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Thoroughly bundled in a warm 
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Mittens, I assemble myself for 
my new tradition, a winter 

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solstice walk new because I only
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I didn't mark the solstice with 
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mostly, I was simply grateful 
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year arrived. 
Knowing that this signaled, the 

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beginning of longer daylight 
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arrived. 
And with it, these sacred and 

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still dark days. 
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was one toward a little more 
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The winter solstice is the 
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is this very darkness that helps
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And every new minute of daylight
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onward, toward more light. 
This year feels different. 

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I'm savoring winter in a way I 
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There are both subtle shifts in 
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career, which I am taking time 
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I'm taking time to savor 
wintering using my resources to 

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absorb the last 12 months and 
prepare for the new year. 

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Ahead wintering is a concept. 
I recently learned from 

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Katherine May based on her book 
of the same title wintering is 

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the act of doing what winter 
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Slowing down pulling resources 
into oneself, exploring quiet, 

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time and activities and finding 
healing through small things. 

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But that's where the 
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Though, I didn't previously 
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solstice. 
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Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights
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during winter light can often be
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Miracles. 
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Find ways to let light in and 

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let light become a part of our 
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My name is Dori Robinson and 
this is tree speech a podcast 

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where we strive to listen to the
forest through the trees. 

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This week's episode was written 
and recorded in Massachusetts on

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the native lands of the wabanaki
Confederacy, Penacook 

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massachusett and Pawtucket 
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And in New York on the land of 
the Lenape tribes Tree speech is

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co-written and produced by 
Jonathan's out, Nur with a light

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theater. 
Guild, in today's episode, we'll

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explore the winter solstice 
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woods. 
Including several folk tales 

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about the season, rituals old, 
and new and an interview with 

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Jonathan Burns of London 
Christmas tree rental, who 

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offers an environmentally 
sustainable option to celebrate 

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the lights of you'll Learning 
about the winter solstice from 

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our episode last year was very 
special to me. 

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I felt fortunate to share tales 
and traditions from around the 

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world. 
Now, I carry those stories with 

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me as I walk today and I will 
share a few. 

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As we listen for new Tales, the 
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History and Science before we 
jump in the word Solstice 

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derives from the Latin word, 
Solstice IAM and translates to 

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Sun stand still in the northern 
hemisphere. 

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The Need 22 Solstice took place 
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occurs when either of the 
Earth's poles reaches its 

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maximum tilt away from the Sun, 
the early Romans Egyptians 

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Druids and others observed. 
That by December the fields were

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no longer producing. 
Crops leaves had fallen off 

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trees and many plants had died. 
Daylight hours, were waning, and

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the sun was getting lower and 
lower in the sky in a world 

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without internet. 
Nets almanacs satellites or 

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knowledge of astronomy, the 
increasing darkness and Colder. 

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Weather inspired fear in order 
to dispel the sphere cultures 

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from around the world developed 
rituals to beckon the sun to 

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return to its full Glory rather 
than continuing on its path 

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disappearing. 
More and more each day each 

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culture, Mark the ebbing 
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fire festivals and rituals were 
born out of eating the sun with 

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light and warmth and simply 
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At this time of year, I used to 
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searching for answers or Solace 
since then the world of this 

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particular Forest has grown less
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I've seen several trees enough 
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I've listened to the Creeks of 
various trees leaning on one 

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another for support. 
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tapping. 
About what sounds like messages 

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while hunting for food. 
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dried up during the summer 
droughts and celebrated when the

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rain and water return. 
This fall today, I bring the 

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forest some small offerings 
carrying several gourds, 

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beautiful, fall decorations, 
that can now feed the deer and 

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other creatures in the woods. 
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recently, where deer come to 
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which way to go, so Speakers 
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together. 
Thinking about the dear, I am 

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reminded about the Dear Mother. 
The feminine source for the 

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story of Rudolph long ago. 
People believed that the dear 

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mother took flight on the 
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winter solstice carrying the 
sun's life-giving lights safely 

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in her. 
Antlers all while drawing, the 

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sleigh of the sun goddess behind
her known as the life-giving 

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mother. 
Dear mother has long been 

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associated with the gifts of 
fertility, Regeneration and The 

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Rebirth of the Sun in so many 
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She perfectly encapsulates. 
The winter solstice in ancient 

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drawings and pictographs. 
Her antlers are often depicted 

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as the Tree of Life carrying the
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What a wonderful reminder. 
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happen at any time. 
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lessons about the winter 
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That magic, It is inter woven 
into our everyday lives even and

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maybe, especially during this 
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The trees on this particular 
Trail are mostly bare with a few

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distinct, Evergreen saplings, 
growing, and holly leaves and 

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bushes to be found. 
Holly symbolizes many things for

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different cultures. 
Pagans believed that the prickly

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Thorn would ward off evil 
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The Celts believed that the 
undersides of their leaves would

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provide shelter for fairies who 
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homeowner who hung Holly 
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God, Saturn and thus used as 
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ancient Roman pagan Festival. 
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Saturn Saturnalia celebrations 
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traditions. 
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Saturnalia took place from 
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though. 
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When saturnalia was first 
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for a heavy drinking. 
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order, people decorated with 
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branches, they exchanged gifts 
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light much like our modern day 
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free from work and school, and 
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from declaring war during the 
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The Fragrant and abundant greens
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other colors along this Trail 
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the most enjoyable parts of the 
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It's their time to shine. 
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the most recognizable decoration
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or Christmas tree, which is 
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Juniper or Spruce, the exact 
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It can be traced back to Celtic 
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The Christmas tree we now know 
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decorations and light developed 
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throughout Europe and North 
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Martin Luther is often credited 
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Christmas tree in the 1500s, but
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a yuletide Evergreen wasn't 
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In fact, candles are mentioned 
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celebration in fighting a bit of
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their adoption or invention by 
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became very popular in Germany, 
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before they were brought to the 
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Christmas trees, first became 
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influence of Prince. 
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Elizabeth after his marriage to 
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decorating the All residents 
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inspiring, millions of others to
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and later in the United States. 
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London Christmas tree rental, 
founded in 2018 but Jonathan 

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Burns and Katherine Loveless. 
A few years ago, the two were 

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struck by how many Christmas 
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waiting to be thrown away. 
After a bit of research, they 

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learned that 7 million trees are
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Kingdom. 
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cut down is estimated to be 
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Many of these trees go into 
landfills and aren't able to 

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decompose properly or in a 
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Instead they wrought and emit 
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to do things differently, 
Jonathan and Katherine explored 

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a rental option and created 
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business. 
We spoke with Jonathan Justice. 

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The season was becoming very 
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sustainable way to Mark the 
holiday, let's listen to that 

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interview. 
Now, Hi, Jonathan. 

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Hi Dory. 
How are you today? 

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Yeah, I'm very good. 
Thank you very much, indeed. 

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How are you so far, so good? 
Thank you for making the time to

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speak with us. 
We're really getting into your 

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busiest season. 
It's great to have the 

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opportunity to talk to you guys 
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It's it's approaching the busy 
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Yeah, well, wondering Christmas 
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Rental is such a unique business
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special and so sustainable. 
And I'm excited to speak with 

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you about it. 
Can you walk us through the 

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process of renting a tree? 
No problem at all. 

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So London. 
Christmas tree rental is you say

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we have our website at London, 
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we've kept it. 
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straightforward, prospective 
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choosing a tree that it's is a 
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So it's a prickly a tree than 
your average fir tree, but they 

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have A choice 3, 4 4 4 5 foot 6 
foot, simply click that link 

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order that tree, pay a 30-pound 
refundable deposit, and you get 

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a choice. 
If you're a previous customer, 

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you've rolling over a tree from 
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have delivery. 
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we asked you to come to one of 
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tree. 
Take the tree for Christmas, 

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bring it back. 
That's sort of what I'd how to 

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do it. 
We and that the Hub operation is

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a fantastic way to engage with 
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And we've also found that 
choosing a tree can be, so very 

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subjective. 
It's, it's like human beings, 

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you know, one person's company, 
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some people come along with the 
like, oh, there's a really weird

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looking one. 
I love it. 

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I would say that would be me. 
So what is your background and 

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what led you to start this 
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I'm not a farm of never really 
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enjoyed Christmas and my kids 
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And if this idea just came to me
while I was walking around West 

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London, 1 January and I don't 
know how it is where you guys 

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are but for us in London, it's 
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Will have trees for sale in 
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November early December. 
People will take those cut trees

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home though, using for 
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Christmas gets to January and 
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discarded. 
So we just had Christmas tree 

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graveyards on the Streets of 
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walking around and I come up 
with a brand am ideas, how do we

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do this a bit better? 
Surely, there's got to be a 

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better way to do Christmas and 
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So that is how the idea came to 
be is Just a walk with my 

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business partner, Catherine 
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West London, and me, coming up 
with an idea and then between 

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us. 
Then how do we now put this into

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practice? 
And we trialed it and it sort of

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works. 
And then it just grew, excuse 

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the pun year on year and then 
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So the trees grow in pots. 
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more about that? 
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parts and then as they grow the 
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limit at the moment, which 
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7 foot tree just because the pot
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opportunity to go bigger bigger 
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Sorry, are there special things 
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the trees? 
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hardy Bunch actually. 
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irrigation system songs that are
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year, just to keep that shape as
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bit of water and the right 
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generally are going to look 
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That's amazing. 
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A season. 
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Watering a little trimming, a 
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because beautiful smells you get
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Is that is effectively the tree 
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That's, that's what's happening.
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smell the trees as if they're 
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name their trees. 
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reorder. 
The same one. 

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How did you start that process 
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favorite names? 
You've heard as a good question,

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I don't know. 
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the Brewster's Spruce. 
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things and they're actually 
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decorations on. 
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sure they get the same tree back
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one, that's quite nice. 
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transaction. 
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Have you learned by spending? 
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Did you spend this much time 
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this business? 
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I love the hills and the 
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when you're having a tough day, 
stressful days, getting out and 

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about and doing some of the 
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It's tougher disease at the end 
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You know, you've had a good 
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something that is something 
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It is a stress. 
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well. 
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It's calming it's peaceful. 
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busy world that we live in what 
a special thing to have helping 

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trees and preventing trees 
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and what is the feedback been 
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Yeah this is where it's really 
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Actually the engagement we have 
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We get saying we love the idea. 
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We enjoy the experience or we 
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prickly than we thought. 
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feedback that comes and it's 
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So nice to be able to provide 
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It's just yeah, lovely. 
You made something really 

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special happen in a short amount
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What are your goals for your 
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Oh wow. 
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My dream, I guess I'd love to 
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I mean, that's an incredible 
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I don't even know what 10,000 
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Imagine being able to do service
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of inner part of London. 
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have an ambitious goal, then if 
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way there or something, then I'm
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than I was yesterday. 
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Right. 
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And how wonderful to know that 
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That benefits so many people and
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that has I would say that has 
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it has roots. 
Absolutely. 

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Yeah. 
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Jonathan it is inspiring that 
you had an idea made it a 

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reality and this idea is making 
the planet a better more 

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sustainable place. 
Thank you so much for what you 

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do and for joining us today. 
Dora, thank you so much really, 

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really kind of you to say and 
it's been an absolute Pleasure. 

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We really appreciate it. 
All the best. 

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Jonathan and his partner, 
Catherine show us the power in 

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revisiting holiday traditions. 
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sustainable, even more, the fact
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means that the idea is catching 
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see with many of these winter 
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they change with time London. 
Didn't Christmas tree. 

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Rental is an example of how we 
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our favorite Traditions, but 
keep them in sustainable ways 

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that are good for our Earth and 
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twists and turns I finally found
my path where the deer hang out.

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It's muddy but I don't mind. 
I'm wearing Hardy boots, wool 

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socks and even leg warmers which
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clothing, in my opinion. 
Now, I'm going to throw these 

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gourds over to the other side of
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So that the dear mothers can eat
in peace, Great. 

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Okay. 
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I'll take a moment and drink 
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slightly less soggy sitting 
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It's a good stump. 
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something hot and cozy 
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cold. 
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rain lately so there's a lot of 
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and also mushrooms. 
There's a lot of different fungi

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in the area which reminds me of 
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Amanita muscaria mushroom that 
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Christmas. 
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these mushrooms from their 
striking appearance, a bright 

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red hats, and white dots, 
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anthropologists have learned 
that the smush room was used 

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hundreds of years ago in the 
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the indigenous peoples of the 
North Pole such as the Quarry, 

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ack of Siberia. 
The solstice was a ceremonial 

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and festive time for the 
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Arctic during which shamans 
collected. 

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The Amanita muscaria, mushroom. 
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their hallucinogenic properties,
the mushrooms were extremely 

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toxic and a process had to take 
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including placing them on the 
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The second method was to put 
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over the fire. 
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the Christmas tradition of 
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a fireplace after the shaman had
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Mushrooms. 
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of the Amanita began. 
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their trip, the shamans managed 
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community and they would turn 
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North Star in search of 
knowledge to share. 

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At the end of the hallucinogenic
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the group to begin a solstice 
ceremony which included sharing 

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their Visions with the 
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Shamans Good Tropic. 
Journeys are believed to be 

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related to the idea that Santa 
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and reindeer through the sky to 
deliver gifts over time. 

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This shamanic archetype changed 
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travel of Druids, this 
tradition, spread to Great 

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Britain, then through cultural 
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It was combined with Germanic 
and Nordic myth says, well a 

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cheerful playful and a times 
realistic. 

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Santa Claus was the Ian, that 
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Haddon sundblom in 1931 which 
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Santa Claus. 
Who is dressed in a suit of red 

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and white closely, resembling 
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themselves It is important to 
Mark our growth in understanding

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and inclusion at this time, as 
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Last winter solstice, We 
examined. 

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What we thought was the history 
of the Poinsettia, but we did 

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not know the whole story this 
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the full account. 
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we call, poinsettia is quite 
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the Aztecs long before the 
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Americas. 
The Aztecs used quite Lush. 

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Oh she'll for a variety of 
purposes, including decorations 

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and the production of red and 
purple dyes as well as for 

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medicines derived. 
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responding to the lengthening 
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equinox wild quetta shell in. 
Western Mexico, came into full 

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bloom by the month of December 
the timing of this annual Bloom 

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for wild. 
Quit Lachelle began. 

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The plants association with the 
Christmas season, during the 

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16th century, when missionaries 
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through the indigenous 
communities in Mexico, in the 

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southwestern Mexico City of 
Taxco. 

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Franciscan friars, use the plant
to decorate, a nativity scenes, 

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the plants subsequently came to 
be called La Fleur De Noche, 

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Buena. 
Literally the Christmas Eve 

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flower or simply the Christmas 
flower. 

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In 1828, quit Le show shell was 
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brought to the United States by 
Joel Roberts Point set, the US 

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ambassador to Mexico after 
successfully cultivating the 

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unique plant in his South 
Carolina, Greenhouse Point, set 

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began sharing, the plant with 
friends and colleagues, who 

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marveled at the plants colorful 
transformation during the 

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holiday season quietly show 
shell came to be known by its 

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most enduring name. 
Poinsettia after the man who 

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first appropriated the plant 
from Mexico Point set is 

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celebrated for introducing the 
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However, his legacy as a slave 
owner and his role in the 

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displacement of countless 
Native. 

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Americans have led people today 
to reject the name poinsettia in

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favor of the plants native named
Quentin show shell. 

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This year, the winter solstice 
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commemorates, the maccabean 
revolt against the Greeks and 

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the second century, BCE marked 
by the rededication of the 

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second temple. 
The story told to Children is 

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that there was only enough oil 
to light. 

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The Candelabra for one night, 
yet it lasted for eight nights 

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Hanukkah is actually a minor 
holiday but grew in popularity 

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after the Great Waves of Eastern
European immigration of Jews 

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came Came to the United States 
at the turn of the century, the 

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Jewish immigrants. 
Now had Christian neighbors who 

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celebrated Christmas which often
made Jewish children feel left 

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out so Hanukkah and all its 
lovely rituals grew while mostly

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known for things such as Foods 
cooked in oil like latkes potato

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pancakes, and sufganiyot donuts 
and four games like dreidels 

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spinning tops. 
That's not really what the 

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holiday is about. 
One of the main themes is A 

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great miracle happened. 
One involving hope Against All 

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Odds and light during very dark 
times one which allowed the 

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Jewish people to rededicate the 
second temple in Jerusalem. 

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In fact, Hanukkah means 
rededication. 

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It's interesting to me to have a
holiday in the darkest month of 

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the year to explore the idea of 
rededication during the darkest 

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time asking ourselves. 
How do we want to take our next 

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steps? 
Do we want to dedicate ourselves

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to? 
This is also the time of year 

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when people make New Year's 
resolutions, looking on their 

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actions of the previous year and
hoping to embrace their best 

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possible. 
Futures in the year to come. 

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One of the main ways to 
celebrate, the holiday is to 

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light the canoe Kia, a 9 
branched candelabra, increasing 

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one candle every night. 
There's always a bit of dramatic

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build for me, starting with just
one candle, plus the main 

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candle, the shamash, which 
lights the others and increasing

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one more light every day of the 
week until finally, it's full 

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and glows beautifully Against 
The Dark Knight Hanukkah with 

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its themes of Hope rededication 
unlight. 

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Resonates differently with me 
this year with the growing rise 

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in anti-Semitism across the 
United States, I feel myself 

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clinging to this sweet holiday. 
All the more this year, I'm 

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trying to truly let the light in
wherever I can find it 

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physically through the Hanukkah 
candles or Solstice, Yule Log, 

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but spiritually even more. 
I have found light through the 

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hope and inspiration. 
So many of our guests have 

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shared with us this season, they
each let light in, in their own 

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ways, powerful caring woman, all
of whom are change makers in 

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their communities and Beyond 
from Kristen Patterson of 

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project drawdown, exploring the 
intersection of climate Justice 

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and Reproductive Rights casaya 
Bascom, whose Grassroots compost

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business diverted, over two 
million pounds of food scraps, 

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Craps from landfills, and we 
spoke with writer Storyteller 

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and fellow podcaster. 
Heather Porter on ways to 

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connect science, and in ecology 
and about the wisdom of the 

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Sacred rot. 
During the fall months. 

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Finally, we spoke with musician 
and educator neshama carlebach 

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on examining our family trees, 
and finding ways to create new 

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branches saplings and forests. 
Each of these inspiring women, 

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share, light with the world, Old
through the work that they do. 

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It is powerful to note that at a
time when women's rights are 

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being challenged and our bodily 
autonomy is at Great risk. 

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There are simultaneously so many
extraordinary women who are 

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leading the charge in building 
care and greater Consciousness 

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for our communities and 
environments. 

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When I reflect on them. 
I have great hope even during 

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these dark days. 
I'm just finishing my walk now 

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pretty soon, I'll head home to 
take part in another new winter,

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solstice tradition, my 
neighbors. 

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And I now gather for the 
solstice and make a fire 

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together, someone is making 
proper was sale. 

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Even we often let go of 
something from the past year by 

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writing down, thoughts on pieces
of paper and offering those to 

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the fire, giving us a chance to 
start new and fresh in the next 

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year. 
This year, I'm letting Quite a 

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bit, go into the fire and 
leaving what I can behind in 

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2022. 
But next year, I really am 

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looking forward to embracing 
light in all its forms. 

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For me, I'll be thinking about 
ways to give myself a little bit

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of space. 
I've been a perfectionist in the

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past, and if there is anything, 
these last three years have 

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taught me. 
It is to let go of how we 

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normally look at things and our 
Plans. 

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There's a Yiddish saying that 
man plans and God laughs, and I 

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would love to open up to the 
light of flexibility and 

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possibility and Grace. 
In this new year. 

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Last year, we ended our winter 
solstice walk in the Woods, 

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reading a poem. 
Let's continue this tradition, 

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shall we? 
It is my pleasure to send you 

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into the winter, solstice with 
this poem called the shortest 

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day by Susan Cooper. 
And so the shortest day came and

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the year died and everywhere 
down, the centuries of the Snow 

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White world came, people singing
dancing to drive the dark away. 

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They lighted, candles in the 
winter trees, they hung their 

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homes, with Evergreen, they 
burned, beseeching fires, all 

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night long to keep the year 
alive. 

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And when the New Year's Sunshine
blazed awake, they shouted 

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reveling through all the frost 
Ages. 

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You can hear them echoing behind
us. 

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Listen, all the long Echoes sing
the same Delight. 

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This shortest day as promised 
weakens in the sleeping land. 

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They Carol Feast, give. 
Thanks and dearly loved their 

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friends and hope for peace. 
And now, so do we here now, this

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year and every year and welcome,
you'll Thank you for joining us.

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We wish you a warm inspiring 
Solstice filled with light and 

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look forward to connecting with 
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