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Welcome to Fucking Candy Land, 
hosted by Rampage and Gemini. 

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What's up, motherfuckers? 
Welcome back to Candyland. 

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So tonight it's just me and Jim 
and I and we hope that you have 

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been enjoying our variety of 
guest. 

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We have a couple more interviews
coming up and we're going to try

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to stack some guest so that we 
can drop every other week with a

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guest. 
We are wanting to expand our 

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horizons, our conversations, and
really get into some of those 

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taboo topics by bringing on 
taboo people. 

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Yeah, I like taboo people. 
I think they're interesting. 

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I don't. 
I don't know. 

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I like our podcast and who we 
bring on. 

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But sometimes I'll try and get 
into new podcasts and I'm like, 

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you have hella corny guests, 
bro. 

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I can't listen. 
I just do like an intuitive 

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thing. 
When people have guests and like

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some podcasts, I listen to them 
because I like I'm drawn to the 

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guest as well. 
And then sometimes, like I'll 

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listen to like 20 minutes of it 
and I'm like, this isn't hidden 

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for me. 
Some people I've found, I really

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like them on social media and 
like, I like their TikTok and 

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stuff. 
And then I hear them talking and

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I am like, Oh yeah, no, I'm 
bored. 

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Yeah, I think a lot of people 
don't realize how difficult it 

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is to hop on a podcast and keep 
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hour. 
Plus, like people who do 

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podcasts make that look easy. 
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there is a reason that over like
75% of podcasts only have 10 

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episodes or less. 
Yeah, and it's interesting as a 

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podcast host to try and find 
people whose like, energy and 

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communication style is something
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to have a conversation with 
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You know what I mean? 
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really easy to go back and 
forth, but when you add a third 

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or a fourth voice in there, it's
like we like have to try to find

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a flow with that person despite 
like never talking to them 

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before. 
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a growing process. 
Interviewing guests, talking to 

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people is one thing, but having 
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more people on a podcast is a 
lot Like, it's different for you

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on Coven of Rejects to just 
interview people and like, you 

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know, the focus is on them, but 
like we don't make it where 

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we're interviewing them as far 
as like a set list of questions,

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you know what I mean? 
So I feel like it's just like a 

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variety of like how the guest, 
how comfortable the guest feels 

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because I think some 
conversations flow very 

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naturally and then some people 
are just a little more shy or 

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reluctant or not really sure 
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So they're nervous. 
I've had people, even with it 

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just being me though over on 
Coven, like I've had guests 

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where when we've been talking 
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podcast going, they're really 
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But then once we're recording, 
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episodes I haven't aired because
there was no chemistry with the 

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person that I was talking to. 
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are nervous or they've never 
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whatever the reasons may be, 
sometimes it's just difficult to

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get a conversation going. 
And that's how it is in everyday

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life. 
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even if you think they're an 
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that you have something 
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them. 
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And I think that a lot of people
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that like, isn't always who they
really are. 

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And I know that you said that 
you've been trying to share more

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about your life. 
And I feel like I've been doing 

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the opposite. 
And I've been trying to be more 

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like mysterious and like not 
share everything because people 

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do straight send you not good 
energy when you're sharing good 

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news sometimes. 
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like, want things untainted, 
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outside energies because so many
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you. 
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Like, pretend there's something 
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And then when you are studying 
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meet them in person, or you do 
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relationships or whatever, it's 
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really come out. 
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like, I like that person on the 
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really like that person as like 
who they really are without the 

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illusions and things that 
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Because like we know for sure 
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Utah, that girl didn't like me 
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She playing stuff she didn't 
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Like how that we like did that 
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through some of the like things 
from her perspective and just 

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beyond. 
It's really, really clear now 

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that like I was the problem, 
Like she did not like me for 

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some God forsaken reason that 
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And I don't know why, like, and 
to this day I'm still like, I 

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don't understand because you're 
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are in our friendship that you 
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Like it's there's there's 
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I think that our dynamic though 
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thought that it was going to be.
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going to be the more like a sort
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doing all of the things and that
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going to be making food and 
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But I thought that you were 
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charge and like command 
situations, and you were more 

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like, I'm willing to do whatever
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And to this day, I don't 
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one that's liked when you were 
the one who was like, oh, you 

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want to take me on an ATV ride 
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Cool. 
I'm down for it. 

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And I was like, fuck you, I'm 
not going. 

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I don't know. 
I mean, I think I'm really like,

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I'm very assertive in 
communication, like this is what

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I expect. 
These are my boundaries. 

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Like, don't talk to me this way,
don't act this way, whatever. 

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But like, when it comes to like,
going with the flow, like I am 

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the definition of going with the
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Like when I go on a vacation, I 
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every day. 
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one really nice expensive dinner
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day and I get tickets to 
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concert, a show, a magic show, 
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But then like, the other days 
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have a plan like I want. 
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to the pool or go shopping or 
things like that. 

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But like, I don't want to plan 
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And I feel like some people take
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dominant as, like, I'm going to 
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And it's like, you better wake 
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need to leave here at 10:30 or 
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that's like, wow, you're getting
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You're taking forever. 
You know, 'cause some people are

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pushy like that, but I'm just 
not like. 

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I'm just like, I'll sit here and
chill and I'll wait and I'm not 

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in a rush, ever. 
I love that you're literally 

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getting rushed anytime that you 
did your makeup, and we didn't 

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even talk about that with Juber.
We didn't even talk about the 

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fact that we were you were doing
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literally had just started and I
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on and Home Girl was like, I'll 
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mirror because I'm not high 
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Oh my gosh, I forgot she said 
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Yeah, like, I didn't even bring 
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I was having that issue with my 
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So I didn't even have, like, all
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I think I just like had some 
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lipstick and I was doing my 
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Like it was like very basic. 
Would have only taken me like 15

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fucking minutes. 
And she's like causing a scene. 

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Like who the hell books a 
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women and then tells everybody 
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bring sweats knowing damn well 
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I want to dress like like if I 
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I'm not taking your advice. 
Like if I want to show up, 

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however, I want to show up to 
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event, to the whatever. 
I'm not listening to just wear 

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jeans or just wear this like I'm
going to wear whatever I want to

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wear, period. 
Shut up. 

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Nobody asks you, nobody asks 
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And yeah, because like I I was 
totally like thinking we're out 

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in some like retreat the whole 
time and look like a bum ass 

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bitch. 
And I can't wait for us to have 

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like a new adventure with new 
memories so that the memory that

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we have of us being together 
isn't surviving fucking the Utah

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apocalypse of like crazy white 
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Their soul lady really gave me 
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need to rectify that and change 
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Honestly, I feel like she wanted
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still had a really good fucking 
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Like, I truly had a good time 
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though the ATV thing was super 
scary, I still had a really good

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time on the ATV. 
Like that's a core memory. 

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Because I know for a damn fact I
will never do that again. 

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Like, unless I am like with 
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and has has a trailer and a 
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the sun and they have it as 
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Different because she literally 
acted like she drives us all the

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time and she does not. 
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Like she doesn't. 
I have never been so positive to

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somebody before that I literally
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like, terrified for my life. 
I was like, I can't, Oh my God. 

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I was preparing for, like, what 
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over the side. 
I did not have a good time. 

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My hands were sweating through 
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They were so wet that they kept 
sticking off of the bar, sliding

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off of the safety bar. 
I never let go of that fucking 

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bar in front of us the whole 
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We wrote in that ATV. 
No. 

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Nope. 
I don't want to relive that 

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again. 
Hard pass we have. 

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We've been invited to other Utah
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And I'm like, maybe we give Utah
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Like maybe we explore what the 
Mormons do in Utah. 

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Like what is there to do out 
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Has to be beautiful. 
I like Utah, honestly. 

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Like, I've been out there twice 
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Like, clearly there was 
something that needed to be done

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in the situation. 
Like there was a crazy person 

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with us. 
But when I went to Utah the 

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first time, me and my friend 
Chastity went and we had a 

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really good time. 
She had never been to Vegas. 

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And so we literally, on our last
day there, we went hiking, came 

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back to this, the Airbnb got 
ready, drove the three hours to 

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Vegas. 
We gained an hour, But then on 

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the way home, clearly we were 
gonna lose that hour. 

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We were. 
I was driving us like, on the 

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way home, like 95, 'cause the 
speed limit's 80, so I'm going 

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like 95. 
Because at one point we were 

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like, so behind schedule that, 
like we had to fly out at Salt 

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Lake City at like 10:00 AM and 
we were staying like 2 hours 

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away from the airport. 
Like yeah, So it was like we had

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to literally go back to the 
Airbnb, literally grab our stuff

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as fast as we could, get back in
the car and drive to the 

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airport. 
We made it, but it was like one 

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of those things where it's like 
a memory cause chassis had never

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been to Vegas. 
Like to do that we had a really 

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great dinner and we had so many 
leftovers. 

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We just like literally pulled 
over the same thing we did when 

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we were in Utah and just gave it
all to a homeless person. 

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They were like what? 
And I was like there's an $80.00

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steak in there and they were 
like what? 

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So that I. 
Forgot we did that. 

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Yeah, we gave that. 
We gave them all of the salsa 

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and spices. 
There's so much stuff that you 

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didn't take, like all those. 
There was literally so much 

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stuff that we bought you all 
that we carried from the first 

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cabin to the next cabin or the 
next Airbnb, and we was cooking.

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But then once we got to our 
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like blast from the past. 
Like we didn't cook there, 

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really. 
We didn't want to cook, yeah. 

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But, like, by the time that we 
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night, for sure, we were so 
emotionally drained. 

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Like, as soon as we closed the 
door, me and juber just started 

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crying. 
And I remember, like, crying on 

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the couch. 
And I was like, I want to go 

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home. 
And you're like, what? 

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And I was like, I want to be 
with my husband. 

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I'm fucking tired of this. 
I don't want to be here. 

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Like, I'm so uncomfortable and 
you're like, no, like, we're 

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going to stay. 
We're going to do it. 

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And then I remember like, he was
all stressed about in that whole

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situation because he had thought
like he was the one getting the 

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midnight phone calls, hearing me
about to fucking throw home girl

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off the fucking top thing. 
So he's freaking out. 

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And and so that energy was 
coming. 

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And I remember you're all calm 
on the couch and you're like, I 

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don't have any response to this.
I grew up with a crazy mom. 

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You're like, he's going through 
his own thing while we're here. 

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He's having to deal with his own
battles about you being gone in 

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separation. 
So like, let's just hang out. 

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We're going to go get food, 
we're going to whatever. 

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And I was like, OK, and that's 
when we went to like, go and 

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pick up the car and everything. 
And I thought it was so dope 

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that you guys wanted to get the 
car. 

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A big reason being for me to not
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the airport. 
And when Juber was like, no, we 

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have to get it because like we 
have to take you to the airport.

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You can't be in like a different
state and just like by yourself 

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and have like a random Uber take
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And I was like, that's so 
fucking sweet. 

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What was crazy is we rented a 
car, you all from that app, it's

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called Turo and the guy 
literally had an air tag 

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somewhere. 
The Sky's in the car. 

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So like, we're just driving and 
out of nowhere. 

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It's like an air tag has been 
moving with you since this time.

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And I was like, it's kind of 
freaking out because, like, you 

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hear horror stories about those 
air tags and people putting them

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in your purse and in your bag 
and whatever. 

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And I was thinking like this 
this bitch tracking us. 

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Like, I mean, I didn't know 
like, 'cause it was just weird. 

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Like they they did that, 'cause 
I don't think that that's even 

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like, like that wasn't spoken. 
But honestly, we had a really 

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good time. 
You all. 

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At the end of the day, it 
brought us closer. 

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I think that anytime you go 
through struggles, it's really 

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important to look at what you 
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'cause I swear that has helped 
me and Gemini navigate some 

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really fucking stressful things 
that like nothing could be as 

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stressful as being on the side 
of a fucking mountain in two 

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wheel drive. 
Like nothing in this world could

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touch. 
Like, if we fall off this 

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mountain, we're all dead right 
now. 

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And our driver is drunk, telling
our core guy that she's got this

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and that she does this her whole
life and every day of her life 

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and that she brought her baby 
and her son and all these things

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out here. 
But, like, the most random thing

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about all of this is like the 
first day we got there, everyone

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was like, having this vulnerable
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And she was telling us how, 
like, she was like, 3435 and 

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what was trying to have another 
kid and all these things. 

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And it's just like, how are you 
gonna tell us all this 

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vulnerable stuff and then just 
be like, yeah, I don't even like

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you. 
You're too nice. 

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Fuck you. 
I don't know why you're doing 

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this. 
I don't even know why you're 

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here. 
Like, it was just like bipolar. 

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And I think that because of that
moment, like we've gotten 

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funnier and way smarter. 
We've gotten funnier and 

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smarter, but also like, and we 
were just talking about this 

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before the podcast. 
I think that people 

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underestimate the level of 
unbothered that we really are 

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about things like even if we're 
like up, we're never upset with 

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each other or thinking weirdly 
of each other inside of 

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situations. 
It's always how do we tackle 

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whatever is coming our direction
or whatever is going on. 

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And and I do think that the 
reason that that Utah thing 

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sticks out to us so much is 
like, that was a in person 

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situation. 
Like the first time that we 

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really were like, oh, we got to 
look out for us. 

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And like somebody else is moving
weird and trying to like get in 

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the middle of our friendship. 
Like there was very much like, 

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oh, well, don't you think it's 
shady that they just left you 

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here to sit on the trail while 
they went up ahead? 

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No, I'm the bitch who's not 
going to walk on this Sandy rock

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like that's. 
I'm not going to ruin their time

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like so there was there's just 
different stuff and then we've 

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had things come up in the 
background you know inside of 

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like our communities and 
whatever since that where or 

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like clients or whatever where 
people are just like super 

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strange to us behind each other 
and we're like we communicate. 

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So you know that I don't know I 
I just the level of unbothered 

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is so high. 
I feel like there's a fine line 

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in being like, hey, I'm going to
downgrade with you and go 

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upgrade with Jim and I and I'll 
still be able to work with you. 

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Or hey, I'm going to join her 
Patreon and cut yours off. 

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And then vice versa. 
Like, there's a fine line of 

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being like, hey, I'm going to go
do this. 

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But there's a different thing 
that I've been seeing where 

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people are like, I want to work 
with you and then immediately go

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to you and they're like, I'm 
going to book with you. 

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And it's cool, like if you want 
to book with both of us. 

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But it's like, it's almost like 
sometimes people like, try to 

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play US against each other like,
well, what can she do for me? 

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What can you do for me? 
And then try to see like, if 

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we're going to, like, be upset 
or challenged in some way. 

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It's just like I think a lot of 
people's egos do that 

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subconsciously. 
Like I've said before, like if 

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you don't work on your shit and 
your shadow and your trauma, 

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your 7 to 12 year old self is 
the one making decisions. 

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So when you felt left out in 
fifth grade, you're projecting 

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that into your adult life. 
So you don't like healthy 

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dynamics subconsciously, of 
course. 

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Like, you may not know you 
consciously are doing that, but 

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there may be a tendency to want 
to come between people or to 

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play people against each other, 
kind of like people do with 

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their parents. 
They play their parents against 

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each other. 
Kids do that. 

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People play their partners. 
Like when people get married, 

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they'll do that like with their 
mother-in-law and their husband 

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or or whatever. 
I've seen a lot of women lately 

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that are like, we're starting a 
new family and I'm more 

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important than your mother and 
and all these things. 

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I'm like, I understand that, 
like you're starting a family, 

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but that's also still their 
family. 

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So you're putting them in 
between your differences and 

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discrepancies. 
And I think just so many people 

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do that, 'cause it's like when 
you're on the playground and you

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don't get picked for dodgeball 
or you don't get, you know, 

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picked for sports or whatever, 
Like you feel left out and then 

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you never healed that trauma or 
you never actually acknowledged 

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that it bothered you. 
Cause a lot of people are like, 

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you know, they got left out and 
so then they started hanging out

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with the bad kids, you know what
I mean? 

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Or the kids who did drugs. 
That was me. 

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Like, I never really tried to 
get picked for anything. 

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But I also, like, never hung out
with people that were good for 

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me. 
I feel like, like I feel like 

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growing up I was always the kid 
that like people's parents. 

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Didn't want their kid to hang 
out with, like, purpose. 

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They would be like, OK, it's 
fine. 

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But then they would find out 
later that my mom let us drink 

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and would leave us. 
And like, my mom would literally

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like, let, like, 16 year olds 
babysit me and like my friends 

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but not even tell their mom that
she wasn't going to be home. 

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Like, Oh yeah, they can stay 
over here. 

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And then my mom would just 
bounce, you know? 

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So, like, I don't know. 
I think a lot of people don't 

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realize they're playing both 
sides of the field or they're 

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being, like, unsupportive in a 
way. 

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Because it's counterproductive 
to message me and ask me a bunch

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of questions, right, and be 
like, oh, I'm going to do that. 

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And then to go to you 5 seconds 
later and be like asking you a 

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bunch of questions like, oh, I'm
going to do that knowing damn 

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well they're not doing any of 
it. 

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I have had, I've even had it 
like reverse, like you've you've

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had people do that and then do 
things with me. 

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And I've had the same thing 
where I'll have somebody that 

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I'm talking to for weeks about. 
Like I had a girl who I was 

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talking to for weeks that kept 
asking me questions about 

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booking. 
And then she listened to 

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Lollipop and she went over and 
she booked with you. 

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And I was like, I don't care. 
Like I genuinely, I'm like, 

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thank you for spending money 
with my best friend. 

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I'm going to get a present I 
don't like. 

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I don't care. 
It it doesn't bother me. 

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And I think that I something 
that I really love is that there

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is never a second thought about 
you being upset in a situation 

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or like they're being jealousy 
when things like that happen. 

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Because we truly are. 
Just like, bitch, go go do your 

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thing. 
Like I don't, I don't care. 

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I have my own stuff that's going
on and and I think that a lot of

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things like that happen inside 
of friendships anyways, not just

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ours. 
Where this stuff gets thrown in 

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to like be messy or dirty or 
people are weird and they're 

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jealous that you have a friend 
and they want to be that 

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person's friend or whatever. 
And some people just don't have 

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solid conversations and dynamics
where they talk about things 

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like if I was to know that 
somebody was like saying 

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something about you or like, 
like being direct about 

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something, I would be like, oh, 
I'll just block you. 

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And I would never, I wouldn't 
have room for somebody who 

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didn't like you in general 
anyways. 

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And I just expect that, like, 
that's how friendships work and 

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that's how you are too. 
And I've heard like there are 

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people, I've seen this on TikTok
and this makes me question you 

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people that are like just 
because my friend doesn't like 

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you doesn't mean that I don't 
like you. 

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No. 
If my friend doesn't like you, 

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there's a fucking reason and I 
don't fuck with you either. 

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Yeah, I think people do that a 
lot. 

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Especially like in hometown 
bullshit, like the gossip, like 

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if they're gossiping about this 
person to you, they are talking 

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about you to someone else or 
telling your business. 

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And I've had people kind of play
that card like they're they want

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to be like the mole kind of 
thing. 

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Like they want information. 
They want to pretend that we're 

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close, that we're friends, but 
it's really just so they can use

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my name in front of other people
that either like, needs them 

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clout or acceptance. 
Like the amount of people that 

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are like, I know Paige, I grew 
up with Paige on Bunny's post is

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like, wild to me. 
Because, like, there will 

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literally be people that, like, 
I have not spoken to in forever 

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being like, wow, I know, you 
know, Bunny and Jelly roll. 

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Now, could you do this for me? 
Could you do that for me? 

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And like, if you're listening 
and you've done that, 'cause 

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there's more people than I can 
count that have tried to get me 

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to call in my favor for them. 
Like, would you walk around over

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hot coals for me? 
Because if you wouldn't, don't 

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even ask me for a favor. 
Like if you're not going to go 

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and put your life on the line 
for me. 

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Like, don't ask me to do all 
these little things for you, 

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especially when they involve 
other people. 

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It's one thing when you're 
asking for my time or my energy 

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and I can reject that or or 
accept that. 

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But it's a different thing when 
you're trying to use all the 

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hard work and things I've done 
for me to benefit you when you 

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literally do not support me in 
the fucking slightest. 

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And I don't even mean like, Oh 
my God, you have to support me. 

444
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,880
Because there are so many people
that like and share stuff that 

445
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280
have never booked anything and I
appreciate them the same as the 

446
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,480
people who book and leave 
reviews and tell their friends. 

447
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,440
It's not about what you're 
spending with me or anything. 

448
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,000
Like I don't rank people. 
Like, I just think it's weird 

449
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,720
that you would write someone 
that you barely speak to and ask

450
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,600
them to do a random favor for 
you, whether it's can I have $10

451
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,640
or can you talk to Bunny for me 
or whatever. 

452
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,080
Like the amount of people that 
say that they want to make 

453
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,000
something for Bunny and they 
want to know if I can get it to 

454
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,600
her. 
Like, yes. 

455
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,560
You know, how many people have 
came through on that? 

456
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,080
Zero. 
Like, no one. 

457
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760
So these people were like, oh, I
make shoes or I make, I make 

458
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,800
paintings or I make this, I make
that. 

459
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,400
Can you get it to Bunny and 
Jelly? 

460
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,720
Like, yeah. 
And none of them ever come 

461
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,000
through with the items. 
So it's like, why are you 

462
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,200
wasting my time? 
Like, why are you trying to 

463
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560
speak to me? 
Like, you know what I mean in 

464
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,920
that sense of, like, let me 
distract you. 

465
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Let me use you. 
What can you do for me? 

466
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,480
Energy. 
And that's what gets old. 

467
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,880
And I feel like a lot of people 
don't realize they're doing that

468
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,200
in the spiritual arena with the 
Hey, can I ask you a question? 

469
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,840
Hey, can I ask you a question? 
Like, I'll answer a question. 

470
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,400
Like, I'm not gonna just shut 
you down, but it's when you want

471
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,920
free back and forth. 
And then you go to Facebook and 

472
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,360
then you ask, hey, I need a 
psychic medium. 

473
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,560
But you've already DM me like 14
times asking prices and all 

474
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,520
this. 
And then you go over to Gemini 

475
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,520
and start asking her those same 
questions. 

476
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,200
And then later we speak 
together, we speak about it. 

477
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,680
And it's like, Oh yeah, they 
wrote me too. 

478
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,320
And I'm like, they've been 
writing me since February. 

479
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,720
And it's just weird. 
Like, that's where it makes our 

480
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,400
heads spin. 
Because it's not like you even 

481
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,760
joined Patreon for $5 or $10 or 
even like, you know, sometimes 

482
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,360
like people don't realize. 
But like, you can send a little 

483
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,880
donation or a little tip or 
something like if someone helps 

484
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,600
you out, I don't care if it's 
like knowledge about hair, cars,

485
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,480
home, it doesn't matter, like 
send an energy exchange and you 

486
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,880
would get more from the 
universe. 

487
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,160
But it's when you're trying to 
take, take, take, take, take and

488
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,760
not give anything that you keep 
getting pushed back because the 

489
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,000
universe doesn't respond to 
people that just take all the 

490
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,400
fucking time. 
I got to give a shout out to my 

491
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,200
girl Melissa. 
We've talked about her on here 

492
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,320
before with that girl there's. 
But I mean it's probably 

493
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,520
happened more than once. 
But I can think of one time 

494
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,520
recently where she was like, 
listen, I just need to vent. 

495
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,520
And she sent me like voice note,
voice note, voice note. 

496
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,640
And then she sends me a donation
through my website and was like,

497
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840
thank you for listening. 
I just needed a safe space to 

498
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,800
like say this to and I'm like, I
just well, thank you. 

499
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,080
She listens to every episode. 
I'm like that it's not even 

500
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,080
about the monetary value of 
something. 

501
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,200
It's about somebody being like, 
hey, your time and your energy 

502
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240
is worth something. 
Like, I'm going to be dumping 

503
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,640
this on to you right now. 
I just want you to know that 

504
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,320
like, this is an appreciation 
and money is an, you know, it's 

505
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,000
an energy exchange. 
But on top of that too, like, 

506
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,440
it's really annoying when people
know that we charge for a 

507
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,920
service and that they know that 
we offer a service and they send

508
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,400
tons of messages about, can I 
get advice on this? 

509
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Can I get advice on that or what
type of reading or whatever? 

510
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,720
And then when you give them the 
pricing or you give them the 

511
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,200
link, it's, oh, well, I can't 
pay for it right now because I'm

512
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,680
a mom. 
And, you know, I have to go to 

513
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,040
work and I have these things 
happening and it's Christmas 

514
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,800
time and yadda yadda yadda. 
And like, that's totally fine. 

515
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,480
Like, there's not the 
expectation. 

516
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,720
Like, I don't sit there and go, 
oh, I'm going to talk to this 

517
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,040
person because they're going to 
pay me. 

518
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,600
But if you're going to sit there
and ask questions about services

519
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,400
and things, and then turn around
and say all of the hundreds of 

520
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,640
reasons that you can't do 
something after just utilizing, 

521
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320
you know, conversation for 
however long, that's really 

522
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,760
frustrating too. 
Yeah, that's one of the things 

523
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040
that I think people don't 
realize they're doing in a 

524
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,120
spiritual arena. 
Like you're not going to go to a

525
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,760
hairdresser and ask them how to 
blend the color. 

526
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,160
What color codes do you use? 
Like, where do you get your 

527
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,480
products? 
Like you're not going to go and 

528
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,240
ask them all that shit. 
You're just not. 

529
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,760
And if you did, they're not 
going to entertain it. 

530
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,440
You know what I mean? 
Because that's what they get 

531
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,280
paid that knowledge. 
They went to school. 

532
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,800
I think because spirituality is 
either like naturally evolved, 

533
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,520
you developed it, you went to 
classes or whatever. 

534
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,440
People don't see it as something
that like, is tangible, like, 

535
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,040
oh, you have a degree in that, 
or you went to college for that.

536
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,360
And people are more than 
willing, when you're in trouble,

537
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,640
to pay a lawyer $1000 an hour or
a realtor $18,000 to sell your 

538
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,960
house or whatever, and it's like
you're not paying me for the 

539
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440
minutes. 
You're paying me for the 

540
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,680
experience and the wisdom and 
the expertise that I've 

541
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,680
developed by devoting myself to 
something. 

542
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,440
And a lot of the times the shit 
people ask can be Googled like, 

543
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,880
what is shadow work when you 
literally could type in what is 

544
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,120
shadow work like before words 
even come out of your mouth and 

545
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840
someone's DM that you have not 
exchanged anything with. 

546
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800
And this doesn't apply to 
clients, like if you've booked 

547
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,120
with me and I'll tell you, I'll 
give you an open door policy. 

548
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,880
If you've booked with me and I 
say something in this reading 

549
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000
and you listen to it later and 
you have a question or you're 

550
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240
like, hey, what did you say? 
Or hey, what was that book? 

551
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,120
I'm more than happy to tell you,
period, because you've already 

552
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,080
invested in yourself. 
So yes, I'm more than happy to 

553
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,480
help you make sure that you have
the tools that I mapped out for 

554
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,640
you. 
But what I'm not going to do is 

555
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,200
like, give you free advice. 
Like, well, do you feel like my 

556
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,760
mom's with me? 
Yes. 

557
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,520
The the answer is always yes. 
When someone's in spirit and you

558
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,040
feel close to them, they are 
with you. 

559
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,480
Yes, period. 
Like that's always the case. 

560
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,240
Like there is no if, ands or 
buts. 

561
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
It's like a lot of people just 
want an outside source to 

562
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,160
validate their own intuition and
their own feelings. 

563
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,920
And that's why people got to do 
some fucking healing because the

564
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,200
12 year old version of you wants
validation from outside sources.

565
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,920
The 12 year old, that version of
you didn't get that support from

566
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,280
your parents or school or didn't
have the nicest clothes or 

567
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,920
whatever it is and you're 
scarred. 

568
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,680
You're scarred become because of
it. 

569
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,240
And there is scar tissue, baby, 
that you need to work through 

570
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,080
because at the end of the day, 
me validating something for you 

571
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,360
and you doing nothing with the 
information and continuing on 

572
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,920
your path of victimhood or I 
don't have the money or 

573
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,040
whatever. 
Like the people who say they 

574
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,160
don't have the money for like a 
reading or some spell work 

575
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,920
normally need it the most. 
And if you would take your last 

576
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,240
dollar to fucking buy a bunch of
junk for your kid for Christmas,

577
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Like think about how much 
healing and opportunity could 

578
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,760
arrive when you invest in 
yourself and give that love and 

579
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,320
attention to your kid or your 
family that maybe you didn't 

580
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,680
receive. 
You know people don't see it as 

581
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,480
an investment that has long term
changes and like a ripple effect

582
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,480
on everyone around you. 
So instead of going to Five 

583
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Below and dropping $80.00 on 
your kid, spend 40 bucks on a 

584
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800
reading and spend 40 bucks on 
your kid and then be present 

585
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,560
with your child. 
You know what I mean? 

586
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Like, it just doesn't make sense
to me how people act like 

587
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,600
they're trying to give their kid
everything they ever, never had,

588
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,320
and it's literally always only 
material items, period. 

589
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320
That is true, but I think that's
because there's so much stress 

590
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,520
put on the everyday. 
Like human life of your whole 

591
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,440
purpose is supposed to be just 
about money and people put 

592
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,200
happiness off to the side and 
self-care and time with their 

593
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280
kids and whatever. 
Because no, I have to make this 

594
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,600
amount of money and do this 
specific thing and have this 

595
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:17,400
specific job and you know, they 
don't want to do something that 

596
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,600
maybe it's going to be more 
difficult but gives them more 

597
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,480
time or you know, whatever the 
balance needs to be. 

598
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,920
That's totally true. 
You're saying like your kid, I 

599
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,200
don't care what age they are, 
would remember and appreciate 

600
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,800
your presence, your patience, 
your attention, your sincerity 

601
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,480
Over like, OK, my mom bought me 
an Xbox and locked me in my room

602
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,200
and let me play it for five 
hours today. 

603
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,160
Like here's. 
Here's something that that 

604
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,400
really bothers me is like, so 
I've had Christmases where I've 

605
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,280
given my son like new boots, new
clothes, new, you know, 

606
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,520
whatever, like things that are 
actually needed in life. 

607
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,960
And I've gotten like, that's so 
mean. 

608
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,440
You're supposed to get them 
toys, you know, like whatever. 

609
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,040
You should be getting them these
things. 

610
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,840
And I feel like people have such
a fucked sense of reality of 

611
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,840
like the things that actually 
matter. 

612
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,200
And my kid is going to get a toy
and he's literally not even 

613
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200
going to barely play with it on 
Christmas and probably never 

614
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120
play with it again. 
And I'm going to argue with him 

615
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,120
all the time that he needs to 
pick it up from the middle of 

616
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,840
his room. 
And it's only there because he's

617
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,960
moving it out of the way to go 
and get some shitty crinkled up 

618
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,040
little piece of paper that he 
made a cootie catcher with Like 

619
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,560
he people have again, just like 
this fucked sense of like 

620
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,080
reality. 
And I think that to expect that 

621
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,520
people are going to spend 
hundreds of dollars in all of 

622
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,640
these things on Christmas 
presents for their kids. 

623
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440
And if they don't do that, then 
like, they're shitty parents. 

624
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,840
I would have loved to go 
shopping for Christmas when I 

625
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,320
was a kid, get brand new 
clothes. 

626
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,920
My mom, that's what my parents 
did. 

627
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800
I got new clothes at Christmas 
all the time. 

628
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,840
I would go school shopping and I
got clothes at Christmas and my 

629
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,239
birthday. 
And I was never like, oh, I wish

630
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,000
I hadn't gotten this. 
I just think that capitalism has

631
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,320
brainwashed people and like, 
you're really just on this 

632
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,760
hamster wheel of what society 
wants. 

633
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,679
Like society wants a picket 
fence, society wants a new car. 

634
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,080
Society wants a big house. 
But nine times out of 10, 

635
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,920
whenever I have a client or 
someone around, that's like we 

636
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,760
upgraded our house and now we're
struggling because all of our 

637
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,400
extra income goes to our new 
mortgage or we lost all of our 

638
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,639
equity because we bought such a 
bigger house. 

639
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,000
And I thought, this is what I 
wanted. 

640
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,320
I hear that time and time again,
like, life is just so much 

641
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,239
simpler when we had our small 
house or our first house or our 

642
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,360
paid off car or whatever, and 
it's like you think you want it 

643
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,360
until it takes away all your 
freedom. 

644
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,720
Like a lot of people that make a
lot of money are very absent in 

645
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,640
their children's life. 
They travel a lot for work, they

646
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,760
work overtime. 
They're on this schedule and 

647
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,960
your kids aren't remembering 
that they got an Xbox at 7. 

648
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,800
They're going to remember that 
their dad missed every football 

649
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,640
game that they had. 
Or they're going to remember 

650
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,080
that like their dad was always 
home, but he was on the phone or

651
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,480
on his phone or watching sports 
or whatever. 

652
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,200
And I just feel like priorities 
have shifted for me when I 

653
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,920
stopped worrying about what 
society deems as successful. 

654
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,840
Like if you're an artist, you 
don't need someone to justify 

655
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480
that you're an artist. 
You can literally print off 

656
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,440
cards tomorrow that say you're 
an artist and start selling art 

657
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,600
and only thing that you need is 
consistency and confidence. 

658
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,800
If you have those two things, 
people will buy your stuff. 

659
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,200
But if you're not consistent, 
because a lot of people don't 

660
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,840
realize how hard it is to start 
a business, or how difficult it 

661
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,760
is to transition from the 
hamster wheel of capitalism into

662
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,560
peace and tranquility. 
Because peace will be having you

663
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,880
feel like you're bored. 
Peace will be having you feel 

664
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,320
like the other shoes going to 
drop. 

665
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,200
Peace will have you feel like 
you need to be doing something. 

666
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,160
And that is the actual opposite 
of what you need to be focused 

667
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,120
on. 
Because if you can't sit in 

668
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:28,200
peace and quiet, then your soul 
has so much chaos that it's 

669
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,640
craving because of your 
upbringing or because of your 

670
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,160
programs or because of society. 
Like I can't stand. 

671
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,000
People are like all I do is 
work. 

672
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,720
Like what kind of life is that? 
Because that sounds terrible. 

673
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:47,560
Because that sounds and then but
we're told that like that's what

674
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,240
you're supposed to be doing or 
you're lazy and you're 

675
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,880
unmotivated. 
And that was literally why I had

676
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,840
to take that three weeks off of 
my business was and like doing 

677
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,520
anything was because I was like,
I I always am having to do 

678
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,960
something and I don't understand
how to just be chill. 

679
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,840
And that was really difficult at
1st and then I didn't want to 

680
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,960
come back after. 
Here we are. 

681
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,720
I mean, I personally like, 
really have found balance. 

682
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,720
And when I see Angel numbers and
I look them up, it's like you've

683
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:24,120
learned to balance spirituality 
in your human life, or you've 

684
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,240
learned to balance monetary 
concerns with rest. 

685
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,040
Like if you're constantly on 
that hamster wheel of like, 

686
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,800
what's next, what's next, What's
next? 

687
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Or constantly worrying about 
things that are in the future, 

688
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,800
you are losing quality of life, 
like you are losing sleep, you 

689
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,840
are losing hair, you're losing 
peace, you're gaining wrinkles. 

690
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480
Whatever it is, get off the 
fucking hamster wheel. 

691
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,920
The one thing for me is I love 
buying presents, but I hate that

692
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,040
I have to go buy wrapping paper 
and bags and stuff because I 

693
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,480
think that that's like the worst
50 or $60.00 that I'm going to 

694
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,560
spend. 
I would much rather like just 

695
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,880
hand people their presents, but 
I'm like, no, they need to be 

696
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,560
wrapped because that's part of 
the fun. 

697
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,040
But whoever inventing invented 
wrapping paper is a fucking 

698
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,400
scammer. 
I fucking hate wrapping paper. 

699
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,560
And then when people are like, 
I'm sending you presents for the

700
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,080
kids, you're going to need to 
wrap them. 

701
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,520
I'm like, fuck you, you should 
have wrapped them like I don't. 

702
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,320
I think that that's probably 
stupid to say, but I genuinely 

703
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,320
don't want to. 
I usually get like a bag, like 

704
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,320
the bags, and I usually do the 
bags and then the tissue paper 

705
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,120
and I'll be like you've got bags
and tissue paper underneath the 

706
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,240
thing. 
I've also just kept my kids 

707
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,760
presents before in the Amazon 
boxes. 

708
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,760
Open box. 
I don't know. 

709
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,760
I don't. 
I don't give a fuck about the 

710
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,680
wrapping. 
I never understood that. 

711
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,000
I like what it looks like and I 
like it. 

712
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,800
I just hate spending money on 
it. 

713
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Like, I just hate spending money
on wrapping paper because like, 

714
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,760
if you get it after Christmas, 
it's like a dollar roll and if 

715
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,680
you get it before, it's like 
699. 

716
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,760
And I'm just like, why is there 
a 600% markup on this shit, 

717
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,280
'cause you know that it cost 
y'all $0.29 to make this so? 

718
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,960
I don't know. 
It's just like, it's more so for

719
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,760
me. 
It's not the wrapping portion, 

720
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,440
it's how much trash it creates, 
how it's just like a fucking 

721
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,720
landfill nightmare. 
And then I've got to go spend 

722
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:27,160
like an additional 50 to $60.00 
on materials to do all this tape

723
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,880
string. 
Yeah, That's why I don't want to

724
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,720
wrap. 
I don't want to have to do all 

725
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:32,480
of that. 
I don't. 

726
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,120
Like unwrapping presents. 
Like I buy myself presents and I

727
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,120
wrap them. 
I will expect you to send me 

728
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,080
something wrapped then showing 
me your wrapped skills. 

729
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,480
It's going to be wrapped in the 
UPS box. 

730
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:52,120
It's going to be bubble wrap. 
Do you like your? 

731
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,080
Do you like your stocking that 
you got? 

732
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,680
I do. 
And if you all did it here, we 

733
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,720
have merch that dropped and it's
on Gemini's website, 

734
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:08,000
covenofrejects.com. 
And we have coffee mugs, cups, 

735
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,840
shoes, hoodies, you name it. 
In the summer we'll have bathing

736
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,840
suits and towels and random 
stuff like that. 

737
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,400
But for now, go order you a 
stocking for Guaranteed. 

738
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:24,600
Christmas delivery and 
definitely tap in and see what 

739
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,400
else she has on her site because
she has a bunch of stuff. 

740
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,280
Thank you. 
We should do like flesh colored 

741
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,920
bathing suits that just have 
little candies on the nipples. 

742
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,840
Yeah, yeah, I bet you would. 
You would Fucking yeah, That's a

743
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,880
great idea. 
You could get the logo on the 

744
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,960
bottoms and you could just have 
my face on your butt cheek. 

745
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,080
There you go. 
Lick it, baby. 

746
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Lick it. 
Lick that. 

747
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,680
Lick it like a lollipop. 
So yeah, we just wanted to tap 

748
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,680
in with you all and drop this 
little bonus episode and we will

749
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,320
have a guest to drop on 
Wednesday, our regular scheduled

750
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,040
programming Gemini. 
Is there anything else that you 

751
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,960
want to add? 
Did you want to pull a card 

752
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,800
tonight? 
Yeah, I could pull a card. 

753
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,280
Let me get this bitch off my 
lap. 

754
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Perfection. 
My husband had to meet me at the

755
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,480
chiropractic office today to 
come and bring me the dog. 

756
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,280
And he brought her inside and 
she thought that when my boss 

757
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,400
went to give my husband the 
adjustment, she thought that my 

758
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,200
boss was trying to attack Brian.
And so she started fucking 

759
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,880
barking in the office and like, 
going fucking nuts, thinking 

760
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,520
that he was getting mauled to 
death by the chiropractor. 

761
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:59,160
All. 
Right it is card 17. 

762
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Have the sign, says Psychic. 
It is for the soothsayer and you

763
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,800
guys. 
If you're listening, look up the

764
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Angel #17 also and see how it 
applies to this or to you in the

765
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,120
moment. 
The sign is Aries, the gift is 

766
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,480
far sightedness, and the shadow 
is a limited lens. 

767
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,800
This gift reveals a perspective 
that far surpasses the limited 

768
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,800
subjective lens of the shadow. 
When you're able to access this 

769
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,040
higher frequency state, you see 
how every individual part plays 

770
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,320
an integral role in the whole, 
and no single element is to 

771
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,480
blame. 
You bear witness to overarching 

772
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,000
patterns in the collective and 
have the capacity to foresee the

773
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,240
implications of those patterns 
in the future. 

774
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,880
Thus, you are a sort of fortune 
teller who has made a quantum 

775
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,920
leap from mere logic. 
By infusing your magic into the 

776
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,920
world, you help the collective 
to shift into greater planes of 

777
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,480
consciousness. 
Ask questions. 

778
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,760
Be open to possibility and allow
your curiosity to fan the flame.

779
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Your shadow is a limited lens. 
When out of balance, you might 

780
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,720
prioritize the left brain and 
approach life from a more 

781
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:20,880
masculine driven model model 
model. 

782
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,080
With this comes rigidity, a 
hyper focus on logic and 

783
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,240
structure that doesn't always 
allow for fluidity and grace or 

784
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,960
the room to be mistaken. 
Opinions run amok. 

785
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,640
By abandoning the feminine 
counterbalance, opinions seem to

786
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,320
solidify as fact, and we forget 
our interconnected nature. 

787
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,600
But nothing is quite as obvious 
as it seems. 

788
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,320
Wisdom isn't necessarily a 
product of the intellectual 

789
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,280
mind. 
To move past the shadow, honor 

790
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,960
both feminine and masculine 
energies, and learn to challenge

791
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,080
your own adopted viewpoints. 
Your themes are farsightedness, 

792
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,000
curiosity, balance, and 
patterns. 

793
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,120
Beautiful, beautiful. 
And as always, if you go to 

794
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,280
lollipoppodcast.com, you can 
e-mail us, you can send guest 

795
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,480
suggestions, topics, 
suggestions, Just an 

796
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,240
announcement. 
We have Trash Lee coming on to 

797
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,200
the podcast. 
Jim and I made a video on TikTok

798
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,680
earlier today. 
Submit questions because she's 

799
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,200
been interviewed by people like 
Bunny and just beyond. 

800
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,600
She's done all kinds of 
interviews. 

801
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,480
She has a lot of things that 
she's already spoke on. 

802
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,880
Her story was one of the most 
wild rides that I've ever been 

803
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,400
on, ever. 
Like, I was just speechless on 

804
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,200
some of the things that she's 
been through. 

805
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040
So we really want to touch on 
what she's building, what she's 

806
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,280
accomplishing, how she's grown 
from that. 

807
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,400
So it's going to be really, 
really exciting. 

808
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,560
Her episode will air like the 
first week of the new year, so 

809
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:02,640
you have plenty of time to 
submit questions, topics and 

810
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,760
direct questions for her, either
on TikTok or our website at 

811
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,520
lollipoppodcast.com, and we look
forward to seeing you all next 

812
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,760
time in Candyland. 
Yippee Kaye motherfuckers. 

813
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,400
Bye, bye.
