1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,240 Welcome back to another episode of Lick it Like a Lollipop, the 2 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:22,560 podcast This week I'm joined by the Lizard Queen, Kelsey, I 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,640 welcome, beautiful. How are you I'm. 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,600 Doing great, Doing great. So me and Kelsey are just 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,560 Internet friends. Like I know that we live in the 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,600 same area, but we're just Internet friends. 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,520 We have a lot of the similar interest. 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,360 So I wanted to bring you on just to kind of talk to you about 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,880 like spiritual stuff, artistic stuff, and just pretty much 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,160 yourself, just you are as a person and what you have to 11 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:49,240 offer. So welcome. 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Welcome to my virtual meeting room. 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Have you done any podcast interviews before? 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,480 I've done 1 and it was a while ago and this this will be my 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,320 second. Awesome. 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,800 So would you consider yourself like an artist or a model or? 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Probably an artist over model. My modeling kind of started so I 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,880 could use my pictures as references for my art. 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,640 So and then like it kind of got picked up and I started working 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,720 with professional photographers and that's kind of, but it 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,200 always has been my art. Gotcha. 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,440 So do you make like logos and stuff? 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Yeah, I honestly, I've done everything. 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Anything that you can create digitally or I do paintings as 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,800 well. So it's just kind of like I'd, 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,400 I'll do it all. I've done art covers, I've done 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,120 Flyers for local businesses, I've done T-shirt designs. 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,160 I just love creating. I really love the collaboration. 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Could you ever see yourself being a tattoo artist? 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,960 I'm actually apprenticing. See look tattoo and I don't even 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,960 know the details. I've kept that a little low key 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,400 only because I'm not really like taking clients right now. 33 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,080 I'm I have a cousin that lets me tattoo on him. 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,320 So that's really the mostly the only real skin I work on. 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,080 I want to make sure that I'm I've got it down before I get on 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,960 people. Tattooing is such a, like, art 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,280 form that people don't take seriously. 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Yeah, like, so many people just think like, oh, I'm going to 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,600 order a tattoo kit and we're going to do tattoos. 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,080 Like no, this is a blood ritual. You all so blood ritual. 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,240 I was actually bullied into it by my mentor. 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,520 I never, I was in the tattoo industry for like 5 years. 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,320 I was building tattoo machines, running the tattoo supply 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,480 company and the shop and then the owner of the shop decided he 45 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,360 didn't want to have a shop anymore. 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,160 I was kind of like, I don't know what I'm going to do. 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,040 I've been in the tattoo industry for five years, but I'm not a 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,360 tattoo artist, you know? And then my mentor, she was 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,280 tattooing there. She was like, well, you can draw 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,240 like, you can kill it. Like, come on, let's learn to 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,160 tattoo. And I was like, no, no, no. 52 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,520 But she eventually convinced me to do it and I love it. 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,400 It's awesome. I literally see that being a big 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,520 part of your path. Just as like a psychic who 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,800 really doesn't know you, I definitely see that as something 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,320 that you should stick with. Don't fucking tap out and get 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,600 scared down the road because it is a hard industry way into like 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,360 we've had several podcasts or several tattoo artists come onto 59 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,120 the podcast since we started, which now it's a solo project 60 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,240 for me, which, you know, people evolve, we grow apart. 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,840 And so I'm just grateful to still have this space because 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,400 I'm so interested and like artists and tattooers and models 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,160 and just anyone who's saying like fuck the system, I'm going 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,440 to do it my own way. Yeah, sign me up. 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,560 I love you. I'm right there with you on 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,440 that. Yeah, and that's kind of like, 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,360 you know, I know we've never met in person, but we've worked with 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,880 a lot of the same photographers and stuff like that. 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,320 But I love your modeling but I don't even know how I found you 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,800 like. Say the same thing about yours 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,960 for they're grand friends for so long. 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,160 I feel like we've been like liking each other's shit for 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,960 years and everything. You know, and I've always 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,040 thought, like, me and you could like, we we could hang out, 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,640 like, we could be good friends, like just with what you post and 76 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,240 who you are and like, you're very, like, outspoken when you 77 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,279 do speak on stuff. But then you're like, kind of 78 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,320 like me. You don't comment on everything. 79 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:23,360 Yeah. You know, I don't make my page a 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 political page, even though it's always fuck the government, It's 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,280 always fuck the system. Like, but there's so many things 82 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:32,520 that I've seen you and I, like, agree on over the years. 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,600 Yeah. And also another thing that I 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,120 respect about you is, like, keeping your shit private until 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,240 it's more grounded and rooted, because you're right about that. 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,160 Like you can't share your good news with everybody. 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,880 No, but I don't really like to share my stuff until it's done 88 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,680 and then it's kind of easier for me like posting content wise 89 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,240 because then I'm not like. And that's probably why I 90 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,440 haven't been posting this much lately because I've just been 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,840 working and I haven't been creating as much as I really 92 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:05,840 want to. But I like to have stuff done 93 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,680 first so I can like easily put stuff out instead of like 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,480 feeling stressed to like get it, get it, get it. 95 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Yes, I feel like I get really motivated and I will just be 96 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:19,080 like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,120 And for months I'm just like, yeah, I'm good. 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Like now that it's July and it's hot outside, I will not be doing 99 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,240 any outdoor photo shoots. Like if you don't have air 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:33,000 condition, don't call me. No, actually one of the worst 101 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,400 photo shoots that I've ever done, which the pictures came 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,200 out great. And the photographer is my now 103 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,840 boyfriend and we were not dating at the time, but he was like, 104 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:43,360 hey, you want to shoot? And I'm like, sure, we go out in 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,840 95° weather and I'm like, there's no way any of these 106 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,160 pictures are going to turn out good at all. 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,040 And it's kind of like something we joke about now. 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,760 It's like, yeah, it's 95°, you want to go out and shoot. 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,280 So is that how you and your boyfriend met was through 110 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:00,960 modeling or like through photography? 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:07,160 Actually, no, because he, he didn't want to ever date anyone 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,880 that he had taken pictures of because you know, the stigma 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,080 that goes with photographers, you know, they're dating their 114 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,640 models and all this stuff. I actually met him because I was 115 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,880 moving and I put something on the Instagram. 116 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,840 I was like, I have no one to help me move these big things 117 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:26,400 like I need help, need help. He was one of the only people 118 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,520 like just off Instagram like came up and helped me and I was 119 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,200 like, this is he's like real cool. 120 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,880 So we started hanging out after that. 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,200 We shot a couple times and we just started hanging out more 122 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,720 and more and you know, that's how it goes. 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,440 I love that. You know, I think so many 124 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,840 connections are literally being blocked because one person won't 125 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:46,880 speak up and like shoot their shot. 126 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,680 Like there are so many people who I feel like want to say 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,000 something, whether it's a compliment, whether it's a 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,840 question, whether it's an invitation and they just don't 129 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:58,720 do it. And it's that. 130 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,040 I'm I'm the one that's not talking. 131 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,120 I'm not going to lie, not say anything. 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,160 You definitely got to be the person that's going to like, 133 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,400 make me talk about it. Really. 134 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Yeah. Like I'm very much like I shoot 135 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,200 my shot kind of person. And I think the podcast has 136 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,560 really helped me do that because when you have big creators who 137 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,120 are like, hell yeah, I'll come on to your podcast and and talk 138 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,720 to you about my only fans or whatever the fuck, you know, 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,360 like, you know, we get on here and like there's people like, 140 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,880 yeah, I had a BBL and like you just wouldn't even know that 141 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,040 unless they told me that, you know, like there's always been 142 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,680 so many different occurrences where I've made really great 143 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,600 friends through this project. And that's why I like when 144 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,520 things started going South with the Co host, I was like, you 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,200 know what? This this is going to be like, 146 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,280 it's going to keep going. Like, I'm coming up on the 147 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,760 project because there has been people like yourself that I 148 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,240 talked about coming on the podcast a long time ago. 149 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Like, you know, there's just different people in the past 150 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 that I used to brainstorm. Like, they're creative, they're 151 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 cool, they're funny. I want to talk to them. 152 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,920 And it's really a way to like, form relationships with people 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,720 through art, like whether it's photography, through tattooing, 154 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 through music, through podcasting, Like it is such a 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,200 way to like, create new bonds that you normally would not 156 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,520 have. I agree. 157 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,840 I agree. I think it's a big connection 158 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,880 industry, which Loki was kind of one of the hardest parts about 159 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,520 it for me because it's like I'm not as social as I am online in 160 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,360 real life. So it's it's like that part of 161 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,200 it was very hard to be like, OK, you need to like start network 162 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,080 networking, meeting people, you know. 163 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,640 But now like that is a really fun part for me because like you 164 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,080 said, you meet people that like you would have never met before 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,040 they had. You have the same like mindset. 166 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:49,200 Yeah, yeah. And that's why I, like, I always 167 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,240 tell people like, we're just gonna shoot the shit. 168 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,120 Like it's literally like we're just hanging out. 169 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Like we're on a FaceTime. There's no pressure. 170 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,200 I don't have any questions. I'm literally like loving the 171 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,120 vibe of just going with the flow lately where, you know, instead 172 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,000 of having all these moving parts for an interview to come 173 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,160 together, now it's just me being like, hey, are you free? 174 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Hey, I'm ready. Hey, what's up? 175 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Like you wrote me yesterday. I was like, are we still 176 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,720 recording? Like it's so like taking off the 177 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,800 pressure of trying to like get multiple people to schedule and 178 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,400 move all these parts around. And I'm literally like loving it 179 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,960 because I'm always like just able to connect with people on a 180 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,000 deeper level because it gives you a spotlight that, like you 181 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,120 said, you're not allowing people to have that lens into your 182 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,120 life. So this is like super special. 183 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,920 And I love that you, you know, decided to come on. 184 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,680 So as you're moving through your tattoo apprenticeship, how do 185 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:48,840 you utilize the art that you want to create with the art that 186 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,040 you're being asked to create? It's, it's actually a big thing 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,160 in the tattoo industry. It's I think being in the 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,880 industry for five years, I've watched artists really struggle 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,880 with it. They a lot of artists want to do 190 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,800 what they want to do. I think maybe because I've come 191 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:14,240 at it from like an artist that does designs into tattooing, 192 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,000 that part of it's kind of fun for me. 193 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,480 I like, I really enjoy collaborating with people and 194 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,080 like them giving me an idea and I'm like, oh, I see it, let me 195 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,280 draw it. And they're like, well, can you 196 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,280 do some a little different? Yeah, absolutely. 197 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,840 Let me mix this up. I like the challenge of it. 198 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,720 But that is a big thing in tattoo. 199 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,400 And I know a lot of people have gone to shops and they've said, 200 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,320 like, you know, I don't like this or I want this move. 201 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,560 Then the tattoo artist makes you feel bad about it. 202 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,360 And I just, I don't like those vibes. 203 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Like if I feel like if you're a good artist, you can collaborate 204 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,040 with anybody and anybody's ideas. 205 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,040 Yes, and that's kind of like with my artist Q He and I have 206 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,920 built such a relationship and a friendship that like I trade 207 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,360 readings for tattoos and like mediumship services for tattoos. 208 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Like I haven't bought a tattoo in so long like and I forget 209 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,440 that people have to like budget for tattoos. 210 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,760 I know that sounds bad and I'm not being cocky all, but like I 211 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,520 forget that people are legitimately saving up for a 212 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,880 tattoo because if I want a tattoo, he's just like, hell 213 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,760 yeah, let's start a project. My mom wants a reading my you 214 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,920 know, my friend wants a reading. Like I always tell him that he 215 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,320 gets like VIP because I don't do in person readings. 216 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,200 Not that I can't, I just choose not to. 217 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,560 It's so much energy. There's a lot more intensity to 218 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,640 it and instead of just like, oh, reading's over, I'm going to 219 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,360 close my computer and move on. It's like, oh, the person's 220 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,760 here. You know, until recently he 221 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,080 traded me two scorpions, one for his friend and then one for him. 222 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,200 And I'm just like, yeah, you see my new tattoos I traded for him. 223 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,200 And like, it just makes me feel like my your child is thriving. 224 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Yes, no, that's something I love about industries like this is 225 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,240 you can like trade your trade, like you don't have to take 226 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,880 money like you could like if I could find, you know, someone 227 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,600 that do my eyelashes for tattoos, like you bet I'm going 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,080 to do that. If I can find someone that's 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 going to do my nails, like absolutely. 230 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,440 Like let's do it like it's the coolest thing about working. 231 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,720 I guess you'd say like a non corporate and industry. 232 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,440 Yeah, and a lot of people don't realize that I am ready for you 233 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,160 to shoot your shot and trade whatever with me. 234 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Like, oh, you have teeth on a necklace? 235 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,960 Call me over there because I want some of it. 236 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,560 And, you know, recently my my nail girl was like, hey, babe, I 237 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:38,000 really need a reading. Do you want to trade? 238 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,360 And I was like, hell yeah. So later that day was actually 239 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,280 my appointment. And when I showed up, she was 240 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,200 like, no wonder you asked if you want, if I want you to bring 241 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,160 your cards. I didn't realize you were coming 242 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,720 today. And I'm like, well, I thought 243 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,920 that's why you messaged me at 6:00 this morning. 244 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,640 She said, no, something was just heavy on my heart. 245 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,760 And I just wanted to ask you. And I'm like, well, here I am. 246 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,360 And so it just like worked out so perfectly. 247 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,720 But like, it really fuels my inner child to like be able to 248 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,080 trade something that I'm good at for something that you're good 249 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,240 at or like what you're doing. And so many people have amazing 250 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,000 skills and amazing talents, but they're not even seeing that 251 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,360 it's not about the money, it's about the quality and the 252 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,960 experience. Like a lot of people will pay 253 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,600 more to me for something because of the quality and the 254 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,120 experience they can expect. Same thing with a tattoo. 255 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,720 Like there's people out there charging $500.00 for 1/4 sized 256 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,960 piece and $50.00 for 1/4 sized piece. 257 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,280 It's just like it's an evolution. 258 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,680 And when you believe in your art, I really believe other 259 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,360 people believe in your art too. I agree. 260 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,400 I agree. What is the craziest thing that 261 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,040 you have seen working in the tattoo industry for five? 262 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,680 Years. God, I've seen so much. 263 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,680 The craziest thing is probably always going to be, and this is 264 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:01,600 probably cliche of me, but people getting other people's 265 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,040 names tattooed on them. Every time. 266 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,520 I'm shocked. Every time. 267 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,280 I don't like the whole tattoo shop is going to try to convince 268 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,520 you not to do it. They're getting there and it's a 269 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,560 curse. It's a curse. 270 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:15,040 You get someone's name, you ain't getting up together. 271 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,320 I've seen a guy come in three separate times and get 3 272 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,880 different names with the girl sitting next to him. 273 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,440 Brought him into the same tattoo shop. 274 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,560 And that's always awkward because like obvious like what 275 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,000 are you? You're going to be like, hey, 276 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,160 he's been here before, you know, like. 277 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,200 Like, how's Janet? And they're like, this is Tanya. 278 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:40,320 And we're like, oh, OK. I seen this one guy came in, 279 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,600 he'd been with the girl for a month and got Caitlyn of like 280 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:50,360 from hip to hip, like huge. I'm talking like the big one of 281 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,360 the biggest tattoo name tattoos I've ever seen just across his 282 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,720 body just. I have been in relationships 283 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,200 where people have tattooed my name. 284 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,800 I don't know why, but I will also let you all know that there 285 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,920 were drugs involved. OK, like there were drugs 286 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,640 involved. It's. 287 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Never a same thought like and don't get me wrong, like I've 288 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,000 I've gotten tattoos for people I've been in relationships with, 289 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,720 but I also like knew I was going to end up covering it. 290 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,560 So and I didn't get a name. I got like a little symbol that 291 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,440 was like something that I could work into something else. 292 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,520 Yeah, I personally think it's crazy work, but when I was about 293 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,080 19, I had a boyfriend who did like house tattoos, like 294 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,400 straight up, he did house hats. And I thought that I could just 295 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,080 watch him do those long enough. And I don't draw you all like I 296 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,440 do not fucking draw. OK? 297 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,600 I watched this man and then decided that I was going to give 298 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,440 it a run. Not only did one consenting 299 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,520 adult agree, 3 consenting adults let me and I could see like you 300 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,160 draw. You could be like, look at my 301 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,560 artwork me baby, I don't do those things. 302 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,160 So like the fact that you would even trust me, even just a 303 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,480 little bit with your skin shows that you need to really go to 304 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,000 therapy because like, no free tattoo is worth it looking like 305 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,840 shit or giving you a blood borne disease or illness, right? 306 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,680 What the fuck was I doing? And you know what's crazy is 307 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,480 like, OK, so I did a heart. You know, when all the girls 308 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,480 would get hearts on their hip? That was fine, that the heart 309 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,800 was perfect. I nailed it. 310 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,040 But then I did a star and that shit was fucked. 311 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,920 And then the fact that I did the star that was fucked and then 312 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,280 someone else was like, you know what? 313 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,520 I want five stars across my chest. 314 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Oh my God. I did it and then one of my 315 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 friends actually dated the guy who had the stars across his 316 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,600 chest and she told me that in instead of getting them covered 317 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,600 up he had someone add like some clouds and some shit around it 318 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,440 and added on to it. No, because that was my next 319 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,280 question was I was going to say, did he cover it? 320 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,000 That sounds awful. No, he did the craziest thing 321 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,440 and added to what was already there. 322 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,480 And I mean, like I said earlier, I'm a little like out of realm 323 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,040 when it comes to what tattoos cost and how expensive they are. 324 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,240 Because yes, they are very expensive, but there ain't no 325 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,079 way in hell I would save my money every day before I would 326 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,640 just let anyone. Literally, I always, I always 327 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,320 think it's so funny when people get hung up on it, how expensive 328 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,120 tattoos are, because one, that's the artist's price. 329 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,240 Like what? How are you going to argue with 330 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,160 them? That's what they've said. 331 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,360 And then two, you're getting something permanent on your 332 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:44,760 body, like, Oh my God, you would spend more on a bag or like AT 333 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,240 shirt or clothes that you're gonna like get rid of eventually 334 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,320 or lose. Like this is something forever. 335 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Why would you not want to spend the most money on your body? 336 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,800 You know that's how I feel with people in like hygiene. 337 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,640 People do not realize what the fuck women spend to look nice 338 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,760 like eyebrows tinted and wax. 50 if you get lashes, 150 you get 339 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,600 snails. 150 you get a spray tan, which I don't add another 50, 340 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,840 you know, you get your hair highlighted and if it's my 341 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,080 length and you go to a shop in Louisville, 300 plus dollars. 342 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,920 So right there is just maintenance. 343 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,200 Like that's $1000 of maintenance. 344 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,280 That's not like, oh, I wanted to get a little filler or oh, I 345 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,240 want to get Botox. Like people don't realize and we 346 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,160 talked about this on other episodes, but like the only 347 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,760 people I see hating on filler and Botox are people who really 348 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,880 can't afford it or or shocked that it's that expensive. 349 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,880 Yes, there are people that overdo it, of course. 350 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,200 Yeah, always. See either. 351 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,280 Like the haters on it when it's literally a maintenance thing. 352 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,080 Like there are so many things that just not even gender 353 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,320 specific that are maintenance that some people just choose not 354 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,640 to maintain. They choose not to. 355 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:08,680 And then those same people will be on mine or your post talking 356 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,080 about talking shit you know or whatever. 357 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Like it blows my mind. It's always people who literally 358 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,760 look like a thumb or like the bottom of the shoe that have 359 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,920 something to say about women and their fillers and their bodies. 360 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:26,240 I love. Those videos I see where people 361 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,720 like take the comments where someone said awful and then just 362 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,160 zoom in on their profile picture. 363 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,160 It's like, all right. No seriously, and like, I have 364 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:41,240 thought about like like reciting my DMS in a theatric way, but 365 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,160 some of the shit that is said to me would get me banned, you 366 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,760 know? To God, people are crazy online. 367 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,800 People get so bold behind the screen. 368 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,720 Yes, yes. And like, I don't get it. 369 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Because what's wrong with our generation is lack of 370 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,240 communication, like lack of transparency. 371 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,960 Like it's really easy to be like I'm not looking for anything 372 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,520 serious. I just want to cuddle. 373 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,480 I want emotional receptiveness and some sex or whatever. 374 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,000 But like, I don't want to date you. 375 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,640 Like, it's so easy to say that because probably. 376 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,360 Probably 90% of the time, that person's still going to hang out 377 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,600 with you. You're just going to be happy 378 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,600 that you at least didn't lead them on. 379 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Or like, you know, when I see women online especially talking 380 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,400 about, like, my man never does this, but I always do. 381 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,400 And it's like this laundry list of things. 382 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:41,040 I'm like, no, yeah. No, no, I like, I like it. 383 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,120 First of all, we were talking about maintenance. 384 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,120 I I'd be damned, I'd be fucking damned if I pay all this money 385 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:52,560 and do all this stuff and a man doesn't do nothing like you 386 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,440 better like have it some type of good hygiene. 387 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,400 Like my I have such high standards when it comes to the 388 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280 man I'm dating's hygiene. I swear, because I'm put like 389 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,720 you said, I'm putting all this money into looking good like and 390 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,760 you're just washing with soap in the back. 391 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,760 No, you, you at least have a face routine. 392 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,320 You know what I mean? You got to be taking care of 393 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:19,080 yourself too. Like it's that shit kills me. 394 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Yeah, I think so many people have like, increased their 395 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:31,120 standards for women in general and then like, men don't have 396 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:34,760 these standards like that. Are we dating the same guy 397 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,960 group? Like why are you all fighting 398 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,440 under like for the troll under the bridge right now? 399 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,360 I love that group. I'd be eating those posts up. 400 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Oh my God, that the drama on that the and that you know, I've 401 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,000 never been really like in the dating scene of you know, 402 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Louisville and it is crazy. Y'all got me scared on these 403 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,520 pages. Like it is a whole nother realm. 404 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,640 Like I I've never experienced some of the stuff these girls 405 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,040 are going through with these, like leave them alone, that 406 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,920 there's no redeeming qualities there. 407 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,840 You know, a lot of women don't realize that they are actively 408 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,040 activating generational curses by dating these people. 409 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Like I used to say, because I can be very self aware and see 410 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,560 that my taste in men was a form of self harm. 411 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,760 That's what that was like. It wasn't oh, I didn't have 412 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,520 confidence or oh I didn't love myself. 413 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,360 No, it was an active form of self hatred. 414 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,400 Like the men I dated was an active form of self harm. 415 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,480 Like instead of starving myself, I just did this, you know, like 416 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,760 self harm knows no limits. And that is what my dating 417 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,800 history has been. So if I've ever dated you and 418 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,840 you're listening, you need therapy. 419 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Like if you hear this, like check in, tap in baby. 420 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Because yes, you are so right. And those groups literally were 421 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,640 giving me such a bad, bad stigma around men that I muted the 422 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,480 group. And then whenever the mute went 423 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,760 away, I realized that they had deleted me. 424 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,200 So I took that as like, a line from the universe that I really 425 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,200 needed to stop seeing that because I already have my own 426 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,320 experiences that, like, disgust me. 427 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,560 But now we're seeing the bombshell beautiful women. 428 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,920 So this one Hispanic girl on there was the prettiest girl I 429 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,360 have ever seen in my life. And she had, like, the gas 430 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:41,560 station white dude. And everybody was like, yeah, he 431 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,200 was at my house. Yeah, he's got my kid. 432 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,920 Oh, my God. He stole from me. 433 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,320 He took my grandma's pills like. No, because you're not lying 434 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,920 because I'm on there and like it has not changed my opinion to 435 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:58,040 admit I can tell you that it has it like it's like, it is truly 436 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,360 terrifying to see the way that some people are treated in a 437 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,040 relative because it's like, that's not a relationship. 438 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,880 Like you are trapped. You are trapped. 439 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:13,200 Yeah, and it's a form of self harm, like surrounding yourself 440 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,480 with someone who is constantly exposing you to disease and 441 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,920 sickness. And I have friends who work in 442 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,240 the healthcare field and they have straight talked about like 443 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,880 the outbreak of herpes in this city. 444 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,080 Like they're like, it's not just, oh, the common, everyone 445 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,880 has the common thing. They're like, no, they have the 446 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800 active 11 that's spreading it. They have it. 447 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,320 And they're not like people don't use protection. 448 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,320 Like it's crazy. It's like if you know you have 449 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,640 stuff like that, like you need, you need to be, it's like not 450 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,920 consentful to talk to somebody about that shit before you 451 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,520 engage in having sex with them. Like that's crazy. 452 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Yeah, and I saw this, one of my guy friends is kind of like the 453 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,080 therapist for his like friend group and they're in their 40s, 454 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,920 like he's like in his mid 40s. And he sent a screenshot where 455 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,240 this girl had been dating this guy and she was basically 456 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,040 wanting my friend to kind of talk her off the ledge. 457 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,880 But she'd been dating this guy for like 6 months and kept 458 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,960 getting like BV or like some kind of something. 459 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,840 And so her body was literally giving her the signs. 460 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600 Well she just kept going and getting medicine and like 461 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,920 treating it. Whatever. 462 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,320 We'll come to find out the whole time her and this man are not 463 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,840 using protection and she has full blown herpes. 464 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,600 And so my boyfriend was like, so he doesn't care about what you 465 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,840 have? And she said no, none of these 466 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000 guys care. That's what no, seriously, and 467 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,320 like I'm telling you, and it's people always talk about like if 468 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,200 girl shit stinks, you know, if if you are like smelling, that's 469 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,120 your man's fault. Like you like, if you're taking 470 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:57,840 care of yourself and you have a problem that is consistent, you 471 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,960 really need to find out what's going on because that is like 472 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,960 your body telling you that something is wrong and something 473 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,920 is not right. Yeah. 474 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,880 And I'm in this other women's group, I think it's called like 475 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,760 the high maintenance female or something like that. 476 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,520 And it was basically talking about your body will create its 477 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,960 own bacterias to protect you, and it will be literally 478 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,320 rejecting someone else's bodily fluids or chemistry. 479 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,640 And they were talking about like, not everyone's fluids and 480 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,720 everyone's bodies are even compatible. 481 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,840 So the whole time your body is like activating all of these 482 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,640 issues, it's because it's trying to tell you, hey, this isn't 483 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,400 right. This isn't for you. 484 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,120 Like this shit is this shit. That man alone. 485 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,200 I'm telling you like being on a celibacy journey. 486 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,000 I was on a celibacy journey for like 3 years and then last 487 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,400 summer came off of it, had sex 1 fucking time and got pregnant. 488 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,680 And then luckily I had a miscarriage, which was for the 489 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,920 better. But I'm talking like this was 490 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,360 the the talk that when you're like 15 and you're so scared of 491 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,120 getting pregnant. That's what happened to me. 492 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:11,640 Like the ripe age of 30 something years old. 493 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,400 I'm literally like, Oh my God, I know I'm pregnant and I'm like, 494 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,920 Oh my God, I'm so scared like and I'm like 30 something years 495 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,920 old, like scared to death. And it's just wild because the 496 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,680 woman's body is like, it's like a radio frequency. 497 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,880 Like if you're in the right frequency, you're going to be 498 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,080 healthy and happy and whole. But if you're in the wrong 499 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,560 frequency, baby, you're going to be sick, you're going to be 500 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,000 tired, you're going to be irritable. 501 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,160 Like people don't realize a males DNA can literally change 502 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,200 your internal DNA especially when you get pregnant. 503 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,960 Yes, Oh my gosh. My sister just had a baby and I 504 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,920 watched her let her body change and like the way her hormones 505 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,400 changed and she actually had preeclampsia which was like the 506 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,400 scariest thing in the world. I will never forget how swollen 507 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,360 her legs were like I literally thought her legs were going to 508 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,360 burst open. It was the most scariest thing I 509 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:12,120 have ever seen. I remember she she would have to 510 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,160 wear compression socks because she literally could not walk 511 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,000 around and it she's always been like a lot smaller than me. 512 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,480 So it was like crazy to see her body change so quickly and like 513 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,040 so tremendously. And she would take these socks 514 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:35,440 off and me and her boyfriend would just scream because there 515 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,600 would be this crazy like where the sock that was squeezing her 516 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,240 like the most crazy indention I have ever seen. 517 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,600 I can't even explain how like swollen she was. 518 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600 And it's like, I was just like, oh, my God. 519 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Like, they tell you that your body changes and everything like 520 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,400 that, but they don't really explain it. 521 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,280 They also don't explain that your hormones start changing 522 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,760 immediately, and they don't go back until, like, years later. 523 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Yeah. So you're like a different 524 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,480 person for years because of it. Honestly like I just had that 525 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,520 pregnancy scare and was only pregnant for like 2 months. 526 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,960 No. And my shit was fucked. 527 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,920 Yeah, it's not working itself out. 528 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,960 It's. It doesn't matter if you have an 529 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,880 abortion or a miscarriage or anything. 530 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080 Literally the moment you become pregnant, your hormones are 531 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560 different. For years, yeah. 532 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,200 It's like, honestly, what was so weird about it is because like, 533 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,480 you know, I had went to the doctor so I had a due date. 534 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,960 So like all the way up until that due date, I literally still 535 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,640 felt like I was forming this life or even just kind of like 536 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,280 grieving it in a different way, even though, like ironically, I 537 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,640 was very grateful. Like it happened. 538 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680 It wasn't a boyfriend. It was just like a hookup. 539 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,080 Like it was just the worst case scenario that it could have 540 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,680 been. Now, like so many people are 541 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,720 like you speaking about this so openly and not like being 542 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,560 depressed or letting it upset you or trigger you. 543 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Like it's super healing for me because so many women go through 544 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,320 these changes alone, whether they're pregnant and their 545 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,160 partner doesn't understand or they're alone and they don't 546 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,760 have a partner partner. Like people don't realize what 547 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080 women do to keep this population intact. 548 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,560 It's a nut. It's nuts. 549 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Suffering. After that happened to me like 550 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,280 now I am not sure I even want a kid. 551 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,000 Like I'm just not sure. Go through and I'm like, girl, 552 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,360 you have traumatized me. I didn't really want kids before 553 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,960 that, but now it looks. Terrifying. 554 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Yes. And you know, it's good thing 555 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,320 that, like, she had you and her boyfriend because so many women 556 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,160 battle this shit. Yeah. 557 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:54,280 And it was too, because my, my mom was also very worried about 558 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,920 her and how swollen she was. And you know, she's like, you 559 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,960 need to tell your doctor you have preeclampsia. 560 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760 Like you need to tell. And like, she spoke out to the 561 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,320 doctor several times and they're like, no, no, no, you're fine. 562 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480 You're fine. And she didn't get diagnosed 563 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,360 with it until she went into labor. 564 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,840 And they were like, Oh yeah, you have preeclampsia. 565 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,240 Like, we're going to have to handle this now. 566 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,440 And she asked multiple times. Yeah, I personally need to have 567 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,680 a really fat like labor and delivery fund because I will 568 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,400 never have labor at a fucking hospital. 569 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,360 Like I only had to meet with a doctor once and this is like I'm 570 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,120 literally like it feels like 4 1/2 days pregnant. 571 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,040 I'm like 4 1/2 weeks pregnant. This old ass man who has been my 572 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,320 OBGYN but will no longer be looks me. 573 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,600 He looks me up and down. We get into the room and he 574 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,680 goes, yeah, if you have to have AC section, I'm going to have to 575 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,400 cut through all these tattoos right here, He said. 576 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,080 Artists really need to tell people having stomach tattoos 577 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,040 could affect you. I'm sorry Sir, I'm basically 578 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,520 four days pregnant and you're talking about AC section that 579 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,440 I'm not having because that's not even in my cards. 580 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,480 Like they literally set women up for failure. 581 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,000 Like they do not give a fuck. Like, and then there's a website 582 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,400 that you basically can read reviews for doctors, kind of 583 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,200 like glass door is for jobs. And I started reading it and it 584 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,080 was talking about women who gave birth. 585 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,080 And this man was like the filling CEO and or the filling 586 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,720 CEO, the filling guy, that delivery guy. 587 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,520 And they were like, his bedside manner was awful. 588 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,320 He was just so rude. And I'm just like, why is a man 589 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160 like that delivering babies? That makes sense. 590 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:42,920 It is like such a crazy medical thing that happens. 591 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,960 Like it is a huge procedure like and to be like have attitude 592 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,720 like that or like and be that way is so crazy to me. 593 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Like why are you here? Like, do you want to be here or 594 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,080 do you like it's for the money? Yeah, it's literally scarred me. 595 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,960 And just like the initial situation just has completely 596 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,800 put me in a position where it's like it's really going to have 597 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,880 to be in alignment because we're back on the celibacy journey. 598 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,120 And men, like I honestly think Spirit had me go through that so 599 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,240 I could go back into like the men disgust me era. 600 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,000 And like, you really need to up your shit and like rise to the 601 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,120 occasion. Like there's no more coming down 602 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,280 here to meet you all below the screen where you're at. 603 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,680 You know what I mean? Like we're not going that 604 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,760 anymore. Like we're done so with your 605 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,240 your sisters. So she had her baby. 606 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040 Yep. Baby and everything was good. 607 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,160 And he's a little cutie. Good. 608 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,000 Best in. I love that, I love that. 609 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880 So I wanted to talk about your only fans. 610 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,800 Do you still have only fans? So I'm saying this and it cracks 611 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,200 me up. I'm retired. 612 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,080 I've retired from Only Fans. Oh my God, it's so funny. 613 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:09,320 I've actually, I started my only Fans in 2019 so and that was 614 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:15,679 like when it was like first kind of starting to become 615 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,239 mainstream. And I really was doing it 616 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,880 because I it was the only space I felt that I could post my 617 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,520 uncensored art because I do draw nudes. 618 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,639 So I can't post stuff on Instagram yet. 619 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,600 I really don't love Twitter that much. 620 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Like I'm more it's just, you know, I'm not putting it on 621 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,199 Facebook. Like I just didn't have a space 622 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:46,840 to put that. And most of my art is based off 623 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,520 of my nudes. I take some fire ass nudes and 624 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,600 my thinking back then and that still is now like someone's got 625 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,200 to see these, like these are someone's got to see this 626 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:05,400 picture and I still like that. But over the years it kind of 627 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,840 turned into me just like making customs, I guess you would say. 628 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:18,000 I've never put any like sex videos or like penetration or 629 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,120 anything like that. That wasn't like my jam. 630 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,480 No hate sex work is work. Like do you? 631 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,360 For me, I didn't want to do that. 632 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,440 I really, but what I did was essentially like transition 633 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,920 videos but instead of a new outfit, I'm Naked. 634 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,480 My God, I just enjoyed making those. 635 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,440 They're really fun and I needed somewhere to post them. 636 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,520 And that's kind of what started my Only Fans. 637 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,840 And then I had a video that went viral. 638 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,240 I think I got over 1,000,000 views on it because I had nipple 639 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,760 rings, literally because I had nipple rings there. 640 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,120 It is a transition video where I kind of my hair's a little 641 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,280 frizzy and then I flip it and it's straight and you can see my 642 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,120 nipple ring. So I got over 1,000,000 views on 643 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:13,600 that and I think I got up to like 25,000 followers and I made 644 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,520 over $5000 in two days. It was crazy because I already 645 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,320 had that only fan set up, so like they were just going to it 646 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,320 and like buying my stuff and everything. 647 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,560 I think this was in 2022 or something like that. 648 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,680 But quickly realized that I kind of had a cap on it because I 649 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,080 wasn't making super sexual videos and I would like that's 650 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,160 what people want out of only fans. 651 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,520 That's just not what I was doing. 652 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,440 So it's it's not, it's a good space for sex work and I support 653 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,800 that, but it's not the space that's where I really want to 654 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,520 be. So I'm, I deleted my only fans 655 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,520 and I'm going to maybe move over to like a Patreon. 656 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,960 I haven't really decided where yet, but I want, I really want 657 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000 to be able to focus more on my art. 658 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,400 Yeah, Patreon I've had for about four years as kind of like a, 659 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,040 it's like a subscription base for my readings and stuff like 660 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,160 that. And I used to do a lot of 661 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,360 community circles and I do like a healing spell every month. 662 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,040 And so Patreon recently in the last few years started allowing 663 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480 sex work on there, but you have to sign it up as an explicit. 664 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,440 But honestly, I love Patreon. It's just one of those things 665 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,920 where like every month I know that I'm going to have at least 666 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,920 $1000 coming in from Patreon period, no matter what. 667 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,640 It is a lot of work for me to keep up with every little thing 668 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,120 I do on there because I had the bright idea to like make a tear 669 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,720 for every fucking thing and like have tears, you know, from $11 670 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,800 to $200. And like ironically, the bigger 671 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,880 tears are where people book and and stay consistent, like $50 672 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,200 and above because the prices are so much better like if you're on 673 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,520 a subscription obviously than if someone just buys it one time. 674 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,760 So I do recommend Patreon. I think it's a really good 675 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,920 platform just for all forms of content, like if you want to 676 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960 talk to people directly or if you want to do a live stream or 677 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,480 if you want to like post videos or photos, like it lets you do 678 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080 whatever. We'll say that they have gotten 679 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:36,600 so greedy though, because of course, like iOS wanted a cut of 680 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,760 like the app fees. So like if they sign up on the 681 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,640 website, iOS gets cut out, but if you like sign up through the 682 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,200 App Store it will literally charge them an extra 30%. 683 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,880 So like it's 30 and so you can either like set that up or the 684 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,360 30 is going to come out of your money or their money. 685 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,000 It's a mess. None of my clients do it that 686 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,720 way because every month I stress like make sure you go to Safari 687 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:09,360 or go to a web browser, Google, whatever and and do it through 688 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,480 there. Do not do it as the App Store is 689 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,520 prompting you. But I think that only fans 690 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,160 really got such a bad stigma because there are a bunch of 691 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,400 people like yourself that like, never did penetration videos or 692 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,040 videos. Like I constantly get told to 693 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,640 make it only fans because I have a ton of modeling that's like, 694 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,480 yeah, you're not ever going to see it. 695 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,240 And I have modeling pictures from like before I started 696 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,720 getting tattooed. And I mean, I know this sounds 697 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,240 weird, but like I'm like 1819 in those pictures. 698 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:42,920 And I know that's what these weirdos like. 699 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,960 Like that's what they want. So I'm like, maybe one day I'll 700 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,840 just collect it all and then I'll do like an archive of like 701 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,280 through the years. I like encourage people who want 702 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,440 to post sexy content to make an only fans like I. 703 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,720 It's just I wasn't focusing on my art. 704 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,680 I was more focused on the making money. 705 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,600 And then it was like I was just kind of throwing together these 706 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,400 videos and like, and it started with me just I think essentially 707 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,840 what it was I was. Making videos for men instead of 708 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,960 making nude videos I enjoyed. So I want to get back to like 709 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,120 making the content I had fun making versus like, oh, let me 710 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,040 make this real quick so I can get this money. 711 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,840 Yeah, yeah, whenever I saw like the ratio of what Only Fans 712 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,680 takes, it's fucking crazy. Like 1 girl. 713 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,400 But yeah, so funny because you can't even say Cash App. 714 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,160 You can't say like if you type Cash App into only fans, they'll 715 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,280 like pop up and be like, hey, we'll, we'll ban your account If 716 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,680 you say Cash App again, like you can't. 717 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,560 They want their money so bad. They take like a percentage of 718 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,760 everything. Yeah, I saw a girl post like her 719 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:03,400 messages and it was like sent 40 received 22 more than you get. 720 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,200 Damn. I'm like, they're hot. 721 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,760 Yeah, you and that's the that's the thing too, that no one 722 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,920 realizes. Like if you really want to make 723 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,200 money on only fans, because I've been like I've been in spots 724 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,600 where I didn't work for a full year because I was doing just 725 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,560 only fans and I wasn't rich. I wasn't like making hella 726 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,720 money, but I also didn't have to work and I was paying my bills 727 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,720 and I had my nails done and I was going out to eat and I was, 728 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:31,920 you know what I mean? Like it was. 729 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,920 And then I've had times where I haven't made shit and I'm like, 730 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,000 why am I posting and this stuff? Why? 731 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,480 And I'm not even making money. So it's just kind of like you 732 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,280 have to be consistent with it, but also you have to have such a 733 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,360 big following on there to make actual money because of the 734 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,760 percentages they're taking. You basically have to be selling 735 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,600 multiple things a day or you're not going to like really 736 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,880 accumulate a big amount. Yeah, I think the one person 737 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,920 that I know that really ran a check on Only Fans was Bunny XO. 738 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,600 Like that bitch came out and was top creator and now she's doing 739 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,000 that on Patreon with 300,000 subscribers like that woman. 740 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,040 And her work ethic has translated whether we're doing 741 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,640 sex work, podcasting, TV shows, reality TV, whatever it is. 742 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,960 And that's what I fucking love about it is like she's taught me 743 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,280 to like stay consistent with what you're passionate about in 744 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,560 the that it's no longer fun for you. 745 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,840 Fuck it, cut it out. That's where I'm at right now 746 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:41,240 and that I have such a hard time staying consistent. 747 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:45,480 And I, and that's kind of why I've kind of like held off on 748 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,080 making a Patreon because I'm like, OK, if I'm going to do 749 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,880 this, like I'm going to do the subscription, everything. 750 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,880 Like I've got to give people what they're paying for. 751 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080 I've got to know that I'm going to be posting this shit. 752 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,360 I'm going to be working on my art and doing this. 753 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,480 And it's like, so it's I'm still kind of getting there, but I'm 754 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,640 feeling it click into place. Like it's just the motivation is 755 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,320 so hard. I'm gonna blame. 756 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,200 Honestly, if you did like a $10 flat subscription and you just 757 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,960 posted whatever you wanted and then you could do like higher 758 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,600 subscription tiers for more intricate, you know, whatever 759 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400 type of content. But I always recommend people to 760 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,520 like establish it because you will be shocked on how many 761 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,000 people who will just give you $10 A, a month to just like 762 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,960 watch a few different little time lapse videos of you 763 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,920 drawing. Or you know, like I never 764 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,400 dreamed that my Patreon would still be bringing me such an 765 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,640 income four years later. And I went through this like 766 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,440 phase this year where I just didn't want to do readings for 767 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,640 strangers anymore and just like completely took all of my 768 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,720 services down off my website for like 3 months. 769 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,360 And then when I came back, my prices were like triple. 770 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,120 And so like now it's really only super aligned people coming into 771 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,800 that space. But with Patreon, some of those 772 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,320 people have been writing like since the beginning, but I've 773 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,680 never done a price increase. So like if they were paying $50 774 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,000 four years ago, they're still paying $50. 775 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,800 But you know, it's nice because I'm able to take a step back 776 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,480 from my business, but my business bills still get paid 777 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,520 through Patreon. And it's just like, I mean, I 778 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,840 have a full time job too. So like I've never had to do my 779 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,600 business just for like everything. 780 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,560 Because like you said earlier, if you're just creating for 781 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,160 money, it takes the fun out of it. 782 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,520 Yeah, it really does. And and I hated that I got into 783 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,920 that space. It was so draining. 784 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,080 I didn't want to do it. I was like, Oh my God, I have to 785 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,000 make some content. I don't want to do this. 786 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,160 And I, and I don't know, I'm everyone I sent stuff to, they 787 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,760 were like, Oh, I love this, you know, whatever. 788 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,640 And I'm like, how like I didn't put no effort into this. 789 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,440 I slapped this together and I hated that I was doing that too. 790 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,360 I was like, there's no passion in this anymore. 791 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,840 So it's I'm, I'm excited for like the new chapter of it to 792 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,720 get back to what I really enjoyed. 793 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,360 What do you think is the hardest thing? 794 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,480 Is it like imposter syndrome? Is it money and like real life 795 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,480 concerns? Or like, what hinders you from 796 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:22,080 really pursuing your art fully? I, I, I know exactly what it is. 797 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,520 It's, I have such a hard time separating like my work life and 798 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,800 my real life. Like I have a very good work 799 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,520 ethic and when I'm working, I'm going to put my all into it. 800 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:42,600 And so I had kind of gotten to the point where like when I can 801 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,680 tattoo full time, I can create while I'm not tattooing. 802 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,160 Like I'll be able to like put all my focus into that. 803 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,160 But you know, you know, how did you got to make money still? 804 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,840 And like, if I get a job, I've just getting up and staying on 805 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,040 the schedule and doing that kind of stuff. 806 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,160 I have to put my energy into that or I won't get that done 807 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,720 either. So it's kind of finding a happy 808 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,560 medium and being able to do both is so hard for me. 809 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,800 Yes, and that's kind of where I went with spirituality. 810 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,800 Like I would literally do everything for everyone else. 811 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,080 Like I'm like, why the fuck do I have all this energy that I'm 812 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200 pouring out? And it's just for money. 813 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,520 Like it was just and great. Gratefully I was able to like 814 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,800 pay off my car and pay off my student loans and pay off a lot 815 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920 of other debt and a lot of other things. 816 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,480 So like Spirit kind of told me like, we're going to make you 817 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,800 really busy to pay off all your debt. 818 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,200 And then it's going to be really quiet and you're going to go 819 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,760 into this thing where you're like, am I good enough? 820 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,600 Am I doing enough? Am I good enough? 821 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,520 Am I doing enough? And so I've kind of been there 822 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,680 where it's like trying to find that balance between like, OK, I 823 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,480 have a fucking job already. I'm working that, how do I keep 824 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,400 this fun? Because there was a time where 825 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,720 even the podcast with my previous business partner was 826 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,920 starting to feel like fucking work and starting to feel like 827 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,280 stressful. And for those that have a 828 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,040 podcast or even know about them, you don't make any money. 829 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,960 You spend more money than you're ever going to make on your 830 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:19,280 podcast unless you get to millions of streams a month. 831 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,480 Yeah. Well, you have that Spotify 832 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,720 ain't giving you shit. Like I think one of my friends 833 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:28,000 who's an artist averaged out like a million streams on one 834 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,680 song is like $3000 or less is all you're going to make off 835 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,880 that. Insane. 836 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,040 Yeah, because like 1,000,000 views on Snapchat is like 837 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,640 they're about to pay you a million. 838 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,320 They have like someone made the chart where like what 1,000,000 839 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,480 views on every platform means and like, the only one you're 840 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,120 actually getting paid on is Snapchat. 841 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,200 It's fucking hard to get 1,000,000 views on Snapchat 842 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,280 versus TikTok or Facebook. Not that hard. 843 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,880 I know I've had people actually ask me like how do you not have 844 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,680 money? Especially because I think I 845 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,520 only have like 13 followers right now. 846 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,280 It's actually so funny. Every time I post a picture of 847 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,880 me and my boyfriend you lose like 1000 followers. 848 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,040 It's I love watching it drop. It's hilarious to me. 849 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,880 But I think I started off with like 25,000 and people be like, 850 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,120 how do you don't have money? How do you don't have money? 851 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,240 I'm like, I don't know why you think just because I have 852 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,920 followers on a social media page and that means I'm making money. 853 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,600 Like that's not how that works. So many people are veiled by 854 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,800 that illusion. And like I've told people, 15 855 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,480 likes is a lot. Because if you have 15 people in 856 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,520 your fucking living room, in your car, on your health 857 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,120 insurance, maybe that's a lot. That's a lot of money. 858 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,120 That's a lot of people, you know, like if we have 15 people 859 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,160 in this room right now, it would be stressful. 860 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,760 Like it'd be like so much, so many people equate followers as 861 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,240 success, but I've noticed I've lost, I've blocked a lot of 862 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:59,040 people, but I've lost like 1000 followers because so many people 863 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,520 are like moving off of Meta and completely deleting their 864 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,560 platforms. And there's another option on 865 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,960 your follower count now where it'll show you how many people 866 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,560 have deactivated their profile. Oh yeah, yeah, I was talking 867 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,000 about that with my friend the other day. 868 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,200 It's so interesting. There's like hundreds of people 869 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,880 on that list. I think right now mine's sitting 870 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,200 at like 400 followers already activated. 871 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,040 So it deducts those from your follower account. 872 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,240 So I just think all of it's an illusion. 873 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,800 Like there's so many things. Like I remember when TikTok 874 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,080 first was popping they were paying like they were paying. 875 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,400 I had like 40,000 something followers. 876 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,360 It's the same followers I've had the whole time. 877 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,720 And I remember I used to get like $400.00 cash outs every 878 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:47,840 other month from TikTok, like, and, and what was great about it 879 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,560 is you did not have to give them your social and like all these 880 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,440 crazy fucking documents. And that's the thing with 881 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,440 Facebook and like Meta, I'm not giving you my government name. 882 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,120 I'm not giving you my Social Security number. 883 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,960 We're already threatening to ban my account anyways from what I'm 884 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,360 posting, so like, why do you want all this information from 885 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,360 me? Yeah, like, no, thank you. 886 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,360 I promise you, the moment social media starts requiring a fucking 887 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,600 authorization by your Social Security number, I'm out. 888 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,560 Because like AT&T already leaked every everyone's socials at the 889 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,880 beginning of the year. Like I'm good on it. 890 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,080 Like I am so good on Meta having that information. 891 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,960 Like I constantly am being invited to their creator 892 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,120 programs and I'm like the I. Know I still refuse to buy the 893 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,800 blue check because I'm like, I remember when that meant you 894 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,360 actually made it like you and that now you can just buy it 895 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,320 like I'm not buying that. No, I think that's fake, phony 896 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,320 loser shit. Like I had a lot of scammers and 897 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,240 a lot of fake profiles scamming people for money. 898 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,080 That would be the only reason it would make sense. 899 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,320 Yeah, would buy it. But I'm not giving you my 900 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,240 government name. I'm not putting my government 901 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:06,080 name on my profile because in order to get that you have to 902 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,400 put it on your profile. Yeah, no. 903 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,360 And I'm, I'm not doing that because I'm terrified to get a 904 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,720 stalker. Like I know what I'd be posting 905 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:16,120 online. Like I know, I know what it 906 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,920 draws. You know what I mean? 907 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,640 Yeah, I'm not my real name. I took so long ago. 908 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,680 I took my real name off of everything. 909 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,360 And like, it's funny people call me Lizard now because I think 910 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,080 some people don't even know what my real name is because I don't 911 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,400 have it anywhere. Yeah, and I think that's 912 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,240 honestly so important because women have to protect 913 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:39,960 themselves, especially now that we're starting to see that 914 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,680 literal stalkers are finding people from a reflection. 915 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,840 Yes. Phone or like the Starbucks 916 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,520 location that you posted, like you know there have been Tik 917 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,800 tokers that are like private investigators or whatever and 918 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,240 they're like, let me show you how easy it would be to find you 919 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,160 and they take your profile and they just randomly start 920 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,840 scrolling and they'll go OK here we'll start at the gym. 921 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,400 OK, so there's only 6 locations in the metropolitan area of this 922 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,040 gym. So you're at one of these six 923 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,760 locations. So now let's map your route. 924 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,800 OK, well let's narrow it down to two locations because they're 925 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,360 both on Dixie Highway and you hit the Scooter's coffee in the 926 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,800 middle of it. So you went to the right or the 927 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,520 left after that. OK, you hit this Kroger. 928 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,760 Well, now I've zeroed you into this box. 929 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,200 There were six and we were here and now you're here, and that's 930 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,800 the type of shit that makes me post things that confuse people. 931 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:41,040 No I literally those videos have like made me think about what I 932 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,680 post and when I post it too. I don't. 933 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,240 I used to post all the time, like like live I guess you would 934 00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,880 say like I, I took this picture I posted. 935 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,520 No, I'm not posting that till the next day, maybe two days 936 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,240 later cuz I'm gonna forget about it. 937 00:52:58,240 --> 00:52:59,720 And then I'm like, Oh yeah, that cute picture. 938 00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:02,560 I'm gonna post it like I have never post things on the day I 939 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,760 met. You will not know where I'm at 940 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,200 on that day, I can promise you. Yeah, like, I will have taken a 941 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,360 whole fucking vacation and not told anyone or posted anything. 942 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:15,960 And then I'll come home and be like, do not disturb. 943 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,360 And I'm like, not there anymore. You all. 944 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,760 Like, I am back at the crib. Like, that's the thing, though, 945 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,520 with social media especially, we've just become so 946 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,040 desensitized to these things. We're like, well, who would be 947 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,640 watching that? I'm at the Target and then went 948 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,320 to Starbucks and then hit, you know, Panera Bread afterwards. 949 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,280 Like, who's watching? I don't fucking know who's 950 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,320 watching, but I don't care. That's why I have a loaded gun. 951 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,080 But if all else fails, I'm going to make it confusing for you. 952 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,840 Like you're not just going to be able to know where I'm at and 953 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,640 there's weirdos out there that will like watch every move you 954 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,680 make and never say a word. Yeah, I mean, I haven't happened 955 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,360 to me in real life. Like, I've had people literally 956 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,280 see me at the gas station and start following me. 957 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,280 I'm not giving you an easier chance to get me, I can tell you 958 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,120 that. Yeah, I think so many people 959 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,920 don't understand what women go through on a daily basis with 960 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,360 social media. They don't, they don't. 961 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,800 And then they'll be like, oh, but you oppose, so you must want 962 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,960 that. It's like, well, maybe I just, I 963 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,800 just like taking a picture and I thought I was cute and I wanted, 964 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,320 you know what I mean? Like Lord Jesus, like I, I feel 965 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,640 like people forget this social media thing. 966 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,120 Like we were all just posting pictures we thought were cute at 967 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,320 first. Like we weren't. 968 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,640 We were posting it for our friends and our family. 969 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,280 We weren't trying to get a bunch of followers or like likes or 970 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,520 interaction. We weren't trying to go viral. 971 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,000 Like it was like oh look at this cute little picture I took. 972 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,280 So real, the way we're using social media is going to change 973 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,960 in the next couple years because I've been watching a lot of 974 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,120 people talk about like getting rid of their iPhone and like 975 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,600 getting a razor or like, and I've talked about this like I 976 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,120 have two phones, work pays for one and I pay for one for my 977 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,200 business. And I'm literally thinking about 978 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,720 taking my phone that I use the most and getting like a flip 979 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:17,120 phone, like straight up because I'm still going to have an 980 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,560 iPhone. But I'm literally wanting to 981 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,640 remove the constant accessibility of social media 982 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,160 from my life. I actually went without a phone 983 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,520 like phone service at all for two years and it. 984 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,240 All that you used to carry your iPad everywhere, right? 985 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,600 But that was so funny. So funny. 986 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,280 Yeah, No, it was actually hilarious. 987 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:47,120 It was wonderful and kind of awful at the same time. 988 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,600 Like I enjoyed the disconnection. 989 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,600 I loved being hard to get a hold of. 990 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,360 I loved when I got into the car. Like it when I didn't have 991 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,320 Wi-Fi, I what you couldn't get a hold of me. 992 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,400 I couldn't get a hold of anybody else either. 993 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,000 So when I was in my car, like I was vibing like and not like I 994 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,080 didn't I wasn't worried about nothing like when I would go out 995 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,480 and have I like to go out by myself, take myself out to eat, 996 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,960 go to dinner and go to a movie, do that kind of stuff. 997 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,520 When I was doing that, it was completely by myself and I loved 998 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,160 it. But then like my car would break 999 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:25,840 down and I'd have to walk to who and who knows where who had 1000 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,320 Wi-Fi so I could connect to the Wi-Fi so I could call someone to 1001 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,000 come pick me up. Or like maybe my money didn't go 1002 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,240 through and I couldn't check it because my Wi-Fi was, I didn't 1003 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,920 have Wi-Fi. So it like it sucks that you 1004 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,760 have to be connected somewhat still nowadays because that's 1005 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,800 the way the world is designed. Yes, and I talk about this so 1006 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,040 much about how, like the universe or the the world around 1007 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,800 us has changed around the Internet rather than the 1008 00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,120 Internet changing around us. We took it from this very 1009 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,320 stationary place that was like super fun and like we were 1010 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,960 fighting over it in the home computer or whatever. 1011 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,080 Yeah, it's like constant like, no, I don't want to fill out my 1012 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,400 fucking dentist forms on this computer right now or on this 1013 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,080 iPad. Like, I just want to sign in and 1014 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,400 see the dentist. Like I don't want to fill this 1015 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,640 out. And like even just like with 1016 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,880 like cosmetic procedures or just different things, like you got 1017 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,680 to sign forms before you even walk into the place. 1018 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,760 Like I don't like it. And the other thing about like 1019 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,080 the digital footprint, I really wonder if there was like some 1020 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,480 hard reset because like my, my space does not exist. 1021 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,800 Half the shit I've been on the Internet. 1022 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,040 My God. And I used to be able to find 1023 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:49,280 it, yeah, looking at it all the time, and it would crack me up 1024 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,240 because that was a different person. 1025 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:59,000 But it was like I could see it for years. 1026 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,200 I couldn't get into it. I didn't have like any way to 1027 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,000 get in, but I could like look up my name and find it and then all 1028 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,640 of a sudden I couldn't find it anymore. 1029 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,320 Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. 1030 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,760 I feel like they did some kind of hard reset on like most of 1031 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,880 the Internet and now they're like counting. 1032 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,320 Like now it's counting. And I, you know, there was this 1033 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,840 guy, I learned a lot on TikTok. There was a man that basically 1034 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,840 looks like you and me, covered in tattoos, super millennial, 1035 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,720 and he's hired by massive corporations to reverse search 1036 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,000 their applicants. Like that's his job. 1037 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,720 He literally like said that what stops people from getting the 1038 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,560 job 99% of the time is not the photos they posted. 1039 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,280 It's the random opinions and comments that they post on like 1040 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:54,040 CNN or WLKY or, you know, like screaming racist things, 1041 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,560 political slurs, you know, whatever it may be. 1042 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,840 Even just like men constantly harassing women. 1043 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,760 They were talking about that like someone had applied for 1044 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,960 this job. They had just got out of 1045 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,440 college. They were like top in their 1046 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,160 class. They went to a really 1047 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:14,880 prestigious school and they were now blacklisted from like 500 1048 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,040 Fortune 500 companies type thing because this network like 1049 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,400 whatever, whoever he works for expands the web and kind of like 1050 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:28,360 ropes in the big corporations. So basically you, you get 1051 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,320 blacklisted and it'll say why. And it's like she called this 1052 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,160 lady a fat racist slur. You know what I mean? 1053 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,560 Or like she said, these children should starve and die because 1054 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,680 they are racial slur or whatever. 1055 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,480 You know, like this really fucked up shit that you don't 1056 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,800 think anybody's going to see. You don't think that anyone saw 1057 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,280 you comment in the bag Lady got my food stamps for sale or 1058 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,120 whatever. Like you didn't think no one saw 1059 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,560 that shit. But this man, like he's like, 1060 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,760 even if you delete it, he can still find it. 1061 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,480 Yeah, I think people forget that everyone's like, oh, the 1062 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,960 Internet's not real. That's not real. 1063 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,040 Like, yes, you can be fake on the Internet, but Internet is 1064 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,000 real. Like you post this stuff, it 1065 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,280 does not go away. And also that you just, you 1066 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,840 shouldn't be saying stuff that you wouldn't say in real life 1067 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,840 anyways. Like if you're not that bold in 1068 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,760 real life, don't be that bold online. 1069 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560 That's crazy. That's really the problem. 1070 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:33,120 Is like the men that approach me online would never speak to me 1071 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,320 in person, like never once in their life. 1072 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,400 And then the men that I would like to approach me don't say 1073 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,720 shit at all. Like I'm like, why did this 1074 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,560 person feel like this was a good idea? 1075 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,520 And this person who actually has a shot won't say anything. 1076 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,560 Like they won't say nothing. Like, it's a really weird place 1077 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,920 because it gives people a false sense of entitlement, all sense 1078 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,240 of confidence. And then also people who really 1079 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,680 are good people are like, scared to put themselves out there too. 1080 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,200 Like, you know, I don't know what's going on with social 1081 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,240 media, but I did see that there's like, you know, like 1082 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,600 when you're in high school, they'll do like a poll that'll 1083 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,920 say, like, what do people want to be when they grow up? 1084 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,040 And like we used to say things like a nurse or a doctor or, you 1085 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,040 know, I want to be a musician or whatever or whatever. 1086 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,720 OK, cool. Well now on the pie chart, it's 1087 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,200 like 50 to 60% want to do something that's Internet based, 1088 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,480 like content creation or, you know, they want to make beats, 1089 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,200 they want to be a streamer, you know, whatever it is. 1090 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,360 And I'm not saying making beats isn't a career, but we do not 1091 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,200 need 60% of the next generation only wanting to do online based 1092 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,040 jobs. Not everybody gets to do that. 1093 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,880 No, like, no, like, like, I don't know. 1094 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,840 I saw and it was like we need more electricians and like 1095 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,520 plumbers and stuff like. Jobs, yes. 1096 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,040 Those jobs are literally what we need. 1097 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,760 And that's the reason those prices are going up. 1098 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,440 And like service type jobs are going up because AI is never 1099 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,520 going to be able to unclog your pipes, but it can replace you in 1100 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,640 other areas like data entry jobs or whatever. 1101 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,520 But at the end of the day, like AI is not going to replace 1102 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,960 artists. Artists need to evolve alongside 1103 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,440 AI. So what's your opinion on like 1104 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:32,360 AI art? I so AI art I see is a form of 1105 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,160 copying like cuz that's you're not creating that. 1106 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,040 Like you're caught, you're copying something like you have 1107 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,440 to put in like something that's already created into it so it 1108 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,000 can like morph it into something. 1109 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,600 However, I do love using AI as a tool. 1110 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,360 I do get like the guilt of the environment, like what it's 1111 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,920 doing to the environment. Also, like I'm one person in 1112 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,280 this world. Like everybody's doing it like 1113 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:05,520 it's like, so it's like that kind of like that environmental 1114 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,600 guilt gets me. But it is such a good tool for 1115 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,720 finding like references and things of that nature. 1116 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,480 I think that if there's a way we can like find a way for it not 1117 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,440 to be so detrimental to the environment, it could be an 1118 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,160 amazing tool. You know, speaking on that, I 1119 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,000 also went into a deep dark depression about the environment 1120 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,760 and how it was affecting the environment. 1121 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,360 And I know that it's a tool that's like inherently going to 1122 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,920 kind of mold and shape what you want to hear. 1123 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,080 But it was like, it was like, OK, so then you should also cut 1124 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,640 off Instagram and TikTok and all of these other platforms. 1125 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,320 They all like cooling towers and cooling capacity that's using 1126 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,600 water constantly. He said OK, so like you sat here 1127 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,160 and you watch 10 Reels, it's the same thing. 1128 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,560 Same. Thing those cooling towers, like 1129 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,920 you know, they're building that huge data center over in Indiana 1130 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,680 and it is fucking massive. You all if you all knew how much 1131 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,840 farmland it's taking to build that new meta data center, you'd 1132 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,720 be disgusted with yourself or even supporting their platform. 1133 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,720 But with that being said, like that's what's going to be housed 1134 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,560 there is like those cooling towers and capabilities. 1135 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,320 So do you all think that ChatGPT or other AI platforms are any 1136 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,800 different than meta integrating AI into fucking everything when 1137 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,360 you post a picture? We didn't even ask AI for their 1138 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,040 opinion but now there's like 5 little AI opinions at the 1139 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,520 bottom. Or Google you. 1140 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,080 You can't Google nothing without the AI thing popping up or what 1141 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,920 you know. And it's like you're you using 1142 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,880 it. Everybody's using it. 1143 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,720 And I have, that's something I really struggle with. 1144 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,960 Another one, like my one of my like side jobs that I do is 1145 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,760 Amazon Flex. And it like I make good money 1146 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,880 doing it. But like I'm like, Oh my God, 1147 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,720 like I'm delivering all this stuff this like, like I'm, it's 1148 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,480 just like not a bunch of trash, but like it's a bunch of stuff 1149 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,800 that's gonna be trash one day. Like it's like killing our 1150 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,520 planet, but here I am serving it on a platter. 1151 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:13,000 Like it's it's like hard to be stuck in this world but also 1152 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,920 have to function and be a part of it. 1153 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,240 Yeah, Spirit. Like I went into like this 1154 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,920 really deep, like plant medicine journey and I had not done 1155 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,920 mushrooms in a long time. And I went into this deep 1156 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,920 journey and during it I got really sad. 1157 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,600 Like I get really heavy. I always cry, but I was like 1158 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,840 really heavy and like weighed down by the state of the world. 1159 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,120 And Mother Earth was like, look, this is the plastic planet. 1160 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,200 They tell you that this is the only planet like yours, but it's 1161 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,560 not. And they were, she was like, and 1162 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,480 I'll flip this whole motherfucker over. 1163 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,680 She was like, do you hear me when I tell you I will flip this 1164 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,280 whole motherfucker over there. She was so serious with me and 1165 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,280 I'm just like crying and I'm just like upset and like I'm 1166 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,920 just feeling some type of way. And she's like, I will show you 1167 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,800 if I don't say that three days later we had like several 1168 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,600 tornadoes in Kentucky and then a fucking flood like all in the 1169 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,880 same like month that she told me she will flip this fucker over. 1170 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,480 I have tried to just completely keep my vibration high because 1171 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,080 there are so many things that we support every day unknowingly 1172 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,440 that are destroying the planet way more than AI. 1173 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,680 Or like I told someone else, like you all weren't worried 1174 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,000 about the kids in the Congo when they were picking mercury and 1175 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,000 lithium for your cell phone, but it was fine then, you know, like 1176 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,320 there's so many elements. But she was basically like 1177 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,400 telling me that this is the plastic planet. 1178 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,480 And then it was always designed to go in this direction. 1179 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,080 Like it was always designed for humans to like be their own 1180 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,920 demise. Like, it was always designed 1181 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,600 like that. And she was like, and I'm in 1182 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,880 control and you're here to raise the vibration of this place. 1183 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,000 She was like, I don't need you lowering your vibration because 1184 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,000 you're throwing away a water bottle or whatever. 1185 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,080 She's like, don't be over consumerist. 1186 01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,720 Like don't be a hyper consumerist. 1187 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,480 Don't feel like you need to upgrade your phone or upgrade 1188 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,000 every little thing. Like, and what she was saying 1189 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,440 was like so fucking real. And then boom tornadoes, boom 1190 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,400 flood. And people are like fighting for 1191 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,280 their life. And it really just made me 1192 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,840 realize that, like, natural disasters occur so nature can 1193 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,320 heal, because that is only when people realize that it's just 1194 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,440 fucking stuff. Yeah, yeah, No, going back to 1195 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,960 what you said about like the how it was like kind of designed to 1196 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,080 go this way. So funny you say that because 1197 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,360 literally today, like I'm driving, I'm delivering and you 1198 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,360 know, you on the road for hours. So I just like look around and 1199 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:47,960 like something I truly, truly hate our roads themselves. 1200 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:53,880 I think the way we designed them was so dumb to put this into our 1201 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,600 earth and our ground. Like and I was thinking and one 1202 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,560 day like what we have all these bridges, all these ramps, like 1203 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,960 we literally couldn't just build roads up and have earth 1204 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,920 underneath of it. Like why did we have to put it 1205 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,520 into our earth? And it's already there now. 1206 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,080 Like there's nothing we can do about it. 1207 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,520 Like we've already taken so much grass space, so much like like 1208 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,800 it's so dangerous for animals, like and that kind of stuff. 1209 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,880 Like it's so and it is what it is now. 1210 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,880 What are we going to do? Yeah, they're like widening the 1211 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,279 highway going toward Lexington and like down South. 1212 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,560 And it's honestly the only positive that I could see from 1213 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,040 it is that there used to be kind of a mini forest in the middle 1214 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,680 separating the roads, which was bad for the animals because if 1215 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,439 there's forest in the middle of a major roads, they're trying to 1216 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,080 make it to the middle. So the only positive I could see 1217 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,319 is that removing that middle is going to tell the animals it's 1218 01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:48,560 this side or that side, buddy. And you're not going to make it 1219 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,200 across 8 lanes right now. You need to, but I get so worked 1220 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,600 up over roadkill and like there's this quote from this 1221 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,800 poet that basically talks about in order for so many things to 1222 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:04,160 live, so many things must die. And that's like the one thing 1223 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,600 that keeps me like focused and going because I get so bent out 1224 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,800 of shape over roadkill. You would think it was my 1225 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:16,840 fucking pet out there. My mentor, she told me that when 1226 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,560 you see an animal on the side of the road, just ask nature 1227 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,240 spirits to like let their family know and to like deliver their 1228 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,640 spirit safely. I started doing that and it's 1229 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,840 really made me feel better because I saw a baby fox and it 1230 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,359 really broke my heart. And I was like, the foxes are 1231 01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:35,560 healing, They're thriving. I was like, everyone is safe. 1232 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,840 And like, I was just like, so like just feeling some type of 1233 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,439 way. But I do believe and like I do 1234 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,319 consent to the idea that like one person who's living in 1235 01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:48,560 alignment and keeping their vibration high really does 1236 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,399 counterbalance like 607 hundred thousand other people who are 1237 01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:57,120 not because we get so caught up in like low energy or high 1238 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,960 energy. But if you don't realize, like 1239 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,160 high energy can be excitement and it could be anger, low 1240 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,800 energy can be peace and it could be sadness. 1241 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,040 Like low or high is not the spectrum. 1242 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,520 It's the amplification of whatever vibration you're 1243 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,280 sending out. And I'm constantly trying to 1244 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,840 send out like the world is healing or we're all at peace. 1245 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,200 And so when Mother Earth was like, I am only going to tell 1246 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,040 you this once, like I will flip this whole fucker over. 1247 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,320 They were like, she was like the White House. 1248 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,440 I'll split it open in the middle, put it down in the hole. 1249 01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:31,120 Like she was like, sinkholes are my best friends. 1250 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,960 She was like, I'll open one. She was like, just stay focused. 1251 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,880 Like just keep your head up or whatever. 1252 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,520 And I swear to you, like within the next three weeks, the whole 1253 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:43,120 world was just like in jingles and like no regret. 1254 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:48,160 And you know, it made me realize that we are here to break free 1255 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,760 of the matrix around material and with natural disasters, as 1256 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,960 when people realize this is just fucking stuff. 1257 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,920 It's like as a kid, I survived the tornado. 1258 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,000 So I'm already like, I've paid my dues, Like I survived the 1259 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,280 tornado. I lived in a trailer. 1260 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,800 I am good. Like you don't get to do that to 1261 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,800 me again. Like I'm out. 1262 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,600 I'm out on that. But you know, that tornado that 1263 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:14,200 hit recently hit really close to a couple people I know, like, 1264 01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:18,520 yeah, miles away. It's crazy. 1265 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,200 I do believe that, like the that's spiritually, I think 1266 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,040 that's what I believe in the most is the earth itself. 1267 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,200 Like that, that is our God, that like this is literally what we 1268 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,160 live on. Like this is what we should be 1269 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:36,120 focusing on. Yes, I honestly think that like 1270 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:41,640 we as a collective have been divided because we have to see 1271 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,960 both ends of the coin. Like we have to see what hyper 1272 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,920 consumerism and capitalism and those things, what they're 1273 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,200 doing. And what's crazy is like, even 1274 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,800 like, you know, 50 years ago, people made a lot at home. 1275 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,880 They homesteaded, they grew their own food. 1276 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,520 Like it only took two generations to completely rob US 1277 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,360 of like survival skills. And I'm just, I'm just flat out 1278 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,960 like if there is some kind of crazy thing, I'm good. 1279 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,320 I'm going to be with God. I'm going to be with the God. 1280 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,440 Me out. I. 1281 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,920 I like literally first of all, like I'd get my nails done. 1282 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,800 Like what do you want me to not do my nails anymore? 1283 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,920 You want me to let these grow out and then I'm pop a nail and 1284 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:28,040 I'm going to and then I'm gonna have a broken nail in what, like 1285 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,480 this awful state? Like no, Take Me Out. 1286 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,840 Yeah, like, I just like when you see movies of like, people like 1287 01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:38,320 trying to survive. I'm just like, I ain't me. 1288 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,840 Like I saw this thing and it was talking about how to survive a 1289 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,160 nuclear explosion. I saw that. 1290 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,760 I saw good. Like I've read it. 1291 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,920 And like by step three, I'm like, bro, first of all, you got 1292 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,240 30 seconds to do all this. My favorite part is when they 1293 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,320 said that you should bag up your chimneys and all the vents to 1294 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,080 your home. Yeah, while while you're staying 1295 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,320 away from all the windows, like, what do you want from me? 1296 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,480 It sounds like you have to prepare your shit. 1297 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,480 And The thing is, is if you seal up every like crevice of your 1298 01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:12,280 home, you're literally going to have CO2 in your home. 1299 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,240 Like, you're literally going to flood your house with CO2 now. 1300 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,960 I don't know, Like the Internet, obviously, I see a lot of that 1301 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,240 stuff. And, you know, they're doing it 1302 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,320 for views. Yeah. 1303 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,080 For attention. Like none of what they're saying 1304 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,800 is even like plausible, honestly believe that like in that type 1305 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,440 of scenario, only the people who have been preparing like 1306 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:36,600 underground bunkers, rich people, whatever. 1307 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,000 Like they're going to be OK. But like, I just feel at this 1308 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,400 point I did not come here to suffer. 1309 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,760 So the moment that suffering becomes the prominence of my 1310 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,280 experience, nothing. I'm I'm going back like. 1311 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,400 Enough of it. Yeah, like I've already suffered 1312 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,360 enough. Like choosing to come here 1313 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,840 during this timeline as a woman. We've already suffered like we 1314 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,240 we've done it you. Got it. 1315 01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:03,560 Yes, it's like they still are trying to like make women 1316 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,400 suffer. Like truly. 1317 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,320 And I love watching rebellious women like yourself. 1318 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,680 They're like, no, fuck that. Like that's kind of how I see 1319 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,040 you. And like, I see that reflection 1320 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,240 of like, other women who are just like, yeah, fuck the system 1321 01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:20,560 even, like you said, like even just to be able to take a year 1322 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,040 off work and survive off of only fans or your own art or your own 1323 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:31,080 passion, that's a fucking win. Like, so people, they're afraid 1324 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,760 of that. What do you say is like the 1325 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,080 hardest thing for you right now to transition into this next 1326 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:44,960 chapter with like tattooing? Honestly, finding a space to 1327 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,600 tattoo in. So me and my mentor, we were 1328 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,640 working in a shop together, like I said, and then my boss decided 1329 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,000 not to. We got a spot and then, you 1330 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,200 know, it really just didn't work out. 1331 01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:03,760 And we're kind of like Louisville has such hard like 1332 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,920 restrictions for like tattooing space, Like there has to be a 1333 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,480 certain type of plumbing. And then that means you have to 1334 01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:14,760 have and you have to have a master plumber come in and do 1335 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,000 it. You can't just have a plumber 1336 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,760 come and do it. You have to have someone who you 1337 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,240 know, is a master plumber. So it's going to cost an arm and 1338 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,720 a leg to get it done and that and it has to have all these 1339 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,000 restrictions. So we finally got up, space up 1340 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,160 and then that didn't work out. We're like, well, maybe we could 1341 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,760 go to Indiana where they, you know, you can have sinks, but 1342 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,480 they don't have to be done by a master plumber and everything. 1343 01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:40,640 But now we've decided we're going to do a mobile studio. 1344 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,840 So that's really cool. It's just recently, I guess, 1345 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,920 become legal in Kentucky and we're gonna get an RV and 1346 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,440 renovate it and like drive around and be tattooing. 1347 01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:56,040 And so that's really exciting. So it's just kind of like 1348 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:01,120 building up the funds for the renovation on that and doing all 1349 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,800 that. And it's like you kind of got to 1350 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,120 play the corporate game to get to a point where you don't have 1351 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,400 to play that game. Yes, I like I went to college 1352 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,520 and I did business and marketing with communications and I have a 1353 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,920 bachelor's in it and it has helped me so fucking much with 1354 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,960 my business and my social like presence because I do everything 1355 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,840 the legal way. Like I do everything the right 1356 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,880 way. Yeah, like I'm not playing any 1357 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,600 games. Like you will go to jail. 1358 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,680 Like they will you to jail over over tax evasion. 1359 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,320 Or and be I'd be damned if I can't tattoo no more because I 1360 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,240 didn't pay a master plumber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1361 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,440 They really do, like make it so hard for small business owners. 1362 01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:50,400 And that's what I think that is something that's going to shift 1363 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,560 in this next reality because so many people are tired of working 1364 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,120 a job they hate, buying shit they don't need. 1365 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,360 That does not make them happy. And I'm seeing such a shift in 1366 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,520 people like, yeah, I don't need that. 1367 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,360 No, I'm not doing that. Yeah, no, for real. 1368 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,600 We were just me and my friends are talking about like, we're 1369 01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,480 what happened to house parties. Why aren't we doing house 1370 01:17:11,480 --> 01:17:13,760 parties anymore? Like I'm tired of like paying 1371 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,800 $20 to get into this place just to stand around and stare at 1372 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,720 people like, you know what I mean? 1373 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,840 Like, I think I do also kind of feel that shift where people are 1374 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,960 wanting to like not consume as much anymore. 1375 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,840 Yeah, like I have been on like the don't buy anything. 1376 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,240 So what I've been doing is like, I'll go to the website, I run up 1377 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,640 a cart for my e-mail and stuff and then they'll start sending 1378 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,560 me coupons. And then if I'm still thinking 1379 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,800 about it like weeks later. So I started out, I found this 1380 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,600 Dooney and Bourke purse I really wanted. 1381 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,640 I've known a Dooney and Bourke since I was like 12. 1382 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,640 But if my inner child really wanted it, I was just feeling 1383 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,480 it. I was like, I need this. 1384 01:17:53,480 --> 01:17:55,600 It's rainbow, it's art deco. It's really pretty. 1385 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,440 So I see it. It's $400.00. 1386 01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:02,400 I'm like, fuck, no. So weeks, months go back, I get 1387 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,560 an ad. And I didn't realize, but Dooney 1388 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,560 and Bourke has like their main website, kind of like coaches, 1389 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,400 but they also have an online outlet website. 1390 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,320 I'd be named if that purse isn't 70% off. 1391 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:17,240 Isn't that crazy? On that website, so just adding 1392 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:18,960 it to cart and interacting with it. 1393 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,840 They then sent me the the cheap site. 1394 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,800 So we're talking like a 400 and something dollar bag and they 1395 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,720 got it on here for like 140. But if I signed up for their 1396 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,360 emails they would give me an additional 25% off and free 1397 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,400 shipping. See, that makes me mad because 1398 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,480 that just tells me that that's what it could cost. 1399 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,800 There you go. And I end up getting it for like 1400 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,920 121 out the door. And I just like, changed over to 1401 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,880 it today and it's red on the inside. 1402 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,520 It's leather. And they have a warranty for one 1403 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,160 year, which no purses do that anymore. 1404 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,560 And it's like all leather and it's so perfect. 1405 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,280 And so I'm like that the long game of like, not just 1406 01:18:55,280 --> 01:19:00,040 impulsively buying does pay off. Like people in previous 1407 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,720 generations used to have to save their money. 1408 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,160 It wasn't all like Klarna and Afterpay, you know. 1409 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,560 No, I can't get involved in that. 1410 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,960 I can't do credit cards or none of that. 1411 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,920 I when I was in my 20s, I wrecked myself. 1412 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,880 Let me tell you, I'm still building back up from that. 1413 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,080 Well, if you ever need a credit lesson, I'm like so good at 1414 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,120 credit. Like my score is like 830 and 1415 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,960 every month it'll either go down 4 points or go up two or three. 1416 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,200 So like this month I made a huge payment on my condo because I'm 1417 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,160 trying to pay it off and it went down 4 points. 1418 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,800 And so I texted my dad and he goes, he said don't worry about 1419 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,280 it. He said debt is slavery and they 1420 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,720 want you enslaved. And I'm like, I don't know. 1421 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,960 I was like, I know. It was no, it was way too easy 1422 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,880 for me to get a credit card when I was younger. 1423 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,160 It was way too easy. I had like 7 of them and I did 1424 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,400 not understand. I did not. 1425 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,040 I did. I do have a lot of credit cards, 1426 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,280 but I've always been really mindful of them. 1427 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,480 But whenever I first got my first card, it was a Victoria's 1428 01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:05,400 Secret credit card. I would be in there. 1429 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:11,160 They are the OGI at least will spend a couple $100 there a year 1430 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,160 just so they don't close my account because it's my oldest 1431 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:21,080 credit account which matters. So I like this month I spent $13 1432 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,720 and I got a text and it was like a dormant account has been 1433 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,160 active and I hope on it and it was Victoria's Secret but like 1434 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,640 they had no business in giving me an $8000. 1435 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:36,600 No, no, I think the first rented car I ever got was a $5000 limit 1436 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,880 and I was barely 20. What in the world? 1437 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,880 But The thing is, is like they keep you enslaved with that 1438 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,920 instead of focusing your 20s on saving money, paying off a car 1439 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:52,360 and maybe getting a house to pay, Yeah, interest rate. 1440 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,360 And you're still trying to build back from it. 1441 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,280 Yeah. Basically a whole nother bill 1442 01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,280 for every month. Just. 1443 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,680 Harder. Yeah, I'm like really good at 1444 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,120 credit, but I'm very much on like you got to pay it off. 1445 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,560 Like you can't just spend like we got to pay it and like. 1446 01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:11,480 Have to. You literally have to. 1447 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,520 Like paying it off every month is the requirement because I am 1448 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,960 not paying interest like baby, I will not pay any fees or any 1449 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,360 interest. But the thing for me is I got 1450 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,800 the credit card that gets flight points through Southwest. 1451 01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:29,120 That's where it's at because I spend money on there, but then I 1452 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,360 get free flights, so it's like it's a win. 1453 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,800 Yeah, you get your money back out of that. 1454 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,240 I get my money back, plus I don't pay any fees at all like I 1455 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,440 have it. Like like I said, my credit is 1456 01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:45,080 so good that I get penalized for paying things off. 1457 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,920 I get penalized. I think that is so stupid. 1458 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,800 Yes I think that it's such a scam because like how do you 1459 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,840 make a mass payment towards a big loan and you take my shit 1460 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,200 down 4 points. No, literally like I did 1461 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,160 something good and you're they're. 1462 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,640 Like they're like, no, fuck her, she's doing good. 1463 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,640 And like actually now people don't realize, but you'll get a 1464 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:15,120 better loan with like a 600 to 700 credit score. 1465 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,960 Because when you get over 750 and you go into the 800's, they 1466 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,160 know I'm going to pay that loan. They know they're not going to 1467 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,120 get any interest out of me, so they don't want to give it to 1468 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,000 me. Yeah. 1469 01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:27,280 They're like all right miss thing you thought you were 1470 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,640 popping your shit, pay cash for it then no. 1471 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,560 But then you you're like, oh, I only make 30,000 a year and my 1472 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,920 credit score is 6612 for like give her 7500. 1473 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,080 Yeah. Give her 12. 1474 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,560 We're like, Are you sure you don't want more? 1475 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,320 Because we'll give it to you. We will. 1476 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,240 That's how they keep people enslaved, whether it's like 1477 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,680 student loans or credit cards. There is no reason that you're 1478 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,960 giving those to 18 year olds. No, it's so crazy. 1479 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,440 It it really does set people up for failure. 1480 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:03,040 And that's my one like preaching moment is whenever I got out of 1481 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,880 college, I had $70,000 in student loans and my payment, 1482 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,840 what they said I had to pay was like 80 bucks a month. 1483 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,400 If I would have been paying 80 bucks a month for the last 15-10 1484 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,720 fifteen years, I would still have more debt than I took out. 1485 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,440 Yeah. So what I did is I stayed living 1486 01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:24,680 at my grandma's for like a year, rented this ghetto little house 1487 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,400 that didn't even have air. It got broken into as soon as I 1488 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,920 moved in, like just ghetto because I was trying to like pay 1489 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,240 that off. And I was able to do that. 1490 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,840 But it's like it wasn't easy. And when people are like, I make 1491 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,640 my payments, that's not enough. I mean, they give you the lowest 1492 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,760 amount so that you pay the most an interest. 1493 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:47,760 Did you like go to art school or do anything like how did you get 1494 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,640 into your art? I honestly. 1495 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:56,080 I was going to go to the Art Institute of Cincinnati for 1496 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,560 college. And then like, my family kind of 1497 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,280 convinced me to, they didn't want me to leave. 1498 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,520 They want me to stay close. So they convinced me to stay 1499 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,760 home. So I never ever got into it 1500 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,240 professionally. I you know, but I've always been 1501 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,080 in the service industry and doing that. 1502 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,160 I've never thought of art as a career until I started getting 1503 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,520 into tattooing. Like I said, that's something 1504 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,800 that kind of drawed me. I thought about doing graphic 1505 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:25,160 design, but I don't love the corporate end of corporateness 1506 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,560 of it. I like, I like to draw titties 1507 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:33,440 and ass, you know what I mean? Like it's like super like dark, 1508 01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:39,600 Moody adult themes like I and that's not really, it's hard to 1509 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,400 make a living doing something like that unless like you find 1510 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,520 like people that like your niche or like Patreon or something 1511 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,120 like that. You can't get like a real job 1512 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,240 doing that. Until I got into tattooing and 1513 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,640 I'm like, oh, I can draw what I want on the side and then people 1514 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,400 are probably going to get that tattooed on them. 1515 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,600 And then also I get to collaborate with somebody else 1516 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,720 and design something for them. So I got two things I need you 1517 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,920 to draw me some stickers. I will pay you. 1518 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,280 I need I got you sticker designs. 1519 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,800 Another thing is I saw this girl who's like an A big artist like 1520 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,280 TikTok viral type artist and I went to her website, right? 1521 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,120 And I'm looking at her art. This woman is delusional. 1522 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,960 For one, not about her prices. She had this thing and it was 1523 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,720 called a a tattoo release price. Yeah, what? 1524 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,520 The fuck's this? She literally expects people who 1525 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,600 want to get her art tattooed to pay her like 20 or $30 to 1526 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,000 release the the image. Girl you already put the image 1527 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,400 out there. I'm not trying to steal your 1528 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,840 work. I'm not being a hater on your on 1529 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,240 your your skills. But baby girl you already put it 1530 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:52,640 out there if you didn't watermark it or make it like you 1531 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:53,560 know what I mean? How are you? 1532 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,080 What's your opinion on that? Is that normal? 1533 01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,480 I mean, I've seen a lot of artists doing it. 1534 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,120 I personally like it's, it's kind of like, would I like to 1535 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:05,840 get paid for people using by design? 1536 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,960 Sure. Do I think me putting it out 1537 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,880 there, I'm going, I'm going to get that every time. 1538 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,760 No, like that's not how that works. 1539 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,120 This is literally one. It's the Internet. 1540 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,880 You don't know where this has come from. 1541 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,800 You don't know. It's so hard to find the 1542 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,040 original artist sometimes. Like you can't like, you know, 1543 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:28,400 all this stuff, It's like if you are going to screenshot and get 1544 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,880 somebody's work tattooed on you, you already know you're going to 1545 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,080 do that. Like, you know, if it's kind of 1546 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,880 like if you wanted to get something original, you would go 1547 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,160 to an artist and do that. So it's kind of like a catch to 1548 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,480 like, I get where the artist is coming from, but you can't 1549 01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:43,280 expect that to happen every time. 1550 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,280 Like people are just, they're going to steal your shit. 1551 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,640 People have been stealing art since art. 1552 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,800 Yeah, and that's like with Pinterest, you know, like when 1553 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,960 you look things up on Pinterest, it just pops things up, you 1554 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,440 know? And the thing I love about my 1555 01:26:56,440 --> 01:27:00,880 artist is he's always like, I'll reference this photo, but I'm 1556 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,240 going to draw you a new one. Like even if it's a spider web 1557 01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,400 or something really basic, he still drew it specifically for 1558 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,720 my body. That's the sign of a good 1559 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,320 artist. Like if they are like, if if you 1560 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:17,120 bring in a piece of paper and you're like, hey, I want exactly 1561 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:22,520 this and I have where I bought it from the artist, the tattoo 1562 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,160 art that like that kind of in the tattoo artist's eyes, 1563 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:26,800 they're not going to have any. They're going to be like, cool, 1564 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,000 let's do it. But if you bring something to 1565 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,680 somebody and the tattoo artist isn't like, Hey, can I change 1566 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,840 this up a little bit? Can we like, you know, make it 1567 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,520 yours? If they're not doing that, 1568 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,400 they're not a good artist. They're they're just going to 1569 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,640 slap somebody else's stuff on you and then it's probably not 1570 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,480 going to look great. It's not going to be for your 1571 01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:48,000 body that kind of like you said, you got to draw it to people's. 1572 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:53,040 Yeah, and that's like why I feel so grateful that I do have 1573 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,800 Quentin to do my tattoos because I can trust him. 1574 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,080 I've came to him with ideas and he's like, won't heal well, 1575 01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,720 don't look good. Like I end up getting this huge 1576 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,120 butterfly on my hand because I wanted a really small one on my 1577 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,720 thumb and he was like, absolutely not. 1578 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,560 That will heal like shit. He was like, he wanted to look 1579 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,160 good. Or do you want just this little 1580 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,840 Pinterest thing, you know, or whatever? 1581 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,240 Like that's what I love about him and when I send people to 1582 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,760 him, he's never just going to take your money. 1583 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,680 Like even when it comes to like tattooing names, he has a policy 1584 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,880 that like, he won't do it unless you wait a month after your 1585 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,920 first request. Like if you come back in a month 1586 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,600 and you are dead set, he's like, I'll do it. 1587 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,680 He's like same thing with people's faces. 1588 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,040 But he did say that he stopped turning people away the more 1589 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,640 mainstream face tattoos have gotten. 1590 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,560 Yeah, he. Grew up in like, you know, the 1591 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,440 tattoo Charlie era. No hands, no neck, no face. 1592 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,200 Yeah, he takes that serious. Like he, he's always taking that 1593 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,600 pretty serious. And he's pretty much, I think 1594 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,560 there's like some kind of checklist. 1595 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:57,760 It's like, do you have your chest? 1596 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,400 No, no face tattoo. Do you have two sleeves? 1597 01:29:00,440 --> 01:29:02,480 No, no, no face tattoo or whatever. 1598 01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:05,720 Like he's got a checklist. But he did say that he started 1599 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,800 taking on those requests because he realized that those people 1600 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,120 were just going to go and get it somewhere else. 1601 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:16,080 Shitty on her face. Me and my mentor have talked 1602 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,920 about too because she feels the same way. 1603 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,600 Like she she's going to tell you she doesn't want to do it and 1604 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,120 she's going to tell you why. However, if you are super 1605 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,160 adamant that you want it, she is going to go ahead and do it 1606 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:33,560 because she is does phenomenal fine line tattoos and a lot of 1607 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,120 face tattoos need to be fine line and a lot of people cannot 1608 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,640 do fine line tattoos. That's one of the you can do. 1609 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,000 So she and that's kind of like it's like, are you going to take 1610 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,440 this client and do something that maybe they'll regret? 1611 01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:49,600 Yeah. But it's also not going to be as 1612 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,080 bad as it is if they go to somebody that's just going to do 1613 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,080 it, not even question it, they're like, yeah, sit down, 1614 01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,480 let's blast this out. Yeah, and you know, I really do 1615 01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:03,840 feel like people get shit without thinking it through 1616 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,040 because I didn't start getting tattoos till Kovid hit is when I 1617 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,960 started really getting my leg sleeves and really getting 1618 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,680 tattooed. But I had little tattoos 1619 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,160 previously and I've covered most of them up. 1620 01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,720 Like you know what I mean? Like when you get shit when 1621 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,400 you're like 18/19/20, you're just probably not going to like 1622 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,320 it when you're 35. Like you're just not. 1623 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,920 It's just how you're you know, like if I could have gotten 1624 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:31,280 tattooed at 18, I would have had nautical fucking stars, probably 1625 01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,120 a sun around my belly button. Fucking we always make a joke 1626 01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:39,040 about like the the Browning, like deer symbol of like the God 1627 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,480 deer and the girl deer. I'm like, probably would have 1628 01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:44,080 had one of those like shit that should have just been a bumper 1629 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:45,960 sticker would have been on my body. 1630 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:52,000 No, I'm actually pretty lucky that I don't have stuff like 1631 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,600 that. I feel like that might have to 1632 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,040 lean into me always kind of being an artist. 1633 01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:00,200 I've always kind of every tattoo I did ask, I'm not going to lie, 1634 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,640 I started getting tattoos when I was 17. 1635 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:07,840 I went to some guy's house and got a little Infinity tattoo and 1636 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,560 that's the only one where I'm like, yeah, yeah, I could. 1637 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,720 I could have not done that one. I still have it though, because 1638 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,080 I got it for my grandma, so I'm not going to cover it up. 1639 01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:20,720 But all my other ones, I just kind of wanted something that 1640 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,480 was more for me, so I would take an inspiration and then draw it 1641 01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:27,960 myself. So I kind of, I already had my 1642 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,240 work on me so I haven't covered everything, but I do kind of 1643 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:35,840 regret getting color tattoos because it hurts to sit for 1644 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,880 these motherfuckers. Yeah, I know that you have like 1645 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,760 a lot of like hippie ish tattoos. 1646 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,320 Like tie dye is one of my favorite things. 1647 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,360 Don't you have a lava lamp too? Yeah, I have a lava lamp. 1648 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,200 I'm actually working on another app. 1649 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:52,080 My whole my whole side is tie dye and I just said that 1650 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:56,120 actually is a cover up, but that's it was like an unfinished 1651 01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:57,800 tattoo. So I was like, fuck it, cover 1652 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,160 with color. So we cover that up with color. 1653 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:04,240 And then my second cover up that I'm working on now I'm doing on 1654 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,360 myself and it's on my knee and I didn't know. 1655 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,440 I don't love the Rose on my knee. 1656 01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:11,240 I don't love the artist that did it. 1657 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,560 So I was like, I don't know what I want on my knee. 1658 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,400 I already have this giant red rose. 1659 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,680 Like I can't like if I could go back I would probably get 1660 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,440 something that like wrapped around my knee instead of 1661 01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:26,520 covering it whole because damn that hurts but I'm tattooing a 1662 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:31,000 tie dye over it myself. I would imagine that tattooing 1663 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,880 yourself is its own kind of spicy because your brain has to 1664 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:36,880 work. Like when I'm getting tattooed, 1665 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:40,800 I can just turn off my brain and breathe and like focus on the 1666 01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,440 wall or the art. But like, when you're doing it 1667 01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:46,320 yourself, I can only imagine that that takes a level of 1668 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,120 patience that a lot of people don't have. 1669 01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:51,480 It yeah, it takes me well, especially because I'm just 1670 01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:54,320 starting out and I haven't been tattooing for too long. 1671 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,840 I'm slow. Like bottom line, I am so slow 1672 01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,280 and I cannot get a lot done in a lot of time. 1673 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,440 So it's like I'm tattooing on my knee for an hour and a half and 1674 01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:07,800 I have like one line on me. So it's like it's kind of 1675 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:13,360 frustrating that way pain wise. Maybe the tattoo artist that did 1676 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,280 it was a lot heavier handed than me. 1677 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:20,000 I'm taking it easier this time with me doing it. 1678 01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,200 People have tattooed. They've all said I'm very light 1679 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,800 handed. I'm like kind of just bounce. 1680 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,160 I'm have the problem where I don't like get the ink in all 1681 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,640 the way sometimes. Like I'm not going deep enough. 1682 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,920 So I'm like super light handed. Yeah, you're like, I'm barely 1683 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,280 even touched. I'm barely like I'm like I've 1684 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,680 gotten to the point now where I can get it solid, but when I 1685 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:44,000 first started doing it, like I like my poor cousin, his tattoo 1686 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,680 would heal and the ink wasn't in and I'm like, sorry, we don't 1687 01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:51,200 have to go back into. That like, yeah, by the way, 1688 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,240 we're gonna have to go back in. We're going back into that. 1689 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,120 Well, fix it look good, but it's going to take several times. 1690 01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,760 I love this so much. This has been such a great 1691 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,240 interview. I'm really grateful that you 1692 01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,720 chose to come on and talk with us today. 1693 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,480 If you had a message to leave everyone with, what would it be? 1694 01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:10,800 A message to leave everyone with. 1695 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,560 You know, just keep doing what you're doing. 1696 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,640 We're doing the best we can out here. 1697 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,840 We all are, you know, try to keep a happy outlook on 1698 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:25,680 everything and just keep doing the damn thing. 1699 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:27,840 Throwing up. That's all you can do you. 1700 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,120 Can do like I've had a couple of hard days this past week myself, 1701 01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:33,840 but you know, I'm getting back into it. 1702 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,040 I've actually got my iPad right behind me. 1703 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,000 I'm going to draw after I get off here. 1704 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,000 So kind of get get into the doing what you need to do. 1705 01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,120 Oh yeah? Well, thank you so much, Lizard 1706 01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:46,920 Queen. Thank. 1707 01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,440 You thank you for inviting me. We can. 1708 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,480 We'll have all of her stuff at the bottom in the bio of the 1709 01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:55,880 description so you can follow her on social media, buy some of 1710 01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:00,240 her artwork and tap in with her and see if she's going to post 1711 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,200 any more of those thirst traps for you all. 1712 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,880 And we will see you next time in Candyland. 1713 01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:10,080 Bye bye. Welcome to Candyland, spicy and 1714 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,880 sweet. You're in for a tree. 1715 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:17,160 You're wildest trees. Got gun drops of knowledge and 1716 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:22,800 liquorice too Plump. Fancy picking for me and you, 1717 01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,080 Candyland. 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