Welcome to Fucking Candy Land, hosted by Rampage and Gemini.
What's up, fuckers? Welcome back to Candyland.
So this is the guest I have been really manifesting to come on to
our podcast. She is a TikTok sensation.
This girl has a a massive platform and she's just so down
to earth. I want to bring in invite Kayla
Jayden. So welcome.
Hey. I'm happy to be here.
I really love that when you pop up on screen, you're over here
with a blunt fucking ready to go.
Oh yeah, I'm ready, because let's talk about it.
Yes. So I found Kayla on TikTok.
She has a lot of hot takes. She's super opinionated and I
really fuck with that. Like, I like people who are
like, this is me, you can take it or fucking leave it.
Because I feel like that's how Jim and I and myself are and we
really want to Only Connect with people who are like authentic
like that. So Kayla lives in Louisville.
She is local, but we have never met.
And we probably haven't met because I'm like 10 years older
than you, so. That may be you got to come to
our New Year's party. We got coming up.
Yes. That'll be fun.
I don't know how we ever ran into each other.
I'll be everywhere. I know I've been seeing you
everywhere like, and a lot of people that follow you, Like we
have a lot of mutual people that I see that follow you as well.
So. How did you get started on
TikTok? So there's a few answers to
this. So my first ever viral video, I
posted this thing. Now mind you, I had three
followers. They were only people I knew.
It was my sister, my cousin, and my friend from school and I had
posted it literally for them because I had no followers.
And it was a video of me walking into my grandmother's house.
My dad was having dinner with his now wife and my grandparents
for the first time and they were playing Lynyrd Skynyrd off of my
Alexa and I came in and I told my Alexa.
I said Alexa play my neck, my back and I just started busting
it down and they were all yelling at me.
In the video they're Kayla, stop Alexa, no trying to get it off.
It was just chaotic and I posted it that went viral.
Got a couple of 1000 followers from that.
I was like, that was weird. And then I and then the second
one, and then mind you, I was just, I didn't really have like
a niche. Which is so weird for me because
so many influencers are like, you have to have a niche, You
have to have a niche. I posted whatever the fuck I
wanted because my second viral video was completely unrelated.
It was me slamming Caitlin Bennett into like, actual
garbage because of her very backwards political opinions.
And that's really where that got started with the political
videos that I do, all the very opinionated videos, lots of the
educational content. They were like, we need more of
this. And I was like 16th, so that was
just like, oh, you guys think I'm smart?
OK, OK. So yeah, that's really how it
started. I was really young, but I've had
a lots of different things give me, like a lot of people have
seen me from a lots of different things like my political videos
or just like funny content that I've made or my Waffle House
videos. I had a whole, like, folder for
that because that was a mess. But yeah.
So Jim and I, have you ever saw her on your For you page?
No, you haven't been on. Well, I mean I'm sure that maybe
you like came up on my FYP, but I found you because Paige sent
me your your profile a while ago and was like, it would be so
cool to have her on the podcast. We would have such like an
amazing conversation And we just caught your live right before we
started on this and we're literally texting each other
like this is going to be such a good episode.
Like, this is going to be wild because we wanted it to be a
longer episode, 'cause we're getting time with you.
And sometimes, like, when you want to have a conversation with
somebody, you're like, well, fuck, it's been 30 minutes and
how are we going to keep this going for another 30?
And with you talking, I was just like, OK, so the topics would
literally never end. I don't want to know about the
video. Like, do you remember the video
page that you found her with? Like what the video like
specifically was 'cause I want to hear about it.
Yeah, so it was a Waffle House thing.
And what caught my eye is it said ladies in Louisville, KY,
watch out for this. Or it said Louisville, KY,
Waffle House or something like that.
And I remember being so taken back by the video that I
instantly found you on Instagram and I followed you and then you
followed me back and I was like, damn, this is about to be my
friend. I was like, this is my friend
now and this was probably like a year and a half ago.
I mean, I don't know when that Waffle House was.
It's been a while. And so then I.
Following you. And I saw that you were like
super opinionated. And I'm like, I fuck with this
because I love when people are like, this is me and you can
fuck off. And then you started getting
like really tattooed. And I love tattoos and I just
like everything you were doing. I was like, damn, I really wish
at 20 years old or whatever that I was that wild and free.
You know what I mean? Vibing, tell us about the Waffle
House video for those who have not seen it to know the details.
Yes. So what had happened was I was
working and I was a server and I was one of the only female
servers on the floor at the time.
And a man had came in and I started to get him seated or
whatever. But then he went straight to the
bathroom and I noticed a lot of time I went by and that's not
unusual working at Waffle House. We have lots of drug addicts
that come in, use the bathroom for, you know what?
And I give them time. I'm like, I'm not that person
that's going to be like, get out.
Like, these people are homeless anyway.
So I'm just like, let them, let them get their coffee, you know?
And it had been a while, so I was a little concerned.
So I wanted to do a little, you know, welfare fact.
So as I'm going over there, he's coming out.
And he was like, I need to, I need to talk to you about this
bathroom. There's, there's a dirty needle
in the bathroom. And I'm like, Oh my God.
Like, I'm so sorry. I was thinking like something
else had happened. Maybe he was in there doing
drugs, but he because he had been in there for a while.
But I was like, OK, maybe you know, so he was like, I'll show
you where it's at. And I was like, OK and so he
was, he told me where it was at and he said it was, he said it
was on the sink. I believe if I'm remembering
correctly. And I go in there and
immediately when I walk in, I don't see anything on the sink.
And I turn around and he's right behind me in the bathroom.
And so I'm like freaked the fuck out, 'cause I'm just like, you
cannot be in the bathroom with me.
So I scream and luckily my Co worker, who's the cook, was a
male who's, it's quite scary. So he comes, you know, running
and he's like, you need to out. You know, there's customers
yelling at him or like, why are you following the lady into the
bathroom? And so at that point, you know,
I'm just kind of like in investigator mode.
Once we got him out because he, like, freaked out and ran out
the store. So I was like, something's up.
So I'm like, looking in the bathroom.
I moved the trash can and behind the trash can was a fully loaded
syringe of heroin. And so that was just like,
absolutely terrifying. And when I finally had filed a
police report and talked to Metro, they had said that they
were investigating similar incidences at other, like,
corporate businesses where an employee had got followed into
the bathroom, like. And so that was just like,
actually, like just terrifying. So I was like, I need to make a
video about this because like, if they're telling me this has
happened in other places, like somebody could be like this
could be a cereal predator, Like, that's terrifying.
Why is there a fully loaded syringe like is the thing to
like to put it in you? That's what I was trying to
understand. I was like because because to
put in direct respect, I'm quite familiar with drugs.
It's been, I've been exposed to it growing up and seeing the
syringe and how much was in it, like that would have killed me.
So I don't know what the intentions were quite frankly,
but it it scared me seeing it. I have a picture of it and
everything. And what scared me even more was
to follow up with all of that and telling my employers that I
was filing a police report because they really didn't seem
too concerned about it. They were just like, OK, well,
if he comes back in and I was just kind of like, can we pull
the cameras? You know, I had to file a police
report for them to pull the cameras.
And so they kind of wanted me to be really hush, hush about it.
They didn't want me to do the interview that I had with WLKY
about it. So I was just kind of like being
quiet about it and I didn't like that.
And basically, it when I told them that the needle was in the
bathroom, my manager took it, broke it in half and threw it
away. I was like, that literally is
evidence. Why would you do that?
And it was before, right before the police came.
I was like, awesome. That's so weird.
Yeah, I took a picture. I took a picture before he broke
it. So.
When I saw that on TikTok, I was fucking floored.
Like, I already know that, like Louisville has gotten pretty
ghetto. She lives in Idaho, so she
doesn't live here. She's never been here.
So Louisville has like evolved into this fucking hood rat
station. Like, I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it's meth. I don't know if it's fentanyl.
I don't know what it is, but it is turned The Breakfast Club to
the point where like, I have a fully loaded gun.
No safety on me at all times. Like, like like, I will shoot
you. So it's crazy to hear that,
like, 'cause we used to go to Waffle House at like 2:00 in the
morning. No care in the world.
It's the one on it's the one on Westport Rd.
A really nice one, like a nicer area.
Middle Town. Yeah, and it's just crazy
because like where the Riff Raff used to be on one side of town,
now they go to the rich side of town and like rob people and
carjack people concept. Like you're almost safer in the
hood than you are out in the nicer areas now.
I'm in Shively and I'm chilling. Yeah, yeah, like, I think
because Shively police are on their shit like they are on
their shit out there and you do not want to fuck with them.
So that's why that's. Why We live right off Dixie, so
yeah. They're everywhere.
Is that considered like a like the nicer part?
We're talking about two different parts.
So where you at? So.
I'm a rougher part. I like it though.
That's where I'm comfortable, so.
Kayla, we had a guest on this past week.
She's a local tattoo artist. Her name's Jasmine and she
brought up Jay Mall and Jim and I goes, what's AJ Mall?
What's your take? I don't know.
You've never what is what is AJ Mall.
Honestly, I have once and I don't think I will go again.
I don't know. I don't know.
It's overhyped. It's a scary I like I heard your
story earlier. So your girlfriend, Summer,
approached someone in the mall and asked them if they she could
take a bite of their sandwich. Yes.
So we were sitting in the food court.
I was eating my lunch and she was like, I'm going to go ask
that man to get a bite out his sandwich.
She was like Sagna and my friend was like, you won't.
And so she got up, goes up to him and was like, can I get up
out of your sandwich? And he's like, what the fuck?
Like, why do you want to bite out my sandwich?
She's like, I just want to try it.
I just want to bite. He's like, are you OK?
She's like, yeah, I just, I just want to bite.
Like he's like, interrogating her and he's, like, ends up
being like, yeah, like you can have a bite of my sandwich.
And so he gives her a bite of the sandwich.
She takes a bite and she can't eat pork because it makes her
sick. So she takes a bite, realizes
there's pork in it, and she spits it, spits it out, and she
goes thank you and just walks away.
And he's like cracking up because at that point he like
realized she was like messing around and shit and he like,
looked over and saw all of us laughing.
And so they all started laughing.
It was. It was actually, like, pretty
wholesome, but. I think it's funny that the
people in the comments on when you're telling this story, you
had some people that were like, people were so pressed in your
comments like saying how mean it was.
And then you've got people literally commenting on the live
who were just hyping you up that are like, that's so mean.
Why did she do that? That's awful.
And I'm like, it always is a fucking bitch on the app that
has nothing to do with the story.
That's more fucking mad than the person who got their sandwich
bit. No, literally.
Literally. I'm like, he was laughing.
It was his sandwich. Like, he thought it was
hilarious. He was actually enjoying it.
It was funny, like they were all his whole group was laughing.
So so do. You imagine encountering people
with a sense of humor. Did they recognize you all from
TikTok at that point? I don't know if they.
I'm sure they knew that that's what was going on, but I don't
know if they knew who we were. But that does happen a lot.
Every time I go to Saint Matthew's Mall, I I'm always
running into something. They're like, it's.
I can just tell when they look at me because it's always like a
it's always like A and I'm like, you know who I am or like all
here Oh my God, is that that Tik toker.
And I'm like, damn, you bitches can't whisper hey.
Do you feel like TikTok has enabled you to make a lot of
friends or does it create a lot of like haters as well?
I know social media, like when you're authentic, people cannot
fucking stand it. They hate when someone loves
themselves enough to be vulnerable and share things.
And me and Jim and I talk about this all the time and I feel
like there's like a double edged sword with that.
How do you feel about that? Well, honestly, so I feel like
something that's not talked about a lot with influencers is
how difficult it is to make friends that aren't influencers.
And because I feel like, you know, it's just hard to read up
like people's genuine intentions because it's like, I'll think I
made like a genuine friend, You know, I'm like, OK, cool, we're
hanging out. Oh, let's make a TikTok.
Oh, let's, let's, let's do this. Let's do that.
I'm like, damn, I thought you liked me like, But that's
something that I feel like is like the bigger issue with, like
as far as friendships being a tic tocker.
But like, as far as my connections that I've made
through TikTok with other Tik tokers, I've met some really
great people, some not so great. You'd be surprised.
Some of your favorite tik tokers are assholes in real life.
But yeah, the haters, they're they're rough.
That's something that I definitely struggled with for a
while. That was something like when I
first started social media, something I didn't prepare
myself for, especially with as young as I was when I started.
I was just like wanting to argue back with everybody because
bitch shut up like. But after a while I just kind
of, like, laugh at it now or sometimes, like, if I've really
got something good to say or you really got me fired up, I will
respond with a video and read you to pieces.
But normally I'm just like, you're dumb.
Like I'm right, you're wrong. So, but yeah, it definitely does
suck. Some people can't handle it
though, and I've seen a lot of tik tokers fall off of social
media because of that shit. It's rough.
We know a girl who literally ended up deleting her TikTok.
She had hundreds of thousands of followers and she was like on
the witchy side of the app and she got hit with like having
coyote bones or something. And so everybody called her like
a cultural appropriator. And literally she just like got
off of the app and wanted nothing to do with it anymore
because people gave out like her address, her kids, schools, all
types of stuff. And no matter how many like
videos she came with and was like, that's not what it was
like. You guys are misunderstanding
like this isn't a thing. People didn't care and we.
I feel like that was just proven to with like the.
I don't know if you guys were up on the Luke Combs situation with
the Tumblr, but. Like.
Everybody on the Internet's over here dragging this man about,
like, how fucking dare you. And he wakes up at 5:00 in the
morning and is like, I didn't know anything about this, you
know what I mean? But, like, people are so quick
on cancel culture that you don't even have to know a full story
or hear from somebody before you're like, I'm gonna go burn
your mom's house down. Oh yeah, like, honestly, like
even recently some really strange people leaked my address
and I've had my phone number leaked a few times.
It's it's definitely not fun. And that's another issue that
I've had with with making friends is like trusting
someone. Like, it's like if I can be your
friend, I need to give you my phone number because that's
really the easiest way to reach me because I get so many DMS, so
many like people contact me so much through other platforms.
It's just the best way to reach me.
But it's like, do I trust you with my phone number, you know?
And so it's just it's hard. But definitely I feel like when
it comes to cancel culture, it definitely can be rough.
But I think the biggest thing that I've learned with is that
like, no matter how silly it might feel or whatever it is, it
sucks people because people want to be like don't don't.
You don't need to explain yourself because like, sometimes
it is good to have that attitude.
But like I what I've noticed is that when a certain group feels
offended by something, I always feel like even if I don't
understand it, if you feel offended, I will apologize.
And I feel like that's the biggest part is accountability
with like wanting to upkeep even with getting canceled because
there's no way you're going to have a platform and not make a
mistake. People are going to call you on
your shit and I feel like it. The biggest part of it is how
they handle it, and some people handle it by never addressing it
and just ignoring it and waiting for people to stop talking about
it. Some people delete their whole
social medias because people get doxed and harassed and things
like that. But yeah, I've seen some some
crazy ways that cancel culture has unfolded some people's
platforms. For sure I.
Feel like the generation that you're in, like the range of
people you all grew up with the Internet fully.
Like, I'm 31 so I had some playtime outside before, like
AOL and instant Messenger came out.
But it's like I constinctively remember when my childhood went
like fully Internet and we were so young on Myspace, like
meeting fucking strangers. Like it is crazy that I'm alive
right now because I've snuck out my window to go hang out with a
17 year old boy from the Internet at like 14 or 13.
Don't that. But like hello tell mom I was a
bad kid and it's crazy now because like you all literally
have these personas online and then like you're talking about
trying to make friends in person.
People just want to piggy pack. They want a clout chase in your
generation And I can imagine it would be difficult like that's
why like when you follow me back, I was like this is going
to be my best friend. Like, I don't know how this is
going to be my new friend because I know how it is to
like, want to connect with people, but they only want what
you can offer them. And we deal with that.
So much like with our podcast, like we posted an episode and
then someone commented, I want to come talk shit, We don't talk
shit. You don't even listen.
Like, don't say that you don't listen to us.
Like. No.
Yeah. No.
I I feel like, honestly, just another thing that I feel like
I've noticed with people within, you know, my, like, Gen.
Z. It's just that a lot of people
are so comfortable, you know, with social media that they
don't know how to interact in real life.
And that even boils down to the bullying.
Because some of the shit that bitches say to me won't say to
my face. And I I hear it all through
social media, slapping at the gums, slapping the gums.
And I'm like, but if you saw me in real life, you would walk
right past me. And so I feel like, you know,
it's it's definitely like a communication barrier because
then when you meet people in real life, you don't know.
It's just like, oh, I can't just text you and I can't say LMAO
when I'm sitting here staring at my phone not even laughing.
Oh shit. I got to actually, you know.
That's because they know in person your girl's got a bandana
with a lock inside in her back pocket.
Yeah, you know. Jim and I probably doesn't know
about this, but I know that you had one of those parties in
person and like, some dude hit you or something like that.
Tell us about that. So I had a party that I was
promoting for On 4th St., there was my first first forewarning,
4th St. What's up with 4th St.
You're going to have to make it real fucking broken down for me.
Lots of lots of lots of drunks, lots of fights, lots of
shootings. You know, downtown.
But the and the venue, you know, it's not super secure.
So there's usually lots of stuff that happens there.
But I personally had never been in this stuff, OK.
I'm usually just there getting everybody lit, you know, getting
very excited. But I was dancing with this one
girl. We were chilling.
You know she she's she's twerking.
I'm twerking. She she's like, oh, I follow you
on Tiktok. I'm like, hey, girl, you know,
we're completely cool. And then my friend Maddie, she
was in the stage where she needed to go home.
And so we were trying to arrange an Uber for her.
And she's like, falling all over the place.
We're trying to. I'm like, OK, this is like, OK,
y'all babysit because I'm not letting nobody.
We're not. I don't say that.
And this dude comes up, tries to get behind her, and I'm like,
you're weird. Everybody's been seeing her
falling all over the place. Back up, back up.
He's like, OK, my bad, my bad. Backs away and also tries to ask
me if I want to dance. I told him I was there with my
girlfriend. He said, oh, I'll dance with
both of you all. We were like, no thank you, so
he's already making it weird. Comes back over to her and tries
to get behind her again while she's again falling all over the
place. Like her brother and me are like
sitting there with her and he's like coming up and so me having
to be big sister, I pushed him because back up and just a
little step arm you know back away And his his little homeboys
was right behind him where I pushed him into.
So they get up in my face. So I've got like 3 dudes in my
face they're all screaming at me bitch this bitch that oh, what
do you want to do? I'm like because what do you
want to do? I'll hit a man.
I I'm, I definitely will lose, but I will hit you.
And how fucking creepy to be like your dudes trying to
assault a super drunk girl and you guys don't do anything about
it so a woman's got a stiff arm, you and then all your little
Dicks are going to come up and yell in my face Anyways,
Continue. I fucking met her trash.
Yes, they are. And so then the girl I was
dancing with earlier comes up, She's like, what's going on?
What's going on? That's my boyfriend you're
talking to. What's going on?
And I was like, what's going on? So her boyfriend was one of the
dudes who got in my face after I pushed the other dude.
So the other dude was just like their friend that was with them.
She was like, that's my boyfriend and his brother.
So don't talk to them. Talk to me.
Don't talk to them, talk to me. She keeps repeating herself.
She's mad. She's also, you know,
intoxicated. I'm intoxicated.
And so I'm, I'm not trying to escalate the situation.
I was like, listen, like, calm down.
I was like, I promise, like they didn't do anything.
Like, they just kind of got in my face.
But I was like their friend that they're with keeps trying to
touch like damn near reached his hand up my little sister's dress
and I don't do that. And so I step armed him and
pushed him and they didn't know what was going on.
They seen me push him and they got up in my face.
I was like let them know this ain't nothing to do with them.
And so me and her are trying to de escalate whatever.
And the one who it got all started by who was violated.
She's very drunk, you know, still needing to get home, but
she's not wanting to leave because all this is going on.
She gets in the girl's face and puts her finger in the face.
And I was like, oh, no. And she, like, didn't
understand, like I was de escalating.
So she didn't know, like, what to do.
And so she like, and then the girl was like, what's up?
And I was like, you're kidding me?
You're kidding me. I was like, great.
And so at that point, I wasn't being listened to.
And so I wasn't even worried about the fight.
I was irritated that I was being ignored.
So I turned around to walk away because I was like, y'all got
that. So I turn around and I feel
boom. And so I'm like, what the you?
And so I got snuck by the girls, the girl grabs my hair, then the
dudes come over, they start all just punching us, hitting us,
kicking us, pushing us. And then my girlfriend tries to
step in, a guy grabs her by her shoulders and is like holding
her back. So she's just having to sit here
and watch this and she's screaming, kicking, trying to
get them off of her, but like it's like a big dude and so then
we're all fighting whatever. And then my friend finally goes
and gets security. They break it up.
And then there we had two LMPD officers outside.
They come in and they grab Maddie because she was
respectfully the sloppiest. So they grabbed her first
because they were they were concerned about her.
So they we got her out the building and I followed them to
let them know, like, what was going on and also wait for them
outside so we could do it again because that wasn't fair.
We're going to try that again one more time, and we're going
to do it one-on-one. And so I waited outside and now,
mind you, about 75 to 100 people accumulate outside.
They're like, yo, Kayla James about to fight again.
Oh my gosh, she said she's waiting for him.
She said bring them out. And then we fought again and
again and again and again and again and we kept going until
they stopped jumping me. And I think I fought the girl
once, about once, once, one-on-one.
And right as we started fighting one-on-one, it was good for a
while. It was tussling.
Police officers aren't doing anything.
They're standing there. One of them goes, what the fuck
do we do? Who's like, I don't fucking
know. And so they're just standing
there and we're fighting. And then one of the dudes, the
one who started it all by touching Maddie, he comes over,
oh, punches me in my face in front of LMPD.
So then they grab him, slam him on the ground, and that's the
video that was on my Instagram story where he's getting
handcuffed. And then Summer comes and steps
on his head while he's in handcuffs like twice and gets
knocked over. Yeah, it was more of a stomp,
but. Summer's your girlfriend, right?
Yes. OK, so many things.
First of all, I don't like that you got your fucking hair pulled
because you were directly in her face.
And I feel like if you're going to stand there toe to toe and be
on some shit and running your mouth, then you should be face
to face handling it. Also, you're my fucking spirit
animal. Because I tell you what, I would
be outside of the fucking building too.
There's a video. I ended up reposting it, but
somebody posted a video of me. It ended up on TikTok.
It went viral. It was a video of me outside of
the venue. Somebody hands me a spedco
bottle goes baby, you you want to take a drink?
I said And then I put, I gave him back the bottle.
I said bring her out and it's just literally just me taking a
shot and I'm like this and they put like they put music to the
back of it. And so then I took it, put, put,
put like a little badass song to the back of it and I posted it
on my Instagram and I said in case y'all forgot who I am.
And I was like, for one, I fucking love this girl because
girl code like facts, like don't fucking touch my friend at all.
And I feel like that's Jim and I with me like very protective
over me. And like, people always say that
she's making me meaner, but it's not true.
She just stands on business. She just stands on fucking
business. And like, I feel like, like you
said earlier with the Internet generation, they don't know how
to stand on business. So when they meet Someone Like
You who's like real, honest, open, whatever, they they don't
like that. And boys are fucking weird,
especially younger boys, because they can't appoint a girl
without a screen in front of them.
They don't know how to act human in person.
And when they get around people, it's either drama or like
nonsense. Like there's no fun.
Like, we used to go out and have fun.
There wasn't drama, but I remember like back in 2017,
there was this place called Sully's and it was like this big
place where everybody went. It was so cool.
It was like the highlight of the the Louisville nightlife.
And some girl didn't same shit to me.
Her boyfriend was popping off and I told his ass to back up
and then she snuck me from behind and grabbed my hair and
did the bullshit and I beat the fuck out of this girl.
Like it was one of those things where my friend didn't even know
it was happening because they snuck up behind and that's so
fucking common. And I don't get it, but like,
one's face square up and act like, you know what's about to
go down. But I saw that video where you
were like, tell them to come out here and all that.
And I was like, yeah, this girl's ready to fuck y'all up.
So you know, yeah, literally. Like, when I posted that,
everybody was like, oh shit, like, what happened?
It was crazy how many people were hyping it up.
They were like recording like there's got to be like there's
so many videos from that night like.
And it was funny too, because the first time we fought when
she had snuck me or whatever. After we separated, when we
fought again, it was initiated by me because I I went face to
face with her. I said I said run it again now
that we're face to face because she snuck me.
And so then we go fighting again, but then the boys jump in
again and that's when Ellen BDI came all in.
But they could just kept jumping me and jump me and jump me,
which is funny because I have AI have a TikTok somewhere deep in
my page that's like me in a room full of people, full of the
people who jumped me. And it's me sitting in an empty
room. And I I had to do edit like
after I got jumped and I was just like, well that humbled me
a little bit. We call it a pussy bop.
I don't know where, like when I was growing up, it was always a
pussy bop. If you like, tried to sneak up
on somebody from the back. And so it'd be like, oh, and
then she tried to pussy bop me. And like now, as an adult, I've
never heard anybody else say it, but I'm always like, you got
pussy bop. Do you feel like when you have
like this big following that people want to try to humble you
or people want to try to come for you?
Because I feel like in Louisville it's like a toxic.
I know you talked about it earlier, but it is this toxic
place that, like, no one wanted to support me and my spiritual
business until Bunny XO did. As soon as Bunny XO endorsed me,
people were like, I went to school with her.
I know her, I know her. But it's like, it takes a famous
person with millions of followers to endorse you.
And then people are like, I know her and I'm sure you had people
like, we went to middle school together.
What's up, girl? Like, you're like, yeah, you
made me. And yeah, you talk shit about me
like, fuck you, you know? Like, do you feel like that
happens more and more the bigger that you get on social media?
Oh yeah, definitely. Like even when when I first,
when I had my first viral video, because TikTok was still so
small, like it had just changed from musically to TikTok when I
had went viral. So I was like pretty like known
at school. They were like, oh, they like,
that's the TikTok girl. Like they could call me TikTok
girl. I had like 10K.
Like it wasn't like super big to me at that point, but I was just
calling like, oh, that's kind of cool.
And I had even noticed just even then with the 10K followers that
I had, that girls that had never given me the time of day were
like, Oh my God, I saw your TikTok.
And I'm like, OK. And then, like, as I got bigger,
I definitely noticed there, there, there would be people.
You know, come on my life. I'm like, Oh my.
God Remember Me. Yeah.
You were not nice to me. I do remember you.
Yes. Or like, it's somebody who I
barely knew. And I'm like, are you trying to
act like we were friends? I don't like that.
But and even with like just regular friends that I've made
since becoming social media famous is that like anytime it
becomes like a falling off situation, it has to be on
social media. Like it's never dealt with
privately because it's like it's it's always has to be some
camera shit afterwards. And even with other tik tokers,
that's what I'm kind of dealing with right now is like, I just
feel like people like when they realize that bringing up
somebody's name gets them attention or gets, you know,
gets them that pool that they're wanting, they're like, I'm going
to keep going. And then next thing you know, I
got, I got my name brought up about 50 times and I'm like,
what is going on? There's beef.
I don't even know what's going on.
Like, I don't even be knowing people that well to be having
beef with them on social media. And I'm just like, oh, you don't
like me? That sucks.
That's always something that Paige and I have like been so
clear about. It's like we've had fallings out
and and things like that with people who have platforms, who
don't have platforms. And we've always just been like
we're not going to name drop because the 2nd that you're name
dropping. Here's The thing is like, yeah,
people get views and they get followers off of putting
somebody else's name in their mouth and talking shit.
But the followers that they get are people that followed them
because they talk shit and because they like the messiness
and the drama. And so those people are going to
give that same energy to them. You're only vibing with them
right now because they say something that you like.
But the second that they say something that those petty
followers do not like, then all of a sudden it's dragging them.
And it's like people can build authentic social medias.
And like that's something that we're really working on is
building like our authentic social medias where we're not
having to get views because we're talking shit about
somebody else. Or or sharing like, messy drama.
Like, there's plenty of messy drama.
You know, when you're podcasting and talking to people behind the
scenes, things that never get aired?
Because let me tell you, I won't name drop.
But people really do have a whole fucking persona on social
media And then you get on to interview them and you're like,
who the fuck is this bum bitch? Who is this bro?
You didn't wash your ass this week and I can fucking smell it.
No, I've had this. I've had the same, like,
feelings about, like, like, I'll follow a TikTok for so long,
finally get that mutual back. I'm like, OK, cool, get to try
to be friends with them. And I'm like, oh, you're weird.
I don't like you Like that's not OK.
Yeah, 'cause we both are psychic mediums, so we really have a lot
of spiritual following and people that are like attracted
to our light or attracted to, like what we're offering.
And it's amazing the people in the spiritual community that are
fucking frauds that like, they literally somehow got a viral
video or somehow got that notoriety.
And I would rather have like that organic, authentic
following. And it only be 50,000 people,
then have 500,000 people that want to try to use and abuse me.
But we find that it's the people with the bigger platforms that
are so inauthentic at their core.
Like we interviewed this girl, we never aired it.
She had like 2,000,000 followers and all of her videos were so
welcoming and sensual and she called everyone baby and it was
just really inviting. This bitch showed up after she
done hit the chicken bone. She was in her car, had the Dome
light on, basically hit a rail off the dashboard like it was
weird. I was like bitches on drugs and
like if you would have saw her on her videos, she looked like a
whimsical fairy. But then you get her in the car
and she looks like literally a crackhead.
Like it just did. Not even.
Know. It was crazy.
Yeah, I feel that. Definitely met a lot of tik
tokers where I was just like definitely, definitely vibe with
them through their social media personality and then it has
nothing to do with their regular personality that they have,
which fine is the same. It's one and the same.
I just, I don't. You like it.
You don't. I don't really care.
What I like about your social media is like when I click on
your live, it's just like you're having like raw conversations
with people. And you're not just like, oh,
look at me, get ready with me. But you're like, I'm rolling a
blunt. We're about to smoke.
I'm chilling. What are you doing like?
And you like, know people in your life because they come in
there. And I used to go live a lot and
I used to love connecting with people.
But then I started getting what we call like a watching spirit
where they don't interact, but they just watch you and like try
to copy you and learn from you, but they don't actually support
you. And I just got fucking sick of
it. I was like, I'm sick of these
watching spirits and I don't hardly go live at all.
So Tick Tock is totally like Shadow banned me because they
want you to go live, They want you to promote gifts, They want
you to promote the shop. And it's just gotten so Stammy
over there that I'm like, I really wish Instagram would
like, fix their shit and stop playing games because it was so
much more fun when it was like building authentic community.
Rather than buy the blue check mark sponsor, add your post so
that we'll show it. And I told Gemini before, I'm
like, Kayla has a die hard following because I see like
your comments and I see your lives and they're always lit.
And I'm like she's got a big, like following a people that
actually support her, that actually like vocally support
you. And I really like that because
that just shows how true you are because so many people really
resonate with you. And I've watched you in the last
year just like go up on social media and I'm like, teach me
your ways, mommy. Like I see you like, I love that
for you. And like, that's what we like.
Like we don't like people that are trying to compete, that are
trying to steal, that are trying to like, chase clout.
Like, it's like I dislike connecting with boss people and
just being at the table and learning from people.
But like so many people want to steal the recipe.
And it's like, baby, you do not have the flavor.
You can use the recipe, but your shit sucks still.
No, yeah, definitely. We've had, we've had a few
incidences like that where it's like because like me and Summer
are both the same way with social media.
It's like the person we are on social media is the person we
are off of social media. And it's funny because most of
Summer's videos aren't like a TikTok trend or something.
It's usually just her screaming at her phone in some sort,
saying something funny. And there was one time a another
TikTok couple copied her video, but they word for word.
But it was a video. Like it wasn't a trend or
anything. It was literally like just
things Summer was saying, like just off the top of her head.
And like, I don't know why, but they copied it like verbatim and
then blocked Summer. And so Summer never saw the
video, but it got sent to me. And so then I saw it and I was
like, what the hell? And we addressed it to them and
it became this whole thing. And they, like, said that they
never blocked Summer. Even though Summer could not see
their page, it said account not found, which means she's blocked
and I could see them fine. But yeah, it was the whole
thing. And then they left TikTok
because of it. And now they're like a little
YouTube couple with no followers.
Wow. That's what happens when you
steal people Shit, I guess. I can't imagine 'cause I I heard
some are talking when you were live, and I just can't imagine.
I'm just trying to imagine like some, like cute little suburban
people trying to repeat. I can't imagine suburban people
repeating anything that would come out of her mouth.
And I only heard her for 30 seconds.
Yeah. And it was like down to like,
like the way she would scream. Like sometimes she'll like, talk
her words and then just randomly scream like they did.
Like even like, like Summer had said, like in the video, what
did you say? You said something, something
you were like fuck. And then they like, even were
like fuck. And I was like, are you like
trying to copy the way she said it?
It was so weird. I like snippeted, like the video
side by side and like laughed about it on TikTok and everybody
was like, oh. At this point, just use it as an
audio and then just promote the person who actually created.
Right. Or even like A tag or something.
Yeah, but it's like the same people who take stuff off of
memes, direct quotes off of viral memes, and put them as
their Facebook status. As if that bitch really was
intelligent and witty and had something to say.
We literally see so many people do that.
And then like they've promoted that digital creator on
Facebook. So then they literally take
viral posts from other platforms.
And like, I saw one today, we have a mutual friend that does
this and it had like 300 shares. So you know, she thought she was
popping her shit. But it's like girlfriend.
You know you aren't sleeping well at night when you've got to
like wake up and try to find viral posts to stay relevant.
And that's how I feel about like the people using your name
because like your your platform has went up.
Like every time I look at your platform it is like up, up, up.
And I'm like, this girl Instagram is dying and her shit
is popping on Instagram. Like you're probably one of the
most like popping Instagram pages that I see.
Like in the 1st 10 minutes you'll have like 4000 likes.
And I'm like, I love this for her because people talk about
Instagram dying, but I feel like something about your following
is just so loyal, 'cause there's even people who have a huge
following that don't get the interaction that you get.
And I feel like, how do you stay, like, grounded in all of
that? Like, how do you stay so humble,
'cause I can just tell that you're really humble.
Like, how do you, how do you do that?
Honestly, I feel like for me, I feel like part of it has to do
with just the the way that like the impact that social media and
having a following had on me just because I was such a weird
ass bitch in high school. Like not a cool kid.
Like everybody knew me, but nobody was friends with me type
of shit. Like I had my little group of
friends. And so like having social media
and seeing that people were interested in what I had to say
and people thought I was funny or people thought I was smart.
Like I took a lot of value in that.
I didn't view them as, oh these are just strangers that like me.
I was like people like me, like these are people you know, and I
was really adamant about like interacting with my followers.
And you know when I see like a a a page that's like popping up
and popping up, popping up on my shit, I'm like what's up?
And I respond to my DMS. Like I just feel like you know,
the whole, you know, be in Hollywood just because you get a
follow up count is just ridiculous.
Because there's so many influencers who, like, will get
a following count and then unfollow everybody and like not
interact with their followers, not even like, like comments
like or even respond to comments and things like that.
And it's like, I just feel like that's such like that's part of
being an influencer. Like these people are supporting
you. And the things that you do and
say and put out on social media, the least you can do is like,
say what's up? Like, yeah.
So that leaves me. Let's talk about the Palestine
movement. And I know that you had a video,
it kept popping up all over on other platforms, and I saw that
you were live one day and you're like, so my videos going viral
in the Middle East on the news or something.
So talk about that, 'cause I really sent your video.
Like when you first posted it, I sent it to like 20 people,
'cause I was like, I fucking agree with this 1000%.
I am so sick of people glamorizing war and even the US,
like we are the biggest oppressor.
I mean, I love being in the US because we have a lot of
freedom, but they are a fucking massive oppressor to other
countries, especially oil rich countries, people that have
resources, people that have control in other areas.
So what are you doing with your platform to really bring light
to that? Because I know that you've had a
lot of content about that recently, so I want to expand on
that. Yeah.
So I think what So what had happened was I had noticed I was
getting a lot of comments that were like it was, it was, I want
to say mid-october. Like I want to say it was a week
after the event that occurred on October 7th in Israel.
And everybody was like, can you please post a video about this?
Can you please post a video about this?
And I'm really careful about, especially with my political
content that's like current events.
I try to make sure that I do a lot of research and I take my
time with making sure that I'm getting my news from the correct
sources because it's like especially with like foreign
events, it's really important to not listen to anything that the
American government is telling you is happening.
And so it's like I'm trying to like pick through like Middle
Eastern news stuff that's written in Hebrew, stuff that's
in Arabic and get it translated to English.
So I can kind of understand going on Al Jazeera which is
like a big, you know, news platform on in the Middle East,
which actually they posted one of my tik toks which was super
cool. But like, I was really careful
about getting it all together 1st and how I felt about it and
reading all the insurance and outs on both sides before, you
know, figuring out how I felt about it and what I wanted to
say. Because, you know, just having
an opinion on it doesn't really do anything for me.
Like, I my my whole thing with social media, I don't just say
how I feel. I I scream at my phone about how
I feel. And I carefully choose every
word that I include in the videos.
And I feel like lately with everything that's been going on
in Palestine, my biggest thing was just that with me having
such a broad audience, like just because I'm, I'm not a mean
person. So it's like even people on the
other side of me politically, give me the time of day and hear
me out and watch my videos. Like, I have people that comment
all the time. Like, hey, I don't agree with
everything you say, but like this, you know, this was
something for thought. And so I try to make sure I
deliver it in a way where I'm still very impactful, but it
people want to watch it and listen to it.
And so lately I've been doing, you know, a lot of like videos
on information that I feel like might be useful that the
American news might not want to tell you.
And as far as forming your opinions on the genocide that's
occurring and the fact that they aren't even wanting to call it a
genocide, you know, And I just feel like it's important,
especially as somebody who is not at all Middle Eastern, that
I make sure that I'm using my platform not to speak over
anyone, but to kind of give that voice to the people who are
experiencing this right now and share their stories in the best
way that I can, obviously, without being there.
And, you know, it's been very successful.
I've reached, you know, millions of people over the past month on
my videos, and I'm really happy about that.
So. I.
Feel like a lot goes into doing that type of.
That's a very when you're talking about like getting
feedback from other people and other people not liking content
that you're doing or you getting like hateful energy and stuff,
you talking about politics, especially talking about being
in other countries. And I think that on a very small
scale, a whole bunch of what TikTok was focused on was only
problems that we were having in the US and not even problems
that actually matter a majority of the time.
It's like I'm going to. I think that's what bugs me so
much is our like news, and the things that we do hear about are
lies and small petty things here that don't actually impact
anything. And we could be, as a people
helping to, I feel like, improve things other places and putting
our energy into so many things if our news sources weren't
putting shit out just to dumb you down and distract you.
Right. And I feel like that's what a
lot of people miss is that the headlines that were given on
American news channels, they're even just, not even just
American, just Western media. It's just a lot.
It's it's polluted is what it is.
It's and it doesn't matter. You know, it could be, it could
be CNN, it could be Fox News. Like, everybody knows that
there's a divide, but it doesn't matter.
They're both liars. Like, especially when it comes
to politics and and war and death and especially in the
Middle East, like, like, let's let's talk about the
conversation with America, the Middle East.
Do you think we're going to be honest about what's going on in
the Middle East? They weren't honest last time.
So, you know, it's just really important that people read into
those kinds of things. And I feel like something that
kind of makes me sad is that there's a lot of political
influences that I follow that I see that aren't being as as
vocal as I would expect them to be.
And I feel like it's more of like a privilege thing, really.
And in the sense that, like you, you're comfortable to talk about
issues that don't belong to you because they're affecting other
Americans and people around you. So the the issue touches you
close enough to where you're like, OK, I'm going to talk
about this, but there's influencers who aren't speaking
on it because it's it's a foreign issue and it's like as
much as people want to say, oh, that doesn't affect me.
One, it does if you want to have that conversation.
But two, they're humans, you know?
And it's just it's terrifying the things that I've been
seeing. And that's why I feel like
TikTok is such a great platform. That's why it's such a threat to
the government. It's just because it's such a
big boil of information. You can, I mean, minus the
guidelines say almost everything you want.
The things that they don't want to put out, that's where they
get put out. And it's it's, I mean, I've
learned a lot from TikTok, even as somebody who teaches people
things on TikTok. I've myself learned so much from
TikTok that I would not have learned anywhere else, I don't
think. How do you stay under the radar
for Tik Tok's community guidelines?
Like, how does that affect you and your voice?
So I've kind of just, well, so my first page on TikTok, I had
almost 2,000,000 followers. And that page was banned because
I kept getting community guidelines violations because
there was a time, I think between like 2020-2021 where
they made a huge adjustment to those guidelines and I did not
understand them for the fucking life of me.
And so I just kept violating them and I was just like, what
am I doing wrong? Like, and there's still things
where I'm just like, why did that video get taken down?
But I've kind of learned how to work around them, especially
with me being an influencer that talks about things that are very
controversial. Because I mean, I I think a lot
of people know that when you talk about things that shouldn't
be talked about, that they won't always get pushed out,
especially if you're being super straightforward.
So there's sometimes times where you need to talk between the
lines or like, or you can't cuss as much.
Or when I'm putting my captions on the video so they don't
Shadow Bennett, I put a different word.
But I know you can hear the audio that I'm saying, so you
know what I'm talking about. Things like that.
Or even like I used to have like a little graveyard of bottles on
my shelf and I made a video about Palestine and they took it
down for alcohol, which is really convenient.
But those kinds of things that I try my best to work around and
I've done well at navigating it. But that's literally, I'm on
like my 7th Tiktok page, which is, you know, a big thing for me
to have now re accumulated as many followers as I have on the
one that I have right now. But it was definitely a pain in
my ass. And there's a lot of times where
with the guidelines and everything, all the restrictions
they have on what I can say and do, where I wanted to give up
Because it's so frustrating when you're like so far along and
then you just lose all that. There's no way to get it back
and you feel like you've done nothing.
Wrong. I think when they changed the
guidelines, it was like to really appease the American
government in that point, like the government knowledge is
power and spreading awareness is against what the government
wants. The government wants us all on
the hamster wheel, struggling and in survival mode.
And one thing I've really learned in the last five years
of, like, my spiritual awakening and, you know, really branching
free from a lot of those dynamics, is that they want
people my age to be convinced that we cannot do certain
things. That now I have proved that you
can do, like, pay off your people that think like, oh, I'll
have student loans forever, you're on the hamster wheel.
You're not dedicating your energy in the right direction to
believe you can do something. If they take away your belief
and your imagination and your fun of, like, this lifetime,
that's where they trap us all. And so I think it's really easy
for people to point blame or look at people like yourself
that are promoting just controversial content, but for
the right reason as like the problem or as part of the
problem. And we're doing that on to you
because one person really can change everything.
And one thing my spirit guides keep telling me is like Martin
Luther King And people that they have, like, taken away from us
will reincarnate in this lifetime.
They're like leaders are coming like, and I've really been on
this thing of like less influencers, more leaders.
And I feel like you're really in that leadership role where I
know, like, they put you in the influencer box, but you're using
your platform for more than just to sell me products and to show
me skin care routine. You know what I mean?
And I feel like you're using your platform for like, such a
versatile set of, like values. And like, you know, you can be
fun and silly and like fight someone outside the club and
then still really care about human life and like want to
support people. In that sense, I want to get
your opinion on what happened in Maui, because I know that the
government set that up to seize land.
And I just want to know your opinion.
Like what is? Honestly, that's something I'm
planning on making a video on shortly.
I've had so many ideas of like things that I've been wanting to
talk about, like Congo, Sudan. There's just so much fucked up
shit going on. But to say the least, 100% agree
with you on that. Yeah, there's, there's no doubt
in my mind that. And anybody who doesn't believe
that, that's what they want you to think, you know, and I feel
like that's with a lot of things that happen that we think for
like, oh, the government wouldn't do that.
Yes, they would. I have a girl that I interviewed
on my other podcast named Ashley that actually lived down there.
Like her childhood home was burned to the ground.
So her and her parents, like, didn't have anywhere to go.
But she runs the magazine down there and so she's had to like
get all types of information. And she was making videos saying
that what we're seeing in the US about what's happening down
there isn't actually what they're experiencing down there.
That her as a reporter, she's trying to go in and she's trying
to get interviews and talk with like the Fire Chief and and all
that. And she was having a super hard
time even being able to talk like locally there was so much
government down there and so much shit going on.
So I'll be super interested in seeing your, like, I'll watch
out for you doing that video on Maui because I have, I've heard
her just be like, there's nothing that we could get.
And that was it, like when it first happened.
Yeah, I'm definitely, I can definitely, honestly, well that
probably sometime this week, maybe within the next few days.
But it's it's something that I've been seeing a lot about,
and honestly, not on the news on social media is where I've been
hearing so much about it because it's something that I feel like
the news is kind of pushing aside, making it quiet.
And a lot of the things that I've seen on social media is
that, you know, it's not, that's not what's happening.
This is what's happening. And, you know, people saying
like they're they're not letting us do this.
They're not letting us do that. There's police everywhere, you
know? And that's the reality of a lot
of situations like that. Which is why I feel like there
needs to be things like TikTok where people can share that kind
of information. Because when it comes down to
it, who's it? Who else is going to tell us,
you know? My like, trigger in that was
when they were like, yeah, it just burned right up to Oprah
land but didn't touch her land. Like, as soon as I heard that, I
was like, oh, so Lady Gaga, Bruce Willis and Oprah and none
of their shit got touched and it was just right on the outskirts
of all of this. But the people who got touched
were the people that had oceanfront property, that have
been getting offers on it for the last 10 to 20 years for
millions and billions of dollars from developers.
And they're like, no, this is family land.
And another thing as a spiritual person, they say that like
Mother Earth, like Gaia, her heartbeat is in Maui.
Like they talk about this frequency that emits from the
land there that like when you like have those frequency meters
for like the what is it, the Schumann Resonance and things
that it's a lot different in Maui.
And they have a lot of fresh water areas and like natural
springs and like a lot of resources that come directly
from the land. And it would just make so much
sense that the government would want to develop that or to take
that, just like they did in like during like civil wars and
stuff, like they just confiscated people's land and
we're like we're. Building a road here.
Well, have you ever heard the the history of the like, like
Hawaii and like the the queen that they used to have and
everything? What happened with that
situation? I have not, I don't think.
So there used to be a queen in Hawaii before it became ours,
and her name was Queen Lily Fulani, Really beautiful
indigenous woman. And basically, you know the
fruit company Dole. Yeah.
So Sanford Dole, he needed the natural resources, needed the
natural resources of Hawaii for his fruit company.
And so he started building factories, putting in plants.
And then the queen was imprisoned.
They took her out of power. They pulled down the flag of
Hawaii and put up the American flag.
And it was the whole situation. That's how we got Hawaii, and
pretty much how the Dole Fruit Company became as big as it is
because they pretty much took over all of the natural
resources that the natives had on that land, kicked people out
of their homes, you know the stories.
And that's they didn't issue a national apology until, I think,
2007. Wow.
Yeah, so it doesn't surprise me with all of this stuff, so.
Your face, Gemini. I'm I'm like first of all I'm
never buying those fucking fruit cups again.
You can suck my whole Dick. Second of all I just like the
the the shit that you that people can like got away with
and did to other people. I've recently been watching the
so Yellowstone has these like prequel spin offs and there's
like 886 in like 1923 I think. But they're showing.
Walking the Oregon Trail, like from where was it from Tennessee
to Oregon and showing like, I don't know, the most realistic,
like Journey video that I've seen and like encountering
Native Americans and just like fucking raping people and
killing them just because you found a small village and that's
what you wanted to do. And just like, I don't know,
just watching something sometimes or having it being
directed in a way where you pay attention to it and you can see
it and like relate, empathize with it, I guess is the word and
see just, I don't know how fucked up it was that I almost
see events now in picture as I'm being told about it.
So then like seeing that play out of, like your queen being
imprisoned and how scared those people must be, because how
scared would you be if you know the person that's like in power,
whatever, you actually like them and they get imprisoned and then
what, You know, I don't know. And then you're just told
somebody else owns you. Yeah, that whole story.
Is is is a really good example of something that I feel like
American textbooks did a great job at hiding is the annexation
of Hawaii. It's it's an interesting story
and it's it is sad too because she, the Queen was like writing
letters to like United States government officials to the
White House saying like please give me Hawaii back, like
please, like and like. It's just it's just sad.
It's really sad. I think all of American history
is just fucking whitewashed. Like I went to college, I have a
bachelors degree and the shit that they teach you in college
is just like so polar opposite of what you actually need.
Like there are no real business classes.
Like even though I'm minored in business to actually start a
small business, like now that I have an LLC and own a business,
every year I get fined for something being late or like not
being sent in to the right place.
Even though they cash all the checks that I send to them, they
sure as hell don't tell you what paperwork needs to go where.
And I just feel like the system that like has been created is
really to keep people oppressed. So Kayla, what is your opinion
on past lives and people come back like it's the.
Most random. Really like.
She's all fuck the government. So anyways, about past lives.
No, it's a good question. Keep going this.
Is what I think is like sometimes people come back in a
powerful position like yourself. Like, I feel like you're in a
powerful position. You have a lot of people
listening to you. You have a lot of eyes on you.
I feel like sometimes it's like good karma and then sometimes,
like being in a spotlight can be a gift and a curse, right?
Like some people that have a huge following are like, I just
want to go to Taco Bell and fucking eat.
I don't want to talk to you. Like, you know, Eminem talked
about that. Like I can't take a shit without
someone standing by it. Like what do you what is your
opinion on past lives as far as like how governments and like
people inherit power through like family lineage.
Like, how do you believe and what do you believe about past
lives? So honestly, so agree with
everything you said. Pretty much the upbringing of
like most big countries is white supremacy.
It's what it's all built on. A good example.
Star Spangled Banner Francis Scott Key.
He was a slave owner. He wrote, he wrote the song
singing, wrote a song about the home of the free land, of the
buried, Whatever and nobody. He didn't support the freedom of
everybody, but as far as past lives, so I don't know.
It's like I feel like there's been times where I hope I'm
taking this in the right direction where I feel like I've
met some, I've met somebody like a child and I'm like, I feel
like I'm talking to an adult like you've been here and or
like or like you'll see. I saw TikTok the other day.
It was really interesting and she was talking about how like
your your Natal chart like where the planets aligned for where
when you were born, how it it explains a lot about who you are
and where you have been. And so she was saying like, she
explained like a really like shitty to her placement and she
was like, you know, yeah, they definitely probably did some
fucked up shit And this is, this is going to be your karma and I
definitely, you know, believe in the good karma, bad karma
situation. And I'm, I myself am learning to
try not to be anybody's karma because then I will get back
karma. But you know, but yeah,
definitely, definitely on the same page as that.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking like just like in general
because you have like such a huge voice, you're very
opinionated. I feel like you have been in a
past life where you are oppressed by authority figures
because I have a really inherent rebellion energy towards
authority. Like when the governments, like
millennials can't do this or you can't do that.
I'm like, I'm like the first in line trying to do that.
Like I'm like, OK, well watch me then, like, watch me own a
house, own a business, do all these things you say I can't do
by 30, you know, like watch me do it.
But the reason I ask that is because, you know, Jim and I
works. We both work with a lot of
people in shadow work and like working with people, working
through generational trauma. But we inherit generational
gifts, you know, and generational things that come
from our ancestors. And that's what, like one of my
mantras is. It's like I'm going to be the
most abundant and rebellious ancestor.
Like, for all my ancestors that had to die for me to be here
right now, Like I'm about to pop my shit so that I am like that
rambunctious ancestor that comes back about to burn it all down.
But, you know, I just feel like your energy is definitely like,
I've been oppressed. And I'm going to show you why
the fuck I chose to be a white woman here right now.
Because you're going to listen to me, OK?
You're going to hear what I'm saying.
And that's what I always tell myself.
Because, like, I know for sure that I have not always been
white or that I've not always been a woman.
That I have been, you know, just different ethnicities and like,
you know, a man or whatever. And it's just crazy to me
because so many people just believe they come here and
that's it. Like they're just here and then
we're going to heaven and that's it.
And I'm like, like there's something more.
There has to be. More no.
Yeah. I I believe in reincarnation.
So I've always, you know been really big on like like so when
I don't know if you help like how long you've been following
along. But I I don't talk about it
much, but I I had a miscarriage a few years ago and there was a
time where I had decided to plant these purple pansies for
my son. And I was sitting and I don't, I
don't pray because I've never. I fell out of religion a while
ago, was raised Roman Catholic, if that says anything.
But I sat there and I was talking to the flowers as if,
like it was my son. And out of nowhere this little
purple butterfly comes and lands on the flowers while I was
talking to him. And I was like, OK, OK, I hear
you. Whatever you, whatever you're
doing, I see it. Oh.
That made me so happy. 1st I was sad because we were talking
about the miscarriage, but then I was like, you got a purple
butterfly. Yes, I actually I got a tattoo
for it too. I don't.
You can't really tell that the butterflies are purple, but it
looks beautiful. I have a purple butterfly with
blue right here. Oh, that's cute.
I have a blue one right here. I love butterflies and honestly,
I, like, have such a deep connection to, like, Earth in
general that like, I literally be putting like, spells out
there. Like that land will not sell,
'cause it'll be like just full of trees and it'll say for sale.
And I'm like, Nope, you're not going to sell it like you're the
housing market's going to crash. You're not selling it like.
I'm. Like, I'm only OK if it doesn't
have a lot of trees. If it has a lot of trees you
cannot sell that land, 'cause I I get so triggered by them
tearing down trees that I know that like, I have this deep
connection to Earth and I'm just like, I think that's where, like
the Maui thing really upset me a lot and that's why I wanted your
opinion on it. Our podcast is always all over
the place and I knew that you would bring a lot to the table,
Jim and I. Do you have a question for her?
No, I'm just sitting here vibing.
My gummy kicked in and I'm just like, I'm in love with the
conversation and the vibes and you know.
Yay. I want to talk about like, what
hobbies do you have that are outside of social media?
Like what do you do for fun? Like, who are you without your
platform? Like what With you know, you
show the world a lot, but like, what do you do for fun?
How do you relax? Smoke.
That's how I relax. Yeah, that's like, but that's
not even really like, I don't know.
That's just part of my daily routine.
But I like to read. I mean that's it's where I get a
lot of my knowledge from my I love books and I watch a lot of
shows. I love watching shows.
I get addicted to a new show, like once a week, and I'll binge
watch and binge watch until summer's like, Oh my God, I
can't watch another episode. We got to turn it off.
I'm like, yeah, but yeah, I really, I just kind of chill.
I mean, weekends are fun for me. I'm a party promoter so I get
pretty late on the weekends, but other than that I'm pretty much
just chill and smoke and watch TV.
And every once in a while I get on my phone and I scream at it
and get a lot of lights, and then I go back to smoking and
watch TV. Do you do anything creative?
Because I feel like you have such a creative aura.
Like I just feel like you have some type of creation.
That like, I like to paint and draw.
I'm just, I'm getting better with the painting.
That's something that I've just like started getting back into.
But I've always been really good at drawing, but I don't really
show that on social media. I just feel like you have such a
like passionate energy that whatever you put it towards
probably would be really successful.
And also the thing I like about what you said earlier is like
you don't have a niche, but you are just passionate about
whatever you're speaking on. And I think a lot of people get,
like, the viral content because they want to go viral.
Like they want to be in the spotlight, but it's not for the
right reason. And I think that's why I really
was just so excited to get you onto the podcast.
And I knew that our messages were getting lost.
You were like, I can't find the message.
And I knew that cause like, every time I go into your lab,
people are like, Kayla, open your message, Kayla, I wrote you
20 times, like, and you're like, literally just trying to live
your life. And people are like, I sent you
45 messages. Open them.
I'm sure they're probably like where my brand or what can you
do for me? Can you promote me?
And I and I've seen you before like you want me to promote you?
Pay me. That's fine.
Pay me though. Facts.
So what are your goals for 2024?
Like what do you have coming up? What can we expect to see from
Kayla Jayden? Honestly, So something that I'm
working on right now kind of behind the scenes, no big
details to it yet, is I'm planning a mission trip over to
the Middle East once the floor is safe for people to be coming
in and do like on the ground humanitarian aid in Gaza and the
West Bank. That's something that I'm
planning on doing within the next year or two.
So that's something that I'm excited for.
I love that. So at the end of every episode,
Gemini pulls a card for our guest.
So if OK with you, it's a my human design card.
We end every episode with one. So for everyone listening at
home, you'll be able to follow Caleb.
We'll put all of her details and everything about her in the
description. You can watch the video on
Patreon, either mine or Gemini's.
You can watch it early on, Patreon only.
And yeah, so she'll pull your card for you.
Your card straight jumped out of the fucking deck.
OK, you got card 20 for Surrender this pink Cadillac.
It's a caddy. It's a caddy, Danny, so I would
say to also look up the Angel #20 after the podcast too, to
see what that like messages, what's coming up and see if it
resonates for you. We're huge.
I literally just opened the book and it opened right to it.
We're huge believers in everything having like a purpose
and a reason why it's showing itself in your reality.
And that's why people get excited when they see like 1111
or whatever because numbers and symbols hold their own
vibration. I feel like that come to you at
times that you need it. So with this deck it points out
a gift that you have and then also with the shadow inside of
that is so a strength that you have that maybe you need to be
reminded about or that you don't even realize that you have and
then and pointing that out for you and then the shadow side on
that. So what may be like a little bit
tricky or difficult with having that?
So the sign is Gemini. What up?
The gift is self assurance, and your shadow is superficiality,
the gift of self assurance. When you allow life and its
answers to move elegantly through you, the shackles of
forcefulness and unrelenting determination fall away.
You realize that the large framework of oneness supports
you, and you connect more fully with divine timing and your
inner knowing. You are right on time, and
answers flow to you when the opportunity strikes.
Your harmony with the present moment and its many offerings
assures a sense of ease and confidence, and your shadow is
superficiality. The shadow and the gift are
distinguished by the energy and intention of your actions.
The lower frequencies bring about busyness for the sake of
doing and occupying time, rather than from a place of presence
and expansion. Superficiality within this mode
of existence means identifying completely with the mind, time,
and a surface level understanding of this life.
You may be everywhere and nowhere at all.
Your themes are allowing receiving timing and intention.
I like that. You know what I really like
about your energy is so inviting, but it's also like
don't fuck with me. And I feel like it's a mutual
understanding, like Gemini's the don't.
And I'm very inviting and I feel like like putting us together.
You give both of those vibes and it's just it's so energetically
like, like encompassing, like you just kind of suck people in,
whether you're just like rolling a blunt and chilling or if
you're like screaming at your phone about something really
important. And we're just so grateful to
have you on here. Like, thank you for just taking
time out of your day. Is there a message that you want
to leave everyone with? Honestly, I don't even know what
direction to go in with a message, but I guess I'll just
say I appreciate everybody who's been following me along as they
as long as they have because it's it's been a long ass pro.
Some of y'all been watching me since high school and now I'm an
adult and doing adult things and y'all are still supporting me.
So I appreciate y'all so, so much for that and also be your
most authentic self. I love all of y'all and you
know, keep pushing through. Next year's coming up, New Year,
maybe the same bullshit, but you can do it some.
That's what I've got. Thank you, Kayla.
Thank you we. Will see you all next time in
Candy Land. Bye.