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Welcome to fucking Candy Land, 
hosted by Rampage and Gemini. 

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What the fuck is up, everybody? 
Welcome back to Candyland. 

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So we have been talking about 
our special surprise for a 

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little bit of time now and we 
finally have a guest that we 

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both mutually respect and like 
wanted to have on the podcast. 

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So we have the rap guy's wife 
AKA Nicole coming on today and 

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we are so excited. 
How are you doing? 

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I'm good. 
How are y'all? 

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You're good. 
So for those of you that don't 

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know, she is married to little 
white, Mr. Oxycontin, Xanax 

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bars. 
But the thing that we really 

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wanted to bring her on for is 
because she's super spiritual, 

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she's a boss bitch, She runs 
businesses, raises families, and

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she's newly sober. 
So we're going to talk about all

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of this, and I'm going to let 
Jim and I take it away with 

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questions because she has all 
kinds of questions. 

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I did have all kinds of 
questions because we, on a like 

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a really small scale, we're 
finding out that the more that 

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we're starting to do things, the
more there are people around who

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are like, Oh my gosh, I just 
love you so much. 

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And like, I Rep you so hard. 
And it's the people who seem to 

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like, have the most love that 
turn around and do something 

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with that energy and have some 
kind of betrayal. 

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And I for us, we've watched not 
only low white, but we've 

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watched you kind of grow your 
own following and doing your own

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things. 
And we've seen people that we 

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used to watch in your comments 
supporting you now having, you 

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know, sometimes not the same 
energy. 

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And so, like, how does that feel
for you with showing how you are

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authentically and your whole 
person and still sometimes 

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having people come back and have
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you show who you are? 
So I was bullied so much growing

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up. 
So it's kind of just always been

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just like a well, that's how you
feel. 

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Whatever. 
Like I've never been perfect. 

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I come from I'm one of five. 
So being that family with a 

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single mom and five kids, like 
everybody was like kind of 

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always pointing their finger 
like oh like it all the way from

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not having the newest, cleanest 
shoes or name brand clothes to 

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now. 
You know, I've had nursing jobs 

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where they're like, well, you're
made it a little white. 

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How did you pass the drug test 
to get this job? 

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And I'm like, what does that 
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Just cuz he writes about all 
that stuff and raps about it. 

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Doesn't mean I'm over here. 
Just, you know, snorting a line 

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and going to work like this is 
not how that world works. 

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Well, when people rap about 
fucking bitches all the time who

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have never had a fucking hot 
bitch that they've fucked in 

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their whole life. 
Right. 

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Are you from Tennessee? 
Is that where you're from? 

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I'm from, born and raised in 
Memphis, TN. 

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So is that how you all met? 
Because I remember hearing a 

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little bit about y'all Story on 
Bunny's podcast, which was when 

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I originally started following 
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I didn't even know there was a 
Mrs. Little White, but I 

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remembered I'm talking about 
like you worked at a bar and he 

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would kind of just like, come 
into that bar. 

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Is that how you all met? 
Yeah, so I worked on Bill St. 

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for like 10 years and he said I 
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up and just hand him a crown of 
coke. 

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He's like, how'd you know? 
And I'm like, you say it just in

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about like every song. 
Like if you wanted something 

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else, I'd be like, if that's not
what you drink, you might want 

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to switch your lyrics around, 
bro. 

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Like, he's like, no, this is 
awesome. 

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No one's ever just handed me a 
crown of Coke. 

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So love at first sight, then 
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Xanax bars. 
You sang about it in that? 

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Song. 
My favorite thing about this 

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moment is like that nostalgia. 
Like, I heard that song, I was 

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probably 11 years old and it was
like the hit. 

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I mean, that song was 
everywhere. 

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And then really my favorite song
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old. 
So it's like when I look back on

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that and then now we're sitting 
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later, I just feel like, what 
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Because. 
Really anything is possible, but

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so many people limit themselves 
based on who they used to be. 

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And I know that you've been 
making a lot of personal changes

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lately, so can you elaborate on 
kind of what you got going? 

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Yeah, so we had a bunch of stuff
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husband hit a mailbox and has 
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on and this and that. 
So he had court for it and we he

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started going to outpatient 
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And this was way before any 
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what we already had going on at 
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The judge was just like, no, 
this is too much. 

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You need inpatient rehab. 
So he was like, all right, so we

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got him in the program. 
He spent two weeks in jail, 

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which. 
The gentleman, this is horrible.

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So, like, we were all stressed 
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And I got him into a program. 
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just like, you know what? 
If he's not going to drink, I'm 

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not going to drink. 
We're totally fine. 

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It's not a big deal. 
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And then, like, while he was 
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something about to lose my mind.
So I started going to the gym 

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and I joined Hot Works, which is
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obsessed with it. 
But it like, sweats out toxins 

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in your body. 
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like I didn't want any sodas. 
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intentionally give up red meat 
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But like, I would have worked 
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row doing that. 
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of red meat, I got sick. 
So I'm like strictly chicken, 

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vegetables and water and coffee.
So it just kind of keeps flowing

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and my body's happy and I'm 
happy, so. 

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I love that. 
So you used to be a nurse and 

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now you manage the business full
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Yes. 
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which is considered a nurse 
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And when COVID hit, like if one 
nurse got sick and we're already

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short staffed through COVID, 
they would pull us from our 

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assignment. 
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then turn around and get all of 
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like that. 
Advantages. 

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And I got so sick, I thought I 
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something like I couldn't even 
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And I like. 
I woke up at like. 4:00 in the 

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morning. 
And I drove myself to the 

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emergency room like my husband 
called. 

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He was like, where are you at? 
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I was like, I'm at the emergency
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I couldn't wait for you to get 
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Like, I had to go. 
And the Doctor Who looked at me 

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and was like, you're literally 
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There's nothing wrong with you. 
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pain because your body still 
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So we were all my way back from 
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And he went inside a pilot, 
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to stop to take a shit when 
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So he's been there for, like, 
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He comes out and I'm like, here 
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I just did this, this and this 
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just made. 
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I went inside to take a shit and
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what you make in like 3 months 
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When we get home. 
You're quitting your job. 

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Why are you doing that? 
15 minutes sell pictures of your

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feet I. 
Don't know, my feet made made a 

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little more money than booking 
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I got some cute little toes over
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I just booked like 2 shows and 
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like and it was like even some 
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money for features and stuff and
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Starting to go to the bathroom 
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I was like, no, come on, let's 
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He's like, when we get home, 
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coming home. 
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with the kids, I'm like, Mom's 
going back to work. 

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They're like, no, you're not 
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ramen noodles, like you're not 
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Mom, I love that support. 
And also too, there are so many 

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people who wouldn't trust their 
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like management role for them or
like doing their business 

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dealings. 
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you with them then? 
If you wouldn't trust them 

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inside of handling any of your 
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not the partner for you. 
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that foundation where you're 
like, go take a shit, I'll just 

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be in here doing the things with
or without permission and on 

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page talking. 
I call her Polly Pocket by the 

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way. 
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podcast I call her Polly, while 
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page is just so weird to me. 
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thing, I love that like, we grew
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went from it would be so cool to
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no, I want to talk to your wife.
Can I talk to your wife? 

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You know, I feel like with 
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for me and like kind of just 
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family, to her friends, to her 
people, that me and you, Nicole 

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just really bonded. 
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people that I was like, wow, I 
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Like, you're just so genuine and
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genuine. 
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husband grounded, and I honestly
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successful. 
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because you're like super 
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feel like also spontaneous, like
you get shit done and you can 

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see that, like you can tell that
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that's why I was like, I think 
it's so beautiful that you are 

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like building your own. 
Name and like doing your own 

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thing, but then also like 
helping him excel into a better 

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person. 
Because you know, getting sober 

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is really freaking hard. 
And if you have someone who 

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supports that, it's 1000 times 
easier. 

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And I know that, you know, I've 
been on a sobriety journey. 

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And your whole life changes when
you stop distracting yourself 

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with drugs and alcohol and 
partying and whatever. 

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And it's just beautiful when 
people go on to that self love 

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journey. 
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especially just like with your 
post, they're so motivating. 

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And I saw today you're like 75 
days this he's 100 days. 

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And I was like, what a special 
day that we're meeting with you 

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and it's like a milestone for 
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So he's he actually, when we 
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sitting, we were at his house, 
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just start dating and moving 
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But he had a stack of bills, 
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And I was like, what is all 
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He's like, it's my bills. 
And I was like, I was like, 

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well, dude, they're like, all 
past due. 

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He's like, I know. 
I'm working on it. 

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Like it was like, right after he
had all that bad management and 

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this and that. 
And I was like, all right, so I 

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picked him up and I was just 
sitting there like, what are you

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doing? 
I had my phone. 

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I was like, I'm paying your 
bills. 

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He's like, you're what? 
So I was like, well, I mean, 

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how? 
Because he had moved down back 

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into our area for his daughter, 
because he found out some stuff 

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that her Mama was doing and 
thought he was just going to 

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have to, you know, be there. 
And when he got that phone call 

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and I was like, well, what are 
you going to do if the lights 

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are out and you got to go get 
her? 

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I was like, and if you're trying
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the groceries down? 
I was like, it's not a big deal.

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Seriously, don't worry about it.
I got it. 

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So, like, paid, you know, like 
the essential bills form and 

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whatnot. 
And then we were sitting there 

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one night, He was talking about 
a show. 

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And I was like, you know, you 
can give yourself a raise, 

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right? 
He's like, what are you talking 

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about? 
I was like, it's your show. 

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They're booking you. 
Like, if you think they should 

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pay you more than it's your, 
it's your choice, like, increase

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the price of your shows. 
He's like, Oh my God. 

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So, like, like, like, we 
literally started from the 

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beginning of all his stuff for 
him. 

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Like, like Even so much is like 
getting him a bank account. 

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He was just like, I just pay 
cash and I go do this. 

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I'm like, no, no, you don't. 
You get a bank account because 

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when that cash is in your 
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you turn around like so it was 
like. 

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From like building it from the 
ground up for him, which was 

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like what he really, truly 
needed after all the stuff he'd 

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been through before we started 
dating. 

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And I think that's about go 
ahead. 

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Sorry. 
I'm saying I think that's so 

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beautiful because so many people
want that type of connection. 

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I got it. 
And I think I that's why I 

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admire people because you can 
genuinely see that their 

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connection is reciprocal and 
that they support each other and

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like they go to battle for each 
other and it's like we're on the

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same team. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like we're the same team and so 
many people are competing with 

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their partner or kind of put 
their partner on the back 

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burner. 
And I love that you were like, 

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no, this is a priority. 
I'm going to take care of it. 

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And he said he's never had a 
chick do that. 

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He's like, wait, what? 
He's like well, am I It needs to

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be done. 
Like just come on let's go and 

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like. 
But it also took me like just as

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much effort as it took him he 
was because he tried to talk me 

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into leaving work for like 3 
years. 

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He was like just come home. 
I'm like, no dude, like it's 

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your music. 
But when I realized that his 

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music needed more help than and 
I told him I'd never take away 

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from his music career. 
So me being away from work and 

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working so much, it was taken 
away from his music career 

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because I wasn't home in time 
for him to go to the studio or? 

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You know, when I did get home 
and he wanted, you know, to talk

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about music, I'd fall asleep mid
conversation and he's like, I 

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was just, I was trying to do a 
zombie when COVID hits, so 

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everything happens for a reason.
So music is #1 right now for him

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so well, and that's like that 
behind the scenes support too, 

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of doing those things that other
people aren't going to 

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necessarily like be seeing in 
the public, but they are really 

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helping you like support your 
person. 

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And it probably helps to make 
him feel nurtured and 

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comfortable too. 
I don't know what his background

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is with all of that, but I know 
that has to make somebody feel, 

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like, nurtured and safe to know 
that you're stepping in and 

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like, hey, I'm gonna pay these 
bills so that you're able to do 

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these other things that you need
to do for your child. 

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And especially if someone's in a
situation where their kid isn't 

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being taken care of fully by 
another person and they're 

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having to step up somebody else 
coming in and being like, hey, 

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you're not alone with this. 
Like, let me take this burden 

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off of you or let me help you in
this way and that behind the 

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scenes support too. 
I think that a lot of people 

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don't understand how much 
sacrifice I think that you go 

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through to in order to like make
somebody else's dream come true.

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Because while yes, like that's 
your role as a partner like 

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you're being supportive, there 
is also that initiative like 

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self sacrifice of well, this is 
taking a, you know, quitting my 

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job is or quitting your job is 
really taking a piece of like 

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something that you probably 
worked really hard to have that 

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independence for yourself and 
that like identity of I've got 

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me. 
And that's a lot of trust that 

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you put in somebody else too. 
So that's a huge, like growth on

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your own healing and spiritual 
journey to be like, I'm going to

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trust in this person and their 
dream and put to the side 

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something that I worked really 
hard to obtain. 

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Oh, yeah. 
It definitely wasn't the 

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easiest, either. 
I went down to Dark Hole and got

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really depressed because a part 
of me I've always I was a nurse,

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Nicole, like, everybody called 
me. 

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Family members called me. 
Nurses would call me in the 

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middle of the night and be like,
Nicole, what do we do about 

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this? 
And like and everybody knew I 

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was a nurse. 
So I kind of like, for a minute 

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I felt like almost invisible. 
And then it's and it sounds so 

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petty. 
But when I lost my Instagram 

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page, it was like why I went 
from people telling me that I 

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motivate them and I brighten 
their day. 

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And Nurse Nicole's gone. 
And now that page is gone. 

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So it's like, now what am I 
doing? 

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I'm just sitting here. 
It's almost like I sat in the 

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dark. 
So, I mean, even while he's in 

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rehab, I did a lot of soul 
searching myself. 

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And I was like, you know what? 
I'm going to be all right. 

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We're good. 
I feel like your aura has 

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shifted so much since I did that
past life reading for you. 

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And you were like, so much of 
this is making sense right now. 

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And you're like, I showed this 
to my brother or my friend. 

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And they were like, that sounds 
just like you. 

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And I feel like that protective 
spirit that you have, like 

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you've carried that with you in 
so many lifetimes. 

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And I think it's beautiful that 
you can put your sword down and 

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like, let him, you know. 
Take care of you while you also 

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take care of him in a different 
way. 

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And I think that's like what I 
personally want in my life. 

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You know, I see people like 
yourself and and Bunny and Jelly

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and people that are just like 
they go to war for each other 

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and they really support each 
other's dreams. 

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And I think that's so amazing. 
And it's really like rare, you 

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know, in this day and age 
because some people just do shit

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for the Internet and it's not 
reality. 

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But you know, putting putting 
your pride aside and like 

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stepping up in that way, I feel 
like. 

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How do you think that's affected
you as far as, like on a 

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personal level? 
So I think the biggest part that

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in like we both have gone 
through this since making all 

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these changes is as a human we 
never at want to admit we're 

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wrong ever. 
Like we don't ever want to admit

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that. 
And you're not necessarily lying

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to yourself and the public by 
not talking about it. 

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So there's but when you do talk 
about there's a fear of like 

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people and what they did on the 
Internet all the time. 

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They take what you do or say and
they completely twisted it 

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around. 
Like the other day. 

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Me having my new glow and being 
happy was me covering up my face

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because I'm a drug addict and my
face is ate up and I'm just like

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because I'm happy now all of a 
sudden I've like just got crater

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face all over the Internet that 
I'm covering up I mean. 

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I just now learned how to do 
eyeliner like a couple years 

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ago. 
Like really good. 

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Like this is progress for me 
like. 

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You know is that when you made 
the post where you talked about 

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how you've blown up and you've 
learned how to do your makeup 

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and all that. 
Yeah. 

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So yes, between and it was a man
that said that. 

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And then there was all sorts of 
other posts from a certain event

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that happened saying that I'm a 
heroin addict or I've done I'm 

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on drugs and like I shouldn't 
have custody of my kids. 

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Like all sorts of stuff from 
like a 10 second clip and I'm 

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just like. 
And now that I'm doing better, 

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all of a sudden it's it like it.
The Internet is so cruel. 

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Like all these people are the 
biggest bully. 

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So there's a part of me that 
when you do talk about it, 

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you're like, well, am I going to
get rejected? 

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But then I I just realized, you 
know what? 

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I am who I am. 
If they don't like it, there's 

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an unfollow. 
There's a block. 

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In the same way that you. 
It takes you longer to type out 

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a hateful comment than it does 
for me to hit delete and block. 

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So I just finally had to let go 
of that. 

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And anybody, my block list is. 
So I probably got more people 

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blocked than I have followers at
this point. 

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Whenever all of that was cycling
around, I know you were going 

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through some really difficult 
stuff. 

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How do you feel about like when 
people don't know the whole 

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story? 
There's a part of us that wants 

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to justify it, but like, how 
good does it feel to just keep 

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it moving and keep the train 
pushing? 

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Because that's what I feel like 
y'all been doing. 

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It's hard because no, no matter 
how, no matter what you do in 

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life, whether it's good or bad, 
someone's always going to be 

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like, well, that doesn't make 
sense or why did you do this or 

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why did you do that? 
And then if you try to justify 

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things, it just makes people 
that don't know what's going on 

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dig it up. 
So it's like you're creating 

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this giant mountain out of a 
molehill, and it's all you get 

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when one person doesn't like you
and a group of people that don't

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like you. 
The only thing you have in 

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common is still just you. 
So whether it's good or bad, 

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you're still the common 
denominator. 

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So at some point in time you 
just got to figure out does it 

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really matter what they say and 
just keep moving like? 

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My, I never lost any sleep at 
night. 

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It sucked because I I don't ever
want to see people upset. 

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So I'm just like, so the people 
that were upset that didn't 

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deserve to see that I'm like, 
damn, that sucks for them, But 

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we can fix it. 
Everybody else, I'm good. 

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We'll just keep going. 
So it's such a tight line that 

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you have to walk to because you 
are like putting yourself out 

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there publicly and you do want 
to be known and like share 

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yourself and your journey And 
you talk about your sobriety 

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journey and things. 
And then at the same time you 

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also have that, like, well, I 
don't give a fuck what people 

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think, but I'm also trying to 
like what things do I talk about

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and do I share. 
Because it's almost like you 

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have to pick and choose what 
types of things you're willing 

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to have feedback on from other 
people. 

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Because there are like, there 
are, no matter how much we don't

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give a fuck, there are always 
certain topics that we really 

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give a fuck about and like we'll
fight your mother over. 

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And so I know that, like, for 
you being so out there, are 

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there any things that you're 
like when it comes to this? 

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I I don't. 
I don't share these personal 

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things about like my kids or 
whatever. 

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So our kids are all pretty like 
outspoken, like we are the only 

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thing we really don't post. 
We don't post school events. 

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You'll never see our kids 
schools, you won't see addresses

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and stuff we post. 
We're very, very protective 

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about their locations and stuff 
like that. 

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But I will never dog our kids as
other parents on social media. 

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That's not the world's business.
Whether they're 100% with our 

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kids every day or they're 100% 
out the picture. 

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That's not the world's business.
And even if we do post things 

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about our kids and or talk about
our kids, we let them know 

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first. 
They've all four of our kids 

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have been through a lot of stuff
that you wouldn't imagine kids 

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ever go through. 
And so that's been one of our 

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biggest goals since we started 
dating. 

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Like we didn't even let the kids
meet each the other one until 

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we've been together for like 3 
months. 

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And then like it's it was kind 
of a one-on-one meeting. 

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And then like my older son, he 
was 5 and he sat my husband down

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was like, well, what are your 
intentions with my mother at 

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five years old? 
So if you can imagine him saying

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that at 5:00 and then his oldest
daughter, she was 11/12, I think

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she's like 12. 
And she saw a picture of me. 

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She was like, well, are her 
glasses prescription or is she, 

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she's trying to be cool And he 
was like, no, she's totally 

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blind. 
He's like okay, that's fine. 

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I can deal with that. 
So like, they had they all for 

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the kids and made sure the other
one of us was super real before 

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we just kind of joined this 
cluster of the most functioning 

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dysfunctional family ever so. 
I'm obsessed with that. 

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You could be blind. 
You just can't be a poser. 

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When growing up in Tennessee, 
like what was your childhood 

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like? 
I know you said that you're one 

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of five. 
So what did you grow up in a 

446
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,640
like a close knit family or 
were. 

447
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,480
So I'm the oldest girl I have 
older brother than it's me and 

448
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,840
then I had a little sister and 
then we the twins were the 

449
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,640
youngest. 
So it was just my mom, and we 

450
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,200
grew up that regular poor white 
trash family on food stamps. 

451
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,520
And if we missed the bus, we 
probably didn't get to school 

452
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,400
because mom couldn't just drive 
us all over the town and get 

453
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,400
back to work and all that. 
It was a whole neighborhood full

454
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,440
of boys. 
So I've always been like one of 

455
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,520
the homies, like playing 
basketball, and I was usually 

456
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,840
with my older brother who's six 
years older than me. 

457
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:34,000
So I was just always around 
older kids and I probably knew 

458
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,650
way too much way before I should
have, but it was either that or 

459
00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:41,370
hang out with babies. 
So it was I was kind of stuck in

460
00:22:41,370 --> 00:22:44,210
that middle. 
But I always learned how to 

461
00:22:44,210 --> 00:22:45,970
fight. 
I knew how to defend myself. 

462
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:51,450
We got called the worst and my 
maiden name is Di Filippo, so 

463
00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:56,970
that name got made fun of a lot.
So I've always, and then between

464
00:22:56,970 --> 00:23:00,130
me and my brother, when it my 
siblings came up behind us, they

465
00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:02,450
got made fun of a lot. 
So there's a lot of times where 

466
00:23:02,450 --> 00:23:05,090
I, you know, I had to go down to
the bus stop, I'd missed my bus 

467
00:23:05,090 --> 00:23:07,930
and go to their bus stop just to
tell all these little kids like 

468
00:23:07,930 --> 00:23:09,010
they're not the ones to mess 
with. 

469
00:23:09,010 --> 00:23:11,130
So I've always been like a Mama 
figure. 

470
00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:13,170
I guess you could say like with 
it. 

471
00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:17,170
That I get from you is like Mama
bear and that's kind of like, I 

472
00:23:17,170 --> 00:23:18,570
know came through in your 
reading. 

473
00:23:18,810 --> 00:23:20,650
But like you can feel that 
energy. 

474
00:23:20,650 --> 00:23:23,530
Like you can feel that don't 
fuck with me energy coming from 

475
00:23:23,530 --> 00:23:26,090
you. 
Like I feel like if people do 

476
00:23:26,170 --> 00:23:29,530
really get to know you, that you
have such a sweet and like kind 

477
00:23:29,530 --> 00:23:32,210
heart. 
But if you cross that boundary, 

478
00:23:32,210 --> 00:23:34,530
I feel like it's like, no, fuck 
you real quick. 

479
00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:36,970
Oh, my own Mama would tell you 
she's like, ooh Nicole, she's 

480
00:23:36,970 --> 00:23:38,970
like, you're either someone's 
best friend or their worst 

481
00:23:38,970 --> 00:23:41,010
enemy. 
I really hope I never pissed you

482
00:23:41,170 --> 00:23:42,370
up. 
I'm like, thanks Mom. 

483
00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:48,650
I remember watching the 
interview that you did on 

484
00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:52,810
Bunny's podcast and I was 
laughing because. 

485
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,960
You to me, your energy was like,
you were kind of laying back. 

486
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960
You were letting your husband 
kind of have the floor on 

487
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,560
things. 
And I was like, she's just like,

488
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,720
so sweet and like, I don't know,
I got this like, like innocent 

489
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,160
wallflower vibe. 
And then all of a sudden y'all 

490
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,320
started talking about sex and 
he's over here talking about you

491
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,720
riding the big toe and shit. 
And I'm sitting there. 

492
00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:19,770
Bust in the fuck up. 
I couldn't stop laughing. 

493
00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:22,250
And then I was like, I'm 
following her. 

494
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:25,650
We're about to be friends. 
Like, I I have to be on this 

495
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:28,450
shit show ride. 
It was amazing on this big tail 

496
00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:31,450
fun house. 
Yeah, I'm like I can make 

497
00:24:31,530 --> 00:24:35,010
anything dirty like it's he like
that. 

498
00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:38,610
He says that when the old men, 
when they're doing like this, he

499
00:24:38,610 --> 00:24:41,810
said it's because of years of 
just shaking their heads at 

500
00:24:41,810 --> 00:24:44,040
their wives. 
Like, we'll go places. 

501
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,240
He's like, what are you about to
say? 

502
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,680
And I'm like, I don't know. 
This stuff just comes out. 

503
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,120
He was like, whoa, OK, just 
remember where we're at. 

504
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:51,720
And I'm like, you know what? 
You're a little white. 

505
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,240
You're the ratchet one. 
Don't worry about me. 

506
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,720
He's like, Oh no, I am not the 
Ratchet one anymore. 

507
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,680
Whenever you were growing up, 
you said you grew up in Memphis.

508
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,480
Did you know like 3-6 Mafia and 
like, did you know, I mean, 

509
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,240
obviously they're all from that 
area, correct? 

510
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,740
So my freshman year, my, my best
friend, she was talking to a 

511
00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:18,020
dude that lived out in 
Millington, which was like one 

512
00:25:18,020 --> 00:25:19,700
of those areas. 
Like, we're not allowed to drive

513
00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:22,380
that far. 
It was like 45 minutes from like

514
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:25,060
basically civilization because 
it was still like the country 

515
00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:26,620
out there. 
So he snuck out one night, she 

516
00:25:26,620 --> 00:25:29,460
was talking to this dude and he 
was like, you should listen to 

517
00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:31,740
this mixtape. 
And he played, I was like, who 

518
00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:33,500
is this? 
And they say it was the group 

519
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,220
that he was with before we got 
signed. 

520
00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:37,460
And I was like, there's no way 
that's a white dude. 

521
00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:40,460
He's like, it totally is. 
Like there's there's no way like

522
00:25:41,150 --> 00:25:44,430
like I listen to every, I've 
heard every Memphis artist, 

523
00:25:44,430 --> 00:25:46,310
like, you know my older brother,
six years older. 

524
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:49,270
So I've been riding around with 
him doing Donuts in the parking 

525
00:25:49,270 --> 00:25:50,910
lots and shit listening to Three
6 Mafia. 

526
00:25:50,910 --> 00:25:54,230
So I'm like that that's not a 
white dude he's and so when the 

527
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:56,550
CD came out, he had called my 
friend and was like y'all need 

528
00:25:56,550 --> 00:25:59,750
to go get the CD. 
So we actually probably like one

529
00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:01,790
of the two times I've skipped 
school. 

530
00:26:02,350 --> 00:26:05,830
We skipped school when got his 
CD the day dropped and went to 

531
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:09,240
Wendy's and got the two Junior 
Bacon cheeseburgers and two 

532
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,360
waters for $2.06 that we stole 
out of her mom's change jar and 

533
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,840
just drove around the city 
listening to his CD. 

534
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,720
The day dropped so like it's 
literally been since day one. 

535
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960
I've been a fan and I would have
never thought he'd walked up to 

536
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,760
my bar. 
Then 8 1/2 years later, here we 

537
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,640
are. 
I love that you had it down to 

538
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,630
the six fucking cents we had. 
We robbed her mom's change jar 

539
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:36,830
so many times. 
Like there was when a dollar 

540
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:40,510
mini was actually a dollar mini.
Like we knew exactly how much 

541
00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:42,230
change we needed. 
And then they didn't charge for 

542
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:43,910
waters back then. 
So we were like, all right, we 

543
00:26:43,910 --> 00:26:45,070
got this. 
We don't need lunch. 

544
00:26:45,070 --> 00:26:46,150
We can go. 
We can get this. 

545
00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:51,790
So when you were in school, were
you like you were attentive in 

546
00:26:51,790 --> 00:26:54,390
school and you were good in 
school or did you like kind of 

547
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:57,030
rebel during school? 
Or was like, I feel like you're 

548
00:26:57,030 --> 00:27:00,150
smart if you went on to be a 
nurse that you you had to have 

549
00:27:00,150 --> 00:27:03,580
some book smart. 
So I was a straight A student 

550
00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:08,940
and I missed my sophomore year. 
I missed like a month. 

551
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:10,660
I missed like three straight 
weeks. 

552
00:27:11,060 --> 00:27:15,260
I had, I got a spider bite my 
leg that almost killed me. 

553
00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:18,940
So I missed a week from that. 
I had a really bad ear infection

554
00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:21,180
and I missed a week from that. 
And then my mom had her 

555
00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:25,060
hysterectomy and I was the the 
oldest one at the house that 

556
00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:28,120
they don't take care of her. 
So we went to, they sent us to 

557
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,720
truancy court. 
And I've been asking my mom, I'm

558
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,120
like, well, just put me in 
gateway, just let me homeschool 

559
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,000
myself. 
And I went and got a job and I 

560
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,680
paid for it and everything. 
We went to truancy court and 

561
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,720
they told my mom I was going to 
end up just like my older 

562
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,920
brother. 
And she was like, oh, no, Sir, 

563
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,760
you know what? 
She's not. 

564
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,120
She's like, I'm not doing this. 
So she pulled me out of public 

565
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,760
schools and I did the homeschool
thing and I graduated with the 

566
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,160
4.0 at the age of 15. 
Wow. 

567
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,520
So I graduated 10th, 11th and 
12th grade in one year. 

568
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,000
Did you go on to college early 
or did you take some time off 

569
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,040
and work? 
No, I went straight into 

570
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,680
college. 
My dad was like, no, if you take

571
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,840
a break, you're never going to 
go. 

572
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,480
And I was just, it was like the 
one thing in my entire life that

573
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,240
he's ever been a part of. 
He's like, I'll pay for your 

574
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,040
first semester. 
I was like, OK, so I went to 

575
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,400
little Community College and I 
did that, and then I made it. 

576
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,840
I couldn't go straight to the 
nursing program because you had 

577
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,690
to be 18 years old because you 
deal with so many machines and 

578
00:28:25,690 --> 00:28:28,010
stuff. 
And I so they put me on the 

579
00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:31,850
waiting list because of my age. 
I had like the top score as far 

580
00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:34,770
as the applications. 
But I wasn't old enough to be on

581
00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:38,010
the actual floor. 
I was like, well, So what I do 

582
00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:39,970
for two years. 
So I took a bunch of electives. 

583
00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:42,890
I took every psychology class 
you can think of. 

584
00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:45,770
I took every business management
class you could think of, which 

585
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:47,970
is now helping me today, which I
had no idea why. 

586
00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:50,050
I was just like, so we'll just 
learn all this. 

587
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:52,280
So I did a bunch of extra 
classes. 

588
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,680
That was one of them. 
I'm just, I'm such a cheap ass. 

589
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,160
I was like, how many hours can I
take? 

590
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240
I was like, alright, we're going
to use all of them. 

591
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,480
We're going to pay for this 
semester. 

592
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,880
We're using up every hour 
possible. 

593
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,560
So I took all sorts of extra 
classes for two years until I 

594
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:12,080
could start a nursing school. 
You did that at 15, my mom had 

595
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080
to drive. 
My mom had to drive me to my 

596
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,080
first day of college and then 
take me to get my driver's 

597
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,040
license on my 16th birthday. 
So that's a super overachiever 

598
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,800
from someone that grew up in a 
poor, like single household. 

599
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,720
I feel like that's like an 
anomaly and also adds back to 

600
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,880
like how grounded you are. 
You get shit done. 

601
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,040
And I feel like when your mind 
is set on something, you're 

602
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,200
going to make that happen. 
And you can see that in like 

603
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,680
just your post and like the 
energy that you bring into the 

604
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,600
world, like, you can really tell
like. 

605
00:29:47,470 --> 00:29:50,590
I've got a plan and I know what 
to do and I'm gonna figure it 

606
00:29:50,590 --> 00:29:51,790
out. 
And I love that. 

607
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:55,750
I admire women like that because
a lot of women compete with each

608
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:59,470
other and they don't want to see
other women win and whatever. 

609
00:29:59,470 --> 00:30:02,590
And that's why I like whenever 
Bunny introduced us, I was like,

610
00:30:02,590 --> 00:30:05,350
oh, I really like this girl. 
I was like, she is like a 

611
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:07,110
writer. 
You can tell that you're like a 

612
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:08,590
ride or die that you're not 
like. 

613
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,200
One of those flaky, phony people
that just kind of like latch on 

614
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,520
to the people doing the work. 
I feel like you're ready to, 

615
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360
like, get your hands dirty and 
like, do what you got to do to 

616
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,240
get where you want to be. 
So what is the biggest challenge

617
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,000
that you're finding now? 
Managing your husband's music 

618
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,960
career, Getting him to the 
studio? 

619
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:36,160
Here's the problem he So a lot 
of people don't will. 

620
00:30:37,180 --> 00:30:38,660
I think all artists are like 
this. 

621
00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:41,740
They're So what they wanna do, 
what they wanna do when they 

622
00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:44,820
wanna do it. 
And my husband's just like any 

623
00:30:44,820 --> 00:30:48,500
other husband and artist where 
I've got to make it like it's 

624
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:52,900
his idea and kind of twist it 
around. 

625
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,250
So like, but I've we've been 
together so long now like I know

626
00:30:56,250 --> 00:30:59,090
exactly how he'll respond to 
questions like even when I reply

627
00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:01,890
back to emails or messages he 
like, babe, did I write this? 

628
00:31:02,050 --> 00:31:02,810
I'm like, no. 
I did. 

629
00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:04,770
He's like oh it sounds like me I
was like I know but you were 

630
00:31:04,770 --> 00:31:08,050
busy and this you know person 
has this question so technically

631
00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:11,130
it's still him replying. 
It's just me putting his words 

632
00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:14,090
out for him. 
But I figured out like, if he 

633
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:16,610
wakes up and then when he wakes 
up, I can tell kind of Moody's 

634
00:31:16,610 --> 00:31:19,330
in. 
So like, it's like a almost like

635
00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:23,190
a like a giant puzzle every day.
Like if he's not in the mood to 

636
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:25,310
do it, then we're not going to 
answer that question today. 

637
00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:32,070
She's ever laughing at me. 
So whenever you reply back and 

638
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:35,590
and you're handling emails and 
things like that, do you have a 

639
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:39,470
challenge with people like doing
what they say they're going to 

640
00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:40,950
do? 
Because, like what I'm finding 

641
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:43,950
in business is that a lot of 
people want to collaborate, or 

642
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:46,350
they want to hype you up, or 
they want to be a part of what 

643
00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:49,590
you've already created, but they
don't want to do any of the work

644
00:31:49,670 --> 00:31:51,230
and that's. 
That's what we're finding. 

645
00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:54,030
It's like, especially with 
guests, we didn't really want 

646
00:31:54,030 --> 00:31:58,550
any more guests because they 
seem like, very egocentric and 

647
00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:01,710
weird when once we get them on 
the podcast, like they're not 

648
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:04,870
who they show the world. 
And I was like, Oh no, Nicole, 

649
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:08,510
like we need her on there. 
And the craziest part about it 

650
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:12,030
was you lost your page. 
We had already been following 

651
00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:14,460
you. 
When your page came back, I had 

652
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:18,220
unfollowed everyone on our 
podcast page just to like, you 

653
00:32:18,220 --> 00:32:20,980
know, declutter it. 
And then it was like showing 

654
00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:23,900
that we were following three 
people and you were one of them.

655
00:32:24,220 --> 00:32:27,500
And I was like this is a sign 
because I had already mentioned.

656
00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:31,340
Maybe having you on the podcast 
in the future, but it was like 

657
00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:34,060
we were on a break from season 2
to season three. 

658
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:37,900
And it's just so ironic that, 
like, it's season three and you 

659
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:40,340
are our third person that we 
were following. 

660
00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:43,300
But we just find that, like when
collaborating with certain 

661
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:46,580
people, they don't bring the 
same energy that they have in 

662
00:32:46,580 --> 00:32:49,220
the beginning. 
Oh yeah, it happens all the 

663
00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:50,660
time. 
So it's like when we have other 

664
00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:54,560
artists that want to do songs 
and stuff with him, or even even

665
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,320
any anything we do, people go 
from like just meeting us. 

666
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,720
And then all of a sudden we're 
family, which we love everybody.

667
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,760
But then they start stretching 
it and taking it further. 

668
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,160
And then a lot of people, I gave
out my personal number just so 

669
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,000
they know for sure that like, 
like I can FaceTime them for my 

670
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,800
number versus the business 
number we have. 

671
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760
And like, look, this is the 
White's wife, his manager, he's 

672
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,290
right here. 
A lot of people have lately been

673
00:33:22,290 --> 00:33:24,450
saying that their wife is their 
manager, too. 

674
00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:28,810
And I'm like, maybe at home, but
like, I'm running a whole 

675
00:33:28,810 --> 00:33:31,010
business. 
We have a music label and we 

676
00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:33,930
have like all sorts of stuff 
going on. 

677
00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:36,250
I was like, but it just, it 
makes it weird when they 

678
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:37,810
instantly want to throw that out
there. 

679
00:33:37,810 --> 00:33:42,090
I'm just like, OK, So what do 
you want me to do with that? 

680
00:33:42,090 --> 00:33:43,930
Like, I've been talking to you 
the whole time and all of a 

681
00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:46,010
sudden that we're close. 
You want me to talk to your wife

682
00:33:46,010 --> 00:33:50,240
slash manager, like, so it a lot
of people get really weird and 

683
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,680
you just kind of have to just 
keep moving forward and be like,

684
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,840
all right, so here's your stuff.
We'll see you on this day and 

685
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,640
this is what we're doing and 
just kind of, I guess you'd say 

686
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,120
brush it off respectfully. 
It's like the easiest way I 

687
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,440
could say of how I get through 
all that. 

688
00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:08,300
I feel like it's that 
competition energy too, where 

689
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:11,340
it's like, Oh well, if he's got 
a wife that's doing boss bitch 

690
00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:14,100
shit, I got to have a wife 
that's doing boss bitch shit. 

691
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,500
And she's probably sitting there
in her Elmo fucking slippers, 

692
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,699
not doing Jack shit, attaching 
her own belly button. 

693
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:23,980
And you know, people, people 
really will be like we've 

694
00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:25,940
encountered. 
People will be so different. 

695
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:29,300
And you'll see them like on 
social media or even like, we'll

696
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,940
have a conversation with 
somebody and then we'll sit down

697
00:34:31,940 --> 00:34:35,179
to actually, like, start talking
to them and you'll press record.

698
00:34:35,739 --> 00:34:38,580
And all of a sudden you're like,
who the fuck is this? 

699
00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:42,820
Like we had, we've talked about 
it before, like we never named 

700
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:45,900
drop or anything like that. 
But we have this one person who 

701
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:50,460
had like millions of followers 
and shows up on social media and

702
00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:53,820
is like just this boss ass bitch
and we're like, Oh my gosh, like

703
00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:58,150
this is going to be so exciting.
And when we went to record, she 

704
00:34:58,150 --> 00:35:03,110
showed up inside of a car with 
like, only the thing lit on the 

705
00:35:03,110 --> 00:35:07,550
top of the ceiling and was like,
distracted the entire time and 

706
00:35:07,550 --> 00:35:10,510
kept arguing with Paige. 
Every time Paige would say 

707
00:35:10,510 --> 00:35:13,630
something, she's like, well, I 
don't agree with that and would 

708
00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:16,230
start going to the point that I 
was like, why the fuck are you 

709
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:17,550
here? 
You're fucking odd. 

710
00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:19,310
I don't even know. 
You could argue with Paige. 

711
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:23,030
Like, wait, what? 
You can do that. 

712
00:35:23,890 --> 00:35:25,450
She would literally just have an
opinion. 

713
00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:27,890
She would be like, this is what 
I think about the spiritual 

714
00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:29,890
realm. 
And she would be like, oh, that 

715
00:35:29,890 --> 00:35:33,370
is wrong, Absolutely not. 
This is spreading hateful speech

716
00:35:33,370 --> 00:35:38,820
and I'm like, go fuck yourself. 
Know what I said to her, but she

717
00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:43,620
flipped her shit and I told 
Gemini afterwards I was like she

718
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:45,980
totally was like either on 
drugs. 

719
00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:50,100
Like she had just hit a chicken 
bone like prior to that's why 

720
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:52,500
she was in her car. 
But it was the weirdest thing 

721
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,380
because this girl had like 3 
million tick tock followers. 

722
00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:59,500
Shows up so whimsical and sweet 
and just very nice. 

723
00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:03,020
But then on the podcast with us,
we never even aired it. 

724
00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:06,820
She was like a raging bitch. 
And it was the weirdest thing. 

725
00:36:06,820 --> 00:36:11,580
And I know that anytime that you
have some type of notoriety or a

726
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:14,780
platform or whatever, people 
always want to project their 

727
00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:17,860
bullshit onto you. 
And that's why I like having 

728
00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:20,020
guests turned into like, a 
hassle. 

729
00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:23,660
Because people just treat their 
platform one way. 

730
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:26,420
And then we would have them on 
our podcast, They wouldn't 

731
00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:27,820
promote it. 
They wouldn't talk about it. 

732
00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:31,270
They wouldn't even tell like. 
We're not asking people to make 

733
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:33,590
a freaking sign and tell 
everyone that you were on the 

734
00:36:33,590 --> 00:36:37,470
podcast, but to like, treat our 
platform with no respect. 

735
00:36:37,470 --> 00:36:39,590
It was like, that is the 
weirdest shit. 

736
00:36:39,590 --> 00:36:43,110
We are not airing this at all, 
so y'all don't want me to go 

737
00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:45,430
stand on at 40 with a sign that 
says. 

738
00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:49,670
I do want you to do that, and I 
want pictures and video. 

739
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:52,990
I'm going to show the girls 
while you do it because those 

740
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:54,670
pictures you took were looking 
hot. 

741
00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:57,270
I'm getting pictures. 
You search movies. 

742
00:36:57,430 --> 00:37:01,400
Or what she just I'm just 
getting more comfortable with 

743
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,440
showing them now because like I 
said, I've just and it's 

744
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,000
something that's like not like 
being his eye candy. 

745
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,040
I guess there's arm candy or 
what not. 

746
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,480
I've done security, I've D Jed, 
I've hyped me and I'm the 

747
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,920
driver. 
I pack our bags, I do the 

748
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,080
routing for everything where we 
stop, like where we like all of 

749
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,040
it. 
He does find the restaurants, so

750
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,520
that is his job. 
He's got to find restaurants 

751
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,720
around the road. 
But I've literally at shows, 

752
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,600
I've gone from just talking to 
the promoter to them being like 

753
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:34,320
a crazy fan walking up to him. 
And I've had the throat punch a 

754
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,040
bitch before. 
And then I just go right back to

755
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,800
manager mode. 
Then everybody's like, how do 

756
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,240
you do that? 
And I'm like, well, she's out 

757
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,840
the way, come on, we got to keep
doing what we're doing. 

758
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,520
So, like, it's like, I hop 
through like hopscotch in the 

759
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,360
different roles. 
Like throughout shows, it's 

760
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,840
like, and I don't even think 
about it. 

761
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,080
My husband's like, are you good?
And I'm like, I'm fine. 

762
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,640
What's up? 
What are we going to eat when we

763
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,040
leave the show? 
She's like, so. 

764
00:37:56,970 --> 00:37:59,050
She's trying to find dinner 
after she just throat punched a 

765
00:37:59,050 --> 00:38:00,970
bitch and everybody's like 
needing a minute to collect 

766
00:38:00,970 --> 00:38:02,650
themselves and she's like, I'm 
fucking hungry. 

767
00:38:05,610 --> 00:38:09,530
What do you think is the most 
exciting thing about working for

768
00:38:09,530 --> 00:38:12,490
yourself and being able to set 
your own schedules and kind of 

769
00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:15,570
like have that collaborative 
partnership with him? 

770
00:38:16,690 --> 00:38:21,920
It's like so like when I go into
work mode, he'll usually kind of

771
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,840
that's when he kind of goes into
his phone and listen to beats 

772
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,600
and like we so we both kind of 
clock in and clock out together.

773
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,240
So on the flip side, it's 
literally like living every day 

774
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,120
with your best friend. 
Like all of it. 

775
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,480
Like we get up, like we love 
playing pool now and he's kind 

776
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,960
of mad that I've gotten really 
good at pool. 

777
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,800
So like, I don't know what to 
tell him. 

778
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,520
I was like, I'm quick learning, 
but we'll go play pool or we'll 

779
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,420
like, we'll find a new place for
lunch to go try it or we'll 

780
00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:53,060
like, we'll find new movies like
we're like movie and like TV 

781
00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:57,180
like whores, like we watch 
everything like and then we like

782
00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:59,220
binge watch stuff. 
So we might have three days at 

783
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:01,820
home on the couch or we just 
watch the entire series and it's

784
00:39:01,820 --> 00:39:05,380
like the most fun for us. 
And like, if I can't make him 

785
00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:08,660
laugh at least 9000 times a day,
I'm probably doing something 

786
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:11,860
wrong with that day. 
What kind of movies and shows do

787
00:39:11,860 --> 00:39:15,100
you guys watch together? 
All of them. 

788
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:21,250
We both love horror movies. 
He actually has a whole sleeve 

789
00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:23,530
of horror movies. 
And that was like, one of my 

790
00:39:23,690 --> 00:39:26,010
tests, I guess you could say. 
And he was like, can you name 

791
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:28,890
all these horror movies? 
I'm like, are you joking right 

792
00:39:28,890 --> 00:39:30,650
now? 
And like, I went down through 

793
00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:32,850
every single horror movie he's 
got tatted on his arm. 

794
00:39:32,850 --> 00:39:34,330
He's like, no one's ever done 
that. 

795
00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:36,930
I'm like, well, who the hell 
have you asked to do that? 

796
00:39:36,930 --> 00:39:39,490
It's like, the easiest thing 
I've ever done. 

797
00:39:39,490 --> 00:39:41,530
He was like, well, apparently 
I've dated some dumb bitches. 

798
00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:47,260
And I'm like clearly because 
like pretty like poltergeist and

799
00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:48,620
some girl said that was the 
ring. 

800
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:51,500
And I'm like there's First off 
the differences is 1 girl's 

801
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,460
coming out the TV and one's 
going into it. 

802
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:57,540
So that's completely unnecessary
to miss in that question. 

803
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:01,060
I'm just imagining the pickup 
line and him just like throwing 

804
00:40:01,060 --> 00:40:03,660
his arm down at the bar and 
being like, hey, can you, you 

805
00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:07,700
know who these guys are? 
Well, his pickup line was sushi 

806
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:10,740
on a Wednesday. 
Well, first he, well, he came 

807
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:13,660
into my bar and he was like, so 
Nicole, when are you going to be

808
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:16,580
single? 
And a friend of ours yell. 

809
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:18,900
He was behind the bar helping me
and the other bartender. 

810
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:21,780
And he was like, she's gone 
through a divorce right now. 

811
00:40:21,780 --> 00:40:23,860
And I looked at him. 
I'm like, really, bro, I'm up 

812
00:40:23,860 --> 00:40:26,540
here just trying to be a little 
hoe and enjoy this like, single 

813
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:29,100
mom life and like, just go get 
what I want and go back home, 

814
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,300
you know? 
And he was like, oh, really? 

815
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:34,060
He's like, so not, what are you 
doing when you get off? 

816
00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:36,020
He's like, what about sushi on a
Wednesday? 

817
00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:39,900
I was like, I'll think about it.
He's like, OK, so he leaves and 

818
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:41,980
he comes back and he's like, all
right. 

819
00:40:41,980 --> 00:40:44,540
He asked me like 3 times and 
finally I was like, all right, 

820
00:40:44,860 --> 00:40:47,500
one sushi date. 
And I pinky promised him. 

821
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:49,180
And he, like, he didn't know I 
had kids. 

822
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:51,660
And I didn't really know he had 
kids. 

823
00:40:51,860 --> 00:40:53,780
And so we pinky promise. 
He's like, you know, you can't 

824
00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:55,860
break a pinky promise. 
I was like, oh, I know those 

825
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:59,020
things are sacred. 
And so we pinky promised on it. 

826
00:40:59,060 --> 00:41:02,660
And then he that night, he ended
up losing his his car keys or 

827
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:04,180
something. 
And they get homes like super 

828
00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:07,180
late. 
And I was like, what do I text 

829
00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:10,430
him like? 
And so I just text him. 

830
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:11,670
I was like, I made a pinky 
promise. 

831
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:15,390
And so we went our sushi date. 
And that's I think I've given 

832
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:16,830
him way more than one sushi 
date. 

833
00:41:18,070 --> 00:41:21,150
Sushi's my favorite, and if 
anybody says that to me, I'm 

834
00:41:21,150 --> 00:41:23,350
coming. 
I'm going to go with you for the

835
00:41:23,350 --> 00:41:27,030
sushi day. 
So what you bartended? 

836
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:30,030
Were you nursing and bartending?
Yes. 

837
00:41:30,030 --> 00:41:33,910
I used to nurse Monday through 
Friday, and then I bartended 

838
00:41:33,910 --> 00:41:36,230
Thursday night, Friday night, 
Saturday night, and Sunday 

839
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:40,010
night, and I nursed. 
I was a nurse from 7:00 to 3:00 

840
00:41:41,010 --> 00:41:43,530
or like 8 to 4 doing wound care.
I could kind of as long as I was

841
00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:45,730
there in the morning. 
And in my 8 hours I was good. 

842
00:41:45,730 --> 00:41:49,730
So bartending was from like 9:00
PM till 5:00 AM. 

843
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:53,850
So Thursday night, all the way 
through Saturday morning, I was 

844
00:41:53,850 --> 00:41:55,930
pretty much awake for like 2 
days straight. 

845
00:41:56,610 --> 00:41:59,290
And then I'd sleep all day, 
Saturday and Sunday, and then I 

846
00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:01,810
go to work Sunday night and stay
awake all the way through my 

847
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:05,570
Monday shift. 
So it was just like and I don't 

848
00:42:05,570 --> 00:42:07,130
know how I did it. 
And I look back now I'm like, I 

849
00:42:07,130 --> 00:42:10,570
can barely stay up past 11:00. 
How did I do three days a week, 

850
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:13,690
just no sleep? 
Did you have a good support 

851
00:42:13,690 --> 00:42:17,410
system as a mom for getting help
with your kids and stuff while 

852
00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:23,010
you were working that hard? 
So my mom, my mom's been 

853
00:42:23,010 --> 00:42:24,050
awesome. 
She's always helped with the 

854
00:42:24,050 --> 00:42:27,250
boys. 
The my younger one's dad is the 

855
00:42:27,250 --> 00:42:30,010
one I was with when I was doing,
being, doing nursing and 

856
00:42:30,010 --> 00:42:34,340
barsending. 
He had gotten a day job, but if 

857
00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:37,540
one of the kids got sick, he 
couldn't take off work. 

858
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:41,260
So I had to take off work and 
his check was only coming out to

859
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:43,780
basically what daycare was. 
So I was like, dude, just stay 

860
00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:46,060
home. 
I was like, it's really costing 

861
00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:48,220
us money now because if I got to
take off work, take care of the 

862
00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:51,940
kids because they're sick and 
for daycare, and then if your 

863
00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:54,420
check is just covering daycare 
and your lunches and really 

864
00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:56,100
you're just getting up and going
to work for no reason. 

865
00:42:56,740 --> 00:42:59,260
So him like just kind of 
accepting the fact that like 

866
00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:02,650
just go sit over there to take 
care of the kids while I go do. 

867
00:43:02,650 --> 00:43:07,050
This was pretty much kind of how
it was for like the year and a 

868
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:12,250
half I was with him. 
So you were only married for a 

869
00:43:12,250 --> 00:43:14,450
year and a half? 
I don't even think we were 

870
00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:16,170
married a year and a half a 
year. 

871
00:43:17,290 --> 00:43:19,570
So it just didn't work and you 
just kind of knew it wasn't 

872
00:43:19,570 --> 00:43:21,370
working well. 
I mean, we have. 

873
00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:24,870
To get with low white, yeah, I 
mean there's a bunch of things 

874
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:28,350
that came along the way, but we 
are at a good place now and we 

875
00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:30,430
have a kid together and he knows
like, that's number one 

876
00:43:30,430 --> 00:43:32,910
priority. 
So and of course it worked out 

877
00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:36,070
for the better because I like 
have my like twin flame with me 

878
00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:37,830
now. 
So and we're like super happy 

879
00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:41,190
and living my best life with my 
best friend every day, so. 

880
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:45,110
So I want to touch on. 
I know. 

881
00:43:45,350 --> 00:43:46,990
Little White strapping a new 
album. 

882
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:49,950
Yep. 
And I know that you've been 

883
00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:52,870
talking about like. 
He needs to finish this album, 

884
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:55,830
he needs to go to the studio, he
tell him to drop the album. 

885
00:43:56,070 --> 00:43:58,870
So is that something that's 
already ready to go or there's 

886
00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:02,630
still more things to do on it? 
So the entire album was done, 

887
00:44:03,590 --> 00:44:07,590
they just got to get it mastered
so that it sounds amazing, 

888
00:44:07,590 --> 00:44:10,550
Everybody's system and on their 
base and all that cool stuff 

889
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:14,630
that everybody loves about new 
music, but other than that, it's

890
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:17,510
all they're waiting on. 
All the songs are done. 

891
00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:20,700
Has to sound good, like all 
those people. 

892
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:23,500
Like with that new music. 
Yeah he was playing one in the 

893
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:25,180
car earlier. 
I was like, I feel like my chest

894
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:27,860
was being sucked into the back 
seat and he was like good. 

895
00:44:27,860 --> 00:44:31,020
That's what we want. 
And I'm like, well, OK, next 

896
00:44:31,020 --> 00:44:34,380
song can we go suck and breathe.
So but there's some it's a 

897
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:36,500
everybody's going to love the 
album. 

898
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:40,820
It's so awesome and they've 
they've really taken their time 

899
00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:43,900
on it and it's something that 
both him and Just In Time have 

900
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:46,500
truly enjoyed doing. 
The whole process. 

901
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:49,380
Like the two of them working 
together in the studio, they're 

902
00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:52,940
actually, they remind me a lot 
of white and Jelly working 

903
00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:55,020
together when they did. 
No filter, no filter too. 

904
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:59,660
They just kind of really play 
off of each other and there's 

905
00:44:59,660 --> 00:45:04,020
like it's just a cool, super 
smooth like awesome vibe they 

906
00:45:04,020 --> 00:45:05,980
have when they're together. 
So I'm like as long as y'all are

907
00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:10,780
happy, just record what you can 
do and however y'all want to do 

908
00:45:10,780 --> 00:45:12,460
it and it's turned into an 
awesome album. 

909
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:17,130
I feel like White does really 
well with collaborations because

910
00:45:17,130 --> 00:45:20,690
no filter one is my favorite, 
but I really feel like he does 

911
00:45:20,690 --> 00:45:23,610
well with that collaborative 
energy and that's probably why 

912
00:45:23,610 --> 00:45:25,980
YouTube work. 
In such a collaborative way, 

913
00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:29,220
Because when people are good at 
collaborating, you just get 

914
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:31,380
further. 
When you have your dream team 

915
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,820
and you have people like Gemini 
and myself, like we literally 

916
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:38,980
met because she found me from 
Bunny's podcast. 

917
00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:42,060
Like, that's How I Met Gemini. 
So I was like, the one thing 

918
00:45:42,060 --> 00:45:45,380
that I have in common with both 
of you is that Bunny brought 

919
00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:48,980
both of you into my life. 
And it's just such a 

920
00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:53,020
synchronistic event when you can
find people who genuinely 

921
00:45:53,020 --> 00:45:56,500
support your dreams and can. 
Build those dreams together 

922
00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:59,620
well, that people with positive 
vibes attract people with 

923
00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:01,900
positive vibes. 
And if bunny's not a positive 

924
00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:04,420
vibe, like I don't know what 
you're looking for cuz I think 

925
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:06,940
if you look up positive vibes in
the dictionary, her pictures 

926
00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:10,460
like right there. 
So she's all, she's one of the 

927
00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:15,180
biggest building positivity and 
like motivational person that 

928
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:17,620
I've ever met. 
And it takes a lot for me to 

929
00:46:17,620 --> 00:46:18,820
just really be like, you know 
what? 

930
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,880
They are doing their thing. 
They're super motivational. 

931
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,880
And Bunny's literally been the 
exact same person from day one 

932
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,600
when I met her. 
And even just when Jelly first 

933
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,720
told us about her and that he 
was like, I'm going to marry 

934
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:35,200
her, you could just The look he 
had in his eyes on that day is 

935
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,400
the same look he has today when 
he looks at her. 

936
00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:41,650
It's such a beautiful love 
story. 

937
00:46:41,650 --> 00:46:45,250
It gives me code chills because 
if anybody really knows them on 

938
00:46:45,250 --> 00:46:48,250
a personal level, like it 
doesn't matter what the Internet

939
00:46:48,250 --> 00:46:51,490
says or what people think about 
their relationship like, it is 

940
00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:54,690
so genuine. 
And almost every time I do 

941
00:46:54,690 --> 00:46:57,610
readings for her, she's always 
like, how's Jay? 

942
00:46:57,610 --> 00:46:59,850
What's Jay doing? 
What can we talk about him like?

943
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:01,210
She always wants to talk about 
him. 

944
00:47:01,210 --> 00:47:05,690
And I actually back in December 
of last year predicted that he 

945
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:08,970
would win like two or three 
awards this year that they 

946
00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:11,970
didn't see coming. 
So when he went to the CMA's and

947
00:47:11,970 --> 00:47:15,770
like won those awards, I was 
like, holy shit, Like, that's so

948
00:47:15,770 --> 00:47:20,570
crazy that I predicted that. 
Like, you know, I we always talk

949
00:47:20,570 --> 00:47:23,370
about like how some people do 
things for clout and some people

950
00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:27,290
do things genuinely, And I've 
just always, genuinely had a 

951
00:47:27,290 --> 00:47:31,010
deep connection with her. 
So to see them kind of skyrocket

952
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:34,610
into this public eye, it's so 
beautiful because you can just 

953
00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:36,770
know that they're not going to 
switch up. 

954
00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:38,930
You know what I mean? 
Like who they are is who they 

955
00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:39,890
are. 
And I. 

956
00:47:40,090 --> 00:47:44,690
Love how they both bring in so 
many people and like, promote 

957
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:47,650
them and talk about them and 
just really help other people 

958
00:47:47,650 --> 00:47:50,370
get off the ground. 
It's like you don't find many 

959
00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:52,490
people like that in any 
industry. 

960
00:47:53,370 --> 00:47:56,930
No, we just got back from the 
four shows that 36 open for 

961
00:47:56,930 --> 00:48:02,690
Jelly and when I can honestly 
first hand tell you that Bunny 

962
00:48:02,690 --> 00:48:05,690
and Jelly are still the same 
Bunny and Jelly that you would 

963
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:09,580
have seen on the Internet five, 
6-7 years ago as they are. 

964
00:48:09,580 --> 00:48:13,540
When you still see them in that 
show, there's just a huge 

965
00:48:13,540 --> 00:48:17,820
production team and fire on 
stage and louder music and new 

966
00:48:17,820 --> 00:48:18,940
songs. 
That's the only thing that's 

967
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:21,500
changed. 
They are still 100% the same to 

968
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:23,820
the people that I've known since
meeting both of them. 

969
00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:28,970
There was somebody who, because 
you know Bunny does stuff behind

970
00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:31,330
the scenes all the time, but 
she'll she'll never like 

971
00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:34,330
publicly say I helped with this 
or I did this for somebody or 

972
00:48:34,330 --> 00:48:37,050
whatever. 
But somebody was inside of her 

973
00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:41,330
Facebook section a couple of 
months ago and they posted a go 

974
00:48:41,330 --> 00:48:43,570
fund me. 
And they were like, you know, I 

975
00:48:43,570 --> 00:48:45,770
I don't know what health 
condition they had, but they had

976
00:48:45,770 --> 00:48:49,450
something going on and they were
just talking about it in the 

977
00:48:49,450 --> 00:48:51,170
comments. 
But they weren't asking her for 

978
00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:53,650
help on anything. 
They were talking to somebody 

979
00:48:53,650 --> 00:48:55,710
else. 
And she ended up commenting and 

980
00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:57,790
was like, reach out to me, you 
know, whatever. 

981
00:48:58,030 --> 00:49:00,790
And then I went and looked at 
the go fund me and it had been 

982
00:49:00,870 --> 00:49:03,710
surpassed by like 20,000 or 
something like that. 

983
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:06,710
And the person was commenting 
and was like, Oh my gosh, thank 

984
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:08,950
you so much. 
Like you're such an Angel and 

985
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:12,150
whatever. 
And I think it's so beautiful to

986
00:49:12,190 --> 00:49:16,550
and so rare to find people in 
life who are genuinely just good

987
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:20,430
people behind the scenes and 
want to help heal people and 

988
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:23,150
don't expect anything from it 
and. 

989
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,960
And that's that type of energy 
that she has is like helping 

990
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,840
impact people in all of these 
different ways because she's 

991
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,680
doing things behind the scenes 
with expecting nothing back from

992
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,840
it. 
And then, you know, by being 

993
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,360
authentically who she is. 
I found her from way when she 

994
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,120
first was starting the podcast, 
before she started it, and then 

995
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,680
she started the podcast and she 
had Paige on. 

996
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,920
And I started following Paige 
because of the podcast and then.

997
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:57,710
Booked a reading with her and 
had this whole like like I 

998
00:49:57,710 --> 00:50:04,590
literally spent like my last 
$100 on a reading and did a free

999
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:08,030
reading and then did that one 
and I had this like crazy death 

1000
00:50:08,030 --> 00:50:12,310
experience and she gave me all 
of this advice of like how I was

1001
00:50:12,310 --> 00:50:15,110
going to use my voice and turn 
this like situation into 

1002
00:50:15,110 --> 00:50:17,310
something. 
So I started my own brand and 

1003
00:50:17,310 --> 00:50:20,430
podcast off of that, and then 
she and I became friends and 

1004
00:50:20,430 --> 00:50:23,510
started this podcast and like we
it's. 

1005
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:25,750
Started off with who do you want
to start a podcast together? 

1006
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:27,630
Her asking me. 
And then it's become this whole 

1007
00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:31,190
fucking brand. 
And I get to, you know, have 

1008
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:34,670
that connection now, meeting you
and other people through it. 

1009
00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:38,590
And I just, you know, if Bunny 
hadn't been out here just living

1010
00:50:38,590 --> 00:50:42,070
her life authentically, I 
wouldn't have found Paige, I 

1011
00:50:42,070 --> 00:50:44,510
wouldn't have found you. 
And I'm just super grateful for 

1012
00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:46,430
that. 
Just like Circle of Energy. 

1013
00:50:47,470 --> 00:50:49,630
I love it. 
I waited to get my first reading

1014
00:50:49,630 --> 00:50:51,470
from Page. 
When I got to, like, hug her in 

1015
00:50:51,470 --> 00:50:54,230
person, I was like, all right, I
want her to feel me. 

1016
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:56,310
And it was like, as soon as we 
hugged, you could just tell 

1017
00:50:56,310 --> 00:50:59,550
like, Oh yeah, this is it. 
We're friends for life now. 

1018
00:50:59,550 --> 00:51:02,030
And then I got my reading and I 
told her I was like, I wanted to

1019
00:51:02,030 --> 00:51:06,230
wait so you could like, like, 
physically feel my energy on top

1020
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:08,150
of mentally and spiritually 
feeling it too. 

1021
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:11,710
And when she did that reading, I
was like, holy shit balls, This 

1022
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:15,180
reading is awesome. 
My favorite part, We were at the

1023
00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:18,420
Nashville show and this was 
like, right when Need a Favor 

1024
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:21,620
just dropped that weekend and 
everyone around was like, this 

1025
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:23,620
is going to be the biggest song 
of Jelly's career. 

1026
00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:25,020
And we're all just shooting the 
shit. 

1027
00:51:25,020 --> 00:51:28,500
And then Little White walks up 
and I see, I didn't see Nicole 

1028
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,260
yet, but everyone was like 
Little White. 

1029
00:51:30,340 --> 00:51:32,100
And I was like, Oh my gosh, 
there's Nicole. 

1030
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:35,500
Like, I just like. 
So I didn't even say a word to 

1031
00:51:35,540 --> 00:51:37,340
him. 
I think it's strange when people

1032
00:51:37,340 --> 00:51:39,860
approach people's husbands 
without, like, acknowledging 

1033
00:51:39,860 --> 00:51:41,740
their wife first. 
That's just not my vibe. 

1034
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,900
But I was like, Oh my God, 
Southern. 

1035
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:45,220
It's like a Southern thing for 
us. 

1036
00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:47,900
I think it's like you've got 
like like you always take the 

1037
00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:49,580
woman's order fires at a 
restaurant. 

1038
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:52,620
You always introduce yourself to
one like, so I've got to remind 

1039
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:54,580
myself when we're other cities 
too, I'm like, all right, we're 

1040
00:51:54,580 --> 00:51:56,420
not, but we're not in the Bible 
built anymore. 

1041
00:51:56,420 --> 00:51:58,860
I got to like, remember we're in
a whole different part of the 

1042
00:51:58,860 --> 00:52:01,500
United States. 
I'm not Southern, but I want to 

1043
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:06,800
hit on your wife. 
Not everyone has etiquette, like

1044
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,000
when it comes to that. 
And so, like, everyone around me

1045
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,040
was like little white and 
freaking out. 

1046
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,320
And then I just like stepped to 
the side and it was just like me

1047
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,880
and Nicole and we were just 
vibing and like and it was so 

1048
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,160
cool because. 
Seeing all of his friends come 

1049
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,240
in for that and just seeing all 
of us there and we were all 

1050
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:26,840
like, you know, just having a 
good time and genuine support, 

1051
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,480
it just really motivates me to 
just be the best person that I 

1052
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,080
can be. 
Like that's what we want our 

1053
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,040
podcast to be, is just to 
motivate people to be 

1054
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,600
themselves, to be authentic, to 
be unique. 

1055
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
And I really love that you all 
have started this like. 

1056
00:52:42,750 --> 00:52:45,630
Health journey and like the 
sobriety journey, because I've 

1057
00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:50,150
just learned so much of being 
sober and just taking my power 

1058
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:54,150
back from, you know, those 
vices, it really opens the doors

1059
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:57,830
to so many like amazing 
experiences. 

1060
00:52:57,830 --> 00:53:01,830
Because you know, alcohol just 
lowers our vibration, keeps us 

1061
00:53:01,830 --> 00:53:05,590
in a lower state of operating in
a lower energy field. 

1062
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:08,750
And I can just tell there is 
just something so different 

1063
00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:12,350
about you lately and like most 
of your post instead of like. 

1064
00:53:12,730 --> 00:53:14,690
Like you said earlier, 
explaining yourself, you're kind

1065
00:53:14,690 --> 00:53:18,210
of just like, fuck you all, like
support me or not, I'm looking 

1066
00:53:18,210 --> 00:53:19,850
hot today. 
You're going to like it. 

1067
00:53:19,850 --> 00:53:22,890
And I've noticed like the 
interaction on your post have 

1068
00:53:22,890 --> 00:53:26,930
like really elevated as well. 
Like a lot of support coming in.

1069
00:53:27,290 --> 00:53:30,290
And I think that's what's really
cool about the Internet is it's 

1070
00:53:30,330 --> 00:53:32,930
not all bad. 
You know we meet a lot of 

1071
00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:35,970
amazing people through the 
Internet that we otherwise 

1072
00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:40,290
wouldn't be able to meet. 
We. 

1073
00:53:40,410 --> 00:53:44,010
So the biggest thing that a lot 
of people realize is, and this 

1074
00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:46,170
is what I've reminded my 
husband, he's reminding me too 

1075
00:53:46,170 --> 00:53:51,050
is like alcohol does or any vice
does numb a lot of the bad. 

1076
00:53:51,050 --> 00:53:53,650
But the more you numb the bad, 
you're numbing good stuff too. 

1077
00:53:53,650 --> 00:53:57,090
So it's like you got to figure 
out like okay, I'm instead of 

1078
00:53:57,090 --> 00:53:59,410
dealing with stuff, you're 
numbing it, but you're also 

1079
00:53:59,410 --> 00:54:02,610
numbing any other positivity 
around it as well or any other 

1080
00:54:02,610 --> 00:54:05,490
good stuff or good times or 
stuff like that. 

1081
00:54:05,490 --> 00:54:10,840
So it actually has been like 
super easy for us. 

1082
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,400
Like everyone's like I know it's
hard and I'm like, I don't know,

1083
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,200
I think we just both of us being
ready and doing it together. 

1084
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,400
It's just it's just us now. 
It's so like only how to explain

1085
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,320
it was just like it felt like it
happened overnight for us. 

1086
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,360
Well, and that's dope too, to be
able to. 

1087
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,640
Not a lot of people like each 
other when they're sober and 

1088
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,670
because. 
Alcohol numbs you out then It 

1089
00:54:34,670 --> 00:54:38,750
also changes your emotional 
reactions to things too. 

1090
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:41,510
And so you're not genuinely 
feeling. 

1091
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:44,070
I feel like you're not genuinely
feeling emotions that you think 

1092
00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:46,790
you're feeling, which is why 
people will get, like, so angry 

1093
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:49,950
or they'll cry or whatever, just
like because they're drinking. 

1094
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:52,950
And there are a lot of people 
that I met when I was drinking 

1095
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:56,350
that I didn't let or, you know, 
doing drugs in general that I 

1096
00:54:56,350 --> 00:54:57,990
didn't. 
Something like when I got sober 

1097
00:54:57,990 --> 00:55:01,230
and especially like dating 
people like I remember. 

1098
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:05,990
Taking Xanax when I was dating 
this one guy just because he had

1099
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:10,390
weak Dick game and it was easier
to like it if I was hooked up on

1100
00:55:10,510 --> 00:55:15,310
Xanax. 
We were walking to the airport 2

1101
00:55:15,310 --> 00:55:18,070
weekends ago is we're leaving 
the California shows and he 

1102
00:55:18,070 --> 00:55:20,150
literally just stopped like in 
the middle of terminal. 

1103
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:20,790
I was like what? 
He goes. 

1104
00:55:21,550 --> 00:55:26,390
I can feel my feelings and I was
like he's like not like. 

1105
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:29,680
I can feel it like he was like, 
he's like, I'm happy and like I 

1106
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,600
know what happiness feels like. 
And he's like, and I'm thankful 

1107
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,440
because they like the three six.
Angeli handed him his flowers 

1108
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,880
hundreds of times over these 
four shows and just was like, 

1109
00:55:40,750 --> 00:55:42,390
like and told him how proud he 
was. 

1110
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:44,310
Everybody around him has told 
him how proud he is. 

1111
00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:46,790
So he was like, we were 
literally on the way home and he

1112
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:50,070
was just like, explain to me 
what being thankful feels like 

1113
00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:52,270
and how it feels to actually 
feel happiness. 

1114
00:55:52,270 --> 00:55:54,390
And I was like, I'm so proud of 
you. 

1115
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:56,110
I was like, now I feel like 
we're going to miss our flight. 

1116
00:55:56,110 --> 00:55:58,950
So just keep that feeling and 
let's get down this terminal. 

1117
00:56:01,710 --> 00:56:04,110
That was like, I was like a 
really proud moment too, because

1118
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:09,580
I like for him to just feel, I 
guess it's like what he did, he 

1119
00:56:09,580 --> 00:56:11,460
just like, it hit him like a ton
of bricks. 

1120
00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:14,220
He's like, I can feel and it 
kind of threw me off for a 

1121
00:56:14,220 --> 00:56:16,020
second because I'm like, we're 
in the middle of an airport. 

1122
00:56:16,020 --> 00:56:17,780
I was like, but I guess it 
doesn't really matter your 

1123
00:56:17,780 --> 00:56:20,220
environment, when your body's 
and your mind's ready and it's 

1124
00:56:20,220 --> 00:56:23,220
starting to like and he does 
stuff every couple of days, like

1125
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:25,780
he'll realize stuff and he's 
like, I am firing on all 

1126
00:56:25,780 --> 00:56:28,540
cylinders, let's go. 
I can do this like I like this 

1127
00:56:28,540 --> 00:56:30,860
like so. 
And even our kids are like, 

1128
00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:33,060
he'll say something and they're 
like, well, you didn't say that 

1129
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:35,660
and he's like, y'all, I was 
sober when I said it. 

1130
00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:38,460
So I remember when I said it and
I was just like, so like even 

1131
00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:41,780
our kids like are like they'll 
do little things to like and be 

1132
00:56:41,780 --> 00:56:43,540
like, OK, y'all staying on 
track. 

1133
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:46,380
So like they're our biggest 
supporters of all of it. 

1134
00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:48,340
Like they tell us every other 
day or so. 

1135
00:56:48,340 --> 00:56:53,100
Like, we're so proud of y'all. 
I'm so proud of you all because 

1136
00:56:53,180 --> 00:56:57,340
getting sober is not supported. 
Like, it's very much frowned 

1137
00:56:57,340 --> 00:57:00,900
upon for like from like, the 
people from your past, you know?

1138
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:05,060
I know when I got sober. 
I'll have four years sober in 

1139
00:57:05,060 --> 00:57:07,420
December from just like, all 
hard drugs and just 

1140
00:57:07,420 --> 00:57:11,620
extracurricular activities. 
And I remember whenever it got 

1141
00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:14,900
to the point that I would drink 
alone, that's when I knew I had 

1142
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:17,340
a problem. 
Like drinking wine alone. 

1143
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:20,180
And, you know, going through a 
bottle of wine a day. 

1144
00:57:20,540 --> 00:57:23,820
It never seemed like a problem 
when I was out at the party. 

1145
00:57:24,060 --> 00:57:26,380
But then when you literally have
to. 

1146
00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:30,490
Set with yourself and you can 
only be fucked up when you do 

1147
00:57:30,490 --> 00:57:32,650
that. 
Like you don't want to be sober 

1148
00:57:32,650 --> 00:57:34,930
and alone. 
That's when I was like we got to

1149
00:57:34,930 --> 00:57:36,690
draw the line here. 
Like this is getting out of 

1150
00:57:36,690 --> 00:57:38,810
hand. 
And what's really interesting 

1151
00:57:38,810 --> 00:57:42,850
for me is, you know, fentanyl 
has taken over the last like 4 

1152
00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:47,040
years right before. 
When I got sober, fentanyl 

1153
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,640
wasn't a thing yet. 
Like, it hadn't hit the streets 

1154
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,600
yet. 
So I know that it was like 

1155
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,680
divine protection and 
intervention at that moment, 

1156
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,360
that that's when I got sober. 
And what's really ironic about 

1157
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,200
it is I had moved into a house 
that was like 20 years old, so I

1158
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,120
didn't think anybody would have 
died in my house. 

1159
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,800
I mean, it's only 20 years old. 
A girl had overdosed and died 

1160
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,120
here in my house and I'm like, 
she was talking to me like she 

1161
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,800
helped me get sober because 
there was like, this, like level

1162
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,240
of disgust that I started 
feeling towards myself of like, 

1163
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,880
why do you do that? 
Like, that's just not you. 

1164
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,160
It takes away those good things 
that you were talking about and 

1165
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,110
it's like. 
Only when you're tired of your 

1166
00:58:29,110 --> 00:58:31,190
own shit are you going to make a
change. 

1167
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:34,630
But having people who support 
that change is so important. 

1168
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:37,870
But I just found I had to drop 
most of those people because 

1169
00:58:38,070 --> 00:58:41,030
it's those people still doing 
the same shit every day. 

1170
00:58:42,310 --> 00:58:46,070
Yeah, it's but we've well, we 
kind of just support like so 

1171
00:58:46,070 --> 00:58:49,930
we're always together every day.
But him being going to rehab for

1172
00:58:49,930 --> 00:58:53,690
them 30 days and then me being 
at home, like we I had a couple 

1173
00:58:53,690 --> 00:58:56,570
friends like of both of ours 
that would call and check on 

1174
00:58:56,570 --> 00:58:58,450
both of us every day, though. 
Did you talk to him today? 

1175
00:58:58,450 --> 00:59:00,130
Did you get out of bed today? 
You're not just. 

1176
00:59:00,410 --> 00:59:02,810
And of course the kids were 
going to let me lay in bed and 

1177
00:59:02,810 --> 00:59:05,650
be depressed or anything so I'd 
get up and make the bed and 

1178
00:59:05,650 --> 00:59:06,850
they're like, I'm not. 
I was like, no, I'm up. 

1179
00:59:06,850 --> 00:59:08,690
I got dressed. 
I'm not just smoking around the 

1180
00:59:08,690 --> 00:59:10,210
house. 
I got stuff to do and we had 

1181
00:59:10,210 --> 00:59:13,490
just moved. 
So we had boxes, we had pictures

1182
00:59:13,490 --> 00:59:15,850
to hang up. 
We still had so much unpacking 

1183
00:59:15,850 --> 00:59:17,810
to do. 
So I was like, I think our 

1184
00:59:17,810 --> 00:59:19,810
garage was like completely full 
of stuff. 

1185
00:59:19,810 --> 00:59:22,010
And when he got home there's 
like, I think there's still like

1186
00:59:22,010 --> 00:59:24,850
10 boxes out there. 
He was like you've been working.

1187
00:59:24,850 --> 00:59:28,330
I mowed the yard, which I found 
out once he got home that had I 

1188
00:59:28,330 --> 00:59:30,770
been pulling the other lever. 
It was self prepared, 

1189
00:59:30,850 --> 00:59:35,210
self-propelled, and I've been 
pushing this mower of this giant

1190
00:59:35,210 --> 00:59:37,770
hill and he was like, oh, you 
really did work hard. 

1191
00:59:37,770 --> 00:59:40,010
I was like I didn't know what 
that that thing was for. 

1192
00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:42,410
I didn't know what brawl for me 
if I pulled that little button. 

1193
00:59:44,090 --> 00:59:46,850
I'd have had to fucking YouTube 
how to use a lawn mower because 

1194
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:52,610
that's not what I'm doing. 
That's not my skill set. 

1195
00:59:52,610 --> 00:59:55,530
I've never cut grass, You all, 
and I'm at this point in my 

1196
00:59:55,530 --> 00:59:57,130
life. 
I would pay someone to cut the 

1197
00:59:57,130 --> 01:00:00,690
grass if it needed to be done 
cutting grass. 

1198
01:00:00,690 --> 01:00:02,730
You can lose fingers and I'm 
not. 

1199
01:00:03,290 --> 01:00:06,210
I'm not with them. 
Dangerous. 

1200
01:00:08,370 --> 01:00:11,040
So. 
On your spiritual journey, do 

1201
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,640
you feel like you are awakening 
to new parts of yourself that 

1202
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,080
you didn't even understand 
before with sobriety? 

1203
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,160
Because I know being sober is an
awakening in itself because some

1204
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,920
for some people it's a rude 
awakening and for some people 

1205
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,000
it's invited. 
But I feel like you're really 

1206
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,040
embracing this journey and 
you're seeing all of that 

1207
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,520
growth. 
So do you feel like you're 

1208
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,280
uncovering new things about 
yourself that you didn't know 

1209
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,190
before? 
I think the biggest thing I've 

1210
01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:44,110
realized is I'm accepting of 
myself a lot more. 

1211
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:49,430
And because you know you for the
most part, you know yourself 

1212
01:00:50,070 --> 01:00:52,750
throughout your life and I'm 
still healing something in 

1213
01:00:52,750 --> 01:00:55,110
center. 
Note say I know myself all the 

1214
01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:58,750
way deep down, but I think the 
first step I've taken is 

1215
01:00:58,750 --> 01:01:02,230
accepting who I am and the 
things that I don't like about 

1216
01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:08,380
myself and being okay with them 
and and just being more open and

1217
01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:11,900
not holding stuff in because I 
was really bad about like a 

1218
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:15,700
bottled up control freak. 
Like if you don't do it my way, 

1219
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:18,540
instead of just saying how why I
wanted it done that way, I just 

1220
01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:21,060
go and do it myself. 
And I hold everything in And 

1221
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,460
I've had to learn to like let go
of some responsibilities so that

1222
01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:27,540
I don't bottle up feelings that 
really aren't necessary to 

1223
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:31,100
bottle up just because I want to
make sure it's done my way. 

1224
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:34,220
So I'm accepting more. 
Accepting of myself so far. 

1225
01:01:35,810 --> 01:01:40,610
I would be willing to take tips 
on that fucking lesson because I

1226
01:01:40,610 --> 01:01:41,970
have a really hard time with 
that. 

1227
01:01:42,970 --> 01:01:43,930
It's bad. 
I wouldn't. 

1228
01:01:43,930 --> 01:01:46,090
I like, I just now started 
letting the kids into the 

1229
01:01:46,090 --> 01:01:47,570
dishwasher because I was like 
it. 

1230
01:01:47,610 --> 01:01:49,290
The kids can help. 
I'm like, but I don't know where

1231
01:01:49,290 --> 01:01:51,450
I want the dishes put yet. 
So I'm trying to figure out the 

1232
01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:53,970
system I like. 
He's like, well, you need to 

1233
01:01:53,970 --> 01:01:56,370
figure out your system and give 
the kids some chores. 

1234
01:01:56,370 --> 01:01:58,850
You don't have to do everything.
And I'm like, all right, fine, I

1235
01:01:58,850 --> 01:02:01,250
know I want this stuff in this 
cabinet, like literally as 

1236
01:02:01,250 --> 01:02:04,210
little as stuff like that. 
I just, I want everything done 

1237
01:02:04,210 --> 01:02:06,360
the way I want it. 
My husband had to learn how to 

1238
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,360
make the bed again. 
When he got home, he was like, 

1239
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,480
this is what we're doing. 
He was like, we're like hotel 

1240
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,960
style, folding our bed every 
day. 

1241
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,400
I was like, Yep, this is what 
we're. 

1242
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,520
No, I learned from a very 
successful person who has been 

1243
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,640
in the corporate world for a 
really long time. 

1244
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,840
They told me that the rule to 
success is to make your bed 

1245
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,400
every morning because if you 
make your bed, you won't get 

1246
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,290
back into it. 
And before you've even really 

1247
01:02:33,330 --> 01:02:36,770
got going for the day, you've 
already completed a chore or a 

1248
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:39,970
task. 
And they also said that it it's 

1249
01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:43,490
very inviting when you come to 
get back in your bed and you 

1250
01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:47,410
have to undo it and you know, 
fix the pillows or whatever. 

1251
01:02:47,570 --> 01:02:50,130
But they said the number one 
rule to be in a successful 

1252
01:02:50,130 --> 01:02:52,050
person is to make your bed every
day. 

1253
01:02:52,330 --> 01:02:54,650
And so when they told me that a 
few years ago. 

1254
01:02:55,090 --> 01:02:58,330
I never made my bed previous. 
Like my bed was always a mess. 

1255
01:02:58,530 --> 01:03:00,930
I sleep with a lot of pillows. 
It was always a mess. 

1256
01:03:01,170 --> 01:03:05,610
But now I literally make my bed 
every morning, even like, I 

1257
01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:08,010
start the coffee and then I go 
back to make the bed. 

1258
01:03:08,170 --> 01:03:10,370
So then by the time I'm done, I 
have coffee. 

1259
01:03:10,690 --> 01:03:14,410
But it's really amazing, like 
the how those simple tasks will 

1260
01:03:14,410 --> 01:03:16,530
change the tone of your whole 
day. 

1261
01:03:17,090 --> 01:03:20,970
And I just love that. 
You know, as you're growing, 

1262
01:03:20,970 --> 01:03:24,530
you're realizing new things that
make you happy or that make you 

1263
01:03:24,530 --> 01:03:25,490
feel like. 
Peace. 

1264
01:03:25,730 --> 01:03:27,730
And I think that's what this is 
really all about. 

1265
01:03:27,730 --> 01:03:32,090
Like the spiritual journey is 
about peace and harmony, because

1266
01:03:32,090 --> 01:03:35,650
the world just profits from our 
unhappiness, whether we're using

1267
01:03:35,650 --> 01:03:41,010
alcohol or drugs or, you know, 
plastic surgeries or whatever it

1268
01:03:41,010 --> 01:03:44,050
is they're profiting from people
being unhappy. 

1269
01:03:44,050 --> 01:03:48,130
And the most rebellious thing we
can do as humans is to love 

1270
01:03:48,130 --> 01:03:50,210
ourselves and to accept 
ourselves. 

1271
01:03:50,530 --> 01:03:53,650
And I think that that's 
wonderful because drugs and 

1272
01:03:53,650 --> 01:03:56,410
alcohol. 
Became such a part of my 

1273
01:03:56,410 --> 01:03:58,930
personality that I didn't know 
who I was either. 

1274
01:03:58,930 --> 01:04:00,610
You know? 
Like, I didn't know I had all of

1275
01:04:00,610 --> 01:04:03,930
these amazing spiritual gifts. 
Like, I knew I knew when people 

1276
01:04:03,930 --> 01:04:06,090
were lying. 
I knew I knew when people were 

1277
01:04:06,090 --> 01:04:08,930
bullshitting me, but I didn't 
know I could turn this into 

1278
01:04:09,170 --> 01:04:11,370
something that actually helped 
other people. 

1279
01:04:11,490 --> 01:04:13,490
So I just love that. 
That's so wonderful. 

1280
01:04:14,010 --> 01:04:17,050
I think the biggest illusion 
about giving up drinking and 

1281
01:04:17,050 --> 01:04:20,940
drugs and stuff is like, you're 
still in that moment having fun 

1282
01:04:21,020 --> 01:04:22,820
and the people around you love 
you. 

1283
01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:24,300
They're like, oh, Nicole's 
awesome. 

1284
01:04:24,300 --> 01:04:26,500
Oh, White's awesome. 
Like they always have fun and 

1285
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:29,820
like, it's so it's not really so
much that people didn't like 

1286
01:04:29,980 --> 01:04:32,980
being around us, but we were 
getting lost in the illusion 

1287
01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:36,580
that it was okay to be loved 
under those conditions all the 

1288
01:04:36,580 --> 01:04:39,820
time. 
So me being at home and him 

1289
01:04:39,820 --> 01:04:42,500
being in rehab, and that was 
also the longest time we've ever

1290
01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:46,170
been apart from each other. 
Like, it was like like the 

1291
01:04:46,170 --> 01:04:48,090
weirdest thing. 
But then we also realized how 

1292
01:04:48,090 --> 01:04:50,730
connected we were because we 
have the same dreams at night. 

1293
01:04:51,930 --> 01:04:54,610
He would be going to call me and
I'd be picking up my phone to 

1294
01:04:54,610 --> 01:04:57,570
see if I'd missed this call. 
Like, so we learned a lot about 

1295
01:04:57,570 --> 01:05:00,410
ourselves individually, but also
about ourselves together. 

1296
01:05:00,890 --> 01:05:05,570
Like it was like, it was so 
refreshing all night. 

1297
01:05:05,690 --> 01:05:09,120
It was just and then all the 
people that have our backs like 

1298
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,520
knowing that we're still that 
fun loving goofy couple sober is

1299
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,400
like I know that was his biggest
fear. 

1300
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,800
Of course man I'm over here and 
I'm like if they I was like they

1301
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,320
wanted Nicole to do this, well 
this Nicole's a bitch so y'all 

1302
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,080
get ready. 
I'm still funny and goofy but 

1303
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,760
now I just my I don't give a 
fuck. 

1304
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,240
It's like turned all the way up.
Like my filter is extra on point

1305
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,330
now, like, but everybody's 
really just been so positive and

1306
01:05:33,330 --> 01:05:37,410
motivational and encouraging to 
him that it's helping him a lot.

1307
01:05:37,410 --> 01:05:41,210
Because I mean, he's been known 
as the party animal 36, Mafia's 

1308
01:05:41,210 --> 01:05:45,770
party animal for 20 plus years. 
So it's like he had to take his 

1309
01:05:45,770 --> 01:05:48,210
switch and completely turn it 
all the way down. 

1310
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:51,210
It's like it was more scary for 
him and for me. 

1311
01:05:51,210 --> 01:05:52,290
I'm like, come on, let's just do
it. 

1312
01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:53,890
Like who? 
Fuck them folks. 

1313
01:05:53,890 --> 01:05:55,250
Let's see what happens. 
So. 

1314
01:05:56,450 --> 01:06:00,290
And it's like a new beginning 
too, and like a chance for 

1315
01:06:00,290 --> 01:06:04,820
people to. 
Get to know and love somebody 

1316
01:06:04,820 --> 01:06:07,620
who is taking care of themselves
and who is coming from a 

1317
01:06:07,620 --> 01:06:10,700
healthier mindset. 
And you really get to see the 

1318
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:14,300
people who are rocking with you 
for you and all versions of who 

1319
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:17,500
you're coming as. 
Because people can like that, 

1320
01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:20,180
you know, you're you're the 
drunk person or the person 

1321
01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:22,340
that's fucked up or whatever and
and. 

1322
01:06:23,020 --> 01:06:25,940
Numbed out and that they can 
disrespect you where they can 

1323
01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:28,940
take advantage of you or pull 
the wool over your eyes in some 

1324
01:06:28,940 --> 01:06:32,260
type of way. 
And if you do have any type of 

1325
01:06:32,260 --> 01:06:35,330
like. 
I personally think when you're 

1326
01:06:35,330 --> 01:06:38,490
walking through the airport and 
you have those like amplified 

1327
01:06:38,530 --> 01:06:42,490
feelings and things like that, a
big part of that is being your 

1328
01:06:42,490 --> 01:06:46,410
own intuitive person. 
And there's so many bodies 

1329
01:06:46,410 --> 01:06:49,490
inside of an airport and there's
anxiety and there's fear and 

1330
01:06:49,490 --> 01:06:52,290
there's excitement about going 
and seeing people and you can 

1331
01:06:52,290 --> 01:06:55,810
feed off of those things. 
So if you're doing that where 

1332
01:06:55,810 --> 01:06:59,770
you're not numbed out, you're 
getting to amplify that and turn

1333
01:06:59,770 --> 01:07:02,530
it into something positive 
instead of something that's 

1334
01:07:02,530 --> 01:07:04,220
like. 
Really negative. 

1335
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:07,100
Something I've always told my 
husband because he doesn't like 

1336
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:10,020
flying and he's the person who's
like, give me a Valium because I

1337
01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:11,540
have to fly. 
And I'm like really scared of 

1338
01:07:11,540 --> 01:07:13,300
it. 
And I'm like, all that you're 

1339
01:07:13,300 --> 01:07:16,140
doing is making yourself more 
susceptible to the energy of 

1340
01:07:16,180 --> 01:07:20,300
other people scared around you. 
And then now you're just going 

1341
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:22,620
to be having a panic attack the 
whole fucking time because 

1342
01:07:22,620 --> 01:07:24,420
you're open to all this 
different energy. 

1343
01:07:25,580 --> 01:07:27,980
Oh, yeah, That was the first 
time for both of us flying sober

1344
01:07:27,980 --> 01:07:30,170
too. 
Like, because normally I would 

1345
01:07:30,170 --> 01:07:32,410
even call my doctor, like, all 
right, I got to fly and he'll 

1346
01:07:32,410 --> 01:07:35,570
call me in like a number of 
Valium for each flight I got to 

1347
01:07:35,570 --> 01:07:37,370
take or whatnot. 
So I'm chilling. 

1348
01:07:37,850 --> 01:07:39,890
Like we both were on there, just
sober. 

1349
01:07:39,890 --> 01:07:42,530
The same, I done bit a hole hole
in my lip. 

1350
01:07:42,530 --> 01:07:43,690
I'm like, so I'm playing. 
He's like, what? 

1351
01:07:43,690 --> 01:07:46,110
And I was like, are we landing 
yet? 

1352
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:48,230
He was like, calm down. 
I'm like, I'm doing this. 

1353
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:49,750
I got your back. 
I'm doing this. 

1354
01:07:49,750 --> 01:07:51,670
I'm not ordering no alcohol. 
I got you. 

1355
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:56,110
And, like, he like, so he got me
a crossword puzzle book thing. 

1356
01:07:56,110 --> 01:07:58,710
And then I started reading and 
he was like, don't forget your 

1357
01:07:58,710 --> 01:08:00,150
book. 
And I'm like, all right, why are

1358
01:08:00,150 --> 01:08:02,750
you doing better at this? 
To me, like, I'm the one that 

1359
01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:04,550
has your back. 
So it's been a couple like 

1360
01:08:04,550 --> 01:08:06,550
situations like that where we 
both have had each other's back 

1361
01:08:06,550 --> 01:08:08,150
and it's just like, all right, 
this works. 

1362
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:13,340
I think I'm being over. 
Illuminates so many amazing 

1363
01:08:13,340 --> 01:08:16,580
parts of ourselves that we 
didn't even realize we're there.

1364
01:08:16,939 --> 01:08:19,779
And I feel like you're all 
support for one another has only

1365
01:08:19,779 --> 01:08:22,460
gotten stronger through this. 
And I think that's wonderful 

1366
01:08:22,460 --> 01:08:27,380
because that shows like that's 
what people see and that's the 

1367
01:08:27,380 --> 01:08:30,380
type of energy like that you 
want to show the world. 

1368
01:08:30,380 --> 01:08:33,140
Like this is who we really are. 
And I mean. 

1369
01:08:33,689 --> 01:08:36,649
Just going back to like what I 
said earlier, like hearing his 

1370
01:08:36,649 --> 01:08:39,649
song at 11 years old. 
I didn't smoke, but my smoking 

1371
01:08:39,649 --> 01:08:41,810
song was my shit. 
That was my jam. 

1372
01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:44,689
But like looking back on that, 
like if you would have told 11 

1373
01:08:44,689 --> 01:08:48,850
year old me listening to that on
a literal Walkman that 20 years 

1374
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:52,490
in the future we would be here, 
Little White would be sober, we 

1375
01:08:52,490 --> 01:08:56,010
would have his amazing hot wife 
on the podcast, or even that I 

1376
01:08:56,010 --> 01:08:58,649
would have a podcast because 
that didn't exist yet. 

1377
01:08:58,930 --> 01:09:01,160
It's just like. 
When you get out of your own 

1378
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,160
way, the universe has this 
amazing route for you, you know?

1379
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,040
And I think drugs and alcohol, 
they just slow us down on our 

1380
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,920
path. 
Like you're going to get there. 

1381
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,640
It's just going to take you a 
lot longer. 

1382
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,479
Do you feel like he's making 
better music now than he's ever 

1383
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,920
made? 
So he acts so the songs for the 

1384
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,120
album actually already dropped. 
I think he's dropped. 

1385
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:28,399
He's done a like two or three 
verses since he's been sober, 

1386
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,880
and you can tell it's like a 
different sound and different 

1387
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,760
perspective, but he hasn't 
really just opened up that part 

1388
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,880
yet. 
Like, he still does things for 

1389
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,520
other artists when they get a 
verse from him on their song, 

1390
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,520
but as far as they're finishing 
up this project. 

1391
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,319
So it'll it'll be a a new thing 
to watch him work on his next 

1392
01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:52,120
solo project with this new mind 
frame to see where he goes. 

1393
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,320
But even the way he talks about 
things and then stuff he talks 

1394
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,640
about, you could already tell 
his gears are completely shifted

1395
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,760
in a different perspective of 
everything. 

1396
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,480
He'll be super successful with 
it either fucking way. 

1397
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,000
I mean, I think so, but I'm 
slightly biased. 

1398
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:14,550
A little bit so. 
So what's coming next for you 

1399
01:10:14,710 --> 01:10:18,990
and like what you have going? 
I don't know, it's so weird. 

1400
01:10:18,990 --> 01:10:22,950
So the name that rap guy's wife,
people talking all the time like

1401
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:25,470
well why don't, why do you want 
to just be that rap guy's wife? 

1402
01:10:25,470 --> 01:10:27,310
And I'm just like, I'm just a 
behind the scenes person. 

1403
01:10:27,310 --> 01:10:30,510
Anyways, I just got his back. 
So like lately everybody people 

1404
01:10:30,510 --> 01:10:33,470
keep asking me to do a podcast 
Like this is the first one I've 

1405
01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:38,430
ever done that by myself without
just me being his addon. 

1406
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:41,750
And like, I hate the way my 
voice sounds on recordings. 

1407
01:10:42,430 --> 01:10:45,070
And then like, I do so much 
other stuff. 

1408
01:10:45,070 --> 01:10:46,950
I make excuses for myself. 
I'm like, well, if you do a 

1409
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:49,790
podcast, everyone else is 
already doing a podcast and then

1410
01:10:49,790 --> 01:10:52,750
you got to add in the extra work
of editing it and recording it. 

1411
01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:54,990
And then you start with all the 
doubt questions. 

1412
01:10:54,990 --> 01:10:59,470
So I'm just kind of slowly just 
seeing where it takes us. 

1413
01:10:59,470 --> 01:11:02,950
Like I think we should totally 
get go pros in the car and call 

1414
01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:05,460
it Caddy fever. 
And because all the stuff we 

1415
01:11:05,460 --> 01:11:09,260
talked about on the road, like, 
we are like stupid, funny when 

1416
01:11:09,460 --> 01:11:10,820
we're on the road going 
somewhere. 

1417
01:11:10,820 --> 01:11:14,100
Like we make up stories about 
the cars that drive past us. 

1418
01:11:14,540 --> 01:11:16,980
Like like some guy will forget 
to use his blinker. 

1419
01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:19,780
And I'm like come on Pat Paul. 
And I'm like, Oh well she's 

1420
01:11:19,780 --> 01:11:21,380
sitting over there. 
She was giving him Rd. head. 

1421
01:11:21,380 --> 01:11:23,460
He wouldn't even know that. 
I could see why he didn't use 

1422
01:11:23,460 --> 01:11:24,820
his blinker. 
And they're like, well, no they 

1423
01:11:24,820 --> 01:11:27,500
just left their son's house and 
he dropped out of call. 

1424
01:11:27,500 --> 01:11:29,900
Like we just keep going and 
going and just make up these 

1425
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:34,130
random stories about people and 
like and it's I think it would 

1426
01:11:34,130 --> 01:11:35,730
be like one of the funniest 
things in the world. 

1427
01:11:35,730 --> 01:11:38,290
But then I'm over here. 
Like how do you do that? 

1428
01:11:38,290 --> 01:11:39,730
Do you just record the whole 
thing? 

1429
01:11:39,730 --> 01:11:43,170
So like, it's just a courage 
thing I guess, cuz I know I can 

1430
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:44,970
do it. 
I was able to figure out the 

1431
01:11:44,970 --> 01:11:47,450
link to get on here with y'all, 
so I could probably figure how 

1432
01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:50,380
to do all that. 
You could totally do both. 

1433
01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:54,860
When we're done recording, we'll
I'll message you in the group 

1434
01:11:54,860 --> 01:11:58,900
chat that we have because we 
could totally help you with like

1435
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:01,180
easily. 
Like we use a platform for 

1436
01:12:01,180 --> 01:12:03,700
recording and editing the 
podcast and it's all in one 

1437
01:12:03,700 --> 01:12:06,020
spot. 
And then also, yeah, if you 

1438
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:08,930
record the whole thing. 
And there's this app called 

1439
01:12:08,930 --> 01:12:13,370
Inshot. 
And you can break down your your

1440
01:12:13,370 --> 01:12:16,210
video, cut it up, you can put in
transitions in there. 

1441
01:12:16,450 --> 01:12:18,770
It's all free. 
You can post that wherever you 

1442
01:12:18,770 --> 01:12:20,130
want to. 
Like you could totally get your 

1443
01:12:20,130 --> 01:12:22,610
own shit going. 
And then you could use your vlog

1444
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:27,250
as your promo for your podcast. 
See, and the other thing that 

1445
01:12:27,250 --> 01:12:29,170
everybody's been asking to do is
a cooking show. 

1446
01:12:29,170 --> 01:12:33,490
So, But the other thing we used 
to do is we would drink and cook

1447
01:12:33,650 --> 01:12:35,730
and it would just turn this 
whole comedy show. 

1448
01:12:35,730 --> 01:12:37,610
And I'm just like when you're 
still cooking me funny. 

1449
01:12:38,150 --> 01:12:41,110
So we're kind of debating if 
like how to go back towards that

1450
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:45,550
because it's just a lot of our 
goofy stuff was us cooking and 

1451
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:49,150
having a good buzz and just 
being just super silly while 

1452
01:12:49,150 --> 01:12:51,510
making them freaking 5 course 
meal, so. 

1453
01:12:54,410 --> 01:12:56,130
Yeah, I was going to say, I 
think that this is an 

1454
01:12:56,130 --> 01:12:57,770
adjustment. 
Like, you know, it's super 

1455
01:12:57,770 --> 01:12:59,850
fresh. 
It's only a couple months, like 

1456
01:13:00,210 --> 01:13:04,250
once you get your feet on the 
ground and this becomes like who

1457
01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:06,370
you are now. 
Because when you first get 

1458
01:13:06,370 --> 01:13:08,610
sober, there's always those 
thoughts of like, what if I 

1459
01:13:08,610 --> 01:13:10,130
relapse? 
What if I go back? 

1460
01:13:10,130 --> 01:13:13,500
What if I accidentally? 
Take a drink or you know what I 

1461
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:15,020
mean? 
There, there are those intrusive

1462
01:13:15,020 --> 01:13:16,820
thoughts. 
So I would just say, like, for 

1463
01:13:16,820 --> 01:13:20,580
anyone listening that wants to 
get sober or especially sober, 

1464
01:13:20,860 --> 01:13:25,220
like those go away eventually. 
Like now I actually make fun of 

1465
01:13:25,220 --> 01:13:28,220
that version of me that like 
used to do drugs and like think 

1466
01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:30,980
that it was normal or even just 
think that it was like 

1467
01:13:30,980 --> 01:13:33,780
sustainable. 
I think that's the great thing 

1468
01:13:33,780 --> 01:13:36,620
about drugs and alcohol is that 
people think that's a 

1469
01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:40,340
sustainable lifestyle. 
And my dad said it best. 

1470
01:13:40,340 --> 01:13:42,220
Like when does the party end 
like? 

1471
01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:44,780
One day you got to wake up and 
be like, enough is enough. 

1472
01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:47,700
And when he said that to me, I 
was young, I was like 15. 

1473
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:51,180
It didn't make sense. 
But then, you know, at 27, 

1474
01:13:51,180 --> 01:13:53,660
whenever I finally was like, I'm
going to break away from this 

1475
01:13:53,660 --> 01:13:57,620
lifestyle, I would have the most
intrusive thoughts about, like. 

1476
01:13:58,220 --> 01:14:00,340
Well, what if someone has it? 
Or what if you go to their house

1477
01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:02,580
and they offer it to you? 
Or what if you go here and you 

1478
01:14:02,580 --> 01:14:05,100
know what I mean? 
Like you don't know and a part 

1479
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:09,260
of you feels not ready to like 
say, this is a forever choice, 

1480
01:14:09,260 --> 01:14:11,100
right? 
Because you don't know. 

1481
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:13,780
And there's so many things that 
can change, especially with 

1482
01:14:13,780 --> 01:14:16,220
being exposed to the music 
industry. 

1483
01:14:16,540 --> 01:14:19,900
People just drink and do drugs. 
It's super acceptable. 

1484
01:14:20,140 --> 01:14:23,460
It's super normal. 
So I think that shows a lot of 

1485
01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:27,700
strength on Y'all's end because 
being completely exposed to it, 

1486
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:31,020
kind of like with Bunny, she's 
exposed to a lot of things that 

1487
01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:33,620
like, it doesn't mean you have 
to do those things, you know, 

1488
01:14:33,620 --> 01:14:36,700
just because they're there 
doesn't mean that's you anymore.

1489
01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:40,300
So I think that once you all 
continue on this path and really

1490
01:14:40,300 --> 01:14:44,180
have that strong foundation, 
like once you hit six months of 

1491
01:14:44,180 --> 01:14:47,580
something, nobody can tell me 
shit like six months in the gym,

1492
01:14:47,740 --> 01:14:50,060
six months working out, you 
know, like you start seeing 

1493
01:14:50,060 --> 01:14:52,060
changes, right? 
Or, you know, 6. 

1494
01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:55,620
Months in sobriety, like you'll 
start seeing like a mental 

1495
01:14:55,620 --> 01:14:58,260
change, a spiritual change of 
physical change. 

1496
01:14:58,540 --> 01:15:02,380
And once you hit those miles 
milestones, like no one can tell

1497
01:15:02,380 --> 01:15:04,380
you shit. 
And I feel like you'll 

1498
01:15:04,380 --> 01:15:06,500
definitely start a podcast 
because I love your voice. 

1499
01:15:06,500 --> 01:15:09,740
I feel like it's really deep and
it's stubborn and I think it's 

1500
01:15:09,740 --> 01:15:15,020
like very different than any 
voice that I've heard and seeing

1501
01:15:15,020 --> 01:15:18,070
you out. 
Out in the world is like such a 

1502
01:15:18,070 --> 01:15:21,270
wonderful thing because, you 
know, you don't even know what 

1503
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:23,230
you are here to offer the world 
yet. 

1504
01:15:23,230 --> 01:15:25,070
You know what I mean? 
Like, you've been a mother, 

1505
01:15:25,070 --> 01:15:28,390
you've been a provider, you've 
been the manager, you've been 

1506
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:30,510
behind the scenes. 
But like, what's the Nicole that

1507
01:15:30,510 --> 01:15:33,750
comes out on the stage that's 
like front and center? 

1508
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:35,990
You know, like, what's that 
version of you? 

1509
01:15:36,350 --> 01:15:39,190
And that's what I think so 
beautiful about the journey, is 

1510
01:15:39,190 --> 01:15:42,470
when you trust and you have 
faith in yourself and in your 

1511
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:44,870
partner. 
Magical things happen. 

1512
01:15:44,910 --> 01:15:52,200
Like, no matter what, love it. 
Well, we are so grateful Jim and

1513
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,680
I. 
Do you want to do the My Human 

1514
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,760
design card to wrap us up? 
I sure the fuck do let me grab 

1515
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,520
it. 
We will drop everything. 

1516
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,280
If you all want to go follow 
Nicole, we're actually going to 

1517
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,920
name this episode That rap guy's
wife just because it's like your

1518
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,080
brand. 
I think that whole like brand 

1519
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,960
and I just love this 
collaboration. 

1520
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,400
We are so grateful that you came
on our. 

1521
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:20,800
Podcast like we definitely in 
the future can't wait till we 

1522
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,400
can record in person and have 
some boss ass studio. 

1523
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,000
So right now this little 
makeshift Zoom meeting is really

1524
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,880
doing us well. 
But we are so grateful for you. 

1525
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,160
I loved it. 
Thank you all so much for having

1526
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,160
me. 
You. 

1527
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,240
Are I. 
Have such a goal. 

1528
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,720
Okay. 
So I moved into this house. 

1529
01:16:40,130 --> 01:16:43,530
July and I have literally been 
sitting on the floor in this 

1530
01:16:43,570 --> 01:16:45,850
empty white room in this podcast
room because I. 

1531
01:16:46,090 --> 01:16:48,770
Don't know how to create it. 
So you were my motivation for, 

1532
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:50,410
like, I finally need to get a 
couch in here. 

1533
01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:53,210
So I got a couch for my friend 
and we put it in here today. 

1534
01:16:53,490 --> 01:16:56,810
And my husband's. 
Like, so you've been super 

1535
01:16:56,810 --> 01:16:59,850
motivated to get this couch in 
for this interview. 

1536
01:17:00,170 --> 01:17:02,770
But like, did you know that it 
looks like a porn couch? 

1537
01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:06,130
And like the it's the fucking 
vibe. 

1538
01:17:06,650 --> 01:17:09,490
And he's like, I mean Y'all's 
podcast is lick it like a 

1539
01:17:09,530 --> 01:17:11,330
lollipop. 
It totally makes sense to have a

1540
01:17:11,330 --> 01:17:13,850
porn Co. 
I'm fucking saying y'all pop, 

1541
01:17:14,050 --> 01:17:17,090
Y'all Popped my cherry on lick 
it like a lollipop while you sat

1542
01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:19,330
on a porn couch. 
So like complete circle. 

1543
01:17:19,890 --> 01:17:22,130
Yes, I'm using that as promo, 
OK. 

1544
01:17:23,540 --> 01:17:27,700
So the way that the human design
deck works is it points out a 

1545
01:17:27,780 --> 01:17:31,180
gift that you have or that you 
already have or that you're 

1546
01:17:31,180 --> 01:17:34,460
going to be using to help you 
navigate through situations that

1547
01:17:34,460 --> 01:17:36,900
you're going through. 
And then it also points out a 

1548
01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:39,260
shadow. 
So if you like, we have the full

1549
01:17:39,260 --> 01:17:41,420
moon going. 
So if you think about it from 

1550
01:17:41,660 --> 01:17:44,020
like the moon aspect, that's 
that side that's like 

1551
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:46,860
illuminated and others are going
to be able to see and then that 

1552
01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:50,660
side that's like hidden away. 
So we got card number 4. 

1553
01:17:51,210 --> 01:17:58,450
And the card is the bridge, the 
sign is Leo, the gift is 

1554
01:17:58,450 --> 01:18:01,730
understanding, and your shadow 
is in tolerance. 

1555
01:18:02,330 --> 01:18:05,450
You will reap the rewards of 
this gift when you finally let 

1556
01:18:05,450 --> 01:18:08,410
go of the need to control 
everything with your mind 

1557
01:18:08,730 --> 01:18:12,210
knowing that it cannot be the 
driving force of your decisions 

1558
01:18:12,650 --> 01:18:15,410
at lower frequency. 
The mind tricks you into 

1559
01:18:15,410 --> 01:18:18,690
believing that you are always 
right and the other is at fault 

1560
01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:21,940
without fail. 
Beyond the mind, by way of 

1561
01:18:21,940 --> 01:18:25,660
higher frequencies, you are able
to achieve the objective of 

1562
01:18:25,660 --> 01:18:29,260
understanding. 
Human beings are accumulation of

1563
01:18:29,260 --> 01:18:33,060
events, circumstances and fates.
None of our relative 

1564
01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:37,530
perspectives are absolute truth.
With that, a world of 

1565
01:18:37,530 --> 01:18:41,610
possibility opens up for you, 
and the bridge between you and 

1566
01:18:41,610 --> 01:18:45,410
the other illuminates. 
No longer is reality a complex 

1567
01:18:45,410 --> 01:18:48,370
puzzle to solve. 
You are able to lean into the 

1568
01:18:48,370 --> 01:18:51,770
calm assurance of your inner 
guidance system and use your 

1569
01:18:51,770 --> 01:18:55,690
mind for contemplation and play.
When you are leading from this 

1570
01:18:55,690 --> 01:18:59,410
gift, you are able to provide 
logical reasoning for others at 

1571
01:18:59,410 --> 01:19:02,370
just the right time. 
And then your shadow is 

1572
01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:06,230
intolerance. 
Quit the labyrinth, or quite the

1573
01:19:06,230 --> 01:19:10,270
labyrinth exists within this 
shadow, which presents as a 

1574
01:19:10,270 --> 01:19:14,390
distorted reality fueled by an 
unreliable emotional state and 

1575
01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:16,830
mind. 
The tricky part of this shadow 

1576
01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:21,590
is it's convincing nature. 
This theme represents a very 

1577
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:25,350
common experience for humans, 
especially in earlier years. 

1578
01:19:25,710 --> 01:19:29,750
A tendency to mistake our every 
emotion is true, paired with a 

1579
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:33,190
mind to back it up and provide 
evidence, however faulty. 

1580
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,920
When lost to this 
misrepresentation, you might 

1581
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,800
create entire storylines around 
a situation or event, though 

1582
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,440
only a kernel of truth exists 
within it. 

1583
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,680
Thus, this shadow outwardly 
appears as logic, but without 

1584
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,560
the sturdy framework of your 
sound. 

1585
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,840
In our guidance system, fear and
projection become the defense 

1586
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,600
strategy. 
This might also manifest as a 

1587
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,200
tendency to provide logical 
answers all the time. 

1588
01:20:00,650 --> 01:20:03,850
In other words, you may try to 
answer all questions everyone 

1589
01:20:03,850 --> 01:20:06,290
has versus waiting for the 
appropriate time and 

1590
01:20:06,290 --> 01:20:10,290
circumstance to arise. 
Your themes will be logic, 

1591
01:20:10,330 --> 01:20:12,890
understanding, insight and 
clarity. 

1592
01:20:15,130 --> 01:20:18,570
That was a good one. 
I think that just hit everything

1593
01:20:18,570 --> 01:20:23,370
we just talked about, you said. 
You know, I feel like this is 

1594
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:27,330
just a full circle moment and my
inner child is thriving in this 

1595
01:20:27,330 --> 01:20:30,960
space like I feel like. 
I have grown up to be that 

1596
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,440
person that 12 year old me would
like really think as cool as 

1597
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:38,200
hell Just having you at 
beautiful ladies on here and 

1598
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,720
just like being able to 
collaborate, it just shows you 

1599
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,640
that like if you get out of your
own way. 

1600
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:47,320
Magic happens and people can be 
powerful and collaborative and 

1601
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,840
have their own things going, but
yet support one another in a 

1602
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,600
really amazing way. 
So Nicole, thank you so much. 

1603
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,720
We will have all of her 
information in the description 

1604
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,560
box. 
If you want to check her out, go

1605
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,320
follow her and all of that good 
stuff. 

1606
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,200
So without further ado, we'll 
see you next time in Candy Land.

