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So many women feel off even when
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think they're supposed to do. 
Women on average perceive stress

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like 40% higher than men. 
They're always going to figure 

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out like why do I feel this way?
Like why do I feel tired? 

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Like why am I gaining weight? 
This week, I'm sitting down with

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Doctor Austin Lake, a functional
medicine practitioner who's 

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helping women finally understand
why they can't lose weight or 

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operate with energy and clarity,
and how stress, metabolism, 

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toxins, and even our daily 
rhythms are quietly shaping how 

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we look, look and feel. 
A. 

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Lot of women start their day 
with caffeine, they start their 

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day with their phone, and they 
start their day with immediately

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getting in the doom scrolling 
cycle. 

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We'll breakdown what's really 
causing fatigue and burnout in 

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women today They're. 
Applying 150 chemicals to their 

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body every day and those 
chemicals that go through your 

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skin go right to your hormones. 
And how rebuilding your body's 

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foundation, not chasing quick 
fixes, can restore lasting 

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energy and peace. 
Let's dig in. 

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Doctor Lake, thank you so much 
for being here. 

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Yeah, thanks for having. 
Me, of course. 

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So normally we are grounded and 
grounded while we recorded these

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episodes and you're actually, 
you don't, you're not barefoot, 

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but you're still grounding. 
Tell us about these shoes that 

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you're wearing. 
Yeah, I just found, and this is 

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not an infomercial, I promise. 
Like I'm not even affiliate. 

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Maybe I will be. 
But yeah, these are grounding 

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shoes. 
I'm not sure if you guys can see

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it has a copper rod that kind of
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kind of connects to your foot 
and it's it's not uncomfortable.

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So my wife got me these and 
yeah, I've been rocking them. 

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So I figured I could try them 
out here on the Ground of 

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Wilderness podcast. 
Love that you feel a difference.

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Feel like you're. 
Barefoot. 

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Hard to actually, I don't know. 
Yeah, I don't feel anxious. 

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So maybe I maybe I do. 
I feel less inflamed. 

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I don't know. 
I feel. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
I feel very, very. 

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I don't. 
My son, he never might. 

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None of my kids wear shoes. 
Like they're always barefoot and

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they're always cutting their 
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But I should get him a pair of 
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they just naturally do. 
They have. 

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Probably it's earthing. 
Earthing Harmony is the the name

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of the company and I'm not sure.
I'm sure they do. 

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They probably my wife loves them
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Love it. 
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OK. 
You have a video on your 

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Instagram and it's a 
conversation between you and 

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Tamara Mowry. 
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Tia. 
Tamara. 

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OK, I thought so. 
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client of yours. 
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going on and on about how the 
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she feels amazing since working 
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what are some of the basic 
things that you did to help her 

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and that seem to just help every
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their health? 
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that I always try to do is just 
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life looks like, you know, like 
what challenges they face on an 

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ongoing basis, because it 
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anybody else to create a plan 
for something that they can't 

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follow. 
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you know, what is the day-to-day
struggle in terms of when you 

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wake up to when you go to bed? 
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throughout the day? 
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Are you getting sunlight? 
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Are you breathing clean air? 
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bedtime? 
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start with with all my clients. 
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her and just kind of figured out
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there's some missing gaps in 
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start your day. 
A lot of women start their day 

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with caffeine. 
They start their day with her 

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phone and they start their day 
with, you know, just immediately

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getting in the doom scrolling 
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And then that kind of leads into
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of their cortisol, because your 
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when you wake up, right? 
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wakes you up for normal 
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But if you're, if you're waking 
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cortisol and maybe going to the 
gym and none of this is is 

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promoting like a a calming 
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It's all promoting more stress 
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It's going to be very hard for a
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progesterone balance with 
estrogen to feel well and feel 

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calm. 
And so cortisol, if you are in a

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state of high cortisol 
chronically, you're going to 

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have a lower progesterone state 
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And so for a lot of my clients, 
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like, OK, if you have a hormonal
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you have disrupted cycles, or if
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perimenopause and it's going 
really rough for your 

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transitioning into menopause. 
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out like, why do I feel this 
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Like, why do I feel tired? 
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Why, Why do I need more thyroid 
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thyroid medication at all? 
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understanding that your 
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of your hormonal release 
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And so insulin is directly tied 
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So cortisol goes up, insulin 
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thing, goes down. 
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likely to store fat around your 
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areas that you don't like 
because it's a survival hormone.

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Like it's a it's survival 
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And so I always figure that out 
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And then from there, we go 
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protocol and we kind of walk 
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course of four to five months 
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they have and kind of go from 
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I feel like that's something 
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they think it's not that 
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It's so important. 
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difference that getting outside 
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natural sunlight and then, you 
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not getting exposed to so much 
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Like all of that stuff matters 
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Like, I almost see it as another
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sunlight is another type of 
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the wrong not too much sunlight,
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light at the wrong times or not 
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times can do so much damage. 
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all we ever had, right? 
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light bulbs and then we had the 
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have all these LED lights and, 
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these things like that. 
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thing to. 
It's like it's one of these 

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things that people always in the
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focused on these expensive 
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sunlight is free and like 
drinking clean water like can be

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a little challenging depending 
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impossible. 
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the countertop unit for 350 
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it and that's a great start to 
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But a lot of the women I talked 
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of knowledge about those things.
Like they know like something 

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that's good. 
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less caffeine is good. 
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should be fasting. 
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afternoon. 
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sun is starting to kind of go 
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consuming as fat. 
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throughout the day, you feel 
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high higher stress situation 
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middle of the day and you're not
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environment. 
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tell my clients, like you want 
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2:00 in the afternoon, Like just
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Have a full lunch and then maybe
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light dinner. 
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right? 
It's not overly complicated, but

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that that order of operations 
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twisted. 
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That it's like tuning your whole
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sun. 
It's not just like, OK, get your

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10 minutes of sun in the morning
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It's like how do we integrate 
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24 hour cycle with like the 
rhythm of the sun and that into 

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like so many facets. 
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cycle. 
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night, you'll wake up more 
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Like it literally effects 
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Like if you could just and and 
tune up the sun with with God's 

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creation like it will, it'll 
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start to focus on that simple 
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You work exclusively with women 
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What are some of the biggest 
problems and concerns that women

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come to you with? 
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stuff of, you know, a lot of 
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It's just like they have 
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You know, they've been told they
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they've been told that they have
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told they have Hashimoto's or, 
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And I think more times than not,
that stuff is not as important 

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to, to them as it is like, Hey, 
I don't feel well when I wake up

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or I have no energy to take care
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I've been working out really 
hard and I can't lose an an 

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ounce of weight. 
And I'm actually gaining weight 

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now and it's not muscle like I'm
getting flabbier or whatever 

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they say. 
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those kind of complaints and 
there's the big ones like, Hey, 

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I can't, I can't get pregnant. 
Like we're, you know, like my 

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husband, I've been trying, we're
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like, we want to have children 
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to, to get pregnant. 
Like those are the, the bigger 

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ones for me where I'm, I'm 
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about that because just losing 
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good thing. 
It's a, it's a good sign of 

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improving your health, but it's 
not the main focus, right? 

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Like that's not enough to 
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takes to kind of get your life 
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And I always tell clients it's 
like, if you're moving, imagine 

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like if you're moving on a train
track and you lose the brakes 

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and the things still going full 
steam ahead to, to, to stop that

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train takes a lot of effort. 
Like you got to like, you got to

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figure out what you're doing 
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You got to, you got to take some
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You got to get your circadian 
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You got to do all these things 
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And that's where it takes some 
time to get that momentum 

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shifted. 
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the right things, but they're 
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because they're not seeing the 
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They're doing like bits and 
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And I always tell them it's like
if you break your wrist and you 

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wear a cast, it's, it's if you 
take the cast off in the 

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weekends to go play basketball 
and you like put it back on and 

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you go to see the doctor and 
like, well, it's actually not 

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healing. 
You're like, well, what's what's

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going on with more of my cast? 
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well, you're not following the 
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following the right protocol for

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their healing. 
They're focused on doing healthy

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things. 
But it's not like a healing 

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protocol. 
It's just like AI eat kind of 

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healthy. 
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midnight to seven and like 
they're just missing like these 

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bits and pieces. 
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dial in like, what is it for, 
for them specifically and how 

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can they be consistent enough to
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In general, why do you think 
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stressed? 
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on feminism, you know, really, I
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feminism was good. 
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rights to vote and to make 
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obviously a good thing. 
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I'm not against women's rights. 
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when you start to prioritize 
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workforce and and kind of 
condemning staying at home with 

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your children and then get women
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encourage that. 
I think that's where we've kind 

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of shifted A hormonal problem. 
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of stress to to the issue. 
Hi. 

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So I think there's there's a 
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again, getting back to their 
stress to where if a woman is 

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having to do all these 
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normally didn't have to or do 
take care of the children and 

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take care of the household and 
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That's just a lot for anybody. 
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a female, but especially women 
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carry that load hormonally. 
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shift from progesterone and 
healthy estrogens to 

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testosterone and androgens, 
probably by design, because it 

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helps them to actually survive 
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More like a man. 
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increasing when women are living
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states where they're having to 
kind of like do do what 

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traditionally like men have 
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then also fulfill that role in 
the home. 

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Yeah, PCOS, that's kind of like 
a prime driver. 

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PCOS, there's a metabolic issue,
obviously there's a genetic 

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component. 
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it, you know, effects one in 
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And, you know, you start getting
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losing your cycle, you have 
issues with fertility, you start

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getting more testosterone 
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And to me, it's like a, it's an 
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not a good one, but it's a 
survival adaptation. 

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So it's actually kind of makes 
sense. 

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But I think that's why we're 
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women. 
Yeah, I feel this conversation 

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so deeply right now. 
This dog is visiting us. 

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Maybe we should drink our liver 
smoothies before. 

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Yeah. 
Before he does. 

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Before he does. 
Cheers. 

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Have you had raw liver before? 
Yeah, I've had it just like in 

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capsules, but not like chewed it
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And this is. 
Yeah, this is like just pure raw

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liver blended up with some 
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Berries and honey will cover a 
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That's really good. 
I feel a chunk in here and I'm 

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scared. 
I'm scared about whether or not 

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the Berry or a chunk of. 
Liver. 

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Chunk of liver. 
Oh. 

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My goodness. 
Either way, it's really good. 

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Good, it's. 
Awesome. 

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I'm glad you like it. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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I mean, I think about this a lot
because I I obviously, like, 

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have a brand, have a company. 
I also have three kids and it's 

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not easy. 
And people ask sometimes like, 

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how do you do it all? 
And it's like, well, I don't. 

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I mean, I drop balls all the 
time. 

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Like I wish I didn't, but that's
the reality. 

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And more so at work than at home
because I'd rather let work 

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stuff fall through the cracks 
and stuff with my family. 

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But yeah, I mean, I think I feel
such purpose in it that like my 

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husband and I made the decision 
that we see this as a calling 

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and something that I'm being 
called to do. 

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And I feel like God has allowed 
that to to happen by giving us 

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like the right help when we need
it, you know, around in the 

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household and then giving, 
giving me an amazing like team 

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to work with at primary pure. 
But I mean, I still feel at 

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times I was talking to you this 
morning before I started 

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recording about the the morning 
I had with balancing all that 

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stuff. 
And so it's not an easy thing. 

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And I definitely don't think 
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the workforce. 
It's not for everybody. 

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And it's, I think it's like it's
just you have to kind of choose,

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right? 
Like so for me and my wife, for 

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example, like she, she works 
extremely hard, like managing 

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our household and I work hard 
doing the business stuff. 

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Like, and we have there's 
crossover both that right? 

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Like I, I need to help out in 
the house and help with our kids

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and she has to help out business
stuff sometime. 

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But like as far as our primary 
responsibilities, like we have 

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roles that we fulfill. 
And I think for a lot of women 

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that maybe don't have a support 
person in their life or family 

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around them or a husband or 
whatever. 

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Like if you're a single mom 
where single moms are having a 

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lot of these health problems, 
it's like, well, no kidding. 

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Like they have nobody. 
And I think that's where that's 

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really all I'm trying to get 
people to think about is just 

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that there is a cost to the 
stuff like if you're not 

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sleeping, if you're not eating 
healthy, if you're not taking 

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the right supplements, if 
you're, if you're having mold 

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exposure in your house or 
whatever, like there's just a 

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consequence to your, to your 
health. 

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And so I think it doesn't mean 
that you can't work. 

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Like that's not what I'm trying 
to say. 

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It just means you have to 
understand that you can't do it 

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all. 
And like you can't, nobody's, 

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nobody's immune to the stuff. 
Like we just have to understand 

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that we need Sabbath and rest 
and we need to have, we need, we

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need help and support. 
That's really the biggest thing.

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Well, and I think there's so 
much value in taking care of 

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your body and like making like 
deposits in your, your health 

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bank per say, like by 
maintaining a healthy diet. 

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Like for me, that's one thing. 
Like there's some certain things

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that I won't budget on, like how
I eat, getting outside first 

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thing in the morning, getting a 
walk almost every single day 

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just to clear my head, move my 
body. 

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Like I think being consistent 
with that stuff will. 

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You know when the stressful 
things do happen, they wear on 

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you less when you are dialed in 
and the things that you can 

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control. 
Yeah, I always, I always tell my

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wife and I, we were traveling a 
few years ago with the kids and 

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we were both pretty stressed out
and we just decided to stop 

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drinking coffee. 
You know, like we love coffee, 

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but like not when it's adding 
more stress to your Physiology 

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and to your cells. 
It's like that's something that 

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we can control. 
And we can't always control all 

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the circumstances around us, but
you can control for the most 

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part what you eat, what you 
drink and how you, how you 

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sleep, you know, and so. 
Did you switch to like matcha or

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anything or just straight no 
caffeine? 

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No, I think we just said no 
caffeine. 

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I'm in that boat right now. 
Like I just switched from coffee

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to matcha and that was a big 
step for. 

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Me. 
That is big. 

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So I mean, I did have coffee 
this morning though, because I 

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felt like I needed it, but I'm 
trying, I'm trying to like shift

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in that we. 
Do like we do a third CAF option

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through purity coffee and what? 
Does that mean like 1/3 CAF? 

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It's a third caffeine. 
So instead of being decaf, it's 

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like a little bit of caffeine 
and it's probably it's like 50, 

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less than 50 milligrams of 
caffeine. 

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So a typical cup of coffee is 
like 140. 

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So it's a pretty substantial 
reduction and that helps out 

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quite a bit, you know, cuz I. 
You still get the ritual of it, 

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yeah. 
You get that's what a lot of 

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people complain about giving up 
as a ritual. 

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I'm like, well, you can have 
something else warm for me, I 

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did AI did a caffeine detox or 
just that fast, I guess you 

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would say. 
But I did it for like 5-6 days 

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just because I felt like it had 
more control over me than I had 

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over it. 
And I didn't like that. 

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And so I wanted to do that 
completely just for myself to 

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prove that I could. 
But I don't feel bad drinking 

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caffeine typically unless I have
just substantial amounts. 

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Like whenever we go traveling 
like we are now, I drink like 

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full strength caffeine and I 
feel it a lot faster than I do 

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when I'm at home drinking my 
third cap. 

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So I think I think anything less
than 50 milligrams, especially 

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for women that are having 
progesterone issues is a good 

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idea and do it after you have 
breakfast. 

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And if you do that, like, it 
really can help your hormones a 

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little bit more. 
Yeah, I've heard like you should

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wait 90 minutes from when you 
wake up and then also breakfast,

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obviously. 
But because of what you 

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mentioned earlier, the cortisol 
when you first wake up is it's 

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already at its peak. 
You don't need to add more. 

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But if you wait like 90 minutes 
and then have breakfast, it'll 

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it'll kind of like have a better
effect on your body. 

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Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

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Is there a difference in types 
of stress? 

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Because sometimes I feel like I 
feel heightened, I guess I feel 

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like in in somewhat of a 
heightened stressful state, but 

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it's like it feels positive. 
Like I'm excited about things 

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and I'm like just on and going. 
And I don't know. 

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Is there a difference in like 
purposeful stress where you're 

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like enjoying it almost versus 
like stress of just feeling 

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bogged down and behind and 
you're just overwhelmed and like

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spinning? 
Yeah, I think for sure. 

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I mean, there's you stress, 
which is like a positive form of

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stress. 
You know, I think what do you 

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call it Eustress? 
It's like you, it's just like, 

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it's like a, it's like a 
positive, positively reinforced 

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stress response within the 
system. 

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And so there's like adaptation, 
there's like hormesis, like 

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there's like a challenge that 
you're meeting. 

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And if you, if you can handle 
it, like I think I saw recent 

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doctor Pompe was talking about 
this actually, and that like 

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hormetic stress is like a good 
thing, right? 

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If you can handle the adaptation
requirements, a lot of women 

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that are in these stressful 
States and women on average 

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perceive stress like 40% higher 
than men. 

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And my, my theory is it makes a 
lot of sense to me at least. 

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But it's like if you, if you 
were just walking by yourself in

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a big city and, and you're just 
like not sure of your 

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surroundings and like who's 
going to try to take something 

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from you, like as a female, like
that would be more stressful 

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than it would be as a man. 
Like, just because like you'd be

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a little bit more vulnerable. 
So there's like a natural state 

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of like women are a little bit 
more protective. 

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And that's a good thing. 
Like you have children, Like if 

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you have children, like you're 
going to be more protective of 

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your children. 
You'll be more protective of 

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your own Physiology. 
So there's a naturally natural 

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higher perceived level of stress
from female to men. 

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But overall, a lot of women are 
engaging in stressful activities

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that are not beneficial. 
Like they're, they're like I 

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said, they're fasting, they're 
cutting too much caffeine, 

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they're exercising too 
intensely, especially around 

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their different phases of their 
cycle. 

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And so now all of a sudden it 
becomes a negative stress and 

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it's it's not helpful in terms 
of the adaptation that Hermesis 

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perspective. 
What are the biggest reasons 

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that women feel stuck when it 
comes to losing weight? 

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I mean, it kind of builds on 
what I was saying before. 

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I think there's a lot of these, 
there's some hidden issues that 

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they're not aware of. 
You know, like like I mentioned,

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mold briefly molds a huge 
problem that you know, I just 

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tested my 6 year old daughter 
and she has mold. 

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I don't even know it because we 
lived in Costa Rica for a little

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bit. 
We lived in, you know, some more

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humid climates and you know, she
got exposed to it. 

450
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,000
My wife is same thing. 
She's exposed to it and a lot of

451
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,400
it. 
If you don't test for it, you 

452
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,480
never know, right? 
And so mold is a big factor that

453
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,760
we could talk a while about, 
but. 

454
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,040
What does that do? 
Why does that make it 

455
00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:25,520
challenging for women to lose 
weight? 

456
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,080
It's it burdens your cell quite 
a bit. 

457
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,280
So in terms of your body 
detoxing molds very hard to 

458
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,360
detox. 
And so a lot of molds can mimic 

459
00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,560
estrogens and they can mimic 
other hormones to where it 

460
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,760
increases like endocrine 
activity. 

461
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,880
And so for a woman who's having 
imbalanced hormones with high 

462
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,080
estrogen and low progesterone, 
like that's, that's, you know, 

463
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,120
that's a catalyst for their 
hormonal distress. 

464
00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:52,480
And so that's a big one a lot of
women see without knowing it. 

465
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,360
And then other ones are, you 
know, heavy metals and, you 

466
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,600
know, a lot of the materials are
putting on their skin as you all

467
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,160
are very well aware of where 
they're applying 150 chemicals 

468
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,760
to their body every day. 
And those chemicals that go 

469
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,720
through your skin go right to 
your hormones, you know, and, 

470
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,000
and I think the moment just 
don't have that perspective to 

471
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,920
think about the overall toxic 
burden that they're adding to 

472
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,240
their system every single day. 
But thankfully. 

473
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,560
As a Hermosa study, you know, 
published several years ago 

474
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,560
showed that if you cut it out 
over the course of three days, 

475
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,120
it can be reduced by up to 45% 
just a short period of time. 

476
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,560
So like your body will actively 
get rid of that stuff, but you 

477
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,720
just have to stop applying it. 
So it's such an important thing 

478
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,160
to apply products like what you 
guys have because it's just 

479
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,640
helps to keep that toxic running
low. 

480
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,800
So toxins are a big one. 
We were talking with stressors 

481
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,680
and circadian rhythm and you 
know all that, but a lot of 

482
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,000
women have these thyroid issues 
because they're thyroid 

483
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,600
conversion of T4 and T3 gets 
blocked by stress. 

484
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,600
When you have high stress, you 
don't convert the active hormone

485
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,320
of T4 and T3 and then it can't 
get into your cell to help with 

486
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,080
metabolism and energy production
and, and weight loss. 

487
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,480
And you start feeling it little 
by little. 

488
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,160
But over the course of, you 
know, 5-10 years, it becomes a 

489
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,240
big problem. 
And so a lot of women blame it 

490
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,720
on their age, but really it's 
like you've been in a state of 

491
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,440
deficiency for a long period of 
time and you start seeing the 

492
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,800
fruit or lack of fruit from that
problem. 

493
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,160
And so that's where I always 
start with my clients. 

494
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,280
And then we've get focused more 
on like strategic intermittent 

495
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,800
fasting as they kind of 
progressed at our program. 

496
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,240
After we detox them from 
parasites and heavy metals and 

497
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800
mold, we then focus more on like
how do we get their metabolism 

498
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320
in a more optimal state once we 
know that it's no longer a 

499
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,280
stressor to have them exercise 
at a higher intensity or have 

500
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,440
them do fasting a little bit 
longer term. 

501
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,760
But we don't do that upfront 
because it's not productive at 

502
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,400
that point. 
Yeah, you have to get get 

503
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,520
healthy and get like balanced 
before your body is capable of 

504
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,800
handling that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

505
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,560
I always say first get healthy, 
then get fit. 

506
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,880
Yeah, Like people. 
Yeah. 

507
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:43,680
Like that's kind of a good 
perspective to have. 

508
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,200
And I think we always do the 
opposite. 

509
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,880
Like January 1st comes around, 
we hit the gym really hard, they

510
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,800
get injured, they get burned 
out, they don't recover well. 

511
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,760
And then they're like, I'm just 
not going to do this anymore 

512
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,160
because why bother? 
It's not working. 

513
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,080
The reality is like they weren't
healthy enough to start doing 

514
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,640
that kind of level intensity. 
How do you help women who are 

515
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,880
just like in it, whether it's a 
season of life, like a where 

516
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,160
there's not really much they can
do to change their circumstances

517
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,720
and they're doing the best they 
can with all the things that 

518
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,360
we've talked about? 
Like is there anything else that

519
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:16,040
people can do to, to kind of 
make the stress have less of an 

520
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720
impact, negative impact on them,
whether that's through 

521
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,680
supplementation or, I don't 
know, just any other little 

522
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,240
things and tweaks that women can
make? 

523
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,200
Yeah, so we I'll just kind of 
tell you what we do. 

524
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,360
So we we call it a diagnostic 
diet, but really it's an 

525
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,400
anti-inflammatory elimination 
style diet to where we walk them

526
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,200
through like what their immune 
triggers are. 

527
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,040
So we want to see like do eggs 
trigger you nightshades, the 

528
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,160
Gooms, grains, dairy, like those
big, big categories. 

529
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,240
And then we want to figure out 
like, what serves your body 

530
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,680
well, because if you're eating 
something that your immune 

531
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,360
system has identified as a 
foreign invader, like you don't 

532
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,480
want to be consuming that on a 
regular basis because that that 

533
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,280
causes that stress response, 
oxidative stress, inflammation. 

534
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,200
And so we want to make sure 
they're on the right diet. 

535
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,880
And again, most people after a 
couple weeks kind of get adapted

536
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,760
to that, where it's like you're 
eating Whole Foods that God has 

537
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,920
provided to us. 
You're not eating man made 

538
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,840
bioengineered foods. 
Like we're eating things that 

539
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,840
come from the earth that are, 
you know, clean, clean beef, 

540
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,600
clean animal protein. 
We make sure that they don't 

541
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,720
have it egg sensitivity because 
that's a big one. 

542
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,720
Unfortunately, flu vaccines kind
of ruin that for a lot of people

543
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,080
because they have the egg based 
proteins that can trigger immune

544
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,800
system response. 
Then when you eat those after 

545
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,480
the vaccine or even end your 
life, if you're still having 

546
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,080
issues with that, like you can 
have issues with eggs. 

547
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,160
And then there's also the. 
Conversation there's. 

548
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,840
Probably other vaccines too, but
I know the flu is a bigger one. 

549
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Yeah, I don't know. 
I'm not sure on that one, but I 

550
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,800
know there's probably other 
vaccines. 

551
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,200
It was pretty common there for a
while. 

552
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,400
I don't know if they're still 
doing it as much, but it was an 

553
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,560
issue. 
And then there's also just a 

554
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,560
conversation of like, where are 
the eggs coming from? 

555
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,080
Like what quality of the eggs, 
because you can have issues with

556
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560
other components of the egg, not
just whether or not it's an egg.

557
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,880
It's like about human protein 
can cause issues as well. 

558
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,440
So we want to figure that out. 
And once we get that kind of dot

559
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,800
on for diet, they usually start 
to feel more energetic because 

560
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,120
we're not, you know, potentially
attacking a thyroid with what 

561
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,120
they're consuming. 
You know, they're eating foods 

562
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,160
that are sustaining them and 
providing them an energy. 

563
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,560
We make sure they're actually 
digesting it well, digestive 

564
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,280
enzymes and addressing their 
stomach acid sufficiency, making

565
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,480
sure they actually have strong 
stomach acid, that they're 

566
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,680
eating in a calm environment, 
you know, very basic stuff. 

567
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,960
That one's hard. 
It's hard. 

568
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,840
It's. 
Hard for busy moms, yeah. 

569
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,960
Yeah, but all that's again, free
stuff. 

570
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,080
It's not, it's not that it's 
impossible, but it does take, it

571
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,200
takes enough of a conviction to 
understand that like that's 

572
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,160
going to make a difference for 
you to where you'll actually 

573
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,000
implement it. 
Because a lot of this is just 

574
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,280
information, right? 
Like if I just give you 

575
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,600
information over and over again 
and you don't do anything with 

576
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,080
it, it's pointless. 
Like if you guys are watching 

577
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,080
this and you're just like, Oh, 
that sounds cool, but don't 

578
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,120
actually apply it. 
Like this is a waste of your 

579
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:36,640
time, right? 
Like you have to actually go out

580
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,400
and like do these things and 
like do it long enough to know 

581
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,880
that it's that it's actually 
working. 

582
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,720
And if you're doing it and you 
start to see the fruit of your 

583
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,400
labor, you'll do more of it. 
I always use example like when 

584
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,440
women get pregnant, they may 
have like been drinking wine, 

585
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,200
you know, every every couple 
nights when they're not pregnant

586
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,760
and they get pregnant and 
they're like stop at cold 

587
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,120
Turkey, right? 
Like because they have a 

588
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,040
conviction and believe that like
that matters, right? 

589
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,280
So they stop doing it. 
If you don't believe that 

590
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,520
cutting some of these foods out 
or you know, taking vitamin D in

591
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,120
AB complex and magnesium and 
Omega threes is actually going 

592
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,280
to do anything for you or having
good consistent sleep, Like 

593
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,600
you're just going to do what's 
convenient. 

594
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,560
And like that's where you have 
to get at the heart of why 

595
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,000
somebody is doing what they're 
doing Because for most people, 

596
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,880
they have an ignorance issue. 
Like they're doing things they 

597
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,880
don't know that are causing 
problems. 

598
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,560
And then for other people they 
had, they're doing things that 

599
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,080
they know it's not good for 
them, but they do it anyway. 

600
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,560
And like both of those are not 
good. 

601
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,080
Like you have to address both 
those categories. 

602
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,240
So it always starts with the, 
with your, with your mind and 

603
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960
your, your why. 
And from there it kind of starts

604
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,840
to lead into like, how do you 
implement it consistently? 

605
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,760
Yeah. 
It's like a disciplining 

606
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480
yourself so that you can 
experience more freedom in how 

607
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,000
you feel. 
And it's hard at first, but then

608
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,880
once you start to feel better, 
it becomes something that you're

609
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,120
more and more and more willing 
to do and kind of keep, like 

610
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,080
fine tuning. 
Yeah. 

611
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:48,960
Absolutely. 
So there's other things that 

612
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,560
yeah, I mean, I always, I always
want to make sure I kind of 

613
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,360
know, like are you taking? 
Yeah, like for me, AB complex is

614
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:54,920
huge. 
I think that most of them need 

615
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,600
to be on B complex. 
Is there? 

616
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,000
One that you recommend. 
I like thorns basic B complex. 

617
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,800
There's other ones too. 
I usually just look at what they

618
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,400
own and there's like other 
brands out there. 

619
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,840
But if it has non synthetic B 
vitamins in it then like all 

620
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,720
usually recommend that one. 
A lot of so I think women on 

621
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,200
average have MTHFR more often 
than men. 

622
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,360
Which MTHFR if I have explained 
it or not? 

623
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:22,560
It's basically a polymorphism 
that happens within your genes 

624
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,240
and these guys are like wanting 
to learn more. 

625
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,960
I know they're really interested
in this MTHFR conversation. 

626
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,440
But it's, it's something that 
affects a lot of people, right? 

627
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,240
And so it's a very simple fix. 
But if you have it, you don't, 

628
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520
you don't methylate, which 
happens about 300 billion times 

629
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,760
a day, right? 
So it's a very ongoing process 

630
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,800
that effects insomnia and 
anxiety and ADHD and poor sleep 

631
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,440
and poor energy, poor 
detoxification. 

632
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,720
And there's a lot of like spin 
offs that can happen from this 

633
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,800
if you don't do this methylation
process well. 

634
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,880
So it's a very simple fix in the
sense that you can take a 

635
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,120
methylated to be complex and it 
can really help a lot of women 

636
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,880
just with their cycles, with 
their energy, with their detox, 

637
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,160
with with even weight loss 
sometimes with sleeping better 

638
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,240
for taking it the right time of 
day. 

639
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,000
But there are some caveats 
there. 

640
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,240
So like if you have comp T for 
example, and you don't have an 

641
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,520
issue with catecholamines, which
are like dopamine, orbinephrine,

642
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,120
epinephrine, if you don't, if 
you don't clear those out of 

643
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,240
your system very well, like you 
can be kind of like in an 

644
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,200
anxious state often. 
So you do want to kind of make 

645
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,240
sure you know what your issues 
are and you can do a gene test 

646
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840
to see these, but you can do 
MTHFR tests, you can do a comp T

647
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840
test, and you can just see like 
where your issues are. 

648
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720
And it's very relatively simple 
fix if you kind of get that 

649
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,640
information understood. 
So I always like to deal with my

650
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,120
clients. 
If you're getting enough liver, 

651
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,960
do you need AB complex still? 
I it's probably not, I mean, 

652
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,320
this is where things get a 
little bit challenging because 

653
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760
not challenging, but like, I 
think there's some nuance there.

654
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,240
You know, I think, I think liver
is fantastic when you get like 

655
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,720
the natural raw form of these D 
vitamins in the way that our 

656
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,840
bodies are made to intake them. 
For some people, you know, they 

657
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,240
may say it's harder to get that 
access to that and it's easier 

658
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,120
for them. 
They could be complex and I 

659
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,640
would say. 
That's definitely, definitely 

660
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,280
not. 
Easy. 

661
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,720
A little more complicated. 
And not always tasty, but you 

662
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,640
can hide it. 
Yeah. 

663
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,760
So I think, I think there's some
like there's some new answer 

664
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,480
with that question. 
I would say it's always best to 

665
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,200
get it through food. 
And if they can't and if it's 

666
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,680
not working well enough, then 
it's like you might as well, you

667
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,680
can take it, be complex and 
you're going to pee out, you 

668
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,200
know what you don't need. 
And because they're water 

669
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,400
soluble so it's not like you're 
going to go toxic unless you're 

670
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,320
taking significant loads of B6. 
But for most part most people 

671
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,520
don't have issues with that. 
So B complex usually works 

672
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,160
pretty well. 
What's your take on bioidentical

673
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,080
hormones for women? 
It's a common question I just 

674
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,040
discussed yesterday with my my 
community group. 

675
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,320
But my answer is always you want
to, you want to address the 

676
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960
foundational principles first. 
If you're, if you're going into 

677
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,200
bioidentical hormone replacement
therapy with the idea that like 

678
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,160
that's all you have to do to 
solve your problems, like it's 

679
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,520
not going to solve your problems
long term. 

680
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640
It's going to be a short term 
solution, maybe a year or two. 

681
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,560
And the next thing you know, 
you're going to start having 

682
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,640
higher dosage or the 
continuation of your old 

683
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,440
problems. 
So I think it's a good tool to 

684
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,560
optimize your hormones. 
If you have micronized 

685
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160
progesterone and you have like 
an estrogen patch like that at a

686
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,840
low dose, like it can be a 
useful tool. 

687
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320
But I think for a lot of women, 
they don't fix their circadian 

688
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,040
rhythm, they don't fix their 
diet, they don't address any 

689
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,960
other deficiencies, they don't 
dress or detoxification needs, 

690
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,800
and they start having these 
issues pop right back up. 

691
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,680
So yeah, I think so a lot of 
women use biotinical hormone 

692
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,040
replacement therapy as like 
their only solution to solving 

693
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,640
their problems. 
And I think that's that's where 

694
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,440
the problem comes in my 
perspective. 

695
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,000
Obviously using like just 
synthetic hormone replacement 

696
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,840
therapy is a different topic. 
It's not nearly as beneficial. 

697
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,680
There still can be some benefit 
for a postmenopausal woman that 

698
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,160
has low estrogen that just needs
to get our estrogen levels up 

699
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360
for like our bone health and 
preventing some cancers and 

700
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000
things like that. 
But for the most part, a lot of 

701
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,280
women are using it during 
perimenopause States and they're

702
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,560
trying to use it as a Band-Aid 
to cover up a bullet wound. 

703
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,800
And it's like you have to 
address the foundational issues 

704
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,440
first that I've been talking 
about this whole time of 

705
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,360
circadian rhythm and your 
detoxification and your 

706
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440
deficiencies and all those 
things. 

707
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,880
And if you do that, then you can
figure out what your optimal 

708
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,640
dose of the hormone could be, if
you even need it. 

709
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,160
A lot of my clients that are 
already taking it, they end up 

710
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,960
reducing the dose or get off of 
it because they just find it's 

711
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,600
not useful. 
And it's also kind of expensive.

712
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,080
And so for some women that want 
to keep taking it, they can use 

713
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,240
it as like an optimization tool,
but it's not like a life saving 

714
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,640
drug they have to take to kind 
of just get through their day or

715
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,880
sleep, you know? 
So yeah, that's how I think 

716
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,360
about it. 
If you were ever diagnosed with 

717
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,240
cancer, what would you do and 
what would you not do? 

718
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Oh man. 
So for me, I would not do chemo 

719
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,480
radiation. 
That would be my initial stance.

720
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,280
I would do everything my power 
to treat it naturally. 

721
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,360
I, I've talk to some really 
brilliant people that they, they

722
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000
don't use the C word when it 
comes to cancer. 

723
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880
And not like I've actually 
curing cancer. 

724
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,080
Cuz if you say curing cancer, 
like you get thrown in jail 

725
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,560
potentially. 
And so there's like 

726
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,280
ramifications to your verbiage 
and how you talk about it. 

727
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680
But I would first ensure that 
I'm doing kind of what I'm 

728
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,560
already doing, You know, I just 
kind of continue it. 

729
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320
That would be very strict about 
my carbon take. 

730
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,680
I would be a lot more 
restrictive on kind of the the 

731
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,760
time of fasting that I do. 
I fast a bit longer periods. 

732
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,520
I probably do like 3 day water 
fast. 

733
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,280
And can you explain why that's 
beneficial for cancer? 

734
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Yeah, it's so whenever you get 
into a long term fast, your body

735
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160
starts to kind of eat up the 
damaged cells at the top of GS 

736
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,880
kind of the term. 
It helps to kind of go after 

737
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720
these things that would not be 
beneficial to your cellular 

738
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,240
health. 
And so not eating food, though 

739
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,560
it sounds kind of counter 
intuitive, can actually be very 

740
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,200
useful in terms of your 
Physiology because your body's 

741
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,760
not having to use that energy to
digest food. 

742
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,480
It's like it can focus on doing 
other things. 

743
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Granted, you wouldn't want to do
this all the time if you're 

744
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,240
living a busy life and trying to
take care of your family. 

745
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Like you have to use the energy 
to like, you know, feel what 

746
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,040
you're doing. 
But I would first I would focus 

747
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,520
on that. 
I'd do like long term water 

748
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720
fast. 
I'd be very intentional about 

749
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800
parasite cleanses. 
And this is where people get 

750
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,360
kind of crazy about cancer and 
parasites, but they do have a 

751
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,320
role in your immune system. 
And I think a lot of people get,

752
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,640
they say it's like a fringe 
science. 

753
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,040
But if you look at parasites and
how they can disrupt TH-1 cells,

754
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,800
which are responsible for 
pathogens, in my mind, it's like

755
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,520
if you are getting a, a immune 
cell to not pay attention to a 

756
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,880
pathogen, you're, you're likely 
to have more issues with 

757
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280
metastasis or like a spread of 
cancer cells. 

758
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360
And then it gets your cells then
focus on TH-2 cells. 

759
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,880
And those are more like 
autoimmune focused cells. 

760
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,880
And so it kind of up ramps or up
folk or up regulates your 

761
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,280
autoimmune reactivity. 
So your body's like attacking 

762
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,760
itself. 
So that and that in my mind 

763
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,920
killing parasites would be a 
foundational step, which again, 

764
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,080
I do that my protocol already 
with our clients, but. 

765
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,440
What do you use for parasites? 
We use a combination of 

766
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,120
different products. 
We kind of walk them through. 

767
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,320
It's a four phase process and 
it's like a humic and phobic 

768
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,440
acid base product with some 
carbon technology. 

769
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,480
But essentially we'll use things
like I'm drawing, like Black 

770
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Walnut Hall will use Wormwood 
and things like that and those 

771
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,440
products. 
But we kind of get them ready to

772
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,520
go through that during the first
month so they don't go right 

773
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,080
into a parasite cleanse because 
a lot of people jump right into 

774
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680
a detox and they start feeling 
the detox symptoms and they feel

775
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,760
terrible. 
So we want to make sure we kind 

776
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,200
of set them up for the right, 
right process, but. 

777
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Yeah. 
And right now the parasite and 

778
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,960
cancer connection, like you 
mentioned, it is kind of fringe.

779
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,920
But even the AMA, I've seen 
stuff where they have 

780
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,080
acknowledged that certain 
parasites can contribute to 

781
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800
certain types of cancer. 
Like my friend Taylor Dukes had 

782
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,320
a brain tumor and the type that 
of brain tumor she had, the AMA 

783
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,800
said was linked to a certain 
parasite that she had picked up 

784
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,920
in Africa. 
I didn't know that about her. 

785
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,640
I think it's becoming more more 
common knowledge, but but maybe 

786
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,880
not not among the like 
traditional cancer and oncology 

787
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,400
world. 
What's crazy is there's a study 

788
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,920
back in 1952 that was done by 
the US government that showed 

789
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,000
that cancers and parasites were 
connected, intimately connected.

790
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,120
And so a lot of people think 
that when you look at a tumor, 

791
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,680
and again, this is like, this is
what I've heard, this is not 

792
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,760
necessary in my opinion, but 
they think that a lot of tumors 

793
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,800
are encapsulation of parasites. 
You know, like you start seeing 

794
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,400
like the body's protecting you 
from what's happening and so 

795
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,840
encapsulates it in the tumor. 
And when you start to do a 

796
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,640
biopsy and you open that up, you
could theoretically increase 

797
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,159
your risk of spreading or have 
metastasis of that cancer. 

798
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,320
So again, don't come after me 
for saying that. 

799
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,760
That's just what I've read and 
heard and not necessarily true, 

800
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,840
but that's what I've been told 
by people like John Richardson, 

801
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,360
who's his dad was a doctor back 
in the 70s and 60s. 

802
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,480
That was actually like reversing
cancer diagnosis and doing the C

803
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040
word. 
And they came after him and took

804
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,040
his license away and he was 
using apricot seeds and 

805
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,239
pancreatic enzymes to do that. 
And so they do that now with 

806
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,239
their company RNC and apricot 
seeds they use it's like 

807
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,840
controlled slow release of a low
dose of cyanide, which cyanides 

808
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,800
obviously like gotten a bad rap 
because it can kill you. 

809
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,400
It's high dose. 
But cyanide released through an 

810
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,800
apricot seed or other seeds that
come from the earth can be very 

811
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,280
helpful. 
And I think this is where, 

812
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,760
biblically speaking, God says to
eat of every, you know, sea 

813
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,520
bearing plant. 
And you know, what is it every 

814
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,320
sea bearing plant? 
And you should look this up in 

815
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,720
the actual verse, but it's 
there's a. 

816
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:04,280
Verse in Genesis, I think. 
Genesis 9 or 29. 

817
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,680
But anyway, like God gives us 
these things to the earth, 

818
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,800
right? 
And so I think seeds are very 

819
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,360
helpful. 
Oftentimes we're eating D seeded

820
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,560
fruits and veggies because like 
we've been told that they're not

821
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,400
necessary, but I think there's 
actually a huge component there,

822
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,240
but. 
Yeah, like genetically modified,

823
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,080
like watermelons that are made 
to be seedless because the seeds

824
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,520
aren't convenient. 
But if you look at a like a 

825
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,040
watermelon that hasn't been 
genetically modified, it's full 

826
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,520
of full of black seeds and 
doesn't have much of the fruit. 

827
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,920
Yeah, bananas aren't the same 
thing. 

828
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,480
And so we're eating all these 
genetically modified foods. 

829
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,120
But I would I would do apricot 
seeds. 

830
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Is it the cyanide or is it the 
B17? 

831
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,040
So B17 is amygdalin or Leitrill 
is the two different terms that 

832
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,200
people use. 
And then that that one, since 

833
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,200
it's in your cell or in your 
body, I think releases a small 

834
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,480
dose of cyanide. 
And most cells have in the body 

835
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,160
have Rodinase. 
And I hope I'm not getting this 

836
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,040
wrong. 
It's been a while since I've 

837
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,440
read this, but we have Rodinase,
which helps to protect us from 

838
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,120
the cyanide, but it kills cancer
cells. 

839
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,080
And so if you do that with 
pancreatic enzymes, that will 

840
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,160
help to actually again, 
allegedly degrade the the tumor 

841
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,840
and help your body to deliver 
this into the cell or into the 

842
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600
cancer tumor, cancerous tumor to
kind of kill it and bite it off.

843
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880
So that's that's one theory, but
I would I would do that. 

844
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,640
I actually have B17 in a 
microzomal form that I take and.

845
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,720
Is that legal in the USB 17? 
I heard it wasn't. 

846
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,960
It's a supplement, so I mean, I,
I get it. 

847
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,400
So hopefully it's. 
OK, you'll have to share your 

848
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,000
source with me, yeah. 
I'll share your source, but. 

849
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,720
I've tried the apricot seeds and
they're they're terrible. 

850
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,760
Yeah, they're bitter, 
disgusting. 

851
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,440
I've gotten two different kinds,
and the first kind I got, they 

852
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,200
were the sweet ones. 
I'm like, oh, these are amazing.

853
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,440
Like. 
And then I, I, I think 

854
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,840
researched a little bit more and
found out that that wasn't the 

855
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,640
right. 
Type. 

856
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,640
They should be pretty bitter. 
Yeah, and the bitter ones are 

857
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,480
they're hard to get down. 
Yeah, I think that's why they 

858
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,920
have them in pill form or you 
can take them microzomily now. 

859
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,960
But yeah, anyway, so that that's
something I would do amongst 

860
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,000
other things, but I would, I 
would definitely not go the 

861
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,400
conventional route for me 
personally. 

862
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,240
Genesis 129. 
What does it say? 

863
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Says And God said, Behold, I 
have given you every plant 

864
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,280
yielding seed that is on the 
face of all the earth, and every

865
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,360
tree with seed and its fruit, 
you shall have them for food. 

866
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:11,760
OK, and look up what what it 
says in Genesis about eating the

867
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
beasts of the land or something 
like that. 

868
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,080
Post the flood, it says every 
moving thing that lives shall be

869
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,040
food for you, and as I gave you 
the green plants, I give you 

870
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,920
everything. 
OK, so this brings up us into my

871
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,000
next question. 
This isn't technically like a 

872
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,160
Christian podcast. 
Primal Appear is not a Christian

873
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,760
brand, but I'm a Christian, I'm 
the founder or Christian. 

874
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,800
And so I want to get into some 
of this, some of these questions

875
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,480
about the faith that we share 
because you are one of the few 

876
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,800
doctors who are openly talking 
about health from a biblical 

877
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,720
perspective. 
In your opinion, what is the 

878
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,320
most biblically optimized way of
eating? 

879
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920
And I mean, I think kind of 
those verses that he referenced 

880
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,160
like is a good, a good way to 
think about it. 

881
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,800
So you could, you could say 
everything that moves on the 

882
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,720
earth, like in Genesis 9 or 
whatever it was like was saying 

883
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,720
that that's OK after the flood. 
But then you could also look at 

884
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,880
Leviticus and Levitical law and 
you could see that, you know, 

885
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,840
like shellfish and pork and all 
those things are not clean 

886
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560
because they are more prone to 
parasites and they're not a 

887
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,080
clean substance of or source of 
food. 

888
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,320
So I think you can get kind of 
religious about it, but then if 

889
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,720
you also look in like Matthew, I
think you were, you know, 

890
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,600
they're talking about like all 
things are permissible, you 

891
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,200
know, like if you're going to 
different culture and they eat a

892
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,840
certain way, like it's not 
against the law to do that 

893
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,640
anymore, especially since Christ
came. 

894
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,840
But I think for us, we have like
this different framework we have

895
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,040
to look through like it's not as
simple as like, is bread good 

896
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,600
for you or not? 
It's like, well, what kind of 

897
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,800
bread? 
Like is it EIN corn flour or is 

898
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,240
it hybridized wheat? 
Like if it's hybridized wheat, 

899
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:42,560
like I would say it's not good 
for you. 

900
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,720
Like it's, it's a foreign 
substance when it comes into our

901
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,200
body. 
Like our bodies aren't used to 

902
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,400
identifying that. 
If you're eating like sourdough 

903
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,120
and like naturally fermented 
flour or like iron corn flour, 

904
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,640
like that's going to serve you 
pretty well. 

905
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Same thing with like dairy. 
Like if it's conventionally 

906
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,320
erased dairy, it doesn't do very
well. 

907
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,840
Like it's, it doesn't have the, 
the digestive enzymes, it 

908
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,800
doesn't have the, it doesn't 
help your body doesn't break it 

909
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,120
down nearly as well as it could 
unless it's like raw dairy. 

910
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Like you can break it down a lot
better. 

911
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200
It's not more prone. 
It's not as prone to causing 

912
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,920
like, lactose issues and all 
that kind of stuff. 

913
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,320
So it really is like, this is 
where it becomes so confusing 

914
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,200
for people and they're like, 
well, what do I do? 

915
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,800
I'm like, well, if you can get 
back to as much of the natural 

916
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,760
form of it as possible, like 
that's always going to be 

917
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,000
probably a much better option 
than what we're being fed where 

918
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,040
it's bioengineered. 
Yeah. 

919
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,520
So I would say, like the big 
ones would be, yeah, like if 

920
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,720
you're looking at pork or 
shellfish, like biblically 

921
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:34,400
speaking, like those, those 
would not be healthy foods no 

922
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,800
matter how they're kind of 
raised. 

923
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,480
Even though I like bacon, I love
bacon. 

924
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,400
It's great. 
It's hard. 

925
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,280
We have a local person we use 
and like I've seen how the cow 

926
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,520
or the pigs are taken care of 
and it's like, actually, it's 

927
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,480
probably as good as it can be 
done, but they're still like, 

928
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
they're the detox organ of this,
of this ground, right? 

929
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,440
And so like they're doing that 
for, for the, the ground. 

930
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,320
But I think a lot of people we 
get conventionally raised bacon 

931
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,480
and conventionally raised pork 
and or beef and it's just, it's 

932
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,680
hard. 
Like it's a, it's a hard 

933
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,840
conversation, but biblically 
speaking, I would say. 

934
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,120
Seeds leaves, but believe it or 
not, I think Josh acts as in the

935
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,720
podcast of his lately and he'd 
has like this whole biblio diet 

936
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,440
thing and they have this whole 
him and Jordan Rubin have this 

937
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,200
whole conversation about this 
topic on like what is the 

938
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,440
biblical diet look like? 
And I think they do a really 

939
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,720
good job of explaining like a 
biblical perspective on like how

940
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,360
not to be religious about what 
you're consuming, but also being

941
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,160
intentional about what you're 
eating because I think there is 

942
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,400
a difference to where it can be 
fruitful and helpful for you. 

943
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,560
And just like the apricot seeds,
like there are things that you 

944
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,720
can consume that can keep you 
healthier longer and promote 

945
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:37,840
longevity. 
So I don't know, like I'm not 

946
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,320
sure if it's a good answer, but 
that's how I think. 

947
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,440
No, that's good. 
Are the leaves, you think, more 

948
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,960
medicinal or more meant to be 
included in our everyday diets? 

949
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,760
I think they'd probably be more 
medicinal. 

950
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,440
It could be more of like a 
ongoing prevention prophylactic 

951
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,880
tool. 
I think to like, I know Josh Axe

952
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,480
was talking about how he had a 
friend, I think that had some 

953
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,840
kind of cancer and he would, he 
would blend up and like boil 

954
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,520
like 12 different kinds of 
leaves and he would drink it as 

955
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,960
a tea and it reversed his 
condition. 

956
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,480
So I don't think he did anything
else except for that. 

957
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,800
So there's, there's some crazy 
cases out there, I'm sure. 

958
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,120
But I think, you know, in 
general, most people, they focus

959
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,600
too much on, I think fear is 
probably the biggest source of 

960
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,480
people's disease, just being 
fearful rather than like, you 

961
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,480
know, wheat or dairy. 
But like, those things matter 

962
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,000
too. 
But fear is a bigger problem, I 

963
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,600
think, for a lot of people. 
When it comes to bread, I've 

964
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,680
heard people say that it's 
biblical to eat bread because 

965
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,880
bread is referenced so many 
times in the Bible. 

966
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Jesus calls himself the bread of
life. 

967
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,160
This is one that I struggle 
with. 

968
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000
I'm not a big bread person, I 
just feel way better when I 

969
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,160
don't have it in my diet, even 
like high quality breads. 

970
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,880
And I'm not against them 
necessarily but I just I don't 

971
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,480
feel like I need them personally
and I think a lot of people 

972
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,440
might do better without 
including them. 

973
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,560
So what I'm thinking is that's 
more like descriptive of the 

974
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,360
culture. 
It's more of like a cultural 

975
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,720
reference with with some meaning
behind it rather than a 

976
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,440
prescription on what to eat. 
What's your take? 

977
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,960
So I, I have my clients cut out 
all grains when they first start

978
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,600
with me just so I know how they 
do with it. 

979
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,480
You know, you don't know how 
you're doing until you feel 

980
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,040
better. 
So if you feel better, then we 

981
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,040
can bring things back in. 
But if you just cut out bread 

982
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,200
and nothing else, that could be 
a problem. 

983
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,000
You just don't know how you're, 
if you're going to feel better. 

984
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,840
And so I want to make sure my 
clients feel really well within 

985
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,200
like the first three to four 
weeks. 

986
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,280
And then once we know, we start 
to address the reasons that they

987
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,640
could be sensitive to some of 
these things. 

988
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,520
Like do they have actually a 
celiac issue to where they have 

989
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,400
a a true allergy to it to some 
to the, to the gluten protein 

990
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,600
itself? 
If they don't, then it comes 

991
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,200
down to like the quality of it 
and how often they're consuming 

992
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,760
it and if they have good 
digestive enzymes and you know, 

993
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,720
if they're good strong stomach 
acid, all those different 

994
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:48,200
factors. 
So for me, it's kind of relative

995
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480
to the person. 
But I would say if you want to 

996
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,360
get to feeling better, you have 
to cut out American wheat. 

997
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Like you have to cut out the 
folic acid, you have to cut out 

998
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,320
the bromated oils, You have to 
cut out these things that. 

999
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,920
The glyphosate sprayed all. 
Over the we know those things 

1000
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,760
are not good for you. 
So like that's for that's an 

1001
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,320
easy place to start. 
And if you want to, if you start

1002
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,800
feeling better, if anyone want 
to introduce something I would 

1003
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,200
introduce like an EIN corn flour
option or some sourdough because

1004
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,840
it's going to be naturally less 
glutinous than would be regular 

1005
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,720
bread. 
Why do you think so many 

1006
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,840
Christians downplay the 
importance of physical health 

1007
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,720
and vitality? 
I mean, they don't get, I think 

1008
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:27,760
every week they go to church, 
they don't get that, that 

1009
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,520
conviction from the pulpit, you 
know, like they're not getting 

1010
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,720
called to that level of life. 
I think, I think we use it. 

1011
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,360
I think because we have so much 
freedom in the gospel to like 

1012
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,280
that we're not, we're not trying
to be religious in what we're 

1013
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,560
doing. 
So we, I think we kind of, 

1014
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,160
you're on the other side of that
extreme of like, well, I'm not 

1015
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,040
going to hold any law or hold 
any kind of religious thing that

1016
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,240
makes me feel like I'm just 
trying to earn my way into 

1017
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,880
heaven or something. 
And I think that kind of goes 

1018
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,280
into our health. 
And so people kind of use the 

1019
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Ecclesiastes mentality of like, 
it's all meaningless under the 

1020
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,120
sun and like God's going to come
and rescue us and pull us off 

1021
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,520
the rooftop, just like in 
Vietnam. 

1022
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,240
And like, we don't really need 
to be doing anything. 

1023
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,640
And I kind of disagree with that
a lot. 

1024
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,800
And I think that we are called 
to take dominion over our family

1025
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,040
and over our community and like 
to be pioneers and leaders in 

1026
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,560
all areas of life and our 
finances and our health and how 

1027
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,640
we raise our kids. 
And I think we don't want to 

1028
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,720
make it an idol at the same 
time, like we don't make our 

1029
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,200
health and idol because that's 
not good either. 

1030
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,240
But it's also not meaningless. 
And so I kind of view it as, and

1031
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:27,880
I've used this, I've told the 
story several times in a 

1032
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,200
podcast, but we're building a 
sandcastle just yesterday at 

1033
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,840
Mission Beach. 
And my kids were like working on

1034
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,520
it for so long. 
This huge tie came to wash it 

1035
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,960
all out. 
And, and I was like, you know, 

1036
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,200
that that's like an example of 
life. 

1037
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,960
Like we, we start working on 
something in the early in the 

1038
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,120
morning, we start building it up
and make it look amazing and 

1039
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,760
impressive. 
And then like at some point a 

1040
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,440
huge tie is going to come in to 
wash it all out. 

1041
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,280
And like, that's like our life. 
It's like we die and it's all 

1042
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,120
over. 
But it doesn't mean like 

1043
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,440
building that castle is 
meaningless. 

1044
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Like it still had value and it 
still was teaching us something.

1045
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,880
So I think the way that we live 
our life, it means a lot because

1046
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,120
we are we are filled with the 
Holy Spirit if you're a 

1047
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,520
Christian and that gives you a 
superpower to like be more self 

1048
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,600
controlled and disciplined and 
slow to anger and be filled with

1049
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,000
peace, which are all things that
if you don't have that, like 

1050
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,560
you're going to have a really 
hard time being healthy. 

1051
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,280
So I think a lot of Christians 
that struggle with their health 

1052
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,680
and probably you're struggling a
lot of things in life, you know,

1053
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,400
it's not just their health. 
Like it's just kind of a you 

1054
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,320
just you just see it more more 
obviously than you would 

1055
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,720
something else. 
I think a lot of pastors, they 

1056
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,320
don't, maybe they don't practice
what they preach. 

1057
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,800
I don't know, Maybe they feel 
like it's they don't want to 

1058
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,560
assign themselves to particular 
camp or like be divisive. 

1059
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,680
But I feel like health is such a
foundation requirement for the 

1060
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,640
Christian to be, and I think we 
could be the healthiest people 

1061
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,840
in the world. 
I love that and I think that I 

1062
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,120
totally agree. 
I think that we were called to 

1063
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,800
steward our bodies and our 
bodies are a temple of the Holy 

1064
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Spirit. 
And I think it's just a cool way

1065
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,000
of like partnering with God and 
what his will is for our lives. 

1066
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,480
And so when we choose to eat 
better and when we choose to 

1067
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,200
take care of ourselves better, 
we can do what he's calling us 

1068
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,800
to do more effectively. 
So it's like a a partnership I 

1069
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,240
think is how I see it. 
Well, yeah, and if you look at 

1070
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:08,800
that verse and 1st Corinthians 
something, and I'm sure they 

1071
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,040
could look it up too, but First 
Corinthians 6, 13 or something, 

1072
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,280
you know, it says like our 
bodies are not our own, 

1073
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920
therefore therefore glorify God 
in your in your body. 

1074
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,760
It's like it's not even my my 
body, you know. 

1075
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,880
So it's like it's just a 
perspective and it's a belief 

1076
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,880
issue, I think. 
Back to the topic of food, you 

1077
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,800
talked a little bit about raw 
milk earlier. 

1078
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:30,600
Does raw milk help the immune 
system to function better? 

1079
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,360
So I don't, I think the right 
answer for me is I don't know. 

1080
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Obviously I'm not studying that 
all the time. 

1081
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,840
I think in my experience, I 
understand that there's 

1082
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,640
immunoglobulin benefits from 
consuming raw milk versus 

1083
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,480
conventional dairy. 
And so like there's a difference

1084
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,200
there for sure. 
Also just when you, when you 

1085
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,040
pasteurize milk and you, you 
heat it up and denature a lot of

1086
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,680
the benefits of that, you lose a
lot of that beneficial fat and 

1087
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,760
fat super antimicrobial. 
So I think there's a lot of 

1088
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,320
benefits to consuming raw milk 
versus pasteurized as I was 

1089
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,080
saying before. 
But as far as immunoglobulins, I

1090
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,760
know that there's different 
companies out there that we use 

1091
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,240
like colostrum as like a, a 
health supplement. 

1092
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,160
Personally, if I have clients on
that while they're going through

1093
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,560
at least my protocol, I, I take 
them off it just to make sure 

1094
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,920
that they don't have issues with
dairy. 

1095
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,320
If once we get them beyond that 
and they want to bring it back 

1096
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,280
in, we can do that. 
So I just don't know enough to 

1097
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,440
say like yes or no on that. 
But that's just, you know, 

1098
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,760
that's how I think about the 
dairy. 

1099
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Aspect of it. 
I interviewed an Amish raw milk 

1100
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,480
farmer last week, and I asked 
him when the last time he was 

1101
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,160
that he had been sick and he 
couldn't remember. 

1102
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,520
I mean, they're doing a lot of 
things right, So it may not be 

1103
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,400
just the raw milk, but. 
I think it helps though. 

1104
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,440
Yeah, I've I've noticed a 
difference in myself and my kids

1105
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,040
since we've been drinking it for
the last couple of years. 

1106
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,560
Yeah, that's cool. 
What are some of the unexpected 

1107
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,160
health benefits of baking soda? 
Baking soda is interesting. 

1108
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,400
I mean, I think it's a great 
neutralizer of acid. 

1109
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,200
So you know, your body is very 
good at regulating your pH and 

1110
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,480
your blood if it didn't like you
would die pretty quick. 

1111
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,200
So I think people often think 
they can, if they're like they 

1112
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,960
need to be more alkaline and 
less acidic. 

1113
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,800
And there's some truth to that. 
But I think there's, there's 

1114
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,200
probably a little bit more 
emphasis on, there's probably a 

1115
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680
little bit more fringe ideas 
there than there are true 

1116
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,080
science. 
I think for people that the, the

1117
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,400
science has shown that it can 
help with like post recovery 

1118
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,440
from exercise, like you can help
to improve sprinting distance or

1119
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,920
duration by like 5% is what one 
study showed. 

1120
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,800
So that's, that's not like 
meaningless, like there is some 

1121
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,120
benefit there. 
There's a great benefit for your

1122
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,800
like oral health and like 
neutralizing bacteria and it can

1123
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,800
be a great antifungal for like 
topical treatments and things 

1124
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,600
like that. 
We use it in our deodorant, 

1125
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,240
yeah. 
Deodorant helps to combat odor, 

1126
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,560
That's great for that. 
I think you got to be careful of

1127
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,000
how much you're consuming. 
Like you only need like 1/4 of a

1128
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,440
teaspoon to like 1/2 of a 
teaspoon if you're going to be 

1129
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,280
drinking it. 
And that'll help to alkalize the

1130
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,920
body, yes. 
But you got to be careful if 

1131
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,480
you're doing it after a meal or 
before a meal, because that will

1132
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,720
reduce your stomach acidity, 
which is not a good thing. 

1133
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,600
So you got to use it wisely and 
not just blanketly. 

1134
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,960
But yeah, I think there are some
benefits. 

1135
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,520
There, I like taking it right 
before bed. 

1136
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,320
I feel like it calms me and I 
don't do it every night but when

1137
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,520
I do I notice a. 
Difference. 

1138
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,760
That's yeah, for sure. 
Why should we avoid cooking red 

1139
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,520
meat at high temperatures? 
Well, I mean, the big one is 

1140
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,840
just it oxidizes to where it 
produces these AG ES were are 

1141
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,160
advanced glycation and products 
which basically cause like 

1142
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,480
endothelial inflammation in your
blood vessels and can also cause

1143
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,400
like DNA damage. 
And so if you're if you're like 

1144
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,440
a meat eater and you're eating 
it, let's like it really charred

1145
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,080
all the time and it's cooked 
like well done, like probably 

1146
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,960
not getting nearly the benefits 
that you could from like all the

1147
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,880
all the nutrients that would 
come from that meat, but you're 

1148
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,440
also getting some carcinogens 
along with that. 

1149
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,520
So I think that's where people, 
when they look at meat as being 

1150
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,920
a bad thing, they're looking at 
the conventional, like hamburger

1151
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,520
that's on a bun with a Coke and 
fries, but it's also probably 

1152
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,440
pretty charred and not good 
quality beef. 

1153
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,600
The charred parts taste so good.
It's so good. 

1154
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,480
I love too and like and so our 
so this is interesting topic 

1155
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,600
too, but we like so that's like 
it's called pyrazine and 

1156
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,320
everything something is cooked 
and burned. 

1157
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,240
It produces this compound 
conpyrazine and pyrazine is 

1158
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,640
highly addictive. 
And so that's what's in a lot of

1159
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,320
these meat products, but also in
cigarettes and different things 

1160
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,720
people smoke and that's what 
often makes people addicted and 

1161
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:17,840
people always been on nicotine. 
But really is it nicotine? 

1162
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,880
It's more about the pyrazine. 
But I feel like nicotine is 

1163
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,200
addicted addictive too. 
Even people that I know that 

1164
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,160
just do the pouches or I mean I 
I've tried I have experienced 

1165
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,600
nicotine as well. 
I find it to be pretty 

1166
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,680
addictive. 
And so this is where it gets 

1167
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,120
interesting because like if you,
if you just look at nicotine, it

1168
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,640
in my mind, it's kind of like 
caffeine, like it is addictive. 

1169
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,520
I think caffeine's actually 
maybe more addictive. 

1170
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,800
I think it is more addictive as 
well. 

1171
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,440
I've I've done nicotine as well,
like patches or pouches. 

1172
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,600
The pouches, the problems 
pouches are again, it's like 

1173
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,360
it's like anything else. 
The additives they put in, those

1174
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,320
are often very toxic and they're
also like synthetic forms of 

1175
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,280
nicotine. 
And so they're they're released 

1176
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,320
really quickly. 
They cause a huge dopamine hit 

1177
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,640
that you get and that's what's 
addictive for people usually. 

1178
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,880
So you get used to that dopamine
hit. 

1179
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,400
But if you have like a slow 
release nicotine or you don't do

1180
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,400
it very often, I think it's not 
really necessarily nicotine as 

1181
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,280
much as these other components 
that go to it. 

1182
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,480
But that's that's kind of a, a 
nuanced conversation. 

1183
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,080
Yeah, what do you do for 
nicotine? 

1184
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,400
I have patches, what brand I use
Rugby you can get on an Amazon. 

1185
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,920
They're just like they're pretty
inexpensive. 

1186
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,680
You can do like a 7 milligram 
patch or 3 milligram patch and 

1187
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,680
you can cut it into strips. 
And I've had clients get on it 

1188
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,200
and I always tell them like this
is not like a recommendation 

1189
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,800
officially, but like this is 
just something to look into. 

1190
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,280
And I've had a client recently, 
she was talking through cycles 

1191
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,960
for so long. 
We've done a lot of other things

1192
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,080
too, but she did the nicotine 
and within like 3 weeks her 

1193
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,640
cycle return so. 
Really. 

1194
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,760
OK. 
That's really interesting 

1195
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,240
because when I have taken 
nicotine consistently, my cycles

1196
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:45,320
are shorter. 
So that's, that's where I would 

1197
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,720
say use it a lot because again, 
that's it's kind of like 

1198
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,520
caffeine, it's a stimulant. 
Like if you're stimulating your 

1199
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,360
adrenal glands too much, that's 
going to reduce your 

1200
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,240
progesterone. 
So I think there's like there's 

1201
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:57,440
a balance there and it depends. 
We're using a patch what we're 

1202
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,680
using. 
The gum the gum is not like 

1203
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,240
Nicorette Lucy, which is still 
not amazing. 

1204
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,760
I mean I like their form of 
nicotine but the ingredients are

1205
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,440
not great. 
Like I emailed them several 

1206
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,000
times about picking certain 
things out, but that's what I've

1207
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,680
done. 
Yeah, I would say, I would say 

1208
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,440
if you really want to try, I 
would do like a patch that's 

1209
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,040
released over the course of 24 
hours and. 

1210
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,520
More slower and sustained. 
And it's just like pure 

1211
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,840
nicotine. 
There's something else added to 

1212
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,160
it. 
So you don't, you don't get like

1213
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,880
all people chew the gum like 
anything. 

1214
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,600
Like there's like an oral 
fixation we have with it. 

1215
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,400
And like there's also inductive 
component there. 

1216
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,400
Oh my gosh, when I chew normal 
gum now I'm like giving myself 

1217
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,120
away as my nicotine habit right 
now. 

1218
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,560
But when I chew normal gum I'll 
find myself like parking it in 

1219
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,280
my gum because I'm so used to 
the. 

1220
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,960
Nicotine gum, that's hilarious. 
But there are there are benefits

1221
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,240
to it, but that's. 
What drew me in because of, 

1222
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,640
like, the research on 
Alzheimer's and dementia, and I 

1223
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,680
mean, personally, it's like, 
helps with mental clarity so 

1224
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,120
much. 
And now I don't use it often. 

1225
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,000
I only use it for times that I 
really need to be like, sharp 

1226
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,720
and alert. 
But yeah, for a while I was 

1227
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:58,480
using it daily and found that I 
was not getting the same 

1228
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,800
benefits that I used to. 
Yeah, there's, there's, yeah, 

1229
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,520
there's like there's nuance to 
that whole conversation, but I 

1230
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,320
always try to patches versus the
gum or anything else because 

1231
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,480
it'd be a pure form and a slower
release. 

1232
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,960
Yeah. 
Therapeutic plasma exchange is 

1233
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,240
something that's being talked 
about as the latest and greatest

1234
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:17,320
longevity treatment. 
What are your thoughts on that? 

1235
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:24,280
I would say swapping like 
younger blood for older blood is

1236
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,040
like obviously going to have 
some benefits when you're 

1237
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,600
exchanging plasma. 
But it's still your It's like 

1238
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,240
they're clearing out the the 
junk from your blood, right? 

1239
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:33,640
Well, there, that's like more 
like EBOO, like when they do 

1240
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,120
that exchange of like like 
filtering your blood, the 

1241
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,320
therapeutic plasma exchange is 
like they're exchanging somebody

1242
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,000
else's plasma for yours. 
At least that's my. 

1243
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,200
Intent of something else? 
That I think you're thinking of 

1244
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,840
Eboo, which is like a it's. 
Different than Eboo is it? 

1245
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,040
Yeah, maybe I'm thinking of the 
wrong thing, but I do know that 

1246
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,200
you get like an exchange of 
somebody else's plasma, was my 

1247
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,080
thought. 
Because it's not the Brian John.

1248
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,680
It's not the thing that Brian 
Johnson did. 

1249
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,840
I'm thinking of something else. 
Maybe I have the wrong name for 

1250
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,120
it. 
We'll. 

1251
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,240
Talk about it. 
Yeah, maybe you could clarify on

1252
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,280
that, because I'm not sure 
either. 

1253
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,000
I can't provide any value to 
that. 

1254
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,760
So it's both. 
So it works by drawing the 

1255
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,320
patient's blood, separating 
plasma from the blood cells 

1256
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,160
using machine, discarding the 
plasma which may contain harmful

1257
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,120
antibodies, toxins and proteins,
returning the blood cells mixed 

1258
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,000
with replacement fluid usually. 
Albumin Albumin, yeah. 

1259
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,640
Or donor plasma back into the 
patient's body. 

1260
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,040
So it can be both then. 
So yeah, I think we're both 

1261
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,800
saying the same thing then. 
So I think as a longevity tool 

1262
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,480
for what it's for what it's 
worth, I guess it depends on 

1263
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,000
your budget, I think. 
Yeah, it's like 10 grand, right?

1264
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,360
Yeah, it's quite expensive. 
So I think the benefit you would

1265
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,880
get as a longevity tool probably
not worth it when you can do 

1266
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,840
sauna, you can do fasting, you 
can do detoxes. 

1267
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,560
Like naturally, I would say for 
most people, I wouldn't be 

1268
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,040
bogged down with doing that. 
If you're like really wanting to

1269
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,320
get an extra oz out of it, like 
out of your health, I would say 

1270
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,880
you could, that would be a good 
benefit. 

1271
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,120
But doing it long term to me 
seems like I'd rather teach 

1272
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,880
somebody how to live their life 
in a healthy detoxing way then 

1273
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,680
like get them thinking like I'll
just do my regular life and then

1274
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,480
go do TPE and like not have to 
change anything. 

1275
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,600
And I didn't know it was like 
donor plasma fluids. 

1276
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,480
That creeps me out a little. 
Bit yeah, that is a little 

1277
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,480
creepy, especially with other 
things going on in people's 

1278
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,640
blood these days. 
But yeah, I don't know. 

1279
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,400
For me, I would say focus on 
other things before that 

1280
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:27,360
personally. 
You are not a big fan of protein

1281
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,880
powder, Why is that? 
Well, a lot of it. 

1282
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,720
So a lot of people use it as a 
meal replacement and like 

1283
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:36,880
they're the wake up and again, 
they're not not eating any food.

1284
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,120
Like they're, they're mixing 
together berries and bananas and

1285
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,800
loads of kale and spinach and 
they're throwing in a, you know,

1286
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,160
whey protein powder that's like 
probably very low quality and 

1287
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,520
they're not chewing it. 
So they're blend, they're using 

1288
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,280
the blender as their mouth. 
And like we never had blenders 

1289
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,360
until like 50-60 years ago so. 
And when you chew, you have 

1290
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,960
these enzymes in your saliva, 
right, that start to breakdown 

1291
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,000
the food? 
Absolutely. 

1292
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,320
So mastication is a huge part of
like your digestion. 

1293
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,600
It's the first part of your 
digestion. 

1294
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,360
So I think that's that's one 
component of like if you want to

1295
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,440
have improved digestion like 
chew your food obviously. 

1296
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,760
Can you like swish it around? 
I don't know, actually, we could

1297
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,000
try it, but so I always hope 
that if you're going to have a 

1298
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,280
protein, just do it after you 
have a meal, like chew your 

1299
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,360
food, get your body going and 
then have like a little 

1300
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,840
supplemental protein. 
I I just like, you know, like a 

1301
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,080
bovine hydrolyzed bovine protein
source personally, or like a 

1302
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,120
sometimes a pee protein. 
Just depends on what else you're

1303
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,040
adding to it. 
But I just would rather get my 

1304
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,000
clients like eat, eat like 
ground beef and sweet potato and

1305
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,520
avocado for breakfast. 
Like that's what I want my 

1306
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,000
clients to eat for breakfast, 
so. 

1307
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Before we go, I want to get your
take on some old school 

1308
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,040
remedies. 
Oh boy. 

1309
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,080
And some fringe health stuff 
I've seen circulating, like 

1310
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,600
stuff that pharmaceutical 
companies don't want us to know 

1311
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,520
about. 
OK, see how we go here. 

1312
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,040
And tell you can tell me if 
these are legitimate or not. 

1313
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,000
I'll, I'll do my best. 
OK, chlorine dioxide. 

1314
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,720
Like MMS is that? 
The. 

1315
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,160
Same thing. 
Yeah, I think that's MMS so. 

1316
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,240
What does MMS stand for? 
I don't it's, they call it like 

1317
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:06,000
a miracle mineral supplement, 
but like it's yeah, chlorine 

1318
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,480
dioxide. 
So yeah, that's to my knowledge,

1319
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,320
there's no like legitimate 
studies. 

1320
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,440
It's basically bleach, you know,
like it's chlorinated bleach. 

1321
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,560
And so I think a lot of people 
will take it. 

1322
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,560
They'll get like AGI symptom 
because it probably like kills a

1323
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,800
bunch of microbes, you know, 
which may be beneficial short 

1324
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,320
term, but I think long term use 
of it. 

1325
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Like I got people in my family, 
I'm not going to name names that

1326
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,080
use it. 
And I've always been like, if 

1327
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,240
you guys are doing well with it 
and it doesn't cause any harm, 

1328
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,560
like I'm not going to tell you 
to stop. 

1329
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,440
I would never tell anyone online
or my clients to use it because 

1330
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,440
I feel like it's just too much 
risk and getting the dosage 

1331
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,760
right would be pretty important.
And if you take too much, you 

1332
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,960
can definitely cost an issue. 
So I would not, I would not 

1333
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,160
endorse that one personally. 
What about Borax? 

1334
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,280
Borax, no, but boron yes. 
Like boron is a trace mineral 

1335
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,440
that you're you get from food. 
Borax is like a it contains, it 

1336
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,880
contains parts of boron, but 
it's Borax by itself is not what

1337
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,680
you would get from food. 
It's not a natural source. 

1338
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,600
So I think if you want to take 
boron, that's a good idea as a 

1339
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,720
supplement. 
It can help with your bone 

1340
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,240
health and making sure your 
minerals stay in the right 

1341
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,360
place. 
But I would I would not 

1342
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,800
recommend Borax necessarily. 
What about iodine? 

1343
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,160
Iodine is great if you know what
your thyroid is doing. 

1344
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,560
If you have just, you can get 
tested like you can do. 

1345
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,800
You can do a blood test. 
You can even do some like a skin

1346
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,160
patch test, which isn't 
necessarily as accurate, but you

1347
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,640
can do tests to see where your 
iodine levels are. 

1348
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,400
If you have like Hashimoto's 
thyroiditis, then you got to be 

1349
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,400
careful of how much you take of 
iodine in. 

1350
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,840
You want to make sure it's 
paired of selenium, but 

1351
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,560
otherwise iodine can be a great 
tool. 

1352
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,080
Everybody needs iodine. 
What about febenazole and 

1353
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,800
ivermectin as off label cancer 
drugs? 

1354
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,040
Benzodol is like more of like a 
veterinarian type prescription 

1355
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,320
for parasite antiparasitic. 
Ivermectin is for humans, 

1356
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,080
antiparasitic. 
But I think some people take 

1357
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,240
both. 
They do both, yeah. 

1358
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,360
I for me, they're both 
pharmaceutical like. 

1359
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,720
They're both have polysorbate 80
in them probably. 

1360
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,360
They have probably other 
ingredients you're not aware of.

1361
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,120
I would say I would rather you 
do like a natural parasite 

1362
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,720
cleanse if you're concerned 
about parasites. 

1363
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,640
But again, it gets back to the 
conversation we had earlier of 

1364
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,640
like how parasites could 
interact and and affect cancer. 

1365
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,760
I agreed that they would be good
if you were killing parasites, 

1366
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,400
but I think there's probably 
better methods you could 

1367
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,120
implement than taking those two.
But I wouldn't discourage 

1368
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,240
somebody necessarily from doing 
that. 

1369
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:37,160
OK, most fringe one for last. 
Was lead paint on walls an 

1370
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,880
effective way to block EMF? 
That the government. 

1371
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,560
Doesn't want us doing anymore. 
Technically, yes, it's a, it's 

1372
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,720
a, it's a conductor let is. 
And so it would be 

1373
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,840
theoretically, yes, it would 
block Emfs. 

1374
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,880
I don't know. 
I bet you the the radio waves 

1375
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,640
that we had back then are not in
comparison to what we have now. 

1376
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,560
It would probably block like 
lower radio waves at at some 

1377
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,640
percentages, but I don't know if
it would be enough to say like 

1378
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,240
it's completely effective. 
I think for most people now, 

1379
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,360
it's like if you don't want to 
worry about like the dusting 

1380
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,480
coming off of your paint and 
getting like in your lungs and 

1381
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,920
inhaling lead paint that way, or
like your kids peeling it off 

1382
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,400
and eating it, which I don't 
know if any of you guys did 

1383
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,960
that, but I don't remember doing
that, right? 

1384
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:17,880
So I don't. 
Know it's a. 

1385
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,400
Huge deal, that's the thing. 
I know there's like some like 

1386
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360
that breaks down over time and 
it can kind of get in your air, 

1387
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,280
but if you have like a good air 
filter, it's probably not a huge

1388
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,680
deal. 
I would say like you can use 

1389
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,720
there's like silver I I date or 
I silver plated paints and like 

1390
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,280
EMF blocking paints. 
They sell now. 

1391
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,000
I don't know how good those are,
but most of the times you can 

1392
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,200
just turn off your Wi-Fi. 
You can turn off, you know, have

1393
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,040
your phone charging by your bed,
you know, use airplane mode on 

1394
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,480
your phone. 
Like I think that's probably 

1395
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,760
pretty good option. 
I've read reports and these like

1396
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,480
stickers and stuff people put on
their phones and they don't 

1397
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,800
really seem to work all that 
much but. 

1398
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,400
We did paint our bedroom at one 
point with like EMF blocking 

1399
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,040
paint because even though we 
were doing all the things that 

1400
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,600
you mentioned, it was like the 
neighbors Wi-Fi that was still, 

1401
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,840
I mean we were testing it with a
meter and I do feel like it 

1402
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,720
helped like we were sleeping so 
well in that room well. 

1403
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,760
Even if so, a lot of people like
put their, you know, we have our

1404
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,800
headboards up against the wall 
that has also electricity going 

1405
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,800
through it and you have to be 
smart meters and all the stuff 

1406
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,040
that's connected to your house. 
Like, I think it's a huge, I 

1407
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,200
think, I think EMF's are going 
to be like the leading cause of 

1408
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,480
disease and dysfunction in the 
human body in the future. 

1409
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,680
Like I think that's such a huge 
problem, especially these 5G 

1410
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,440
towers they have everywhere and 
then upping the frequencies to 

1411
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,720
like 6G and ramping it up. 
It's just going to be a whole 

1412
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,360
new level of interference their 
cells. 

1413
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,200
And this is where it gets really
conspiratorial. 

1414
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,520
But maybe I shouldn't talk about
this because this is like a 

1415
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,840
little bit weird. 
I just read about it the other 

1416
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,280
day. 
There's these towers they have 

1417
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:39,720
that are, they look like 5G 
towers. 

1418
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,800
They're actually called Gwen 
towers in the apparently the 

1419
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,160
military used to use them for 
like in case there's a nuclear 

1420
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,960
fallout, they could communicate 
and get these likes these 

1421
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,720
frequencies sent. 
They can communicate back and 

1422
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,600
forth even in a nuclear fallout.
But some people are saying that 

1423
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,840
the Gwen towers are actually 
have another use that they can 

1424
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,160
they can they potentially could 
like do mind control, right. 

1425
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,840
And so mind controls like a huge
concern for everybody because 

1426
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,800
you have all these 
indoctrinations with cell phones

1427
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,800
and algorithms, all stuff. 
But the only reason that that 

1428
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,000
would work, and I asked chat TBT
like, well, is this like a real 

1429
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,160
thing? 
And I was like, no, like, that's

1430
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,320
not a real thing. 
It wouldn't do that. 

1431
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,000
And I was like, what if you had 
nanoparticle technology in your 

1432
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,920
in your body? 
Would that allow that tower to 

1433
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,560
then influence how you feel and 
how you function? 

1434
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,480
And it said yes, wow, it could 
so. 

1435
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,520
Which is something that is on 
the horizon. 

1436
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,160
COVID vaccines, it's in, they're
putting it in different foods 

1437
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,200
and things like that. 
So it's one of those things that

1438
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,080
I think is. 
Oh, it's here, the nanopart. 

1439
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,640
Oh yeah, nanopart. 
Yeah, for sure. 

1440
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,440
It was in the IT was in all the 
most of the COVID vaccines as 

1441
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,400
far as I know. 
It's it's like imagine like 

1442
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,040
little microchips like all 
throughout your blood. 

1443
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,880
And it's something that they 
kind of, I don't know how it 

1444
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,640
works, but they want, they want 
it. 

1445
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,480
They want it in our bodies. 
Yeah. 

1446
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,480
And I'm just like, well, if they
want that in our body and they 

1447
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,560
have these towers around that 
can do these certain things, 

1448
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,680
like would that be a good way to
make people depressed and sick 

1449
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,320
and more easily manipulated? 
Yeah, Apparently, yes. 

1450
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,800
So conspiracy. 
Did I miss anything there I. 

1451
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,000
Don't think so. 
OK, my husband went on this deep

1452
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,280
dive or it's kind of off and on 
on this deep dive of looking 

1453
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,480
into like this, this fringe 
stuff, this fringe health stuff 

1454
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,240
online. 
Those were good. 

1455
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,920
Those Yeah, those were good. 
We haven't really implemented 

1456
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,800
any of it because I'm always a 
little bit skeptical, but but 

1457
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,400
also interested, yeah. 
I think there's things that are 

1458
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,440
covered up, but a lot of things 
are still placebo where they 

1459
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,440
like, you know, whenever take a 
pill, it does something team 

1460
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,280
mentally, you know, and if it's 
something that's different, that

1461
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,960
like it feels special, I think 
it makes you feel something 

1462
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,120
different. 
So you got to be careful with 

1463
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,640
that stuff because not 
everything is legitimate. 

1464
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,600
What first step would you 
encourage anyone listening to 

1465
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,760
take who wants to start feeling 
better, looking better? 

1466
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,680
What would you say? 
Set an alarm for your bedtime. 

1467
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,080
Love it super sexy, but it's 
super basic and important. 

1468
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,600
I think people are we just don't
sleep well. 

1469
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,960
Like we don't have good rest. 
And then the other thing would 

1470
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,320
be is it doesn't make sense why 
it seems to be critical. 

1471
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,640
But like fear, not like we said 
before, like trust in trust, in 

1472
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,080
my opinion, trust in the Lord 
and trust that like he is 

1473
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,240
watching over you and he has 
good things planned for you. 

1474
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,840
And like fear is the biggest 
harm that people are are taking 

1475
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,400
in every single day and it's 
it's causing havoc in their 

1476
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,720
system. 
So if you're not. 

1477
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Doctor Lake, thank you so much 
for being here. 

1478
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,960
Thanks. 
You bring such rich insights 

1479
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,000
into so many topics that I've 
personally been so interested in

1480
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,040
for a while. 
So really appreciate your time. 

1481
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,320
And I just love how God works 
and how he lined up this 

1482
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,720
conversation. 
So thank you. 

1483
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,560
Where can people find you and 
connect with you and work with 

1484
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,880
you if if they're interested in 
that? 

1485
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,040
Yeah, so you can go to my 
Instagram, Dr. dot Austin dot 

1486
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,840
Lake, I'm sure. 
I think I provided you guys a 

1487
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,240
link that you guys could 
probably click. 

1488
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,640
It's like a weird link that you 
can actually book a call with my

1489
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,640
team and we can walk, walk you 
through a consultation and see 

1490
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,360
if you would be actual good fit 
to be a client. 

1491
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,760
I have a ebook out there. 
It's Holy dot Health back slash 

1492
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,320
book. 
But otherwise, yeah, there's 

1493
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,320
just you can find me online. 
Awesome. 

1494
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,200
Thank you. 
Of course. 

1495
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Appreciate it.