1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,560 Welcome to Judaism Demystified, a podcast for the perplexed. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,320 Join us as we explore some of the most fascinating Jewish and 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,200 Torah related topics with our esteemed guests. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,560 By tackling some of the biggest questions you likely won't find 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,000 addressed elsewhere, we aim to shed light on important issues 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,600 and inspire a return to the fundamentals. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,040 Enjoy the show. Thank you for joining the 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,920 Judaism Demystified podcast. We are joined by Jacob Falash. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Thank you so much that we've been trying to make this happen 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,680 for a long time, so we really appreciate you making the time 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,280 to start. Thanks for having me on, I 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,760 appreciate. It to start, could you tell our 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,920 audience a little bit about yourself, your connection to 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,800 Judaism and your work at the Daily Wire? 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Yeah, yeah, sure. So I am I am a political 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,680 activist, I am a writer and associate producer for the large 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,440 conservative company the Daily Wire have been since 2020. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,280 My connection to Judaism. I was born to an Israeli father 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,560 and a non Jewish mother whom by the way, I love and is is a is a 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,560 she loves God as much as I do. And I wanted to be helleckly 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,320 Jewish. So I converted with Chabad about 22 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:17,880 two years ago now took me about three years. 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,640 My father is of both Ashkenazi and Sephardic lineage. 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,520 His father was from Libya's, mother was from Poland. 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,680 They came over after the war. So I've had, I've had quite the, 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,200 quite the Jewish experience even when I even before I converted 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,680 my, my dad, the, the faith in the household was Judaism. 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Even knowing, you know, I wasn't a part of that yet. 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Grew up going to Shoal, Hanukkah, Pesach, all that but 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 it wasn't until a few years ago I decided to put the stamp down 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,640 and and then make it make it real. 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,480 Very cool and and your work at the Daily Wire, how did that 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,360 come about? Yeah, so I was, I was in high 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,120 school. I got into politics like a lot 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,680 of people nowadays who are into politics. 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,440 It was the 2016 election, you know, all the stuff going on 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,840 with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump it. 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,120 Was like not to be into politics. 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,120 It was it was hard not it was like everything people were 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,600 talking about that more than they were talking about, you 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,920 know, the latest scandal with whatever celebrity like it was 42 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:22,920 the talk of everything. I grew up in a in a very it was 43 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:26,800 like a 99.9% Hispanic city in California is called Downey. 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,040 So naturally, because of what I was hearing from my friends, I 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,800 was very anti Trump until my dad kind of sat me down. 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,960 He was like, these people that you're siding with, you know, 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,720 how they feel about about Israel and about the Jewish people and 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,080 about this and about that. And I was like, no. 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,000 And he was like, you know what, just listen to what your friends 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,680 are telling you. Come to me and ask me what if 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,760 it's true what they're saying or not? 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,000 Let me answer for you. And then in your own time, kind 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,840 of look into what they're saying about you and your people. 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,960 And I was like, oh, OK, so I did my research and my senior year 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,960 of high school, that was 2019. So it was, it was well into into 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,080 Trump's term. I was obsessed with Ben Shapiro. 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,280 So all of his stuff online was was regurgitating his arguments 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,600 out of my friends who weren't happy that I leaned the way I 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,440 did. And I was in history class one 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,360 day and I was like, you know what, let me let me see if I can 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,280 find their e-mail and send them an e-mail and say I want to work 62 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,440 for Ben Shapiro. Whatever. 63 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,120 So I find, I think on LinkedIn, the personal e-mail of the HR 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,080 manager at the Daily Wire at the time, it was a much smaller 65 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,520 company then that it was now. And I sent the most 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,800 unprofessional e-mail ever. Like, hi, I'm a big fan this and 67 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,760 that I gave like my political ideology. 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,920 I was like, I'm Jewish. You know, I love Ben. 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,920 I want to be just like him, whatever. 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 And I didn't hear back and six months passed and I'm in my 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,240 first semester at university. And then I just, I'm, I remember 72 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,560 I was sitting in class and then I get a ping on my phone. 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,840 I'm like, I'm like trying to make the professor like not see 74 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,840 him on my phone. Like I look and it was an e-mail 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,520 from, from the HR person say, Hey, you still want a job. 76 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,680 So I immediately I just like, I like just walked out of class. 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,880 I was like, Oh my gosh, I walked straight out of my lecture. 78 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,600 I called my dad. I was like, dad, I got an 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,200 interview with the Daily Wire. Let's go. 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,800 My dad was like jumping up and down. 81 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Awesome. And then I went and by by 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,680 Hashem's grace, they love me. And I, I started off as a very 83 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,880 low, low position. There I was, you know, it was 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,440 COVID. I was like cleaning door knobs. 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,800 I was watching, wiping off the tables, whatever it was, 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,880 involved a little bit in the production side helping like 87 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,400 move cameras and equipment or whatever. 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,320 And then we moved to Nashville in 2020 from LA because LA is 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,560 just awful, especially for a business trying to survive. 90 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,280 A producer was needed. So they threw me on to Michael 91 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:44,880 Knowles a show. It was a big jump, huge jump 92 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,320 from what I was doing to being a producer. 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,200 I had to learn on the fly, but you know, I got really close to 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Michael and I worked my way up over the years and started 95 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,400 writing for them as well, opinion pieces about everything. 96 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,640 And yeah, it was, it was a big for, for one, I did not expect 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,080 to get the job. I, I didn't deserve the job. 98 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,000 My only job experience was being like a, a bar bartender at some 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,320 bar in my own city. Like they had no reason to hire 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,600 me whatsoever. So how did you have like the 101 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,200 chops to handle being like a producer? 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,920 Like what? What do you need to figure out 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,000 or learn? Did you learn in your few years 104 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,120 before? That it's, it's very, you know, 105 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,240 I thank God. So I am a, I'm, I'm an associate 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,880 producer. So it means that there's a main 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,160 producer and then I, I, I like, I produce with him and I take 108 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,320 over the stuff that, that, that he doesn't. 109 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,520 And when I got the job, the producer was teaching me 110 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,640 everything. He was, you know, kind of 111 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,840 showing me the ropes and everything like that, But a lot 112 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,000 of it I did have to learn on my own. 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,840 And it's really just, you know, you, you go on YouTube and you 114 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,920 look at what works for other channels and you try to 115 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,120 incorporate that into your talent. 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,960 You know, whether it be the thumbnails, whether it be the, 117 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,160 you know, how you write the description or how you write the 118 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,920 titles or what the videos should be. 119 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,400 You know, it's, it's definitely a learning and you still learn 120 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,600 everyday because trends online change all the time and you want 121 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,080 to incorporate that into, into your, into your channel. 122 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,480 But it's, you know, it, it was tough in the beginning, but I'm 123 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,720 used to it now and I, I love what I do so. 124 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,040 Amazing. Yeah. 125 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,240 So now that you mentioned that, you write as well. 126 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,360 There's an article that you wrote in 2023 called for 127 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,680 pervasive myths about Israel and why they're wrong. 128 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,240 And you pointed to the far left as the loudest critics of the 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,720 Jewish state. But since October 7th, you've 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,240 seen arguably the loudest hostility coming from parts of 131 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,400 the populace, right? Figures like Tucker Carlson and 132 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,840 so on, and increasing ideological confusion among 133 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,920 young Americans who simultaneously champion human 134 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400 rights and support regimes that violate them. 135 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Have your views changed since writing that piece? 136 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,080 And what do you make of this growing left, right horseshoe 137 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,000 convergence against Israel? It's a good question. 138 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,680 So as far as if my views have changed, I think the left and 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,960 the right, I think they're both loud, standing against, you 140 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,800 know, with their anti-Semitism and standing against Israel in 141 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,960 their own way. I think the left is loud as in 142 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,160 on the streets, taking to the streets and doing all these 143 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,320 protests, whereas the right is loud primarily online. 144 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,200 And I think a lot of that is empowered by, you know, XX is 145 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,360 just a now it's just a cesspool of, of Nazism and radical Islam 146 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,320 and just everything in between. So I think they're both loud 147 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,560 and, but I think there's AI also think there's a distinction. 148 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say 1 is more evil than 149 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,800 the other between the different types of anti-Semitism on both 150 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,600 sides. But the distinction is that the 151 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,960 left, they try to hide their anti-Semitism under a, under a 152 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,800 kind of political like, you know, we want decolonization. 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,600 We want this because they try to mask it under some very flawed 154 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,320 moral ideology. They try to hide it and there's 155 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,360 a lot of, there's a lot of like, sorry for my, there's a lot of 156 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,520 idiots who are just like thinking that they're morally 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,240 correct and they, and they're not hating Jews and their 158 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,200 activism on the left. You know, I've, I've been to 159 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,400 many college campuses, I've spoken to many college students 160 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,280 even my age about this stuff. And they're, they're saying 161 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,600 everything from, yeah, we need to basically saying without 162 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,880 saying we need to ethnically cleanse the entirety of Israel. 163 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,440 We need to, you know, impose this against Zionists in the US, 164 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,040 this and that. But then I asked. 165 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,920 But then when you ask them about Jews specifically, they're like, 166 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Oh, I have nothing against Jews. Like they hear all the things 167 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,120 they're saying about how like hating Jews and then they say, 168 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,680 no, but I don't hate Jews. So that's like the I think I 169 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,159 think a lot of it is like ignorant hatred there. 170 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:35,840 There is definitely some like legitimate Jew hatred. 171 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,919 But then you have the right and this anti-Semitism that's crept 172 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,280 up on the right over the past few years. 173 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,720 And I think it kind of kicked up a lot with the Kanye stuff. 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,240 And then after October 7th, you know, the IT just blew up. 175 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,920 The thing about the right wing that you'll see, you know, you 176 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,600 have these larger pundits who try to hide it in a similar way 177 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,960 to the left about they're trying to act like isolationists or 178 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:02,360 whatever. You have a lot of the, the large 179 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,520 populace of people who don't support Israel on the right 180 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,800 online, you see all these accounts, they just straight up 181 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,880 say, I don't like Jews. They say that. 182 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,600 They say that, you know, Jews are doing usury, Jews are doing 183 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,240 this and Jews are doing that. And they're they're, they're, 184 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,360 they're like not to use their language, but they're like 185 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,200 they're naming, they're naming the Jew, you know, so they 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,000 don't, they don't hide it. So I think it's two different 187 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,000 types of hatred, more deceptive on the left, more in your face 188 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,680 on the right, more more to it on the right. 189 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,480 And you are correct that it is a horseshoe in the sense that both 190 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 both complete polar opposites are getting to the same. 191 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,400 But when you say horseshoe, I think I think when you're 192 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,080 referring to because both sides are both hating Jews at the same 193 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,720 time. I would even take it a step 194 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,440 further and I'd say it's also a horseshoe for not only the 195 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,240 hatred of Jews, but the support of radical Islam. 196 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,080 You have both sides doing that, which is very interesting. 197 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:58,600 You know, you have, you have the right from like 15 years ago who 198 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,520 was like, very not anti Muslims, not the right word, but anti 199 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,040 Islamic empire because of 911, because of all the wars we 200 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,320 fought over there and everything like that. 201 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,680 There was a sense of knowing that the Islamic Empire is not a 202 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:14,720 friend of the West and we've been at war with them because of 203 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,680 these reasons. They, they, you, you, you had 204 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:23,160 politicians citing, citing Quranic, you know, Quranic 205 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,960 prophecies about all of the, all of the like non believers in 206 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,240 Islam dying in the West and, and stuff like that. 207 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,560 You know, but now you have the right who is like kind of being 208 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:35,360 sympathetic to it because they don't like Israel and they think 209 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Israel is like, they're you have the Christians and the, the, the 210 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:43,000 not Christians, but the, what's the right word, the far right 211 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,080 fake Christians like just holding hands with radical 212 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Islamists and their hatred of Israel. 213 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,240 And they don't realize what they're doing. 214 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,920 You know, they don't, they don't understand that the, the the 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Islamist will hold their hand in hating the Jew until it's time 216 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,440 for the Islamist to also come after them. 217 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,720 You know, so it's, it's really interesting that you have both 218 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,720 sides doing that. The left supports them because 219 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,520 they're brown. I mean, they say that the more 220 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,760 brown you are, the more morally just and correct you are. 221 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,520 So, yeah, it's really interesting to see. 222 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,200 But I'm definitely very surprised from the right how 223 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,760 it's gone in this direction so quick. 224 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,880 I I five years ago I would never have expected it at all. 225 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,520 And you brought up X, the fact that it's accessible. 226 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:24,200 Do you, do you consider that to be true? 227 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Because the monetization of like engagement, like people are like 228 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,320 more it reinforces this behavior like, oh, let me keep going down 229 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,760 rabbit holes and making up conspiracies or like, because I 230 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,960 can make money off this And people seem to be, you know, 231 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 engaging in it. So they have like the motivation 232 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,200 is that, is that what you're trying to say? 233 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,800 I mean, it's like, you know, it's, it's, it's a very hard, 234 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,880 it's a very hard topic to grasp as a conservative because, you 235 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,960 know, up until, I can't remember what year Elon Musk took over X, 236 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Maybe it was like 2023 or 2024 or something like that. 237 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,240 Yeah. Not long ago I was one of the 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,720 people who was like, yeah, get those libs out of out of 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,680 Twitter, put in someone who's going to respect free speech and 240 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,640 stuff like that. It's like, you know, to an 241 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,560 extent, I, I believe everybody should be able to say what they 242 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:12,840 want. You know, there's some people 243 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,680 they'll push back and they'll say, but it's not, it's not 244 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:18,200 infringing free speech to censor on X because it's not, you know, 245 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,520 it's, it's a private company and, and whatever. 246 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,240 The thing is, though, when it comes to the main social media 247 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,520 platforms of the age, like this is the public place. 248 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,920 Like like social media is the public space. 249 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,640 If you were to just mute every single conservative account 250 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,240 overnight, we would have a liberal, an extremely liberal 251 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,040 society in a year. You know, it's like, so it's, 252 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,920 it's a very hard question to answer. 253 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,880 If I, if I think it's, you know, if I think it's because of all 254 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,640 that and you know, the implied question, do I think it should 255 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,160 be stopped? I don't know, it's hard, I 256 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,960 think. I don't think I would censor the 257 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,760 people doing it because I think that would just put fuel in the 258 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,520 fire, you know, there, I know you've seen the memes. 259 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,760 The Jew made the call, you know, to shut this person. 260 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,720 Down. Feed into their they don't don't 261 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,480 feed into it. I don't think I don't think you 262 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,000 should censor them. But man, all the people that 263 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,200 realize how stupid these people are need to be vocal like 264 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,600 myself, like you guys need to be vocal in like combating it 265 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,840 because if you're not going to censor it and shut it down, 266 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,080 people need to shut it down by using their speech as well. 267 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:23,080 You know, it's like all of these conspiracy theories and all of 268 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,040 these things, they fall apart with like a 32nd Google search. 269 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Nobody wants to do it. People in their replies are just 270 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,040 screaming anti-Semitism, but they're not saying why it's 271 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,440 wrong. You know, that's like the thing 272 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,280 that makes me the most upset. You'll see. 273 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,400 I'm not going to name any names, but there was this there's this 274 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,080 big anti-Semitic account on it. His name is Jake Shields. 275 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,880 He's an MMA fight. Yeah. 276 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Now, I'm not going to name any names about the person that was 277 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,200 replying to them, but there was a, there was a Jewish person 278 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,560 with a really big following who I know for a fact knows how to 279 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:54,600 reply to one of the conspiracies he was pushing. 280 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,880 It was about the, the dancing Israelis conspiracy about 911. 281 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,880 And instead of quote tweeting it and putting, you know, all of 282 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,560 the different, you know, he just quote tweets it and says this 283 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,960 guy's an anti-Semitic piece of garbage or something along those 284 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,200 lines. Like I'm like, what are you 285 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,720 doing? Why are you doing that? 286 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,600 This guy's on the right. He doesn't care if you call him 287 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,040 a bigot. He doesn't care, you know, if 288 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,960 you if you tell him something that'll shut him up, that'll 289 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,160 shut him up. But call him Andy something, 290 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,880 he's not going to shut him up. He's going to make it do it even 291 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,200 more because he likes being called that. 292 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,480 So, yeah, it's it's a really, it's really tough as a 293 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,600 conservative to talk about that on X because I kind of advocated 294 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,720 for it to be how it is now. But but yeah, just people need 295 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,800 to speak up more, man. That that's why, that's why I 296 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,320 started doing the stuff I did. I I was making videos, but not 297 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,960 at the rate that I did after October 7th. 298 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,120 I was just sitting there before October 7th. 299 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,000 I wasn't really talking about Jewish stuff all that much. 300 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,280 I didn't have any videos about the war in in in the war in 301 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Gaza. I wasn't talking about 302 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,400 anti-Semitism, anything like that. 303 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,400 And then I was like, well, I kind of have to like, why am I 304 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,000 going? To, I'm starting to sense, maybe 305 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,920 I'm wrong, but I'm starting to sense there's a little bit of a 306 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,160 fatigue talking about, you know, the Jewish issue. 307 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Even even people like Andrew Tate, who like, you know, he's 308 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,640 a, he said some terrible things about Jews. 309 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Even he's like, are you going to blame Jews for the not going to 310 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,240 the reason of the gym? And like, I think, I think it's 311 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,720 just like tiring people are like, OK, we when you do it too 312 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,440 much, it almost becomes like the boy who cried wolf. 313 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,760 Like seriously, like you're still you're going to blame this 314 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,760 on the Jews. It gets a little ridiculous 315 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,160 after a while. So in a way, like they're doing 316 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,000 us a favor by continuing to go down those rabbit holes. 317 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,440 Well, in a way it seems like I. Feel like it's getting more 318 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,680 powerful, not not less. Powerful. 319 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Maybe. Could be. 320 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,120 I don't know. It's yeah. 321 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,200 I, I kind of, I, I saw the video you're talking about with Tate 322 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,360 and I and I understand the point that you're making about the 323 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,440 fatigue, but I also think you should look at the response that 324 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Tate received online from that. It wasn't a bunch of because, 325 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,600 you know, just like this one test guy, Tate also has a cult 326 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,160 behind him. Tate has a cult. 327 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,200 He's following our cultish and his own people were going after 328 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,000 him saying, oh, take out the call. 329 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Oh, how many shekels did you take to say this on camera or 330 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Tate's going soft. Tate's doing that. 331 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,880 I don't know, man. I, I, I don't think people are 332 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,520 fatigued just yet. I think it's still ramping up. 333 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,200 They were calling Alex Jones like a Zionist shill at one 334 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,200 point, because he was. Saying exactly nobody. 335 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,520 Nobody. It's like a competition to see 336 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,160 who could be the most anti-Semitic, and if you're not 337 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,400 in first place, you're getting called. 338 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,400 It's in fashion, right? Now it's in. 339 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,120 Fashion to be anti-Semitic and what I'm trying to understand 340 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,120 is, and I've been asked I I I see everything that's going on 341 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,600 on X and everything it's it's a disaster. 342 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,640 I'm trying to understand how we got here the the war on Gaza. 343 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,080 I get it yes, that is the perfect springboard for for for, 344 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,960 you know, anti semites or or to to to creep out of their room. 345 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Yes, but it's just it's it it it feels like it's kind of it's 346 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,120 it's taken a life of its own and the speed of which it's taken a 347 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,599 life of it. It's it's, it's like, it's like 348 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:08,760 it's as if it's a feeling as if like you would think that it's 349 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,880 been going on for 30 years. You know what I mean? 350 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,560 They're like, it's like such a ingrained, you know, like, you 351 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,680 know, it's, it's and I'm trying to understand like what happened 352 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 over here, like what happened the left. 353 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:19,480 I'm. Sure. 354 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,160 I'm sure bots have a lot to do with it. 355 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,720 You know, there's, there's a lot of that. 356 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,079 There's a lot of, there's a lot of bots, but I'm going to be 357 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:32,000 100% honest with you. I, I do think the majority of it 358 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,320 is legitimate. I do think there's a lot of 359 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,680 people who are not sympathetic to the Jewish people right now. 360 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:44,760 And you know, it's the country over the past decade, 2 decades 361 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,720 really has been, has been going through a very hard time, very 362 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,960 hard time. Don't quote me on this, but I 363 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,640 believe it was Theodore Herzl who wrote that. 364 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,320 It might have been Theodore or it might have been someone else 365 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,200 from his time, but they wrote when nationalism rises, so does 366 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,280 anti-Semitism. Every single time I. 367 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Was. Thinking. 368 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,680 When it it's when a cause. Look, as a conservative, I love 369 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,160 nationalism. I think nationalism is a good 370 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,120 thing. You should be a nationalist and 371 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,760 a patriot for the country. I'm an American nationalist 372 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,320 100%. You know, you should be. 373 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,880 But when you get that nationalist mindset going, it's 374 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,440 very easy to look for a scapegoat for your problems. 375 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,200 And historically, the Jew has always been the scapegoat 376 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,360 always. And whether whether it be 377 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:33,360 because they were all too rich or whether it be because they 378 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,160 were all too poor, whether it be because they were all religious 379 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,800 fanatics or because they were all degenerate, degenerate, you 380 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,800 know, atheists, it just every, they're always the scapegoat. 381 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,040 I, I believe I, I have reasoning for why I think that is. 382 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,880 I think it's the, the, the curses from the book of the 383 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,320 bottom. That's my, that's my 384 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,480 interpretation of it. I think it's a playing out of 385 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:03,800 that prophecy, but it's the IT is the, you know, I don't know, 386 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,040 man, it it it grew so fast that you almost have to think that 387 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,720 it's like biblically. Yeah, the speed is alarming, 388 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,240 shocking and like and. It's not and it's not just, and 389 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,520 it, this repeats itself time and time and time, you know, 390 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,640 throughout history. Do you, do you guys know the, 391 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,760 the, the certain chapter I'm talking about? 392 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,080 And I believe, I believe it's tavodim Where, where, where 393 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Hashem is warning, Hashem is warning. 394 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,160 What will happen if the if the commandments are not obeyed and 395 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,920 it says he'll spread you to the four corners of the earth, 396 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,600 You'll never be, you'll never live in peace. 397 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,560 And it's not if you really read it, if you really read it and 398 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,920 you think about Jewish history, it lines up 1 to one. 399 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,320 It is extremely. And that was, yeah, I always 400 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,480 get, I always get asked by people. 401 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,320 I always get in conversations with people that are not 402 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,000 religious. And they asked me like, what 403 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,120 proof do you have that this is true? 404 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:51,880 And that's always the verse that I bring them up because it is 405 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,320 what you want to do is show Bible next to history, because 406 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,800 you can prove history happen and you're trying to prove that the 407 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,440 Bible will tell you ahead of time what happened in history. 408 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,080 And I always point to that. So I think it's biblical. 409 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,600 I think these risings up of anti-Semitism, whether it be in 410 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,040 the Reich or whether it be in the US now or whether it be in 411 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,640 the Soviet Union, whether it be whatever it's risen up, I think 412 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,800 it's fueled. I think it's fueled because of 413 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,240 the biblical punishment. That's my not everyone will 414 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,920 agree with me on that, you know, but. 415 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,320 But that, that's the only thing I can think of because it's 416 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,320 you're right, it's irrational. It's irrational how quick it's 417 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,840 it's big. That's the problem. 418 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,680 It's. It's no sense. 419 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,400 It's not, you know, OK, there's OK, anti OK, anti-Semitism. 420 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,760 We're not we're talking this is like like, and and I actually 421 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,440 would, would, would tell people don't go on X and don't see it 422 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,560 because it's it's it's hard to stomach. 423 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,680 It is it is mind boggling what's going on in there. 424 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:48,360 It's mind boggling, but in a sense, in this like weird way, 425 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,960 it kind of in a sense like, and and I agree with you. 426 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,960 It almost makes you think like, you know, there's something 427 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:59,320 biblical going on from just just from the it's, it's not natural 428 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,080 what's going on. It's not it's it's irrational 429 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,880 and it's. Exactly, Exactly. 430 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,920 And it it, it supersedes whatever the Jewish people do 431 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:07,720 it. No matter what the Jewish people 432 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,800 do, it always happens. It doesn't matter if we all get 433 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,400 into banking. What'd you say? 434 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,880 It's like supernatural like. Exactly. 435 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,560 It's like it doesn't matter if if we all become bankers, 436 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,360 they're going to go after us for being bankers. 437 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:21,120 If we all become poor, they're going to get after us for not 438 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:22,960 being bankers. If we don't have a state, 439 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,680 they're going to be mad at us for being a wandering people. 440 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,080 If we have a state, they're going to get mad at us for 441 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,320 having a state. That's that's the, that's, 442 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,280 that's the new, the new one, you know, so it, it has to be there. 443 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,440 There's no other, there's no other explanation. 444 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,200 And there's going to be some person that's going to watch 445 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,520 this, some, you know, person that's from that fringe right 446 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,920 conspiratorial thing who's like, oh, you know, and they always 447 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,840 say you got kicked out of 109 places. 448 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,960 And you're saying, how could that be? 449 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,280 And you don't want to blame yourself. 450 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,120 That's a very exaggerated number, but. 451 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,600 Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not. 452 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,720 It's not even an accurate number. 453 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,360 They say 119 if I'm not mistaken. 454 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,760 No, it's, it's, it's the reason I, the reason I have to memorize 455 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,360 is because there was a hashtag that went viral like a year ago 456 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:06,760 saying make America hashtag 110. So say, I mean, you just have 457 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,920 to, if you look at it, if you look at it and these people try 458 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,480 to say every time when they the people that make that argument, 459 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,840 they say, oh, it's you guys OK, what did we do? 460 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,440 What did we do? Tell me, oh, you guys were all 461 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,320 doing usury. OK, What about here where we 462 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,240 weren't doing usury? Why'd we get why'd we get kicked 463 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,160 out of there? Oh, well, you guys were just 464 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,080 wandering people. OK, then why are these people 465 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,040 crying that we have a state now? You know, it's like, oh, you 466 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,640 guys were all degenerate people that were funding trans stuff. 467 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,640 They say that about the Third Reich. 468 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,560 He's like, OK, then why did we get kicked out for being 469 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,520 religious over there? You know, it's, it's not that. 470 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,240 It's not that. I don't know you. 471 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,320 You, you get the point I'm trying to make. 472 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,440 It's. One of the things that they'll 473 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,360 say if we'll get like DMS from anti semites also, sometimes 474 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:51,320 they'll, they'll say that we, you know, they were Jews in the 475 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,360 last few, you know, presidents cabinets that were very 476 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,240 influential in, in the president's ear and all that. 477 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,040 I'm like every single president was Christian and and like most 478 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,560 of the banks and and most of the powerful people in America are 479 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Irish, if I'm not mistaken. And you know, like, how come 480 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,600 we're not talking about them? Like, why why is this? 481 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,960 There's such an obsession. It's it's really like, it's 482 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,680 cool. Yeah. 483 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,360 And you know, we we actually we're talking about this on 484 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:19,720 Friday, but the Deuteronomy Devarim 917, I think that it 485 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,120 says that the reason. This week's Yeah. 486 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,000 This week's partial. I don't know when we release it, 487 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 It's not going to be this week's partial anymore, but talking 488 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,080 about how when we basically earn the land of Israel, it's not 489 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:32,320 because of our righteousness, but it's because of the 490 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:39,240 wickedness of the nations or the wickedness of the nations or the 491 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,240 the promise given to our ancestors. 492 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,760 But the fact is it's not it's not due to our righteousness. 493 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,880 And that should tell us a lot like after the Holocaust, we got 494 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,760 the land of Israel because the the nations reached such a level 495 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:56,440 of wickedness that, you know, This is why we need our own 496 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,800 place to live. We need our own it's. 497 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,600 Very interesting that the Torah seems to constantly, it's almost 498 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,240 like we're getting knocked in the head constantly throughout 499 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040 the Bible and the prophets. Like we're getting knocked in 500 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,400 the head. You would think for a the chosen 501 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,960 people. A lot of the rhetoric going on, 502 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040 of course, is like, you guys think you're the chosen people. 503 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,640 Look how you act. You guys think you're the 504 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,480 chosen. Please look at well, actually 505 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,120 the Torah, the Torah is the one that says we're a stiff necked 506 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,120 nation. You know, we've done terrible 507 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,960 things, you know, like for, for a chosen people, the Torah is 508 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,240 not exactly giving us our roses. It is actually constantly 509 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,480 hitting us over the head and telling us we have to be better. 510 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:42,120 I wish people would read like read with with with with read 511 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,440 carefully these verses and see what the Torah itself says about 512 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,840 our chosenness that that it is. It's not about us being better. 513 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,080 It's it's about it's about having extraordinary 514 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,200 forefathers, yes, that that did some some incredible things that 515 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,520 changed the world. And it is also about, you know, 516 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,560 wickedness of others, not the righteousness of of of our own. 517 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,840 So these are important points that when you when you look at 518 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,520 these, especially this this week's parsha, it really, really 519 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,440 hammers at home. And I wish these would get 520 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,120 presented to the public like like, it's as if like they think 521 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:18,280 like the the Torah is like, you know, putting us on a pedestal, 522 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,880 but the Torah actually does not put us on a pedestal. 523 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,120 It is constantly hitting us over the head. 524 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,560 But what's? Interesting is that if you're 525 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,680 trying to, if you're inventing a religion, you would never try to 526 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,480 sell this religion to this audience. 527 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,400 They'd be like, why would we want this? 528 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,920 We have to keep all these laws and everyone hates us and God 529 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,960 hates us it seems. Like, you know. 530 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Like that, that doesn't make sense. 531 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,320 So the fact of the matter is we, we understand the value of being 532 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,360 introspective. You know, I, I was actually my a 533 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,920 rabbi right on my roof made this point about, you know, the Nakba 534 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,520 is something that you know, the that's the the tragedy that the 535 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Palestinians bring up about their their history. 536 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080 It's also it's. Also fake but. 537 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,640 You know, whatever that's separate, separate issue. 538 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,000 But the point is, is that they're they, they identify that 539 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,640 as the biggest tragedy of their history and, and the Zionists 540 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,600 are the cause and it's constantly being brought up. 541 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,200 It's the Zionists, it's the Jews and so on, on our saddest day in 542 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480 our history is that's to Shabba AB. 543 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,160 We don't, we don't ever talk about like the Romans. 544 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,800 We're talking about what did we do wrong? 545 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,600 Why did we deserve this? We're we're not, our identity is 546 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,440 not tied into, you know, blaming some other nation for our 547 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,040 problems. The same goes with the with the 548 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,360 naveen. Yeah. 549 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Throughout the prophets, it's always about what we did wrong, 550 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,080 not about Assyrians, not about, you know, very little talk about 551 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,480 that. Excellent point. 552 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,160 OK, let's move on. Many have criticized the 553 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,920 traditional Hazbara model, pointing to gala centric 554 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,160 advocacy, ADL style institutional responses and a 555 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,160 failure to win hearts and minds on campuses. 556 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,800 Do you agree with that assessment? 557 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,160 And if so, what kind of messaging or approach do you 558 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000 think would actually resonate with young people in the broader 559 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,400 cultural moment we're in? And it has been shown 560 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,560 statistically that with the younger generation is where 561 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,320 we're really feeling the most, right. 562 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080 Now so. So, yeah, the first thing that 563 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,320 has to be done is you got to stop calling everything 564 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,880 anti-Semitic. You have to. 565 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,040 I understand that it might be true sometimes, maybe most of 566 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,640 the time on the stuff that people are saying, the people 567 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920 are not going to stop having the opinion that they're having 568 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,280 because you're calling it anti-Semitic. 569 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,600 That's not that's not how how people's minds work. 570 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,120 Maybe that was that worked 10 years ago, you know, before I 571 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:34,960 got into politics. The thought of somebody calling 572 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,400 me a racist make me shiver, you know, like, Oh my gosh, no, I'm 573 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,160 not racist. Please, stuff like that. 574 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,880 And then I went and I spoke out against BLM and I could and I 575 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,120 started caring less about being called racist, you know, because 576 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,240 I know that I'm not. And these people, they believe 577 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,040 what they believe. You call them an anti Semite in 578 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,600 their minds, they don't think they're anti-Semitic. 579 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,920 For the left more, this goes to the left more. 580 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,520 So that's the first thing. Stop calling everything 581 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,680 anti-Semitic and only attacking the person and not attacking the 582 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,680 idea. I think the best approach to 583 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,640 doing it. You mentioned campuses. 584 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,840 You need to find people that knows their stuff, that knows 585 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,360 you know all of the responses to all of the common arguments. 586 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,240 And you got to do similar to what Charlie Kirk has done. 587 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,120 You got to sit someone at a table, have a line, and just 588 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:20,240 shoot down every single one and push those clips everywhere. 589 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Because right now, it doesn't matter if you're talking about 590 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,080 the millennials, it doesn't matter if you're talking about 591 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,200 Gen. Z, doesn't even matter if you're 592 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,160 talking about the young Gen. Alpha. 593 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,480 Everyone is getting all of their information from a screen. 594 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,400 And the only way you're going to be able to do that is if you 595 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,720 match where these people's news are coming from and you put your 596 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,960 content in front of their eyes. So I think I think the first 597 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,160 thing would be to have people debating people with these ideas 598 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,120 and taking away the, the demonizing of the people and 599 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,520 instead the the demonizing of the demonizing or not even the 600 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,400 demonizing, just the, the dismemberment of their ideas. 601 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,960 I've seen way too many, way too many, you know, people just 602 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,600 attacking somebody and not attacking their idea. 603 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,520 And that gets us nowhere. AD. 604 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,760 Hominem, ad hominem ad hominem. Exactly. 605 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,800 It gets us nowhere. It gets us nowhere, you know, I 606 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,800 think. I think that you got to fight 607 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,160 ideas with ideas. I would always cringe like I 608 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,240 remember years ago when, when the whole Kyrie Irving thing 609 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,120 happened and they were like, basically, I think it was the 610 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Adli forget, but basically like the the response is always we're 611 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,200 going to take, we're going to you're going to have to go to a 612 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,960 Holocaust Museum and you know, donate to, you know, whatever 613 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,720 cause or to me, that's like, first of all, it seems like 614 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,520 sounds like Disneyland, like for an anti semite to take him to 615 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,920 the Holocaust Museum. You know, like that, that 616 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,560 already in itself is like how, how is that going to help? 617 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,520 So that always made me like, you know, feel strange. 618 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,480 But besides for that, I think I I agree with you. 619 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,400 I think we need better people, But I actually think that and I 620 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,000 think Israel needs to do a better job with their PR because 621 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,440 the old, the old Hazbara system isn't working. 622 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,320 I find that the most effective voices on campus that I've seen 623 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,880 as like people like Rudy Rachman and people like Abraham Hamrah 624 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,040 and Tal Oran, the traveling clot, like, why them? 625 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Because they are brown Jews. Let's be, you know, I don't 626 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,880 know, I'm also Persian, You know, I think that that kind of 627 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240 messes with people's heads. Like, what do you mean Jews can 628 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,760 look like this? They don't, for some reason, 629 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,120 everything. 'S contradict the narrative that 630 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,760 every Israeli is from Poland. Correct and then these and 631 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,400 they're, you know, they're from we're from Iran, where people 632 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,200 have to leave and and most people in 1979, people had to 633 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720 leave from from many Arab countries. 634 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,480 And people like Gad sad these people who are speaking out. 635 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,600 They he comes from experience of, hey, we were we had a huge 636 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160 thriving Jewish community in Lebanon and look at us now. 637 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,040 Those voices are hard to argue with because people have to pay 638 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,680 attention. Like what exactly such a thing? 639 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Well, when people hear, I've heard many people be like, I 640 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,520 didn't even know they were black Jews. 641 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Like I I was shocked. Like, you go to Israel. 642 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Like how many black Jews everywhere? 643 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,040 I also, I also think it would be beneficial, and I'm only going 644 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,920 to say this because you brought up the Adli also think it would 645 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,280 be very beneficial to put left left wing leaning conservative 646 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,440 pages and advocacy groups. I think it would just the 647 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,640 disbandment of them completely would help us quite a bit 648 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,120 because they don't really do anything anything good for us. 649 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,360 They do most of the crying about the anti-Semitism whereas the 650 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,560 people on the right they're more pro attacking the ideas head on. 651 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,400 I would even just because you mentioned the ADL. 652 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,800 I'll give my my little rant off. I don't think there is any 653 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,080 organization I despise more than the Adli. 654 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,920 Do not like them. I do not like them one bit 655 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,160 before I, before I, I remember when I was younger, before I was 656 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920 into politics, they would post something here and there and I 657 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,560 might share it to my story about something that was like 658 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,720 legitimately anti-Semitic. But you know, when you dig into 659 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,480 them, I think they cause a lot of anti-Semitism groups like the 660 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:50,160 ADL saying like I think they said, like I think on their for 661 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,960 defamation reasons. You got to look this up. 662 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,040 Don't don't take me in my word. I think on their website it says 663 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,280 it says that being white is OK is an anti-Semitic slogan. 664 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,600 Or they also say that abortion is a Jewish value. 665 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,160 So right. So right then and now that one I 666 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,640 know is true, abortion is a Jewish value. 667 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,640 They've openly said that. I've responded to that. 668 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,840 And it's just in those two things alone, you have the 669 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,960 entire white populace of the United States seeing us as an 670 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,760 enemy saying that the Jews, the ADL who purports to represent 671 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,440 Jews is now saying it's not OK to be white. 672 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,280 And then you also telling them the Jews think it's OK to murder 673 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,880 babies. You know, So I think as far as 674 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,280 Bara goes, if you move away from the left wing people who are 675 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800 trying to push us to something that we're not, and he gets a 676 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,760 real decor of attacking the arguments with a logical more 677 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,560 right wing way. I think at least for the right 678 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,080 wing critics, we'll do a little better, you know, because when 679 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000 you when you have when you have these far right wing people, 680 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,520 yeah, they'll attack Ben Shapiro and yeah, they'll attack get 681 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,800 sad. But a lot of the people that 682 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,120 they're attacking are like the CEO of ADL or not CEO, the owner 683 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,120 of ADL or stuff like that. So I think if you push those 684 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,800 people out of the space, we'll be doing a lot better too. 685 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,680 I remember a few years ago, Bradley Cooper was playing some 686 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,720 Jewish musician in a movie and they had like he had like a 687 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120 prosthetic nose to look more like him and they were crying. 688 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,560 They were crying anti-Semitism and I don't know if it was them. 689 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080 I remember which group was was, I don't want to say it was ADL, 690 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,720 but and I was just like, he's playing a character that looked 691 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,880 like that. Like exactly problem. 692 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,680 Like why? I don't understand, why aren't 693 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,800 we? Because, wait, I have a question 694 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,120 for you now. Yeah, if you think that's OK, Do 695 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,400 you think blackface is OK too? I got to ask. 696 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,240 Do I think blackface is OK? That's a good question. 697 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Now that you know, we know how people feel about it. 698 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,480 Obviously not, but like I think when I remember what's his name 699 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,920 was playing Jimmy Kimmel was playing Karl Malone. 700 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,880 So if he's playing Karl Malone, he like he has to wear the Karl 701 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Malone costume, I guess, but he wasn't being racist when he was 702 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,760 doing it. I think he was just making fun 703 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,560 of Karl Malone. So it depends what you're doing. 704 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,400 If you're wearing blackface just to be like like Howard Stern 705 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,080 wearing blackface or whatever it is, obviously that's different. 706 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,720 You know that that's you're trying to I. 707 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,440 Have the. I have the same take. 708 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,600 Yeah, I have the same take as you. 709 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,440 Yeah, just don't if you're doing it depends why you're doing it. 710 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,080 And like, is it about the person or are you making fun of the the 711 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,960 black part of it? You know, so that's kind of how, 712 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,360 how I feel about it. But yeah. 713 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,040 So moving on to the next question. 714 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,920 As an observant Jew working in a largely Christian and secular 715 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,639 conservative space, how do you navigate tensions or 716 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,960 disagreements on issues like religion, Israel, and moral 717 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,440 values with colleagues or influencers who don't share a 718 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080 worldview? It's a good question. 719 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:31,120 It's a good question. So I will say that most of the 720 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,800 first, first we'll start about, you know, I'll start with 721 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,639 Christianity. Most of the people I work with, 722 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:36,520 you're right, they're Christians. 723 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:44,120 And the Christians, they believe that in order for me to achieve 724 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,520 salvation after death, I need to accept their Savior. 725 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,679 When I was first getting into the movement, I would get 726 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,239 offended because the first area of contention that you're asking 727 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,159 me about came from them trying to convert me all the time. 728 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,600 I would get kind of offended, like, why do you not? 729 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,680 But I kind of moved away from that. 730 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,640 And you know, every time that it happens to me now, I kind of 731 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,560 just have this lens in my head. This person loves me. 732 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,440 And because of their religion, they believe they want me, that 733 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,360 I need to believe a certain thing or else I'm going to be 734 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,880 punished for eternity. It comes from a good place in 735 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,440 their heart, you know, even knowing. 736 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480 So I, I, I, I don't get mad at them for that. 737 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,360 It does happen quite a bit with people that I work with everyday 738 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,440 or people that I don't work with so often. 739 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,360 It's just they, they believe that they want to, you know, 740 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,880 save me. But with the difference of 741 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,000 religion in specific when it comes to Christians, you know, I 742 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,800 am a conservative and, you know, my long term ambitions are I 743 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,160 want to be a senator in this country. 744 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,040 I wanted to since I was young. I'm going to be working with 745 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,480 mainly Christians in the Senate and I have no issue with doing 746 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:51,680 it because Christian moral ethics and Jewish moral ethics 747 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,560 are very closely aligned. I mean, if you go to the golden 748 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,720 rule in Christianity is I think it's like treat others how you 749 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,880 want to be treated, right. And then Judaism doesn't 750 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,400 necessarily have a golden rule. That's just like as like boom a 751 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,160 statement as that is Christianity's. 752 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,760 But I mean, you have you have Rabbi Hillel, who was who was 753 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,120 alive and, and, and what did he say? 754 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Or on one foot. Love your neighbor as yourself. 755 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,760 Exactly, you know, so even even at the most base, do not. 756 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,120 Do it to. Others that you don't, we don't. 757 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,680 Want Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it it's what what is 758 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,760 hateful to your neighbor is hateful. 759 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,560 What is what is hateful to you is hateful to your neighbor. 760 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,720 And he said if you if you know that, you know the entire Torah. 761 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:39,280 The rest is commentary. Yeah, he said that yeah. 762 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,000 And so even in the most, even in the most like basic level, you 763 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,120 know, you, you have that, you have that alignment. 764 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Do we agree on some different theological points? 765 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,760 Of course. But when it comes to like 766 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,240 morals, if they're very closely aligned, especially when it 767 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,360 comes to what the conservative movement wants, I'm anti 768 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,160 abortion. The Christians are anti abortion 769 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,560 on the right. You know, I do not want to see, 770 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,800 I want to see gay marriage reversed in this country. 771 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,480 They same thing, you know, I, I do not think that men can be 772 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,880 women. They're opposed to that as well. 773 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,360 They share the book of Genesis with us. 774 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,360 You know, the it's just we're, we're in line with a bunch of of 775 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,240 the same stuff. So I you know. 776 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,280 One of the best, oh, sorry, I just want to say one of the best 777 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,400 interfaith voices in the Jewish world was Rabbi Sachs. 778 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,000 May your resume his memory be a blessing. 779 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,320 Yeah. So I, I was going to say we 780 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,800 should probably gobble that up because that, that, that will, 781 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,520 that gives a lot of direction in terms of, of the goals that 782 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,400 you're aiming towards and how to, I'm sure you probably 783 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,920 probably have gobbled it up, No. Oh my gosh, yeah. 784 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,680 I, I watch him all the time and re read his books. 785 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,200 It's phenomenal. Rabbi Sacks is a he was a he was 786 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,160 a blessing not only to the Jewish people, but to the world. 787 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,160 Exactly. And I was just, we were, we were 788 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,120 talking about it the other day. I, I find myself wondering what 789 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,400 would Rabbi Sacks say about everything that's going on 790 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,720 today? It's one of the, the, the, it's 791 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:03,360 one of the hardest things about being in the space and time that 792 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,400 we're in is that I don't, we don't, I don't, we can't, We 793 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,760 can't, I can't, We don't have that full back of Rabbi Sacks's 794 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:18,960 voice to illuminate in these extremely unnatural times that 795 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,760 we're in a way. I also feel like I don't even 796 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,720 know if you'd get invited to like a Piers Morgan country or 797 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,920 if you would go on because the type of rabbis that they find 798 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,200 they put on these. Shows OH. 799 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,280 God. Rabbi Rabbi Shmuli Boutique. 800 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,040 All of these, forget about him. There's there's a bunch of other 801 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,880 ones that that he brought. Up. 802 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,280 They're actually really. Yeah, yeah, that's. 803 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,240 It but but The thing is bring forget about that you have other 804 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,360 rabbis that like Candace Owens brought to someone I forget who 805 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,840 else some other people brought up I. 806 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,280 Remember that I was there for that interview. 807 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,840 Yeah, like they bring on these rabbits. 808 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,320 I'm like, I don't think these people have a following. 809 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,480 Like I don't. I've never met anyone who's 810 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,440 like, I follow this guy, you know, like, where do they find 811 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,400 these these people? And unfortunately, I don't think 812 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,280 they would put a microphone in front of Rabbi Sacks today, but 813 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,320 he would obviously still his voice would be heard because he 814 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,880 had a big platform. And I just think that his. 815 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,680 I was even just saying it in terms of myself. 816 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,240 I just would like to hear his thoughts from my sanity. 817 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,760 You know what I'm? Saying 100%. 818 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,920 You know who I would love to go for him to go on? 819 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,240 Piers Morgan. Someone like Amy Kozak would be 820 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,440 fair. Because I've met met him very 821 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,240 nice guy, very smart guy, We. Had him on the. 822 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,000 Park yeah, it's very thoughtful things to always. 823 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,160 Say, but yeah, so as far as the religious, religious aspect of 824 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,680 your question, no issue because we align on pretty much 825 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,880 everything. We have the same goals. 826 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,600 We have the same view of where we want the country to go. 827 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,400 Now you also asked about am I am I correct in remembering you 828 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480 also asked about Israel and their opinions on Israel. 829 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:46,360 So listen, as a conservative and American conservative, I do not 830 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120 believe might get some pushback on this. 831 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,720 I do not believe you necessarily need to to support Israel 832 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,040 enthusiastically to be considered a conservative and 833 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,360 for me to work, work next to you. 834 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,400 But I'm going to put a very specific frame around this, 835 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,760 extremely specific. I'm talking about people who do 836 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,520 not want to give American tax dollars to Israel because 837 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,840 they're isolationists. You know, isolationism is a, 838 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,000 it's, it is a brain dead political ideology. 839 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,640 It does it, it's just imagine what would happen if the, if 840 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,680 the, if the isolationists in the 30s prevented the US from 841 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,240 getting involved in World War 2. You know, it's like it's, it's a 842 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,080 dead ideology. But if somebody holds that, I 843 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,760 don't mind working by them on the other issues that we, we 844 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,760 have in mind. However, if it's somebody that 845 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,240 doesn't support the state of Israel because they don't 846 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:42,480 believe that Jewish people deserve a state, or it's like 847 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,520 something rooted in the disapproval of the Jewish 848 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,840 people. Or if it's something rooted in 849 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,720 sympathy for radical Islam, like you see a lot of these people on 850 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,160 the right who are probably funded by Qatar. 851 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,400 If it's like that, those two groups of people I'm not going 852 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,240 to work with and those two groups of people I won't, I 853 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,680 won't touch because they're either sellouts or dishonest. 854 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,480 You don't want to work with work with dishonest people. 855 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,120 Or two, they hate me because I'm a Jew, you know, So those two 856 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,120 people I won't work with. But if you are a, if you are a 857 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,760 type of right winger who just believes that America and tax 858 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,560 dollars should just stay within our domestic borders, I'll 859 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,440 probably have a conversation with you about how, you know, 860 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,280 unwise that is. But I, I won't refuse to work 861 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,600 with you on stuff we agree on. You know, and in my plan and in 862 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,320 my time, I've run into a couple people like that. 863 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,920 And I've, I've worked with a couple people like that who have 864 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,720 had, I won't name them. And we've had long discussions 865 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,800 on isolationism and stuff like that. 866 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,440 But there are people that express to me, hey, man, I have 867 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,080 no beef against Israel, man, I don't want, I don't, I don't 868 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,920 have, why would I ally, ally with Iran or Hezbollah? 869 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,320 Or are these groups over Israel? Israel's more western than them. 870 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,600 But I just don't, I don't think it's our business to do that. 871 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,480 And you know, obviously I have my retorts to that, you know, 872 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,040 all the American interests in in having the leg in different 873 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,800 parts of the world, but. $3 billion a year, whatever it is, 874 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,280 that that Israel. Exactly. 875 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:06,960 If they if, if they're just, if they're just thinking, they're 876 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,040 yeah, if they're just thinking with their pocketbook, I'll work 877 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,800 with them. You know, I, I that's that the. 878 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,920 Thing is also just one of the most frustrating things about 879 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,960 the arguments they make is that America fought like a bunch of 880 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,640 regime change wars since 9:11 and they were fighting, you 881 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,720 know, Arab countries. And naturally there's going to 882 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:29,120 be blowback. And of course the little Satan 883 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,640 is going to get the brunt of it because they're right there. 884 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,400 So you can't just be like, OK, see you later, peace out Israel, 885 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,800 you know you don't want. To go down this hole, because 886 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,240 then they're going to tell you that they fought all those 887 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:42,680 regime changes forward, you know, But you know, you had. 888 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,800 Israel was against the Iraq war and and you know, they'll 889 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,520 they'll beat me in A tag no had. No influence exactly, but it's 890 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,480 also you don't even need to go as if you really want to get to 891 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,600 the root of it, you can just make the generalized point that 892 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,480 Israel, I mean, not Israel, the the Islamic empire. 893 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:01,240 You refer to them as like Arab states. 894 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:03,080 I just call it the Islamic Empire because that's just what 895 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,480 it is. All the all the Muslims, whether 896 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,600 they enter fight or not, it's one big empire. 897 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,160 They all have one common goal, which is the conversion of the 898 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,320 entire planet. It's Islam, not only the US, 899 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,320 it's just the West in general has been fighting the war for 900 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,840 1000 or fighting the Islamic empire for thousands of years. 901 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,640 You know, I mean, you can just the Crusades is the first 902 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,560 example that comes to your mind. You know, they, they tried to 903 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,800 take over the entirety of the West and since then it's just 904 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,040 been non-stop fighting. They, you can't, the West ends 905 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,720 in the, in the Islamic Empire. They can't, they can't coexist 906 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,080 without conflict. So any Westerners who are 907 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,880 advocating on behalf of the Islamic Empire is doing so to 908 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,560 the detriment of their own country. 909 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,200 You know, so, so that that's the type of person I wouldn't, I 910 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,320 wouldn't, I wouldn't deal with because I don't, I don't think 911 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,960 that they're, you know, aligned with me in any way. 912 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:54,720 So for the 5th question I wanted to ask you, do you have hope for 913 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:58,480 the future? Do you, what do you see in terms 914 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,400 of trends among young Jews or other movements that would, 915 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,880 would, would, would make you have hope for the for for the 916 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,200 right direction? In the future, yeah. 917 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,960 I, you know, it's very, it's very interesting. 918 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,320 October 7th was obviously a tragedy, right? 919 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,040 And all of the lives that were lost, may they rest in peace and 920 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,640 maybe remember them every day that we live. 921 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,360 But something, I guess good that came out of October 7th. 922 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,560 And it feels so weird to say that is the amount of secular 923 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,240 Jews I see coming to Habads and the amount of Jews that I see 924 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:44,200 are actually acknowledging their heritage and coming together 925 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,480 because of it. You know, that gives me hope 926 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,120 because we are as the Jewish people, we are in the most 927 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,600 trouble when we put aside who we are, when we don't want to 928 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,520 acknowledge who we are, when we don't want to adhere to the 929 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,000 covenant that all of us are a part of. 930 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,920 It was made by by Abraham and Hashem and then later Moses and 931 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,920 Hashem. That that gives me hope. 932 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,320 The type of unity I'm seeing in our people. 933 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,560 You know, you obviously have some of the stragglers that are 934 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,360 advocating for the enemy and the people that don't like us. 935 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,600 But I see a lot of people that, you know, pre October 7th 936 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,240 wouldn't have ever really identified with anything 937 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,520 remotely Jewish, never been to a Khabad, never posted anything 938 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640 about Israel, never thought of going to Israel, never thought 939 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,120 of doing anything like that. And now these are people that 940 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,520 have golden ribbons in their Instagrams going to pro, going 941 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,280 to the pro Israel marches, doing all this stuff. 942 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,360 I think that's a good thing. I think when the Jewish people 943 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,720 are united, I think that makes Hashem happy. 944 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,760 And I think when Hashem is happy, we live a better life. 945 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:52,600 So that that gives me hope. But just as we are doing better, 946 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,880 so is the enemy. You know, opposition to us is 947 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,600 growing at a rate that you mentioned earlier is just 948 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,840 irrational, inconceivable. So, you know, I'm optimistic 949 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,160 that we can raise to match and fight it. 950 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560 We haven't yet. Well, I mean, let's, let's just 951 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,920 be honest with each other. We're getting pummeled right 952 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,200 now. We're getting pummeled. 953 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:20,480 As you mentioned, Khasbara is failing, but if we if this 954 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,840 pattern of Jewish unity and Jewish speaking out continues 955 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,920 and it goes into OverDrive, I'm, I'm optimistic of the future. 956 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:33,480 I think that we can, I think that we can, you know, push back 957 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,880 against it to get us to a good point. 958 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,600 But even even you asked me if there's anything I see that has 959 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,080 me optimistic. The one thing that I will say 960 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,320 regardless, it doesn't really matter what I see in the now, 961 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,880 the Jewish people have always been OK and we're always going 962 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,600 to be OK. You know, every Pesach, when you 963 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,360 read the Haggadah, it talks about every single person that's 964 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120 come after us, every single powerful and how none of them 965 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,760 exist. I don't know what's going to 966 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,360 happen tomorrow. I don't know if a nation is 967 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,280 going to invade Israel. I don't know if a nation is 968 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,800 going to do another show. I don't know. 969 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,680 But what I do know is that when it all ends, we're going to be 970 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,360 OK because it's biblical and because that's been the pattern 971 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,560 of history. So I'll always be optimistic. 972 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,160 It doesn't matter how turn it down in the dirt. 973 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,760 If, if the war ended tomorrow and you know, Israel was the 974 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,720 richest country in the world, I would feel just as optimistic as 975 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:29,160 I did on the day of October 7th. That can't shake because we will 976 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,000 always be OK. We have always been OK and we 977 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,840 will always be OK. You know, I was with my cousins 978 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,480 were visiting from Israel with Shabbat and I asked some similar 979 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,960 question like what are you seeing? 980 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,240 Because obviously there's fatigue from the war and all 981 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,720 that, but are you, what are you optimistic about? 982 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,040 And they said something interesting that they're 983 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,480 noticing a lot of. There's a lot of renewed spirit 984 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,320 and interest in Judaism, even among celebrities. 985 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,920 Celebrities in Israel are like becoming outwardly proud of 986 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,400 their Judaism. It's, it's just like an 987 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,440 interesting thing that's happening. 988 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,000 It's fascinating. It's true, Yeah. 989 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,560 You know, there's something like to feed into what you're saying. 990 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,960 Just a personal experience I had, you know, with the at the 991 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,920 Daily Wire, a lot of people, a lot of people say that the Daily 992 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,640 Wire is like a, you know, completely Jewish company and, 993 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,520 and stuff like that. But in reality there's like 3 994 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,920 Jews that work at the entire company out of hundreds of 995 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,000 employees. And a few of them are just 996 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,520 completely secular. You know, they're Jewish, 997 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,040 they're conservative, but they don't, they don't keep post 998 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,720 October 7th. I've had more than one of them 999 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:35,880 come up to me and ask to rap to fill in for the first time. 1000 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,320 It has to ask me where the Hibat is. 1001 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,640 And I even have one of them. His name was Ira and he came to 1002 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,520 Shoal with me and he started rapping to fill in every day. 1003 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,720 I gave him a pair of my to fill in an extra one that I had raps 1004 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,960 every single day went to New York, got his own pair, came 1005 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,840 home and now he goes to goes to Shoal every single Shabbos. 1006 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,520 It's it's a good, it's a good trend when it's coming to when 1007 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,600 it come, when it's coming to secular people turning over 1008 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,080 because I think they realize the real danger of being a Jew alone 1009 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,440 in the world. You know, they see really what 1010 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,520 we're up against and they want to turn to their own people for 1011 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,040 comfort. So it's, it's a really, it's a 1012 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,480 really good trend. I will just say back circle back 1013 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,640 to the anti-Semitism hope in regards to anti-Semitism, it's 1014 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,200 different. My example that I'm going to 1015 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,600 give is very different for many reasons. 1016 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,520 But there was a time not long ago that we thought that 1017 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:38,880 liberalism and woke ISM is like, is like an immovable object 1018 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,160 that's just going to continue to like, you know, swallow 1019 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:43,520 everything, swallow everything up. 1020 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,480 What happened? Well, kind of like what you 1021 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,800 said, right? Conservatives mobilized boots on 1022 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,360 the ground. You see Charlie Kirk going to 1023 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,640 going to colleges, the online space, all that's and and all of 1024 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,280 a sudden things flipped. It's different, of course, but I 1025 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,600 do think that it does serve a model that we should think about 1026 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,000 that things do change. You know, there are times, you 1027 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,360 know, where, where, where we thought that the country's like, 1028 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,320 you know, 100% go in a certain direction and things change and 1029 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,920 it changes because of actions taken. 1030 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,720 You can't just leave it and you also can't feel like it's 1031 00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:25,560 hopeless even if you were to do something. 1032 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,320 What we really need to do is do something and let the chips fall 1033 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,440 and see what happens, because things can and do change. 1034 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,720 Yep. And I want to also just add, 1035 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,880 it's a beautiful message, but I want to add to that, that one of 1036 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,080 the positives that I see that we should, you know, give a shout 1037 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,840 out to are the many friends that we never knew we had that are 1038 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,360 coming out to speak on our behalf, you know, from from the 1039 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,480 non Jewish world and from the Jewish world, but who are 1040 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,240 speaking out like, you know, and they're taking up a big risk in 1041 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,120 many ways now. And, you know, it's funny if it 1042 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,000 says Jews control the media, If that's the case, you know, why 1043 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,080 are we seeing that everyone's against the Jews in the media? 1044 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,040 The thing is. When people say you're not 1045 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,160 allowed to talk about against the Jews and that's all that's 1046 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,400 happening, it's like you're not allowed to say anything good 1047 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,520 about the Jews at this point. But. 1048 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,080 I'm not allowed to. They always, a lot of them say 1049 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,080 like I'm not allowed to talk about this, but but you're 1050 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,000 talking all the time. Literally all the time. 1051 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:19,720 Sorry to interrupt. Yeah. 1052 00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:23,120 So, so, you know, I want to just give a shout out to, to those 1053 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,640 people who we find, you know, constantly online who are so 1054 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,120 courageous and speaking up for us and they're seeing what's 1055 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,040 happening. Righteous among the Nations. 1056 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,280 Yes, absolutely. Just one of them that comes to 1057 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,320 mind. I see like Patricia Heaton, the 1058 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,400 actress from Everybody Loves Raymond, like I never thought 1059 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,800 that she would be like politically active. 1060 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,400 And this is the one thing she's very, you know, adamant about 1061 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000 and she's constantly defending the Jews and she sees it for 1062 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000 what it is. And I'm like, that's really nice 1063 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,760 to see that someone like that is like, I would never expect it. 1064 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,760 So it's really, it's a nice thing to see at the same time. 1065 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,840 And just to finalize the last question I wanted to discuss, 1066 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,280 and we kind of touched on it a little bit, is, you know, the 1067 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,080 fact that you're grounded in Torah values. 1068 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,680 How do you think Jewish tradition can offer moral 1069 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,680 clarity in today's cultural chaos? 1070 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,920 Are there specific teachings or frameworks that you think young 1071 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,120 people, Jewish or not, need to hear right now? 1072 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,960 That's a really good question. You know, when it comes to 1073 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:29,480 values from the Torah, you know, we, I'm going to give, I'm going 1074 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,160 to give my advice specifically to the Jewish people since we've 1075 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,120 been talking about, I know you asked for those who aren't and 1076 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,560 those who are. I'm going to give, it's going to 1077 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,720 sound kind of cliche because you asked me about which values 1078 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:43,000 specifically, but I'm going to say all of them. 1079 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,720 And the reason I say all of them is because the Jewish people 1080 00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:49,120 fall apart when we don't adhere to the entire book that our 1081 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,600 ancestors were given. That's been the case throughout 1082 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,120 all of history. We fell short during the time of 1083 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,520 the second base summit Dash. We got kicked out throughout all 1084 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:03,040 of all of Jewish history, not adhering to the entirety. 1085 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,400 You can follow parts of it. You can follow certain things. 1086 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,840 If you don't do all of it, you fall apart. 1087 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,760 You know Deuteronomy 4/2, it says, it says you shouldn't add 1088 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,480 or take away anything from what I'm giving. 1089 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,120 You can't follow some and not others. 1090 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:20,800 So, so I think every single value, every single word in the 1091 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,800 Torah is divine. Every single word was put there 1092 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,440 for a reason. Every single sentence has a 1093 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,720 meaning and every single Jewish people, Jewish person should go 1094 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,880 through it and read it and live their daily lives by the words 1095 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,480 in it. And I just, I, I can't emphasize 1096 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,720 that enough. You know, I, there's so many 1097 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:44,240 secular Jews in the world wondering this hate. 1098 00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:45,520 What am I supposed to do about it? 1099 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,120 You know, I, they're living a completely directionless life 1100 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,000 because they don't know what direction to go. 1101 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,960 But if they had grounds in their faith and they would at least 1102 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,440 have a direction and they would at least know how to turn to 1103 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,480 their community. And, and so, yeah, I would say, 1104 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,280 I would say all of it not to sound cliche. 1105 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,320 I would say no. I would say pick up a Torah and 1106 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,680 instead of instead of listening for one specific value to live 1107 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,680 by, listen to the the thousands and thousands of them that you 1108 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,280 can find inside of the Torah. So I actually want to add to 1109 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,320 that today I was sitting next to one of my friends who's a 1110 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,000 traditional, not, not a shomer Shabbat guy in our communities, 1111 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,400 Sephardic community. So we have a lot of people who 1112 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,040 don't observe everything, but, you know, in the shul, we are, 1113 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,440 we're all, you know, the same. And he, we were, I was sitting 1114 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,560 next to him and he was reading the, he was just reading the 1115 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,640 parsha and he was like, this is unbelievable. 1116 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,880 You know, I noticed that every time I'm, I'm hearing the Torah 1117 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,760 and I'm, and I'm reading inside he, he's only, he's reading the 1118 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,480 English. He's like, I, I really feel like 1119 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,800 this is speaking out. This is speaking to me about 1120 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,640 what's happening right now in the and you hear that from so 1121 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,200 many people, but I, I experienced it myself. 1122 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,920 I see all the time you're like, wow, this is, this is something 1123 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,160 that, and, and you can, you can take. 1124 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:00,760 It's not just like a cool thing. So I'm like, wow, this is what a 1125 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,400 coincidence. But there's actually like a lot 1126 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,520 of, there's a lot of advice you can take from the Torah and how 1127 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080 to how to respond to what's happening. 1128 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,200 So it's very interesting. It's. 1129 00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:12,440 True. I mean, how many times does it 1130 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,440 say, does it say in the Torah that these words are eternal? 1131 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,440 He doesn't say this. The Torah wasn't written just as 1132 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,760 a message of the people for the people that were alive when it 1133 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,040 was given. It says the words are, are, are, 1134 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,880 are ever living and they'll ring truth throughout all of history. 1135 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,000 So, yeah, it makes sense that he was thinking that. 1136 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,080 I think that when I read it, you know, Yeah. 1137 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:35,280 Yeah, 100%. I understand why he was like 1138 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,320 that. Well, Jacob, we really want to 1139 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,520 thank you for coming on the podcast. 1140 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,120 It was an absolute pleasure. We, we would love to have you on 1141 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,920 again once sometime. Obviously, you, you don't we, 1142 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,360 we, we think that what you're doing, speaking out for our 1143 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,080 people is such a, you know, important thing and we value 1144 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,920 everything that you do. And we hope that many people who 1145 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,160 are not familiar with you know, your work should be turned on to 1146 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,520 it after listening to this podcast. 1147 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,800 So thank you so much. I appreciate it. 1148 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,480 Thank you guys for having me. Keep up the good work and we 1149 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,560 appreciate everything. Thank you. 1150 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,080 Cheto cheto of you too.