle that that happened, 
now it's like, yeah, fucking 

1071
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:36,600
yeah. 
It sucks, man. 

1072
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,800
Like fucking thanks for helping 
me. 

1073
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,400
Like you actually like, you 
know, catch more. 

1074
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000
What does it catch? 
More flies with honey and 

1075
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,920
vinegar. 
So I was like, you know, the 

1076
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,280
more you like help people and 
tell them they're doing a good 

1077
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,120
job and fucking appreciate 
everything, the better 

1078
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,280
everything is, you know? 
Oh, who would know? 

1079
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,920
So I couldn't tell you the names
of the 20 blokes that punched me

1080
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,960
in the face, but the one bloke 
gave me a can of coke when I 

1081
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,280
showed up and had to turn. 
I'll tell you who he is like, 

1082
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,040
you know what I mean? 
It's the same concept. 

1083
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:05,600
Effectively, I learned the 
nipper treats and it's awful, 

1084
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,600
but like when we're in Africa 
because like they've got fuck 

1085
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,800
all now. 
The can of Coke, a can of coke 

1086
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160
for one of the locals that was 
off sign. 

1087
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,760
Yeah, he would fucking do 
everything. 

1088
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,000
Yeah. 
Like a small trinket treat and 

1089
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,880
it's so irrelevant to us and 
even for for me to give my 

1090
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,200
offsider of you know, it's 
something it's it's a weird 

1091
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,360
thing, like a small trick or 
treat. 

1092
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,000
Thanks for helping me. 
Fucking here's this like, you 

1093
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,560
know, we're all sweating our 
asses off fucking I'm going to 

1094
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,120
crack an icy cold can of coke 
out of a water bottle. 

1095
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,160
Here you go. 
They're having one too. 

1096
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:50,000
That small weird thing is, it's 
proved priceless once I 

1097
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,480
discovered that. 
Automated the work in Freeport 

1098
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,200
years and years and years ago 
and he reckons I can't remember 

1099
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,120
whether it was Vegemite or 
peanut butter sandwiches. 

1100
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,880
And all he used to do is make 
two of them, come and give them 

1101
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,360
to the storm and every day and 
just be like here you go, couple

1102
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,440
of sandwiches for you. 
Because the locals didn't get to

1103
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,000
take the food out of the mess. 
So he'd come back with a couple 

1104
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,440
of sandwiches every day, just 
give him the old mate, and he 

1105
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,200
would open up a fucking 
container with millions of 

1106
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,760
dollars worth of consumables in 
it. 

1107
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,640
Like, yeah, drill bits, whatever
you want. 

1108
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,640
Everyone else has run a race 
sharp, so that's just walking 

1109
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,960
out with boxes. 
Brand new, whatever. 

1110
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,560
All for a couple of fucking 
sandwiches. 

1111
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,520
You know fuck all. 
He. 

1112
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,880
Didn't even pay for the 
sandwiches. 

1113
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,040
No, that's right. 
That's right. 

1114
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,680
But it's but. 
It's a simple gesture. 

1115
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,160
Give it to you. 
Yeah, so. 

1116
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,600
It's it's fucking man. 
I'll fly out to work. 

1117
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,880
I'll check a 30 pack of coke in.
Yeah. 

1118
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,040
I'll I'll put like fucking Audi 
energy drinks that are $0.99 and

1119
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,920
then I'll want one at fucking 
midnight and the offside is 

1120
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,440
busting his whole you go bras. 
What you know $0.99? 

1121
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,720
Sake of a dollar? 
Yeah, he's made your, but then 

1122
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,600
he's less than that by standard.
He's like, fuck yeah, like, you 

1123
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,040
know, and it's like, but it's 
something I learned 10 plus 

1124
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,680
years ago. 
I just call them nipper treats. 

1125
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,840
Like bring bags of fucking 
chewy, awesome lollies. 

1126
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Like fucking like, you know, the
I get the fitters, the sparkies,

1127
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,240
everyone comes at nipper treats.
They'll come and ride the 

1128
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,760
lollies. 
Who gives a fuck? 

1129
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,720
Like, but it's something so 
fucking simple, like, you know? 

1130
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,880
That you get you everything. 
Out like it's like an 

1131
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,960
appreciation for the job you're 
doing, even though you're 

1132
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,040
getting paid to the job and it 
is your job. 

1133
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,080
It's that little bit of fucking 
gratification and then and 

1134
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,120
something's like thanks man. 
You know, you just don't realise

1135
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,560
how much that affects people 
when that goes all the way out 

1136
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,720
to big management. 
When you go into a meeting and 

1137
00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:35,040
they're like you fucking useless
fucks, like fucking you just 

1138
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,840
couldn't organise the shit out 
of your own ass. 

1139
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,960
Then you want to like, yeah, 
we're going to go underground 

1140
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,120
and do heaps and fucking stuff 
like you can do. 

1141
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,160
Fuck all, you're going to fuck 
the dog like. 

1142
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,760
You whereas like coming like, 
yeah, look, we've had a bad 

1143
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,360
month, but like he's done really
well. 

1144
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,440
I've been like, you know, a bit 
of a fucking pep talk. 

1145
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,040
Build his up. 
You want to keep carrying the 

1146
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,040
build up, don't you Like? 
It's no one's perfect. 

1147
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,960
You can wear that. 
Like if they come in and say, 

1148
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,760
look, we had a challenging 
month, you know, blah, blah, 

1149
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,800
blah. 
It was a bit shit. 

1150
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,720
This happened, this happened. 
But you know, you guys did a 

1151
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:02,840
good job. 
You did it safely. 

1152
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,120
Then that's all we expect from 
you. 

1153
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Yeah, on the borderline, you 
know, we expect you to do your 

1154
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,760
fucking job we want to do. 
More, but you want to do more 

1155
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,280
than. 
You know, you guys tried and 

1156
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,240
it's not like you're not trying.
So that's that's all you want. 

1157
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,400
You know what I mean? 
You can. 

1158
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,560
Come in the next month. 
I can come in every fucking 

1159
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,960
month after that. 
I'd be pretty upset if I kept 

1160
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,800
coming in and everyone was not 
fucking winning. 

1161
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,200
But yeah, yeah. 
But you know what I mean. 

1162
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,360
If they can just say to you 
along. 

1163
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,040
But it's simple. 
Things it's it's so simple and 

1164
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,640
you like cost him nothing. 
I remember, I remember talking 

1165
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,040
and news have both worked with 
him. 

1166
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,120
Actually, that's probably how 
he's both got on the jumbo. 

1167
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,360
Barry Upton, I remember, yeah, 
remember talking to him and he's

1168
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,720
one of the legends of the 
contracting industry. 

1169
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,760
He told, he told me, he said 
hear more than two things. 

1170
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,000
He says when he'd go up for a 
site visit somewhere, he'd go do

1171
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,240
an underground troop, he'd go 
address the mate and he says 

1172
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:52,240
yeah, and tell him two things 
and he'd just get up. 

1173
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:55,400
He's like, look, I walked into, 
I walked into this drive. 

1174
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,120
Services were absolutely 
perfect. 

1175
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:02,880
I walked into this other drive, 
services were a bit shit in 

1176
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,840
there. 
I just want the standards to be 

1177
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,480
like that. 
Drive just told him two things, 

1178
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,840
simple and fucking similar, and 
they retain it. 

1179
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,880
You know the ones when they do 
the big management speeches and 

1180
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,080
it's 10 minutes and just. 
But he had like she, she, she. 

1181
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,520
She had good standards, like it 
was you give positive 

1182
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,320
reinforcement followed by like 
you drop the ball a bit there. 

1183
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,640
So it's like, yeah, lift just 
headed to there without berating

1184
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,240
you like yeah, but come on. 
He was kissed on the Dick by an 

1185
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,880
Angel that. 
Man, like fuck me Unicorn, Fuck 

1186
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,840
me Unicorn. 
That's when I was. 

1187
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,360
Working at Rock, he was there 
and no shit. 

1188
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,960
He would come to sight man and 
he would walk up to you. 

1189
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,040
You don't might have only met 
the once Yeah, but he would come

1190
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,760
up to you to be G'day Jeff How 
are the dogs memory. 

1191
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,880
Yeah, you know they he could 
tell you your name and he would 

1192
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,320
remember 1 little thing about 
you. 

1193
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,200
Yeah, fuck if I know how like I 
can't remember what I had 

1194
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,640
fucking breakfast man. 
Yeah, I would, but he could flat

1195
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,200
out come in. 
G'day Jeff how are the dogs? 

1196
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,160
And he would he would ask me 
that because he knew he had 

1197
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,640
dogs. 
Didn't fucking matter. 

1198
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,320
Whether he masked me? 
That once or every time fucking.

1199
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,240
I worked for Brock for a lot of 
years. 

1200
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,960
He's got on the jumbo with every
person and people but and he. 

1201
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,920
Was all cause of him but a 
little bit like yeah, he he 

1202
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,440
yeah, but like he'd. 
Come to sight. 

1203
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,120
Man, and he'd be. 
Like down the bar having a beer 

1204
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,640
with you. 
He's like, hey, Tucker, how you 

1205
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,680
doing? 
How's your fucking whatever and 

1206
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,480
name your girlfriend of the 
time. 

1207
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,640
Like whatever, whatever last 
whatever. 

1208
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,000
The last conversation you had 
with this man might be 12 

1209
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,080
months, and he would do that 
with fuck everybody, 1000 

1210
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,400
people. 
Like it was baffling, even 

1211
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,160
though I was like, that's 
fucking surreal. 

1212
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,280
Like, that is amazing talent. 
Yeah, but Daddy left that he 

1213
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,840
went. 
You wouldn't. 

1214
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:39,560
Run. 
It's worse. 

1215
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,800
It's way to go in the industry. 
I don't think. 

1216
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,360
Odda. 
Odda. 

1217
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,520
Exactly. 
Yeah, a person. 

1218
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,200
Of his role and calibre, really.
Calibre, yeah. 

1219
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,720
To come and talk to you as. 
Like fucking and I was only 

1220
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,160
charged up or whatever or fuck, 
like, you know, 'cause I worked 

1221
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,040
my way up, I went to rock 
charge, I worked my way to the 

1222
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,680
jumbo from there. 
And it's like to have like the 

1223
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,320
big boss rolling and like talk 
to you. 

1224
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600
Like, you're like, man, you 
would talk. 

1225
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,720
You're worth a shit, you know, 
like, yeah, like. 

1226
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,840
That shit is priceless. 
Like it was a phenomenal thing, 

1227
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,880
man, and like that would be as 
worth waiting gold in his 

1228
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,600
managerial status. 
What other any other shout out 

1229
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,920
to? 
Who else have you worked with 

1230
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,560
like that that stand out in your
careers, that like people that 

1231
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,320
you know, that all management 
teams, that you know, you just 

1232
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,760
must. 
It must be in the doctor. 

1233
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,840
It must be in. 
The name Luke Upton, Yeah, like 

1234
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,800
credit to him. 
Burn, cut offshore now. 

1235
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,440
Is he offshore now? 
Yeah, OK. 

1236
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,240
Yeah, because I know when. 
To Barbie cut for a while and 

1237
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,800
stuff like that. 
He was always the one. 

1238
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,360
I used to wind up Beasley 
because I would always tell 

1239
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,720
Beasley, you're the second best 
project manager I've ever heard.

1240
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,320
And like that's. 
You know that's. 

1241
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,200
Kind of a compliment. 
Yeah. 

1242
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:52,040
Yeah. 
But at the same time, like Luke 

1243
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,880
Afton, I remember I I first 
started and Luke was a shift 

1244
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,120
boss. 
And I reckon, I don't know, 

1245
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,560
you'd probably call him and ask 
him the exact age, but I'd say 

1246
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,880
27, maybe 28. 
And all of that looks 27 too. 

1247
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:05,840
Yeah, I know. 
Fuck him. 

1248
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,080
I've known him the whole time. 
He knew me when I had hair. 

1249
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,680
Now I'm fucked. 
So he's. 

1250
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,720
He's done pretty well. 
Use himself what you did. 

1251
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Probably not but but. 

1252
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,000
Even back then I. 
Was like fuck me. 

1253
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,360
That's eleven years older than 
me. 

1254
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,880
He's already in front of 
everybody. 

1255
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,880
Like that's fucking impressive. 
Then the next year he was the 

1256
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,400
foreman and then I was just some
measly old fucking nipper or a 

1257
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,600
charge up bloke or something 
stupid. 

1258
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,560
But over the years I worked with
him a lot. 

1259
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,520
Fuck me, like a lot. 
Like my time at ACM and stuff 

1260
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,600
like that. 
And odd, even now to this day, I

1261
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,040
don't reckon I've found a better
project manager than him. 

1262
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,360
The way the way he ran the joint
was like he was still the 

1263
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,320
foreman with a point to prove 
and you know, just just honest. 

1264
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,640
And if you didn't lie to him, he
was fucking excellent, you know,

1265
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,960
And they all gave up lying years
ago after all this because that 

1266
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,720
was too smart. 
He'd catch you out a million 

1267
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,880
fucking times over if you start 
fucking lying to him. 

1268
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,440
And then he'd come down on you 
like a sack of shit. 

1269
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,120
I was a sack of shit back then. 
So I'll probably do it with your

1270
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,000
eyebrow. 
I ring in. 

1271
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,760
I deserve probably 99% of the 
Rev UPS. 

1272
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,520
All I got from him. 
Close to 100 probably, but it 

1273
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,160
makes you into probably 100. 
But. 

1274
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,360
But for me? 
He was one of the more 

1275
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,800
influential people over the long
run that I'll sort of thought 

1276
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,440
more about as I got older and 
matured, became a better minor, 

1277
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,720
the more I focused on kind of 
like what he did and my 

1278
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,960
interactions with him as I was 
effectively growing up. 

1279
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,880
Because I was fucking 18 when I 
started, you know what I mean? 

1280
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,560
I was fucking boy in a man's 
world kind of making me way 

1281
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,040
through and as I got older and 
started to mature a bit, I was 

1282
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,640
only probably last year that 
happened, but. 

1283
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,600
But look, you know what I mean. 
But yeah, that's it's funny 

1284
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,040
when. 
You talk about guys like that. 

1285
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,680
Like and the industry sees W 
Guild doing their thing now, but

1286
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,680
a lot of these people that get 
talked about it from ACM who 

1287
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,960
that's right by West Guild and 
that's why W guilder owner 

1288
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,240
operated those days they built 
they. 

1289
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Helped build build those 
companies and build them. 

1290
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,880
I see, I see them had a bad rap 
but. 

1291
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,400
I don't really care what anyone 
says in the long run, better 

1292
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,400
standards than. 
They created some of the 

1293
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,880
fucking. 
Best miners I know how. 

1294
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,040
What was the? 
What was what was there? 

1295
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,320
That created that. 
What's the attitude towards? 

1296
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,240
Success. 
I think that was small enough as

1297
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,600
well where they could. 
Dr standards for and it was 

1298
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,240
still service and it was still 
very. 

1299
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,880
Quality to maintain the quality,
yeah, you know. 

1300
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,560
What I mean when? 
When you needed, Yeah. 

1301
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,560
Fuck all to do it with 'cause 
they didn't have money. 

1302
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,240
After time but but but that made
you. 

1303
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,400
Improvise that made you think 
that made you adapt and right 

1304
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,040
look at what was in front of you
and actually be able to come up 

1305
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,080
with an no evolution of the 
properly disposable that was 

1306
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,760
that was proper. 
Constage of mine. 

1307
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,400
Yeah, but that was. 
Proper contracting it was it. 

1308
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,680
Was fucking. 
It was really. 

1309
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,640
Mince up clips go to the dump. 
Pull them out of all the old 

1310
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,600
vent bag that's at the dump. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1311
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,720
Proper contracting. 
And I don't give a fuck. 

1312
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Like some of the best miners. 
I've run into over the years and

1313
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,560
like, I'm talking about guys 
that influenced me look up to 

1314
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,640
and you look at him now, burn 
card offshore. 

1315
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,320
He's nobody's fool. 
Yeah, you know what I mean? 

1316
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,040
He's he's written his own path 
with him mining over the years, 

1317
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,960
EXACM or not. 
Yeah, but I I don't have a bad 

1318
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,280
word to say about them all. 
You know, Mickey Rat, Brian 

1319
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,560
Roden, all those guys. 
It's good to struggle, though. 

1320
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,880
It's. 
Good to struggle though. 

1321
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,480
It's great to struggle. 
I love. 

1322
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,960
Those. 
It's everything all the time, 

1323
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,160
yeah. 
Like it's simple, you just waste

1324
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,760
it like unbolt rebuilt a new one
and throw it away. 

1325
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,920
Whereas if you don't fucking 
have anything, it's like 

1326
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,840
disposable culture. 
You're not to break anything. 

1327
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,320
I. 
Remember when I was in Africa? 

1328
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,000
Fucking. 
Kevin Flynn, He was a project 

1329
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,760
manager there. 
Fuck knows what happened to the 

1330
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,000
ship. 
Pirates raided it. 

1331
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,960
Who knows? 
Like the ship that brought all 

1332
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,880
that shit in just didn't fucking
turn up, You know, middle of 

1333
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,280
West Africa, you get fuck all. 
Good luck. 

1334
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,040
And he'd he'd walk, he'd park at
the top and walk the entire 

1335
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,520
mine. 
And we had no mince up clips. 

1336
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,040
He fucking picked up. 
He just carried this bucket down

1337
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,000
and fucked, man. 
He picked up fucking thousands 

1338
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,440
of these fucking midst upwards. 
Yeah man, but like but we had 

1339
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,840
none. 
Probably saved a few LV tyres 

1340
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,360
but. 
Then we could. 

1341
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,880
Then we could hang vent. 
Then we could. 

1342
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,360
Fucking carry on like you know 
what I mean? 

1343
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,440
Like something so fucking simple
and like you don't think about 

1344
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,800
it until you're struggling, 
until you've got like, it's not 

1345
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,520
even about not having money. 
Like sometimes it costs, 

1346
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,920
sometimes you can't get the 
product you need. 

1347
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,520
Like you know what I mean? 
Like, and so you don't realise 

1348
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,240
when you're spoon fed everything
because everything's on tap. 

1349
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Yeah, you don't understand where
you're like fucking off. 

1350
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,560
There's no water. 
There's no water hose, Right. 

1351
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,760
How did you get to that 
solution? 

1352
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,480
Yeah. 
Bucket and a walk, man. 

1353
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,280
Yeah, you know, you know what I 
mean? 

1354
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,200
For the sake of simplicity, 
that's not even taking the piss.

1355
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,080
And it literally did we we flat.
Out just. 

1356
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,040
That's the culture these days. 
It's the fucking grab fucking 

1357
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,440
hanging. 
Event Bay you grab 20 you know 

1358
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,840
you can only handle 6. 
The rest the fucking like man, I

1359
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,960
don't even get mince up clips 
even to this day out of the 

1360
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,240
fucking store. 
I'll just wait till they've done

1361
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,920
a vent bag and I'm unplugging 
the jumbo or whatever and I walk

1362
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,880
along and you fucking guarantee 
it there's a fucking litter of 

1363
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,000
them. 
I don't see shit on the gumbo 

1364
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,880
because I don't have time. 
To look at the floor when I'm 

1365
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,400
fucking walking around. 
I'll get a guy, I'll look shit. 

1366
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,040
You're doing it wrong, mate. 
You're doing it wrong. 

1367
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,960
What? 
About what about you, Tucker? 

1368
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,800
Best management you've dealt 
with in your career? 

1369
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,280
You would have been through a 
few who's the stand outs and 

1370
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,440
lots of fired me. 
They're good, but like, sorry, 

1371
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:48,880
some of my favourites, Yeah, I 
look, I like Aaron Rimmer. 

1372
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:59,480
Fuck, he's a pest and hard work,
but he's I like, I like it 

1373
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,560
straight down the lawn. 
You know exactly where you stand

1374
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,600
if you're being a Dick and 
you're not doing your job or 

1375
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,960
you're whatever. 
Like that's how it is fucking, 

1376
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,120
you know, like it is what it is.
We're not getting our targets or

1377
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,600
fucking whatever's happening. 
There's no like Mollycod. 

1378
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,640
Well, there's no I'm going to 
piss in the wind and promise the

1379
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:19,800
world. 
It's just fucking. 

1380
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,120
That's how it is, you know, and 
I've worked with Balti for a lot

1381
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,080
of years too, but fucking he 
just hassles me relentlessly. 

1382
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,320
So I can't really chirp him up 
because but I'm thinking I'll 

1383
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,440
think he's about chirp. 
Him up. 

1384
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,840
I think it's his. 
Way it. 

1385
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,120
Has to be more man. 
But I think it's way. 

1386
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,000
It's his way of showing. 
Affection to you. 

1387
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,480
I've said his name already. 
It's going to be 6. 

1388
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,400
Months of fucking misery. 
I already know. 

1389
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,840
I can already know. 
I can't believe you said your 

1390
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,440
current boss. 
I already know well fucking like

1391
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,400
you. 
Love the pain you love. 

1392
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,720
The pain all. 
The rest have fired me, so fuck 

1393
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,400
them guys. 
At least. 

1394
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,760
Your boots aren't size 13. 
You'll remember the key 

1395
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,480
difference when you're talking 
about management. 

1396
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,960
It's. 
Like the ones that, and it's 

1397
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,080
those two because they were the 
same to me. 

1398
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,640
The ones that give the fuck 
about you as a person, not just 

1399
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,120
as someone. 
Their pain. 

1400
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,840
They're like, they're like, how 
can we develop you from a boy 

1401
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,520
into a man? 
Yeah, as a manager. 

1402
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,040
Like giving you a fuck about 
you. 

1403
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,640
And you talk about Barry Upton 
like you're about talking about 

1404
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,320
your personal life. 
Like they genuinely give a fuck 

1405
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,040
about you. 
Even if he doesn't, he just has 

1406
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,160
a. 
Memory, you know, look, even if 

1407
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,920
he doesn't and he just 
remembers, seems lucky he was a 

1408
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,480
fuck and that's the main thing. 
Lucky yes, Boomer and Baldy. 

1409
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:38,240
It's like work side, but 50% 
personal side because like went 

1410
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,320
through a bit of shit. 
Yeah, but they they know. 

1411
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,880
They know if your head's. 
Good, your work's good. 

1412
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,480
They were my. 
Bosses during, you know, some 

1413
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,120
fucking rough times, you know 
what I mean? 

1414
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,280
But they were the fucking. 
That's when, you know, you work 

1415
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:59,000
with the absolute GCS because me
drilling holes was not the 

1416
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,280
priority. 
Yeah. 

1417
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,920
Do you know what I mean? 
And like, be like, you're 

1418
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,960
fucking like, you, you, you're 
just a number. 

1419
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,800
And you're just there to fucking
drill holes and make money. 

1420
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,000
And I know that. 
But then when you're fucking, 

1421
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,520
when the chips are down and 
shit's happening, like to be 

1422
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,600
looked after. 
And I was fucking well looked 

1423
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:16,840
after. 
Like, that's why. 

1424
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,640
That's why my respect is there 
for sure. 

1425
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,800
Because it was fucking like, you
don't understand. 

1426
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,880
Yeah, shit, fucking yeah, 
exactly. 

1427
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,800
And then when they. 
Refer to you more as a person 

1428
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,880
than just, you know, some dude 
that works for him. 

1429
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,640
Yeah. 
You know, it goes a long way in 

1430
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:34,920
the fucking envy. 
Rossel Smith. 

1431
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:35,920
I mean, that's a jet. 
No. 

1432
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,520
Yeah. 
Now that'll probably do it. 

1433
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:38,200
Aye. 
We'll go. 

1434
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,080
For three hours. 
Fuck Jesus fuck is fuck right 

1435
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:41,840
now. 
Cheers boys. 

1436
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,120
Good to have you his back. 
Aye, good on your cock. 

1437
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,280
I'm in here. 
Thanks guys. 

1438
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,160
Cheers. 
Right now. 

1439
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,200
Thank you, Tucker. 
And Dharma sensational guys, to 

1440
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,640
my knowledge, they're. 
Still employed. 

1441
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,920
So might. 
Have been a little. 

1442
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,560
Event between episodes. 
One and two, somebody wanting to

1443
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,160
double check that things were 
things are squeaky. 

1444
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,200
Never mind. 
Thanks to all the bloody 

1445
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,320
partners that have made Tucker 
and Dharma coming on possible. 

1446
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,360
Who we who we have in the show. 
We had K drill and we had get 

1447
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,400
wet Who's bloody back goodness. 
So also got mineral mining 

1448
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,760
services, grounded Sambic ground
support. 

1449
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaking of all the. 
Bent bolts Tucker talks about 

1450
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:30,240
all supplied by Sambic ground 
support, CRE insurance and Daesh

1451
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,240
SAT saltbush contracting. 
That's it go Tucker and Dharma 

1452
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,800
Hodoru money. 
It was a good weekend. 

1453
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,840
Information contained in this. 
Episode of Money of. 

1454
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,400
Mine is of general nature only 
and does not take into account 

1455
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,640
the objectives, financial 
situation or needs of any 

1456
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,120
particular person. 
Before making any investment 

1457
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,160
decision, you should consult 
with your financial advisor and 

1458
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,280
consider how appropriate the 
advice is to your objectives, 

1459
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,520
financial situation and needs.