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People forget about step one, 
it's the most important. 

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Today on Grounded Wellness we 
are joined by Doctor Daniel 

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Pompa, a leading voice in 
cellular healing and 

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detoxification. 
Until you get that cell working,

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where it's detoxing, where it's 
protecting the DNA, you won't 

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get well until you fix the cell.
Two decades ago, Doctor Pompa 

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experienced a mysterious illness
that left doctors stumped. 

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His journey through heavy metal 
toxicity, mold exposure, and 

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years of unexplainable symptoms 
forced him to dig deeper than 

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conventional medicine ever 
could. 

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Catastrophic storm when these 
meet and bam, and that's when 

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the gene gets triggered. 
That's when autoimmune happens. 

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That's when you say what 
happened to my life. 

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What he discovered has become 
his life's mission, helping 

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others uncover the hidden toxins
driving autoimmune conditions, 

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hormonal imbalances and chronic 
fatigue. 

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They're taking advantage of 
people looking for an answer. 

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I know people want it to be 
simple, but it's not that 

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simple. 
Let's dig in, Doctor Pompad. 

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Yeah. 
Thank you so much for being here

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today. 
How could I turn this down? 

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And I love it. 
You already downed your liver 

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smoothie before we. 
Oh yes, exactly, and the shoes 

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are off and the liver smoothies 
down. 

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I was so honored. 
Were we supposed to drink that 

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like another? 
I just like it. 

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I was honored because you said 
that you hate liver. 

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I do. 
I like liver. 

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I love the benefits of liver. 
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liver. 
But like, to me, like the, you 

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know, enjoyable. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Around it, I mean, yeah, this is
the only way that I can eat it. 

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That was perfect. 
That's why it is gone I'm. 

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So glad you liked it. 
Well, diving right in. 

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I want to hear a little bit 
about your story because now you

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share so much information 
online, but you didn't just 

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study the things that you talked
about, you lived it and you have

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so much lived experience. 
So tell us a little bit about 

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your story and your healing 
journey. 

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Yeah, I, I didn't choose any of 
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So be clear. 
It shows me, I believe for such 

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a time as this, you know, I, I 
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started in 1999 and 2001. 
Two, three, I was very sick and 

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just trying to get my own life 
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Honestly, everything I learned 
to do that, well, that's what I 

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taught doctors for 20 some years
and still teaching today. 

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You know, the most important 
part of that was is my wife 

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who's sitting over there. 
Many times she was on her knees 

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crying out to God for an answer 
for me, even for a family at 

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that time, we had two young 
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We have 5 now, but this 
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speaking to you now, she says 
God spoke to her clearly and I 

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know that sounds crazy, but if 
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spiritual. 
She's not you know anything woo 

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woo, nothing. 
It's like she said God spoke to 

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me and not only is he going to 
get you well meaning me, but 

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you're going to take a message 
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And when she would say that, it 
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with me then because my exact 
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well, it's like, like, what are 
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So I did not accept that then. 
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here today. 
She was right. 

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God was right through her. 
You know, that's what's 

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happened. 
So my, my passion, my purpose, 

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pain to purpose is in that 
promise. 

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So the my our saying is from 
pain to purpose to promise. 

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I love that and I remember 
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of your podcast just called Pain
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And I dug into that story. 
Yeah, I'd loved it. 

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Everyone listening should go 
back and listen to that episode.

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It's so encouraging. 
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most to me. 
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of your wife and how she stuck 
by your side and trusted in God 

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that that you would heal and you
know become the man that like 

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that she married because you 
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and you were one way and then 
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incredibly sensitive to a lot of
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where she would have to like 
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A lot of times you. 
Remembered that? 

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Well, yeah, you. 
Couldn't handle the noise? 

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And what role did her faith play
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Everything she was the rock, I 
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She was the hero of that whole 
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I mean, honestly, it's, you 
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know, I, they were young at the 
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they realize that her role in 
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Yeah, it's one of those things 
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much back then, but then in 
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old videos from when they were 
young, you know, and and they 

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they all looked at the videos 
and were like, they saw her role

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as like, you know, not realizing
what she really was in the rock.

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She really is. 
So I, I think they had an eye 

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opening like wow, like mom was 
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yeah, she was, she was the 
strength through it all. 

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I literally going through it. 
I tried to push her away. 

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When, when you're that, when 
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it's shame. 
It's all the, the traumas, you 

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know, that we unfortunately 
store up and, you know, cause us

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to misbehave. 
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even self pity, but I was trying
to push her away and yeah. 

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She didn't accept it. 
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I mean, honestly, I would say 
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yeah, right, I'm out of here, 
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treated this way. 
Or I brought so much stress to 

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her life, you know, she stuck 
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And what were you dealing with 
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were sick? 
Like what happened? 

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What were your symptoms? 
You know, I mean like so many 

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people where, you know, looking 
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energy loss, but that it was 
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Whereas some people it's kind of
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remember where it started. 
You know, your life is like, how

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did I get here? 
Mine was very abrupt. 

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So I thought I was just over 
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I was doing a lot of miles on my
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miles in and I was working a 
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So I thought, I'm just over 
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stressing myself. 
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getting better. 
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from just energy loss to like 
weird anxiety, weird, like weird

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symptoms, right? 
And then it went to insomnia 

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where I couldn't even get to 
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sleep. 
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sensitivity. 
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couldn't that's never happened 
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So it's kind of an abrupt 
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work out anymore. 
I'd go to the gym, work out, and

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it would just wipe me out. 
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Couldn't handle any more stress 
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Couldn't handle exercise is 
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You couldn't handle it. 
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the kids crying. 
You said she would take the kids

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out of the house because I 
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It would just just, I mean, it 
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So I became someone who I 
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remember like her like 
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counter. 
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Like it would just kill me. 
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not right, you know, And so I 
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my adrenals because surely I'm 
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And of course, every test would 
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but it wasn't my answer. 
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for thyroid problems. 
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addressed it and I wasn't it, 
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It's like still wasn't. 
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there was no lasting change. 
And really, you know, life was 

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still not livable. 
So yeah, I mean, it was through 

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more discovery that I found out 
what the real cause was. 

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And that's what today most 
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Even I have a lot of criticism 
for alternative medicine because

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I feel like we've moved further 
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instead of closer. 
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known for all about just getting
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And now I feel like it's kind 
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things more naturally, but still
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And that's. 
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medicine is doing with 
supplements what conventional 

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medicine has always done with 
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Yeah, I think so. 
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supplements, you know, and 
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for a medication. 
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I got my life back from getting 
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Which was mercury. 
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my perfect storm. 
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always say look for the perfect 
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What I mean by that is 3 
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there's typically a primary 
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other, you know, smaller storms 
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But if you remember the movie, 
it was 3 storms that came 

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together. 
They called a perfect storm, 

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catastrophic storm. 
When these meet and bam. 

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And that's when the gene gets 
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That's when autoimmune happens. 
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autoimmune. 
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symptoms. 
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happened to my life and that's 
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tries everything and nothing 
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Perfect storm and you know, 3 
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So yeah, mercury absolutely 
primary I, I had dental work 

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done right when right. 
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that, but that was kind of like 
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back right there was like what 
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It was already filling and then 
boom, now that overflowed the 

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bucket. 
When you had the fillings from 

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when? 
I had them removed. 

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So let me tell you how you even 
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So a year or so before that, I 
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endocrinologist from a natural 
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He was very good. 
He said, Dad, I think you have 

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mercury toxicity. 
I'm like, I thought so too. 

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I did blah, blah, blah, test 
this and that. 

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He said, well, look it, you 
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found Mad Hatter's disease and 
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were mercury poison, lead 
poison, and they obviously had a

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lot in their blood because they 
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My blood test was negative. 
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urine test was negative, but if 
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daily, it would have showed up. 
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So here I am a year or so later 
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would only be if you were 
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I think it's more chronic. 
Because it was already. 

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It had accumulated in your 
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up. 
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It was in the tissues, and 
that's heavy. 

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Metals are very difficult to 
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Even if you challenge them out 
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looking at what's in the brain. 
How do you find what's in the 

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brain? 
Biopsy, the only way. 

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Who's going to do that? 
No. 

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No one. 
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That the best studies on 
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biopsy studies like the draft 
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The number. 
The draft study was a German 

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study, but the number of silver 
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was portioned to how much 
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brain on autopsies. 
Proportional boom. 

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So ladies, the number of 
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I had them in my mouth. 
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mercury vapor goes right into 
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And that's the problem with 
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Our government protective bodies
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only this much aluminum in this 
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this much lead. 
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Well, the problem is, is they, 
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toxins. 
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what's stored. 
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living in a multi home unknowing
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cellular detox pathways and now 
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So what is safe for you? 
It becomes the the question. 

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But anyway, so the mercury that 
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which the thimerosal which 
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eighties and early 90s. 
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mercury directly in my eyes. 
It was in the saline solution. 

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There was a time in my life 
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Workout, needing a ton of tuna. 
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tuna. 
I eat tuna everyday. 

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Is mercury in tuna a legitimate 
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vilified? 
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tuna contains high amounts of 
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the mercury and renders it less 
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Is there any truth to that or is
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I think it's a legitimate 
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ethyl mercury in a vaccine, they
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mercury. 
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the safe mercury? 
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study, they were like, look, it,
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It's just absolutely gone. 

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because it was going into the 
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ability to cross into deep 
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saying, oh, you know, we saved 
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I wonder if that mercury's in 
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course, there it was. 
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And people didn't hear that part
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So it's not the safe mercury. 
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The ethyl mercury is worse than 
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tune. 
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mercury that's very, you know, 
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still a toxic source. 
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toxic sources like the ethyl 
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eyes, the ethyl mercury that was
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children. 
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to get this shut down, but I, I 
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place because, you know, RFK has
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out of mercury and aluminum have
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Trump just said he's like, why 
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Who thinks that's good? 
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toxic mercury and aluminum is. 
Like what? 

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Let's get it out of there. 
People don't understand it. 

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It's it's in there as an adjunct
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the immune system. 
We give a dead virus and we have

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to activate your immune system 
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reasons why anything else in 
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allergies to because you're 
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right? 
It wouldn't work without an 

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adjunct. 
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out, then I ask the question, 
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because they need they need 
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system and that's never going to
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vaccines, from fillings, it was 
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brain and far more dangerous 
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So when you look at the number 
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down here. 
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But it's like the media says, 
focus on this one so you don't 

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see this one. 
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highest like source, right and 
so and we don't even understand 

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that even like lead for example 
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that is actually the number one 
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And I, yeah, I would argue 
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What we get from mom and utero 
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And now here you are years 
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unknowing. 
It all started in utero, which 

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slowed down your cellular detox 
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Challenge them Now your cells 
aren't able efficiently to work 

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the way they should. 
And your energy starts to go 

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down as a first sign, right. 
And then your glutathione 

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pathways, that's a that's 
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remove things, toxins from the 
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Then your methylation, which is 
what protects your DNA and is 

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also part of detox, that starts 
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every toxin, the microplastics, 

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the pesticides, the other heavy 
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And we didn't realize that it 
was our exposure in uterus. 

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But yeah. 
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think in my one of my 
PowerPoints I show like, you 

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know how these sources amalgams 
vaccines and then down here is 

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fish. 
But this is what gives all the 

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attention. 
And you were you finally found 

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out that it was Mercury when you
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showed mercury. 
I should I have mercury LED an 

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odd pattern of a lot of stuff 
showing that my detox pathways 

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were absolutely challenged. 
Can you explain what a challenge

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test is? 
Yeah. 

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So you're taking a water soluble
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Those are water soluble key 
layers. 

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They work, but they come in, 
they pull, and then you measure 

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it on your urine. 
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Very, very sick people 
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that test even and I say this to
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because you look at it like 
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don't see anything. 
And that's now has become like a

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sign of that's a problem. 
So and oftentimes you ask 

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And they say I felt horrible 
actually, and yet nothing shows.

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So you know that it just backed 
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that's a that's a bad sign. 
There's to people are typically 

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very hard to detox and you have 
to work with them to get those 

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pathways working again even 
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So what I teach is you, there's 
a preparatory phase, a prep 

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phase before you go into a body 
phase, before you go into what 

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is a brain phase, because what 
is in the brain is years of 

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accumulation. 
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people really sick. 
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alternative medicine right now, 
if you will, functional medicine

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is three months of detox. 
And it's typically using weak 

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healers like Cruella, cilantro 
and it they don't work, they 

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make things worse. 
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it's years, not months. 
And that's what people don't 

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get. 
And so I've spent a lot of my 

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years being very, you know, 
critical about the detox. 

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We think it's as simple as 
sitting in a sauna. 

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I love saunas, but it's not 
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the brain. 
You have to be very specific 

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about that. 
OK. 

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I want to get more into into 
detox. 

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I first want to focus on your 
approach to treating the cell 

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and why cell health is so 
important for overall health 

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because I've always thought this
like we are going to manifest 

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diseases in different ways based
on our genetics and what we're 

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prone to. 
And I don't believe that genes 

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are our destiny, but it's like 
it all stems from the cell and 

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people just show their 
dysfunction in different ways. 

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And I love there's something you
say that's you don't get well 

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until the cell gets hell. 
Yeah, you don't get well. 

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You don't get well until you fix
the cell. 

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You, yeah, you won't get well. 
You don't get well until the 

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cell gets well. 
Until you fix the cell. 

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OK, until you fix the cell, can 
you explain what that means? 

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Yeah. 
So there's so much here, right? 

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So when as I was explaining 
right in the cells where we make

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energy or mitochondria, OK, so 
there's so much there because so

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the reason why people can't lose
weight, the reason why people 

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don't have energy, the reason 
why people have brain fog 

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arguably is that mitochondria, 
and we'll talk more about that. 

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But in the cells, you're also 
your DNA. 

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So to your point, your DNA is 
not your destiny. 

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The old dogma was you have 
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because your mother or father 
did. 

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Yeah, we know that's not true. 
I. 

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Think a lot of people still 
think. 

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That, yeah, because the medical 
field still thinks that even 

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though there's, I mean, 
scientific literature has 

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exploded that that's been gone. 
That is so old it's ridiculous. 

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But maybe 1 to 3% of diseases 
are purely genetic. 

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OK, that's it. 
The rest are epigenetic, meaning

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you that gene gets triggered, 
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So when toxins start building up
in the cell, that gene gets 

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triggered and turned on. 
And that's a problem when your 

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methylation decreases because 
toxins are building up in the 

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cell. 
That jaw, its job is to protect 

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that DNA. 
Now it's unprotected. 

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You trigger a gene turn on. 
Now the good news is you can 

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turn it off. 
So, but the fact is, is until 

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you get that cell working where 
it's detoxing, where it's 

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protecting the DNA, where you're
making normal amounts of energy,

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which determines how well you 
detox, how well your brain 

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works, right? 
All of that is determined by 

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what we do in the cell. 
So you get sick by yourself, but

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that's where the solution lies. 
So you won't get well until you 

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fix the cell. 
So that's why when people are 

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doing all this detox, it's like,
well, look, unless you up 

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regulate meaning get active 
again, what's broken the cells 

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removing toxins. 
Good luck. 

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You're not going to ever you're 
going to be doing this sauna, 

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this bath, this thing that you 
know, but it's this, this is 

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what broke in me. 
It wore down to the point of 

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exhaustion to the point where 
toxins now are coming out of the

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cell. 
And now if toxins build up in 

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the cell, you make less and less
energy. 

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You see, it's, it's this, you 
know, this give and take thing. 

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And, and the more the less 
energy you make, the worse the 

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detox gets. 
Oh, and the more inflammation 

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happens and the more 
inflammation happens, the less 

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energy you produce. 
It just keeps going around in a 

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circle. 
But the reality is, is that if 

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you don't fix those pathways, 
you don't ever get your hormones

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working normal. 
As a matter of fact, that cell 

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will stay inflamed and inflamed 
cell, every hormone that makes 

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you feel good stay thin like you
are your brain to work like it 

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should, right? 
Do you even know what a focus? 

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Walk in a room and know exactly 
why you're there, Not why did I 

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come here? 
OK, which brain focus? 

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So many people, you know, this 
is what they're suffering with, 

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OK? 
Those hormones have to attach to

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receptors that are right on that
cell, like this little thing. 

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Think of that as a hormone 
receptor right there. 

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Thyroid hormone is just one 
example. 

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I could be talking about 
progesterone, estrogen, 

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testosterone. 
It has to attach to that, and 

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then it gets its messenger 
itself in that cell, and you 

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feel normal. 
Everything works great. 

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You make normal energy, right? 
Thyroid hormone works within 

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your mitochondria in that cell, 
and you burn fat for energy when

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you're not eating. 
Everything's great, everything 

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works good. 
But what if something's blocking

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this receptor, damaging it 
maybe, And now thyroid hormone, 

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even though it's normal in your 
blood, even though maybe you 

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take it and make it normal in 
your blood, if that receptor is 

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damaged and that can't get in 
that it can't dock to that 

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receptor, utilize it, utilize 
it. 

452
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,320
So that's why it's very in vogue
right now, especially in 

453
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,720
alternative medicine to take 
bioidentical hormones. 

454
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,800
And there's a time and a place, 
especially if you don't have a 

455
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,080
gland to make them. 
But fact is, is that most often 

456
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,280
we're making blood levels 
normal. 

457
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,960
Matter of fact, when I was 
looking for an answer, I got all

458
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320
my blood work because I knew my 
thyroid wasn't working. 

459
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,880
But my blood work was still 
normal. 

460
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,520
Now, maybe in 10 years, five 
years, it would have been not 

461
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,160
normal, but it was still normal.
But what they didn't tell me was

462
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,800
my thyroid hormone, my cells 
were so toxic and inflamed that 

463
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320
it couldn't get to that 
receptor. 

464
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600
It's called hormone resistance. 
We understand insulin resistance

465
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,640
meaning. 
Which is also a hormone. 

466
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,440
Exactly. 
Yeah. 

467
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,120
So it makes sense. 
I've heard you talk about this 

468
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,000
like I've. 
But I've never heard anyone say 

469
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,640
this before, like describing the
concept of hormone resistance. 

470
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,040
But but yeah, I mean, if we can 
have insulin resistance, we can 

471
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,000
also have resistance to any 
hormone if the cell is. 

472
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,880
Blamed. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

473
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,840
So what are like, what is your 
detox protocol? 

474
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,960
You said it can take years. 
Is that typically the case for 

475
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,520
most people that they need to do
like spend years detoxing? 

476
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,720
Look, you know, it depends on 
the toxin, right? 

477
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,280
That they're major toxin. 
But once these pathways in the 

478
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,920
cell start to diminish, now you 
start accumulating all kinds of 

479
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,040
toxins, truthfully. 
But some people can do the right

480
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,240
my, what I'm known for is my 
cellular detox, OK, And I'll 

481
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,280
explain this process that I've 
developed and taught for 20 

482
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,800
years. 
But most some people can do the 

483
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,480
right detox three to six months 
and start to feel better where 

484
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,960
they start to like come on 
board. 

485
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,160
Right, just depends on the 
bucket. 

486
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,360
It's yeah, exactly. 
It depends on the bucket. 

487
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,720
Meaning this bucket, if we have 
two buckets, right? 

488
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,600
This one's because she hasn't 
drank her shake yet. 

489
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000
This one's very full. 
This one's empty because someone

490
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000
gluttonly just sucks. 
Chugged it down. 

491
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,560
I'm ready to drink her. 
Oh, yeah, I'm ready to drink 

492
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,320
her. 
OK, now, I'm not going to do 

493
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,960
this because it's too precious, 
but if this was water, I'd do if

494
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,040
I just put a little stress on 
this person because this 

495
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760
bucket's really full. 
Think of this as all of the 

496
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,720
physical, chemical and emotional
stressors and traumas that we 

497
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,720
accumulated from the womb, as I 
made pointed out earlier. 

498
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:09,560
And this person, even if there 
was just a little bit of water 

499
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520
in here, I could stress this. 
Look at this. 

500
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,880
No, you know, nothing comes out.
This one little bit of stress. 

501
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,880
This is where people are living 
their lives right here. 

502
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,160
This is where I was. 
And if you Remember Me saying 

503
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:23,000
when I got those amalgams 
drilled out, the mercury, my 

504
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,200
bucket was already so full it 
went right over, you know, so 

505
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,840
you know, that's when the gene 
gets triggered. 

506
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,760
That's when when your bucket 
gets to this point, now your 

507
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,440
cells are just exhausted. 
No wonder your energy outputs 

508
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,600
gone. 
No wonder you start triggering 

509
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,200
genes. 
No wonder all these bad 

510
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,760
symptoms. 
No wonder all the inflammation 

511
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,600
increases and blocks your 
hormones. 

512
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,800
Nothing works. 
Even diet doesn't work. 

513
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840
People are telling you to 
exercise more, you can't. 

514
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800
You don't have energy, you know,
and all the hormones you're 

515
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,960
taking, it kind of works and 
then it doesn't just 

516
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,160
supplements. 
They someone's won't even get 

517
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,880
into the inflamed cell half of 
them. 

518
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,880
So blood levels not a good 
indicator of how you feel, even 

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,360
if you make your blood look 
better. 

520
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,520
And I think that's why so many 
people are frustrated today who 

521
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,120
aren't feeling well and they go 
to their dark, they go to their 

522
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,640
doctor and the doctor says, 
sorry, everything's normal. 

523
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Like you must be imagining it. 
Absolutely. 

524
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960
Did you face that same 
frustration in your? 

525
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Absolutely. 
I mean, I they looked at me. 

526
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,640
I remember I spent $5000 on 
blood work, right? 

527
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,880
Hoping for an answer. 
And the doctor came out and 

528
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040
that's when I ran all that 
mercury test too, right? 

529
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,560
And he was like, you're 
healthier than me, son. 

530
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,880
And I'm like, you know, that's 
not what I wanted to hear. 

531
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,920
If you told me, you know, we 
think you have cancer, I'd be 

532
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,080
like, OK, fine, let's go. 
You know, it's like at least 

533
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,480
finally if there's. 
Something to fight. 

534
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,880
Something to fight. 
Yeah, That didn't happen that 

535
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,320
day. 
So, you know, my hormones look 

536
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,920
normal, You know, just some 
things a little out of range, 

537
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,680
but nothing that explained my 
illness. 

538
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,640
Right. 
And, and today we're spending a 

539
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,760
lot of money on, you know, 
different gut tests, snip tests,

540
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,520
these genetic tests, and they're
fun. 

541
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,400
They're in, you know, but it's 
really not looking to why you're

542
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,200
sick, you know, and your genes 
don't determine your destiny, 

543
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,160
nor do your snips. 
I have the MTHFRG and that's why

544
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,440
I'm talking. 
It's way more complicated than 

545
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,760
that. 
It's not so simple. 

546
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:16,760
And again, that the reason 
you're sick is something has 

547
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960
accumulated in your body. 
It's about removing, not just 

548
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,800
giving. 
So you know, and then I said I 

549
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,480
would explain the process. 
So step one, what I teach is up 

550
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,280
regulating all these functions. 
And we do that before we even 

551
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,440
start detoxing because that is 
critical. 

552
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,400
And in that prep phase, we get 
the cell starting to work the 

553
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,400
way it should. 
And then we strengthen all the 

554
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,320
downstream detox pathways. 
We support the liver, the 

555
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,720
kidney, the gut, the lymph. 
All that needs opened up before 

556
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,160
you ever think about detox. 
And that could take one month, 

557
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,160
it could take 3-4 depending on 
the person, just, you know, by a

558
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,040
lot of some of their functions 
starting to come back and then 

559
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,960
say, OK, let's step into detox. 
So. 

560
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,000
So you don't even start detox? 
Step 1 is just to get the 

561
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,280
downstream open up in this cell 
working. 

562
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,480
So what does that? 
So my 5 Rs is the road map. 

563
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,600
I used it to teach doctors as a 
road map of how you fix the cell

564
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,120
and how you start to detox the 
cell and it very quickly. 

565
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,280
Our number one is remove the 
source. 

566
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,120
Like meaning if you have silver 
fillings, tained mercury, let's 

567
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:23,600
let's get there. 
If you're living in a multi 

568
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,800
home, let's deal with that. 
If you have a cavitation 

569
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,040
infection and John, let's deal 
with that. 

570
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,120
You get it. 
OK, so different sources. 

571
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,160
We want to look at someone's 
life, remove them. 

572
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,840
OK, Does it makes sense? 
Our number 2 is regenerate the 

573
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,240
cell membrane. 
So again, this membrane on this 

574
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,920
apple, that's our cell for this 
talk. 

575
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,960
I'm molesting your bowl of 
apples here. 

576
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,520
I will eat this after. 
But you know, this membrane is 

577
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,080
where your hormone receptors 
are. 

578
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,080
The membrane determines what 
comes in the cell and what's 

579
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,720
able to come out the membrane. 
I do classes on just the cell 

580
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,840
membrane. 
I call it lipid therapy. 

581
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,800
How we fix the cell membrane and
diet plays a role here. 

582
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,640
I've developed a lot of products
here. 

583
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,520
What you avoid seed oils that 
people are hearing about, right?

584
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,080
The the damaging effects of seed
oils, the reason they're so 

585
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,920
dangerous. 
Omega 6 is so important in the 

586
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,720
cell membrane that rancid bad 
Omega 6 is goes right in and it 

587
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,920
incorporates into this membrane 
and it's there not for days, not

588
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,760
for months. 
Now newer studies show you up to

589
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760
two years half life of these 
things. 

590
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240
In the cell your cell men 
membranes from oxidated. 

591
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,600
Oxidated rancid fats, so it 
affects the function. 

592
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,920
So now you have toxins driving 
inflammation, blocking your 

593
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,000
hormone receptors, but now you 
have these bad fats too. 

594
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,200
I mean, American, we don't have 
a chance. 

595
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,600
I mean, think about it, you 
know, no wonder you go to Italy 

596
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,240
in these, but you don't see fat 
people like why they eat 20% 

597
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080
more carbs than we do. 
It's like, well, less 

598
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480
inflammation. 
The reason you can't use fat as 

599
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,400
energy has less to do with your 
diet than people might think. 

600
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,200
It's like it has a lot to do 
with how inflamed your cells 

601
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,920
are. 
So we look at just those two 

602
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,080
things and we really have to 
clean those up. 

603
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,600
But the membrane, there's a 
saying, I didn't come up with 

604
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,760
it, but life and death begins on
the membrane, your cellular out,

605
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,920
your hormone health, how your 
brain works right here. 

606
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,440
You know again when this is 
inflamed, diet doesn't work. 

607
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,760
That's what everything attaches 
to. 

608
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,000
Absolutely. 
Your diet, diet change seems 

609
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,840
like it doesn't work for you. 
You don't have energy, you still

610
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,560
don't lose weight. 
You know, it's all these things 

611
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,720
happen because the membrane 
determines your health. 

612
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,360
That's it. 
Our number 3 is restoring the 

613
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200
cell energy. 
If you don't restore the energy 

614
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920
and the ability of the 
mitochondria to make energy, 

615
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,880
then you won't up regulate all 
of these detox pathways. 

616
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,200
So then the cell's ability to 
get rid of toxins decreases and 

617
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,800
toxins build up, inflammation 
gets even more and R4 is 

618
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,480
reducing cellular inflammation. 
I teach a lot of strategies 

619
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,200
around that, but you have to 
diminish that inflammation and 

620
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,960
then R5 is re establishing 
methylation. 

621
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,520
I've already pointed out 
methylation is how we protect 

622
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,360
our genes, how we turn genes on 
and off. 

623
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,840
Methylation when it drops, 
glutathione drops of the cell's 

624
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,720
ability to detox and drops. 
If people watching this, the 

625
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,760
announcement of Tylenol causes 
autism. 

626
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,360
I had to do a video on it. 
I even did a little piece on my 

627
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,840
podcast about it because people,
a medical doctor friend of mine 

628
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,200
came to me and said, Dan, what, 
like Tylenol causes autism? 

629
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680
I said hold on. 
It's part of the 'cause it 

630
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,720
doesn't cause autism, meaning 
you can get autism without a 

631
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,760
mother taking Tylenol, although 
it increases the risk. 

632
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Why? 
Because it affects certain detox

633
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,520
pathways. 
It affects methylation, which is

634
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,520
part of detox directly. 
It can inhibit receptors 

635
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,200
specifically, even in the brain 
for folate, folate, folic acid 

636
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,760
is part of the methylation 
process to be successful. 

637
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,040
So if you're inhibiting that, 
now you're inhibiting 

638
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,240
methylation, especially in the 
brain. 

639
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,040
So inflammation occurs in the 
brain, which is where autism 

640
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,640
starts, and the gut. 
So that blocking that folate 

641
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,840
receptor and also effects a 
pathway called the P450, which 

642
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,320
is a detox pathway. 
Oh, and it also affects the 

643
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,800
liver. 
So it shuts down detox pathway. 

644
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,440
So Trump tipped his hand in 
that. 

645
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Well, it's not just Tylenol. 
People were wondering like, why 

646
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
was he talking about vaccines 
when it was acetaminophen and 

647
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Tylenol causes autism. 
Well, because see the toxins in 

648
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,240
vaccines, when you take Tylenol,
it reduces the ability to get 

649
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,600
rid of these toxins and they 
drive their neurotoxins, 

650
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,400
mercury, aluminum, and there's 
others, right? 

651
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,200
And so that's why that he was 
making recommendations about 

652
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200
vaccines because he wanted to 
say it's this combination, 

653
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,400
right? 
It's not just one. 

654
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600
So anyways, people didn't hear 
that necessarily. 

655
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,760
But anyway, so those are my 5R S
of how we start to get the cell 

656
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,640
working. 
And then Step 2 is we use real 

657
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,160
chelators, OK, not like 
cilantro, cruella and all these 

658
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,560
little things that people think 
or that it doesn't work that 

659
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,000
way. 
You have to use things that grab

660
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,480
on and don't let go. 
But we use them outside of the 

661
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,200
cell. 
When we start moving these 

662
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,600
toxins out, these chelators grab
on and make sure it goes all the

663
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,680
way out of the body. 
But functional medicine but uses

664
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800
chelators incorrectly. 
They don't use those in their 

665
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,880
half life, meaning they don't 
keep the levels up in your blood

666
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,400
long enough in between taking 
them. 

667
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,280
So you get redistribution. 
Yeah, exactly. 

668
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,680
And chelators. 
Have an effective chelator. 

669
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,760
So there's many like EDTA is an 
effective chelator, DMSADMPS, 

670
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,200
there's other ones now Dota, 
there's a lot of different key 

671
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,000
layers. 
But someone probably shouldn't 

672
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,640
just start taking those. 
No way. 

673
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,560
No way. 
Because again, they don't. 

674
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,480
People think you detox with 
those. 

675
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,200
No, it's still about that cell. 
Step one is fixing the cell. 

676
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,640
Step 2 is using chelators just 
so all chelators do is move it 

677
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,280
out of the body. 
They're water soluble anyway. 

678
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280
They don't get into your brain 
and fat tissue right there. 

679
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560
There's we have to get the cells
doing that and then we push them

680
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440
into these catchers, Mets if you
will, and pulls it out of the 

681
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640
body. 
People forget about step one. 

682
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,719
It's the most important. 
Step 2 is utilizing chelators. 

683
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,159
Step three, we use binders in 
the gut because a lot, lot of 

684
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,639
the toxins get brought to the 
liver. 

685
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,880
Bind A bile, which is a fatty 
substance used to digest fat, 

686
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,400
but it gets dumped in the gut 
eventually to be used for 

687
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,560
digestion, but it brings toxins 
with it. 

688
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,440
And then guess what, your body 
is designed to reabsorb the bile

689
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920
back to the liver. 
It brings the toxins right back.

690
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,920
It's called auto intoxication. 
So we have to stop that process.

691
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,360
So Step 3 is using binders 
correctly in the gut to make 

692
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,520
sure we don't auto intoxicate. 
I'm thinking about myself as 

693
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,159
you're saying this stuff because
like, I have a sauna that I use 

694
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:47,760
almost every day. 
And that's fine. 

695
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,719
I'm home. 
Yeah. 

696
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Sometimes I take I try to take 
some charcoal when I go in it. 

697
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,239
I don't know if that does. 
Anything. 

698
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,600
So charcoal isn't doing anything
for stomach toxins, right? 

699
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080
It's a gut binder. 
But here's the problem, right? 

700
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,720
So charcoals, most of them are 
dirty or they're not active 

701
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,200
enough to really matter. 
In products I've created. 

702
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,160
We get this one carbon. 
It's from Holland actually, but 

703
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,440
it's a very activated carbon. 
If you took some of it and went 

704
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,080
like this, you would see it go 
like this. 

705
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,480
That's how activated it is. 
And it's clean because a lot of 

706
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:27,080
the binders, bentonite clays, 
other carbon binders, you know, 

707
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,120
there's so zeolites, there's 
many of them, but they're very 

708
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,640
dirty because that fulvic acid, 
humic acids, they come from the 

709
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,960
ground and you have to make sure
they're clean. 

710
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,480
So a lot of people are taking 
binders. 

711
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,400
We take them in our lab and test
them almost 100% of time they're

712
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,320
dirty, maybe doesn't have heavy 
metals contaminants. 

713
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960
So you have to be very careful 
with those binders. 

714
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,000
But people take them and they 
think that is detox, right? 

715
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,720
Sitting your sauna is great. 
It stimulates heat shock, 

716
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,720
proteins. 
There's benefits right to it, 

717
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,800
but it in itself isn't going to 
get mercury and aluminum out of 

718
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,520
your brain as an example. 
Yeah. 

719
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,880
And is sauna something or you 
know any, any detox practice 

720
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,360
like is, are they something that
someone should just go out and 

721
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,840
start doing doing or would you 
recommend working with someone 

722
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,360
or does it kind of how you feel?
Yeah, well. 

723
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,440
Like I feel really good, but I 
know some people it makes them 

724
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,200
feel worse. 
Yeah, I, when I was sick, it 

725
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,360
made me feel worse, right? 
So you have to understand, cold 

726
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,480
baths, saunas, they work on a 
premise called hormesis, meaning

727
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,840
they stress you. 
And if you adapt, you feel 

728
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,120
better, right? 
If you don't, the next day 

729
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,960
especially, you feel worse. 
And you never associate it with 

730
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,440
the cold bath of the hot sauna 
you did, right? 

731
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,840
I was so sick. 
I would feel worse within two or

732
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560
three hours. 
I mean, I would just be like 

733
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,800
wiped out dizzy symptoms, right?
But I was super, super toxic. 

734
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,160
But always evaluate how you feel
the next day. 

735
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,760
Or even a nice thing about 
having like an aura ring or a 

736
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,440
way to look at your sleep is how
did, how did your sleep go that 

737
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,200
night after you did the cold 
bath, after you did the sauna? 

738
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,400
People were overdoing these 
things, but I love saunas as 

739
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,960
part of a detox pathway. 
People that are toxic, I always 

740
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,320
say do them on and on cycle. 
That's the other problem is that

741
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:20,040
people detox is cycled. 
Your detox cycle as a woman is 

742
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,720
cycle. 
Everything in nature cycles, 

743
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,960
season cycle. 
The way the earth cleans itself 

744
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,000
cycles. 
So detox is the same way. 

745
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,680
So we always start with a three 
day on, four day off cycle, 

746
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,680
threes on and four off. 
And then that determined if that

747
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,560
changes, it's determined by the 
person. 

748
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,000
Detox done correctly is very 
individualized and that's what 

749
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,080
my program does. 
It works with people 

750
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,080
individually. 
So you might do better with more

751
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,360
days on than someone else. 
Some people do better with a 

752
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,840
short cycle, but we'd have to do
at least three days. 

753
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,360
That way when we stop the key 
laters, you don't get this 

754
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
redistribution. 
So we minimize that by staying 

755
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,800
on at least three days. 
But I used to have to stay on 

756
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,920
five day cycles because if I 
would just do three days, day 2 

757
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,280
off, I would get worse. 
So staying on a little longer 

758
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,600
and then the doses is determined
by the individual. 

759
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,560
What chelators we use is 
determined by the individual and

760
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,320
that's different for everybody. 
So everyone wants like the detox

761
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,840
box. 
It's not so simple. 

762
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,080
We have we have a rooster. 
I know. 

763
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,640
Yeah, that's great. 
Is that the the geese over 

764
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,840
there? 
He's hiding. 

765
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,440
I don't even see him, man. 
Hey. 

766
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,960
What are some of your biggest 
detox pet peeves that you see 

767
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,440
online? 
You know, I, I do hate when 

768
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,680
people talk about like, you 
know, Cruella and these like 

769
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,520
weak binders as like the 
solution because people get to 

770
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,000
see by and I have no problem 
with Cruella. 

771
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,120
I think a clean Cruella can be 
very healthy, but I don't like 

772
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,720
when people think it's that 
simple, right? 

773
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,760
When people make this detox 
product like this is going to 

774
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,720
detox you. 
I hate it because someone that 

775
00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,360
was sick myself, I've, you know,
I too fell prey to that stuff. 

776
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,040
So it really bothers me because 
they're taking advantage of 

777
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,520
people looking for an answer. 
And it's not that simple. 

778
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,480
It's not, I know people want it 
to be simple, but it's not that 

779
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,000
simple. 
You accumulated these toxins 

780
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:16,680
from the womb to the tomb. 
And, you know, 30 years of 

781
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,800
accumulating it. 
And to think that this little 

782
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,360
bottle of whatever it is is 
going to cleanse you is 

783
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,040
absolutely irritating to me. 
And you know, and I am always at

784
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,960
places when someone says I did a
cleanse, I did a detox. 

785
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:34,280
And then I'm forced to listen to
like what they did. 

786
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,360
And really what they did is just
kind of started up. 

787
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,960
But you feel good about yourself
because you feel like you did a 

788
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,600
detox. 
There's a placebo effect. 

789
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,760
Yeah, exactly. 
And it's really not dealing with

790
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,360
the deep rooted persistent 
toxins that are in their tissue.

791
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,040
My goal now that I went from 
training doctors to bringing a 

792
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,200
message directly to people 
looking for an answer. 

793
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,080
That's my Papa program is to 
teach them the process because 

794
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,400
it is very individualized. 
Your program will be different 

795
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,840
than your husband's is an 
example just because your body's

796
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,240
going to like certain chelators,
your body's going to need 

797
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,400
different support. 
You're going to you're going to 

798
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,400
do better. 
Maybe with higher doses, maybe 

799
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560
this you know him lower doses is
very different. 

800
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,280
But to teach someone the process
so they can do it long enough to

801
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,920
matter. 
And I believe today with what's 

802
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,760
happening with our level of 
exposure to toxins. 

803
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Personal care products like that
you're bringing an answer to. 

804
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Obviously the food and water 
we're taking it, the homes we're

805
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,480
living in, what they've done in 
dentistry over the last, you 

806
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,280
know, 50 years has just been 
tragic in people's health. 

807
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:41,000
And these are the sources that 
people are ignoring, not 

808
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,640
understanding. 
But to get that out of your 

809
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,840
tissues, you better learn the 
process so you don't need me 

810
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,680
anymore. 
Yeah. 

811
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,840
And you mentioned that the first
step is removal. 

812
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,960
And that's something that I 
think everybody can do without, 

813
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,000
even like working with someone. 
Like we can be aware of these 

814
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,560
things on our own. 
And you do such a good job of 

815
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,360
educating about all the 
potentials. 

816
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,680
That's what my Instagram's 
about. 

817
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,600
Exactly. 
Exactly What are some of the 

818
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,280
biggest sources of toxins in our
environment that people aren't 

819
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,320
paying enough attention to? 
You know, I hate to say it, but 

820
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,000
the most basic violation that I 
see even in our space as I sit 

821
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,840
down with the gurus that most 
people would like think of as a 

822
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,680
guru, I go to dinner and I I 
watch the waiter waitress come 

823
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,400
over and pour tap water and I 
watch them drink it. 

824
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,240
And I go, oh, wow. 
Like I would never drink that. 

825
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,640
And it's like. 
I remember when my husband, so I

826
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,800
was talking to you earlier about
our farm Primal pastures, my 

827
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,160
husband and brother-in-law 
branched off and started Pasture

828
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,880
Bird, which is purely pasture 
raised chicken at a large scale.

829
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,120
Anyways, Purdue acquired that 
company. 

830
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,040
And so once that happened, I was
like, OK, Jeff, like we got to 

831
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,560
start. 
We got to just buy water. 

832
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640
If that's an investment we can 
make now, Like when we go out to

833
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,120
restaurants, we're always going 
to get bottle. 

834
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,080
And we probably should have done
that way before, but it's like, 

835
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,160
I don't know, it's something 
that just feels like this extra 

836
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,120
expense, but it's so important 
and so worth it. 

837
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,360
I'm not going to drink tap 
water. 

838
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,080
I because I know too much, 
right? 

839
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,200
But then I look at these people 
and I guess they run on the 

840
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,120
philosophy that, hey, I don't do
it all the time, but if I know 

841
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,200
that there's someone's, you 
know, hormones in that water, 

842
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,960
which there is. 
And explain how that happens, 

843
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,240
because I don't think most 
people understand how hormones 

844
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,000
could be in their tap. 
Water. 

845
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Yeah, in their tap water. 
Yeah. 

846
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,720
So obviously all these people, 
most of the hormones actually 

847
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,080
ironically go through their 
urine into the water. 

848
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,200
And that's normal. 
I mean, the body's not going to 

849
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,200
assimilate and utilize it all. 
So it ends up in the water that 

850
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,160
way. 
Now you would say yes, but we 

851
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,920
have filtration. 
City water is getting, you know,

852
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,640
filtered at the where they're 
putting chlorine in, right. 

853
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Yeah, they're, they're cleaning 
the water. 

854
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,760
Hormones, there's no filtration 
that they're doing that touch 

855
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,800
the hormones, it's too small. 
Yeah, that's the thing. 

856
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,240
The pharmaceuticals are all 
there. 

857
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,560
The hormones, the 
pharmaceuticals, that's how it 

858
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,080
ends up in the water. 
So, yeah, there's chlorine that 

859
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,840
they're adding, which is toxic, 
right? 

860
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,600
And they're doing it because 
there's other pathogens that 

861
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,240
they have to kill because that's
could be an issue. 

862
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,320
Then there's some fluoride, 
right. 

863
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,400
We're now finally hearing a lot 
about RFK is saying this is, you

864
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,560
know, this is a problem. 
It has been a problem. 

865
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,720
Everybody look, if you look at 
what was accepted by the 

866
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,240
government, our protective 
bodies years ago, it has gone 

867
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:39,240
down, you know, every five 
years, 10 years at least, it's 

868
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,360
gone down, down. 
What's accepted, What's why? 

869
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,000
Because they're doing studies, 
going, whoops, OK, let's listen,

870
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,560
let's listen. 
And of course, and that's why 

871
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,760
last August. 
To be our own advocates, we know

872
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,680
we've seen this pattern history 
and it's still happening with so

873
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,080
many things, so we can't just 
blindly trust what we're being 

874
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,880
told to. 
Know because exactly would they,

875
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,400
we told that that amounts fine 
for you, right? 

876
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,640
It's like, and it's healthy and 
it's good for your kids. 

877
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,520
And oh, and then they go to the 
dentist and they get even more 

878
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,840
and then they brush their teeth 
with a toothpaste that has 

879
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,400
fluoride because that's so good.
So fluoride is an absolute 

880
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,040
neurotoxin. 
Fluoride, you know, absolutely 

881
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,800
has effect on your child's IQ. 
Fluoride absolutely has an 

882
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,720
effect on, you know, the brain 
just in general, right? 

883
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,440
And has been shown to cause bone
cancer in boys. 

884
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,160
And so of course, the levels 
have gone down and down. 

885
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:33,360
And last August, that study was 
like the nail in the coffin to 

886
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,560
where people were like, OK. 
What was that study? 

887
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,800
It was basically a study showing
how it affected the brains, 

888
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,960
especially in children. 
It was a very, very clear study 

889
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,760
and I think probably the the 
best study that was done on the 

890
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,120
topic. 
And it got a lot of tension and 

891
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,120
and people acted like it was 
new. 

892
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,720
By the way, same thing with the 
Tylenol. 

893
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,960
I was like, this isn't new. 
I I remember a study from 2017 

894
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,320
that 1 from 2014 of, you know, 
Tylenol is a positive causative 

895
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,640
factor in, in, you know, autism 
spectrum disorders. 

896
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Yeah, exactly. 
So it's like, it's not something

897
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,280
new, right? 
People are coming out like it's 

898
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Trump's fault. 
Yeah. 

899
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:14,960
It's it's crazy. 
Yeah. 

900
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Would you go off on fabric 
softeners because this is one of

901
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,520
my biggest pet. 
Me too, yeah. 

902
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,880
So, OK, we talked about water. 
You said that. 

903
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,920
That's a big one, right? 
So change your water, get a darn

904
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,160
RO system, right? 
Don't drink city water, period, 

905
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,960
OK, and don't drink it out of 
plastic bottles, right, Because 

906
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,800
we've learned how damaging the 
microplastics are, right? 

907
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,840
240,000 micro plastics in one 
liter of water. 

908
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,680
I mean, that's too much. 
And we, you know, we accumulate 

909
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,960
about a credit card and we take 
in a credit card size of plastic

910
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,000
a week in, in autopsy studies, a
week on autopsy studies, they're

911
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
showing the weight. 
That's what we take in. 

912
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,760
Not, not what's stored is 
depending on your detox 

913
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,560
pathways, but we're talking 
about a teaspoon, the weight of 

914
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,120
teaspoon in the brains on 
autopsy studies accumulation. 

915
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Oh, and then we're finding it in
our part. 

916
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Our testes are, you know, 
ovaries and all of you know, 

917
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,480
those parts. 
It's like, my gosh, how do we 

918
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,280
all have shouldn't be there. 
OK, so. 

919
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,080
Cement to the human body. 
It's a testament to the human. 

920
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Body incredibly, we are made to 
be able to withstand so much. 

921
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,120
Isn't it true? 
I said all the time, right until

922
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,040
your perfect storm happens. 
But fabric softener? 

923
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,280
Oh, it's a pet peeve of mine. 
I I did a video. 

924
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,640
My wife and I were walking the 
dogs and I'm like, Oh my gosh, 

925
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,960
these poor people are sick. 
How do you know I can smell it? 

926
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,840
It's kind of the fabric software
pours out and you can smell what

927
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,680
homes are using fabric software.
And then the next house, Oh my 

928
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,520
gosh, these poor people are 
probably overweight and can't 

929
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,520
figure out why. 
You know, she's like, OK, you 

930
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,240
should just do a video on that 
because, you know, obviously you

931
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:56,000
can determine who's healthy by 
the ones that are so. 

932
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,080
Offensive. 
So offensive. 

933
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680
I mean, yes, I've experienced 
the same thing walking by 

934
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,080
certain houses and you just have
to imagine if I'm this like 

935
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,200
insulted physically, mentally, 
like walking past this, like 

936
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,520
these people are living in it 
and smelling it on their 

937
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,200
clothes. 
Oh, yeah. 

938
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,880
And then when they approach, you
smell them. 

939
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,720
Yeah. 
You're just like, oh, and here's

940
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,440
the thing. 
When I was sick, I was 

941
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,760
chemically sensitive. 
Fabric softener would set me 

942
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,800
off. 
I mean, I would get brain fog 

943
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,600
where I it would ruin my whole 
day. 

944
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,160
So I learned, you know, I 
despised those who wore and it 

945
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,600
was unfair to them, but, you 
know, 'cause they didn't know 

946
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,280
any better. 
But it is one of the worst 

947
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,520
things. 
There's on average 6 neurotoxins

948
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,960
in these things. 
Oh, and here's the thing, it 

949
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,080
goes, it's on your skin for how 
many hours? 

950
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,280
Oh, and then there's 
spreadsheets are washed in it. 

951
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,800
So technically you're being 
exposed all day long 24/7. 

952
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,280
But here's why it's absorbed, 
right? 

953
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,760
These neurotoxins go right in 
their hormone disruptors right 

954
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,000
through your skin. 
Like you put hormones on 

955
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,840
transdermally, meaning if you 
want them in your bloodstream 

956
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,640
fast, you put them on your skin.
That's what your clothes are 

957
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,360
doing. 
Those fragrances, they're not. 

958
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,040
They don't even have to tell you
what's in the fragrance because 

959
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,000
it's intellectual property laws 
that protect those companies. 

960
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,320
There's things that have been 
banned, cancer causers, hormone 

961
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,960
disruptors for years. 
And yet it's in the fragrances 

962
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,760
that are in what you're washing 
your clothes with. 

963
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,440
And by the way, change the 
detergent that you're washing 

964
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,560
your clothes with and don't use 
fabric softener. 

965
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,200
And it it is. 
That is my biggest test peeve. 

966
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,480
I hate fragrances and I hate 
them. 

967
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,520
I think the clothes is the worst
because you're absorbing it all 

968
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,240
day. 
Such easy things that people can

969
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:35,400
do. 
It's an easy switch. 

970
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,280
Yeah, it's an easy switch. 
Today it it it almost doesn't 

971
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,160
even cost more. 
So you can't. 

972
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,160
There's no excuse. 
I get some families cannot 

973
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,400
afford organic, although today I
think you should afford organic,

974
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,360
but at least eat from The Dirty 
off of the, you know, stay away 

975
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,480
from The Dirty dozen. 
Eat from the clean 15 if you 

976
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,560
can't afford it organic, but 
change what you're washing your 

977
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,560
clothes at. 
Yeah. 

978
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,760
And I think like some people 
would say, oh, it's too 

979
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,200
stressful to think about toxic 
exposures. 

980
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Like I had a conversation with 
someone. 

981
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,840
No, no. 
Stress is being sick. 

982
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,320
Stress is being sick. 
Stress is going. 

983
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Why don't I feel well? 
Why can't I think anymore? 

984
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,760
You know, it's like that stress,
Yeah. 

985
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,680
And it's these little things we 
can do that make a big 

986
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,920
difference and give us so much 
life back. 

987
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,160
You know, I you said it to start
this conversation. 

988
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,680
Look, you may not be able to, 
you know, do pompous program 

989
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,680
yourself. 
You know, you need a coach for 

990
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,040
that, right? 
But you can do this now. 

991
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,800
You can stop the all the rancid 
seed oils right now when you go 

992
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,160
to your grocery store, all you 
have to do is read the label and

993
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,280
say, OK, no sunflower seeds oil,
no vegetable, no canola oil, no 

994
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,640
soy oil, corn oil. 
I mean, come on, you can do 

995
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,080
that. 
Everyone can do that and buy 

996
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,840
products that don't have that. 
Everybody can change the fabric 

997
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,840
software. 
Everybody can drink RO water. 

998
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,240
Pretty simple. 
Take on What's your take on 

999
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:57,440
Botox and fillers? 
Yeah, I get in trouble, but I 

1000
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,400
don't care because I'm not a 
fan. 

1001
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,680
My wife and I, I'm 60, you know,
she's 58. 

1002
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,400
We've never had it and not going
to do it. 

1003
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:10,000
I don't care if I look older. 
I don't care because I know too 

1004
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,200
much. 
You know, those fillers stay in 

1005
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,880
there and people think they're 
going no, no, no. 

1006
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Newer studies are showing how it
blocks lymphatic flow. 

1007
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,560
Newer studies are showing that 
it's not here anymore, but now 

1008
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,560
it's here and they're seeing it 
on MRI's. 

1009
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,120
It moves. 
I interviewed a plastic surgeon 

1010
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,760
and he said that they find it in
Mr. Is over 10 years after it 

1011
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,480
was injected when most people 
would say oh it only lasts a few

1012
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,480
months but we are finding. 
And your immune system hates it.

1013
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,760
So I don't care what they. 
And by the way, I I don't like 

1014
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,880
it. 
I don't like the look. 

1015
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,720
I think a woman aging normally 
with wrinkles is actually 

1016
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:48,520
attractive. 
And, you know, I'm not alone on 

1017
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,240
this. 
Trust me. 

1018
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:52,760
I don't like this new look. 
OK, if we want to call it that 

1019
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,840
and add Ozempic to it. 
And, you know, I don't rob 

1020
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,160
Doctor Rob Woodfield. 
He's a very famous plastic 

1021
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,080
surgeon. 
I love him. 

1022
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,760
He he was talking about Ozempic 
face. 

1023
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,160
Now I talked about Ozempic butt.
You lose the butt goes. 

1024
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,080
I don't want to hear about micro
dosing 'cause you still get 

1025
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,920
Ozempic butt. 
Ozempic face just takes longer, 

1026
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,400
but the fact is is that you lose
the musculature in the face that

1027
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,280
gives you gorgeous pretty look 
that you have right and it gets 

1028
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,160
less and less and less and then 
they're adding fillers to it. 

1029
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,320
Now we have this zombie look. 
I mean, this is the look the 

1030
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,400
lips are coming out of the 
cheeks are coming up and then, 

1031
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,640
you know, this is normal. 
Now I can't even do it. 

1032
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,040
So I mean I'm. 
Listening and not watching needs

1033
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,640
to go back and watch what Doctor
Pompa just did to his face. 

1034
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,400
This is hard to know. 
Put the lips out. 

1035
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,760
I'm telling you, you know, it is
not a good look, and it's 

1036
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,840
getting worse. 
I mean, when you first start, 

1037
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,800
it's like, oh, OK, you know, 
that looks decent, but it 

1038
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,040
becomes this addiction. 
Well, yeah, you know. 

1039
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,840
Perception drift, where every 
time you look in the mirror that

1040
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,920
becomes your new normal and then
you make additional changes and 

1041
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,720
you get used to it and just keep
making these changes. 

1042
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,440
But then if you look back from, 
you know, five years ago where 

1043
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,160
you started you completely. 
Different and again I look I'm 

1044
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,760
not criticizing those who do it 
because they're caught in this 

1045
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,840
new paradigm social media is 
causing it comparing themselves 

1046
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,840
to others. 
So I, the heart is it, I get it,

1047
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,960
it's identity things. 
I mean, there's so much to it, 

1048
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,320
right? 
Just like, and we could talk 

1049
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,760
about breasts next and I'll 
really get in trouble and I'm 

1050
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,000
going to have all kinds of 
haters. 

1051
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,000
But the fact is, is that, you 
know, we're heading, we're 

1052
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,360
causing problems, you know, 
breast implant illness. 

1053
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:38,400
BII is now a huge thing. 
And unfortunately it's only 

1054
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,120
increasing as obviously the 
number of breast implants 

1055
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,480
increase. 
But now it's the years they're 

1056
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,680
in, right? 
Just like amalgam fillings. 

1057
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,040
No one gets amalgam fillings in 
and get sick right away. 

1058
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,680
It's years of accumulating this 
right And that's. 

1059
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,000
What? 
And the information then comes 

1060
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,800
out ten years later and I think.
There we go. 

1061
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,840
Yeah. 
Mindset of like, OK, what is 

1062
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,400
happening now that everyone 
thinks is normal? 

1063
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,600
That 10 years from now it's 
going to be common knowledge 

1064
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,120
that it actually causes a lot of
harm. 

1065
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,720
Listen, everyone was using HCG. 
Is it? 

1066
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,800
It was the Ozempic of the 80s 
and 90s right? 

1067
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Human chorionic growth factors 
where they get it from pregnant 

1068
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,360
women, urine. 
Bodybuilders used it to after a 

1069
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,880
cycle of testosterone. 
They would use it to basically 

1070
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,120
boost up, keep their hormones. 
They didn't get this post cycle 

1071
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,960
drop right and people realized 
that you could take it and go on

1072
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,360
low calorie diets, which low 
calorie diets work in the 

1073
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,600
beginning. 
You lose 1015 lbs and they stop 

1074
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,640
work because you lose muscle. 
Sound familiar? 

1075
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,920
Lose muscle and then the 
metabolism slows down. 

1076
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,160
That's what happens with 
Ozempic. 

1077
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,520
And then you stop losing weight.
But if you take HCG and 

1078
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,320
everybody when they took it 
because it was a hormone felt 

1079
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,920
better, everyone was like I feel
so good. 

1080
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,280
Ozempic and all these things are
positive and I'm losing weight. 

1081
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,480
I look better. 
Disaster it it just everyone's 

1082
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,560
hormones went to crap. 
People lose their hair. 

1083
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,200
Horrible. 
It ended in as I predicted it, 

1084
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,520
Everyone hated me. 
I wasn't doing social media 

1085
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,920
then, but I was telling everyone
that this is a mistake. 

1086
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,360
No one liked it, but here we 
are. 

1087
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Never going to outsmart God, 
never going to outsmart nature. 

1088
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,720
What else do you think people 
are doing now that is super 

1089
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:21,040
harmful? 
But like, people are just doing 

1090
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,040
it anyway. 
Well, you know. 

1091
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:25,640
I think that too many of these 
bioidentical hormones were 

1092
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,840
running into the problem. 
And again, I there there's a 

1093
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,320
time and a place I would argue 
right and bioidentical safer 

1094
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,920
than other, you know, just 
synthetics. 

1095
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:38,120
But and I think the issue really
is, is that it's it's just more 

1096
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,360
and more and more because their 
cells can't hear the hormones. 

1097
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,760
It takes more and more and I 
think that we're causing more 

1098
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,160
problems now than good. 
You know, women are now taking 

1099
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,840
testosterone women now because 
to see the problem isn't the low

1100
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,160
hormones everyone thinks. 
When you look at healthy 

1101
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,080
cultures, ancient cultures, 
people that live very simply, 

1102
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,840
primitively as a woman ages and 
goes through menopause or 

1103
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,880
hormone levels lower, it's 
normal. 

1104
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,760
Matter of fact, it protects them
from cancer. 

1105
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,960
It's that normal. 
So when you look at their blood 

1106
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,800
levels of hormones, you would 
say that in this country they'd 

1107
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,960
say that's pathological and no, 
it's normal. 

1108
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,080
The difference is they're 
healthy. 

1109
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,000
Their cells here, they become 
more sensitive to the lower 

1110
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,080
hormones. 
So their estrogen levels are 

1111
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,360
lower, their progesterone levels
are lower, their testosterone 

1112
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,400
levels are lower, but they can 
hear the hormone better and 

1113
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,640
they're healthy, right? 
But here do we think the answer 

1114
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,800
is, oh, hormones are lowering. 
Boom, let's give more hormones. 

1115
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,040
I I think. 
Chase those same levels that 

1116
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,600
people have when? 
Chase, chase and young level. 

1117
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,680
It's not meant to be that way. 
It's not meant to be. 

1118
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,080
You know, I, I've made an 
argument that yes, because of 

1119
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,240
plastics and these things that I
agree that some hormone levels 

1120
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:56,000
are far too low. 
I, I agree that you could 

1121
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,280
absolutely have too low of 
hormones for different reasons, 

1122
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,080
and that's a problem. 
But that's not what we're 

1123
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,440
seeing. 
We're going beyond it. 

1124
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:04,840
Here's what you have to 
understand too. 

1125
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,560
When in a intelligence in your 
body, hormones, people that are 

1126
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,080
really good with hormones, 
they'll say, well, you have to 

1127
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,080
be careful when you test your 
thyroid hormone. 

1128
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,480
It's going to be different in 
the morning than this in the 

1129
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,120
afternoon. 
Well, same with every hormone. 

1130
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,280
Meaning as even stress happens 
to the day, hormones change 

1131
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,040
throughout the day. 
It's normal. 

1132
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,280
Hormones change throughout your 
cycles of the month, Hormones 

1133
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,680
alter. 
Any intelligence does that. 

1134
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,200
Meaning when you are under a lot
of stress, all of a sudden 

1135
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,840
cortisol goes up. 
All these processes change or 

1136
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,640
estrogen levels change because 
it's figuring it out. 

1137
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,040
When you decide to take 
hormones, you're saying this is 

1138
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,200
it. 
You're taking an intelligence 

1139
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,760
out of the picture. 
You're taking the adaptation 

1140
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:52,640
that your stress adaptation, all
these adaptations to that happen

1141
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,600
daily, happen weekly, happen 
monthly. 

1142
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,120
You're taking that off the 
table. 

1143
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,240
That makes so much. 
Sense and that's not good. 

1144
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,680
Now again, I will be the first 
to say there is a time that you 

1145
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,240
have to do it because you're not
producing, you don't have a 

1146
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,680
gland etcetera. 
But my point is, is that we're 

1147
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,480
just reaching for the hormone 
instead of the cause of why you 

1148
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,800
hormonally aren't well. 
And as you're saying that, I'm 

1149
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,280
thinking about personal care 
products and beauty products 

1150
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,320
that women use that have these 
chemicals that disrupt their 

1151
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,880
hormones and probably also 
interfere with those natural 

1152
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,560
signals and fluctuations that 
are supposed to happen 

1153
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,760
throughout the day. 
Yeah, that they're those. 

1154
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,640
If you look at a woman's start 
to her day, what is it? 

1155
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,240
418 chemicals, according to HWG,
Right. 

1156
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,800
OK, So they're exposed to that 
on average, right? 

1157
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:42,520
Double a man typically. 
But out of that 289 I think 

1158
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,320
'cause or known cancer causers 
more than that are hormone 

1159
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,840
disruptors. 
Putting it on your skin every 

1160
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,320
day and you wonder why, you 
know, you have hormone 

1161
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,480
challenges. 
So you think the answer is just 

1162
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,640
taking hormones instead of 
saying wait a minute, let me our

1163
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,240
number one remove the sources. 
I think people think, oh, it's 

1164
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,120
just this one thing, it's just 
this deodorant. 

1165
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,640
It's just, I know, perfume. 
It's like it's all of that 

1166
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,720
combined and how they interact 
with each other. 

1167
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,160
We talked about the water, we 
talked about what you're washing

1168
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,040
your clothes in, you know, 
fabric softeners. 

1169
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,840
What about what are you're 
washing your dishes with? 

1170
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,960
Because it's going right into 
you. 

1171
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,840
What about the food? 
What about the makeup? 

1172
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,960
What about the shampoo? 
What about the lotion? 

1173
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,200
What about, you know, I mean it,
it just keeps going. 

1174
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,760
So the point is, is we're 
inundated the chemical 

1175
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:36,040
revolution after the, you know, 
World War 2 has caused the a new

1176
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,280
problem in humanity and these 
toxins are storing up like no 

1177
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,600
time ever in the history of 
humanity. 

1178
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,360
My kids generation is the first 
generation not out to live their

1179
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,680
outlive their parents. 
When you look at chronic 

1180
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,920
disease, it's almost 70% 
increase in the last 50 years of

1181
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,880
chronic disease, especially in 
children. 

1182
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,000
What the heck has happened? 
Toxicity is what's happened. 

1183
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,520
And I think some people just 
want to ignore it and assume 

1184
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,600
that every product that they're 
using and being sold is safe. 

1185
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,760
And you can do that, but you're 
really missing out on 

1186
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,640
opportunities to live a longer, 
healthier life. 

1187
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,840
So rather than just saying it's 
too stressful, I'm just going to

1188
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,600
keep doing what I'm doing. 
Like, yeah, sure. 

1189
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,120
But you're just making a choice 
to intentionally be naive to the

1190
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,080
reality of the toxic world that 
we live in. 

1191
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,640
Absolutely, there's no doubt. 
That's what I love so much about

1192
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,360
the information that you're 
sharing. 

1193
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,960
You and your wife travel a lot. 
What are some non-toxic travel 

1194
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,200
hacks that you have? 
I think on another podcast I 

1195
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,400
heard you say you guys bring 
your own toilet paper. 

1196
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,840
We do. 
We brought it on this trip. 

1197
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,720
What do you use? 
Well, we've tried different 

1198
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,080
brands. 
You know The Who is I love is. 

1199
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,800
Lauren. 
Yeah, Lauren. 

1200
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,560
Yes. 
Oh yeah. 

1201
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,200
What is? 
What's the name of it though? 

1202
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,920
You know? 
Brand is the skinny confident. 

1203
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,600
Yeah, you can find it skinny 
confidential, but I don't get 

1204
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,680
anything for promoting it. 
But I love it. 

1205
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,800
It's good. 
It it's, you know, it's firm. 

1206
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,040
My husband, yeah. 
His complaint is that it's like 

1207
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,200
too thin the brand. 
'S yeah, hers is great yeah, 

1208
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,080
that's a good one. 
But yeah, the the reason why is 

1209
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,320
because even the chlorine 
process of making it nice and 

1210
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,160
look beautifully white increases
dachshund and their cancer 

1211
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,960
causes. 
But the point is, is it's going 

1212
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,280
in tissues. 
That's like if you did this with

1213
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,520
toilet paper, it's not nearly 
like those tissues. 

1214
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,400
And so that's and there's major 
hormone disruptors in it, 

1215
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,680
formaldehyde. 
I mean, so you're putting in 

1216
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,760
those tissues not not a good 
idea. 

1217
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,600
So I you know, there's just 
certain big things and that's 

1218
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,200
one of them in my opinion. 
And I looked at the studies on 

1219
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,760
I'm like, yeah, I'm not not 
doing. 

1220
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,160
That I know when I first learned
about it, it wasn't that long 

1221
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,160
ago. 
It was like a year ago. 

1222
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,560
And I'm like, Oh my gosh, what? 
We've done this before. 

1223
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,240
I know this is the big one. 
Yeah. 

1224
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,000
Do you guys do on the road to 
stay healthy? 

1225
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,600
You know one thing you when you 
fly a lot, we always take iodine

1226
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,640
and we fast when we're on 
flights. 

1227
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,520
Ketones when you're fastest say 
protect you from radiation and 

1228
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,160
and then iodine is something 
that also protects you from 

1229
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,120
radiation, so. 
I take it. 

1230
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Before the flight. 
OK, I've been baking soda after 

1231
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,080
flying too. 
Can help with. 

1232
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,240
That. 
Oh, well, I didn't even know 

1233
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,920
that. 
Yeah, that taught me something. 

1234
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,480
I don't know why. 
I don't know, I've heard 

1235
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,440
something about how it like 
helps to detox from radiation 

1236
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,360
exposure. 
Yeah. 

1237
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,680
And and it's not so much 
detoxing from it as it's 

1238
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:30,080
protecting it from, you know, 
and glutathione products is 

1239
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,200
helpful to my, I've developed 
product called Cell Clear. 

1240
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,360
It raises intracellular 
glutathione that's also 

1241
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,520
protective. 
I recently saw a reel that you 

1242
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,720
did on alcohol and your 
breakdown surprised me a little 

1243
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,840
bit because you didn't condemn 
it entirely. 

1244
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,680
Can you give us your take on 
alcohol? 

1245
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,080
Hormesis. 
It's that premise that I said 

1246
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,440
people are violating. 
The reason cold baths work is 

1247
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,360
they are such a great stress, 
far greater than alcohol 

1248
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,920
actually, meaning the body 
thinks it's going to die. 

1249
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,600
So it up regulates 
norepinephrine, which can up 

1250
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,800
regulate growth hormone and have
all these positive effects if 

1251
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,200
you adapt. 
If you don't adapt, meaning you 

1252
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,280
did too cold, too long, and then
you didn't adapt, you just did 

1253
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,200
the opposite of what you were 
attending to do. 

1254
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,800
You lowered your immune system 
and you increased inflammation. 

1255
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,520
I love this take real quick. 
I just want to interrupt because

1256
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,560
so many people are very quick to
say either no one should be cold

1257
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,480
plunging, it's bad, or like 
everyone should do this 

1258
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,640
everyday. 
And what I'm hearing you say 

1259
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,920
like on and on is that you have 
to know your body and know 

1260
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,040
intuitively, like if something 
is working for you or working 

1261
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,480
against you, like are you strong
enough to handle this stressor 

1262
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,840
or are you not? 
And I think just learning that 

1263
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,560
about yourself and may not, 
maybe it's not a forever thing. 

1264
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,520
Maybe it's just like right now, 
this season in life, this feels 

1265
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,120
too stressful, whatever this 
thing is. 

1266
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,880
And so I just, I love that. 
And I see people violate 

1267
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,120
hormesis. 
You know, the, the best way to 

1268
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,280
understand it is exercise, that 
when you exercise, it's a 

1269
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,720
stress. 
If you adapt, you get stronger, 

1270
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,520
faster, etcetera. 
If you don't adapt, many people 

1271
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,840
overtrain and they're actually 
the opposite happens. 

1272
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,680
It's a negative, it creates 
inflammation. 

1273
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,720
You're not sleeping as good, you
keep getting injured. 

1274
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,320
That's a sign that you're 
overtraining that you know, good

1275
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,680
trainers, they know that very 
little happens in the gym. 

1276
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,360
It's the adaptation, the 
recovery that matters the most. 

1277
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,800
That's why they're making sure 
you're sleeping good, your 

1278
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,520
nutrition's good, all these 
things that raises the hormatic 

1279
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,840
ceiling. 
It's called meaning your ability

1280
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,840
to adapt. 
Then the trainer can stress you 

1281
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,360
more and get a better outcome. 
So a trainer, if you don't do, 

1282
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,760
if you do the same exercise all 
the time, it becomes not 

1283
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,560
stressful anymore. 
The body, then you're not 

1284
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,760
adapting, you're not getting 
stronger. 

1285
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,480
And studies show you actually 
become weaker. 

1286
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,080
So it's like it's crazy, but it 
becomes this odd negative. 

1287
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,520
But the fact is, is that you 
have to increase the stress. 

1288
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,120
That's why exercise variation 
creates the body going, oh, this

1289
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,280
is different. 
OK, Yeah. 

1290
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,600
And then it has to adapt. 
And if you adapt, you get 

1291
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,960
better, right? 
So trainers are constantly 

1292
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,920
adapting the stress or changing 
the stress to change your 

1293
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,400
ability to adapt. 
And they're constantly focused 

1294
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,520
on your heart rate, your heart 
rate variability, how you 

1295
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,160
sleeping as signs. 
How do you feel? 

1296
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,440
You more tired. 
You seem more tired this week. 

1297
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,320
Let's back off. 
Let's go less intense. 

1298
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,440
As a cyclist, we monitored all 
those things constantly and we 

1299
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,320
would never do the same 
routines. 

1300
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,880
We would do really intense 
times, see how our body adapted 

1301
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,400
to that. 
If it didn't adapt that well, we

1302
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,120
wouldn't go as intense and we'd 
come off of that intensity and 

1303
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,480
go less intense. 
I say all that just to show you 

1304
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,320
the complexity of this. 
So we're not bringing that into 

1305
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,880
cold baths, saunas, detox, 
fasting. 

1306
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,360
Fasting is another violation. 
I've taught. 

1307
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,560
Yeah. 
I mean, I've taught fasting for,

1308
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,120
you know, years. 
And I couldn't get anyone to pay

1309
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,520
attention because people still 
thought you'd just die without 

1310
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,320
food. 
But now I'm going around saying 

1311
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,360
the feast is as important. 
As the fast. 

1312
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,280
Thank you. 
I love fasting and I've done it 

1313
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,040
on and off over the last several
years like in between 

1314
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,000
pregnancies and breastfeeding 
and whatnot and I have gotten 

1315
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,000
such good results from it and 
have felt so good and clear 

1316
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,440
headed when I do fast. 
But then also there's people who

1317
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,560
say that women should never 
fast, it's bad for their 

1318
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,480
hormones. 
But I've I'm with you, I think 

1319
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,400
that like how you refeed matters
so much like how you're eating 

1320
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,280
going into it. 
And I've always like really been

1321
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,920
careful about that, like 
prioritizing really nutrient 

1322
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,400
dense most of the time, like 
animal based foods to nourish 

1323
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,800
myself after a fast and have 
gotten really good results. 

1324
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,320
But I know it can be done to 
excess and people can be. 

1325
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,240
I think to close this loop, you 
know, you had said earlier, 

1326
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,800
right, Like it's said that women
there's a new study now, you 

1327
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,640
know, cold baths for women. 
And I've been saying this for 

1328
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,560
years. 
But again, it's not that women 

1329
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,640
shouldn't do cold baths. 
Women should be more cautious 

1330
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,120
with how cold it is in the time,
you know, they're they're male 

1331
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,000
time of the month. 
Their male counterparts 

1332
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,840
typically can do more and even 
more cold, but that doesn't mean

1333
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,360
that they can't benefit from a 
cold bath. 

1334
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,400
But you absolutely less is best.
Absolutely monitor how you feel.

1335
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,960
How do you slept later that day,
that night? 

1336
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,360
And how do you feel the next 
day, which people don't 

1337
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,240
associate often times. 
So women typically should do 

1338
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,600
less and same with fasting 
women. 

1339
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,800
You know, people say women 
shouldn't fast. 

1340
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,480
No, women should just fast 
differently than a man. 

1341
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,360
And absolutely most likely have 
more feast days. 

1342
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,600
So intermittent fasting daily 
where people eat one or two 

1343
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,440
meals in a window, people are 
doing too much of it. 

1344
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,640
What happens is the body will 
eventually start to think it's 

1345
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,640
starving like a low calorie 
diet, and then it starts holding

1346
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,040
on to your fat and losing 
muscle. 

1347
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Not good. 
Becomes counterproductive. 

1348
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,880
Absolutely. 
So women, people with thyroid 

1349
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:55,440
issues, adrenal issues, they 
need more feast days, 1-2, even 

1350
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,000
three days a week where they 
feast, they get up and eat 3 

1351
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,240
meals that day. 
Maybe it's high protein for 

1352
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,240
three days of the week, like 
really high, you know, a gram 

1353
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,280
per pound of body weight. 
Maybe it's high carbs if they're

1354
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,840
low carbs for three days a week.
Feast famine is the key. 

1355
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,360
So women and like I said, 
hormone challenge, people need 

1356
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,680
to do more feast if they're 
going to fast and when if you 

1357
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,920
do, I'm a teacher of five day 
fasting, whether it's a water 

1358
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,840
fast or a partial fast. 
And we can talk about what that 

1359
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,280
is, but I find another time 
during the month where we five 

1360
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,840
day feast, high protein, high 
carbs, whatever it is, but 

1361
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,760
feasting is as important. 
By the way, there are two 

1362
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,320
different pathways. 
So the benefits of fasting is a 

1363
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,120
pathway called autophagy. 
That means your body gets rid of

1364
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,560
bad cells, right? 
Senescent cells, cells that live

1365
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,280
too long, cells that Dr. 
inflammation age prematurely. 

1366
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,040
Yeah. 
So during a fast, your body gets

1367
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,440
rid of them, and it stimulates a
stem cell to replace it. 

1368
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,000
So we rebuild. 
We tear down and rebuild. 

1369
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,400
It's great. 
But that's a catabolic pathway. 

1370
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,640
That means your body goes into 
getting rid of things, right? 

1371
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,440
So therefore, it wants to 
rebuild. 

1372
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,720
That's why moving into a feast, 
not right after the fast. 

1373
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,120
You know that giving too much 
easing into it, but then the 

1374
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:17,600
feast is a pathway called M Tor.
Now ager people that are like 

1375
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,359
anti agers like they they want 
to do everything to slow down. 

1376
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,160
They melonize M Tor M Tor age 
you prematurely. 

1377
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,160
M Tor is bad. 
M Tor is bad. 

1378
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,520
Bodybuilders love M Tor because 
it's an anabolic pathway. 

1379
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,319
It builds you right. 
Well, see, they're both right 

1380
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:33,640
and wrong. 
You know this pathway can be 

1381
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,960
very healing. 
It's like if you eat high 

1382
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,640
protein, you go M Tor and your 
joints will feel better. 

1383
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,720
You'll go healing, but if you 
stay emptor all the time, 

1384
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,160
they're right. 
It will aid you prematurely, 

1385
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,120
right so. 
It's amazing. 

1386
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,840
There's a season forever. 
I'm thinking this is like very 

1387
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,240
biblical too, Like seasons for 
fasting. 

1388
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,240
There's a time for fasting. 
There's a time for feasting. 

1389
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,880
Absolutely. 
In ancient cultures they were 

1390
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,040
forced into times of family, 
right? 

1391
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,080
It's like and. 
My species survived. 

1392
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,840
Yeah, absolutely. 
And I believe genetically we're 

1393
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,479
set up for that now. 
We are. 

1394
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,640
It helps you, but they feasted 
when they have it. 

1395
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,720
They weren't counting calories 
when they had it, they ate it 

1396
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,640
and that and when we emulate 
feast famine and and by the way,

1397
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,080
that's one of my principles that
I've taught doctors, a diet 

1398
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,760
variation, why it's important to
change your diet and feast 

1399
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:27,200
famine cycling, why you need 
both and the magic is in that 

1400
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:28,840
change. 
Love that. 

1401
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,520
OK, so back to alcohol, how we 
started this conversation. 

1402
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,279
That's right, we were talking 
about how it actually can have 

1403
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:37,960
a. 
Herpetic So now that you all 

1404
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,840
know a lot about Hermesis and 
you know everything from all 

1405
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,880
those perspectives, I'm so glad 
that you closed that loop. 

1406
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:50,800
So my video was everyone's 
against alcohol right now, 

1407
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,439
right? 
Vilifying alcohol. 

1408
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,760
But again, when you look at all 
these healthy countries, when 

1409
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,040
you go to Italy and France, and 
I mean, every cut, they drink a 

1410
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,800
little bit of alcohol and they 
typically do it with a meal. 

1411
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,480
My uncle lived to 96 and he had 
wine with every dinner. 

1412
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,320
Yeah. 
And again, I, I could easily, 

1413
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,360
from a scientific standpoint, 
make the argument, show you that

1414
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,680
a little alcohol creates 
hormesis, meaning it's a stress 

1415
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,240
that up regulates cellular 
glutathione. 

1416
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,560
And all these positive things 
happen. 

1417
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,520
But again, here's where people 
make the mistake is everybody's 

1418
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,240
hormitic ceiling, how much they 
can adapt to. 

1419
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,600
And, you know, tolerate is 
different than the next 

1420
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,320
person's. 
I would be the first to say 

1421
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,000
there's people who should never 
drink alcohol, especially people

1422
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,160
who get addicted to it. 
Right. 

1423
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,720
Alcoholics. 
Absolutely never. 

1424
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,080
When I was sick, I couldn't 
drink any because my bucket was 

1425
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,160
full. 
Oh, look, you drank it. 

1426
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,360
I didn't even see you drinking. 
Yeah, yeah, I didn't see that 

1427
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,040
happen. 
But anyway, my bucket was so 

1428
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,960
full I couldn't adapt to the 
stress of cold hot, too hot of 

1429
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,600
showers, I would be wiped out. 
Too cold a shower. 

1430
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,920
When I'd go out in the winter, I
had to bundle up because it 

1431
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,600
would wipe me out the cold. 
Meaning all of those are 

1432
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,240
stressors and I couldn't adapt. 
So I couldn't drop to any 

1433
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,440
alcohol, like 2 sips, my heart 
would burn. 

1434
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,040
Right? 
So it's hot and cold bad? 

1435
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,640
No. 
Is alcohol bad? 

1436
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,480
No, but too much of any of it 
can be very bad. 

1437
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:19,960
So everyone's hormitic ability 
to deal with alcohol is very 

1438
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,320
different. 
So you know how much of that it 

1439
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,880
could be 0 for you and it could 
be one to two drinks for me. 

1440
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:31,680
If I have 3 drinks, my my aura 
ring will show me my heart rate 

1441
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,760
variability drops. 
My heart rate goes up, not good 

1442
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,080
for me. 
I will cause every problem that 

1443
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,720
they say it becomes very toxic 
for me. 

1444
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,160
If I have one glass of wine, no 
problem. 

1445
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,440
I I think it actually makes my 
sleep better. 

1446
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,280
So the point is, is what is your
hermetic ceiling? 

1447
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,600
How much can you tolerate? 
Just like cold baths, you know, 

1448
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,120
it's different for everybody, 
but I absolutely believe a 

1449
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,360
little bit of alcohol could be 
good depending on the person. 

1450
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,320
What do you think about coffee? 
Same thing. 

1451
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,280
So again, some people I always 
say because the question is, is 

1452
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,640
does coffee break my 
intermittent fasting window? 

1453
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,680
And my answer is I don't know 
test because it's different for 

1454
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,680
everybody. 
So my wife, her morning coffee 

1455
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,520
and here's how you test. 
You get a glucose ketone meter, 

1456
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:20,920
but you just need a glucose 
meter. 

1457
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,920
And first thing in the morning 
before you do anything, you test

1458
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,120
your glucose for like 3 days in 
a row and then 30 minutes after 

1459
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,040
you test. 
So you write it down. 

1460
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,640
Let's say it's. 
People can buy these meters on 

1461
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,040
Amazon it you prick your finger.
And then read it right I. 

1462
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,400
Have one of. 
Those and so you test it. 30 

1463
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,040
minutes later you drink your 
coffee. 

1464
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,480
So let's say it's 90 when you 
first got up, drink your coffee,

1465
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,080
test it again. 
Let's say that it goes up to 100

1466
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,480
your your glucose. 
And if that your average goes up

1467
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,520
when you did the average over 
those three days, your coffee is

1468
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,640
not good for you. 
You're spiking blood cortisol, 

1469
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,480
probably when spiked your 
glucose levels, you're coming 

1470
01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:04,120
out of your fasting window. 
By doing that, you're breaking 

1471
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,840
autophagy. 
So then, OK, great. 

1472
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,880
Add fat to it. 
Maybe it does better for you, 

1473
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,240
maybe not. 
OK, great. 

1474
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,960
Try a different coffee. 
Maybe it's a moldy coffee. 

1475
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,440
Yeah. 
My point is, is that or maybe 

1476
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:16,920
you can't tolerate caffeine at 
all. 

1477
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,400
That's the point. 
It's different for you than me. 

1478
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,960
So your coffee may or may not be
good for you. 

1479
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,560
Yeah. 
What do you think about 

1480
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,800
nicotine? 
Again, I, I, you know, I'm 

1481
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,320
probably more critical about 
nicotine because it's 

1482
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,200
addictiveness, right? 
But again, some people can do a 

1483
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,680
certain amount and never get 
addicted. 

1484
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,200
Other people, they get addicted 
just like that. 

1485
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,960
Nicotine is very, very addictive
and very hard to break out. 

1486
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,040
Two of my kids got addicted to 
it and at first they were on 

1487
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,200
very small amounts. 
And they were. 

1488
01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:50,680
It gave them focus and they 
loved it. 

1489
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:54,360
In those little zens, they 
started by doing like, you know,

1490
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:56,600
one or two a day, right? 
Small amount. 

1491
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,040
Arguably, you could prove that a
small amount of nicotine could 

1492
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,720
be beneficial. 
OK. 

1493
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,840
Same with the alcohol, right? 
Or medically. 

1494
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,600
The difference is nicotine can 
be used every day. 

1495
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,400
Every day. 
I mean, so could alcohol, right?

1496
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,440
So too much is not good. 
But how much are you doing now? 

1497
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,160
I mean, in other words, I 
promise you, because the how 

1498
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,120
addictive it is, you probably 
crossed the line into too much. 

1499
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,680
My kids were doing like a can of
those a day, which is like 

1500
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,760
massive amount. 
Yeah, exactly so. 

1501
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,480
And. 
Did they get off of it? 

1502
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,160
So both of them will quit. 
But my son who was addicted to 

1503
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,360
marijuana, he was addicted to 
kratom. 

1504
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,400
He said nicotine was the 
hardest. 

1505
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,520
But here's the crazy part. 
Both of them said the same 

1506
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,320
thing. 
When they got off of it, they 

1507
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,880
realized how much it was doing 
the negative, how much it was 

1508
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,160
causing more brain fog and how 
much it was causing like just 

1509
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:51,920
symptoms. 
They didn't realize it was the 

1510
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,840
nicotine. 
And when they stopped it, I'm 

1511
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,920
doing I'm doing a video with 
them on it, right? 

1512
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,320
Because both of them started 
with an amount that would be 

1513
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,520
healthy. 
OK. 

1514
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,760
And then they ended up they just
needed it all day because they 

1515
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,360
only felt normal for the moments
that small window when they're 

1516
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,880
on it and they realized that it 
was ruining their day. 

1517
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,840
But I want them to show like, Oh
my gosh, how healthy they are 

1518
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,560
now. 
Yeah, hot topic right now, 

1519
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,760
especially in the Wellness. 
It is because, yeah, they're 

1520
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,800
focused on the benefit of it. 
And again, I'm the first to say 

1521
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,800
there's a hormetic thing here 
that a little bit can be good. 

1522
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,080
But the problem is it's so 
addictive for most people that 

1523
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,840
it's, you go over the hormetic 
window, right? 

1524
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,080
Where it's easy for a lot of 
people to have one glass of 

1525
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,480
wine, you know, hit and miss, 
right? 

1526
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:42,920
And maybe, you know, once or 
twice a week I have one glass of

1527
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,840
wine, right? 
It's like because my hormetic 

1528
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,400
window for alcohol is not very 
good, honestly, you know, so my 

1529
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,880
dad, it's like my uncle who had 
wine every night, every night. 

1530
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,120
He had his, you know, little 
drink. 

1531
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:59,800
And you know, that was my dad. 
My dad smoked cigarettes for 55 

1532
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,880
years and of course ended up 
with lung cancer and he had quit

1533
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,680
for 20 actually, but it's still 
got him. 

1534
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,080
But he he still lived 84 years 
old. 

1535
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,680
You know, it's like amazing, but
they didn't have the toxic load 

1536
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:14,680
that. 
Exactly. 

1537
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,520
Exactly. 
I want to ask you about some 

1538
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,520
unusual or lesser known 
alternative healing therapies. 

1539
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,360
Ozone therapy is one that I've 
been learning a lot about 

1540
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,120
recently. 
What's your take on ozone? 

1541
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,400
Axor medically, ozone is an 
oxidant, right? 

1542
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,480
Oh my gosh, How could that be 
good? 

1543
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:35,080
Because it but it stimulates the
body in so many positive ways 

1544
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,360
that it up regulates immunity 
and there's benefits to it. 

1545
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,640
But you can be overdone. 
Yeah, it can be overdone. 

1546
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,000
What do you think about 
hyperbaric oxygen therapy? 

1547
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,120
I think it's great. 
I utilize one myself and but 

1548
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,960
again, it's they've learned now 
that again, more is not better 

1549
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:58,000
and pulsing it is better. 
So yeah, I mean, I think again, 

1550
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,000
it works on the same principle 
is that we're pushing oxygen 

1551
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,280
into where you need oxygen and 
that's a good thing. 

1552
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,000
But you know, again, it can be 
too much. 

1553
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,760
And this is one that I'm the 
most unsure of, but it has come 

1554
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,560
to my attention in different 
ways lately. 

1555
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,200
And you've done videos on this 
with Jonathan Otto. 

1556
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,680
I know what I'm talking about. 
Urine therapy. 

1557
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,040
OK. 
I want to hear your take on 

1558
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,160
urine therapy, on, on drinking 
it, on putting on your skin 

1559
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,480
because Jonathan would say it's 
the it's the fountain of youth. 

1560
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:30,160
It's the best thing you can do 
for your skin. 

1561
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,920
What are your thoughts? 
Yeah, I love Jonathan, but he's 

1562
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,680
a renegade. 
Yeah, it. 

1563
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,360
Takes a lot of courage to go off
like that on something that is 

1564
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,640
so appalling to most people. 
So I do applaud him for that, 

1565
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,720
but I'm also just like, 
personally very grossed out by 

1566
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,000
that idea. 
It is a gross idea, but listen 

1567
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,640
to this story like Jonathan on 
his story right. 

1568
01:17:54,040 --> 01:18:00,080
So I for years I don't even 
remember gosh many many years 

1569
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,760
ago someone said when someone 
that has a UTI use urine and a 

1570
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,040
morning just a Dixie cup full of
urine fixes the UTI. 

1571
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:11,480
So I remember drinking it 
morning. 

1572
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:16,800
Urine TI drinking your. 
And I remember in practice, you 

1573
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,160
know, trying it with this woman 
who had a very complicated UTI, 

1574
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,040
it worked. 
So then I did it again, worked 

1575
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,000
again, my wife, my daughter. 
I mean, it worked, worked, 

1576
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,760
worked. 
So I that's the answer, right? 

1577
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,480
You know, that what's in the 
urine is certain metabolites, 

1578
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,920
antibodies that are your body's 
trying to do it. 

1579
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,880
It's giving more of it. 
It acts literally almost like a 

1580
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,120
homeopathic. 
It works. 

1581
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,240
So Jonathan approaches me about 
urine therapy. 

1582
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,840
I'm like, oh, yeah, I know. 
I use it for Utis. 

1583
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,720
Oh, no, no, no. 
You know, for this, for that, 

1584
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,080
I'm like, oh, wow, yeah. 
Like really, you know. 

1585
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,920
Oh yeah, the whole morning void.
Right. 

1586
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:57,800
So having some success with 
urine therapy, if you will, and 

1587
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:02,280
understanding it to that 
principle, he challenged me to 

1588
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,240
doing it. 
So my wife, who had already done

1589
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,480
it for UTI successfully, she 
wasn't freaked out at all 

1590
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,360
because she got a benefit from 
it. 

1591
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,680
So when I'm reading her these 
things about how urine therapy 

1592
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,760
can work for this and why she's 
like, yeah, let's do it. 

1593
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,920
So Jonathan tells me to do it 
for at least I'm thinking I'll 

1594
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,880
do it for a few days a week, 
what a Max. 

1595
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,640
And he says no, no, do you got 
to really try do it for a month?

1596
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,960
I'm like, Oh my gosh. 
So my wife says it. 

1597
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,000
Has to be in the morning, right?
Yeah, morning year. 

1598
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,560
I don't know that it has to be, 
but that's the best they say. 

1599
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:38,040
OK, so anyway, so for one month,
I wish my wife were here because

1600
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,760
she would laugh because. 
So the first morning, you know 

1601
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,960
where I committed to doing this 
and totally is an experiment, 

1602
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:48,200
right, That I got up and I'm 
walking to the bathroom at 6:00 

1603
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,760
AM and my wife says don't forget
to drink your urine. 

1604
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,640
I'm like, Oh my God, like I do 
not want to start my day with 

1605
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,840
that. 
It was like I was so mad that I 

1606
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,040
had to do this and it was 
horrible. 

1607
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,240
People say what is. 
Everything else you do the rest 

1608
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,920
of the day seems like no big 
deal because you've already done

1609
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,600
something that's really like 
gross and hard. 

1610
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,080
Yeah, that's true. 
Yeah, Frank Sinatra used to say,

1611
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,160
I feel bad for people who don't 
drink because in the morning 

1612
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:14,600
that's the best they're going to
feel all day. 

1613
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,840
OK, so maybe you're in Drinking 
is the same anyway, so I said 

1614
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,400
OK, so I did it right and it 
tasted like urine. 

1615
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:25,880
You know what's it taste like? 
It tastes. 

1616
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:27,440
Like it smells, Yeah. 
Exactly. 

1617
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:28,320
Yeah. 
So that's the thing. 

1618
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,160
If you hold your nose, you don't
taste it at all. 

1619
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:32,840
But here's the problem. 
You could hold this nose for 20 

1620
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,040
minutes. 
The moment you let it go, you 

1621
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,120
taste it. 
Still taste it. 

1622
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,120
So. 
So I learned to hold my nose 

1623
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:37,960
like orange juice. 
Or. 

1624
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:38,760
Something. 
Yeah. 

1625
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,600
And then you eat something and 
then it at minimum if you still 

1626
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,360
has this, like, lingering. 
But here's the truth. 

1627
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:49,280
OK, 2 truths. 2 truths Truth 
number one is I got used to it 

1628
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,400
and I didn't even have to hold 
my nose anymore. 

1629
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:54,400
OK so that's truth number one. 
Truth number 2 is I didn't 

1630
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,640
notice anything. 
I didn't notice anything, so 

1631
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,240
did. 
You have anything that felt like

1632
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:00,040
you. 
That's the truth. 

1633
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:05,040
I'm N1 meaning like I didn't 
really, I wanted to feel better.

1634
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,920
I wanted to, you know, I wanted 
something to happen, but it 

1635
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:10,880
didn't. 
So that that doesn't minimize 

1636
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,600
the effect because people will 
be like, you know, I noticed 

1637
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,640
this, I noticed that. 
Did your wife notice anything? 

1638
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,480
No, because again, she doesn't 
really. 

1639
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:22,080
My wife knows nothing anyway. 
OK, so let's let's be clear. 

1640
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,840
People like. 
That exactly. 

1641
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,200
She's what I call a Turkey. 
You know, they just like you, 

1642
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,960
you know, she could take a 
handful of anything and notice 

1643
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,840
nothing. 
So. 

1644
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:36,320
But yeah, but we did it and you 
know, it's, I can't say I'm any 

1645
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,840
more convinced. 
Did you put it on your skin? 

1646
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:43,000
No I but I've had people do that
with skin problems and it and it

1647
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,840
helps. 
I mean, Jonathan looks great, 

1648
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,400
his skin. 
Yeah, I mean, and Jonathan's 

1649
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,400
drinking aged urine. 
OK, Jonathan, there is no chance

1650
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,040
you're getting me to drink aged 
urine. 

1651
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,280
What is he? 
He just lets it sit and like 

1652
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,360
ferment. 
Yeah, they say the stem cells 

1653
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,360
actually increase in the urine. 
Oh my gosh, you put it in the 

1654
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,040
fridge or like on the counter? 
No, no, I'm not doing it. 

1655
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,080
Yeah, I'm not drinking age 
during. 

1656
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,880
I mean, that's another level. 
Of gross. 

1657
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,720
Yeah. 
I was just thinking of like 

1658
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:15,200
occasions when like the other 
day, my my son, my youngest, 

1659
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,080
he's three, he had like he had 
missed the toilet. 

1660
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,200
And so I cleaned it up with a 
towel and I like threw the towel

1661
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,520
in the garage. 
Like I was going to do the wash 

1662
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,520
later but I I forgot until the 
next day and I walked out and it

1663
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,680
was horrible. 
Like the whole garage smelled 

1664
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,880
like urine. 
So I'm just thinking like aged 

1665
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,240
urine, that's the worst 
possible. 

1666
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:32,360
Yeah, You have to have Jonathan 
on. 

1667
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,800
Ask him like that question. 
Like what's aged urine tastes 

1668
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,720
like compared to not? 
And like, what does that smell 

1669
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,320
like? 
I don't even want to know. 

1670
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,440
I mean, you know, urine is 
sterile, right? 

1671
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,640
But I would argue aged urine, is
it still sterile? 

1672
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,840
I mean, I don't know. 
I, I don't know, but I don't 

1673
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,840
want to know, you know? 
So I mean, I'm, I'm an 

1674
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,560
experimenter and, you know, but 
that that is a step too much. 

1675
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,280
And I love Jonathan, but you 
know, he, he is something else, 

1676
01:22:59,280 --> 01:22:59,640
you know. 
Thanks. 

1677
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,040
To you guys for trying it. 
Yeah, you know, robbing it on 

1678
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,320
the skin for anti aging. 
I you know, there's something in

1679
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,920
it called Urolithin A. 
Everyone's spending a lot of 

1680
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,200
money on Urolithin A. 
It's might help. 

1681
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:10,920
Yeah. 
What? 

1682
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,720
Do you think of that supplement?
Yeah, I again, I, I don't notice

1683
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,200
anything when I take it. 
I committed to taking it for a 

1684
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,760
period of time, but I, the 
science is real around it. 

1685
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,360
So. 
But I guess it's cheaper to 

1686
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,800
drink your shirt to get your 
urine today. 

1687
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,600
So. 
But anyways, that's one of the 

1688
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,520
reasons why it could benefit 
your skin. 

1689
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,200
And I've had people that have 
eczemas and things use it and it

1690
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,240
benefits the urea. 
The urea for the skin, it's good

1691
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,400
for the skin, so. 
Interesting. 

1692
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,800
OK, One thing I forgot to ask 
you about earlier that I 

1693
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,640
definitely want to touch on 
because we have a lot of 

1694
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,960
pregnant and nursing moms in our
audience. 

1695
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,840
What are some safe ways that 
pregnant or nursing moms can 

1696
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,360
start to do some sort of detox? 
And I know it has to be more 

1697
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,320
gentle, but yeah, is there 
anything that. 

1698
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,560
Yeah. 
I mean, you know, they'll come 

1699
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,280
after me so fast if I'd say any 
detox for a pregnant woman, 

1700
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:04,440
right? 
I mean, you know that's the 

1701
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:06,320
truth, right? 
I mean, my gosh, if you 

1702
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,800
mentioned supplements, 
oftentimes that's why every 

1703
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,400
supplement bottle says not 
recommended for pregnant women 

1704
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,440
because that's the liability. 
Exactly. 

1705
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:15,360
It's liability. 
So I'm going to hedge this one 

1706
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:21,080
liability. 
You know, there are times that I

1707
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,880
have had women that we were 
detoxing, right? 

1708
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,680
And they they got pregnant. 
I told him to stop 

1709
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,720
appropriately. 
And yet they were in things 

1710
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,680
saying, Oh my God, like my 
migraine headaches, am I right? 

1711
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,560
He said, and I'm like, like, I 
can't tell you the detox, but, 

1712
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,960
you know, they're like, but I'm 
I'm going to. 

1713
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,560
And they did. 
And it was like, Oh my. 

1714
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,120
It was like, yeah. 
So could it actually lessen what

1715
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,640
ended up in the child? 
Because what needed cleared from

1716
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,720
the mother? 
You know, the answer to that is 

1717
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,760
there's a time probably that 
it's, you know, more 

1718
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,320
appropriate. 
But those are exceptional 

1719
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,080
situations, I think. 
I don't think it's a time to 

1720
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,720
challenge toxins out of your 
tissues when you're pregnant. 

1721
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,640
Just let them let them steep in 
there for. 

1722
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,800
A little I mean your body, I 
would sooner rely on innate 

1723
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,040
intelligence to protect the baby
and you and those were very 

1724
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,920
exceptional times of very, very 
toxic people that I couldn't 

1725
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,840
believe they got pregnant type 
of situations. 

1726
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:18,480
But I do believe that it you 
know, it's a time to pull back 

1727
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,680
and rely on any intelligence. 
So I think it's more important 

1728
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:28,120
for them to avoid what's coming 
in to the bucket, and that's 

1729
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,880
when you really need to get as 
strict as you can to minimize 

1730
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,120
what you're, you know, putting 
in your body. 

1731
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,880
Yeah, and probably just getting 
back to the basics like spending

1732
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,000
time outside. 
Ground sun, I mean, all of that,

1733
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:44,240
that's helping innate 
intelligence, you know, and I 

1734
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:48,080
think that is what you focus. 
On Yeah, I want to ask you a few

1735
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,400
rapid fire questions to close us
out. 

1736
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,320
What is 1 health practice that 
you will never give up? 

1737
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,640
Detox. 
I still practice what I got me 

1738
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,160
well and what I preach. 
I still do it. 

1739
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,080
I don't do it as often because I
don't need to. 

1740
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,120
When I was sick, I did cycles of
detox for two years 

1741
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,960
consistently, less consistently 
for another two years. 

1742
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:17,520
And now, you know, I probably do
one of my cycles, you know, 

1743
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,840
every other month maybe, you 
know, But I do it because I will

1744
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,000
never give it up. 
Why? 

1745
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,760
Because I know what's really 
making people sick is the load 

1746
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,560
of toxicity. 
Even as good as we do, you and 

1747
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,320
I, we are still getting 
exposures. 

1748
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,760
Yeah. 
And that's why detox today is 

1749
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,440
more important than anything. 
So you're still doing your pompa

1750
01:26:36,440 --> 01:26:39,760
program about every other I? 
Still do brain phase is what I 

1751
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:41,640
call it. 
There's a prep phase, body 

1752
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,560
phase, brain phase. 
I still do brain phases. 

1753
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,480
My wife too. 
My wife and I always do it 

1754
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:47,760
together. 
I keep pointing to her, but she.

1755
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,280
Left with dogs, she was there 
enough. 

1756
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,080
Vaporized. 
But yeah, so we still do. 

1757
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,320
We do it together. 
Very cool and how can people 

1758
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,440
learn more about pompa program? 
If they if they just go to 

1759
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:00,640
pompaprogram.com, I think 
there's a teaching there. 

1760
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,800
There's no charge for it, but 
it's like it's the same teaching

1761
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,480
that I do for the doctors. 
They can watch it. 

1762
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,800
Very cool. 
What is the most overrated 

1763
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,080
Wellness trend that you're 
seeing online right now? 

1764
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:14,840
The most overrated Wellness 
trend? 

1765
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,720
Yeah, there's there's a few 
right now. 

1766
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:25,560
I mean, again, I think that 
overrated like the cold baths, 

1767
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,760
right? 
It's like I do them, I don't do 

1768
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:33,200
them as frequently as most, but 
I think it's overrated because 

1769
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,080
of how people are violating 
hormesis. 

1770
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,240
So I think more people are being
unhelped than helped, even 

1771
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:40,680
though I think it can be 
helpful. 

1772
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,400
It's it's overrated. 
Obviously. 

1773
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,560
I think bioidentical hormones is
way overrated, as I pointed out.

1774
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,560
And that's unfortunately in our 
space that's getting a lot of 

1775
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,960
yeah, like, and again, time and 
a place, but it's it's not 

1776
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,720
health. 
Yeah. 

1777
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,440
What is your favorite food 
indulgence? 

1778
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,520
For sure. 
Pizza or vanilla ice cream 

1779
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,120
Gelato. 
Nice for sure, 100%. 

1780
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:12,520
So I get artesian I I get a 
pizza made with the flour from 

1781
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:13,360
Italy. 
OK. 

1782
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:14,320
Yeah. 
OK. 

1783
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,560
So it's not like Domino's. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1784
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,080
I have to do quality because 
it's better anyway. 

1785
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,520
It's not like I'm compromising. 
It's better, you know, real 

1786
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,560
mozzarella, you know, Margarita 
pizza with real tomato sauce, 

1787
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,720
You know, like the good stuff, 
right? 

1788
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,640
It's like, man, that's. 
As you're describing this, are 

1789
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,680
you like sad that you just 
cancelled your trip to Italy 

1790
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:33,880
next month? 
I am. 

1791
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:35,960
I am. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1792
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,520
Gelato over there. 
Yeah, and my dessert of choice 

1793
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,120
is definitely, absolutely 
Gelato. 

1794
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,200
I mean, no doubt about it. 
Ice cream it, that's like the 

1795
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,320
one thing that I am less strict 
on with my kids. 

1796
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,760
Like we're pretty careful about 
their diets and what they eat. 

1797
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,600
But that's one thing that I'm 
like, no, I'm not not letting 

1798
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,640
them have like anything with 
food dyes or just like crap in 

1799
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,880
it. 
But if like we're out and find 

1800
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:04,120
like a great like, you know, 
decent ice cream place, like OK.

1801
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:08,000
Well, you know, that's The thing
is I may again, as I I said 

1802
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,000
about going to influence, you 
know, people in our space that 

1803
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,480
are very popular and going to 
dinner. 

1804
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,280
I made the comment about the 
water. 

1805
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,200
They they're drinking the tap 
water, but I watch them order 

1806
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,040
the food without going, wait, 
I'm allergic to seed oils. 

1807
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,000
That's what we say we're 
allergic to seed oils because 

1808
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,600
you get their attention and then
they're like, oh, that sauce. 

1809
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,880
That's a so I make no exception 
on seed oil. 

1810
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:31,840
Zero. 
You know why? 

1811
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,800
See, I'll make an exception on 
sugar, the Gelato, the ice 

1812
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:35,400
cream. 
Why? 

1813
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,760
Because I'm healthy. 
You know, I'll burn that up, 

1814
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:38,800
right? 
And it does. 

1815
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,480
It's it's ours, you know not 
years, not years. 

1816
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,920
So those seed oils accumulate in
your cells driving. 

1817
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,320
So I make no exception there, 
right? 

1818
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,720
So what? 
I eat an ice cream with seed 

1819
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:50,480
oil? 
No way. 

1820
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:51,720
But I'll eat an ice cream with 
sugar. 

1821
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,680
You. 
Can always, I'm totally with you

1822
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,440
on that and we most of the time 
will ask the questions about the

1823
01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:00,600
oils at the restaurants as well.
And I know that's another thing 

1824
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,000
a lot of people will say it's 
too stressful to avoid seed 

1825
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,000
oils. 
It's like once you get used to 

1826
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,240
doing it, it's really not a big 
deal. 

1827
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,440
And a lot of Times Now they come
up and right away they say, do 

1828
01:30:08,440 --> 01:30:10,160
you have any dietary 
restrictions? 

1829
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,520
And so it's like the more people
that are saying that, the more 

1830
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,000
change is going to happen from 
the restaurant. 

1831
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,840
You know what else is overrated?
This is a dietary one that's 

1832
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,160
overrated is gluten. 
And here's what I mean. 

1833
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,120
There's certain people, if they 
touch gluten, they're in big 

1834
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,440
trouble. 
They should avoid gluten. 

1835
01:30:26,440 --> 01:30:29,600
There's some people that are 
sensitive to gluten, not super 

1836
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,840
allergic, they should avoid 
gluten and it's very 

1837
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,480
inflammatory for them, right? 
But when, when I was sick, I was

1838
01:30:35,480 --> 01:30:38,160
that person, I couldn't eat it. 
And I remember I couldn't eat 

1839
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,680
most grains. 
I was reacting to certain 

1840
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,000
proteins because my gut was, you
know, wide open as far as a 

1841
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,360
leaky gut goes. 
But today I can eat gluten. 

1842
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:49,200
Now I choose to eat healthy 
organic gluten. 

1843
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:53,080
Like I'm not because regular 
weed is sprayed with glyphosate,

1844
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,440
which is worse than the gluten. 
But if you don't have leaky gut,

1845
01:30:56,720 --> 01:31:00,640
your body is fine with gluten. 
But I think people, and here's 

1846
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,760
why I say it's overrated. 
I think people reach for gluten.

1847
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:08,080
It's this this new health trend.
No gluten, it's cool. 

1848
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,880
It's and it's like, you know, 
that's gluten is even even the 

1849
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,320
biggest problem for you. 
It's the glyphosate that's on 

1850
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,000
that weed. 
That's the bigger problem for 

1851
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,480
you. 
Because also on the the what's 

1852
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,640
it The Dirty dozen? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1853
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,320
For those, the blueberries, the 
apples. 

1854
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,280
All of it and and that's what 
creates the leaky gut and makes 

1855
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,400
you respond to the gluten in the
1st place. 

1856
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,720
So would I agree that gluten bad
for most people because most 

1857
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,400
people have leaky gut? 
I would agree. 

1858
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,160
But people feel like they're 
doing goodbye. 

1859
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,360
Oh, this is non gluten. 
And I look at it, it's like, 

1860
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,960
yeah, it's gluten free, but you 
see what's in it. 

1861
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,400
Yeah, I know. 
I think avoiding gluten is like 

1862
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,120
a a good first step and it's 
where a lot of people start. 

1863
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,520
But now there's just so much 
gluten free junk. 

1864
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,640
Food so it's overrated as this 
big health step, right. 

1865
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,560
It's like, and again, 
acknowledging that gluten can be

1866
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,640
very bad, especially for certain
people, but if you have an 

1867
01:31:55,640 --> 01:32:01,840
ancient organic grain that has 
gluten, way better than a lot of

1868
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,000
things that people are reading. 
Which most people are probably 

1869
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,760
aren't sourcing. 
Exactly. 

1870
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,400
I mean, do I acknowledge also 
that the reason why people don't

1871
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:15,520
react to gluten with Italian 
wheat, if you will, is because 

1872
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:16,960
it's a different grain? 
For sure. 

1873
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,360
It's a more ancient grain, 
different gluten strain. 

1874
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,040
So that gluten is definitely 
better than our gluten. 

1875
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:25,200
And they don't use glyphosate, 
which opens up the gut when it 

1876
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,400
hits your gut and allows the 
gluten to go through. 

1877
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,680
So even if you don't have leaky 
gut chronically, when you eat 

1878
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,840
glyphosate, we it opens it up 
tight junctions and in goes 

1879
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,240
gluten and gluten drives the 
inflammation, you know, so but 

1880
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,160
if you're eating it without 
glyphosate and especially if 

1881
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,200
it's an ancient grain, then the 
gluten doesn't have to be 

1882
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,200
reactive. 
What is a day of eating look 

1883
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,880
like for you? 
You know, most days I don't eat 

1884
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:55,280
breakfast, but I purposely eat 
breakfast at least two days a 

1885
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,880
week. 
Just diet variation, right? 

1886
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,720
My body, it's not starving. 
I typically eat 2 meals, maybe 

1887
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,760
1-2 days a week I eat one meal. 
See, I vary it. 

1888
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,760
A lot of people are eating one 
or two meals a day every day. 

1889
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,760
The body will eventually think 
it's starving. 

1890
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,400
You need more feast days. 
So I feast at least two or three

1891
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:17,440
days a week and meaning I'll eat
breakfast, lunch and dinner. 

1892
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:26,040
And my first meal is typically a
very like my first meal, let's 

1893
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,120
say it's at 2:00 in the 
afternoon or you know, 1:00 or 

1894
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,480
noon. 
It's typically something very 

1895
01:33:31,480 --> 01:33:34,000
simple. 
I mean, honestly, and sometimes 

1896
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,440
it's a blender meal, right? 
Or it's like, because I'm on the

1897
01:33:36,440 --> 01:33:40,040
go, right? 
You know, And then dinner, if 

1898
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,520
I'm in ketosis, it's a ketotic 
meal. 

1899
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,000
It's super low carb. 
Sometimes I'm eating a higher 

1900
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,360
healthy carbs, you know, then 
it's going to be it'll, you 

1901
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,240
know, be more towards healthier 
carbs in a protein. 

1902
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,640
Yeah, pretty basic. 
So you keep it pretty varied. 

1903
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,560
I, I do, I keep it pretty 
varied, but simple foods, Yeah, 

1904
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,200
Yeah. 
I mean, it's like I, I am, I, my

1905
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:05,000
wife and I aren't big chefs, you
know, So I, I tend to prepare 

1906
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,320
things very simply. 
I'm the same. 

1907
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:08,480
I'm laughing because I'm the 
same. 

1908
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,360
An average meal for me is like 
ground beef, blueberries and 

1909
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,440
avocado and I don't know, maybe 
a glass of raw milk or 

1910
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:17,120
something. 
Yeah, I love raw milk. 

1911
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,240
I I think raw dairy, grass fed 
dairy is one of the healthiest 

1912
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,680
foods on the planet planet. 
Ironic because conventional 

1913
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,080
dairy is probably one of the 
most toxic. 

1914
01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:28,120
So therefore. 
Compare the two. 

1915
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,240
They're not. 
Kind of like gluten in that it's

1916
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,920
misunderstood, right? 
It's like this conventional 

1917
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,440
dairy has a protein far more 
toxic than gluten, but it's a 

1918
01:34:36,440 --> 01:34:38,920
bigger protein, so not as many 
people are sensitive to it. 

1919
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:43,080
But beta casein one man, it's 
like it'll send people reeling. 

1920
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:48,040
But if you reel dairy, real raw 
dairy from grass fed cows, you 

1921
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:53,480
know, typically beta casein a 
two different protein, amazing 

1922
01:34:53,480 --> 01:34:57,080
healthy food, fat soluble 
vitamins loaded with vitamin D, 

1923
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,440
vitamin K, the the vitamins that
people are really lacking. 

1924
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:04,880
Raw milk has it right. 
So good bacteria, this is poison

1925
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,360
mucus causing. 
But yeah, so love raw milk. 

1926
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:12,560
And by the way, I grass fed like
I that's another thing I do. 

1927
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:16,240
We grass fed meats all the time.
100% grass fed grass finished. 

1928
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,080
I don't ever eat conventional 
chicken ever. 

1929
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,200
It's when you know what we know 
you're not making that. 

1930
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,600
Conventional chicken grosses me 
out more than any other 

1931
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,720
conventionally raised animal. 
Yeah, I'm with you. 

1932
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,960
So at restaurants, you know, I I
like, I like lamb, I like clean 

1933
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,520
fish. 
And I'll let you now 

1934
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,080
restaurants, the restaurant I 
eat last night had a grass fed 

1935
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,520
grass finished steak. 
That's what I worked. 

1936
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,760
Yeah, it's becoming more and 
more common for sure. 

1937
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,360
What is 1 action item that you 
wish everyone listening would 

1938
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,680
take this week? 
We said, though, you know, 

1939
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,760
change what you're washing your 
clothes in, Yes, I mean. 

1940
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,080
Dryer sheets, yeah. 
Right now, No. 

1941
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:54,480
Right now, yeah, you don't need 
that. 

1942
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:56,400
If you heard this right now, 
yeah. 

1943
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,200
I mean, that's like, hey, watch 
what happens. 

1944
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,160
Your hormones. 
Yeah. 

1945
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:00,040
Yeah. 
There you go. 

1946
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,960
Thank you so much for being 
here. 

1947
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,040
Where can people find you and 
learn more from you? 

1948
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,320
I. 
Mean my Instagram is Dr. Pompa 

1949
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:11,240
right my websites drpompa.com so
that's easy and then Pompa 

1950
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,200
program you know if you're 
looking looking to get your 

1951
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:15,680
health back so. 
Amazing. 

1952
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,680
Thank you for all the 
information that you're putting 

1953
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:19,200
out into the world and sharing 
with people. 

1954
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,640
I know it's helping so many 
people, so thank you. 

1955
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:22,720
I love it, thanks for having me.