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He says she's so sweet, man. 
Come on and let the rapper me 

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like a lollipop lollipop, 
lollipop, lollipop, lollipop, 

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lollipop, lollipop, lollipop. 
What's up everybody? 

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Welcome back to Candy Land with 
Rampage and myself. 

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We are really loving you guys 
sending us in questions and 

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different topics that you want 
us to discuss. 

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And this week there were a lot 
about parenting and kids and 

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just different questions. 
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off with talking with you. 
What role do you think 

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spirituality and personal 
beliefs play and how people cope

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with pregnancy loss? 
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shape the healing process? 
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everything happens for a 
mysterious reason. 

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I think that people use that 
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very sensitive. 
I think women have so much 

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societal pressure on them to be 
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be a good mom, to provide for 
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So I do think that society's 
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teenagers is very centered 
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Like when you're a baby, you get
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know what I mean? 
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young child, I always saw myself
being a mom by now and then, you

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know, I just really don't know 
where I'm at with that right 

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now. 
Like, I don't know where I'm at 

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with it, mainly because I 
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happen for a reason and when 
things don't go the way that you

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want them to go, that there is 
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things. 
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people's spiritual beliefs are 
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they're going to deal with a 
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I also want to touch on people 
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you know, like there's a huge 
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birth to a sleeping baby. 
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was very centered in my life, 
like you've got to be a mom. 

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And then now as an adult, I'm 
not sure where I'm at with that.

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Yeah, I mean, that makes sense 
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And you know, you we've talked 
before about how you have a very

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your life and how you picture 
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with battling like what is 
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that's in her 30s versus like, 
where are you on this journey 

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right now? 
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fits into your life and, and how
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I think that my feelings have 
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a miscarriage and you know, you 
never really think that you're 

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going to get pregnant. 
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really think that you're going 
to lose the baby. 

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quickly. 
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off a celibacy and literally got
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And I just never thought that I 
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Like that wasn't even in my 
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Like, I'm over here Googling 
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dilated or like babies born by 
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miscarriage. 
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deep stigma around women and 
what happens with our body. 

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And I know that's a hot topic 
right now, but, you know, my 

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opinion is probably a lot 
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was growing up in a two person 
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You know, like I saw my mom 
struggle and be a single mom and

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I also saw that same timeline 
flash before my eyes because the

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person that I was with at the 
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It was more of just like a, you 
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will. 
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said, I never dreamed that that 
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same stretch of time. 
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so sorry about like what you 
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through them. 
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saw the way that that person was
showing up for you when you were

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pregnant and like the things 
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And I saw so many, I saw you put
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and like make all of these plans
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completely independent about it.
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other person, you had to be 
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And I hope that when it happens 
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experience like having support 
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I've never experienced that. 
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like everybody should, I feel 
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for people in their life that 
like when you do, you have like 

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a healthy partner to go in that 
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envision in like your road map 
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for your life to look like. 
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manifest for you is, you know, 
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experiencing that, but being 
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in that because you really like 
you had friends during that, but

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you really went through that by 
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really fucking strong. 
And I see you, you went through 

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so many things. 
You kept it together doing the 

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podcast stuff. 
You kept your business going. 

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You, you know, you were still 
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it's a huge thing on your body, 
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And you know, you still being a 
healer and doing work for other 

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people and stuff, that was a 
huge moment of strength for you.

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you, I just want you to know 
that that scene and and 

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validated. 
I really, really appreciate 

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that. 
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time you all like I knew I was 
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I just knew it. 
I could feel it. 

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I started like Googling when I 
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it would show up and like keep 
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it was just 4th of July. 
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July. 
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You know what nothing like oh, 
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we're going to date. 
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we've dated before. 
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We're going to have a good time 
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And then like 3 weeks went by 
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please don't be pregnant. 
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this. 
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right now. 
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about it is like I knew that 
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someone that I would want to 
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It was just someone that I have 
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Like we dated when we were in 
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And I've said this before and 
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When you date someone when you 
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your life, like middle school to
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chemistry just changes for that 
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Like they could be the worst 
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is like seeing them at 12 years 
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You're like 14 years old. 
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had such a strong history that 
now I see that this happened 

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because he was like a revolving 
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Like a glass door. 
It just spins and it opens at 

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the same point every time. 
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right? 
Like it's never giving you need.

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I feel like, I feel like that is
I feel like it's sad that that's

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like the experience that you had
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feel like there can also be like
so much comfort and growth 

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inside of like knowing somebody 
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own like life and experiences 
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on the same path. 
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had hoped was happening for you.
I had hoped that the growing 

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that you guys had done 
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to each other. 
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was going to end up being like, 
wow, this person's really grown 

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and whatever. 
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know, we do believe in, you 
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happening for a reason and 
having people in our spaces for 

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a reason and, and meeting people
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have had because that would have
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Yeah, it really felt super 
faded, which is why I wanted to 

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express that. 
Just because something feels 

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aligned and you're excited about
it and it feels like fate does 

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not mean that it is. 
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is can I surrender into this 
moment and let it unfold however

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it's supposed to unfold? 
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biggest test because this person
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Like the person that would show 
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window out or is not just going 
to let you ghost me after a 

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miscarriage. 
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out to this person and told them
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be the end of the conversation. 
But no, this person was like, I 

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want to be there. 
I want to be a dad, I want to go

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to the doctor. 
I want to be with you. 

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So, like, they fed on me all 
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And what really hurt the most is
I went to the appointment to, 

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you know, figure out if I had a 
miscarriage, which I knew I felt

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that I had because, you know, 
once you started bleeding and 

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you're not supposed to be 
bleeding, like I knew something 

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was wrong. 
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just could tell that his energy 
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It was just like, he didn't even
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He wasn't even trying to like 
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He was like, I'm at work. 
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We'll talk later. 
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of the last words that this 
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And I feel like, you know, I've 
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like friends from high school 
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us when we dated each other. 
And she was really real when she

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said it probably would have hurt
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random person that you hooked up
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you would have been more hopeful
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occurred. 
But instead, you and this person

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have deep, deep feelings and 
deep, deep energy and a 

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connection. 
And she said, and I can't 

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imagine how that makes you feel 
knowing now who the person is 

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because I told her who it was. 
And honestly, this person isn't 

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a good person. 
They have nothing to for me, 

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they're they're just really not 
a good person. 

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But I have a soft spot for them 
because I see who they used to 

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be before life, you know, chewed
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And that's my fault. 
Like that's my fault. 

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Allowing people into my world 
when they're really not at the 

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level that I need them to be at,
just because of that history. 

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I don't think that it's a fault.
I think that you see people's 

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potential and good in them and 
you support that and you've seen

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a version of them that is 
somebody that like you love and 

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respect and appreciate. 
And so when you come back into 

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contact with them again, you're 
like, damn, like, you know, you 

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give it a chance for them to 
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It's different. 
Like it, it's different when 

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you're an adult and you have, 
you know, responsibilities in 

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these different things and that 
person isn't at the maturity 

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level that you are or has the 
same values and needs and, and 

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things that you're wanting. 
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getting fucking, not only did 
you get left to go to the doctor

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by yourself, you fucking got 
ghosted. 

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You went through like when we're
saying you went through that 

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entire thing by yourself, It was
a no call, no text, no fucking. 

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It went from I'm fucking balls 
in in this to you can't get a 

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hold of me and I have 
disappeared. 

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And that is like so shitty that 
you went through that. 

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Yeah, like the person literally,
like when I was pregnant was 

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just like right there, glued up 
my ass. 

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But it was like the moment that 
the miscarriage occurred, he 

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just was like, I'm out. 
And what was weird about it is I

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personally really didn't see it 
coming at all. 

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And this person is really, he's 
like a fear based person. 

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Like he very much thinks that we
are going through a civil war. 

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He very much thinks that he 
needs to learn how to fight a 

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bear. 
Like he very much thinks that he

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doesn't need to save money or 
pay taxes or do any of those 

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things because it's not going to
matter. 

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He's very much someone who would
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2012 and then nothing happened. 
Like he's not in reality. 

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And he prides himself on being 
aside from society, like he 

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prides himself on working under 
the table or not having a real 

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tax paying job or like whatever 
it is. 

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And like I said, I wasn't 
sitting down trying to date this

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dude or marry this dude. 
You know, we have a sentimental 

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connection where I can be like 
weird and silly with him and 

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like be myself without 
judgement, fear or like, you 

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know, it was supposed. 
To be a booty call. 

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It wasn't supposed to be a 
relationship. 

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Yes, so at the same time he 
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then when he acted all in going 
to the doctor, he had a whole 

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list of baby names that he was 
sending to me like that shit 

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fucks with my head, you know 
like I know he is an avoidant 

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attachment style person. 
So this was very on brand for 

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him, but I just never expected 
him to be there when the baby 

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was there and then when the baby
was gone to not be there. 

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I almost expected it to be 
opposite, you know what I mean? 

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Like not there when the baby was
coming, but then like after the 

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baby wasn't coming. 
I don't know. 

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But he's one of those people 
that he gets into his fear 

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mongering and into his 
negativity, and he probably sees

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this as a punishment because he 
doesn't deserve it. 

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And he also said that, you know,
that I am so much better than 

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him and that he felt bad that I 
was going to be chained to a 

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loser for 18 years. 
So honestly, I think he's doing 

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me a favor because I am very 
forgiving and I am very 

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compassionate and sensitive. 
And I do very much make excuses 

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for people that I love. 
And that's why I do have to be 

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careful about people that I let 
close to me. 

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But this is like, you know, I 
only have two exes that I ever 

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really cared about and both of 
them have gotten cycled and 

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rotated out this past year. 
So I'm like a free agent. 

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Like I don't did a cord cutting.
And I'm a free agent. 

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I don't feel like a whole 
another level. 

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But you know, what's weird about
grief is I didn't want to be a 

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mom. 
I wasn't ready for that. 

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Like I was like, oh, I'm not 
going to give up my sports car. 

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Oh, I'm not moving. 
Oh, I don't want this. 

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Oh, I don't want to do that. 
Oh, we're not gonna have a 

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nursery or a baby room. 
Like, no, the baby will just 

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have a bassinet. 
Like, I was very much trying to,

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like, plug and play the baby and
not really like, OK, I'm gonna 

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nest and, like, be ready and 
give up one of my two free 

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bedrooms for this child. 
I was like, oh, no, they don't 

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need that. 
Like they don't. 

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Need yeah, but that's you. 
Those things come I feel like 

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either really late into your 
pregnancy or after the baby's 

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already come. 
Like I didn't, I didn't even 

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have those things like when I 
was pregnant with Mac, like it 

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was months and months after I 
had Mac before. 

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I felt like, oh fuck, I'm a 
parent now. 

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And like I have to do these 
things. 

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And you know, that's why you 
would have somebody else there 

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who like, you know, that's why 
you have a partner. 

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So that ideally there's somebody
else who's like, oh shit, you're

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going through all these fucking 
crazy hormone changes and all 

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these other things. 
This is the way to like step up 

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and support you, you know. 
Yes. 

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That would be an ideal world. 
I will say that I wanted nothing

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to do with him, like long term, 
but then once my hormones like, 

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because they say that when 
you're pregnant by someone that 

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like their DNA changes your DNA 
and like your DNA is hiding and 

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it's changing my DNA. 
And something about it was like 

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convincing me this was going to 
work and that it was going to be

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great. 
So I don't know if that was 

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delusion or what, but it really 
felt like the universe was like,

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you need to close this door with
this person. 

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You're not going to do it on 
your own. 

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Let's make you all think. 
It's very faded. 

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It's very just like divine 
timing, like you've been brought

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together because we conceived on
a full moon, the Cancer full 

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moon. 
Just some weird shit. 

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Like just weird ass shit like 
that. 

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No, it wasn't the Cancer full 
moon. 

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It was Cancer season and the 
full moon. 

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But moral of that story is like,
I do think that the universe was

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teaching me a huge lesson about 
allowing people from the past to

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taint my progress. 
And that would be how you go 

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going back to that question that
would be a part of like yours 

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hoping through it, through your 
spirituality or whatnot is 

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finding out like what was the 
blessing and lesson in it? 

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And like, what were you supposed
to learn and how do you move 

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forward with that? 
There are a lot of people who 

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can't analyze things like that. 
They can't what you're doing 

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where you're able to look at it 
and go, this wasn't the best for

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me, ABC and D, this was the 
lesson. 

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This was whatever. 
So many people can't do that. 

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And that's where like they get 
really stuck in their head and 

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like the mental how stuff starts
to come out and it's, it's 

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easier for somebody to go 
through something like that and 

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make it a reason why they can't 
function and do the things that 

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they need to do as opposed to 
turning around and going, well, 

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I still got shit. 
I have to go fuck up. 

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So like, I'm going to cry about 
it and give myself 48 hours and 

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then I'm going to put my fucking
boots on and keep it pushing. 

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Yeah, I, like, listen to a lot 
of podcasts about like, how to 

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cope with a miscarriage and how 
to, like, handle that. 

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And, you know, honestly, I think
hearing a lot of women talk 

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about, like, the shame that they
felt like towards their body. 

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But for me, I really didn't feel
shame. 

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I felt relieved, which made me 
feel guilty that I felt relieved

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that it was the way that it was 
unfolding that way. 

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But I wonder if I'll ever post 
it. 

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But like when I got out of the 
doctor that day, I made a video 

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of me just hysterical, which I 
never ever record myself crying.

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And I'm just like talking to my 
phone about the situation and 

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it's like super emotional. 
I've never went back and 

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listened to it. 
I don't know what it says, but I

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thought to myself, like, will I 
ever share that moment with 

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anyone? 
Like, I don't know, I think, you

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know, I'm an only child. 
My mom's an only child. 

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My grandmother's an only child. 
Like, you know, I don't have 

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like, a lot of people to lean 
on. 

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But, you know, I do think that 
the biggest blessing was 

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removing that person from my 
life. 

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Because if you don't have the 
courtesy to say hey. 

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I know I don't know what you're 
going through. 

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I'm sorry I can't really be 
there for you. 

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I'm trying to deal with it on my
own, you know, just something. 

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But to say we'll talk about it 
and then to just never talk 

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about it. 
Seven months go by like you kind

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of got me fucked up. 
He didn't talk to you for seven 

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months. 
He still never talked to me. 

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We have never talked. 
The last thing he said to me is 

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we will talk about this when I 
get home, babe, that's. 

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I would throw eggs at his 
fucking house and slash, that's 

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what. 
I'm saying like, that's how I 

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know I've grown because I bet he
watched over his shoulder for at

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least three months after that, 
like at his. 

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Buck Page. 
But then again, he's not a good 

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person. 
He's not someone I would have 

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wanted to invoke a child. 
You know, I look back at it and 

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I was very much delusioned in 
thinking that a baby would fix 

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things. 
Like, oh, I'll just have a baby.

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Like I don't need a man. 
Like I've always thought that in

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my head, like, I'm independent, 
I don't need you. 

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But then when it's happening, I 
see how much a woman really does

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need a true partner that's going
to support and like, be there 

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for you, not someone who's just 
going to sleep through the night

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and make you deal with 
everything. 

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Especially because women don't 
think about postpartum recovery.

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Like if you do have to have AC 
section if there is 

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complications, you know, So I'm 
very much a very positive 

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person, but those pregnancy 
hormones put me straight into 

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fear. 
And now I see why mothers live 

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in fear. 
And now I'm like, I just don't 

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know if I want to be a mother. 
Like, I don't know if I want my 

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heart walking around outside of 
my body and be worried all the 

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time because that just isn't 
working. 

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Like the moment I started 
feeling that I was like hell to 

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the gnaw. 
This sucks because all of a 

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sudden I'm worried about my 
vagina dilating to a waffle. 

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I'm worried about what's going 
to happen. 

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You know I had the worst fucking
racist ass doctor. 

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Like he's always been my OBGYN 
but we go to the doctor that 

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first day. 
I'm like 3 days pregnant at this

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point, like 1/2 a day pregnant 
and he's like that tattoo on 

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your stomach if you have to have
AC section, we're cutting 

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through that. 
I'm sorry Sir, I just got into 

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your office. 
I just came in for the first 

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time. 
What the fuck do you what are 

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you talking about? 
Like that's what I understand 

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about the healthcare place as 
they tell you all shit so that 

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your brain dwells on it and 
manifest it and that's what 

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bothered me. 
So there were certain things 

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that like I refused to do when I
was pregnant with Mac because I 

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felt like it was like a lot of 
fear based shit being pushed. 

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One of them was like the 
diabetes glucose test thing. 

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And I know that I get sick every
time I drink fucking or eat a 

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bunch of really sugary stuff and
I refused. 

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I knew I wasn't diabetic. 
I wasn't having any fucking 

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symptoms. 
What I was not going to do was 

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sit in there, fucking drink this
drink and then be waiting for 

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somebody to tell me good news, 
bad news. 

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I also didn't do, they do like 
genetic testing for you to 

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figure out if like your baby's 
going to have Down syndrome or 

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something like that. 
I refused to do that test. 

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I didn't want any fucking part 
of that test because I knew that

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I, I wasn't going to do anything
about it. 

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I wasn't going to not have my 
kid or anything. 

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So I just decided there was no 
fucking point in taking that 

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test because whatever the 
outcome was, was going to be the

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fucking outcome. 
Yeah, I mean, this goes back 

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into like, knowing who you're 
going to have a kid with. 

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Because when we were in there 
and they were like, do you want 

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that test? 
He was like, yeah, we're getting

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that test. 
And like, literally would not 

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let it go. 
And he was like, Are you sure? 

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Because if you find something's 
wrong with your baby, like your 

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only option is to abort it or to
know that you're having a baby 

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with Down syndrome. 
And this person that I was with 

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was like Oh yeah we would abort 
it. 

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No we wouldn't have. 
That's what I'm saying. 

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But you really need to know who 
the fuck you all are hooking up 

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with on Tinder or at from the 
mall or from work or wherever 

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because I'm telling you these 
mother fuckers ain't shit. 

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Like just let me just get down 
the list of why people ain't 

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shit. 
This man had the audacity to be 

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like your boobs are so nice. 
I hope the baby doesn't fuck 

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them up. 
So in the days I was pregnant 

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between you and this fucking 
white man doctor, that's the 

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shit y'all are saying to me. 
Like it makes me enraged. 

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Like I have female rage in a way
that I had never had before, 

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ever. 
Yeah, I still support you 

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sloshing his tires, but I'm 
toxic so don't follow my advice.

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Honestly, I feel like it's so 
funny because the couple months 

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that we were dating and that we 
were talking, my like business 

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was just like stagnant. 
But the very moment that I had 

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the miscarriage and dropped his 
ass, I'm talking you that very 

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next month, I made more money in
my business and I had made all 

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year long combined. 
I mean yes, the queen did re 

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share my interview on her 
Spotify and platforms, but 

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still, I know the universe was 
working in my favor because the 

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moment I dropped his ass, the 
moment I did a cord cutting 

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spirit was like, here's $7000 if
if you need it, here's 

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everything you need. 
And then it's crazy because like

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when I look back on that, like I
was literally about to take on a

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child and a bum all it was. 
And a bum. 

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Oh my God, I feel like you 
talked to me, you know, when you

444
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,440
guys had reconnected or 
whatever, you found out that you

445
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,800
were pregnant and so he was 
hanging around and you were very

446
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,200
open about like this was a booty
call. 

447
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,680
Now I'm pregnant now I'm trying 
to like figure this out or 

448
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,280
whatever. 
And I feel like the things that 

449
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,480
you were being told were all the
right things. 

450
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,560
The there wasn't time for there 
to be any action behind things. 

451
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,720
So I do feel like you're being a
bit hard on yourself in certain 

452
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,320
ways about like, you know, you 
should have known better and you

453
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,360
need to like have boundaries up 
with this type of energy and you

454
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,520
take care of people and you're a
good person. 

455
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,040
I feel like there wasn't enough 
time between you finding out 

456
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,800
that you were pregnant and you 
thinking about the ways for you 

457
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,040
to step up and then this person 
being able to catch up. 

458
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,920
Like he you have all of the your
business and all of these things

459
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,600
established for yourself. 
And that person didn't have any 

460
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,760
of that beforehand kind of got 
thrown into the position of 

461
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080
having to figure it out. 
And you know, that's where like 

462
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,760
when you have moments like that,
that's where somebody those are 

463
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760
tower moments. 
We talk about those in tarot. 

464
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Like that's the opportunity for 
somebody to either step the fuck

465
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,360
up and be like, wow, like my 
whole life is changing. 

466
00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:00,200
I need to really get this in 
gear and step up in their life 

467
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080
or do what he did and be like, 
yeah, I'm going to step up, but 

468
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,960
this is too fucking much and oh 
good, I have an out because you 

469
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,320
lost the baby. 
Let me go and fuck off and never

470
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,920
answer your text messages or 
your phone calls ever again. 

471
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,640
And I don't feel like that is 
all a lesson for you. 

472
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,920
I feel like there's a lot of 
lesson in that that was for him.

473
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,560
And that's something that like 
on his spirit and in his 

474
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,160
conscience and whatever he has 
to live with the fact that like 

475
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,400
you grew up together and you 
have all of this history 

476
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,920
together and he fucking 
abandoned you at a time when you

477
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,440
were like needing him. 
And that isn't, that's not all 

478
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,600
your fucking lesson. 
That's his lesson, too. 

479
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,960
Yeah, I think also I just feel 
like I should know better 

480
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,360
because I'm the one that has 
actively spent a lot of time on 

481
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,680
self actualization and healing 
and reflection and things like. 

482
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,880
That part of your healing? 
Journey yeah now that I look 

483
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,920
back at it though, I think the 
real test was not turning into 

484
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,360
the person that I used to be and
not busting the windows out of 

485
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:12,480
his house cuz that's literally 
was like when my hormones were 

486
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,360
raging because it says that 
after you have a miscarriage, it

487
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,840
could take three to six months 
for your hormones to completely 

488
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,800
regulate back out to normal. 
So I've just like kind of 

489
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,200
reached that point not too long 
ago and I am really glad that I 

490
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,840
did not act on the rage even 
though I'm still raged even 

491
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,840
though every day I'm like fuck 
him fuck you kind of thing. 

492
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,320
I still don't wish him bad. 
I still like I hope the mother 

493
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680
fucker goes to therapy and gets 
help because that's really what 

494
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,920
he needs. 
And you know, his mom was a 

495
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,360
crackhead. 
She overdosed and died or a pee.

496
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,360
His dad's a fucking idiot and 
never been in his life and he 

497
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,280
was raised by his grandparents 
and his grandma has babied him 

498
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,760
and allowed him to stay like on 
the family phone bill or 

499
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,240
whatever it may be and like all 
the things. 

500
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,320
So it's a part of his journey to
understand that he had an 

501
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,240
opportunity, like you said, to 
level up with or without a baby 

502
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,000
in the picture, and he chose not
to. 

503
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:18,840
So yeah, I think that I, I know 
'cause I am the best thing 

504
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,800
that's ever happened to a lot of
people. 

505
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,440
And I will that with pride. 
I'm sure he thinks about it. 

506
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,000
I mean, what else does he have 
to think about? 

507
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:37,440
Yeah, I, I don't know when it's 
going to come into play that 

508
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,400
like, he has to reflect on that 
and think about that. 

509
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,200
Because you would think that if 
that was the case and that he 

510
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,880
was thinking about it now and 
wanting to use it as like an 

511
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,200
option for him to elevate and 
grow, that he would reach out to

512
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,240
you. 
But maybe he has realized that 

513
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,520
maybe the best thing in the 
situation is for him to just 

514
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,000
like, continue fucking off 
because it's been this long. 

515
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,640
I I mean, after seven months of 
that, would you even want to 

516
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,000
hear anything? 
I would never. 

517
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,360
I would just I would never want 
to hear anything again in my 

518
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,840
entire life. 
I'd be like, that was your 

519
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,280
opportunity and your chance. 
Fucking every single month makes

520
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,160
me more enraged is how I would. 
Feel. 

521
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,040
Yeah. 
I mean, I feel like I never 

522
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,680
dreamed that it would be seven 
months later and still no 

523
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,920
closure. 
And I think that's why I, like, 

524
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,920
I'm finally ready to talk about 
it. 

525
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,600
And like, it was so embarrassing
to tell people who know both of 

526
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,280
us who it was. 
And that's a problem. 

527
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,040
Like, and another thing like 
this person said to me was, 

528
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,920
yeah, if only your followers or 
your podcast listeners knew who 

529
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,640
you really were. 
And it really brought back like 

530
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,120
a like a trigger from another 
client who is being blackmailed 

531
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840
by an ex. 
So it's like I don't like that, 

532
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,560
like just even that processing 
in your brain like that you have

533
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,080
some dirt on me or like some 
history that people wouldn't 

534
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,000
like. 
Like I've told people who the 

535
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,960
fuck I was. 
But when I look back at it, like

536
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,560
me and this person when I was 
the most destructive version of 

537
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,240
myself at like 19, that's when 
we were together, like full 

538
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,760
blown together. 
Like me and this person have 

539
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,880
done the dumbest shit. 
Like I'm going to just tell you 

540
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,200
all something so he could never 
use this against me. 

541
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,160
We, we used to do pills, OK, 
pills were cool, Xanax tabs, 

542
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,640
like whatever. 
We created a system where we 

543
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,400
would write fake scripts and 
they looked really look legit 

544
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
and we would just tell people 
that we didn't have the money to

545
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,560
get them filled. 
This is so fucked up. 

546
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,600
So we would be like, I have 100 
Xanax bars at Walgreens, but I 

547
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,040
don't have the $82 to get them 
filled. 

548
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,760
And the person would give us the
$82 and we would get like 10 

549
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,880
people to do that and then we 
would have $820. 

550
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,040
No one has 100 Xanax bars 
prescribed to them, but they 

551
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
would think that we were going 
to give them like half of the 

552
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,040
script for paying for it. 
So that's what he thought he was

553
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,800
going to use against me. 
So I'm just going to let you all

554
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,240
know, I was kind of like a low 
key finessing. 

555
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,280
I wasn't really a crackhead. 
I was just more like, I, I just 

556
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560
finessed people. 
I just finessed people. 

557
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,600
You all. 
OK, but for somebody to I, I 

558
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,800
just think it's comical because 
I've also been told like if 

559
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,200
people knew who you were and I'm
like, I, I literally talk about 

560
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,560
who the fuck I am, my thoughts, 
opinions and things that I've 

561
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,600
been through and I get fucking 
paid to do it. 

562
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,920
So you who nobody knows, are 
welcome to go out and say 

563
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,320
whatever the fuck you would like
to. 

564
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,640
But like Google me, bitch. 
I have seasons under me. 

565
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Like you know what I mean? 
So you've been very open about 

566
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,520
the addiction that you've gone 
through and and different shit. 

567
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:45,880
And for somebody, I think that 
it is such a low and I want to 

568
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
say immature, but that doesn't 
even like scratch the fucking 

569
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,160
surface for somebody to ever 
weaponize and use your past and 

570
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,280
an old versions of you against 
you. 

571
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,680
I think it is fucking gross. 
You've put in so much work and 

572
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,400
so much energy to become a 
different version of yourself 

573
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,520
that who you are right now and 
how you're showing up and the 

574
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,160
person that you are and that you
want to be should be what people

575
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,080
are focusing on. 
And I feel that way for 

576
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,160
everybody. 
Everybody has a fucking past. 

577
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320
I've been fucking. 
I used to be a fucking 

578
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,840
manipulative little bitch. 
Like I, I understand all of 

579
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920
these things. 
We all have been versions of 

580
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,280
ourselves that we are not happy 
about. 

581
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,720
We've learned, hopefully we've 
learned from them and we're in 

582
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,800
different positions now and have
goals to be improving and be 

583
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,960
doing better. 
And who you are in the moment 

584
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,440
and how you're fucking showing 
up and what you're doing and 

585
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240
putting energy into should be 
what's being focused on. 

586
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,240
And I think that it's bullshit 
that somebody who has had a like

587
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,960
romantic past with you, 
especially, and there's been 

588
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,600
that connection there that they 
would want to bring out a 

589
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,720
version of you from 19 that was 
addicted and trying to like get 

590
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,040
money from people and, and do 
different things. 

591
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,280
And, and going through that, 
everybody's a fucking asshole at

592
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,679
19 years old. 
Like every single person is 

593
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:11,920
going through something at 19 
years old. 

594
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,320
And that version should never 
fucking be brought up to be. 

595
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,320
What's the point of that, by the
way? 

596
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,199
Like what would be the point of 
I'm going to tell everybody 

597
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,880
about you, what's that going to 
do? 

598
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,920
Is it so that it shuts down your
business so that like you, you 

599
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,719
struggle like that? 
That part to me, I'm like, 

600
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,400
where's the fucking logic? 
And you using your energy to try

601
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,239
and convince people about 
something. 

602
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,760
And I always believe that if you
have to fucking recruit people 

603
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,000
to not like me, I'm, I'm doing 
fine. 

604
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,920
And honestly, that's what didn't
even make sense because it's 

605
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,480
like, I'm trying to be with you.
We have a kid on the way. 

606
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,199
Why would you even say some shit
like that? 

607
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,400
Like it was almost. 
While you were pregnant. 

608
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,080
Yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

609
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,160
Like he just. 
Kind of pulsed it around, like 

610
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,280
if if only people really knew 
who you were or like whatever. 

611
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,160
But I've been very vocal that I 
have done every street drug that

612
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,160
you could think. 
Every single one of them, you 

613
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,800
can name them off the list. 
I've done them all except 

614
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,880
fentanyl because that came out 
after I got sober. 

615
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,400
But other than that, like 
heroin, your girl's done it. 

616
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,520
I've never used needles, but 
I've done heroin and people 

617
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,200
don't even think that about me. 
And that's fine. 

618
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,520
I'm not trying to pretend to be 
something I'm not. 

619
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,400
Like when Bunny said her friend 
had a gun in her pussy and it 

620
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,440
shocked me on the podcast. 
It doesn't mean that I'm like an

621
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Angel of fluff. 
You know, like, I kept my 

622
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,360
addictions concealed because I 
grew up in a household that did 

623
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,880
the same thing. 
Like, you don't tell people what

624
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
goes on on the inside of your 
home. 

625
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,920
And I grew up like that. 
So, you know, going through 

626
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,360
things like that to me was like 
supernatural. 

627
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,200
I mean, everyone in my family 
did pills. 

628
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,360
Even when I wasn't addicted to 
pills, I was still exposed to 

629
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,560
them. 
Like my mom would be like, oh, 

630
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,280
your head hurts. 
Here's a half a tab when she 

631
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520
clearly could have just given me
Tylenol, you know? 

632
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,080
But instead she's like, oh, 
here's a Lortab. 

633
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,480
Oh, here's a Xanax, you're 
stressing. 

634
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,520
Here's a Xanax. 
You know, so it's weird a person

635
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,080
that's watched me in all phases,
but they've basically stayed the

636
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,960
same in a way. 
And it and it's like when the 

637
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,480
baby was coming, it was like, I 
don't really know who he was 

638
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480
because it wasn't who I 
expected, you know, so it's like

639
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,120
the real him is how he's acting 
now. 

640
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,280
And that's what I have to keep 
reminding myself that like what 

641
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,600
happens if something was wrong 
with our baby? 

642
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,800
What happens if something was 
difficult, if something really 

643
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960
needed medical attention or 
something really needed to 

644
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,040
happen? 
Could I depend on him to be 

645
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,720
there? 
Like this man was more worried 

646
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,960
about his two fucking dogs than 
he was hardly anything else. 

647
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,520
And I'll be honest, you all the 
last time I saw him and when I 

648
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,960
was still pregnant, I met his 
dogs. 

649
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,160
And when I left his house, I was
like, there's no fucking way I 

650
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,480
can live with those dogs. 
Like no fucking way I can 

651
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,920
cohabitate, like habitate with 
those dogs. 

652
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,960
And so I know the universe was 
like answering prayers because 

653
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,680
deep down, there was just no way
that it was going to work. 

654
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,400
And it was going to basically 
put me on the timeline of being 

655
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,520
a single mom with a deadbeat 
dad, deadbeat baby dad. 

656
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,640
And I don't want to have a child
with someone that I call baby 

657
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,600
dad. 
Like I want a child's father or 

658
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,280
I don't want one. 
I don't want a baby dad. 

659
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,960
I don't want my boyfriend won't 
get a real job so he doesn't 

660
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,720
have to pay child support or he 
won't do this or that. 

661
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:32,960
Like, you know, that's what I am
like most afraid of now of like 

662
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,640
opening up the door to new 
connection. 

663
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Because after that experience, I
was like, oh, I got to get back 

664
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,080
on birth control. 
And then after I thought about 

665
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,720
it, I was like, or we'll just go
back to being celibate and I'm 

666
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,840
going to make you all literally 
rise to the occasion or don't 

667
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,320
even talk to me. 
Like I have decentered dating. 

668
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,720
I don't care. 
I don't care if I'm 40 and hot 

669
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,440
and no boyfriend and no child. 
I don't give a fuck. 

670
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Like I used to care about that, 
but now that it's happened and 

671
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,320
it's been removed, I see that no
one knows what the fuck they're 

672
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,760
doing. 
Only people who want to support 

673
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,160
each other and want to be a 
parent will be a parent. 

674
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,360
It doesn't matter how many kids 
they got. 

675
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,600
Just like I don't like Elon Musk
but he won't even pay child 

676
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,080
support. 
He's a fucking billionaire. 

677
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Like mental illness. 
It's mental illness to think a 

678
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,720
woman should have to take care 
of your spawn and give it your 

679
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:27,800
last name. 
Mental illness and people who 

680
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,400
choose to work under the table, 
sell drugs, have a fraudulent 

681
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,160
business so they don't have to 
pay child support or insurance 

682
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,560
for their kid should be shot. 
We should bring back public 

683
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200
shaming and you should be shot 
and I don't care. 

684
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,320
Like I have no sympathy for 
people who don't want to take 

685
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,120
care of their kids. 
I'm sorry you should be shot. 

686
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,480
Just go out in the field free 
range. 

687
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,000
You know, you were talking about
how, you know, he his mom Od'd 

688
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560
and he didn't have a dad and he 
was raised by his grandparents 

689
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,520
and whatever. 
And I always talk about the fact

690
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,040
that people can use the things 
that they've gone through to be 

691
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,520
a reason why they can't do 
better, why they are where they 

692
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,160
are. 
Well, I'm this person because 

693
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,720
this is how I grew up. 
Well, I can't be a dad because I

694
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,160
didn't have a dad. 
And, you know, all these things 

695
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,760
are somebody takes those moments
and they go, OK, well, I didn't 

696
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,000
have this, so this is who I'm 
going to be or I didn't, I 

697
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,680
didn't have this vision. 
And so this is who I'm going to 

698
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,520
be and what I'm going to do. 
And that can go in a positive or

699
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,040
negative direction. 
Like I'm, you know, coming to 

700
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,280
terms with the fact that like, 
hey, I stayed inside of a 

701
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,240
marriage that I wasn't happy and
with somebody that I wasn't 

702
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,760
happy to be with. 
And, you know, I left and came 

703
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,360
back so many different times 
because I didn't have a two 

704
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,760
parent household. 
And I thought that it the most 

705
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,880
important thing was to have a 
two parent household. 

706
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,040
And you know, you witnessed all 
of this addiction and people 

707
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,160
going through these things while
you were growing up. 

708
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,400
And so for you that turned into,
well, I have an addiction and I 

709
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,640
keep it secret. 
For me, I was surrounded by 

710
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960
people who were struggling and 
having addiction and all of 

711
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,360
these things and. 
And I got abused by those 

712
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,880
people. 
And so for me, my coping 

713
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,440
mechanism was to turn a blind 
eye and act like none of these 

714
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,920
things were happening. 
And like, that is something that

715
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,280
like I have to cope with now 
that I'm adult and, and, you 

716
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,800
know, things are unfolding, I 
have to realize like, wow, my 

717
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,200
trauma response was to just like
fucking not be present and not 

718
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,040
realize that that was happening.
And that's on me. 

719
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,240
That's on like me to go to 
therapy or whatever for, you 

720
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,600
know, like that's for me to 
fucking work through. 

721
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:52,200
And it's so interesting how we 
adapt to our environments and we

722
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,680
all adapt differently. 
And it's our responsibility to 

723
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,200
figure out like, well, how am I 
allowing past versions of me or 

724
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,440
past situations that I've been 
through affect who I am, but 

725
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,720
also how I treat other people, 
how I do other things. 

726
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:13,360
He didn't, his traumas and his 
inability to to grow didn't just

727
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,920
affect him in that it affected 
you had you actually had a full 

728
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,680
pregnancy and and and had a 
baby, it would have affected 

729
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,560
that baby. 
It would have been something 

730
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,680
that like maybe that affects 
future generations down the line

731
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,160
too, because now that kid has to
process through all those 

732
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,480
things. 
So I would, I would never tell 

733
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,520
you like, Oh, I understand why 
that happened and that had a 

734
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,840
purpose. 
Like I, those aren't words that 

735
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,200
I would ever say. 
If that's something that you're 

736
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,760
feeling in your spirit, like and
that makes sense for you, I 

737
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,920
support that for you. 
But I also, I think that 

738
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,240
whenever you're ready, like if 
you ever decide that you want to

739
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,320
be a parent, whether it be that 
you end up having the 

740
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,480
relationship that you have in 
your fucking mind of like 

741
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,280
perfection and what you need, I 
hope you have that. 

742
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,600
If it ends up changing and 
you're like, I don't know, I can

743
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,920
go and do and you know, get 
inseminated or whatever the 

744
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,120
fuck, like I support that for 
you too. 

745
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,840
I Whatever it ends up being, if 
you decide to never have fucking

746
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,240
kids, like whatever that is, I 
think that you're going to be 

747
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:22,120
amazing at whatever fucking road
and whatever's thrown at you 

748
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,280
will be exactly what it's 
supposed to be. 

749
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,200
I just feel like growing up the 
way that I did, I turned out 

750
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,320
great for the situation. 
Like, you know, being exposed to

751
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,200
things that are really young 
age, I know my mom feels a lot 

752
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,520
of shame about that. 
Like we talked about it before 

753
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,800
and then she wrote me and was 
like, why are you bashing me on 

754
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,560
your podcast? 
And I'm like, I'm not bashing 

755
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,520
you, it's just my experience. 
But she feels a lot of shame in 

756
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,640
the ways that she handled things
because her dad passed when she 

757
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,560
was 11 from drinking and 
driving. 

758
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,080
So at 11, her whole life 
changed. 

759
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,760
So when I turned 11, she started
to treat me like an adult and 

760
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,120
letting me do adult things. 
So, you know, I look around and 

761
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:08,440
I just don't want to set my kid 
up in a sense of like needing to

762
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,720
heal from shit that isn't their 
fault. 

763
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,240
And with the more I looked into 
it, like you said, like that 

764
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,640
person would have been 
influencing my child or our 

765
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,920
child with their beliefs and 
their just negativity, they're a

766
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,880
very negative person. 
And I just don't like that. 

767
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,640
Like now I see the fault in 
allowing people from your past 

768
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,480
to hold space in the new version
of your life. 

769
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,640
Like honestly, if I hold new 
strangers to some utopian 

770
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,160
standard, why the fuck am I 
allowing someone like that to 

771
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,760
come in and hold power over me? 
And I think that was a lesson 

772
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,800
about like being comfortable and
being challenged. 

773
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,600
And I see where I was 
comfortable, but then created a 

774
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,520
challenge because you're not 
meant to be comfortable all the 

775
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,560
time. 
You're not meant to go back to 

776
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,280
someone who's familiar all the 
time. 

777
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,360
Maybe you are, maybe you're not.
But so many people run backwards

778
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,520
rather than even trying to look 
forward. 

779
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Like they just are. 
Like, oh, I can't see in front 

780
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,680
of me. 
I'm just going to keep looking 

781
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,920
behind me. 
And then you've got other types 

782
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,280
of people that want to hold the 
old version of you hostage, 

783
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,280
like, oh, if only people knew 
who you are. 

784
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,280
Oh, if people only we knew that.
OK, I'll air myself out. 

785
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Like, you know, that's what I 
love about this generation of 

786
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,080
women is we don't give a fuck. 
OK, I started cocaine. 

787
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,760
OK, OK. 
What do you think about it? 

788
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,600
You know what I mean? 
Like, OK, someone put their 

789
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,240
butthole on the Internet. 
What are you going to do about 

790
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,200
it? 
Like, triggering men is almost 

791
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,960
like one of my new favorite 
pastimes. 

792
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:42,160
And I think just women thriving,
making their own money and being

793
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,000
happy is such a trigger for men 
that decentering you all has 

794
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,400
been easy. 
On that note, I'm going to read 

795
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,720
us the human design card. 
We got card 26 for the lens. 

796
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,440
I feel like this is really going
to be about looking at things 

797
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:04,800
from a different perspective. 
The gift is perspective, the 

798
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,720
sign is Sagittarius, the gift is
perspective, and the shadow is 

799
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,920
Ego. 
The gift cannot be found through

800
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,120
shaming or Rep or repressing the
ego, but only by seeing the 

801
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,800
beauty that it holds. 
Intention is the key. 

802
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,880
When you're able to look inward 
and unlock the door to your 

803
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,240
inherent gifts, you may utilize 
unique qualities of your 

804
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,560
personality for the betterment 
of the collective. 

805
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,120
Whether savvy or witty or 
enchanting, you can hold 

806
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,600
another's attention and help 
them to see the world through 

807
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,760
new eyes. 
You help to carve out a new wave

808
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,560
forward by simply being yourself
and showcasing your thoughtful, 

809
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,840
heart centered perspective. 
Our collective has emerged from 

810
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,680
the depths of survival mode, and
because we've built our 

811
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,200
civilization from this basis, 
much of the way that we think 

812
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,960
and operate is still indicative 
of our roots. 

813
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,000
As such, Ego Is Prime is 
primarily at the centerfold of 

814
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,760
our experience. 
This shadow creates an illusion 

815
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,920
that the only route to success 
is through hard work, individual

816
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,200
will, and selfish gain. 
You cannot combat divine forces.

817
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,440
We mistakenly believe that brute
force is the only way out or up 

818
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,600
or through, when in fact it's 
what keeps us locked in the 

819
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,520
never ending cycle of the 
survival mindset and the broken 

820
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
record of separation and 
clashing egos. 

821
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,600
Your themes are Personality, 
Perspective, and breakthrough. 

822
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,760
And this episode has been a 
breakthrough because I have been

823
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,600
bottling this up with, you know,
mixed emotions and feelings. 

824
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,880
So it feels really good to just,
like, air it out. 

825
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,400
It's out there for the world. 
No one can hold shit over my 

826
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,800
head if I tell you all first. 
Facts. 

827
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,760
So we'll see you all next time 
in motherfuking Candyland. 

828
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Bye. 
Bye. 

829
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,920
Yeah, he says. 
She's so sweet, man. 

830
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,320
Come on. 
Like a rapper Live me like a 

831
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,480
lollipop, lollipop, lollipop, 
lollipop, lollipop. 

832
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,880
He want to live me like a 
lollipop, lollipop, lollipop. 

833
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,800
He want to swallow my spirit.
