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Welcome to Judaism demystified a
podcast for the perplexed. 

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We are joined by Rabbi Joseph. 
Dweck a right to work is the 

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senior Rabbi of the SP Sephardic
community of the UK, the 

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country's oldest Jewish 
Community established in 1656. 

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He was elected to this position 
in 2013, with a 272 for vote 

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margin, believed to be the 
largest and UK synagogue 

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history. 
I would wreck is even born and 

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studied in Jerusalem at Yeshiva 
has on ovadia under the tutelage

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of former Sephardic. 
Chief Rabbi revati Joseph, a 

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direct received his rabbinic 
ordination from Nevada under the

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auspices of the Sephardic 
rabbinical College of Brooklyn. 

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Led by Rabbi Shimon aloof and 
Robert Harold Sutton. 

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He has a master of arts degree 
in Jewish Education from 

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Middlesex University in 
conjunction with the London 

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School of Jewish studies and he 
is working towards a master's in

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Psychotherapy at Regent 
University London. 

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In this capacity of senior Rabbi
he oversees its religious Works 

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rabbinic staff and the Safari 
bit Dean and the Safari kashrut 

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Authority is also the deputy 
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president of the Council of 
Christians and Jews and an 

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ecclesiastical authority to the 
board of deputies of British 

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Jews. 
Robert Drake also serves as a 

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member of the standing committee
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rabbis. 
Right. 

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Direct is a sought after speaker
and teacher. 

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Teacher in the UK and abroad. 
His digital presence has Global 

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reach through virtual classes, 
social media, activities, a 

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mobile application, and podcast.
And of course he is, also the 

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founder of the Hub ra which I 
highly recommend to everybody 

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who's listening who hasn't heard
of it to definitely check it 

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out. 
Without further Ado, About 

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Joseph dweck, Thank you for 
joining the Judaism demystified 

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podcast one question. 
We really wanted to ask someone 

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like you is does the maimonides 
and path lack spirituality? 

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Hmm. 
Well, first of all, you know, 

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I'm very grateful to be able to 
have an opportunity to speak 

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with you both and to be on the 
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And so thank you very much for 
having me on, you know, the 

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question about it honestly. 
I kind of find the question. 

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Very interesting because I 
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me, that there should be such a 
question, you know, that does 

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the maimonides and, you know, 
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and so, on, black spirituality 
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involvement with it, there's no 
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Of course, the question, 
whenever somebody speaks about 

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spirituality is, what do you 
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So, I would challenge you to 
explain that a little bit more. 

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What do you mean by 
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Well, what I mean is what the 
common person would say is like 

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the roof new tablets. 
They like the cahsee dude has to

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offer, you know, they have they 
have Amor, let's just called 

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inspirational Judaism where 
there's there's a constant 

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there's a constant need for 
inspiration, number one and 

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keeping people engaged. 
So inspiration is built right? 

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That word is in spirit to write 
it is that one has Spirit within

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that's what inspiring me. 
And so I can get why it is that 

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you're saying that. 
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ality as being a kind of 
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In terms of the you know in 
terms of what it is that's being

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taught in the framework of 
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I mean I honestly for me the 
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inspirational teaching in my 
life is out on Bond and that is 

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because Adam Bomb teaches a life
positive year. 

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Full framework of what it is to 
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the world in Covenant with God. 
So if that is one's goal, right?

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In other words, if one wants to 
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Jewish person in Covenant with 
God, my opinion is that you 

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can't get better than her MBA 
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to be able to do that is to be 
able to know what you're doing. 

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Right to understand what what is
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What are we expecting? 
To do, how am I as an individual

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scene within that govern? 
How is how am I as a member of 

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Cloudy Israel seen in that 
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What do I relate to the 
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presented to me? 
And there is no one and I say 

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that, you know, with pause and 
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like her MBA who has treated the
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them, it's vote and its 
framework in consistent approach

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like he has and, you know, of 
course, yes, a person can study 

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through the entire tunnel mood 
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Tasha back table. 
That's a very great ordeal and 

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the talmud itself is a vast sea 
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right? 
The Mustang daughter called 

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mosquito because their weaves 
essentially of thought and Law 

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and and it's very specific way 
of presenting ideas. 

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But it's also it's also left 
open, right? 

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It's also left. 
Kind of you know open to 

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interpretation the reality is 
and I say this frankly How Time 

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Bomb is much less open to 
interpretation people can always

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put their projections onto 
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reading. 
But on bomb is a specific 

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approach in that. 
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is inspiring to me and indeed, 
spiritually, uplifting to me is 

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because if I'm living in this 
paradigm, My interest is to be 

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able to be the best that I can 
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endeavor. 
And how Time Bomb gives me tools

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for that like no one else. 
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the law is in any particular 
situation, I always look to him 

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as An Origin because there's no 
law that is in June the Corpus 

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of Jewish law that on bomb. 
Does not in some way treat. 

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I mean, obviously there's a lot 
of modern law that unbounded 

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know about nor speak about, but 
the source of it all the 

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principles. 
All this presented by him and is

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presented by him in very 
specific context in meaning and 

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therefore meaning and aarambam. 
Also, if you study the more than

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double cream you have a very 
strong sense of the 

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inspirational. 
Covenant and relationship that 

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we have with a kadosh Baruch who
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work in terms of developing that
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So it may be true that if people
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be a little bit, they may be 
lacking scholarship, a little 

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bit in terms of how Time Bomb 
you know what is they're looking

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for or they'll They may be 
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right, outside of what it is 
that I've just described, they 

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may be looking for just some 
kind of motivational pep talk or

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something in order to be able to
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Which I also find out of bombs 
works, you know, it's very rare 

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that the end of a set of 
Holocaust will not have an 

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inspirational and meaningful 
encouragement and framing of, of

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what it is that we're doing. 
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laws that are being presented. 
So, I don't I don't recognize 

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the question right to begin 
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And if there is a question for 
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One of two things, I would 
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what their goal is, Right? 
Meaning to be able to live in 

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full Covenant, with akos bottle 
who in Clarity of its framework 

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and our personal personal 
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what their goal is. 
I think everything is there. 

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And and if not then maybe 
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second is it just me? 
Scholarship. 

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Right? 
I mean how dumb bombs works are?

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They don't have pages of 
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In other words, you didn't right
here is a book of inspiration. 

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Yeah. 
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Kind of attempted to do in its 
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circumstances. 
Yeah, but you, if you read 

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through on a bomb and you have 
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written about, you know, 
approaching a relationship with 

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him and what's open to mankind. 
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shemitah. 
VO, Veil or you talk about you, 

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you listen to what he writes 
about Happiness and joy in life 

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at the end of a whole new love 
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writes about, the meaning of 
Mitzvah that the end of. 

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He'll hold Maryland. 
Also Tamara you need to you need

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to read it, you know, you need 
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it but it is in the study of his
of his whole work that one finds

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this. 
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of you know, A Treatise on 
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Yes one might be wanting, you 
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time, bomb puts things out but 
if one is consistent, Studies 

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the entire framework as he 
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In my opinion, there's nothing 
more inspiring and nothing more 

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profoundly moving. 
I've mentioned several times in 

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various, you know, kind of 
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talks that I've said, I mean, 
when I held a page of the Mirena

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Bohemian, my hand. 
When I visited Cambridge and the

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kinesia, they put this paper in 
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It was basically held in thin 
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They put this and I of course, 
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I didn't know what. 
It was, I thought maybe it was a

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letter or something, and I 
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that's a page from the motor in 
the movie, I started crying. 

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I was so deeply moved that. 
This man who had spent all of 

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this time to write for me, such 
wisdom, such guidance, such 

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profound. 
Truth to me Generations later 

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right now obviously, not to me 
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somebody might, you know, and of
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So I You know, I do, I'm not 
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question. 
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have to give it a little bit 
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it's not our view, but it's the 
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people is that there seems to be
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if there's a distance between 
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kabbalistic and Hasidic 
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The god of rambam because it's 
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unbridgeable gap too hard to get
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I think that if people study 
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recognize that. 
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relationship with a kadosh 
Baruch who has to do with our 

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commitment to the relationship 
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There is I don't want to get 
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nitty-gritty details of halacha 
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concept with regards to this if 
he wrote and how it is, they 

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Facing manifest in hushed. 
Aha, that there is a withdrawal 

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of spirit, right? 
There's it's called klat klat 

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bit lot, right? 
At the, the, which essentially 

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is a collage, but whose 
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touch kaha just recedes your own
based on the pursuit lawyer, 

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Guru Cara, right. 
That, that that evil cannot 

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touch you a color. 
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it's like, I don't know what 
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It talks about his Stephanie 
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I mean, what does that mean? 
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work in order to be able to 
build close relationship with a 

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kadosh Baruch. 
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default of briefed for every 
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He's right. 
But that's the default. 

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So of course I do you torture 
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lovers O, A kadosh Baruch who 
will not just forsake his people

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but that's the enter private 
Enterprise of Israel, right? 

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That is the corporate entity 
that is cloudless Ryan but you 

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and me is individuals, of 
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and an expectation that we build
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consider the fact that if the 
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right, the highest levels, there
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about our relationship would 
just be status quo, just be what

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is? 
So that's the case with every 

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relationship and what people 
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it's very difficult to get in 
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I gotta wash bottle and that's 
false It's just that on a bun 

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takes it very seriously, right? 
He talks about the relationship 

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as we would any meaningful and 
serious relationship of our 

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life. 
Right. 

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And that is expected. 
That's part of it. 

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We are meant to extrapolate the 
relationship dynamics that we 

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have with deep intimate loves 
the as we would with a kadosh 

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Baruch, right? 
That was how those relationships

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would run with us as we would 
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That's why She-Ra She-Ra him as 
rambam rights in the end of a 

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local tissue bhama. 
Shalu, lot of our Z, right? 

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relationship. 
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although she regime is a story 
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between a man and a woman. 
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serious and meaningful. 
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you know, I don't want to use 
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valuable but they are not. 
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Yeah, they are. 
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They're sophisticated and the 
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the relationship that we have 
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course, the more deep and 
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got those people who even 
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far off somewhere. 
Is there he's imminent, it's 

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there, he's waiting for us, he's
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He's interested in us being 
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rights in Hill. 
Hutou Shuba. 

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There is nothing that stands in 
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anything, even though the worst 
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option for us. 
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So, again, very inspiring, very 
moving very meaningful. 

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But her mom also does not. 
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relationship with God and end 
the Torah itself for that 

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matter. 
As a kind of an elementary minor

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negligible thing, it's very 
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It's a very real thing and in 
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someone everything matters more 
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a loving relationship with 
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morning. 
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You know, we have a co-worker 
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to you. 
All right? 

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At the end of this at the end, 
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unless, you know, you've got 
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General. 
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ruminate on it all. 
But if your wife, or your 

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husband, or your, or, or a deep 
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good morning to you, that's 
catastrophic. 

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It's catastrophic so things 
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So, you know, saw it so hard. 
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either responsibilities, they 
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So so, so I disagree that it's 
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As far as huh. 
Her about her mom gives us, he 

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writes constantly that are 
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available and interested and 
wanting. 

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He said, I am constantly, but he
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of the nature of the 
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Relationship requires 
commitment. 

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Dedication work. 
Yeah, beautiful. 

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if we were wondering. 
How would a maimana Dean 

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that we know of. 
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subscribe to the path of the 
rambam, it's more individualized

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to themselves. 
What would be? 

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How would, how would the 
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Realistically a maimonides in 
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Well, I mean, I guess that they 

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were probably, there are 
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really inherent in what it is, 
you're asking because there is a

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philosophical aspect and then 
there's a lock aspect right? 

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Not to divorce the two. 
I mean for how Timebomb, they're

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not divorced, right? 
The same, which again, is part 

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of the beauty of his old 
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modern normative Judaism today, 
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autumn bottom sealed. 
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and Torah, and so so much has 
happened since then, right? 

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So it's important. 
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things that happens is I was 
ashore on our rule. 

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He wrote his Honolulu and the 
show Haruka, was not a minor 

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wave in the world of Jewish law 
and practice, right? 

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So you know, one, your question 
would without saying it would 

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Kind of assumed that we would 
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I'm not saying we should do 
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I like what I park the show. 
Hannah rules take, take the 

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missionary to rise the 
predominant, you know, legal 

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challenges. 
Those are, those are, those are 

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not minor issues, right? 
Those were very, very, very 

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serious things. 
And I'm not even advocating for 

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that. 
I'm not necessarily saying that,

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that's what it is, we should do.
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process of history of the Jewish
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either. 
Right. 

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I mean, we have to take into 
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know, and the manifestations of 
These things and that's, that's 

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obviously its theological. 
It's been esoteric. 

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I get that. 
I'm, you know, I'm putting out 

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forth and there are many, many, 
many people that would disagree 

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with me, many significant 
Scholars Rock. 

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I mean, that would disagree with
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would call me off my rocker for 
saying that. 

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But what I'm saying is that, the
historical developments of the 

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Jewish people are not 
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The fact that bitterness have 
Caro, his work came To be within

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us as it did not saying that 
there aren't issues kind of that

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we struggle with sometimes, but 
it is what it is. 

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It's there. 
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Advocate kind of disregarding 
that hospital, you know, not 

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only that but what, you know, in
my opinion would be a tremendous

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lack of covered. 
Covered Haka mean any harm? 

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Our on, think about a man. 
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desk with a can Duel at night 
and a quill in his hand, Euro 

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writing the bitch or say, you 
know, for that work alone, you 

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know, takes a bit of, you know, 
reverence and and deference for 

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that matter to him. 
So we're not practically in a 

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situation and I will say on the 
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important is that How do I frame
them without getting too long 

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with it? 
Remember, That the Bedrock 

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Covenant with the Jewish people 
is the Covenant of Abraham 

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abena. 
It's worth everything is built 

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upon everything every 
subsequent, breathe, every law. 

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Everything is built on the Breda
Brahma Bean, and the breed of 

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Abraham urbino is not with 
Ibraham and his student. 

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I cannot stress that enough. 
It is not with Ibraham in his 

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students as with Abraham and his
children, it with his family. 

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And that means that if there is 
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people of the of army Israel. 
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And that means that to some 
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We must recognize that being 
part of the people as they are. 

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Is in and of itself a value 
right now. 

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That's not to say that if we see
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right? 
Or we see the collective is 

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going on a path that isn't 
necessarily righteous or 

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appropriate. 
That we shouldn't say something 

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do something, fight it, you 
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there's no, there's no lacking 
of that in Jewish history, you 

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know? 
I mean, how do guys that for all

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intents and purposes, you know, 
we literally celebrate that 

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Annika, but Still being part of 
the cloud is not a minor value. 

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And the cloud has accepted 
certain things, right? 

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And even on bomb, recognizes 
that there is a certain value to

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the Kabbalah Tara beam. 
Right? 

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What it is, that the role of a 
row of Israel? 

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Right? 
How is it? 

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We have, we have approached 
things, so I'll give an example 

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of this. 
You know, he in the mission in 

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torrevieja rambam, rarely ever 
write anything that Not his 

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understanding of the established
law of the talmud like that. 

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That's not a natural. 
That's what did you put some 

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English? 
Etc. 

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And interesting of all laws and 
who fought for America, right? 

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Which I said is a is a is a more
add that recognizes the fight of

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one group of Jews against other 
group of Jews in the Vindication

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of the group of Jews that are 
fighting for Torah, you know, 

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over those that wanted to leave 
the room. 

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So he writes how it is that 
we're supposed to do the 

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lighting of the narrowed, right 
on how to log on his he presents

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his understanding. 
Of the sugiyama adrene and 

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hundred mean, I'm Adrian. 
Right? 

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The ones who beautify them is 
about do this. 

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And once we beautified further, 
do this, and he gives his whole 

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analysis of the Segura, how it's
supposed to be practically 

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understood and then at the end 
of that, he says, however Mina 

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had before Laredos feraud, he 
says, however, the actual 

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practice in all of our cities, 
Inspiron is not like, I'm 

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writing is like this, and he 
puts it into the machine, a 

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Surah, he concludes that. 
Was this you can argue and say, 

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yeah but you're hot on bomb, you
understand that? 

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So guys, this that's the demon 
truth and that's how it should 

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be forget about them in hug, why
doesn't he come back them in a 

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hug and said, hey, I got, this 
is what we do, right? 

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This is what everybody doesn't. 
There's value to the fact that 

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the collective has decided that 
this is what it is that we're 

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doing. 
And then there's certain things 

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that, you know, we we wait for 
history to be able to determine,

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but think about the Jewish 
people as well. 

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The Jewish people are the most 
most individualistically minded 

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people, right? 
We we don't take things easy. 

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Easily. 
We don't do things in unison. 

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Well it's a challenge for us, 
you know, it's like the old joke

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about to the two shoes, you 
know? 

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And so on and so forth, you 
know, you've got one guy in a 

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desert island. 
There's a sure that he goes to 

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another shoulder. 
He doesn't go to the to find 

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given that, that kind of, you 
know, tongue-in-cheek reality 

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things that have spread across 
the Jewish World in practice and

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accepted in unison. 
Is again, I'm suggesting is not 

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minor. 
I'm not saying that it should be

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hungry Louisville removal but 
it's not minor. 

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So I wouldn't necessarily 
Advocate creating a community 

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that is solely and completely 
based on the missionary Torah, 

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rambam lived, when he lived and 
there's been development in the 

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People since and we have to 
recognize when I can erase, you 

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know, hundreds of years of 
History post on Mom just to be 

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able to to establish that. 
And that's not to say that. 

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I don't I don't certainly 
Advocate recognize, I don't, 

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nobody needs me to do that. 
Iíve certainly not the guy doing

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that. 
I mean how how come over? 

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Yeah. 
You'll save in his introduction 

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to the shallow to toward 
parador, which are true. 

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Both of our MBA, which was put 
out by his son. 

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Whom the video said, haha, Baba 
Yaga writes that if there is a 

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tissue bother, we find of her 
MBA that goes against the sack 

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of the Shahrukh. 
We go like the tissue around 

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bomb over the passage on aruch. 
Because if we could say that if 

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Moran saw the trevorrow Bobby 
people sick like the tissue 

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Baba. 
So there's no question that even

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with the shot, I will grab a 
very major. 

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It's a major 80% of your honor 
has just the words of a number. 

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So look, I mean, you know, there
are adjustments that happen 

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there. 
There are elements that on bomb 

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was Passaic in his understanding
of the Sue. 

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Guilt of the talmud that in 
general. 

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We don't, we don't do we follow 
rather how it is that, they're 

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trying to rule established it 
and and I say that to be part of

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Cloudy Israel and to practice as
the majority of the cloud are 

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practicing, unless it's 
something that is my mush mush. 

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Absolutely, you know, wrong and 
against how it is, if there's no

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possible way to understand the 
taboo that way, which is usually

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not the case. 
We shouldn't forsake that we 

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shouldn't forsake that easily. 
Yeah, I'm not saying should 

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never be done, but we shouldn't 
easily Forsaken, and I think 

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that the Creator a community 
that is solely. 

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Practicing, her mom is not 
necessarily the best thing to do

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again. 
I say that knowing that there 

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are many rambam necks out there,
that think I should be burned in

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effigy for saying that but 
nonetheless, that is my private 

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opinion. 
However, I would say that, then 

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in general, the philosophical 
approach of rambam to Dora and 

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Tim, it's voted to the again I 
use the word framework of 

446
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,200
Jewish. 
Practice, and thought, as the 

447
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,200
framework should be advocated 
and that should be done. 

448
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,700
When I do think that it's 
happening, you know, it's 

449
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:26,700
happening in various places. 
That's one of the reasons why 

450
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:28,000
I'm very proud of the humble 
Rock. 

451
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:30,100
I mean, you know, one of the 
reasons we started the humble 

452
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:34,200
Rao is because we wanted to be 
able to put the thought out, 

453
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,000
right? 
To be able to have a framework 

454
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,000
of thought to be able to 
understand their approach to the

455
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,500
burrito kadosh Baruch hu to 
being part of cloud. 

456
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:47,700
He's right that I think is zero.
No, the I use the analogy of the

457
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:51,500
volume has been turned down on 
it for a very long time and I 

458
00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:54,500
want to turn the volume up on 
that and be able to give that, 

459
00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:57,000
you know, opportunity for people
to be able to kind of be part of

460
00:25:57,008 --> 00:26:00,300
that thought world, right? 
That frame of thought. 

461
00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:02,900
If that if that I hope that 
answers and stare and it's 

462
00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:06,100
actually Iranians I think it's a
great answer and I think really 

463
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:08,700
when we talk about a community 
we're not really talk. 

464
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:14,100
I wasn't at least talking about 
instituting the halacha of the 

465
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:17,400
rambam because even Our on, you 
know, mentions that if you're a 

466
00:26:17,408 --> 00:26:19,500
community that follows our 
album, you shouldn't you 

467
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:23,000
shouldn't stop yet. 
So so it's not really about 

468
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,900
that. 
It's really about the 

469
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,900
philosophy. 
It's really about the Outlook 

470
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,900
because fine today that there 
are communities that adopt a lot

471
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:36,300
of let's say practices that are 
kind of shaky or a little bit 

472
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:41,100
superstitious not from the 
classical tradition. 

473
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,700
So yeah that's really where I 
want to understand. 

474
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:47,900
How do we we kind of because it 
feels like almost he was 

475
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,400
alluding to Bentley. 
Was alluding to is that there is

476
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,200
kind of like a hesitant 
hesitation because people feel 

477
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,000
like you know by by introducing 
my monody in like philosophy 

478
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,600
living your kind of attacking 
you know, the traditional 

479
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,400
modern. 
Yeah. 

480
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,000
So now I honestly as far as 
that's concerned, I have to say,

481
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,200
look to Guru me finish, right? 
You can't be afraid. 

482
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:15,200
You have to, you have to 
recognize that and that's one of

483
00:27:15,208 --> 00:27:16,800
the Reasons. 
Also, I love reading on a bomb 

484
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,100
bomb, bomb wasn't afraid bottom 
set it, like it was, he didn't 

485
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,700
care, you know, he was straight 
out. 

486
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:27,800
So first of all, I think the 
self-consciousness that you are 

487
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,100
describing, right about how it 
is that people will respond the 

488
00:27:31,108 --> 00:27:36,900
way that people that is, is 
helped by greater learning. 

489
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,800
Right? 
So the more that one, learns and

490
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
understands that this is this is
the way that things should be 

491
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,200
and why? 
It has drawn reinforcement for 

492
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,400
it, you can't see another way. 
I mean, you can't even allow 

493
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,100
yourself to really be able to 
engage in. 

494
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,900
And not only do not you 
recognize how serious it is. 

495
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:59,400
To do an alternative right to 
behave in the alternative and 

496
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,200
how much it shouldn't be done 
right now or, you know, and 

497
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,700
that's truth. 
And so what we need, first of 

498
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,100
all, is a lot of a lot more 
learning. 

499
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,500
Which again I don't mean to plug
it but I'm grateful and proud of

500
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,500
the hubba-wha that it's their 
right and that people use it. 

501
00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:16,400
It and that it's that it's 
available and it does provide a 

502
00:28:16,408 --> 00:28:20,400
good framework, but you also 
need to consider who it is that 

503
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,300
you're hiring or who it is that 
you're asking Fleet, right? 

504
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:28,600
So, so it requires leadership 
and requires strong leadership 

505
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,700
and, and brave and courageous 
leadership. 

506
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,700
But it also has to come that 
bravery and courage has to come 

507
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:40,100
from very well. 
Rooted strong old principles and

508
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,800
that's one of the things that we
do with the Harbour. 

509
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,100
We point to the sources. 
It's not just, oh, this is, you 

510
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,100
know, one some idea where we 
want to be rational. 

511
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,000
We ought to be rational rational
is overrated. 

512
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,900
Obviously, I'll tell you, it's 
not about rationality because 

513
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:55,000
rationale is he fails in many 
areas? 

514
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,600
It just doesn't want, you know, 
there's certain things that 

515
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,700
rationality doesn't function for
in the world but it's not about 

516
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,400
that. 
It's about what is our dentist? 

517
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:07,300
What is our way in Toronto? 
And our way is old. 

518
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:10,600
It is old. 
It is, it is populated by some 

519
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,300
of the greatest hakama mold time
and it Something we should be 

520
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,600
proud of not afraid of 
something. 

521
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,500
We should be proud of. 
We should know, is well-founded 

522
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,900
it's not new, it's not some new 
way of ideas that were coming 

523
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:23,100
in. 
Putting out, because we want to 

524
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,200
be modern, has nothing to do 
with that. 

525
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:30,500
It's old, it's well-established,
populated by great, great minds 

526
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,700
and very courageous leaders. 
And we are simply part of that 

527
00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:35,500
tradition. 
And we're forwarding a 

528
00:29:35,508 --> 00:29:37,000
traditional one has to be proud 
of that. 

529
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,700
And if one is not proud of it, 
one is self-conscious about it. 

530
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:42,400
Well, then they're not ready. 
You're not ready and they need 

531
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,600
to learn more, right? 
So how do you feel about, you 

532
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,700
know what, people? 
Some people say about the Derek 

533
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:52,800
of our embalmer, we see there 
are some pockets of my monody 

534
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,800
and kind of communities. 
Where people say, you know, it's

535
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,300
very it seems kind of elitist or
like Ivory Tower Judaism, where 

536
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,700
it's not, it's not kiru oriented
and so on. 

537
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:08,700
You know, do you ever hear those
kind of arguments? 

538
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,200
I do hear those kinds of 
arguments. 

539
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:18,900
And you find them to be. 
I find them to be ill placed. 

540
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,100
Okay, great. 
I find them to be ill placed 

541
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,200
because first of all, I don't 
know, you know, key roof? 

542
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,600
I don't know, I'm not a cure of 
person. 

543
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:32,300
I mean, Baruch Hashem, I'm 
grateful that I've had this a 

544
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:35,500
hoot to to bring people closer 
to Toronto to vote. 

545
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,200
I mean, that I'm not afraid to 
say I'm grateful that that's 

546
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,300
been part of my life and please 
God, I, you know, I hope to be 

547
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:48,600
able to do that in my life. 
So whether You know, there's a, 

548
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,100
the country live, you know, 
people to bring people closer. 

549
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,600
I don't know who's not, who she,
why should we not do that? 

550
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,600
To me, is part of its part of 
the whole thing. 

551
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,900
The Cure of movement, I'm not. 
I mean, I'm familiar with, but 

552
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:05,000
it's not my, it's not my, it's 
not in my circle, I'm not 

553
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,900
educated in that movement and 
Norm. 

554
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,700
I trained in that movement and 
it's not, it's just not my, I'm 

555
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:13,900
not, I'm not familiar with it. 
In terms of my own practice in 

556
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:15,900
my own, my own way. 
I mean II. 

557
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,400
So that's all. 
I'll say about that. 

558
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,800
I so I don't want to speak about
something that I'm not you know 

559
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:25,500
personally aware of and properly
educated him but to say that 

560
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:30,400
Harem bombs approach is not 
opened and to keep you know to 

561
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,400
Bringing people closed I think 
that's also a it's either a 

562
00:31:33,408 --> 00:31:37,700
failure in scholarship and and 
literacy and hot on bombs 

563
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:43,200
writings or it is maybe an 
elitist reading of Autobahn. 

564
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:47,900
It is true that harm bomb does 
hold a A high bar, right? 

565
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,100
In other words, that there are 
various levels that a person can

566
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:54,600
achieve. 
It does her mom does right that?

567
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:58,300
Yeah, I mean that there's but 
again, those levels are valuable

568
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:01,200
and important because if we just
expect that no matter what we 

569
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,300
do, we are at the same space 
With God all the time, it also 

570
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,600
cheapens the relationship that 
we have with God the Pete that's

571
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,500
a that's part that's something 
that people don't take into 

572
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,200
consideration. 
There's another side of that 

573
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,900
coin. 
Yeah. 

574
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:20,300
And You know. 
So, so I think that there are 

575
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:24,400
many, many entry points to 
approaching uncle those 

576
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,300
powerful. 
And her mom talks about 

577
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:30,500
dedicated to Shiva right there 
are Pathways to tissue back and 

578
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:32,800
he says there are many Pathways 
and he'll write me directly at 

579
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,000
issue among the pathways of 
tissue bar this and among the 

580
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000
pathways are of tissue by this. 
He writes in more than one other

581
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,600
places other than him called 
tissue box. 

582
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,700
You know, he says this is me 
Dirk at issue, Bahu, right? 

583
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:46,100
This is something that we do as 
a way of getting close. 

584
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:48,100
It goes from. 
So he writes that many things 

585
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:50,900
that were supposed to do should 
do could do in order to be able 

586
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,900
to engage with other. 
I mean, there's a yeah, I mean, 

587
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:57,100
so there's a hunter Bond made 
made concessions as well. 

588
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Yeah, I mean, he he, he writes 
in the machine in Toda that we 

589
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,800
have to do the Hazara, right. 
And I'm Eda, and he writes in 

590
00:33:03,808 --> 00:33:05,600
the tissue by that. 
They didn't do the hospital 

591
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,000
because nobody was answering a 
man. 

592
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,200
And so he took that out, right? 
Because not covered ice, talk 

593
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600
about the colors, but we will do
that, right? 

594
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,100
Okay. 
Let's could you imagine, you 

595
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,300
know, I mean, Ian today that's 
been doing how they're all the 

596
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:19,100
time and all of a sudden said, 
you know, something people are 

597
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:26,300
entering, what is that? 
You know, I could imagine all 

598
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:30,800
kinds of, you know, drama and 
and political upheaval happening

599
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,200
as a result of social. 
So, you know, again, it's it may

600
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,900
not be what it is, that people 
are In the used to. 

601
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:44,200
But I don't think that it's true
that on bomb is not that in 

602
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,800
studying his his his 
presentation of Torah to us that

603
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,900
there is there some kind of law 
you know Ivory Tower in which 

604
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:55,300
the total has held that you 
know, only the select few are 

605
00:33:55,300 --> 00:34:00,300
able to achieve that's just 
patently false Well said I'll 

606
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:02,100
say one thing. 
I will say another thing, you 

607
00:34:02,108 --> 00:34:07,800
know, in this photo ID in this 
photo ID certainly at least the 

608
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,800
Middle Easterns for the mini hug
there. 

609
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,100
Is it when we take this 
Hypnotoad, I out of the house on

610
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:16,900
there. 
We have the Romani in which are 

611
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:19,400
the bells, right? 
The silver, you know, the silver

612
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,199
and we usually will give that to
a child. 

613
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,800
A lot of times give that to a 
child to be able to Crown this 

614
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,500
effort aura. 
And and there's a rulers like an

615
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:33,699
unspoken rule, right? 
That the person who's holding 

616
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:37,900
the sephiroth Torah is not 
allowed to lower their say, fair

617
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:40,699
to the child, so the child could
put their ammonium on the 

618
00:34:40,707 --> 00:34:43,100
cirfairy. 
You have to lift the child up to

619
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:46,100
the surface so that they can put
the ceremony when the Torah. 

620
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000
And that is an analogy in 
general, right? 

621
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,000
We don't lower the breed. 
We don't lower the Torah to 

622
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,900
somebody who's not yet able to 
reach it. 

623
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Either lift them up right we 
give them boosts right and give 

624
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,900
them. 
Give them steps tools to be able

625
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:04,500
to get there or we wait till 
they grow to the point that 

626
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,000
they're able to do it but we 
don't lower it in order to be 

627
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,900
able to get to the people. 
And that's a very important 

628
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:13,000
principle that people forget. 
And sometimes I'm concerned that

629
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,700
people do that in their 
eagerness to be able to give 

630
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:18,600
people connection. 
They lower these bars right? 

631
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,600
They lower the values in order 
to be able to have have access 

632
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,800
rather than assisting, an 
escorting towards the The higher

633
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,100
level that people can get to and
we don't want to do that. 

634
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:31,400
We don't want to cheapen it that
way. 

635
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:37,400
Excellent point we want to also,
ask and this question is 

636
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:41,500
targeted more for teenagers when
we're going to ask this 

637
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:47,500
question. 
For teenagers today that are 

638
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,900
surrounded. 
I would say maybe with you no 

639
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:56,300
wool culture that focuses on the
individual Miiverse. 

640
00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:09,000
We, you know, there's How do we?
Properly present Torah to 

641
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000
teenagers that are accustomed 
and being trained. 

642
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,400
And kind of kind of being 
surrounded with this very 

643
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,900
Miiverse, we individualistic, 
you know, kind of society that 

644
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:24,600
that's that's that's surrounding
them. 

645
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,100
How do we how do we, how do we 
go about that? 

646
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:31,900
Right. 
So, I mean, as I understand your

647
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:34,800
question, you know, there is an 
assumption in your question. 

648
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,300
If I understand you correctly. 
And that is that the me is 

649
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:42,800
problematic. 
And I reject that, I don't think

650
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,300
that the me is that all 
problematic. 

651
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:47,400
The only time that the me is 
problematic is when the me is 

652
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,700
void of recognizing that the 
nature of an individual. 

653
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,300
Certainly a human individual is 
by definition socialistic, 

654
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:55,700
right. 
In other words, it is a socially

655
00:36:55,700 --> 00:37:02,200
inclined existence. 
So the best line for this the 

656
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,700
most pithy succinct clear line 
for this as healer as I can. 

657
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,300
And it's one of honestly it's 
one of my favorite lines. 

658
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:13,300
In Fazal which is, you know, 
that's just me. 

659
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,600
And he lived as a kid was was 
one who spoke about this in 

660
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,700
various ways, right? 
This was very much something 

661
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:24,700
that he'll has a kin held and 
that is that he said very 

662
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,600
famously to the point that it's 
almost cliche but it should 

663
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,300
never get to be that because 
it's much deeper and profound. 

664
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:33,800
People may give it credit for 
and and that is he in a melee 

665
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,900
melee, right? 
If I am not going to be for me, 

666
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:40,600
which means if I'm not going to 
live my life, Life. 

667
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,600
If I'm not going to take care of
me, if I'm not going to be me as

668
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,500
I am, then who will. 
And what he's saying? 

669
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,300
Is that nobody will write, it's 
just will not happen. 

670
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,700
And if we disregard that we are 
disregarding a fundamental 

671
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:59,200
principle in table right next 
week in parishad kadosh. 

672
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,600
When we know how I won't get to 
see. 

673
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:04,100
We're going to read the very 
famous pursue have started akka.

674
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,500
Come Oka. 
And the end of it. 

675
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:11,100
And that's really it's a, it's 
an odd passuk because if the, if

676
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,500
the Torah wanted to Simply tell 
us to love others than it should

677
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:18,300
have simply said that I have 
done a NASA and he a shit. 

678
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,600
No, the referent is komaki. 
You have to love others as you 

679
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,200
love you. 
Which is expecting that there is

680
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,400
this value of loving oneself, 
right? 

681
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,000
And then / kappahd, second 
paragraph, people are reading 

682
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,100
per cow but now between Pairs 
are and show what we're likely 

683
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:37,000
in the second period, right? 
There's two things. 

684
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,700
And yeah mum on, Hover ha ha V 
Valeo. 

685
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,400
It's always the Reverend, the 
Reverend is always the cell and 

686
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400
there is always an expectation 
that there is going to be a love

687
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,200
of self and if one does not have
a love of self and I and what I 

688
00:38:55,207 --> 00:38:59,200
mean by that is the genuine self
that one is that a kadosh Baruch

689
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,800
created you to be, which is 
unique Right now goes, well, who

690
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,500
didn't create cookie cutter 
people? 

691
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,300
Because those one, who created 
absolutely Unique Individuals 

692
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:11,300
and that is part of the 
expression of the who the Beret,

693
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
right? 
The fact that a shame is it had 

694
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:18,100
his Creations. 
The one ubiquitous stamp on 

695
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:21,100
creation is the unique 
individuality of creation. 

696
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:24,100
You don't have to leaves on a 
tree not to snowflakes, not 

697
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:28,500
fingerprints, all of that right 
we see identical twins and we 

698
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:31,500
freaked out because we can't 
imagine that there's two people.

699
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,900
That look the same. 
It's impossible for us to 

700
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:37,900
absorb. 
So the fact that the modern 

701
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:45,200
culture is moving into a very 
heavy, me identity is not a is 

702
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:51,900
not a necessarily necessarily - 
it is a very important 

703
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:57,200
development because in Western 
Society we went from being a 

704
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,000
very very rigid communal system,
right? 

705
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,800
I encourage people to read And 
Erich fromm's, book Escape from 

706
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,500
freedom in the u.s. called 
escape from freedom. 

707
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:14,700
In the in the UK is called fear 
free and where he developed, he 

708
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,300
shows the development of Western
Society, from a very Collective 

709
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:20,100
kind of society where everybody 
had their place within the 

710
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,900
society and everybody knew 
their, their, their connection 

711
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:26,400
to the broader fabric of society
into a very individualistic 

712
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400
capitalistic move. 
Now, the truth of the matter is,

713
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,700
is that I quoted only one half 
of he Statement. 

714
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:36,600
All right, the second half of he
little statement is Akshay 

715
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,600
neela. 
It's me money. 

716
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,500
And then, I didn't say 
shannaenealy, right exemption, 

717
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:46,500
he lets me when I am only for 
myself, right? 

718
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,300
When I am by myself. 
Well, then what am I right? 

719
00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:55,000
I'm feeling to recognize that I 
as an individual exist in in 

720
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000
intricate connection with the 
rest of society. 

721
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,600
So there are various aspects of 
self and one of the aspects of 

722
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,900
Elf is in Torah, right? 
And this is wonderful show of 

723
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:08,600
the balance of torahs 
recognition of the individual 

724
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,100
within the collective and one 
should not shift for the other. 

725
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,100
Yeah, it's like you know the 
whole of shovel with everybody, 

726
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,900
call everybody agrees, there's a
whole discussion, the gemara, 

727
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:22,300
what it, how do you celebrate, 
how do you spend the day of 

728
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,100
Shavuot? 
And, you know, some say, a cool,

729
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:27,100
a shame Corolla so on and so 
forth. 

730
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,700
And everybody agrees that on 
Shavuot you need to have left 

731
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:35,400
him You have you need to have 
you time right on someone the 

732
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,300
whole goes together, I'm gonna 
get into it right now, you can 

733
00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:40,200
look it up but that's that's a 
major issue. 

734
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:45,000
It says that when the Haka meme 
would complete, a sugiyama s 

735
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,100
also be a time of circuit or 
they would complete their 

736
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:50,100
learning. 
They would have celebrations on 

737
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,800
for themselves rights as a POC, 
had enough sure he would say, 

738
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,700
right? 
He would say oh I'm so happy, 

739
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:58,700
you're people say that. 
I've completed my study goes, if

740
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:01,500
it wasn't for my study, come on 
your sake up. 

741
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:05,100
You got how many Jose are there?
Is Average Joes are there out in

742
00:42:05,107 --> 00:42:07,200
the street. 
Yeah, so there's these 

743
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,800
celebrations of individuality 
that are kadosh Baruch hu 

744
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,600
imprinted in all of us that we 
must actualize and for a very 

745
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,400
long time, in Western society, 
and it still goes in eastern 

746
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Society, right? 
But for a very long time, in 

747
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Western Society, the individual 
was erased to a very high 

748
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,000
degree. 
So, of course, any time the 

749
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,500
individual raises his or her 
head, there is an accusation. 

750
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,600
Ation of selfishness because 
people don't necessarily know 

751
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,200
how to be themselves and not be 
selfish, right? 

752
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,900
So that's the difficult Edge, 
right? 

753
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:46,900
And the reality is that if a 
person is working on achieving 

754
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:49,600
oneself, sometimes your needs to
be private time for that. 

755
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,300
And sometimes they need to be 
able to pull away from the clown

756
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:56,000
in order to be able to search. 
Now, that's why he put the 

757
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,100
duties of thing, right? 
The casino as he do, brought 

758
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:00,800
that Barack Obama, it's the same
thing. 

759
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,400
On a bottom rights in the marina
bull cream that there is a 

760
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,500
precious, he called its money 
Mia. 

761
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:10,200
Caribe, the most precious times 
are the times when you're alone.

762
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,100
And you can just consider your 
life. 

763
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,500
Your thought will you are, what 
are your struggles? 

764
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:22,300
And that's so I think that in 
society, especially with the 

765
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,700
younger generation, we're seeing
a pendulum swing. 

766
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,800
And yes, the pendulum is 
swinging to an extreme. 

767
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,400
There's no question about it but
again, how Time Bomb writes that

768
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,500
as well and hold their own 
sometimes, in order to be able 

769
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:36,200
to find balance in the middle, 
we moved to the extremes before 

770
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,500
were able to calibrate it and 
everybody hates it right there. 

771
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:40,400
Looking at it because the older 
generation is like we were 

772
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,900
Selfless, we gave ourselves we 
Supply. 

773
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:45,300
We put until we were all part of
communities. 

774
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:47,400
We are part of The Sisterhood. 
We are part of God's creation, 

775
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,900
what? 
Yeah, you're right. 

776
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:50,900
Those are wonderful things and 
they should continue. 

777
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,700
But right now, we're looking at 
the he'd put the dude, right? 

778
00:43:54,700 --> 00:44:00,400
There's a lot of that going on 
and it's true that the society 

779
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,100
can't run. 
If everybody's going to be 

780
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:04,900
spending a bunch of time, on 
their own, you know, doing their

781
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:07,500
own thing, and the Pendulum will
swing back, because not 

782
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,200
sustainable. 
It's just not sustainable, but 

783
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,600
II don't think it's evil. 
He's other words it gets to a 

784
00:44:13,607 --> 00:44:17,300
very bad place and the truth of 
the matter is the source of evil

785
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:22,800
is in isolation, right in not 
sensing empathy and Care in the 

786
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,000
need to be able to support and 
embrace those around us in love 

787
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,900
and compassion and societal 
building. 

788
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,500
Make no mistake. 
I don't want anybody to think 

789
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:34,500
that I'm not recognizing those 
values. 

790
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:37,500
What we need to do is we need to
hear the teaching of he'll as a 

791
00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:40,900
king. 
And the first is very clear him 

792
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:45,800
in a melee melee, if I do not 
achieve who it is, that I am and

793
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,800
I do not fight for my own 
individual life and existence, 

794
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,800
as I am uniquely as a kadosh 
Baruch who created me, then 

795
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,600
really ain't nobody gonna do 
that, nobody has the ability to 

796
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,200
do that because you cannot 
control other people, right? 

797
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,600
We are we have a hard enough 
time trying to control ourselves

798
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:07,400
and that's ultimately a major 
goal and on the back of that. 

799
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,000
Okay, I need to answer me. 
Money. 

800
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:12,300
But if I don't recognize and I'm
a social animal those about who 

801
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:16,000
created me with in a fabric of 
society and I need to learn how 

802
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,100
it is that I contribute of 
myself, my unique self to that 

803
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:24,300
Society I don't exist and they 
will find that they yearn for 

804
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:27,500
that connection, right? 
So so they will have all kinds 

805
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:31,600
of connections that work for 
them on a superficial level. 

806
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,000
But at the end of the day, 
there's nothing that replaces 

807
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:39,000
genuine real human connection 
and that that will then We need 

808
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,500
certain things to happen. 
We need people to be able to 

809
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,600
compromise aspects of their 
self, in order to be able to do 

810
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,700
that. 
And people are fighting so hard 

811
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:50,300
to have themselves right now, 
that they're not yet ready to be

812
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,900
able to compromise. 
So, to answer your question, 

813
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:57,100
after all of that, I would 
certainly speak to them about 

814
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,700
the value of self and Torah 
because that speaking their 

815
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:03,300
language and if you can speak 
the first half of helium, has a 

816
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:06,400
kid into them, you can then 
speak the second half of him as 

817
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,200
a kid too, but if you don't 
Recognize the reality and truth 

818
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,800
of the first half. 
You will not be able to get in 

819
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,700
because that's what they're 
focusing on right now. 

820
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:19,600
Right there, meditating on the 
Main and mealy mealy, and that's

821
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,200
perhaps the motto of the 
generation. 

822
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,800
So if you can't expound upon 
that, from a Torah perspective, 

823
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:28,700
the chenille Ox Mema and he will
never get a seat at the table. 

824
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,800
That's how I would suggest very,
very well said. 

825
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:35,800
And the last point, I want to 
get into is the Hub Aurora 

826
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,100
because to us, it's such a 
valuable tool. 

827
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:42,000
I want to know. 
We want to know what it is. 

828
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,700
That inspired you to start such 
a movement, why was it 

829
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:46,900
necessary? 
And also, where do you see it 

830
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:49,000
in, you know, five ten years? 
What is your goal? 

831
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,100
Well, I certainly cannot take 
all the credit for it because it

832
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:54,700
wasn't mine. 
If it was left up to me would 

833
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,800
never happen. 
I've always, I mean, over the 

834
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:03,000
years my students have Me, what 
do we read? 

835
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:06,600
What do we learn in order to be 
able to get the perspective that

836
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,300
you have robbed, right? 
They would ask me, like, well 

837
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:10,700
how do we, how do we, why do you
have to just read? 

838
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,200
There's a lot to read and lots 
of know, a lot to, you know, 

839
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:20,200
there's a lot of things and we 
disagree that and during covid 

840
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:29,000
my dear friend and tamid Sinha 
kind, Said, you know, we could 

841
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,900
do this. 
This is way we can do it. 

842
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,200
And yeah, I mean, it was just 
the right time because during 

843
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,600
covid everybody was online and I
tried to do things online before

844
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,300
covid. 
I wanted to very very much do 

845
00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:44,300
them before but just people 
didn't even know what Zoom was. 

846
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:46,200
You know? 
They they no idea you know had a

847
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,700
kind of and if they did they you
know it wasn't something that 

848
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:51,200
was easy. 
So we took advantage of that and

849
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:56,600
so I was kind of able to provide
the framework for it and the you

850
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,200
know, the curriculum for It and 
kind of what is it wanted to 

851
00:47:59,207 --> 00:48:03,900
teach and Cinna, just amazingly 
as he is, you know, in all that 

852
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:07,000
he does just amazingly 
facilitated your to me just he's

853
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:09,000
he's blessed with that 
tremendously. 

854
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,500
So I'm very grateful to him for 
that. 

855
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,200
What ended up happening is 
result. 

856
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,700
So the goal you know was to be 
able to put out this teaching 

857
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:23,700
and have people you know, have 
an ability to learn but what 

858
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:28,200
ended up happening to my great 
delight and surprise is that it 

859
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,100
ended up creating a virtual 
community. 

860
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:33,300
All right, so thankfully we're 
in 26 countries. 

861
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:37,100
Now the Cobra and when I go 
around and I and I speak and I 

862
00:48:37,107 --> 00:48:41,600
was just recently in Great Neck 
and I met you guys and I was in 

863
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,600
New York, I was in Chicago. 
I was recently in Seattle in La.

864
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,900
I'm going back to Mexico City in
May thankfully everywhere I go 

865
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:50,700
people come up to me and say 
they're members of the Hubble 

866
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:54,600
Rock. 
And what it has done is created 

867
00:48:54,600 --> 00:49:02,200
a virtual community of people 
who who, who are are drawn to 

868
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,900
who feel at home in this 
approach to Torah which I've 

869
00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:07,800
said already. 
This is very old. 

870
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,700
You know, we're doing it in a 
very new and modern way but it's

871
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,200
Only very old and it's very 
authentic. 

872
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,400
So that has been a delight, you 
know, I'm so glad and grateful 

873
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,000
that there is, you know, I when 
I was growing up and when I was 

874
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,100
going through my learning, I 
felt very alone. 

875
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:28,400
You know, with regards to it was
very it was a handful of people 

876
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,400
that I knew were like-minded and
that was it. 

877
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:34,300
But this is giving it an. 
It's facilitated people that 

878
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:37,500
otherwise were isolated to 
really connect with each other 

879
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,200
and feel that they are part of a
greater community and that gives

880
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,700
energy Gee, you know, if nothing
else, it gives energy, you know,

881
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:49,600
to people, and it gives a 
central element of it that, you 

882
00:49:49,607 --> 00:49:52,700
know, I think it's helpful and 
five years I have no idea. 

883
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:54,800
I'm always hesitant when people 
ask me what I think is going to 

884
00:49:54,808 --> 00:49:57,800
be in five years, because I'm 
going to be 48 years old, which 

885
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,000
is not 80 years old, but I've 
lived enough five year Cycles. 

886
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,900
My life to know that five years 
A lot can happen in five years. 

887
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So I have no idea what will be 
in five years. 

888
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What do I hope also? 
I'm afraid to dream too small. 

889
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I don't want to, I don't want to
do that either. 

890
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But, you know, I do hope that 
it'll grow that will be able to 

891
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have perhaps, you know, centers.
You know, visits the online 

892
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thing is great but I hope 
they'll be physical centers 

893
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because like I said, the 
physical connections between 

894
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people is very valuable, we're 
going to be opening here, a bit 

895
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,900
me, Josh in London, there's 
another shame in the 

896
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not-too-distant future for the 
camera and the S&P. 

897
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So I'm very excited about that 
but I just you know whom Allah 

898
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has seen the goal is to You 
know, to be able to allow to 

899
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facilitate people to be able to 
do a kadosh Baruch who as much 

900
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as they can. 
And if we can help with that, 

901
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then he named October. 
And however it isn't manifested 

902
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:55,200
manifest. 
So I encourage people to be able

903
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,500
to take part in it, if they can 
and to share it. 

904
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:01,800
But yeah, I mean, I just hope 
that it's it goes my refined 

905
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:07,400
It's really an amazing thing and
we benefit from it a lot and 

906
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,400
great. 
We want to thank you so much for

907
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:13,900
all that you do and your wisdom,
your courage. 

908
00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:18,200
We really look up to you. 
And we hope only good things for

909
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,000
yourself in the hubba-wha and 
hopefully we can do this again. 

910
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,700
One day, she should be, she 
Flynn was a her Lon. 

911
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:26,600
It means so much to me to hear 
that and it's a tremendous 

912
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,400
encouragement. 
And I, you know, please got a, 

913
00:51:29,408 --> 00:51:32,500
you know, a little bit of what 
you said I could hope to, you 

914
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:36,200
know, to fill But I'm very 
grateful for it and please God 

915
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,300
will be able to continue to do 
it. 

916
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:42,200
Thank you so much. 
Yeah, what's up, what's up? 

917
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,700
All the best. 
What up, what up? 

918
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:53,000
Hey guys, thanks so much for 
tuning in to the Judy's and 

919
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demystified podcast. 
Really appreciate all your 

920
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,800
support and your feedback. 
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921
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922
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,800
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923
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924
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925
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To remember, thank you again and
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Rachel's for you guys.