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Welcome back to Candyland. Paige and I are here today
talking about ethics on a wide scale, wide variety, answering
so many questions. Hello, Polly Pocket.
Hello, I feel like ethics are really like lacking in the
collective, whether it's ethics at a job, ethics in your
relationships, friendships. Like ethics is important and so
many people I feel like are just not taught good things anymore.
Like we're absorbing so much from the Internet.
We're absorbing so much content that's negative, constant
negativity. And I feel like people pick up
on that and they're like, well, fuck it, I'll just throw trash
out the window or I'll just do these things because like, who
cares? You know what I mean?
I feel like there's not a lot of loyalty, integrity, or just like
ethics in the collective. And I feel like your ethics on
things can change too, depending on like what new knowledge that
you gain. And you know, as we evolve as
people, so do the things that we find important and the
boundaries that we have on things or our perception on
things. And so I think that we got so
many topics and questions for us to go through regarding ethics.
And these are things that like maybe we've talked about certain
things in the past and now our opinion and like our ethic value
wanted is different. And maybe it's things that we're
going to say right now is like a definitive thing.
And then in a year, we're going to be like, yeah, so that's
changed, which that happens with us all the time, too.
Yeah, I definitely think that there's an evolution, but also
like there are some core values that I feel like I hold very
dear now, especially when it comes to spiritual guidance or
psychic guidance or whatever it may be.
Like we have a duty to help people if you're going to use
your gifts, period. Yeah.
You want to dive into a question.
Yeah, yeah, I'll. Oh, OK.
Is there a time when you wanted to Snoop psychically but you
held yourself back? Oh yeah, Oh yeah, all the time.
I mean, honestly though, I can read a situation very clearly
from the outside as long as I'm not inherently biased.
So if I like a person romantically or I like someone
or something like that, I can read the set like read the scene
pretty clearly. But I'm also going to be biased
into like what I want, you know what I mean?
Like, oh, I think they're talking to their ex, but I don't
want that to be the case. So here I'm giving like all of
this list of things that make excuses for their behavior.
So I feel like I can read a situation without setting a
circle pretty clearly, unless I am inherently biased.
You ever think though, that maybe like you also can read
situations wrong that don't have anything wrong with them because
you do have like your own like underlying like jealousy or
concern about things. And so maybe you as a person
might read something wrong that you may think that you're
reading correctly and like gaslight yourself and Rev
yourself up unnecessarily. Like for a reading for myself.
Yeah, or reading other people who like maybe you're looking at
a situation and because you think something or have your own
concern deep down, maybe you look at a situation wrong that
you think you're looking at right.
I mean, I think that with free will you can read a situation
really clearly, but the circumstances changed based on
the actions being taken by the person involved.
Like, so just for an example, like five years ago, I got a lot
of downloads and a lot of information about specific
people, what at that time felt very concrete or very grounded
or very important. And although it didn't play out
exactly how I had saw it, I still learned a lot from the
spiritual catalyst of the situation overall.
Like the twin flame journey really opened me up to my
spiritual gifts. Do I think that that journey is
real? Yes.
Do I think everyone who thinks they're on that journey is on
it? No.
So the free will portion I think can change outcomes no matter
what you see. Like, I can see someone starting
a podcast and, you know, living their best life, but if they
have an inherent fear of sharing their voice or speaking up maybe
from a past life or some type of karma that they're holding onto,
then it's going to change the trajectory of that timeline,
right? Like, but I can see it.
And that doesn't mean that it's not a real timeline.
It just means they're not going to evolve into the confident,
courageous person that they need to to fulfill that. 100%.
So I think that free will plays a lot into the message.
Like I can see people stepping it up, but if you choose to hit
snooze on your alarm every morning when you needed that
hour for journaling and meditation or the gym or
whatever it is, then you're never going to reach that goal,
even though I can see that timeline.
I think that's why a lot of people go for people's potential
and promises versus action is because it's easy for you to be
able to see different pathways that can be taken versus people
being able to realize that full potential for themselves.
And then rising to the occasion to kind of do it.
Which is why I asked that question.
Because I I think that it is possible to see, you know,
certain situations in a certain way that they presently are not,
but that make you have concern about it or make you have
security in it and ends up playing one way or another and
people second guess themselves. And it really is like, no, you
saw it the right way. It just so happened to be that,
you know, this person either rose to the occasion and so
those concerns that you had are void, or they didn't make the
moves that they needed to make to excel themselves on a certain
path in a positive direction. And so people think that all
they see is the potential, but really it's like people didn't
take the necessary moves that they needed to in order to make
things come out the way that it should have or could have.
I don't feel like I'm inherently biased unless I'm giving a
reading to myself. Like then I'm biased because I
have things I want, things I desire, things that I see
happening. So I think that when it comes to
another person's journey, I'm not biased at all.
You know, I'm giving the message as it's coming through.
But there is free will and there is action and intention that has
to be taken from the person who's sitting and receiving
college. So I think that when it comes to
my own journey, the message could be jumbled or inherently
biased because I have a vision of what I see for myself.
Just like I've gotten readings in the past and people are like,
you're going to make music. And I'm like, what?
Huh. And I still don't see it.
I still, I still don't see it, even though I've, I've been to
studios, I hang out with musicians, a lot of my friends
make music, I still don't see it.
But I've had people say that to me a bunch, not just one reader,
like 10. And then my life path also plays
into that as well and my birth chart.
So there's all these like signs and symbols, but I'm biased to
the fact that I don't see that for myself.
So therefore I'm taking no actions and no steps towards it.
OK, well it is what it is. We'll see what happens when you
come out with your pop single. All right, your question, have
you ever withheld information because the other person wasn't
ready to hear it? Yeah, I've also.
I also have a tendency of like, if I know that something's going
to upset people unnecessarily, I don't want to say it or I'll
make a point of being like, yeah, I'm being open about this,
but I think it's going to upset you or something like that.
But I admittingly so I'm a very guarded person about information
that I choose to share with people, unless it's like, if
it's like I'm doing a spiritual session for somebody, no, I'm
not going to hold back on the message that I'm giving and that
I'm sharing. But if it's people inside of
like my personal life, if I have any type of information or
anything that I feel like is going to upset them, I want to
keep it to myself. But that ends up making people
feel like you're closed off. And even if you do things
because like you want to protect people around you or whatever,
it comes off as secrets or as you being like a closed off
person versus you being like, oh, well, I just thought that
this information would be a burden or that this information
would cause chaos. And so I chose to keep it to
myself. And when I think about it, I
would rather know things good, bad, ugly, whatever, and be able
to have the personal freedom and discernment to handle it how I'm
going to. But that's something that I
really work on as a person. That's something I've been
working on currently. Yeah, I think that I don't like
if you're in a circle, I just read it however that it needs to
be read. Like I don't have any bias to
what's coming out. I just feel like I'm reading the
book of your life. However, like if spirit saying
go to page 37, page 42, skip this chapter, go to that
chapter. I just do it.
So I'm not biased in that sense, but being so spiritually in
tune, I can look around, even on Facebook, and just see where
people are creating their own misery.
So instead of interjecting or being a person who's like
commenting, I just delete them. I haven't been a scroller
recently, like I haven't, I told you, like I've been really like
taking a step back from social media and things like that and
not seeing people's bullshit and fuckery makes life so much more
cool like it. It's so much nicer to live your
own reality versus seeing people's like, bullshit thing.
And we've talked about it before, but like, I think it's
hella weird when people are posting about their relationship
all the time of like, me and Jim had a fight and, you know, Jim's
sleeping on the couch. And then the next day it's like,
Kim brought me chocolates and now we're talking about it.
And then like, we talked and then this happened and it's just
the weirdest fucking thing to me.
Yeah, I feel like if you know in your heart you're going to get
back with that person, don't air out your business.
Like don't tell us that he doesn't wash his ass and has
shit stains in his underwear and then be posting to him a week
later or. Just don't tell anybody about it
because truly at the end of the day, nobody gives a flying fuck.
Yeah, I feel like I just delete people constantly now.
Like I'm constantly deleting, unfollowing and blocking people
who have stank ass energy, who stay in fear, who spread fear
like a wildfire. Like I just don't got no time
for it. Like that's their reality and
they're more than entitled to live whatever reality they want
to live. But I'm so done reading it,
looking at it, or consuming it all together.
I've got the next question for you.
Would you want a romantic partner to read your energy
without asking? I think they would already be
doing that. I feel like reading energy is
like when you meet someone and you're like, I like that person
or I don't like that person or they get on my nerves or out,
you know what I mean? I feel like people are reading
energy and people's auras regardless if you know you're
doing it, regardless if you're tapped into it.
So I would say like that's happening regardless.
Like I've had a lot of people say like, I love your energy.
I love how your energy feels. But what happens is they see
that I'm actually able to sustain this energy.
It's not just like on Fridays or on payday or once a week.
I'm like this. So I'm like this every fucking
day. Like, but I think that I'm
starting to get more like unapologetic and more like
vengeful a little bit. Like if you cross me, you should
be scared at this point. Like I'm so sick of people
thinking that they can take advantage of people's kindness.
Like I'm literally so done with people being manipulative,
whether it's family, friends, acquaintances, people on the
Internet, that you should stay the fuck out of my way if you
know what's good for your health, wealth, or well-being.
Like that's where I'm at now. Like it's bad.
Like I'm so done with people setting in their own misery and
then spewing that around for everyone to read and consume and
absorb. No, fuck you.
Big time. This girl's on one.
No, I agree with you. I think that, but I don't think
that everybody does that inside of relationships.
Like I think that you that you should be able to be in touch
with each other's energy and and whatever.
And sometimes you have to be like, that's not actually the
frequency that I'm on, like we're over here, you know, and
have conversations. But I think that that's how you
are able to adjust, like whether things are going good, whether
things aren't going good. Being able to be sensitive to
understanding, like how your partner's energy is in certain
situations and have an understanding.
And that's like where communication comes in of like
you weren't picking up on this, but this is how this is so you
can recognize it the next time. I think that that's always
supposed to be a thing is like being able to check in with each
other and make sure that those things are good.
But I don't think that a lot of people do that.
I think if you're unhappy in your own internal world, you're
not going to be able to truly gauge what's going on around you
because you're being so consumed and drained by your own inner
world. And I think that when you really
choose to work on your inner world rather than jumping into a
different relationship or thinking something's going to
fix you, like money or a job or a car or whatever, so many
people give that power to side things.
And I think it really all starts within.
And I've seen in the past where I wasn't able to be myself or be
the best version of myself because someone else was
affected by that because they're unhappy.
They didn't want to see me shine.
And I feel like I've really got this reference of like, a lot of
men. Especially men like to squash
their partner like a bug and keep them small.
Keep them small. Don't wear that.
You can't wear that. You got to ask to do this.
What are you doing? Why are you posting that?
You know what I mean? Like men who are unhappy seem to
keep their partner small, but men who are very happy and
secure in themselves build their partner up rather than tearing
their partner down. So I think a lot of the
energetic blockages are people who are unhappy on the inside,
projecting that outward. I've also seen so like to your
point, like you see men doing that in, in very specific ways,
but I've also seen a lot of women who do that too, who are
like, they don't want their partner to be able to grow and
to do things. And like, that is something that
I've really been coming into recently because I, I've noticed
that with like women in my life who they want, they want their
partner to support them and all of these different avenues.
But like their husband has jobs that they hate and they don't
help navigate it so that their husband can have different jobs
or, you know, they, you know, their partner is unhappy in this
way. And all they care about is how
they're being emotionally fulfilled and not how to change
it. And they want, you know, to be
able to talk, walk, think, dress, however they want to, but
they want their partner to be very specific.
And so I think that that's where like communication comes into
play. And it should be like, what are
the things that you need? What are the things that I need?
How do we make each other come to that?
And that's where sensing each other's energy and having those
conversations. And I think it boils down to
communication. And I think we've all been in
dynamics where we're not able to communicate things.
Other people can't communicate things.
That makes the energy funky. And I also think that people can
be too dope ass people who are real shit together.
And there are people who are awful people who end up being
able to like build things. And it all just comes with what
your your checks and your balance for.
Me, it feels like if you're growing as a person alongside
someone, that's super important. But it's like when people are
wrapped up and like, well, this is the version I've always been
and this is what I've always done and I'm not changing it.
This is what my dad did or this is what my mom did.
Like I saw this perspective and it said if you're with a man who
watched his mom struggle, like being a single mom or, you know,
having to work multiple jobs or whatever it may be, they're not
going to physically help you because they watch their own mom
struggle and they see struggle as love, someone who's
sacrificing their own needs for them or sacrificing their own
well-being for them. And so as a child, it's like,
children really do need to see cooperation and like, you know,
support mutually. I didn't have that growing up.
But I think so many people are underestimating the power of,
like, compromise, whether you're with a person, not with a
person, but so many people just want to be right.
They just want to be right. Like, they're not compromising,
you know? So I think in my experience, I
cut women off, but men, I let them stick around a little
longer. You know what I mean?
Like I let them manipulate me a little longer.
But women, like friends, whoever.
I'll never, ever let a woman back into my life that's fucked
me over. But a man, I don't know why I've
let them back in before. I think it also depends too,
Like there are people who you know, to your point, like they
do have that struggle. They do have these certain
things, but then they're like, oh, I take that as a strength
and I have respect for women in these positions or, or you know,
whatever. And I would want to assist them
so that they don't have those struggles and so they don't have
those difficulties. And that's where it's like the
people who choose to see the struggles and things that they
went through that they witnessed as either reasons to continue
that on or as reasons to completely end it and see
something happen and see something different.
And it's like where people's comfortability and complacency
is too. Like if you don't have a problem
with watching somebody struggle and you think that that's how
it's going to be, yeah, you're going to continue that on.
And there are tons of people like that.
And then there are people who are like, I'm going to have the
complete fucking opposite. And they only go for people that
are the complete opposite, you know?
And yeah, I, I think that's where you get extremes and
things though, and, and people that have to have extreme
specifics inside of things. And that's why people won't
break out of cycles and patterns is because they only see the
world as black and white. And they see that this is
exactly what I need and what I'm expecting and exactly how things
need to be instead of being like OK, well I like these things.
I don't like these things. How do we grow and mold and
change these things? And how can I share my
perspective of what I've seen and experienced versus what
you're currently experiencing? And how do we blend those
things? Together.
I feel like this feeds off to the people who are like brought
up in the same environment and like 1 is a crackhead and one is
sober and doesn't touch drugs and then will blame their
parents but the other one took what their parents did and
evolved past it. So I've seen that a lot in my
experience, most men that I've dated have had like mommy or
daddy issues, whether whichever side.
And I feel like that's reflected in their like attachment style,
how they show up in relationships.
And overall, I've learned that I would much rather be alone than
be brought down by limiting energy.
And that's all I've ever seen. So I don't have a good story to
say. I don't have like a, oh, we were
just different people and we evolved and we're, we're cool
and cordial. No, fuck all of them.
They can all fuck off. You know what I mean?
Like I don't have any representation of that.
So I would love to have someone who's like growing and wants to
grow together rather than grow apart because in the past,
people saw my elevation as a threat.
And that sucks because you like them and you want to make
excuses for them or whatever it is.
But the truth is, most people will say most don't want to see
you outshine them. They don't want to see you
recognize that you're better than them because they're
refusing to change or refusing to grow alongside you, which
sucks. Yeah, that's unfortunate.
Is it your question or mine? I think it's yours.
Like I need to ask you. No, I think I'm asking you.
Oh well, we both know I don't like answering the questions, I
like asking the questions. How do we discern between
authentic spiritual work and manipulation such as fear based
readings or exploitative practices?
I feel like how it's making you feel in the moment, like if
you're going into a session and and you're getting a reading
from somebody and it makes you feel like you're scared or it
makes you feel very overwhelmed or very nervous, or it makes you
feel like you know you've got some like weird stuff going on
with you that you didn't realize in the moment.
If you don't, if you're not feeling connected and fulfilled
inside of the moment, there's some type of fear based thing
being pushed at you or manipulation thing because it's
the way that we do our readings. At least it's supposed to be
giving you some sort of a positive guidance.
It's supposed to be making you feel like there's different
pathways and different options for you.
If people are talking to you about different services that
they have during the reading, I don't feel like that's a
manipulative thing. I feel like there are a lot of
times that it's like, OK, I like, for instance, like I might
do like a new client reading with somebody and I have a
conversation with them and I'm like, you know what the the
things that are coming up during this reading, I actually touch
on on my Patreon. That would be really helpful if
that ends up being something that you want to do.
These are different options. And then you can send them on
their way. But if you have somebody who's
like and and that's like a hey, Ioffer this thing here you go as
an example. But then you also have people
who will do a reading and they'll be like, you have a
spider entity attached to your back.
And if you don't pay me $400.00 by the end of the day and then
go take a sip of, you know, white water, then you're going
to die and your children are going to be cursed.
That's somebody being manipulative and using a fear
tactic on you. So if you just feel like
something isn't right, it's not right also to to put out there
that somebody may not be meaning to be manipulative or be a
negative energy for you. Somebody can have all the best
intention, but the way that they connect with energy and the
messages that they're delivering for you in that style, if it
makes you feel uncomfy, then there's a reason for that and
they're just not the person for you to be vibing with.
When I went through like my mentorship program, my mentor
always said to like, make sure you're saying a blessing and
that if the reader doesn't say a blessing, that's a red flag
because they could just be pulling energy from wherever.
Like if they're not setting a circle with you as the main
focal point, they could be letting energy from past
sessions from their own karmic ties, their own blueprint bleed
into your reading. I also feel like if someone
solicits you for a reading, that's a fucking red flag.
That's how you all should know it's a scammer because they're
messaging you first. If you're watching someone and
you book with them, cool. But if someone comes to you and
says you should get a reading with me or you should do this
without you reaching out or inquiring first, that's
manipulation to me. Recommending services during a
session is one thing, but literally DM ING people and
sending your services is manipulation.
So, you know, there's been times I've done a reading and I'm
like, you could really benefit from a chakra clearing or a cord
cutting or whatever, but I never make the session about the
recommendation. I just like briefly say it and
keep it pushing or whatever. But I think some people book
readings with the intentions of giving you false information
because they're not working in the highest and best energy.
They're in low vibrational. Like I'll just be honest, if I'm
getting a reading from someone that drinks all the time, that
does low vibrational stuff all the time, whatever it may be, I
know our energy's not going to be a match.
I just know it's not like remember that shot a girl that
blocked us. Not the name, not the specific
name call. This picture deal this girl had
given me readings me, her and Gemini had hopped on a call,
vibed had a good time. Then out of nowhere she blocked
both of us on everything and I don't know what the fuck that
was about. Like one time I got a reading
from her y'all and she showed up breastfeeding her baby.
I was fine with it she breastfed the whole time.
I did not care. I just don't know why she
blocked me and you and everything.
Like so weird. People get triggered though,
like people. I was going to say that.
Get into your energy and be triggered by your gifts, by your
light, by your path. And that's why I have learned
that getting readings from people who do not know me at
all. They're not my friend.
They're not someone one I've ever met.
They do not know me at all. Has been super impactful for my
journey because I can tell when they're being biased or not
being biased. I can tell when they're being
legit or not being legit. But I've learned that like once
I develop a relationship with someone and they love me or they
like me or they want what's best for me, that comes through in
the reading. Not that it's a bad reading,
it's a great reading. But sometimes it's nice to get
that hardcore, like mic drop reading from someone who does
not fucking know you and they have no way of knowing any of
that. So I think that experimenting
and learning what works for you is important because sometimes,
you know, my reading style is a lot different than other
people's reading styles and whatever in between.
And sometimes you're just going to resonate with someone else's
readings more. But sometimes I think there are
like fluffy readers who keep it very general, like grandma is
here every time or whatever. So I think it's just important
to like try different psychics, try different mediums, get
multiple readings, ask the same question to four different
people and see what works for you, see what's you know, what
reading style and what type. Like I'm shifting away from live
readings and just going into prerecord with like a follow up
call option because I just don't want to be in everyone's energy
all the time. I don't wanna have to be at a
certain place at a certain time because sometimes the energy is
just not good. That's why I keep my spell work
very open and tentative, because sometimes the energy is just not
good for whatever the persons asking.
And I think it's important as a practitioner, as someone who
wants to use their spiritual gifts for others to have fucking
boundaries and know that not all money is good money.
Not all people want to see you shine, and not all people want
to take the message and do anything with it.
They want you to lead them to the water and then they're going
to complain the water doesn't have ice in it or whatever.
I also don't think like, you know, in regards to like that
specific girl and stuff like that.
I also don't think that people necessarily realize when they're
being triggered by something like they don't necessarily know
what it is about you or you and I or whatever that they're like,
hey, I really vibed with this. And then I don't.
But I think that you and I both as people have really high
expectations of people in general.
And it's not something to apologize for.
I've had to come to terms with the fact that I just have really
high expectations and it's because I do not have a lot of
people that I let into my inner circle or that I certainly not
that I trust or you know, going to give loyalty to.
So if I am going to trust people and let them into my circle, I
have very high expectations of and the energy that they give
back and, and just what I'm expecting from them.
And people either really like that and they want to be your
friend or they don't like that and they can't rise to the
occasion And it makes them very uncomfortable and it put it
makes them feel like there's a pressure of some kind.
And I think that whether it be that girl or people who have
been in our community spaces in the past or whatever, I think
that that's it's not an easy thing for people to feel like
there's an expectation. And some people only want to
come and they only want to give the version of who they are in
that moment. And they never want to grow.
And when they see people who constantly want to do better and
who have a new goal and a new mission and a new thing that
they want to achieve, that's another thing.
You and I always have a goal. We always have something,
whether it be family life, business life, you know,
personal, we always have a new goal and something that we're
wanting to reach. And that makes a lot of people
feel very uncomfortable because they like to be consistent or
stagnant. And we are constantly moving and
developing and evolving. And people in our life are
always having to be on that same trajectory.
And it either motivates people or it makes people feel inferior
and uncomfortable and they don't want to put energy in.
And I think that that's where a lot of times we have friendships
lapse or, you know, people who have come on the podcast even
that we've been like, yeah, like, it's a cool vibe.
And then they're like, I love what you're doing.
I'm just going to copy everything that you do and never
do anything for myself. And then we see them fall off
and they don't have anything happening because the same
energy that's working for us and the way that we hustle and do
things isn't going to be the same way that we are, you know?
Yeah, I think there's an evolution.
Like there's people at the beginning of my journey that
really resonated with me. Like big Empress energy.
I loved her collective stuff. I did her tarot class and all
these things, but it was like once she got a taste of like
real money from her gifts, her ego got so loud and like front
and center on the stage and I just stopped resonating with
her. I stopped giving her money.
I stopped booking her circles. I stopped doing her collective
Reiki's and all the things not to say she's not powerful, not
to say her gifts weren't worth money.
I just saw where it was proud of this Louis this over in Spain,
you know, like just different things that just felt
manipulative. It felt ego driven.
It felt self-centered even. And I'm not against her.
I unfollowed her. You know, I like her oils.
I may buy one in the future. But like, there are people that
in the beginning will resonate with you.
But as you grow as a person or as you evolve as a person or as
they're doing the same, you can grow apart.
You know some things are magnets and you stay tight together, but
then there's the opposite side of the magnet that repels each.
Other and it's. The same fucking magnet, right?
Like it's the same magnet that you started with.
It just depends on what and I think sometimes people see
competition that doesn't exist seeing.
Competition that doesn't exist is a thing.
Or people thinking that if you're doing well, it's to
compete with them or it's because you think that you're
better versus I wasn't comparing myself to you, I was comparing
me to me. And I'll be damned if I stay the
same bitch. I got to evolve.
I got to keep on doing different things.
I got to, you know, whatever. Yeah, absolutely.
Let me ask you a question. Do spiritual practitioners have
a responsibility to set boundaries with clients?
And where should those ethical lines be drawn?
Well, I think I'm learning. This.
I learned it the hard way a few times.
You can't be friends with everybody.
Like people get into your community spaces, they get into
your life, they get into your energy, and sometimes they're
leeching onto you as a guide because they don't want to
really do the work. It's like, Oh well, if I meet
with her once a month and get tips and tricks and can text
her, oh, I'm doing the work, but that's not doing the fucking
work. You know what I mean?
So I think that overall I have learned just because someone
wants to be my friend doesn't mean that I need to be their
friend right then or cater to them or, or every client becomes
my friend. Yes, there are plenty of clients
that have became my friend. There are plenty of clients that
I absolutely adore that I don't talk to all the time and I still
see them as a friend. But it's like, you know, this
whole, we went through it before driving from like Kansas and all
these different places to come visit me and then stir shit when
you get here, Fucking weird energy.
So I've just learned the hard way that just because people
want to be in my energy doesn't mean that they should be.
Doesn't mean that they're welcome, even though they might
be like showering me with gifts or hyping me up or constantly
acting like they're my best friend.
It's sometimes for show, it's sometimes for personal gain,
financial gain, spiritual gain. And I've just really learned
that overall, not everyone deserves to be in your energy.
And regardless if they're giving you money, regardless if you
like them, regardless of any intentions involved, you can't
be friends with everyone. And you've got to draw the line
between like client and friend sometimes the hard way.
And I've learned that like, so as far as like meeting people
from the Internet and flying out and doing the crazy shit that
I've done in the past, it worked.
I've saw a lot of beautiful places, but you and I almost got
killed on a fucking ATV in the Moab desert.
So it's like, you can eat crazy bitches all day from the
Internet. They can hype you up, buy your
merch, support your business, but they're not your friend.
So I used. You as an excuse twice this week
just so that you know, and this doesn't have to do with what
you're talking about, but it just popped into my mind.
So I got collaboration offer twice this week from two
different people who were like, I have this going and like I
think that we should partner in it and then the other person was
like I know so and so and like you should collab with them and
I was like, oh, I'm sorry. Paige has been telling me
recently that I shouldn't do collaborations and I'm kind of
tired of getting fucked over on business.
So I'm only doing my own thing and the only person I partner
with is Paige. And this has been heavy in my
readings, so I'm going to stick with this.
And I was like, I'm so excited to tell you on the podcast.
And then it took that coming up for me to be like, listen, I've
been taking the life advice. I mean, that's really real
though. Like from anyone outside looking
in can see Gemini is doing a lot and has done a lot but there
have been so many fake motherfuckers over the years
that want to creep in and and say the dumbest craziest shit.
Like trying to convince her that.
You know that you need them. That you need their ID or that
you need their collab or their energy.
And it's like you're. The source, babe.
Like you're. The plug like they the one that
got me. Was hiring that manager like
quote, you guys can't see the Bunny fingers, but the, the, the
manager and the way that I got like completely just fucked over
and screwed over and that entire business arrangement.
And they recently were actually messaging people inside of my
community space and we're like, Hey, I gave you an astrology
reading in the past. Can you go to my website and can
you leave me a review And can you do this, that and the other.
And so I emailed them and was like, Hey, I'm getting
complaints from people like, can you please not do that?
They'd reached out to like, they'd reached out to me via
e-mail like two or three times. And we're like, this full moon
is coming up. Are you doing anything for it?
Do you need help? Whatever.
And I finally was like, the time for this help would have been
when I was employing you. Now that I'm not employing you,
you know, and they were really mad about it.
But that for me was the last situation where I was like, I'm
going to help out somebody that doesn't have anything going for
them and put in all of this effort where other people don't
put an effort. And I've made it a real thing of
like, I love being a helpful person and I love helping build
people up And I I love being that support, but I am so tired
of being that person and being drained to do it and not having
energy exchange that what no matter who it like I just I
won't like I require an equal energy exchange.
And that coming into business has been so helpful.
And right now I and I have things that I'm like, yeah, I
want to be doing this. I, you know, eventually I'd like
to do that. I'd like to do this.
This is the first time in my business where I'm like, or my
life in general where I'm like, I'm happy with how things are in
this moment. And I don't feel the need to
fucking push, push, push, push in order to have validation on
anything. And that I can just hang.
I don't want new collaborations. I I don't want any of that shit.
I think in the beginning. Of any journey, whether it's
spiritual, being an entrepreneur, or whatever it may
be, you want collaboration. Like you want to connect with
people, you want to share your tips and whatever.
Like hell, I did free readings for a whole freaking year on my
website to anyone who wanted to book one.
But at the same time, I feel like once you get burned a few
times and you actually build some strength and some courage
and some wisdom in the situation, you realize that not
all money is good money. Not all clients are good
clients. Not all collaborations are going
to pay off. And most of them end up being
like a group project in college where one person ends up doing
all the fucking work and everyone else gets a grade and
takes credit for it. And I've learned, especially
with you and I, we have a very similar personality style where
it's like if there's things to be done, like we'll get them
done. But other people see it as like,
oh, well, Gemini will take care of that or Gemini is paying me,
but I'm just going to let her do it.
She does it better. You know, I think there's like a
fine line between people wanting a front row seat to the show so
they can say they know you or the people who really want to be
backstage and see how much it goes into the fucking show.
Because I'll tell you. A lot of people don't realize,
like, even at like a Jelly roll show, how many people are
backstage doing the things they're doing to make that show.
Possible. From like start to finish, it is
so much work, so many semi, so many buses, so many people.
And I just don't think that people realize that like Jelly
gets all this credit. Like the show was amazing,
everything was great, but like there is so much that goes into
that. And even like the staff at the
venues and I feel like that's the same way.
Like with business and in general, you don't see what goes
on behind the scenes. You don't see how many times
I've went through a dark night of the soul realizing that I was
groomed or that I was taking advantage of our things that I
was embodying with shame and guilt actually were not my
fault. Actually, we're not me.
We're not conscious choices or whatever.
That's why a lot of people don't want to explore that.
They want to see the final product.
They want to see the pretty shiny object and sit in the
front row and say, that's my friend, I know them.
But they don't see the blood, fucking sweat and tears that
goes in on the back end. And I think that when you are
generating income on your talents, your abilities, your
wisdom, whatever it is, people see that as something that's
easy. It's not.
They do see it as something. That's easy.
But I also think that a majority of those of us who are building
ourselves that way and who are doing that don't always
understand what our potential is and what our influence in other
people's life is. And like I know that it's only
been recently that I am like. Understanding like.
Maybe I'm the main character in that situation, Maybe I'm the
influential person in that situation, because it really is
like. A part of your healing.
Journey to realize that maybe you're the person that other
people might look up to or that other people are getting
inspiration from versus being the person like I, I think
that's what I didn't realize. I didn't realize that people
were wanting to do things with me because they thought that I
would get them ahead versus I thought people wanted to do
things with me business wise or be my friend because they just
liked me. It what I didn't realize that it
was because they thought they were going to get something out
of me. And that's been that's a really
hard realization to have. And if you're already somebody
who's closed off and has boundaries, that's that's
really, really fucking difficult I.
Completely agree. With that and I think that's
what's so cool and like organic about our project as we've been
doing this for like going on four years and there's never
been like an underlying motive. You know my following has grown
your your following went from zero to fucking 1000 and that
wasn't at the beginning. We didn't have that at the
beginning. We were just like we talk on
FaceTime every week for like 5 hours.
Why don't we record this like this is in?
Time that we're already. Putting in why don't we do
something with this? I will say that I was like, wow,
Jim and I knows how to start the podcast, but if you wouldn't
have known, I would have done the research.
I would have figured like that wouldn't have stopped me from
having a podcast. I'm glad that we were able to do
it together because I see that I would have had a podcast
regardless whether it was a solo project or a duo project I was
going to have. This is like, this is me.
This is what I live for. So when I.
Say like it was nice that you had some background information
you still. Didn't.
Like come and do it all like I did the website I did.
Like we keep it really balanced. I don't think a lot of people
realize like the balance has always been there.
It's just not been so like upfront and in your face, but
the balance was always there. It was more about like the
commitment. A lot of people don't want to be
committed to something unless it's generating income, unless
it's benefiting them or less it's bringing in followers or
whatever. And my favorite thing about the
Internet is people just don't realize that your favorite
influencer that has 300,000 followers has a bunch of Klarna
debt because they do the pay as you go.
They're not in a good place mentally.
They're selling you a dream. They aren't even living.
They rent. You know, even these
entrepreneur people are like, oh, I can make $1,000,000 a
year. Yeah, by selling this bogus ass
course for $3000 a pop. All you need is 10 people to buy
and you made $30,000 in one month.
I get it. But you're not rich, you're not
cute, you're not funny. And I just get annoyed.
Like I can see through the facade now where I.
Don't care if. You want to give me $500?
I don't want to do spell work for you.
I don't care what you're trying to give me.
I'm over it. But in the past, like, Oh my
God, they're investing. In me I have.
To give and give and give and give.
Now I'm like skirt, no, no, thank you.
And with that. Balance too.
Everything. 'S always changing, like our
lives are constantly ebbing and flowing.
And like now that I'm really not doing social media, I make the
promo and the stuff you're posting it on the lollipop
Instagram. You're, you know, when people
message there, you're reaching out to them, You're putting it
on your personals and different things.
There's a lot of things that I'm doing now that are behind the
scenes, things that aren't the in your face things because
those are the things that you're good at.
And right now I'm gonna like protect my peace and stay off
the Internet and social media space and, you know, and figure
out building differently and new.
And that's something that you're really good at.
And that's really helpful for me in this era where for the last
five years, I have consistently had at least 8 projects going at
a time, stressed the fuck out, losing my hair, not sleeping
miserable all the fucking time. And I don't, And now that I'm
like, hey, I'm putting a boundary up on that.
I'm not doing these things. You're doing all of these other
pieces. And it's not like it has to be a
conversation. It's just known.
You're sending me, you know, the episode, I make promo things and
send them to you. Let me know what you think.
Let me know if you need more. And you're putting them out into
the universe. And it's a, it's a checks and a
balances thing. And that's the way that business
partnerships or whatever I feel like are supposed to go is you
should have somebody who's, you know, doing these things and
someone who's doing those things.
And if it feels like it's constantly work, it's not a
passion project anymore, which is why I'm not doing Covenant of
Rejects right now or ever again because something that was a
passion project became not just like there's a difference
between like, oh, I have to put work into it and being annoyed
by it. And just being like, this isn't
even fucking fun anymore. And that's where so many
projects went is like, this isn't even fucking fun anymore.
This isn't work that I want to do.
I don't even like this. And you know, like fuck that.
And. Honestly, that's where like I'm
shifting away from live readings completely because I want to set
my energetic boundary is the fact that if I don't want to do
this on Tuesday and Thursday or whatever the day it is, I don't
want to fucking do it. If I want to do the reading,
I'll get it to you in a window, but it's not a 72 hour turn
around. Like I'm working on the clock
and answering to you. That's what I think was messed
up for both of us is we made it like, Oh my God, you want to
give me your money now I'm answering to you.
Oh, you want me to give you extra insight and guidance in
the DM for free? Oh yeah, I'm giving to you.
I'm giving to you. See my worth, see my worth.
I went through that, you went through that and now I don't
give a fuck. At this point, I do not care
what anyone thinks. Like I am so.
Connected to like the. Lilith energy of fuck around and
find out. I do not.
I'm not really love this version.
Of you because literally I. Don't know if it was like the
miscarriage or the whole unfolding of that that is really
activated. The fact that I I am not here to
live to make other people happy. I'm not here to make sure that
you're doing your spiritual work.
I'm here to be guided to do what I feel called to do.
And if I'm so drained all the damn time, I don't have time for
the gym or for myself or for my own practices.
I knew there was a boundary that was being crossed when I'm doing
all this spell work for other people but was slacking on even
doing any for my own self. But now I'm almost shifting into
an element of I don't want your money.
And the more that I say that, the more people are like, hey,
hey, hey, your Patreon sold out. Is that true?
Or hey, what's up? And if I want to take your
money, I will. And I'll give you an amazing
reading. But I'm going into scarcity
mindset. You, you don't have access to
me. Even when you think you do, you
don't. And if you want access to me, be
low. Be ready to get them doll hairs
out of your wallet because I'm telling you right now when I
come back, y'all are not going to like the pricing.
I'm literally pricing it where I'm no longer accessible.
I am a tool and a resource that you're not abusing anymore.
You're not getting little $44.00 readings every other day so you
don't have to sit with yourself in the dark.
Period. I feel like you.
And I have really like switched our energies and, and like
mirrored each other like opposite since the podcast
started because it used to be that I was the one that was
like, fuck you guys on give up fucks.
And and now I'm like, no, I'm trying to like be a gentler
version of myself and be more like my feminine energy and like
not have to be so aggressive and assertive all the time.
And like, I'm really trying to find that person And you're
like, I'll fucking set you on fire.
Fuck you. Don't pay me all I got to say.
Is what I have activated in my personal spell work.
You better not be speaking I'll on my name or you won't be happy
with your results and I don't care what happens to you at this
point. See, I used to care.
I used to like, Oh my God, I don't want them.
No, I want you to feel it. I really want you to feel it.
When I started seeing people weave in their tongue swells and
their hair falls out and the tires fall off their car and to
spell work, I was like, huh, that's crazy.
And now I'm like, damn, they were before their time.
They knew what the fuck was up. And I'm not saying that I'm out
here doing that to just innocent people, but if you have one,
I'll bone in your body, one jealous bone, one envious bone
that you're sending towards me, you better watch the fuck out.
You better put a full body cast on because I don't know what
will happen to you. Like put a helmet on in the car,
wear a mask. You need it.
You know what I mean? Like I'm seriously at that point
and I think that all of the nice girl like, oh, I want to be
rated E for everyone. I want to help everyone.
I want to save everyone. I do not care anymore.
Like after you've done went to the depths of your own soul and
saw your shadow and faced your demons as loudly as possible and
as real as possible, I no longer need approval from anything in
this world. I no longer work for any
energies in this world. That's people, places, things
included. Like I'm on a you're either with
it or you're getting left behind.
I'm no longer dragging you with me energy.
Amen. Are we ending?
On that, no, because that's the perfect thing on a question.
OK. Is it?
Your turn or mine, it's yours. OK.
How do we balance? Individual's spiritual paths
with collective responsibility, ensuring that we don't
contribute to cultural appropriation or the misuse of
sacred traditions. Educating yourself.
And we've talked about that before when we've talked about
like closed practices on things like that.
I think that researching things and educating things for
yourself while you're figuring out what works for you, there's
not a problem with you doing with you learning certain
things. It's you invoking energies or
whatever that you're not understanding that you aren't
specifically supposed to be working with.
So I, I don't really, I feel like that's a really difficult
question because I feel like there's a lot of different
pieces. I don't think that it fucks with
the collective in any capacity for you to fuck around and find
out, but I think that it fucks with you.
So if you're going to be doing anything that's manipulating
energy in any sort of way, you should understand that there's
always a, a reaction to something.
That something that you do always has a consequence.
It might be a positive consequence, it might be a
negative consequence, but regardless of what you're doing,
there's always a consequence. And I use money spells as an
example all the time when I'm teaching classes.
You can do a money spell and you, you know, your purpose of
it is that you have more income coming into your home.
The consequence of that is that you're going to have to work
more. You're going to have, you know,
did you put specifics into that spell working for that money
coming to you ethically for you not having to go out and do
something that you don't want to do to make that money come in,
You know, is that money that you're then going to have to pay
back later on that you're not going to have.
So there's always just a consequence with whatever it is
that you're doing energetically. I think that it affects you
personally and then what you choose to do with your fuck
around and find out is what affects other people and has a
collective reaction to something.
It might just affect, you know, it if it might just affect you
having this money pouring in, whatever at first, but then
that's going to trickle into your family as far as like,
what's the consequence for that money?
Where did you get that money? How did you get that money?
Are you cool with the way that you got that money?
Can you, you know, was that part of your ethics and your morals
how you got it? Did you have to take from
somebody else to get it? And I think that's when it
starts to affect people around you and.
To add to. That I feel like I'm real big on
amplification, like of what I'm sending out.
So like, I'm not going to send you anything that you haven't
physically tried to send out to someone else, whether it's just
like shady ass, enter stealing, being manipulative, being a
narcissist, just whatever it is that you're doing, I'm about to
amplify that back to you. So also I got to say is if you
want to stay above board with everything, don't be sending ill
will out there because the person who mirrors it amplifies
that to you. You're not going to like it.
And the universe will return whatever you're putting out.
And I do think that we as practitioners have to learn
deeper into our craft to get to the breaking point where it's
like, wow, I can't save everyone, but I was trying, not
you lead yourself to burnout. So I think that's where both of
us taking a step. Back is so.
Divinely guided because most people would not, especially at
the height of their social media presence or the height of their
business. All this money is trying to come
in. But when you tell the universe,
I'm good on that, I'm going to take a step back and focus on
me, it's only going to give you more.
So I really feel like nothing worth losing can be lost, but
you have to put the energy and intention out there to to
receive what you are. I truly feel.
Like everything that you and I are stepping back from right
now. Like you, you know, you're
stepping back from the live readings and what you were
doing. I'm stepping back from social
media and creating content and whatever I feel like that's
freeing up so much time and energy and like mental space and
freedom for so many other things to come in and for us to be able
to see new directions. I would, I have been operating
on burnout for so long and like frustration that it doesn't
matter to me that it was the height of, you know, social
media or I was making the most money that I've ever made or
anything else like that. Personal peace and being able to
see different options, and I know you're experiencing that
too, is so much more comfort than the dollar amount or the
the feeling of success or anything that it really comes a
point where it's like the success isn't worth the mental
exhaustion. And what even is that success?
Like, yeah, OK, cool. I reached the goals that I had.
It really doesn't fucking feel as good as you think it's going
to feel. And, and I'll say that like I
hit every fucking goal that I set out for myself.
That success feeling feels fucking lonely.
People want to pull from you and drain you.
And if you are not doing the things that truly make you
fucking happy and fulfilled, it doesn't.
Doesn't matter the money, it doesn't matter the people.
It feels fucking lonely and draining.
And that's why they. Say rich and famous and all
these people like they're just people and they have more
problems than you could imagine. So with that note, money won't
fix your problems. Healing will.
And we will see you next time in fucking Candyland.
Bye, guys. Bye.
Uh huh. Yeah, he says.
She's so sweet, man. Come on.
Like the rapper live me like a lollipop.
Lollipop, lollipop, lollipop, lollipop, lollipop, lollipop,
lollipop. You want to swallow my spirit
and penetrate my aura? Taste.
All of my consciousness is obvious.
We're goddesses full of the divine femininity.