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Welcome to Judaism demystified a
podcast for the perplexed. 

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We are joined by Pastor 
dumisani, Washington. 

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Pastor Washington is the founder
and CEO of The Institute for 

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Black solidarity with Israel. 
I had BSI. 

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He's also the former diversity 
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over 10 million member 
Christians, United, for Israel, 

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cufi. 
Having served at cufi, nearly 

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seven years. 
Dumisani is a pastor 

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professional musician, graduate 
of the San Francisco, 

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Conservatory of Music and 
author, whose latest book is the

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second edition of Zionism and 
the black church. 

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Why standing with Israel will be
a defining issue for Christians 

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of color in the 21st century 
while on staff with cufi 

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dumisani, organized 
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for Israel from across the 
country and helped launch Cufi 

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Africa to engage with the many 
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cufi members from South Africa, 
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Ethiopia, Kenya Morocco, and 
more to me. 

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Son is also the creator of cof 
is Mizrahi project. 

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A short film project that tells 
the story of over 850,000 Jewish

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refugees from North Africa and 
the Middle East as part of his 

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effort to initiate the Mizrahi 
Project to me signing was 

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featured in the 2016 Prager. 
You video. 

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Why are there still Palestinian 
refugees? 

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Which has received millions of 
views? 

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Worldwide. 
Dumisani is also the founder and

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director of the Hebrew project 
artist. 

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Thp a music group that performs 
gospel music with Hebrew and 

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English lyrics in an artistic 
stand with Israel and the Jewish

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people T hp's. 
Latest release is entitled o 

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Jerusalem, do me Sonny and his 
wife Valerie have been married 

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33 years and have six children 
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They live near Charlotte, North 
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Without further Ado, Pastor 
dumisani, Washington. 

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Thank you for joining the 
Judaism demystified podcast as 

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the pastor. 
I want to know your thoughts on 

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Zionism and why that's important
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I don't often find that that's 
something that our even, our 

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friends are non-jewish friends. 
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supporting the Jewish cause and 
standing up against 

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anti-Semitism, but you are also 
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So I'm just curious to know. 
I see the book behind, you 

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zionists. 
The black church, you tell us a 

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little bit about your background
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you. 
Well, both in been as a 

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Christian who's raised up in a 
very pretty about household from

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the segregated South. 
I was born in Little Rock 

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Arkansas. 
I grew up in California, but my 

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family's from Little Rock 
Arkansas. 

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And so, we were very faithful 
members of King Solomon. 

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Baptist Church in a what I call 
off at a very traditional black 

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Christian. 
Vain. 

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If you will, there's a lot of 
spiritual Zionism terms of the 

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music, scriptures the 
identification with Israel. 

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Moses, the whole journey From 
Slavery to Freedom, all of those

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things, very, very strong 
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And so, for Zionism be 
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Obviously, it's a loaded word, 
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some people has a lot of 
negative connotations 

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everything, but in its basic 
form of it being The Liberation 

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movement and struggle of the 
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The re-establishment of the 
Jewish homeland, and yes, that 

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I'm a Christian zionists in that
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Israel belongs to the Jewish 
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Homeland racist. 
It is the Jewish homeland that 

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broader part of Zionism, which 
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American history and a certain 
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there has been this allusion to 
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restoration, a reclaiming, those
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It's Garvey to even people may 
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even referred to Zionism and 
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were talking about how Zionism 
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around the world around this 
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Homeland and how something like 
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Could be very beneficial for 
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So I'm both levels both in terms
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but also in terms of what it has
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centuries very much. 
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I'm a proponent of Zionism. 
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So in terms of the black 
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people don't even know today or 
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So there's some confusion around
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That defines us as Jews. 
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What is our identity? 
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is it that you're doing in your 
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Let's say to raise awareness, 
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misinformation that's out there.
Like we saw recently with Kanye 

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West, And with Kyrie Irving, 
there's kind of this attack on 

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Jewish identity and to the 
extreme even more of an extreme.

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You see with a fair can and the 
Nation of Islam, always pointing

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to the fact that this, there's a
the khazar theory that the Jews 

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are not legitimate Jews and he 
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the true Jews. 
He said some wacky stuff and I 

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would like to hear, you know 
what, your response to all that 

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is. 
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And things. 
So let's try to unpack it as 

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much as we can. 
Let's start with the identity of

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the Jewish people. 
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Institute for Black, solidarity 
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And in my book, I explain that 
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concepts when it comes to the 
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from the tribe of Israel, 
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the 

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descendants of the Patriarchs, 
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And then, of course, those who, 
who can convert, right? 

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Who could actually do to a 
conditional conversion, may they

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may not have been Jewish. 
Or Hebrew by birth but they can 

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actually become Jewish. 
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Matter of fact, the second 
chapter of my book, I talk about

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the prophetic Return of the 
Jewish people to the land of 

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Israel from literally all over 
the world and we can give some 

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different examples of that, 
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So that's the first thing that 
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We talk about who's Jewish both 
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but who may have converted to 
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Judaism, the type of thing, and 
we talked about the diaspora 

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from all over the world. 
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Asia and Africa, and Europe, and
North, and South America, all of

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those things, how that came to 
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Both as particularly after the 
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destruction of the temple. 
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rebellion and those types of 
things, what happened to the 

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Jewish people as a people 
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a Remnant in the land, scattered
to what Isaiah called the four 

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corners of the Earth, right? 
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Jewish people returning to the 
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From all over the world. 
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both biblically, we talk about 
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fascinating. 
The topic about where the Jewish

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people were dispersed, how they 
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talked earlier about 
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Do those who were forced into 
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Islam, right? 
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secret because of all that was 
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for example, the the, the the 
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Inquisition, how the king and 
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I was paying me than going to. 
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them out as well. 
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Inquisition that is going got 
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but its territories, the Jews 
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now being persecuted because now
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They were going to rid juice up 
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includes now Jews who fled and 
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world. 
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conversations about this Amazing
fascinating thing where you have

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Jewish people scattered but 
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holding on to their identity and
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that's how we teach that and and
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those lines. 
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the Kyrie Irving, which touches 
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Israelites, and obviously, for 
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sure, everybody knows it by now.
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actually came out a few years 
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Personal post a link about our 
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it officially and super black 
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Then go on our website IBS i.org
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stack. 
We have like a articles that are

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written about some of these 
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carrier everything separate from
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The ability with the Kyrie 
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First Kyrie Irving shares, a 
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extremely problematic very 
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We've called it out as such 
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go to tation of a lot of 
anti-Semitic tropes, everything 

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that somehow the Sephardic 
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Are all cousins are all being 
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use that term later on all 
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All the Jews in the land are 
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I mean I'm using term fake 
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What they're actually alluding 
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Jewish. 
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claiming Judaism so on and so 
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The Jews are responsible for 
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and on these things that have 
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unfortunately, for centuries at 
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of packed into this actual film?
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obviously very problematic is of
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And one of the things that it 
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conversation about who the Black
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A Renewed conversation. 
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unpack this Black Hebrew 
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alliances different terms they 
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There's not one there's many 
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There's a group in dimona that 
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1960s, they called a community 
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They were there led by camera 
the first gentleman's name but 

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ben-ami became their leader is 
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have been now they've been there
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some they certainly IDF they're 
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residency and everything in 
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They're working different parts 
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then you have the other group 
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Chicago, which I call, I often 
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them as the original there, 
there's a Hebrews or like group 

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that goes back to the mid to 
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of gentlemen but there's 
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that as well, but they began to 
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they were taking the slave 
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to be Israelites but just claim 
Judaism as the Legend, that type

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of thing where you had different
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some of them were hostile later 
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They considered white Jews are 
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a part of the broader Jewish 
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And there was a lot of Splinter 
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of the complexity of that 
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Some of them were not go on to 
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later on. 
They are attacking people, 

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there's a gentleman who was a 
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Who's the actual on? 
Who killed Dr. King's mother 

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went into a how to a church and 
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There's a recent incidents in 
terms of violence those who went

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to that neighborhood in Jersey 
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either part of that ideology if 
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people in that Jewish 
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And so you've had some of those 
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been associated with some who, 
but claimed to be a part of this

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group, right or who have claimed
some of the propaganda from this

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group and what The white Jews 
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Jews and that, that whole 
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So unfortunately for everyone, 
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same time. 
The perfect storm is now. 

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Kanye West, who in his 
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about a clue include everything 
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I'm not anti semitic because I'm

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Jutsu and people were confused 
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part of a black Hebrew. 
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some of the same rhetoric that's
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to be part of, you know, some of
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Israelites, we spend a great 
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Been sorting a lot of that out. 
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are, who these individuals, for 
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the Hebrews, like, community 
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whatever ever Capers, Pune. 
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Orthodox. 
Judaism Leads their actual 

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He works throughout the Jewish 
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York, you're probably aware of 
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That a couple of these, one of 
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considering having me Bruiser, 
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in their congregation and, and 
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obviously. 
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who observes and I share this, I
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friendships throughout the 
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The world for which we married 
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beta Israel and Ethiopia to the 
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Ashkenazi Mizrahi and we feel 
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see this this tussle that's 
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to things like radical Black 
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spewing all kinds of hatred for 
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hatred for eyes cannot see Jews,
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As you said, we'd said before, I
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somebody looks a certain way but
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stereotypical way. 
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been time, particularly with 
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Parsing. 
Some of this out, right? 

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Explaining the, some of the same
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Now, we point to the book, we 
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Jewish diaspora, the Jewish 
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Judaism, Orthodox, Judaism, all 
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We talked about the different 
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who we work closely with them. 
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Africa, the all these types of 
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because for most people, 
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non-jews. 
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These did the whole thing is a 
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being introduced to them in the 
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Like Kyrie Irving, Discussion. 
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information and work with that, 
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brothers and sisters throughout 
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get to sort those things out to 
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what's real, what's fake, right?
With what's being said that our 

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What's being said that you can 

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One that I told people they 
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I said some of the sliver of 
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it actually brought up the 
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Of a Jewish diaspora to people 
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The bad news was that it was 
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anti-semitic way, right? 
The, so what you had was people 

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who had never heard of like, for
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Jews of Yemen, right? 
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these people watching this for 
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Wow, I didn't know about this 
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knowing that the source that 
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from has its other agenda, 
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They even in the film they 
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attributed to Hitler, right? 
Why? 

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Why you would do a Jew, a film 
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in any sort of way, kind of let 
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There's an agenda that's 
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So the internet so answer your 
to your broader question, we try

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to sort that out for everyone 
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and you feel like there's 
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this information because I feel 
like the problem is on the 

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ground, you know, like people 
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today from like Tick Tock and I 
see He's like, you know, 

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probably these teenage kids who 
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know, the toilet seat in their 
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You know, they're putting 
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ashkenazi's and, and DNA and all
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Like, you guys had, don't even 
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but that's who's being taught, 
you know, those are the teachers

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of the new generation in a way 
and there's there's that they're

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fighting on that front and also 
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and Kyrie Irving, like there's 
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world. 
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people and it just it almost 
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almost feels like can anything 
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Because here's the thing you can
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diaspora as a way of showing 
people, you know, because I've 

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been through but at the same 
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you might look at that as like 
evidence for all of your hatred 

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towards you. 
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They everywhere they go. 
They're hated so then we must 

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be. 
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So how do you Something like 
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Well, it's interesting. 
Then you put in that way. 

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When you add the phenomenon of 
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it's a thighs, everything, 
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So anti-semitic tropes are old 
Jew hatred is the oldest ethnic 

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hatred in the world goes back. 
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imagine the Pharaoh had 
Tick-Tock, right? 

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This matter is, if Hitler had 
Twitter. 

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Right? 
What, what could they have done,

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right? 
If Gobo gurbles had the ability 

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to click, and then, right? 
Actly. 

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So our minds, we can't even 
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That's what we have now. 
Are we have that level of Jew 

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hatred on social media, right? 
So this is part of it so you can

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go fast at light speed while you
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kinds of false information about
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You get you, they get a what we 
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or just something out of 
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Here's an IDF Soldier. 
Here's a 10 year old Palestinian

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kid. 
Why are they arresting him? 

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What's going on? 
Boom, you share that 10 seconds.

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You click on that and these 
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Killing People write that type 
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So this is the problem that we 
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Was it in the Book of Daniel? 
He said, Daniel people will go 

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to and fro and knowledge will 
increase, right? 

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I don't know if he's talked 
about the internet age but it 

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does seem like what's going on 
knowledge. 

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Right? 
Knowledge right now that some of

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it is good knowledge is someone 
who is just absolutely horrific,

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right? 
And there's like everybody's 

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drinking water from a fire hose 
like quickly, clicking on these 

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type of things. 
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could for who knows about the 
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in that scenario that 
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exponentially Ali, right, and 
what's going on? 

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Ironically in the western world 
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part of the world. 
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in Congress, in college campuses
and you curriculum, you name it,

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right? 
So you have actually those who 

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are experts much smarter than me
saying Jew hatred in the west 

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back in the u.s. is at reaching 
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Yeah. 
Meanwhile, Israel is making 

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peace with UAE and Saudi Arabia 
and would do the Bahrain right. 

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In Morocco and Sudan. 
What in the world is going on 

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here? 
What we have here is in these 

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systems here with our social 
media and with all this 

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disinformation, all kinds of 
from David Duke for to Louis 

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farrakhan's you name it left 
right whatever. 

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I have these people who have a 
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right? 
And all these like you said the 

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videos and all this false 
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So for us we recognize that 
that's actually the case and we 

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try to not get distracted by the
fact that yes there's a there's 

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all kinds of of negative stuff 
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And at the same time, what I 
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been with Citra Aqua, right? 
The other side like the other 

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side of that is. 
You can also spread good 

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information quickly as well. 
So making good content, sharing 

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good content. 
I remember a couple of years 

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ago, one of my daughters. 
She's she was saying Daddy, I'm 

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she's on there. 
Whether Instagram or whatever 

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and she said, I'm watching all 
this anti-semitic stuff, 

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everything and she said, and 
sometimes I feel like I 

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shouldn't even if I shared 
something that was the What 

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difference does it make? 
Because there's so much bad 

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that's out there and I told her,
I understand what you're saying,

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but that's where we have to in 
the spiritual sense. 

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Trust God, right? 
So that if it's a situation, all

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this bad stuff happened, don't 
get discouraged. 

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Don't let the fact that you see 
a lot of anti-Semitism on social

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media discourage you from 
showing sharing something that, 

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you know, is true and that's 
been my experience being that. 

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There have been people time to 
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Who will read or see something? 
Maybe that I've done other 

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people. 
Oh, and they've come back and 

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things. 
You know what, I never thought 

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about that before, but when you 
said X, it made me go and look 

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at such and such. 
So that's our response to that, 

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is that, as bad as it is, that 
we fight the fight because it 

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still needs to be fought, and 
there are people there who can 

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receive good information that 
someone post and share that with

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their Community with their 
church or whoever. 

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And that can also take hold as 
well. 

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So, one thing I'm noticing also 
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clearly been tension I think as 
a New Yorker, you know, that 

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after the Crown Heights riots 
that there was this tension 

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between the Jewish and black 
communities, and obviously, 

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we're going to get to, you know,
how to build Bridges with the 

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black community, but first, I 
want to point out something that

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I noticed was, it's kind of a 
weird Trend but like the 

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strangest, you know, Group which
is seeing a grouping of like 

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people who follow Kanye West's. 
Ideas of, you know, 

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anti-Semitism kind of like the 
black supremacists and then you 

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see the Nick Fuentes and the 
white supremacist uniting. 

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And I actually was like, people 
ask me like work. 

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Why is this happening? 
How does that even make sense? 

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And I said it makes perfect 
sense, because they both want 

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the same thing. 
They both want segregation and 

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the work together to make that 
happen. 

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But but the scary part is that 
hating Jews is always the common

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denominator that unites the far.
In the far, right is. 

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So I'm just wondering, like, how
do we, you know, how do we 

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navigate that? 
How do we fix that? 

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Because I'm even seeing forget 
if you even take juice out of 

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the equation. 
I'm also noticing like the in 

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the black community there since 
consents. 

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Whoa, Chasm became a thing. 
There's this movement towards 

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segregation like 
self-segregation like they're 

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imposing on their own 
communities, whether it's all 

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black college, Ages and all 
that. 

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What do you feel about that? 
How do you how do you respond to

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all that? 
That's happening. 

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Well, I'm going back to the 
first thing because you asked 

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layered questions which is fine 
but I'll make sure that I'm 

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answering it for. 
So the first part with left and 

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right. 
So, yes, as you said extremes, 

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always leave with the Horseshoe 
Theory, right? 

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Extremes always meet. 
When Kanye West, the whole 

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thing. 
Explode again back I guess in 

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October, there was a there's a 
pro-israel group led by a 

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gentleman, I think out there in 
Australia and he did a piece. 

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Now, his Focus was Ben Shapiro. 
That wasn't our focus is thing. 

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Was he felt that Ben Shapiro was
not taking it seriously enough, 

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what Kanye was saying, right? 
And we shared the video, meaning

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we are going to station not, as 
a slight on, Ben Shapiro. 

453
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,000
That was my focus. 
What he did in the video was 

454
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,700
something that was very 
instructive. 

455
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:05,700
We don't usually see it outside 
of of certain Community me. 

456
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,800
Obviously, it's usually Jewish 
who will see, and they'll 

457
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,700
actually give the chronicling 
with what I mean by that. 

458
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,900
Is that he goes back to Marcus 
Garvey, who partner with then 

459
00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:18,900
the head of the KKK, because of 
both segregation, right? 

460
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:20,500
He would he's a black 
nationalist, right? 

461
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:23,100
So he wanted to kind of go back 
to Africa and separate from 

462
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:26,700
white people that whole thing. 
But then he had this pack that 

463
00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:29,400
he made with this white 
supremacist, right? 

464
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:31,900
Then you fast forward a few 
years earlier if he was later, 

465
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,900
Elijah Muhammad. 
Then the leader of the Nation of

466
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:37,400
Islam is working with Named 
George Lincoln Rockwell. 

467
00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:38,700
Who was the head of the Nazi 
party? 

468
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,500
Right, he had this pack before 
Mountain before. 

469
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:42,500
Malcolm X was killed one of 
these. 

470
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:46,500
He revealed was this secret path
that the Nazis had with the 

471
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,200
Nation of Islam. 
Right there were literally he 

472
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,600
even gave the details of it, 
they're going to give a County 

473
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,300
in Georgia, to black people. 
That's where they were going to 

474
00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:54,900
live, right? 
And I was thinking, I could 

475
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:57,200
tell, people think about that. 
If he had the ability to 

476
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,500
negotiate County, that means he 
was speaking on behalf of 

477
00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:02,500
politicians. 
He was speaking, this Nazi was 

478
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,400
speaking on behalf of other 
people in government, if he's 

479
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,200
going to see feed an entire 
account, right? 

480
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,900
So you have that level of 
hatred, far left, right? 

481
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,200
This here you have this hatred 
for. 

482
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,400
I mean, it's funny people as far
as that spot, right? 

483
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,200
Well, I mean, it's funny because
they blur the lines, right? 

484
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,700
This whole, like the black 
supremacist thing, or the black 

485
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:24,100
nationalist part of it, we're 
like a Nation of Islam is 

486
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:25,500
concerned. 
Elijah Muhammad. 

487
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,200
They saw it as a means to end. 
They also hated use right now. 

488
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,300
You say, that's where Converse 
hated Jews, right? 

489
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:32,300
And they also wanted to separate
from white people, right? 

490
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,300
So you have this thing where 
these Nazis and the candy, and 

491
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:38,300
the name, Islam members come 
together, and they form this 

492
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:41,300
Union so fast forward to now, 
when Kanye West goes on about 

493
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,500
the Jews, who picks next plane 
taste? 

494
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,400
You have white supremacist 
groups that are actually in that

495
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,700
video that I'm referring to from
the gentleman from Australia. 

496
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:50,500
Can't remember the name of the 
organization right now. 

497
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,300
I apologize. 
But I know your time with the 

498
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:53,500
red beard guy. 
Yes. 

499
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,700
Yes sir. 
Absolutely. 

500
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,000
I'm actually going to be I mean 
I'm going to post it before this

501
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000
one but his name is. 
Joseph Cohen Jewish advocacy. 

502
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:02,800
All right. 
They look yes sir. 

503
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,200
I told her I said yeah I know 
what. 

504
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:05,600
So you saw I'm talking about, 
right? 

505
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,600
These white Smith's groups who 
have these black supremacist 

506
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,100
together and they're working 
stuff out right? 

507
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,500
And what's bringing them 
together the hatred for Jews? 

508
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:14,900
Right. 
So they like oh yeah Kanye's, 

509
00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:16,400
right? 
So you have white supremacist 

510
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,900
who hate black people. 
Come out Kanye's, right? 

511
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:19,700
Right? 
Yeah. 

512
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:21,200
Black people who hate white 
people? 

513
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,300
They're all rallying around you 
and David Duke is right? 

514
00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:25,800
Hey let's all join together and 
brotherly love. 

515
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:28,200
So none of this is new. 
Like you said this is all been 

516
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,800
going on for a very very long 
time. 

517
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:32,700
It's just for this current 
generation, they're seeing it 

518
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:35,700
for the first time. 
They've never seen this before. 

519
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,300
Right? 
So to your other point I'll say 

520
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,900
there's it's more nuanced than 
most people realize. 

521
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,400
Yes, there are some in the black
community who their thing is 

522
00:26:45,408 --> 00:26:47,500
just a secession, right? 
White people over there were 

523
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,500
over here, right? 
And then there's the other part 

524
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:55,700
of it being that's happening in 
which because of where we are. 

525
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,500
There are black Americans. 
You mentioned, for example, 

526
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:01,700
colleges hbcus for historically,
black colleges and universities.

527
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,800
They go all back all the way 
back to after the first section 

528
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,100
of the Civil War, right? 
Right. 

529
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,400
And they were actually, 
historically, black, because the

530
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,300
students had big black students 
couldn't go to regular colleges,

531
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:13,800
right? 
And so they still exist here 

532
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,100
today, right? 
And two of our daughters went to

533
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:17,300
our to. 
We have six children to our 

534
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:19,700
youngest, went to one, went to 
Howard one, went to say an 

535
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,100
awesome Augustine in North 
Carolina. 

536
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,500
That's an environment that they 
wanted to be a part of. 

537
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,900
They felt enriched by and 
everything. 

538
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:29,700
And so we went had a great time.
They had their challenges but it

539
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,200
had nothing to do with you know 
anything other than being in 

540
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,400
school, right? 
And the reason I mentioned that 

541
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:40,300
is that there are some who are 
black Americans who particularly

542
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:44,200
now with so much of the 
devastation of our homes and 

543
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,900
families since the 1960s, when 
you are aware of that are 

544
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,500
reclaiming, a Heritage in terms 
of who they are in terms of 

545
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:52,700
identity. 
Right? 

546
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,100
Who, why is it important that we
know who Frederick Douglass and 

547
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,000
Booker T? 
Washington? 

548
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:00,000
Why is it important that we 
understand what we were able to 

549
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,500
build? 
100 years all the way a century 

550
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:06,100
after the Civil War after 
Slavery. 

551
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,000
Why those things are so 
important because they have a 

552
00:28:08,008 --> 00:28:11,300
lot to do with the lack of 
identity today, right? 

553
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,100
So, this is part of what's going
on. 

554
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Unfortunately, like I said about
the social media part, it's also

555
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,200
happening at a time of great 
social racial division, 

556
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,700
anti-Semitism, Israel, hatred, 
all of these things. 

557
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:27,500
We, I was telling the rabbi 
friend. 

558
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,400
I said, was it the Jewish people
who said, may you live in 

559
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,300
interesting times? 
He said, no, that was actually a

560
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,300
Chinese person. 
Or something that I can remember

561
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:35,600
was a philosopher said, well 
whoever said it would be Should 

562
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,200
all, you know, you know, 
sarcastically, thank him because

563
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,000
these are the times that we are 
living in. 

564
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,600
Now, right now, everything in my
opinion is increased on an 

565
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:53,000
exponential level, you have a 
great deal of disinformation a 

566
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,900
great deal, what's fueling? 
That is Jew hatred, right? 

567
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,300
And then you also have a lot of 
good information, being shared 

568
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:03,400
in a very, very fast way. 
And people are kind of bleeding 

569
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,900
from that as well and that's 
where it kind of the Biting 

570
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:08,600
thing is happening, right? 
You either grabbing onto 

571
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,900
Darkness into light, you either 
grabbing onto hatred or to love,

572
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:13,300
right? 
This is kind of what's happening

573
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,500
right now, but it's coming at 
you at a hundred miles an hour, 

574
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,500
right? 
This is unfortunately, this is 

575
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,100
where we are, and it's 
overwhelming. 

576
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,500
So for some last part of it here
for some black Americans and we 

577
00:29:24,508 --> 00:29:27,200
talked about this, a lot of what
we deal with in our organization

578
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,100
being is what we call authentic 
history. 

579
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:35,300
And we talk about really quick 
example, in 1960, the mayor 

580
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000
That's rate in. 
The black community was slightly

581
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,400
higher than that in the white 
Community. 

582
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:43,200
There were more husbands and 
fathers and mothers and fathers 

583
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,500
who say raising to almost 80 
percent today, between 70, 80 

584
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,900
percent, do not have home have 
father's, right? 

585
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,500
So this complete reversal in 
just a short period of time. 

586
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,900
What in the world happened? 
We don't have time to unpack. 

587
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:56,400
All of them. 
What happened and how it 

588
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,100
actually happened. 
But you're talking about the 

589
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,400
effect of the removal of the men
from a community and just let 

590
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,600
your imagination run wild. 
What community could sustain And

591
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,000
it's men being removed, nobody's
out, Jewish non-jewish by. 

592
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,900
This is not going to happen, and
this is not a slight on when 

593
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:13,000
there's nothing to do with know 
that women are strong. 

594
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:17,300
We're talking about whether men 
and women are meant to Old 

595
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,200
strong families, and 
communities. 

596
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,800
And what happens when you just 
remove one of those people from 

597
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,600
the equation, right? 
This was actually happening. 

598
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,000
Now, we talked about in terms of
Olympic history, Professor for 

599
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,100
young black, Americans, for them
to understand that, some of what

600
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,800
they see. 
Now is a new phenomenon, this 

601
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,300
was not the case just a 
generation ago, right? 

602
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,300
This is summer, why we teach 
that because we take to teach 

603
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,000
about you can we tell them you 
come from a legacy that was 

604
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000
centuries of slavery. 
Another story of Jim Crow but 

605
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
you still Will had families. 
You still had churches. 

606
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,600
You still had institutions. 
This is what very much like our 

607
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,900
Jewish brothers and sisters. 
Very much isolated, but you 

608
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:55,200
built your homes and your 
families. 

609
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,300
This is some of what's happening
right now, understanding 

610
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:02,300
identity Heritage and trying to 
move forward, some people in, 

611
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:05,100
not understanding what all that 
means, it becomes an anti white 

612
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:05,700
thing, right? 
Okay. 

613
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:06,500
Well here's what we're going to 
do. 

614
00:31:06,508 --> 00:31:09,900
We're going to coalesce around 
white people are evil and Jewish

615
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:11,400
Jewish. 
People are evil, that's the 

616
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,500
minority, but that is actually 
happening for some for some, 

617
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:19,100
it's a much broader here. 
Is what history actually is here

618
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,600
is what Legacy and Heritage 
actually is. 

619
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,600
So it's a very, very mixed bag 
but again it's a broad thing 

620
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,600
that's happening the same time. 
So something that I'm observing 

621
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,700
is that like I've never met. 
I mean, I don't live in the 

622
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:35,400
south or in places where there's
outward, you know, anti-Semitism

623
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,900
from white people. 
But like, I don't see white 

624
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,900
quote, unquote culture 
celebrating a David Duke. 

625
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,900
It's kind of like an underground
thing. 

626
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:47,400
But for example, black people 
who might not, Even be Muslim. 

627
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:52,100
They celebrate fryer can as just
a strong black figure in the 

628
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:54,600
community, it's part of the 
culture cultural thing. 

629
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,400
It's like he's our Minister. 
He's not so like you see rappers

630
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,800
or celebrities who will show him
respect even recently. 

631
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,700
When I watched the movie you 
people, I think it was called 

632
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:10,000
with Jonah Hill and Eddie Murphy
and like this glorification 

633
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,600
romanticizing of like Farrakhan 
as if as if that's the the, you 

634
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,400
know, black hole. 
Real experience. 

635
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:24,600
And it really it actually hurts 
to see that today because I 

636
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,900
thought that the Jewish 
connection to the Civil Rights 

637
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,900
Movement was should have been 
Everlasting. 

638
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:34,000
You know, it should have had, we
had, for example, Rabbi heschel 

639
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,600
hand-in-hand with dr. 
King and these symbols, you 

640
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,900
know, the history of Jewish 
people who were dying for this 

641
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,600
cause it's kind of been washed 
away. 

642
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:48,400
It's It celebrated its not 
romanticized. 

643
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,100
So I'm just even the movie, 
Selma, you don't really, you 

644
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:55,100
know, see that. 
So what can we do to kind of 

645
00:32:55,100 --> 00:33:00,400
maybe shift the culture towards 
under, you know, looking at 

646
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:06,000
figures like yourself and others
who are kind of leading the way 

647
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,500
in terms of, you know, Shifting 
the conversation in the new 

648
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:12,800
direction that an idiot way to 
diminish. 

649
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,400
This amazing podcast. 
I just I want to just give a A 

650
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,100
little heads-up for, as I 
answered this question that you 

651
00:33:21,108 --> 00:33:24,400
just asked, I was with Marissa 
strike Street. 

652
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,200
Like, I'm saying the wrong way 
from Prager and people can 

653
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,700
Google it. 
I, we did a sit-down and the 

654
00:33:30,708 --> 00:33:34,000
reason I'm mentioning that is 
because I unpack some of that, 

655
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,900
they're not that I'm not going 
to do a little bit of it here, 

656
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,400
right? 
The Farrakhan think is, which is

657
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,600
kind of a unique phenomenon. 
So going back to what I said 

658
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,400
about black families, strong, 
all the kind of stuff like that.

659
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,300
So we would keep had is a vacuum
of black male leadership and 

660
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:51,100
it's because it's a very 
sensitive topic. 

661
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:52,900
It doesn't get discussed very 
much. 

662
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:55,800
So as I said it, as I said 
before and I've also said in a 

663
00:33:55,808 --> 00:34:00,900
book as welfare Condon becomes a
father figure to many people for

664
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:03,200
lots of different reasons. 
Now, part of the other 

665
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,500
complexity with that is that the
Nation of Islam not just on the 

666
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:08,699
fair combat under him since he 
has he's been the leader since 

667
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:10,900
the 70s I believe it is. 
I have to wonder after Google 

668
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:14,699
and find out when he actually 
became leader, has done a lot of

669
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:16,000
good things in the black 
community. 

670
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,400
Help. 
Jesus recidivism rate, them 

671
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,400
being there's almost negligible 
drug used rate, not those are 

672
00:34:23,408 --> 00:34:26,600
types of things, preach the 
whole thing, about strong 

673
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,100
families and strong, fathers, 
and all those type of things 

674
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,400
which are positive things in 
terms of the community. 

675
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:35,000
Unfortunately also comes with 
the baggage of Jew, hatred, and 

676
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,199
Israel, hatred. 
So, you have these things all 

677
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,300
together. 
So for those who feel very loyal

678
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:43,600
to Farrakhan, they look past 
those other things, are they 

679
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,400
make excuses almost like a 
relative that you have. 

680
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,300
That you really love it. 
You know, he's a racist or, you 

681
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:49,100
know, he's or whatever like 
that, but you make excuses from 

682
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:52,500
that's actually what has been a 
communal thing, right? 

683
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:55,100
For those they'll say about 
their come daily, to be afraid 

684
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:58,900
to say something negative or 
criticize him in any way, 

685
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:01,000
especially publicly. 
Right? 

686
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,400
So, I some of them get 
frustrating. 

687
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,500
I do it. 
I, I told them Marissa when we 

688
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,500
were talking about it. 
Having that conversation, I was 

689
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:11,200
saying, I even asked myself 
being because I've known about 

690
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,800
him, since I'm at least my 
twenties, I didn't know I was a 

691
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,100
little bitty kid, right? 
But when I was now, late teens 

692
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,100
early 20s, when I became I'm 
aware of Louis Farrakhan, who he

693
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:19,100
was. 
I would see some of his 

694
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,700
preaching and that type of thing
and it was, it was almost in 

695
00:35:21,707 --> 00:35:23,400
stages. 
I didn't really know about his 

696
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,400
anti-jewish stance a little bit 
later on. 

697
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,500
I don't hate some of the 
messages and I would hear a 

698
00:35:27,508 --> 00:35:30,500
message and maybe 70% of it. 
I would agree with right 

699
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:32,800
families that any other, and we 
would go off on some other 

700
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,600
tangents, you know, anti-america
and teeth whitening whatever. 

701
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,700
Well, for me and just like to 
tell you my, my particular 

702
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:42,900
perspective, And I don't say 
this to be facetious or 

703
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:44,400
anything. 
I was looking for father had a 

704
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,800
file. 
You very much with my father was

705
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,000
love. 
My father raised me right? 

706
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,300
So for me there was no vacuum 
for him to be a father figure. 

707
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:54,000
I could look objectively. 
Hear what he was saying. 

708
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,000
Say this part I think is cool. 
This part is what a difference, 

709
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,300
a mashugana right and walk away,
right? 

710
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:01,800
And just and literally walk 
away. 

711
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,500
No there's no emotional 
attachment. 

712
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:05,400
There's no anchors. 
Oh my God. 

713
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,300
I have to make excuses for this 
part by. 

714
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:10,300
There's none of that, right? 
It was only as I got older. 

715
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:15,400
That I recognized, what was 
going on in a mass way for those

716
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,900
who even and I want to name 
names now but because it's not 

717
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,900
all that important. 
But as you said, hip-hop figures

718
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:25,800
Moguls, whatever like that. 
Cool praise him, right? 

719
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,900
And then at the same time have a
great reputation. 

720
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,000
Those people in the Jewish 
Community right there, I had my 

721
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,900
Jewish friends that any other 
and then he welfare comes like a

722
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:35,800
dad to me. 
Was I going okay, your dad is 

723
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,100
like a, it's a Nazi supporting. 
I mean, just today I'm on 

724
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:43,800
social. 
Posting saviors day and I guess 

725
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,000
it's Chicago. 
They have the annual big, I 

726
00:36:46,008 --> 00:36:48,100
don't care what it's called, not
trying to be disrespectful but 

727
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:50,000
they have something nice of 
Islam, right? 

728
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,100
So one of his Sarah gets gets up
farrakhan's, and does this whole

729
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:59,400
speech about how he's not an 
anti-semite, that's always the 

730
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,000
game that gets playwright 
Farrakhan Farrakhan he said, and

731
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,900
I quote, I'm not at the same 
item Matthew turn, right? 

732
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:07,700
But the dude, he's he's very not
CS can always say, I mean, 

733
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,100
that's what you do. 
You, dehumanize people, you call

734
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:11,600
them insects. 
Call them Road, in fact that's 

735
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,700
what Hitler did, right? 
So for this guy gets up and he 

736
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,900
says all bit, they the Jews have
always accuse everybody of 

737
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:21,000
anti-Semitism. 
He goes to this long list of 

738
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,100
these different people. 
Some of that, you may have heard

739
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:25,300
us and we never heard of, but I 
he's all they call this person 

740
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:27,500
and he sent me this person. 
That's my, that's my point. 

741
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,100
You know, they named in that 
long list here. 

742
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:36,900
So let me prove to you that. 
I'm telling you that you also 

743
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:39,100
falsely call Hitler. 
And he's right that kind of 

744
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,700
thing, right? 
So what Is my point. 

745
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:46,100
How emotionally needy do you 
have to be to look at that and 

746
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:47,900
go look past that and go out? 
Yeah. 

747
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:50,700
Well, he's not to do know the 
guy hates Jews, then he just got

748
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:53,500
through telling you that. 
If you consider Hitler and 

749
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:56,900
anti-semite, then you're wrong, 
just like you're wrong about 

750
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:58,600
Farrakhan. 
That's not a winning argument, 

751
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,800
right? 
That's not what that actually 

752
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,400
means. 
And here's my point to your 

753
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,400
point, why do some cover for 
that? 

754
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,800
Because they'll look at all of 
the positive things that he 

755
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,500
does. 
And they'll look past stuff, 

756
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:11,600
like embracing Nazis, right? 
And a history of embracing me, 

757
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,100
Nazis and they'll just say well 
and they'll point to flaws in 

758
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:15,900
somebody else. 
Oh yeah. 

759
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:17,100
Well this person said that, 
okay. 

760
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,800
Fine, you may be right about 
that. 

761
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,700
That still doesn't change. 
The fact that hit the 

762
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:22,400
farrakhan's praising Nazis, 
right? 

763
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,500
And and the Nation of Islam has 
been very close to the Nazis, 

764
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,500
right? 
So so the answer your question, 

765
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:32,400
and in that sense, there are 
some who don't or unwilling to 

766
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,100
make at least, if not mentally, 
especially not publicly and say,

767
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,400
I condemn this, this is wrong 
there, they refuse to go there. 

768
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:45,500
Yeah, and that's something that 
I was trying to see if there's. 

769
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,400
You just clarified it for me 
that there are people in the 

770
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,700
community who do see the issue, 
but they can't really feel they 

771
00:38:51,707 --> 00:38:54,100
don't feel comfortable speaking 
out about it, so that's 

772
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:59,200
comforting in a way because, you
know, I think that I would like 

773
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,700
to hope that people are not 
taking those things to heart, 

774
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:07,600
but I do want to know how we can
kind of build Bridges between 

775
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,400
the communities because there's 
like kind of an unspoken Tension

776
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,900
for whatever reason between the 
communities. 

777
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:19,600
And we don't see so many, you 
know, Lucy crossovers between 

778
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,100
like a you know the Jewish the 
Black Hebrew Israelites and the 

779
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:27,000
Orthodox Jewish rabbis let's say
for example sitting together and

780
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:31,400
having you know speeches and and
just just like kind of clearing 

781
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,000
the air. 
So I think it's I think it's 

782
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,500
about time that this is 
happening because the tension is

783
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:42,500
mounting and the anti-Semitism 
is at all I'm high and it's a 

784
00:39:42,508 --> 00:39:46,200
shame because, you know, I I 
always felt growing up that the 

785
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,300
we have so much in common, our 
communities. 

786
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:54,100
So I'm happy that you're taking,
you know, charge and you're 

787
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,700
being involved in the change. 
But I do want to know like what 

788
00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:59,100
are your thoughts? 
And how do we do this? 

789
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:03,500
And there's and I also wanted to
ask about the idea and I think 

790
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:07,800
it may be relates to each other 
like on what we see on campuses.

791
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,500
I know I'm I'm packing questions
together, but Entice 

792
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:16,400
anti-zionism being the new 
anti-Semitism there is this, you

793
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,800
know, there's that issue and the
young black community, the young

794
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,300
white Community, everybody's 
hearing this on campus. 

795
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:25,400
So what do you have to say about
that? 

796
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:29,200
So let's get a little said we'll
come back to the campus thing, 

797
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:29,600
right? 
Let's do it. 

798
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,500
The first part, fortunately, in 
terms of the black and Jewish 

799
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:39,400
communities, right? 
Rabbis pastors and that's energy

800
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,800
is still very much in place 
their Racers that are there. 

801
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,000
What I mean by that, is this I 
tell people often for the last 

802
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,300
Almost decade. 
I've had the privilege of doing 

803
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:50,600
this type of work, but between 
both communities and speaking 

804
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,100
Rabbi speaking black churches, 
that speaking shoes that, you 

805
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:58,400
know, I'll be with the jcr. 
See this weekend, right? 

806
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,500
I mean, so I have the, the 
opportunity to do that and I 

807
00:41:01,508 --> 00:41:04,100
seen all kinds of unique events.
I see, I mean, I just, you know,

808
00:41:04,107 --> 00:41:06,200
event just black and Jewish 
people working together by doing

809
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,600
it and it still happens on the 
ground across the country, 

810
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,600
right? 
And a very organic way, Not so 

811
00:41:11,607 --> 00:41:13,000
much. 
Hey, I'm Blackbeard used as do 

812
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,900
something that, no, they just, 
they're working on stuff in 

813
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:16,800
their communities. 
They're doing stuff. 

814
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,200
You know, there are different 
peoples boards and that 

815
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,700
continues. 
And I often tell people, they 

816
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:25,100
little surprised because as you 
know, in the work that you do, 

817
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,900
there's the real world. 
There's a virtual world, 

818
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,500
Unfortunately. 
They can impact each other, 

819
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,700
absolutely, right. 
The virtual world can be a 

820
00:41:30,707 --> 00:41:32,300
megaphone. 
What's going on? 

821
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,300
But at the same time, there's 
the Distortion of it as well. 

822
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,800
So, as louder voices of 
Farrakhan, is he still doesn't 

823
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,700
speak Or the majority of the 
black community. 

824
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:46,200
Particularly when it comes to 
relationships with Jewish people

825
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,200
right there, they all they, 
maybe they won't bring it up, 

826
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,200
right? 
They'll just leave it alone but 

827
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,300
they have friends with rabbis 
and Jewish friends. 

828
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,300
They do things together all 
those types of things, right? 

829
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:55,000
I remember I'll tell a quick 
story. 

830
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:59,900
There's a African-American 
gentleman who I met several 

831
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,700
months ago on LinkedIn, right? 
We were kind of talking back and

832
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:04,400
forth. 
He saw some of my post about 

833
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:06,800
Institute for Black solidarity 
with Israel and everything and 

834
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,200
he reached out and we began to 
talk and we've actually met 

835
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,000
together and really we want 
wonderful young man. 

836
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:12,900
You went wonderful, wonderful. 
Essay young man. 

837
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:16,900
You're older man. 
And he told me a quick story 

838
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:21,500
about his dad and his dad is 
very close to his friend. 

839
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:22,900
They served in the military 
together. 

840
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,600
They live in the Baltimore area,
right? 

841
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,800
Maryland, they wanted to go into
business together again. 

842
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,100
They didn't say, hey, I'm black 
your juices. 

843
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:32,100
Do they were just friends, 
right? 

844
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,200
They just happen, right? 
So they went to the local 

845
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,700
Chamber of Commerce to go join 
and guess what happened then? 

846
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,600
They said it was neither one of 
the right. 

847
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,500
No Jews. 
No blacks, no dog. 

848
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:44,000
Basically, they laughed. 
They laughed him out of the 

849
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,800
building, right? 
So, what they did is they 

850
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
started their own organization. 
They had their own little Club. 

851
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,300
They got cigars, they got a 
seriously, people would come 

852
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:52,100
from all over. 
They started their own business.

853
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,900
To it, became a string of 
grocery stores, right? 

854
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:55,800
They weren't trying to write a 
civil rights movie, right? 

855
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,300
They, these guys were friends, 
they were already friends, but 

856
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:02,800
that friendship got forged even 
more because of the hatred in 

857
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,900
the community for both of them 
as Jews and his back to the, and

858
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,100
his parents wound up, sending 
him. 

859
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,600
There's only two school this 
during segregation in Baltimore,

860
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:15,600
that would take black students. 
There's a Quaker School and a 

861
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,100
Jewish school, right? 
His parents enrolled him in the 

862
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,900
Jewish school. 
So, he literally grows up 

863
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,100
around, Jewish kids. 
They, some of his best friend's 

864
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,800
to this day, right? 
I hear stories like that. 

865
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,300
All that. 
I can take a lot of time because

866
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:28,700
I'm a passion. 
I grab my as we can talk 

867
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,200
about.and, hear those stories 
all the time and those 

868
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,700
relationships remain. 
They continue to be 

869
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,100
strengthened. 
They've been passed on to their 

870
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:39,500
Generations. 
Course, social media will never 

871
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:42,600
say any of those things, okay? 
For those who might be 

872
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,700
incredulous, when you consider 
all the anti-Semitism of a Kanye

873
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:48,800
West who are some of his closest
business associates choose, 

874
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,500
right, people who work with him 
for decades literally who 

875
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,900
continue to work with them. 
Some of them have distanced 

876
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,000
themselves because of some of 
what he said. 

877
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,800
But Kanye knows were all the 
crap that he's trying to throw 

878
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,100
the Jewish people. 
It has been Jewish people who 

879
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:05,100
help and work with him that have
helped make him. 

880
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,800
The success that he is not that 
he's not gonna Talented not 

881
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,500
exactly very capable. 
Right and this is unfortunately,

882
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,900
part of the other stories add to
that to add to that. 

883
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:18,900
Actually the bridges that he 
burned with Balenciaga, Chase 

884
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:22,100
and Adidas. 
None of those were owned by 

885
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:25,800
Jews, so it's not like he 
playing juice for real. 

886
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,400
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
Right. 

887
00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:29,800
So, there's a lot of people who 
know he's full of crap, right? 

888
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,400
They look very common thing and 
I will do what I'll do. 

889
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,200
Okay, you makes a good point. 
Hey black families back cause 

890
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,900
that the other up. 
Okay, now he's on the hole. 

891
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:39,500
Do you thing in Israel? 
And they'll just kind of 

892
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:40,800
separate like in, like, your 
crazy uncle. 

893
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,700
They look like, they'll go like,
okay, well, Uncle Jack is kind 

894
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,200
of, you know, they are again, 
leave alone. 

895
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,300
That's how some people didn't. 
Now, obviously, we're serious 

896
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,700
with, it's a very serious time 
because that hatred gets spewed 

897
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,300
out on social media. 
And you have what that going TV,

898
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:55,800
right? 
Kanye was right, you have these 

899
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,600
white supremacist who are like 
champion and Kanye. 

900
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,100
They didn't need any more help 
but all they did was they just 

901
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:02,800
kind of added get them more 
fuel. 

902
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,900
So just I want to say to you, 
you didn't answer your question 

903
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,200
when it comes to the The work, I
encourage my Jewish friends, the

904
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,800
laugh of the often that yours 
might be Jewish. 

905
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,800
Friends will often say what can 
we do more when? 

906
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,700
And I'm not saying it's funny, 
it's always, it gives me joy in 

907
00:45:17,707 --> 00:45:21,000
my heart because here is often 
times, our Jewish friends, 

908
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
they're being attacked, their 
being assailed and they're like,

909
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,600
oh no, what what can we do to 
help was like, when I kind of 

910
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,800
chuckled, I said, you know, what
do what you all have been doing 

911
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,700
since the date of Julius 
Rosenwald and Booker T 

912
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:34,700
Washington, helped do sow your 
seeds, all of the kind of stuff 

913
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:37,900
and then just just continue to 
you continue to be You continue 

914
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:41,100
to terrorize, you continue to 
reach out, you can do that and 

915
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:44,100
you're going to find that you'll
have black people who continue 

916
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,600
to do the same thing with you, 
even in the midst of all of the 

917
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,000
noise, right? 
Not that what's going on? 

918
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,700
It's not serious, right? 
But continue to do that. 

919
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,100
So for those who ask that next 
question, what can happen 

920
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:54,300
continue to do? 
What you're doing? 

921
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:57,500
Reach out to somebody. 
I talked with somebody there's a

922
00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:00,500
passed through the area. 
Hey, would you like that's one 

923
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:03,700
of these organization does? 
We try to match different groups

924
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:05,000
with each other and people with 
each other? 

925
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000
So they can further those and 
chips if they haven't already 

926
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,600
started it. 
So I just want to say that part 

927
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,100
the last part here, the school 
part and so you bring up 

928
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,000
something because it's 
education, it's politics to 

929
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,900
everything. 
I tell people all the time, just

930
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:23,300
like, for me, I been, I try to 
be a consistent individual and 

931
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:26,300
that if I'm going to for 
example, call out you hatred, 

932
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:27,700
I'll call it out. 
Wherever right? 

933
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,900
Yes. 
I'm a black man. 

934
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:31,500
Love my family. 
I love my community, and I 

935
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:34,300
recognize the type of Statute 
that Louis Farrakhan is but I 

936
00:46:34,308 --> 00:46:36,600
have no problem publicly, right?
I won't call my name, I do. 

937
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,300
Base to be respect for my elders
by, you'll never see me columns 

938
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:42,300
and photo derogatory thing. 
But I will be with without 

939
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:45,400
pulling any punches saying this 
is completely untrue, your 

940
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,300
cozying up with Nazis this that 
and then people get frustrated 

941
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:49,400
by that, but that's how I was 
raised. 

942
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,800
I don't really care right there 
to make a difference. 

943
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,800
When I tell people, I'm not 
trying to offend you, I just 

944
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,900
don't care if you're offended by
just going to actually tell you 

945
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:58,800
the truth, right? 
So to us in our organization, 

946
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,900
the greatest incubator of Jew 
hatred in the United States, is 

947
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:05,800
not the Nation of Islam is not 
the Black Hebrew Israelites, 

948
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:08,600
it's our car. 
College campuses and 

949
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,500
universities. 
You are talking about a 

950
00:47:10,508 --> 00:47:13,700
systematic faculty 
Administration, curriculum. 

951
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:16,100
And not just lately, when you 
talked about anti-Semitism and 

952
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:19,200
anti-zionism be anti-Semitism, 
we go back to the 60s. 

953
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:22,600
This has been going on for a 
while, right? 

954
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,500
So here is where our children 
are being indoctrinated, Zionism

955
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,000
is racism, Israel's committing 
genocide against the 

956
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,100
Palestinians, God's has an 
open-air prison on and on, and 

957
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:35,500
on, and yada yada, yada yada. 
So now we're talking about race 

958
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:38,300
and politics who controls the 
Campuses last Outlook is not 

959
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:39,400
black people, it's white 
progressives. 

960
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,000
White progressives, 
overwhelmingly control what goes

961
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,800
on on these campuses. 
And by the way, this not going 

962
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,300
on on hbcus, you don't see the 
anti-Semitism Aunty where the 

963
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:52,400
rabbit at are there. 
Pro-palestinian activities on 

964
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,300
those some of those campus. 
Absolutely. 

965
00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:56,600
But all this marching around 
with Palestinian Flags, 

966
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,900
intifada, intifada, long live, 
the intifada. 

967
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:01,700
That's not happening Howard, 
that's not happening at Spelman.

968
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,400
That's happening at Berkeley. 
That's happening at Stanford, 

969
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:06,900
it's happening where white 
progressives. 

970
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:09,500
Roll the space and I try to make
us a racist slur. 

971
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:11,800
No, I'm saying, just like the 
black community needs to do with

972
00:48:11,808 --> 00:48:14,600
the Farrakhan. 
We don't control what goes on on

973
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,100
these campuses and fortunately, 
there are Jews involved in that 

974
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:18,600
too. 
So why take it go. 

975
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,900
Yeah. 
Right. 

976
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,900
I've been on campuses where 
there was no students for 

977
00:48:21,908 --> 00:48:24,600
justice in Palestine, but the 
Jewish kids on the campus 

978
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,600
started one because they felt 
didn't want anyone need to be 

979
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,600
there when my God. 
Are you kidding me, right? 

980
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:32,700
So this is actually happening. 
I have older Jewish parents 

981
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:36,100
coming to me, lamenting the fact
that their kids and grandkids 

982
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:39,300
went to the school. - and came 
out anti-zionist, right? 

983
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:43,900
This is happening on a systemic 
level and Eastern almost 

984
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:44,700
ignored. 
Yes, sir. 

985
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,700
Jews are even on the left that, 
you know, they were a lot of 

986
00:48:47,707 --> 00:48:49,400
them are raised by Holocaust 
Survivors. 

987
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:55,200
So, any perceived victim will 
always try to Champion them and 

988
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,500
stand behind them, so I get 
where that's coming from, 

989
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:01,200
they're just being misinformed, 
but it's crazy how some, you 

990
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,200
know, like the Nazis basically 
wrote The Playbook on propaganda

991
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,100
and the more you repeat a lie. 
Why? 

992
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,000
The more people will just 
believe it in this hole, I've 

993
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,300
never seen genocide with 
population growth. 

994
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,300
Their population, I will sing 
population is growing, how is it

995
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,300
going to side? 
So let's back, don't matter. 

996
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:20,000
Right? 
What - why doesn't it matter? 

997
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,300
Because the Jews just insert 
some sort of bad thing and put 

998
00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:25,800
juice in there and then boom, 
it's believable because of the 

999
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,100
Jews. 
And this is to that you probably

1000
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:32,600
know how to boot Swami's, an 
Arab Israeli journalist Decades 

1001
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,500
of experience. 
He actually before, I mean, he 

1002
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:36,800
just writes the truth. 
He actually started as part. 

1003
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,500
Yasser arafat's press Corps, 
right? 

1004
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:40,800
He's actually writing for them. 
They probably reason why he got 

1005
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,700
kicked to the curb because he 
refused to tow the party line. 

1006
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:46,300
He was actually tell the truth. 
Okay, well patatas doing this, 

1007
00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:47,700
they don't want to tell me, 
right? 

1008
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:51,600
He travels to the United States 
in 2009, to give a series of 

1009
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,500
lectures, he can't give one 
lecture everywhere, he's got 

1010
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:58,000
cops 12 deep, right? 
Everybody wants to like a piece 

1011
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,500
of him yelling and screaming and
all stuff, and finally, he can't

1012
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,100
really deliver speeches. 
He they all he's a sellout. 

1013
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:06,800
He's just adding the other. 
He can't even do not debate. 

1014
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:08,900
In him. 
They're not like no asking him 

1015
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:11,700
questions after lecture this, 
shutting it down he goes back to

1016
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:13,100
Jerusalem where he was born and 
raised. 

1017
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,800
And he writes an article and 
basically says we shouldn't be 

1018
00:50:15,808 --> 00:50:18,200
surprised at the next jihadists.
Don't come from Afghanistan to 

1019
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,500
Pakistan but come from us 
college campus. 

1020
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:23,400
Once again, Farrakhan last, I 
checked his not comparing 

1021
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,500
controlling those campus. 
Are they sharing some of 

1022
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:26,400
information? 
Yes. 

1023
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:28,600
But the Nation of Islam is not 
in controlling that. 

1024
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,400
And why do I keep making that 
point? 

1025
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,900
Because what often happens is, 
as you said, some of the 

1026
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:38,700
anti-Semitism will get the past.
Because if we're really going to

1027
00:50:38,707 --> 00:50:42,700
have a kind of reconcile with 
ourselves moment as Americans, 

1028
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,500
we'd have to really have 
conversations about who's 

1029
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:48,200
funding this anti-israel 
activity on these campuses. 

1030
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,500
Right? 
Why does the pflp have people 

1031
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:54,700
receiving faculty member from 
San Francisco State University 

1032
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,200
and meeting with? 
At last I checked there are 

1033
00:50:56,207 --> 00:50:58,000
terrorist organization 
registered with our state 

1034
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,800
department but somehow faculty 
from our us universities, can go

1035
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,000
and leave with them, and then 
come back and then host later, 

1036
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,300
Colorado. 
What, what? 

1037
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:09,700
What's going on there? 
Are being radicalized on our 

1038
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:14,200
college campuses and that often 
doesn't get discussed because if

1039
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,800
you're going to discuss it, you 
have to discuss who are The 

1040
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,800
Gatekeepers. 
Most people want to have that 

1041
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,900
discussion, so it just goes by 
the wayside. 

1042
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:24,100
Yeah. 
And I think that is those are 

1043
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,900
conversations. 
I think we can actually have it 

1044
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,200
fit like you said if it wasn't 
being suppressed and they 

1045
00:51:28,207 --> 00:51:30,600
weren't stopping the 
conversation from happening, but

1046
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,700
like I've have more hope for 
that. 

1047
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,300
Part of the the demographic. 
Then I do for people who To like

1048
00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:41,200
the Alex Jones or the David 
Icke, and all these like, Jewish

1049
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,300
lizards Jewish space lasers, and
all that stuff. 

1050
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Those kind of conspiracy 
theories, you know, you can't 

1051
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,700
really do anything about it but 
I wanted to end on one and only 

1052
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:55,400
have a few minutes left. 
But I recently had an Imam on 

1053
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,200
the show and I asked him a 
question. 

1054
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,900
And I want to ask you the same 
question, but his religion 

1055
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:05,100
Islam. 
Do you feel that some of the 

1056
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:10,600
anti-Semitism and all the Ropes 
about, you know, Jews are baked 

1057
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,500
into Christianity where whether 
it's the verses that talk about 

1058
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:18,800
the synagogue of Satan, which I 
believe are taken out of context

1059
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:24,100
but also, you know, this 
Thousand-Year blood libel that 

1060
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:28,100
the Jews killed Jesus. 
Like, how do you shake off this?

1061
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:32,600
You know, it's been, I'm one of 
those individuals who brought up

1062
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,800
in the tradition of for a 
Christian who really understands

1063
00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:41,700
Is Faith really understands the 
concept of us being what we call

1064
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:43,300
the grafted into spiritual 
Israel. 

1065
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,400
Not replacing Israel. 
Not replacing, the Jewish 

1066
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,700
people. 
None of those types of things. 

1067
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,600
Then when David says, pray for 
the Peace of Jerusalem, May they

1068
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,900
Prosper that love the we are the
people who need to take that to 

1069
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:57,100
heart the most after obviously 
the Jewish people praying for 

1070
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:00,200
the Peace of Jerusalem, praying 
for the peace in the security of

1071
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,800
the nation, right. 
When when Genesis says, I will 

1072
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,100
bless those who bless Abraham's 
seed and curse those who could 

1073
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:11,300
we As Christians who truly 
believe in the word of God and 

1074
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:17,400
believe that our faith is built 
on the foundation of of Judaism 

1075
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,500
of the Torah, not on our our 
ability and need to proselytized

1076
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:25,200
Jewish people, but recognizing 
that if it wasn't for the Jewish

1077
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,100
people, we would not have our 
faith, right? 

1078
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:31,200
That those of us who claim 
Jesus, as the Savior are serving

1079
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,500
a Jewish Messiah, right? 
So, this actually is a Jewish 

1080
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:38,300
man born in Bethlehem. 
Raised in Nazareth priest in 

1081
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:40,200
Galilee. 
These actually not fantasy 

1082
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,000
lands. 
These are real land. 

1083
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,100
These are actually real places 
that I when we recognize that as

1084
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:49,500
Christians, then hatred for Jews
is one of the stupidest. 

1085
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,700
Most ignorant things that any 
Christian can do hatred for 

1086
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:54,900
Israel, hatred for the Jewish 
people. 

1087
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,000
So is it baked in? 
It's been there for a long time,

1088
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,200
there's no other entity that has
been more damaging into the 

1089
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,400
Jewish people, then the 
Christian Church during the two 

1090
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,000
thousand years of history, and 
that's just the absolute Loot 

1091
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,700
truth. 
Unfortunately, for those 

1092
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:15,000
individuals who took it upon 
themselves to either Force, try 

1093
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,900
to force proselytize, or kill, 
or persecute in the Name of 

1094
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:21,000
Christ. 
We're doing it and the 

1095
00:54:21,008 --> 00:54:24,600
Distortion and the 
bastardization of the faith that

1096
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,900
they said that they had. 
There's one last thing that you 

1097
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:32,200
said about not just big, 
Timbers, another part of your 

1098
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:39,200
part about being Christ Killers.
So it's In that, that was in the

1099
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,000
Nazis would do that. 
Then you killed Christ, and our 

1100
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,000
understanding of the narrative 
that Jesus, then is crucified 

1101
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,400
and for good for us as 
Christians crucified raised on 

1102
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,200
the third day, the type of 
thing, this happens in 

1103
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,500
Jerusalem. 
This happens as the hold of the 

1104
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:58,900
turmoil and tumult and it's the 
Romans who nail him. 

1105
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:03,900
The the it's the what's amazing 
here is that for those 

1106
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,600
Christians who then blamed, you 
Jews for the crucifixion of 

1107
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,700
Jesus. 
Also, have no real understanding

1108
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:14,500
of the scriptures that we say 
that. 

1109
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:17,900
We hold dear. 
That Jesus's followers were 

1110
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:21,500
Jewish, everybody in the upper 
room, on the book of Acts was 

1111
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,600
Jewish and you, you didn't have 
the Jewish men and women who 

1112
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,700
followed him, you wouldn't even 
have what we call as our faith, 

1113
00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:32,400
right? 
So that becomes a moot point. 

1114
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,400
In terms of saying that quote 
unquote, the Jews killed Jesus. 

1115
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,900
It's you It's amazing. 
What we teach in our faith. 

1116
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:47,000
Is that our sins crucified him 
that he, if I believe do we 

1117
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,200
sign, he believes that he died 
for me. 

1118
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,100
That means I'm the one who 
nailed him to the cause. 

1119
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:55,300
This wasn't about whether it was
Jewish, and is Romans people 

1120
00:55:55,300 --> 00:55:57,900
that it was me, that there's, 
this was for me, right? 

1121
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:00,500
I'm not someone as a Christian 
faith and I believe that he was 

1122
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:02,700
wounded for my transgressions 
bruised for our iniquities. 

1123
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,300
That's, that's me. 
That's, and I'm talking about my

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salvation. 
Someone who would twist this 

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around and then blamed use and 
then attack Jews. 

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As someone who killed their 
savior is just an anti-semite, 

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who's using whatever they can. 
As Christians at that point to 

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attack the Jewish people which 
again is completely Fallen to 

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what they say that, their actual
faith is. 

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So yes, we've heard those things
before and we've taught that to 

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other pastors and leaders before
that, that's a complete 

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distortion. 
And of both historical record. 

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But also what your understanding
as a Christian is supposed to be

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in terms of the god that you say
that you serve in the person 

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that you say that you believe is
the Messiah. 

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Yeah, it's interesting just just
to end on this. 

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I think that it's ironic also 
because, you know, the one thing

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they say that the Jews did wrong
is actually the source of their 

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salvation. 
So it's just like a mine who's 

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with your mind, right. 
Thank you so much for coming off

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and God bless you. 
Thank you for everything that 

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you do being. 
Friend to the Jewish people and 

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we hope to see you on many, 
other Jewish channels and 

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bringing peace between all 
people. 

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So thank you. 
Thank you. 

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Thanks for having me that. 
Appreciate it problem, take 

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care, you two. 
Hey guys, thanks so much for 

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tuning in to the Judy's and 
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Spreading the word, share it 
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whoever you think would be 
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Our patreon is www.a tree, 
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we hope to keep putting out 
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