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Mold is smart. 
It's like the cancer of the 

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home. 
What if the reason your health 

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protocols aren't working has 
nothing to do with your diet, 

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supplements, exercise or 
discipline? 

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It's not the mold underneath the
sink that's making you sick, 

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it's in the mold spores coming 
off and that's getting into the 

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environment. 
You start spraying bleach on, 

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it's going to piss it off and 
release mycotoxin. 

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Ryan Blazer is a building 
biologist and environmental 

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testing expert who helps 
families uncover the hidden 

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stressors in their homes. 
We're diving into how poor air 

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quality Emfs and indoor lighting
can quietly keep your nervous 

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system stuck in survival mode. 
So. 

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Anybody that says EMF is not 
dangerous just doesn't 

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understand. 
Some of the biggest disruptors 

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aren't dramatic or obvious. 
They're everyday features of 

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modern homes that almost 
everyone overlooks. 

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They'll go in their house and 
they have Bluetooth speakers and

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they have baby monitors and 
they're not thinking about those

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devices. 
Once you start to see your home 

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differently, you can't Unsee it.
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OK, without further ado, let's 

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get back into it. 
Ryan, welcome to Grounded 

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Wellness. 
Thanks for making the trip out 

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to the farm. 
So many people struggle with 

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healing and they're following 
strict diets and supplement 

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protocols but still aren't 
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Could their home environment 
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Yes, I can. 
The environment that we put our 

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bodies in can play a big role. 
I like to think of our home as 

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like our second set of skin. 
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inside of our body, but then we 
have the environment of our 

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house. 
And the things that we bring 

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into our house can get our its 
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And we spend up to 90% of our 
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So it's really important to look
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biological system and really 
give us some attention. 

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When you test a home, you are 
testing for a lot of different 

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things. 
You actually tested our home 

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almost four years ago now. 
I was pregnant with our third 

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child at the time and now he's a
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So I think it was about four 
years ago and we've worked with 

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you since on a lot of different 
things, but you did a lot and 

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we, we were talking for a really
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You were at our house really 
late because we had so many 

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questions for you and we covered
a lot. 

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But I want to, I want to camp 
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mold is something that is a big 
issue. 

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We haven't discussed it a whole 
lot in this podcast before. 

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We've talked about Emfs, we've 
talked about lighting, but mold 

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is a big topic. 
It can be really confusing for 

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people. 
Why is mold a problem? 

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Like for anyone who isn't even 
familiar with with why mold 

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could cause issues for people, 
where does it come from and 

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what's the issue with it? 
Yeah. 

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So mold is on our planet to 
break things down South. 

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Its job is to decompose things 
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breaking down things on the 
ground. 

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Right now. 
The problem is when it gets in 

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our house and starts eating our 
house, it's like the cancer of 

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the home. 
And when mold is growing and 

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reproducing, it's releasing 
mycotoxins and other harmful 

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substances that are poisonous to
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So, so it gets trapped inside 
the home, it gets on our couch 

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and our bed and we breathe this 
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And it's, that's just like a 
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It's poisonous to us. 
So it can be really harmful also

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depend on what substance the 
mold is eating. 

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It can also be more toxic 
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If it's eating like building 
material that has chemicals and 

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toxins in it, it's going to 
digest those and, and release 

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those out into the air. 
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And some people are just simply 
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stand it. 
But just in general, mold is can

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be very toxic to people. 
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So there's two different kinds. 
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there's going to be more of the 
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That's the respiratory issues 
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cough. 
It just seems it won't go away. 

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Cold type symptoms. 
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and you don't realize, I don't 
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mold triggering that. 
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is more dangerous is from the 
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just straight poison for the 
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So anything that you have a weak
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your symptoms are going to start
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So it could be a whole range of 
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irritability to intestinal 
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food down. 
It's just kind of whatever the 

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weakest link is in your body. 
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So wherever maybe you're more 
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what's going to, that's what 
you're going to feel first. 

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From mold, you're going to start
seeing that first. 

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Yeah, have you ever seen mold 
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Oh yeah, absolutely. 
Especially if you're more 

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allergic to it and we can see a 
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Like what does that look like 
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Like skin rashes or if you have 
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Those are really the two big 
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Or like if you're just kind of 
itchy on your skin, those are 

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all symptoms. 
I've heard a lot of people say, 

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well, my house was tested for 
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they did the home home home 
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And so I think we're good. 
We don't have a mold issue. 

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Can you explain why that test 
isn't necessarily adequate to 

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properly test for mold? 
Yeah. 

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So there's lots of different 
ways to test for mold, just kind

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of like when you're going to the
doctor, there's lots of 

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different ways to determine if 
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And the basic way that most mold
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sample. 
So they'll set up a little 

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equipment in the middle of your 
room and they'll collect air for

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5 minutes. 
And they take that and look at 

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under a microscope in the lab 
and say, do we have an abnormal 

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amount of mold spores that are 
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And nine times out of 10, it's 
not going to pick up mold that's

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behind the counter in the crawl 
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It has to be active in the air 
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And so we can get a lot of false
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it's the easiest and cheapest to
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So your run-of-the-mill average 
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house inspector that adds that 
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that test that was like 5 or 6 
other tests and then other ways 

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to find mold that a lot of those
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into. 
So you're really missing a small

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piece of the picture with that. 
And some of the some types of 

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molds can only release spores 
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Like certain times of the day 
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Yeah. 
So mold is smart, and mold 

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releases the spores when it's 
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So it's kind of like the trees 
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the seeds and that's how it 
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So it's not necessarily doing it
all the time, but also when it 

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feels like it's under attack, 
that's when it released the 

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mycotoxins. 
And there's some really 

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interesting studies about how 
Wi-Fi and EMF and some of these 

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things can trigger the mold to 
release some of these toxins 

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because it feels like it's under
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Wow. 
OK. 

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So what I'm hearing you say is 
if your home is more toxic, has 

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like maybe a higher chemical 
load, or if you have a lot of 

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Emfs in your home, you can have 
the same level of mold in a home

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that has all of those things or 
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things. 
But the mold can be more harmful

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if you're mixing in the Emfs and
the chemicals. 

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Right, exactly. 
And if you have multiple species

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of mold, they'll compete with 
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territory, like because if you 
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it's it's strain is is not 
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But let's say you bring in 
Cladosporium, a different type, 

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and that mold starts to come to 
the territory and it senses 

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that. 
Then it releases all its 

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mycotoxins to kill off that 
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They're like, this is my 
territory, don't take this over.

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Mold is so confusing. 
There's so much to it. 

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Like I remember when we had our 
mold issue, which we'll talk 

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about a little bit, I was just 
like trying to understand it and

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figure it out and it's 
overwhelming. 

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It's and there's so many 
different types, right? 

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Like how many different types of
mold are? 

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There, I mean, there's thousands
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thousands of species of animals,
and some are really dangerous 

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and some are not harmful at all.
What's the worst kind? 

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So Stachybotris and ketomium, 
that's what's considered black 

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mold, the term for that. 
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But we have like blue cheese and
penicillin where it can be 

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helpful for us and it's good and
it's not harmful at all. 

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So it just kind of depends on 
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It really matters. 
So when you test for mold in a 

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home, what types of tests are 
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Really the biggest one is 
sitting down with the client and

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going through the history of the
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Let's talk about all the water 
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the toilet that overspilled from
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or whatever. 
Anything that we have a water 

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vent in the home because mold 
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Without water, mold's not going 
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And so we're looking for the 
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So that's really the first 
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Then testing is really used to 
confirm a hypothesis. 

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So we're going through the 
house, we have a leak over here,

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we're seeing some water damage. 
The the drywall's bowing out a 

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little bit, OK. 
We have a high probability for 

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mold. 
So in this area, we're going to 

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do some swab testing or we can 
drill a hole in the wall and we 

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can pull air from that cavity 
sample to verify do we have mold

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in this area or not? 
So we're not really using the 

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test, just come in and say, is 
there a mold problem? 

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We're going out and 
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it. 
And we're using thermal imaging 

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camera. 
We're using moisture meters and 

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we're looking for the water 
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When we find it, then we verify 
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So it's kind of the reverse. 
What's the most surprising place

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you've ever found mold in a 
home? 

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I mean, mold can be anywhere, 
but really some of the like in 

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the washing machine is one that 
a lot of people, if there's a 

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lot of mold in there, people 
just aren't thinking about that 

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in the disposal. 
Is it the washing machines like 

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not the top load one but the 
front load? 

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One front loaders. 
Yeah, the front loaders. 

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Are. 
Why is that? 

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Why are those so much worse? 
Because the water doesn't get a 

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chance to air out and it's the 
ring is airtight. 

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So when you close the door, it's
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More like a top loader, yeah. 
It's more it will still air out 

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even with the doors, even with 
the because. 

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It's not airtight. 
It's not going to be as quick, 

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But yeah. 
And then that rubber seal always

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collects a bunch of gunk in 
there and then moisture and it 

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stays in there and gets wet. 
It can be pretty nasty. 

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So do you even recommend those 
for people or would you rather 

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that no one use those types of 
washers? 

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If you're going to get a front 
loader, you have to be more 

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conscious of the maintenance. 
You have to leave the door open.

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I would wipe that out every 
time. 

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And a lot of people just aren't 
going to do that stuff. 

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And so I just recommend using a 
top loader. 

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We have this little at the house
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It's like a magnet thing and it 
creates a, it's like a, a rubber

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thing and it creates A barrier 
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the door so it can't close. 
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closed is when we're doing 
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like you just, you can't close 
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I like that. 
We like magnetize it and then we

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take it off and we're not using 
it or when we are using it. 

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So if you build that kind of 

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stuff into it, yeah, it can be 
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What are the most common places 
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The toilet tank really is a big 
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A lot of people don't think 
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flush, the toilet water goes 
down and it displaces and it 

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brings air in. 
And if there's any mold spores 

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in your environment, it's going 
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dark, damp place and it's going 
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And when you're sitting on the 
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source of mold right there 
behind you, and that really 

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effects a lot of people, so. 
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the mold, but it's like 
attracting it if mold is already

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present in that area. 
Right. 

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If we have mold spores in the 
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the tank and then it sits there 
and it's dark and it's damp and 

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it's a great place for mold to 
have party. 

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Yeah. 
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how that's a good test that you 
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like at an Airbnb or something, 
or maybe if you're looking at a 

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home that you're interested in 
buying, like you can pull up the

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toilet tank and see if there's 
mold there. 

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And then there's most likely a 
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is. 
Right, right. 

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That's a really good test right 
off the bat to do it. 

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I'd say even better than air 
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just go lift your toilet tank up
and see. 

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And if we got mold going there, 
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bigger problem than that. 
Yeah. 

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That's a good one. 
When you find mold, what are the

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next steps that you encourage 
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it? 
So if it's just surface like in 

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the shower around the sink or 
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soap and water, wear some 
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issue or we have a leak involved
with it, then you really need to

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call in a professional to assess
it. 

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So really step one is have an 
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the sources of mold and then 
they can write up a remediation 

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protocol and then you can take 
that and go to remediation 

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company and which should be 
separate from the tester. 

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You don't ever want to have the 
same company doing that work. 

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Yeah, I remember you saying that
it's a conflict of interest. 

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It is. 
It's kind of like having your 

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kid grade their own paper. 
Yeah. 

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Like how do we do? 
Yeah. 

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Or like if it's, if it's a mold 
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that's your primary source of 
income, a lot of times they'll 

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offer inspections for free, 
which is basically just a 

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salesperson in your house trying
to get you to do the work. 

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So obviously they're going to be
more motivated to find a problem

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that isn't really there, and 
then you're spending more money 

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when you don't have to. 
Is there ever a situation in 

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which you would advise someone 
to use bleach on mold? 

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Not necessarily, unless like in 
the toilet tank, maybe if you've

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cleaned and and scrubbed it 
really good and remove it and 

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there's a little bit of staining
leftover, you can use it in that

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situation. 
But you never want to use mold 

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as the reason to kill it off 
because to eliminate mold, you 

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just take away the water. 
Taking away the water will kill 

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mold because it's an Organism 
just like us. 

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It needs food and water. 
But in a situation like your 

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shower or the toilet tank where 
there's always going to be water

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there, that situation just need 
to keep it really clean and your

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regular maintenance. 
But if there is staining 

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involved, then you can use 
bleach to take care of the 

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staining but not to remove the 
mold. 

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OK. 
So and it's going to kind of 

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like aggravate it and make it 
worse if you try to do that, 

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right? 
Yeah, mold is smart, and if you 

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start spraying bleach on, it's 
going to piss it off and release

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mycotoxin so it knows it's under
attack. 

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Yeah, it's not going to kill 
that way. 

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Yeah. 
If someone can't afford to 

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remediate, or if moving also 
isn't an option, is there 

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anything they can do to lessen 
the harmful effects of mold? 

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Yeah. 
So if you're in a climate like 

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right now, it's beautiful 
weather, if you can open up your

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doors and windows and get fresh 
air in and flush that out, 

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that's really the first step. 
If you can't do that, make sure 

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you got good air filtration in 
your house, good air filters so 

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that you're pulling those spores
and microtoxins out of the air 

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and capturing, but also really 
good deep clean on your house. 

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Just go through a nice clean and
behind the cabinets, behind your

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appliances, places where you 
wouldn't normally do your 

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regular wiping because that's 
where all of these toxins get 

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stored and then they can get 
aerosolized back into the air. 

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So fresh air, filter your air 
and keep your house really 

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clean. 
Yeah. 

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And the molds can kind of 
collect on the dust, right? 

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So if you're not doing those 
deep cleans, you're not ever 

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like really getting rid of it. 
How often would you recommend 

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doing a deep clean? 
Definitely yearly, you know, 

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like if you're going on the 
summer or winter vacation, then 

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that's when you hire the 
cleaning crew to come in and 

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just do a top to bottom. 
And I mean, take stuff out of 

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the cabinets, wipe everything 
down, put it back, remove your 

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refrigerator, wipe behind the 
fridge, behind the washing 

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machine, really good. 
A top to bottom wipe down on 

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every surface and do that once a
year. 

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Why is it that a family can all 
be living under the same roof 

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and maybe only one or two people
react to the mold and everyone 

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else seems to do perfectly fine 
just. 

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Because all of our bodies are 
different, we have different 

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genetics, different makeup, 
different dispositions. 

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And if one person may be really 
good at detoxing mold and the 

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next person isn't, so that 
person that's not good is is 

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building up kind of like our 
body is like the bucket and 

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we're filling up toxins and 
eventually it's going to 

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overflow. 
And the spout on the bottom is 

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our detox mechanism. 
So some people detox faster than

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others and some people's bucket 
overflows faster than others. 

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And so there's that. 
But also maybe in childhood 

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growing up like a husband and 
wife, maybe the wife grew up in 

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in the basement of grandma's 
home or whatever and it was 

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moldy and and they using toxic 
chemicals. 

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The other spouse wasn't. 
So they're coming into this home

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where one load is already much 
higher than the other. 

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So it doesn't take much more to 
overflow that bucket. 

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Yeah. 
And just just to recap for our 

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audience. 
So when you tested our home, the

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mold levels were pretty high. 
But at the time, none of us 

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really had symptoms. 
We were planning on remodeling 

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eventually. 
So we were just kind of sitting 

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tight for a little while, but 
then all of us kind of started 

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to feel a little off, like a 
little bit rundown. 

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I shouldn't say all of us, 
everyone except for my husband, 

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Jeff, we're feeling a little bit
off. 

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We're starting to get sick a 
little bit more frequently. 

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But my oldest daughter was 
getting bloody noses. 

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And so that was not normal for 
her. 

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I mean, it's not normal in 
general, but it was starting to 

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happen like a few times a week. 
And at that point we were like, 

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OK, this is this is affecting 
us, this is a problem and we've 

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got to get out. 
But it was just an interesting 

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symptom that came up just for 
her. 

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And when we got out of the home,
it stopped. 

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And then like I was telling you 
earlier, we ended up moving 

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back. 
We were living in some different

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places and a tent in our 
backyard. 

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We were traveling a lot while we
were remodeling our guest house 

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and waiting to move into that. 
And we had gotten back from our 

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travels and everything. 
We moved back into the house for

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just a little bit, and we've 
actually already remediated at 

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that point. 
So the source of the mold was 

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gone. 
The sources there were multiple,

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the sources of the mold were 
gone, but there was still mold 

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spores everywhere. 
And so we moved back in for a 

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short time. 
The bloody noses came back right

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away, and then once we moved out
again, they went away again. 

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So that was kind of wild to 
experience in in real time. 

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Yeah. 
And that situation is common 

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where people they remove the 
mold source and they think they 

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have it all, but they forget 
about all the contamination. 

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So if you think about like, 
imagine if you had someone in 

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your house that was smoking and 
they smoked in your house for a 

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year and then we removed the 
smoke, we say that's a bad idea,

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let's not smoke in here anymore.
So we quit smoking, but the home

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is still going to smell like 
smokes. 

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You could come in three months 
later and know that the smoker 

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had been in the house simply 
because you're going to smell 

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that residue everywhere. 
So it's the same thing with the 

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mold stores. 
It's not the mold underneath the

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sink that's making you sick. 
It's the mycotoxins in the mold 

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spores coming off of that's 
getting in the environment. 

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It's getting on your couch and 
your pillow and the walls and 

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your ducting. 
And if you don't address that, 

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you're still, you're going to 
have symptoms and you're still 

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going to get sick. 
But I like that you guys moved 

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into the tent for a while. 
That was an adventure. 

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Let's just show us how much 
you're dedicated to your health.

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Like, hey, we're willing, we're 
going to step away from this 

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nice house and we're going to 
move the family out into a tent 

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and we're going to get better 
because we care about our 

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health. 
And I that's impressive that you

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did that. 
It was fun. 

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It was. 
I still kind of can't believe 

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that we did that for as long as 
we did. 

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We did it for like 3-4 months. 
We'll never forget it. 

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I just, I still have vivid 
memories of, I mean, I had three

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kids at the time. 
We had three kids. 

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Our youngest was just a few 
months old. 

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So we were just like bundled up 
in the tent every night. 

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We were using little foot 
warmers because it was winter, 

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which isn't that bad in 
California, but it was in the 

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30s at night, you know, it was 
pretty chilly. 

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But we'll all remember it 
forever. 

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And it worked. 
I mean, for us, like I think 

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just getting out of that 
environment, we didn't do any 

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intense detox protocols or 
anything, but getting out of the

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environment was enough to help 
us to to feel better. 

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What is the most effective way 
that you found to detox the body

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from mold? 
You know that it's a combination

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of things. 
I like the Pompa program. 

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I work with them. 
They are really good at their 

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detox protocol. 
But it's a combination, you 

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know, moving your body, getting 
those detox pathways open, 

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sweating, making sure we're not 
introducing new toxins so that 

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the liver can focus on detoxing.
There's supplements you can take

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binders in the gut to collect 
the stuff when it goes into the 

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gut. 
There's things you can take in 

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the blood to help release it 
from the cells. 

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So it's kind of a combination of
different things, but really the

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biggest thing is getting out of 
the environment in the 1st place

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and getting your body into a 
state where we can heal. 

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The body is really good at 
healing and taking care of us if

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we put it in the right 
conditions. 

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And a lot of it with the stress 
too, the mental stress, making 

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sure you're taking that mental 
load off the body's more and not

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in that fight or flight mode 
anymore where it can relax and 

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focus on healing. 
And that's really the best we 

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can do. 
Yeah. 

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How can we take mold seriously 
without being, like, living in 

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fear of it? 
Because it is this kind of 

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scary, mysterious thing and but 
it's also a big deal. 

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So how do you kind of like 
encourage people to manage those

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two things, like taking it 
seriously, taking the 

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appropriate steps, but not like 
just shutting down and becoming 

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paralyzed and completely fearful
of molds in every situation? 

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00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,560
Yeah, we'll know that it's 
something that you can take care

453
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,040
of and you can fix, and it's a 
problem that's affecting your 

454
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,760
life and not to put your head in
the sand and ignore it. 

455
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,360
And ignorance is not bliss when 
it comes to mold. 

456
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,480
Educate yourself, learn about 
it, and then know where it's at 

457
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,360
and then what to do about it. 
And I think just learning and 

458
00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:54,480
educating is going to empower 
you to make the right decisions.

459
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,400
Emfs are another thing that you 
test for. 

460
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,480
Can you give an overview of the 
different types of Emfs that you

461
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,200
test for in people's homes? 
Yeah, there's three different 

462
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,200
types of Emfs that we like to 
look at. 

463
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,600
And the one category is things 
that are on our body. 

464
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,640
So the smartwatches, the Fitbit,
the Aura, if you have the 

465
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,080
Bluetooth headphones, cell 
phones, if it's in our pocket. 

466
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,520
So things that are on the body, 
that's really the first place 

467
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,920
that we want to look because 
we're getting the most exposure 

468
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,960
because on our body is touching 
us. 

469
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,000
The second set are going to be 
the things that are in our 

470
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,400
house. 
That's going to be any of the 

471
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,800
digital communication type 
devices, the the TV, the Wi-Fi, 

472
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,040
the Bluetooth speakers, maybe a 
thermostat on the wall. 

473
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,320
And all of those things are 
going to be transmitting, but 

474
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,400
they're not right by the body. 
They're kind of creating this 

475
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,880
overall toxic EMF soup in the 
house. 

476
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000
And then the third category is 
going to be the things that are 

477
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,600
outside the home. 
So the high voltage power lines,

478
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,040
the cell tower maybe got 5G 
tower down on the corner. 

479
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,400
All of those things outside are 
still affecting us, but not at 

480
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,000
the level of the things in the 
home. 

481
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,760
So you look at those three 
different levels, that's really 

482
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,040
where you want to focus on 
reduction, but start with the 

483
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,360
things that are on your body 
first. 

484
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,920
Those are the highest impact. 
Yeah, I remember when you tested

485
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,880
our devices, my cell phone, when
you tested it, it was off and it

486
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,440
was still emitting Emfs. 
And then I turned it back on. 

487
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,760
You had me turn it on and put it
in airplane mode and then it 

488
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,400
went quiet. 
Is that normal? 

489
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,520
Yeah, especially if you have to 
find my phone feature on. 

490
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,640
OK, I don't anymore, but maybe I
did then. 

491
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,440
Right. 
And so if you have that feature 

492
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,520
on, even with the phone is off, 
it's still sending a little ping

493
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,640
out. 
So you can find your phone if 

494
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,240
you lose it. 
So you can go into some of the 

495
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,960
settings and create a shortcut 
button. 

496
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,680
It's a true Wi-Fi and you want 
it to shut off the location 

497
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,400
services, but also turn off 
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and then of 

498
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,520
course, the cellular part of it.
And then it's not going to be 

499
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,560
transmitting. 
If someone lives close to a 5G 

500
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,720
tower or a power line, do they 
have any options to protect 

501
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,680
themselves or do they just need 
to like move? 

502
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,480
It really depends on proximity. 
So if you got those big high 

503
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,440
voltage power lines and you're 
within 200 to 300 feet, that's 

504
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,040
the that's the danger zone where
you're starting to get a lot of 

505
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,720
effect from that. 
The magnetic fields, the 

506
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,280
electric fields. 
I mean, you go walk underneath 

507
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,920
that and your hair sticks up and
you hear the crackling. 

508
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,920
That's not good, that's 
affecting your body. 

509
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,680
So and. 
Is that when you say high 

510
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,240
voltage power line, is that like
those over there? 

511
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,800
So no, the, the neighborhood 
ones, they just have a couple on

512
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,160
the top and they're running 
through neighborhood. 

513
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,600
It's not those, it's those big 
steel metal ones that are 

514
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,400
running cross country. 
Sometimes they go through the 

515
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,000
middle of town. 
The more power that's being sent

516
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,960
on the line, the bigger the 
field is going to be. 

517
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,720
And so we want to stay away from
those, the, the ones that go 

518
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,680
through the neighborhood 50 feet
and you're fine. 

519
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,920
I mean, as long as you don't, 
you know, look out your window 

520
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,640
and they're right there, you 
know, close to you and exposing 

521
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,040
you, then you're OK. 
But like the 5G towers, you 

522
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,400
know, if you're in the city or 
in some of these suburbs, we're 

523
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,040
seeing more of those pop up 
closer and closer. 

524
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,360
The thing about the 5G, though, 
is it doesn't penetrate very 

525
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:53,640
good into the walls. 
So especially if you have a 

526
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,520
stucco home that has the chicken
wire in it, that's going to 

527
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560
block a lot of the 5G. 
And that's why they need to have

528
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,200
so many of them is because they 
don't go through trees, they 

529
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,520
don't go through homes very 
well. 

530
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,520
Yeah. 
And then you could probably do 

531
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,200
the EMF blocking paint like in 
your in your house and block 

532
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,560
some of that too. 
Or no? 

533
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,120
You can, but I want to talk 
about that because people think 

534
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,320
that I just paint my house and 
I'm all good and eliminates EMF.

535
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,880
But what it does, it creates a 
little Faraday cage around your 

536
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,880
house and you can't use 
electronics in your home 

537
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,680
anymore. 
So if you want to use your cell 

538
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,920
phone, the cell phone now has to
boost its power to Max power to 

539
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,840
try to get out of that 
shielding. 

540
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320
And cell phones are smart. 
They vary their power depending 

541
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,640
on how close you are to the 
tower. 

542
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,640
So if you're only a mile away, 
your cell phone may only be on 

543
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,520
10%. 
It's really low power, low 

544
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,320
exposure. 
Now you put yourself in the 

545
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,880
shielded box, it has to boost 
its power up really high. 

546
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,800
But not only that, that signal 
now bouncing around in the room 

547
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,280
like a microwave. 
Yeah, that's nowhere to. 

548
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,360
Go took you more so you can't 
bring electronics into rooms 

549
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,080
that are shielded. 
So if we live by a tower that's 

550
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,240
blasting us, I always say, let's
start with the bedroom and make 

551
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,960
that a no technology zone or 
maybe like a library or the 

552
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,600
nursery, places where there's 
not going to be technology, but 

553
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,920
leave the office in the living 
room, the kitchen open so you 

554
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,680
can still use your electronics. 
So that way we kind of have a 

555
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,320
little sanctuary where we sleep,
where we can get away from it, 

556
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,560
but we're not totally living in 
the dark ages. 

557
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,640
Like no technology at all, 
because that's not really 

558
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,640
practical for most people. 
Yeah, but that's really good 

559
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,960
advice. 
That's what you had us do. 

560
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,480
We just did our master bedroom 
and that was the only home, the 

561
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,960
only part of the house that we 
were remodeling at the time. 

562
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,920
So we did that in EMF blocking 
paint. 

563
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,440
And I feel like I noticed a 
difference, like I would sleep 

564
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,560
incredibly. 
Oh yeah, it makes a big 

565
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,680
difference for sleep. 
Now there are some people that 

566
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280
are sensitive or like ultra 
healthier were like I don't want

567
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,840
any EMF. 
Sure, let's do the whole thing 

568
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,320
and they're using dial up phones
and plugging in their laptop and

569
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,040
that's great, but that's not 
practical for a lot of people. 

570
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,080
I'm not going to do that. 
What do you think about those 

571
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,440
new? 
I haven't looked into this much 

572
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,360
for the tin can phones that 
they're marketing for kids. 

573
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:49,880
Have you seen these? 
I haven't seen that. 

574
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,200
OK, I'll have to show them to 
you later. 

575
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,960
But they're kind of cool. 
Like I was there landlines, but 

576
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,480
they're like cool, kind of cute 
landlines. 

577
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,240
And I think this company's 
mission is to give kids like 

578
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720
some of that independence that 
we had when we are growing up of

579
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,320
like I want to call my friend, 
but without using their own 

580
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,200
personal device to do that. 
So I thought it was kind of 

581
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,560
cute, but I just was curious if 
there were any just like the the

582
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,200
EMF implications of it. 
Yeah, and those are great. 

583
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,160
It sounds good, especially if 
it's hard wired. 

584
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,520
And I like the idea of you don't
have the social media and all 

585
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,280
that other stuff. 
So it's like here, you can still

586
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,760
talk and communicate, but you 
don't have just free access to 

587
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,720
everything that's out there. 
Exactly, Yeah. 

588
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,320
Talk a little bit about faulty 
wiring in the home, because this

589
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,640
was a big issue for us and we 
had to get a lot of things 

590
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,880
rewired. 
Can you explain just what what 

591
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,000
that is exactly and like how 
that can happen and why it's a 

592
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,320
problem? 
Yeah. 

593
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,040
So the wiring in our house, we 
have our outlets and we have 

594
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,760
wires that connect all that and 
that runs through like veins in 

595
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,320
our body and all that has an 
electric field that comes off 

596
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,320
it, but also a magnetic 
component to it. 

597
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,880
Now, if we have wiring errors 
and things are correctly wired 

598
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,960
in the home grounds are off, 
then we can have that electronic

599
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,800
exposure amplify it and become a
lot worse in the house. 

600
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,400
And now you're laying in bed and
you have the wires in your wall 

601
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800
and that energy is transmitted 
out into the wall. 

602
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,280
It's getting onto your body. 
And so it's really important to 

603
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,880
do a check up on the wiring and 
make sure that everything's 

604
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,000
wired correctly. 
Some people even go a step 

605
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,800
further and they wired in 
conduit, like what we're going 

606
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,240
to do with your new house. 
We're going to put all the 

607
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,520
sleeping areas in nursery and 
office area in conduit. 

608
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,960
So it's blocking that electric 
field from coming out into the 

609
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,800
room. 
What does that mean in conduit? 

610
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,280
Like encased in metal and then 
that metal is grounded to earth 

611
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,600
so that those electrical fields 
they contact the the conduit and

612
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480
get shorted back down to earth 
nice before it gets a chance to 

613
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,040
get on the body. 
Yeah, I'm, I'm so grateful that 

614
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840
we have you to advise us on all 
of this because this is like way

615
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,800
over my head. 
Yeah, the level that the level 

616
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,040
of detail that you put into it. 
But I appreciate it. 

617
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320
What's the most surprising 
source of EMF's in the home that

618
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,520
people would be shocked by? 
I would say those Roomba vacuums

619
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,040
that the the wireless ones, cuz 
those can be in the living room 

620
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,880
or the kitchen close by and 
they're battery powered so 

621
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,040
they're always transmitting out 
a big source and they can be 

622
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280
pretty powerful like a Wi-Fi 
signal. 

623
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,160
Wow. 
I've had some situation where 

624
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200
I'm looking for the source and I
can't figure out what it is, and

625
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,800
sure enough it's a vacuum. 
It's underneath the couch or 

626
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,640
something, but it's emitting a 
lot of energy. 

627
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,080
Smart homes are becoming more 
and more popular and it seems 

628
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,680
like now every device has Wi-Fi 
or Bluetooth capabilities. 

629
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,160
Why is this a problem and what 
would you say to anyone who 

630
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,160
pushes back on EMF's and says 
it's not really that big of a 

631
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480
deal? 
It's a problem because it's 

632
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,600
becoming more and more prevalent
in our home where all of these 

633
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,360
devices are now starting to 
connect with each other and the 

634
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,440
Internet of Things and talk to 
where the appliance is like 

635
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,200
almost anything running off of 
electricity. 

636
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Now it seems like it has to 
connect to the Internet and be 

637
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440
able to control it by our phone.
So now we're just adding all of 

638
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,920
these sources in our house and 
also more of a data concern. 

639
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,080
So if you're worried about 
people hacking into your home 

640
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,520
and getting your data or getting
on your Wi-Fi network, all of 

641
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,080
these devices are are entry 
points to the house. 

642
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,680
And so that can be a problem 
also, not just from a health 

643
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,520
standpoint, but from a security 
standpoint. 

644
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,320
I like the question about what 
do you tell people that don't 

645
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,040
think EMF is a problem, because 
there's a simple way to really 

646
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,480
demonstrate how EMF can be 
dangerous. 

647
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,480
Is it? 
Would you put your head in the 

648
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,320
microwave and turn it on? 
I don't think anybody would do 

649
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,800
that. 
They realize that that's 

650
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,960
dangerous, that's harmful. 
Well, that's EMF. 

651
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,080
In fact, it's 2.4 gigahertz, 
which is the same as our Wi-Fi 

652
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,640
and our Bluetooth headsets. 
It's using the exact same 

653
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960
frequency. 
It's just at a really high level

654
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,640
and it cooks our food rather 
quickly. 

655
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,320
I mean, I don't know how long it
would take to put your head in 

656
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,680
there before you're cooking your
brain and and dead, but it 

657
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,400
wouldn't take very long. 
And so that's EMF. 

658
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,080
So anybody that says EMF is not 
dangerous just doesn't 

659
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,720
understand the the concept. 
Anything at a high enough level 

660
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160
can be dangerous. 
Problem is it's like, well, at 

661
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,400
low levels, it's not, well, what
if low level over a long amount 

662
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,520
of time can be just as harmful 
as a short amount of time at a 

663
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,080
higher level? 
It's just what's our overall 

664
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,120
exposure? 
Yeah, it's just a slower 

665
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,560
poisoning, right? 
Yeah, talk to me about sound 

666
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,680
machines. 
What should parents be aware of 

667
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,040
when choosing a sound machine 
for their baby or small 

668
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,200
children? 
Yeah. 

669
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,600
So there's this one device, I 
think it's the home or 

670
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,320
something, and it has an actual 
fan in it and a motor, and that 

671
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,160
puts off a really high magnetic 
field. 

672
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,760
So that magnetic field can now 
radiate into the room. 

673
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,040
And a lot of them are right by 
the bed on the night stand. 

674
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,480
So the child's there trying to 
sleep. 

675
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,640
We're putting a magnetic field 
into that room. 

676
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,320
I think that's the one that we 
have when you tested the house. 

677
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,200
Yep, and it's fairly common. 
It's more of a. 

678
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,760
Common common one and it's like 
very it plugs in like it's not. 

679
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,240
It just feels more old school. 
It doesn't feel like advanced or

680
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,680
super technological to where you
would think it would be an 

681
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880
issue, but it still is. 
It is. 

682
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,120
It is using a fan and a motor 
that has a magnetic field to it.

683
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,720
But there's others too that 
going back to the devicing where

684
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480
they connect from Wi-Fi or 
Bluetooth. 

685
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,040
And so now it's like a little 
mini cell tower in your room 

686
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,480
that's transmitted out, that's 
given high exposure to us and 

687
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,760
our kids. 
Baby monitors are another big 

688
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520
one. 
Why are baby monitors putting 

689
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000
infants at risk? 
Same exact reason. 

690
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,480
It's a source of EMF, it's a 
source of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 

691
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,960
radiation that's sending that 
signal to the other end to the 

692
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,920
monitor. 
So we can hear it. 

693
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,360
But again, a lot of times it's 
right there by the crib, right 

694
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,080
there by the baby transmitting. 
Even when they're not sleeping 

695
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320
or when we're not using it to 
monitor in them, it's still 

696
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,240
transmitting 24/7. 
Again, it's like a little mini 

697
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,280
cell tower. 
So it's funny, a lot of time 

698
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,680
people call me out and they're 
worried about the cell phone 

699
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,080
down at the park or the 5G tower
down at the end of the street. 

700
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,960
And I'll go in their house and 
they have Bluetooth speakers and

701
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,920
they have baby monitors. 
They have all these things right

702
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,560
there by them and they're not 
thinking about those devices. 

703
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,880
They're just doing the same 
thing. 

704
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,480
Yeah, people may hate that I say
this, but I just think we've 

705
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,440
over complicated raising 
children so much. 

706
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,440
I mean, 100 years ago people did
not use baby monitors and sound 

707
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,880
machines. 
I did use sound machines. 

708
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Not anymore, but I'd never use 
baby monitors with any of my 

709
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,080
three children and I just don't 
think they're necessary. 

710
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Like when my kids were young, 
very young, they slept on me or 

711
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,120
near me. 
And then as they got older and 

712
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,520
they were sleeping on their own,
I would just crack the door 

713
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,360
open. 
I mean, if unless you have like 

714
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,960
a 5000 square foot house, you 
can kind of, you can hear your 

715
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,560
child's cries from anywhere in 
the house. 

716
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,040
So I just think we've 
overcomplicated raising children

717
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,680
and we have to remember that the
baby industry is still an 

718
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,160
industry and they are going to 
market new devices, new things 

719
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,560
to us and we just don't need all
of it. 

720
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Right, you don't you'd think you
do and they tell us we do and 

721
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,560
they mark it very well. 
But a lot of times if we're I 

722
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240
get that all the time, like I 
have to work or I got stuff I 

723
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,360
got to do and I can't be right 
next to them. 

724
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Put the baby down where you're 
sleeping. 

725
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,960
So maybe you work and the room 
right next to you is where the 

726
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,440
baby sleeps. 
And So what like I said, you're 

727
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360
going to hear a baby cry. 
They get pretty loud you. 

728
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Can't hear them? 
They'll make sure you hear them.

729
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,280
What are some things that people
can do to reduce EMF exposure in

730
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,760
their homes? 
A lot of it is being able to 

731
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,200
identify the source. 
So maybe get an EMF meter and go

732
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,880
through the house and do like a 
call with someone like me and 

733
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,400
just help go through just one 
time, like 30 minutes and go 

734
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,400
through the home and identify 
where all the sources are. 

735
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,440
And then I talked about 
practical avoidance. 

736
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360
So if we're not using the 
device, don't have it on our 

737
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,160
body and don't have it near us, 
so we're doing this right now, 

738
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,560
there's no reason to have cell 
phone on us with it on. 

739
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,240
It can be on airplane mode, it 
can be over there on the table. 

740
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,640
OK. 
Quick question on that. 

741
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,200
What can guys do to not have 
their cell phone like in their 

742
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,000
pockets? 
Like that's something that Jeff 

743
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600
still is not completely on board
with. 

744
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,000
Like he will put his cell phone 
in his pocket and like I know 

745
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,200
you can put them on airplane 
mode. 

746
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Are there Shields that are 
helpful? 

747
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,560
What do you do? 
So just being cautious, like if 

748
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,800
it's going to be in my pocket, 
make sure it's on airplane mode.

749
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560
But if I'm driving in the car, 
it's up on the dash or it's away

750
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,200
from me. 
If I'm at the office working, 

751
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,960
it's not on my lap, it's not on 
my body, it's on the desk. 

752
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,960
Just try not to have it on the 
body as much as possible. 

753
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Just being conscious about that.
If it's next to us, next to our 

754
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,440
parts that we don't want to 
cook, we want to make sure 

755
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680
they're on airplane mode. 
Do the cases work? 

756
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600
The EMF blocking cases. 
So it kind of goes back to 

757
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,320
having the shielded house. 
If we're going to put a shield 

758
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,360
around the phone, then it's 
going to attenuate its signal 

759
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760
and have a problem reaching the 
tower. 

760
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640
So now it thinks it's a lot 
further away from the tower than

761
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,200
it really is. 
It's got to boost its power up. 

762
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,160
It can make it worse in some 
cases. 

763
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,840
What else can people do in the 
home? 

764
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,680
What about like their their 
Wi-Fi? 

765
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,480
Do you recommend turning that 
off at night? 

766
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,400
And where in the home is the 
best place to store your Wi-Fi 

767
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,360
router? 
Yeah, So practical avoidance 

768
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,920
again, at night we're sleeping, 
we don't need Wi-Fi. 

769
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,520
Some people have security 
cameras that they connect to and

770
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,600
that's a different deal. 
But for the majority of people, 

771
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,200
we don't need to have this 
technology on at night. 

772
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,120
So putting it on a timer, like a
Christmas light timer where 

773
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280
midnight it shuts off, 8 in the 
morning it kicks back on and it 

774
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,760
does this automatically in the 
background. 

775
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,800
So we don't have to think about 
it. 

776
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,880
I. 
Think that's what you have let 

777
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,160
us do? 
Like, we literally just used our

778
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,679
Christmas light, yeah, timer and
used it for the Wi-Fi. 

779
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,239
Yeah. 
And so if you have any devices 

780
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,719
in the sleeping area, like if 
you have ATV in the room or an 

781
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,639
Apple TV, put those things on 
timers as well so you don't have

782
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,280
to think about it. 
But also charge your phone maybe

783
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,120
in the bathroom, not right next 
to the bed. 

784
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,480
So it's not make this 8 foot 
bubble around your bed. 

785
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,080
Make sure there's no technology 
in there. 

786
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Can you tell us about smart 
meters? 

787
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,360
Yeah, I think smart meters are 
over played, over worried about 

788
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,639
because a lot of times the smart
meter is firing away from the 

789
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,920
house. 
So really, you want to worry 

790
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,320
about your neighbor's smart 
meter that's firing towards you.

791
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,840
If you have make friends with 
them, go bring them some 

792
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,880
cookies. 
And yeah. 

793
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:48,520
Tell them that. 
Let's talk about your smart 

794
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,639
meter. 
You can get these little cages 

795
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,480
that go around it that will 
shield the signal. 

796
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:53,760
OK. 
It will make it so it doesn't 

797
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,440
send out. 
But honestly, when I'm doing 

798
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,520
testing in the home and let's 
say we turn off all the sources 

799
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,480
in the house, airplane mode on 
the on the phones and laptops, 

800
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,800
and then we measure what's 
coming in, it's actually pretty 

801
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,280
insignificant compared to all of
your other sources. 

802
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,840
Interesting. 
So yeah, it's important. 

803
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,560
Yeah, it's a source, but not 
even close to what your cell 

804
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,600
phone, your Bluetooth speakers, 
or your laptop is putting off 

805
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,920
your appliances. 
Yeah, OK. 

806
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,600
And you can call the electricity
company too and have them shut 

807
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,960
it off and just check manually. 
Yeah, most places you can opt 

808
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,880
out. 
Sometimes they'll give you a 

809
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,520
hard time about that, or they'll
charge you an extra fee because 

810
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,440
they actually have to come out 
to your house physically and 

811
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,840
read it. 
But it's worth doing. 

812
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,560
What about alarm systems? 
A lot of alarm systems aren't as

813
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,520
bad as people think because they
only really transmit when 

814
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,640
there's a problem or like a like
a beacon signal to let it know 

815
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,280
it's still there and it's still 
active. 

816
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,680
The main brain of that can be 
very powerful because that's 

817
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,600
always on. 
So making sure that that's in a 

818
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960
closet or away from high use 
areas. 

819
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000
So when I say high use areas 
anywhere in your home where 

820
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
you're spending more than 30 
minutes, like the kitchen, the 

821
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,720
living room, office, bedroom, 
making sure that that main brain

822
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,320
of that is maybe in the 
mechanical room or out in the 

823
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,080
garage or something. 
Okay, that's good. 

824
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Is there one that you like or 
recommend? 

825
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:10,480
Any time you can do hardwire, I 
always recommend doing hardwire 

826
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,280
physical connection, not using 
the wireless function. 

827
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,800
Okay. 
You have a really interesting 

828
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,080
background of doing sort of the 
opposite of what you're doing 

829
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,120
now. 
You worked in the nightlife 

830
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,840
industry and you manipulated 
sounds and lighting to create 

831
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,360
environments that were like 
ultra stimulating and adrenaline

832
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,560
inducing. 
Can you tell us some things that

833
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,960
you would do to create those 
types of environments? 

834
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Yeah, one of the tricks we did 
there was this device that we 

835
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,640
would put in in line before the 
speakers and we did this in 

836
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,320
nightclubs and churches, and it 
would produce subharmonic 

837
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,160
frequencies in the body or in 
the in the sound, which would 

838
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,760
create alpha waves in the body. 
It would make us feel better. 

839
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,280
So it's kind of like you listen 
to like acapella singing, like 

840
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,280
boys the man, and they're 
singing different octaves, the 

841
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,400
same note that's harmonizing. 
And so when you do that with 

842
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,200
subharmonic frequencies, it 
doesn't really mess with the 

843
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,120
sound too much, but it creates 
that that feeling that harmonic 

844
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,640
tone and that makes us feel 
good. 

845
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,840
And so that was a trick we were 
putting into all of our systems 

846
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040
And it studies show like, 
especially with the bars, like 

847
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,920
there were less fights, people 
were staying, there was more 

848
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,880
connection, they were spending 
more on alcohol. 

849
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,760
So we could show that there was 
a number. 

850
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,320
Same thing with the churches. 
People would feel the spirit, so

851
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,440
to speak more. 
They would feel that energy or 

852
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,200
that vibe a lot better. 
So it's just manipulating the 

853
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,720
sound waves and there's things 
like binaural beats and the 

854
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:35,880
sophasial frequencies and all 
these things with these sound 

855
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,840
frequencies that you can inject 
into the signal. 

856
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,720
So how do different frequencies 
impact us? 

857
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,200
Yeah, so some frequencies sound 
better to us, and our body feels

858
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,200
that, and we resonate with that 
more than others. 

859
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,960
We all have a frequency. 
Like if you were to measure your

860
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,000
heart, your brain, your nervous 
system is all running on these 

861
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,960
frequencies, and so is mine. 
But they're different. 

862
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680
We have a different signature, 
and so different frequencies can

863
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,040
interact with our bodies. 
That's why maybe your favorite 

864
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200
song is different than my 
favorite song because it has 

865
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,840
those specific frequencies in it
and your body just feels good, 

866
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,400
whereas other songs may annoy 
the crap out of you and you 

867
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,600
don't like that and so those 
frequencies are having a 

868
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040
negative effect on the body. 
Interesting, so it can be 

869
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,440
individual. 
Absolutely. 

870
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,640
Wow. 
Very individual, yeah. 

871
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,760
That's so interesting that you 
kind of did the same thing for 

872
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000
churches that you did for 
nightclubs. 

873
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,240
Was it literally like the same 
playbook, or were there any 

874
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,920
differences between the 
nightclubs and the churches that

875
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,680
you worked with? 
Literally the same playbook. 

876
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,400
Wow, same exact thing there. 
And it was the same concept, the

877
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,480
same idea. 
It's just one is selling one 

878
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
thing and one is selling another
thing with It's an experience. 

879
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,680
Experience. 
It's a community. 

880
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,440
And I'm assuming these were like
really big mega church type type

881
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,560
places or were they or was that 
not the case? 

882
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,320
Was it kind of more just the 
everyday, you know, kind of 

883
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,600
probably a little bit bigger? 
I don't imagine that like your 

884
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,480
neighborhood church would hire 
Someone Like You to do this. 

885
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,920
But what was What types of 
churches did you work with? 

886
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,600
It was a full range of churches.
It really was. 

887
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,440
And it was really cool because I
got to see all these different 

888
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,240
churches and learn about 
different churches, at least for

889
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,320
my own spiritual journey and and
looking at all this stuff. 

890
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,080
It was really cool to see all 
the different denominations, but

891
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,880
they were all the same. 
It was all the playbook and even

892
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,080
going to like we did even as far
on this side, like strip clubs, 

893
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,960
like the lights, the sounds of 
videos. 

894
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,640
All of these places are trying 
to sell you an experience. 

895
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,280
They're trying to get you to 
feel good. 

896
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,280
You want to go to these places 
to feel good, to feel connected,

897
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,040
to be part of the community, and
they're just using different 

898
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,000
things that they're selling to 
you. 

899
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,760
That's fascinating. 
We have to talk about lighting. 

900
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,360
Lighting is something we've 
talked about it a lot on this 

901
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,560
podcast, but it's so important 
and you have a lot of expertise 

902
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,200
in this, so I don't want to 
gloss over it. 

903
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Why does the lighting in our 
home matter? 

904
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,920
So as far as in the home goes, 
we want to base our lighting off

905
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,200
of the sun. 
So an ancestrally we lived 

906
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,120
outside most of the time and we 
got our cues from the sun. 

907
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,240
So it's no coincidence that we 
sleep at night when the sun goes

908
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:00,840
down and that we're awake during
the day. 

909
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,120
And so the cues that we're 
getting like from right now, the

910
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,640
sun is overhead, it's shining 
down, it's this natural, it's 

911
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,560
full spectrum that's telling our
body to suppress melatonin. 

912
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,480
And to be awake now when that 
sun starts to go down and we see

913
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,440
the amber color, the red, the 
yellow, and eventually it goes 

914
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,920
back behind the sunset. 
And then we use candles and 

915
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,360
lanterns and fire, which is a 
really warm glow that would tell

916
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,040
our body to start getting ready 
for bed and to create melatonin 

917
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,280
and so that we have a good 
night's sleep. 

918
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,120
The problem is, is modern day 
lighting. 

919
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Now the sun goes down and what 
do we flip on all these bright 

920
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,480
lights, these bright overhead 
lights or we're getting in front

921
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,680
of the screen or the TV or a 
phone that has blue light in it.

922
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,880
It's messing up our bodies in 
like internal signal that's 

923
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,880
trying to control our sleep 
cycle. 

924
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,240
And so it's completely throws 
that off because a lot of it is 

925
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,560
light based. 
So how can people create a 

926
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,480
circadian friendly environment 
in their home? 

927
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,680
And one, being conscious of it 
and knowing like we're going to 

928
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,480
mimic the sun. 
When the sun goes down, we 

929
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,160
shouldn't have any overhead 
bright lights. 

930
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,560
We should have eye level warm 
colored lights that are at lower

931
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,040
level. 
Not super bright, bright enough 

932
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,320
that we can see what we're 
doing, but getting the blue 

933
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,560
light out of it and going to 
more of the amber and the yellow

934
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200
and the red colored lights. 
And you have a specific light 

935
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,200
bulb recommendation that you 
have recommended for us and that

936
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,640
we're implementing. 
What is that? 

937
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,040
I like the block blue light 
bulbs because they don't 

938
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,440
flicker, they don't have the 
blue light in them and they're 

939
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,080
not supposed to have dirty 
electricity. 

940
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Although I just got a text from 
somebody in the industry that 

941
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,680
knows it says, hey, you need to 
look in it because there was a 

942
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,920
rumor that they have dirty 
electricity. 

943
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Maybe we shouldn't be saying 
this until I verify it, But so 

944
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,520
I'm looking at that and see, but
there's really not a lot of 

945
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,080
other really good options. 
You can go with film grade LED 

946
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,920
incandescents are great, but 
they're really hard to find 

947
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,960
incandescents now. 
They don't make those anymore, 

948
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,680
at least on a commercial scale. 
So at least for now, we're going

949
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,240
with the block blue light. 
They're better. 

950
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,480
Nothing but. 
And they're actually LEDs, which

951
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,240
I was surprised by, but why are 
they different than normal LED 

952
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,760
normal LED's? 
Because the circuitry on them is

953
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,920
designed better for constant 
power supply mode instead of a 

954
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,800
switch mode transistor in it 
that turns that on on and off 

955
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,040
really fast. 
And that's they do that to save 

956
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,760
battery power and, and energy. 
So it's on for like 20% of the 

957
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,440
time, then off for 80 and on. 
And but it does that so fast 

958
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,560
that it looks like a consistent 
glow, but our mind can tell the 

959
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,120
difference. 
It can see that flicker rate. 

960
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,840
OK so in the house that we are 
living in now and renting now 

961
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,840
they just have standard LE DS 
and so I wear my red lens 

962
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,520
glasses at night. 
I try to get my family to do the

963
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,520
same thing. 
But when we move back into our 

964
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,080
home with these new light bulbs,
will I still need to wear blue 

965
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,440
light blocking glasses like late
at night? 

966
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,800
You won't. 
As long as you're laptop in your

967
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,880
phone has night mode on it and 
night shift where it's taking 

968
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,760
the blue light out and all the 
bulbs are all dialed in so 

969
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,760
there's no blue light, then you 
shouldn't have to wear the 

970
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,080
glasses anymore. 
Nice. 

971
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Yeah, well, they look cool. 
They make you look like a 

972
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,440
biohacker, like an official 
biohacker. 

973
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,600
I mean, you got to have the red 
glasses. 

974
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,040
I get made fun of a lot for 
them. 

975
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,120
You've told me before that a 
green home is not a healthy 

976
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,560
home. 
Can you explain what you mean by

977
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
that? 
Yeah, so green home came about 

978
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,320
like in the 80s and 90s when 
they're worried about gas 

979
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,600
shortage and we need to be 
energy efficient and save the 

980
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,080
planet, which all this stuff is 
important, but the problem is it

981
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,560
comes at the expense of our 
health. 

982
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,760
So what they did is they made 
the home super airtight. 

983
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,920
They brought in the LE DS with 
the flicker where the homes 

984
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,840
aren't breathing anymore. 
They're switching out some of 

985
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,040
these natural building materials
for synthetic materials. 

986
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,000
So we're not chopping all the 
trees down. 

987
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,760
We're using plastics and things.
Now all of those things have 

988
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,080
harmful effects on the body when
the homes not breathing. 

989
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Now we're have built up of 
toxins in there and the the Poly

990
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,440
vinyl floors instead of wood 
floors are now off gassing 

991
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,400
chemicals and then we have the 
flicker rate. 

992
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,280
And so we're basically turning 
into a synthetic environment and

993
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,000
our bodies don't like that. 
And so green is about saving 

994
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,280
energy, healthy home is about 
protecting our body. 

995
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,680
So there is a balance there. 
Another thing that you test for 

996
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,160
in homes is chemicals. 
So for homes that tend to test 

997
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,200
really high for chemicals, what 
are the main culprits? 

998
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,240
So in a brand new house, the 
chemical load is going to be 

999
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,360
really high, especially if we 
didn't think about the stuff 

1000
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,720
when we're building the house. 
Like the paint is probably the 

1001
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,280
biggest one. 
It's the biggest surface in our 

1002
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,760
home. 
And if you're not using the 

1003
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000
non-toxic VOC paint, we're going
to be off gassing a lot of those

1004
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,880
chemicals in there, but also the
flooring and the glues. 

1005
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,640
And then you go in a new home 
like it has a bunch of carpet 

1006
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,160
and you smell that new carpet 
smell. 

1007
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,400
That's the formaldehydes and the
glues and the VOC off gassing. 

1008
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,160
And then the cabinets are 
another big one. 

1009
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,240
So the compressed and fiber 
board is held together with 

1010
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,880
glues that can off gas for 
several years. 

1011
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,640
And then of course the furniture
we bring in all that and then 

1012
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,800
the foams. 
So there's just a lot of these 

1013
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
new products that take several 
years to off gas. 

1014
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,720
Yeah, and the furniture often 
times is sprayed with flame 

1015
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,040
retardant, right? 
Right. 

1016
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,840
So then we have flame retardant 
and Scotchgard too, to protect 

1017
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,840
it from stains. 
The stain resistance, that's the

1018
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,560
PFOA is the forever and they 
call them forever chemicals 

1019
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,560
because they don't break down. 
They persist in the body and in 

1020
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,440
the environment. 
Is there a safe like furniture 

1021
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520
brand that you would recommend 
or anything that people can look

1022
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,080
for when they're shopping for 
furniture? 

1023
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,320
Furniture is hard, you've really
got to do the research. 

1024
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,320
I mean, IKEA has a bunch of 
really natural wood type stuff. 

1025
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,320
This is great. 
There's some futon companies out

1026
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,480
there using sheep's wool and 
natural latex. 

1027
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,760
Organic latex, so. 
And wool's great because the you

1028
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,800
don't that doesn't have to be 
sprayed with flame retardant, 

1029
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,640
right? 
Exactly. 

1030
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,680
It's naturally flame. 
Retardant because it's it's like

1031
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,640
a legal not to. 
Basically these flame retardant 

1032
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,720
companies, they've like lobbied 
so much with the government to 

1033
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,320
create laws that everything has 
to be sprayed with flame 

1034
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,680
retardant unless it is like 
something that's naturally flame

1035
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,600
retardant like wool. 
Yeah, but I remember learning 

1036
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,720
about that at one point. 
I'm like, this is crazy. 

1037
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,920
It is crazy just because one a 
person fell asleep with a 

1038
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,160
cigarette in their bed burned 
them up, which is unfortunate, 

1039
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,080
but not all the rest of us have 
to suffer. 

1040
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,880
And I would like to know how 
many lives have been saved by 

1041
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,320
spraying all of our couches and 
rugs with flame retardant. 

1042
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,800
Really. 
Versus how many people get. 

1043
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,640
Cancer. 
Exactly. 

1044
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,120
Like what are you going to do if
there's a fire? 

1045
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,600
Just like shelter on the couch? 
No, right. 

1046
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,160
You're going to burn up. 
Like who is this helping? 

1047
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,880
No one, exactly. 
Yeah. 

1048
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,200
They're probably in cahoots with
Big Pharma. 

1049
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,400
Like, we'll spray this 
everywhere so that people need 

1050
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,000
more drugs. 
Absolutely, I can get behind 

1051
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,720
that. 
What about cleaning products? 

1052
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,880
What are cleaning products doing
to us in the home? 

1053
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,080
That's another big one. 
There's over 80,000 registered 

1054
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,840
chemicals right now in use for 
public and only half of those 

1055
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,520
has really been tested good on 
humans and none of those have 

1056
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,440
been tested in combination with 
each other. 

1057
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400
And sometimes when we add these 
chemicals together, they can be 

1058
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
a lot more data. 
It's like ammonia and bleach mix

1059
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,720
chloramine gas, which can kill 
you. 

1060
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,240
So we're talking about Windex 
and bleach. 

1061
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,560
How many people have that same 
thing in their cabinet right 

1062
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,200
now? 
Some of that could be mixing. 

1063
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,840
You open that up to get your 
products. 

1064
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,240
Now you're breathing that stuff 
in. 

1065
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,800
Now you're feeling a little 
light headed, a little dizzy, a 

1066
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,680
little got a headache, you know,
after you just got done 

1067
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,560
cleaning. 
Why is that? 

1068
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,360
Will you just introduce more of 
these chemicals in our body? 

1069
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,320
So our bodies are chemical in 
nature. 

1070
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,840
We're electrical, chemical 
beans. 

1071
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,160
And so any time we messed up 
that chemical makeup, it's going

1072
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,840
to throw off our balance and 
we're going to have issues. 

1073
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,160
Can personal care products and 
beauty products create high 

1074
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,720
levels of chemicals in the air 
when they are sitting in drawers

1075
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,800
or sitting on a bathroom 
countertop, even if they're in 

1076
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,160
closed containers? 
Yes, they can leach out. 

1077
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,120
And a perfect example, next time
I'm at Walmart or Kmart or 

1078
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,800
something, go down the cleaning 
aisle section and tell me if you

1079
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,480
can't smell chemicals. 
At least for me, like I'll get a

1080
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
headache by the time I get down 
the end of the aisle just 

1081
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,560
because it's it's leaching out 
through the plastics, leaching 

1082
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,360
out through the the lid. 
It doesn't all stay contained in

1083
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,160
there. 
For people who want to improve 

1084
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,000
the air quality in their home, 
but they also have financial 

1085
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,120
constraints, what are some cost 
effective ways to improve indoor

1086
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,240
air quality? 
The first thing is to eliminate 

1087
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,080
the sources. 
So go through your house and get

1088
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,920
rid of unnecessary things that 
you're not using. 

1089
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,480
I can't tell you how many times 
I go into inspections, I open up

1090
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,160
the cupboard under the sink or 
the cupboard above the laundry 

1091
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440
room and it's just filled with 
toxic chemicals. 

1092
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,400
And I would say 95% of those 
they don't even use. 

1093
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,720
It's just sitting in there from 
one time they needed the 

1094
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,240
specific chemical. 
So get rid of all that stuff, 

1095
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,840
get it out of your house. 
If you're like, hey, I might 

1096
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,080
need this one day. 
At least put it out in the 

1097
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,400
garage or somewhere that's out 
of the breeding space. 

1098
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,240
So eliminating the source is the
first thing. 

1099
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,920
And then the second thing is 
airing out your home, you know, 

1100
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,800
and very few K, like if it's 
super humid outside, we don't 

1101
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,600
want to bring in humidity or 
maybe it's fire season and it's 

1102
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,600
really polluted outside. 
But the rest of the time, get 

1103
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,800
that fresh air into your house, 
even if it's a little cold or 

1104
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,400
hot, Air out the home as much as
possible. 

1105
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,920
Those two things are going to be
your biggest ways to combat it 

1106
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,640
for free. 
What about next level ways? 

1107
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,640
For anyone who is really serious
about this and wants to 

1108
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,920
radically improve the air 
quality in their home, what 

1109
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,120
would you recommend? 
Then the next is get a good air 

1110
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,200
filter, a good air scrubber. 
Jasper, Like the Jasper? 

1111
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,360
Yeah, we're a big fan of Jasper.
Love Jasper? 

1112
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Yep, they're my favorite overall
because they have a lot of 

1113
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,720
carbon in them, a lot of surface
space for filtration, and 

1114
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,200
they're quiet and they look 
good. 

1115
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,280
Good customer service, they're a
little bit of expensive, but I 

1116
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,920
always tell people this is a 
lifelong investment. 

1117
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,880
They have a lifetime warranty. 
If something happens, they just 

1118
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,800
ship you a new one. 
You're going to have clean air 

1119
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,440
for life and it's really one of 
the biggest impact things. 

1120
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,000
You know, I have like 8 of them 
in my house. 

1121
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,840
They're all throughout my. 
House, how do you space them 

1122
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,360
out? 
Like where all would you 

1123
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,360
recommend putting an air filter 
ideally? 

1124
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,120
And then like, if you maybe only
can afford one or two, where are

1125
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,600
the most important places to 
have them? 

1126
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,160
So where you're spending the 
most amount of time is where you

1127
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,760
want to have them within like 8 
feet of you or so. 

1128
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,000
So definitely bedroom right off 
the bat. 

1129
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,600
I have two in my bedroom, one on
each side, and I have one in all

1130
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,800
of my kids bedrooms. 
And then I have one in my office

1131
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200
because I spend a lot of time in
there and I have a couple out in

1132
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,680
the main room. 
You know when we cook and we 

1133
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,600
have guests over and they keep 
that area clean? 

1134
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,160
And for anyone who maybe can't 
afford a good air scrubber like 

1135
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,400
Jasper yet, what do you 
recommend? 

1136
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,720
So real simple you can go down 
to Walmart and or on Amazon and 

1137
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,160
picks up one of those box fans, 
the old school box looking fans 

1138
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,280
and then buy your HVAC filter 
like a 24 by 24. 

1139
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,080
Tape it to the back of that with
some good old duct tape. 

1140
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,280
Turn that thing on and you got 
yourself cheap filter DIY for 

1141
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,560
like 40 bucks. 
It's a great hack, and it's 

1142
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,160
especially good if you're 
remodeling or doing anything 

1143
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,720
where you're just going to like 
blow through air filters. 

1144
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,520
Like I wouldn't want to use my 
nice Jasper for a time when I 

1145
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,440
knew that the air was just going
to be dealing with a lot of 

1146
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,160
particulates anyway. 
So when we were remodeling our 

1147
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,720
bathroom a while ago, we just 
did a bunch of the box fans just

1148
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,200
to kind of like lower some of 
that particulate load and we 

1149
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,720
just like blew through those 
filters. 

1150
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:30,600
They were getting so so dark and
dusty and gross by the end of 

1151
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,720
it, but it worked. 
Yeah. 

1152
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:34,280
Or if you got a basement that 
you don't go down often, you can

1153
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,560
put a couple down there, put 
them on high cuz they're noisy. 

1154
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,320
They don't look the best, but 
they definitely work really 

1155
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,120
good. 
Is outdoor air always cleaner 

1156
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,440
than indoor air, even when you 
live in a city? 

1157
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,520
Not always, but the majority of 
the time outdoor air is cleaner.

1158
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,480
If you think about it, where 
does the indoor air come from? 

1159
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:54,080
It comes from outside. 
So we bring this air in and then

1160
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,800
unless we have a lot of air 
filtration, we're typically 

1161
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,360
adding to that. 
And so if we analyze what's in 

1162
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,320
the dust, what's flowing around,
it's typically dead skin cells, 

1163
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,240
it's insect parts, insect feces,
it's broken down foams and 

1164
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:08,640
fibers, pollen, mold, bacteria 
and microplastic. 

1165
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,520
So all of that stuff is creating
this dust and that gets into the

1166
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,240
air and we breathe it in and 
we're adding to that from the 

1167
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:17,040
outside. 
That's another reason why it 

1168
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,600
makes sense to do that deep 
clean at least once a year to 

1169
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,480
get rid of clean all that. 
Stuff deep clean air filtration,

1170
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,880
bring it in fresh air, yeah. 
Why are conventional cleaning 

1171
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,520
products an issue, and what 
alternatives do you recommend? 

1172
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,360
So the problem with conventional
cleaning products is they're not

1173
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,600
required to disclose the 
ingredients on the label, unlike

1174
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,600
the FDA and food. 
They're required to disclose 

1175
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,120
everything that's in there. 
But with cleaning supplies, 

1176
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,200
personal care products, those 
things is just all about 

1177
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,200
marketing. 
So they can say green and 

1178
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,680
healthy. 
And I have a picture of a lemon 

1179
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,320
on there. 
You know, I guarantee there's 

1180
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,600
not any lemon in there. 
It's a chemical that smells like

1181
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,800
lemon. 
So going back to, you know, all 

1182
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,120
the different chemicals and how 
they're not really tested on the

1183
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,320
body and they're not tested in 
combination with each other. 

1184
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,320
When we put those things on our 
body or in the environment, 

1185
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,720
breed those in, we're exposing 
ourselves to a lot of unknown 

1186
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:08,120
chemicals that are going to be 
very harmful to the body. 

1187
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,600
And a myth that I learned from 
my friends at Branch basics. 

1188
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,840
I love branch basics. 
Do you use Branch basics all? 

1189
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,280
I do, yeah. 
I like Branch Basics. 

1190
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,440
They have a lot of good options 
that you can just swap out and 

1191
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,080
get rid of your toxic stuff. 
Just go to them and they have 

1192
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,160
the full lineup. 
Exactly, and I didn't know this 

1193
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,160
before I became friends with 
them. 

1194
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,640
But you don't actually need a 
separate product to clean your 

1195
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,400
toilet than the one that you're 
using to wash your dishes. 

1196
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,680
Like soap is soap. 
And then there's just a bunch of

1197
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,240
other junk added and marketing 
to make us think that we need 

1198
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:39,280
all these different things. 
But what I love about their 

1199
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,560
stuff is that it's 1 concentrate
and you use it at different 

1200
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,880
concentrations for different 
parts of the house. 

1201
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,960
But it's just the same like 
simple cleaning solution that 

1202
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,400
that kind of works for 
everything. 

1203
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,480
I've also heard that just like 
water and vinegar works pretty 

1204
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,320
good for a lot of cleaning 
problems in the home. 

1205
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,040
What's your take on that? 
Yeah. 

1206
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,240
And that's I use the combination
of both of those, but we have a 

1207
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:06,160
little mixture of it's half 
distilled water, half distilled 

1208
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,880
white vinegar with a little 
lemon essential oil and I bet we

1209
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,080
clean 90% of the stuff with 
that. 

1210
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,160
I mean that's really goes a long
ways and it's cheap and you 

1211
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,560
could drink it. 
I mean, it doesn't get more 

1212
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,440
natural than. 
That, yeah. 

1213
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Can vinegar kill mold? 
So it's not just about really 

1214
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,600
killing the mold, but it's a 
good, it does a good job of 

1215
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,720
cleaning it up. 
But high string, yeah, high 

1216
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:29,120
string vinegar can definitely 
kill off mold, diminish it, but 

1217
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,560
you wouldn't want to. 
Like if you have mold growing, 

1218
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,520
you just don't spray it with 
vinegar and let it sit. 

1219
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,000
You would use the vinegar 
solution to clean it up and wipe

1220
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,720
it up. 
I've heard that kitchens and 

1221
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,920
bathrooms tend to be the most 
toxic areas of the home in terms

1222
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,720
of chemical exposure because we 
store a lot of these cleaning 

1223
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,600
supplies at the kitchens and 
then in the bathrooms there's 

1224
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,760
the cleaning supplies. 
Then there's also the the 

1225
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,720
personal care products and the 
skin care products. 

1226
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,960
What impact does all of that 
have on air quality? 

1227
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,160
Yeah, it it creates a chemical 
soup, chemical mixture in the 

1228
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,160
home. 
And we breathe that in, 

1229
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,760
especially if our homes aren't 
breathing and not getting a lot 

1230
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,680
of air flow that can build up. 
And so you go into the laundry 

1231
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,720
room or the bathroom and the 
kitchen and you can smell it and

1232
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:09,600
you can smell there's something 
in here. 

1233
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,400
It's a combination of things. 
We breathe that in and it 

1234
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,960
affects our body. 
What about fragrance like 

1235
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,960
perfumes, even enclosed 
containers? 

1236
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,760
What impact do those have? 
Fragrances are kind of a 

1237
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
category that we want to stay 
away from just in general. 

1238
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,760
So anytime it says perfume or 
fragrance on the on the 

1239
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,400
ingredients, we kind of want to 
stay away from those because 

1240
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,520
they have the phthalates in 
them. 

1241
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,400
The endican disruptors mess with
the hormones we breathe that in 

1242
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,040
affects us negatively. 
So if it says essential oil then

1243
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,600
that's good as as a fragrance or
just the fragrance free stuff? 

1244
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,880
Yeah. 
And it's a protected term by the

1245
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,360
FDA. 
Companies do not have to 

1246
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,600
disclose what's in there. 
And so even if the bottles 

1247
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,640
closed, as we know, like when 
you walk through the cleaning 

1248
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,920
aisle or the skin care beauty 
aisle at the drugstore, you're 

1249
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,280
still smelling all of that 
stuff. 

1250
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,760
So those VOC's are still getting
into the air and causing us 

1251
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,280
harm. 
Yep. 

1252
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,040
You've also told me one time 
that the walls in our home are 

1253
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,000
kind of like our second, like 
the skin of our home. 

1254
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,320
Can you elaborate on that? 
Yeah. 

1255
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,480
So we have the environment of 
our cell and then we have the 

1256
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,920
environment of our body and kind
of the cell has a cell wall and 

1257
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,840
what's going on there is 
important and that's separate. 

1258
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,880
And then we have our body and 
everything going on inside of 

1259
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,440
our body is holding that in and 
this is a protective layer. 

1260
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,720
Then out here we have it's a 
nice environment. 

1261
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:29,800
So we don't need that second 
skin. 

1262
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,200
But if the weather wasn't good 
or if it was really windy or 

1263
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,520
stormy, we would want to have a 
house around us. 

1264
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,960
So that's like our second skin 
that protects us from the 

1265
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,680
outside environment. 
Now the stuff that gets inside 

1266
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:44,840
that environment gets in the 
body just like the stuff in the 

1267
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,040
body gets in our cells. 
So it's like this gradient. 

1268
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,920
So if we want to have a clean 
body, a clean cell, we want to 

1269
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,120
have a clean environment. 
So we don't want to bring things

1270
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,800
into the environment that we 
wouldn't put in our body or put 

1271
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,880
on our body. 
And if you can follow that rule,

1272
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,240
then you're 95% of the way 
there. 

1273
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,000
Let's talk about pesticides. 
How bad are conventional 

1274
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,440
pesticides really, and what are 
the natural alternatives? 

1275
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,640
So a lot of the more dangerous 
ones are known neurotoxins. 

1276
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,360
They're really bad for the 
brain. 

1277
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,200
Now some of the more natural 
ones use perethyrin, which is 

1278
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,120
from the. 
It's derived from the 

1279
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,760
Chrysanthemum plan. 
What is it called? 

1280
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,600
Perethium. 
Perethium. 

1281
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,480
I'm. 
Saying it wrong, I'm butchering 

1282
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,400
that. 
Yeah, something. 

1283
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,440
Something like that. 
Yeah. 

1284
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,640
And the problem with those, even
though they say, well, it's not 

1285
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,720
a neurotoxin, it's safe for us. 
Where it does really affect is 

1286
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,680
the gut Biome or little bugs 
inside of us. 

1287
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,080
So if it gets on surfaces our 
hands and we eat and we get that

1288
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,840
in our system, now we're killing
off our microbiome kind of like 

1289
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,920
antibiotics and we all know how 
important the microbiome is. 

1290
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,960
Yeah, I think for our house you 
noticed that we had a lot of 

1291
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,960
spiders in the backyard and you 
recommended something. 

1292
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,680
I think it was like an essential
oil based pesticide maybe. 

1293
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,760
Do you remember? 
Yeah, there is an essential oil 

1294
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,120
based one. 
Now, obviously it's not going to

1295
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,400
work as good as chemicals, but 
we'll repel them and we'll get 

1296
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,920
them away so we can douse around
the outside of the house really 

1297
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,480
good the property. 
And really once we start to 

1298
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,040
eliminate them and get them off,
then it's more about just 

1299
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,640
keeping them out and for people 
to have a really bad problem 

1300
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,560
like scorpions or black. 
What are the things that we 

1301
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,640
really don't want biting us? 
You can use more of the harsh 

1302
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,120
stuff in areas where you're not 
going to be walking. 

1303
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,120
So maybe you have bushes along 
the fence, go behind the Bush, 

1304
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,840
do the fence where you know 
you're not walking over there, 

1305
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,560
the kids aren't going over 
there, the dogs aren't going 

1306
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,680
over there. 
And then we use that as a 

1307
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,400
barrier. 
But you don't ever want to be 

1308
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,800
spraying this stuff inside your 
house or like on your patio 

1309
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,120
around the OOL area laces where 
you're going to be walking with 

1310
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,440
your feet and get it on the 
body. 

1311
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,600
I always think about this when 
I'm somewhere tropical, like at 

1312
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,600
a resort and there's no 
critters. 

1313
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,200
I'm like, I mean, I, I like 
that, but also they're probably 

1314
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,680
just dousing it and. 
Absolutely, yeah. 

1315
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,080
And they're tricky because you 
can't smell them, like you can't

1316
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,440
detect them just by, you know, 
surveying the property. 

1317
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,720
So you really sometimes I've 
even like called ahead and said 

1318
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,680
like, OK, please no spraying for
the weeks leading up to when 

1319
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,000
we're going to be there at 
least. 

1320
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,280
So I don't know how much that 
does. 

1321
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,320
If they do that, that's amazing.
They're probably like, yeah, 

1322
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,760
we'll do that. 
Or I've like turned them away. 

1323
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,600
Sometimes when I've seen them 
come with their sprayers, I'm 

1324
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,600
like Nope, just come back next 
week. 

1325
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,320
Yeah. 
And that's the thing. 

1326
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,640
If you don't see any signs of 
any wildlife, anything moving, 

1327
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,320
the the place is completely 
sterile. 

1328
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,800
They use a lot of chemicals to 
get in that space, kind of like 

1329
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,520
if you look at the lawn and 
there's zero weeds, it's like a 

1330
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,440
golf course. 
You'd probably don't want to 

1331
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,520
walk on that with your shoes on.
Yeah. 

1332
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,760
Have you ever told a client that
their living situation is not 

1333
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,400
salvageable and advise them to 
move? 

1334
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,240
Yes, I don't like doing that and
I'm very cautious of giving that

1335
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,640
advice because that's a big deal
to uproot your family. 

1336
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,120
But if they're truly in an 
environment where it's affecting

1337
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,600
their health and that's why they
called me out for, then yeah, I 

1338
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,280
will give that advice if I feel 
like there's not much we can do 

1339
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,720
for the house. 
What are some major red flags 

1340
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,680
that people should look for when
buying a new home? 

1341
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,400
Proximity to what is around the 
house, if you have high voltage 

1342
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,160
power lines, if you're next to a
golf course or agricultural 

1343
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,680
area, if you're downwind from a 
factory, airport nearby, freeway

1344
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,880
nearby, all of these things are 
high sources of pollution that 

1345
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,840
we just want to stay away from 
if we can. 

1346
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Yeah, everyone's talking about 
this golf course study. 

1347
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,520
I can't remember the details. 
Rich, do you have that info 

1348
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:18,720
pulled up? 
Yeah. 

1349
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:25,480
So they did a study, population 
based study that found out that 

1350
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,920
people have a higher risk of 
developing Parkinson's disease 

1351
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,760
if they live near a golf course.
How close do they have to be to 

1352
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,480
have that higher risk one mile? 
126 higher odds. 

1353
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,760
OK. 
So that seems significant. 

1354
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,920
Do do you think that's because 
of the water that they're 

1355
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,440
drinking that is has been 
contaminated by the pesticides 

1356
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,480
from the golf course or do you 
think it's because of the air? 

1357
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,160
Or both. 
It's definitely because of the 

1358
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,320
air. 
A lot of times our water is 

1359
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,120
coming from a city municipal. 
It's coming down the pipes, so 

1360
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,800
it's protected from stuff on the
outside. 

1361
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,280
It's the air. 
It's when they're spraying. 

1362
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,360
And that overspray goes into 
your yard, it goes onto your 

1363
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,760
lawn furniture, goes by your 
pool, on by your grill, their 

1364
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,680
table where you eat. 
And then you come out and you 

1365
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,920
sit on the. 
Stuff you lay on it or you could

1366
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,560
just breathe it in as they're 
spraying, but it's typically the

1367
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,360
residue that's being. 
And then also when water run 

1368
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,640
off, so the rain and runs off 
and if it goes on to your 

1369
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,240
property, then that's bringing 
all that. 

1370
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,200
Now if you have a dog, you go 
walk out on there. 

1371
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,080
You take walks yourself, then 
come back into your house and 

1372
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,320
you're not taking your shoes off
at the door and you're tracking 

1373
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,560
that stuff in your home. 
Now you just spread it all over 

1374
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,840
the place. 
OK, real quick elevator pitch on

1375
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,520
why people should not wear shoes
in the home. 

1376
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,400
Yeah, because you're walking 
through so much nasty stuff. 

1377
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Next time you're filling in your
car up with gas, look down on 

1378
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,400
the ground and look at the stuff
you're stepping in. 

1379
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,200
It's petroleum products, it's 
spit, it's oil, grease. 

1380
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,600
Now you got that on your shoes. 
Then you go into the public 

1381
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,600
bathroom and there's E coli in 
there and they're using toxic 

1382
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,680
chemicals. 
All that stuff is on your shoe. 

1383
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,040
Now you walk inside your house, 
walk on the carpet. 

1384
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,040
Somebody that I seen just 
kicking up their feet up on the 

1385
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,600
couch. 
It's ridiculous. 

1386
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,200
You're spreading all this stuff 
throughout your home. 

1387
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,480
You got to leave those shoes at 
the door. 

1388
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,760
You travel a lot. 
How do you take all of this into

1389
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,000
consideration when you're 
staying at hotels and Airbnb's? 

1390
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,640
I've realized that there's can 
be a good amount of hermetic 

1391
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,840
stress. 
We can have a little bit of 

1392
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,520
exposure to this if we have a 
clean environment at home. 

1393
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,680
So when I go back to my house, 
ultra clean environment where my

1394
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,440
body can heal and rest, and then
when I go out and travel, if I'm

1395
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,600
exposed a little bit one or two 
nights out of the month or 

1396
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,480
travel a little bit, it's not 
the end of the world. 

1397
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,760
My body can handle it. 
In fact, I want to have a little

1398
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,160
bit of exposure because I want 
my body to adapt. 

1399
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,200
If I was 100% in a clean 
environment, my body would be 

1400
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,560
more desensitized to this stuff.
And so by having a little bit of

1401
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,360
exposure to this makes my body 
stronger and makes me adapt. 

1402
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,760
Are there any things that you do
that some people may think is 

1403
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880
like overboard, but it's 
important to you to protect 

1404
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,560
yourself when you're not at home
and you are traveling? 

1405
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,120
I think like when I go into a 
hotel room, I'm always checking 

1406
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,120
to make sure there's more, like 
looking at the toilet tank. 

1407
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,480
I'm opening the windows, if I 
can get in the fresh air out of 

1408
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,800
there as much as possible, like 
the little lights that blink, 

1409
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,680
you know, covering those up. 
So we're getting a good sleep 

1410
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,480
environment. 
Yeah, You use the electrical 

1411
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,360
tape, right? 
Yeah, I started doing that too. 

1412
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,800
Yep, that's a good one because 
there's so many lights. 

1413
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,400
That drives me crazy. 
Yeah, in. 

1414
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,600
Other words, when you're laying 
in bed and you got that green 

1415
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,120
flashing light every couple 
seconds, you know, right? 

1416
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,880
Or the light coming in from even
the hallway, like all stuffed 

1417
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,520
pillows over there, because it's
like a tiny crack, but it's so 

1418
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,800
bright in the hallway that it 
can light up the room a lot 

1419
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,400
sometimes. 
Yeah, and a lot of time I bring 

1420
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,840
my own food too. 
That's another big one. 

1421
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,400
Like hotel breakfast food is 
greasy and all that stuff. 

1422
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,360
So I bring my own protein bars 
or whatever, bring my own food. 

1423
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,000
You know, what drives me insane 
is scented hotel lobbies. 

1424
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,360
Like this is a big problem. 
It's, it's so offensive. 

1425
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,080
Like we, we do a lot of 
travelling, especially over the 

1426
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,520
summer. 
We take a road trip every year. 

1427
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,600
And so we're kind of staying, I 
mean, we stay at some really 

1428
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,840
awesome places, but a lot of the
places we're staying are kind of

1429
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,520
like run-of-the-mill places in 
these bigger cities in like 

1430
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,040
middle America. 
And so we'll go into like 

1431
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,840
Sheraton, for example. 
Oh my gosh, their lobbies are 

1432
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,080
the worst. 
Like they, I'm, I smell like the

1433
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,680
lobby after I leave the hotel. 
It's out of control. 

1434
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,880
And I guess they do this to like
make you, I don't know, try to 

1435
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,080
make you feel good maybe or like
create some nostalgia. 

1436
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,880
But it's, it's doing the 
opposite for me. 

1437
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:23,680
It is. 
Yeah. 

1438
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,760
Yeah. 
And Ubers too. 

1439
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,160
Yeah, Ubers, they're horrible 
smells, Yeah. 

1440
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,800
Did you ever use scents to 
manipulate environments when you

1441
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,480
were doing that? 
No, but we would make sure that 

1442
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,160
there wasn't a bad smell. 
So like sometimes bar smell can 

1443
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,760
get pretty nasty. 
So make sure that's really 

1444
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,000
clean. 
We want a neutral smell really 

1445
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,480
in an environment, want to have 
it one way or the other. 

1446
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,800
It should be very neutral. 
Yeah, whenever I smell a strong 

1447
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,680
fragrance, I just think like, 
what are you hiding? 

1448
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,960
Exactly. 
What are you trying to cover up 

1449
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,040
exactly? 
Just make it clean and you don't

1450
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,400
have to worry about it. 
For anyone who may be feeling 

1451
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,720
overwhelmed, what are the three 
most important steps that people

1452
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,160
can take to create a healthier 
home starting today? 

1453
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,080
I was, well, I would say clean 
water, clean air, clean food, 

1454
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,200
clean thoughts. 
If you can do those four things,

1455
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,040
you're way ahead of the game. 
And so just be conscious of of 

1456
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,200
the things that you're putting 
in your body and on your body 

1457
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,840
and around your body and just 
educate yourself a little bit 

1458
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,120
and then work from where you're 
at. 

1459
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,080
Don't think that you have to do 
everything high level right now.

1460
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,440
Even me, there's ways I can 
improve. 

1461
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,960
It's just like fitness or 
nutrition. 

1462
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,520
You can always do things better,
but just as long as you're 

1463
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,160
making small improvements every 
day, that's what matters. 

1464
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,120
Then look at the decisions 
you're making every day. 

1465
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,960
You're either making getting 
yourself more healthy or you're 

1466
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,200
hurting your health. 
Even what you put in your mouth,

1467
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,920
the food, the thoughts, all of 
these things. 

1468
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,840
So be really conscious of that 
and just making sure that is 

1469
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,120
this thing that I'm doing, is it
helping me to be more healthy or

1470
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,640
is it taken away from my health 
and be thinking about that and 

1471
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,560
conscious and that right there 
is really the best that you can 

1472
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,880
do. 
That's good advice. 

1473
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,000
And even like with us, you know,
working with you fairly closely,

1474
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,440
there's things that I mean not, 
not that you've missed them, but

1475
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,920
that we haven't consulted you 
on. 

1476
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,960
Like you mentioned the clue with
the cabinets and I'm like, Dang 

1477
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:04,280
it, like we definitely used just
regular glue for the cabinets. 

1478
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,160
But I like that perspective a 
lot. 

1479
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,560
Like it's never going to be 
completely perfect, but when 

1480
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,000
you're on that path and trying 
to, you know, make as many clean

1481
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,760
swaps as you can and do things 
the right way as much as 

1482
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,760
possible, everything's going to 
have an impact. 

1483
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,920
And we kind of look at skin care
in the same way and how we take 

1484
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,960
care of our bodies. 
Like you don't have to purge 

1485
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,560
everything immediately. 
You can. 

1486
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,000
And some people can do that and,
you know, mentally take on that 

1487
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,760
challenge, but it's not for 
everyone. 

1488
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,280
And so it's better to just make 
small changes over time than to 

1489
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,600
just feel defeated and like just
give up on it completely. 

1490
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,320
Exactly. 
Yeah, 100%. 

1491
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,960
Ryan, thanks for your time 
today. 

1492
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,840
Where can people find you and 
learn more about you and work 

1493
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,600
with you if they're interested? 
Yeah, testmyhome.com, just go to

1494
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,560
our website. 
It's pretty straightforward 

1495
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,920
there. 
You can book a call with me. 

1496
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,560
And then really that's the most 
effective way to start is we'll 

1497
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,920
get on a Zoom call and we'll go 
through your house and we'll 

1498
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,360
just kind of go through all the 
things and make sure that you're

1499
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,800
making the right decision and 
make sure we're dealing with the

1500
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,120
easy stuff, the low hanging 
fruit, the stuff that doesn't 

1501
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,920
take a lot of time or cost a lot
of money or change the 

1502
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,360
convenience factor. 
And let's start with those 

1503
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,440
first. 
Then of course, we can always 

1504
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,720
come out in person and do the 
full walkthrough of your home. 

1505
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,760
But if you're building a home 
like you guys are doing, help 

1506
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,280
working with the contractor, the
builder to make sure we're 

1507
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,800
making right decisions. 
There's simple things we can 

1508
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,160
swap out that really don't cost 
a lot of money or don't change 

1509
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,960
the whole outlook of the way 
that we're building the home. 

1510
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,680
And then we have our Instagram 
channel, it's at Test My Home. 

1511
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,680
So really those are the 2 main 
sources. 

1512
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,080
Awesome. 
You're the best. 

1513
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,000
Thank you so much. 
Thanks. 

1514
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,840
For having me this is great of. 
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1515
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,600
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1516
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,040
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1517
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,920
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1518
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,280
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