1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Well, welcome to the Rocker Skating podcast. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:13,920 We have a Spanish duo today on our interview, Tim Deke, Olivia 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Smart. Hi, how are you? 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Hola? Hola What what like Olympics? 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,680 You're all done with the Olympics and you're you're 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,960 getting ready for worlds. How was the Olympics? 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,480 That's hard to describe in in a short sentence, but it was an 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,880 absolute amazing, amazing time. And I will never forget that 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,560 time. It was absolutely different than 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,360 four years ago. And sharing those moments 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,920 together with my partner Olivia was amazing. 12 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:48,800 Like that's literally all I can say. 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Like there was not one moment which I was like, you know, 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:58,160 there was 24/7 stuff going on and we enjoyed it a lot. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,680 I think online our on our social media platform you could tell 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,600 that as far as we enjoyed it a lot. 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,800 I mean, it's so crazy, right? You, you both were in Beijing 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,200 four years ago. Obviously nobody was there 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,320 except for the athletes and like me and 100 journalists or 20 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:17,440 whatever it was, how many ever journalists there were. 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,600 It was, it was kind of crazy how different those 2 Olympic 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,560 experiences were. Olivia, what about you? 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Like what? How was there are obviously 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,720 other things that happen. Congratulations on your 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,000 engagement. Thank you. 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,120 But how was your second Olympic experience? 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,360 I used the word kind of like Tim said, but in a brief like one 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,280 word. It's memorable, everything down 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,800 to the opening ceremony of the Olympics and that experience of 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,200 carrying the flag for Spain, then the competition going as 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,280 well as it did for Tim and I and having 2 great Olympic skates. 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,000 And that's what every athlete dreams of, is like performing at 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,560 their best at the Olympic Games. So when you actually do that, 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,960 you're like, Oh yes, so we did that. 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,280 We had that moment on the ice together at the Olympics with 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,840 our families in the stands and the crowd and like, we got to 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,240 like see them like while we were on the ice and wave up to them. 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,680 And then the the celebrations continued for the both of us, 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,040 but for myself especially because I got engaged. 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,520 So my whole Olympic experience, I left and I was like, what did 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,480 I do to deserve all of this? What did I do? 42 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,760 Because I feel like the luckiest girl on earth right now. 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,320 And everything down to like the Olympic competition, to getting 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,560 engaged, having experience with Tim at the games, my family at 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,720 the games and now John Luke, my fiance. 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,520 It was incredible. And there's like, you know, the 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,520 post Olympic depression that they say is a thing. 48 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,120 I don't know whether it was because we like lived so 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,200 presently in the moment. And just like I know we didn't 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,200 take anything for granted when we were there. 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,240 Weirdly, I don't know about you, Tim, but myself, I haven't had 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,800 that like crash or that down yet. 53 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,120 And I'm fingers crossed in touch wood. 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,280 I don't think I will because I feel like I've grown from this 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Olympic experience and it's changed me in so many ways for 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,040 the better that I'm like not looking in the past and missing 57 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,760 it. I'm like using it moving 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,680 forward. Yeah. 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,680 I'm just super grateful to have experienced an Olympics that's 60 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,880 like a proper Olympics four years ago. 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,920 It was incredible. I had the best time four years 62 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:34,480 ago. Like my Olympics four years ago 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,680 was 2 great skates as well. And it was the moment John, Luke 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,720 and I like kind of started. So I had a great Olympics. 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,280 What a quad, What a? Quad Four years later, who would 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,520 have thought I would have got better? 67 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,960 So yeah, we're really lucky and it sparked and light in the both 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,760 of us that we didn't even think was there. 69 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,640 So we're super grateful and our families as well. 70 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,120 They're like, wow, that was amazing. 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,400 I mean, both of you were there with your partners and your 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,040 partners. And so that experience has to 73 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 have been incredibly good. I mean, Tim, you went a little 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,400 viral, too. Both of you went viral at the 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Olympics. Tim, talk about your matador 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,480 outfit. Well, I had this I'm how to say 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,720 like I had this idea a little of the Olympics, OK, Like I want to 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,680 for some reason, some art came to my mind in the evening. 79 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,600 OK, I want to have some outfit for just our gear and I want to 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,080 I want to do some something crazy. 81 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,880 And then originally I had the plan to do it to win it for our 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,000 for our Spanish singer skater for Tommy, because he was 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,720 getting to the minions and for for Spain as well. 84 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,120 And I was like, that could be an option. 85 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,120 But then we competed the day after. 86 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,000 So I was like, no, I'm not going to go and watch in the this 87 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,040 thing. I'm not going to do that. 88 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,040 I need to focus like come on. But then of course my girlfriend 89 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:08,600 was also there and as getting to the music, the white bull, yeah, 90 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,200 made a lot of sense. And yeah, I told her before 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,440 about that outfit. I didn't told her that I'm going 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,400 to wear it though. And she also actually didn't see 93 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,000 me in the stands, which was funny as well, but just. 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,000 Probably a good, maybe a good thing distraction. 95 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,600 Actually maybe a good thing, but yeah, it was more like for fun, 96 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,240 but also to to really show my full, full support, which I'm 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,080 therefore I was sharing this experience with her and at the 98 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,840 time after my competition to really support her with the 99 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:45,240 nerves going into her individual event, of course. 100 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,440 And yeah, spend a lot of time together, which we unfortunately 101 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,200 usually don't do because we had no long distance relationship, 102 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,440 right. And so it made it even more 103 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,200 special to share this Olympic experience also with her. 104 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,440 It was just, yeah, again, I used the word amazing, very unique 105 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,920 experience. Like not only the Olympics, but 106 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,720 sharing it with your partner and with all your loved ones is 107 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,400 breathtaking. Yeah, for sure. 108 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Words. Like, you know, the two of you 109 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,000 had those moments and they were very early in the Olympics, 110 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,440 right? You, you all skated in within 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,440 the really like the first week of the Olympics. 112 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,280 And then you got to stick around for another week, week and 1/2 113 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:37,960 or so, right? So that you could, you could do 114 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,200 all of the rest of the stuff. Like it's different than a World 115 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,280 Championships where you're completely crammed into a few 116 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:51,200 days and you don't even get to do much else as So what were the 117 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,400 other types of things that you all did? 118 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,640 What were some of the more memorable ones that that that 119 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,200 you had? Well, as you said, like we got 120 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,440 to, we got to the Games, we had about a week to settle in, do 121 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,120 the opening ceremony and then compete. 122 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,600 It was a quicker turn around than what we did four years ago. 123 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,280 But at the same time, like you said, it's also more time than 124 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,920 what it is World Championships. But it was great for us this 125 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,560 time around. I know it wasn't the same for 126 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,720 all athletes. A lot of athletes did have to 127 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,120 leave a couple of days after the event ended. 128 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,520 It really depended on the federation and the situation of 129 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,480 the skater. We were even told that we might 130 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,120 not be able to stay until the end. 131 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,480 But we did kind of fight that because we were like, you're not 132 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,920 kicking me out. But also our aim was to be in 133 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,560 the Olympic Gala with our like fun gala run number. 134 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,160 So we were luckily able to stay. And honestly, good job because I 135 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,200 didn't really well personally, but I know Tim as well. 136 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,960 We didn't do so much of the interactive things in the 137 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,280 Olympic Village prior to our event because it was so 138 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,360 overwhelming and there were so many things to do. 139 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,840 And Tim and I really wanted to conserve our energy and really 140 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,720 focus on the competition 1st. And then we were luckily able to 141 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,680 have the time afterwards to enjoy those things in the 142 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,200 Olympic Village, like going to the Coca-Cola lounge, making a 143 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Coca-Cola kind of a picture, the pin trading like everything was 144 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,280 after the competition for us because it was a lot to take in. 145 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,880 But we were, we are there at the Olympics to compete. 146 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,920 So that's what we wanted to put as our priority. 147 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,159 So then we really dove into like the social side of it 148 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:36,919 afterwards. And for myself, well, also we're 149 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:41,919 in Milan, Italy to explore a bit of Milan as well, to go into the 150 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:44,280 city, go downtown. I know a lot of athletes got 151 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,320 there earlier, so they did that in advance. 152 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,120 But it was nice to just, you know, spend time out of the 153 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Olympic Village as well, see our families in other ways in a new, 154 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,600 in a new place. Go out for a romantic dinner 155 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,160 with our significant others. We went out for a group dinner, 156 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,960 the four of us, so just like have a little, well, a mini 157 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,760 vacation in a way as well because this was our only time 158 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,320 off until we get back into things for the World 159 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Championships. So we're grateful that we were 160 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,480 able to do at the games and also let us kind of like let 161 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,120 everything sink in like what had just happened and also milk the 162 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,960 the spotlight of what the Olympic Games is like. 163 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Figure skating is a niche sport. It's getting more popular, but 164 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,440 we still know that every four years we've become more and more 165 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,960 popular. So during this month, every four 166 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,000 years, you better believe we're milking it as much as we can. 167 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,120 So that's what we did. Yeah. 168 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,400 So just enjoying like the Olympic Village. 169 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,280 There's just so many things to do as an athlete in the village. 170 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Luckily, yeah, even just the pin trading as you know, like take 171 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,400 so took over a big part of our Olympic experience and then 172 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,320 going to watch other events. Both of us went to as many 173 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,080 hockey games as we could. Tim went to the long track, we 174 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,840 both went to short track and then to watch the pairs events, 175 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,200 etcetera. Like we wanted to watch as many 176 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,400 events as we could also being at the Olympic Games because that 177 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,640 was also not so much a thing four years ago for us. 178 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,400 So yeah, just really enjoy the Olympic spirit after the 179 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,360 competition when you can fully like, take it all in as well. 180 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,400 So great. Yeah, overwhelming has been the 181 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,520 word that I've heard the most number of times when people are 182 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,960 talking about the actual village. 183 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,920 It's just like sensory overload for sure. 184 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Yeah, like I remember having to go to the dining hall with my 185 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,560 headphones in a couple of times just to be like, don't speak to 186 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,640 anybody. Like I need this like moment of 187 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,760 peace and quiet. But that never happened. 188 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Like it's like being on a school trip. 189 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,160 That's how I literally how I described it as is being on a 190 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,000 school trip in high school. But it was a three-week long, 191 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,960 like, school trip. I took. 192 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,200 I took a book. Yeah, I took a book to read. 193 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Did I read a page? I read, like, a few pages before 194 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,280 bed. But other than that, you're in 195 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,160 your room and you're like, I feel like I'm missing out on 196 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,760 things outside. And and the things outside where 197 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,000 people being like can I trade a pin with you? 198 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:10,720 Oh my God. Someone. 199 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Said in the dining hall. The the, the people who give you 200 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,120 the food, even them were like, oh, Spain, you're pretty rare. 201 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,480 You have a pin like with those eyes. 202 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,280 You're like, can I just have a boiled egg, please? 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,840 Yeah. Yeah, a little aggressive. 204 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,680 A little aggressive, Yeah. OK. 205 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaking of Beijing, I want to maybe take you back four years 206 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,560 ago, we talked about the weird Olympic experience a little bit 207 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:43,680 of Beijing, but you all were with different partners there, 208 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,520 right, Tim, you're with Katarina and and Olivia, you're with 209 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Adrian and subsequently got together in the offseason after 210 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,040 that. So tell me about the the origins 211 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,400 of it. I'm sure you've talked about it 212 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,280 a number of times that I want to want to just hear four years 213 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,960 after, like how, what, what does the origin story look like for 214 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,160 you? Go ahead. 215 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,760 Yeah, it really started with like us not skating with our 216 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,240 former partners anymore, right. Adrian retired and I stopped 217 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,200 skating with my former partner in Katarina after the Olympics 218 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,920 or more like after the World Championships towards the end of 219 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,920 the season. And then we were both, I can 220 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,680 speak for the both of us in that moment. 221 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:32,520 We were both like in the moment we were like, what do we do? 222 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,400 What's next? Like what, where do we want to 223 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,520 go? For me, it didn't didn't took 224 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,800 too long to be honest, like maybe a month and a half, two 225 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,920 months where I was like, OK, now I definitely want to continue. 226 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,040 I have so much fire still in me. I want to continue skating, 227 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,560 looking for a new partner. And Olivia was probably the 228 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:56,520 first one I texted because I saw it online that she also stopped 229 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,160 skating with Adrian. And then we knew each other for 230 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,240 a long time, of course, from from skating. 231 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,800 But the first answer was, yeah, no, she was not. 232 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,800 She was not in the headspace that they went out in the 233 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,880 headspace at that moment. Maybe you want to say that you 234 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,200 were in Montreal still, but like what was going on? 235 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,480 I was in limbo of like, am I going to continue? 236 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Am I not going to continue? I was, yeah, I was really going 237 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,680 for a tough time, like personally with my career being 238 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:31,000 put on pause and the way it happened and also like my 239 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 relationship at the time. And I was just like, I don't 240 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,560 want to say yes to this guy and just be be blow up in his face. 241 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,720 So I did. I very honestly said like, look, 242 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,080 this is a really bad time. I'm not ready for this right 243 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,240 now. Like it's not you. 244 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,840 It's a no. Kinda. 245 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,360 Yeah. So yeah, I gave him a no, but it 246 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,920 wasn't like a no. But check back in with me in a 247 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,800 few months. I remember just being like, no, 248 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 I was doing new things in Montreal at the time. 249 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,640 I was just trying to kind of like find myself out of skating 250 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,840 and I really didn't think it would be possible for me to get 251 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,280 a new partner, no matter who it was, whether it was Tim or 252 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,360 somebody else. I didn't think it would be 253 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,400 possible for me to get a new partner and get to the place I 254 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:17,120 wanted to or where I was with Adrian. 255 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,080 In my mind mind I was like, if I got a new partner like this is 256 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,880 going to be near to impossible. Like how, how is this even a 257 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,600 thing? Even though we both myself and I 258 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,640 know Tim as well, we both left the Olympics with like this 259 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,760 whole new confidence and fire in US. 260 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,600 And at that time I was like, I don't want something that's too 261 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,480 challenging right now. I need a minute. 262 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,360 So yeah, I did say no at first. But then Tim was in Montreal, I 263 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:47,360 was doing, I stepped in for some coaching in Montreal and I was 264 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:53,040 on the ice and Tim had a tryout in Montreal, a couple of 265 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,960 tryouts. Long story short, one of them 266 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:00,120 that I actually helped set up, there was a girl that I knew of 267 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,120 and suggested it's the coaches that Tim has a tryout with her 268 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,240 because I knew he was looking for a partner to reach out to 269 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,760 me. So he had these tryouts with 270 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,120 these girls and then the coaches invited me over for dinner one 271 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,200 night and after 2 bottles of wine they sat me down and said 272 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,120 we think you need to have a tryout with Tim. 273 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,080 And I was like what? Long story short, the reason why 274 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,760 it came such a shock this question is because a week prior 275 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,800 I signed my dancing and ice contract and they knew I'd sign 276 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,360 my dancing and ice contract because I asked them if they 277 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,080 thought it was a good idea if I do it. 278 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,360 They were, I asked like Marie France because they did battle 279 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,280 of the blades as well. It's like, is there something 280 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,800 I'll enjoy? And Marie France was like, 281 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,360 you'll love it. She's like, even if you choose 282 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 to come back to the the sport or not, she said it will help you 283 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,640 grow as a person and as a skater and athlete. 284 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,880 So I took her advice and I signed that contract. 285 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,960 But then a week later they're telling me I need to have a try 286 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:01,080 out with Tim Deke. And I'm like, but they said, I 287 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,520 know they, they briefly said like, I know you signed your 288 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,000 contract, but we think you just need to have this try out just 289 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,360 to see if this is something that you want. 290 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,000 Because if you do want to continue, this is your only 291 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,080 option. Like this is the time. 292 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,440 I'm like, OK, so I had a tryout and we had a tryout. 293 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,880 I text him and said like, hey, are you free tomorrow by any 294 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,360 chance for a tryout? So I can't imagine what his 295 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,000 reaction was. Yeah, like just kidding. 296 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:30,280 Yeah, my plan was kind of out because obviously I knew, like I 297 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,040 said before, OK, Olivia's still there. 298 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,520 She's not not skating at the moment, but she's still there. 299 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,480 So there might be still a slightly small chance. 300 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,720 So, yeah. And then I got that text to the 301 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,880 beginning of the week or something. 302 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,840 And then we skated like two or three days and then, yeah, 303 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,840 decided to skate together and go on a journey together. 304 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Yeah, but I was like, hey, yeah, let's do this, let's commit to 305 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,280 this. But can you wait eight months? 306 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,120 I'm ATV thing I need to do. I'm like, I have an obligation 307 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,359 in the UK on a reality TV show. We tried to coordinate with him 308 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,000 coming to the UK every so often, but I, my, I was packed. 309 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,440 Like my schedule was busier than I expected, but I'm like going 310 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,920 into this TV show like, hey, guys, I'm doing this, but I'm 311 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,440 also, I have a new partner waiting for me and I'm trying to 312 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,280 train to eventually go to the Olympics again. 313 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,160 They didn't care. So my schedule was packed, jam 314 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,120 packed, and then as soon as dancing I send it, I was like, 315 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,480 OK, I need a quick break and then we'll get straight to it. 316 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,880 And it wasn't even like you were. 317 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,040 You were like eliminated in the first show. 318 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,200 It was like you went all the way and won it. 319 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,560 So you had to do the whole thing. 320 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,720 Yeah, I was like, if I get eliminated, I'll have so much 321 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,680 more time. It'll be so different. 322 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,160 Yeah, no, from like halfway through the show, I was like, 323 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,400 hey, we might be able to win this. 324 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,800 So I need to like commit now. Tim, you're on pause. 325 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,760 It's like my other skating partner really needs the work. 326 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,200 And Tim, I actually brought Tim in. 327 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,040 Tim came to the UK and like helped me with Nile a little bit 328 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,640 and stuff. So it became like a group 329 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,200 project. That was also then a cool start 330 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,400 Tower competitive career as well, together sharing new 331 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,640 experiences that we didn't even expect. 332 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,520 Right. So you all started in 2023 in 333 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,840 the fall and and you've had three seasons together. 334 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:24,360 Now if you look back, you know at the 1st first half season was 335 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,760 was challenging, right? You all had not that much time 336 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,720 to train together. You were still trying to figure 337 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,680 out how to skate with each other and there were there were some 338 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,400 starts and stops. And if you look back at that 339 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,720 time, what was the maybe the most challenging thing that you 340 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,680 all had to kind of deal with and how did you go about getting 341 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,720 there for? Me there's like the season star. 342 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,840 Overall, we were both pretty like confident in what we were 343 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,800 doing, our material and the way with the way things were 344 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,960 feeling. It wasn't until we start 345 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:04,200 competing that the the outcome of what we were putting out 346 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,040 there was not what we expected. So for example, the scores and 347 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,440 the placement. We were pretty content though 348 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,800 regardless because we were a brand new team. 349 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600 We were out there competing for the first time. 350 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,800 So we knew it was going to be difficult and we knew we would 351 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,440 have to start from the bottom and then we weren't complaining 352 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,160 because we got 2 Grand Prixs as a brand new team. 353 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,440 So that's like a pretty good and big step. 354 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,080 So we were just kind of like rolling with the punches in what 355 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,640 was happening in that moment. I don't think it was until the 356 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:46,360 World Championships where I think the both of us kind of hit 357 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,480 a position of a Lord. This isn't going well. 358 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,120 Do do we want, how do we go about this and do we want to 359 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:59,600 figure this out and go about this because this is 360 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,200 challenging. And it's also not just 361 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,160 challenging like physically and mentally. 362 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,120 It was also kind of like breaking that confidence that we 363 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,800 had just got from the Olympic Games 2022. 364 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 It felt like, you know, we were we just had a really big kind. 365 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Now we're like at rock bottom. And we had that moment of the 366 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,000 World Championships where we finished 20th. 367 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:30,360 We had a decent. 19th, 19th. 19th OK thank you fact checks. 368 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:34,640 I love that we had, we didn't have a terrible skate, we just 369 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,360 didn't score well. And also our programs, our free 370 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:41,600 dance especially was just not being well perceived. 371 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,680 And we know what material means in ice dance. 372 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,160 And as a new team, finding anything that worked for us was 373 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,440 just challenging because we didn't know what our styles 374 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,560 were. We didn't know what would work 375 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,080 for the both of us. And we just chose our music 376 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,240 based on what we felt was right for us. 377 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,040 So yeah, after World championships, it took us some 378 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:08,840 time to re align with, OK, why are we doing this and do we want 379 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,280 to go through with this regardless of the results? 380 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,480 And if we do, how are we going to do that? 381 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,560 So, yeah, we realigned after the World Championships and just, we 382 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,440 decided, like, look, we partnered up because we had 383 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,040 something left in us that we weren't ready to give up on. 384 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,120 We both wanted our careers to end on our terms. 385 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,320 And also like while we're still young, healthy and have the 386 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,840 opportunity to be doing this sport at such a high level in 387 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,480 front of thousands and thousands of people each time, Like why 388 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,280 wouldn't we take this opportunity? 389 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:47,680 We just had to kind of align, like, OK, what's the risk reward 390 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 of it? Like if it makes us feel good, 391 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,680 great. But if it's like a result based 392 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,520 thing, then we're probably never going to be pleased sort of 393 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,400 deal. But then. 394 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Little did we know, changing that perspective for us actually 395 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,400 equalled out to results. And that's still and to this 396 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,560 still now to this day, our mentality because having the 397 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,640 expectations of results and numbers and anything like that, 398 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,760 it's like we're always going to be disappointed in some ways. 399 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,080 We're still learning. You know, we're only human. 400 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,200 We're also athletes and very competitive athletes. 401 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,440 So we want to succeed, but we have to catch ourselves in 402 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,080 reminding us like, OK, why are we doing this? 403 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:32,640 And it's really helped us and it's helped our trajectory in 404 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,560 the past two seasons. And I would do believe in we've 405 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,640 spoke quite often. Like, we do believe we needed 406 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,680 that first season together to like, you know, kick us back 407 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,600 into shape because we came from this high from the Olympic Game 408 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,960 2022 with all this confidence. And like, like, I can do this, 409 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:50,880 like just partnered up with someone else. 410 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,360 That's another Olympian. Sure, we needed to be kicked 411 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:57,520 down a few notches in order to be where we are today, and it's 412 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:03,480 only helped us skate with, I'd say, more gratitude than 413 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,160 anything else. Well, and and you've also now 414 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,000 become known as the ones with the innovative moves too. 415 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,080 I mean, like the that really started in that second season 416 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,720 together. And I think a lot of people will 417 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,560 remember the the choreographed lifts and you know, it was. 418 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,200 A competition as well. From the from from the first 419 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,280 competition as well where it didn't work, but it tell me 420 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,240 about that right. That's something that really has 421 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,520 separated you from other teams. And you know how you you all 422 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,040 know how deep the ice dance fields are. 423 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,960 And for you to be able to say like, hey, I, I've made a mark 424 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,480 on the sport with the things that we do like, was that a 425 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,240 conscious decision? And how do you think about that 426 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,240 when you're choreographing new material? 427 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,240 But it was for me, the first moment where I was like, oh, 428 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,720 what is going to happen from this point on was when Roman put 429 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,440 us in the beginning pose of our Doom 1 program into like a 430 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,040 thought of ball or he called it at that point like the ball. 431 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,800 And I was like, OK, what's going to happen? 432 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,720 Because there was something so different. 433 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:26,560 I never had the position of and the style where it went from 434 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,400 there. How he unwind this position with 435 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,240 us together. That's when I thought like, OK, 436 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,360 this can be something really, really special. 437 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,960 And then it was when we started working on the elements and the 438 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,200 choreograph and choreographic elements where whenever we did 439 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,320 it, I was like, OK, no one else did this stuff before. 440 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,400 This is going to be so unique and so special. 441 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,680 So we knew that like when when it came to the choreography and 442 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,360 like skating the program, but what we also me personally, what 443 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,160 I also felt was OK, the first run through of the doing 1 444 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,840 program, I'm like, OK, we need to put in a lot of work here 445 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,920 because it was very, very difficult to perform those moves 446 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,240 in a full, full program. I mean anytime. 447 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,800 But doing this like doing a part with one lift is another thing 448 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,360 than doing a formula program of those lifts and elements. 449 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,480 And then and yeah, starting that season was our Doom Doom 1 450 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,120 program, of course didn't didn't went really well in the first 451 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:35,080 competition. But then going back for from it, 452 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,200 going back to training, Patrice asked us or asked me. 453 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,600 OK, do you still want to do this choreography lift or do we need 454 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,440 to change it? And I did it again and there was 455 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,400 like a slight movement again in the practice and he went into 456 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,080 the direction that we have to change it. 457 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,720 But I was like, no, this is the most unique lift figure skating 458 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,120 has kind of seen so far in a choreographic based element. 459 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,680 I really want to make this work. So we did it kind of over and 460 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,600 over. And that's what we really did 461 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,840 throughout the season. We, we really worked on our 462 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,920 consistency in practice and on the elements especially. 463 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,360 And that's what also took us to the point where we are now, 464 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,600 like, I mean, we call it the fast track. 465 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Like other couples have a full circle full for Four Seasons of 466 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,120 preparing. We had like 3, three seasons as 467 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,120 a new couple together. So we had to go on a fast track, 468 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,680 but really going in this training consistency and going 469 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,360 with those special kind of elements really brought us to 470 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:42,640 the point where we are now. I think we can really say that 471 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,920 we brought a new level of figure skating and ice stands to our 472 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,560 sport, which skating has never seen before. 473 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,040 So that's that's pretty special for sure. 474 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,760 I mean, using the choreographic elements as they were intended 475 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,120 to be, which is creativity, right? 476 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,000 Like that's, that's the whole, that's the whole thing about 477 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,040 introducing those elements. Finding unique things is just so 478 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:12,040 difficult nowadays in the world of art and dance man. 479 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040 Everyone's everyone's algorithm in the summer is probably linked 480 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,560 up to the same things, the same off ice dancers doing lifts and 481 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,240 I was trying to replicate them on the ice. 482 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,320 Like it's even the same with music. 483 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,480 Like there's always one song that'll show up that might trend 484 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,240 and then somebody uses it and then you have 5 people using it. 485 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,080 It's hard to be unique in the world of ice stands, especially 486 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,680 without being too far out-of-the-box as well. 487 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,240 Because you have the classic ice stands and then you have the 488 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,560 really, really, really far out-of-the-box ice stands. 489 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040 And like, I like to stand out as a person. 490 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800 Tim likes to stand out as a person. 491 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,720 We both like acting and playing roles, so it just came very 492 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,280 natural for us to play like the characters in Dune. 493 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,080 But when, like Tim was saying, Roman was coming up with the 494 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600 elements in the choreography, I was like, this is really fucking 495 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,920 weird. This is weird. 496 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:10,240 But from what we'd experienced in our first season together and 497 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,840 the downfall of worlds, I was like, I'm open to anything at 498 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,680 this point. I was like, let's just roll of 499 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,280 it. Let's just have fun with it. 500 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,960 And because of that, we were able to come up with just a very 501 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,840 intricate, unique, weird program that fit Dune. 502 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,040 And a fun fact that not many people know is romance 503 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,400 icographer of Dune 1 and Dune 2 and he has never seen the 504 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,400 movies. Never. 505 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,240 Not once. And he will not watch the 506 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,320 movies. We asked him the other day, 507 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,480 would you watch the new one? He's like, no, probably not we. 508 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,400 Got at this point to be. Honest, yeah. 509 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,280 He think he thinks it's better that way because he doesn't have 510 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,360 like a closed vision on what it needs to be and what it looks 511 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,400 like. So in the choreography, 512 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,400 especially June 1, some moments of that program Tim and I 513 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,640 brought to the choreography because we're like, hey, there's 514 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,120 this thing called sand walking in the movie. 515 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 He's like, what? And we showed him it and he's 516 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680 like, OK, you add that in there somewhere. 517 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,320 So like those moments in the choreography and the sound 518 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,280 effects of the sand like we added because we had watch the 519 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760 movie and dissect it, dissected it. 520 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280 And also Patch, I remember his training at one point and he's 521 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400 like, there's no sand walking movements in your choreography. 522 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,160 We're like, we know Roman hasn't seen the movie. 523 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,200 He thinks there's camels in the movie. 524 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,520 So, so that's also a funny back story to it that he's created 525 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,840 these two like his well now viral programs that are going to 526 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,320 go down in history based on a award-winning movie that he has 527 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,320 still never seen. I think it's funny though. 528 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,440 The interesting thing? About. 529 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Yeah, the, the interesting thing about that is that without 530 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,400 seeing the actual material and the the the plot of the whole 531 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760 thing, you don't make it so liberal. 532 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,560 You don't end up being like, oh, you're Paula Treaties or you're, 533 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,080 you know, the other person. I can't remember, you know, like 534 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,160 the, the like it's, it's the, the, the choreography really is 535 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,280 the, the, the feel and the atmosphere of the music. 536 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Plus the two of you bring the story in because you have seen 537 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,960 the movie, the movies and, and you're able to then then tell 538 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,560 your own story with the choreography that has already 539 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,440 been put in. So. 540 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,680 Yeah, so we had like a full team in a way because Roman was fully 541 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120 basing the choreography off of the music and the feeling from 542 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,040 the music. And then we were able to bring 543 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,160 our storyline into it. And that's also the way our 544 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040 school here works in Montreal. We have our coaches and 545 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,560 choreographers, the technical side coaches, Roman being a 546 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800 choreographer. But then we work with other 547 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,600 people, multiple people, other coaches that I am that help us 548 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,920 develop the story of the program. 549 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,840 It's not just Roman and it's not just Patch and it's not just 550 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Marie. There's a an army of people that 551 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,120 we work with still to this day on developing the story and the 552 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,120 characters of all of our programs. 553 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,040 So yeah, it took a village and everybody got invested. 554 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,280 Like everybody was bringing their own kind of vision into 555 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,840 it. And it just, it helped us 556 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,440 develop the layers of what our program programs have. 557 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,080 Well, I, I know the two of you have things to do and I, I want 558 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000 to make sure that you all get to do the things that you need to 559 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,760 do. But world's coming up in a 560 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,360 couple weeks where two Sundays before we head to Prague. 561 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,320 So what are you thinking about for that competition? 562 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,440 You know, how are you entering this, your third worlds 563 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,480 together, right to, you know, get to where you want to get to 564 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,120 by the end of the season? Where's your head? 565 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880 For us, it's like each competition, first of all, it's 566 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,680 like a new competition. People like to say like, yeah, 567 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,240 the world's after the Olympics, you know, like something can 568 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,360 happen there, like the doors are open or stuff like this. 569 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,840 But we really like to go and every competition as a new 570 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,000 competition, obviously. And at Gualts, like every other 571 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,480 competition, we want to create a moment on the ice, which we have 572 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,200 done so far this season pretty well, especially with our doing 573 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,760 program. We always want to create a 574 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,840 moment on the ice, which is memorable. 575 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,160 And then from this story and from that moment, what we create 576 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,600 out of the ice is like after first of all, the feeling after 577 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,680 when you're when you've created this moment, we both know it. 578 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,200 We look at each other and we were like, OK, yes, we, we just 579 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,680 did it again. And that's like the most 580 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,280 important for us to create this memorable moment and eat out 581 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,080 there together as one and then see what the results and stuff 582 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,400 make with that. But of course, try to try to 583 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,880 improve our season's best scores. 584 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,800 Definitely. But more important, and most 585 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,880 most important, is really this moment we create out there 586 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,280 together as a couple and the story we want to bring to the 587 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,360 crowd and then we will see what happens. 588 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,480 Have you figured out what is giving you the exclamation 589 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,040 point? I knew it's coming. 590 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,680 Oh, it's coming. I was going to say, and our goal 591 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,360 is to not get a an exclamation point in the car step. 592 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,880 Did you did you get the feedback? 593 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760 We haven't gotten the feedback yet from the games. 594 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,640 We know from past events, but for the games we haven't gotten 595 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,800 the feedback yet, unfortunately, so we're just training it to our 596 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,040 eye right now with a lot of camera work and being very 597 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,800 specific. Such a mystery. 598 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,920 Yeah, it was a shock to us because we didn't actually know 599 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560 we got the score and we were over the moon with our score 600 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400 when we signed the leader chair. For a while we didn't look at 601 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,360 the score sheet when we left because we were like, I don't 602 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,480 care. Like that was great, which is 603 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680 very rare for us. We usually like to look at our 604 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,800 levels and see didn't even bother. 605 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,560 We were just on such a high. It wasn't until we reunited with 606 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,760 our families upstairs in the stands where my mother told me I 607 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,120 probably you got an explanation point. 608 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:11,320 I was like. Huh. 609 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,679 And. Then I ran, ran to John Luke. 610 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,719 I was like, we got an exclamation point. 611 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719 He's like, yeah. And then we watched the video. 612 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,840 We couldn't figure it out. Tim and I saw red immediately. 613 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,000 And we were both just like this. We're for like a hot second. 614 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,679 Tim was more angry than I was 100%. 615 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,480 But we were both just like we felt. 616 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,400 We were so angry. Let's just say that. 617 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,280 But then we remembered we're at the Olympic Games. 618 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,719 We did just do really well. We're with our families. 619 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,120 Let's get a glass of wine and enjoy this moment. 620 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,639 We'll reevaluate another time, but yeah, we're we're training 621 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:51,040 very diligently right now with that. 622 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,480 Rumor has it that's changing as of next year. 623 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,280 So it's fingers crossed. The meantime, we'll. 624 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,320 Just be careful. Yeah, there's just sometimes 625 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,320 when you look at those things and you're like, really, you 626 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,440 got, did you get a, did you get a meter stick out to, to measure 627 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,240 whether you were two meters apart or two arm legs apart? 628 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:10,800 Like it's like, yeah, it, it, that kind of stuff kills me. 629 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,120 The the nitpicking of it for no reason at all other than to say 630 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440 like, gotcha, yeah. Yeah. 631 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,600 And it's it's like it's just so costly. 632 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,720 Yeah, for so of something it's like. 633 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,000 Three points. Yeah, so we were like, oh wow, 634 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,200 our heads are going, oh wow, we got one. 635 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,440 What do you get? 120, two, 123, the games, 123. 636 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,960 We were like, oh, we could have had a 125 freelance at the 637 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,600 Olympics. Yeah, So what could have? 638 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,480 1/22/96 So you could have had a 126 Yeah well you know what it's 639 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,800 a a new thing to to go for at the. 640 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,840 It's a new goal, Yeah, it's a new goal. 641 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,680 It keeps things interesting I guess. 642 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,640 Yeah, exactly. And anyway I have the pin from 643 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,840 you so. Yeah, I I feel partially 644 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440 responsible. For Oh no, no, no, we just, we 645 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,360 just ran with the trend. I know, I know. 646 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Well, Olivia, Tim, excited to see you in Prague and enjoy the 647 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:15,040 next two weeks of training and resetting as you go into your 648 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,360 final competition of the year. And you know, good luck with 649 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,760 everything and I'll see you there. 650 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,960 Thank you so much, Jackie. Bye bye.