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Welcome to fucking Dandy land 
hosted by Rampage and Gemini. 

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What's up everybody? 
Welcome back to Candyland. 

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We have a guest today. 
Yes, welcome to Shannon. 

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We are so excited. 
This episode is really going to 

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Encompass where the spiritual 
journey takes everyone on a 

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different path, but somehow we 
all meet back in the middle. 

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So welcome Shannon. 
Introduce yourself. 

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Hello everyone. 
I am Shannon. 

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I'm very happy to be here. 
And thank you both so much for 

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having me because I really 
appreciate it and I'm very 

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excited. 
So, a little bit about my 

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journey so to speak. 
I know that I think you have a 

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similar background. 
As I do Gemini that I was raised

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in a very, very Christian home 
and that kind of was my 

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background for pretty much my 
entire life. 

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And then kind of during the 
pandemic, when stuff shut down 

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and I said, R time to myself and
things like that. 

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I was getting, I've always been 
like very spiritual just as a 

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child and just, you know, 
throughout my life. 

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But I guess I just never really 
was very taboo. 

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You know what I mean? 
It was very taboo to my parents 

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is very taboo. 
And my upbringing, my extended 

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family, whatever. 
So, I just never really was 

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outspoken about. 
It was more of like an internal 

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thing and things like that, and 
things that I was just 

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interested in and drawn to that,
I was like, oh, I'm not supposed

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to like that, you know what I 
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But, during the pandemic, And 
you know, I had a lot more time 

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to myself. 
I was like really getting into 

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more of a spiritual practice. 
I always had tarot cards that I 

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like hid away, but I was more so
just like did that like on my 

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own for fun and like, things 
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But I really started to dive 
into the Bible because I was 

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just like, oh, like I'm going to
like really read my Bible and 

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really like, you know what I 
mean, beyond my faith because 

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now I have no excuse to not 
like, you know what I mean? 

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Like, the super diligent about 
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And the more and more, I read. 
Read the more and more, I 

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deconstruction deconstructed 
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So it's actually ironic because 
it was like I was trying to get 

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deeper into my faith of 
Christianity and it actually 

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like made me deconstruct by 
doing that. 

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And it's not that I don't 
believe in any of those things 

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anymore or any of those 
constructs or anything like 

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that. 
Like, I think that there is, you

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know, valuable Vibe like 
information in the Bible. 

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I think that, you know, The 
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you can always take those 
lessons to heart for sure. 

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But it was just more of a didn't
believe in the patriarchal Jesus

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that I was raised to believe in 
and just how the church is, I 

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completely walked away from the 
church just because I just saw 

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so many flaws and holes in it 
even growing up but then that 

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was just like kind of like the 
breaking point for me and I will

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say that I think I've heard you 
talk about this before that. 

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You do have a Jesus was the 
which shirt. 

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So I was wondering if maybe we 
can talk about me getting one of

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those if I will. 
I'm just going to plug you right

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here. 
Because I did hear that. 

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I'm one of your episodes, and I 
was like, oh, I gotta ask her 

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about that because I do really 
want one of those shirts if 

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that's possible. 
I do have. 

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Yeah, that's on my merch line 
and we can totally talk and I 

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can get something sent out to 
you. 

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I do have the Jesus was a wet 
shirt and actually, you said 

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something that I haven't heard 
anybody out, like, out of 

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everybody. 
I've talked to, I haven't heard 

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you all start the same 
experience with me where you 

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like were like, oh, will let me 
dive deeper into the Bible when 

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you were trying to You're out 
your spirituality and that was 

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something that I did for me. 
Like I downloaded Bible apps and

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all kinds of stuff because being
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it's always you don't feel a 
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Well, that's because you're not 
understanding his word and 

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you're doing it incorrectly. 
And so, when I was trying to 

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find my spirituality, the more 
that I do then to my gift of 

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mediumship, the more that I 
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that I was told growing up and 
And went to find safety like in 

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the Bible and figuring things 
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And I realized that, no matter 
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scripture and things it. 
Did it make me agree with what I

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was reading. 
It just made me feel like, I 

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always felt like I was searching
for something that I couldn't 

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find. 
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give you a moment to like let 
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I understand how much strength 
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yourself. 
Through that because that really

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is. 
You have to have such a like 

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motivating mindset and really 
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and your spirituality. 
And and it's hard to find your 

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own way and so like, I commend 
you on being able to do that 

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especially if you didn't have 
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we're supporting you at that 
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Yeah, definitely not definitely 
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And like it was a hard. 
It was even like a morning in a 

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grieving process for me because 
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Oh, up. 
That was what I base my entire 

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life on. 
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So it's just, like, that's 
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your everything. 
So it was almost like a grieving

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process for me that it was just 
like, oh, I had spent so much 

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time, you know, focused on this 
thing that's no longer real or 

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no longer, you know, what? 
I thought it was and it's just 

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like it's almost like grieving a
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And it's like but then 
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after that. 
And now my relationship with God

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or Source or whatever you want 
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It is so much stronger than it 
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He's doing all the right things 
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or so, whatever you want to call
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So it's really interesting how 
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transpired. 
I mean, that's like a very 

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generalized version of my story 
but like it's just very 

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interesting how much closer I do
feel to, you know, a higher 

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power and to heaven on Earth or 
what, however, you want to look 

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at it. 
But it's just like, all of the 

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things that I grew up believing,
it's not necessarily that they 

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weren't true. 
I just see them in a different, 

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totally different way. 
Now that makes it's sense to me 

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and I also feel like 
Christianity and just religion 

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in general. 
It's like it makes God separate 

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from you. 
It makes you look outside of 

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yourself for for for 
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Which I feel like is the 
opposite of what we need as 

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people is like no, you need to 
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for fulfillment and like that 
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Like, we're all one at the end 
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were saying it's like you feel 
disconnected. 

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Well, that's why you feel 
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what you're taught your whole. 
Is that all that stuff is 

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outside of you all that stuff is
separate from you and that's not

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true. 
And I learned that, you know, 

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through different experiences 
that I've had and it's been, 

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it's been, it's been a rough 
road but it's been. 

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It's been a, it's been a good 
experience for Me, overall, like

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the deconstruction process and 
just, you know, finding myself 

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every single day, all over 
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So, yeah. 
Thank you. 

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I have a question. 
So, how did that create either 

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like a strain or a connection 
with your Your parents and your 

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family. 
Like how, what was that energy? 

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Because I feel like when you 
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everybody wants you in because 
that's what's happened to me, 

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they exiled me like they just 
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So I'm just wondering, like, 
that's a great question. 

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So, I mean, there is always been
a level of strain in my family 

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Dynamics. 
Even before like me, you know, 

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kind of coming into my own it's 
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can call me the black sheep if 
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actually sent me this hilarious 
video the other day it was like,

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oh the oldest child, is the one 
who's like Loki healing, all the

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traveler that nobody is aware of
like, yeah. 

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But like, you know my sister 
like I am the oldest, I have a 

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sister and a brother, my sisters
actually adopted by my sister's 

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like my best friend, we probably
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similarly and like my brother. 
My mom and my dad are very like 

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connected in the way that they 
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The way they do politics 
whatever they're right up Trump 

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and God's ass like as far as you
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So it's like and like that's no 
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That's to everybody. 
It's just like that's me and my 

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sister differ in that way from 
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So she's the only person that I 
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and like me and my parents. 
We've tried to move through some

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of that stuff and I feel like 
now that like, you know, I don't

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live with them anymore. 
I'm going to totally different 

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state than my family. 
It has given us the space that 

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we need to not be so 
dysfunctional and for them to 

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like see me as my own person and
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As an adult because I think it's
like hard for parents sometimes 

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to like, realize that like, oh, 
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be their own person and they 
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that you think or believe and I 
feel like that was really 

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difficult for my parents, but 
like me and my dad, we have a 

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great relationship. 
Now my mom and I not so much but

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it's always been like that, it's
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know, spirituality and things 
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My mom and I have always been on
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reasons and like I think my 
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Like, you know, he has a hard 
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things that I believe, but he's 
also a tourist so he's thick 

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headed, so I hope so but like I 
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our differences, it definitely 
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I can remember like certain 
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vacation with my dad's family 
and he found my tarot cards 

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because it's like, they were 
just like laying in my room and 

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be keishon and he like blew his 
lid and was like, you know, just

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was not happy about it. 
In front of everybody. 

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And this was before like cry, 
even was like really doing Taro.

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Like I said, like I'm more. 
So like Did It For Fun back in 

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the day it was just like, oh, 
like I'm just gonna like pull 

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card and, like, whatever. 
I wasn't even that serious about

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it, but the reaction that he had
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I just got so emotional and 
after that, I was like, why 

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don't I get so emotional about 
something that like, I don't 

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even, you know what I mean? 
I didn't even practice it that 

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much, but that reaction that I 
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of told me that like, there was 
something deeper there that I 

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needed to kind. 
Of Explorer. 

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Because now it is like very 
important to me and very 

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influential in my practice and 
just, you know, in my life and, 

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you know, whatever. 
But at the time I didn't know 

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that it was going to be that 
way, but the reaction that I had

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towards my dad being very upset 
about finding those things. 

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I was like, hmm, I should 
probably explore. 

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Why that, you know, gave me such
an emotional reaction, like, why

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I have like this attachment to 
this thing. 

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And it's interesting because 
like my dad, like loves 

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astrology, like loves looking at
the Are so it's like he does 

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have, like, he does have like a 
little bit of, you know, new a 

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Genus within him. 
But it's like he's I just feel 

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like once you're on the path of 
Christianity, it's really, 

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really hard to break away from 
like I just feel like you just 

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don't see anything else. 
Like it's just like blinders on 

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and like you can't accept other 
things like at least in my 

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family's experience. 
I should say I shouldn't 

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generalize but that's It's just 
kind of where it is, but like I 

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am able to be more open at least
with my dad about things and I 

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think that moving definitely 
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But at first it was, it wasn't 
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But like I said, it wasn't 
because of that, that my 

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relationship with my family with
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We've kind of all had, you know,
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our upbringing and things like 
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not help and it definitely added
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we're all on a much better page 
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What do you think upset him so 
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your spirituality and like 
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family, even if they don't agree
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say like you were talking about 
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an evolution. 
Ian and you changing as a person

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and like embracing new parts of 
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better. 
So is there a change in the 

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dynamic with that? 
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there is a couple of reasons for
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Like you said, like, just seeing
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like, I think that the 
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just so strong that it's like, 
you're just led to believe that 

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Taro witchcraft like that's 
evil. 

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It's from the devil, you know 
what I mean? 

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Concern was just like oh my God,
my daughter's going to hell like

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even like with his own father. 
Like who is my pup? 

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Obviously like he's not doing 
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trying to get him saved, you 
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remember. 
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with this. 
Dad is get him saved him. 

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So you've got him saved and I'm 
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going to go into that, but I 
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indoctrinated to people that 
like anything that's not of God,

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or what's in the Bible? 
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says like. 
It is from hell is from the 

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devil. 
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just, like, literally concerned 
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oh, she's going down a dark 
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I even tried to explain it to 
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try to explain to him, but it 
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to it. 
He didn't take it. 

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Well, I think that because he he
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on and just like how I've grown 
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And I think like and I honestly 
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Tick-Tock sometimes because 
he's, like, he's given hints 

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that he has. 
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message that I generally try to 
spread is one of healing and one

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of self-acceptance and things 
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I'm doing that through tarot or 
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So it's like, he doesn't really 
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If you were to say that like you
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what I'm practicing is from the 
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towards it and like, even In 
like my mom even though like we 

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don't speak like she actually 
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that was there not tarot cards 
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affirmation cards and things 
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media because of things like 
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talk to them about that stuff 
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there's like little hints here 
and there, that it's like they 

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are supportive in their own way 
even if they can't admit that, 

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they're supportive because it 
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believe. 
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whenever First started talking 
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coming into my own. 
He asked me if I was a part of a

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cult but you thought that this 
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weird and he has talked a lot of
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because I'm so like, unwavering 
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instill that like, Society 
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Like, you can't do that as a 
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I know Jim and I was family's 
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how could you make that work 
with This and without knowing, 

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and, you know, all these things 
that the fear based mentality 

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that keeps people working that 9
to 5 and go into the job, they 

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hate for 40 years and so my dad 
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you mentioned being a tourist. 
Me and my dad have the same 

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birthday and we're both 
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So you know, we have a lot of 
astrological similarities in a 

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way that I feel like my dad, he 
tries to his best. 

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Understand with the limited 
information like he's not 

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willing to read a book or like 
tap in any further. 

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It's just like limited 
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so I think people have sent him 
like my YouTube and my videos 

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and things start popping up and 
that's originally on my dad 

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found out that I got covered in 
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Like I didn't see my whole 
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got padded and so yeah. 
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that this is Making me really 
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he still thinks it's a cult. 
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I feel like there's always going
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aversion to it but like I feel 
like your parents always come 

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when I always, I shouldn't say 
that but I feel like your 

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parents do come around at the 
end of the day and just 

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supporting you in their own way.
Even if it's not the way that 

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you would like them to support 
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a fear-based mentality, it is 
always coming from a place of, 

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you know, one projection. 
But it's also coming from a 

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place because they genuinely 
genuinely do care. 

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It's just in a weird way that 
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It's like we want you to be 
successful, you don't want, you 

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know what I mean? 
Like, it's I don't think it's 

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coming from necessarily a place 
where it's like, they don't want

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to support you. 
I just think it's like this 

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worrisome thing because it's 
like, that's how they were 

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raised. 
It's like you have to work for 

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the rest of your life, you grind
till you die and it's like, we 

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see things differently and 
that's confusing to them. 

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They're like, what you can just 
do whatever you want. 

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It's like, well, yeah, I can 
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that's like such a cognitive 
dissonance thing for that 

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generation. 
Shouldn't specifically because 

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they just, they weren't raised 
in that mentality. 

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And it was just, I don't like to
say narrow-minded, but a little 

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bit, Yeah, a narrow-minded. 
So it's just like hard for them 

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to grasp like that you could 
help people or that you could, 

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you know, make a business out of
spirituality or whatever it is 

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that you're trying to do. 
It's like now everything's kind 

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of accessible and everything's 
on the table for somebody to do 

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or make, you know, a living off 
of or whatever it is, which is 

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Is amazing because that wasn't 
available to them. 

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So I don't think like, I think 
that that's why is because it 

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wasn't necessarily available to 
them so they're like, I don't 

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get it. 
But yeah, I do think that it is 

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like, it is fear-based, for 
sure, but it's like their own 

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fears and it's like, coming from
a place of. 

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I care about you and I don't 
want you to fuck your life up. 

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You know what I mean? 
But it's not necessarily coming 

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from the the greatest place. 
You know what I mean? 

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I mean, that's my opinion for 
the most part, I know that. 

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People's parents are not 
supportive at all in any shape 

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or form. 
So it's funny in general, I feel

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like Do you guys feel like 
knowing that your parents have 

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those opinions and like that? 
That's in the back of your mind 

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that that adds fuel for you? 
For me? 

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I know that my parents don't 
understand what I'm doing and 

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that they don't understand how 
I'm going to make it work and 

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whatever. 
And I'm always the like I'm 

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going to show you. 
You think that it's weird and 

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I'm not going to be able to do 
it and I will not be behind a 

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desk for the rest of my life. 
So like I'm going to make this 

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happen so that I can prove it to
you and It was the biggest 

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motivator for me for like 
building my stuff up in the 

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beginning was like you don't see
how I'm going to make it happen.

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I don't know how I'm gonna make 
it happen but God damn it. 

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I will make it happen and I feel
like that's so integrated now 

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into my purpose. 
Do you guys feel that way? 

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I don't feel like I'm work from 
a place of love that because 

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I've literally genuinely don't 
care like I just don't care and 

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being an only child. 
I know I've talked about this 

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before. 
There's No one else to validate 

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my experience or contrast of 
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So at the end of the day, I just
feel like I'm here to fuck. 

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Shit up and take names. 
I will have a yacht. 

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I will do everything I say I'm 
going to do. 

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And I think what, one day, my 
family will catch on and they'll

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be like, wow, and they'll be 
like, I should have believed in 

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you and I'm always looking at 
the people's family members who 

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are like willing to give their 
kidney for their kids college 

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tuition or Ever and I look at 
this as like I came here to do 

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it my own way and not feel like 
anyone can hold anything over my

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head. 
So I just don't really care. 

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I don't know, I don't ever think
about that. 

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But my mom and me have gotten so
close since getting into it with

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my spirituality, because I 
learned that she was just her 

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own person, having her own 
experiences and going through 

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her own trauma, and that was 
just projected onto me. 

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So, I started to see my mom is 
like a Human Instead of like 

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this person that was supposed to
protect and Save. 

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Save me but instead this person 
who was also struggling and 

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going through her own addictions
and vices and shitty 

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relationships and whatever, and 
then like I was always caught 

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between my parents drama. 
So I feel like just kind of 

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separating myself from that 
drama and now it's just like 

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don't ask don't tell energy like
I don't, I don't know what we're

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doing but I'm going to do it and
so I kind of like to tell people

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what I'm doing after I've done 
it. 

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So I don't really like Prepare 
them for anything. 

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It's just like, yeah, I got a 
face that to Mom, you know, 

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Richard Pryor. 
I'm gonna be like, I did it, you

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know? 
So, just kidding mom. 

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I mean, for me, I feel like it's
a little bit of both. 

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Like, yes, I don't care at the 
end of the day because if I did 

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care that, I wouldn't be doing 
what I was doing. 

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Like if I was so focused on like
still craving my parents 

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validation, which was a huge 
issue for me like throughout my 

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entire life, like I wouldn't be 
on your Podcast right now, like 

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I wouldn't be talking to you 
guys right now, so I feel like 

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there is a little bit of, you 
know, like watch me because I 

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want to prove you wrong but it's
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It's just like I want to show 
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thing and I feel like with 
anything it's like, you know, 

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you can't wake everybody up. 
We know that. 

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But like you can still hold the 
light and lead for people to 

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watch you even if they don't get
it. 

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Like people have to come to 
terms with things like that on 

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their own, nobody can force you.
To believe something or to see 

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something like, people have to 
see it and experience it for 

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themselves. 
So it's like, I get that they 

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don't get it. 
And like, you were saying, like,

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it's like, I've also, you know, 
come to learn that. 

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Like, my parents are just 
wounded in her children like we 

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all are like everybody's walking
around with their, you know, 

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hurting her child at the end of 
the day. 

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And I feel like, you know, we 
don't always see her parents 

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that way, but I feel like when 
you are able to take that lens 

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on, it gives you a little more 
grace and compassion for me, the

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things that That they did to you
or how they treated you and 

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things like that. 
But and again just seeing them 

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as a human versus like oh you're
supposed to be perfect because 

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you're my parent because that's 
not realistic. 

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But I feel like we do have these
standards for our parents which 

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is acceptable. 
I think like you should be held 

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to a certain standard as a 
parent, but at the end of the 

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day it's just like they don't 
know what they're doing either. 

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So it's like nobody knows what 
they're doing at the end of the 

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day, we're all humans. 
Just living our own Journey, 

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whether spiritual or not. 
But I do feel like it's more. 

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So in the sense like it's a 
little bit of both. 

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Like it's like, yes, I don't 
care what you think. 

443
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But to I do care about you. 
So I'm going to still hold the 

444
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,400
light and if you want to follow 
me great or if you get it, you 

445
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,500
get it and if you don't that's 
okay too. 

446
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,700
Like I accept you regardless, 
you know what I mean? 

447
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:23,100
And that's kind of how I am with
everybody. 

448
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,000
It's like, I don't really care 
what anybody believes. 

449
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,600
I accept you, no matter what 
you're entitled to your beliefs 

450
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,200
and like, and I'm also entitled 
to mine soon. 

451
00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:33,200
Like, I feel like it is like a 
little bit of a mixture. 

452
00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:36,400
ER of both for me. 
How do you feel about 

453
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,800
reincarnation and about picking 
certain Souls that you have this

454
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,500
experience with? 
Because I know for sure, like me

455
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:44,400
and my mom have been sisters 
before. 

456
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,700
Like, when I started learning 
about astrology, I found out 

457
00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:51,200
that I'm a Taurus, but my moon 
is in Libra. 

458
00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:54,500
My mom is a Libra and her moon 
is in Taurus. 

459
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:58,200
So, we're literally day and 
night opposite, and I'm like, it

460
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,100
makes so much sense. 
Like everything started to add 

461
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,200
up when I started to dive into 
astrology. 

462
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,300
G. 
But I'm also really a big 

463
00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:09,200
advocate for like reincarnation 
and like the past life's and 

464
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,200
picking certain people that you 
keep going through and 

465
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,800
experience with. 
So do you feel like you picked 

466
00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:17,600
all of this with your family to 
kind of learn and find your 

467
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,300
spirituality because being 
exposed to Christianity is like 

468
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:25,300
one extreme to the next and like
I wasn't exposed to any 

469
00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:27,200
religion. 
I've never set foot in a church 

470
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,900
of my parents. 
My mom was raised Baptist but 

471
00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,900
never carried that through any. 
Part of her adult life. 

472
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,000
You know what I mean? 
So at the end of the day, I've 

473
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,500
never been around religion. 
I've just kind of been there 

474
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:45,000
like, nobody was really forcing 
me to believe anything. 

475
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,100
I was just there and I feel like
some of the beliefs that I've 

476
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:52,900
developed are really about like 
this longevity of the souls 

477
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:56,200
experience and not just the 
human or the body and I think 

478
00:24:56,208 --> 00:24:59,400
that's what keeps me going when 
things like happened. 

479
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,300
Like, I got summoned for jury 
duty or just inconveniences at 

480
00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:04,700
the been. 
Since I'm always like, it's 

481
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:07,600
okay, like my soul, pick this or
like, whatever. 

482
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,200
And I find a lot of Peace in 
that knowing that we picked 

483
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,700
certain trials, or tribulations 
to learn and grow from. 

484
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:20,000
And I feel very empowered by the
stuff that used to make me feel 

485
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,400
like week or ashamed. 
I feel like super empowered by 

486
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:27,500
all of my trauma now and so I'm 
like very thankful that my 

487
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:31,100
parents, you know, didn't 
shelter me and I was exposed to 

488
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:33,200
a lot of crazy stuff because 
it's help me. 

489
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:38,500
Me in my like later 20s. 
And now I'm 30s as like, in this

490
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:42,700
Gap, I've learned so much and 
Incorporated it, but thinking 

491
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:45,200
about reincarnation is kind of 
like what keeps me going all the

492
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,700
time. 
Like I'm always thinking about 

493
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:50,100
that. 
Yeah, I mean I love that you 

494
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,600
brought that up actually because
I absolutely believe that 

495
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,300
reincarnation is a thing. 
I don't know like the ins and 

496
00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:58,300
outs of what I believe, because 
I feel like that's something 

497
00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:00,900
that I'm definitely still 
learning and still grasping. 

498
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,100
But it's funny that you said 
that about your mom because like

499
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,100
different books. 
I've read and different things 

500
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:08,600
like that. 
You know how you talked about 

501
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,400
like Soul contracts and things 
like that. 

502
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,600
I know I have that with my mom 
for sure. 

503
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,700
But there's something that I 
don't even remember where it 

504
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:16,900
was. 
That I read it, where I was like

505
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:18,900
that. 
Makes sense where it's like. 

506
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,800
I think that I was her mom. 
Yes life. 

507
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000
And like it's like reverse now. 
So I don't know if I was a piece

508
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,500
of shit to her. 
Like maybe I was a good mom, I 

509
00:26:28,508 --> 00:26:30,700
have no idea but like maybe I 
was a piece of shit to her and 

510
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:33,400
now she's a piece of shit to me 
and like whatever. 

511
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,500
But it's just like I do feel 
that in a sense and I don't 

512
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:40,200
know. 
Like I don't know how much I 

513
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,800
feel about like, oh, I chose 
every single thing that has ever

514
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,300
happened to me. 
Do you know what I mean? 

515
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:48,200
Because I do believe in Free 
Will and You believe that, like 

516
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,800
some things like are mutable and
changable, don't know that, I 

517
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,900
believe that, every single thing
that's ever happened to me, I 

518
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:58,200
chose it before, but I do 
believe, like, there are 

519
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,600
definitely certain lessons that 
I chose and whether I did choose

520
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,900
it or not, like they were 
lessons that I was meant to 

521
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:05,800
learn. 
And that my soul came here to 

522
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,700
learn and like The Reincarnation
thing that I really got. 

523
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,100
Like a download about. 
It was actually, I'm like my 

524
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:17,500
last trip that I had. 
Was that like, you know, No, 

525
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:21,200
eternity is here and now and 
that like just reconfirms 

526
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,900
reincarnation because it's like 
your soul is eternal so whether 

527
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,600
it's like you're like whether I 
die and then come back as 

528
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,100
somebody else. 
Like that's my afterlife so to 

529
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:31,800
speak. 
It's like it's never ending or 

530
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,100
if I come back as a tree like 
you're just always going to keep

531
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,400
living. 
It's just in a different form, 

532
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:40,000
maybe you know what I mean. 
So it's like eternity is here 

533
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,900
and now and I really feel like 
that just confirms reincarnation

534
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:49,300
at least for me, but yeah. 
I'm still, I'm still grasping 

535
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:52,500
the ins and outs of it but I 
definitely would like feel very 

536
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:56,500
similarly to you. 
It's over here, thinking I 

537
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,200
wonder where you went on your 
trip and then I realized what 

538
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,100
kind of trick we go hurts. 
No, it was a trip and a trip all

539
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:05,400
in one, you know that? 
I mean, I don't know what we're 

540
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,200
allowed to say, so no. 
Yeah, you're fun clearly. 

541
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,000
I'm like an advocate for all 
plant medicine, or, you know, 

542
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,700
using the tools that are here 
for the experience, like, using 

543
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:21,500
whatever tool that is, I think a
lot of people abuse the 

544
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:23,500
resources that we have 
available. 

545
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:26,800
I think anything in excess, A 
now is not good. 

546
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,300
It doesn't matter if it's a 
really good thing too. 

547
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:33,500
Much of it is never good. 
So I think that as humans, one 

548
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:36,700
of the things that spirit always
tells me is like we're in this 

549
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:40,000
age of distraction and a lot of 
people are going to choose to 

550
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,300
run and distract themselves the 
whole time they're here. 

551
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:46,500
Like they're never going to 
worry about these traumas or 

552
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,000
lessons or whatever. 
There's going to keep projecting

553
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,500
and harming and self. 
Absolutely, yeah, yeah. 

554
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,100
And I think that the People such
as everyone here. 

555
00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:00,900
We're actively choosing to heal 
even when it's uncomfortable. 

556
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:07,100
And I think that no matter what,
there is so much power in that 

557
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:10,700
because, you know, literally 
like 80%, I would say of the 

558
00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:14,500
people on Earth are like totally
not worried about a lot of 

559
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:19,100
things that they should worry 
about, but I do try to really 

560
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:23,200
give people like space and Grace
to just be themselves and not 

561
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,300
try to impose my beliefs Or 
judge them or anything? 

562
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:31,800
Like I feel like some people 
because I am so spiritual. 

563
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,700
They think that I'm not allowed 
to have like negative thoughts 

564
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,800
or that. 
I'm not allowed to say negative 

565
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,500
things. 
Or, you know, I mean that I'm 

566
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:44,300
just like, I don't spread fear. 
That's one thing I refuse to do 

567
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:49,100
is spread fear about anything, 
but, you know, a lot of people 

568
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,200
get upset whenever I voice, 
like, those darker parts of me 

569
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000
because I think they really see 
me in this light. 

570
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,500
And they don't see that I have 
the shadow side that I'm not 

571
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,600
running from her hiding from 
then I'm like incorporating. 

572
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:07,200
And so I do think that overall I
am very attracted to people such

573
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,000
as yourself and Jim and I'm 
like, the people that we've kind

574
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,800
of all like collected or 
gathered in this spiritual 

575
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:19,000
Community is like anyone who's 
willing to take their life 

576
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,900
experience and expose it to the 
world. 

577
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:24,000
So other people don't feel alone
is like such a beautiful thing 

578
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,900
to me. 
For sure. 

579
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,700
And like I just think that, you 
know, what you said is so true. 

580
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:33,700
Like it's like, people think 
that it's like, oh if your 

581
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:36,400
spiritual you have to be in 11 
light and this that the other 

582
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,100
thing it's like, no, you have to
Encompass your full self and 

583
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,400
it's like, nobody is without 
Darkness. 

584
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,700
Nobody is without, you know, 
their pain, their, whatever, 

585
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,900
like we've all had human 
experiences and to deny that is 

586
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,600
denying your own self denying 
your own experience. 

587
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,500
So it's like I think that there 
is a happy medium. 

588
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,000
So To speak. 
Like you said everything in 

589
00:30:56,008 --> 00:30:59,200
moderation but it's like think 
there is a happy medium of like,

590
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,400
you know, you don't, you know, 
sit in your Darkness, you work 

591
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,700
through it, you know what I 
mean? 

592
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:08,000
But and just like what you were 
saying with people who choose to

593
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,000
like abuse certain things like 
yeah, like sometimes I just do 

594
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,200
my trips and plant medicine for 
fun. 

595
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,300
But like that, that time that 
I'm talking about specifically, 

596
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:20,700
I was util utilizing that 
specifically for spiritual 

597
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:22,500
experience. 
Like I set an intention that 

598
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:25,000
this is what I was going to do. 
I literally journaled the Why 

599
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,900
are saying like it was very 
expansive for me. 

600
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:31,100
Like I was talking to one of my 
guides that I didn't know who it

601
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:33,500
was and like they revealed 
themselves to me about who it 

602
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,200
was and it was just like such a 
transformative like amazing 

603
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400
experience. 
And like, I've never like that 

604
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,200
was the best trip of my life, 
like physically and look like 

605
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,800
literally. 
But like it's just like I do, 

606
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,800
you know when I'm doing things 
like that, I do try to make sure

607
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,200
there's an intent behind it and 
that I'm not like just, you know

608
00:31:50,208 --> 00:31:52,600
what I mean, just doing it, for 
the hell of it, not that you 

609
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,600
can't do that. 
But I do like, Like to utilize 

610
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,800
it in a way that helps me grow 
and helps me learn and helps me 

611
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,900
understand the world better 
because I do feel like you're 

612
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:08,000
you get so much more connection 
to the universe to Nature two 

613
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,600
things when you do things like 
that and not that you can't when

614
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,800
you're sober but it's just like 
on a whole different level and 

615
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,900
it's just like on a whole 
different level that I just 

616
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,300
can't even explain it. 
But yeah, so I agree with what 

617
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:21,800
you said. 
I'm so jealous of your guys's 

618
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,900
experiences because I've tried 
This plant medicine, tripping, 

619
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:32,300
experience a couple of different
times and I have had no effects 

620
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:36,500
from what I have had and I won't
say I've had no effects. 

621
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:42,500
I I've taken a lot and there's 
only been one time that I just 

622
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:46,700
felt any different and we had 
people over at our house and I 

623
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:48,800
just felt like I just wanted to 
be by myself. 

624
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,600
And so I just laid in my bed and
my husband was like you've been 

625
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200
staring at the wall for hours. 
And I just remember sitting 

626
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,300
there and being like, I mean, I 
feel a lot of anxiety right now,

627
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,500
and that's the only thing I 
remember feeling was I just felt

628
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:12,400
very anxious, but I'm so 
intrigued on trying for, like, 

629
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,400
opening your third eye and 
having these experiences, these 

630
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,300
spiritual experiences. 
And when I get to take my trip 

631
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:23,400
out to see page, I really want 
to trip and like, go on like a 

632
00:33:23,408 --> 00:33:28,700
spiritual because I think, too, 
that like, I'm somebody who I'm 

633
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:33,800
very cautious about letting my 
guard down, and I and being 

634
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,600
vulnerable and situations, 
especially like, spiritual 

635
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,000
situations and things. 
I feel like, I'm always super 

636
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,600
aware of the people around me, 
and I don't want to let my guard

637
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,300
down and be offensive about 
something or freak somebody out 

638
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:54,400
because like, I'm super woo. 
And so I feel like maybe it just

639
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,900
hasn't Ben the right experience.
But I'm so jealous of you guys 

640
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,800
that you've had these 
experiences and these like 

641
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,600
eye-opening moments, I when it 
comes to like connecting with 

642
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,900
Spirit guides in particular, I'm
so attracted to that. 

643
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:13,600
And I've done like guided 
meditations for like meeting 

644
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,100
your Spirit guides and all kinds
of things and that's something 

645
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:22,400
that I've never been able to do 
and that I'm really looking 

646
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,900
forward to happening. 
And I believe, Divine timing. 

647
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:28,900
So I believe that there's 
probably a reason that I haven't

648
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:33,600
yet and there's a reason why I 
didn't have the experiences and 

649
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,400
whatever, but I just think it's 
really fucking cool that you 

650
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,199
guys can do that. 
I think it's levels, there's 

651
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,699
levels to it. 
And if you're not ready for 

652
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:45,400
what's going to come, they could
hit you like a ton of bricks and

653
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,600
you will not have a good time. 
So I do think that it's like the

654
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,900
levels of awareness that you're 
unlocking will give you 

655
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:55,300
different experience. 
Isis. 

656
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,500
I was just going to say like I 
totally understand what you're 

657
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:00,600
saying about. 
Like things is Aya tea and like 

658
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400
being super aware of people. 
Like I can be like that too. 

659
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Just like just sober. 
So like I totally understand 

660
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,900
that and I feel like what's 
really important when you're 

661
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,700
doing things like that, is the 
setting that you're in the 

662
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:14,600
environment. 
It's like, you have to set the 

663
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,800
stage and it's like, like I 
said, if you're just doing it 

664
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,700
for fun and like whatever, like 
that's totally different, but if

665
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:22,800
you're having like, a specific 
intention or you want to have a 

666
00:35:22,808 --> 00:35:26,400
specific experience so to speak,
It's like, it's like, when you 

667
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,300
bless your cards or whatever it 
is like, you know, you can talk 

668
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:31,300
to your mushrooms, you where you
take them or whatever. 

669
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:34,100
And it's like make sure that 
you're in a setting in a, in an 

670
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:36,400
environment that is comfortable 
to you. 

671
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:40,100
And I know that like, for me, 
especially like, depending on, 

672
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:43,300
like, how much I'm doing or 
whatever it's like, you know, 

673
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:46,200
there is that part, when I start
to feel it, where I do get like 

674
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,000
a little bit of anxiety, but 
it's just like, all about like, 

675
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,000
you know, not meditating but 
kind of just breathing through 

676
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,600
it and like, being able to let 
go like it. 

677
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,100
It's very much about, like, if 
you're feeling constricted 

678
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:58,200
because you're like, oh, I feel 
it. 

679
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,300
Like, whatever like that, 
definitely happens. 

680
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,700
And I feel like that's totally 
normal, but like, the more you 

681
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:06,100
just kind of ease into it and 
breathe and do it so to speak. 

682
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:08,900
Like then after that, it's like 
you don't even think about it 

683
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:10,100
anymore, because you're in it, 
then. 

684
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,700
So, it's like, I'm not trying to
give you advice, but it's just 

685
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:15,000
like, I do understand, like, 
where you're coming from, and 

686
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,700
that's just like, certain things
that have helped me is very much

687
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:20,900
like setting the stage. 
Having an environment that makes

688
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:23,600
me feel comfortable having 
things around me, that I know 

689
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,700
that are going to make me feel 
comfortable. 

690
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Or whether that's like a 
blanket, a certain like snack 

691
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,200
water for sure, definitely have 
water. 

692
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:32,100
Oh, definitely want stuffed 
animals. 

693
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:36,500
Hence why I have my stuffed 
animal Utopia you need soft 

694
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,700
stuff. 
I personally like to be naked in

695
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,300
a robe with pockets, with 
crystals in it and like a 

696
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:45,900
selenite one. 
Just for likes a key things. 

697
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:52,000
But I'll be honest, like, I love
seeing people expand into that 

698
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,300
because I believe that's what's 
going to heal the world. 

699
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,500
I believe that that's what's 
going to change mental health, 

700
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,600
that's what's going to change 
people's perception. 

701
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,200
That's what's going to wake the 
world up and I love to see 

702
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,600
people being able to step out of
their comfort zone because it is

703
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,400
an uncomfortable situation. 
I've watched Friends go through 

704
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,900
the Dark Night of the Soul while
on a trip and I've also been 

705
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,600
there myself ugly crying for 
freaking hours. 

706
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,400
So it's not always pretty, it's 
not always rainbows and puppies 

707
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,000
but it is totally like You come 
out of it. 

708
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,500
You're a different person every 
time. 

709
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,500
Like, you don't even know who 
you were before. 

710
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,500
You're so different 100%. 
And what you were saying about 

711
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:34,900
like the Divine timing about 
like, oh, maybe there's a reason

712
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:39,100
I have an experience that that 
yet is, I 100% believe that 

713
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,400
because every single time, like 
I've had a different experience 

714
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,800
each time. 
It's all like come full circle 

715
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,900
in a way that like what I 
learned or what I experienced 

716
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:52,100
made sense and like the events 
leading up to it, kind of led to

717
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,100
that breakthrough or whatever it
is. 

718
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,100
I don't really know. 
How to explain that, but I do 

719
00:37:56,100 --> 00:38:00,300
genuinely believe that, like, 
that's probably the same for you

720
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:04,300
as well, and just like something
that I was going to say before 

721
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:06,500
when you were like, oh, I didn't
really have any effects. 

722
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:09,300
I was like, have you ever heard 
of like people saying like how 

723
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:12,400
like, you know, how you would be
like on mushrooms or whatever 

724
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,500
like whatever psychedelic like 
that's really what the world is 

725
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:18,100
like and that's really like what
we're experiencing but because 

726
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,900
like our brains like can't 
handle it. 

727
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:23,700
Like this is us tripping like 
how we are right now. 

728
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:25,500
So I was like, oh, maybe that's 
You like me? 

729
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:28,000
Maybe you're just like always on
hive and like they're just 

730
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,000
always like seeing crazy shit 
but yeah, I do I do definitely 

731
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,500
recommend being out in nature 
because I think it's like you 

732
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:38,700
get the coolest visuals. 
And you really see just like how

733
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:41,000
everything connects in the 
world. 

734
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:44,000
Like I can't even explain it. 
Like I wish I could draw it or 

735
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,700
like send you like a visual 
representation but it's just 

736
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,200
like I highly recommend like 
doing those things out in 

737
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,700
nature. 
I mean, if nature is not your 

738
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,900
thing then, definitely don't. 
But like I said, make sure that 

739
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:57,100
you're comfortable But I do feel
like they're like when it's your

740
00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:00,700
time to have like a download as 
an experience whatever like you 

741
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:04,300
will absolutely have one. 
And like I said, just like, you 

742
00:39:04,308 --> 00:39:07,000
know, talk to your little mushy 
peas and like be like, hey like 

743
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,800
this is what I want to happen. 
This is what I want to 

744
00:39:08,808 --> 00:39:10,500
experience like help me out 
guys. 

745
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:13,800
Like I know that sounds again. 
Whoa, but I know that you guys 

746
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,800
will understand that. 
So I mean, that's just kind of 

747
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,900
my tips, or at least like what I
do, you know what I'm doing 

748
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:23,600
that. 
So you know what's funny about 

749
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,700
the nature thing? 
Like, I like nature. 

750
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,400
I like I love going out in 
nature and I'm like, I like 

751
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,900
water. 
Like I want to be here. 

752
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:35,100
I, I know that so many people 
find nature relaxing. 

753
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:39,900
I am so over stimulated when I 
am out in nature and there's so 

754
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,500
many sounds in there, so many 
things and I also grew up in the

755
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,300
mountains in Northern 
California, which is like bears 

756
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:51,900
and mountain lions and fucking 
hoog Sasquatches nephew like 

757
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:57,300
everything is out there and so I
always Always had this fear of 

758
00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:03,500
like the forest in general, even
though like that is my comfort 

759
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,300
place. 
And so my husband's like when we

760
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,400
do it like you have to be out in
nature. 

761
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,300
It'll be like I'm just gonna and
I'm like, I am most comfortable 

762
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:17,500
sitting on my bed, then do that.
Yeah, absolutely. 

763
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,700
Well, I need to do it at Paige's
house, when she's making 

764
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:27,000
anaerobic and we can touch her. 
You guys are gonna have a great 

765
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,700
experience. 
I think that's what's going to 

766
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:30,700
pop for you, for real. 
Yeah. 

767
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Like if like I said, if nature 
is not your thing then devotes 

768
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:41,300
gonna pop situation honestly. 
I did some out in nature before 

769
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:44,600
and it was like a thousand and 
ten degrees outside and like in 

770
00:40:44,607 --> 00:40:46,600
the beginning of the day, it was
real cool. 

771
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,900
And by the end of the day or 
like mid-afternoon, I was 

772
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,800
literally coming unglued. 
I was melting from the inside 

773
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,200
out and it was not fun and I got
nasty, like, kind of rude to 

774
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,300
everyone because I was so hot 
and bothered if you will, and it

775
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:04,800
look was not cool. 
So, I do recommend on, like, a 

776
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,800
fall, crisp fall setting, good 
to go, but summer, not cold, Jim

777
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,700
and I said she doesn't like 
summer that she gets seasonal 

778
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:17,100
depression during summer and I 
kind of get that too because now

779
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:20,100
I'm starting to feel really 
revived and like instead of 

780
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:23,600
taking naps every afternoon, I'm
like wanting to take a walk or 

781
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,100
like frolic. 
Yard or something because I'm 

782
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,900
just like, I love this weather 
and I love the seasons when they

783
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:32,900
change, it's like my favorite 
time. 

784
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:38,800
So when you started your 
spiritual business, what was 

785
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,100
your goal? 
Like where you just putting 

786
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,800
yourself out there? 
Or did you have like, I want to 

787
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,400
Have clients or like was that 
your initial goal because when I

788
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,400
started I had no idea I was 
going to have clients. 

789
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,900
I just had no idea that like I 
would build an actual business 

790
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:58,600
from it. 
I thought I was just like 

791
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,200
reading cards for my friends or 
like helping people but nothing 

792
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:08,300
like I'm doing now, very 
similar, and I'm probably even 

793
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,600
newer to the game than you, I 
would say. 

794
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,100
I mean, I don't know that for 
sure, but I feel like a lot of 

795
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:17,300
it was me being led. 
Those things like I didn't know 

796
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:19,300
what I was going to do, it was 
just like this is what you're 

797
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:21,900
supposed to do. 
And I was like, okay, like I'm 

798
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:25,900
very much like resisted doing 
what I'm doing now for a very, 

799
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:28,000
very long time. 
I was like, nope, that's not me.

800
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:31,600
I'm not going to do that. 
Like, that's not for me like and

801
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,500
then it just became a thing 
where I was pushed by, you know,

802
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:38,200
Spirit by my guides by my higher
self and by other people as 

803
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,500
well, telling me that like you 
need to put yourself out there 

804
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:42,900
more like you should do this. 
Like, you have a gift like blah,

805
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:44,800
blah, blah. 
And I was like, oh okay. 

806
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Like I was very very Very 
hesitant about it and now it's 

807
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,700
like, I don't know again. 
I don't know why I didn't start 

808
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:51,800
sooner. 
That's how I am with, pretty 

809
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,600
much everything. 
It's like I talked myself out of

810
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,700
things and then once I do it, 
I'm like, God damn it. 

811
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,300
Why don't you ever listen to 
yourself? 

812
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:02,300
But yeah, so it was a little bit
of like me, encouraging myself 

813
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,200
on an internal level and people 
telling me that like, oh, I 

814
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,800
think that you should do this. 
I see this for you or see that 

815
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,200
you have, you know, these gifts 
or whatever. 

816
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:14,700
And at first, it was just like, 
you know, I'm just going to put 

817
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,300
myself out there slowly. 
But surely and then people 

818
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:19,800
started asking me because I 
didn't do personal readings at 

819
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,200
first I was just, you know, 
doing stuff on my stories and 

820
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,100
posting, you know, General 
readings and affirmations or 

821
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,800
whatever never liked people 
would just having, oh, do you do

822
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,100
personal reasons? 
Like, no other, like, people 

823
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,500
would keep asking me and I was 
like, okay, like there is 

824
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,500
something to this, like I'm 
going to give the people what 

825
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:37,500
they want, you know what I mean?
So that's kind of like how it 

826
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,800
started was just like people 
encouraging me, people telling 

827
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,100
me to again go on Tick-Tock 
because I wasn't on Tick-Tock up

828
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,000
until last year like the 
tomorrow. 

829
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,900
I was going to be like my year 
anniversary of being on Tik-Tok 

830
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,000
so like I wish I would have 
started that sooner but it 

831
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,500
doesn't matter. 
Like I've like, I have built a 

832
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:56,000
great community and I love it 
over there. 

833
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,700
Like I said, like I preferred 
over there, to be honest, but 

834
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,500
that was encouraged. 
You know, by other people 

835
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,500
telling me to do that and I was 
very hesitant towards that as 

836
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,600
well. 
So it was just more so people 

837
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,500
telling me that they wanted me 
to do that. 

838
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:12,300
So I was like okay like I'll 
give it a shot and yeah it's 

839
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:14,800
been really good. 
Like obviously like my end goal 

840
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,900
is to not have to work. 925 like
you said, not have to work 

841
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:20,800
behind a desk and Link, be able 
to, you know, set my own 

842
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,500
schedule and to just like be 
free and do things that they 

843
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:26,200
actually want to do. 
And that I'm passionate about 

844
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,800
versus working for the man, Even
though, like, I mean, I am 

845
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,500
fortunate like I do have a good 
work environment where I work 

846
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:35,500
that it's just I don't want to 
do it like I that's not what I 

847
00:44:35,508 --> 00:44:38,000
meant to do. 
That's not what I think 

848
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,500
anybody's meant to do at the end
of the day but yeah that is my 

849
00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:46,000
end goal is to, you know, 
somehow build something that's 

850
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,400
Enough, whether it's with just 
Arrow or with something else 

851
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,800
that, you know, comes to me 
through Spirit, or through, you 

852
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,900
know, an idea that I have to 
build something substantial 

853
00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:59,100
enough where I don't have to 
rely on a 9 to 5 where I don't 

854
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:03,700
have to rely on anybody but 
myself to you know make my 

855
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:07,100
dreams come true so to speak and
like give myself you know a good

856
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,100
life. 
So that's the end goal we're at 

857
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:11,100
the very beginning stages of 
that end goal. 

858
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:14,800
But yeah, that's kind of how it 
all transpired for me. 

859
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:20,600
I love that. 
I really love seeing so many 

860
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,300
people in the beginning phases 
of their journey and I feel like

861
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:29,400
this is a good breaking point we
definitely want to get you back 

862
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,900
on to the podcast as you develop
this. 

863
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:36,100
I love you. 
Yeah you guys do this is the 

864
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:39,000
sweetest Aura. 
It's like super purple and pink 

865
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,600
right now and it's just it's 
very sweet. 

866
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,400
It's very happy it's very 
inviting. 

867
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,800
I also feel like You're doing a 
really good job of like 

868
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,400
connecting with your inner 
child. 

869
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,500
I was kind of getting that 
message that like your inner 

870
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:56,100
child's really proud of you. 
I don't think that you're giving

871
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:59,300
yourself like as much credit as 
like Spirit wants you to kind of

872
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:01,800
give yourself and I think that's
what's cool about bringing 

873
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,500
people together and Community is
so we can all celebrate one 

874
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,800
another you know, we're real big
on like we don't compete, we I 

875
00:46:07,808 --> 00:46:10,500
don't care if we all do the same
exact thing on the same, exact 

876
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,900
day at the same, exact time, it 
will be different and I love 

877
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,900
that energy. 
So go ahead and just let 

878
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,200
everyone One know where they can
find you. 

879
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,700
And then, we will also link all 
of your socials in this 

880
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:25,600
description box. 
So if you want to go ahead and 

881
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:31,100
just let people know, yes. 
So I am at Shannon teal and then

882
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:36,400
it's sha and N, 0, n, n n, 23 
ends, and then teal is my middle

883
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,600
name. 
T, EA, L, Instagram, and 

884
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Tick-Tock are both the same. 
I am on YouTube as well, but 

885
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,700
that's mostly just my music 
stuff. 

886
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:46,300
So I do post my personal 
readings on their unlisted for 

887
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:48,000
when people book Still readings 
from you. 

888
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,200
They'll go on my YouTube and 
I'll give them an unlisted link,

889
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,400
so that they can have, you know,
the video forever and ever at 

890
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,000
their fingertips, that never 
goes away. 

891
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,400
But yeah, YouTube is mostly just
for my music and stuff. 

892
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,800
But if you're trying to follow 
me for personal readings, just 

893
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:04,500
healing stuff and funny stuff. 
I'm on Tick, Tock and Instagram 

894
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:08,300
at Shannon teal and we will link
that in the bottom. 

895
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:12,700
I am so grateful. 
Thank you so much for coming on 

896
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:16,400
to our podcast and we really 
look forward to tapping back in 

897
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,600
with you. 
In the next like six months and 

898
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,200
just kind of seeing all of this 
grow. 

899
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,500
And I bet I have a feeling that 
when you come back, you're going

900
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:26,900
to have taken the leap into your
business. 

901
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,100
Hell yeah. 
Thank you guys. 

902
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:32,700
I appreciate it so much and I 
still want that shirt. 

903
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:33,700
So we're going to talk about 
that. 

904
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,100
Yeah, we'll talk about that. 
I'm actually, I'm gonna pull you

905
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,400
a card from Pages. 
Dex, I'm going to text you when 

906
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,200
we're done because I just felt 
like I needed to awesome. 

907
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Thank you guys so much. 
I love this. 

908
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,900
This is amazing. 
Thank you for coming to 

909
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:47,100
Candyland. 
Thank you. 

910
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,500
To everyone, listening everyone 
who's supporting on the patreon.

911
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:55,100
We did a behind-the-scenes 
blooper episode before we 

912
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,500
started recording. 
So this is something new. 

913
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,600
It will only be on patreon. 
We will not be cutting any 

914
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,500
little details from it. 
It's going to be very exciting 

915
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:08,400
to do behind the scenes, content
exclusively for our people 

916
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:11,800
tap-in. 
If you want to watch the video, 

917
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,300
we will link all of the 
information in the description 

918
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:18,700
box and we will see you next 
time in Candyland And I guys, 

919
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:19,800
bye.