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When you are running out of stem
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of what you had in your 40s. 
Literally is dropping off a 

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Cliff. 
That's why people are getting 

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all these wrinkles. 
Today on Grounded Wellness, we 

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are joined by Doctor Joy Kong, a
UCLA trained triple board 

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certified stem cell specialist 
leading a revolution in 

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regenerative medicine. 
It's one of the safest therapies

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there is. 
She demystifies the stem cell 

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phenomenon and explains how stem
cells can help with everything 

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from autoimmune conditions to 
skin health. 

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They're anti-inflammatory. 
They can also kill off cancer 

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cells. 
They are antimicrobial. 

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This episode might change the 
way you see your own health and 

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aging process. 
Let's dig in. 

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Doctor Joy, thank you so much 
for coming out to the farm. 

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Yes, Bethany, so happy to be 
here. 

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It's amazing. 
I've never done barefoot 

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interviews before. 
I know it's usually a first for 

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most people. 
I'm so excited to talk to you 

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today because I know very little
about stem cells and this is 

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your area of expertise. 
So I want to start at a very 

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basic level. 
What is a stem cell and what is 

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all the stem cell hype about? 
Yeah, so people make stem cells 

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sound so mysterious and. 
And really all you have to think

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about is all the way back to 
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So when your mom's egg meets 
your dad's sperm and there is a 

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light spark and that the two 
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stem cell. 
So you were once a single stem 

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cell, and from that single cell,
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to multiply, how to migrate, how
to gain new functions and start 

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to form new structures, 
eventually forming you and each 

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one of us walking miracles. 
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really and any cell in the body,
there's adna which contains the 

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intelligence of the whole 
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Exactly. 
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stem cells is that it's wide 
open in its ability to form any 

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cells. 
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contain all the information, 
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The DNA. 
So you can revert it back to the

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embryonic state. 
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So they will be able to have all
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However, coming from that 
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the ability to form different 
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layer will have all these stem 
cells that start to gain new 

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functions and form new stem 
cells that that's gaining more 

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functions. 
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evolve, it can gain function. 
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function, you lose potential. 
So you can't have the, you know,

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both worlds. 
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specialized, you are, or you're 
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potential. 
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are during the path of forming a
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potentials are, but the further 
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potential and gain function 
until at the very end you form 

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all the organs, right? 
Your heart will have heart 

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muscle cells. 
That's actually working is no 

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longer a stem cell, it is a 
working cell. 

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But before it becomes a working 
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cells, the only function of the 
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become a heart muscle cell. 
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stage of a stem cell. 
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all the way along, we don't know
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It's a continuum and it could 
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find one to you give birth to 
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So anywhere along the line is a 
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So when people say stem cells is
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Is everything before the working
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OK. 
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stem cells is that it's, they're
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create healthy cells that are 
different types of cells that 

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have different functions within 
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if if your knee is injured and 
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knee, those can help to like 
heal that that type of tissue or

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depending on where you use. 
Them there are different types 

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of stem cells, so depending on 
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body, if you're putting the into
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meant to form more immune cells 
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cell type to put in your knees 
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Types of stem cells that you use
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However, there's a very special 
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mesenchymal stem cells. 
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body. 
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to different organs or different
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along your blood vessels somehow
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coordinating regeneration in 
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So they are like the vanguard 
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what's going on in your body and
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So is that the type that you 
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then they just kind of go where 
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That's very popular that is one 
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now doesn't mean that's end all 
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it's one of the gold standards. 
So I do use that in our clinic 

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because they have multiple 
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So OK, just by the fact that 
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blood vessels, they're trying to
sense what's going on your blood

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and also sensing what's going on
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they're living. 
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floating through your blood, 
let's say someone got a crush 

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injury, right, big accident and 
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that area was send all these big
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are along the blood vessels will
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they can squeeze themselves into
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the signal is allowed loudest. 
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squeeze themselves out and start
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repair. 
So that's the the mesenchymal 

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stem cells, but they their 
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So, you know, multi has 
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They're anti-inflammatory. 
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shift into a more 
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really help a great deal with 
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can protect damaged tissue to 
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They can also kill off cancer 
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They are antimicrobial, so they 
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Wow. 
And, and they can help you 

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generate new blood vessels. 
So there's a. 

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Sign me up. 
I know it's the one, you know, 

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you can put one cell in the body
and they does they do all this 

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for you. 
That's why it's really fun to 

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help people using stem cells 
because you don't need to do a 

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whole lot. 
As a doctor, I'm giving you one 

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thing that's like a pharmacy. 
So instead of giving you one 

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drug or two or three, I can give
you this one cell that's going 

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to give you 500 different 
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And it just works with your 
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mechanism. 
Exactly, and it's going to 

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tailor what it gives you based 
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So with these cells, they know 
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body needs. 
They do, yeah. 

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They trace signals. 
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there are two different types of
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autologous from your own body or
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donor. 
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between the two? 
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categorizations is that you can 
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use cells from yourself. 
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doing Zeno transplants which 
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other animals. 
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proponent of, but if you just 
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get cells from somebody else or 
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So the very first stem cell 
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transplantation from one person 
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That was bone marrow transplant.
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cell therapy. 
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another and usually requiring 
some kind of matching because as

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adults you and I would have 
differed so much in so my stem 

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cells would carry so much of my 
signal that it can trigger 

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problems, either attack you or 
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So there's mutual exclusion in a
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younger sources that doesn't 
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It's very fascinating. 
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another human much more easily. 
So that's the that's allogeneic.

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So using somebody else aloe 
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autologous is using your own. 
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your own stem cells and put in 
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really needs it. 
And that is, you get that from. 

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Fat, bone marrow would be a two 
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How do you get it from the bone 
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If you drill into the bone, Oh 
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So people lie on their side. 
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usually. 
Do you do that in your? 

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I don't, I don't think that's a 
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a best way of helping patients. 
You can certainly do that. 

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You may have good benefits when 
a person's younger because their

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stem cells are more still more 
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But if you're older, first of 
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has declined drastically and the
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is just, is there, there's no 
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You know, I, I've shown people 
the, the, the data, what happens

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when a person gets older? 
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you get older, your cells also 
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So your cells when it's younger 
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but when it gets older, somehow 
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It's like it's losing its 
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cancer. 
So it can cause cancer cells to.

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Proliferate then it simply 
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giving you umbilical cord MSE 
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mesenchymal stem cells will 
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basically tell them to go on 
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open and die. 
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older you are, the less 
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recognizing these cancer cells. 
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comparison between cancer stem 
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Ms. ES and of local core derived
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They put them next to cancer 
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So they put in a brain, brain 
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So glioblastoma, they put it 
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the live animal's body, planting
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So in both cases either Petri 
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that's next to the fat derived 
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growing, getting bigger and 
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to them local cord derive stem 
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start to go away. 
Why is this not being used in 

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the oncology world? 
Moment, you mentioned oncology 

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that we're touching upon a 
particularly sensitive subject 

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in medicine, we call it a big C 
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So when you mentioned the C 
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interests are touched upon. 
So there is inherent resistance.

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I don't know if you know, cancer
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People make a lot of money from 
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So there's not that much 
incentive to use something 

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that's natural that is actually 
going to have a profound effect 

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on either the prevention or the 
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So there's not very much. 
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Not much support and actually 
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So in in our integrated medicine
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who are doing more integrative 
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natural ways of treating cancer 
have mysterious mysteriously 

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passed away. 
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resistance. 
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research on using these stem 
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have been a lot of published 
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Research Institute is not having
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However, when it comes to the 
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matter. 
But even for research, I you 

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know, the the support probably 
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However, even with that, there's
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benefits. 
Is there less resistance in 

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other countries? 
Like is it just America who is 

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more so suppressing that idea 
and it's more widely available, 

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like stem cell therapies to help
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or is it kind of suppressed 
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I think there's a lot of fear in
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world about this new technology,
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bit more go, go forward actually
faster, to be honest. the US is 

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doing pretty well as far as 
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China, Japan, they're all doing 
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no, there's a lot of resistance 
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the big pharma are very, very 
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I just ask that because I know a
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Mexico or Costa Rica for stem 
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curious like what what they're 
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to do here? 
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over there and that's why people
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It is cheaper and the regulation
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carried out very much, you know,
there's just not much for 

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enforcement. 
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more comfortable, things are a 
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going to Mexico for cancer 
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rooted in their tradition that's
using more natural approach. 

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You are more of a fan of using 
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specifically umbilical stem 
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What is the screening process 
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cells? 
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for different companies. 
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the way we approach it, first of
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same standard as the the 
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Association of Tissue Banks. 
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transplants. 
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providing a tissue product. 
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anything. 
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nature, right? 
So we're not in a sense, we're 

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not making a drug. 
We're just getting a tissue 

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that's made in nature and then 
giving it to somebody else. 

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It's not that different from 
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transfusion. 
So that really is not controlled

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by the FDA, but there are 
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Association of Tissue Banks and 
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you obtain tissue and how you 
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infectious diseases. 
So the matching process that's a

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whole whole other issue. 
But as far as getting the tissue

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and putting another person's 
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So they have certain pathogens 
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that's HIV, hepatitis, herpes 
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a syphilis and Epstein Barr, 
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So there's a whole set of 
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They're testing the actual 
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Or how does that work? 
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then once they get the tissue, 
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itself. 
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see if there's any of these 
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Is there a way to tell if the 
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vaccine? 
That is difficult to tell by a 

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test, but the screening process.
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and asking the the mother so. 
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that there is no payment for 
donating this tissue. 

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It's a donation. 
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motivation to be deceptive from 
the the donor has no motivation 

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to lie in the screening process 
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compensated. 
For it exactly. 

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And that's in the US, So can't 
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because I've heard of Russian 
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fetuses. 
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other countries. 
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Ukraine. 
However, in this country, you 

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cannot give them even a token 
gift because that can be 

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conceived as buying the tissue. 
So it's strict donation. 

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And the mothers are screened for
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including their own health 
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their travel exposures, work 
history, toxic exposures, their 

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sexual history. 
They're Yeah. 

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So, so basically the, the 
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genetic, you know, a process has
been screened for. 

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And once the tissue is obtained,
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the infectious diseases 
screening and also some, some 

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genetic disease screening. 
And we only accept mothers. 

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So our company only accept 
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through the COVID vaccination 
because of the concern. 

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There's a whole range of 
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willing to put that potential 
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to any of the people who are 
seeking longevity or recovery 

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from a chronic illness. 
So I'd use this product on 

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myself every three months. 
So I certainly don't want any 

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potential damage. 
And I, you know, to me is my 

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obligation to make sure that I'm
not causing harm. 

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So COVID vaccinated donors are 
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US donors and only mothers who 
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So we're not taking any mothers 
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because when the baby goes 
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can imagine vocal cords, 
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with everything else that's in 
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So there's a lot of 
contamination. 

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But the C-section it, you know, 
basically it's a surgical field.

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Everything is sterile. 
And how can we be certain that 

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no babies are harmed in this 
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stem cells in the United States?
I know you mentioned in Russia 

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that. 
Those are abortion aborted 

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babies. 
I don't know any doctor or any 

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laboratory that's actually 
producing any product that's 

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based on abortion or aborted 
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We only take donations from live
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baby is alive, healthy crying 
mother's holding the baby and 

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they cut the cord with the 
placenta. 

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Usually they're going to toss in
the trash, right? 

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We just tell them, please don't 
toss in the trash. 

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Can we please use this to help 
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The mothers say yes. 
So that's no babies harmed 

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whatsoever. 
Actually, if the baby has any 

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problems, we won't even take the
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Yeah, you want to save it for 
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No, What's wrong with the baby? 
If the mother has a fever, we 

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don't take that tissue, OK, 
because we don't know what's 

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going on. 
There's two there's there's 

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risk. 
So the bubby, the mother has any

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acute, if there's an acute or 
emergency C-section, we don't 

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take that. 
Why is there an emergency? 

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Some problems, right? 
There's some issues. 

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We only like plant healthy calm.
Yeah. 

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So pretty meticulous screening 
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Can you give us an overview of 
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conditions that stem cells are 
used to treat? 

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Actually, I cannot use the word 
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occasions where the FDA actually
had given indications. 

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So when you say the word treat, 
that means that you're actually 

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obtained FDA approval. 
So if we're tailored telling our

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language toward the condition, 
then FDA has to approve. 

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There are only two conditions 
FDA has approved for stem cell 

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therapy. 
One is for hemo reconstitution 

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which means replacing your whole
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autoimmune disease or blood 
cancer, you can wipe out their 

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immune system and you form new 
immune system by getting bone 

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marrow donation or 
transplantation or a umbilical 

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cord blood transplantation. 
So that is FDA indicated. 

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The other one is acute graft 
versus host disease. 

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So that's when the graft can 
attacked a person's body. 

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So when an organ transplanted, 
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pediatric cases, then you can 
use stem cells to calm down that

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immune reaction. 
That said, research has shown an

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incredible array of benefits for
almost all of the organ systems.

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This is, you know, where I teach
my our doctors in the Academy. 

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I founded American Academy of 
Integrated Cell Therapy 

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specifically to teach them 
different evidence for different

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issues. 
So from head to toe you from 

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brain diseases, there's you 
know, we've had great success 

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helping patients with 
Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, 

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traumatic brain injury, Ms. 
right, multiple sclerosis and, 

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or stroke recovery and and 
nervous system issues like 

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peripheral neuropathy. 
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heart problems. 
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atherosclerosis, right, the 
clotting of new arteries 

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throughout the body. 
And it's great for lung 

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recovery. 
I've helped multiple COPD 

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patients to do, you know, doing 
do very well and lung injuries. 

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We've helped a probably the 
first reported case of recovery 

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of a 9/11 responder, probably 
the first 9/11 victim to to be 

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to become pretty much free of 
lung disease after a lot of his 

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colleagues have died. 
He's in the New York Special 

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Forces and a lot of his 
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their 40s have died after being 
the pit for months. 

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He was in the pit for eight 
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So he could barely go upstairs. 
He didn't know how long he had 

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to live. 
And we did stem cell therapy. 

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And now he's sprinting. 
He's got his life back. 

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He said he wants he wants to be 
the the the 1st 911 responder to

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live to 100. 
That's amazing. 

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Was that with IV infusion? 
OK. 

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So maybe a better question would
have been what can't stem cells?

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Because traditionally I've 
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something that maybe you get if 
you have like an injury. 

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And I didn't realize up until 
recently that some cells can 

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actually be used to treat 
autoimmune conditions and a 

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whole host of conditions that 
you mentioned. 

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You've also treated children 
with autism using stem cells 

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what kinds of or not treated but
you've helped the children with 

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autism we. 
Treat patients. 

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We don't treat the condition. 
OK. 

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OK. 
That makes sense. 

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What kind of changes have you 
seen there? 

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Going from nonverbal to start 
talking right? 

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Expressing themselves, 
communicating with parents from 

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not being continent to being 
able to control their bowel 

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movements and, and telling 
parents, you know, PPE or, you 

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know, start to, to, you know, 
making life a lot easier and 

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better eye contact, better 
rapport, right. 

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Social interactions and being 
able to, to advance academically

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better. 
So comprehending, doing 

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homework. 
And then a lot of it's also 

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social interaction, being able 
to work, you know, cooperate 

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with our peers. 
So becoming more of a social 

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member. 
Yeah. 

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So the, the, the connection, the
human connection. 

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And that's the part I think that
means a lot for our parents. 

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But any, any gain? 
But we've seen a lot of gains in

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yeah, just improving. 
And even their physical 

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condition. 
So sometimes they have 

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discomforts. 
And of course we do. 

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We help everything all at once. 
And the beauty about stem cells 

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is that it helps multiple issues
all at once. 

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Like there's one child, he had a
lot of gut issues, colitis, and 

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that was causing some of this 
agitation. 

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And also, you know, it's raging 
autoimmune issue basically. 

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So now we, we helped his, his 
gut repair through stem cells 

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and, and peptides and also 
certain nutritional supplements.

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So he's doing, his gut is doing 
better and then his ability to, 

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to, to socialize and to perform 
is, is better. 

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So it's it's all tied in 
together. 

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Amazing, yeah. 
It makes sense, but I was 

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telling you about different 
organs and people. 

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Yeah, musculoskeletal. 
When you, when you talked about 

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repair, that's like the bread 
and butter of stem cell therapy.

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And that's, that's like, of 
course we know that, we know 

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that one works, but for 
different organs, you know, 

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liver, we can talk more about, 
you know, other conditions, but 

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just about every organ that we 
we've worked on. 

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RFK Junior has posted that he 
utilizes stem cells for a 

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neurological condition called 
spasmodic dysphonia, which is 

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his voice condition. 
How have you seen stem cells 

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work in reversing neurological 
disorders like that? 

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That particular condition I, I 
don't know, you know, we have to

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know what, what's causing that. 
So I'm not sure of how, how well

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he has responded. 
So different conditions may 

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respond differently and some are
a little bit more entrenched. 

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So for his condition, I mean, 
it's not easy, the nerve, 

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there's some nerve damage for 
whatever reason, whatever that 

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caused it. 
The same thing with people with 

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nerve injuries, let's say in 
their ears and their hearing, 

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their eyes. 
But I've seen really, really 

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I've seen some evidence of 
hearing repair and evidence of 

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vision repair. 
So even I, we had a patient 

459
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,160
which was really remarkable. 
This patient had I optic nerve 

460
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,000
damage when he was nine years 
old during a brain surgery. 

461
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,880
They were trying to, I think 
take out a brain tumor and they 

462
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,480
damaged the optic nerve. 
So he was blind in one eye, but 

463
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,840
with one IV infusion. 
When we followed, followed up 

464
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,360
with him like about a month 
later, he's starting to see in 

465
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,920
that eye. 
So, so that that was I think 49.

466
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Yeah, that's 40, 40 year old 
injury and to be able to 

467
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,720
actually start seeing to me is 
something that's just 

468
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840
incredible. 
I would have never guessed as a 

469
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400
doctor, we do tend to be more 
conservative. 

470
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,120
I mean, we're hopeful and and, 
you know, we try to be 

471
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,360
optimistic, but there are 
certain things that you just 

472
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840
don't want to give false hope 
for, right? 

473
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,440
If somebody has been blind in 
the one eye for 40 years, you 

474
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,120
don't tell them. 
Yeah. 

475
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,800
I think with stem cells, you can
see that he started seeing. 

476
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,120
So there are things that that 
are just are thrilling for a 

477
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,440
doctor to see. 
Yeah, I'm sure. 

478
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Are stem cells being used yet to
support women's hormones or 

479
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,640
fertility? 
It hasn't been used that much, 

480
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,840
but I've seen that. 
I mean, I've seen that in 

481
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,440
myself, you know, at my age, we 
can talk about that age, you 

482
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,680
know, I'm still menstruating, 
right? 

483
00:29:53,680 --> 00:30:00,360
So and I've seen actually 
patients getting stem cell 

484
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,760
treatments and then improving in
the hallmarks of reproductive 

485
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920
health at the AMH. 
So that tells you about your 

486
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,680
ovarian reserve and actually 
improving. 

487
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,040
So significant increase after 
stem cell therapy. 

488
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,840
And I've definitely seen people 
getting pregnant, you know, 

489
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,080
after having difficulty 
conceiving for years, for this 

490
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,280
one instance, 4 years, and then 
within two months of stem cell 

491
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,800
therapy, pregnant and now with a
life healthy baby. 

492
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,720
My gosh. 
Yeah. 

493
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,360
So I've definitely seen that. 
So you're 54, You still have a 

494
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,240
normal menstrual cycle, which is
kind of unheard of in today's 

495
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,480
day and age. 
I feel like I keep hearing that 

496
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,920
menopause is starting kind of 
sooner and sooner. 

497
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,120
But are you, are you saying this
is potentially like a way to 

498
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480
delay that process for women? 
Yes, I do think so. 

499
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,240
So in animal studies, which is 
really fun, they were giving 

500
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,200
stem cells to perimenopausal 
rats. 

501
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,440
So I didn't even realize that 
rats were menopausing. 

502
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,440
And you know, I don't remember 
seeing any rats with blood, but 

503
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:16,120
they were, they found out that 
by giving these animals stem 

504
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,240
cells, the ovary size increased 
and the number of follicles 

505
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,680
increased. 
Their estrogen level went up 

506
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:29,240
there FSH and TH which usually 
go up with H1 down. 

507
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,040
So everything is harmonizing and
their number of pregnancy went 

508
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,080
up. 
Wow. 

509
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120
So that's pretty good at good 
evidence. 

510
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,760
Really good. 
And how often are you utilizing 

511
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,040
stem cell therapy? 
I think you said that the most, 

512
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,480
the thing you do most often is 
the IV infusions, is that right?

513
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,840
And like, how often are you 
doing those? 

514
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,360
I'm doing it every three months.
So that has been nine years. 

515
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,520
That's the only thing that I 
have been consistent with 

516
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,160
because people ask me what do 
you do for anti aging? 

517
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,760
And I really, I have not been 
very consistent with anything 

518
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,280
except for trying to eat 
healthy. 

519
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,640
That's something I do pay 
attention to. 

520
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,760
I don't want to put junk in my 
body, but other than that, I 

521
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,360
don't take many supplements. 
I don't have the patients and I 

522
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,640
sometimes I, you know, I'm 
annoyed with all these 

523
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,360
supplements, so I'm busy and but
stem cell therapy will be the 

524
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,680
single most consistent because 
it's easy, right? 

525
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Once every three months, my 
clinics please put some cells in

526
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
my arms and then we're done. 
Well, it's working. 

527
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,440
I mean, you're 54 and you look 
34. 

528
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,400
Thank you. 
What's the most surprising way 

529
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,560
that you have seen stem cells 
transform someone's health? 

530
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,000
I think, you know, as a doctor, 
we would like saving lives. 

531
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,840
So that that's probably the, the
most drastic is when you 

532
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,240
actually saved someone's life. 
So one case was very early in my

533
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,360
stem cell career. 
That was nine years ago. 

534
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,960
My early patient was a liver 
cirrhosis patient from hepatitis

535
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,800
C infection. 
So because he had prior drug 

536
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,680
use, he didn't even meet the 
standard, like he couldn't even 

537
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,200
get organ transplant. 
So he's, he's basically facing 

538
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,800
death. 
He was in Hospice care. 

539
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,920
So in Hospice he probably was 
given, I don't know, a few weeks

540
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,360
to live, maybe a month or two 
the most. 

541
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,920
So his brother brought him to my
clinic to get stem cell therapy 

542
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,280
as a last resort, and I gave him
a simple IV infusion at a time. 

543
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,120
My protocol was that he was 
supposed to come back in two 

544
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,120
weeks so I can give him the 
second one. 

545
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,520
So I gave him a low dose on the 
first one because I was waiting 

546
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480
to give him the adequate dose 
the second time and he didn't 

547
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,360
come in. 
So I had no idea what happened 

548
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,000
to this person. 
And then I was invited to get on

549
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,600
a radio interview and the radio 
show host was the one that 

550
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,560
recommended this brother to take
this liver cirrhosis patient to 

551
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,240
me. 
And then he said, oh, I have a 

552
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,400
surprise for you. 
I have the brother of this 

553
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,560
patient on the line. 
I was a really, oh, cool. 

554
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,680
He was like, how is your brother
doing? 

555
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:11,280
He said, well, actually when 
after the treatment on the way 

556
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,760
back on the drive back to 
Sacramento from LA, the swelling

557
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,120
his abdomen because he had a big
ascites, so huge swelling in the

558
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,159
abdomen. 
Very skinny guy barely had any 

559
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,679
strength to talk, but his his 
belly was swollen with this 

560
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,920
cumulative fluid. 
The the swelling went down 

561
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,199
halfway just on the drive. 
So you can imagine there's huge 

562
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,560
anti-inflammatory effect. 
Things are already starting was 

563
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,280
starting to happen. 
And then he said within a few 

564
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,320
weeks, he he went to see his 
brother. 

565
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,440
The brother was walking back and
forth in in his garden and was 

566
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,159
talking on the phone loud like a
normal person. 

567
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,320
So when he was seeing me talk 
like this, you barely had any 

568
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,719
strength. 
Yeah, I didn't have so. 

569
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,560
So the brother was like, wow, 
that's so he sound like a normal

570
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,560
person. 
And within a couple months he 

571
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,520
went to his liver doctor 
specialist to check on his liver

572
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,280
and his liver function became 
normal and so. 

573
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,160
From one IV infusion. 
Yes, wow. 

574
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:13,920
So my response, when I heard 
that, I said really, I was like,

575
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,680
I was in such shock, right? 
That was not something I 

576
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,240
anticipated. 
I was just an incredible, 

577
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,160
beautiful surprise to know what 
the cells could do, right? 

578
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,000
It may not be what the cells 
will always do for everybody, 

579
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,040
but this is the possibility. 
Did he come back for more or was

580
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,480
he good with that one? 
Unfortunately, what I heard was 

581
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,960
that he felt so good, so he went
back to IV drug use and then he 

582
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,120
got, he was arrested. 
So but so people don't always do

583
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,360
the right things after they get 
their health back. 

584
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,360
Just like when there's another 
COPD lady I treated, she did so 

585
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,160
well, she went back to smoking 
because she was swearing she 

586
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,320
would never smoke again because 
she was facing death, right? 

587
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,680
But once she was doing so well, 
breathing better, walking, you 

588
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,080
know she doesn't have to have to
drag an oxygen with her, then 

589
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,160
she went back to what she likes 
doing. 

590
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,000
Oh, that's so sad. 
Yeah, but as doctors, you know, 

591
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,560
we see people make choices. 
Yeah, So what does a stem cell 

592
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000
IV infusion cost? 
Every clinics different of 

593
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,280
course, the price range from 
around the world will be between

594
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,640
5000 to $50,000. 
So it's a huge range, but at our

595
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,320
clinic we try to keep it 
reasonable and accessible. 

596
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:38,120
So an IV infusion starts at 
$8500 at our clinic, but the 

597
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,440
more product required for each 
person. 

598
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,200
So the sicker you are, the older
you are, the more aggressive 

599
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,280
your condition is and the 
heavier you are, the more cells 

600
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,560
you would need. 
So the more cells and it can 

601
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,440
become more costly. 
So it can go all the way up to 

602
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000
about $18,000. 
And if a person wants to add 

603
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,000
exosomes, then there's, you 
know, an additional cost. 

604
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,040
If they want injections 
everywhere, sometimes they do, 

605
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,800
they may need joint injections, 
then that would be added cost. 

606
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,640
And if they want facial 
rejuvenation or hair 

607
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
restoration, then that's 
addition. 

608
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,720
And we also do sexual Wellness 
so you can inject into the penis

609
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,400
and vagina. 
So that's extra. 

610
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,840
And what does that do? 
Sexual satisfaction, right for 

611
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,080
men, girls and lengths of the 
penis and the quality of the 

612
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,480
erection. 
Grass up around your chair. 

613
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:33,680
And for female also sexual 
sensitivity, lubrication and 

614
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,000
just overall satisfaction 
sensation that. 

615
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,920
Can't be a pleasant treatment, 
so have that. 

616
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Bad. 
You would be surprised, really. 

617
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,360
Yeah, of course we numb the 
area, but it's people get 

618
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,720
scared. 
But everyone's like, oh, that's 

619
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:49,640
it. 
Wow. 

620
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,200
OK. 
There's so many things you just 

621
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,280
said that I want to touch on in 
a bit, but I want to talk about 

622
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,040
the risks a little bit. 
How do you respond to critics 

623
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,280
who say that stem cell therapy 
is unproven or unsafe? 

624
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,600
And what are the potential risks
of stem cell therapy? 

625
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,080
Because there's so many types of
stem cells, so we have to know 

626
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,840
what kind of stem cells we're 
talking about. 

627
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
But if we're talking about the 
mesenchymal stem cells, we're 

628
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,200
using people who say that is 
unproven. 

629
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,600
That just means the person has 
not looked at research. 

630
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,800
So if you actually looked at 
research from around the world, 

631
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,120
it's been proven over and over 
for different conditions from 

632
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:33,800
autoimmune to heart conditions, 
lung and liver and the kidneys, 

633
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,920
for even aging, for frailty, for
brain repair. 

634
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,160
So the evidence is abundant. 
So when when, when people say 

635
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840
not proven, you know, that's 
what research is for, right? 

636
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,160
It's to prove whether or not 
something works. 

637
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:55,920
And as far as side effects is I 
think it's one of the most, one 

638
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,560
of the safest therapies there 
is. 

639
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:05,000
I always say if we stem cell 
therapy, if it has even one of 

640
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,760
the major side effects of any 
medications that we use these 

641
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,400
days, it will be shut down. 
Even under that kind of 

642
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,840
scrutiny, it's really hard to 
find what how detrimental it can

643
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,600
be. 
Of course, if a doctor injected 

644
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,480
in the wrong place, like the 
Florida clinic that injected 

645
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,640
people's eyes and they don't 
know what they're doing and they

646
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,080
blinded people. 
So you can always do wrong 

647
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,720
things as doctors, right? 
You can put things in the wrong 

648
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:32,760
place and that can cause 
problems. 

649
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,800
But if you are conducting your 
treatment with proper skills and

650
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,960
you're well trained, then 
there's really very little side 

651
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,640
effects. 
There could be injection site 

652
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,840
redness and swelling. 
It can, there can be temporary 

653
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,880
pain. 
And the worst side effects I've 

654
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,840
seen was some, some are like 
during infusions and people have

655
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,560
vasovagal response, they get 
lightheaded, they get sweaty and

656
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,400
clammy or heart racing and then 
we just slow everything down a 

657
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,680
little bit. 
And they always recover. 

658
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,240
We always finish the treatment 
with no problem. 

659
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,520
One thing I've noticed is if 
somebody has a tendency for 

660
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,000
histamine reactions, they tend 
to. 

661
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,880
There's a possibility not tend 
to. 

662
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,960
It's still very, very rare for 
people to break out with a rash 

663
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,400
and it's always self limiting, 
right? 

664
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Always will go away. 
But you some people may have a 

665
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,040
rash. 
These are the people who tend to

666
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,640
react to everything, to 
environmental stimulation, to 

667
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,160
food or to medication. 
So they they tend to have 

668
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,000
eczema. 
So they may be the people that 

669
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,720
break out with a rash. 
But is, is easily, you know, 

670
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,160
taken care of And the only other
thing I've seen is people have a

671
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,080
feverish reaction. 
And and I see that in people. 

672
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,000
I believe that these people have
some kind of underlying 

673
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
infection. 
I've seen that in myself. 

674
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,720
The only time I have reaction 
where there's some kind of 

675
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,520
response of body ache and we 
kind of like temporary flu like 

676
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,440
symptoms is when I had just had 
a dental procedure where they 

677
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,480
took out what's called 
cavitation. 

678
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,080
So residual. 
Yeah, yeah. 

679
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,680
Aware of these, you know, from 
wisdom teeth being pulled and 

680
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,040
things not healing properly 
where with where there's a 

681
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,160
pocket of collection of toxins 
and and sometimes infection. 

682
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Yeah. 
So that's only time. 

683
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,680
I mean, I've done probably over 
40 IV stems out treatments and 

684
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,600
that was the only time that I 
had reaction where I was 

685
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,320
shivering and and it was, was 
drastic. 

686
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,240
It was a little concerning, but 
it was your body mounting this 

687
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:56,880
huge attack on what's going 
through your body. 

688
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,280
And I've seen that in, in a 
couple of other patients, but 

689
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,320
that will probably be the most, 
the most drastic response. 

690
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,760
But other than that, I've seen 
oh, the if we inject stem cells 

691
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,600
into a joint space, A confined 
space, sometimes there's a new 

692
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,480
reaction with accumulation of 
fluid immune cells and all of a 

693
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,720
sudden there's your knee gets 
more stiff and swollen. 

694
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,560
So there's a temporary, it's. 
Kind of like everything's going 

695
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,480
to the that area just like. 
You're trying to repair, you 

696
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,840
know, a place there's temporary 
swelling, so that could happen, 

697
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,800
yeah. 
Do you have any concerns with 

698
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,720
the fact that stem cells contain
DNA? 

699
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,120
I don't. 
I'll tell you why. 

700
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,280
For one, the cells rarely stay 
in your body. 

701
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
What we're counting on, Like I 
said, it's a pharmacy. 

702
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,680
It's a smart pharmacy. 
It goes into your body. 

703
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Deliver all these molecules to 
help you repair and the pharmacy

704
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,080
actually shuts down and go away 
because there's a lifespan for 

705
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,400
the pharmacy. 
So the smart pharmacy has 

706
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,400
expiration date basically. 
So majority, I would say 98%, no

707
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,000
one knows exactly how many cells
actually stay in the body. 

708
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,280
I think the more depleted you 
are, possibly the more it stays,

709
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,280
but we don't know for sure. 
But maybe no more than two, 3% 

710
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,320
actually stay in your body. 
The ones that say tend to adapt 

711
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,320
to you, just like we've seen 
human stem cells living in the 

712
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,760
animal's body and they just 
become part of the skin. 

713
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,600
You know, it's fine, it's just 
adapts to the animal. 

714
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,720
So there's ability of these 
cells to just live with the 

715
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:34,480
host. 
However, vast majority of them 

716
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,200
actually die. 
So you don't have to worry about

717
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,640
the DNA. 
The ones that actually stays 

718
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,520
because the cells are so young, 
they have more of ability to 

719
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,560
adapt to you. 
Or if they don't, then your 

720
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,880
body, your immune system will 
just take them out. 

721
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,640
It's like, oh, you're a foreign,
we don't want you here. 

722
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,640
So then then they're gone. 
However, the benefit they 

723
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,440
produce because we're not 
counting on these cells to 

724
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,320
become a particular cell of your
tissue. 

725
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,560
Because when I help that person 
liver cirrhosis patient to 

726
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,360
repair, I'm I doubt there are 
going to be very, very few cells

727
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,840
I gave him actually went into 
the liver and became liver 

728
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,760
cells. 
That's not how they work. 

729
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,680
The reason I know is because 
research after research, all 

730
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,520
these articles, they're trying 
to find out what happened when 

731
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,240
the person got better. 
Is it because the cells that 

732
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,800
were given to the patient 
actually made new cells for the 

733
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,800
person, it became new cells or 
because because something else 

734
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,400
they always the result had been 
consistent. 

735
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,720
The new tissue was not from the 
donor. 

736
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,480
The new tissue is from the 
person himself. 

737
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,880
The body created it. 
That's right. 

738
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,400
With the help of these stomachs.
Exactly. 

739
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,480
The cells are like a blast of 
signals. 

740
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,720
I tell people it's like a like a
television set when your body's 

741
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:52,640
diseased or old, it's getting 
blurry so your body can't figure

742
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,320
out what to do. 
It can't read the message 

743
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,320
anymore. 
But if I give you a blast of 

744
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160
these intelligent stem cells, 
all of a sudden everything 

745
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,720
becomes high def. 
Your body is like, that's a no 

746
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,840
brainer. 
This is where I should go and 

747
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,960
what I need to do. 
So all of a sudden the repair 

748
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,920
can happen. 
I want to talk about this 

749
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,280
concept of mobilizing stem cells
within your body, because there 

750
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,840
are supplements and therapies 
that claim to have the effect of

751
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,200
mobilizing your body's own stem 
cells. 

752
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,280
Things like hyperbaric oxygen 
therapy or the supplement stem 

753
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,960
region, or the Life Wave X39 
patches. 

754
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,360
I don't know if you've seen 
those, but these are just things

755
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,960
that I've seen that claim to. 
Yeah, just help your body like 

756
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,640
the circulation of stem cells 
within your own body, as I 

757
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,200
understand it. 
So I want to get your take on 

758
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,880
those therapies. 1 And I also am
curious, like how that even 

759
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,520
works. 
Are we born with a certain 

760
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,080
amount of stem cells and that's 
it? 

761
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,240
Is the body always creating more
stem cells? 

762
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:55,400
Like if we're mobilizing these 
stem cells, are we going to, you

763
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,440
know, mobilize them too much to 
where we're using them up too 

764
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,880
fast? 
Like how does that all work? 

765
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,880
We do have a finite number of 
stem cells. 

766
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,840
So when we were born, we had a 
lot of stem cells and what I 

767
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,400
mentioned mesenchymo stem cells,
the reserve regenerative cells, 

768
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,960
right, coordinating your body, 
your body's ability to repair. 

769
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,440
So when we were born, everyone 
in 10,000 cells is a mesenchymo 

770
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,840
stem cells sitting on the blood 
vessels ready to work, right. 

771
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,200
And when we've become our 
teenage years, the number is 1 

772
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,040
to 100,000. 
So we've already lost a lot of 

773
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,440
them because as they multiply, 
as they get damaged from just 

774
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,800
being alive with you, they could
die. 

775
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,200
And, and, and they only have so 
many generations that they can 

776
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,360
keep replicating. 
There's a Hey Flick principle 

777
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,480
where they can't multiply beyond
certain numbers. 

778
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,840
So either they exhaust 
themselves or they get them 

779
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,640
damaged, they they die. 
So even when you're a teenager 

780
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,360
and you think you're pretty 
robust and you're invisible, but

781
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,960
you have 110th, the number of 
stem cells you had compared to 

782
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,480
when you were born, right? 
110th. 

783
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,280
And then when you reach your 40s
is 1 in 400,000, which means you

784
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,800
have 1/4 of what you had when 
you were a teenager. 

785
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,920
And then when you're in your 
80s, you have 1/5 of what you 

786
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,080
had in your 40s. 
So literally it's dropping off a

787
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Cliff. 
So this is loft nature, There's 

788
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,400
an attrition rate and you are 
running out of stem cells. 

789
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,480
That's why people are getting 
all these wrinkles. 

790
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,280
That's why their organs that 
just can't keep up with the 

791
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,240
demand and eventually so we're 
going to shut down. 

792
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,600
Everyone has different, you 
know, places of the weakness. 

793
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,320
So different people have 
different failures of different 

794
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,640
organs. 
And then that's the end. 

795
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,640
You know, some people still some
organs, maybe they're doing 

796
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,120
really well, but some are so 
depleted. 

797
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,080
That's the first one that goes 
out and then the game over. 

798
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,360
So we do have a limited supply. 
And This is why stem cell 

799
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,800
therapy is so helpful, because 
it's giving you what you've 

800
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,680
lost. 
So these products, like do they 

801
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,960
even work or are they mobilizing
too many stem cells and using 

802
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,280
them up like using our bodies on
stem cells up at a faster rate 

803
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,000
than than we should be using 
them? 

804
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Well, the more you replicate, 
the more you're going to use the

805
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,800
their lifespan up, right. 
So eventually you are going to 

806
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,200
run out. 
It's not like they're, they're 

807
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,200
limited. 
Like I said, there's the, the, 

808
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,040
the limit of how many 
generations you can have. 

809
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:25,680
So you make them replicate, 
replicate, and then you're going

810
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,840
to run out of generations. 
So, so yes, but when do you run 

811
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,280
out? 
You know, that's a question. 

812
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,440
You can help them, mobilize 
them, get them out of the bone 

813
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,160
marrow, which is what stem 
region does, or bring them to 

814
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,120
life so they can multiply and 
help your body. 

815
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:47,600
But yes, you have a finite 
supply and it's hard to say. 

816
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,040
You know, by taking certain 
supplements, you can nourish 

817
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,120
your stem cells, right? 
You can make them healthier and 

818
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,440
live longer, and that's as 
you're preserving your supply 

819
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:00,760
so. 
Is that what stem regen does? 

820
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,880
No Stem regen basically free 
your stem cells from the bone 

821
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,160
marrow because a lot of times 
they're trapped by certain 

822
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,720
adhesion molecules and they're 
they're kept in the bone marrow.

823
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,280
But just because they're in your
bone marrow doesn't mean that 

824
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,800
they're helping anything because
they're just sitting there. 

825
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,680
So your body may have a place 
the injury or you have full body

826
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,080
inflammation, but doesn't mean 
that they're out there helping 

827
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,400
you. 
So if you take them out or if 

828
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,720
you use them regen to kick them 
out, then they can circulate and

829
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:33,760
help you repair. 
The number of circulating stem 

830
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,480
cells correlates with how fast 
you can heal. 

831
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,400
So by sitting in the bone marrow
is not helping. 

832
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,440
So you can drill into the bone, 
free them out and put in the 

833
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,080
blood. 
Now they're helping you. 

834
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,680
So yeah. 
So stem region doesn't really 

835
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,800
make you have more stem cells, 
it just make you have more 

836
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,240
circulating stem cells. 
Of course, you know any cells, 

837
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,280
any cell will have a finite 
lifespan. 

838
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,360
Sometimes when they fight your 
battles, let's say they're 

839
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,160
mobilized and they get to 
circulate and they find the area

840
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,640
of inflammation, when they're 
trying to fight your 

841
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,920
inflammation, they can also be 
killed. 

842
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,640
It's like the soldier going to 
battle. 

843
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,400
They can be killed by the 
battle. 

844
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,480
Yeah. 
But otherwise they would, a lot 

845
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,080
of them would just be sitting 
there not doing anything, like 

846
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,200
if we didn't do these things to 
help mobilize them. 

847
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:26,880
You can mobilize them by 
exercise can help the hyperbaric

848
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:33,440
oxygen can help and and and then
trauma can mobilize them. 

849
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,280
Oh, really big trauma sometimes 
get them, wake them up and then 

850
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,960
they they go into, you know, go 
into your system. 

851
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,320
Do we want to be careful and not
mobilize them too much because 

852
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,320
then we're like using them up 
too quickly? 

853
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,560
Or is do you feel like it's 
worth it to to keep them 

854
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,560
mobilized, keep them active? 
That's an interesting question, 

855
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,120
yeah. 
That's my hesitation with like 

856
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,080
stem regen. 
I'm like, I don't want to 

857
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,520
mobilize too many of these 
things. 

858
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Like I want them to be there 
later when I need them more. 

859
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,640
It's OK. 
We have all these stem cells 

860
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,240
that can't be given. 
Yeah, that's true. 

861
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,320
Worry so much. 
Yeah. 

862
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,640
So if you're if you're doing the
therapies, they can really work 

863
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,800
well in conjunction with these 
other things that we're talking 

864
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,480
about. 
So I do use stem regen in our 

865
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,440
treatments because a lot of the 
cells I'm giving patients may 

866
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,760
end up getting back into the 
bone marrow. 

867
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,880
So we want them to come out and 
really help help the body 

868
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,840
repair. 
But if I'm just counting on a 

869
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,920
person's own bone marrow stem 
cells, they're not going to be 

870
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,120
as active and as potent as these
very young stem cells. 

871
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,280
So I would prefer and also they 
are an extra help, right? 

872
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,360
So instead of using the more 
tired older and stem cells from 

873
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,000
a person's own and also they're 
they're, they're less, the older

874
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,000
you are, the less they are. 
So then I can give them 

875
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,000
something that's abundant and 
more potent. 

876
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,440
What role does inflammation play
in the body's ability to utilize

877
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,960
stem cells? 
Inflammation can trigger your 

878
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,360
stem cells to come to to become 
more alive basically. 

879
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,520
So some doctors asked me, oh, 
should I call the inflammation 

880
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,880
first? 
The person is really inflamed. 

881
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,800
So let me reduce the 
inflammation and then give the 

882
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,560
person stem cells. 
But research have shown that 

883
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,680
inflammation actually are going 
to make the stem cells work 

884
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,160
harder. 
So instead of just laying, you 

885
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,880
know, I do a little bit here and
there. 

886
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,840
All of a sudden they're much 
more active. 

887
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,920
They they're giving you a lot 
more of what they have to offer.

888
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,160
So it's like they are excited by
the mission. 

889
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,840
Yeah. 
So inflammation is not 

890
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,960
necessarily detrimental to stem 
cells and they could be, I mean,

891
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,560
they could harm the stem cells, 
but if they make the stem cell, 

892
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,160
stem cells work so much harder 
and better, that may be there's 

893
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,960
basically there's no reason to 
not have inflammation. 

894
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,000
Inflammation can get the stem 
cells more into gear. 

895
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,680
What are the most effective ways
to harness the power of stem 

896
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,240
cells when it comes to slowing 
or reversing aging in the skin? 

897
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:15,760
Well, I think the current 
therapies that are effective at 

898
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:21,680
rejuvenating the skin all resort
to some kind of energy therapy 

899
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,160
or some kind of mild damage and 
agitation. 

900
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,800
So you can mildly damage your 
skin by light, right? 

901
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,440
You can use laser, you know, 
other kinds of light. 

902
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,680
It doesn't have to be damaged, 
but red light can can activate 

903
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,120
your stem, your cells and stem 
cells as well. 

904
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,840
And you can use sound therapy 
for for skin, you can use 

905
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,440
mechanical trauma, 
microneedling. 

906
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,920
So all those were actually call 
on the cells to come to the area

907
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,000
and come to life and they will 
send out more signals. 

908
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,720
So your skin cells will start to
produce more collagen and will 

909
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:06,640
breakdown. 
So they will help you breakdown 

910
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,600
scar tissue, lay more, you know,
some more collagen, more blessed

911
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,080
apply and more blessed apply of 
course means more nutrient 

912
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:23,160
delivery. 
So you want to give the skin 

913
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,880
more signals so it will attract 
more stem cells. 

914
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Kind of like giving it a mission
like you were talking about 

915
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,440
earlier when you're causing 
those micro injuries and then 

916
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,640
doing that in combination with 
stem cells. 

917
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,720
The stem cells are like, OK, 
let's get to work and repair 

918
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:40,400
this and make it better than it 
was before. 

919
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Yeah, I love the combination. 
So you can use either, use 

920
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,920
exosomes, which is a secretion 
product of stem cells. 

921
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,800
Just as you use those alone, you
can put it on the face, they 

922
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,040
will absorb directly into the 
skin so you don't have to 

923
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,000
inject. 
And then you can use micro 

924
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:03,600
needling or other kind of energy
machines to agitate the skin and

925
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,920
allow allow regeneration to to 
happen. 

926
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,680
Or you can inject stem cells 
directly into the skin. 

927
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,520
And we've seen just incredible 
results with both. 

928
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,280
But the stem cells is is 
beautiful because like I said, 

929
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,080
it's a little pharmacy. 
So I'm injecting these cells 

930
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,920
that's going to live in your 
skin for months and they will 

931
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,920
keep secreting exosomes. 
So it's like a like a exosome 

932
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,960
factory for your skin. 
So which method do you think is 

933
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,600
more effective? 
Is it micro needling with the 

934
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,480
exosomes or injecting the stem 
cells directly? 

935
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,800
I personally will prefer the 
stem cells because it will give 

936
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,920
you long lasting, longer lasting
results because it's going to 

937
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,000
sit there and keep giving you 
more exosomes, but exosomes you 

938
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,360
know you don't have to inject, 
so there's a little more 

939
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,800
comfortable. 
Yeah, I was going to ask whether

940
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,160
the stem cell injection is 
painful into the face. 

941
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,680
It's a little bit, yeah, we do 
use numbing cream, but yeah, 

942
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,520
some people tolerate it really 
well. 

943
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,800
And I'm I somehow my skin is 
very sensitive and it really 

944
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,240
hurt. 
I've seen a lot of products that

945
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:11,240
have stem cells from plant 
sources. 

946
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,160
What's your take on that? 
OK, so I mean, people want to 

947
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:21,640
jump on the stem cell wagon and 
and they, they, they, they think

948
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,200
by using anything if there are 
stem cells in it. 

949
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,360
And that's, that's as if that 
qualifies as stem cell therapy. 

950
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,360
So when people use the word 
plant stem cells, I always ask 

951
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,600
them, I said, are you a plant? 
Because if you are a plant, this

952
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,960
products going to work very well
for you because that's the whole

953
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,920
point about stem cells is that 
it gives life to that life form.

954
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,520
So if you're not a plant, then 
that's not tailored. 

955
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,440
All the chemicals these cells 
secrete are not going to be 

956
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,800
tailored to you. 
So it makes doesn't make that 

957
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,800
much sense. 
So to me, that's more of a 

958
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,920
marketing gimmick. 
Whatever species you are, you 

959
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,400
need to use the stem cells for 
your species. 

960
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,800
So we have perfectly good human 
stem cells and that's what's 

961
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,440
going to speak to the body. 
Your body, your skin cells are 

962
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,600
going to respond to the signals 
of the human stem cells. 

963
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,600
And you have a product with 
umbilical stem cells, is that 

964
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,400
right? 
Yeah. 

965
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,080
It's called Shower Omni. 
So that was I formulated that 

966
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,280
about six years ago because I 
couldn't find a good all natural

967
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,120
product. 
I wanted to find something 

968
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:37,200
that's 100% natural and it was 
somehow a great challenge. 

969
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,200
And and then I realized I have 
stem cells on my hand and then 

970
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,120
I'm familiar with all these 
peptides. 

971
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,960
So why don't I put some of these
cutting edge stuff into a skin 

972
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,080
care product that's 100% 
natural. 

973
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,320
So I don't put anything that 
could be jeopardizing human 

974
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,560
health or with hormone 
disruption etcetera. 

975
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,320
So that's how I came up with 
with this product. 

976
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,640
So. 
And you said that the stem 

977
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,920
cells, they're not live, but 
they still have components that 

978
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,880
are super beneficial for the 
skin. 

979
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,480
Yeah. 
So contained with within the 

980
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,080
cell membrane are all these 
growth factors and all these 

981
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,480
signal molecules, including 
micro pieces of RNA and they can

982
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,360
help with cellular repair. 
So, and the exosomes also 

983
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,800
contain a lot of different 
lipids and, and micro RNA pieces

984
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,960
and they can actually go into 
the cell nucleus and help 

985
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,880
promote the repair of the DNA. 
So the benefit can be short 

986
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,320
term, but there's also a longer 
term benefit because if your 

987
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,840
cells are fixed on the DNA level
then it can give you a longer 

988
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,040
lasting benefit. 
Are stem cells effective in 

989
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,960
boosting hair growth or 
reversing Gray hairs? 

990
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:58,360
I've heard people talking about 
hair turning black, so in some 

991
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,600
individuals, not everybody, we 
can say that's going to turn 

992
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,480
everyone's hair back to the 
original color, but I've 

993
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,320
definitely heard people saying 
that they have less and less 

994
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,600
Gray. 
And is that with injections in 

995
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,760
the scalp? 
Even with IV treatment, so 

996
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,720
that's total rejuvenation, 
right. 

997
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,760
The graying of the hair is still
a sign of aging of your, the 

998
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:24,040
hair follicle, you know aging 
process your melanocyte 

999
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,800
etcetera. 
But the hair restoration to 

1000
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,280
increase the number or the the 
vitality of the hair follicles 

1001
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,400
making them more active. 
And we've seen great results 

1002
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,040
either with stem cells or 
exosomes. 

1003
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,680
So we can inject or just put the
exosomes on the surface and use 

1004
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,440
microneedling to or other 
technologies to agitate the 

1005
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,680
scalp. 
There are people who just did 

1006
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,120
injections. 
I think in my early career I did

1007
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,520
just injections. 
I didn't even add microneedling,

1008
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,200
just that was enhancing the 
growth of hair a lot. 

1009
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,880
So I, yeah, it's, it's, it's 
pretty awesome. 

1010
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,720
I think 2 sessions the the hair 
was filling up, you know when 

1011
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,320
there were kind of. 
A lot of thinning on the in the 

1012
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,600
temporary temporal area. 
Wow. 

1013
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,800
You've mentioned exosomes a few 
times. 

1014
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,080
Can you give our audience a 
little description and 

1015
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,200
differentiate exosomes from stem
cells? 

1016
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,200
Yeah. 
So exosomes are nothing but 

1017
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,240
little packets sent out by stem 
cells or any cells. 

1018
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,680
Cells can secrete exosomes. 
So exosomes are like those 

1019
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,120
little things that butt off 
cells. 

1020
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,440
So I, I, I call it, it's like 
the cell sweat, like the 

1021
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,320
sweating of the cell. 
So think of it like beating up 

1022
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,120
of this, you know, this little, 
little little piece from the 

1023
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,800
cell surface. 
That's a great analogy. 

1024
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,160
The cell. 
So with the stem cell, you're 

1025
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,720
getting the stem cells with the 
exosomes are just a part of the 

1026
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,600
the stem cell. 
Yeah, OK. 

1027
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,440
Whereas isolated exosomes are. 
It's kind of a different thing. 

1028
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,560
Yeah. 
So a lot of times companies will

1029
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:11,320
make the cells multiply and, and
culture them in a medium and 

1030
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,080
putting them, you know, sit 
around for some time and they 

1031
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,000
will keep producing and spewing 
out all these little, little 

1032
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,360
beats of packets of information.
And then they collect these 

1033
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,320
little packets and give it to 
people for therapy. 

1034
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,840
However, the cells also secrete 
a lot of things that are not 

1035
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,920
included in these packets. 
So they're because they're not a

1036
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:43,120
one poke 111 trick pony, they 
can secrete various things and 

1037
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,960
they can secrete things into a 
larger vesicles that's not 

1038
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,760
included in a lot of the a lot 
of these exosome product 

1039
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,840
exosomes are smaller packets. 
They only range between 50 to 

1040
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,080
200 microns. 
But cells can make packets that 

1041
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,280
are a lot bigger, but that's 
excluded from these exosome 

1042
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,560
product. 
So on one hand, you have these 

1043
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,280
free agents that are not quite 
in the product or you have these

1044
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,160
larger vesicles that are 
excluded. 

1045
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:16,280
And the cells, what they can do 
also is to deliver and donate 

1046
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,080
mitochondria. 
So if you have young healthy 

1047
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,720
stem cells, they can donate to 
your cells these young healthy 

1048
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,360
mitochondria. 
And that's of course not in the 

1049
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,480
exosome products. 
So the cells can do so much 

1050
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,040
more. 
Not to mention the cells is a 

1051
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,680
living entity. 
The exosomes is done. 

1052
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,640
It's, it doesn't, it can't, can 
produce, can respond. 

1053
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,800
It's a packet. 
And once it's delivered in the 

1054
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:46,680
body, it hits certain receptors,
then it's done, its job is over.

1055
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,880
But the cells can keep producing
these entities while in the 

1056
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,320
human body. 
The cells generally live for 

1057
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,480
about one to three months in the
human body. 

1058
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,640
And during this time, it's going
to keep producing these exosomes

1059
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,360
and producing them in a fashion 
that's more tailored toward what

1060
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,120
your body needs. 
So it's, it's a smart pharmacy, 

1061
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,880
right? 
It's not a blind pharmacy. 

1062
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,240
I give everybody the same drugs.
And that's what what's happening

1063
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,960
in exosome production is the 
cells is like, well, I don't 

1064
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,680
know what I'm doing. 
I don't know what I'm supposed 

1065
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,640
to do. 
But in this environment, I'm 

1066
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,640
just going to produce this. 
So it's not tailored to a 

1067
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,840
person. 
But if I give cells to a person,

1068
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,760
one person's condition is very 
different from another, so the 

1069
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,400
cells can respond. 
OK. 

1070
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,760
And you mentioned that you do 
micro needling with exosomes. 

1071
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,480
Why does it work well in that 
instance? 

1072
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,960
And are there any other 
occasions for which you will 

1073
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,280
only use exosomes and not stem 
cells? 

1074
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,040
In the face, it's, well, it's 
it's easy. 

1075
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,600
It's quick and easy because it's
absorbed by the skin. 

1076
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,480
Is it a smaller like particle 
like? 

1077
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,720
Easier. 
It's very, very tight. 

1078
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,640
Yeah, the cells are really 
large, so they can't really 

1079
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,920
penetrate the skin barrier. 
That's why they want to be 

1080
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,600
injected. 
Yeah, the exosomes, no problem. 

1081
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,000
We even put the exosomes into 
the nasal membrane because that 

1082
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,520
can be taken up by your nerves 
directly into the brain. 

1083
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:12,120
So we utilize their small size 
because they can cross the blood

1084
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:20,040
brain barrier, but cells cannot.
So for the most part, and I see 

1085
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:25,520
almost no instance that I will 
only use exosomes and not stem 

1086
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,800
cells. 
To be honest, exosomes is easy. 

1087
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:37,040
Some people think that because 
the FDA only is, is more 

1088
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:42,160
obsessed with regulating 
cellular products that if they 

1089
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,720
give a product that's not 
cellular, but but a vesicle and 

1090
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,200
the, you know, these tiny 
packets, that FDA is not going 

1091
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,960
to have a problem with the the 
FDA is slightly more relaxed, 

1092
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:58,640
but not that much because these 
are production, you know, these 

1093
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,720
are still products from the 
cells. 

1094
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:06,920
So so but excellent became all 
the rage because the companies 

1095
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,960
producing these products tell 
people all you don't have to 

1096
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,880
worry about regulation that this
is, you know, not as strictly 

1097
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,760
regulated. 
So that would that contributed 

1098
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:23,800
to to to the popularity. 
They're conceivably possibly 

1099
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:28,200
someone may react to cell 
surface markers, but not to 

1100
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,120
these little packets of 
information. 

1101
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,480
So that's possible. 
I have not personally seen it. 

1102
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,960
So I think it's more theoretical
is exosomes may be a little 

1103
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,320
easier to manage. 
The cells are living entities. 

1104
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,840
So how do you freeze them so you
can use them easily, 

1105
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,120
transporting them without 
damaging them, so that when you 

1106
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,560
unfreeze them that they're still
alive? 

1107
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,520
And that's more challenge. 
So it's more cumbersome. 

1108
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,320
So there are certain things that
are a little harder to use 

1109
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:04,240
cells, but I will always choose 
cells when when it's possible 

1110
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,480
because of the longer lasting 
benefits because it does more 

1111
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,240
than what exosomes can do. 
Outside of stem cell therapy, 

1112
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,320
what are some of your favorite 
bio hacks to support health and 

1113
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,680
longevity? 
I was the peptides will be my 

1114
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,640
top. 
Do you have any like favorite 

1115
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,560
peptides? 
Yes. 

1116
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:27,520
So we actually always give 
people BPC 157 and TB500 as part

1117
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,480
of the regimen because they can 
help so many organ systems 

1118
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,800
repair at the same time. 
So it's a little bit more 

1119
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,240
targeted in the sense it is 
giving you a little bit more 

1120
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,480
direction for the body. 
So BPC 157, TB 500 are both 

1121
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,200
really good for the brain, for 
the immune system and for 

1122
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,560
musculoskeletal repair. 
And the BPC is great for gut 

1123
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,920
repair and TB500 great for the 
heart. 

1124
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:57,640
So now I'm covering a lot of 
territory and on top of that, so

1125
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:02,920
I use that probably for a couple
months and I2 to three months, I

1126
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,920
take a break and then I do 
another two to three months. 

1127
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,560
So I like, you know, covering a 
lot of ground, right? 

1128
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,040
And again, one reason I love 
peptides is is simple, it's 

1129
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,760
quick. 
I don't like taking that many 

1130
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:20,080
pills. 
And these are it's just, it's 

1131
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,720
just, it's pretty elegant 
because these are natural 

1132
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,960
signals that your body gradually
lose as we age again. 

1133
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,800
And then there's the growth 
hormone set. 

1134
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,560
So Tessamorlin or April Morlin, 
CJC 1295. 

1135
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,760
Those can help enhance the 
growth hormone production your 

1136
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,760
body, which is a youth hormone. 
So now you can repair more 

1137
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,880
effectively. 
It helps your body to have 

1138
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,440
recomposition so you can gain 
more muscle and lose fat. 

1139
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,440
So it helps especially as we 
age, right, it's harder to keep 

1140
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,960
a particular physique. 
So that's another one that's 

1141
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:01,040
really awesome for repair and 
for for physical, just for 

1142
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,280
physicality. 
And then? 

1143
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,800
Do you work with patients in 
your clinic to optimize personal

1144
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,080
peptide protocols? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1145
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,560
Yeah. 
That's one thing we do. 

1146
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:18,479
We have a lot of peptides, so 
GHK coppers, great for skin, 

1147
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,960
hair and also for the brain for 
wound repair. 

1148
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:26,840
So that's a great one. 
And then appetite 1 is probably 

1149
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,600
one of my favorite because it's 
one of the few things that have 

1150
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,200
been shown to extend telomeres 
and it rejuvenates your 

1151
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,080
cardiovascular system. 
So that one make your 

1152
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:42,240
cardiovascular system younger 
and it protects you against all 

1153
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,800
age-related diseases. 
We have to thank the Russians 

1154
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,520
for discovering all these 
peptides and for having done so 

1155
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,720
much study on them. 
So a lot of studies came from 

1156
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,720
Russia and they've shown just 
pretty remarkable benefits. 

1157
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,240
What else do you do? 
What's a day in your life look 

1158
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,399
like in terms of your Wellness 
protocol? 

1159
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:03,640
I wish I have all day just by 
hacking, because that's, well, 

1160
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,359
that's what some people do, 
right? 

1161
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,359
It's true, yeah. 
Wake up, do some sungazing, 

1162
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:12,439
like, do some grounding and 
you'll dress up like. 

1163
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,600
He's like a full time sauna, 
yeah. 

1164
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:19,080
Yeah, exercise and you know, 
right, Sauna's fantastic. 

1165
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:25,800
And then, yeah, so there are 
different frequency devices. 

1166
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,160
I have a chair shift wave I 
haven't done for for a long 

1167
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,040
time. 
It's just it's hard to find time

1168
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:34,960
even for what I have. 
Sometimes it's hard to rotate 

1169
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,319
through. 
But some people do have all day,

1170
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,600
you know, that's all they do. 
And that's one way of living. 

1171
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,319
You know, not very many people, 
but there's a few of them out 

1172
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:45,600
there. 
But I do some yoga and then 

1173
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,359
yeah. 
But as far as Bah, hacking sauna

1174
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:53,680
I love, I think it's phenomenal.
Is one of the best detox ways to

1175
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,280
detox and it's very gentle. 
Yeah, saunas is fabulous. 

1176
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:05,720
Massages, you know, I love 
massages and light. 

1177
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,400
So I do have a light device that
I actually took with me on my 

1178
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,640
trip to Asia just in case. 
So I try to boost my muses. 

1179
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,680
I actually caught look cold. 
I'm not sure who gave it to me 

1180
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,240
in China, but I recovered pretty
quickly. 

1181
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,760
So I quickly shined the light on
a setting there. 

1182
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,200
Different settings for different
organs. 

1183
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,800
Which one? 
So it's called Oconia. 

1184
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,560
So it is prescription. 
Use this machine. 

1185
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,080
We use that in our clinic. 
So that's another cool thing. 

1186
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:39,000
Even though I give patients stem
cells, I can give them heptides 

1187
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:43,160
to target different organs, but 
I can also use laser to guide 

1188
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:47,240
cells into a particular area. 
So if I focus the light on the 

1189
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:51,280
brain that more cells will be 
attracted and stay in the brain 

1190
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,760
area. 
If I want to heal the the the 

1191
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,840
the particular joint, I can 
shine the light on the joint or 

1192
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,600
any internal organ that the 
patient is interested in in 

1193
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,640
putting more attention on. 
So during the infusion, you will

1194
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,120
sometimes use the light laser 
all the time, zero it in on a 

1195
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,640
certain area that the patient 
needs. 

1196
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,600
Yeah, you know. 
Yeah, we actually stick patient 

1197
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,920
in the in a frequency bed. 
So this is a light bed with 

1198
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,520
quantum frequency and we put the
patient in the bed. 

1199
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,960
So that helped mobilize, you 
know, help their to calm more 

1200
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,760
the inflammation, elevate their 
cellular energy and then we give

1201
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,640
them the infusion. 
But we actually do ozone therapy

1202
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,120
to boost their immune system, 
kill off some pathogens and 

1203
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,440
activate activate their own 
antioxidant system and super 

1204
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:41,400
oxygenate this their system. 
Oh my goodness, you guys do it 

1205
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,120
all. 
Yeah. 

1206
01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:45,480
I need to. 
I need to plan a visit protocol.

1207
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,000
Yeah, it sounds like it. 
That's amazing. 

1208
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,640
The stem cell world is such a 
fast growing space. 

1209
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,200
What's next? 
What's on the horizon in stem 

1210
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,640
cells? 
Well, there's some new kids on 

1211
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:02,240
the block at one point. 
I think a lot of people are 

1212
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:07,760
going for what's called V cells.
The research is just as not as 

1213
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,680
robust as mesenchymal stem 
cells. 

1214
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,520
That's why it's still the gold 
standard. 

1215
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,120
What is AV cell? 
V cells a very small embryonic 

1216
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,000
like stem cells. 
So we we also can do that in our

1217
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:24,560
clinic, but just the research is
there's not as much, but some 

1218
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,880
people are firm believers. 
So we do provide that, but it's 

1219
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,360
not a focus. 
There's another one that's 

1220
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:36,720
called Muse Cell that got made 
popular because of the 

1221
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,840
Kardashians again. 
So they went to get a Muse cell 

1222
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:45,360
infusion. 
So that's something that could 

1223
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,280
be really exciting. 
That's a subpopulation of 

1224
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:54,680
mesenchymal stem cells. 
So a particular lab can enhance 

1225
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,320
the proportion of these cells 
and give it to patients because 

1226
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:06,360
these cells are able to become 
any tissue in the body, so they 

1227
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,800
had more ability to to 
transform. 

1228
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,920
They can become the tissue 
versus repairing it. 

1229
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,840
So mesenchymo stem cells can 
become the tissue to some 

1230
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:22,120
extent, but it's possible it's 
because of this subpopulation 

1231
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:28,320
and the mechanism that it does 
the transformation is really fun

1232
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,360
because they actually gobble up 
your bat cells. 

1233
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,480
So if your cells are damaged, 
not good, they will eat it up 

1234
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,760
and while it eats, it will 
digest the DNA and then that 

1235
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,520
fragment of the DNA will trigger
the cell to become you. 

1236
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,960
So that's fun, right? 
You got someone to digest you 

1237
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,640
and then becomes you. 
So that that's really 

1238
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,680
interesting thing. 
But you mentioned DNA. 

1239
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,440
Now I remember your question 
about. 

1240
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:55,960
Yeah, I was the. 
DNA in the body, I want to tell 

1241
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,920
you really, because you're a 
mother as well, I want to 

1242
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,720
mention this. 
You kind of, you know, tidbit 

1243
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:07,560
that's really fascinating is 
that they found out that mothers

1244
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,800
who have been pregnant and and 
gave birth to a baby compared to

1245
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,120
the mothers of the same age but 
do not have that pregnancy, 

1246
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,800
their biological age is 5 months
younger. 

1247
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,840
Because they have DNA from their
child. 

1248
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,720
Because they've gone through the
pregnancy process and what I 

1249
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,720
believe is that we all know when
the mother is pregnant with the 

1250
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,280
baby, there's huge exchange 
going on. 

1251
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,440
The baby stem cells is 
circulating the mother because 

1252
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:40,320
we found out there, there are Y 
chromosomes in females body. 

1253
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,960
Mothers would have given birth 
to male children, right? 

1254
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,280
So the X is just harder to 
detect, right? 

1255
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,080
If you have just female 
daughters have daughters, but 

1256
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,880
you have sons, then definitely 
they found Y chromosomes in all 

1257
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,600
your tissue in your brain and 
your, and your breasts and other

1258
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,840
organs. 
So we know that there's human, 

1259
01:14:59,960 --> 01:15:03,560
there's DNA exchange and and 
they actually found a 

1260
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,200
correlation of mothers with more
Y chromosomes have less risk of 

1261
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,680
dementia. 
So it's really interesting. 

1262
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,720
I was just going to say like, is
that can that contribute to 

1263
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,840
feeling good during pregnancy? 
Like especially towards the end 

1264
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,920
because I always feel like 
Superwoman like towards the end 

1265
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,120
of the. 
Glow, right? 

1266
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,360
Yeah. 
The glow and also the remission 

1267
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:26,280
of autoimmune diseases is a 
known fact that people with 

1268
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,120
autoimmune diseases tend to go 
into remission during pregnancy.

1269
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:29,960
Wow. 
Yeah. 

1270
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,280
So what's really interesting, 
just to put people's mind at 

1271
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:42,000
ease about the DNA exchange in 
the human world, is that 60% of 

1272
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,640
women actually have Y 
chromosomes in their body, and 

1273
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,640
majority of them cannot be 
accounted for by having had male

1274
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,840
children. 
And they were looking at all 

1275
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:59,200
possibilities. 
Oh my God, is it because the 

1276
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,560
woman had a male sibling that 
didn't get born, right? 

1277
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:07,080
Got there was a miscarriage. 
So the male sibling, you know, 

1278
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:11,120
there was a demise, but then 
the, the DNA was circulating at 

1279
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,560
the same time as a female and 
the female got born. 

1280
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:20,400
So that's a possibility. 
Or the, the, the, the female had

1281
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:24,120
some kind of miscarriage of male
fetuses, right? 

1282
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,080
So in their life they had all 
these miscarriages and and 

1283
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,600
somehow the the male fetus got 
the DNA circulating the body. 

1284
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,000
But that's all. 
These things are minuscule. 

1285
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:37,960
So the only explanation they 
could come up with is through 

1286
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,160
male, female intercourse that 
there is deposit of Y 

1287
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,560
chromosomes in the female's body
and apparently it stayed 

1288
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,280
somewhere throughout the body. 
So 60% of the women actually 

1289
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,000
have Y chromosomes in the body. 
So if you think you're such a 

1290
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,160
pure entity that I'm an XX 
female right my chromosomes, 

1291
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,520
you're mistaken because 60% of 
chances that you have Y 

1292
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,000
chromosomes in your body. 
OK, that is wild. 

1293
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,840
So I want people to understand 
that it's not such a big deal as

1294
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,520
you think. 
Oh, my God, I got other people's

1295
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,360
DNA in my body. 
I welcome other people's DNA in 

1296
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,160
my body. 
It's like, well, OK, come join 

1297
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,280
the party. 
Is part of human existence. 

1298
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,440
Yeah. 
Wow, that's fascinating. 

1299
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,280
Dr. Joy, thank you so much. 
This conversation has been so 

1300
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,480
interesting and enlightening. 
Where can people find you and 

1301
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:28,160
how can people come visit your 
clinic? 

1302
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,800
The best place to find me is I 
have a personal website, 

1303
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,320
joykongmd.com. 
So there are all these things 

1304
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,040
that I'm doing, you know, 
including my Academy, the cream.

1305
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,120
And so everything I do is there.
Oh, I also wrote a book, It's 

1306
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,880
called Tiger of Beijing. 
It's my memoir. 

1307
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,600
So they can find that there as 
well as it is about how I came 

1308
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,920
to the US and how I survived. 
It's only about this three years

1309
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,440
of very dramatic time in my 
life. 

1310
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:54,040
Wow. 
And they can also learn more 

1311
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:59,240
about stem cell therapy or 
holistic, you know, way of life 

1312
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,560
by visiting my YouTube channel, 
Joy Kong MD. 

1313
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,880
So I talk about everything when 
it comes to stem cells and I 

1314
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:13,320
have lectures on there. 
And then I have my podcast, Joy,

1315
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,880
the Joy the Doctor Joy Kong 
podcast. 

1316
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,000
And you know, I interview 
wonderful experts in different 

1317
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,000
arenas and when it comes to 
health and also both mental and 

1318
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,320
physical health. 
So I don't know if you know I, 

1319
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,240
I, I am a trained psychiatrist, 
so. 

1320
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,800
Yes, I did see that. 
Right, so the mental health is 

1321
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,920
important and I but I want to 
bring holistic health into 

1322
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,320
mental health. 
And that's it has become a new 

1323
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,880
trend now. 
I think there's more. 

1324
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,320
Yeah. 
People pay more attention to to 

1325
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,160
the integration of the two. 
Yeah. 

1326
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:50,520
So and people also welcome to 
come to my Instagram. 

1327
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,640
It's just a doctor. 
Under score joy under score 

1328
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,320
Kong. 
So they can ask me questions. 

1329
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,720
And you know, I, I, I always try
to respond to people. 

1330
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,800
Love it. 
Thank you so much, Doctor Joy. 

1331
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,080
Oh, you're so welcome. 
It's been such a pleasure, 

1332
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:06,480
Bethany.