1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,920 Where we're spending more on healthcare than any other 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,520 country in the world, and yet we are the sickest. 3 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:09,680 Today on Grounded Wellness, I'm joined by my friend Alex Clark, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,280 host of the Culture Apothecary podcast. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Alex is known for passionately challenging the Wellness 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,120 narratives that most women have been sold. 60 to 70% of children 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,920 are eating a diet primarily of ultra processed food. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,120 Their palates are completely. Warped. 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,600 She speaks boldly on everything from birth control and informed 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,600 consent to raw milk and the ongoing fight against pesticides 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,400 in America. We're talking about 10,000 or so 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,160 chemicals that are allowed in the United States and our food 13 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:40,960 that are not allowed elsewhere, Alex. 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Shares about her history with Botox and fillers, how she's 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,200 planning on raising her future kids, and what her life actually 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,960 looks like when the cameras are off. 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,320 But I didn't even know I was feeling sick. 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Some of these women that have severe Botox poisoning, their 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,560 life is ruined. This episode offers a real 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,080 glimpse behind the curtains. It's very scary when the White 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,960 House is Maddie. One of the top scariest feelings 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:10,560 I've ever felt. Let's dig in really quick before 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,840 we dive in. We love getting your feedback. 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,800 So please take a second to leave a comment and tell us that your 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,400 favorite topics that we've covered or guests that you want 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,880 to see on the show in the future. 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,960 Also, by reviewing, liking and subscribing, you'll never miss a 28 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:27,160 single episode and we get to keep providing you with this ad 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,960 free podcast. OK, without further ado, let's 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,600 let's get back into it. OK? 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Alex, I told you I have a surprise for you, so close your 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,320 eyes. I brought you something. 33 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,320 Do. I need to have my. 34 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:41,080 Hands out. Yeah, put your hands out. 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,080 OK, I brought you gluten free seed oil free. 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,360 No way. Cast your bird chicken Nuggets 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,000 for the Chicken Nugget Princess. Holy crap, right now. 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,920 It has been so long. Can I really eat this? 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Yeah, it has been so long. What's this sauce? 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,600 So that's honey mustard. Homemade honey mustard with 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,320 honey from the farm. Clean mustard. 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Oh my gosh. You like them? 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,919 You're bringing me back. This is. 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,000 When's the last time you had a chicken nugget? 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Years. Have you had any healthy ones 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,160 yet? No, because I can't find any 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,560 healthy ones. All of the healthy ones, at 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,120 least if they're pre made or pre packaged. 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,320 They all have seed oils. Yeah, these are so good. 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,160 OK, well meet up and make it so. My brother-in-law did it. 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,680 He makes this often and he made it the other night and I was 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,120 like I need you to make these for Alex when she comes to the 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,080 farm. These are the best chicken I've 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,400 ever had. Wow, Chick-fil-A. 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Whoa, OK, that's big. Feel free to keep munching and 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,920 for anyone who isn't familiar with Alex and her journey, she 57 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,760 was formerly the Chicken Nugget Princess, ate a standard 58 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,520 American diet, lived a conventional lifestyle for most 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,800 of her life, and now she has one of the most popular health and 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,680 Wellness podcasts on the Internet. 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,640 Alex, you are truly walking the walk in your everyday life. 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Is there anything that you miss about your past life as the 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,880 Chicken Nugget Princess? When I think of my life BM 64 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,800 before ma ha, you know, I don't miss anything. 65 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,800 But people ask, you know, do you miss eating that food? 66 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,920 Do you miss going to Chick-fil-A five times a week? 67 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:18,200 Do you miss Doctor Pepper? Dr. Pepper? 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Maybe not Mr. Pibb. I could get a hankering, you 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,560 know, twice a year. I usually allow myself like 2 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,080 Mr. Pibbs a year. I think I did 3 last year, but I 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,800 really don't miss anything when I eat that food now. 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,760 It doesn't taste like food. I mean, and I, I haven't 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,880 honestly tried it, but when I even think about eating it, so 74 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,360 nasty to me. I mean, when you think about 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Chick-fil-A, even the ingredients of the Chick-fil-A 76 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,520 sandwich, they've got ingredients in there that are 77 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,680 basically Silly Putty the kids play with. 78 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,320 I mean, that's not food. So, so my brain knows that and I 79 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,280 just do not desire or crave it at all. 80 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,720 What I do miss is the convenience. 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Obviously I travel a lot, I'm working a lot, I'm filming for 82 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,760 long days for my show. It's like when I'm driving home, 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,320 it's very tempting and easy. Like man, I wish I could just 84 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,040 swing through a drive through right now. 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Instead, I'm going home. I am dog tired and I am putting 86 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,520 together a meal and then I got to wait, you know, 30 minutes to 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,200 eat or whatever that isn't convenient. 88 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,000 It takes time, it requires patience and it also requires 89 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,200 self-discipline that I know that I'm going home and I'm going to 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,040 make my food instead of going and buying it out. 91 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,760 And so I think that's what I miss if I had to choose 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,400 something. Have you started doing pot 93 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,840 roasts yet? No. 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,280 And that's funny you bring that up because you have like, this 95 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:37,480 award-winning pot roast. I mean, it's so simple, it's 96 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,840 crazy. Like there's not anything 97 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:41,480 special about it honestly. See, my problem is when I'm 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,840 buying a crock pot, I don't know what is actually non-toxic. 99 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,280 Yeah, I'm not even sure what brand ours is. 100 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,440 It's ceramic though, and I think our place has a good one. 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Yeah. So I need to get a crock pot and 102 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,120 then I just, you just throw in these ingredients in the morning 103 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,960 and then it's ready. Throw in the roast, throw in 104 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,280 some carrots, some onions, some potatoes, like 2 cups of water, 105 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:01,320 salt. That's it. 106 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Now water. Or could we elevate it with some 107 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,760 beef bone? Yes, I mean that would be even 108 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,160 better. I think that's what I would 109 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,000 probably. But if you do a bone in roast, 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,040 if you just add the water, even that does kind of create the 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,240 brothy experience. See, that's what I need to do. 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 I need those little tips and tricks, which I think once I'm 113 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,000 married with kids, I think those are the things that I'll figure 114 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,160 out. It's a little bit different when 115 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,040 it's only me. But yeah, if I'm trying to plan 116 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,560 for multiple kids, I can't just wait till I get home and then 117 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,600 figure out what am I going to eat. 118 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,520 You know it's easier to make a plate for one person or two, but 119 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,640 that's about it. Yeah, I mean, it's seven. 120 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,360 I timed it one time, 7 minutes in the morning. 121 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,840 By the end of the day, you have meals for the whole family. 122 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,600 And even if it was just you eating, you could put the rest, 123 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,800 you know, save the rest and heat it up the next night or 124 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,960 whatever. But I want to know what your 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,040 diet looked like back then? Like how bad was it really? 126 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,080 And what does your diet look like now? 127 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,360 Like what foods are you loving and gravitating towards now as a 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,760 healthy eater? In high school I would go 129 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,480 through the line and I would take like 6 or 7 Rice Krispie 130 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,480 treats and I would get a red 40 fruit punch, Hawaiian punch shop 131 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,120 and that was my lunch. No. 132 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,400 That's all. I would eat all day. 133 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,360 Wow. And I would go home and I would 134 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,720 crash. I would sleep for two to three 135 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,640 hours, wake up in time for dinner and then maybe, I don't 136 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,440 know, get on my computer or or watch a show or something. 137 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,280 I'd watch Gossip Girl and then I would go to bed and then I would 138 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:20,560 start all over again. And that was that was how I 139 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 sustained myself. I mean, it was it, it wasn't 140 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,720 sustaining myself. I was absolutely crashing out. 141 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Had no idea why I was so tired and just didn't eat enough and 142 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,640 also just didn't even eat food. And once I had moved out of my 143 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,880 parents house and I was living on my own for the first time, I 144 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 had no idea how to cook. It was me going to the grocery 145 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,200 store and this is what I would get. 146 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,840 I would get multiple cans of Pillsbury cinnamon rolls, fish 147 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:49,320 sticks, loved fish sticks, pigs in a blanket that were already 148 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,400 premade prepackaged with like a little Crescent roll around them 149 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:56,240 and some Chips Ahoy cookies. And that was what I would have 150 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,360 for dinner. Oh my gosh, OK, this is worse 151 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,120 than I thought. I thought I was bad. 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,520 I would, I had like my, my mom would cook sometimes and we had 153 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,240 a lot of time and we had semi nourishing foods, I'm sure laden 154 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,800 with seed oils and gluten and stuff. 155 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,400 But then I would have all these like little treats that I loved. 156 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Like after swim practice, I would come home and make an Ice 157 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Cream Sandwich with mint chip ice cream in between two Eggo 158 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,000 waffles. And that was like my after 159 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,480 school snack. But I was still eating like some 160 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,440 nourishing things, you know, some some meat and stuff for 161 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,280 dinner. I have that. 162 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,520 Because my mom would always cook homemade meals. 163 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,640 I mean, but we definitely didn't know as a family at that time, 164 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,280 we didn't know anything about GMO's. 165 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,280 We thought organic was a scam. It was just a way to overpriced 166 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,120 food, you know? And I think a lot of America 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,640 still thinks that about organic food. 168 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,000 And so I would get a good dinner. 169 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,800 I would usually skip breakfast though, or I would take a pop 170 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,640 tart to school. I would take a brown sugar 171 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,920 cinnamon pop tart. That's the only. 172 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Part Did you ever do the the toaster strudels the. 173 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Pill cherry, I didn't like that because you know what, those 174 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,320 were too healthy for me because they had the fruit filling and I 175 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,240 hate I still to this day, I don't like I'm not a fruit. 176 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Oh my gosh. And so I wouldn't do toaster 177 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,360 strudels. I was like, that's nasty. 178 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,440 That's healthy fruit. And so then I would do the. 179 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,040 Pop tarts so funny. OK, So what does your diet look 180 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,760 like now? Now I make like this 5060 gram 181 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,400 protein beauty smoothie in the morning every day. 182 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,120 It's got two different scoops of protein powder in there. 183 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,160 I've got collagen powder, goji Berry powder, raw beet powder, 184 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,360 pumpkin pie spice. There is avocado, of course, a 185 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,640 bunch of frozen fruits, strawberries, Peaches, 186 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 pineapples, cherries. There is. 187 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:38,880 I mean, I can't even. There's 100 million little 188 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,880 supplements and electrolytes and things I put in this thing. 189 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,720 It's absolutely. Not a lot going on. 190 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,200 This is not realistic for most people but again, I'm single, 191 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,480 have no kids, have time on my hands and and and money to spare 192 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,280 so I just do this special smoothie thing. 193 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,600 I'm sure I will tweak it as life goes on and chapters change but 194 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,760 that's how I start my day. Lunch. 195 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,320 I'm still bad about eating lunch because what ends up happening 196 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,600 is I'm filming or something through lunch and I often times 197 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,320 skip it. I need to get better about that. 198 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,280 I've got people in my ear telling me, make sure you're 199 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,320 eating lunch. I'm really working on getting 200 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,600 three meals a day in. And if I am eating lunch, 201 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,040 usually, like, I'll go to the store. 202 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,920 And this is another thing that I do that's kind of bad. 203 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,360 So people want to know, like, what is Alex Clark doing that's 204 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,960 not totally clean? And what I do is I love a 205 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,160 rotisserie chicken. Sue me. 206 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:29,120 Soaking up the microplastics like it's a hot tub and I, I eat 207 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,800 that. So I love a rotisserie chicken. 208 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,920 I, I RIP it all up. I put it in the fridge. 209 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,200 I put that in a lunch. I get, you know, applesauce or 210 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,200 apples and, and cashews and I put together a little thing. 211 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,000 So I usually take that for lunch and then for dinner, that's when 212 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,120 I try to do something a little bit better. 213 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,160 You know, I've got sauerkraut or asparagus or carrots or 214 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,640 something, some sort of vegetable or a couple 215 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,920 vegetables, Potatoes roasted in the oven. 216 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Love a little paprika, even some cinnamon and honey situation on 217 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,360 sweet potatoes that's so good. Salt and pepper. 218 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,600 And then I pick some kind of protein. 219 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,360 It could be steak, it could be it could be chicken thighs. 220 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:13,920 I love a crispy chicken thigh salmon or even, you know, some 221 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,800 hamburger patties that I just, I just whip up and season really 222 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,640 well. It's very, very simple dinners 223 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,360 and meals because I am out and about and working a lot. 224 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,440 If it's a Saturday or Sunday and I have some extra time, then 225 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,280 I'll like take out a recipe book and I'll be creative and try 226 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,440 something new. But, you know, eating healthy, I 227 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,160 thought it was going to be super complicated and it, it really 228 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,640 isn't just having, you know, a healthy fat on the plate. 229 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,520 You know, obviously I'm cooking and only butter or olive oil 230 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,360 duck fat. I love duck fat on potato, 231 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,880 potatoes, beef tallow, That's what I'm using to cook with. 232 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,120 And then, you know, sourdough bread. 233 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Sometimes I try to get some freshly milled sourdough bread 234 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,040 and I'll do a bunch of grass fed butter on that. 235 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,480 And then having something fermented, having a vegetable, 236 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,280 you know, having fiber, whatever. 237 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,120 And then I do at the end. Love to cap it all off with some 238 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,960 Strauss organic gluten free cookies and cream ice cream. 239 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,360 OK, that's my time. I mean, that sounds very similar 240 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,000 to our dinners. It's always like a protein, a 241 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,080 veggie, maybe like a potato or a rice for a carb. 242 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,880 And we do fermented foods as well. 243 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,120 So it's really not that complicated for people that are 244 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,000 unsure of what to eat when they start eating healthy and you 245 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,520 just kind of start craving protein, especially if you're 246 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,200 doing protein every meal, you feel a difference afterwards 247 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,280 when you are filling up on that and making that kind of the the 248 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,680 prime staple of of your meals. So I love that. 249 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,440 I would say the most frequent protein that I'm making is lamb 250 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,520 chops. Really. 251 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,360 I have never even tried cooking a lamb chop. 252 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,160 I feel like that's intimidating. No, because this is what I love 253 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,800 about it. It's so fast. 254 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,680 It's the fastest protein that you can make. 255 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,560 So you serious? Yeah. 256 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:53,600 You just get these individual lamb chops here it and I coat 257 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,280 them. You want them to sit out for 258 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,320 like 20-30 minutes, that you want them to be room 259 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,000 temperature. And then you just seize them 260 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,080 with salt, pepper, thyme and Rosemary and some garlic powder. 261 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,200 And then you just put them like 4 minutes on each side. 262 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,720 You want them to be about 140° kind of rare. 263 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 And it it's so quick to make. I mean, you can make these in 264 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,160 like, I don't know, 10-12 minutes. 265 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,440 OK, I love that because that's like my kids favorite food at 266 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,040 restaurants. They always order the lamb chops 267 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,160 and the waitress is like, are you are you serious? 268 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,000 You want to see the kids menu? They're like, no, we want the 269 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,240 lamb chops. So that's a family favorite. 270 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,280 And I I think you've inspired me to start cooking it at home. 271 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,560 So was it knowledge or health issues that made you decide to 272 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:34,040 go all in on healthy eating? It was knowledge and I think 273 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,440 that's pretty unique for people that kind of come into this and 274 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,760 and want to start living this more non-toxic healthy life. 275 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,800 It usually is. You were super sick. 276 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,560 You know, something was really be wrong and you were desperate 277 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,040 for answers, which is the case for most of the people that I 278 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,720 interview on my show. But for me, I was so ignorant. 279 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,800 And even as a conservative, I grew up in a openly conservative 280 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,440 family. You know, we were so used to 281 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,840 questioning all of these other industries or institutions. 282 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Like, you know, we question mainstream media. 283 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 We questioned big tech, we questioned the Department of 284 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Education and the advice that they were giving. 285 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,040 But none of us ever questioned pharma or food during the 286 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,080 pandemic when we were mandated to take the vaccine. 287 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:17,240 I was so disturbed by that. And I was standard American diet 288 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,640 had always said my kids will be fully vaccinated. 289 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,640 They'll be going to public school. 290 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,640 I don't want them to be weirdo homeschool kids. 291 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,320 You know, I had when it came to those sort of decisions, a very 292 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,680 stereotypical way of thinking about it. 293 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:34,520 I, I was absolutely not in the camp that I am in now and I, I 294 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,480 would have thought that who I am now was a crazy person. 295 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,920 And so I wanted to know if the FDA had ever been wrong before 296 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,400 on just different advice that they had given or saying that a 297 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,920 certain pharmaceutical product was safe or medical product was 298 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,160 safe. And of course, they had been 299 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,440 multiple times. And one of the biggest ones that 300 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,920 stood out to me was what had happened with Oxycontin. 301 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,600 And I'm reading about Oxycontin, the Purdue Pharma scandal and 302 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,000 how, you know, all of these people knew that it was 303 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,680 addictive, even though they were marketing it as the first non 304 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:11,840 addictive opioid. And at the same time that I'm 305 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,080 learning all of this, this show Dope Sick comes out on Hulu and 306 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,560 it was award-winning. It was such a fantastic show. 307 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:21,160 And it was, you know, actors portraying the real story of the 308 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Oxycontin, Purdue Pharma scandal. 309 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,040 And I'm watching this like this is the greatest American true 310 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Crime Story ever told. Blown away by this. 311 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,160 Like how, how did I not know this story? 312 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,840 I, I feel so stupid, you know, and so many years you're taking 313 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,480 these products and you're thinking they're safe. 314 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,320 And so I just kept digging and I wanted to know what else, what 315 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,760 else have I assumed in my life has absolutely no consequences, 316 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,560 no risks, no side effects. And it led me to hormonal birth 317 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,760 control. And so I'm looking into hormonal 318 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,360 birth control and I'm learning about that. 319 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,200 My mind is getting blown and I'm sharing that with my audience 320 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,680 and their minds are blown because like me, they were, they 321 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,440 also a lot of them were conservative, really trusted 322 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,440 pharma and food and just didn't think, you know, anything of it. 323 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,960 Like if it's being sold in a grocery store, surely it's safe. 324 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,120 That was my thinking. Well, there's got to be so many, 325 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:16,360 so many rules and standards and things that are the food being 326 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,040 sold to us has to go through. Could not believe that we're 327 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,120 talking about 10,000 or so chemicals that are allowed in 328 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,480 the United States and our food that are not loud allowed 329 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:31,040 elsewhere. And I just start listening to 330 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,920 every podcast that I can listen to on this reading every book 331 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,320 I'm reading about Monsanto and the American Beverage 332 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Association and all of these different lobbying groups and, 333 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,520 and, and companies. And I just felt like I need to 334 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,560 completely change my life. I went through, I remember this 335 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,120 vividly. It was one day, I think I, I 336 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,000 waited till I had a Saturday. So I had a full day at home and 337 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,960 I went through every single cupboard in my kitchen and I 338 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,600 took out every single thing that was non stick Teflon. 339 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,920 I took out every single thing that had seed oils or food dye 340 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,440 or wasn't organic. And I mean, that was everything 341 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,720 I had. I had garbage bags that I was 342 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,400 taking to the trash room in my apartment complex. 343 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,760 And I went to the container store and I went to, you know, 344 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Target and, and Whole Foods and I just completely redid my 345 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,520 entire kitchen from the pots and pans that I had to the, to the 346 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,400 not plastic Ware, but to the, to the baking Ware or the utensils. 347 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,640 And the food that I had that was, you know, in my freezer or, 348 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,600 or it pantry food, you know, noodles, spices. 349 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,880 I even did redid my entire spice drawer, the flour that I was 350 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,600 cooking with. I, I really went all in. 351 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,760 And that's just my personality. Yeah, I was going to say, you're 352 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,240 probably like part of the point, 1% of people that actually do 353 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,240 that all at once. So, people. 354 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Don't and and nor am I saying people have to do it this way. 355 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,640 This is who I am. I'm either all in on something 356 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,200 or I'm out. I'm very when I make a decision, 357 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,000 I'm very decisive and I stick with it and I dig my heels in 358 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,280 and there's nobody that could possibly change my mind. 359 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,440 No, I love that. That sounds like how I was with 360 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,800 my bathroom once I started learning about the toxins in 361 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,520 household products, skin care products, personal care 362 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,480 products. Same. 363 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,160 I always thought that everything in the store, there were checks 364 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,000 and balances in place and that everything had been tested for 365 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,319 safety and purity. And then learning that wasn't 366 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:20,960 the case was like a poof, like light bulb moment for me. 367 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,079 And I was all in kind of like you. 368 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:26,520 Yeah. And so, you know, I spent a lot 369 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,800 of money doing that, but then I was like, OK, I've got now all I 370 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,760 have to do. It was easier for me to just go 371 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,040 all in and spend a lot upfront so that when I start to run out 372 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,000 of things, whatever, then I'm just replacing here and there. 373 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,440 I wanted a clean slate. That's what I felt. 374 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,720 I felt dirty, I felt used, I felt lied to. 375 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,400 I felt manipulated by these corrupt government standards and 376 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,120 I wanted out. I was opting out and I wanted to 377 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:55,880 start fresh and give myself a clean slate to start over on. 378 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,560 And and so I did, and I signed up for this box meal prep 379 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,920 service that like, gives you a recipe with pictures of how to 380 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,560 do things. Because that was the other thing 381 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,640 I realized. I don't know where my food comes 382 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,200 from. And when you don't know where 383 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,280 your food comes from, you have no stake in what you're eating, 384 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,440 pun intended. Like, you know, it matters how 385 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,440 it's being farmed, how it's being raised, and all of that, 386 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,760 you know, contributes to what you're eating and the quality of 387 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,600 what you're eating. And so I had questions, but 388 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,920 first I knew I needed to learn how to cook and I didn't know. 389 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,520 So I, my idea was to get this box and use the step by step 390 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,600 directions. And it worked. 391 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,800 I wouldn't recommend those box services. 392 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Now I got to find one that's truly regenerative organic seed 393 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:41,920 oil free. I'm still looking. 394 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,800 If it exists out there, you should contact me and let me 395 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,880 know. But I used this one and, and 396 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,840 that was how I got the confidence to say, OK, now I can 397 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,360 look at any recipe online or in a cookbook and I can follow that 398 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,200 and I have the confidence to keep cooking. 399 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,840 And I think that is a problem most people in America have. 400 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,840 They lack education on cooking and they lack confidence. 401 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,200 We don't, you know, we don't have home at classes anymore and 402 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,080 and everybody's doordashing. In fact, they're going into debt 403 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,240 to DoorDash. They're using Klarna. 404 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,000 No, Yeah, that's an option for door. 405 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,200 Action. Yeah, you can. 406 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Literally put, you know, on a pay pay system to pay off. 407 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,920 It's like the IT. Like breaks it into chunks and 408 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,000 then you pay monthly. That is crazy. 409 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,360 No, it's I. Didn't know that absurd, 410 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,600 straight up absurd. And so that's how America is 411 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,840 eating now. And and so I just wanted to 412 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,240 completely redo my life. And so I have been doing this, I 413 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,640 would say hardcore, like really all in for the last two years. 414 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,720 And do you feel better? Like I know you said it was more 415 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,720 knowledge, not health issues that made you, that prompted you 416 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,480 to make these changes. But now that you're doing it, 417 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,080 are you like, oh, this is how I'm supposed to feel? 418 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,080 Versus like, you know how, how you describe before you were 419 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,200 eating like a lot of carbs, didn't have that, didn't have 420 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,400 that sustained energy from eating like whole balanced 421 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,440 meals. Nine day difference from how I 422 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,440 felt before and and here's what's interesting. 423 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,200 So I didn't I was sick and I was feeling sick, but I didn't even 424 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,680 know that I was I thought that that was normal because it was 425 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,200 common and I felt it everyday. So until you completely opt out 426 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,120 of this system and you break free from these chains, you 427 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:22,440 don't realize you're sick. And that's how 70% of America 428 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,720 is, is that they are so sick. They, they have brain fog, 429 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,280 they're tired, they're, they're achy and have no energy and 430 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,840 sleep like crap. And they think this is normal, 431 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,880 this is common, or it's just part of getting older. 432 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,360 It's not. This is an exclusively American 433 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,040 feeling. And so once I totally changed my 434 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,560 life, then I noticed the difference. 435 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,640 And then the light bulb went on that I, I was totally messed up 436 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,200 before. And I would say now I'm still on 437 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,280 the journey, I'm still learning. I'm, you know, I'm interviewing 438 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,000 people and I'm learning new things every day and trying to 439 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,080 figure out what I should implement. 440 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,280 Worlds away, still have much to improve. 441 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,640 When I first made these changes, I think at first I was almost 442 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,120 too hyper vigilant. I had like really shrunk down 443 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,520 what was an option for me to eat because I was trying to figure 444 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,920 out like what was causing problems. 445 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,520 And not like no gluten, no eggs, no dairy, no this I, I had like 446 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280 3 things to choose from to eat and I don't think that I was 447 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,680 eating enough. And so I wasn't feeling better. 448 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,920 I was opting out of bad food, but then I wasn't totally 449 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,600 feeling better because I wasn't eating enough. 450 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,880 And so it's been kind of the last year, I would say the last 451 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,640 year has been me re strategizing and figuring out the right foods 452 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080 to eat as well as the right amount to be eating. 453 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,720 Yeah, I think a lot of women struggle with just eating enough 454 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,400 on a day-to-day basis. Forget like ultra processed food 455 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,000 versus real food, all of it. In general, I don't think 456 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,520 American women on average, especially busy moms, are eating 457 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,960 enough. And I think it's normal to 458 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,200 continue to make tweaks and figure out what works for you, 459 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,440 especially in different seasons. I mean, I'm, I don't know, about 460 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,120 15 years in to eating healthy and ditching processed foods, 461 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:56,800 I'm still making little tweaks here and there. 462 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,440 So I think that's like kind of a lifelong thing. 463 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,000 And it's important to tune in and figure out, OK, what does my 464 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,960 body need? What is my, what am I missing? 465 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,960 What do I need more of in this season? 466 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,040 What should I avoid right now? Not that you have to like stress 467 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,240 about it and be neurotic about it, but just kind of assessing 468 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,840 that to assess it. You have to kind of change 469 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760 things up if you're breastfeeding versus not 470 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,440 breastfeeding, right? So there's different things like 471 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,600 that that I think you have to take into consideration. 472 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,720 You're now one of the main people spearheading the Maha 473 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,560 movement. In your opinion, is Maha doing 474 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,040 what you hoped it would do? Are there any big wins or 475 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,760 potential disappointments that you've had with Maha so far? 476 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,840 There's been a lot of big wins. There has also been some 477 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,320 significant disappointments. Big wins. 478 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Obviously phasing food die out, that's been huge. 479 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,000 Looking into baby formula with Operation Stork Speed. 480 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,840 We have states that are banning fluoride from their water 481 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,480 supply. We're going to be starting to 482 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,600 put labels in grocery stores on ultra processed food like Danger 483 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,040 labels. We're also getting soda off of 484 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,480 SNAP. That's been big. 485 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,080 We've had a lot of states commit to no ultra processed food in 486 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,880 school lunches, revamping school lunch in different schools, of 487 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,080 course, revamping the dietary guidelines, that that's got to 488 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,200 be one of the biggest. And, and another thing that's 489 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,680 really exciting and super cool is a lot of people don't realize 490 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,400 this now, but they are, they've redone our military food. 491 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Our men and women on military bases were actually leaving and 492 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,640 going and getting fast food because the food that we were 493 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,200 serving our soldiers was so utterly disgusting, unedible. 494 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,560 It was so bad that they were like, I guess we're going to 495 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,160 McDonald's. And that's how our soldiers who 496 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,320 are defending our rights are eating. 497 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,760 And, and, and you've got like 70% of young men are not 498 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,480 eligible for the military now because of a different chronic 499 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,280 disease, autoimmune disorders, obesity. 70%. 500 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Yes, nearly 70% of young men in America are not eligible for 501 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,800 military. That is a national security 502 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,680 issue. So this problem that we have 503 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,880 with food in America really touches is everything poverty, 504 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,880 our military, you know, our kids, how much they're able to 505 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,160 to retain and learn in a school setting. 506 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,680 It affects everything about American life. 507 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,600 And of course, just the health crisis that we're in where we're 508 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,840 spending more on healthcare than any other country in the world. 509 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,440 And yet we are the sickest. I think anyone that follows me 510 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,640 and has been listening to me for the last couple months knows, 511 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,920 you know, the biggest I think mistake and backward step that 512 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,160 we took was this executive order protecting glyphosate as a, as a 513 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,520 national security issue. And glyphosate is a pesticide 514 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,560 that is sprayed on our crops and food. 515 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,760 You cannot wash it off. You cannot rinse it off. 516 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,200 It's it's on there. And what was the rationale 517 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,040 behind that executive order exactly? 518 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,320 I think the rationale is if glyphosate were to be banned, 519 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,840 our entire food system would collapse, which I agree with. 520 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,960 That's absolutely true. You can't ban it overnight. 521 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,360 You've got to, to pump in probably we're looking at about 522 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,000 two or $3 trillion into regenerative farming and, and 523 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,800 helping farmers transition slowly and strategically off 524 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,240 conventional farming using those pesticides on to regenerative 525 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,640 farming. It's not something that can be 526 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,440 done overnight. And, and I none of the Maha 527 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,320 activists that I work with, you know, or am advocating with 528 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,120 belief that that should be done. However, how the public took 529 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:40,520 that statement in that executive order was we are protecting 530 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,600 companies like Bear. We are protecting pesticides. 531 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,800 This is the White House making this big declaration that we are 532 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,960 the pesticide White House. And so that absolutely ignited 533 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,280 Maha moms. They were furious. 534 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,160 Well, because they're, they've also protected these companies 535 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,960 from any legal ramifications from injuries from their 536 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,440 products. Right. 537 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,720 Yeah, so, so at the same time this executive order comes out, 538 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,880 you have the biggest chemical companies, which by the way, are 539 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,800 foreign chemical companies, okay. 540 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,640 Bayer is Germany, Chem China, China. 541 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,080 These are foreign chemical companies where these products 542 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,440 are banned in their country, but they make it and they sell it to 543 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,400 us and use it on us. That's biochemical warfare #1 #2 544 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,760 the pesticide companies are going and lobbying in different 545 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,280 States and asking for a pesticide chemical liability 546 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,720 shield. The pesticide liability Shields 547 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,960 would protect over 57,000 different chemical products. 548 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Some items that are inside your home like Ant traps or cleaning 549 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,720 products or even chemicals found in our clothing to pesticide 550 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,960 sprayed outside of the home or in crops or fields near your 551 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840 home, they're drifting. So much more than just 552 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,640 glyphosate. It's. 553 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,640 So much more than just glyphosate And so if you know 554 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,920 what happened in the 80s with with the vaccines and how you 555 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,760 know we're prevented from suing them, right that the vaccine 556 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,080 manufacturers have this protection around them where if 557 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,200 you get harmed, it's extremely difficult to sue a vaccine 558 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,600 company. That is what these chemical Agri 559 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,680 chemical companies are advocating for. 560 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,520 And so at the same time that the White House makes this 561 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,360 glyphosate executive order, they're going through the States 562 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:23,440 and they're trying to put these up. 563 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,440 Now it did pass in South Dakota and in Georgia. 564 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,360 A lot of people don't know this, but in northwest Georgia, 565 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,120 they're making basically all of the carpet for the world. 566 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:34,120 It's like the carpet capital of the world, carpet manufacturing 567 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,560 capital of the world. Yeah. 568 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,800 And so the the carpet companies were dumping forever chemicals 569 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,200 into the environment to get rid of them. 570 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,960 This is a it's a very dark waters Erin Brockovich 571 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080 situation. In fact, Erin Brockovich is now 572 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,840 involved in this case. The carpet the company was was 573 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,720 dumping forever chemicals. The entire community babies are 574 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,280 being born right now with birth defects. 575 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Whoa. They. 576 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,960 Haven't heard anything about this. 577 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,280 It's huge. PBS just did a massive story, 578 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,280 investigative story on it. People have insane forever 579 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840 chemical levels in their blood. Cancer is going crazy. 580 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,280 This is a it's a teeny tiny town and they've got like 2 cancer 581 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,040 centers because the cancer is exploding. 582 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,480 Pediatric cancer, thyroid issues, infertility problems if 583 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,520 for the people that aren't able to get pregnant and it's all 584 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840 stemming from the chemicals. Now what's absolutely tragic, 585 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,880 there is a family that has AI don't know a 20 acre farm in 586 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,760 northwest Georgia. All of their animals are dying, 587 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,280 their family members are dying. They're burying the family 588 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:39,160 members on their farm property and they have basically no legal 589 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,800 recourse because Georgia passed a chemical liability shield. 590 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Horrible. So this is coming to a state 591 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,280 near you. If you're not calling your 592 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,320 legislators and saying you better not be supporting this 593 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,160 legislation or we will primary you. 594 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,560 Maha moms have been calling. We've killed bills. 595 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,200 This bill in Florida, we killed it in Tennessee and in Kansas. 596 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,320 And it's coming to all the other states. 597 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,560 It's in oh, it's in Kentucky, OK, but only applies in Kentucky 598 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,160 to to pesticides in glyphosate farming chemicals. 599 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,280 OK, not the other household chemical products, but in South 600 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,760 Dakota and Georgia, it applies to all of this chemical 601 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,320 products. OK, so this is something that 602 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,520 all of us need to be aware of as this bill continues to make its 603 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,920 way to other states across America. 604 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,520 Tell us what's happening at the White House next week. 605 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,200 So we are staging a massive protest at the Supreme Court. 606 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 There's actually a Supreme Court case right now, Monsanto versus 607 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,200 Darnell. And, and essentially this is 608 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,600 going to decide a lot of things when it comes to Americans being 609 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,680 able to sue chemical companies if they are made sick by their 610 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040 products, including Roundup and glyphosate. 611 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,600 And we're hoping for, I mean, thousands of Maha moms and 612 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560 families and children to be marching. 613 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,040 And it's looking really good and impactful. 614 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,200 But it's important to show up to things like that. 615 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,760 And I know I get asked a lot like, well, how can I be 616 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,120 involved in Maha? It is genuinely, it's calling 617 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,520 lawmakers and it's showing up to rallies like this because what 618 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,680 happens is those lawmakers, those politicians, the people in 619 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,640 the White House, they see with their own eyes how much this 620 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,800 matters to people. And when there's not a lot of 621 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,960 buzz on things or it's only 5 people that are making noise on 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,280 Twitter, for example, about some sort of issue, it's not taken 623 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,680 seriously. But when you've got hundreds of 624 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,200 people calling, you know, your representatives, you've got 10s 625 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,600 of thousands of people showing up for marches in Washington, 626 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,760 DC, people start to pay attention. 627 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,720 So we're calling it the people versus poison rally. 628 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,200 Which is so sick, so good. It's it's, it's really going to 629 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,440 be incredible. We've got like 30 plus people, 630 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,600 politicians and and regular people. 631 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,520 I know there's a farmer who is made really, really sick from 632 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,360 glyphosate. We've got a lot of people giving 633 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360 little speeches. It's it's going to get full 634 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,760 blown news coverage. Are you speaking? 635 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,200 Exciting. Yeah. 636 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,080 Nice. OK. 637 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,440 And so that will already have happened by the time this goes 638 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,480 live, so people can can check in on on how that goes when they 639 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,400 hear this episode. Yeah. 640 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Maha is very much associated with the conservative movement, 641 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520 which is funny because back in the day, alternative health used 642 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,880 to be a liberal thing. How do we make health and 643 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Wellness a bipartisan conversation? 644 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,720 And do you feel like that's truly possible? 645 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,680 It's crazy that this entire health and Wellness conversation 646 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,320 has been kind of attacked onto the conservative movement. 647 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,560 And the reason that has happened is because, one, it was 648 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,120 Democrats who were shilling the vaccine and mandates all 649 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560 throughout the pandemic. If they wouldn't have done that, 650 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,240 they probably still would have had a. 651 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,080 We've got a farm dog visitor. Farm dog visitor. 652 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,520 OK, we had to remove the chicken Nuggets or else the dog would 653 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680 have been all over us the entire rest of this recording. 654 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,560 The chronic disease epidemic is nonpartisan. 655 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,280 Everybody is touched by this. Every single child in America is 656 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560 touched by this. If you're making it political, 657 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,120 you are a bad faith actor. You have activists who've been 658 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,760 fighting for these issues for decades that are now refusing to 659 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,960 come to the table because President Trump is who's talking 660 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040 about it. I'm sorry, but then you are not 661 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,400 principled and you never actually cared about this issue 662 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,960 because to me, it doesn't matter who is talking about it. 663 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,880 I'm going to support those initiatives to get things done. 664 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,240 That's why you have Bobby Kennedy, who's a lifelong 665 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,040 Democrat, was willing to work together with President Trump so 666 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,840 that these, you know, positive changes could be made. 667 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,000 We have to recognize the time that we're in, the season that 668 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,840 we're in. We're all on the Titanic. 669 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920 We're on a sinking ship. We're all going down. 670 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,160 So we have to take whoever we can get that's willing to get 671 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,480 things done. Now, is there going to be such a 672 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520 thing as a perfect president for any party? 673 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,640 No. Do I wish that President Trump 674 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,920 would have not made that executive order protecting 675 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,320 glyphosate? Yes. 676 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,360 What I was able to do was take my concerns all the way to the 677 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,920 top. The White House very graciously 678 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,520 opened their doors and allowed myself and glyphosate girl, 679 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,920 Kelly Ryerson, Courtney Swan from the Real Food Ology 680 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,480 podcast, Doctor Casey Means and some others to get together and 681 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,520 share our concerns on this issue. 682 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,600 And also help with messaging and some olive branch ideas of how 683 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,320 we can rally back Maha and get them re energized and the vibes 684 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,120 up again so that we can stick together because we still have a 685 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,920 couple years left. Were you surprised that that was 686 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,120 something you were able to do, and have there been any like 687 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,200 ramifications that you faced about speaking out about this? 688 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,920 People don't know this, but there were several months of the 689 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,280 White House being very unhappy with those of us who were 690 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,680 speaking out about glyphosate and pesticides. 691 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,520 I think the strategy at first was how can we get them to stop 692 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,000 and shut them up? And then it moved to, OK, maybe 693 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,080 they're on to something because the executive order is released. 694 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,920 Everybody freaks out. And I think that was when the 695 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,440 lights turned on again. Your voice is so powerful. 696 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880 When we have big numbers, then it gets attention. 697 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840 So when it's only a couple of us raising alarm that this is going 698 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,320 to be a problem, you need to be watching out for this. 699 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,960 When it finally becomes a problem and then everyone is 700 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640 mad, then it was like, OK, maybe they're on to something. 701 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,400 Let's invite them in. Let's hear what they have to 702 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,760 say. And so we were able to get this 703 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,840 face to face meeting. Now, has anything come of it 704 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,880 yet? No, it did just happen a week 705 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,920 ago. So I'm, you know, I'm being 706 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,960 giving grace and and hoping that that something's going to come 707 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,920 of it. But we gave several ideas of 708 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,480 things that could strategically be done that we think would make 709 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,719 Maha voters very happy again. And how do you feel like those 710 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,440 ideas were received? I think the ideas were received 711 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,800 very well. I mean, they were taking notes 712 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,080 to everything that we were saying. 713 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,320 They sat with us for two hours. They had us meet with the 714 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,199 president himself. We're sitting there with all of 715 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,560 the people that write the executive orders, as well as the 716 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,120 chief of staff, Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller, Bobby Kennedy 717 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,199 himself, Caroline Levitt, press secretary. 718 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,800 So everybody was very interested in how can we repair this 719 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,040 faction of Maha that is unhappy. You know, what could we be doing 720 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,880 better? And that that was, that showed a 721 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160 lot of humility and also has never been done before. 722 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,920 There's been no administration that has literally opened the 723 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520 doors to activists and said, tell us what we're doing wrong. 724 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,800 So that at least shows something. 725 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,520 I, I think that should count for something. 726 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,840 Of course, there is a possibility that this is all 727 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,080 smoke and mirrors in a way to pacify us and to stop talking 728 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,000 and complaining because, you know, we've got to go to the 729 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,160 White House and sit in the Oval Office and hang out with the 730 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,760 president. Of course, I'm not dumb and time 731 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,320 will tell you know if anything comes of this. 732 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:35,120 But if it doesn't, two things. One, Maha voters have to 733 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,880 understand, even if you're unhappy with Republicans right 734 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,680 now, when it comes to Maha issues, the Democrats don't have 735 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080 any alternatives for you. They're not offering any other 736 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,240 solutions. They don't have better ideas. 737 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,200 So what do you have to lose here? 738 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,880 2 Even if nothing comes of that meeting, I know and the other 739 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,840 people that were with me know that we took it all the way to 740 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080 the top, that we fought tooth and nail, that we've been 741 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,600 killing bills. We've been calling our 742 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,520 legislators and we literally took it to the president himself 743 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,400 so we can sleep at night knowing that we have fought our absolute 744 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,160 hardest for these families. For the stay at home mom who has 745 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,600 a kid with asthma and eczema and has gone through every single 746 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,840 pediatrician and has been dropped because she won't 747 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,800 vaccinate her child anymore who she is convinced is vaccine 748 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,400 injured. I know that I have fought with 749 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,840 everything that I have in the season that I have been given 750 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,040 and with the resources that I have working at Turning Point 751 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,520 USA and having, you know, culture pop carry the podcast 752 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,320 that I have. And I know that if I would have 753 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,800 gotten my wish, which would have been to be married by 19 years 754 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,240 old and had, you know, four or five kids by 26, then I probably 755 00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,120 wouldn't have been in this position to help get all of this 756 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,760 done. Yeah, I'm so grateful for the 757 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,240 work that you're doing as a mom with three kids. 758 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,520 There are a few things that matter more, I think, for the 759 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,800 future of our country and the next generations than this 760 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160 issue. And so super grateful for 761 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,240 everything that you're doing to change the trajectory of health 762 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,480 in America. Thank you. 763 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,520 Your podcast Culture Apothecary has grown significantly in the 764 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,200 last year and a half, and so has your personal platform. 765 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,920 What parts of being known publicly do you genuinely enjoy, 766 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,480 and what parts do you wish that you didn't have to deal with? 767 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,720 I think it's fun, you know, being known publicly and, and, 768 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,640 and in this space in particular, it's not what I'm doing is not 769 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,400 to be self-serving. And, and I'm not saying it's 770 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,000 wrong. If you have a podcast and it's 771 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480 named after yourself and it's all about your life, that's 772 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,880 fine. It's just it wasn't for me. 773 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,920 I never wanted my show to be about me. 774 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,880 I didn't, I never wanted to be an influencer. 775 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,080 My career started in in radio broadcasting and I was talking 776 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,480 about pop culture and entertainment news. 777 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,200 That's where my background is. And then I got into this because 778 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,320 I grew up in a conservative home and it deeply mattered to me, 779 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,960 you know, the the direction that the country was headed. 780 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,480 And with young women in particular, I wanted to try to 781 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,680 sway them to swing right. And, you know, I know not every 782 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,320 guest on the show is conservative or every listener 783 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,080 is conservative. And this is just, this is just 784 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,600 my story. And so it was always about 785 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,520 fighting the culture war. That's why I left radio to work 786 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,720 for Turning Point USA and have a show with Turning Point USA. 787 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:24,240 It was always about that for me. I didn't want my legacy. 788 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,480 You know, when my kids and my grandkids look back about what I 789 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,400 did or what I accomplished in this life, I don't want my 790 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,320 legacy to be that. I talked about Selena Gomez. 791 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,600 I, even though it's very fun, I wanted my legacy to be that I 792 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,520 left the country better than what I had inherited and for my 793 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,440 kids and, and my grandchildren. That being said, it is so fun 794 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,160 for me when people come up that listen to the show and say your 795 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,760 podcast, The information that I learned completely changed my 796 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,920 life. It changed my behavior. 797 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,720 I'm homeschooling my kids now. I know who my local farmer or 798 00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,440 rancher is. I have, you know, swapped out 799 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,200 all of my beauty cabinet to be non-toxic. 800 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,720 I I've switched out my cleaning products or and, and going 801 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,240 through and making sure that all of my clothing is natural fiber 802 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:09,720 clothing like. And I feel like that happens a 803 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,200 lot to you. I mean, happened every time I've 804 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,000 been out with you in public. Really. 805 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,640 Yeah, yeah, it it happens frequently. 806 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,480 And so to me, I'm like, okay, that is a real example of how my 807 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,480 show is changing culture. So it's not about, I mean, the 808 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,680 show is very successful, but but even if it wasn't, if I had this 809 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,720 very small niche following, which is how it started out, you 810 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,760 know, as if I would have only stayed there, but I still had 811 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,480 women coming up and and saying, you know, this has changed my 812 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,480 life and and my family is healthier because of it. 813 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:39,920 It would have been worth it to me. 814 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,880 What is not fun is and, and a lot of this is self-inflicted, 815 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,600 so I'm not even blaming the audience, but I've learned my 816 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,520 lesson is, is sharing too much about my personal life and then 817 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,200 it's weaponized and used against me. 818 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,840 That isn't fun because to me, I like having what feels like a 819 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,160 real relationship with an audience. 820 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,960 I want to share about my life. I want you to share about your 821 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,680 life. Yeah, you. 822 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,440 Answer all of your DMS yourself. DMS myself. 823 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,800 It's so impressive. It is me. 824 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,760 And so when I when I snap back at somebody and I have a weak 825 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,320 moment where I'm not a my best Christian behavior here, then 826 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,560 yes, that was me. I apologize. 827 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,280 I'm a human being, OK. And so, you know, there are 828 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,440 times when, yeah, maybe maybe I'm not as nice. 829 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,200 And they're like, you know, if this isn't Alec, she needs to 830 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,440 find out how I'm being replied to him. 831 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,400 Like it's me. You're speaking to the manager, 832 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000 honey. But anyway. 833 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,760 With that, it comes like the good and bad is going to come 834 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,920 with that, you know it's genuinely you. 835 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,240 It's genuinely me and and so I, I try my best to answer 836 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,480 everything or at least hard and knowledge, acknowledge that I've 837 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,360 read it. I would say it's difficult when 838 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,120 I try to open up and really share a lot about my life, my 839 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,000 personal life, my dating life, etcetera. 840 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,600 And then, you know, that's like taken apart and pulled apart and 841 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,520 judged and or manipulated into being something it isn't. 842 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,160 So I'm being vulnerable and I'm sharing something and then, you 843 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,880 know, it's completely twisted into, into something that it's 844 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,440 not. Or, you know, they're, they're 845 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,560 messaging a boyfriend that we've broken up and now they're 846 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,720 messaging him and attacking him or demanding answers, answers 847 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,440 for what happened or even their family members or, or or 848 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,560 friends. It's like that stuff is out of 849 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,960 control. So I don't enjoy that. 850 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,640 So I had made a decision after my last relationship. 851 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,800 I am not posting about a man again until I am engaged or even 852 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,920 maybe married. I don't even know if I'll post 853 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,680 once I'm engaged. It might be when I'm married. 854 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:38,160 I'm undecided, but I'm not doing that again because a myriad a 855 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,920 myriad of reasons, but you're just inviting people to get into 856 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,720 your head and tell you things about your relationship that may 857 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,040 or may not be there. Like I I need to figure out for 858 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,680 myself. Yeah, how how I'm feeling. 859 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,840 I don't, I don't want to be told this is right, this is wrong. 860 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,360 I don't like what he did here. I I do like what he did here. 861 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,920 Like, I don't want that noise. Yeah. 862 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,760 You don't want every little move dissected by people that aren't 863 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,080 even in the situation with you, but they feel like they have a 864 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,240 say in it because they feel so close to it because they're 865 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,600 seeing it and they're they're close to you. 866 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,440 They feel close to you because they've been listening to your 867 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,360 podcast. But really, there's so much 868 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,280 context to everything that people aren't seeing. 869 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,760 And I think what's funny, I think what's funny to me is, is 870 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,320 watching people like they, they're literally so convinced 871 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,880 that they have something right? Like, well, I, you know, was 872 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,920 around Alex in, in, in 2014. And so I know exactly how she 873 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,440 operates now. Or I, you know, was, was 874 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,880 friendly with her at one point. And and so at that time, you 875 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,960 know, this happened, this relationship. 876 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,280 So this is what happened in this relationship or even just like, 877 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,800 I don't know, putting pieces together, they think are pieces 878 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,200 that aren't like people are so convinced that they are right 879 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,040 about certain things and and they couldn't be more off the 880 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,000 mark. And so it's kind of interesting 881 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,440 to me to like read online forums or things or, or what people are 882 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,800 saying. And I'm like, either this 883 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,400 literally never happened or you have it completely wrong. 884 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,120 Like the opposite is true, you know, So that's. 885 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,800 Frustrating. What forums are these? 886 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,120 Are you spending time sifting? I don't spend. 887 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,720 Time, but like people send me screenshots like like, hey, you 888 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,480 should be aware somebody is saying this like is this true? 889 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:17,680 Things like that like the people send stuff to me. 890 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,960 I mean, I can't get away from from it, you know what I'm 891 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,680 saying? So like I'm not in them but it 892 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,160 it all gets sent to me at some point anyway. 893 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,240 I know you've had serious boyfriends in the past. 894 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,920 What do you feel like God has taught you from those past 895 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,320 relationships? One thing from my last 896 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,720 relationship that really opened my eyes, and this really falls 897 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:40,240 back on me, I didn't have my priorities right. 898 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,720 How so? I think for many years, not just 899 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:50,120 last relationship for many years I accepted a man telling me, oh, 900 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,280 I'm a Christian, I believe in God. 901 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,800 I grew up in the church. I went to private school that 902 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:03,840 weren't totally walking the walk or able to you know, be a clear 903 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,320 cut example of this man could lead me spiritually like that's 904 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,640 who I want to marry. And so I would make compromises 905 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,040 like, well, they're really successful in business or 906 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,120 they're, they're really attractive or they're so funny. 907 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,040 Like I laugh with them more than anybody else. 908 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Or this person is literally my best friend. 909 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,400 We never even argue. We never have a fight. 910 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,160 And so I feel like I need to just, you know, hope that one 911 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,360 day he's going to get there spiritually, eventually because 912 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,760 he's dating me. And then I'll be able to get, 913 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,560 it's like the I can change him. But but to me, I was like, well, 914 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,840 I'm not, it's not, I can change him because he's saying he's a 915 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,960 Christian. And so, you know, when somebody 916 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,320 isn't being discipled or sharpened by, by other men in 917 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,600 their life that are super solid believers, I think when they're 918 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,240 not pouring into the word every single day and have that 919 00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:03,320 self-discipline, there are ways that insecure behavior kind of 920 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:10,480 seeps out into the relationship and makes it very difficult to 921 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,480 move forward. It, it, it, it makes it, it 922 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,040 makes it hard for them to lead you. 923 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,520 It makes it hard for you as a woman to be receptive to them 924 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,720 trying to lead. And so I just think you start to 925 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,880 see this like chain of command, like everything just gets all 926 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,920 topsy turvy and completely messed up. 927 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,080 I think that's a really important lesson, especially for 928 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,560 any single people listening, because growing up I always 929 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,080 thought if someone says they're Christian, like, that's it, 930 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,520 check the box. But there's actually, like a lot 931 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,240 of range in your walk with Christ and where you're at in it 932 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:45,880 and how serious you are about it. 933 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,120 And I think that's a really important thing to consider when 934 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,440 you're choosing a boyfriend, a spouse, for sure. 935 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,760 Yeah, it's more than just making sure that box is checked. 936 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,640 Yeah. And I, I just, I want to be 937 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,960 completely transparent. I'm not, but I'm also not coming 938 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,680 into this like I, I was a perfect Christian and he isn't 939 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,760 or you know, any cast boyfriend of mine or anything like that. 940 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,240 I still kind of like, I still cuss like a sailor, sailor and, 941 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:12,920 and have to ask for forgiveness on like I need more 942 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,800 self-control, like praying for self-control, but like that's 943 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,240 the sanctification process, right? 944 00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,720 So it's like, OK, if I look at my life today compared to two 945 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:22,360 years ago, do I see growth there? 946 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,480 Yes, 100%. Do I still see a lot of growth 947 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,960 that I need to hit 100%? But it's like, where has, where 948 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,280 has any guy that you've been dating, not just my last 949 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,240 immediate relationship, because I know everybody's going to be 950 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:35,640 looking at that. I mean, I'm talking about my 951 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,320 entire history of dating here, You know, have they shown 952 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,480 growth? Like has there been any 953 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,840 improvement or difference? You know, can the people around 954 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,760 them say, wow, you're dating him now? 955 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,840 Like you should have seen him five years ago. 956 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,840 It's amazing the changes that have been made. 957 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,640 It's the it's amazing the growth that we have seen. 958 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,800 I know that my friends can say that about me. 959 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,200 And so that's what I'm looking for. 960 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,240 I'm not looking for Mr. Perfect because I'm not Missus perfect. 961 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,800 What I am looking for is can you walk with me in the season and 962 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,840 can we grow together and can you lead me to what that next step 963 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,280 is? I can't lead you as a woman. 964 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,480 And so think that was the biggest thing that I learned 965 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,320 from that relationship was you've got to prioritize a man 966 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,920 who not only says he's a believer, but also has seasoned 967 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,080 believers around him that are constantly challenging him, 968 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,560 holding him accountable, asking why weren't you at church today? 969 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:38,440 That is, it has a disciplined time in the word every single 970 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,560 morning. Who is telling you what he's 971 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,960 learning lately so that you can tell him what you're learning 972 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,120 lately? Like this? 973 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,720 This in an entire relationship that has got at the center, 974 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,160 Never had that. Not my past relationship, not in 975 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,840 any other relationships prior to that. 976 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,520 So I think that is what I came out of it like this is what has 977 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,680 to change. You don't have any children yet, 978 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,440 but you do interview a lot of experts on parenting and raising 979 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,640 healthy kids. What shocks or saddens you the 980 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,400 most about how kids are being brought up these days? 981 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,600 And how do you plan to do things differently when you become a 982 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,440 mom? Oh, let's just piss off all of 983 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,120 the Internet. Let's do it. 984 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,280 Do it you're. Like, I don't know, I know you 985 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,560 get pushed back on this, but I feel like you're allowed to have 986 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,800 an opinion and thoughts on this. Oh, I am. 987 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,080 I mean, as a mom, I feel that way. 988 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,320 I know that that maybe isn't how everybody feels, but it's 989 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,040 something that I just think like, it's like you're in this 990 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,000 world. You're getting in touch with so 991 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,080 many prominent experts on these things. 992 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,080 You have a lot of mom friends and I think it's interesting to 993 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,640 hear like what resonates, what doesn't resonate? 994 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,680 What do you, what are your hopes and dreams and aspirations as a 995 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,880 mom? And and how I think it's 996 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,120 important for people to think about that before they become a 997 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,320 parent, not just when they're a parent. 998 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,840 Well, I think the same thing that this is the most 999 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,480 controversial thing about also, I've never told somebody how to 1000 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,320 parent. I say like what I think of what 1001 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,560 I would like to do. Like this is my opinion on 1002 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,840 something. Knowing that every family is 1003 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,800 different, every child is different and that's everybody's 1004 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,440 still mad. Like they genuinely think that I 1005 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,000 should not ever voice any opinion ever. 1006 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,480 I'm like, OK, so if the the rule is you cannot say anything about 1007 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,040 you know what it what is or isn't best for children 1008 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,640 objectively. I think there's a lot of things 1009 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,280 in this life, whether you are a parent or not, that you can say 1010 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,080 is objectively good or bad for children. 1011 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,880 Is it objectively good for a child to touch a hot stove? 1012 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,000 No. Do I have to be a parent to say 1013 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,520 that? Do I have to have had an 1014 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,080 abortion to say that abortion is wrong? 1015 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,600 No. You know, do I have to do I have 1016 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,720 to eat McDonald's everyday to say McDonald's isn't healthy? 1017 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,160 No. It's just like stupid stuff like 1018 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,560 that. I don't understand anyway what I 1019 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,600 think what saddens me about how children are being raised today. 1020 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:53,040 So many things, but I would say biggest is parents that just 1021 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,440 don't want to parent. And so they're they're 1022 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,640 relinquishing parenting duties to screens and having screens 1023 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,360 raise their children. I cannot stand being at a 1024 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:08,040 restaurant where a child is is on an iPad at the restaurant and 1025 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,440 and mom and dad also to be fair, mom and dad are also on their 1026 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,760 phone. Everybody's on a screen and 1027 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,200 nobody's interacting with each other. 1028 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,120 Why even be out? Yes, but even worse is when you 1029 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,120 have a mom that takes her child out for a one-on-one date and 1030 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,200 the child is sitting there because they're way too young 1031 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,360 for they're like 3 years old and they're sitting there and 1032 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,840 they're just like looking around. 1033 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,960 And then the mom is in a screen and, and even like editing a 1034 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,560 photo of that child to post online or whatever, but she's 1035 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,680 not even engaging or interacting with the kid. 1036 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:42,040 That upsets me and saddens me. I think just the fact that 70% 1037 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,920 of, of, of children, 60 to 70% of children are eating a, a diet 1038 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,200 primarily of ultra processed food, that their palates are 1039 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,280 completely warped, their microbiome is completely wiped. 1040 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,040 You know that they're, they're just little babies and they're 1041 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,680 struggling with being sick all the time and severe eczema and 1042 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:03,600 asthma and and rashes and, and all of these different things 1043 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,320 that that is basically completely preventable. 1044 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,920 Largely that is largely completely preventable. 1045 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,640 And, and so I think that's so devastating that there is a 1046 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,800 better way to live that that would make everybody happier in 1047 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,680 the family. Let's OK, how would I parent? 1048 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,400 That's really going to make everybody mad. 1049 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,840 These are my hopes and dreams. Let's hear it. 1050 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,320 OK, now listen again. Here's my my caveat and my 1051 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,880 warning before I say this. Once you become a parent, every 1052 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,400 child is different and you might decide, OK, this is what I 1053 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,040 wanted to do, but because of this child's personality, I have 1054 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,720 to change it up. I have to say that I have to say 1055 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:41,520 this like everybody's a baby and hold their hand because 1056 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,560 everybody can't handle another opinion. 1057 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,600 OK, a few things. You are just saying some of my 1058 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,760 craziest hot takes that I want to do as a parent. 1059 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,760 No fruit till two years old. OK, OK, that is that is a hot 1060 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,200 shake. Because it's still sugar. 1061 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,480 Yeah. And I, No, I get it. 1062 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,200 I get. Where you're going? 1063 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,720 It's it's warping the palate. And so you know we. 1064 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,760 Held out as long as we could, but I don't think we held out 1065 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,400 until 2. Yeah, and maybe I won't and 1066 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,440 maybe I won't like first. Foods were liver and sardines 1067 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,600 and egg yolk. Exactly. 1068 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,200 That's exactly so. And they loved it. 1069 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,360 Whipped. Whipped bone marrow. 1070 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,000 Yeah. Sardines, egg yolks, you know, 1071 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,040 raw milk, all those different types of things. 1072 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,840 I just wonder to try to, to stave off fruit as long as 1073 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,360 possible and then bring that in, obviously. 1074 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,920 But I would say that's one thing. 1075 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,360 Another thing is homeschooling non negotiable probably till I'm 1076 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,160 going to say 8-9 years old. And then I'd love to to put them 1077 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,720 in a classical Christian evangelical private school that 1078 00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:45,760 were heavily involved in and know what's going on. 1079 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,400 I think. I think that's important. 1080 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,680 A lot of unstructured play, just a lot of there's no plan today. 1081 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,200 You're going outside. You're not allowed inside. 1082 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,400 Which is rare these days. The average child spends more 1083 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,080 time indoors than a maximum security prisoner. 1084 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,160 That is sick. Horrible. 1085 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,240 I didn't even know that. Couple other things, no food 1086 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,240 dies at birthday parties, which hopefully it's going to be 1087 00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,120 outlawed anyway by the time I have kids so I don't have to 1088 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,280 worry about that which it is possible. 1089 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,760 I don't care what anybody says because you, all of my friends 1090 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,520 that are parents do this. My kids have never had food 1091 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,680 dies. Exactly but people but I am told 1092 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,960 I'm cussed out in my Instagram DMS that I have no idea what I'm 1093 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,200 talking about. I'm not a parent so I don't 1094 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,040 understand. I'm sitting here with dozens of 1095 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,720 mom friends who are all doing it, so I know it's possible. 1096 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,960 Yeah, it goes back to like what you were saying earlier, it's 1097 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,920 just not food. And so like, I don't see those 1098 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,480 things as food and I've just trained my children to also not 1099 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,040 see them as food. They don't care. 1100 00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:42,960 Like I bring them a treat that they can eat. 1101 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,920 I'm not like, you can't have anything, but they still get 1102 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,920 something that they love and enjoy and it's not the same as 1103 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,200 everyone else. I don't want them to think they 1104 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,200 have to be the same as everyone else in order to enjoy life and 1105 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,440 feel comfortable with themselves. 1106 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,960 Yeah, exactly. I mean, no screens, obviously, 1107 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:02,040 except I think once a week. Family time, family movie, you 1108 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,120 know, something slow paced. Let's watch Wizard of Oz. 1109 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,480 You know what I'm saying? Like I I don't want my kids to 1110 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,240 be like underground moles who have no idea what's going on in 1111 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:11,360 pop culture. OK. 1112 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,840 Would you do screens on airplanes? 1113 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,720 No. OK. 1114 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,440 When they're older, maybe like. That's the area of the digits 1115 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,480 that we that's where we let them. 1116 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,880 So that's AI think no, I think no. 1117 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,360 And and with little little kids, and I guess it depends, you 1118 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,760 know, if we're going on a international flight, then maybe 1119 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,040 we're bringing that in at some point. 1120 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,600 But I'm going to try to bring a kit with so many things to do 1121 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,960 and books and and games. And you know what it requires is 1122 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,920 it requires the parents sitting there also the whole time to be 1123 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,000 playing with the kid and and doing stuff. 1124 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,160 So I can't be sitting there on my phone doom scrolling 1125 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,560 Instagram and then expecting my 4 year old to also sit there and 1126 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,120 just do nothing. Like that's unfair. 1127 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,960 And I do think. Me to do something. 1128 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,080 And I do think it's possible, like as someone who doesn't do 1129 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,520 that, like I do let my my kids use iPads on airplanes. 1130 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,880 It's like the one place they know they're allowed to do it. 1131 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,160 But I do have friends that don't like it's possible. 1132 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,960 I guess I'm just lazy in that area. 1133 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,680 But it doesn't make me mad to hear you say that you I don't 1134 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,840 want to do that. And that's. 1135 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,960 Something I could see myself changing my mind on of. 1136 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,080 Airplanes only great. I think it's great and I I wish 1137 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,960 that I was more that way. I wish that I had like thought 1138 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,440 ahead on that more over the years and planned ahead. 1139 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,640 It does require some planning ahead, making sure that you have 1140 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,920 enough things to keep the kids busy. 1141 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,200 And that's just an area I've been lazy and you know, I don't, 1142 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,720 I'm not like beating myself up over it, but I think not doing 1143 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,560 it would be. More optimal, yeah. 1144 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,240 And that's the thing like, you know your families, you know 1145 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,160 that your kids aren't on screens 90% of the time. 1146 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,680 I think that's the other problem I have is that a lot of the the 1147 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,160 parents who who are chiming in my comments and DMS and saying 1148 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,600 that I don't know anything, that I'm not a parent. 1149 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,840 You don't know how hard it is. You need to let your kids live 1150 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,640 8020 is that the reality is, is that you're not living 8020 in 1151 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,320 your family. You're living 9010 and 90% of it 1152 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,040 is crap. That's the reality. 1153 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,160 But they don't, they're not thinking about all the little, 1154 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,840 these little micro decisions. The Chick-fil-A multiple times a 1155 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,360 week after soccer practice. The, the, the, the chemicals, 1156 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,680 you know, all over the home that the, the toxic wet wipes that 1157 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,160 you're using and the baby has a baby rash. 1158 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,240 Then you're putting Destin on it. 1159 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,720 I mean, there's like 100 things and and I don't know what where 1160 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:31,040 people are getting this 8020 number, but the reality is that 1161 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,560 almost no Americans are capable of living true 8020 true. 1162 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,960 It is a very small circle of people. 1163 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,280 I think a lot of people that kind of come at me with that 1164 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,320 criticism is that they don't live their life that way. 1165 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,640 And so they don't like the convicting feeling when when 1166 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,960 that's pointed out, they they don't like to be told. 1167 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,360 That is what it really boils down to is because it requires 1168 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,400 then hard work, actual parenting and change and being 1169 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,280 uncomfortable. As Americans, we are too. 1170 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,560 We are so coddled and and and used to living so comfortably 1171 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,840 that anything outside of our comfort zone, it's like, sorry, 1172 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,440 we refuse to do it. We cannot do. 1173 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,960 It yeah, it's like the whole fear mongering accusation over 1174 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,080 health things. It's like I hear something I 1175 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,280 don't like, so I'm just going to accuse that person of fear 1176 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,640 mongering rather than actually thinking about what they said 1177 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,880 and deciding for myself if it has merit. 1178 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,600 Like you don't have to just push things away if they make you 1179 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,480 uncomfortable comfortable. I think like we all need to 1180 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,120 really think about the things that we feel uncomfortable with 1181 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,720 and sit with it and decide if this is an area that maybe I 1182 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,760 could grow in, maybe I could learn something and change 1183 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,200 something, or maybe not. But it's still OK that that 1184 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,160 person shared that thing. Right. 1185 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,440 I think there's also like a lack of common sense. 1186 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:48,440 Like I'm, I speak, I'm a very hyperbolic speaker and I will 1187 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,640 speak in hyperboles a lot just to get attention, to draw, to 1188 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,320 draw attention to a bigger point. 1189 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,320 So I made this real at Disney, Disneyland and I was, I was 1190 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,920 complete. I mean, obviously this is a 1191 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,520 joke, but to get attention on, on the issue at hand about food 1192 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,320 dyes and, and all this Disney food is, I said, do you hate 1193 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,760 your children and wish they were never born? 1194 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,360 Then you should give them this. And it was like one of those 1195 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,520 Disney suckers that it was, was high fructose corn syrup and and 1196 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,760 food dye. That's what this was. 1197 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,840 It was no, there was no, it was all chemical. 1198 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,080 And so do I really think a parent giving their child that 1199 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,760 sucker hates their kid? No, but I I got your attention 1200 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,800 right now. You're paying attention to the 1201 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,240 real. It's like, it's like, but people 1202 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,320 get really, I'm unfollowing you. This is so mean. 1203 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,880 You know, I'm like we need help. Silly. 1204 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,160 And also, there's so many things that I want to do when I'm 1205 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,960 pregnant that I know will make everybody mad. 1206 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,400 OK, tell me. Sauna's raw milk. 1207 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,440 Wait, wait, wait. Sauna. 1208 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,000 OK, tell me about this. What? 1209 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,200 Like sauna while being pregnant? Yes. 1210 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,320 OK, so this is another one of those like made-up American 1211 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,600 rules that we can't sauna. But if you look at Finland, it's 1212 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,840 like recommended really. They're all, first of all saunas 1213 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,200 that like came from Finland. They're all sauna ING. 1214 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,720 They're they're doing it while pregnant, but they are only 1215 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,240 doing it for about 5 to 10 minutes. 1216 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,000 They've got it at a little bit of a lower temperature than than 1217 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,000 typical. And it really helps them with 1218 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000 circulation, getting better sleep. 1219 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,720 They've also had an entire life where they've been building up 1220 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,960 tolerance and using saunas. So it's a little bit different 1221 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,000 than an American woman who's never done it before. 1222 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,280 But there is a lot of health benefits while pregnant that 1223 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,320 they talk about in Finland. I mean that feels like a very 1224 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,520 common sense approach rather than just it's bad avoid it 1225 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,440 completely. Like OK maybe you can still do 1226 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,200 it, but lesser frequency, lesser amount of time, less 1227 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,960 temperature. That makes sense to me. 1228 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,560 You know who who saunas while pregnant is the really tan man's 1229 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,160 wife? Olive Oil Queen. 1230 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,560 Masa chip founders olive oil queen Mia. 1231 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240 She saunas while pregnant, talks about it a lot. 1232 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:47,840 She knows more about it than me. But yeah, sauna, raw milk, raw 1233 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,760 oysters, basically, you know, beef liver, whatever. 1234 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,200 I'm not following. Yes. 1235 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,640 I'm not following any of these dietary guidelines, which have 1236 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,560 not been updated for decades. They've not been updated at all. 1237 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,400 And also when people say like you can't have fish and all this 1238 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,760 stuff, I'm like, it totally matters the source of where 1239 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,440 you're getting it. If you look at Asian countries, 1240 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,040 I mean, they're primarily eating raw fish. 1241 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,360 You know, those pregnant women are, are, are, are eating this 1242 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,120 to the heart's content and and they're completely fine and 1243 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,880 totally healthy. So it's not even realistic. 1244 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,800 Some of these guidelines in certain areas of the world, you 1245 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,920 know, to be implemented. Different cultures do different 1246 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,080 things. I really like looking at all the 1247 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,000 different cultures and what they do in Scandinavia versus what 1248 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,120 they do in Asia. And I like taking just a little 1249 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,760 bit, you know, hunt, gather, parent, you know, that book. 1250 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,960 I like taking a little bit from all of these different groups 1251 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,400 and being like, OK, what would I like to implement into my life 1252 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:42,720 when I'm pregnant, when I'm raising kids? 1253 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,640 That I think is super cool. What do you think about the 1254 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,400 outdoor naps in Finland? I know. 1255 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,480 I am obsessed with that. And you know, my family's from 1256 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,560 Indiana, so I'm like when I have a baby baby because it's I live 1257 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,280 in Scottsdale, so it's like always summer. 1258 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,560 So it won't work there. But when I go home and visit 1259 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,720 family, you better believe I am taking the little stroller and 1260 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,120 my kids going to be all bundled up and and they're going to be 1261 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,720 out there taking a nap in the snowstorm. 1262 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,720 You be careful, you may get CPS called. 1263 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,360 On I know we'll. Put it didn't happen in New 1264 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,440 York. A woman from Finland like napped 1265 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,880 her baby outside of a coffee shop in the in the cold or the 1266 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,120 snow, and I think it caused this huge. 1267 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,720 Uproar. Yeah, it's terrible. 1268 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,640 I mean, again, this is the kind of stuff I, I hate how involved 1269 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,600 the state is in parenting in the United States. 1270 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,760 Like the fact that you're, you know, there will be 1271 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,160 neighborhoods that will call the police on your child or call CPS 1272 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,880 because they walk around the corner at 9-10 years old to go 1273 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,120 to go get a, you know, a drink or whatever at the convenience 1274 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,800 store. I mean, this stuff should not be 1275 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,680 happening. This is why you've got this 1276 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,200 entire generation of kids who are too scared to get a driver's 1277 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,000 license. They're living at home until 1278 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,360 they're 32 years old. Like, this is the stuff that I 1279 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,480 want to avoid. And so we're not giving children 1280 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,160 any opportunity to build independence at all. 1281 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,360 I'm a firm believer that children are capable of a lot 1282 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,040 more in the United States than American parents give them 1283 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,600 credit for. I think that we coddle our kids 1284 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,600 too much. I think that they are completely 1285 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,480 they're they're too sheltered. They are prevented from from 1286 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,360 truly growing, gaining confidence. 1287 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,440 They have to struggle. They have, there has to be risk. 1288 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,160 They have to go through hard things. 1289 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,600 That's where that confidence is built and that ability to kind 1290 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,360 of go out on their own. And I think that's why we're 1291 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,160 seeing all of these kids that are afraid to get their driver's 1292 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,080 license or, you know, they don't leave the house till they're 1293 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,840 like 30 years old. That's like my biggest fear. 1294 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,360 And so as a parent, you know one thing that I really want to do. 1295 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,920 Is more people need to have that fear I. 1296 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,360 Think so too, and it's a. Very healthy fear to have 1297 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,560 people. Are like this is important how 1298 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,720 can you have an opinion on this without a kid I'm like again, 1299 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,280 it's common sense looking for opportunities for your child to 1300 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,200 build independent skills to me and assess risk is so. 1301 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,680 One of my favorite things to see my kids do also, I mean, I sent 1302 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,680 you a video the other day of my kids walking to their homeschool 1303 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,160 pod and they're like hiking up this like big hill slash like 1304 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,720 small mountain. And they, they just come back 1305 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,880 from experiences like that, like so full of life and so like 1306 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,760 confident in themselves. And it's just so cool to see. 1307 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,840 It's like an instantaneous way that you can help them to grow 1308 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,000 as a human being. And it's really is like instant 1309 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,640 the effects of that. So I love that when you think 1310 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,400 about the next generation, especially these Sephora 1311 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,720 obsessed teenage girls, what would it take for them to 1312 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,560 actually care about clean living and see it as something that's 1313 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,200 aspirational? Well, I'm going to tell you one 1314 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,600 thing right now, if you are 10 to 13 years old, haven't even 1315 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,440 gone through pre beauty yet, you're using all of these 1316 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,520 endocrine disrupting products. You're using products that say 1317 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:49,840 fragrance or perfume in them and it is going to contribute to you 1318 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,840 starting puberty early. You are dramatically increasing 1319 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,120 your risk for breast cancer issues like that. 1320 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,720 The earlier that you start puberty, the worse off you are 1321 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,880 later, and when you're using a lot of those chemical toxic 1322 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,200 makeup and skin care products, you are almost certainly 1323 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,920 increasing your risk to have puberty early. 1324 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,920 Absolutely, because they mimic our hormones and they attach to 1325 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,280 the hormone receptor sites of our cells and the body doesn't 1326 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,040 always know the difference. Is this a estrogen mimicking 1327 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,680 compound or is it real estrogen? And so you're getting this 1328 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,160 imbalance in hormones. It's such a young age, it's such 1329 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,640 a vulnerable time. And I agree, I think it's super 1330 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,360 dangerous. Also they've talked about how 1331 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,520 starting puberty early can lead to infertility later on as well, 1332 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,280 so it's just screwing everything up. 1333 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,600 Yeah, I did a reel on this and talked about how for us, when we 1334 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,800 were growing up, I mean, I'm a little older than you, but it 1335 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,440 was all about Bath and Body Works. 1336 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,720 And we would give lotions from Bath and Body Works to each 1337 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,840 other and candles as gifts for holidays. 1338 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,120 And, you know, we aren't doing very well. 1339 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,400 Like millennial women are not doing well health wise. 1340 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,400 There's so much infertility, so many other issues. 1341 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,120 And why are we letting this now happen to our girls in the next 1342 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,800 generation? Like, we should have learned by 1343 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,680 now that that is not the way to go and correct course. 1344 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,800 But unfortunately, we haven't. And it's a dream of mine to just 1345 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,280 make clean living and clean personal care products cool for 1346 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,000 the next generation. I'm still trying to figure out 1347 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,760 how to do that. You are doing it. 1348 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,600 I think you guys are on the absolute cutting edge of that, 1349 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,000 at the forefront of that and have been for a long time. 1350 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,640 Thanks. It's cool to see my daughter and 1351 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,360 her friends really into it, but I think we could be doing a 1352 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,160 little bit better job with making certain products maybe 1353 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,400 more appealing to the younger generation, and that's something 1354 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,880 that I want to work on in the future. 1355 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,840 So switching gears, we've been friends now for about a year and 1356 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,520 a half, and during that time you've experienced some really 1357 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,640 devastating blows, one of which being your dad passing away a 1358 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,520 little over a year ago. What did the death of your 1359 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,000 father reveal to you about the medical system? 1360 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:59,000 And that was so tough because I knew that my dad was sick 1361 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,280 because of his diet and lifestyle. 1362 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,640 My dad was diagnosed with glioblastoma, brain cancer. 1363 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,120 He also had heart failure. He had type 2 diabetes. 1364 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:14,200 He had suffered multiple heart attacks and had a life of being 1365 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,080 addicted to ultra processed food. 1366 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,200 It was constant White Castle, Pizza Hut, going out to eat at 1367 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,800 Denny's or Chick-fil-A Nuggets. And I mean, this is a grown man 1368 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,800 in his 50s. My dad was 56 when he passed 1369 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,880 away. And, you know, most of my 1370 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,600 childhood was was obese. And then once he started having 1371 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,960 all these heart attacks, got very, very, very thin just 1372 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,840 because of of all that trauma. It was frustrating for me going 1373 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,360 through that, interviewing the people that I interviewed, 1374 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,280 talking to all of these experts, you know, integrative cancer 1375 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,200 specialists, what have you. And I knew that I could offer my 1376 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,640 dad a better path or an alternative path. 1377 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,200 He was probably for sure too far gone to completely save. 1378 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,920 I'm not saying that if my dad would have stopped eating ultra 1379 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,160 processed foods suddenly that he would have survived. 1380 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,560 I don't think that, but I because it was just too late. 1381 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,600 But I, I do think that we could have bought maybe another six 1382 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,400 months being in the hospital the night before he was to have 1383 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,600 brain tumor surgery and having the, the nurses, you know, bring 1384 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,400 in case after case of orange Fanta soda at my dad's request 1385 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,720 infuriated me. And, and I talked about this on 1386 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,120 Twitter and it went viral and everybody attacked me, said I 1387 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,040 was the worst daughter on earth. That if that if they were my 1388 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,200 dad, they would have been glad to die to get away from me. 1389 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,200 Because I talked about how I had asked the nurse to stop bringing 1390 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,400 in soda and if he could have water instead. 1391 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,960 And they were like, if your dad is dying and this is his dying 1392 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,840 wish to have it, let him have a soda. 1393 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,200 What they don't understand about the situation is that that, yes, 1394 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,240 my dad was on track to die. He wasn't immediately dying. 1395 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,720 OK. So like, we still hadn't even 1396 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,600 removed the brain tumor yet. We didn't know how successful 1397 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,680 the surgery was. He could have had, maybe he 1398 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,120 could have had two more years of life. 1399 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,160 I don't know. I mean, at that point they were 1400 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,640 telling us maybe he had they, they did say 18 months. 1401 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,320 So, you know, about a year and a half or so. 1402 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,040 It is what they thought he had left. 1403 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,680 He didn't make it quite a year. But that's why I, I'm convinced 1404 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,760 that if he would have started eating differently, maybe we 1405 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,600 could have, you know, taken down the inflammation a little bit. 1406 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:22,200 People still do not understand in America that the food we're 1407 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,800 eating is contributing to inflammation, which is allowing 1408 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,120 all these diseases and cancer and autoimmune, etcetera to 1409 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:33,359 thrive and expand and get worse. So food is medicine and people 1410 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:35,760 do not realize that food is either harming you or it is 1411 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:40,240 helping you and healing you. And I wanted my dad so badly to 1412 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,439 take a meeting with Doctor Connealy from Irvine, CA, who 1413 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,040 who's helped our friend Taylor Dukes. 1414 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,080 Love Doctor Connealy. I want, she even offered she was 1415 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,359 like, I'll do a Zoom call with him. 1416 01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:50,200 I'll get him on a couple different supplements and talk 1417 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,760 to him about a keto diet and all this with brain cancer. 1418 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,399 It's really, really good to do a keto diet. 1419 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,279 And he just, he absolutely was not interested. 1420 01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:01,040 Like wouldn't even do a free phone call with one of the most 1421 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,520 expensive, probably cancer doctors in America. 1422 01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:08,120 And so at that point, I just had to make a, a decision as his 1423 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,359 daughter of yeah, that's when it's like, OK, I'm just going to 1424 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:14,120 love my dad where he's at. And that's all I can do. 1425 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,240 You know, he's an adult. I cannot force him to do 1426 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,439 anything if he is not interested in experience in, in, in trying 1427 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,240 out any alternatives, any hearing, any alternative 1428 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,080 opinions? My dad wanted to hear one 1429 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,800 opinion. It was his doctor in Indiana. 1430 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,479 And that was that, that was the law. 1431 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:34,399 So you, it's really hard when a loved one is making decisions 1432 01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:36,439 like that. It's, it's genuinely like 1433 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,479 watching an addict because I do believe my dad was addicted to 1434 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,840 this food. I mean, I would come home to 1435 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,359 visit like on a holiday or whatever. 1436 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,560 I live in Arizona. My parents are in Indiana. 1437 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,600 I would go home for the holidays and I would visit them and my 1438 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,279 dad would be frying up Johnsonville sausages. 1439 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,960 And I'm looking at the back of this, you know, ultra processed 1440 01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:02,040 sausage meat, whatever, and everything in it basically is a 1441 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,000 carcinogen. And I told my dad that. 1442 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,520 I said, dad, everything in this sausage right now, first of all, 1443 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,240 it's like not even real and it's chemicals and carcinogens. 1444 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,240 And he was like, the sausage is going to kill me. 1445 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,680 You know, he make fun of me and then, you know, a year later 1446 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,080 he's dead. So my thing was going through 1447 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,120 that is like, I don't want anyone else to go through what 1448 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,440 I've now had to walk through with my dad. 1449 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:27,880 Like this is everything that has happened to this 56 year old man 1450 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,640 is completely preventable if you start the building blocks 1451 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,920 earlier to to live a a healthy, clean, active lifestyle. 1452 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:39,880 And it doesn't have to be complicated right. 1453 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,240 It's eating real food, it's getting out in the sun, it's 1454 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,200 it's getting fresh air, being in nature, being around community. 1455 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:54,240 That is really all it takes. And so it was so sad to have to 1456 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,320 lose my dad in that way so early. 1457 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,000 And it was sad for my mom. I was, I was honestly, when my 1458 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,840 dad died, I, it wasn't even, I don't even think that my 1459 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,680 immediate emotion was sadness. It was anger because I was like, 1460 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,320 how could you let this happen? How could you do this to your 1461 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,560 family? Like my mom has so much life 1462 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,320 left to live. Like how could you abandoned her 1463 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,240 like this? Like, it didn't have to be this 1464 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,160 way. And so I think I walked through 1465 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,480 a lot of anger at 1st and then, you know, came other feelings of 1466 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,560 grief. And, you know, it's just that's 1467 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,360 the whole thing. Everybody, it's like so trite to 1468 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,000 say, but everybody does grieve differently. 1469 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,240 And you go through different waves and different seasons of 1470 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,960 it. And, you know, sometimes it just 1471 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,960 hits me like, I'm just like, going throughout my day. 1472 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,200 And I'm like, oh, my gosh, my dad would think this is so 1473 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,400 funny. And like, you can't text them. 1474 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,160 So. Yeah. 1475 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:50,560 Yeah, super hard and and I think almost everyone has, you know, 1476 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,840 know someone who has died of of cancer at this point. 1477 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,320 I mean, I have several family members were kind of not a 1478 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:04,520 parent, but similar situation in the sense of in the beginning, I 1479 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:09,920 was so motivated to, you know, let's let's fight this, let's do 1480 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,160 these things, you know, talk to this person. 1481 01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:16,560 And I think it's really hard for people to see outside of the, 1482 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,000 the world that they're living in and the doctors that they're in 1483 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,360 touch with who they see as the end all be all experts. 1484 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,960 And it really is tragic because there's just so much outside of 1485 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,800 that. There's so much outside of the 1486 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,880 conventional oncology protocol that people can do, even if they 1487 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,320 do decide to do a conventional treatment of some sort. 1488 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,000 You know, there's, there's things that can be done in 1489 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,120 conjunction with that. I know this is something that 1490 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,560 Susan Johnson, who who we both know talks about a lot and she 1491 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,160 gets a lot of heat for talking about, you know, the food that 1492 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,840 that they feed to kids on the oncology floor. 1493 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,040 And people say the same things that they said to you, like, let 1494 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,120 these kids have their last dying wish. 1495 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,600 And her response is like, it doesn't have to be a dying wish. 1496 01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,200 Exactly. Yeah, exactly. 1497 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,680 And and that was something else too, that I'm so elated by with 1498 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,880 the Maha movement is that we've now said, if you're going to 1499 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,560 continue to serve this crap food to patients in a hospital, 1500 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,080 you're not going to be getting federal funding to some of 1501 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,800 these. So so yeah, these these are you 1502 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,960 cannot say like, is the Maha movement perfect? 1503 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,320 Have we accomplished everything in one year and a half that, you 1504 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,840 know, we want to accomplish? Absolutely not. 1505 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,920 But I would say the things that we have accomplished are, I 1506 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:31,480 mean, beyond our wildest dreams that no other president, no 1507 01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:33,320 other administration would have ever touched. 1508 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,320 Several months after your dad passed away, your boss, Charlie 1509 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,160 Kirk, was assassinated. I know that Charlie was a mentor 1510 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,440 and a friend to you and someone who you really looked up to. 1511 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,080 How has your faith helped you get through these tragedies that 1512 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:58,960 you faced so close together? Knowing that God allows these 1513 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:05,120 painful moments and trials and tribulations, and he uses them 1514 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,920 to sharpen us and make us better and grow our faith and rely on 1515 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,600 him more. And so when I feel like giving 1516 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,960 up or it feels like it's impossible, or I'm, you know, 1517 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,560 hit with some other devastating, heartbreaking situation like 1518 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,400 Charlie's murder after losing my dad or going through a breakup 1519 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:27,480 or what have you, it's like, OK, God, what are you teaching us in 1520 01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:30,760 this season? You know, how, how can I learn 1521 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,360 to love you more and trust you more? 1522 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,840 I mean, jeez, Erica is a prime example of that. 1523 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,720 She's absolutely going through the wringer. 1524 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,240 First Charlie's murder and everything that has happened 1525 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,280 after that and the way she's being absolutely torched and 1526 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,680 treated. It's like the Salem witch trials 1527 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:55,960 with Wi-Fi. When I see what she's walking 1528 01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,520 through, I mean, I'm like, I can, I can get through anything. 1529 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,400 She's still waking up every day, taking care of her kids, leading 1530 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,760 this organization, you know, and she does that because she feels 1531 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,080 like I need to honor my husband in this way. 1532 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,280 This is, this is what he would want. 1533 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:22,800 She is, she is the ideal, prime example of what a wife should 1534 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,840 be, even in his death, what a wife should be. 1535 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:33,400 It is the most heartbreaking, sad thing and beautiful thing 1536 01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:35,440 all at the same time that I've ever seen in my life. 1537 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,880 How is Charlie's legacy continuing to inspire the work 1538 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:44,400 that you're doing now? Charlie had a lot of integrity 1539 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,400 and Erica has she shared with me a story about, you know, there 1540 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:56,680 was a time that Charlie kind of didn't totally go with what his 1541 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:01,640 audience felt on an issue and he went with the president instead 1542 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,320 and greatly regretted it. Like felt like, oh, I let my 1543 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,800 audience down. I can never let that happen 1544 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:14,040 again type of a thing. And that has given me so much 1545 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,880 encouragement and strength walking through the season when 1546 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,000 I, I know what I'm doing, standing up against these 1547 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:26,000 pesticides is the right thing, despite, you know, whether it's 1548 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,200 people in the White House or what have you being angry about 1549 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,560 it. I know that I have, I have to 1550 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,160 maintain that integrity with my audience, what they would expect 1551 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,440 of me, what they, what they need from me to, to fight for them on 1552 01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:44,960 that issue. And I think that helps me be 1553 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,360 courageous because being courageous doesn't mean you're 1554 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,600 not afraid. It's very scary when the White 1555 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,000 House is mad at you. I can imagine it's a. 1556 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,520 Very scary feeling, one of the top scariest feelings I've ever 1557 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,960 felt. It's very scary when the White 1558 01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:02,280 House is mad at you. So it's not that I don't ever 1559 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,000 have fear. I have fear, but courage is 1560 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:14,600 action in spite of fear. And so Charlie really help set 1561 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,200 the building blocks for like to know what to do in those types 1562 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,120 of situations and maintain courage. 1563 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,280 And integrity. What's something about you that 1564 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:30,360 only your closest friends know? It's so hard because I have 1565 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,520 shared my entire life publicly since I was 18 years old. 1566 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,080 I mean, just working in media and whatever. 1567 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,120 I really do share everything. Maybe somebody doesn't know 1568 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,000 this, but I absolutely hate cheese. 1569 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,760 I do not eat cheese at all. That includes pizza. 1570 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,760 So none of that. OK, I didn't know. 1571 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,760 That Yeah, yeah, I absolutely don't like cheese. 1572 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,040 So really not a lot of Italian or Mexican food. 1573 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,640 Yeah, I have. I've shared, I've shared this 1574 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,840 before, but maybe if you're new to following me, you don't know 1575 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,680 this, but when I was in morning radio, I had to wake up at like 1576 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,200 4:00 in the morning and be on the air by 6:00 AM and I had to 1577 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,920 go to bed at like 7:00 PM, which was super unnatural. 1578 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,560 It's still light outside. And I started taking Ambien. 1579 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,960 And so this is the one and only pharmaceutical drug that I am 1580 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,200 still on. It is so hard for me to get off 1581 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,160 because my body basically has no idea how to sleep without it. 1582 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:22,160 And so I I desperately want to get off of this and have made a 1583 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,040 commitment that this summer I'm going to start strategically 1584 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,360 cutting down my milligrams and slowly weaning off because I 1585 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,360 don't like being reliant on this to sleep. 1586 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,040 My body has no idea how to sleep without it. 1587 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,560 Yeah, that's going to be a challenge. 1588 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,520 Some people may not know that, but like, I also, I did 1589 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,360 successfully get myself off Lexapro. 1590 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,640 I was put on that for absolutely no reason. 1591 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,000 My doctor asked me during the pandemic, like, are you stressed 1592 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:45,760 at work? And I was like, yeah. 1593 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,080 And she's like, well, you should take Lexapro. 1594 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,760 I'm like, OK, this is right before I learned everything that 1595 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,920 I know now. It was like the year before I 1596 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,360 had this whole health transformation. 1597 01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:55,920 It's like birth control. Back in the day, do you have 1598 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,360 period cramps? Do you have acne? 1599 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,720 OK, just take this. Exactly. 1600 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,680 So I got off Lexapro that I mean, most people have a really 1601 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,840 hard time getting off of that. Praise God. 1602 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,480 It was easy for me to get off Lexapro. 1603 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,560 I I still did it strategically taper off, but I need to do the 1604 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,000 same thing with Ambien. For some reason Ambien has been 1605 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,280 way harder for me to break. So I would say that's something 1606 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,800 people may not know. Pet peeves. 1607 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,840 I cannot stand when people flake out on plans. 1608 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,160 I cannot stand it. Like even just saying like 1609 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,440 overarching things like I'm, I'm, you know, let's plan to go 1610 01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:32,400 to this concert over the summer and then summer rolls around. 1611 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,760 It's like, oh, well, actually I made plans to go do this or 1612 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,160 something. I'm like, I am very serious 1613 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,040 about like when I make a plan or things like that and like, we're 1614 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,680 going to do it. So I don't like last minute 1615 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,080 cancellations. I actually feel like that's a 1616 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,960 big problem nowadays with like this whole protect your your 1617 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,880 peace narrative. It's rude. 1618 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,480 Protect your own boundaries at all costs. 1619 01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:55,160 It's. So rude. 1620 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,800 I can't stand that. I can't stand. 1621 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,400 I don't like having people like that in my circle. 1622 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,200 OK, something else that people don't know about me for sure. 1623 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,400 I guess I've never talked about this is I have an art. 1624 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:10,000 I have mastered the art form of boarding a plane walking on as 1625 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,560 they're boarding. So if I have a carry on. 1626 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,120 I will literally show up to the airport 10 minutes before 1627 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,200 boarding or even sometimes as boarding is starting and I will 1628 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,720 get through TSA cuz I have I clear and pre-check and I zip 1629 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,880 through and then I just walk on the plane as they're boarding. 1630 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,520 Has that ever backfired? If there's like a long line in 1631 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,720 in check in not never missed a flight. 1632 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,640 Never missed a flight yet? That's that's impressive. 1633 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,000 So right now a lot too. It's my magic trick. 1634 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,880 Yeah. And it drives my assistant nuts. 1635 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,880 She's always clenching her butt cheeks like, is she going to 1636 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,440 make naked? And she could have to be on the 1637 01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:48,640 next flight. So yeah, it drives her insane. 1638 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,720 But I'm known to do that. What culture apothecary episode 1639 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,520 has stirred up the most controversy or backlash amongst 1640 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,360 your audience? The nicotine episode. 1641 01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:59,840 I was. That was what I was thinking. 1642 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,480 The nicotine episode was so viral. 1643 01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:06,800 I interviewed Doctor Brian Artist last April or May and 1644 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,840 that went crazy online. And I mean, people were either 1645 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,480 furious that I did it said that that, you know, the episode was 1646 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:15,240 total medical misinformation needed to be taken down type of 1647 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,040 a thing. Or it was like, this episode has 1648 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,440 changed my life. I finally can smell again after 1649 01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:23,760 having COVID five years ago, or my chronic joint pain has 1650 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,120 completely disappeared. You know, I have Ms. symptoms 1651 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,400 that's cleared up, Parkinson's symptoms, that's cleared up. 1652 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,400 Like people are acting like it's a medical miracle now. 1653 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,120 I have still never tried it. So I have not tried nicotine at 1654 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,200 all, the patch or whatever. That's going to be my next 1655 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,640 question. Yeah, I haven't. 1656 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,560 I've been 2 chicken and I also don't have anything. 1657 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,640 I'm like, I don't know if this will help me. 1658 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,080 Like I don't have anything right now that I feel like I need it 1659 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,600 for. But I know that our friend 1660 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,440 Taylor Dukes likes the patches. She cuts those up and uses those 1661 01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:54,000 and she posted about that recently. 1662 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,360 Are you anti? No, no, I, I've used it. 1663 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,200 So I've used nicotine on and off for about the last five years, 1664 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,680 maybe six years. And 1st, I became interested in 1665 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,160 it because I was hearing about how it helps to prevent 1666 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,160 Alzheimer's and dementia. And there's actually real 1667 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,360 research on that and how it just gives mental clarity. 1668 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:18,760 And it for sure does. And so I enjoy taking it from 1669 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:25,040 time to time on small doses. I have gotten in in seasons 1670 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,600 where I've taken, I think too much of it for me. 1671 01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:33,360 But if I stay in that like 0 to 5 milligram range, I can have 1672 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,480 it. I cannot have it. 1673 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,680 It's fine. I don't feel like I need it, but 1674 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,240 I don't. That's not the range that most 1675 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,800 people are in with it. Most people are taking a lot 1676 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:46,680 more than that, like in the 20, thirty, 4050 milligram range at 1677 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,040 least. Most people I know that are 1678 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:52,440 doing nicotine are doing a lot more and become super reliant on 1679 01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:55,240 it from what I've seen. And I've experienced that it can 1680 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:59,000 be addictive personally as well. So I know Doctor Artis would say 1681 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,200 that it's not, but I do feel like it does have an addictive 1682 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:07,240 pull similar to even something like coffee, maybe even a little 1683 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,120 at this point now with my low dose of nicotine, Like I feel 1684 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,600 more addicted to coffee than I do nicotine, but at higher doses 1685 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,520 I think it can be like wildly addictive. 1686 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,880 I think marijuana is addictive. Yeah, I mean, I think almost 1687 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,200 anything can be, you know, exercise can be addictive as 1688 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,640 well. So I don't necessarily think 1689 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,080 that's a reason to not do it. But I do think that it's it's 1690 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,440 something people need to tread lightly with and kind of be 1691 01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:32,120 aware that it can become addictive. 1692 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,320 And it's not completely benign. Like it it it spikes cortisol a 1693 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,080 little bit. And, you know, there there's 1694 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,480 it's it's a stimulant of sorts. It's not like coffee. 1695 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:41,240 It leaves your body more quickly. 1696 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,600 So you don't, but you still don't want to take it like too 1697 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,080 close to bed. But I know people that fall 1698 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,520 asleep with a pouch in their mouth. 1699 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:47,960 Oh my God. I don't know how they do it. 1700 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,480 But I think that a lot of people do have an unhealthy 1701 01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,680 relationship with it. And I've had an unhealthy 1702 01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,280 relationship with it at times. But I feel like I'm I'm good 1703 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,680 with it right now. I can take it, I can leave it. 1704 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,880 It benefits me when I need it. And then when I don't need it, 1705 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,960 I'm fine. I love that. 1706 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,920 What episode or episodes of Cultural Apothecary does 1707 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,760 everyone need to listen to? The circadian rhythm episode 1708 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,000 with Thaddeus Owen is so good, it's probably one of my top 1709 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,320 favorites ever. The clean clothing episode with 1710 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,920 Hannah Dunning. OK, the gluten isn't the 1711 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,800 problem. It's the flour episode with Sue 1712 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,440 Becker. You got to listen to all the 1713 01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:29,720 Taylor Dukes episodes I've done. You've got to listen to my 1714 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,760 episode with Allison Evans from Branch Basics and then you. 1715 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,200 I've interviewed you. So people that listen to this, 1716 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,520 they can go back to my podcast and listen to my interview with 1717 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,840 you. Tell us the most regrettable 1718 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,560 health trend you've ever tried. OK, I would say it's more 1719 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,600 Wellness than health, but putting toothpaste on a pimple? 1720 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:48,800 I didn't even know people did that. 1721 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,720 Yeah, it does nothing. It like dries your face out so 1722 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,240 disgusting. And people say it like it'll 1723 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,280 help, it'll help cure your acne. It doesn't. 1724 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,480 Yeah, interesting. OK. 1725 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,480 What's a health trend or habit that you have 0 interest in, 1726 01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:04,800 even if you know it would be good for you? 1727 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,640 Cold plunging, absolutely. Get out of here with that. 1728 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,160 I will never. If it's not bathwater, I'm not 1729 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,120 getting in it. It has to be warm water. 1730 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,320 I don't do that. I can only do a cold plunge if 1731 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,680 I've done the sauna first and then the sauna after. 1732 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,360 Yeah, but I do enjoy. It I just I'm not convinced that 1733 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,160 cold plunging is good for women. That's a hot take. 1734 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,000 What does a day off look like for you? 1735 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,880 A day off for me is rotting. It is rotting. 1736 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,840 I want to binge watch shows. I want to lay out by the pool. 1737 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,200 I want to do nothing. I want to talk to nobody. 1738 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,320 I don't want to leave my house. I just want to stay home. 1739 01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:43,600 That is a day off to me because my job, everybody's like, what 1740 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,720 do you do for fun outside of work? 1741 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,440 I'm like, no, you don't understand what's fun outside of 1742 01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:50,320 work for me is doing nothing like that is fun because my job 1743 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,800 is so exciting and so cool and I'm very blessed and I love it 1744 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,920 so much. But I'm constantly traveling. 1745 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,920 I'm going to cool things. I'm, you know, I'm at the White 1746 01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,160 House, I'm, I'm doing this, which is it, which is just 1747 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,240 phenomenal. It's, it's a very blessed life, 1748 01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:05,080 but it's a very busy life. And so to be a normal person 1749 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,320 that has no plans is, is the best day ever for me. 1750 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,080 And if I can sprinkle in a spa day or a massage, then that 1751 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,160 takes it to the next level. That makes sense to me. 1752 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,400 Tell us about your relationship with exercise, because I think 1753 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,240 you've said historically that you are. 1754 01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:22,160 You were not someone who worked out a bunch. 1755 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,560 But then I know you did strength training for a while and I think 1756 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,640 recently you stopped and went back to Pilates. 1757 01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:32,000 Yes, I go through seasons, so I'm never going to be something 1758 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,960 that loves physical activity. I'm not athletic. 1759 01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,040 Exercise doesn't doesn't do it for me. 1760 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:38,520 I don't get happy after working out OK. 1761 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,680 I don't get those endorphins. It's miserable from start to 1762 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,680 finish for me. It's just I've never liked it. 1763 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,080 I don't think I ever will like it. 1764 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,840 I did go through a majority of last year. 1765 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,400 I did strength training, weight training with a personal 1766 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,480 trainer. It was so excruciatingly hard. 1767 01:26:56,480 --> 01:26:59,320 I was really proud of myself for doing it, but I needed a break. 1768 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,920 I think, you know, I started going through what when Charlie 1769 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,960 was murdered and stuff and I was trying to do that. 1770 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,640 It was like every time I try to work out because it's so 1771 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,960 physically hard. I was like crying throughout it 1772 01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,200 like it was so embarrassing. There's other people in the I 1773 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,600 was like, I can't do this. It was because like the, how 1774 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,000 hard it was physically was like taking out like all these 1775 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,000 emotions out of me. The whole whole thing was 1776 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,160 draining and it was embarrassing. 1777 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,360 I just didn't like it. So I was like, I got to take a 1778 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,840 break. I think it's incredibly 1779 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:23,960 important, especially in your 30. 1780 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,400 So I know that I need to get over this break very quickly. 1781 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,920 But then I've, I've, I try to do Pilates twice a week if I can, 1782 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,440 if I'm home, if I'm traveling, then I'm not doing it. 1783 01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:35,200 So I'm all over the place with my exercise. 1784 01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,760 I'm not super disciplined with it. 1785 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,360 I know that I should be. It's a non negotiable for me 1786 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,920 when I'm pregnant one day, God willing, that I will be doing 1787 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,800 strength training. So I'm going to be weight 1788 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,560 lifting then because I think that will help in labor. 1789 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,920 Yeah, that's smart. Well, Pilates gives you some 1790 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,440 resistance. Have you tried walking like 1791 01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:53,640 weighted vest walking at all? Haven't tried weighted vest 1792 01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,960 walking but I do walk every day twice a day. 1793 01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,040 Long walks with my dog. Nice, OK, I'll have to give you 1794 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,960 1 of mine to try. Maybe we can go on a weighted 1795 01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:03,600 weighted best walk while you're here. 1796 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,560 OK, I know our audience will also want to hear about your 1797 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,400 history with Botox and Filler and your decision to stop doing 1798 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,560 both. I started getting Botox and 1799 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:18,640 filler in my mid 20s and it was really marketed to me as this 1800 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,640 way to be preventable. It was, it was preventative 1801 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:26,120 Botox, it was anti aging, you know, and, and to some extent I 1802 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,760 think they that maybe it does work because you are preventing 1803 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,720 your, your face from settling into these, you know, different 1804 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,720 frowns or whatever that kind of start the, the fine lines from 1805 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,480 appearing. And so 2021 or 2022, I stopped 1806 01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:44,160 getting lip filler completely. So there was no more filler. 1807 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:48,400 And then in August of 2023 was the last time that I got Botox 1808 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,920 and I just did a little tiny bit in my forehead and then a little 1809 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,200 bit at the corners of my eyes center, you know, between the 1810 01:28:55,200 --> 01:29:01,120 eyebrows and was so sick after like a fever, chills, shivers 1811 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,560 for an entire week straight. And I thought this is not a good 1812 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,480 sign. Maybe I need to take a break 1813 01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:09,160 from Botox for a little bit. Took a break. 1814 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,400 A month later, my hair colorist is washing my hair and starts 1815 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,760 noticing that I'm, I'm losing all of this hair. 1816 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,080 And she's like, I think you need to go get your thyroid checked. 1817 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:24,360 So I go get my thyroid checked, find out I have Hashimoto's, or 1818 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,640 at least I'm very close. Like if, if Hashimoto's, you've 1819 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,200 got, you know, level 1, level 2, Level 3, full blown Hashimoto's, 1820 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,080 I'm level 2. So I'm like, I'm at a place 1821 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,880 where I can kind of keep it curved before it gets worse. 1822 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,720 And so, you know, they told me they were like, if you go get 1823 01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,640 Botox, you are completely flaring up your autoimmune. 1824 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,840 Like it could get worse. You could end up with with 1825 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:46,720 Botox. Poisoning. 1826 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,320 This is a conventional Dr. that told you. 1827 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,880 No, no, this is I went to, I went to somebody else, but that 1828 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,600 was their advice and that was all news to me. 1829 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,360 So I was like, OK, no more Botox and I have not gone sense. 1830 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,200 So I use Frownies. I'm not. 1831 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,560 I'm not even as disciplined on that as I should be, but I do 1832 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,160 use Frownies. How many times a week? 1833 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,360 I would say realistically, it's probably like once or twice, OK, 1834 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:07,800 and you're putting them like. Forehead. 1835 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,240 Like it's just, it's just forehead is all I'm doing. 1836 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,360 And then a little bit, yeah, I guess corners of the eyes, 1837 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,760 forehead area. And so that's all I do. 1838 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,520 And then I eat real food and people think that I'm lying, but 1839 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,360 I'm not lying. Yep, it starts internal. 1840 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,000 I yeah, I don't really know what else to say. 1841 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,960 Like I think on social media and different lighting and videos 1842 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,000 and professional lighting on podcast, maybe it looks like I 1843 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,440 have no lines or that I'm not moving my face, but I am 1844 01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:35,960 absolutely. I have lines that I move my 1845 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,560 face. Like you can tell in person. 1846 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,320 So yeah, there's no Botox at all. 1847 01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,560 And I was really scared to do that after several years because 1848 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,640 I just thought, oh, I'm going to start looking super old. 1849 01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,440 But I feel, I feel good. I feel good about it. 1850 01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:53,280 And I, and I'm, you know, feel even better knowing that I, I'm 1851 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,520 not going to end up poisoned or, or whatever. 1852 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,960 Like some of these women that have severe Botox poisoning, 1853 01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:02,480 their life is ruined completely. Yeah, and the stories are not 1854 01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:05,080 that rare anymore. I feel like I'm hearing about 1855 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,200 that on a weekly basis. I think it's possible the 1856 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,200 quality is getting worse. There's the corners being cut. 1857 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,520 Who knows? But I've opted out. 1858 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,200 And so, you know, we'll see. We'll see how the real food 1859 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,280 experiment goes. It's going great so far. 1860 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,480 You look incredible. What are your top three favorite 1861 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:24,000 podcasts right now? Well, obviously grounded 1862 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,960 Wellness I love Well by Arielle Laurie. 1863 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,240 I'm obsessed with her. Have you ever interviewed her? 1864 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:34,840 No, and I am like, I feel like I'm her biggest fan, like 1865 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,680 something about like being so filthy rich and so chill and 1866 01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,600 cool. Like some people are like I 1867 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,480 don't like listening to things or following people that are 1868 01:31:43,480 --> 01:31:45,880 super unrelatable. I love unrelatable people 1869 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,440 because to me it like gives me something to aspire to and it's 1870 01:31:48,440 --> 01:31:50,920 like very, it's, it's inspirational and and I'm like, 1871 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,240 wow, like I could be doing better. 1872 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,800 Like she's kicking ass. You know what I mean? 1873 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,520 And so to to me, I, I watch her like she is the coolest ever and 1874 01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,400 I'm like obsessed with her little skin care and she's not 1875 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,000 doing everything totally non-toxic, but I just think 1876 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,040 she's interesting. I think her life is interesting. 1877 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:05,600 So she's a favorite. She had Botox. 1878 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,400 Poisoning, right? She had Botox poisoning and now 1879 01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,920 she's not doing Botox anymore. She just turned 40 and and she 1880 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:14,360 looks phenomenal. And then, oh, and then I love 1881 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,000 the toast. OK, yeah, I haven't listened to 1882 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,920 that one. Yeah, it's just pop culture, 1883 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,440 like entertainment news. They're hilarious. 1884 01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:24,080 Two sisters, I I've listened to them for years and years and 1885 01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:24,960 years. So I would say they're a 1886 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,480 favorite. After a year and a half of 1887 01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:32,160 hosting Culture Apothecary and asking guests this question, I 1888 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:36,360 want to know your answer. If you could prescribe one 1889 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,560 remedy to heal a sick culture physically, emotionally, or 1890 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:45,840 spiritually, what would it be? I think right now, right now I 1891 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,960 really think my remedy is is natural sunlight. 1892 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:54,280 So it's so nice for me to be out filming here today because I'm 1893 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,720 usually under studio lights and it's horrible all day long. 1894 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:01,400 And so this is so beautiful when I started waking up with the 1895 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:05,360 sunrise and doing my sunset walks and then going to bed 1896 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,600 shortly after. Completely changed my life. 1897 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,160 I don't know how to explain it, but my sleep is better. 1898 01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,560 I don't even rely on an alarm unless I have a flight or 1899 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,240 something. I don't need to use an alarm. 1900 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:20,240 I I'm on this exact clock. I wake up every single morning 1901 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,680 between 5:30 and 6:30. I've got like an hour window of 1902 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,760 it somewhere in there. I'm waking up, which is usually 1903 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,640 plenty of time for whatever I have to do, and I think my sleep 1904 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:34,160 is is deeper. Even with Ambien like I I 1905 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,000 they're still sleep struggles that I have and it's definitely 1906 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,440 improved. I think if I am weaning off of a 1907 01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:43,240 sleeping pill while keeping my circadian rhythm in check, 1908 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:44,560 that's really going to help me out. 1909 01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,040 I love that. I'm absolutely obsessed with 1910 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,440 circadian biology right now as well, and I think that it's 1911 01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:53,000 something people are not paying enough attention to and not 1912 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,080 benefiting from. People are losing weight 1913 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:57,640 thinking they're circadian. Which makes sense because it 1914 01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,360 impacts are hormones. So there's even a verse in the 1915 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:05,520 Bible, I posted it this morning, Malachi 4 two, I think, and it 1916 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:09,240 talks about how the sun will rise with healing in its rays 1917 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,600 and something about providing like healing and nourishment to 1918 01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,600 the people. So yeah, I think that just in 1919 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,720 creation in general, God provides us with so many tools 1920 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,520 for healing and sunlight. It's one of the most powerful 1921 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,240 ones. It really is and. 1922 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,600 Including as well as grounding like we're both doing right now. 1923 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,200 That's the other thing. As soon as we got out of the 1924 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,640 airport, I walked barefoot and I and I said we're hugging this 1925 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,040 tree for extra credit. It sounds so lame and super Lib 1926 01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:38,560 and I'm not, but but genuinely, there's science behind this, 1927 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,920 right? It's it's touching these things 1928 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,800 that are rooted in the earth, in the ground. 1929 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,840 You're getting so many good energy, so much good energy and 1930 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,120 not in the woo woo sense, like like scientific energy that's 1931 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,600 just healing your cells and energizing you. 1932 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,000 You know what I'm saying, people when I say that like you got to 1933 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,440 walk on the earth and you're getting this energy, they're 1934 01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:57,280 like, OK, what are you going to do next? 1935 01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,840 You know, yoga, blah, blah, blah. 1936 01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:00,240 It's like, no, no, no, I don't mean it like that. 1937 01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,720 Well, it's like, if you have faith in God, why is it, why is 1938 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,560 it such a leap to believe that God would create the world that 1939 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,920 we live in in a way that nourishes and heals us 1940 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,240 naturally? Like to me that shouldn't be a 1941 01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,720 woo woo concept. Exactly how I feel. 1942 01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,200 Alex, this has been so wonderful. 1943 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,360 Thank you so much for coming on Grounded Wellness and thanks for 1944 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,600 being a trooper and trying to deliver Smoothie. 1945 01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,800 Tell our audience where they can find you and connect with you. 1946 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,400 Yeah, so you can follow Culture Apothecary on any platform that 1947 01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,560 you listen to podcasts. You can also watch the show Real 1948 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,200 Alex Clark on YouTube, and you can find me on Instagram at Real 1949 01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,600 Alex Clark. OK, And guys, be sure to check 1950 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,200 out my episode on Culture Apothecary, which is going live 1951 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,000 a few days after this one. Thanks so much for listening and 1952 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,840 thanks for being here, Alex. Absolutely.