Welcome to fucking Dandy land hosted by Rampage and Gemini.
What's up everybody? Welcome back to Candyland.
We have a guest today. Yes, welcome to Shannon.
We are so excited. This episode is really going to
Encompass where the spiritual journey takes everyone on a
different path, but somehow we all meet back in the middle.
So welcome Shannon. Introduce yourself.
Hello everyone. I am Shannon.
I'm very happy to be here. And thank you both so much for
having me because I really appreciate it and I'm very
excited. So, a little bit about my
journey so to speak. I know that I think you have a
similar background. As I do Gemini that I was raised
in a very, very Christian home and that kind of was my
background for pretty much my entire life.
And then kind of during the pandemic, when stuff shut down
and I said, R time to myself and things like that.
I was getting, I've always been like very spiritual just as a
child and just, you know, throughout my life.
But I guess I just never really was very taboo.
You know what I mean? It was very taboo to my parents
is very taboo. And my upbringing, my extended
family, whatever. So, I just never really was
outspoken about. It was more of like an internal
thing and things like that, and things that I was just
interested in and drawn to that, I was like, oh, I'm not supposed
to like that, you know what I mean?
But, during the pandemic, And you know, I had a lot more time
to myself. I was like really getting into
more of a spiritual practice. I always had tarot cards that I
like hid away, but I was more so just like did that like on my
own for fun and like, things like that.
But I really started to dive into the Bible because I was
just like, oh, like I'm going to like really read my Bible and
really like, you know what I mean, beyond my faith because
now I have no excuse to not like, you know what I mean?
Like, the super diligent about that.
And the more and more, I read. Read the more and more, I
deconstruction deconstructed because of that.
So it's actually ironic because it was like I was trying to get
deeper into my faith of Christianity and it actually
like made me deconstruct by doing that.
And it's not that I don't believe in any of those things
anymore or any of those constructs or anything like
that. Like, I think that there is, you
know, valuable Vibe like information in the Bible.
I think that, you know, The Parables and things like that,
you can always take those lessons to heart for sure.
But it was just more of a didn't believe in the patriarchal Jesus
that I was raised to believe in and just how the church is, I
completely walked away from the church just because I just saw
so many flaws and holes in it even growing up but then that
was just like kind of like the breaking point for me and I will
say that I think I've heard you talk about this before that.
You do have a Jesus was the which shirt.
So I was wondering if maybe we can talk about me getting one of
those if I will. I'm just going to plug you right
here. Because I did hear that.
I'm one of your episodes, and I was like, oh, I gotta ask her
about that because I do really want one of those shirts if
that's possible. I do have.
Yeah, that's on my merch line and we can totally talk and I
can get something sent out to you.
I do have the Jesus was a wet shirt and actually, you said
something that I haven't heard anybody out, like, out of
everybody. I've talked to, I haven't heard
you all start the same experience with me where you
like were like, oh, will let me dive deeper into the Bible when
you were trying to You're out your spirituality and that was
something that I did for me. Like I downloaded Bible apps and
all kinds of stuff because being raised to believe that you just
it's always you don't feel a connection to God.
Well, that's because you're not understanding his word and
you're doing it incorrectly. And so, when I was trying to
find my spirituality, the more that I do then to my gift of
mediumship, the more that I thought of all of the things
that I was told growing up and And went to find safety like in
the Bible and figuring things out that way.
And I realized that, no matter how much I was reading of, like,
scripture and things it. Did it make me agree with what I
was reading. It just made me feel like, I
always felt like I was searching for something that I couldn't
find. And so I just wanted to like,
give you a moment to like let you know that.
I understand how much strength that takes in order to find
yourself. Through that because that really
is. You have to have such a like
motivating mindset and really want to like Elevate yourself
and your spirituality. And and it's hard to find your
own way and so like, I commend you on being able to do that
especially if you didn't have other people around you, that
we're supporting you at that time.
Yeah, definitely not definitely not.
And like it was a hard. It was even like a morning in a
grieving process for me because it's like that's how I grew up.
Oh, up. That was what I base my entire
life on. Do you know what I mean?
So it's just, like, that's supposed to be the center of
your everything. So it was almost like a grieving
process for me that it was just like, oh, I had spent so much
time, you know, focused on this thing that's no longer real or
no longer, you know, what? I thought it was and it's just
like it's almost like grieving a relationship so to speak.
And it's like but then everything started to click
after that. And now my relationship with God
or Source or whatever you want to call.
It is so much stronger than it was when I thought I was.
He's doing all the right things and you know, walking the walk
or so, whatever you want to call it.
So it's really interesting how like it's kind of all
transpired. I mean, that's like a very
generalized version of my story but like it's just very
interesting how much closer I do feel to, you know, a higher
power and to heaven on Earth or what, however, you want to look
at it. But it's just like, all of the
things that I grew up believing, it's not necessarily that they
weren't true. I just see them in a different,
totally different way. Now that makes it's sense to me
and I also feel like Christianity and just religion
in general. It's like it makes God separate
from you. It makes you look outside of
yourself for for for fulfillment.
Which I feel like is the opposite of what we need as
people is like no, you need to like, look inside yourself for
for fulfillment and like that stuff isn't separate from you.
Like, we're all one at the end of the day and like, like you
were saying it's like you feel disconnected.
Well, that's why you feel disconnected is because that's
what you're taught your whole. Is that all that stuff is
outside of you all that stuff is separate from you and that's not
true. And I learned that, you know,
through different experiences that I've had and it's been,
it's been, it's been a rough road but it's been.
It's been a, it's been a good experience for Me, overall, like
the deconstruction process and just, you know, finding myself
every single day, all over again.
So, yeah. Thank you.
I have a question. So, how did that create either
like a strain or a connection with your Your parents and your
family. Like how, what was that energy?
Because I feel like when you step out of the box that
everybody wants you in because that's what's happened to me,
they exiled me like they just exiled my ass.
So I'm just wondering, like, that's a great question.
So, I mean, there is always been a level of strain in my family
Dynamics. Even before like me, you know,
kind of coming into my own it's just always been that way, you
can call me the black sheep if you want whatever my You
actually sent me this hilarious video the other day it was like,
oh the oldest child, is the one who's like Loki healing, all the
traveler that nobody is aware of like, yeah.
But like, you know my sister like I am the oldest, I have a
sister and a brother, my sisters actually adopted by my sister's
like my best friend, we probably see the world, the most,
similarly and like my brother. My mom and my dad are very like
connected in the way that they view things.
The way they do politics whatever they're right up Trump
and God's ass like as far as you can be.
So it's like and like that's no fun.
That's to everybody. It's just like that's me and my
sister differ in that way from them.
So she's the only person that I really don't feel exiled from
and like me and my parents. We've tried to move through some
of that stuff and I feel like now that like, you know, I don't
live with them anymore. I'm going to totally different
state than my family. It has given us the space that
we need to not be so dysfunctional and for them to
like see me as my own person and just to accept me.
As an adult because I think it's like hard for parents sometimes
to like, realize that like, oh, your kids going to grow up and
be their own person and they might not think exactly the way
that you think or believe and I feel like that was really
difficult for my parents, but like me and my dad, we have a
great relationship. Now my mom and I not so much but
it's always been like that, it's not because of me finding, you
know, spirituality and things like that.
My mom and I have always been on the rocks for many different
reasons and like I think my brother had a hard time Time.
Like, you know, he has a hard time with things that I say and
things that I believe, but he's also a tourist so he's thick
headed, so I hope so but like I love, I love my family, despite
our differences, it definitely was difficult.
I can remember like certain times when like I was on
vacation with my dad's family and he found my tarot cards
because it's like, they were just like laying in my room and
be keishon and he like blew his lid and was like, you know, just
was not happy about it. In front of everybody.
And this was before like cry, even was like really doing Taro.
Like I said, like I'm more. So like Did It For Fun back in
the day it was just like, oh, like I'm just gonna like pull
card and, like, whatever. I wasn't even that serious about
it, but the reaction that he had towards it.
I just got so emotional and after that, I was like, why
don't I get so emotional about something that like, I don't
even, you know what I mean? I didn't even practice it that
much, but that reaction that I had towards his reaction, kind
of told me that like, there was something deeper there that I
needed to kind. Of Explorer.
Because now it is like very important to me and very
influential in my practice and just, you know, in my life and,
you know, whatever. But at the time I didn't know
that it was going to be that way, but the reaction that I had
towards my dad being very upset about finding those things.
I was like, hmm, I should probably explore.
Why that, you know, gave me such an emotional reaction, like, why
I have like this attachment to this thing.
And it's interesting because like my dad, like loves
astrology, like loves looking at the Are so it's like he does
have, like, he does have like a little bit of, you know, new a
Genus within him. But it's like he's I just feel
like once you're on the path of Christianity, it's really,
really hard to break away from like I just feel like you just
don't see anything else. Like it's just like blinders on
and like you can't accept other things like at least in my
family's experience. I should say I shouldn't
generalize but that's It's just kind of where it is, but like I
am able to be more open at least with my dad about things and I
think that moving definitely helps.
But at first it was, it wasn't the easiest.
But like I said, it wasn't because of that, that my
relationship with my family with strained.
We've kind of all had, you know, a difficult Road, you know, in
our upbringing and things like that, but that definitely did
not help and it definitely added to the dysfunction, but I think
we're all on a much better page now, which is great.
What do you think upset him so much about the tarot cards?
You think that he didn't understand?
And then now that you have kind of dived a little bit more into
your spirituality and like expressing your authentic self?
Do you think that even though they don't agree with you in a
line with that there's more understanding because your
family, even if they don't agree with like the things that you
say like you were talking about with your brother, they can see
an evolution. Ian and you changing as a person
and like embracing new parts of yourself and evolving and doing
better. So is there a change in the
dynamic with that? Yeah, I definitely think that
there is a couple of reasons for that.
Like you said, like, just seeing me grow as a person, but it's
like, I think that the indoctrination in the church is
just so strong that it's like, you're just led to believe that
Taro witchcraft like that's evil.
It's from the devil, you know what I mean?
So I think like that was my dad's.
Concern was just like oh my God, my daughter's going to hell like
even like with his own father. Like who is my pup?
Obviously like he's not doing the greatest, but he's been
trying to get him saved, you know, for as long as I can
remember. And that's all he tries to do
with this. Dad is get him saved him.
So you've got him saved and I'm like, he's like whatever I'm not
going to go into that, but I just feel like that's so it's so
indoctrinated to people that like anything that's not of God,
or what's in the Bible? Or, you know what the church
says like. It is from hell is from the
devil. And I think that my dad was
just, like, literally concerned for my salvation, and was like,
oh, she's going down a dark path.
But, I think that now, because he's kind of seen and not that,
I even tried to explain it to him because in the moment, I did
try to explain to him, but it just wasn't, he wasn't receptive
to it. He didn't take it.
Well, I think that because he he has seen the path that I've gone
on and just like how I've grown as a person.
And I think like and I honestly think that he watches some of my
Tick-Tock sometimes because he's, like, he's given hints
that he has. So I think that like, the
message that I generally try to spread is one of healing and one
of self-acceptance and things like that, like whether it's,
I'm doing that through tarot or other things.
So it's like, he doesn't really have ground stand on.
If you were to say that like you know, what I'm doing is evil or
what I'm practicing is from the devil.
So I do think that there is a better level of acceptance
towards it and like, even In like my mom even though like we
don't speak like she actually sent me something in the mail
that was there not tarot cards but they're like little
affirmation cards and things like that.
And I thought that that was like really nice.
So I know that my parents secretly do watch my social
media because of things like that, where it's like, I don't
talk to them about that stuff and they don't bring it up, but
there's like little hints here and there, that it's like they
are supportive in their own way even if they can't admit that,
they're supportive because it would go against what they
believe. If that makes sense, my dad
whenever First started talking about spirituality and was
coming into my own. He asked me if I was a part of a
cult but you thought that this was like a cult and it was real
weird and he has talked a lot of fear into the into the journey,
because I'm so like, unwavering on it that he's tried to like,
instill that like, Society standard.
Like, you can't do that as a real job.
I know Jim and I was family's done the same thing like, well,
how could you make that work with This and without knowing,
and, you know, all these things that the fear based mentality
that keeps people working that 9 to 5 and go into the job, they
hate for 40 years and so my dad in the last few years because
you mentioned being a tourist. Me and my dad have the same
birthday and we're both Christmas.
So you know, we have a lot of astrological similarities in a
way that I feel like my dad, he tries to his best.
Understand with the limited information like he's not
willing to read a book or like tap in any further.
It's just like limited information on the sidelines and
so I think people have sent him like my YouTube and my videos
and things start popping up and that's originally on my dad
found out that I got covered in tattoos during the pandemic.
Like I didn't see my whole family for like a year and just
got padded and so yeah. So my dad like he he's realizing
that this is Making me really happy and I'm helping people but
he still thinks it's a cult. Yeah, I get that.
I feel like there's always going to be a little bit of an
aversion to it but like I feel like your parents always come
when I always, I shouldn't say that but I feel like your
parents do come around at the end of the day and just
supporting you in their own way. Even if it's not the way that
you would like them to support you, and I also think like with
a fear-based mentality, it is always coming from a place of,
you know, one projection. But it's also coming from a
place because they genuinely genuinely do care.
It's just in a weird way that They're showing it.
It's like we want you to be successful, you don't want, you
know what I mean? Like, it's I don't think it's
coming from necessarily a place where it's like, they don't want
to support you. I just think it's like this
worrisome thing because it's like, that's how they were
raised. It's like you have to work for
the rest of your life, you grind till you die and it's like, we
see things differently and that's confusing to them.
They're like, what you can just do whatever you want.
It's like, well, yeah, I can watch me, but I just think that
that's like such a cognitive dissonance thing for that
generation. Shouldn't specifically because
they just, they weren't raised in that mentality.
And it was just, I don't like to say narrow-minded, but a little
bit, Yeah, a narrow-minded. So it's just like hard for them
to grasp like that you could help people or that you could,
you know, make a business out of spirituality or whatever it is
that you're trying to do. It's like now everything's kind
of accessible and everything's on the table for somebody to do
or make, you know, a living off of or whatever it is, which is
Is amazing because that wasn't available to them.
So I don't think like, I think that that's why is because it
wasn't necessarily available to them so they're like, I don't
get it. But yeah, I do think that it is
like, it is fear-based, for sure, but it's like their own
fears and it's like, coming from a place of.
I care about you and I don't want you to fuck your life up.
You know what I mean? But it's not necessarily coming
from the the greatest place. You know what I mean?
I mean, that's my opinion for the most part, I know that.
People's parents are not supportive at all in any shape
or form. So it's funny in general, I feel
like Do you guys feel like knowing that your parents have
those opinions and like that? That's in the back of your mind
that that adds fuel for you? For me?
I know that my parents don't understand what I'm doing and
that they don't understand how I'm going to make it work and
whatever. And I'm always the like I'm
going to show you. You think that it's weird and
I'm not going to be able to do it and I will not be behind a
desk for the rest of my life. So like I'm going to make this
happen so that I can prove it to you and It was the biggest
motivator for me for like building my stuff up in the
beginning was like you don't see how I'm going to make it happen.
I don't know how I'm gonna make it happen but God damn it.
I will make it happen and I feel like that's so integrated now
into my purpose. Do you guys feel that way?
I don't feel like I'm work from a place of love that because
I've literally genuinely don't care like I just don't care and
being an only child. I know I've talked about this
before. There's No one else to validate
my experience or contrast of experience with.
So at the end of the day, I just feel like I'm here to fuck.
Shit up and take names. I will have a yacht.
I will do everything I say I'm going to do.
And I think what, one day, my family will catch on and they'll
be like, wow, and they'll be like, I should have believed in
you and I'm always looking at the people's family members who
are like willing to give their kidney for their kids college
tuition or Ever and I look at this as like I came here to do
it my own way and not feel like anyone can hold anything over my
head. So I just don't really care.
I don't know, I don't ever think about that.
But my mom and me have gotten so close since getting into it with
my spirituality, because I learned that she was just her
own person, having her own experiences and going through
her own trauma, and that was just projected onto me.
So, I started to see my mom is like a Human Instead of like
this person that was supposed to protect and Save.
Save me but instead this person who was also struggling and
going through her own addictions and vices and shitty
relationships and whatever, and then like I was always caught
between my parents drama. So I feel like just kind of
separating myself from that drama and now it's just like
don't ask don't tell energy like I don't, I don't know what we're
doing but I'm going to do it and so I kind of like to tell people
what I'm doing after I've done it.
So I don't really like Prepare them for anything.
It's just like, yeah, I got a face that to Mom, you know,
Richard Pryor. I'm gonna be like, I did it, you
know? So, just kidding mom.
I mean, for me, I feel like it's a little bit of both.
Like, yes, I don't care at the end of the day because if I did
care that, I wouldn't be doing what I was doing.
Like if I was so focused on like still craving my parents
validation, which was a huge issue for me like throughout my
entire life, like I wouldn't be on your Podcast right now, like
I wouldn't be talking to you guys right now, so I feel like
there is a little bit of, you know, like watch me because I
want to prove you wrong but it's not even in a prove you wrong.
It's just like I want to show you what's possible type of
thing and I feel like with anything it's like, you know,
you can't wake everybody up. We know that.
But like you can still hold the light and lead for people to
watch you even if they don't get it.
Like people have to come to terms with things like that on
their own, nobody can force you. To believe something or to see
something like, people have to see it and experience it for
themselves. So it's like, I get that they
don't get it. And like, you were saying, like,
it's like, I've also, you know, come to learn that.
Like, my parents are just wounded in her children like we
all are like everybody's walking around with their, you know,
hurting her child at the end of the day.
And I feel like, you know, we don't always see her parents
that way, but I feel like when you are able to take that lens
on, it gives you a little more grace and compassion for me, the
things that That they did to you or how they treated you and
things like that. But and again just seeing them
as a human versus like oh you're supposed to be perfect because
you're my parent because that's not realistic.
But I feel like we do have these standards for our parents which
is acceptable. I think like you should be held
to a certain standard as a parent, but at the end of the
day it's just like they don't know what they're doing either.
So it's like nobody knows what they're doing at the end of the
day, we're all humans. Just living our own Journey,
whether spiritual or not. But I do feel like it's more.
So in the sense like it's a little bit of both.
Like it's like, yes, I don't care what you think.
But to I do care about you. So I'm going to still hold the
light and if you want to follow me great or if you get it, you
get it and if you don't that's okay too.
Like I accept you regardless, you know what I mean?
And that's kind of how I am with everybody.
It's like, I don't really care what anybody believes.
I accept you, no matter what you're entitled to your beliefs
and like, and I'm also entitled to mine soon.
Like, I feel like it is like a little bit of a mixture.
ER of both for me. How do you feel about
reincarnation and about picking certain Souls that you have this
experience with? Because I know for sure, like me
and my mom have been sisters before.
Like, when I started learning about astrology, I found out
that I'm a Taurus, but my moon is in Libra.
My mom is a Libra and her moon is in Taurus.
So, we're literally day and night opposite, and I'm like, it
makes so much sense. Like everything started to add
up when I started to dive into astrology.
G. But I'm also really a big
advocate for like reincarnation and like the past life's and
picking certain people that you keep going through and
experience with. So do you feel like you picked
all of this with your family to kind of learn and find your
spirituality because being exposed to Christianity is like
one extreme to the next and like I wasn't exposed to any
religion. I've never set foot in a church
of my parents. My mom was raised Baptist but
never carried that through any. Part of her adult life.
You know what I mean? So at the end of the day, I've
never been around religion. I've just kind of been there
like, nobody was really forcing me to believe anything.
I was just there and I feel like some of the beliefs that I've
developed are really about like this longevity of the souls
experience and not just the human or the body and I think
that's what keeps me going when things like happened.
Like, I got summoned for jury duty or just inconveniences at
the been. Since I'm always like, it's
okay, like my soul, pick this or like, whatever.
And I find a lot of Peace in that knowing that we picked
certain trials, or tribulations to learn and grow from.
And I feel very empowered by the stuff that used to make me feel
like week or ashamed. I feel like super empowered by
all of my trauma now and so I'm like very thankful that my
parents, you know, didn't shelter me and I was exposed to
a lot of crazy stuff because it's help me.
Me in my like later 20s. And now I'm 30s as like, in this
Gap, I've learned so much and Incorporated it, but thinking
about reincarnation is kind of like what keeps me going all the
time. Like I'm always thinking about
that. Yeah, I mean I love that you
brought that up actually because I absolutely believe that
reincarnation is a thing. I don't know like the ins and
outs of what I believe, because I feel like that's something
that I'm definitely still learning and still grasping.
But it's funny that you said that about your mom because like
different books. I've read and different things
like that. You know how you talked about
like Soul contracts and things like that.
I know I have that with my mom for sure.
But there's something that I don't even remember where it
was. That I read it, where I was like
that. Makes sense where it's like.
I think that I was her mom. Yes life.
And like it's like reverse now. So I don't know if I was a piece
of shit to her. Like maybe I was a good mom, I
have no idea but like maybe I was a piece of shit to her and
now she's a piece of shit to me and like whatever.
But it's just like I do feel that in a sense and I don't
know. Like I don't know how much I
feel about like, oh, I chose every single thing that has ever
happened to me. Do you know what I mean?
Because I do believe in Free Will and You believe that, like
some things like are mutable and changable, don't know that, I
believe that, every single thing that's ever happened to me, I
chose it before, but I do believe, like, there are
definitely certain lessons that I chose and whether I did choose
it or not, like they were lessons that I was meant to
learn. And that my soul came here to
learn and like The Reincarnation thing that I really got.
Like a download about. It was actually, I'm like my
last trip that I had. Was that like, you know, No,
eternity is here and now and that like just reconfirms
reincarnation because it's like your soul is eternal so whether
it's like you're like whether I die and then come back as
somebody else. Like that's my afterlife so to
speak. It's like it's never ending or
if I come back as a tree like you're just always going to keep
living. It's just in a different form,
maybe you know what I mean. So it's like eternity is here
and now and I really feel like that just confirms reincarnation
at least for me, but yeah. I'm still, I'm still grasping
the ins and outs of it but I definitely would like feel very
similarly to you. It's over here, thinking I
wonder where you went on your trip and then I realized what
kind of trick we go hurts. No, it was a trip and a trip all
in one, you know that? I mean, I don't know what we're
allowed to say, so no. Yeah, you're fun clearly.
I'm like an advocate for all plant medicine, or, you know,
using the tools that are here for the experience, like, using
whatever tool that is, I think a lot of people abuse the
resources that we have available.
I think anything in excess, A now is not good.
It doesn't matter if it's a really good thing too.
Much of it is never good. So I think that as humans, one
of the things that spirit always tells me is like we're in this
age of distraction and a lot of people are going to choose to
run and distract themselves the whole time they're here.
Like they're never going to worry about these traumas or
lessons or whatever. There's going to keep projecting
and harming and self. Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
And I think that the People such as everyone here.
We're actively choosing to heal even when it's uncomfortable.
And I think that no matter what, there is so much power in that
because, you know, literally like 80%, I would say of the
people on Earth are like totally not worried about a lot of
things that they should worry about, but I do try to really
give people like space and Grace to just be themselves and not
try to impose my beliefs Or judge them or anything?
Like I feel like some people because I am so spiritual.
They think that I'm not allowed to have like negative thoughts
or that. I'm not allowed to say negative
things. Or, you know, I mean that I'm
just like, I don't spread fear. That's one thing I refuse to do
is spread fear about anything, but, you know, a lot of people
get upset whenever I voice, like, those darker parts of me
because I think they really see me in this light.
And they don't see that I have the shadow side that I'm not
running from her hiding from then I'm like incorporating.
And so I do think that overall I am very attracted to people such
as yourself and Jim and I'm like, the people that we've kind
of all like collected or gathered in this spiritual
Community is like anyone who's willing to take their life
experience and expose it to the world.
So other people don't feel alone is like such a beautiful thing
to me. For sure.
And like I just think that, you know, what you said is so true.
Like it's like, people think that it's like, oh if your
spiritual you have to be in 11 light and this that the other
thing it's like, no, you have to Encompass your full self and
it's like, nobody is without Darkness.
Nobody is without, you know, their pain, their, whatever,
like we've all had human experiences and to deny that is
denying your own self denying your own experience.
So it's like I think that there is a happy medium.
So To speak. Like you said everything in
moderation but it's like think there is a happy medium of like,
you know, you don't, you know, sit in your Darkness, you work
through it, you know what I mean?
But and just like what you were saying with people who choose to
like abuse certain things like yeah, like sometimes I just do
my trips and plant medicine for fun.
But like that, that time that I'm talking about specifically,
I was util utilizing that specifically for spiritual
experience. Like I set an intention that
this is what I was going to do. I literally journaled the Why
are saying like it was very expansive for me.
Like I was talking to one of my guides that I didn't know who it
was and like they revealed themselves to me about who it
was and it was just like such a transformative like amazing
experience. And like, I've never like that
was the best trip of my life, like physically and look like
literally. But like it's just like I do,
you know when I'm doing things like that, I do try to make sure
there's an intent behind it and that I'm not like just, you know
what I mean, just doing it, for the hell of it, not that you
can't do that. But I do like, Like to utilize
it in a way that helps me grow and helps me learn and helps me
understand the world better because I do feel like you're
you get so much more connection to the universe to Nature two
things when you do things like that and not that you can't when
you're sober but it's just like on a whole different level and
it's just like on a whole different level that I just
can't even explain it. But yeah, so I agree with what
you said. I'm so jealous of your guys's
experiences because I've tried This plant medicine, tripping,
experience a couple of different times and I have had no effects
from what I have had and I won't say I've had no effects.
I I've taken a lot and there's only been one time that I just
felt any different and we had people over at our house and I
just felt like I just wanted to be by myself.
And so I just laid in my bed and my husband was like you've been
staring at the wall for hours. And I just remember sitting
there and being like, I mean, I feel a lot of anxiety right now,
and that's the only thing I remember feeling was I just felt
very anxious, but I'm so intrigued on trying for, like,
opening your third eye and having these experiences, these
spiritual experiences. And when I get to take my trip
out to see page, I really want to trip and like, go on like a
spiritual because I think, too, that like, I'm somebody who I'm
very cautious about letting my guard down, and I and being
vulnerable and situations, especially like, spiritual
situations and things. I feel like, I'm always super
aware of the people around me, and I don't want to let my guard
down and be offensive about something or freak somebody out
because like, I'm super woo. And so I feel like maybe it just
hasn't Ben the right experience. But I'm so jealous of you guys
that you've had these experiences and these like
eye-opening moments, I when it comes to like connecting with
Spirit guides in particular, I'm so attracted to that.
And I've done like guided meditations for like meeting
your Spirit guides and all kinds of things and that's something
that I've never been able to do and that I'm really looking
forward to happening. And I believe, Divine timing.
So I believe that there's probably a reason that I haven't
yet and there's a reason why I didn't have the experiences and
whatever, but I just think it's really fucking cool that you
guys can do that. I think it's levels, there's
levels to it. And if you're not ready for
what's going to come, they could hit you like a ton of bricks and
you will not have a good time. So I do think that it's like the
levels of awareness that you're unlocking will give you
different experience. Isis.
I was just going to say like I totally understand what you're
saying about. Like things is Aya tea and like
being super aware of people. Like I can be like that too.
Just like just sober. So like I totally understand
that and I feel like what's really important when you're
doing things like that, is the setting that you're in the
environment. It's like, you have to set the
stage and it's like, like I said, if you're just doing it
for fun and like whatever, like that's totally different, but if
you're having like, a specific intention or you want to have a
specific experience so to speak, It's like, it's like, when you
bless your cards or whatever it is like, you know, you can talk
to your mushrooms, you where you take them or whatever.
And it's like make sure that you're in a setting in a, in an
environment that is comfortable to you.
And I know that like, for me, especially like, depending on,
like, how much I'm doing or whatever it's like, you know,
there is that part, when I start to feel it, where I do get like
a little bit of anxiety, but it's just like, all about like,
you know, not meditating but kind of just breathing through
it and like, being able to let go like it.
It's very much about, like, if you're feeling constricted
because you're like, oh, I feel it.
Like, whatever like that, definitely happens.
And I feel like that's totally normal, but like, the more you
just kind of ease into it and breathe and do it so to speak.
Like then after that, it's like you don't even think about it
anymore, because you're in it, then.
So, it's like, I'm not trying to give you advice, but it's just
like, I do understand, like, where you're coming from, and
that's just like, certain things that have helped me is very much
like setting the stage. Having an environment that makes
me feel comfortable having things around me, that I know
that are going to make me feel comfortable.
Or whether that's like a blanket, a certain like snack
water for sure, definitely have water.
Oh, definitely want stuffed animals.
Hence why I have my stuffed animal Utopia you need soft
stuff. I personally like to be naked in
a robe with pockets, with crystals in it and like a
selenite one. Just for likes a key things.
But I'll be honest, like, I love seeing people expand into that
because I believe that's what's going to heal the world.
I believe that that's what's going to change mental health,
that's what's going to change people's perception.
That's what's going to wake the world up and I love to see
people being able to step out of their comfort zone because it is
an uncomfortable situation. I've watched Friends go through
the Dark Night of the Soul while on a trip and I've also been
there myself ugly crying for freaking hours.
So it's not always pretty, it's not always rainbows and puppies
but it is totally like You come out of it.
You're a different person every time.
Like, you don't even know who you were before.
You're so different 100%. And what you were saying about
like the Divine timing about like, oh, maybe there's a reason
I have an experience that that yet is, I 100% believe that
because every single time, like I've had a different experience
each time. It's all like come full circle
in a way that like what I learned or what I experienced
made sense and like the events leading up to it, kind of led to
that breakthrough or whatever it is.
I don't really know. How to explain that, but I do
genuinely believe that, like, that's probably the same for you
as well, and just like something that I was going to say before
when you were like, oh, I didn't really have any effects.
I was like, have you ever heard of like people saying like how
like, you know, how you would be like on mushrooms or whatever
like whatever psychedelic like that's really what the world is
like and that's really like what we're experiencing but because
like our brains like can't handle it.
Like this is us tripping like how we are right now.
So I was like, oh, maybe that's You like me?
Maybe you're just like always on hive and like they're just
always like seeing crazy shit but yeah, I do I do definitely
recommend being out in nature because I think it's like you
get the coolest visuals. And you really see just like how
everything connects in the world.
Like I can't even explain it. Like I wish I could draw it or
like send you like a visual representation but it's just
like I highly recommend like doing those things out in
nature. I mean, if nature is not your
thing then, definitely don't. But like I said, make sure that
you're comfortable But I do feel like they're like when it's your
time to have like a download as an experience whatever like you
will absolutely have one. And like I said, just like, you
know, talk to your little mushy peas and like be like, hey like
this is what I want to happen. This is what I want to
experience like help me out guys.
Like I know that sounds again. Whoa, but I know that you guys
will understand that. So I mean, that's just kind of
my tips, or at least like what I do, you know what I'm doing
that. So you know what's funny about
the nature thing? Like, I like nature.
I like I love going out in nature and I'm like, I like
water. Like I want to be here.
I, I know that so many people find nature relaxing.
I am so over stimulated when I am out in nature and there's so
many sounds in there, so many things and I also grew up in the
mountains in Northern California, which is like bears
and mountain lions and fucking hoog Sasquatches nephew like
everything is out there and so I always Always had this fear of
like the forest in general, even though like that is my comfort
place. And so my husband's like when we
do it like you have to be out in nature.
It'll be like I'm just gonna and I'm like, I am most comfortable
sitting on my bed, then do that. Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I need to do it at Paige's house, when she's making
anaerobic and we can touch her. You guys are gonna have a great
experience. I think that's what's going to
pop for you, for real. Yeah.
Like if like I said, if nature is not your thing then devotes
gonna pop situation honestly. I did some out in nature before
and it was like a thousand and ten degrees outside and like in
the beginning of the day, it was real cool.
And by the end of the day or like mid-afternoon, I was
literally coming unglued. I was melting from the inside
out and it was not fun and I got nasty, like, kind of rude to
everyone because I was so hot and bothered if you will, and it
look was not cool. So, I do recommend on, like, a
fall, crisp fall setting, good to go, but summer, not cold, Jim
and I said she doesn't like summer that she gets seasonal
depression during summer and I kind of get that too because now
I'm starting to feel really revived and like instead of
taking naps every afternoon, I'm like wanting to take a walk or
like frolic. Yard or something because I'm
just like, I love this weather and I love the seasons when they
change, it's like my favorite time.
So when you started your spiritual business, what was
your goal? Like where you just putting
yourself out there? Or did you have like, I want to
Have clients or like was that your initial goal because when I
started I had no idea I was going to have clients.
I just had no idea that like I would build an actual business
from it. I thought I was just like
reading cards for my friends or like helping people but nothing
like I'm doing now, very similar, and I'm probably even
newer to the game than you, I would say.
I mean, I don't know that for sure, but I feel like a lot of
it was me being led. Those things like I didn't know
what I was going to do, it was just like this is what you're
supposed to do. And I was like, okay, like I'm
very much like resisted doing what I'm doing now for a very,
very long time. I was like, nope, that's not me.
I'm not going to do that. Like, that's not for me like and
then it just became a thing where I was pushed by, you know,
Spirit by my guides by my higher self and by other people as
well, telling me that like you need to put yourself out there
more like you should do this. Like, you have a gift like blah,
blah, blah. And I was like, oh okay.
Like I was very very Very hesitant about it and now it's
like, I don't know again. I don't know why I didn't start
sooner. That's how I am with, pretty
much everything. It's like I talked myself out of
things and then once I do it, I'm like, God damn it.
Why don't you ever listen to yourself?
But yeah, so it was a little bit of like me, encouraging myself
on an internal level and people telling me that like, oh, I
think that you should do this. I see this for you or see that
you have, you know, these gifts or whatever.
And at first, it was just like, you know, I'm just going to put
myself out there slowly. But surely and then people
started asking me because I didn't do personal readings at
first I was just, you know, doing stuff on my stories and
posting, you know, General readings and affirmations or
whatever never liked people would just having, oh, do you do
personal reasons? Like, no other, like, people
would keep asking me and I was like, okay, like there is
something to this, like I'm going to give the people what
they want, you know what I mean? So that's kind of like how it
started was just like people encouraging me, people telling
me to again go on Tick-Tock because I wasn't on Tick-Tock up
until last year like the tomorrow.
I was going to be like my year anniversary of being on Tik-Tok
so like I wish I would have started that sooner but it
doesn't matter. Like I've like, I have built a
great community and I love it over there.
Like I said, like I preferred over there, to be honest, but
that was encouraged. You know, by other people
telling me to do that and I was very hesitant towards that as
well. So it was just more so people
telling me that they wanted me to do that.
So I was like okay like I'll give it a shot and yeah it's
been really good. Like obviously like my end goal
is to not have to work. 925 like you said, not have to work
behind a desk and Link, be able to, you know, set my own
schedule and to just like be free and do things that they
actually want to do. And that I'm passionate about
versus working for the man, Even though, like, I mean, I am
fortunate like I do have a good work environment where I work
that it's just I don't want to do it like I that's not what I
meant to do. That's not what I think
anybody's meant to do at the end of the day but yeah that is my
end goal is to, you know, somehow build something that's
Enough, whether it's with just Arrow or with something else
that, you know, comes to me through Spirit, or through, you
know, an idea that I have to build something substantial
enough where I don't have to rely on a 9 to 5 where I don't
have to rely on anybody but myself to you know make my
dreams come true so to speak and like give myself you know a good
life. So that's the end goal we're at
the very beginning stages of that end goal.
But yeah, that's kind of how it all transpired for me.
I love that. I really love seeing so many
people in the beginning phases of their journey and I feel like
this is a good breaking point we definitely want to get you back
on to the podcast as you develop this.
I love you. Yeah you guys do this is the
sweetest Aura. It's like super purple and pink
right now and it's just it's very sweet.
It's very happy it's very inviting.
I also feel like You're doing a really good job of like
connecting with your inner child.
I was kind of getting that message that like your inner
child's really proud of you. I don't think that you're giving
yourself like as much credit as like Spirit wants you to kind of
give yourself and I think that's what's cool about bringing
people together and Community is so we can all celebrate one
another you know, we're real big on like we don't compete, we I
don't care if we all do the same exact thing on the same, exact
day at the same, exact time, it will be different and I love
that energy. So go ahead and just let
everyone One know where they can find you.
And then, we will also link all of your socials in this
description box. So if you want to go ahead and
just let people know, yes. So I am at Shannon teal and then
it's sha and N, 0, n, n n, 23 ends, and then teal is my middle
name. T, EA, L, Instagram, and
Tick-Tock are both the same. I am on YouTube as well, but
that's mostly just my music stuff.
So I do post my personal readings on their unlisted for
when people book Still readings from you.
They'll go on my YouTube and I'll give them an unlisted link,
so that they can have, you know, the video forever and ever at
their fingertips, that never goes away.
But yeah, YouTube is mostly just for my music and stuff.
But if you're trying to follow me for personal readings, just
healing stuff and funny stuff. I'm on Tick, Tock and Instagram
at Shannon teal and we will link that in the bottom.
I am so grateful. Thank you so much for coming on
to our podcast and we really look forward to tapping back in
with you. In the next like six months and
just kind of seeing all of this grow.
And I bet I have a feeling that when you come back, you're going
to have taken the leap into your business.
Hell yeah. Thank you guys.
I appreciate it so much and I still want that shirt.
So we're going to talk about that.
Yeah, we'll talk about that. I'm actually, I'm gonna pull you
a card from Pages. Dex, I'm going to text you when
we're done because I just felt like I needed to awesome.
Thank you guys so much. I love this.
This is amazing. Thank you for coming to
Candyland. Thank you.
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