1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:12,960 Yeah, you said she's so sweet like a rapper. 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,640 Me like a lollipop. Lollipop, lollipop. 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,120 What the fuck is up, everybody? Welcome back to Lick it Like a 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,520 lollipop. This is actually the first 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,360 episode that we're having back for the new season, for season 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,560 four, and we are popping off with a guest, so I'm going to 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,920 leave it as a rampage. Yeah, so we've got Gabby 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Benacquista and she is the owner of Tainted Angel, which you all 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,240 probably know what it is because she did a Bunny XO collab. 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,120 And you know, our following is very intertwined with Bunny's 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,280 following as well. So welcome, Gabby. 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,320 How are you today? I'm good. 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,080 Thank you guys so much for having me. 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Yeah. So this is your first interview. 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,040 Yeah. Yeah. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,600 So for pop and cherries and doing doing all the new things. 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,600 So you're an entrepreneur, you own a business, but I know that 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,360 you have like evolved into this. So let's go back to like who you 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,080 were pre tainted Angel, pre all of the changes I know you've 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,080 made in the last couple years. Like where are you from? 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Are you from Ohio? I am. 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:31,720 So I'm originally from Columbus, OH and I moved to Tampa, FL five 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,760 years ago and I lived there for four years. 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,960 So I just moved back home to Ohio one year ago this January. 25 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:43,360 So I've only been doing the whole entrepreneurship for one 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,280 year. A little bit of background, I 27 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,520 came from a strip club. I was a bartender at a strip 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,640 club and my best friend highlight, he was already very 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,400 established here in Columbus. He had Holy Center was popping 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,560 off and he had this idea that, you know, he wanted to start a 31 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,320 female clothing brand, but obviously men have no idea how 32 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,680 women's clothing fits or how to market it. 33 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,680 And I just knew the money was amazing, don't get me wrong. 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,080 Like that was something that I will never, ever take away from 35 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,600 the club, But I had no future in it. 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,080 I know that there was a ceiling to it. 37 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,960 And once him and I just started talking about that and, you 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:40,280 know, I was 27, I was 2726 and bartending wasn't going down a 39 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,000 good path. I was drinking a lot to cover up 40 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,120 a lot. And it was easy. 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,640 It was easily accessible too. And I was getting paid to do it. 42 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:54,400 So at the same time it in my head it was OK. 43 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,320 But once we started talking about like, this is just not 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,680 what I have destined for me in life. 45 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,480 We he was like, you know, let's just just move home and just, he 46 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,360 always says trust your boy. And he was like, move home and 47 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,520 trust your boy. And here we are one year later, 48 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:22,280 and it's been crazy a ride. And one of my things is like 49 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,680 when you are in an industry where there's like a lot of 50 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,040 drinking and drugs and stuff like that, especially like strip 51 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,960 clubs, but even just like the restaurant and entertainment 52 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,000 business in general. How do you kind of separate 53 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,760 yourself from the people who are wanting to like party and and be 54 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,760 going down that road and be like, you know what, I'm 55 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,640 actually going to go like do the entrepreneur and like the 56 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,920 responsible, like go get my bag moment. 57 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,480 So I had a very eye opening moment that happened for me. 58 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,160 I have a 5 year old niece right now, think she was around three 59 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:04,600 years old at the time. And what really made me change 60 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,960 my mind about what I was doing was when she started putting on 61 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,960 my outfits and saying Gigi, I want to be like you. 62 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:19,320 I want to go to work with Gigi and I'm like, that is not what I 63 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,160 want my niece to remember. Gigi Bai is these, you know, 64 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,480 outfits and coming home at 6:00 in the morning and sleeping 65 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,520 until 4:00 PM like that was. So that was honestly what was 66 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,560 like this is it that I I can't because I love her dearly. 67 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,560 She's like my own. So I was like, I can't do this. 68 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,720 Like this is kind of embarrassing. 69 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,520 So I know that you have a pretty big TikTok following and I know 70 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,800 that you have went viral a few times for a couple videos. 71 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,960 And I love that video where you're like, if you can go a few 72 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,040 days without talking to me, never speak to me again or 73 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,000 whatever. And I probably. 74 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Love that video because that was so real. 75 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Like I felt that so deeply. So you move back to Ohio? 76 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,920 What does Ohio have for you? Is your family there? 77 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,280 Like, do you have a lot of friends there? 78 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,560 And you said you grew up there, so is everyone? 79 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Is that like home and everyone's there? 80 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,560 This is home. I always knew that even living 81 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,400 in Florida, I knew this is not my home. 82 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,440 I, you know, I tried it for four years and my mom always kept 83 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,320 saying give it a year, give it a year because my family actually 84 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,560 moved there. So my mom, my sister, my 85 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,160 grandparents and my brother all live in Florida. 86 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,440 So I moved there and tried to, you know, do the family thing 87 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 and live in Florida and it just wasn't for me. 88 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,800 And I have aunts and cousins and grandparents here and my stepmom 89 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,720 and stuff, they're here. But it, it mainly was I'm such 90 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,440 a, my friends are my family type people type person. 91 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,280 And all of my friends were here. You know, I was traveling back 92 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:05,200 and forth from Florida to Ohio probably twice a month just 93 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,400 because this was where I was unplugging at from the strip 94 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,640 club and this was where my my friends were. 95 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:17,080 My fun was. And because it wasn't my commute 96 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,760 in Florida was two hours. So when you asked Gem and I, how 97 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,000 did I separate myself from the ones that were partying and you 98 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,600 know, doing drugs and whatever I knew at the back of in the back 99 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:36,640 of my head after this shift? I have a 2 hour commute home so 100 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,320 I knew when the lights are coming on at two AMI probably 101 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:47,960 need to stop drinking around 11:30-ish because that commute 102 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,920 is going to smack the shit out of me, let alone if we go to 103 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,440 after hours or anything. I was getting home at 8:00 AM. 104 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,600 See, and I think the people who end up taking themselves out of 105 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,760 those situations and end up building something for 106 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,480 themselves, they're always the people who are like, no, I 107 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,120 treated it like a job instead of treating it like my lifestyle. 108 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160 I went there, I clocked in, I did what I had to do. 109 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,280 I made my bag, I went home. And I think that it really shows 110 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,040 to you your dedication to whether you were working, you're 111 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,840 working for yourself, but you're working for somebody else too, 112 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,040 when you're, you know, at a strip club or, or doing 113 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,560 whatever. And so it really shows like your 114 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:33,160 dedication to your hustle and to yourself to commit to the 115 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,600 driving 2 hours there, two hours back, making the responsible 116 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,920 choices to be like, Hey, I'm going to stop drinking at this 117 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,480 time and go home. So like, I'm not surprised that 118 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,560 you end up building something for yourself out of that because 119 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,320 that's like a lot of self-discipline and not a lot of 120 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,160 people can do that. Thank you. 121 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,840 I never looked at it like that. Thank you. 122 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Were you interested in dancing? Is that what like what put you 123 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,720 in at the strip club? Or did you just know, hey, I can 124 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,120 make money here and. So it honestly, I say it was 125 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,040 like a blessing in disguise. So I was working actually at a 126 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:16,760 radio station in Tampa, FL and I plan to move back to Ohio one 127 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,200 year prior than when I actually did. 128 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,960 And so when I was planning this, you know, me and a girlfriend of 129 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,880 mine, we were going to get an apartment together. 130 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,160 We had it kicked out. My move date was already set. 131 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,400 I put in my two weeks at the radio station, it was done and 132 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,799 our move fell through. I ended up not moving, but then 133 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,520 I had no job. And I remember posting in this 134 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,880 like group on Facebook for servers and bartenders in 135 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Florida. And I just was like, look, I'm 136 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,560 looking for a job. Like this is what happened. 137 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,920 I don't have experience in bartending, but I'm very quick 138 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,680 to learn. And someone, my manager from the 139 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,400 club actually found me on that page and reached out and was 140 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,280 like, look, I'm willing to train you. 141 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,160 It's in Orlando though. So are you willing to make that 142 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,320 commute? Our girls make great money. 143 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:15,560 And I remember I went in there, interviewed with her and I was 144 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:21,640 like, these girls are carrying around stacks of money, like 145 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,080 not. And we're not, we're talking 146 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,400 about a Monday night. Like it's not supposed to be 147 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,520 like this in here. And these girls had, I mean, it 148 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,520 was already nine. It was 9:00 at night. 149 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,200 The club wasn't even popping like that. 150 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,960 And they were already just stacked. 151 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,560 And I was like, you know what, I got to do it. 152 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,240 I got to do it. Like I have 0 experience in 153 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,320 bartending, but we're going to fake the funk on this and we're 154 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,280 going to make it work. And that's exactly what I did. 155 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Did you know about like, saving your money at that time and like 156 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,960 investing in things for yourself and putting things to the side, 157 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,640 or were you just like throwing your dollar bills around? 158 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,400 I was blowing money fast because it was coming in fast. 159 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,520 And from I went from, you know, getting $11.00 an hour at the 160 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,520 radio station that I was literally just giving my 161 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,480 paycheck back to just my car alone and gas and tolls because 162 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Florida has tolls. And so I was like, dude, this 163 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,640 sucks. Like that sucks. 164 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,000 So once I was bartending and Monday nights I was making $1000 165 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,520 and it's cash. Like I was able to pay cash on 166 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,480 my car, no one could tell me anything. 167 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,760 No one could tell me anything like I have money do. 168 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,880 You think that what I was going to say, do you think that sets 169 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,480 you up for like an unrealistic expectation of like what reality 170 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,880 is 'cause I know that my, in my life's like life span over the 171 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,320 last 10 years, Like what I wanted at 20 to what I wanted at 172 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,640 30. Like we're very different 173 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,080 things. And I look back and I'm like, 174 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 maybe I should have saved some of that money or maybe I should 175 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,400 have stayed home longer or whatever. 176 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,040 And I think that sometimes you get put into those industries 177 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,720 where people can make money really quickly, especially the 178 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,120 sex industry, only fans, things like that. 179 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,840 And I just feel like sometimes it goes to people's head about 180 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,400 what's possible and they, you know, create this lifestyle or 181 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,840 this persona that is very fragile and not long lasting. 182 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,200 So do you like that it took a while for you to adjust to like 183 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,920 where you're going now, where there is more consistency and 184 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,880 you have to put in work and there's more playing the long 185 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,240 game, You know what I mean? Like it's not an overnight 186 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,600 thing. 1,000,000% It definitely set me up for an unrealistic 187 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,240 expectation of just life. You know, I only, I worked at 188 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,160 the bar for such a short amount of time, but I worked so many 189 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,440 shifts, so I was able to make so much money in a short amount of 190 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,720 time. And I think that's even 191 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,760 something that I still struggle with today. 192 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,520 I mean, even a year into being an entrepreneur, I think I still 193 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,880 find myself looking back at, you know, wow, you know, I used to 194 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,760 make this or, you know, I still follow the girls, I'm still 195 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,200 friends with all the bartenders there. 196 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,560 So it's like I see their posts and I'm busting my ass, you 197 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,000 know, doing this. And don't get me wrong, I will 198 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,280 never discredit bartenders at all because it is not an easy 199 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,400 job, but pretty advantage is real in a bar. 200 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,720 So, and I'm I'm not going to lie about that. 201 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,120 So it's like the the work is different that I'm doing now and 202 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,920 comparing it to I used to stand around and look pretty and 203 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,840 bullshit drinks if I didn't know what I was making and I would 204 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,480 make great money. And now I'm really putting in 205 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,680 the work and really busting my ass and making equal as money as 206 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:52,960 much money 100% more in the long run savings wise. 207 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,840 But it's like it definitely set me up and I do find myself still 208 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,520 comparing what I used to make on a Monday. 209 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,080 So I feel like too, we've talked, sorry, we've talked in 210 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,800 the past on here about like, you know, we're weren't raised to be 211 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,960 able to know what to do with large amounts of money or even 212 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,440 money that goes above just like our basic needs and having to 213 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,840 break out of like generational trauma cycles of like finance 214 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,960 and always being worried about lack. 215 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,240 And it's one of those topics too where like everybody has an 216 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,200 opinion on it. So you either have people that 217 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,000 are super frugal and they're like, don't spend any of your 218 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,280 money at all and or you have the people that are like you only 219 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,760 get one life, like blow everything that you have. 220 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,000 And so it is hard to learn like how to self regulate and be 221 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,760 like, OK, but I got all this money like I'm going to keep on 222 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,520 making it then because look what I'm bringing in. 223 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,520 And just because you have like a peak success at A at a time and 224 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,200 it's rolling in, doesn't mean that that's going to be a 225 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,560 longevity. Do you feel with your business 226 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,440 like there's been like, what's it called? 227 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,040 Like peaks and valleys where you're like, yeah, it's fucking 228 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,360 popping. And then you're like, oh, it's a 229 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,800 little bit of a lull. And I got to like step up my 230 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,640 marketing. Every drop has been completely 231 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,280 different. I will say I've been blessed 232 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,720 since day one that there is, I'm not going to lie about that, I 233 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,960 there is. We have had one drop in a year 234 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,120 and we drop two to three times a month. 235 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,080 We've had one drop that did not sell out. 236 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,160 I am, I have been so blessed for that. 237 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,000 And I feel like I'm at such an advantage as opposed to some 238 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,480 other people that do really start, you know, a business from 239 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,120 the absolute ground up. I will never say that I did 240 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,160 that. I came into this blessed with my 241 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,080 best friend's, you know, networks and connections that he 242 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,320 had and, and his fan base that he already grew for so many 243 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,280 years. And then just adding a girl to 244 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,520 it. I was just at such an advantage. 245 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,520 And then put them in some clothing that they've been 246 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,960 wanting for so many years. So I just, I feel like I was so 247 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,360 blessed with this situation that I will never compare mine to 248 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,280 someone that has really got it out the mud because I have not. 249 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,560 But it's, it's just been such a blessing. 250 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:20,880 I mean, literally since day one, the, the love and the acceptance 251 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:26,400 that I've gotten just from so many people that were strangers 252 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,160 and now our family. It's just I'm, I'm, I've been 253 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,120 blessed. I've been very blessed. 254 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,000 And you know, something that's really cool about that is like 255 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,560 when you do collaborate with people who inspire you and who 256 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,920 make you feel seen and heard, I think things are just more 257 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,400 successful. And I tell Gemini this a lot. 258 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,680 Like when you are trying to sell something like these coaches 259 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,080 we'll talk about like spiritual coaches, they're trying to sell 260 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,280 you something and they want these $5000 launches where they 261 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,480 get ten people to pay three or $4000 or whatever. 262 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,960 And you know, they're literally getting 20 to $30,000 in a month 263 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,520 based on you needing their services or needing them. 264 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,400 But it seems, and it is very scammy because there is nothing 265 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,240 that a spiritual mentor could do for me for four or $5000 in six 266 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,080 weeks that's going to do anything for me. 267 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,720 And we talk about that. And I think that you are coming 268 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,920 in at this point in like that divine feminine energy where you 269 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,600 can be more receptive and receiving other than being like 270 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,560 in that scarcity. Oh my gosh, I've invested my 271 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,320 last $1000 in this drop and it hasn't sold kind of thing. 272 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,120 So it's like, yeah, I think that's where that success comes 273 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,040 in. It's because when we go in in a 274 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,280 more nurtured state where there isn't fear and there isn't worry 275 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,040 or concern about how am I going to pay my bills if I launch this 276 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,040 or if I, you know, give give this promo package to whoever. 277 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Like this is costing me money. And a lot of people just don't 278 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,760 realize that when it comes to business. 279 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,560 Like how how much it takes to like really invest in your 280 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,720 dreams. And so it's wonderful to like 281 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,280 have that support for you because a lot of people have 282 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,839 amazing ideas and they will not bet on themselves. 283 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:14,920 So sometimes we need that person, you know, in our life 284 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,359 that's like, no, I got you. Like let me help you and you 285 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,720 help me. And so I love that because that 286 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,280 does come back to you because later you will be able to 287 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,200 inspire someone with your story and be able to share that 288 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,280 message that like it may not happen the way that you thought 289 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,880 it was going to happen. But I know you had mentioned 290 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,880 that you would always thought you would make some type of 291 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,280 clothing brand or always wanted to make a clothing brand. 292 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,240 So what do you think is like your biggest manifestation that 293 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,880 is happening right now with like what you wanted years ago to 294 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,560 like now? Like what is the biggest 295 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,240 manifestation that's happened that has like? 296 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,120 Honestly, I'm being seen like that is it sounds so small to 297 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:03,520 people, but I knew that I always was destined for greater in this 298 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,600 world. I didn't know what it was. 299 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,040 I didn't know how I was going to get there. 300 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,320 I I didn't know if I was ever going to get there. 301 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,320 But I just knew from day one. And my grandma has always told 302 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,400 me this, the way I am in front of like a camera and where I am 303 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,800 in front of people and the way I can interact. 304 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:27,320 And I'm such an extrovert. I just knew I was, I had so much 305 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,080 more like for life and, and for myself. 306 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:38,920 So it's like the way that I can connect with women, not only 307 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,760 just being who I am, having the story that I have, knowing that 308 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,520 I can connect with them on so many levels, not only through a, 309 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:53,240 a piece of clothing, but it is really, it's just, it's such an 310 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,960 amazing feeling. Like I, I don't even know how to 311 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,680 describe it. It really is. 312 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:07,080 I feel like too a piece of what's going to have you like be 313 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,440 attracting other people's energy, not just now, but in the 314 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,680 future too, is the fact that you're able to recognize where 315 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,840 other people are assisting you along on your journey and you 316 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,480 have loyalty and dedication to those people. 317 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,640 And I don't know how many times that you've mentioned, you know, 318 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,800 highlight well, you've, you've just done this interview for, 319 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,600 you know, the last 20 minutes or whatever. 320 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,720 But you, you give so much acknowledgement and 321 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,760 appreciation. And, you know, there are so many 322 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,640 people in the world who they get assistance in all these various 323 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,200 ways, whether it be, you know, friends, whatever. 324 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,920 And then as soon as they're starting to get a piece of what 325 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,120 they consider to be abundance or success, it's like, well, I put 326 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:53,400 in all this work, so fuck you and forget where it is that 327 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,760 they're coming from and the, and whatever. 328 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,160 And the fact that I, I want to say something too, as you were 329 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,840 like, you know, I, I didn't start from the mud up and 330 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,600 whatever like some other people did. 331 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,000 But truly, even if you have somebody else who, who has a 332 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,040 following or has connections or whatever, you are still having 333 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,400 to sell yourself and still having to share your energy with 334 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,200 people. So like, don't limit yourself 335 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,200 too. Because like you, just because 336 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,840 somebody else had work in and connections, that doesn't 337 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,280 automatically mean that people love you. 338 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,960 I've met amazing people who have some. 339 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,720 Thank coochie friend and I'm like no fuck your friend for 340 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,320 real you're. Selling. 341 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:38,560 Yourself too, for sure. For sure, I think the way you 342 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:46,480 know, I I live with light, so I am seeing it first hand what it 343 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,640 looks like when hard work pays off. 344 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,440 I mean, for God's sakes, like the plaques on the wall, they're 345 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,040 not mine, but I have nothing to do with that. 346 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720 That is his. So it's I think just being a 347 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,080 family on the wall and just being a chapter in, in this book 348 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,760 of his that I I wish I was around for the 30 some years 349 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,320 that, you know, he's been writing it, but I haven't just 350 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,240 the three years that we have been friends. 351 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:18,040 The level of success that I've seen this man reach and he's not 352 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,160 even at his fullest potential is really so inspiring and on many 353 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,280 levels as being, you know, his business partner, as being his 354 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,360 best friend, as just being, you know, he's really a mentor to me 355 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:34,000 in many ways, even though he may give me shit in a different way 356 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,080 that somebody else may. But it's really, it just shows 357 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,960 me like you can get all this, like this is possible. 358 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:48,000 He has a story himself that is completely different than mine. 359 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,240 And all odds were against him as well. 360 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,800 So it's like it really, I'm living in somebody's bubble that 361 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,440 is showing me on a daily like this is possible for anyone. 362 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,240 And, you know, I think that's what's really cool about like, 363 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,320 life whenever we just go out there and live it and take 364 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,560 risks. Cuz you could have been like, 365 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,640 no, I'm going to stay in Florida and save some more money and 366 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,320 I'll be home in six months. And then he had this 367 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,320 conversation with someone else and they're walking into that 368 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,680 space. You know, it's like so many 369 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,720 people sleep on their blessings because when the door is open, 370 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,600 they're afraid to go through it. And then later they will be 371 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,040 crying about the door because it closed or they've missed that 372 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,120 opportunity. And that's what I always love 373 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,640 about connecting with people on a podcast is every time you 374 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,600 start a podcast or you talk about your podcast, people are 375 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,280 like, I'm going to start a podcast, I'm going to do a 376 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,640 podcast. Got a good idea for a podcast? 377 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,480 And it's just like when a person's heavily tattooed and 378 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,960 people want to talk to you about tattoos, you know, like people 379 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,800 like to use other people's success to like quote UN quote, 380 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,720 inspire them. But really, like, I think the 381 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,800 most beautiful thing about creativity is you never know 382 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,760 what's going to open up for you, like when you're expressing 383 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,680 yourself. And the one thing I want to say, 384 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,240 and I know that this has been said before, but the whole holy 385 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,200 center line, the quality is crazy. 386 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,280 And I really do want some Tain and Angel pants, but I'm afraid 387 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,440 that the jacket size and the pants size like them being the 388 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 same wouldn't like work for me. So I've been waiting to like go 389 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,400 to the store in Columbus in a couple months when I go up there 390 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,080 for the Jelly show. But like the quality just of the 391 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,280 holy center stuff because I have some of it, the sweats and 392 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,920 stuff, it's insane. Like it is insane. 393 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Like it is unmatched to what we're getting as like fast 394 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,520 fashion or like whatever. Like this should it is wild. 395 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,720 And I loved like highlights business model about like giving 396 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,440 away stickers because I've always done that. 397 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,680 I give away stickers to everyone because like, I want you to 398 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,920 stick this to your car or, or your door or on a bar or 399 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,840 whatever. And so that's something that 400 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,440 we've done for the podcast is like we're constantly giving 401 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,560 away stickers and like promoting that. 402 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,480 And I think, you know, highlight has like started in, you know, 403 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,280 one air arena, which was like music and stuff. 404 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,640 And then he's just like sprinkled that shit around in so 405 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,560 many ways. So he is very inspirational. 406 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400 And I'm really glad that, you know, he was able to connect us 407 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,560 because, you know, I at first was like, not sure if you all 408 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,840 were together. And I know everyone layer this 409 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,040 out. Her and highlight are not 410 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,720 together. You all, we know that you all. 411 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,280 They're not. Together, not together, but 412 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,320 everyone thinks that. And I think that really just, 413 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480 like, is a testament to your bond, like your energy and 414 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,760 chemistry together. So Gemini has recently been 415 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,200 going viral on TikTok and is getting like thousands of 416 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,920 followers a day and like, just really popping her shit. 417 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,480 And yeah, she's like, really been growing and putting in all 418 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,200 this effort. And that's another person. 419 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Like to say, like, hard work pays off is like, you never know 420 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,120 when your hard work's going to pay off. 421 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,840 Like and I know like you did that Bunny collab and that I 422 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,320 couldn't even get on there. Like I couldn't get on there to 423 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,400 order one and then I missed the pre-order somehow. 424 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,440 I don't know how, it just didn't tell me I think, but I get your 425 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,600 emails and it was like sold out quick and I was like that. 426 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,960 Shit went so crazy. I mean, we already had high 427 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,640 hopes for it, you know, Anything we knew that we were going to do 428 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,160 with Bunny was going to be out of this world, but that shit 429 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,760 went crazy. Like I, it wouldn't, it was the 430 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,320 funniest thing because that week light was out of town and our 431 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,200 brand manager Jackie was out of town. 432 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,080 So, and we are just, we're a three man band over here. 433 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,200 So fulfillment, design, everything is US three. 434 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,680 So I had all these damn orders coming in. 435 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,440 My computer was freezing up and every time I was getting closer 436 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,120 to like I only had, you know, 70 orders left. 437 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,720 I think I was at 70 orders left for an hour because they just 438 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,440 kept coming in like it was crazy. 439 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,440 But that was, I can't even describe the feeling of seeing 440 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,840 that drop go so crazy like that after just doing this for one 441 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,600 year. That was something that people 442 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:18,160 dream about doing years into entrepreneurship and going back 443 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,640 to being so blessed with lights, connections and networks. 444 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:28,000 That was one that came from him that I have been so blessed to. 445 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,600 To have been able to do that with Bunny and it was just 446 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,480 amazing from day one to the end of it and I'm so excited if we 447 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,840 do some more. Yeah. 448 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,560 Do you have other things that you're wanting to like branch 449 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,640 into? Like I know that you have this 450 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,160 clothing line that you're doing together. 451 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,000 Are there other things that you want to do independently or are 452 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,960 you really about the like two man, three man brand right now 453 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,480 and just like pumping that out? So that has been what I've been 454 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,760 focusing on for the last year. But after having, you know, some 455 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,680 conversations with my brand manager that, you know, I do 456 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,800 have separate following on TikTok that is completely 457 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,240 different than what my following with Tainted is. 458 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,080 That was something that I want to now that, you know, Tainted 459 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840 is now established and doing amazing and we're in a great 460 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,480 flow with that one. Now I kind of want to shift 461 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,840 energy and focus on and my following and expanding who I am 462 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,400 and not only doing the brand awareness for Tainted, but doing 463 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,120 my own brand awareness. And so I have some few things 464 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,480 coming up this week. And you know, your guys's 465 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,920 podcast. This is just there's so many 466 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480 blessings coming from all different directions. 467 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,360 That is, is for me and tainted will always come with me. 468 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,680 But it's, you know, it's Gabby. It's not you're the girl from 469 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520 the photo shoots or you're the girl from the pictures. 470 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,520 You know, like it's me. And I do want to say like yours, 471 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,800 marketing is great, like the marketing for your drop today. 472 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,800 Did something drop today? Yeah, it's gonna. 473 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,560 Be on Thursday it. Looks so good. 474 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,000 And me and Gemina, you know, we live so far apart, like she 475 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,240 lives in Idaho and like we don't ever get to do any good 476 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520 marketing. So like that's kind of our goal 477 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,440 is to like step that up, you know, because it is hard. 478 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,680 We're both running separate businesses, then we're trying to 479 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,760 run a business together from across the country. 480 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,600 So, you know, I can imagine like how much ground that you all can 481 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,040 truly cover, especially like I know that you set up your merch 482 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,080 and handle all the merch on tour. 483 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,800 Let's talk about that. So for those listening and know 484 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,840 who Doobie is, Doobie and Highlight are kind of like a duo 485 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,520 and that's where the plaques on the behind the scenes are on the 486 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,680 wall. And you all just went to Canada. 487 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Tell us about that. We did. 488 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,160 So we did. We were out in Canada for 12 489 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,440 days. We we visited Winnipeg, 490 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver. It was beautiful, very 491 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,760 beautiful. We're actually going to go back 492 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,360 in July and hit Toronto and Montreal, but so, yeah, so we go 493 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,720 on tour. We did a tour from September to 494 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,440 after Thanksgiving this past year and we went all over the 495 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,280 United States and, you know, we are driving, we're flying some. 496 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,440 But yeah, so I because we have, you know, Tainted Angel is a 497 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,680 sister brand to Holy Sinner. And of course, Holy Sinner and 498 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Batshit Crazy go on the road on tour. 499 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Tainted is right along there with it. 500 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,080 And I'm running the merch booth. I'm selling it and I'm busting 501 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,400 ass. And but it's so much fun to me 502 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,440 because it's kind of like a merch and greet. 503 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,360 I kind of make a a joke out of it because there's so many 504 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,920 people that I get to meet that do follow me on Instagram or 505 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,680 follow highlight and they know me, you know, just from his 506 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,240 page. So when I'm getting to put names 507 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,080 with faces and getting to meet people that I have been talking 508 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,840 on, you know, to on Instagram that I've never met them, but we 509 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,920 talked, that has been so much fun. 510 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,000 And that was been that's a journey on its its own. 511 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,440 I've met so many people in so many places that I probably 512 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680 would have never chose to go, but tour took me there and it 513 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400 it's been it was amazing. Tour was just great. 514 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,280 So many memories were made. I love that. 515 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:33,000 You feel about people who know you because of social media, but 516 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,640 then you meet them in real life and you're like, I don't fucking 517 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200 know shit about you. Because like I met, we were out 518 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,960 of the concert and I get a message and I and someones like, 519 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,360 oh, are you sitting at the bar right now? 520 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,040 Like with your husband, like ordering a soda? 521 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,360 And I'm like. What the fuck? 522 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,480 And she's like. Me and my husband have a table 523 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,960 like you can come sit with us, whatever. 524 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,560 And so we go over there and it was cool. 525 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,600 But like she knew all this info about me and was like, how's the 526 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,440 kids? What's going on with the podcast 527 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,160 and stuff? And I'm like, you know, like, 528 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,120 how do you how do you feel about that? 529 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,360 Is it an adjustment period? Do you get used to like, people 530 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,720 know everything about you and you're just like I OK. 531 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,720 There was a huge adjustment that was something that, you know, 532 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,440 light kind of had to not brace me for. 533 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,960 But tell me, you know, like, yes, you have been choosing, you 534 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,640 know, the content that you put out there for your followers to 535 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,960 see. But now this is different. 536 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,920 Like we're a family and the good, the bad, the ugly is all 537 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,040 going to be out there. And but honestly, I have yet to 538 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,960 run into any instances that I was like, you know what, maybe I 539 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,440 should start drawing back on what I share on social media. 540 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,600 I've yet to run into anything like that. 541 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,400 And there was, I remember there was one time on tour, I forget 542 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,800 where we are at and somebody asked me a very specific 543 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640 question and it was something that I didn't even post. 544 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880 So that was why it kind of threw me for a loop. 545 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,840 It was actually something light posted. 546 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200 And it was, I mean, months prior to what that show was. 547 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,440 So I, he posts so much shit about me that I forget about the 548 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320 content he posts. And somebody came up and asked 549 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,880 me what very specific question. And I looked at him and at first 550 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,600 like I had to kind of like my face probably said a lot more 551 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,040 than what my mouth did, but I was like, and he was like 552 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,160 highlight posted, you know, a couple months ago you were. 553 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,520 And I was like, ah, I'm so sorry. 554 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,480 Yeah, you're right. And so there is a few times that 555 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,120 I have to check myself, like damn you. 556 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,920 There's a lot out there that people probably know a lot about 557 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,560 me. Like you said, know a lot more 558 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,320 about me than I do then, but I like it. 559 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,840 I I actually, I really like it because like it goes back to I'm 560 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,720 being seen, you know, I'm not just at the bar. 561 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320 I was selling my body. I was selling my looks and then 562 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,920 a drink came with it and not selling my body. 563 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,800 That probably sounds terrible, but the outfits that we wore, 564 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,040 yeah, they got to choose what bartender they wanted to order 565 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,120 their drink from. But so it's just, it's nice that 566 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,200 people are actually, like, falling in love with me, like 567 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 they are learning me. And that is the most rewarding 568 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,280 feeling of, of all of this is that I am being accepted into 569 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,520 this family. And it really is a family. 570 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,840 Yeah. It it really is a family because 571 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,880 like that's the only like it's so weird how it all connects in 572 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,920 like this big scale for me because like the Bunny thing is 573 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,640 completely separate from like knowing highlight and all of 574 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,760 them. And then like some of the other 575 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,840 people involved, like it's so weird how everyone connects and 576 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,720 like we. All got some back roads. 577 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Yeah, And then like, I'll randomly be at a show and like, 578 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,440 highlight will walk in or someone random will walk in and 579 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,600 I'm like, what the fuck? Like this is just so random. 580 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,480 And, you know, it's like a really big family because it 581 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,560 spans over so many artists. And I think it really starts 582 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,120 with like Yelawolf at the top of like the trickle, you know, and 583 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,040 it trickles down to everyone else that's in the list. 584 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,239 But I guess now Jelly might be like for most new people, like 585 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,840 above yellow wolf. But like, it all kind of 586 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,920 started, I feel like, in the South American arena somewhere, 587 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,280 like the whole family, like trickling down. 588 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,760 But do you have anybody from your past? 589 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,320 Like, this is one thing I've noticed. 590 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,800 Like, the more successful I get, it's people from the past 591 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,600 wanting to come back in your life and either gain access to 592 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,480 you or let you know you're really not that special. 593 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040 You really ain't the shit I know you think you are. 594 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,560 Like, I have a lot of people that want to try to come in and 595 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,480 humble me and be like, yeah, I remember when you used to smoke 596 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,720 cigarette butts off the ground. I did. 597 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,960 But here I am now. Had that is. 598 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,960 No, I, I Honestly, I've had the opposite and that's because I've 599 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,760 expected what you have experienced and the fact that 600 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,640 I'm experiencing something different. 601 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,600 I'm almost like, what's the catch? 602 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,720 Like is it fake or you know, like I have so many people that 603 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,360 I went to high school with that I wouldn't say bullied me, but 604 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,240 definitely looked down on me and then now all of a sudden are 605 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:41,400 like sharing everything and Oh my God girl, love you. 606 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,480 Like so beautiful. Remember that one time when I'm 607 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,360 like I do, but I don't think I remember it like you remember 608 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600 it. So I think that's like a lot of 609 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,600 things that I'm like there's a lot of people that I don't think 610 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,320 y'all remember our connection. Like I remember our connection 611 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,600 and that's where I've been like I got to kind of remind some 612 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,480 people like especially like not exes recently, but when this all 613 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000 first popped off, yeah, I had to remind y'all. 614 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,120 I had to remind a few were no wasn't going to happen then and 615 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,720 it definitely isn't going to happen now. 616 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,640 So I love that I. Love that because I think that 617 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,360 Jim and I, me living apart, have had people try to come in and 618 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,720 like get between US and like wedge in there and be like, did 619 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,440 you know this happened over here or like, you know, just making 620 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,120 up things. And we've went through that like 621 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,120 big time Gemini. Like this time last year was 622 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,120 like snakes in the grass. I mean, people paying us for 623 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,160 mentorship and like paying to be a part of our communities and 624 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,200 then like completely poaching or taking clients, starting their 625 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,960 own business. And like we are a promotion 626 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,720 zone. We want everyone to promote 627 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:58,360 themselves. Like, we love when people talk 628 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,080 about what they're passionate about, but it would be like at 629 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,040 the expense of like our character and Jim and I like 630 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,280 that was traumatic, what we were going through there for a while, 631 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,680 like. So like we've had those 632 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,960 experiences, right where you have people who latch on to you 633 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,600 because they see that you're starting to get successful with 634 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,480 something. And there's there's this thing 635 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,520 where people kind of put you on a pedestal because they think 636 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,480 that you are higher at something than they are or you have 637 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,240 something that they want to obtain. 638 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,840 And especially when it comes to like spirituality things, I 639 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680 think that people tend to look at us as like these, like 640 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,520 perfect, like healed beings. And the 2nd that, you know, 641 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,960 you're especially if you're going into mentorship with 642 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,360 somebody or, or whatever, you are seeing that like we're on 643 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,560 our own healing journey. And the way that, you know, 644 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,400 Rampage and I choose to do mentorship is like sharing the 645 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,240 real things that we're going through in life. 646 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,920 And our, you know, ceremonies and things are like, these are 647 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,880 the things that we're really linguists. 648 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,840 So we're going to go through it as a collective. 649 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,920 And some people just can't handle seeing that people that 650 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,080 they were looking up to are just regular, normal, everyday people 651 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,880 and they want to tear that down. But then, you know, those are 652 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,160 people that we encounter after we're starting to like develop 653 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,480 ourselves and have like quote, UN quote, like successes with 654 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,920 things. But then on the counterpart of 655 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,960 that, we both have had, you know, people who come in from 656 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,480 the past and they're like, Hey, you know, just a reminder of 657 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,200 like, I remember when you know, you for me specifically 658 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,840 recently, I remember when you guys were having to rent out an 659 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,800 office building to live in because you guys like couldn't 660 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,080 get approved on, you know, houses or whatever. 661 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:49,000 And it's just so like, it's so crazy how people can weaponize 662 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,120 your past as a way of like, yeah, I'm still down here. 663 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,040 But remember when you were down here too, instead of being like, 664 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,120 oh, shit, you were here where I am right now. 665 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,440 And look, you've done all this work to get here. 666 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,360 That's so influential. And that's something that I want 667 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,720 to do is like, people can almost make where you started from an 668 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:16,120 excuse to stay where they are and use that as like keep 669 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,960 themselves down. And I support people wherever 670 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,920 they are in life, but I never support you making yourself 671 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,240 small because at some point somebody else was small. 672 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,160 And so you feel that that's justified. 673 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,680 Like you should be spreading your fucking wings and having 674 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,800 all of the successes. Yeah, for sure. 675 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,200 I think something that I I really stayed true to myself 676 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,680 with was I've always been honest. 677 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,920 I have never, I mean from the jump from three years ago when I 678 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,200 had a BBLI have stayed so honest about that. 679 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,120 That is, you know, that is something that will always stay 680 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,200 on my page because I never want to be one of those females that 681 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,320 lied about how I got here or saying this shit is natural and 682 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,120 making other people feel like, you know, that they weren't born 683 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,040 looking like this neither the hell was I? 684 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,920 This shit costs a lot. So it's like, I think. 685 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,280 The real thing that I appreciate myself doing is just, I've 686 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,600 always been honest. Always from the moment that I 687 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,080 was even deciding to get surgery to deciding if I wanted to share 688 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480 my, my journey with many people because that is something that I 689 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,680 knew I was going to get criticized for. 690 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:41,000 And you know it. It was like, I'm so happy that I 691 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,440 stayed honest with everyone and I'm so honest to this day. 692 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,800 And because it was like you either love me or you hate me. 693 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,240 There's it's a very easy option. You it, you can only go, you 694 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,720 have a 5050 chance, you know, so which one are you going to 695 00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,440 choose? And that is something that I 696 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,880 mean, even to this day, like I going through mental health 697 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,520 problems that it shit is so real. 698 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,160 And I'm never one to sit here and act like this shit is great. 699 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,200 No, I was, I just did a photo shoot last week and cried for 700 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,360 four hours before that photo shoot. 701 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,200 But I was honest about it, you know, like because I, I'm honest 702 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,920 with my people. Like you're not alone. 703 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,760 I I'm going to therapy too. I just refilled my 704 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,400 antidepressants. How about you? 705 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,920 Like this shit is real and I'm honest with it and I never want 706 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,200 to make people feel like I'm superior to them and any other 707 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,840 in any possible way, whether that is looks that I will always 708 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,040 tell my girls, you like my lips, here's my doctor you like my 709 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,600 body, here's my doctor. This is how much I paid. 710 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,320 I will never gatekeep that shit cuz it's like you can be here 711 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,320 too. And that's, you know, that's 712 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,080 something I find myself always saying to people, which I need 713 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,680 to get out of it when they're like, you're so pretty and I'm 714 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,720 like, you could be too. It's just a price. 715 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,600 You could be too, you know, and it said that said they're like, 716 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,120 where do you love your lips? They're so beautiful. 717 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,760 You could have them like for the price of 700 to syringe like 718 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,160 this shit is go buy it. It's if you took this away from 719 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,960 me, I'm sure life would be completely different. 720 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,480 But I, you know, I invested in myself in multiple ways and now 721 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,840 doing it, you know, mentally. So I love that. 722 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,880 I didn't know that you had gotten a VVL, but I always knew 723 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,520 that in those pants that you're, you were looking juicy. 724 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,240 I'm like, damn. Like she fills those pants out. 725 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,800 I'm like, and I see that you said you wore a medium and I'm 726 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,360 like, could I wear a medium or do I need a large? 727 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,200 Cuz I don't know. And I'm like, that fits so well 728 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,080 and they're so form fitting that I'm like, I want it to be 729 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,240 perfect. So we're definitely coming to 730 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,720 the store and. Please do we put everything in 731 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:55,360 the store. Every time we drop, we put it 732 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960 put it in the store. So we would love to come check 733 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,920 out the store. It's just a, it's a dope vibe 734 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,000 regardless. I mean the electric chair in 735 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,400 there from the paintings that Laney did on the walls, like the 736 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,600 vibes there are just it's so much fun. 737 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,840 It's a lot of fun every time I go in there. 738 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,720 So do you feel like on TikTok they're getting to know the more 739 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,560 like natural vulnerable side of you? 740 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,560 Because you said that you're following is different. 741 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,640 And I've watched some of your content over there. 742 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,080 And I mean, I feel like you're just more open over there. 743 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,920 You're just like talking way more. 744 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,280 You're like, I know you've talked just like about a lot of 745 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,400 stuff like dating and just like how people act and things that 746 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,360 people do. And I think I'm going to start 747 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,280 content of just airing out my DMS, like just airing out 748 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,120 because my following was real spiritually driven. 749 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,400 And now it's kind of evolved that I just don't have the same 750 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,080 content. I just don't. 751 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,920 And now my views are so low because my following wants this 752 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,200 old version of me. And I feel like MGK when he 753 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,680 switched genres and everyone was so salty, but this man literally 754 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,440 had a #1 record and album and like did the damn fucking thing, 755 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,560 got little Wayne on the beat and everything. 756 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,800 So I'm like, I just feel like that. 757 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,120 I feel like I'm going through the change where it's like my 758 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,480 contents evolving and I just don't really know who I am. 759 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,080 So do you feel like you're getting more vulnerable side of 760 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,920 you on TikTok versus like put together Chrissy Princess 761 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,640 Poppinership over here on Instagram and then on TikTok? 762 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:36,160 Is like my alter ego like that is that's G Benny and then you 763 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,960 get Gabby on Instagram like that and I I definitely relate with 764 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,480 what you say about the changing of your content and the views. 765 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,560 I feel that a million percent like when I present myself like 766 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,880 cute and let's vlog and you know, let's give them what they 767 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,920 want. Those views are nothing. 768 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,200 But then if I get on there and I talk shit and just I mean, and 769 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,800 it's, that's literally what it is. 770 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,800 It's car Chronicles of talking shit 'cause in my car, in my 771 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,080 head, I'm talking shit in my car 90% of the time that I'm 772 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,680 driving. So I'm just throwing that phone 773 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,280 up there on the mount and I'm like, Oh, this is relatable. 774 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:20,360 I had a damn video go viral about women getting the thong 775 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,720 cuts in their ass crack. Women know what we're talking 776 00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:26,400 about when that thong goes so far in your ass crack and you 777 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,280 get that cut at the top. I made a video about that on 778 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,680 some late night shit and it went viral. 779 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,080 So I'm like, how does the dumbest shit go viral? 780 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,040 But then these things that I'm like really planning out my 781 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,120 content, planning out my vlogs and we're editing, we're putting 782 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,760 transitions and putting time into this. 783 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,920 Y'all, y'all can't look at this. I'm like, you know what, on 784 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,600 TikTok I give the people what they want. 785 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,760 Y'all want me to talk shit? We're going to talk shit. 786 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,200 Yes, I love it. So at the end of every episode, 787 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,520 Gemini pulls a human design card. 788 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,640 I saw her shuffling. Are you going to pull the card? 789 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:09,320 I was or I am, and I was going to say it's like I have a so 790 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,040 TikTok for me, TikTok. I can figure out the algorithm 791 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,480 of TikTok and I'm like, OK, you, these are the kinds of videos 792 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,800 that you want to push. And every so often they'll latch 793 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,680 on to a certain type of video that I'll I'll post. 794 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:29,080 And so right now this video went viral of I was in a fucking moo 795 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,800 moo at home and I was talking about like having witchy friends 796 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,960 and snacks and being gluten free. 797 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,320 And so that shit popped off. And so, and now what I'm finding 798 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,440 is that anytime that I make a video about those topics, 799 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,840 fucking views. Hundreds of thousands of views 800 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,880 were pushing and we're getting, you know, whatever. 801 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,960 And so but then when I have my filler contents in there, it's 802 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,160 like that doesn't get pushed and it doesn't get as many views. 803 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,560 And so I'm trying to find my happy medium of like, I don't 804 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,800 want to just be like the thick witchy bitch with snacks and 805 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,000 crystals because like I have a whole other personality outside 806 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,480 of that. But also my website is booked. 807 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,520 Like you guys are bringing me money. 808 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,680 You're signing on to Patreon. So I'm like, there's so many 809 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,640 other things that I want to share. 810 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,160 But what I, what I struggle with growing is my fucking Instagram. 811 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,520 And I think one, I'm really not consistent on Instagram, but 812 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,000 two, Instagram isn't like your videos and your personality. 813 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,400 Instagram is how do you look in a still photo? 814 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,600 And you know, how are you aesthetically laying out your 815 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,280 page and how's your branding? And so that is my, I'm just 816 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,400 putting out into the universe that like I, I've got the TikTok 817 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,880 thing that I'm that's going. But what I really want to learn 818 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,640 and master is that Instagram, because as much as people say 819 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,200 it's a dying platform, it's not a dying platform for people who 820 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,560 know how to utilize it. And rampage just got me on 821 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,400 Snapchat. And so now all these people from 822 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,560 like TikTok and stuff are following my link and are DM ING 823 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,320 me on Snapchat. And it's incredible how many 824 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,760 people just like want you to see them and just like respond and 825 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,200 be their friend. Like they just are like Oh my 826 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,880 gosh, I love your videos and I feel so seen. 827 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,480 And it's crazy how you can build so much authentic love and 828 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,720 support with people by just connecting. 829 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:30,760 And I wish that more people made themselves available to be 830 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,960 personal and connect. Yep, I agree with you a million 831 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,680 percent. There has been so many family 832 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,760 members that we have gained that are mean, are loyal to their 833 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,520 absolute core and it has all started over. 834 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,680 Yeah, them commenting and just, you know, responding to a video 835 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,320 and being like, this was so funny. 836 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,360 And I respond like thanks babe, like hope you're having a great 837 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,160 day. That little response has now 838 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,320 gotten me a loyal family member for life because that is exactly 839 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,120 why I explain our family. I mean it. 840 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,240 We they are for life first. So I agree with you a million 841 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:17,680 percent and that is, I mean, it's hard. 842 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,000 I agree with you. Like my following is on TikTok. 843 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,920 So that is something that just these last six to eight months 844 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,000 is I'm trying to learn the Instagram thing because it's 845 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,600 different. If you got the TikTok thing, 846 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,080 it's not the Instagram thing. And that little boost post has 847 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,240 been my absolute best friend and you know, doing collabs with 848 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,160 people on their posts and when we're doing collabs with 849 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,560 Tainted, you know, Bunny posting me and stuff that has helped me 850 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,360 so much. But myself, I agree with you a 851 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,240 million that that has been hard for me still to this day. 852 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,240 I mean, I'll look at my personal following. 853 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:58,800 I have 11.7 how am I only getting 100 likes on a photo? 854 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,960 Like I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it, you know? 855 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:10,200 Like I know how 11.7 how are 60 seeing my story? 856 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,480 Yeah, that's so real because the other day Viking Barbie put me 857 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,120 on her story and has millions, like 3 point something millions 858 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,280 and she was, she just basically said she was like, look, this 859 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,920 one probably wouldn't translate as well as if your tits were 860 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,640 out. Like if your boobs were out, I'm 861 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,640 going to get you follower. She was like, but you know me 862 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,440 just putting something genuine out here. 863 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,560 She was like, I have a lot of thirsty guys on here. 864 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,400 She was like, so it may or may not translate to like because 865 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,240 I'm literally like followers away from 10K now, like just one 866 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,880 or two away. And it has been so hard to get 867 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,480 over this last 100 followers, like harder than any other 868 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,640 transition or cycle. And the thing about Instagram is 869 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,560 when they started selling the check marks, they only promote 870 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,360 the people who are buying the check mark. 871 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,760 And I'm not against the check mark, but I don't want to put my 872 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,720 government name out there for a check mark. 873 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,880 Like, let me buy it. I'll tell you what my name is. 874 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,520 And then let's not tell the world. 875 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,280 How about that? No, like for my personal safety, 876 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,600 let's not tell the world. But at the same time, like the 877 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,880 way that Instagram is set up is it is play to it's pay to play. 878 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,120 And that's what sucks because I will get hundreds of, you know, 879 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,640 views on a story and like you said, 50 likes on a post. 880 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,800 And I've noticed that a lot, even with people with big 881 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,240 followings have said that like Instagram will not let you grow 882 00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,760 right now. Like they're not promoting 883 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,120 growth. People would use their platform 884 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:48,120 more if there was a more explorable for you feed, right? 885 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,440 Like the algorithm on Tiktok has a really good system. 886 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,560 But what I've learned is that the last couple of years, if you 887 00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,240 don't do what Tiktok wants you to do, then they do not get. 888 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,280 Washed out. Yeah, that's what they've done 889 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,600 to me. They're like used to go live for 890 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,680 like 10 hours a week and now you don't do that. 891 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,640 You're going to get 2 interviews like you're in and you know, 892 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,440 Gemini out of the blue, she can't even go live, but she's 893 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,360 going viral. Like it makes no sense. 894 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,760 It's like they don't really want us to use their platforms. 895 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,640 Yep, I agree. I say the same thing 'cause I'm 896 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,480 like, I'll put in, I'll get good sounds, I'll get, I'll get it on 897 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,680 point. You know, my voice overs are 898 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:36,240 hidden and I'm like 100 views like I'm not understanding it. 899 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,200 And then I'll play, I'll do a video with absolutely no sound, 900 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,360 no viral sound, no nothing. And I'm just talking shit and 901 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,520 that it just goes viral. I'm like, I don't, I don't 902 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,240 understand. I tell my brand manager all the 903 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,120 time, Jackie, I don't get it. I don't get it. 904 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,320 And I I get mad. I still to this day get mad. 905 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,080 And it does defer me from wanting to use TikTok because 906 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,120 that shit's not easy to make videos on that. 907 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,400 Like there's so many tedious things to it and you know, 908 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,400 hitting it right on the time. And God forbid you're connected 909 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,160 to a Bluetooth, you're going to be delayed on the actual sound. 910 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,520 Like, there's so many things with it that it's like, once you 911 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,240 finally get that video, you're so excited to post it. 912 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,480 Well, you just posted AT2O clock in the afternoon, so Tik Tok's 913 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,000 going to throw that one under the rug so no one else sees that 914 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,240 when they get off work. And it's like, God, I don't want 915 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:30,080 to use you. I'd rather just put $10 on this 916 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,480 post on Instagram and call it a day and know it's going to do 917 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,360 great. Like but like you said, pay to 918 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,760 play. Yeah, yeah, Jim and I do you 919 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,240 want to pull our. I did. 920 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,640 I pulled it. We got card 16 for 921 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,960 Transcendence. We got a little Ocean. 922 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:54,360 Here. The sign is Gemini, the gift is 923 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,640 fluidity, and the shadow is indifference. 924 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,920 When you dive deeply into your talent with enthusiasm and 925 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,600 unbreakable passion, your gift has the ability to break you 926 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,120 open in the right ways. At the lower levels of this 927 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,240 frequency, you build skill and talent surrounding your craft. 928 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,480 From there, you obtain mastery and then ultimately transcend 929 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,400 the process altogether. To transcend is to be one with 930 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,720 life. You are both the instrument and 931 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:26,680 the conductor. You become versatile, fluid, and 932 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,200 fully await. The energy of indifference keeps 933 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,680 us locked in a cycle of endless excuse. 934 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,520 Whether you've convinced yourself that this time isn't 935 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,800 quite that time isn't quite on your side, or you're not exactly 936 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,200 where you need to be to get going, the shadow seeps in. 937 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,400 When you're not fully applying yourself in thought, word and 938 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,520 action. You have the potential to reach 939 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,960 great heights with your extraordinary and unique talent, 940 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,400 if only you'll let yourself get out of your own way. 941 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,680 Indifference keeps you from breaking out-of-the-box and 942 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,280 living, and that's so on point. That. 943 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,440 Is so on point. I just started therapy Monday 944 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,400 last Monday to help me with those things getting out of 945 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,920 myself. You know, and what you were 946 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,720 saying earlier about TikTok is maybe that means that you need 947 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:24,200 to do less trendy content and you need to just talk. 948 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:30,280 And I've always wanted like my dream is to be like stitch this 949 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,080 with XYZ experience and like me be the one that's at the 950 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,200 beginning. Like what I'm saying, like 951 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,920 stitch this with your worst dating or whatever. 952 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,560 And honestly, I, I think that's possible on TikTok with anything 953 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,320 that's relatable, right? Like anything like what's the 954 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,280 conspiracy theory that you believe that's not real, but 955 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,680 it's real? Like that one went everywhere. 956 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,480 Like that sound made it over to, to freaking Instagram. 957 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,800 Like that sound was everywhere. And if we've noticed anything, 958 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,120 like all it takes is that one moment your sound, your song, 959 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,480 your video, and next thing you know, you know you have a whole 960 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,080 new set of eyes on you. So what's a message that you 961 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,480 want to leave your following everyone with? 962 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,160 Everyone that's going to listen to this interview? 963 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,800 What's a message that you want to leave them with? 964 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,160 Stay true to who you are. Don't forget, you are going to 965 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,000 go through so much shit in life and there are going to be so 966 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,400 many people that are going to try and mold you from many 967 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,880 directions. But stay true to who you are. 968 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:40,200 Do not forget who you are and your core values and you will go 969 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,560 so far in this world and be happy. 970 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,040 You'll be so happy. I love you. 971 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,240 Thank you so much, Gabby, for being here. 972 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:53,360 We are so excited to have you on our podcast. 973 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,000 So everyone will have all of her links in the description. 974 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,880 We'll have her website. We're also updating our website. 975 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,480 So there's a lot of changes that will be happening on our 976 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,160 website. We think we're going to like 977 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,080 feature our guest on the website for a couple months as well. 978 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,960 So you all tap in and we will see you all next time in 979 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,040 Candyland.