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Welcome to Grounded Wellness. 
I'm your host Bethany McDaniel, 

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founder of Primarily Pure, mom 
of Three, and biohacking 

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enthusiast. 
We created this podcast to bring

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you practical advice to live a 
more vibrant and intentional 

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life rooted in long lasting 
health. 

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We record right here on our 
regenerative farm, grounded with

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our feet in the soil, exploring 
bold truths, overlooked wisdom, 

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and holistic tools that support 
true well-being. 

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These conversations will 
challenge everything you know 

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about health and Wellness. 
I am so excited for today's 

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conversation. 
It's one that many of you guys 

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have been asking for, and it 
could not be more perfect timing

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because June is Acne Awareness 
Month. 

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Today's guest, Maria Marlowe, is
someone who I deeply respect. 

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She is a certified holistic 
nutritionist and author, a 

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podcast host, and someone who 
truly gets the emotional toll 

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that skin struggles can have 
because she has lived it. 

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After years of trying every 
conventional acne treatment out 

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there with little to no success,
something I can relate to, Maria

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discovered something that 
changed her life. 

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The healing power of food. 
This conversation is filled with

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practical tips on how to heal 
your skin from within the 

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grocery store, mistakes making 
it worse, and why true beauty 

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has nothing to do with 
injectables. 

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Let's dig in. 
Maria, welcome to Grounded 

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Wellness. 
I'm so excited to have you here 

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to talk all things acne and 
nutrition. 

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But I want to get started on a 
personal note because you became

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a mother about 10 months ago. 
How has Mother had been for you?

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It's been a roller coaster with 
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It's a lot of like movement all 
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been a fun journey, fun roller 
coaster. 

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My gosh, I fully get that. 
We were just talking about being

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boy moms before the show. 
It's it's wild. 

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And you had a home birth. 
How was that experience for you?

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That was amazing. 
So even before I got pregnant, I

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was very confident and felt like
I wanted to have a home birth 

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for me. 
I felt like that would be the 

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most natural way to do it. 
And yeah, luckily it all worked 

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out and I was a seven hour, 7 
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I spent most of, I actually 
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time between the shower and the 
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birth pool. 
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I, I, I will say that like it's 
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at home birth, like it still 
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It was the most it, it was the 
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my life. 
For sure I would. 

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Agree with that, personally. 
Yeah, I did home births as well.

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Yeah, and loved it. 
Amazing experience. 

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I mean, I did it three times. 
So I kept, you know, coming back

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for more. 
But it was not like those 

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peaceful videos that you see 
online of, like home births 

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where they're singing or like, 
humming gently. 

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Like it was still very intense 
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It was very raw and it was very 
like I say, it was like very 

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fast and furious and definitely 
not for the faint of heart. 

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Like I thought my husband might 
faint, you know, everything 

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going on. 
He didn't, I believe, but it's 

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it's intense. 
And I had, I not prepared myself

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for it and really understood 
physiological birth and what was

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going to happen when. 
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point a transition where you're 
just like, I can't do it 

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anymore, Like I want to give up.
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to come and knowing I was going 
to experience that, I was able 

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to say, Oh, OK, I'm in 
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I know it's not much longer and,
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its thing. 
I had learned about the fetal 

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ejection reflex. 
You know what this is that no. 

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OK, so I whenever I am 
interested in something, I do 

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extensive research, as you'll 
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all that stuff. 
So with birth, I mean, I did 

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like a super deep dive and I 
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could possibly learn. 
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The same way. 
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have something called the fetal 
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the body is ready to give birth,
it literally pushes the baby 

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out. 
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shows, right, they're always 
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push, push. 
And apparently you don't have to

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actually push. 
Your body will push it out. 

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So I said, wow, this is a, a 
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Why have I never heard of this 
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Nobody's really talking about 
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I was like, I want to experience
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And the idea is if you just wait
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open and push it out. 
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happened. 
So I did not physically push my 

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body, just. 
Took over and never. 

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Pushed. 
No, like it made the intentional

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decision like I'm going to. 
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No, not at all. 
Interesting. 

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So yeah, there's something with.
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like you get to 10 centimeters, 
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like start pushing basically. 
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a little bit more than 10 
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So if you wait a little bit 
longer, that's when it kicks in.

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But it also, it will really only
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you're calm and you don't have 
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like that. 
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game, but it's it works. 
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Yeah. 
And you also had a viral reel 

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about eating dates in the last 
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pregnancy and how that can speed
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Is this something you tested 
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Yes, it is. 
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hours, which is very short for a
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super short because I believe 
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something like that for a first 
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So I can't say for sure if it 
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say that it wasn't. 
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It was a very, it was a very 
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But anyway, the, the how I 
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half my time in Dubai and one of
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there it is customary that 
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before giving birth because it's
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And, and so I was like, OK, let 
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Let me look into it. 
There are actually a few studies

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that have looked at it and, and 
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it's five to seven dates in the 
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birth everyday. 
Yeah, it's Ajwa dates. 

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So they're the smaller dates. 
They're not like the big medjool

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dates that we usually got. 
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it has been shown to reduce 
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intervention and basically speed
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Wow. 
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OK, if I have a fourth I'm gonna
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That a twat I. 
Mean what's the downside like? 

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Exactly, there's no downside, 
although I will say I love dates

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but I was sick of dates at the 
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Of smoothies, yeah, OK. 
You can put them anyway in any 

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recipe you want. 
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yeah, I had great birth 
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I, I, I push. 
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that. 
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OK, don't say should you're 
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Cool. 
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worked out, Yeah. 
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was extremely challenging, 
especially like so that last 

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phase of like pushing the baby 
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helped. 
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It's worth a try I think. 
You might as well, and you'll 

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have something to compare it to.
I had nothing to compare it to, 

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so I don't. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, yeah, the female body goes
through so many changes and our 

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skin all throughout pregnancy. 
What changes did you experience 

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personally and how did you 
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or with supplements throughout 
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So one thing that I was aware of
and that I wanted to make sure I

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prevented, well, two things 
would be acne and stretch marks,

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which are quite common during 
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So with acne, I think the three 
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prevent me from getting any 
breakouts would be that I kept 

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my blood sugar stable, which is 
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Sometimes it's hard, especially 
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you're maybe craving more 
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carbohydrate foods. 
I get it's tough, but if you can

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try and, you know, push through 
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meal as you can and include your
fiber, include your protein, 

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include your healthy fats. 
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balanced is is really important.
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regularity. 
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pregnancy, sometimes women can 
become constipated, especially 

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for example, if you're taking 
the iron supplement that can 

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also cause Constipation. 
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the weight, like a lot of fiber,
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cause Constipation. 
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really helpful because we know 
that there is a link between 

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Constipation and acne. 
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just keeping it as nutrient 
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need to make sure that we're 
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vitamins and minerals, not just 
for a baby, but also for a skin.

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So those three things helped. 
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marks, I'm not immune to stretch
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I, I definitely got stretch 
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but I knowing everything that I 
know now, I know that everything

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that we eat is the building 
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So I wanted to support the 
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skin and, and try to prevent 
stretch marks if I could. 

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So was all about the protein, 
having a lot of bone broth, 

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having a lot of collagen to 
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stretch and grow and then go 
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And luckily it worked, so no 
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What about topically? 
Did you do anything topically to

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support your growing belly 
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Yes. 
So I did put all sorts of creams

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and lotions and potions on 
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I tried a bunch of different 
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I think I've used. 
Let me see. 

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I use mango butter. 
Something with mango butter. 

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I used black cumin seed oil and 
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that I used which I can't 
remember, but I was just 

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slathering things on there. 
But I will say there got, I got 

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to a point where I was like, I 
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regularly, I'll be honest. 
Yeah, yeah, I feel like it felt 

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so good for. 
That's one thing I really kept 

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up with. 
And I used our baby bomb. 

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OK, I'll send it to you. 
Yeah. 

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For your next baby. 
Don't tell my husband that he's 

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gonna try and rush it. 
But it has tallow and it has 

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marshmallow root infused into 
the extra virgin olive oil, 

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which is really good to support 
like skin elasticity. 

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And then I did all the same 
stuff as you, like the bone 

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broth and collagen and all of 
those things and didn't have any

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issues. 
It makes it makes a big 

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difference. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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What about postpartum? 
What are some issues that can 

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arise postpartum and how can 
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through that phase? 
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So I think, you know, postpartum
we first of all our healing and 

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our body, we're healing from the
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And then, you know, our body is 
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and so we need actually more 
nutrients and more calories even

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postpartum than we do before. 
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breastfeeding, if you're 
breastfeeding, then you know, 

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you really need to make sure 
that you're eating a very 

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nutrient dense diet because if 
you're not, whatever you're, 

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you're having, the nutrients are
going to the baby and you are 

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going to end up really depleted.
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you know, postpartum depression 
come in and, you know, other 

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sorts of imbalances can creep 
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So it's really important that 
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food. 
So what I did, in certain 

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cultures, it is customary for a 
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kind of resting and being taken 
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and friends. 
So I was like, listen, guys, you

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guys are taking care of me. 
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you're cooking for me. 
You know, my husband, OK, you're

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doing this. 
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mother in laws, everyone was 
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really important to me that I 
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So I actually printed out a 
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recipes that were really rich in
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know, fiber, healthy fats, all 
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And I printed it out and I was 
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these things. 
Wow, that's so great. 

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And I think that a lot of women 
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Like we focus so much on 
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forget to kind of like support 
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Yes. 
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about Gray hairs as well. 
Yes. 

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breastfeeding and you're not 
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enough minerals in your diet and
there's other factors as well. 

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But if we are lacking certain 
minerals that can actually cause

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premature graying of the hair. 
So it is really important. 

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Like I do have some friends who 
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birth, I feel like I have more 
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It's like, OK, because you're 
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minerals at that point because 
the body is just using up so, so

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much of it. 
We really need, it's kind of 

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hard to get it solely from the 
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Like at some point you probably 
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really support your body. 
What do you like for a mineral 

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supplement? 
What would you recommend so for 

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minerals? 
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do like taking electrolytes. 
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important with hydration. 
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the time was this ginger 
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ginger lemon electrolytes. 
It's really delicious. 

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So I drank that all throughout 
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a certain deficiency, then I 
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based on what the deficiency is.
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to to prevent it? 
Sounds like getting ahead of the

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game in terms of like taking the
minerals. 

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Yeah. 
And eating nutrient dense foods.

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Once the Gray hairs appear, is 
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to reverse that? 
Yes, OK. 

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So first of all, seaweed I would
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to kind of get minerals. 
Like just the seaweed snacks. 

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Yeah, so there's all different 
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So like sea snacks are one like 
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are, but things like dulls, 
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different types of seaweed and 
they all have slightly different

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minerals in them and and amounts
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So eating them regularly. 
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much every actually every single
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was this Korean postpartum soup,
which is basically beef and 

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seaweed. 
And I would, I would have that 

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every single day. 
And I feel like that really 

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helped me with my energy and 
especially because you're not 

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sleeping at that time, but I 
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because I was, I was just 
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So I would say seaweed is my 
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minerals. 
Nice. 

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OK. 
Now in terms of yes, if your 

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hair has started prematurely 
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mineral deficiency or heavy 
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possibility. 
Which deplete your body of 

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minerals. 
Of minerals, yeah. 

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So that's kind of the the, the 
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When we have higher heavy 
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know, absorption and utilization
of minerals. 

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So you kind of have like a 
double edged sword there, I 

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guess. 
And So what we want to do is we 

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want to get rid of the heavy, 
heavy metals and also increase 

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the minerals. 
And if, if that is the cause of 

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the Gray hair, then yes, it's 
very possible to, to, to reverse

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it. 
And I've done it like I've been 

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doing it for years. 
So I've had over a dozen, dozens

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of of, you know, hair start to 
turn back. 

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You can see like the top is 
white and then the bottom is my 

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natural color. 
Interesting. 

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I didn't know that was possible.
Yeah, I've heard also PRP 

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injections in the scalp can help
to reverse Grays. 

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I haven't tried it personally. 
Yeah. 

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That I'm not I'm not sure it's 
definitely possible. 

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I mean, another thing that's 
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circulation to the area because 
first of all, we're all like 

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hunched over on our phones all 
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And then this, you know, our 
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back, they all get tight and 
that can start to block blood 

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flow. 
And if we're not getting good 

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blood flow to the scalp, that 
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oxygen and the nutrients there. 
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So for me, I actually noticed 
when I would press over here on 

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top of my ear on this side, 
because in interestingly, I only

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had Gray hair in like one small 
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on the right side. 
And when I was pressing, I said,

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oh wow, I have like a knot here 
in my head. 

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And so using acupuncture and 
scalp massage, I was able to 

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kind of break that up and get 
rid of it. 

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And I believe that also helped 
with circulation and getting 

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those nutrients where they need 
it to be. 

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Yeah, that makes sense. 
I every night, like after I take

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it if my hair's up or whatever, 
like I'll, I will always just 

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spend time like massaging my 
scalp and it feels so good. 

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Yeah. 
And I just think like, I don't 

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know that most people do that, 
but it feels so like once you 

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start doing it, you just become 
like addicted to the feeling and

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you like can't not just get in 
there and like massage the heck 

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out of your scalp. 
It's so good, it's even good for

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hair growth and your hair, it 
looks nice and thick and 

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healthy. 
So a scalp massage has been 

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shown to increase hair growth 
and even increase hair 

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thickness. 
So it's definitely it works. 

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I also like doing Do you ever do
oil massage? 

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No, I don't because OK, it 
would. 

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I feel like it'd be so hard to 
wash out. 

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It is, yeah. 
It's very hard to wash the oil 

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out of my hair for whatever 
reason. 

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Also, you really have to give it
a few washes, and I do. 

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I wash basically with 
conditioner first and then I do 

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shampoo and I feel like that 
helps to get it out. 

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Really. 
Yeah, interesting. 

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But the scalp oil massage is is 
really nice. 

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I try to do that once a week, 
not every week, but as often as 

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I can. 
OK, maybe I'll try that 

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sometime. 
I feel like it's already hard 

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for me to, to get all of the oil
out of my hair when I wash it 

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cuz I wash it maybe every week 
and 1/2 or two weeks. 

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And so there's a lot of build up
in there. 

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But it's time I wash it and I 
have to do like two or three 

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rinses with shampoo to even like
get my hair clean without oil. 

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So I'm like if I put oil in my 
hair, but I have to do like 6 

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washes just to get this. 
I don't know, maybe it's worth 

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it. 
I'll give it well you. 

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Know what? 
If you're doing the massage, you

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might not need the oil. 
Because I will say, sometimes I 

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get out and I think my hair is 
clean and then I'll dry it and 

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I'm like, Nope, there's still 
oil. 

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Yeah, yeah, we have a lot of 
moms in our audience. 

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What would you say to any new 
moms who just had a baby? 

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They're in that first year. 
Maybe they're feeling 

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overwhelmed, trying to care for 
themselves and their baby. 

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How would you encourage them? 
I would say it gets better with 

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time, every month I feel like 
and just rest as much as 

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possible. 
And this is something that's 

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very hard for me because being 
from New York and being very go,

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go, go and always wanting to do 
things and feeling like if I'm 

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not doing something, I'm not 
being efficient or productive. 

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Becoming a mother has helped me 
realize that slowing down is 

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something and, and, and it's OK 
to slow down. 

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So I think just resting because 
your body is going through so 

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much, you're taking care of a 
baby, your body is healing. 

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If you're feeding the baby, it's
even more of an exertion on you 

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on top of that. 
So just rest, be gentle with 

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yourself and you know, don't 
look at social media where you 

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see these moms were like 2 weeks
postpartum and they're in a visa

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in a bikini or something. 
You know, that's not not real, 

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that's not common, right? 
Most women are at home also 

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struggling. 
Like motherhood is hard. 

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It's not easy, It's fun, it's 
rewarding, it's it's beautiful, 

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but it is also very hard. 
So I think I think more women 

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need to talk about the hard 
parts because we tend to only 

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see the happy parts on social 
media. 

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And we need to also know that, 
OK, it is really hard. 

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Breastfeeding is really, really 
hard. 

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It's very challenging and 
getting the baby to sleep and 

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all of these things are all 
really challenging. 

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And I think just knowing that 
you're not alone and giving 

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yourself grace. 
That's good advice, especially 

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with the first baby. 
We were talking about this 

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earlier. 
It's like your entire world 

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changes overnight, and you now 
have to adjust to that, and your

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body's depleted from pregnancy. 
And then if you're 

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breastfeeding, that's like, even
more of a strain on the body. 

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And it's all amazing and worth 
it and it's miraculous, but it's

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challenging. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Let's shift to the skin. 

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Tell us about your personal 
journey with acne. 

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So acne. 
I had really bad acne for four, 

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almost five years, and I tried 
just about everything to make it

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go away. 
So I started with the drugstore 

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topicals. 
Then I graduated to Proactiv. 

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Was very popular at the time. 
Infomercial. 

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Remember that all the kiosks in 
the mall. 

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And then then I went to the 
dermatologist and I was 

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prescribed antibiotics, worked 
for a little while, but then 

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once you go off the antibiotics,
the acne came back. 

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And even worse then I was 
prescribed birth control, I was 

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prescribed spironolactone. 
I was eventually prescribed 

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Accutane, which at that time it 
was a lot harder to get an 

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Accutane prescription. 
It was really the last resort 

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when you kind of exhausted 
everything else and it wasn't 

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working. 
So I'd kind of went up that 

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totem pole of, of acne 
medications. 

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Nothing was working over the 
course of almost five years. 

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And I remember finally getting 
that prescription. 

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I remember filling the 
prescription, picking up the bag

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from the pharmacy and, you know,
staple to the front, there's 

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that little sheet of paper with 
the side effects. 

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And one of the side effects was 
severe depression that could 

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lead to suicide. 
And I was like. 

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What? 
Like, that is insane. 

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And I was already feeling quite 
depressed about my skin because 

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I had internalized that there 
was something wrong with me 

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because I was doing everything I
was supposed to do, whether it 

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was what my dermatologist told 
me or all the magazines at the 

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time told me that I was supposed
to be doing to clear my skin. 

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And my skin wasn't clearing. 
So I was like, there obviously 

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must be something wrong with me.
And I, I saw that side effect 

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and I was like, you know what? 
Nothing else has worked. 

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I'm not willing to take this 
risk with this side effect. 

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I'm not going to take it. 
And at that point, I kind of was

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just relegated to the fact that 
I was cursed. 

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I had bad luck, I had bad genes,
I don't know, bad karma, 

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something. 
I had this acne. 

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And so I persisted a while 
longer, and then eventually I 

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got to college and I was eating 
lunch with a friend and 

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complaining about my skin. 
And she had mentioned she's 

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like, you know, there might be 
caused, it might be caused by 

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what you're eating. 
And I was like, that's crazy. 

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I've been to all these different
dermatologists, and not one of 

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them have ever asked me what I 
was eating. 

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She's like, yeah, you know, you 
should, you should try it. 

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And meanwhile, I'm sitting 
there, by the way, having two 

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slices of pizza, Coca-Cola and 
Entenmann's chocolate chip 

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00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,800
cookies. 
So anything would have been the 

452
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,240
fruit of a bat. 
So anyway, I was like OK just 

453
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,360
tell me what to do, you know, 
give me guidance. 

454
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,800
And Long story short, I 
overhauled my diet, worked on 

455
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640
repairing my gut, and within 
about 3 months my skin cleared 

456
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,920
up. 
Five years. 

457
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,320
Wow. 
Which is insane. 

458
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,200
That is wild. 
Our stories are so similar and I

459
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,280
won't go through all of it, but 
I mean basically what you just 

460
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,440
said is my story also, and I 
point blank asked my 

461
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,200
dermatologist at one point like 
can I change anything about my 

462
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,000
diet or lifestyle? 
I just felt like there was this,

463
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,640
there had to be something that 
was causing it, but I didn't 

464
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,720
know how to figure that out at 
the time. 

465
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,120
And I asked her and she said, 
Nope, it's purely genetic. 

466
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,640
There's nothing you can do other
than use these creams and take 

467
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,440
these antibiotics. 
And that was the answer she gave

468
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000
me. 
And at one point, I remember 

469
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,960
even, like, wanting to be on 
Accutane and my mom wouldn't let

470
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,840
me, which I'm so thankful for 
now. 

471
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,680
Yeah, I'm curious, did your 
doctor verbally tell you the 

472
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,920
side effects or Accutane or you 
just happened to see that on 

473
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,080
your own? 
I just happened to see it 

474
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,560
happened to see it. 
And honestly that this is 

475
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,280
something I feel really strongly
what about because I know a lot 

476
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,200
of people side effects, not 
everyone's going to get side 

477
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,960
effects, of course. 
And I know people who've taken 

478
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,200
Accutane and are happy that they
took it and they seem fine, 

479
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,040
they're good. 
But I also know a lot of people 

480
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,840
who were injured by it and 
severely injured. 

481
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,880
And, you know, there's also 
stories in the news of people 

482
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,320
who have, you know, teenagers 
who have committed suicide of 

483
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,240
this. 
And, and I, I don't think we're 

484
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,000
doing enough to, you know, 
educate people, especially 

485
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,120
children and teenagers, the 
importance of diet and 

486
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,240
lifestyle. 
And I think that that's really 

487
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,080
where we need to start. 
We need to figure out what is 

488
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,840
the root cause because acne, 
this is actually something 

489
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,360
really interesting. 
A lot of people think acne is 

490
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,480
caused by bacteria, right When 
we were growing up, that's what 

491
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,480
you saw in all the magazines and
everything. 

492
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,360
You know you need to use this 
cream or cream or scrub, you 

493
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,120
know, for acne causing bacteria.
It was like wipe out all the 

494
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:38,240
bacteria from your skin and just
scrub it as clean as you can and

495
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,400
then you'll be good. 
Exactly. 

496
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,240
Which never worked. 
No, just nothing worse. 

497
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,760
But So what we now know is that 
acne is actually caused by 

498
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,520
inflammation. 
So in the early 20 TENS, after 

499
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,960
decades of research showing that
acne is indeed caused by 

500
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,080
inflammation, not bacteria. 
So the bacteria that we've, you 

501
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,160
know, that's called the acne 
causing bacteria. 

502
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,120
It's also present on clear and 
healthy skin and typically in 

503
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,480
equal amounts. 
You can also have someone with 

504
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,640
acne who doesn't have that 
specific bacteria on their skin 

505
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,600
and they still have acne. 
And you know, bacteria may play 

506
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,480
a role in acne, but it is not 
that first domino that sets up 

507
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,400
the whole chain of events. 
That's inflammation. 

508
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,760
So now, if you actually look at 
the definition of acne, it's a 

509
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,600
chronic inflammatory skin 
disorder. 

510
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,800
So we really need to understand 
what is causing the 

511
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,040
inflammation. 
And I guess the challenge is 

512
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,400
that there's so many factors 
that can cause inflammation. 

513
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,160
So it's not going to be the same
for me or you and every other 

514
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,360
person. 
It's going to be, there's going 

515
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:41,200
to be variation. 
And so I, I do really think that

516
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,800
once we understood that acne was
caused by inflammation instead 

517
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,960
of bacteria, that should have 
really changed how we treat and 

518
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,000
address acne, but it didn't. 
We're still Antibiotics are the 

519
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,480
most commonly prescribed 
medicine for acne. 

520
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:02,400
Which is insane and totally 
disrupts your gut bacteria which

521
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,280
makes your skin way worse. 
Even if it helps short term, 

522
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,720
it's never going to be a long 
term solution. 

523
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Exactly, and the reason that it 
likely is working is because the

524
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,280
class of antibiotics that is 
used for acne also has 

525
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,200
anti-inflammatory properties. 
So often what happens is when 

526
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,040
someone is on antibiotics for 
acne, their skin may clear up, 

527
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,440
but once they go off within 369 
months because of the gut 

528
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,480
dysbiosis that was created, the 
acne comes back and often with a

529
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320
vengeance. 
You mentioned spironolactone 

530
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,680
earlier and I feel like that is 
often seen as a more mild acne 

531
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,920
medication, but what are some 
side effects of taking 

532
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,720
spironolactone? 
So spironolactone, it's an anti 

533
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,200
androgen so that's often why 
it's prescribed for for acne. 

534
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,840
It's kind of like an off label 
use. 

535
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,080
So side effects, you could have 
things like dizziness and like 

536
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,400
headaches and that that sort of 
thing. 

537
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,440
It's also diuretic. 
So you're also going to be 

538
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,720
losing minerals and 
electrolytes. 

539
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,520
So you can end up with nutrient 
imbalances. 

540
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,080
And then you can also, it can 
also affect your, your period, 

541
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,320
your menstrual cycle, and you 
can't take it if you want to get

542
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,520
pregnant. 
So I think, you know, when it 

543
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,880
comes to medications, there's a 
time and place for them. 

544
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,920
But I think when it comes to 
acne, the first place to start 

545
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,160
is always going to be your diet 
and lifestyle and trying to 

546
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,960
understand what are the 
imbalances, what is creating 

547
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,200
inflammation for you? 
So how do people go about doing 

548
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,920
that? 
How do they figure out what that

549
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,200
trigger is for them? 
So. 

550
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,920
That's a great question because 
on your own it is, it is quite 

551
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,880
difficult. 
And I will say sometimes people 

552
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,080
will come to me and say, you 
know, I already eat quite 

553
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,640
healthy, but I'm still breaking 
out. 

554
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,120
So I think it's important to 
note that a few things like 

555
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,080
everyone's definition of healthy
is different, right? 

556
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,720
So is it actually healthy for 
your body or not? 

557
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,880
Maybe you are eating healthy, 
but are you absorbing all your 

558
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,720
nutrients? 
Maybe you have some gut issues 

559
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,880
where you're not actually 
absorbing what you're eating. 

560
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,800
So there's so many different 
factors at play. 

561
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,800
So I would say really working 
with someone, a nutritionist who

562
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,960
specializes in acne would really
be the the 1st place to start 

563
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,560
because they can look at your 
history and look at your food 

564
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,120
diary also. 
And kind of give you a good 

565
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,840
starting point because we know 
that, for example, nutrient 

566
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,600
deficiencies are associated with
acne. 

567
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,120
So things like vitamin A, 
omega-3 and zinc, these are very

568
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,840
common deficiencies amongst 
people with acne. 

569
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,760
And oftentimes the worse the 
deficiency, the worse the 

570
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,120
severity of acne. 
So, you know, I could look at 

571
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,520
someone's food diary and say it 
looks like you may not be eating

572
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,760
enough of this particular 
nutrient. 

573
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200
Why don't you get this tested, 
you know, and then check and 

574
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,080
then, OK, we need to add these 
foods in. 

575
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,360
I always like to do a Food First
approach approach when when 

576
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,400
possible. 
Another area or another possible

577
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,520
factor could be too many pro 
inflammatory foods, whether 

578
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,240
that's the vegetable oils or the
processed foods, the packaged 

579
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,720
foods that could be that could 
be an issue of source of 

580
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,880
inflammation, gut dysbiosis. 
Our modern lifestyle almost 

581
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,920
seems designed to disrupt our 
guts, whether it's medications 

582
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,880
we're taking, antibiotics, of 
course, but even other 

583
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440
medications like birth control, 
for example, can disrupt our gut

584
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,920
and also deplete our nutrients. 
Stress is bad for our gut. 

585
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,640
It's disrupting our gut 
microbiome, the chemicals around

586
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,800
us, the foods that we're eating.
There's just so many things that

587
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,280
disrupt our gut microbiome. 
So if there is dysbiosis there, 

588
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,080
that can cause a problem. 
And we know that acne patients 

589
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,600
tend to lack some of this good 
Lactobacillus and bifidobacteria

590
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360
in their guts compared to 
healthy controls. 

591
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,840
We know that they tend to. 
They may be more likely to have 

592
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,960
increased intestinal 
permeability or leaky gut, which

593
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,400
is really the main source of 
inflammation in the body. 

594
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,080
It's often starting in the gut 
with leaky gut and hormonal 

595
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,920
imbalances That could be a 
problem. 

596
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,320
But I always tell people with 
hormone imbalances, it's not 

597
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,800
your hormones that are the 
problem. 

598
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,400
It's the factors in the diet and
lifestyle that are causing your 

599
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
hormones to become unbalanced 
that's the problem because 

600
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,200
hormones are messengers. 
So they're reacting to things, 

601
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,520
right? 
And they're giving messages 

602
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,480
based on your environment, your 
diet, all of this stuff, your 

603
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,080
thoughts even. 
And so when there is an 

604
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,440
imbalance, we need to try to 
understand why there's an 

605
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520
imbalance. 
And I think that's the better 

606
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,280
way to fix it versus, you know, 
trying to artificially 

607
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,400
manipulate the hormones and 
blood sugar imbalances. 

608
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,200
That's a big one. 
That's another root cause and 

609
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,440
stress. 
I would say those are some of 

610
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,440
the biggest ones. 
So really kind of doing a deep 

611
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,480
dive into your diet and 
lifestyle and, and being honest 

612
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,960
and seeing where, where maybe 
you're falling short or where 

613
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,120
you can make improvements. 
Before someone does any sort of 

614
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,480
testing, are there certain foods
that you would recommend adding 

615
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,960
into your diet and eliminating 
from your diet in order to 

616
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880
improve acne and improve your 
skin? 

617
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,560
Absolutely, because testing can 
also be expensive. 

618
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,040
So sometimes it's enough to just
like add the things and remove 

619
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,320
the things that are not great. 
You may not even need to do the 

620
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,160
test because it makes such a big
difference. 

621
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,840
But I would say in terms of 
adding in dark leafy greens and 

622
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,960
bright orange veggies, these are
really great. 

623
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,400
They're a great source of 
carotenoids, antioxidants, 

624
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,400
fiber. 
So I would say those are really 

625
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200
helpful. 
Anything rich in omega-3. 

626
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,880
So I love ground flaxseed. 
I love wild salmon, anchovies, 

627
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,080
mackerel, sardines. 
Liver is a super food for the 

628
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,040
skin. 
So whether that's beef liver, 

629
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,400
like your beef liver smoothie. 
I'm so sorry I don't have one 

630
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,200
for you today. 
I slacked off and couldn't get 

631
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,720
it together. 
I'm going to try and making it 

632
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,640
at home when I get the time to 
make. 

633
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,760
One I want to send me and we'll 
like FaceTime and drink one 

634
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,640
together. 
I love that. 

635
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,280
Yeah. 
So I'm really curious how it how

636
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,000
it tastes. 
Yeah, if you get it right, you 

637
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,080
can't taste it. 
Yeah. 

638
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,600
So I'm just doing one cube. 
That's it. 

639
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,440
Yeah, Not seven. 
Yeah. 

640
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,800
Just one yeah, one. 
No, I don't do 7 anymore. 

641
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,920
I was so hardcore at that time 
and just like chugged it to get 

642
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,720
it down. 
But no, you don't even need that

643
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,600
much like one cube personally. 
That's fine. 

644
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,080
I also love cod liver oil, which
we talked about. 

645
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,640
Cod liver oil is amazing. 
And I like cod liver oil because

646
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,880
it's also a source of vitamin 
A&D and it's very easy feel like

647
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,520
if you just hold your nose, I 
guess even like the smoothie, it

648
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,000
goes down. 
Yeah, it's not bad. 

649
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,160
I actually, I give, we were 
talking earlier, we both take 

650
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,800
the same brand, Rosita, and they
have like the oil, just the pure

651
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,720
oil in the bottle. 
And they also encapsulate the 

652
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,360
oil. 
Yes. 

653
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,760
And so I give my kids the little
the capsules and they chew on 

654
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,440
them and they actually love 
them. 

655
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Like they beg for them. 
It's so interesting. 

656
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Oh, wow. 
Yeah, that's great. 

657
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,960
And they taste like fish, like 
they're not yummy. 

658
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,480
They're not like flavored with 
anything. 

659
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,080
Oh my God, I know. 
But they. 

660
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,960
Do it has like a very pure 
taste, like the Rosita cod lip 

661
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,480
oil? 
Yeah. 

662
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,920
It's a very clean and mild 
taste, which is nice. 

663
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,600
And if you've tasted other cod 
liver oils, they taste either 

664
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,240
rancid or they taste very 
artificial because there's some 

665
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,120
artificial. 
Flavor. 

666
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,160
A lot of them are rancid, right?
They aren't. 

667
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,400
Yeah, and I mean, I haven't seen
any cod liver oil that can match

668
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,480
Rosita in terms of nutrients, 
naturally occurring nutrients, 

669
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,160
because the vitamin A and the D 
that are in Rosita cod liver oil

670
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,800
are naturally occurring. 
They use a cold processing, you 

671
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,840
know, way of getting the oil. 
So it maintains the the 

672
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,880
nutrients. 
Whereas all of these other 

673
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,280
companies, they're using heat to
extract the the oil, which is 

674
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,800
going to degrade the vitamin A 
and the vitamin D So they often 

675
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,480
end up adding back synthetic to,
you know, to bump up the label. 

676
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Interesting. 
Yeah. 

677
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,720
And vitamin A is such an 
important nutrient for acne. 

678
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,920
Preventing acne, healing acne. 
I mean, that's what Accutane is 

679
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,120
like in a synthetic form. 
And I think that's what's so 

680
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,120
great about getting vitamin A 
naturally, is it, it's present 

681
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,320
in a more balanced combination 
with, you know, it's, it's in 

682
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,600
real food form. 
So you're not going to get this 

683
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,720
the side effects of liver 
toxicity and other things that 

684
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,480
synthetic vitamin A can have. 
Exactly, Yes. 

685
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,440
And that's also, I'm glad that 
you bring that up because that's

686
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,080
also a point that I make to 
people. 

687
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,280
If you're even thinking about 
Accutane, try, well, first just 

688
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,440
assess your diet. 
And you'll see pretty quickly 

689
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,199
whether or not without even out,
without doing testing, you can 

690
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,960
look at your diet and say, OK, 
am I actually eating vitamin A? 

691
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,000
Because if you're not eating 
liver and you're not eating an 

692
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,520
abundant amounts of dark leafy 
greens or orange veggies, you're

693
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,480
most likely not getting enough. 
Yeah. 

694
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,320
I mean, it's almost guaranteed. 
So I would say, yeah, liver is 

695
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,560
just an amazing skin superfood. 
So our body uses vitamin A for 

696
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,920
skin cell turnover. 
So it helps to prevent clogged 

697
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719
pores. 
So if you're even considering 

698
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,960
Accutane, before you do it, 
assess your vitamin A and try 

699
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719
just adding it back in and you 
may find that you don't need it.

700
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,440
That is such good advice. 
What foods across the board 

701
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,560
would you recommend eliminating 
from your diet if you're 

702
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,920
struggling with acne? 
So trying to avoid vegetable 

703
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,639
oils as much as possible. 
I say as much as possible 

704
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,080
because of course at home you 
want to eliminate them. 

705
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,640
But if you're eating out here 
and there, I think it's OK. 

706
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680
We don't want to stress so much 
that the stress causes a 

707
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,120
breakout and disrupts our guts. 
So I think in this day and age, 

708
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,360
it's inevitable. 
Of course, we can do our best to

709
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,720
choose restaurants that don't 
use seed oils, and thankfully 

710
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,800
there are more and more 
restaurants that are cooking 

711
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,240
without seed oils. 
I'm that annoying person that 

712
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,400
when I go out I will ask for 
like my food to be cooked in 

713
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,840
pure butter or pure extra virgin
olive oil. 

714
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
If you just ask for olive oil, a
lot of times that's cut with 

715
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,920
canola oil and I used to kind of
be wishy washy about it and feel

716
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,480
kind of bad. 
Now, I do not feel bad at all 

717
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,320
because and like everyone needs 
to be asking these questions and

718
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,160
then things will change. 
Like, if everyone were demanding

719
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,360
better, more quality oils for 
their foods to be cooked in, 

720
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,640
restaurants would eventually get
sick of it and just, like, 

721
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040
switch to avocado oil and butter
and, you know, all these. 

722
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,720
And well, I think that's what's 
happening. 

723
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,520
So yeah, I always tell people 
don't feel bad about asking for 

724
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,360
substitutions that would change 
things. 

725
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,880
I think that's totally fine. 
But I, I also think, and I'm 

726
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,480
also like that, but I feel like 
sometimes you're going to come 

727
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,880
across them at some point. 
You know, if you're on a plane 

728
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,640
and you're starving, you know, 
you didn't pack course. 

729
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Yeah, don't stress about it that
much. 

730
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,520
Just try to eliminate it as much
as you can. 

731
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,440
But don't, you know, don't go 
overboard. 

732
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,560
The way to kind of 
counterbalance it if you are 

733
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,040
having vegetable oils is to make
sure you have a lot of Omega 

734
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,880
threes. 
That's really, really important 

735
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,920
if. 
Vegetable oils are high in Omega

736
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,600
6 and when that ratio is too 
imbalanced it can there can 

737
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,680
cause. 
Yeah, exactly. 

738
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,200
So we want to make sure that our
body really has a lot of 

739
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,960
omega-3, and that can kind of 
help to counterbalance what's 

740
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,320
that refined sugar, we don't 
really have any need for that. 

741
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,360
And I don't think that means 
that we can never eat anything 

742
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,480
sweet or dessert. 
Fruit is amazing. 

743
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Trying to use whole, like 
sweeteners as much as possible. 

744
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,880
Things like dates, for example, 
to sweeten desserts, I think 

745
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,480
that's ideal. 
So yeah, refined sugar, we don't

746
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,720
really have a need for that. 
And then I would say soda for 

747
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:57,240
sure, dairy is a controversial 1
because there is some science on

748
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,240
a connection between dairy and 
acne and actually a lot of 

749
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:04,200
larger scale studies that have 
shown a connection between dairy

750
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,000
intake and acne. 
Now, of course, this is not 

751
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,000
looking at raw dairy intake, 
it's looking at commercial dairy

752
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,720
intake. 
So I don't know that there's any

753
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,520
research that's actually looked 
at the difference between people

754
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,040
consuming raw milk. 
But commercial dairy absolutely 

755
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,080
I would avoid if you're acne 
prone skin. 

756
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,520
I've seen you talk about face 
mapping before. 

757
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,560
What is face mapping and what 
can it tell us about what's 

758
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,200
going on inside? 
Of our bodies face mapping comes

759
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160
from traditional Chinese 
medicine and the idea is that 

760
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,280
where the acne is located on 
your face can be an indicator of

761
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,440
the underlying dysfunction in 
your body. 

762
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:45,920
So typically around the lower 
part of the face, this is more 

763
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,400
hormonal based. 
You know, there's a certain area

764
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,360
for your liver for your 
digestion. 

765
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,400
I believe the the forehead is 
digestion. 

766
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,920
But what I will say I I do think
there is definitely truth to it.

767
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,320
There's no studies to back this 
up nobody's studied this. 

768
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:06,360
But I think that in some 
respects our hormones and our 

769
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,000
gut are really kind of 
underpinning all all forms of 

770
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,440
acne. 
And it's really important that 

771
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,720
when we are trying to get rid of
acne, we really start gut 1st 

772
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,200
and that's going to help with 
the hormone balance and 

773
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,320
everything else. 
So face mapping I think has I 

774
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,320
think what's great about it is 
that that it encourages us to 

775
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,440
think a little bit and kind of 
draw the connection between 

776
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,680
what's happening on our skin and
what's happening in our body. 

777
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,680
But ultimately, I think really 
starting with our gut is really,

778
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,040
I think all acne is really 
originating from the gut more or

779
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,360
less. 
And we've talked about food a 

780
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,680
little bit. 
What are some lifestyle habits 

781
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:48,200
that people can either adopt or 
ditch to just holistically 

782
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,200
support their whole system, 
their gut, their hormones, 

783
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,720
everything? 
Well, I think spending time in 

784
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:57,360
nature is one of the easiest, 
cheapest things that we can do 

785
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,360
to support our overall health. 
It helps to lower our stress 

786
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920
levels, our cortisol levels, 
which is are really important, 

787
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,120
is great for our gut microbiome.
So I think spending as much time

788
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,600
in nature as possible and you 
don't need to be out on a farm 

789
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,360
like we are right now. 
You could be at Central Park or 

790
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,000
some Green Park in your city, 
even just on a stretch of grass.

791
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,480
Studies have shown that 
literally just even sitting on a

792
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,280
patch of grass in your backyard 
for I think 10 or 20 minutes is 

793
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,800
enough to kind of lower some of 
those stress hormones or 

794
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,400
listening to the birds, for 
example. 

795
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,960
Yes, I've started every day, 
like going outside, rounding, 

796
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,120
listening to the birds recently.
And I try to take my kids out 

797
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,440
there with me and I don't spend 
a long time out there, but even 

798
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,320
like 10 minutes, it really does 
so much for your body. 

799
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,680
And I feel like if people could 
do that in the morning and in 

800
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,960
the evening, it would just 
change so much for our society. 

801
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,600
I think so. 
Like one thing that I've built 

802
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,760
into my day is daily walks. 
So I do take a morning walk and 

803
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,160
I take an evening walk and it's 
just a great time to first of 

804
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,040
all, get a little bit of sun, 
get a little bit of nature, not 

805
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,320
be glued to your phone. 
And I'm not going to lie, there 

806
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,160
are times I look at my phone 
when I walk, but I try to keep 

807
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,440
it away and really listen to the
birds and look at the greens and

808
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,520
look at the flowers and things. 
Because otherwise we're just go,

809
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,280
go, go all the rest of the day 
and we don't have time to think 

810
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,400
one one thing. 
I also. 

811
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,280
I like to do, which I don't 
necessarily do every single day,

812
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,920
but I like to sometimes walk 
without a podcast, without 

813
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,520
listening to anything, without 
talking to anyone on the phone 

814
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:32,000
and just being with my thoughts.
Because it's during those 

815
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,960
moments where I feel like you 
get the best ideas and the best 

816
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,480
intuitions and insights. 
And maybe you're thinking of a 

817
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200
problem and the solution comes 
to you when you can actually be 

818
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,440
quiet. 
Because all day long we're 

819
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,600
surrounded by noise, TV's and 
phone calls and social media and

820
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,360
this and that that. 
We never really have time to 

821
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,720
just let our mind wander, and 
doing it on a walk I think is a 

822
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,320
really great way to let your 
mind wander. 

823
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,840
I completely agree, I'm really 
into walks also and for a long 

824
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,040
time I was in the habit of 
always listening to a podcast 

825
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,520
when I walked and so before I 
would head out I would like OK 

826
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,480
which podcast am I listening to?
Queue it up and one day I'm 

827
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,760
like, wait, I don't, I don't 
have to do this. 

828
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Like sometimes it's nice, you 
know, but if you're, if you've 

829
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,040
just been, if you've had a long 
week or a long day that's been 

830
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,640
go, go, go. 
Like we forget sometimes that we

831
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:23,200
can just tune out and like be in
silence without having to take 

832
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,280
in more information. 
Even that alone can be so good 

833
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,240
for you. 
And just like such a good way to

834
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,920
clear your brain and clear. 
Your head restorative. 

835
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,160
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

836
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,200
We don't always have to be doing
something. 

837
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,280
Yeah. 
Which is a hard thing to learn 

838
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,200
sometimes, but once you do it 
you're like wow this feels 

839
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,000
amazing. 
Right. 

840
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,360
I feel so much more arrested and
restorative. 

841
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,280
What other signs that show up on
the skin can be indicative of 

842
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,560
something going on internally 
that isn't so good? 

843
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,400
Sure. 
So dark circles under the eyes. 

844
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,160
If you're not like if you're 
actually sleeping and you still 

845
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,920
have dark circles under your 
eyes, then you might want to get

846
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520
your iron levels checked because
that could be a sign of iron 

847
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,560
deficiency. 
If you have bumps on the back of

848
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,080
your arms, like the chicken 
skin, it's called keratosis 

849
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120
pilaris. 
That could be a sign of vitamin 

850
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,760
A deficiency. 
Interesting, I've had several 

851
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,560
people ask me about that 
recently. 

852
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Yeah, yeah. 
So that's that. 

853
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,280
I actually had someone ask me 
about that the other day and 

854
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,360
she's like, I go to the 
dermatologist all the time and 

855
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,480
they prescribe all these creams 
and lotions and tell me use this

856
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,520
and that. 
And she's like, it never goes 

857
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,000
away. 
Like yeah, got to get your 

858
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520
vitamin A levels checked or just
add some vitamin A into your 

859
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,000
diet. 
Yeah, some of my nieces and 

860
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000
nephews are struggling with that
right now. 

861
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,400
I'll give them some procedures. 
Maybe make them your smoothie. 

862
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Yeah, what else? 
Psoriasis. 

863
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,920
That is an autoimmune condition 
and and most if not all 

864
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,440
autoimmune conditions are 
believed to really start in the 

865
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,440
gut from a functional medicine 
perspective with leaky gut or 

866
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,040
increased intestinal 
permeability. 

867
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,360
So definitely for psoriasis, I 
would start there and for 

868
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,840
rosacea as well. 
There are a number of people who

869
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,880
have rosacea who also have SIBO,
which is small intestinal 

870
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,200
bacterial overgrowth. 
So if you're struggling with 

871
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,120
rosacea, I would say definitely 
doing comprehensive gut testing 

872
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,480
and testing for SIBO. 
I want to circle back to blood 

873
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,440
sugar because we touched on it a
little bit, but what are the 

874
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,800
other concerns with having 
imbalance blood sugar? 

875
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,960
Like we know it can trigger 
acne. 

876
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,120
What else? 
What's happening in your body 

877
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,920
when your blood sugar is 
elevated, and how else can it 

878
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,720
show up on the skin? 
Yeah, So the the biggest issue 

879
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,960
with imbalance, blood sugar, I 
would say it would be 

880
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,840
inflammation. 
And inflammation doesn't just 

881
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,520
trigger skin problems, it 
triggers a host of other 

882
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,800
problems in the body. 
It's also associated with weight

883
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,000
gain, brain fog. 
So it's affecting our mood, it's

884
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,320
affecting our gut health. 
It's going to be wiping out some

885
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,640
of the good bacteria in our gut 
as well. 

886
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,480
So it could be manipulating our 
hunger, right? 

887
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,760
It can also make you more 
hungry. 

888
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,680
And then typically when you 
start eating a lot of sugar, you

889
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,360
just want to eat more sugar. 
It kind of becomes this hamster 

890
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,160
wheel. 
So it's really important that we

891
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,000
are keeping our blood sugar 
stable so that we, you know, 

892
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,400
we're supporting our gut, we're 
supporting our skin, our mood, 

893
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,520
all of these things. 
And again, I it's not 

894
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,200
necessarily about never eating 
anything sweet, it's about doing

895
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,560
it wisely. 
So using whole sweeteners, 

896
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,840
things like dates or fruit are 
going to be way superior to 

897
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,960
eating a cookie. 
And I know it's not as fun. 

898
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,200
So that's when you have to kind 
of get creative and use the 

899
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,160
dates to make a cookie, you 
know, with some other stuff. 

900
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,200
With a steak before you eat the 
cookie and not in the reverse 

901
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,920
order. 
Exactly, so that's another big 

902
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,800
tip is if you're going to eat 
something sweet, not don't do it

903
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,000
as a snack, do it as dessert 
always should be dessert and 

904
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,640
don't eat dessert first. 
Eat dessert last after you've 

905
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,120
had a well balanced meal with 
fiber, protein and fat. 

906
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,480
That is going to help keep your 
blood sugar more stable. 

907
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:59,120
Interestingly, there's also 
research to suggest that if you 

908
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,880
have a plate that has let's say 
vegetables, protein and 

909
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,680
carbohydrates, the order in 
which you eat those foods 

910
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,760
actually makes a difference on 
your blood sugar. 

911
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,840
So if you eat the carbohydrates 
1st and then the veggies and 

912
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,840
then the protein, your blood 
sugar is going to rise more than

913
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,680
if you were to eat the fiber 
first, then the protein, then 

914
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,920
the carbs. 
Your blood sugar will be a bit 

915
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,560
more stable because the fiber 
actually creates kind of like a 

916
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,880
shield in your gut to prevent 
some of that sugar from being 

917
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,000
absorbed into your bloodstream. 
And also protein and fat, same 

918
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,320
thing. 
They're going to help keep your 

919
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,760
blood sugar more stable. 
That's something I'm trying to 

920
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,240
get better at remembering 
because I I always tend to eat 

921
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,200
the protein first, but having 
some kind of fiber even before 

922
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,480
that, I've I've heard the same 
thing that you just said that 

923
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,880
that can be really helpful. 
So I'm trying to now eat like a 

924
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,000
raw carrot every day before 
dinner. 

925
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Oh, nice. 
Carrots are amazing for your 

926
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,800
skin. 
Although I had a viral video on 

927
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,720
this. 
Really. 

928
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:56,840
Yeah. 
Super viral. 

929
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,680
It was crazy. 
I wasn't expecting it. 

930
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,840
But carrots contain carotenoids,
which are the plant pigment that

931
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,880
give carrots their orange color.
Carotenoids, their antioxidants,

932
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,400
beta carotene. 
In carrots, our body is 

933
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,800
converting that into vitamin A, 
Yeah. 

934
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,560
So it's helpful for our skin in 
that regard. 

935
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,600
But carotenoids are also stored 
in the skin, so they actually 

936
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,080
give your skin a nice sort of 
yellow, golden tan color or more

937
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,680
glow. 
And what's interesting is, you 

938
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,160
know, when you think of someone 
who's sick, you think they're 

939
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,600
very pale, right? 
Yeah. 

940
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:31,920
And if you think of someone 
who's healthy, they typically 

941
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,080
have some color to their skin, 
and so eating a carotenoid rich 

942
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,640
diet can actually help your skin
maintain a little bit more of a 

943
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,280
glow or a tan. 
That's so interesting, I am 

944
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,040
doubling down on my pre dinner 
carrots now. 

945
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Yes. 
That's for sure. 

946
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,440
What are some other sources of 
carotenoids? 

947
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,400
Anything orange, so sweet 
potato, butternut squash, any of

948
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,240
those winter squashes would be 
good. 

949
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,040
Anything orange basically would 
have it, or even red and yellow.

950
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:01,880
Red and yellow like bell Peppers
for example. 

951
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,320
Those will be a source of 
carotenoids. 

952
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,880
And good for the eyes too. 
Right. 

953
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,200
Exactly. 
I've heard that, like, those are

954
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:11,000
those foods are more in season 
during the winter because it's 

955
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,760
darker and it actually helps our
vision, helps us to, like, see 

956
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,800
better when there isn't as much 
light. 

957
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,240
Interesting. 
Yeah. 

958
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:19,520
I don't know. 
I just think it's cool how, 

959
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,600
like, everything in nature is 
designed to promote health and 

960
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,840
healing. 
And it's so easy to become 

961
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,400
disconnected from that in the 
world in which we live in, where

962
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,720
foods are shipped in from 
another country. 

963
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,080
And, you know, we're not in tune
with like, eating seasonally and

964
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,720
being outside and having our 
circadian rhythm and our 

965
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,920
hormones regulated by light. 
I just love like, learning about

966
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,600
how everything actually is so 
connected, and if we can kind of

967
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,480
go back to some of these old 
ancestral ways of living, 

968
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,600
they're going to support our 
health and our bodies so much. 

969
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Yeah, I think seasonal eating is
maybe not the easiest thing to 

970
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,440
do. 
No, it's not. 

971
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,320
It's hard to find seasonal food 
sometimes because we do, you 

972
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,720
know, especially if we're living
in cities, there's no farm 

973
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,960
nearby and, and everything is 
being trucked in from all across

974
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,480
the country. 
And so sometimes you can't even 

975
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,160
find anything that's grown 
locally. 

976
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,560
But if you could, if you could 
find or maybe even start, maybe 

977
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,920
it's even just herbs, you grow 
some herbs on your window sill 

978
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,600
or something. 
Just having something you know 

979
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,160
in your garden, I think, I think
helps. 

980
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,760
You've been really open about 
your views on Botox and anti 

981
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,000
aging. 
Does Botox actually age the skin

982
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,040
prematurely? 
So what we're seeing now, 

983
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,560
especially with this push 
towards preventative Botox, of 

984
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,440
doing Botox in 20 year olds who 
don't have wrinkles yet, is that

985
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,960
when you paralyze the skin and 
there's no movement, the skin or

986
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,360
the muscle, I should say, 
actually atrophies. 

987
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,240
And so it can become more loose 
and saggy and more wrinkled over

988
00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:59,760
time. 
So you kind of have to keep 

989
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,280
doing it. 
And yeah, that's sort of the, 

990
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,800
the unspoken, you know, truth 
about Botox is that when you 

991
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,520
start doing it too early, it can
actually end, end up making you 

992
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,320
look older than you are. 
Besides for the fact that having

993
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,920
a very frozen face does make you
look older because young faces 

994
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,000
aren't frozen, you know, so we 
have movement in our face. 

995
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,440
So yes. 
So I think with Botox, everyone 

996
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,840
needs to decide what to do for 
themselves. 

997
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,920
But I think this is another 
pharmaceutical that we're using 

998
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,360
that people aren't fully 
explained all of the side 

999
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,640
effects, you know, before, 
before it's injected. 

1000
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,240
And I, I think that there are 
definitely some people who like,

1001
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,880
OK, I don't care, sign me up, 
let's do it, you know, But there

1002
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,120
are some people who may pause 
before doing it because there 

1003
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,440
are some serious side effects of
using Botox. 

1004
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,280
It is, after all, the most toxic
poison known to man. 

1005
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,640
So do we really want to be 
injecting that into our bodies? 

1006
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,000
I don't. 
I don't think so. 

1007
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,160
And you've shared your 
experience about injecting or 

1008
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,320
having Botox injected into your 
armpits? 

1009
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,400
Yeah, at an earlier age. 
Tell us about that. 

1010
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,520
So yeah, I mean, had this not 
happened to me, I might be 

1011
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,120
injecting Botox in my forehead 
right now. 

1012
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:19,960
But when I was like like 1718 
years old, I remember getting my

1013
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,920
nails done and reading all the 
magazines. 

1014
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,200
And at the time, it was very 
popular for celebrities to get 

1015
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,160
Botox injections under their 
arms to prevent them from 

1016
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,000
sweating. 
And I sweat. 

1017
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,600
I was like, I don't want to 
sweat. 

1018
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,240
I'm going to go to my 
dermatologist. 

1019
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:35,880
I'm going to ask for Botox under
my arms. 

1020
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:41,160
I went, they did it within a few
days or a week, whatever it was,

1021
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,320
I'm still sweating. 
And I wasn't supposed to be 

1022
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,720
sweating at this point. 
And at this time, I have no 

1023
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:49,680
concept of lymph nodes and, you 
know, health or anything like 

1024
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,880
that, healthy eating, lifestyle,
nothing. 

1025
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,080
And so I go back to the 
dermatologist and I'm like, I'm 

1026
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,480
still sweating. 
They're like, OK, we'll do it 

1027
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,840
again. 
So they inject it again. 

1028
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,800
Again, I have no idea how much 
they put in. 

1029
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,080
After that second time, my lymph
nodes under my arm started 

1030
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,720
swelling like crazy. 
I mean, under this arm, it was 

1031
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:12,040
like a golf ball and it was so 
painful and it would really, I 

1032
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,800
would have this swelling kind of
going on and off honestly for 

1033
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,080
years. 
And I also developed like 

1034
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,800
shortly thereafter, something 
called morphia, which is a form 

1035
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,640
of localized Scleroderma. 
Basically, it was like a sheet 

1036
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:28,880
of scar tissue. 
Like right. 

1037
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,720
You can actually see it, it's 
like red now, but this was an 

1038
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,520
entire sheet of like shiny scar 
tissue. 

1039
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,960
It's starts to, it's still like 
you can still see my skin is 

1040
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,960
discolored here. 
It's a bit red, but, and I did 

1041
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,760
micro needling to try and get 
rid of it. 

1042
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,800
And this is 20 years ago. 
So I'm, I still have this, but 

1043
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,680
it, it's an autoimmune condition
basically, which I believe was 

1044
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,240
set off by the injection because
it's also right, you know, where

1045
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:57,000
I was having the swelling. 
So that's actually what got me 

1046
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,480
into Wellness, not so much the 
nutrition, but and doing things 

1047
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,280
like sauna, doing exercise, 
jumping, moving the lymphatic 

1048
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,080
system. 
Because otherwise, you know, if 

1049
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,320
you don't do anything, your 
lymph is just it's sagnant 

1050
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,080
there. 
So you really need to move it 

1051
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,240
and doing like lymphatic 
massage. 

1052
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,080
All of this stuff I think is 
really important. 

1053
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,080
That is a wild story. 
I didn't even know that was a 

1054
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,080
thing. 
Yeah. 

1055
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,000
Are people still doing that to 
prevent sweat? 

1056
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,680
Yes, they are. 
It's it's used for, it's called 

1057
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,920
hyperhidrosis, which is like 
excessive sweating. 

1058
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:30,120
People still use it. 
So I will say I don't sweat as 

1059
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,560
much now and I believe it's 
because my body is also more 

1060
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,320
balanced. 
And I think just like anything 

1061
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,360
else, just like acne, just like 
premature grey, whatever it is, 

1062
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,920
if you're sweating excessively, 
it's a sign of some imbalance 

1063
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,520
and it's better to figure out, 
OK, what's causing that 

1064
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,040
imbalance versus trying to cover
it up. 

1065
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,960
Agreed, Yeah. 
In your opinion, what are the 

1066
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,360
real foundations for aging 
gracefully and supporting 

1067
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,760
healthy skin long term? 
I think a nutrient dense diet is

1068
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,880
definitely number one, plenty of
protein. 

1069
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,760
Bone broth, I think it's really 
great. 

1070
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,080
I've also gotten into meat stock
lately, which is similar to bone

1071
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,720
broth, but you're just using 
bones that have more meat on 

1072
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,680
them. 
Very healing for the gut, 

1073
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,160
keeping your blood sugar stable.
I think it's really important 

1074
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,960
because when we have blood sugar
fluctuations that can actually 

1075
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,800
degrade our collagen, so that 
can break down our collagen 

1076
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,160
leading to lines and wrinkles. 
So it's important to keep our 

1077
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,480
blood sugar stable. 
And I think not stressing 

1078
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,000
things, which is sometimes the 
hardest one. 

1079
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,080
And sometimes we're like, I'll 
eat anything, just tell me what 

1080
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:45,200
to do, you know, but trying not 
to stress and actively getting 

1081
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,040
yourself to a place where you 
don't let things stress you out 

1082
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:51,120
that much, that is hard to do 
and something that I think we 

1083
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,960
all have to actively work on. 
And I'm also not perfect with 

1084
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,800
it, but I know, for example, 
when I'm active, like meditating

1085
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,240
regularly, life is so much 
better. 

1086
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,360
And it's not that my life is 
different, it's that I'm 

1087
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
different. 
It's that I'm calmer and it's 

1088
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,280
I'm less reactive. 
And so I think that managing our

1089
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,480
stress is really important. 
And I can see that even now, 

1090
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,640
like amongst my parents and my 
in laws and their all their 

1091
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,320
friends and things, when I look 
at that generation, some of them

1092
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,320
are very healthy and some of 
them are not. 

1093
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,240
And it's not necessarily the 
ones that are eating the 

1094
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:26,840
healthiest that are the 
healthiest. 

1095
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,720
It's the ones that are the 
happiest. 

1096
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,520
That's what I'm I'm seeing. 
And so yes, I'm not saying 

1097
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,440
they're eating vegetable oils 
and junk food, but I it's not 

1098
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,200
just the food, it's the mood, 
it's the attitude. 

1099
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,680
Yeah, absolutely. 
And you touched on a few things.

1100
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,080
But for you personally, what are
some other ways that you support

1101
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,040
your stress levels in your 
day-to-day life and routines and

1102
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,600
rhythms? 
So I think having a plan for me 

1103
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,920
helps reduce stress because I 
know what's happening when and 

1104
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,920
I'm prepared for it. 
I like to be prepared. 

1105
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:00,840
So I like to know what's going 
to happen when. 

1106
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,520
So for me, that works. 
Some people that might not work,

1107
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,400
that might stress them out more.
So find what works for you and 

1108
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,200
that's. 
Not funny. 

1109
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,160
Like I'm the same way. 
I kind of I like to schedule 

1110
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,200
things and that doesn't mean 
that that never changes or 

1111
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,200
fluctuates, but I like to have a
plan like you said. 

1112
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,840
My husband on the other hand, 
likes to just fly by the seat of

1113
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,760
his pants every minute of the 
day. 

1114
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,120
Everything is always in motion. 
I'm like, I, I don't know how 

1115
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,640
you do that. 
Like I would go crazy. 

1116
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,320
I it's the same with us maybe. 
I guess opposites attract. 

1117
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,760
It's yeah, it's complete 
opposite. 

1118
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,840
So that's one thing. 
I do feel meditation helps with 

1119
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,440
stress. 
I find time in nature helps me 

1120
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,280
with stress. 
So I do try to do my morning and

1121
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,560
evening walk every single day, 
even when I'm traveling, even, 

1122
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,560
you know, no matter what's going
on in life. 

1123
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And again, I do miss walks here 
and there, but for the most part

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I don't. 
And I would say those are 

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probably some of the big things.
Not eating sugar. 

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I I definitely find because I, 
I'm not perfect, like I don't 

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eat perfectly all the time. 
And I do find when I eat, for 

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example, chocolate or something,
I am a bit more anxious. 

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I am a little bit more, you 
know, on edge. 

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And so eating a healthy diet 
also does help with stress 

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because I feel like I just feel 
more calm and balanced also. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
Maria, this has been an 

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incredible conversation. 
You are a wealth of information 

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on all things healthy living and
caring for the skin from a 

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holistic perspective. 
Where can our listeners find you

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and continue to learn from you 
and tap into all of your 

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resources? 
So best place would be my 

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website mariamarlowe.com and 
Marlowe is spelled Marlowe. 

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I'm also on Instagram as Maria 
Marlowe and then YouTube and 

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TikTok are Glow by Marlow. 
Awesome. 

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And if you could give one last 
bit of encouragement for anyone 

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who is struggling with their 
skin and just feels discouraged 

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and doesn't know where to turn 
next, what would you say? 

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Acne or any skin issue, it's 
really a blessing in disguise. 

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I know it doesn't feel that way 
right now, but it is because 

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it's on our face or skin. 
It helps us to try to figure out

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the root cause. 
And typically that once we 

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figure out the root cause, 
that's going to help not just 

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our skin, but if we change our 
diet and lifestyle, it's better 

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for our immune system, our mood,
our overall health. 

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So really it is a blessing and 
once you get to the other side, 

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I think that will be more clear.
Love that. 

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Thank you, Maria. 
Thank you.