1 00:00:16,750 --> 00:00:21,750 Welcome to Mind Escape. Are you ready? 2 00:00:24,990 --> 00:00:28,510 Are you ready to escape your mind? 3 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,080 All right, folks, welcome back to Mike and Maurice's Mind 4 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:02,280 Escape. Hello. #327 this is the last 5 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,920 episode of Mind Escape. One point O Not that we'll never 6 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,440 see Maurice again. I'm sure I'll be doing some 7 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,000 stuff with him here. But yeah, this is the last one 8 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,600 of the conventional lifestyle that we've done for almost 8 9 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,960 years now. Wow, what a journey. 10 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Yeah. Brings a tear to the eye, yeah. 11 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,240 I know I haven't done an episode in a while either, but I've been 12 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,320 working solely on Masters of Rhetoric. 13 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,480 If you haven't already, please go check out my other podcast 14 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:43,240 slash YouTube channel, Masters of Rhetoric based on ancient 15 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Greece and the earliest philosophers and pre Socratics 16 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,600 and Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, all that kind of jazz. 17 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,440 There's already a lot of content on there. 18 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,280 There's a ton of shorts. There's five episodes. 19 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,560 I'm working on another five. And just so everybody knows, 20 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,800 this is a transitional episode. I will be continuing with Mind 21 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Escape, but it'll be known as New Telos, which means new 22 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,160 purpose. For the last eight years, we've 23 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,040 been investigating mysteries and the fringe and borderline stuff. 24 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:23,440 And yeah, things change, ideas change, philosophies change. 25 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,560 So the podcast is going to change a little bit. 26 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,640 We'll talk about that more here in a minute. 27 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Before we get started again, check out Masters of Rhetoric 28 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:41,160 links down below. Check out our our link tree. 29 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,600 Also, by the way, I've taken down most of the older episodes 30 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,280 we've done. This will be episode 327. 31 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,800 Most of the older episodes are on Patreon for $2.00 a month. 32 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,200 They're archived now, so if you want to go check that out, 33 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,640 they've been free for the last eight years, but I'm kind of 34 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:01,200 redoing everything. So they're not going anywhere. 35 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,080 You can go watch them. But again, they're $2.00 a 36 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,520 month. And, you know, we appreciate 37 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,120 everybody we've had on as a guest and friends and people 38 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,960 we've met along the way, But all good things come to an end or 39 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,160 change, and that's what's happening here, so. 40 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Yeah, you got to embrace the change or you get you get brain 41 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,840 bubbles, as they say. Well, I mean, how could you do 42 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,560 something for? Well, I mean, the other thing is 43 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,400 like, how could you do something for eight years and not evolve 44 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,160 and change and stuff. You know, I find it. 45 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,240 As well. I've seen it, I've seen people 46 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,320 and it's like that. That's that's when trouble 47 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,560 happens. In their lives. 48 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Because change isn't easy, you know what I mean? 49 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Like, that's the problem. It's the change part is always 50 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,200 going to be a challenge in some way or or another. 51 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,400 And it's some people don't want to ever confront the change and 52 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,240 then the change becomes them, which is just not good. 53 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,600 So that's it. And that's the show, folks. 54 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,880 But yeah, I mean, I've, I've, I'm, you know, for the most 55 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,240 part, I see lots of people that do good research and they're 56 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,600 always evolving their opinions and ideas and everything like 57 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,960 that. But there's still people that 58 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,800 are kind of doing the same stuff, saying the same things, 59 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,600 repeating the same stuff and more power to them. 60 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,320 That's just not what we're looking to do or what I'm 61 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:27,360 looking to do. So And so Maurice hasn't been on 62 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,080 in a while. I think the last time you were 63 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,600 on, we just talked about how you just got engaged with the 64 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,560 Galapagos. Oh. 65 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,480 OK. Why don't you give us a little 66 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,680 update? What's been happening since? 67 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:44,840 Yeah, you know, I, I, I got married, my wife moved in here 68 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:50,480 in the last September and yeah, I just been staying busy. 69 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,160 I have a production company. I think everybody knows I 70 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,440 started doing weddings and stuff like that and then, you know, we 71 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,160 hooked up and I started doing a lot of social media content and 72 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,760 stuff. But I actually, my wife is, is 73 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Latin. She's from Ecuador. 74 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,680 So I actually have been helping her develop a Learn how to Speak 75 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Spanish course with one of her other friends, which is pretty 76 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,240 cool. It's a whole, it's this kind of 77 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,000 new concept that we call it Maria's Spanish Lounge. 78 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,840 It's like a nightclub kind of atmosphere. 79 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:25,640 We, it, it, I don't know if you've, there's like a concept 80 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,920 called immersion where you kind of immerse yourself. 81 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,120 A lot of people really subscribe to that because it's one thing 82 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,560 that, you know, go on these Duolingo in these apps and stuff 83 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,800 like that, you learn words. But the real way to learn is 84 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,680 either go to the country and just get yourself right in 85 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,480 there. So we're kind of taking that 86 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,400 concept and bringing it into like what we call these happy 87 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,360 hours. We, the course is 2 * a week and 88 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,040 then we have, you know, these happy hours twice a week and 89 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,240 stuff like that. But if they if people want to 90 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,280 find out more, there's a link in the description and that'll take 91 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:59,880 you to our YouTube channel. I would love to, if you guys 92 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,920 follow, we do these little bite sized courses where you can 93 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,240 learn a phrase here or there. But on the on on our YouTube 94 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,480 channel, there's a link to the wait list and that'll give you a 95 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,840 bunch of more information about it. 96 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:12,560 But yeah, man, it's super cool. Like a lot of people, I didn't 97 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,560 even realize it. Like 8 million people are 98 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,400 actively learning Spanish in the United States alone. 99 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,360 So I thought it was really cool. Like I said, her friend, her and 100 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,800 her friend are really energetic, positive, like they just have a 101 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,000 good vibe to them. So I'm, I have no doubt in my 102 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,200 mind that once we get this ball rolling, people will really 103 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,480 gravitate and, and learn from them. 104 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,600 But just like any other business, we're kind of trying 105 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,760 to find our footing and stuff. But like I said, I think we have 106 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,640 a really unique mechanism with these lounge type of of of 107 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,080 method. It's it's a lot fun. 108 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,760 It's there's way more fun and activity and like people kind of 109 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,920 conversing and just. Say you almost said it. 110 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,440 It's funner dude. It's. 111 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Funner. Dude, it's not a word, but it's 112 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:51,960 fun. I. 113 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,800 Know, I know, and I've said it a million times. 114 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,480 But so yeah, that's what's what's what's been going. 115 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,920 I'm glad to get back on here because I did over the last year 116 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,560 just talk about change. My whole life has been kind of 117 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,160 change and and. Dude, you are a completely 118 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,360 different, I mean, I'm very, I'm very different than when we 119 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,960 started Mindscape, but you are like a kind of a completely 120 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,600 different person. Yeah, so again, I try and keep 121 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,160 the core of myself, you know, viral, jovial, goofy, just 122 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,440 having a good time. But substances and things of 123 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,320 that nature were really keeping me down. 124 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,880 And I know you joke about it, you call me Mr. Vibrations and 125 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,440 stuff like that, but I really, again, the stuff that I talked 126 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,560 about today, this is really my path. 127 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,200 And I found religion. I, I mean, I didn't find it. 128 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,080 I've always had it in my life, but I'm not really going to go 129 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,280 into the particulars of what religion or what or stuff like 130 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,520 that because I really don't want to. 131 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,960 And I'm and I've lost religion, OK. 132 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,240 Yeah, yeah, I'm. Losing I'm losing this I'm. 133 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,560 Sitting in a room, ladies and gentlemen, and we're that's. 134 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,760 That dichotomy right there. Yeah, I, I, again, I just want 135 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,000 to reiterate like, I'm not going to go into like the particulars 136 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,640 about what religion I'm talking about because that's, that is 137 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,920 the truth for me. I just want to encourage other 138 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,080 people to kind of find their truth because when you're on the 139 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,960 right path, when you're doing the right things, when you're 140 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,920 connected, and I'll just say we'll just call it the universe. 141 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,400 When you're connected right to the universe, you'll get signs 142 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,000 and things. My experience I take as a sign 143 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,440 and you'll, you'll, you'll understand when I, when I kind 144 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,640 of go in more about it. But like I said, I really don't 145 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,240 like. I'm excited. 146 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,960 I haven't heard the story, by the way, where the story that 147 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,039 we're about to dive into, which is Maurice's paranormal 148 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,400 experience, I don't know. I actually don't know anything 149 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,040 about it. He knows pretty much all about 150 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,760 all my weird experiences just from doing the podcast over the 151 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,800 years. And I don't think I've had 152 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,480 anything crazy since, you know, we talked still a lot now that 153 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,720 I, we live 10 minutes from each other now too. 154 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,480 But yeah, I don't, there's not much of my weird stuff you don't 155 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,560 know about. But this is going to be 156 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,240 interesting 'cause I don't know anything about this story and 157 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,560 I'm I'm ready to pick it apart. Well, again, I've always been a 158 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:14,320 skeptic. I've always been embracing of 159 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,640 supernatural paranormal. I've never Pooh poohed anything. 160 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,880 We made a whole documentary about it and stuff like that, 161 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,360 and I wasn't like sitting there and being like, is this guy 162 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,280 telling the truth or not? I just your truth is your truth 163 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,800 and stuff like that. Before we get going, I want to 164 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,520 ask everybody to smash the like button. 165 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,960 That really helps us push this out. 166 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,600 This is going to be the end of an era, but it's a positive 167 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 thing in the sense that Michael's starting this whole 168 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,880 other adventure. And again, I would love to 169 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,440 continue down the road and, and, and help him and be a part of it 170 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,960 when I can. But yeah, man, I don't know. 171 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,240 I I mean, I can jump into the story and you can kind of just 172 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,560 like treat it as a regular so. Again, I just want to point out 173 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:53,400 this is going to be probably the last one. 174 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Not that I'll never do anything live again, but I mean, we've 175 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,920 been doing a live podcast for eight years and I want to do 176 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:03,080 something different. And from doing Masters of 177 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,320 Rhetoric, I've learned that I like putting visuals together 178 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,920 and audio and editing and things like that. 179 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,680 So and maybe, you know, like I said, I want to use you in the 180 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:15,120 future. Maybe you can help me edit 181 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,560 things or whatever. Give me your opinion on things 182 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,240 too and stuff like that. But yeah, this will be the last 183 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,000 like live in the moment thing. And going forward, it'll be more 184 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,720 manicured. And edited. 185 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely. Right on. 186 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,360 Well. Dive right in. 187 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:40,680 So I was going to my friend's house. 188 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,080 I went over to my friend's house who I have a business with, and 189 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,480 we were really working hard on this project. 190 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,600 He's like my best. He's like a brother to me 191 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,720 essentially. So we were really deep in this 192 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,640 project and it was like just tons of hours and it was, it 193 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,960 wore us down. And I went on a vacation, came 194 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,320 back and it was, it was, it sucked because of the vacation 195 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,080 was planned and it was like right in the middle of like the, 196 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,640 the big workload. So again, this, this part of the 197 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,480 story doesn't really matter. The, the bottom line is I went 198 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,720 over to my friend's house and we kind of got into an argument 199 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,720 about, you know, the workload and, and I wasn't really, I 200 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,880 wasn't there for all these issues that came up and it was 201 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,160 just tough. And again, we got into a like a 202 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,520 yelling match. And I'm not a big confrontation 203 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,080 person. I know, I mean, most people 204 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,400 aren't big confrontation person, but I was just, I was taken back 205 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,000 by the whole thing and I, I was kind of just kind of, you know, 206 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,480 just I just belittle. I'm not, I don't want to say I 207 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,880 was belittle. I was just like I felt down. 208 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,800 I felt bad about the whole experience. 209 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,480 And I went home and I lived alone at the time and I went 210 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,640 home and I was like, I'm going to go for a walk. 211 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,920 So usually when I walk or ride my bike or do anything like 212 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,440 that, I get to clear my mind and, and, and that's a good 213 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,880 thing. So I, I went for a walk and I 214 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,760 remember, I walked outside my house and my, my shades were 215 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,840 open and I was like, oh man, I shouldn't leave my shades open. 216 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,360 I don't like people looking into my living room and like seeing 217 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,280 my TV or whatever. But I was like, whatever, I'm 218 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,640 already outside. I'll just, I'm walking around 219 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,480 the neighborhood. I'm not that worried about 220 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,880 someone looking into my house. So I left my house and the 221 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:33,000 neighbor directly across from my house, they had their door open 222 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:39,240 and I never, I never see their door open late in the evening 223 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,160 and it was dark out. So I was like, oh, their, their, 224 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,440 their doors open. That's I've never seen their 225 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,960 door open. And I was like looking in their 226 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:53,600 house and I saw this like shadow in the house and it was 227 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,160 standing. I don't know if I can even show 228 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,320 you. It was like you could see. 229 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,840 Like Pan, Peter. Like so you could see the holes 230 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,120 of the arms. Yeah, like the Peter Pan shadow 231 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,480 like. Yeah, exactly, exactly. 232 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,920 Just. Like or hook or whatever, 233 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,320 whatever your favorite you. Know so I saw that and I was 234 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,640 like oh I'm standing like that It must be the shadow cast from 235 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,240 me. At first I was scared I was like 236 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,640 wow that's weird because I was looking in the doorway and I 237 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,480 didn't see any person. So then I'll then my, my science 238 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,320 mind started to, to activate and I was like, well, if someone was 239 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:44,040 standing back in the hallway and a light was shining from behind 240 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,600 them, I know the people that live there, no one has the 241 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,040 shape. It was like a perfect, I guess 242 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,360 male shape and, and, and it's an older man and the, the, the guy 243 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,160 that lives at this house does not have the shape. 244 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,680 But again, who knows. And then so I was like, it's 245 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:01,640 maybe that was him. And then I thought, oh, well, 246 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,320 maybe it was me. And then I just walked. 247 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,520 I just walked away and I can't carry it on my walking. 248 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,360 And you're, you're completely sober, just like tired and 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,440 stressed out from work or. Whatever, I wasn't even tired. 250 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,880 I mean, this is like, so this is, I think this was in 251 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:21,400 September in Michigan. So the sun goes down around, I 252 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,080 don't know, like 7 or 730. It was like it was like right 253 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,000 around like 8:00, it was like the sun went down and I was 254 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,840 totally sober and I was not that tired. 255 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,280 So again, in my mind, I'm running through. 256 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:41,000 Was it the light from a, from a light pole, you know, street 257 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,440 light shining on me, projecting in there and I just walked away 258 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,280 And when I was down half down my street, like, why didn't I like 259 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,160 investigate that? But I convinced myself that it 260 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,920 was probably just my shadow. So then I walked around the 261 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,160 block and then when I came back to that area, I was like testing 262 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,480 the shadow. So I was like putting myself. 263 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,320 I was like, can I project that image into that? 264 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,640 The thing that was crazy was it was a, it was perfectly in the 265 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,080 door. So either the guy was standing 266 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,200 in his doorway with a light shining behind him backlighting 267 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:22,520 him perfectly into a shadow, or I don't know. 268 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,560 So whatever. I looked at the house again and 269 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,160 the door was closed and I was just like OK, whatever was the 270 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,200 way. I didn't honest to God, I 271 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,440 thought it was some kind of ghost at 1st and I thought it 272 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,840 was like a bad thing. And when I went into my house, 273 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:47,280 the shades were closed and I was like, OK, maybe this is what 274 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,560 happens when when stuff, whenever something strange 275 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,200 happens to me, I always just second guess it. 276 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,680 It's almost like when you have a dream, you wake up, it's very, 277 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,520 very real. And then as the day goes on, 278 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,720 you're just like, Oh yeah, that was just fake or whatever. 279 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,480 That's what this kind of felt like. 280 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,080 But I went into my house and I remember the shades were closed 281 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,000 and I was like, I don't remember closing those. 282 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:15,600 So it's not the craziest ghost story or whatever. 283 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,960 But that's not really the point because that's not really the 284 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,000 sign at hand. So I had that experience and I 285 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,760 saw that figure and it was, it resonated in my mind the way, 286 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,560 like I said, the way they, the person or figure, whatever was 287 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,080 standing, like you said, the Peter Pan with the hands on the 288 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,760 side in the perfect outline of a whatever it may be. 289 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,120 So I, I just, I never really thought about it again. 290 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,120 And then me and my wife went into it's like counseling before 291 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,320 you get married and you meet with I guess there's no way 292 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,000 around this. I met with my priest and I've 293 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,880 always been Christian my whole life, but I was kind of turned 294 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:05,079 off by the Catholic religion just for, for I don't even know. 295 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:06,880 I mean, I was, I was always non denomination. 296 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,240 I was just kind of Christian my whole life because my mom, she 297 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,440 was Catholic, but then she got divorced and then the church 298 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,359 kind of pushed her away. And that was a big, you know, 299 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:21,040 kind of turn off or whatever. But I, my wife is hardcore 300 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,400 Catholic and I, I have no problem with it. 301 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,160 Again, I'm Christian and you know, it's all it's, it's just 302 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,599 little details and stuff like that. 303 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:32,560 So I, I wanted to become, what is it? 304 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,680 It's not baptized. It's like confirmed. 305 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,880 I wanted to be confirmed and everything so I could take, I 306 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,680 could take communion with her and everything like that. 307 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,840 Again, I want to preface this by saying that this is my path and 308 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,400 this was my road to wherever I am now. 309 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,640 And everybody has their own thing. 310 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,520 So I'm not like pushing one religion or another. 311 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,560 That's not for me to decide for anybody that this is just, I 312 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,440 know the right path for me. And I think there's other paths 313 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,800 for people to, to take to find their truth and, and stuff like 314 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,800 that. So again, I don't want to 315 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,880 alienate anybody. I'm very cautious of, of saying 316 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,200 that, but this is my my path and this is the story I'm telling. 317 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,120 So I, we started going to this, my, our priest, he's actually a 318 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:18,560 family friend and he's had some, some really ups and downs in his 319 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,040 life. He wasn't a guy that was like 320 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,600 born right into priesthood. He was like, I, I don't know 321 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,480 what his past was, but he found priesthood in his later 30s. 322 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,400 He had some family stuff. One of his brothers passed away 323 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,240 and, and he had some really hard things happen in his life and it 324 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,560 turned him to kind of become who he is now. 325 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,480 And it was really good because he, he spoke Spanish and stuff 326 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,520 like that. So it was like a beautiful 327 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,640 coincidence, I guess, because he we found him, he was going to 328 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,760 marry us and he also spoke Spanish. 329 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,560 So he did half of our ceremony in in Spanish, which was amazing 330 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,280 because some of my wife's friends and family don't even 331 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,800 understand English. So we went to him and he was 332 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,240 pretty laid back. You know, some of these some of 333 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,120 these counselors are like, are you guys like living together? 334 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,600 We won't marry you. Are you guys, they're, they're 335 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,080 crazy. I know my sister went to a 336 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,720 couple of them and they, they're like, oh, you guys live 337 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,000 together, We can't marry you, like stuff like that. 338 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,920 But he's cool. He's really, really cool. 339 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,000 And he just opened my, my mind and my heart up to this religion 340 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,040 again, because I had this like negative annotation surrounding 341 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:28,600 it. But he gives you these workbooks 342 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,800 to take home and read and like they have these little like 343 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,240 quizzes and stuff like that. And I took the first packet home 344 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:45,640 and I sat in my my living room. If you were sat in my living 345 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,920 room, that's where I lay is like right next to this window that 346 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,760 the shades kind of shut on themselves or whatever. 347 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,000 But it's directly like if you look out the window, you can see 348 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,640 the house that I saw the shadow figure in whatever. 349 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,920 It's not that big of a detail. But anyways, I'm laying on there 350 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,920 and I'm looking. At the at the packet and I turn 351 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:13,880 a page and the exact image that I saw in the doorway is in the 352 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,880 corner of this packet. Pan. 353 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,480 It's AI, wish I had. I probably have it. 354 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,160 It's a shadow with the hands like this on the side. 355 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,880 You just call a pan. Just call a pan. 356 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,080 The exact same thing. Now people are going to say, 357 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,520 well, it's a coincidence. It's this, it's that I'm telling 358 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,000 you, it's the IT was the exact way this shadow was standing. 359 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,840 And when I saw that I go, it's, it's God. 360 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,240 First of all, it wasn't a negative thing. 361 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,520 He was there to say, Hey, I, I, I'm here. 362 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,320 You know, another thought, another thought I had when I saw 363 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,120 that was maybe it's a friend, one of my good friends passed 364 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,320 away. Maybe it's my brother. 365 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,920 My brother passed away. It essentially it was, it was 366 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,200 all of that all together. This is my, this is my theory on 367 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,360 it. And people can agree or 368 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:10,760 disagree, but I saw that I immediately go, I'm on the right 369 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,880 path. Whatever I'm doing right now is, 370 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,320 is right. And it was a very comforting 371 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,280 feeling, but I was like blown away by it. 372 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,600 And I, I jumped up and I went and I showed my wife and I told 373 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,120 her the whole story and 'cause I didn't really tell the story. 374 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,920 I, I had it happen And I was just in my mind, like I said, 375 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,560 the dream thing, I was like, it was something was projected in 376 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,920 there and it was just just whatever. 377 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,680 I mean, again, maybe it was my neighbor, maybe it was me, but 378 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,160 there was no possible way that it, my shadow was being cast 379 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,440 into this guy's door. Well, perfectly and, and like 380 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,000 that, But so that was pretty cool. 381 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,720 And then, you know, I'm sitting there reading this packet and 382 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,960 I'm like, I liked, I like a lot of the way 'cause when I was 383 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:00,080 talking to my, my, my priest Father Chris, and I'm asking him 384 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,160 all these questions, he was, he's like, no, no, it's not like 385 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,760 that. Again, a lot of these, this, 386 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320 this, this negative annotation. And I don't know if it's like 387 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,040 the way that the newer Catholic Church is being presented or 388 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:18,360 whatever, but he really squashed a lot of these stereotypical 389 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,640 things that I, I was kind of turned off by. 390 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,800 And I really fell in love with what he was saying and it 391 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,400 connected with me. Then I have this experience and 392 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,160 then I, I, I, I shit you not, I'm on the last page of the 393 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,640 first packet. And I'm like, you know what? 394 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,520 I really, really connect with this stuff. 395 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,840 I like it a lot. The only thing I don't like is 396 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,920 they don't talk about meditation really. 397 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,400 And I really find that, you know, our family's big 398 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,960 meditation advocates and, and, and, and you do it and, and our 399 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,160 grandfather did it. And, you know, so I'm sitting 400 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,960 there thinking, I'm like, I really like this religion, but 401 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,000 they're missing with the one thing that I really gravitate 402 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,400 towards is the meditation. I literally turn the page and it 403 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,200 says time for guided meditation or something about meditation 404 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,200 literally on the next page. And I was like, holy shit, this 405 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,480 is, that's pretty big of a coincidence to me. 406 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,040 So that, that's, that's the story. 407 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,720 You know what I mean? Again, I, I don't think it's 408 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,040 like some crazy thing that the house was shaking and, you know, 409 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,720 the lights were turning on and off. 410 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,160 I, I saw a baby crawling on the ceiling type type type of shit. 411 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,360 But for me, it was a very, very real thing. 412 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:38,720 And it was it was a sign to me that I was on the right path, 413 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,880 that I was doing the right thing, that I was, I found the 414 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,200 right person in my life and I was kind of going along the 415 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,800 right path. And I think that that's what 416 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,120 coincidences are for a lot of people are always. 417 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,800 Like, well, I mean, what is a, what is a coincidence or 418 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,560 synchronicity? You know, like I've done a lot 419 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,640 of research into it, including my own experiences, and there's 420 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,960 actually a correspondence between Carl Jung and Wolfgang 421 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080 Polly. Wolfgang Polly was a physicist. 422 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,240 He was part of like the Manhattan Project and stuff, and 423 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,920 they were kind of trying to figure out like what it was and 424 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,360 whatever. So even like some of the 425 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:20,840 smartest minds that, you know, we know of or have ever existed, 426 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,360 you know, they're debating these things and thinking about them 427 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:28,920 as well. So it's not like anybody has it 428 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,320 completely figured out. It's, you know. 429 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I said, I feel like 430 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800 everybody in their life has always, they've seen things, you 431 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:46,200 know, a lot of people attribute it to like UC 1111 or repeating 432 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,240 numbers and things like that. But when I, I think it was 433 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,920 around 2020 when all that shit was going down, I started 434 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,240 meditating a lot. I would go in the sun actually. 435 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,600 And I was doing these guided meditations and literally I was 436 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,400 doing this one about like love. And it wasn't about like, I'm 437 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,360 going to, I'm going to find like I'm going to meditate until I 438 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,360 get get a girlfriend or something like that. 439 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:15,600 It was literally based on feeling fulfilled with yourself. 440 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,040 And probably two weeks after I did that, I met my wife and I 441 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,360 met my wife on a, on a, a dating app. 442 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:29,360 And she was literally the first person that I talked to on the 443 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,000 app. And she was the only reason she 444 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480 was on it was because her friend said, Hey, will you do this with 445 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,320 me, 'cause I, I feel I, I don't want to do it like alone. 446 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800 And we can just hang it, you know, we can meet guys and just 447 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,680 let you know, kind of get better at English. 448 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:47,120 And literally she was the first person that I met on this app. 449 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,640 So I don't know. But ever since that, that day, 450 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,000 that time, that was right when we were kind of really getting 451 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,200 going with the, with the, I don't want to say the 452 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,560 supernatural, but you know, the esoteric, the, the meditating, 453 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,120 the things like that. You were into it before I was. 454 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,320 I mean, look, so yeah, when we started Mind Escape, I was kind 455 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,040 of going through like a spiritual awakening of my own, 456 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,720 given my mom, you know, was just diagnosed with cancer, like an 457 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,160 aggressive form. She's OK now. 458 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,600 She's still good. She's in remission. 459 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,480 Everything's good. But it just starts to make you 460 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:33,440 question things and then you have some sort of, you know, I 461 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,440 don't even know, like you start to like think about life and 462 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,680 death and metaphysical things and metaphysics and kind of have 463 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,880 like an existential crisis to a certain extent. 464 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,640 And I started looking into them like, well, what do what do we 465 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,640 know that's weird? Or what you know, like, I guess 466 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:58,880 what it comes down to is death. Like what is death is is that is 467 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,280 that the end is is when the lights go off? 468 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,440 Is that it kind of a thing? You know, I want, and through 469 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,320 the process of doing minus get the last eight years, I've kind 470 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,960 of developed this hypothesis that like whether people are, 471 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,240 you know, we've interviewed on UFOs or ancient mysteries and 472 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,400 megaliths or how did they do this or how did they know this 473 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,720 or whatever it was. It kind of all comes back to 474 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,640 people wanting to know what happens when we die, whether 475 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,480 they want to admit it or not. I think what happens when we die 476 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,040 is kind of the the most fundamental question that people 477 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,400 avoid kind of at all costs, that they'll even go as far as to 478 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,400 develop mythology around other aspects of life to kind of work 479 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,320 their way towards that if it makes sense. 480 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:52,880 Yeah, you know, I, I lost a, a dog a couple weeks ago and I, 481 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,400 it, it brought it all back to my mind. 482 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,000 It's a different type of, of pain to lose a pet. 483 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,880 Cause I've, I've lost a brother, I've lost a best friend. 484 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,960 And I was super close with my, my best friend, like I saw him 485 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,480 every single day, but he lived, He, he had a life on his own. 486 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,000 So he would go off and do his own thing and he would when 487 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,640 he's, when he's gone doing his own thing. 488 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Yeah, you might think about it from time to time, but they have 489 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,960 their own life. When you lose an animal, it's 490 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,440 it's fucked up because it's like every that that animal is there 491 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,200 every single second of when you're at your house, it's 492 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,560 there. And it loves you 493 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,280 unconditionally, you know, like, but the person I'm getting. 494 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,120 Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. No, sorry. 495 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,720 Go ahead. I don't mean to come the the 496 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,920 point I'm not even talking about like the pain and, and, you 497 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,720 know, and the and the and the love and that kind of thing. 498 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,600 I the, the, what I'm getting more at is thinking. 499 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,920 I, I keep thinking I'm going to the, the, the dog's going to 500 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,040 come running or, or I look at the like the area where the, 501 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,720 the, the dog dishes. I'm like, I got to get her food. 502 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080 She's gone. It's, it's the brain can't wrap 503 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,600 its head around. I was talking about this with my 504 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,400 therapist. He's like, the brain doesn't 505 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,480 understand death. That's why when you, you cope 506 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560 with it, it's so weird and hard because you can't really 507 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,680 understand it. There's something metaphysical 508 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,480 about just that, the fact that we can't even grasp. 509 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,480 Like they say you can't even think about your own death for 510 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,200 longer than like a few minutes or something. 511 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,880 Like your brain will just shift away from it. 512 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,640 So I don't know, Does that mean that I, I, I equate it to like 513 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,400 the Ant conundrum or an Ant doesn't you, you walk on an Ant 514 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,840 hill, It does. It doesn't understand what's 515 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,120 going on. So just because we don't 516 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,360 understand, it doesn't mean that it's not happening or there's 517 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,680 something else not going on. But the feeling of she's never 518 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,400 there like I, I don't know, for some reason it's, it was the 519 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,280 hardest with this dog than it was with the actual humans. 520 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,000 I don't know why. Maybe it's because she's around 521 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,800 24/7, but it was just like she's never going to be there again 522 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,440 kind of thing. I don't know. 523 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 And then I then I started feeling bad that I felt, I don't 524 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,160 want to say I felt more pain for losing the dog than my friend or 525 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320 my brother, but I was like, what's going on here? 526 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,320 You know, it's just a different, like you said, there's a 527 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,200 different connection. It's yeah, it's different. 528 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000 Like you said, you're, you know, it's there all the time. 529 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000 It loves you unconditionally, no matter what kind of date you had 530 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,160 or whatever. And somebody that's maybe, you 531 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,560 know, related to you or you know, your friend or whatever, 532 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,840 you know, they've, they've got their own life and their own 533 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,000 mind and their own consciousness and stuff like that. 534 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,400 So it not that the dog does it, obviously, but it's just, it's a 535 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,520 little bit different in that sense. 536 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,880 And I don't know, like I said, I think all it's weird that we 537 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,920 don't talk about it as like human beings rarely talk about 538 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,760 death until somebody dies. And then there's this huge like 539 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,440 emotional thing and, you know, is that the way it's designed to 540 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000 be? Are those roots so ancient, so 541 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,640 primordial that, you know, that's just how it is kind of a 542 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,040 thing? Or are we are we doing ourselves 543 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,160 a disservice by like stigmatizing it? 544 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,920 And like, you know, I. Don't used to talk about it we 545 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,320 this is the other thing that I've been my mind has been 546 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,560 opened and This is why I you know not to plug our our 547 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800 platform Maria's Spanish lounge, but. 548 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,520 Dude, you better not plug this thing three more times. 549 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,480 No, I'm joking. No, Ever. 550 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,080 You gentlemen. You should plug it as many. 551 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440 This is the last one point O so you should plug that. 552 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,920 There's a link in the bio for our for our class. 553 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,880 Again, if you're interested in learning Spanish or know anybody 554 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,960 that is, I would love to be able to bring you guys into the 555 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Spanish lounge and you're going to have a good time learning 556 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,680 with my wife and her friend. It's just it's a different type. 557 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360 It's not Duolingo. It's, it's, it's, it's a whole 558 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,720 immersive, fun atmosphere where you're actually going to retain 559 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,160 what you're, what you're listening to. 560 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,080 But besides that, marrying a woman from a different culture, 561 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,360 we are, look, I love living in the United States. 562 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,240 We, we have blessings beyond belief, but our mind and our 563 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,960 like society with like the medicine and all that shit. 564 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000 It's, it's, it's a fucking nightmare, man. 565 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,640 And the food and the this and the that, like you don't even 566 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,440 realize it. That's why I highly, highly 567 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,960 suggest I I've never left the United States until I met my 568 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,080 wife. I went to Canada. 569 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,520 But that's that's not like a different culture going to a 570 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,840 different culture. And yes. 571 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,840 Well, it depends on where you go in Canada. 572 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,480 There's obviously. Yeah, that's true. 573 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,240 Absolutely, absolutely. But to to go to a different 574 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,680 culture, to be a part of their language, their food, their 575 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,200 culture. And like, like I was saying, 576 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,200 yes, it is third world and there is crime and things like that. 577 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,840 But one thing my wife is very, she's like, it's just people are 578 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320 cold here. Now listen, I have a great 579 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,120 community around me. My cousins, my like Mike, my 580 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,040 other cousins, the people that are in my life are amazing. 581 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,800 They're not cold. That's not what I'm talking 582 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080 about. But in general, the people in 583 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,440 the United States, at least to her. 584 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,160 Like if you were to walk, go to New York City and walk down the 585 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,760 street there, you people are going to be most likely cold or 586 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,680 keep walking or not even look at, you know, like that. 587 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,280 That's what you're talking about, right? 588 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,040 Totally, totally. And, and, and the same thing was 589 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,600 kind of happening with the vet system. 590 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,520 Like her vet from Ecuador, like she would come to her house. 591 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,320 She didn't care about money. We called our vet and they're 592 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,000 like, oh, we're closing at 5. She's like, I'm coming right 593 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,080 now. It's 4:45. 594 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800 I'll be there in 20 minutes. They're like, no, we will, we 595 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,440 close at 5:00. They you can't wait 5 minutes. 596 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,600 This is bullshit. Again, I'm, I, I, I just shoot 597 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,360 weddings. And if I'm at a wedding and 598 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,840 they're like, oh, we got, you know you, I know your, your, 599 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,920 your, your, your contract says you got to be done at 9:30 and 600 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560 it's 930. But we got this one special 601 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,080 dance. I'm going to stay and shoot the 602 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,480 dance. I'm there to make a piece of art 603 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,240 that's going to last the the test of time. 604 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,800 And I care about my job. I care about my my clients. 605 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,120 I don't know what the fuck is going on in today's. 606 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,639 World maybe they should open up some sort of like a tip system 607 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,520 for vets or something so like there's. 608 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Like, well, that, that that that's. 609 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,440 I agree with I, I know it with what you're saying like they 610 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,280 should just want to do it or whatever, but that's not how 611 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,040 things work unfortunately. No. 612 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,560 So then I so then I started investigating and all this stuff 613 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,520 happened like since the incident in 2020, they lost all these 614 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,719 people. And then there's like a massive, 615 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,159 I didn't even realize it because again, I've never had an animal 616 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:32,920 before. So all this stuff hit me like a 617 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,320 ton of bricks. First I was worried about her 618 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,760 coming 'cause I was like, I don't do, I want a dog, I don't 619 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,239 want to deal with this thing every day. 620 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,040 Then I had her for a year. I fell in love with her and then 621 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,120 I was, I was, I was blown away by the pain that was that came 622 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,840 from losing her. So I'm like all over the place 623 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,320 like I was, I was thinking one thing. 624 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,320 Now I feeling this other thing, but I never had a pet and I 625 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,199 never had a vet, so I didn't know. 626 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:01,360 And wow, these, the vets that we dealt with were like mechanics 627 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,760 working on a car. It's like your Johnson Rod's 628 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,040 broken. It's this amount like we took 629 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,480 the, we took this poor girl to like 4 vets. 630 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,800 No one could figure it out. No, they ran the same tests, 631 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,320 $600.00, six. It's like Jesus, like at least 632 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,440 tell me something. And Paula knew what was wrong 633 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,200 with her the whole time. But they're like, Oh, well, we 634 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,480 don't see anything. But it's like, I don't know, 635 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,320 man, I I'm just. I wanna get what was wrong with 636 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,360 her. So, well, she was an older dog 637 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,520 that never was spayed and she had her uterus still and she was 638 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,120 just her, her uterus was like it had an infection and stuff. 639 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,960 We had to have the surgery and she was a super small dog and 640 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,360 she just couldn't. Paula was always worried about 641 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,520 putting her in anesthesia, you know, under anesthesia, because 642 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,000 they really, really warn you with small dogs that if you put 643 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,120 them under anesthesia, they there's a possibility that they 644 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,280 might not wake up. There's that's a possibility 645 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,200 with human beings too. Yeah. 646 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,960 I mean, it's less obviously, but like I know people that have 647 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,680 like completely lost their memory like short term. 648 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,360 Well, I just saw a whole thing about what anesthesia actually 649 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,440 does that people you. I'm not going to go into it now, 650 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,920 but you should investigate what it does because it's not really. 651 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,840 It's a weird thing that's they don't even know what's happening 652 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080 in your mind when you're under. It, there's a lot of scientists 653 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,800 and philosophers that point to going under anesthesia as 654 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,280 beaten, kind of losing that state of consciousness and 655 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,840 that's how they think they're studying it. 656 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,920 But as somebody that's pretty much almost died, my heart 657 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,400 didn't stop, but I was unconscious, lost like a ton of 658 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,800 blood couple times the last few years. 659 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,000 You can. They're not the same because 660 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,120 they put to get checked up and I eventually found out I had 661 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Crohn's to to for them to figure out what was going on. 662 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,920 I had to get put under twice. So I almost died twice and then 663 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,600 I was put under twice. They're completely different 664 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,240 feelings, so. Wow, Yeah, I think I I had 665 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:05,360 anaesthesia, but I was a kid and I wasn't like paying super close 666 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,520 attention to it. Yeah. 667 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,560 Usually it's a, it's a, it's a combination like propofol and 668 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,480 like ketamine. I mean, it depends on what. 669 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,360 Oh is it really? It's ketamine and stuff. 670 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,880 Some. It depends on what it is. 671 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,120 Yeah, they give people certain, at least for when they did my 672 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,600 endoscopies and my colonoscopy and stuff. 673 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:27,240 Yeah, but I don't even know how we lifted off from there. 674 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,080 But yeah, like, well, I was saying like just to it's good to 675 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680 get a taste of different cultures and stuff like that. 676 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,880 Cause again, you know, like I said, I'm not Pooh poohing the 677 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,160 United States. I love living here and we have 678 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960 opportunities that people don't have and stuff like that. 679 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,520 But there is a, there is a, it's a big business and the big 680 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,400 business filters into every aspect of the life, whether it's 681 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,520 food or medicine or whatever it may be. 682 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,760 You just got to be aware of it. Again, I, I don't even have like 683 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,720 a very good doctor 'cause my health insurance isn't the best. 684 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:59,360 So like I found a guy and then he left and it's like if I ever 685 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,200 do get a dog again or. Anything by left I mean his 686 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,200 shadow went like this and flew off and. 687 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,840 He healed me bro. He healed me, Rufi yo, Rufi yo. 688 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,640 Where's Well let's let's not go down that path bro cause 'cause 689 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,320 Pan died. Hook. 690 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,200 The only way he he could. That's a classic movie. 691 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080 I haven't seen that. I mean, if you watched it now, 692 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,480 maybe it's a piece of shit. I don't know. 693 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,600 I've. No, it's cool. 694 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,200 Man, when we were younger, Hook was like it, you know? 695 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,160 Well, me and my bud in on the Comedy Channel, we did a whole 696 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,600 bit about when Tinkerbell shrank down. 697 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,800 I mean, I don't know if we want to get into jokes here, but I 698 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,000 was like, finally a woman that I could fill. 699 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,440 Yeah, because you she's your size. 700 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,360 Exactly, exactly. Because. 701 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,280 That's what I was asking. I go, did Tinkerbell shrink or 702 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,120 did Tinkerbell grow or did Peter shrink? 703 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,240 I think she shrunk Peter right when he goes in the tree. 704 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,000 I don't know, I again, I haven't seen, you know. 705 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,840 The scene I'm talking about. When I think I do, no, I think, 706 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,760 I think you just fly. I don't know. 707 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,600 That's a good question. I have no idea. 708 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,320 Anyways, we went out, we went on a roof on this thing. 709 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:14,320 But yeah, man, again, like, you know, my story is, is my own. 710 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,240 I know it's probably like I said, it's not like the most a a 711 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,960 baby's head didn't spin around and vomit on me. 712 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,560 It was more of a just an experience that I, I may, I 713 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,320 might have given it more meaning to, but you know, these are the 714 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,320 things that you find in your life that actually can if you're 715 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,360 tuned in. That's the other thing I have 716 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,720 not partaken in cannabis or drinking. 717 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,720 And listen, I'm I'm going to preface it again, this is my 718 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,360 path. If you like to smoke or you like 719 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,840 to drink or you like to do this, that's up to you. 720 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,640 But for me, my truth, I haven't been doing any of that stuff. 721 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,040 I, I have some coffee and stuff like that, but I have these 722 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,880 feelings. I don't even know how to explain 723 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,920 it. Like I'll be watching. 724 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,960 YouTube Yeah, I mean, caffeine is 100% a drug. 725 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,120 Oh, absolutely. It's my drug. 726 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,680 I, I love caffeine and that's, you know, we'll see if I can cut 727 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,960 that out at some point in my life. 728 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,360 But I mean actually you're supposed to counter balance 729 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,240 caffeine with theanine but. I have that. 730 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,600 To get rid of it the jitters. Yeah, I don't really get the 731 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,000 jitters, but what I was saying is I when I ride like I went on 732 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,680 a bike ride this today and I rode past some houses from our 733 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:36,280 childhood, one of my good friends and I'm like transported 734 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,720 back into it's a memory, but it's like a memory with feeling. 735 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680 It's almost like a full on time warp. 736 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,680 I don't know how to explain it, but I know I've had these 737 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,200 throughout my life. But the fact that now I'm more 738 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,560 sober and tuned in, they just did they resonate more. 739 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,040 I feel like if I really practiced deeper meditation, I 740 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,480 would even be able to enhance it more and more. 741 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,560 But that's that's the next step. But yeah, man, I don't know. 742 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,320 I don't even really. You don't have to say, I mean, 743 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,320 look, dude, you've there's episodes where you talk about 744 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:19,880 all the your psychoactive uses in the past and herbs and Daleks 745 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,080 and all the great wonderful things. 746 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,600 And I'm glad I did it. I'm glad I had those. 747 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,400 Experiences. It's it's formed. 748 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,520 It's formed to who formed you into who you are. 749 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,720 And at least, if nothing else, you've learned from those 750 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,720 experiences and you have those in your hip pocket that you can 751 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:42,680 draw from when need be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I it was, it's 752 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,120 been a whirlwind. And I don't want to say I was 753 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,600 like nervous to get married. I think everybody has a little 754 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,240 bit of cold feet in a sense, because it's just a big ass 755 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,960 change. It's not even like, oh man, is 756 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,560 this the right person for me or not? 757 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,760 It's just a gigantic change. And when I was, I had such a 758 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,120 crazy month, literally my wife's like whole family came and 759 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,120 stayed with me for a month. So I was just like, my anxiety 760 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,960 was first of all, all I was worried about was all I could 761 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,560 think about is am I going to get sick and then be sick at my 762 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,800 wedding? And then I just flushed all 763 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840 this, I'm a cheap bastard, all right. 764 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,160 So anything where money gets wasted, That was all I was 765 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120 thinking about was I don't want to get sick because then I just 766 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,840 wasted all this money at my party. 767 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,040 So like my mind was fully in that mode and I was just like, 768 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,760 just stay healthy till the wedding. 769 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,720 Just make sure everybody has a good time at your house, set 770 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:41,000 everybody up, do this, do that. And then at my rehearsal dinner, 771 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:45,320 it hit me like a ton of bricks and I was like, this is real. 772 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,080 You're getting married tomorrow. Everyone's going to be staring 773 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,080 at you. This had nothing to do with it 774 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,440 starts. Throwing up like world police 775 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:57,760 every day. You know they used Starbucks for 776 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,400 that vomit scene. Oh, I'm sure. 777 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,280 But I don't know. How did you feel? 778 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,920 Like, did you have that kind of feeling? 779 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,200 Yeah. Dude, I mean, if you're about to 780 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,280 get married and you're not nervous, there's something wrong 781 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,200 with you. I mean, I wasn't nervous because 782 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,800 I love my wife more than anything. 783 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,760 I knew I wanted to marry her, but and we'd been together for a 784 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,200 long time. We lived together, you know, 785 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,600 like there was no question. That's pretty much marriage when 786 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,680 you live with. Someone but yeah, I mean to go 787 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,760 through like the ceremony and the process and you go here then 788 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,320 and it's just so it's all new, you know, it's like anything 789 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,800 else. You go to an event and you're 790 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,720 the you're the star of the show and you know it's you've only 791 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,160 rehearsed this thing like once and you're supposed to just go 792 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,560 through all these, you know, ceremonial motions, if you will. 793 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,360 And yeah, I mean, so he's from that standpoint for sure. 794 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,120 And I don't know, like I said, I don't know how many people that 795 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,400 aren't. I mean, I guess it just depends 796 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,400 on the event. Maybe if it's like a tiny 797 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,000 wedding or something like that, maybe you wouldn't or a place 798 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,560 you're completely comfortable with. 799 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,800 But if you're doing it at like a venue or a hall or somewhere 800 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,640 that's foreign and the whole thing, you know, it's it, it's 801 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,160 overwhelming. And, you know, for me, you know, 802 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,120 I definitely cried, you know, when my wife was coming, you 803 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,640 know, like you just, you know, you realize that that in that 804 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,600 moment, kind of what's going on. And yeah. 805 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,400 Mine was the night before. I was just like, I don't know, I 806 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,240 had a real anxiety hit me, 'cause I was like, it's all 807 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,840 real. We're doing the the rehearsal 808 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,760 and all this stuff is just like, 'cause I didn't think about it. 809 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,960 I was like kind of just focused on getting there and then all of 810 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,840 a sudden it hit me like a wave. But the point I was making was 811 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,920 it was the best decision of my life, having a love for someone. 812 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,800 I never realized that when you get married, what happens You 813 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,480 you're with the same person, but it's like supercharging the 814 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,040 bond, the feel. I don't know how to even explain 815 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,120 it because I never, I I was like, oh, yeah, you just get 816 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,840 married. It's just because we, I was 817 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,040 talking to my wife before. I'm like, look, I'm committed to 818 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,760 you With the day we started dating. 819 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,040 I treat it like a marriage. I don't fool around. 820 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,680 You're the only person in my life my. 821 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,120 God, you're a completely different person. 822 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,000 If this was 10 years ago, this that, you'd already be divorced. 823 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,680 Well, you got to be in the right state of. 824 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,360 Mind, I know I'm joking around, but I'm not. 825 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640 Yeah, yeah, well, no, I wasn't ready. 826 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,000 I I'm, I'm a real picky bastard too. 827 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,320 Like I've, I'm very, very picky about the people and the women 828 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,480 that I've I've been that I've had in my life. 829 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:35,280 And sometimes it was, well, every other one was a bad, was a 830 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,520 bad circumstance in one way or another. 831 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,920 But we don't have to go down there. 832 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,320 That's that's just you. You live and you learn and you, 833 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,720 you, you date people and you find out what you want. 834 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:49,280 That's the only that's the best way to do it, as you can see. 835 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,400 Yeah, you might have. Got it. 836 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,000 What you don't? Want, but we don't have to 837 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,720 discuss that here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 838 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,360 You got a little claw to the face. 839 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,080 I don't want that anymore. I don't want. 840 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,040 I might have gotten an iPhone smashed over your head, but 841 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,200 let's not talk about that should. 842 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,760 Have gotten. Should have got the stitches. 843 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,200 Should have got the stitches. No, but I was talking to the our 844 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,400 family, but the gardeners and I was just like, I don't know the 845 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,680 love and the feeling that I have the bond like there's, it's, 846 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,240 there's nothing better for me than being married. 847 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,320 There's just something about it. I don't you can probably attest 848 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,960 to it too. Like I said, it's just another 849 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,800 level of love. I, I again, I, I don't really 850 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,200 know how to put it into words. It's just like the and then 851 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,440 going through this with our little, you know, baby, our 852 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,720 little puppy, not that it's, it's, it's a horrible thing, but 853 00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:42,680 it's like it just, it's a bonding experience and this is 854 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,480 what builds the relationship to the next level. 855 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,400 Unfortunately, we're getting older and that's the that's 856 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,400 like, it's like. Well, yeah, I mean, we have 857 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,920 pets, but now we, I mean, you and I know people that people 858 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,080 that are dying that we grew up with that we know like, I mean, 859 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,920 it happens more frequently the older you get, obviously. 860 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,760 I mean, and given the mental health of a lot of people out 861 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,720 there, you know, with there's been kind of like a epidemic of 862 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:17,160 all of our, you know, close people in the Detroit area of 863 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,080 kind of people not doing well, you know? 864 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,760 Yeah, yeah, that's I wish I had. I guess I shouldn't say I wish I 865 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,320 had because I do have resources. Really it's the time. 866 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,680 But once I get set up a little bit better, I am going to give 867 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,600 back to the community because I really I, I that's another 868 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,080 calling the same thing took down two people in my life. 869 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,720 I need to, I need to figure out a way to give back or bring 870 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,520 shine light on the whole problem. 871 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400 And it's all about figuring out what you how you can use your 872 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,560 tools. My gifts are filmmaking and 873 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,440 photography and stuff like that. Your gifts are learning 874 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,080 knowledge and then kind of getting people to think in a new 875 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,280 way and stuff like that. So it's like, how do you use 876 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,960 your gifts to better the human race? 877 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,400 And I think if people just focused on that, we would, we 878 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,960 would be better off because we all have some kind of gift. 879 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,240 And people just unfortunately, we're selfish about it 'cause 880 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,160 we, we, we, we do have to take care of ourselves. 881 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,880 We do have to make money. We got to take care of our 882 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,000 families. And in this day and age, given 883 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,480 technology, given where AI is going and follow your passion, 884 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,320 you are far more likely. I mean, if it's something 885 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,200 healthy, you are far more likely to succeed at something you were 886 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,320 passionate about. Then you're not that, you know, 887 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:41,400 there's some weird things or you know, things extracurricular 888 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,360 things that can be done outside of a job or something like that, 889 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,280 that you just, you know, there's no market to make money doing 890 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,560 that. I understand that there's 891 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,680 certain hobbies and things like that, but for the most part, you 892 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:59,640 know, you can get creative and you can find ways to, you know, 893 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,200 capitalize on your God-given gifts, if that makes sense. 894 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,000 Or you're giving gifts, or you're abiogenesis given gifts. 895 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,800 You know, however you want to think about that. 896 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,360 Yeah, well, it's, we have, we do have a time where you can turn 897 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,240 any kind of knowledge into monetary if that's what you're 898 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,400 what you're needing. And if I have children, that's 899 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,040 going to be my #1 focus is just to try and figure out what they 900 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,160 can do to contribute to the world. 901 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,480 But they're also happy about doing it. 902 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,400 That's the other thing that I really, it was the day that we 903 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,960 read the, the electric kool-aid acid tests in, in 11th grade or 904 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,000 whatever. And I've, I, I, I visualized 905 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,960 the, the rat race like, oh, I'm going to get a job so I can buy 906 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,360 a nice car so I can take that car to work so I can pay for the 907 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,680 car. It's like this whole circle 908 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,640 thing. And I don't want to do that. 909 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,760 So I've been a massive advocate of trying to find your job makes 910 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,680 up what like 80% of your life. So I don't want to have a job 911 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,880 that I fear or hate like I fear Monday that doesn't. 912 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,480 Make any look, it's a it's a catch 22 too, 'cause there's 913 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,680 there, you know, you do need money to live. 914 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,800 Money does make things easier. Money does, you know, it doesn't 915 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,400 cure or fix anything. I mean, how many super wealthy 916 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,040 people do we know that either have ended themselves or are 917 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,520 super unhappy? You know, like, it doesn't make 918 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,600 you, you know, but if it does help you, you know, and it, it 919 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,960 is a tool and it is how things work, unfortunately. 920 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:41,400 But yeah, like I said, if you can find a way to monetize your 921 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,800 passion, you know, that's a good way to go, especially given the 922 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,320 future of where technology's going and stuff like that. 923 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,080 Maybe everybody will be their own content creator or show off 924 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,000 their skill or their love or their passion, or maybe not. 925 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,360 You know, maybe you don't need to, if your passion's hunting, 926 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,440 you know, or whatever, or if it's, you know, going out and 927 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,040 hiking, you know, you don't, you know, you make those cool hiking 928 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,080 videos, but you don't even need to do that if you become 929 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,400 fulfilled just from doing that and can like live off the land 930 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,120 or live sustainably in a cool, cool zone on your own or 931 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,480 whatever, you know, whatever it is, you know, you just got to 932 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,320 find ways and be creative about it. 933 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,600 But yeah, I think that given the state of technology and AI and 934 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,040 everything like that, I think it's it's people are better off 935 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,560 finding what makes them happy and what they're passionate 936 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,040 about than just trying to to get through the day or whatever. 937 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,080 I think you hit it right on the head with if you can find 938 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,440 everybody has their back, we're going back to Mr. Vibrations, 939 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,720 but everybody resonates higher when they're doing some kind of 940 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,720 activity. Maybe it's playing the guitar, 941 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,320 maybe it's hiking or something like that. 942 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,320 So it's like if you can get yourself into that place more 943 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,800 often, you're just going to resonate higher because you're 944 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,120 going to be in your element at a higher, you know, clip. 945 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,840 So your frequency will be higher because you're in that state of 946 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,480 mind now. Can you? 947 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,640 I I feel more like I'm at church when I'm in the woods and I 948 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,160 don't have to be like deep in the woods. 949 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,400 I can be hiking wherever, but I feel more connected to my 950 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,520 creator or the. Universal but. 951 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,040 Yeah, no, man, Yeah, I I just watched that with my wife and I 952 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,560 love it, but. True Detective season 1 classic. 953 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,160 It's unbelievable, but like I said, I that that's where I feel 954 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,920 connected. So I try and go hiking all the 955 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,480 time. And that was actually part of my 956 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,240 big transformation back in 2020. I, there's nothing else to do. 957 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:47,640 So I grabbed my camera and I went into the woods and I 958 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,200 literally, I put my phone down. I had a little like iPod thing. 959 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,080 I put some tunes on. I love myself some music, the 960 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,080 right music at the well, I'm hiking. 961 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,880 I got the right tune on. It's literally like I'm flying. 962 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:06,880 It's I'm like I, it is a drug. Music is a drug and I just kept 963 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,960 doing it over and over and over. I and, and, and I was in my 964 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,680 element over and over and over. And then I just because that 965 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,360 becomes my norm. That becomes my threshold. 966 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,720 Like if if you're rating yourself from A1 to 1010 being 967 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:22,680 you're just depressed and don't want to get out of bed and 10 is 968 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,760 your pure love, where do you sit in that on a day-to-day basis? 969 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,400 You know you're going to have loss in your life. 970 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,920 You're going to sink down. How long do you stay down there? 971 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,600 Do you rise up? Where are you on a normal 972 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,480 day-to-day basis? I this, this is my dream and I 973 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,280 have all these different channels and stuff like that. 974 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,520 But I would really, really love to make a channel that's based 975 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,080 on high vibe living and, and I have all these tips and tricks 976 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920 and stuff like that. And again, maybe they work for 977 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,200 you, maybe they don't. Your baby Joel Osteen in the 978 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,520 making, Yeah. No, no, no, no. 979 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,560 No, no, I'm joking. I'm joking. 980 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,480 I'll be flying around on private jets and shit, you know what I'm 981 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,640 saying? That's why I was saying you got 982 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,760 to check out Righteous. Jokes. 983 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,280 Yeah, I know. It's pretty funny. 984 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,720 But it's I think that that's what I want and that's what I 985 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,600 my, my passion in life is to treat people, is to show people 986 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,400 how to get high without the drugs did. 987 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,000 Salvador Dali really say that? He just said I don't take drugs, 988 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000 I am the drugs or something like that. 989 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,560 Maybe, maybe 'cause he was the one that was doing the sleeping 990 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,360 stuff right where he'd wake himself up. 991 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,800 Yeah, and I mean, if you look at all of his art, it looks very 992 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,600 psychedelic, like drippy LSD and tryptamine style stuff. 993 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,520 Yeah, he's incredible. That was another thing I just 994 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,840 did the recently as I went to the DIA, the Detroit Institute 995 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,480 of Arts and I love that stuff. I I went once when I was in 996 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,960 college, but when my my wife's family was in town in December, 997 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,040 I had to take her all. It was cool. 998 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,600 It was like a reminiscent of Detroit and what it has and it 999 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,960 dude, I love Detroit. There's so many cool things 1000 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,160 going on down there, but I never do them We. 1001 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,760 Just took my son to a concert on that. 1002 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,440 That Masonic temple's unbelievable. 1003 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,280 Though Yeah dude, that I was talking. 1004 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,080 With PD Newman about that, he said he knows like the owner and 1005 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,240 stuff and there's a bar next door called the Acacia Bar. 1006 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,000 That's sweet. I shot a wedding at the temple 1007 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,360 and they had access to the whole temple, Masonic temple. 1008 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,640 We went into these rooms. It was incredible for film. 1009 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,760 But like the bride, the, the photographer I was with was 1010 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,080 like, here you sit on this, there's like an altar in the 1011 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,240 middle of this massive room. She's like, come sit on this 1012 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:34,720 altar thing. This girl's like, I don't know 1013 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:38,080 if we should be doing this, but it was, it was intense, bro. 1014 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,880 It was, it was, it was a trip, but there's so many random like 1015 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,680 little rooms and it's cool. Again, there's a lot of 1016 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,440 speculation on what was going on in there. 1017 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,280 I know you're more towards the, the, the up and the up. 1018 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,680 You know, you think it, you don't know, you don't dive too 1019 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,320 much into the, the craziness that surrounds some of that 1020 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,800 stuff, but it's, it's interesting to be in there. 1021 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,320 I'll tell you that. I've just look over the years, I 1022 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,520 just keep beating this. But like epistemology, theory of 1023 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,560 knowledge, where does this information come from? 1024 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,720 If it comes from another person, then where did they get that 1025 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,720 information? If it came from a book, then who 1026 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,440 wrote that? You know, like you just follow 1027 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,520 that causal line all the way back and you start to, to peel 1028 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,080 back some of the layers of that onion and get at the truth of 1029 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,480 what's going on. And I, I, I, for a time, I did 1030 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,360 feel very cynical. I'm like, what's wrong with me? 1031 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,880 Why am I so like pessimistic and skeptical? 1032 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,680 And, but I've learned to just embrace it. 1033 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:37,040 And that's how you find true mystery, in my opinion, is 1034 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,080 you're willing to entertain things that you don't even like. 1035 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,880 You know what I'm saying? Like the idea that nothing 1036 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,280 happens when you die. Nobody wants to hear that, 1037 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,000 right? I mean, unless your life's just 1038 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,040 complete hell, I guess, or something like that. 1039 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,960 But for the most part, we all want to believe there's a next 1040 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,320 level or dimension or heaven or whatever it is. 1041 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,800 So to entertain the idea that there might not be anything 1042 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,320 else, a lot of people don't like that. 1043 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:10,800 But you have to like almost like a Descartes doubting session. 1044 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,400 You kind of have to put yourself through that to kind of arrive 1045 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,360 at what you really believe about things. 1046 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,720 And that being said, we have a new segment, first of its kind. 1047 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,680 Welcome to Mike's mind melters. Are you ready, Maurice, to get 1048 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,840 to get melted? All right. 1049 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,640 First question, going forward, if I do interview people, even 1050 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,400 though they will be edited, this will be a new segment called 1051 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,240 Mind Mike's Mind Melters. There are four questions. 1052 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,960 I will ask the same 4 questions to everybody unless I've had 1053 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,000 somebody on before and then we'll see from there. 1054 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:09,520 But first question, what is something you believe in that 1055 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:14,360 you know is probably wrong or illogical but are just not being 1056 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:23,080 honest with yourself? Oh man, that is a doozy. 1057 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,480 This is a This is a tough segment because these things. 1058 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,920 So what is? Can you repeat the question? 1059 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,000 I can repeat the question, what is something you believe in that 1060 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,800 you know is probably wrong or illogical, but you are just not 1061 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:44,880 being honest with yourself? Jesus, not Jesus, but. 1062 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,720 Would you like to phone a friend Jesus? 1063 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,440 I, I, I would, I mean this, I that my, my head is melted, my 1064 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,480 mind has been melted. What is something that I know 1065 00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:01,640 that is true, but I don't believe it? 1066 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,800 What's something that you go along with that you believe, but 1067 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,240 you know deep down it may be wrong or illogical or that 1068 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,120 you're just believing to believe? 1069 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:23,280 Well, here we go. I, I'm a big moon man, so I 1070 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,240 don't know a lot of the stuff that they say about the moon. 1071 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,840 I don't, I don't like that. I, I, I, I go along with that 1072 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,840 stuff. But the more you research it, 1073 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,560 the more you get into it. That's one of the bigger 1074 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,280 mysteries that I really like because the stuff about like all 1075 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,800 the craters are all the same depth and stuff like that. 1076 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,360 Again, I'm not like some scientist. 1077 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,640 I don't know if, if, if, if that's a full fact. 1078 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:46,680 I. Don't think people think you're 1079 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,640 scientists. Go on. 1080 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,200 All right, yeah. So the, the, the first thing 1081 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,000 that comes to my mind is the moon. 1082 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,080 The moon. I I I don't want to say that we 1083 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,760 didn't land on the moon, but a lot of that footage is pretty, 1084 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,400 pretty hokey. What I think may have happened 1085 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,400 is they actually landed but lost. 1086 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,040 The footage and then they had to kind of repurpose it. 1087 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,080 That would be something that would kind of make sense to me. 1088 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,680 But I don't really understand why we don't go in there. 1089 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,160 Why weren't, why were, why are we going back there? 1090 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,800 Why aren't we, you know, doing research? 1091 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,800 Do we know what what's going on up there? 1092 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,320 Because it doesn't seem like it, really. 1093 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,560 Acts yeah, they're mining stuff. There's polar ice caps and 1094 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,880 minerals and stuff that they're, you know, China's landed on the 1095 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,720 dark side of the moon not that long ago. 1096 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:33,360 They've had. Yeah. 1097 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,760 How well they've they've been eating aspect. 1098 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:42,960 In terms, in terms of in terms of like stuff that's going on, 1099 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,520 yeah, I mean, we definitely send Rovers and like can seize 1100 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,960 things. It would be interesting to see 1101 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,320 if they're ever going to try and send people back there because I 1102 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,960 think that that would, given our technology now from where we 1103 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:05,200 were, we should be able to come up with a lot more interesting 1104 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,040 data, photographs. They're very interested in 1105 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,440 going. Back I mean, I I I'm all for 1106 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,720 sudden Katy Perry out there. She can she can sing and dance 1107 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,800 on the moon. That's that's the next video. 1108 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,280 But the moon is is one thing that I kind of go along with 1109 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,840 sometimes. You don't want to bring that up 1110 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,280 at a party. People might look at you a 1111 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,880 little cross eyed, but when you really break it down, we don't 1112 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,080 know a damn thing. So yeah, we went from 7 live 1113 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,480 viewers to six. It's not. 1114 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,280 That Oh my God, this is the moon guy dude. 1115 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,960 They've definitely, they've definitely slapped one of those 1116 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,920 things on there too, one of those article links. 1117 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:56,040 But OK, so I'll accept that. That's, that's not a bad one. 1118 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,560 It's a hard question I wouldn't have got knowing you, I wouldn't 1119 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,760 have guessed that as the thing, but I accept it. 1120 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:08,480 All right #2 Do you think there is an objective purpose for 1121 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,360 humanity? And if So, what? 1122 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,040 No, that's that that this is a lot of it. 1123 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,920 This is way easier than the other one. 1124 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:23,720 I think that I think that we're all alive right now for a reason 1125 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:31,240 and it's a very special reason. I think that I see I I come at 1126 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,920 it more from AI guess religious way, cuz it's for lack of a 1127 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,760 better word, but it's more of AIII 100% agree or I 100% 1128 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:47,760 believe that humanity. This is like it's like a 1129 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,560 learning experience. The only way I can really kind 1130 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,840 of phrase this is see, I'm from Detroit. 1131 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:57,960 So I feel like anyone that's coming from Earth, we have when 1132 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,880 we move on to the next phase of our our life or our existence or 1133 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,800 whatever, we're going to have more clout. 1134 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,920 Earth is the Detroit of the Galaxy or the universe. 1135 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,720 We're placed on this this, this planet. 1136 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,720 Well, we're making the spaceships here. 1137 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,800 What's going on? We're placed that we're our, our 1138 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,160 spirits are are placed on this planet. 1139 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,720 Oh, so this is like a like a, a soul's nursery, is what you're 1140 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,640 saying? Or something along those lines. 1141 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,360 Yeah, again, I I really subscribe to the the I think 1142 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,440 they're theories from the Book of the Dead or whatever, but you 1143 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,800 have a purpose and you have to fulfill your objective or you're 1144 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,160 sent back. Now, does that mean you're sent 1145 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,600 back into a human or something or to a whole nother place? 1146 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,240 I have no idea. But I know that you're you have, 1147 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,320 you have to to learn something. I remember we were kind of 1148 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,120 talking and I don't know what we read it on, but it it said that 1149 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,160 to, to take yourself to the next level, you have to become a 1150 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,040 parent. Do you remember that at all? 1151 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,320 I don't know what that that that sounds like something 1152 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,960 interesting. I don't know what that's from 1153 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,000 though. But it does make kind of sense 1154 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,840 because it's like you have to put yourself in the Creator's. 1155 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,480 Yeah, but what about people that are like born that just like 1156 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,640 can't have kids or something or choose not to? 1157 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,360 Do they come back? Yeah, I understand. 1158 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,000 Or just like reincarnate or something? 1159 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,280 No, I'm again, I don't know if I've 100% subscribed to that 1160 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,000 what I'm just saying, but I'm saying we all have some kind of 1161 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:29,720 task to accomplish and if we don't accomplish it, then we 1162 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,400 have to do it again. Do. 1163 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,760 You think it's like a simulation like that though? 1164 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,120 Like a video, Almost like a video game where if you don't 1165 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,720 complete the correct checkpoints or objectives you can do it kind 1166 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,840 of a thing. If that if that helps you. 1167 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,440 Kind of is an analogy. I'm not saying that life is a 1168 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,200 video game. Right, right, right. 1169 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,120 Well, it kind of is. There's rules and stuff like 1170 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,120 that. Yeah, I, I got it. 1171 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,200 It is a good analogy. That's that's what why people, 1172 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,200 they always have a problem with like, oh, well, why, why doesn't 1173 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,200 this work? Or, you know, I prayed like for, 1174 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,760 for our dog, for instance, I prayed my ass off. 1175 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:12,080 But in the in the end, when she passed, I was, I, I was upset, I 1176 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,920 cursed God. And then I and then a couple 1177 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,880 days went by and I was, I felt bad because look, I don't know 1178 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,960 what would have happened if she would have survived that she 1179 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,480 might have had all these. Complications. 1180 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,000 You're going to get panned at some point for cursing, I'll 1181 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,440 tell you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1182 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,840 But like, like I said, like I don't I, who am I to question 1183 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,040 what the what the, what the path was? 1184 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,440 Like I said, she might have survived it, but might have not 1185 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,840 been the same. She might have had all these 1186 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,840 health issues. We don't know. 1187 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,240 That's The thing is why am I questioning something? 1188 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,600 I'm a I'm a peon to this guy. OK, so so your answer is to 1189 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,360 complete some sort of fulfill, something you either haven't 1190 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,920 fulfilled before or need to fulfill to move on. 1191 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,920 Absolutely, absolutely #3 OK, go on. 1192 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,440 No, no, go on, go on. You can add. 1193 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,760 You can add. Well, I, I did, I did. 1194 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,760 I did want to preface, I or not preface. 1195 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,760 I did want to like emphasize the fact that like we there, this is 1196 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,960 a special time to be alive. And I think that people take it 1197 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,560 for they a lot of people are like, why am I alive in this 1198 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:11,520 time? This is horrible. 1199 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,120 This is horrible, but it's like you're alive right now for a 1200 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,080 reason and there's something coming. 1201 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,800 People that say that obviously don't know history 'cause this 1202 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,160 is the best time to be alive. I mean, you could say you're 1203 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,000 unfortunate if you're born in certain places or certain 1204 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,480 status, whatever, but like for the most part, for the most 1205 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,600 human beings that are alive right now, that's more than it's 1206 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,240 ever lived. The way that their living is 1207 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:43,240 better than they live. 200300400I mean even the golden 1208 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,640 ages of the ancient times were not that golden. 1209 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,120 People are still getting messed up pretty bad. 1210 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,440 So I just think of the what's the movie The bring out You 1211 01:06:52,440 --> 01:07:00,280 dead? OK #3 What do you think happens 1212 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,760 when we die? Oh, I, you know, I have this 1213 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,520 thing written down. This is the first chapter of my 1214 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,520 book. So I believe that. 1215 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,720 All right, we have that. We have DMT built up in our 1216 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,560 systems. We build it up our whole lives. 1217 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:22,440 When you die, the best way to explain it is when you have a 1218 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,400 dream and you're let you, let's say you fall asleep, you wake up 1219 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,280 and you fall back asleep and you wake up again. 1220 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,000 You're like, Oh my God, I was, I, I fell asleep for like 3 1221 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,240 hours, but it was like 5 minutes, right? 1222 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,320 It feels like you were sleeping for a long, long time, but 1223 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,120 really. And in your dream you were alive 1224 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:43,720 for that long again. But I don't want to go very 1225 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,000 simple. When you die, your body releases 1226 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,320 DMT. And the DMT is a connection. 1227 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:55,000 It's a bridge from this realm, dimension, whatever you want to 1228 01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,480 call it to the next and something that people I don't, I 1229 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,480 don't even know if I can fully grasp it, but time doesn't exist 1230 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,000 like to God or to the universe, however you want to say it, time 1231 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,640 doesn't exist to them. So when they say your loved ones 1232 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,840 are waiting for you, they're they're not really waiting for 1233 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,920 you because when they pass, you're with them immediately 1234 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,640 because time doesn't exist. Does that make sense? 1235 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,200 Like it's long for. Us, I mean, I understand what 1236 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,120 you're saying. I don't think it makes sense. 1237 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,319 No, but you've talked, you know, we've, I think what was it the 1238 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:36,279 episode the second time we had Rick Strassmann on to interview 1239 01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:42,359 him and you guys were talking about like film and all that 1240 01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,040 kind of stuff. I think you you were both 1241 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:49,040 riffing on that idea too, like dying and DMT and what happens. 1242 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,800 And obviously it's been a subject of many episodes that 1243 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,720 we've done and stuff, so. That's where that's where I 1244 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,399 would take it. So even when when you people 1245 01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:02,080 have had near death experiences and stuff like that, like you're 1246 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:09,160 in that kind of that realm, that infinite time realm, which there 1247 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,200 is no time, it's just Infinity or whatever. 1248 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,279 You're in that for a time and then you get sucked back into 1249 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,560 the reality where time exists and things like that. 1250 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:24,359 But yeah, I truly think that there's something to do with DMT 1251 01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:26,240 'cause I think that that's essentially dreams. 1252 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:30,040 You're getting a very light dose of it when you're when you're 1253 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,560 dreaming, you're getting very, very little amount. 1254 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,520 But when you pass, it all is released. 1255 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,600 And like I said, it's almost like a bridge. 1256 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:45,040 So you ride that bridge and maybe you do end up you, you can 1257 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,279 never go away because you're stuck in that infinite time. 1258 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,760 Your body and everything here will decompose and and go away. 1259 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:59,920 But the fact that you're riding that DMT rainbow into Infinity, 1260 01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:01,840 that's that's what I really think happens. 1261 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,480 And maybe. That's what you think happens. 1262 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,240 OK, now for the final question. We're going to it's going to 1263 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,880 always end up a little bit upbeat because those can go a 1264 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,360 little dark, the early ones. What do you I? 1265 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,560 Want to watch these and see what these other people say. 1266 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,800 Now this is my favorite. Psych What do you hope happens 1267 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,240 when we die? You told me what you think 1268 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,200 happens now. What do you hope happens when we 1269 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:33,040 die? I hope that we are all that's 1270 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,680 back to the True Detective. Man, I love the last episode 1271 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,600 when Rust, he goes into a coma and he comes out of it and it's 1272 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,000 a very subtle thing that a lot of people don't pick up on that 1273 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,000 show. The one detective is he's so 1274 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,800 negative the entire show. He's his daughter was killed. 1275 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,720 He hates life. It really propels him to be a 1276 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,920 good detective, but he's just not happy. 1277 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,280 He's very, you know, like I said, he's very pessimistic. 1278 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,160 And at the very end he's talking about he was in this coma and he 1279 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,840 was with his daughter, and they just kind of fade out together. 1280 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,720 And then the other guy, Woody Harrelson's like, Oh yeah, look 1281 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,240 at the stars. It looks like there's a lot of 1282 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,760 darkness. It looks like the darkness is 1283 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,600 winning. And then Matthew McConaughey is 1284 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,440 like, well, in the beginning everything was dark. 1285 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,600 And now look at it. It's almost like the light is 1286 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,480 winning. And it's the first time the guy 1287 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:29,680 ever says anything positive. I the writing is phenomenal, 1288 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:34,880 Like that little section of the show is so good, but to me it's 1289 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:39,440 like, I hope that you pass, you get into the, you get on that DM 1290 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:44,040 tree, the DMT bridge, and then you kind of are. 1291 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,800 Given me that DM tree. That's what I'm looking for. 1292 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,400 It's a new. It's a new strain dude. 1293 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,520 It's it's bud. But you, you fucking catapult 1294 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,520 you like DMT? And you just have you. 1295 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,760 I think you just, I hope that you get joined up with all your 1296 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:04,480 loved ones and whether it's actual forms hanging out and 1297 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:07,360 conversing or it's just an energy ball and you're just with 1298 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,880 these people and you just kind of fade out into Infinity 1299 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,840 together. I would hope that you are 1300 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,680 rejoined with everything and anything that you've ever loved. 1301 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,080 That would be my I. I hope that's what happens. 1302 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:25,120 You know, the crazy thing is, is it's probably nothing that our 1303 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,080 brain is even capable of comprehending because a lot of 1304 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,400 the stuff like the stuff that I'm talking about with the DMT, 1305 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,480 it's all based in science. But how can you? 1306 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,440 What did you eat? A sausage and Peppers for 1307 01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:38,360 dinner. What's going on? 1308 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:39,840 Yeah. No, I got this guy. 1309 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:44,160 Got some real Heartbird? I just saw this. 1310 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,240 Cool. And a Polish sausage and some 1311 01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:48,600 some green Peppers. Yeah. 1312 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,480 Can you smell this through the mic? 1313 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:57,720 Smell the glove. But if it is like a video game, 1314 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,680 we don't know 'cause we're programmed to not understand the 1315 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,040 programming, I guess. Well, that's, that's the thing 1316 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,760 about consciousness, consciousness, right? 1317 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,800 Like I, I mean, I've heard this argument, I've even made it 1318 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,560 myself. Like is it even possible to 1319 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:16,320 understand consciousness without being outside of Like we can't 1320 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,560 get out of our own. We can get close, like if you do 1321 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,760 psychedelics or whatever, but. We can do. 1322 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,040 Near death experiences yeah exactly. 1323 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,360 But like to to really understand consciousness, something else 1324 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,880 would need to study us. You know maybe AI can do it in 1325 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,800 the future. I mean, who knows but. 1326 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,640 Yeah, I I kind of equate it to like, oh, when we see when when 1327 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,880 we think of aliens, we think of organisms like us, but we have 1328 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,200 no idea what they could be. They could be microscopic, they 1329 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,080 could be liquid, they could be. We don't know. 1330 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,240 So for us to even comprehend, I love the analogy of the video 1331 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,680 game. It's like you can't think of the 1332 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,800 guy who created this or the entity that's created this thing 1333 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,320 because you can't even get outside the game. 1334 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,280 But the reason I. Think about even like gut 1335 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,720 bacteria, dude. Like some gut bacteria makes you 1336 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,600 want to eat sugar, you know? Like something's compelling you 1337 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,200 to do something that's tiny and microscopic, that lives in your 1338 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,160 body, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. 1339 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:18,840 I so that that's what I would like to happen is I get rejoined 1340 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,200 with all our loved ones and stuff like that. 1341 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,920 But the fact of the matter is, is we can't If if, if humans 1342 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:33,920 ever were to crack the great mystery of either, yes, there is 1343 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,920 a place to go when you die or no, there isn't. 1344 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,760 It wouldn't it, it, it's, it's not, you can't have it. 1345 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,000 You can't know if you're going to die or not. 1346 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,440 Because if you did, the rules of the game would be shattered. 1347 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:49,560 Like if you knew there was a heaven, people would just jump 1348 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,600 off buildings and shit. They'd, they wouldn't care. 1349 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,400 Or maybe they would because they would be afraid of where they 1350 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,320 would go. But it's like if you knew that 1351 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,120 you would get a retry or something like that. 1352 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,520 Like the fact that we don't know. 1353 01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:02,680 Again, like a video game, you get respond or. 1354 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,640 Right, right. But like I said, the fact that 1355 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,720 we don't know keeps us in check. That's why it's important 1356 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,880 because people are like, well, if there's a God or whatever, 1357 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,800 why can't we know that he's there? 1358 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,240 And that's the whole point is you can't know because if you 1359 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,000 did know, it wouldn't there wouldn't. 1360 01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:19,600 Well, and it. Wouldn't make any. 1361 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,200 To the analogy of the video game though, I think it makes a lot 1362 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,960 of sense because we're either projecting our own psyches of 1363 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,400 like either what we want to happen or what we are on a video 1364 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:34,840 game or it's what we think it is going on kind of a thing, right? 1365 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:39,600 Because you know, you want to come back or you know respawn or 1366 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,240 you want to keep going on after the mission's completed and move 1367 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,400 on to something else or join up with other people or, you know, 1368 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,720 just the whole idea of it now. I mean, maybe not when we were 1369 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,440 playing Pong or. Yeah, that's poop. 1370 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,200 You know, Donkey Kong or whatever. 1371 01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:59,040 But, well, the country. You know Donkey Kong Country 1372 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,560 transcends time and space. At least the music. 1373 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:04,800 What do? Is there more questions? 1374 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,280 Or is it that is? That that was the four. 1375 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,120 You answered them all beautiful. And we'll do it one more time, 1376 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:27,680 just for the hell of it. There we go. 1377 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,800 Did you write that music? I did. 1378 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,560 I wrote the music and the visuals. 1379 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,120 I that's awesome. I haven't. 1380 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,400 For anybody that doesn't know, I do all the music for our 1381 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,600 podcast. I enjoy it. 1382 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,440 I enjoy it thoroughly. Yeah, and Maurice does music 1383 01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:43,520 too. If you've never checked it out, 1384 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,040 go check it out. Dogo DO e.g? 1385 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,960 Wow dude, it's it's been already 76 minutes. 1386 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:50,880 That's crazy. It's. 1387 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:56,120 Way past your bedtime, you got to go meditate to pan. 1388 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:02,560 Yeah, again, I'd love everyone to check out our Spanish Lounge. 1389 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,840 There's a link in the bio it it'll take you to the YouTube 1390 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,520 channel. If you guys wouldn't mind 1391 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,520 popping over there just giving us a subscribe. 1392 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,320 And then if you're actually interested in learning Spanish, 1393 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,960 there's a link to our waiting list and very fun atmosphere. 1394 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,560 What is it? Is it like a? 1395 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,200 Is it? Is it like a course? 1396 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,880 Is it just content? Is it? 1397 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:29,040 So it's, it's it's it's it's kind of a, a both It's 2 live. 1398 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,760 But is it like one on when you say waiting list? 1399 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,760 Is it like a one-on-one type scenario? 1400 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,360 No, you can. You can upgrade to waiting list. 1401 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,800 Everything is kind of in the, in the world of like you're at a 1402 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,760 nightclub kind of thing. So we do these twice a week. 1403 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,920 They're happy hours and there's a curriculum the 2 girls have 1404 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:50,960 like a, you know, a curriculum for the day, whether it's we're 1405 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,040 going to learn about this letters or, or numbers, It's 1406 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,000 really based on your level 2. So once you get into our, our 1407 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,200 system, we get to, we, we talk to you and figure out if you're 1408 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,040 a beginner, intermediate or, or expert. 1409 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,400 And then that's going to determine what kind of happy 1410 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,440 hour you're going to have. Then we group you with other 1411 01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:10,560 people. So like I'm a beginner, I would 1412 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,920 be in the the beginner section and you learn about the alphabet 1413 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,320 and numbers and things like that. 1414 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:20,200 But if you're more advanced, it's really just very immersive 1415 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,560 conversations where you're, you're just talking to the 2 1416 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,240 girls kind of thing. They have, like I said, they 1417 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,080 have like a curriculum. We're going to talk about going 1418 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,560 to the gym today or something like you're interested in for 1419 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:31,360 you. It's like we're going to talk 1420 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,560 about guitars. So everything's in Spanish 1421 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,000 you're talking? About and languages. 1422 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,960 I mean, I was very good at Spanish when I was younger. 1423 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,040 It was in all the advanced in AP classes and stuff. 1424 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,400 But you lose the conjugations and stuff if you don't use it. 1425 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,760 You know, kind of like that old adage, if you don't use it, you 1426 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,960 lose it. I remember my wife learned 1427 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:55,440 Italian during the pandemic and now she she couldn't tell you 1428 01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:58,280 anything. We were watching Stanley Tucci 1429 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,880 in Italy and she she didn't know what was going on when they were 1430 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,360 speaking Italian. So there's. 1431 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,800 There's actually a lot of commonalities between Italian 1432 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,360 and in Spanish, but I didn't know you took Spanish. 1433 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,440 Yeah, it's the the whole thing about any language is it's, 1434 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,160 that's why the immersion technique works so good. 1435 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:18,120 So like, we're generating this artificial atmosphere where you 1436 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,840 don't have to go to Spain, you don't have to go to Ecuador, you 1437 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,280 don't have to go to Mexico to be immersed in the language. 1438 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,040 You're going to sit in these happy hours and you get to talk 1439 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,760 with real native girls that are going to kind of help you along. 1440 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,080 So it's, it's a cause. The other thing that people get 1441 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,840 worried about is like, I don't want to talk to, to natives and, 1442 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,560 and make mistakes and look like an idiot. 1443 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,840 It's like this is a no judgement zone. 1444 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,000 You get to talk to the girls. They're going to help you with, 1445 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,720 like you said, like your pronunciation or your, you know, 1446 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,760 the verbs and things like that. And there's it's. 1447 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,120 It hurts my mind. I mean, I'm going to make a spin 1448 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,200 off show like Mystery Science Theater where I watched that 1449 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,720 happening and it's my hand shadow in the background. 1450 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,880 I just start. Laughing amazing you look at 1451 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:01,800 this idiot. I mean, I would be the worst one 1452 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,680 there. And I'm married to to a Latin 1453 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,440 woman. So it's like, but when I was in 1454 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:07,800 Ecuador for 10 days, like you just start picking up on things 1455 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,680 because you're, you have no other option. 1456 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,720 You're surrounded by it. So yes, the course is built 1457 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,120 around these two times a week. You get these happy hours, but 1458 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,280 there's other curriculum, there's other stuff that we 1459 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,560 provide there's like worksheets and things like that. 1460 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,000 And there's a full community where everybody gets the kind of 1461 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,760 talk and hang out, and it's almost like our own, like 1462 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,400 little. Discord built into the the 1463 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,720 program, so when you sign up, you get access to all that stuff 1464 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,960 and we send you different, like I said, PDFs and little videos 1465 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,320 that help you along and kind of help you get prepared for each 1466 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,720 happy hour. But the whole point is to get 1467 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,480 into these happy hours and immerse yourself in the language 1468 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:49,720 and try not to talk English or whatever, but it's really based 1469 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,960 on your skill level. The more expert, the more it's 1470 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,320 like there's not going to be much English talk going on here 1471 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,680 because you're in the expert level, like you want to be in 1472 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,680 it. And then when you go down, 1473 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,200 obviously the beginners, they have to have some English 1474 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,280 explanations and stuff like that. 1475 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,880 But that's really where the girls shine as they're both 1476 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,560 fluid in in English. So it's like a lot of these 1477 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,360 people get these instructors and teachers and stuff like that and 1478 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,480 you can't even understand what they're saying because their 1479 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:19,760 accents are so thick. You know, one of our customers 1480 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,400 is like, yeah, I took AI took lessons from a, a, a lady from 1481 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,480 Spain, but I didn't even I couldn't understand what she was 1482 01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:28,760 saying because she was so she was a Spaniard. 1483 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,080 But these girls are, you know, they were, they were flight 1484 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,680 attendants and stuff for a while. 1485 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:37,440 So they've built a really good English vocabulary. 1486 01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:39,240 They're they're pretty. I mean, my wife is straight 1487 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,120 fluid in English. Like you can just talk to her 1488 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:41,440 in. English. 1489 01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:41,720 Yeah. No. 1490 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:42,600 Paula. Yeah. 1491 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,200 It's she. She knows there's not. 1492 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,280 I don't think there's anything I've ever said where she didn't 1493 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,600 understand what I was saying. Right, Totally, totally. 1494 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,680 So so that's it. I would really appreciate 1495 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,200 everybody to check out the channel, give us a like give us 1496 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,960 a subscribe that would be great. But it was great to to do this 1497 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,840 again with you, my friend, that I'm pumped up and hopefully we 1498 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,880 can maybe do. It again, yeah, full circle. 1499 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,160 I mean, we started 2017 around Christmas time and. 1500 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,600 Crazy. Yeah, here we are. 1501 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:18,640 And like I said, go check out the Spanish Lounge if you will, 1502 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,520 and go check out them. You guys are on Instagram right? 1503 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,840 Yes, Sir, we're on everything. Go check out the YouTube 1504 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:32,440 channel, the Instagram. I have the link to their 1505 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,480 YouTube. Yeah. 1506 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,080 There's a link in the. In the I'll I'll I'll pin it 1507 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,240 when you put it in there. Yeah, maybe you guys could brush 1508 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,360 up on your Spanish and then go down and and meet Maria. 1509 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:50,840 Sabina's nice. Go see some coaxial collateral. 1510 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:54,440 I was telling Paulo all about that today. 1511 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:59,160 Yeah, yeah, No, I'd like to talk to her about like the like 1512 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,280 Mesoamerican metaphysics and stuff like that. 1513 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,760 Yeah, they do a lot of the ayahuasca stuff because, again, 1514 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,560 they have the Amazon there, so it's like super heavy. 1515 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:15,000 She doesn't know anything about drugs or anything, but she knew 1516 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,640 about ayahuasca and stuff, so it's pretty cool. 1517 01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:23,600 Nice. And again, if you haven't 1518 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,320 checked it out already, my other passion project I've been 1519 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,320 working on, which I've been spending a lot of my time on is 1520 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,160 called Masters of Rhetoric. It's a philosophy podcast slash 1521 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:40,120 course where it looks at the the roots of philosophy. 1522 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,640 It's almost like a history of philosophy slash learning the 1523 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,360 basics of what the earliest philosophers knew and building 1524 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,440 off of that. I have the links down below and 1525 01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:54,320 I have episodes one through 5 full episodes. 1526 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,400 I'm working on the next 5. I just have to record them. 1527 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,640 There's slideshow episodes and there's lots of material and I 1528 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,520 made shorts, so there's like a ton of shorts on there. 1529 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,880 So if you want to look at stuff from Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, 1530 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,640 the Soffice, whatever, all that stuff's on there. 1531 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,040 And I'll be spending a lot of time on that as well. 1532 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,960 So this is the bridge. This is the end of mine to 1533 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,160 escape 11 point O. But again, I'll be continuing my 1534 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:29,480 escape is new Telos, where I will be looking at more of 1535 01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:34,480 things from a critical eye and looking at the epistemology of 1536 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:36,800 these topics. How do we know what we know on 1537 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,480 these things? And I'm not going to try and 1538 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:41,160 like debunk. I'm not going to come out 1539 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:46,040 swinging at anybody or, you know, coming at any any other 1540 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,160 people in these spaces. I'm just going to put the 1541 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,280 information out there. So is where I've in the past 1542 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,240 maybe done been critical of other people in these spaces or 1543 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:57,760 whatever. I'm not going to do that anyway. 1544 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:58,840 I don't care. I'm just going to put the 1545 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,800 information out there and let people figure it out for 1546 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,640 themselves. I'm not here to change anybody's 1547 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,600 mind in that regard. The second you start going after 1548 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:10,000 people's characters, the the dividing line sets in and nobody 1549 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,280 learns anything. So. 1550 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,800 Well, if you want to, you can come at me if you need to 1551 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,680 exercise that that anger. Yeah, I'm always here for. 1552 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,480 You no, no, but it's not again, it's not even, it's not even 1553 01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:22,040 about that. I've come to the point now where 1554 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,760 it's just like, I feel like people, you know, that argue on 1555 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,760 some of these topics, they don't know what's out there already. 1556 01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,720 You know, they don't either have the time. 1557 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,960 They don't know that there's this kind of information out 1558 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,040 there. And I've spent the time, you 1559 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,400 know, I spent the last eight years reading as many fringe 1560 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,280 books. I've read academic books, fringe 1561 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:47,240 books, everything in between to, to get a good idea of where this 1562 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:51,360 line of, you know, reality and metaphysics is. 1563 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,840 And coming in, I kind of had had a feeling of more, maybe there's 1564 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,400 more magic. But through the process, I've 1565 01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,920 learned we are the magic. You can keep searching for 1566 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:04,080 things externally, but we are this living, breathing magic for 1567 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,360 real. Like you don't need to go find 1568 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,680 aliens because we are aliens. You know what I'm saying? 1569 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:14,080 Like we are this, this weird thing that exists right here, 1570 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,920 right now. You don't need to go searching 1571 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,720 for it. So let's learn more about us and 1572 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,400 where we come from. And that's kind of what I'm 1573 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,400 looking to do, if that makes sense. 1574 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,920 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. 1575 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,200 And again, being super critical of like I've tore myself down 1576 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:37,280 and given myself a complete self appraisal like entertaining the 1577 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,400 most nihilistic thoughts to the most believer thoughts and 1578 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,880 everything in between. So, you know, I'm very aware of 1579 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:50,560 my cognitive biases in my own flaws and blind spots and things 1580 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,560 like that. And if I'm wrong about 1581 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,760 something, I try to admit it, you know, or, you know, own up 1582 01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:00,640 to it, fix it, whatever. And the same thing in terms of, 1583 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,000 you know, all these topics. You know, I think if people were 1584 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,480 just more honest, like, you know, I like aliens, but I 1585 01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:10,080 really want to know what happens when we die. 1586 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,640 That's why I'm in aliens. Maybe if we find out there's 1587 01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,440 aliens, maybe they'll be able to tell us what happens kind of a 1588 01:27:16,440 --> 01:27:18,080 thing, you know, if that makes sense. 1589 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,640 I'm sure, I'm sure we're going to have some crazy insight over 1590 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,360 the next couple of years. So yeah, we got to, we got to 1591 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,880 keep talking, we got to keep exploring and we got to just 1592 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:35,640 keep learning and and not trying to stick to some some thought 1593 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,320 process when everything is changing and always changing. 1594 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,040 And you know, the other thing too is that, you know, there's 1595 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,480 been a huge movement for for like anti science. 1596 01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:48,840 And I think science is how we got here. 1597 01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,200 So it's like, why are we Pooh poohing the thing that, you 1598 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,320 know, got us to the dance, if you will? 1599 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,040 That doesn't mean they can't speculate. 1600 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,360 It doesn't mean you can't look at metaphysics or anything like 1601 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,160 that. But let's not deny the thing 1602 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,200 that has changed our lives forever, everybody. 1603 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:09,560 And if you, you know so, yeah. Let's beautiful statement. 1604 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,720 Let's end on that bad boy. Let's end on that. 1605 01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:19,560 Thank you so much again, my my bro Maurice for the last eight 1606 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,000 years and again, we've made the documentary as within so without 1607 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,480 from UFOs to DMT. You can go check that out on our 1608 01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:29,400 YouTube channel as well. Maurice did a lot of work on 1609 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,720 that, editing and filming and everything like that. 1610 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,840 And shout out to everybody we've had on as a guest from the 1611 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:40,360 people in our documentary, Chris and Shane and Toby and and 1612 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,240 Doctor Andrew Gallimore and Rick Strassman and Greg Little and 1613 01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:48,320 just anybody that we've crossed paths with and PD Newman and all 1614 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,680 these wonderful people and friends of the show. 1615 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,680 And there's so many people. And if you're interested, again, 1616 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:59,040 the 1st 325 episodes or 300 whatever are archived, they're 1617 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,240 on our Patreon. You can go check it out $2.00 a 1618 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,760 month. But yeah, we're, I'm going to 1619 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:11,040 start making new content here and I'll still do interviews, 1620 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,520 I'm sure and intertwine them into episodes and stuff like 1621 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,240 that. So look for that, but this was 1622 01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:19,680 probably the last live one for the foreseeable future. 1623 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,320 And what a way to end it with Maurice's first real paranormal 1624 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,960 pan experience. There it is, pan to man. 1625 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:30,760 We're just going to title this one hook. 1626 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,080 Yeah, you got to click on it to figure it out. 1627 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,440 It's me on the head of Rosie to the. 1628 01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:38,280 Blues Traveller, we're getting this episode taken down. 1629 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,680 There you go. But no, thank you so much to 1630 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,440 everybody who helped make the show possible, from being a 1631 01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:49,520 guest to writing books for us to read and podcast to share and 1632 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,840 all the wonderful stuff. And we'll end this one the same 1633 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:57,600 way we end all the episodes that we ever have done, which is we 1634 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,240 love everybody. Stay safe out there, and we'll 1635 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,880 catch you next time. Peace. 1636 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:02,680 Peace.