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We are on the island of Kawaii 
today for a very special episode

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of Grounded Wellness with 
Bethany Hamilton. 

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There are few people in the 
world whose presence feels like 

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a living embodiment of strength,
grace, and deep rooted faith, 

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and Bethany is one of them. 
Bethany is a professional 

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surfer, author, speaker, wife, 
and Mama 4. 

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In this conversation, Bethany 
opens up about what it means to 

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truly live well physically, 
mentally, and spiritually. 

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From her grounding daily 
practices to the perspectives 

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that carry her through life's 
waves, this episode is a 

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heartfelt dive into resilience, 
intuition, and holistic Wellness

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from one of the most inspiring 
voices of our time. 

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Whether you follow Bethany 
journey since Soul Surfer or 

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you're just discovering her 
depth beyond the headlines, this

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conversation will help you 
reconnect to your own strength. 

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Let's dig in. 
Bethany, thank you so much for 

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being here today. 
We've been in touch for a while 

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now. 
We met for the first time a 

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little over two years ago in 
Kauai, and you were pregnant 

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with your daughter, your 
youngest, Alea, and I had my 

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youngest, Otto, with me. 
I remember he was like in the 

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carrier and we got acai bowls. 
So I've been following along 

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with you for so long. 
And as I was getting ready for 

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this recording, I was 
researching you even more and I 

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found out that we have a lot of 
really interesting things in 

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common. 
Do you want to hear some of 

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them? 
Yes. 

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OK, so obviously on my toes. 
Now I know I can't wait. 

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The obvious one is we have the 
same name. 

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Yes. 
OK, we're both blonde. 

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That was on my list. 
But another obvious one. 

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We're both really into health. 
We have the same favorite Bible 

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verse. 
I think this is your favorite 

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verse. 
John 1635. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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That was like, on my Facebook 
profile, like my bio, like, all 

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throughout college. 
We're similar ages. 

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I'm 36. 
I think you're 35. 

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We both dated our husbands nine 
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Isn't that good? 
Yeah, and I think I heard you 

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say that your husband has a 
teaching degree. 

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He does think that is mine. 
That is wild. 

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OK, We have a lot of 
similarities here. 

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And you've described him as like
a ball guy before he moved here.

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What was his? 
Sport. 

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He did mostly football, but I 
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different sports as well. 
OK, My husband, he's a track and

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stuff and yeah. 
OK, so not quite the same 

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sports, but that's that's so 
funny. 

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I just loved that most of our 
audience is probably very 

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familiar with your story. 
Yes. 

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When you were thirteen years 
old, you were attacked by a 14 

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foot tiger shark. 
You lost your arm in the attack 

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and then 3 1/2 weeks later you 
got back into the ocean and 

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started surfing again. 
So I'm sure a part of you was 

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terrified to go back into the 
water. 

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But to what extent were you 
afraid, and how did you overcome

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that fear? 
Yes, so Oh my gosh, I would say 

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I am far from fearless, though a
lot of people describe me as 

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fearless. 
And when my whole life kind of 

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came to a halt in that season, 
my biggest fear was not of 

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sharks at that point, but of 
losing surfing. 

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So I didn't know anyone who 
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I didn't know, you know, I 
didn't even know anyone who had 

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limb difference, let alone like 
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And so for me, I felt very 
fearful of of losing my greatest

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passion in life at that time, 
like I was winning every surf 

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competition I entered up just 
about for my age group and I was

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like the one to beat. 
And you can tell that I was 

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heading on a trajectory for a 
professional surfing career and.

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And not just a professional 
surfing career, but becoming to.

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Be one of the best. 
And so, yeah, as soon as I got a

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hint of inspiration that I could
try to surf with one arm, I was 

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dead set on trying. 
And of course, there was fear of

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sharks. 
But I think my fear of losing 

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surfing was greater than my fear
of sharks. 

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And I think for anyone who knows
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close to the beach sometimes. 
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where I lost my arm was really 
far out to sea and kind of like,

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more of a eerie location, so to 
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And so when I first went 
surfing, I went where it was 

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very shallow, like you could 
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and a half deep. 
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you know, well, first of all, I 
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arm. 
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no turning back. 
And then over time, I slowly 

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overcame that fear of sharks 
once I started surfing, all the 

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normal breaks. 
And yeah, I think for me, it 

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truly was just facing my fears 
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me back. 
And, you know, I definitely have

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a more tenacious attitude or 
like I'm a go getter in life and

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that helped me. 
But I also feel like God gave me

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this passion for a reason and 
this gift and talent. 

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And so it was just God working 
in and through my life. 

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And lo and behold, I continued 
surfing and kind of continued on

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a very similar trajectory. 
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I'd say it became a more 
beautiful life than I could have

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painted. 
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And you touched on something 
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It's like a lot of us have 
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important to think like, what is
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Yeah. 
So it's not necessarily about 

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just doing it and overcoming it,
period. 

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And it's like thinking about 
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choose to not push myself a 
little bit? 

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Yeah. 
Very soon after all of this, you

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were then launched into the 
public eye. 

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You became instantly famous. 
You were travelling around the 

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world speaking and and talking 
to people and encouraging 

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people. 
What was that like for you? 

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Yes. 
So oddly enough, like, my 

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parents decided to, like, let me
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myself at 13. 
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knew what they were doing. 
You know, we lived a very simple

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life. 
And, you know, my parents worked

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like, multiple jobs and we lived
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cost of living is very high. 
And we were just like kind of 

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barely scraping by throughout 
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And so when they kind of sent me
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of course, but like. 
Was it you who were like I 

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really want to do this or were 
they like this would be really 

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cool you should try it. 
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So what's crazy is they 
interviewed me in the hospital 

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and I was like, well, maybe God 
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encourage others. 
And that was like 13 year old 

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Bethany. 
Nobody said that to me before. 

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I said that like it wasn't 
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ingrained in my mind. 
It was just something that came 

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out at me. 
And so I think I always had that

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heart. 
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raised me too. 
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with our low income, for one 
gift, we would go and buy like a

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well for a community who didn't 
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more food. 
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thinking outside of our family, 
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And so I think I grew up in a 
household of like not always 

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thinking about ourselves and 
thinking of others and the need 

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in the world. 
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this was before social media was
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Nowadays people can become known
overnight through a viral social

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media video. 
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different in the sense that 
often times they're also 

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forgotten very quickly, too. 
But my story went truly viral, 

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like household name all over the
world, like little Bethany gets 

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back, especially once I started 
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Yeah. 
And so I started surfing again 

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and then it went triple viral. 
And and then lo and behold, I 

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went on to write my book. 
And little 314 year old Bethany 

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was like, let's write this book 
so I never have to tell my story

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again. 
But I didn't understand the 

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whole concept of like, you got 
to go on a book tour and then 

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you tell your story over again 
and again and again so you can 

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promote your book. 
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And so over time, like, and then
I started motivational speaking.

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So I I've been making this joke 
like I do the two scariest 

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things in the world. 
I surf with sharks and do 

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motivational public and public. 
Literally, yeah. 

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Everyone's a lot of. 
People like really don't want 

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nothing to do with all of that, 
but. 

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But you had purpose that was 
greater than your fear. 

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Right. 
And so I think with speaking I 

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knew that I could help people, 
even though I started off really

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bad at it and over time I got 
better and better at it. 

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Like imagine a little 14151617 
year old Bethany didn't always 

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have much to say. 
So you really had to dig it out 

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of me. 
But there's also like really fun

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moments along the way where I 
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I think that's kind of hard to 
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And so people just loved that an
yeah, it's just been such an 

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amazing journey. 
And I'm so grateful for even all

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the hardship and seeing all the 
good that's come out of it and 

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still having such a beautiful 
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And now I'm a mom of four and 
it's just such a joy. 

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And now I'm surfing with my 
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And I'm not a super bribing 
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children to surf because I know 
it's like a hard 1 to overcome 

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the hurdle of like fear of waves
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What do you bribe them with? 
Well lately it's like gummy 

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bears are a dollar for my 4 year
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So the other day he's like I can
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His face lit up. 
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himself and he had fun. 
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Feel like bribery gets such a 
bad rap and obviously it can be 

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overdone and done in a way that 
isn't healthy, but also, like 

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all of us, incentivize our 
children in different ways. 

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Yeah, and a lot of ways. 
Like I would not show up for 

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many things in life if I didn't 
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That's how it works in the real 
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Yeah, but I definitely try not 
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And you can't. 
Surfing, it definitely helps 

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because surfing has like this, 
there's this hurdle you have to 

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overcome. 
And like, for example, my 10 

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year old, he's a total shredder 
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And I fully bribed him. 
And I asked him the other day. 

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I was like, are you glad Mama 
bribed you when you were little?

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He's like, yeah, thanks Mom. 
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effective parenting scratch, 
even used correctly. 

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Yeah, And he had a really, like,
he didn't like getting splashed 

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in the face. 
Like, it felt, you know, he 

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didn't like, it took him a while
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just flash. 
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But he was also, like, a little 
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And lo and behold, he became a 
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And I love that he gets to enjoy
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gets to just enjoy the. 
I think it's such a special 

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place for children to spend time
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And for sure, yeah. 
How did, how did that whole 

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experience, starting with the 
shark attack and then, you know,

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being this public figure known 
worldwide, how did all of that 

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shape you into the person, the 
mom, the wife that you are 

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today? 
I heard say what's a blessing is

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I wouldn't say all that shaped 
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I would say more surfing and my 
faith in God shaped me more than

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anything. 
And then on top of that, my 

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family and I've always been very
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And, you know, for me, going in 
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uncomfortable. 
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the ocean was like my regulator.
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Like it was my place of freedom 
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And and then my faith in God 
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ways where is like a lot of the 
other stuff was uncomfortable 

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and I didn't really enjoy it, 
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especially in helping others. 
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documentary Unstoppable, it all 
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encourage people because I think
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continually throughout life. 
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desperate need of that 
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resonates with so many people. 
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Wellness journey a little bit, 
yes, and man motherhood, because

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those things seem to be very 
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But tell us about how your 
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It was after becoming a mom. 
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Kind of. 
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into health in my teenage years.
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We didn't have social media. 
We were the no hydrogenated oil 

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club girls. 
You guys were way ahead of the 

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Ahead of our time, yeah. 

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competing as a professional 
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And so lo and behold, my parents
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blood analysis from a local like
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they didn't want it. 
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Wow. 
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just see my blood and have it 
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And so that was the very start 
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Do you still do those? 
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I did. 
Should go do that. 

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A few years ago. 
It was interesting, yeah. 

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Yeah, so anyway, that like was 
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And and then from there I like I
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educating myself. 
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motherhood after I had my 
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duper active. 
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pushing myself super hard, but 
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sleeping well. 
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in the morning, which I realized
in hindsight, I wasn't getting 

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enough calories. 
I didn't have any eating 

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disorder, but I wasn't. 
I simply wasn't eating enough, 

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which I think a lot of people 
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Especially busy moms. 
Yeah, especially busy moms. 

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So I was just running super 
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and then I would, I was even 
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fasting, which I kind of cringe 
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detrimental. 
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honest, what really was my wake 
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children. 
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and I think it was because I was
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hormones were kind of getting 
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good place. 
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moments in my kitchen where I 
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super noticeable, but I would 
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it would break and shatter and. 
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that. 
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like, you know, like you just 
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I was like ball crying. 
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ball crying because I dropped 
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like made a mess. 
Like I don't think that's 

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normal. 
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a podcast Bunny trail. 
My brother was also having some 

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health issues and so he was 
studying stuff and we would ping

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stuff back and forth and I ended
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metabolic like mineral dense 
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What does that look like? 
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is eating breakfast within 30 
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breakfast is high protein, like 
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know, some potatoes or something
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And then maintaining a similar 
meal plan throughout the day and

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making sure I was getting for me
like close to 4000 calories. 

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So I probably went from eating 
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my calories. 
It's a big increase. 

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Yeah, and and then never eating 
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eating things like organ meats. 
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like bone broth and bee pollen 
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Still eat all the food groups. 
You know, I also have started 

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eating a lot less than nuts and 
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lot of that before for some 
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like maybe more than your 
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seeds like I just always have. 
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least for me, like it didn't sit
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it wasn't the right. 
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free, so I started incorporating
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cheese, raw milk. 
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I do have access to Refresh raw 
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Like I went from pretty like 
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Like I have amazing energy. 
I sleep way better, you know, if

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I wake up in the middle of the 
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Like, you know, it's very rare 
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the night aside from having to 
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So, you know, being a 
professional athlete, pushing it

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really hard, working a lot, high
stress, high pressure, wanting 

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to get my body back, so to say, 
because I was in the public eye.

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But it's really different too 
when you're not only in the 

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public eye, but like, I 
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hard. 
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documentary, so I'm on camera 
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difference to the point where, 
like, nobody's convincing me 

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otherwise because I feel 
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I'm way more mentally, 
emotionally stable and I'm not 

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snapping at my children, which 
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super hard and. 
I love your honesty in 

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mentioning that because I think 
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It's happened to all of us, and 
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any moms listening to hear there
are things that you can do to 

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support your body. 
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so when the frustration or the 
triggers do come, yeah, you can 

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handle it in a better way. 
Yeah, and I think all of us 

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struggle with triggers. 
It's not like I'm perfect now, 

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but I'm definitely not where I 
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Like, you know. 
Set your body up for. 

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Success. 
The child would spill the glass 

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of milk, but it was like a $5 
glass of raw milk. 

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So we were like, stop spilling 
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You know, like truly crying over
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I know that phrase exists for a 
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That's happened multiple times 
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That's one. 
Thing if it's like pasteurized 

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and like the cheap affordable 
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there's. 
Like raw milk that hurts in your

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soul. 
I would literally like be 

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spreading it on my skin because 
they would, like, spill it all 

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over and like, OK, we're going 
doing a facial and hurting a 

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facial here. 
Raw milk facials, everyone. 

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Yeah. 
I really can empathize with moms

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and just like the pressures and 
the workloads and like that 

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undernourishment and drinking 
coffee excessively and like 

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really not caring for ourselves 
in the way that we need because 

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culturally, like a lot of that 
has been promoted. 

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And so when I share stuff on 
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because I'm coming from a place 
of like, I've trialled by error,

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I've made a lot of mistakes. 
I'm like, I dragged my husband 

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into intermittent fasting. 
The poor guy was like shriveling

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up alongside of me. 
Like I need food, but we're not 

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eating till 10 AM, Hun. 
Like we just kind of went down 

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some weird Bunny holes. 
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recommended by integrative 
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And I just, I don't believe in 
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And I think the body thrives 
when you're not running on 

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cortisol and you're supporting 
your hormones to thrive by 

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eating well, like not doing so 
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super stressed out. 
You know, we're getting in 

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nature, we're getting some 
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We're like working on our 
relationships, we're checking in

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with God and we're also like 
managing the lighting in our 

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home like so I really do look. 
At lighting, that's a big one. 

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Health as a a full spectrum of 
like, there's a lot to unpack 

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and once you start unpacking it 
like you just there's something 

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new to continually learn and I 
think that's something I've 

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learned is just being teachable 
and not being so close minded 

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that, you know, we're missing 
out on health and growth and 

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healing and. 
And I think different things 

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sometimes work for different 
people. 

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Like what you described how you 
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I do now. 
I I did used to do a lot of 

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intermittent fasting and I still
do it sometimes because 

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sometimes I just feel like my 
body needs a cleanup like yeah, 

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let's activate some autophagy. 
It's clear my head like it, it 

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feels good to me, but you can 
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And now I do it at, you know, 
the appropriate times of the 

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month and less stressful times 
in my schedule and what not. 

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So there's a lot of intricacies.
That's really interesting too, 

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because I've noticed whenever I 
get sick, for example, like you 

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naturally fast, but I swear I 
always look amazing after I get 

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sick. 
I'm like, whoa, why am I looking

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so good here? 
Like so I think like listening 

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to the body and, and checking 
in, but I do think like some 

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things have just been normal 
ties to an extreme. 

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And I like that your podcast is 
called grounded Wellness. 

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Like I just think grounding our 
Wellness is so important beyond 

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going out in nature and like 
stepping on the grass, but like 

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grounding ourselves, like 
checking in with like, does this

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make sense? 
Am I thriving? 

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Is this actually working and not
just doing something because 

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it's popular or celebrated, like
or has been promoted, you know, 

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as good? 
I think just like getting back 

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to the basics is so important. 
And I agree. 

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I'm just so grateful. 
Like I literally went from like 

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that crying mom because I 
dropped something and kind of 

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snapping up my children to like 
way more calm, way more level 

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headed, like, you know, able to 
like handle the spilled milk. 

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And yeah, I just, I feel like 
it's a night and day difference 

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for me. 
And I feel I'm just so grateful 

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for the journey because I think 
I can also like, share it with 

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other people and help other moms
out there. 

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For sure, I think a lot of moms 
get so caught up with caring for

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their kids and just their To Do 
List and everything around the 

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house that often times they just
kind of forget to to care for 

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themselves. 
But we think about it in this 

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way. 
We have this thing that we say 

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like self health. 
So like self-care I feel like 

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has gone. 
Too extreme. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And to us, like at primarily, 

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pure self health means taking 
care of yourself and 

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prioritizing your personal 
Wellness so that you can better 

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show up for the people around 
you and pour into their lives 

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and fulfill the purpose that you
were called to do on this earth.

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And so I like thinking about it 
that way. 

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It's like it, it can be selfish,
but it doesn't have to be right?

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It can actually be a really 
selfless thing. 

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Was Wellness a priority in your 
family growing up? 

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No, I wouldn't say health was 
much of A priority. 

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And actually, that's something 
that like entering in the 

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motherhood, like, I feel like my
mom lost her health in 

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motherhood, like to the like the
end of like, she didn't care for

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her health as much as she should
have. 

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And she kind of slowly quit 
surfing. 

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Like, I wish my mom was surfing 
with me, not like taking me to 

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surf and sitting on the beach. 
And so when I entered in the 

450
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,520
motherhood, I was like, OK, I'm 
going to give myself the time 

451
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,640
and space to like, take care of 
myself after I have a baby so 

452
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,520
that I can go surf with my 
children, which is what I do. 

453
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,240
I surf with my children. 
And so I'm able to enjoy them 

454
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,080
not much more. 
And while my whole family, like,

455
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,360
does appreciate like certain 
elements of health and, you 

456
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,920
know, when we get together for a
family dinner, it is pretty 

457
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,560
healthy. 
I think there's just been, it's 

458
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,240
just been like kind of a rough 
journey as well in the health 

459
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,680
aspect for a lot of my family 
members. 

460
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,880
And so, yeah, I think, you know,
sometimes I'm like, oh, I need 

461
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,040
to kind of mellow out. 
But, you know, as a mom, there's

462
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,160
also the whole element of like 
caring for your Children's 

463
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Health and being ahead on that. 
And I've seen in my children, 

464
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,240
they're they're thriving in life
in a lot of ways. 

465
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,000
And I know it's because of what 
we're giving them nutrition 

466
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,360
wise. 
We take care of our health. 

467
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,360
They know a lot about health. 
But also like there's some 

468
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,480
elements like my son is mouth 
breathing and I'm trying to like

469
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,320
problem solve that. 
And it is kind of a big 

470
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480
challenge. 
That's a big one. 

471
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,800
And his nervous system is way 
more short. 

472
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,800
Like he kind of reminds me of 
when I was more short nervous 

473
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,880
system mom. 
Like I was struggling because I 

474
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,720
was, my nervous system was like 
stressed out to the Max. 

475
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,560
And so I see like he hasn't 
slept well for years. 

476
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760
And so we're kind of on this 
Bunny trail of like figuring out

477
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,400
his breathing and like, what do 
we do to help him develop 

478
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,280
healthy breathing as he entered,
like grows up? 

479
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,480
And so there's just so much to 
unpack and learn. 

480
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320
And like, that's another thing I
didn't even mention. 

481
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,120
Like breathing well is so 
important. 

482
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,360
Like I'm a mouth breather too. 
So I've tape my mouth at night. 

483
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,440
Makes a big difference. 
It seems like, you know, my 

484
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,080
bedtime routine seems kind of 
extreme. 

485
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:37,120
Oh my gosh. 
Literally sleeping is important.

486
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,600
Like greasing my bag. 
OK, so I was telling Bethany, 

487
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,920
yeah, I sleep here. 
I flew in yesterday and my 

488
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,680
luggage didn't arrive and they 
had no idea where it was. 

489
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,560
It finally arrived today, thank 
God. 

490
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,160
But last night, OK, everything 
was in there. 

491
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,520
My clothes for today. 
I should have brought you a 

492
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,920
little sleeping. 
Here the thing I was the most 

493
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,680
sad about was my all my sleep 
stuff was in my bed. 

494
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,360
So like I really needed to sleep
well last night I didn't really,

495
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,320
it was wasn't the worst, but I 
didn't, I have so many sleep 

496
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,360
things and I'm like, it may be 
like some people may see it as 

497
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,240
excessive. 
And I'm like, there are so many 

498
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,360
things in our worlds that are 
working against us. 

499
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,680
Like, why not implement these 
little tweaks that make a big 

500
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,840
difference and make you feel 
better? 

501
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,080
Yeah. 
No, I can relate to that so 

502
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,880
much. 
So we travel a lot and I know a 

503
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,880
lot of people couldn't handle 
the sort of travel we do. 

504
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,320
We bring our all our children, 
we're on the road like three to 

505
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,760
four months a year. 
Wow. 

506
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,880
And so that's why I invest so 
much into my health so I can 

507
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,600
keep up with this rigorous 
travel schedule. 

508
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,280
I actually travel with like 
sleep gear in my purse now in 

509
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,200
case our bags ever get. 
Lost I'm doing so I. 

510
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Have like this little bag as my 
vagus nerve stimulator mouth 

511
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,760
tape. 
What's your plus nerve 

512
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160
stimulator? 
So this is something I just got 

513
00:28:54,160 --> 00:29:00,120
and I it's like for when you're 
kind of having like your blood 

514
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040
rushing, you know, as I was 
merely. 

515
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Feeling that last night, yeah, I
sleep and being so upset that I 

516
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,840
didn't have my sleep stuff. 
So I got an ad on Instagram but 

517
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,640
it's like you put it on your 
vagus nerve and it kind of 

518
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,360
stimulates. 
So you wouldn't feel it on 

519
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,040
certain parts of your body 
except for nerves. 

520
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,640
And so you put it over your 
vagus nerve and it can help you 

521
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,440
calm down. 
And I've been using it now for 

522
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,880
like a year and I'm super 
grateful for it. 

523
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,000
Like anytime I'm feeling like 
uptight as a mom, I'll do that. 

524
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,600
And. 
How long do you have to do it 

525
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,240
for? 
It's just a couple minutes, so 

526
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,640
it's not like a big commitment. 
So I just have it in my purse 

527
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,800
all the time. 
And anytime I feel that like 

528
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,840
kind of, you know, getting 
uptight feeling, I'll do that. 

529
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,480
I kind of want to hear your 
whole sleep routine now. 

530
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Can you walk us through it? 
For me, my sleep routine is 

531
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400
actually like, spending like an 
hour and a half getting our 

532
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,840
children to sleep. 
Yeah, like, I've set an alarm on

533
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,360
my phone at like, 7:45, get the 
children to sleep. 

534
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,040
Half of the time we're just 
finishing dinner and then my 

535
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,680
husband's reading to the big 
older children, and then I'll go

536
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,320
and nurse my little one. 
Hopefully she'll go down. 

537
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,880
Half of the time she doesn't so 
she ends up staying up late and 

538
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,520
then I'll snuggle my 4 year old 
to sleep and he really thrives 

539
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,400
on mom snuggles. 
If the very least dad snuggles. 

540
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,400
And then either my husband 
carries, bounces my baby to 

541
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,400
sleep, our baby to sleep, or we 
take her in the stroller and 

542
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880
she'll conk out in the stroller 
and then we transfer her. 

543
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,600
But sometime in that window, we 
turn the lights down like we 

544
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,720
have our house now all lit with 
orange lighting or red lighting.

545
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,720
So everyone's supported to have 
their circadian rhythms more 

546
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,080
attuned to nature. 
And and then I do just like 

547
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,800
clean my face, put the, you 
know, moisturizer on, but not 

548
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840
too much around my mouth because
I got to put the mouth tape on. 

549
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,480
So since we've been going down 
the Bunny trail of my 7 year old

550
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,080
not breathing well, we took them
to a special dentist in Oahu who

551
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:13,520
specializes in airway dentistry 
and I think my husband and I 

552
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,600
both have airway issues as well.
So now I got this little thing I

553
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,320
stick up my nose and it opens 
your nostrils. 

554
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,640
It is night and day like. 
Hey I need my. 

555
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,680
Nose is wider and now I feel 
like this flood of air coming. 

556
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,920
So I put the nose thing in, put 
the mouth tape on earplugs, eye 

557
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,320
blankie after we read a little 
bit and the babies are all 

558
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,360
sleeping, you know, talk to 
hubby and then we're we're out 

559
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,880
and I usually fall asleep within
10 minutes. 

560
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,440
So sounds. 
Like I went from like to my 

561
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,000
sleep routine. 
I went from half teen to like 

562
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,280
you know sometimes it would take
me an hour to fall asleep. 

563
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,360
I try not to look at my phone. 
If I am looking at my phone 

564
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,640
after I put the children to 
sleep, I have red blue light 

565
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920
blockers on. 
Do you do the red light setting 

566
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,120
on your phone where you can make
the screen all red? 

567
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,680
No, show it to you. 
It's really easy to make it 

568
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,360
super simple. 
Yeah, you then you just you 

569
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,200
program it so you click the side
three times and then it goes to 

570
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,280
red mode. 
I'll send you a blog post about 

571
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,280
it. 
But it's easy. 

572
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Oh my gosh, yeah, I haven't done
that. 

573
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,160
I need to know about these 
nostril things because same like

574
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400
another add this to the list of 
similarities. 

575
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,760
But I have like airway. 
I'm realizing that I have a 

576
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,040
small airway also. 
Yeah. 

577
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,120
And I started using for a little
while. 

578
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,960
Breathe right strips. 
Totally. 

579
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,000
And then you put it on top, but 
then it's kind of. 

580
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,120
Adhesive. 
It's so intense. 

581
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Like 1 adhesive 1 and I felt 
like I was ripping my skin off. 

582
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Yeah, I didn't like it. 
Was intense so. 

583
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Like I love the the feeling of 
it, but if yours doesn't have 

584
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040
that and it still gives that 
same effect, I would. 

585
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,320
I guess. 
I guess they were designed for 

586
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,640
people who snore. 
So if you snore, it's likely you

587
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,960
have airway issues. 
So you put it in your nose and 

588
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,400
it kind of just spreads your 
nose apart. 

589
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,920
It's not uncomfortable. 
It's totally doesn't help me at 

590
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,080
all. 
I don't know the name. 

591
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440
Of it, that's fine, I'll send 
you a picture. 

592
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,360
I'll send you a picture of 
whatever it is. 

593
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,560
Oh my gosh, 7 year old like he 
loves putting it in. 

594
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,680
He's he wants it because he 
feels the difference and even 

595
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,520
all our children are getting 
mouth TAFE on as well because 

596
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,080
they all are opening their 
mouth. 

597
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,880
We've been on this rigorous, 
like trying to retrain them to 

598
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,640
hold their tongue on the top of 
their mouth and close their 

599
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,000
mouth all throughout the day. 
And it's honestly pretty uphill 

600
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,280
battle. 
Like, I don't think, you know, 

601
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,360
it's pretty hard to get your 
children to close their mouth if

602
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640
they're accustomed to leaving 
their mouth open all day. 

603
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,280
But the chances are like that's 
going to become such a big issue

604
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,680
in their adult life and it 
already is an issue. 

605
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Now it's known that you'll have 
more cavities if your mouth is 

606
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,000
open and your mouth breathing. 
Affects the bacteria in your 

607
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,680
gut. 
It's having proper oxygenation 

608
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,640
makes that the gut situation so 
much better. 

609
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,720
So it's like, it's so 
frustrating with health because 

610
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,680
on one hand I want to be like, 
it's simple, but I do feel like 

611
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,199
we're in a time where there is 
just more issues because of the 

612
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:15,280
way our diet and how a lot of 
things are just not as natural 

613
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,840
as they used to be. 
And so, yeah, as a very, a very 

614
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120
health conscious family, there's
a lot to unpack. 

615
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,280
And yeah, I keep talking about 
this because I kind of take the 

616
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,840
burden on as mom. 
I'm like, Oh my gosh, like I 

617
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,679
should have way more empathy on 
my 7 year old. 

618
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,400
Like, you know, he's a little 
more short tempered. 

619
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,679
He gets more impatient with like
noises and lights and stuff like

620
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:44,080
that. 
And it's truly because of like 

621
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,920
his nervous system is just not 
as regulated and calm. 

622
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,199
And so for him, he gets like 
he's a little more up and down, 

623
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,159
even though he's such a joy and 
he's such a sweet kid, but it's.

624
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,840
Just just having that knowledge 
and understanding, it's probably

625
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,200
helpful like even if you're, you
know, just starting in the 

626
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,960
process. 
Oh my gosh, It's like totally 

627
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,280
helped us be more patient with 
him. 

628
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Just understanding like, Oh my 
gosh, breathing is such a key 

629
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,240
component to health. 
You can be, you know, doing a 

630
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,680
lot of good things for your 
health, but if you're not 

631
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,360
breathing well, like it's 
literally one of the key 

632
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,440
pillars, I think, to good 
health. 

633
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,680
And so, yeah, we're slowly 
unpacking all the things. 

634
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,040
I've always thought that surfers
have got to be the most healthy 

635
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,640
athletes out of any sport 
because you guys are. 

636
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,880
In. 
Outdoors, you're grounded when 

637
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,200
you're surfing, I believe, 
because the water, all the 

638
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680
minerals in the water are 
conductive with the the earth. 

639
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,280
You're getting sunshine, fresh 
air, like minerals in the water.

640
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,640
I mean, do you feel like that 
among like this community of 

641
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,600
surfers that you know, like are 
they generally pretty healthy 

642
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,800
people? 
I want someone to study this but

643
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,280
I just feel like surfers have to
be super helpful. 

644
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,760
No, I think surfers have a lot 
going for them. 

645
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,800
And just the fact that we're 
spending time in nature and 

646
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:09,000
getting sunshine and, you know, 
grounding in the ocean. 

647
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,360
I feel like that's why I 
mentioned when I was a little 

648
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,240
girl, like coming back to the 
ocean and surfing after being in

649
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,320
the city and having people 
interview me and being in front 

650
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,520
of a camera, it was a lot on me.
And so coming back, surfing was 

651
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,360
such a grounding place for me to
go and just be myself and kind 

652
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,920
of regulate. 
But yeah, I think a lot of 

653
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,800
surfers naturally have way more 
health than much of the 

654
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,080
population because we're slowing
down too, and we're getting in 

655
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,720
nature. 
And it's such a place to be 

656
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,520
present. 
You're not bringing your phone 

657
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,840
with. 
There's not a bunch of 

658
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,800
distractions. 
And yeah, I think. 

659
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,680
Circadian rhythms are probably 
so on point because a lot of 

660
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,320
times you guys are out there 
early in the morning at sunrise.

661
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,400
Like makes me want to start. 
Yeah, whenever we're running 

662
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,320
hard, you know, getting in the 
beach and surfing a lot, I feel 

663
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,160
like my whole family, we're all 
just conking out so fast. 

664
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Yeah, this is how it's supposed 
to be. 

665
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,200
We should be going to bed tired.
Yeah, as someone who's in the 

666
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,480
sun a lot, what does your 
relationship with the sun look 

667
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,080
like? 
Yeah, I mean, sometimes I get 

668
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,840
kind of sun thrash, I'll be 
honest, But I tried to make my 

669
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,080
sun hours between, you know, 
like getting out of the sun 

670
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,200
around 11:00 AM, if not covering
up from 11, it's 2:30 or three. 

671
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,560
But as a mom, sometimes my 
window to go surf is midday, so.

672
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,960
During that time. 
Put like cover up with a long 

673
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,160
sleeve rash guard and sometimes 
I'll even surf in the hot or 

674
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,920
just put a really thick coat of 
sunscreen on. 

675
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,040
So yeah, I mean, I don't think 
I'm like have all the answers 

676
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,200
there. 
And like my skin's kind of 

677
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,680
thrash from the sun, but it 
doesn't look like it. 

678
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,400
It looks great. 
You know, like sometimes I, 

679
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560
yeah, it just kind of depends on
the day and time. 

680
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:10,040
But I also, I've been embracing 
the sun more and just like, and 

681
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,200
I feel like for me, it's been a 
place of healing to just get in 

682
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,960
nature and get some sunshine on 
and slow down and be present. 

683
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,040
And so whether I'm surfing or at
the beach with my children, I 

684
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000
feel like there's more pros and 
cons. 

685
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,080
But I will say, like, I was a 
part of a documentary recently, 

686
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,560
Fed a Lie, and it was all about 
the seed oil movement in our 

687
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,880
food industry. 
And there's a lot to unpack 

688
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,160
there. 
I would highly recommend 

689
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,640
watching that film because I 
think a lot of people are 

690
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,000
doubters, but I started cutting 
out seed oils like five years 

691
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,920
ago now. 
And it's we don't really bring 

692
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,520
it in our house. 
And you know, we'll still eat 

693
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,680
out sometimes, but we don't eat 
out much and we eat a lot less 

694
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,840
nuts and seeds than we used to. 
And I feel like I'm way more 

695
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,600
resilient to the sun than I was 
say, like 10 years ago when I 

696
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,040
was consuming a lot of that. 
Like I would just kind of have 

697
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,960
that fried red look where is 
now. 

698
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,560
I still get I still will get 
sunburned, but it's not as bad. 

699
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Like, it's more of a like 
natural sunburn, I would say. 

700
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,400
That midday sun, yeah. 
We've noticed that in our 

701
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,600
family, too. 
We've been avoiding seed oils 

702
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,760
for probably about a decade, but
have gotten way more serious 

703
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,280
about it in the last couple of 
years. 

704
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,240
Yeah, and I do feel like it's 
made a difference with burning 

705
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
much less. 
What role has your faith played 

706
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,920
in your Wellness journey? 
Oh my goodness. 

707
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,280
I feel like it's so like the 
grounder of all grounders for 

708
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,640
all the ups and downs and 
challenges. 

709
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,200
And actually like before we 
started recording, I like had a 

710
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,240
little like started crying 
because I was like thinking of 

711
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:51,240
all the stressful things in my 
life. 

712
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,520
And you know, I, as much as I 
love getting in nature and the 

713
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,880
ocean, like the most surest 
thing I feel like in my life is.

714
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,440
Knowing that God, his grace is 
sufficient for me and everyone I

715
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,720
share life with. 
And that's been like my greatest

716
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,760
grounder through all the ups and
downs and the trials. 

717
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,960
And even 13 year old Bethany, 
like she had such a resiliency 

718
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,600
that I can only attribute to 
God. 

719
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,680
And yeah, Fast forward now and 
like the ups and downs of 

720
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,920
marriage and motherhood and 
business and all the many 

721
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,120
challenges and just like family 
dynamics. 

722
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,920
And there's just been a lot in 
my life that's been extremely 

723
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,680
hard. 
Like I would say like the last 

724
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:44,000
four years has been like the 
hardest season in my life and on

725
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,880
so many different levels too, 
that I am just grateful for my 

726
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,240
faith. 
And I look to God to be the 

727
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:56,800
author and finisher of all the 
hard things and all the ups and 

728
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,440
downs and most certainly my 
faith. 

729
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,520
And to kind of be able to 
forgive myself at the end of the

730
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,400
day when things don't go 
perfect, or be able to forgive 

731
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,200
my husband for the wrongs he 
does to me or whoever we may 

732
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,520
share life with when things 
don't go right. 

733
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,880
Being able to carry ourselves in
a way that's grounded in what 

734
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,440
God calls. 
And he calls, first of all, he 

735
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480
promises his grace and 
forgiveness on our life. 

736
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,760
And like, I think much of the 
world is so angry and bitter and

737
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,240
resentful for one thing or 
another. 

738
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:38,320
And that can be so disruptive on
our heart and mind and overall 

739
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,160
health. 
And while I don't want it to be 

740
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,880
for my health, I do think it 
contributes to good health 

741
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:51,560
because I'm able to like, let go
of like the bad things and like 

742
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,000
the frustrating things or the 
mistakes I might make along the 

743
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,720
way. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

744
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,560
That's beautiful. 
We have a lot of moms in our 

745
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,200
audience, and I know there are 
probably some moms listening who

746
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,560
maybe they want their family to 
live a healthier lifestyle, but 

747
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,440
they either don't know where to 
start or maybe they're going 

748
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,320
through financial struggles and 
feel like it's unattainable. 

749
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920
What would you say to encourage 
anyone in that position? 

750
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,240
Oh my goodness, yes, I've been 
thinking about this a lot. 

751
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,960
And I recently launched a 
podcast as well. 

752
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,200
And I've actually been trying to
find someone to help me do a 

753
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,840
episode on like living healthy 
on a budget. 

754
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,720
Because, you know, for my family
growing up, like a lot of times 

755
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:37,080
we did eat really convenient 
food and we ate a lot of like 

756
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,560
Taco Bell and Burger King 
growing up. 

757
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,880
And it really played a toll on 
my mom's health. 

758
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,400
And I would say everyone's 
health, but even more so on my 

759
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,520
mom's health to the point where 
she had a lot of thyroid issues.

760
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,200
And I remember when I was like a
young or a older child, but 

761
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040
young teenager, like she would 
just be laying in bed and I 

762
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,640
would go and like spend time 
with her in her bed because she 

763
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:05,280
had health issues from all the 
like poor lifestyle choices. 

764
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,760
And it kind of like put a fire 
under my butt to like really 

765
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,120
take care of myself. 
And so I think there is so much 

766
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,240
you can do that doesn't cost a 
lot of money. 

767
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,280
Like literally there's so much 
you can do. 

768
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,440
And I think starting with like, 
focusing on your connection with

769
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,960
your family, so putting away the
distractions and the noises and 

770
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,000
trying to unravel like any 
disconnects that may be 

771
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,720
happening between you and your 
children or you and your 

772
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:36,840
husband. 
I think like, that is the number

773
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,880
one thing I would suggest for 
health, being connected as a 

774
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,840
family. 
Yeah. 

775
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,480
So turning off the TV, putting 
away the devices, getting in 

776
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,360
nature and spending time 
together and like really 

777
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,760
building your relationships as a
family and trying to unravel any

778
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,080
challenges that may be happening
that need focus and not 

779
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,680
ignoring, you know, some of the 
things that may be kind of like 

780
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480
this seems off, but I can't 
quite pinpoint why. 

781
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,600
I like keep trying to figure out
why. 

782
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,240
Yeah, I think God gave us that 
intuition for a reason. 

783
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,680
As moms, it's important to tune 
into that. 

784
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,840
Right. 
And like, I've just found with 

785
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,040
my three-year old or my, my now 
4 year old, like he was such a 

786
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,520
hot head for, for like a while. 
And I think that's just like the

787
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,920
season of barbaricness where 
like from 2:00 to 4:00 about 

788
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,320
they're kind of barbaric and 
they just like cannot hold it 

789
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,920
together. 
So you kind of have to hold it 

790
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,920
together for them. 
And once I just like figured 

791
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,880
that out, like, instead of being
like, hey, go lay down in your 

792
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,480
room for like you're being 
naughty, Like go lay down in 

793
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,200
your room. 
Not that I tell him he's being 

794
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,800
naughty, but in my head I might 
be thinking it. 

795
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,200
But now I'll like grab him, hug 
him and sit on the rocking chair

796
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,160
and literally it'll be resolved 
in 2 minutes and then we move on

797
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,800
with our day. 
And so like simple shifts of 

798
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,480
like, is this the best method 
for this child? 

799
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,600
Like really trying to key in on 
their needs and sometimes they 

800
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,320
truly need that connection. 
And so that's been such a big 

801
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,680
shift. 
Like I literally saw my 3, 

802
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,840
three-year old girlfriend like 
always being kind of crazy and 

803
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,360
like screaming and like kind of 
like having a lot of meltdowns. 

804
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,720
And then I would just like, you 
know, snuggle him, look him in 

805
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:27,080
the eye or trying to change the 
subject if he's like kind of 

806
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,760
getting riled up. 
And it's been so cool to see the

807
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,920
change in him. 
And it's been like made our 

808
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,760
house a lot more peaceful. 
Granted, he is getting older, so

809
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,160
maybe he's kind of growing out 
of that barbaric season. 

810
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,400
I think that's so key though, 
like trying to find ways to 

811
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,120
connect through the discipline, 
through the correction. 

812
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,000
Like that's been huge with my 
kids too. 

813
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,400
Like not just not that there's 
not a time where you can like 

814
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,000
send your kid to a room for a 
time out, but like, I don't know

815
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,880
if you can maybe go on a walk 
with them or just creating an 

816
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,040
opportunity to connect with them
and then talk them through it 

817
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,280
versus just kind of like, OK, 
punishment is done, let's move 

818
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,680
on. 
Or like I've found with my older

819
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,360
boys, I'm like, they know right 
and wrong. 

820
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,320
They know and they're up to no 
good. 

821
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,880
And so if I feel really heated 
at them and I'm like wanting to 

822
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,360
say things that I shouldn't say 
or raise my voice in a way that 

823
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,920
I don't want to, that's when I 
actually really appreciate time 

824
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,880
out because I would rather get 
space from them than damage them

825
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,560
with my words or tone or like 
anger. 

826
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,800
And then we work through it 
later on. 

827
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,800
So I feel like there are times 
and places for certain methods. 

828
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,920
And we are pretty like more on 
the lines of respectful, 

829
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,720
peaceful, but we also have like 
more of a balance, I would say. 

830
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:50,720
And sometimes like, yeah, we 
just have different approaches 

831
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,480
per the situation and. 
For sure the age matters, the 

832
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,200
kid matters. 
Like there's a lot to consider, 

833
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:59,680
right? 
With discipline, you home school

834
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,760
your kids. 
We do as well. 

835
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,560
My kids are part of a homeschool
pod. 

836
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,600
Why did you guys make the 
decision to homeschool? 

837
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Well, I homeschooled from 6th 
grade on. 

838
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,600
So I went to a public elementary
school and then I homeschooled 

839
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,880
because I was becoming quite the
little athlete. 

840
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,240
And where we live it was a 40 
minute drive to school. 

841
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:22,160
So it was like an hour and a 
half driving every day. 

842
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,280
Plus it was a very average 
school and we couldn't afford a 

843
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
private school. 
So lo and behold, I started 

844
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,800
homeschooling and I just loved 
that. 

845
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:35,240
I feel like I developed a lot of
good things by doing home 

846
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,400
schooling. 
And granted, I started traveling

847
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,760
internationally pretty young. 
And so I also learned a lot 

848
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,960
through travel and through work 
ethic in my sport of surfing and

849
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,680
the various things that I did. 
And I just knew that was 

850
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,520
something I always wanted to 
give my children. 

851
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,080
But also, I'm still doing 
motivational speaking and we 

852
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,960
still travel a lot, so we really
can't keep up with the normal 

853
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,680
school calendar and we're not 
willing to like, devote our 

854
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,080
calendar to the school calendar.
And so it's been, yeah, it's 

855
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,520
been super amazing. 
I love having my children close.

856
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,320
We have great relationships, so 
I love being with them all day. 

857
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,800
Like, I'm not like, granted, my 
husband and I both work from 

858
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,360
home and he helps kind of 
teamwork, you know, we have our 

859
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,360
podcasts. 
We do. 

860
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,200
I do motivational speaking and 
she's kind of helping running 

861
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,480
the show. 
So we're kind of bouncing in and

862
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,320
out all day long and you know, 
we can touch base. 

863
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,360
But then I'll go and like, for 
example, yesterday I took my my 

864
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,680
children and my nephews to go 
skate at the skate park. 

865
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,080
And it's a lot more than just 
skateboarding. 

866
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,640
To me, it's like putting in time
to develop a skill. 

867
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,120
And I hire a coach like once or 
twice a month. 

868
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,680
And I love the coach because he 
teaches in a different way than 

869
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,840
I do. 
So they're having this 

870
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,120
opportunity to learn from 
someone who I think is really 

871
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,200
respectable. 
And yeah, I just see them 

872
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,200
growing in different ways in the
life that we're living. 

873
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,440
And, you know, I think a lot of 
people are like, I can't afford 

874
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,920
it, but half of my friends are 
living on a single income and 

875
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,640
they're all homeschooling their 
children. 

876
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,280
And I know it looks different 
for everyone, but I feel like 

877
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,440
where there's a will, there's a 
way and you can learn to budget.

878
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,160
You know, I know that there's 
different views around this, but

879
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,960
it's just really interesting to 
see. 

880
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Like all my friends are, you 
know, we live in the most 

881
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,640
expensive place in the world, 
Kauai, and they're all living on

882
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,560
a single income. 
Their husbands are working super

883
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,920
hard and they're making big 
sacrifices to live the life that

884
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,080
they want to live and raise 
their children in the way that 

885
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,160
they want to raise them. 
So yeah, I just have a lot of 

886
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,400
thoughts there, but I love being
able to. 

887
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,760
I think like adults should raise
children and not children 

888
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,480
raising children. 
So that's one reason why we home

889
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,480
school, we want faith to be the 
foundation of our education too.

890
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,800
So, you know, we're able to have
a slower morning and we have 

891
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,480
like a Bible study every 
morning. 

892
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,480
And I feel like that would be 
really hard to do if we were, 

893
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,880
you know, trying to hustle out 
the door to school and even 

894
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,520
coming home from school. 
Yeah, I was just going to ask 

895
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,000
like what is an average day look
like for you guys? 

896
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,400
Our oranges are like kind of all
over the place. 

897
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,080
But yeah, a lot of time at home,
my children see my husband and I

898
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,480
working too. 
They're kind of integrated into 

899
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,080
it. 
So I think that's really cool. 

900
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,240
Like my they get to kind of be a
part of it. 

901
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,040
We try to explain a lot Like my 
my 10 year old now he just 

902
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,000
turned 10. 
He is seeing the insurance and 

903
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,600
outs of the way we do things. 
And I think that's like 

904
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,040
priceless. 
And I'm hoping once he turns 13,

905
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,160
he is an assistant to my 
husband. 

906
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,920
So that's the sort of vision I 
have. 

907
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,920
Like, my husband will be raising
our boys in particular as they 

908
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,760
go from 13 to adults. 
Very cool. 

909
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,960
Yeah. 
So there's just two. 

910
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Like, I want them to be healthy.
I want them to have character, A

911
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,000
lot of these things that they 
won't be taught in school. 

912
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,320
I want them to understand 
finances, taxes, and yeah, I 

913
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,960
feel like a lot of schooling is 
a waste of time. 

914
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,080
And so trying to take our time 
and make the most of it in a 

915
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,920
shorter increment. 
So a lot of our school days are 

916
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,880
very short, like less than two 
hours and and then we're getting

917
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,720
in nature. 
Also, we have a unique setup 

918
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:37,200
where my parents live on 
property, they live in our guest

919
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,880
house. 
So my boys are often with their 

920
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,120
grandma, she's educating them in
her own unique way or they're 

921
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,840
helping serve her. 
And so they have like a lot of 

922
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,200
exposure to different people, 
like from young to old. 

923
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,960
They're very hands on with my 
daughter and they can converse 

924
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,200
with any age very well. 
And I think that is really 

925
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,000
beautiful. 
And so that's the many reasons 

926
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,080
we're homeschooling. 
There's so many more. 

927
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,720
But yeah, I also like with the 
way cell phones are being used 

928
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:13,160
for children now, You know, 
young boys are being exposed to 

929
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,840
pornography very young. 
And I don't think that I want my

930
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,560
children around boys who are 
exposed to pornography because 

931
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,440
they are maturing and talking 
about things they shouldn't be 

932
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,040
at such young ages. 
And so that is in the school 

933
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,280
system, whether you want to face
that or not. 

934
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,960
And so that's a major reason 
too, why we're keeping our boys 

935
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,000
home, just to keep them away 
from that as long as possible. 

936
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,960
And it's amazing, like how 
intrinsic the desire to learn is

937
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,160
in kids. 
Like I am so not a mom who is 

938
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,000
concerned with like how my kids 
are testing or any of that 

939
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,080
stuff. 
I could not care less because I 

940
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,160
see them everyday and I'm with 
them everyday and I see how 

941
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,160
they're developing and growing 
and learning and I'm like, I try

942
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,000
to encourage each one in, you 
know, whatever they're 

943
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,520
interested in at the time and 
you know, they are doing well in

944
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,800
writing and like they seem to be
on pace. 

945
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,040
I don't actually know because I 
don't test them, but I just, I 

946
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,520
don't know. 
I think if you're like spending 

947
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,800
the time with with your child 
and like really just know them, 

948
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,520
know their heart, know where 
they're at, know their 

949
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,600
interests, like everyone's 
that's going to develop in 

950
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,240
different ways. 
And it's, it's really cool when 

951
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,760
you're like, with them enough to
really like see that. 

952
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,160
And and then I think that kind 
of takes away the concern of 

953
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,640
like, are they on track? 
Are they on track? 

954
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,960
And it's like, you know, you 
know how they're doing. 

955
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:36,920
I don't know. 
It's just like. 

956
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,960
Yeah. 
And even if they're not on 

957
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,440
track, like maybe that's another
reason why they should be home 

958
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,080
schooled. 
Like I have a friend, her 

959
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,880
daughter is very, very smart. 
Like, she could like, memorize a

960
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,680
book in a couple of sittings. 
And then she wasn't doing really

961
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,480
well in school and her teachers 
were like, kind of suggesting 

962
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,480
she go on medication or, you 
know, like, she's just not doing

963
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,040
good. 
And my friend was like, but 

964
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,120
like, what I see in my daughter 
is very gifted and she's very 

965
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,960
smart. 
And so lo and behold, she's 

966
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,560
going to homeschool her. 
So that's going to be really 

967
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,600
interesting to see how her 
daughter thrives or doesn't. 

968
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,280
It's we'll see. 
Yeah. 

969
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,840
But I really, I just wanted to 
throw out some recommendations 

970
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,120
because whenever I listen to 
podcasts, I love hearing 

971
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,480
recommendations. 
Yeah. 

972
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,000
So I really love the Unhurried 
Homeschool. 

973
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,640
I've read that book like 3 Times
Now. 

974
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,480
And I keep reading it because I 
just want to keep on top of 

975
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,120
things. 
Yeah. 

976
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:35,400
And it's a very simple, very 
painless read, very short. 

977
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,160
You can read it in like a few 
days, a few sittings. 

978
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,280
And then the other other 
influencer I like in home 

979
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,520
schooling world is the Charlotte
Mason. 

980
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,640
So I forget the book I liked. 
I can send it to you and you can

981
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,680
put it in the show notes though.
But those were like the two 

982
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,040
biggest influences I had. 
So if you are interested in home

983
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,440
schooling, like it doesn't have 
to be like this super crazy 

984
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,480
endeavor where it's just 
overwhelming and it consumes 

985
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,520
your entire life because we do a
lot outside of schooling. 

986
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,040
And, you know, my children are 
often like, baking in the 

987
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,440
kitchen or creating something 
and yeah. 

988
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,320
I helped him say, like, it's not
necessarily about taking the 

989
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,400
public school system into your 
home, right? 

990
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,880
It's kind of creating your own 
system. 

991
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,600
Right. 
And and two, I think the timing 

992
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,720
for children too, is like a lot 
of pressure is being put on like

993
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,000
a four or five year old to hurry
up and learn to read. 

994
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,800
I started my eldest son learning
to read at 4:00 and it was such 

995
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:40,360
a painful uphill battle. 
I took my 7 year old, who he's 7

996
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,800
now, and I started him at six 
and it was so enjoyable. 

997
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,320
Yeah. 
Like he learned, like he learned

998
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,840
really easily. 
I did do a little app with him. 

999
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,920
We don't do much tech, but I did
this one app where he could 

1000
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,800
learn, eh is ah, you know, 
pretty quickly and he had a lot 

1001
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,200
of fun with that, especially 
because he doesn't get to go on 

1002
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,800
screens ever. 
But he learned to read so 

1003
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160
painlessly. 
And so I think sometimes like 

1004
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,320
the pressures are coming on too 
young and he didn't really need 

1005
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,040
to learn to read. 
Like I would say we spent a lot 

1006
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,120
of time reading though. 
So I we would read aloud. 

1007
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,120
That was another influence I had
was the read aloud family. 

1008
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,000
So we read aloud a lot like 
we've gone through. 

1009
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,440
There is a book called the read 
aloud family. 

1010
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,840
I never did read it. 
I just heard a podcast on the 

1011
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,400
women who wrote it and I was 
like, OK, we're going to be a 

1012
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,160
read aloud family. 
So we read aloud a lot, like 

1013
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,040
we've read a ton of chapter book
series and it's interesting 

1014
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,200
seeing my 4 year old like the 
proof is kind of in the pudding.

1015
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,000
You know, my 4 year old, his 
vocabulary is incredible. 

1016
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,320
Like sometimes I hear him 
talking like how are you talking

1017
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,080
like that? 
Like no one in our family talks 

1018
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,840
that well, you know, like I'm 
kind of come from like a more 

1019
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,440
slang background. 
I'm like a surfer and don't have

1020
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,360
like the best vocabulary or way 
of speaking even though I am a 

1021
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,160
motivational speaker. 
But just seeing my 4 year old, 

1022
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,840
I'm like, he has been in the 
room with the big boys reading 

1023
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,120
all their books, reading aloud 
since he was a baby. 

1024
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,440
And so it's just been like so 
cool to see. 

1025
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,400
And then that family, my 7 year 
old's like he's almost over the 

1026
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,680
top. 
I'm like, dude, we're not 

1027
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,160
reading right now. 
Like we got to go do other 

1028
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,880
things. 
We got to do house chores and 

1029
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,680
like take care of life. 
He's like, no, let's read. 

1030
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,600
He's like that like nagging. 
So sweet. 

1031
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,160
Kind of. 
Kids like who see their parents 

1032
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,760
read too. 
That has a huge influence on 

1033
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,720
them. 
And like, I mean, Adam and I 

1034
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,320
read, but not that much. 
I mean, I wish I had more time 

1035
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,560
to read, but it's not like I 
have that much time to read. 

1036
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,840
We basically only read a 
devotional and then I'll read 

1037
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,440
like maybe a half a chapter at 
bedtime. 

1038
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,960
Yeah. 
But otherwise, all our readings 

1039
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,480
with them. 
One of my favorite authors for 

1040
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:04,120
young children between maybe 7 
and 14 is SD Smith. 

1041
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,880
He's like ACS Lewis. 
What the green number series? 

1042
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,360
I don't think I've. 
Oh my gosh, you need to get 

1043
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,440
these book series. 
OK, like the it's like this 

1044
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,120
battle of like bunnies and 
wolves and birds of prey, but it

1045
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,960
reminds me of like a Lord of the
Rings slash Chronicles of 

1046
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,560
Narnia. 
Like on that level, the 

1047
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,840
intellectual like kind of 
battles that the characters 

1048
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,680
have. 
It's very much the fight of good

1049
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,240
and evil and the character 
stories. 

1050
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,240
Maybe a little too much violence
for some parents, but they're. 

1051
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,240
Silenced with a purpose. 
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of real 

1052
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,320
life if you're really breaking 
it down. 

1053
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,560
And the fact that it's Bunny is 
it maybe feels a little less 

1054
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,600
violent. 
Granted, my 4 year old kind of, 

1055
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,600
you know, he's usually playing 
in the yard with swords and 

1056
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,080
stuff and sometimes I'm like, 
oh, we might have read that too 

1057
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,000
soon to him. 
Boy stuff. 

1058
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,720
OK, we're going to have so many 
good things to put in the show 

1059
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,680
notes. 
I'm so excited. 

1060
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,200
How do you guys navigate screens
in your home? 

1061
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:14,120
So I'll be honest, I wish I did 
a better job as a mom because a 

1062
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,000
lot of my work is on my phone 
and we live in a smaller house 

1063
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,280
now so my children see me 
getting work done. 

1064
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,240
But for a while I did have all 
my social media on a different 

1065
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,360
device and I loved that. 
But my device broke so I got to 

1066
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,280
recover all that and it's been a
while and I even bought a new 

1067
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,400
phone and then the new phone 
wasn't working good. 

1068
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,880
But I will say if you're a mom 
that struggles with like social 

1069
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,600
media addiction, if you can get 
your social media off your main 

1070
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,960
device, game changer. 
Really good advice. 

1071
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,480
Like game changer for me. 
Like, instead of being in the 

1072
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,800
grocery store and randomly 
scrolling just cuz like, you can

1073
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,920
just live normal life and not 
scroll all the time. 

1074
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,160
Yeah. 
Setting a boundary, I think as a

1075
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,360
wife or a mom, like, if you can 
hone in on your own issues first

1076
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,600
and foremost. 
But I knew early on I wasn't 

1077
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,280
going to have our children on 
devices. 

1078
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,560
And, you know, it's interesting.
I'm like, seeing stuff on social

1079
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,160
media and like, people are 
blaming the tech industry, but 

1080
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,960
in my opinion, it's actually 
comes back to the parents. 

1081
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,160
You know, we need to take 
ownership of how screens are 

1082
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,320
being used in our household. 
You know, you're literally the 

1083
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,320
gatekeeper to your household. 
So if you're blaming the tech 

1084
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,680
industry for your child having 
issues because they're on 

1085
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,360
devices, like, I just think 
that's a bit backwards. 

1086
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,600
But yeah, we don't, my children 
don't go on devices. 

1087
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,840
The only time they're on devices
is if we're on an airplane, and 

1088
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,760
otherwise we'll have. 
Time we do it too. 

1089
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,160
A movie night like a long road 
trip. 

1090
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,440
Yeah, we'll have a movie night, 
OK. 

1091
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,160
Movies are so different because 
like you're all watching the 

1092
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,520
same thing and you're 
experiencing it together versus 

1093
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,400
the device. 
It really puts you, puts a wall 

1094
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,520
up, it puts you in your own 
world. 

1095
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,400
Right and we do do like audio 
books is one of our favorite 

1096
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,320
things. 
So sometimes when the boys are 

1097
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,520
doing chores, we'll throw on an 
audio book and especially my 7 

1098
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,320
year old really likes that 
because he's usually resistant 

1099
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,640
to doing chores. 
And then, yeah, I think I'll 

1100
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,880
probably hold off as long as 
possible. 

1101
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,320
And then we'll walk through it 
with them and try to equip them 

1102
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:33,800
to say no to pornography and not
be an addict to the device, so 

1103
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,160
to say, and not allow the device
to rule their life. 

1104
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,680
And yeah, I've been having some 
really insightful conversations 

1105
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,440
around this. 
And just the dopamine effect and

1106
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,200
addiction levels that children 
are starting so young now is 

1107
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,560
really alarming. 
And I think we're in a time of 

1108
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,480
air as a society and we're going
to look back on this time and 

1109
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,400
think like, wow, we really 
jacked things up. 

1110
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,080
So I think just like really 
diving deep on this topic as 

1111
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,920
parents is super important. 
And just because all their 

1112
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,080
friends are doing it doesn't 
mean you have to do it too. 

1113
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,680
Like to me that's the stupidest 
way to parent is just just do 

1114
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,880
what everyone else is doing. 
Like not necessarily. 

1115
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,520
Like you literally need to be 
the gatekeeper of your own home 

1116
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:26,840
and choose your family's life. 
I want my kids to grow up being 

1117
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,200
OK with not doing what everyone 
else is doing, and I think that 

1118
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,840
we can do that now with like 
foods, with technology, just get

1119
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,440
them really comfortable with 
like living life in a different 

1120
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,720
way that goes against. 
The brain, right? 

1121
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,200
And it's like a lot of my life 
too, like, you know, we are 

1122
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,640
using technology a lot. 
And so I talk about this with my

1123
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,960
eldest son in particular. 
I'm like, this is what we're up 

1124
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,440
to and I try to explain to him. 
So he knows that, you know, a 

1125
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,680
lot of what we're doing has a 
purpose and we're creating, not 

1126
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,920
consuming with most of what we 
do. 

1127
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:04,240
And so I think like I loved that
was a quote I heard somewhere 

1128
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,360
along the way is like create 
more than you're consuming. 

1129
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,680
And so trying to create a 
household that is doing just 

1130
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,800
that, like we're creating more 
than we're consuming, unless 

1131
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,440
it's book reading, because we do
consume quite a bit when we're 

1132
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,680
we're reading. 
I heard your husband say 

1133
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,800
casually mentioned in a podcast 
episode that you guys try to be 

1134
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,520
intentional, intentional about 
calling your children children 

1135
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,680
and not kids. 
And I have like a guess on kind 

1136
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,560
of the intentionality behind 
that. 

1137
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,560
But can you explain why you've 
made that decision? 

1138
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,080
I mean for me it's actually not 
that deep. 

1139
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,520
It's more of just like kids is a
nickname for It's like baby 

1140
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,000
goats. 
Oh, no way. 

1141
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,680
Like a kid is a baby goat and I 
don't know how it made it so way

1142
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,280
over it's to humans, but like, I
don't know, we just call our 

1143
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,320
children children like that's. 
So funny, I didn't think I was 

1144
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,960
thinking that's just. 
It was more like. 

1145
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,800
Reference or something for them 
like. 

1146
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,040
It's literally just like our own
little like pet peeve thing. 

1147
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,520
I tried to mostly say children 
in this episode but I feel like 

1148
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,760
kids slipped out a few. 
Times you're fine. 

1149
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,920
I'm not offended at all. 
It's literally just our little 

1150
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,800
like pet peeve thing. 
I don't know why we just call 

1151
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,360
them children, not kids even 
though like it's fine. 

1152
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,800
I try like whenever I say 
children I I feel like it sounds

1153
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,520
so formal to me. 
Like it? 

1154
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,760
It's weird how our language 
truly is changing and you look 

1155
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,480
at language as a whole and you 
know, I'm certainly not a 

1156
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,360
language expert, but now that 
I'm homeschooling my children, 

1157
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,040
I'm like, Oh my gosh, my example
of language is not great. 

1158
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,800
There's like such better 
language out there. 

1159
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,760
Like I just the way I 
communicate is a very simplistic

1160
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:58,040
and our society at large, like 
the way our language is slowly 

1161
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,240
getting Dumber and Dumber. 
Like, I don't know, I just. 

1162
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,120
I think the way you communicate 
is really unique and special 

1163
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,360
because you can't not be 
authentic. 

1164
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,040
Like you're such an authentic 
person that you say what you 

1165
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,280
mean and you're not like 
thinking like, how is this going

1166
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,160
to be perceived? 
Like you can just tell that 

1167
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,520
you're just yourself and that's 
like super rare and awesome. 

1168
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,280
I mean, I really think honesty 
is a lot lost our in our 

1169
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:30,320
society. 
And I think, you know, a lot of 

1170
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,560
how I live my life, it comes 
from the Bible. 

1171
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,880
Like, you know, for example, 
thou shall not lie like that is 

1172
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:42,720
a commandment because when you 
lie, it destroys your life and 

1173
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,360
it destroys that connection with
the people around you. 

1174
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,440
And so trying to live as honest 
as I can, I think it is really 

1175
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,640
important. 
Granted, I know there's 

1176
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,560
sometimes when you kind of like,
let's just like not go there 

1177
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,480
when you have some confrontation
with someone because like 

1178
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,320
there's likely just no working 
through it, but I don't know. 

1179
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,200
I think there can be wisdom in 
that too sometimes. 

1180
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,360
Sometimes and granted, like my 
sister-in-law sent me a Bible 

1181
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,480
verse recently and it was like 
with your brother, like work 

1182
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,960
out, you know, try to work 
through your conflict to the 

1183
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,880
best that you can. 
You know, I forget the exact 

1184
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,320
verse. 
I don't have that memorized. 

1185
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,760
But yeah, I mean, like, I think 
lying can come in different 

1186
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,720
forms. 
And sometimes it's something 

1187
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,840
that kind of creeps into our 
life over time and we slowly 

1188
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,480
start to just accept it as 
truth, even though it's not 

1189
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,320
necessarily truth. 
And a lot of society wants to 

1190
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,320
live by, like, my truth versus 
like, having some basic truths, 

1191
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,400
for example. 
Let's get really nitty gritty 

1192
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,600
here with some intense stuff 
like pedophilia for example. 

1193
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Much of society is starting to 
accept it as normal and it's 

1194
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,200
actually really not good. 
And that should not be accepted 

1195
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:02,200
as good and true and right. 
You know, I recently saw a post 

1196
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:07,680
on Instagram that says 200,000 
people saw this and it was an 

1197
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,800
older fellow engaging with a 
younger girl. 

1198
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,680
She was 16, he was 26. 
Nobody mentioned pedophilia in 

1199
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,480
the entire comment section. 
And I'm like, how is society at 

1200
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,160
large normalizing something that
is not OK? 

1201
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:29,480
And it's truly because we're 
losing truth and honesty and 

1202
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,480
nobody wants to step on anyone's
toes now. 

1203
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,480
Now because we just don't want 
to have conflict. 

1204
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,960
We're conflict adverse. 
And so, yeah, I've just found in

1205
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,440
my life, a lot of the bigger 
pains come from not being honest

1206
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,360
and not being truthful and not 
being willing to work through, 

1207
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,240
you know, some of the 
challenges. 

1208
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,720
And I'm realizing that's not 
working. 

1209
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:58,960
And yeah, I mean I am more 
honest I would say, but like I 

1210
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,320
am also choosing to be more 
honest because I don't see the 

1211
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,320
opposite approach working. 
Yeah. 

1212
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,440
And it's, it's helping others 
when you can be honest and 

1213
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,720
vulnerable. 
But going back to what you said 

1214
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,880
about like when everyone can 
define what their own truth is, 

1215
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,760
that could that can lead to such
a dangerous place in society. 

1216
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,760
Like, rather than acknowledging 
that there is absolute truth. 

1217
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,319
And for me personally, I don't 
want to have to figure that out 

1218
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,640
in every situation. 
I would rather like trust in 

1219
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,000
what God says is true, Yeah. 
There's just kind of no limit, 

1220
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,920
no end to what is right or 
wrong, no clear answer to that 

1221
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,720
when everyone is defining that 
for themselves. 

1222
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,160
Right. 
And and that's the thing too is 

1223
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:46,479
like, I think a lot of society 
at large too. 

1224
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,880
You know, I had a conversation 
recently where we were talking 

1225
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,880
about the lack of moral 
foundation and having a moral 

1226
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,520
foundation as a society at large
kind of keeps everyone in check.

1227
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,080
It like curbs where we're going.
But we are losing so much of 

1228
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:09,080
that that we can't necessarily 
pinpoint why are things so 

1229
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,680
messed up? 
Like why is there so many issues

1230
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,920
in this, this and this? 
And it's because of this like 

1231
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:21,160
watering down of moral truth and
that foundation that we so 

1232
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,920
desperately need. 
And yet I believe that even with

1233
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,479
that in my life, I still need 
God to, like, hold me tight and 

1234
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,120
carry me through, like my 
mistakes along the way or the 

1235
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,160
mistakes of my neighbor, so to 
say. 

1236
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:41,439
And so, yeah, I just, we have to
fight for truth. 

1237
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,000
We have to fight for what is 
good and right. 

1238
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,640
And maybe that's simply by the 
way you raise your children. 

1239
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,120
You don't have to be like out 
there on the streets, like 

1240
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,040
trying to fight it all, so to 
say. 

1241
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:56,280
But maybe it's just the way you 
do it in your own home. 

1242
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,640
And, you know, I don't think 
it's healthy to also like be so 

1243
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,320
politically engaged all the time
and like, seeing all the issues 

1244
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,760
of the world constantly is like,
no one can really handle that 

1245
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,640
healthily. 
And so that's why I like, let's 

1246
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,680
come back to like, let's not 
spend so much time on social 

1247
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,520
media. 
Like that in itself could help 

1248
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,560
our health so much. 
Or maybe it looks like training 

1249
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,360
your algorithm to send you 
health content and like comedy 

1250
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:27,920
stuff that makes you laugh and 
being like just in tune, like 

1251
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,560
with what you're consuming so 
that you can like not be so 

1252
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,280
stressed out all the time and. 
I love comedy. 

1253
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,880
I feel like the older I get the 
more I just want to laugh and 

1254
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,320
like my husband and I've gone to
a few comedy shows lately. 

1255
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,840
We we saw Jerry Seinfeld. 
Was that it was. 

1256
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,240
So good like, and he's, he's 
getting up there in age now, but

1257
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,120
he was amazing. 
And then we saw John Crist. 

1258
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,760
A couple months ago too it. 
Was so fun, you would love him. 

1259
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,520
Wow, I need to find these. 
People, I'll send you some of 

1260
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,200
his stuff. 
OK Well I wanna close out with a

1261
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,080
fun rapid fire. 
OK, wait, before we get out too,

1262
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,600
can I just say primarily Pure's 
deodorant? 

1263
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,440
It's so amazing. 
Thank you. 

1264
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:11,120
I feel like the deodorant 
industry blew it so hard at the 

1265
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,480
start of natural deodorant. 
Like when we go back like 15 

1266
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:17,760
years to Tom's deodorant, that 
was the worst that did not work 

1267
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,360
at. 
All I mean, that's why, that's 

1268
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,360
literally why I was like, OK, I 
need to figure this out on my 

1269
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,720
own because Tom's didn't do it, 
right? 

1270
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,440
And it's possible. 
I know it's possible because 

1271
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:29,520
I've been using just baking soda
and coconut oil. 

1272
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,760
And that worked. 
Yeah. 

1273
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,600
But I wanted my husband to do 
it. 

1274
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,600
And he wasn't, didn't want to 
like rub stuff on his arm. 

1275
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,920
So I was like, I've got to 
figure out how to do it. 

1276
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:42,880
And I spent so much time in my 
kitchen creating almost 200 

1277
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,120
different versions. 
Well, I was just kind of on this

1278
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,160
passion project. 
Yeah, of course I wanted him to 

1279
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,880
use it, but I just, I needed to 
figure this out and finally had 

1280
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,640
a version that I was happy with.
Yeah, but anyway, I've been 

1281
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,800
using that, you know, y'all's 
deodorant for like 10 years now 

1282
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,640
or I don't know. 
How long really have you guys 

1283
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,920
been around that? 
Yeah, I feel like from very 

1284
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,920
early on, like, yeah, we just 
always loved your deodorant in 

1285
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,920
February. 
I even like got a couple other 

1286
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,760
deodorants along the way. 
Like in a pinch, you know, you 

1287
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,720
run out of deodorant and you go 
to the grocery store to see what

1288
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,880
you can find and they didn't 
work as good. 

1289
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,680
So I always feel so bad, though.
I'm like, how many people tried 

1290
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,240
Tom's deodorant deodorant and 
then never went back into 

1291
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,440
natural deodorant because 
they're like, there's no way. 

1292
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:30,800
And so now there's a way people,
there's good deodorant out 

1293
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,240
there. 
Family Feud deodorant. 

1294
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,160
It's amazing. 
Well, thank you so much. 

1295
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,800
I love that. 
I appreciate you saying that. 

1296
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,760
OK, What is the most strange 
thing that you have ever done in

1297
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:46,040
the name of health? 
I mean, I think for most of 

1298
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,760
society like the enema scene is 
a little too much. 

1299
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,200
So do you. 
Coffee enemas. 

1300
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,840
Yeah, we've been doing like a 
special type of coffee enema. 

1301
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,560
My husband and I even got my 
husband into it. 

1302
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,200
How cool is that? 
That's rare. 

1303
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,920
He's like he's deep on the 
health journey and he's doing 

1304
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:03,520
coffee enemas. 
I. 

1305
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,720
Think he like, you know, a lot 
of mornings he'll wake up not 

1306
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,880
feeling amazing. 
And I think he has some like 

1307
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,520
adrenal fatigue stuff going on. 
And so we're trying to problem 

1308
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,040
solve, you know? 
Have you done a few colonic? 

1309
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,400
I actually, well we just did a 
big old parasite cleanse which 

1310
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,160
was super fun. 
And so we were doing, we did 2 

1311
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,560
enemas a day, we were doing 1 
coffee and one ozone. 

1312
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:26,920
Ozone. 
Water. 

1313
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,920
Amazing. 
Like I felt so good. 

1314
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:30,920
Like that's. 
So funny. 

1315
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,640
I was literally, I was showing 
my daughter these questions. 

1316
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:34,720
I was like, here's the rapid 
fire. 

1317
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,400
So I was like, what do you think
she's going to say for the 

1318
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,480
strangest health thing? 
Yeah, she was. 

1319
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:42,000
She said coffee enemas and 
ozone. 

1320
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,800
I was like, I don't think she's 
doing ozone. 

1321
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,920
I don't know if. 
She's got, well, that's funny, 

1322
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,200
Someone just gave us a ozone 
machine. 

1323
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,760
I'm like, OK, fine, we got to 
use it. 

1324
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,480
Like stoked. 
We got this because they were 

1325
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:55,040
moving a while and they got rid.
Of a generator too, but I feel 

1326
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,760
like that's super rare. 
Yeah, so we got that. 

1327
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,760
I actually feel like I need to 
be using it more, like drinking 

1328
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,280
ozone water or something. 
But yeah, so we've been doing 

1329
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,080
that and the parasite cleanse 
was really interesting. 

1330
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,800
I've been wanting to do one for 
like 5 plus years, but I kept 

1331
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,160
having babies. 
So I hadn't been. 

1332
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,920
I didn't do it until finally I 
caved and I was like, I have to 

1333
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,520
do it now. 
Which one did you do? 

1334
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,280
I did what was it the sanctuary 
Wellness? 

1335
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,520
OK, it was, you know, for 
example, it was all plant based,

1336
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,440
which I'm not big on that, but I
just cheated a little and did 

1337
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,560
the mother load of bone broth 
throughout it because I wanted 

1338
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,560
to make sure I was still getting
protein. 

1339
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,720
And wow, a lot came out I didn't
like I'm not really good at 

1340
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,760
picking out the parasites, but I
had something called what was it

1341
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,160
a roundworm or it was like AI 
forget the name. 

1342
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,040
It's like a roundworm, but it's 
not an actual parasite, but it's

1343
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,440
like a toxic build up and they 
become these like hard long worm

1344
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:01,480
like wow, toxic. 
It's filled with all different 

1345
01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:04,120
types of toxins and they're just
sitting in your gut. 

1346
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:09,440
I think I lost like 5 lbs of gut
matter wow in that cleanse. 

1347
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,080
So now I think I'm going to do 
it like at least once a year. 

1348
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:18,800
Do you have a guilty pleasure? 
I would say like Newman's Oreos,

1349
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:20,600
Yeah, Yeah. 
I mean, that's like. 

1350
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,800
Simple mills ones. 
Oh, are they? 

1351
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,960
I don't know if we have, maybe 
we have. 

1352
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,360
They're like gluten free coconut
sugar. 

1353
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,640
Are they like seed oil free? 
Because the Newman's have seed 

1354
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,200
oils in them and we'll still eat
them every now and then. 

1355
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,880
I've got I can't remember. 
Some simple mills stuff does 

1356
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,400
have sunflower oil, but I feel 
like these ones might not not. 

1357
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,920
I'm not positive though. 
Yeah, I feel like a lot of my 

1358
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,360
guilty pleasures are like ice 
cream before bedtime. 

1359
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,840
But I don't even think it's that
bad actually, because when I 

1360
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,840
went through that season of 
adrenal fatigue and kind of like

1361
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,880
running on cortisol, one of the 
things that helped me was eating

1362
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,760
a bedtime snack. 
So I started having like cheese 

1363
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:07,280
and fruit or milk and honey or 
ice cream and like some, some 

1364
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:11,880
sort of protein and that helped 
me start sleeping better and not

1365
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,000
like waking up wide awake at two
or three in the morning. 

1366
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,000
And so, you know, that's 
something that's not celebrated 

1367
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,560
like eating right before 
bedtime. 

1368
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,720
But that literally helps change 
my reality from going from like 

1369
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,240
waking up wide awake at two or 
three in the morning for an hour

1370
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,480
or two to like being able to 
sleep through that window. 

1371
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:34,480
I might, like, wrestle a little,
but yeah, you know, that's why I

1372
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:37,880
said like, sometimes you have to
do what isn't actually popular. 

1373
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,920
So eating right before you go to
bed is super unpopular. 

1374
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,960
But that helped me in that 
season where I was like super 

1375
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,000
fried and my adrenals were 
thrashed. 

1376
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,720
And that came from the pro 
metabolic community. 

1377
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,760
And some of the advice I'd 
received, like I did like a live

1378
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:56,160
blood analysis and a hair 
mineral test and just kind of 

1379
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,640
looked in on things. 
And there is just a lot going on

1380
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,960
in my gut too. 
But slow and pull, Fast forward.

1381
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:07,000
We're slowly cleaning things up.
What is 1 trending health craze 

1382
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,840
that you're not buying into? 
I don't know. 

1383
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,000
I mean, I'm not a big fan of 
intermittent fasting, but I 

1384
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,880
liked your statement of like a 
little bit here and there once 

1385
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,440
in a while. 
But there's a lot like the no 

1386
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:26,920
salt, the no fat, the vegan. 
There's no fat still trending. 

1387
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,240
I think some people maybe still 
fall for it, but I think the 

1388
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,480
vegan for sure not into the 
vegan movement, plant based 

1389
01:17:35,480 --> 01:17:37,200
movement. 
Yeah, agreed. 

1390
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,960
What's your morning drink of 
choice? 

1391
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:47,560
Oh well, this morning I had 
lemongrass tea with a little 

1392
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,880
lemon and honey. 
It's. 

1393
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,480
Lemongrass here on the island, 
right? 

1394
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,400
Yeah, you can find it. 
We grow it in our yard and we 

1395
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,280
make it all the time. 
It's one of my favorite. 

1396
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,840
If I could bring this to market,
I feel like everyone would fall 

1397
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,560
in love with it. 
Yeah, but I just like a good 

1398
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,120
espresso with coconut milk, Adam
and I like to make like a 

1399
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,000
coconut milk cappuccino. 
I'd say orange juice is my 

1400
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,800
favorite breakfast drink, 
though. 

1401
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,120
OK, but coffee is like a given. 
Yeah. 

1402
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,680
You know, we're having that 
regardless. 

1403
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,920
Yeah, but if I can have fresh 
squeezed orange juice, I. 

1404
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,600
Love fresh squeezed orange 
juice? 

1405
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,720
It's the best. 
What's your go to healthy snack?

1406
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:30,000
Oh I really love jello. 
Like as a mom, I have jello in 

1407
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,440
my fridge all the time. 
Jello or do you? 

1408
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:34,280
No, I make like jello from 
gelatin. 

1409
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,160
OK, OK. 
I was going to say that doesn't 

1410
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,760
fit. 
Yeah, everything that we're 

1411
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:42,280
talking about, like I'll get 
mango juice, fresh lime juice 

1412
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,960
and a pinch of sea salt or an 
electrolyte, and then I mix that

1413
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,160
with the gelatin and make jello 
in our fridge. 

1414
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,600
So I have that all the time so. 
So smart. 

1415
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,680
So you put it into like a bowl 
or something? 

1416
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,280
In a pan and then you slice it 
up. 

1417
01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:57,880
It's literally like the old 
fashioned jello but like a 

1418
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,200
better version, no? 
Gummies and we'll like pour it 

1419
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,200
into silicone molds and then 
have like gelatin based gummies,

1420
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,840
but I've never thought of just 
making that as like. 

1421
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,560
I just have a span of it, yeah. 
And it's just like, I think as a

1422
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,520
mom, if you're the type to 
forget to eat, then having 

1423
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,840
something like jello is such a 
good food and it's not that 

1424
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,920
expensive. 
Like you just have juice and 

1425
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,720
gelatin. 
It's actually really easy. 

1426
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,080
To yeah, it's super easy. 
So I almost always have that in 

1427
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,760
my fridge at all times. 
And then the children can grab 

1428
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,160
it too. 
And it's a good solid snack as 

1429
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,360
far as it has protein and carbs.
Yeah. 

1430
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,200
And yeah, so that's kind of my 
good one. 

1431
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,320
Snack What's your favorite way 
to reset in 10 minutes or less? 

1432
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:47,040
I think going for a walk, 
jumping in the sauna or laying 

1433
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:51,480
down and listening to the Bible 
with my vagus nerve stimulator. 

1434
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,040
Love it. 
Bethany, thank you so much for 

1435
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,280
being here. 
Last thing, I know you have a 

1436
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,560
big heart for encouraging young 
girls. 

1437
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,080
There are any young girls that 
are maybe listening today 

1438
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,120
alongside their moms? 
What advice or encouragement 

1439
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:07,840
would you leave them with? 
Oh my goodness. 

1440
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,560
I would just say always be 
teachable. 

1441
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,440
Like I think good if you're 
willing to learn and grow and 

1442
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:16,680
push yourself. 
And also, like, listen to what 

1443
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,760
your mom says because it's 
likely she has some years of 

1444
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,120
wisdom under her belt. 
I still go to my mom to this 

1445
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,200
day. 
And so just knowing that my mom 

1446
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,680
is there to serve and protect me
and not like, you know, make my 

1447
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,400
life miserable is so important. 
And just being teachable 

1448
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,160
continually. 
And now that you don't need 

1449
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,160
easy, you just need possible. 
So good. 

1450
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,560
Thank you so much. 
Yes. 

1451
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,680
My pleasure. 
Thank you so much for tuning in.

1452
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,280
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1453
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,920
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