Welcome to the Rocker Skating podcast.
It is a starry, starry episode. I had to do that.
Of course. Piper Gilles, Paul Poirier are
here with me. And we're what, in the middle
of, right, Like really smack dab between the Olympics and world
and so catching you all maybe a week and a half before you
leave. Actually, no.
Probably a week before you leave.
Yeah, yeah. How are you all doing?
We're we're good. We're good.
I think we're, we're excited that, you know, we only have a
week left before the World Championships.
I think we're we're eager to do it and kind of celebrate one
more time. And yeah, I think our bodies are
ready. Yeah, yeah.
I, I don't think my body is ready quite yet.
Paul, what, what's been, what have you been up to over the
past few weeks? But after that, amazing
Olympics. Well, today I'm doing my taxes,
so this is a nice little procrastinatory tool which I'm
really happy about. It's been good.
Speaking of which, I need I need to do my taxes too.
Yeah, Well, I mean, the hard thing is we're, you know, we go
straight from Worlds to Starzonice, Japan and then
straight to Starzonice, Canada. So kind of now is the last time
we're home for a good chunk of time.
So there's just like, and then, you know, we were gone for three
weeks during the Olympics. So there's like this very short
window to get a lot of like, administrative things done.
But yeah, I've just been trying amidst all the training and, you
know, making sure that we're taking care of ourselves because
obviously there's a big crash after the Olympics.
Just slowly trying to see my friends and family and celebrate
with them. There's lots of people that of
course weren't there in Milan. So just trying to do as much as
we can with our people while we're home.
I know, I think I saw a like a medal party for you the other
day. Is that was that a thing?
Some some, some friends threw a little dinner which was really
nice. And they made a cake with the
Olympic rings, which was really cute.
I wasn't expecting it. And then we realized, you know,
we only have one song for celebrations.
So they said like they started singing Happy Olympics to you
because when they brought the cake out, because it just seemed
weird to just bring a cake out without a song, which is really
funny. Wow, OK, Happy Olympics to you
is something that not many people can say.
They have been sung to them. Piper, what about you?
How? How are your last couple weeks?
They've been good. They've been good.
They've been kind of busy just doing like little media stuff
here and there. But yeah, I've just been nothing
too, too crazy other than battling the sickness that I
feel like a lot of people got out of the Olympic Games.
So yeah, my voice is finally returning and I don't know, life
is slowly returning back to normal, which is kind of nice.
It's been really nice to be home and kind of celebrate with our
coaches and our teammates and all of that.
Like Paul said, just catching up people with people we haven't
seen in a a few months. We've been kind of hibernating.
So I guess it'll be nice to, especially after worlds and what
stars are done to, to like fully decompress, have a giant
celebration with everybody. I think we're really looking
forward to that. Like, I mean, at least it's not
the norovirus that apparently was going around at the village.
Thank goodness. Which seems to be like, yeah.
Which seems to be like every Olympics is like a norovirus
breakout 'cause I. Mean there's a lot of people in
close quarters after traveling. It kind of it kind of makes
sense in a way. I think we were so even leading
up to the Olympics, we we didn't get sick all season and I mean
until after. But I think, you know, there is
some luck involved with that. But I think it does speak to the
care we put into babying ourselves before the games.
Yeah, it's like the the number of people I've seen at the
competitions leading up to the Olympics where they're sort of
like staying away from people or even like masking up, you know?
Yeah, remembrances of the Covic days.
Yeah. And it's like it, it doesn't
faze anybody anymore because we did that for a couple of years.
No, I think we learned our lesson a little bit on like
trying to avoid the plague in some way, yeah.
Totally. OK, Well, tell me about the
decision to worlds because I think a lot of folks, myself
included, and Paul, you and I had coffee literally after the
after your free dance. And I was like, are they going
so worlds, are they not? And I I never did ask you.
And then it and I realized, oh, you are.
Yeah, you didn't say and you didn't you didn't, you didn't
have any hints of it whatsoever. So I just like, I was like, OK,
but was that always in the plans or did you make the decision
after the Olympics to do one more competition?
You know, I think we didn't want to go into the Olympics with a
specific thought of mine, like this is the last skate of these
programs for the season. I think that's a lot of pressure
to put on the programs. There's already a lot of
pressure at the Olympics. So I think it was something that
we left quite open-ended going into the season and we just
said, let's just kind of proceed as if the season is running as
normal and we'll do worlds. And if we feel differently when
we get to the other side of the Olympics, then we can, you know,
have that conversation and reassess.
But, you know, we felt like the games were such a high pressure
environment and as much as we ended up performing feeling
fairly calm, you know, there's still, you know, a lot of weight
that goes into that event. And I think we wanted another
opportunity this season to just celebrate our skating a little
bit more. On the stakes feel.
It sounds funny to say where the stakes feel a little bit lower,
even though it's worlds and we'll have both of our coaches
there with us. So I think it'll be nice to to
share this event with like having both of them there, which
is not something we get to do very often.
Well, I mean, this is your third post Olympic world.
So so you know that the the sort of dialed dial down and dial
back up that that needs to happen.
Was there anything when you were discussing after the your
Olympics performances and we will talk about your Olympic
performances when you were discussing that, was there any
kind of like we really need to do this or was it like a hey,
let's keep going or was there ever like a thought about not
going? I mean, I think we, when we got
back from the Olympics, I think we kind of floated bulk options.
You know, I think we were both very content with our Olympic
performance and we were very content to like just leave it
there. But also like Paul said, the
Olympics is such a stressful event that you weren't really
thinking of anything else other than that.
So I think for us to to continue the season as normal and kind of
celebrate what we accomplished at the Olympic Games one more
time, I think ultimately ended up trumping that that decision
to go and I don't know, not leave it everything on the
Olympic ice. But we did float it, that's for
sure. I think it was a kind of a tough
decision because we really weren't sure like, you know,
where our bodies rested enough. Do we feel motivated enough to
do this one more time? Because again, like we know the
sacrifice that it takes to compete on the world stage.
So for us, I think ultimately we're like, well, we only have a
couple more weeks till we go to Japan.
We're going to have to be skating anyways.
Why not treat this as like almost a World Team trophy kind
of event and really just celebrate our skating?
We usually do skate while at those events because of the but
not the pressure, but just like we're happy to be there, we're
enjoying the process. So I think that's kind of what
led us to kind of make that decision for the World
Championships. It's like, why not?
It's funny because I you're not the first ones to tell me like
especially those who've gone to World Team Trophy that this sort
of feels a little bit World Team Trophy ish.
You know, it is a few weeks later.
It is like something where you had the really, really big
pressure cooker of that Olympics.
And I mean, I hopefully we all have a good time there.
You know, we we know what post Olympics worlds can be like.
Yeah. So this season you're a lot of
people got a chance to know you 2 better because you were all
over Netflix. I I literally I had Co workers,
friends, people I haven't talked to in years be like, have you
watched glitter and gold? And do you know Piper and Paul?
And I'm like no, but yes, I do. I do know them.
I I actually did did finally just watch it a couple weeks ago
or not a couple days ago. What was that like having that
spotlight on you for the Olympics?
And really, I mean, it wasn't like a normal documentary,
right? It was like a hey, where you
were Netflix and we're coming to like craft the story around
these three teams. What was that like?
I, I think it was actually quite an interesting experience.
I don't think we were ever at that point.
We're like, Oh my God, these guys cannot come today.
I, I can't stand the film crew, you know, like they were totally
opposite of what we expected. I think we were a little
hesitant when they approach this idea because we're like, what is
this going to look like? You know, in the moment when we
started filming at the World Championships in Boston, we met
the team and we're like, OK, like these guys know what
they're doing. There is like basically a women
run group. You know, they, they were never
overbearing. They were like, are you OK with
this? Like, you know, if there's
something you said, we won't use it.
Like they were super respectful. And I think they they really
wanted to tell our story to the best of the best of their
abilities and to really have everybody understand who we
were. I think we felt that.
And I think for us, yeah, it does come with a little bit of a
price of having that pressure, especially going into the
Olympic Games. Like the day we were leaving,
like they were releasing it. I remember I was, I was more
anxious for that, for like seeing people like a little bit
into our our personal lives than competing at the Olympic Games,
which is so, so bizarre. But I remember like being like,
do I watch it just so I know, no, I'm not going to watch it.
I like, like the whole time before we were leaving and then
people were like, I've watched, it's good, It's good.
You're great, Paul, and you like come across so well.
OK, I go to the Olympics. I don't need to watch this.
I'm going to be fine. But like, how strange is that?
We compete in front of thousands of people, but like, you know,
that's millions of people singing in your lives.
I don't know. It was a very unique, I think,
experience. And I think what a great
opportunity for the next generation of athletes to kind
of be like you're exposed to a broader audience.
No, I felt the same way. I think the two hardest bits
with the whole thing was going into the project, especially
because we started filming at Worlds and that was, you know,
at such a kind of high stakes event too.
That was our first time meeting the team.
And we didn't know what the process would be like or how the
energy would be or, you know, after worlds when, you know,
when we went into the Grand Prix season and we kind of knew what
our process looked like. And at that point, you know, the
crew is almost like family. They've come so many times to
the rink to to film us. We felt really comfortable.
And then as Piper said, with the with the documentary releasing
the day we were flying out to the game, I just kind of put my
like social media blinders on and I just said, I'm going to
I'm going to look as little as possible at things until, until
I'm done competing, which I'm grateful for.
And you know, I even had like a social media strategy with my
support site going into the Olympics on how to deal with one
with the documentary releasing. But just, you know, generally
with kind of the added social media attention around the
Olympics, I think that was like an 1 important part of the kind
of Olympics recipe. But I think we felt so respected
by the entire team and they just took such great care with our
story. And we would just, you know, as
I said, they really became family over the course of the
season. Have have either or both of you
watched it by now? I've not I.
Yeah. Sorry, Katie.
Yes, I watched the 1st and 2nd episode, but I only watched Paul
in our parts just cuz I kind of wanted to see.
And then I've heard so many people say the episode 3 is the
best episode. I can't watch it.
I don't know what it is. I like, I, I, I loved what they
were doing. I just, I lived it.
We lived it, you know, and I don't, I don't know if I, I need
to go back and watch my story or our story be told again.
But I think we're so grateful that, you know, people had the
opportunity to kind of see a little bit of like who Paul and
I are and what we represent as people.
But no, not maybe one day I'll be like, I'll just watch the
third episode. But I know a lot of has like the
Grand Prix Final in it. And I think it just brings up so
much stuff that I'm like, I lived it, let's move on, like
keep going forward. So yeah, I don't know.
The feedback I've gotten from people have been like, they just
seem like such cool down to earth people and that's been
resonating across the different populations of people that I
have talked to. Yay.
Good. Yeah, but the Olympics, right,
you all got to again be in the team event and then do the do
the the your individual event very close together.
And and that was different than what you had experienced before.
I think back in, back in Beijing, was there ever, this is
a a question that a lot of people were curious about, Was
there ever a thought of of you all being in medal contention at
the team event for you, the 2 of you to actually do the free
dance? It was, yeah, it was a long
discussion. I actually think in terms of
getting ready for the Olympics, it was one of the hardest parts
of the preparation because it's not, you know, it wasn't a
similar schedule to anything we've done before.
And it's not really anything that you can recreate.
You're never going to be doing 2 full competitions that even if
you do 2 events kind of weekends back-to-back, there's still, you
know, more time in between. And you can, you know, you can
run as many programs as you want at home.
It doesn't simulate the experience of competing at the
Olympics. So we, you know, we had to think
about it a lot on what we wanted to do.
And I think there was so many scenarios that were possible and
you know, we had to make a decision with incomplete
information because we didn't know how anyone else was going
to skate necessarily. I think in the end, we felt we
wanted to prioritize our energy going into the individual event,
really take care of ourselves. It was really tiring few days
and we felt actually quite tired after the rhythm dance and the
team event. So I think we were grateful for
the day off that we had event, you know, in the end planned for
ourselves. And I think too, we wanted to
have margarine Zach have the opportunity to skate in the team
event because, you know, these these things could go different
ways where can, you know, Canada was in contention.
And maybe if we had done the free, it might have made the
difference to get a medal or not.
And there's another scenario where everyone skates really
great and Canada gets a metal and, you know, another team or
another skater could have the opportunity to also be on that
team and get a medal. And so, you know, there was no
there was no perfect decision, no perfect scenario.
And we had to make the best decision for ourselves, along
with our coaches in Skip Canada with the information that we
had, which was incomplete. That was it was a tough
decision, though. I think the two of us, I was
like, we, we waited really till the last minute and like the IT
was funny because like, I think there was like a little bit of
guilt that like if we had lost, if we didn't do the free and if
we were in that, you know, like if we were a point away, how
like kind of a shame that would have been to lose a medal for
our teammates and and this and that.
But, you know, we were so we were encouraged again by state
Canada to do the best decision for us.
And that was kind of what we had just had to kind of remind
ourselves. It's like at the end of the day,
you got to do what's best for you.
And that's what we did. It was, it was a tough decision.
It was really, again, more stressful than competing making
that decision. You know, Paul and I were just
like, Oh my gosh, what do we do? What do we do?
But, you know, I think we made the right call for us.
And yeah, at the end of the day, we're so grateful that Marjorie
and Zach had the another opportunity to be able to do the
freelance and just kind of gain experience.
Yeah, and ultimately you can't, you can't predict the future,
right. And so you you have to make the
decision what the information that you have.
But then the individual event came.
And for me, two of your best skates maybe ever.
It's definitely the free dance. It was I, I, I, those who have
followed me on Twitter will know that I was probably crying
within a minute and 1/2 into that program.
I think as soon as the twizzles were coming on, I literally had
like media journalist, people like come up to me afterwards
and be like, you were really going through it, weren't you?
And I'm like, I'm like, yeah. And and it was it was one of
those things where like, I think the audience felt it.
Everybody like whether they were in figure skating or not, felt a
kind of different energy from you and that free dance.
If you take us back to that program, what was it about that
program that made it so special for both everybody who's watched
it, right and for the two of you?
It's so interesting. It's like with Vincent, he was a
starving artist, you know, he was just trying to succeed.
And I think for us, like we, we connected to that and like that
we, we've been through it over the years.
Like we, we pushed and pushed and tried to like push the sport
in a different direction. And maybe they weren't ready for
it. And I think in that moment, we
were ready for it. Like we were ready for people to
accept us for who we were and we felt it.
And I think like we just kind of let the program come to us and
we didn't we enforce it like we just went out and did a program
like we did at home. And that's exactly what we said
to ourselves backstage. Like let's just run a program
like we do at home and almost left like the universe accept
who we were. And I think like just as the
momentum of the program started, I think people could just almost
feel the relief of that we're doing it because I feel like
they wanted it for us. Like that relief just started to
lift and we just started to state with that and abandonment.
And by the time we ended that, it was like, I think everybody
knew like we did, We knew they knew that like we did it.
And I think, I don't know, those are just one of those moments
that you're going to remember. And I hope people remember
because like they felt like they were a part of that, that
release of, of I guess art and and struggle and believing in
yourself like that would that it's possible.
I think that's like, for me, What what stands out for in a
moment like that? Yeah, you talk about freedom,
right? And, and I think one of the
things that I remember so much about that program, and I talked
about this a bit, is the 2 of you tend to be a.
There are times when you're a little bit more intellectual, a
little bit more insular and sort of when you're doing programs,
you're telling each each other the story and you're letting
people see you tell each other the story.
But there was something about that program where it felt like
you were really telling the story, like talking to the
audience, right? And, and I don't know if you
felt that or not while you were on the ice, but you, you fed off
the energy of that crowd And, and it, it became more and more
free. I don't think I've ever watched
a free dance where I'm like, yeah, everything's going to go
fine. Like I I just, I just believed
that it was going to be a great program without any sort of like
I wasn't like on the edge of my seat waiting to to see what
would happen, right. I was just like enjoying it.
What what how was that feeling? Was that was that the case for
you all? Yeah, it was the case, but it
but it is funny. You know our our coaches always
say to us when things are going really well, that's the time to
pay the most attention. It's very easy to get excited
when things are going well and, and in that excitement just kind
of lose your focus for a moment and, and that becomes something.
But I, I think we felt, as I said, I, I felt like things are
going to go well, but in a calm kind of way, not in a way where
I was already looking forward to the end when things had already
gone well. I don't, I don't know how to
explain it better than that. So I think there was really.
A powerful kind of a presence to it all.
But yeah, I, I really felt the actually just the entirety of
the games that the crowds were really amazing.
And I think, you know, I think that also allowed us to, as you
said, to tell them that story a little bit more because I, I
felt like the audience in Milan was just so receptive to all the
skaters in accepting what they had to offer and in encouraging
them and those kinds of things. And I felt during the entirety
of the games, what I really appreciated about the audience
was, you know, when people would make mistakes, they would really
get behind them and, and like, you know, kind of give them
energy to keep going. And, you know, so I think that
that definitely fed us as well. This season has been a roller
coaster in a lot of ways, especially on the front of
technical panels, calls like those types of things.
You got a pattern step for at the Olympics, which is which is
nice. But now that we're here and you
have the, the privilege of having the like, being able to
look back on the season, how would you think about the Grand
Prix and how that all sort of shook out in terms of, you know,
the, the, the, the some of the weirdness, if you will, that
happened with, with a lot of the scoring, especially in that like
first half at the Grand Prix. Well.
I think it was challenging in a lot of ways.
You know, we, we knew that trying to get on the Olympic
podium would be a very difficult task.
I think, you know, every athlete knows that even when you're
you're in sort of a contender position like we were.
So, you know, we definitely didn't take anything for granted
this season. I think in a lot of ways, you
know, we as athletes, we have to skate our best and we don't
necessarily have control over the scoring.
And when, you know, when we're disappointed with the results,
we can either, you know, dig ourselves into a hole or we can
look at it as an opportunity. And we had to keep choosing, you
know, each kind of looking at each set back as another
opportunity to get better. I think in a lot of ways, as
much as, you know, certain parts were hard.
And definitely we're very disappointed after the Grand
Prix Final. I think it did really force us
to be critical of ourselves and critical about what we could
still do better before we got to the Olympics.
And I think that really guided our training between the Grand
Prix Final and nationals, you know, so I think in a way it was
tough psychologically and emotionally.
But I think I said it gave us the direction we needed to
improve ourselves before the Olympics and make sure that
everything was as good as it needed to be.
I mean, even, you know, even in the rhythm dance and the team
event, our levels were not as good as they could have been.
And, you know, we, we, we agreed with that, you know, definitely
wasn't our best skate and our best performance.
And there were a few places where we were tight, especially
in the steps. And that was a, that was a good
wake up call. That was, you know, it kind of
really forced us to, to sharpen ourselves on those few days of
practice in between the team event and the individual event.
So, you know, we, we can always improve.
We can always be better and we always just have to treat
whatever feedback we get as an opportunity to to do that.
So you've been skating for a long time now?
Don't remind us. I know both of you were active
in the junior events in the mid 2000s, right?
Like you've really grown up in the Ijs and how how skating has
changed over the past 20 years. I know this is a big question,
but like, if you were to look back at the past 20 years of
things that you've done as ice dancers that that you loved or
didn't like, like what? What would you bring back?
What would you change? What would you think about as
something that you're like, yeah, we're definitely missing
this stuff in ice dance? I mean, I, I think for me, and I
think I speak for Paul as well, the importance of compulsory
dances. I think, you know, as much as
maybe the audience didn't enjoy it and maybe that's something
that they can just see as like a qualifying event, but that is
what really built amazing skaters.
It built an understanding of tracking.
It built like the, I guess the importance of leg line and the
understanding of how tight and close people can skate together.
I think a lot of the times you see like over the years, ice
stance has gotten farther and farther away from each other.
And what I, I think people really recognize that Paul and I
do so well is how tight we skate.
And because we skate so tight, it's, it's really hard.
It's harder than being side by side.
And I think it's, it's quite fun when we watch some of our
teammates trying to do the golden.
But it's, it's things like that, like Paul and I are like, we're
like, wow. Like I'm so grateful that I
cried by doing three turns on a circle, doing the European, like
stuff like that. Like, like I'm so grateful for,
for everything that Paul and I have learned and gone through
with compulsory dances to like make the skaters that we are
today because we have such an understanding of where bodies
need to be relative to each other.
And I think that's, that's missing.
So personally, I think it's like kind of incorporating a little
bit more of the individual skating between two people.
And that's that's for me, it's called compulsory dances.
Literally the the discussion in the next season is going to be
what do you mean three turns are hard?
You're so hard, like tucking your butt underneath and you're
like at a diagonal line in a hall is the most uncomfortable
thing anybody can imagine. But it looks so good to bring it
back. I, I think a lot of the same.
I think the kind of just compulsory dances, skating,
skating in hold, good tracking, those kinds of things I think
aren't being rewarded necessarily right now.
I think the. It's not, it's literally not in
the system, right? Like you don't, you don't see
that you you see that maybe in like a feature or a a bullet for
a GOE or whatever, right. But it's just so hidden in.
There, I mean, it's it's hard to quantify and I think that's part
of the challenge. I think generally where the Ijs
struggles and you know, this is something that we we all as a,
you know, community have to face all the time is because each
element and each thing is kind of scored individually.
Everything needs everything you do needs to be big.
Everything you do needs to be fast.
Everything you do needs to be impressed because those are
important bullets in order to get the jewelry.
So you know, your twizzling needs to be fast and your lips
need to be big and fast and cover a lot of ice and like all
your elements need to do that. And so it asked the skaters to
skate in one way the entire time, which is really big and
really fast. And I don't know necessarily
how, how to kind of, as I said, reward the, the the complexity
and, and the holds in those kind of more subtle things because
they're hard, they're tougher to isolate in a way that, you know,
something like big and impressive looks big and
impressive. So I think that's a challenge,
but I, you know, I think it's, you know, we kind of, we grew up
during that transition where, you know, we kind of started Ijs
when we were in junior. And so, you know, our, our
foundation of skating is different and we've seen the
sport kind of evolve and change over the last, you know, 20
years or so that we've had Ijs around.
And, you know, I think a lot of that change has been positive,
but you know, some of it has picked at some of the things
that we we see as foundational to our sport.
And there's there's a balance to strike.
And I don't necessarily know where it is, but I think that
that's the thing that we both miss the most.
I think, I mean, I think it's like an educational thing.
I think like Paul and I, you know, we, we watch skating like
way, way back, like YouTube is a huge tool for any, any young
child wanting to learn what the history of ice dance is.
You know, I think I'm an athlete.
It's like we do so much research to try to create something new
and interesting and whatever. But I also feel like that the,
the judges and the ISU should also be able to kind of do the
research of what made skating great and kind of compare where
ice dance is today. And I don't know if it's
educating the new generation of judges that are coming in and
saying this is the type of stuff that should be rewarded.
This is the type of stuff where we're at.
How can we combine the two and create both?
Because both create value. But it I think both sides have
to do enough education to be able to figure out what's going
to be the best thing moving forward.
And I think, yeah, we should all both be accountable athletes.
And you know ISU and the judges and tech panel, you know what
should be next. It's it's an evolving thing and
we never really know where the, the balance really is.
So I'm sure it'll, you know, there's been a lot of
conversations over the past four years and I'm sure it'll swing
again. Yeah.
That's how it goes. I mean, I think that's the
challenge is, you know, we're trying to quantify a lot of
things that are you can't quantify and, you know, and we
don't want to dictate and define everything because everyone,
everyone will look the same. But if everything is vague,
then, you know, you know, we have no goals and we have no
guidelines. And, you know, it's a tough,
it's a such a tough balance to strike.
Yeah, yeah. For sure well, you, there's
there's plenty for you to do Paul.
You, you got taxes to finish Piper.
You you need to get some more rest and and.
And recover. We're we were talking about
worlds and thereafter, which is lots of stuff.
What? What is happening after Worlds
for you all? Well, I think right right away
Paul and I are tripping on tour with Stars on Ice Japan.
So we're heading right from basically the banquet, you know,
the next morning straight to Japan, starting rehearsals in
Osaka. I'm surprised they don't have
just like a charter flight for all of you to just go over there
because like, there's so many of you heading over there.
Yeah. And then we we come home and
then we do the same thing with Stars on Ice Canada.
And then I don't really know what's next.
I think for us like a well deserved break just to recover
the body and the mind. But I think Paul and I are
excited to see what's next for us.
Like we're excited to say yes to a lot of different
opportunities. But you know, we aren't sure
what the next opportunities are yet.
But I don't know. We're we're yes kind of people.
Like we don't usually say no often.
So throw whatever you have at us.
We say us to everything, sometimes to a detriment.
I'm glad. I'm glad you said yes to this
interview. It's great.
No. Problem.
Any any hints as to any new exhibition programs that you're
working on? We're working on them.
We're. Working on.
Them. That's it.
That's as much of A hint I'm as I'm going to get.
You know, I think we're just like exploring and what like
interesting movement that Paul and I are, you know, interested
in the in the moment. I think that's what kind of has
fueled us over the years is that whatever inspires us, we're just
going to go for it and, you know, hope people enjoy, you
know, the, the movement and the ideas that we're trying to
portray. Is there a chance we'll see new
stuff in the exhibition gala at Worlds?
Are you saving it for Stars on Ice?
Last year, we debuted the new exhibition at Worlds with not a
lot of practice. So I, I think we'll, you know,
you know, everything's kind of coming together, but, you know,
it's a matter of being comfortable.
The gal was already quite hard the day after you finished
competing. And, you know, we won't have a,
we won't have practiced it for the whole week with the new
number. So we'll we'll see how it goes.
Ask us Friday. I will.
I will ask you again when we're in Prague.
All right. Well, Piper Gillis, Paul
Poirier, thank you so much for joining me today.
I'm excited to see you in a week's time really, and happy
preparation in the last week before Worlds.