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Most women don't want to lose 
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the scale. 
They want to feel confident, 

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attractive and comfortable in 
their own body again. 

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What's frustrating is that for 
so many women, even eating clean

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and working out doesn't deliver 
the results they desire. 

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Was working out like a freaking 
crazy person. 

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Peloton, P90, you name it. 
Weightlifting. 

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Nothing was making me like the 
way I looked in the mirror. 

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Today I'm sitting down with 
functional nutritionist and 

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Primal Bod founder Candy 
Frazier, who's helped thousands 

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of women finally see their 
bodies respond without starving 

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themselves or living in the gym.
I dropped 13 lbs in six weeks. 

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And the reason her approach 
works is something that almost 

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no one in the Wellness community
is talking about. 

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It was like a light bulb went 
off in my mind. 

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Once you learn it, you'll never 
have to learn it again. 

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Let's dig in. 
Candy, thank you so much for 

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being here and joining us today.
I want to set this conversation 

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up a little bit. 
So for anyone who's listening 

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and has not yet heard of Candy 
Frazier, please go to her 

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Instagram and just scroll 
through her photos. 

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I want you to find a photo of 
her in a bikini. 

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And we'll put this up on the 
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YouTube. 
But I just want everyone to see 

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what Candy looks like in a 
bikini because she she doesn't 

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just have amazing jeans. 
She hasn't always looked this 

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way. 
But it's just proof that what 

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you are doing is working for you
and also for so many other 

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people that you're helping to 
transform their lives and their 

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bodies. 
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that and keep that in the back 
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That's what we're talking the. 
Bikini pictures is how I get 

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women's attention on Instagram. 
No, it works. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, you got to do what you 

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got to do. 
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I never thought I'd be a bikini 
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Can you tell our audience a 
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health journey and how you got 
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Yeah, So it interestingly 
enough, I started out not eating

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well at all. 
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people would say you're the 
healthiest person I've ever met.

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It wasn't always that way. 
I ate a lot of junk food as a 

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kid. 
I grew up on a farm. 

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My dad is a hunting, fishing 
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So we did have a lot of like 
nature in our lives. 

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And I did eat, you know, wild 
hot salmon from that morning 

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from my dad's boat, you know, 
elk, you know, venison beef. 

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But it was the 80s and 90s. 
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know, Lucky Charms for breakfast
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fat free yogurt. 
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generation. 
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stuff, fat free milk. 
I was always congested. 

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My lymph glands were always 
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You know, I had my tonsils 
removed as a kid. 

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Then as I became older I had 
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you know, breast tenderness. 
I got put on birth control when 

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I was 14 years old so I I 
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140 lbs within like 3 months. 
Did they put you on birth 

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control for acne? 
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control because she didn't want 
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So I had an older boyfriend at 
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don't want to be a grandma and I
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risk. 
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and it was it destroyed my body,
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I had started to develop 
Cellulite by the time I got into

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my mid 20s. 
I had full on lipedema, so I had

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hard pockets of fat on the 
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But you know, I was always 
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world, what God gave us. 
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and farming because that's how I
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And my grandpa was a really big 
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dad. 
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food. 
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tail. 
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school and he'd have a big pot 
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soup cooking on the stove. 
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fermented cheeses and 
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He was German. 
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was kind of, most people would, 
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Like he would say I'd make him 
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I'd take it over to his house. 
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away from the farm. 
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That was his nickname for me. 
Kiss her. 

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Did you soak these beans 
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And I go, no. 
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them 'cause it takes all the gas
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Then grandpa won't get gassy. 
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plants have these toxins in them
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certain ways and be really 
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them so that we can actually 
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Also, my grandma was a was a 
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She was in Garden Club and she 
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I knew our crab apples on our 
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area. 
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they're not wild necessarily, 
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many years before we came. 
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had been selectively bred. 
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then we had a Cherry Tree and a 
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the they were selectively bred 
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So I always understood that, but
I didn't really do much with it.

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I didn't really know. 
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nutrition. 
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about how omega-3 fats can help 
influence our brain and our 

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behavior. 
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interesting. 
I was, I'll never forget it. 

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I was in the library, had my 
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He was just a little guy. 
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critter books and I went over to
the diet section, found this 

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book and I was like just amazed 
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thought, I want to do this 
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I want to like learn how to help
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out. 
And how old were you at the 

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time? 
I was 2222, I was very young. 

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And so then, you know, things 
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working mom, you know, and I'm 
busy divorce, go through my 

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first divorce and I move, take 
my boys and, you know, I'm busy 

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doing hairdressing. 
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nutrition school, but I went to 
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because that was the cool thing 
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And I was like, I'm going to put
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Every weekend I would go to the 
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books, literal anatomy books, 
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stuff. 
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and they weren't so needy on me,
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this now. 
So I went to nutrition school 12

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years ago, became board 
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certification and just started 
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I was doing homeopathy, I was 
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know, basic nutrition and 
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And at the time I was all 
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I was making sure that my 
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eating, you know, plants, 
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I think I improved their their 
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felt a little better. 
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from eating processed junk to 
eating Whole Foods, they always 

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shift in a better direction. 
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issues. 
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need more supplements. 
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So I spent many years doing this
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I taught, you know, doctors 
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And we did seminars and taught 
about, you know, supplements and

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homeopathy. 
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And at one of those seminars, I 
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He was attending 1. 
He was ACPA and his sister was a

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natural health practitioner. 
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And he was interested in her 
business model of natural health

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clinics, helping people with 
supplements and natural health 

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remedies. 
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is like really interesting to 
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He is a type 1 diabetic. 
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his health. 
So he was like, I'm going to 

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leave my business, you know, 
investment banker, big CPA, you 

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know, job and I'm going to go do
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So that's what he did. 
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seminars and he learned and we 
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We started talking. 
He's like, I'm interested in 

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doing these health, you know, 
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And he's like, I'd love for you 
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on, you know, building these 
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chiropractors and functional 
medicine, doctors and 

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practitioners that were all 
natural health minded at these 

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health centers. 
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and it was like we just 
chemistry, chemistry, you know, 

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immediate attraction. 
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year, year and a half. 
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both confessed our undying love 
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Washington state. 
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there. 
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where I've been my whole life, 
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we started our health practice 
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quickly. 
I was the New Girl in town. 

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I was doing all this stuff and 
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So I grew really quickly and I 
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with my practice in Washington, 
you know, basically had this 

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community of these families that
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live a more natural lifestyle. 
And, but behind closed doors, my

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life was really chaotic and I 
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You know, that was just so to 
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It's still brand new, in my 
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still brand new. 
But we had this brand new love 

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and there was another woman and 
the other woman was type 1 

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diabetes and it was very 
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Have you seen the movie Steel 
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I haven't. 
OK, you got to watch it, girl. 

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It's so good. 
So Julia Roberts, it's got a 

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great cast. 
Dolly Parton's in it, Sally 

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Field. 
But in the movie, Julia plays a 

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Type 1 diabetic. 
And there's a scene in the movie

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where she's sitting in Trudy's 
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is the hairdresser in the movie,
and Dolly's doing her hair and 

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Sally Fields her mom and she's 
there and she's having a 

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diabetic low. 
And so it's really dramatic. 

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She's shaking, she's sweating. 
They have to give her orange 

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juice to get her blood sugar to 
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And I remember at the time I 
watched that because it's from 

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that like the 80s, I think, 
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And I was young at the time. 
And I thought that must be a 

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horrible disease to have. 
And I it just stuck in my mind 

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so clearly that scene. 
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horrible. 
And then it happened to me in 

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real life and it was really 
scary. 

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Via Tom. 
I watched it happen and I was 

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there, you know, numerous times 
helping him get his blood sugar 

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back up. 
Now, it's not his fault. 

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Type 1 diabetes is a very 
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And, you know, we were newlyweds
and I was making, I'm a good 

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cook and I was making him all 
these yummy paleo desserts like 

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these date and nuts and all 
this, you know, and we were 

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eating a lot of Whole Foods, 
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And, you know, we were eating a 
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sugary Whole Foods. 
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this was going to be a problem 
for him because I was always 

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taught, oh, fiber, Whole Foods 
are OK. 

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They're not going to hurt your 
blood sugar. 

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Blah blah blah. 
Sweeteners are different than 

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you know, they're kind. 
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taught in school, too. 
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a lie. 
I watched it unfold in my 

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husband's blood sugar every day.
I would make him a smoothie. 

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It would have Greek yogurt, some
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little little swirl of honey on 
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same thing as if he had a 
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drive in. 
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like this is fiber and he says 
it doesn't matter it's all 

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sugar. 
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does paleo desserts. 
I was making him with coconut 

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flakes and everything were just 
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and I thought this can't be. 
So my downfall for so many years

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too when I first went paleo. 
I think a lot of people Paleo's 

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kind of like a a gateway way of 
eating. 

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Once you start eating, it sure 
is, but the problem is you just 

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start making paleo versions of 
all the same treats you were 

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eating before. 
Totally, totally. 

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And that's what I was doing, you
know, I was just being cute 

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about it, you know, So we had 
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So I'm like, honey, what do we 
need to do? 

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And he's a dude. 
He's like, sure, Paleo yummy 

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desserts. 
You're making me, you know, and 

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I'm like, no, because we can't 
do this low that you have 

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because it's so scary to me. 
So I said, we got to do 

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something. 
And he goes, well, I do much 

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better when I eat meat and 
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vegetables. 
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what we're doing. 
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weeks, I, I, we, we made this 
plan. 

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I said, OK, I'm going to eat 
everything you eat. 

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I'm going to move. 
When you move, I'm going to do 

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everything to support you 
because I know it's going to be 

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easier for you if you do this. 
Now at the time, I had gained 

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probably 6 lbs since we had 
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And I wasn't fat, but I also 
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I was skinny fat. 
I had a lot of Cellulite, but I 

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had just given up on my body. 
I had tried the 75 Hard 

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challenge. 
I had work was working out like 

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a freaking crazy person. 
Peloton, P90, you name it. 

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Weightlifting. 
Nothing was making me look like 

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the way I looked in the mirror, 
but I just was like, I'm doing 

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all the right things and I look 
better than most of the people 

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on the planet right now. 
Most women say I'm really thin, 

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so it just must be whatever 
perimenopause, right? 

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So I had just given up. 
So when we started on this plan 

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to help Tom balance his blood 
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overcorrect with insulin, I had 
given up on my body and I was 

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just doing this to help him. 
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serendipitous thing that ever 
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And it was a gift from God. 
I truly believe that because 

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after six weeks of eating and 
moving and living in accordance 

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to Tom's blood sugar, keeping it
stable so he didn't have to over

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give himself insulin, I dropped 
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Wow. 
In six weeks. 

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That's unbelievable. 
And I couldn't believe I've been

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trying everything and nothing 
was working. 

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So it was like a light bulb went
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I thought, OK, I had done keto 6
or 7 times prior to even meeting

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Tom. 
I had done the Adkins diet way 

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back in the day, ate nothing but
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and, you know, bacon and the 
Adkins basic first week for nine

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months and I'd lose like a 
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get constipated. 
I didn't feel well. 

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So it was like a light bulb went
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And I thought the reason the 
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reason, you know, the Adkins 
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because I wasn't, I didn't 
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And I looked at Tom after I lost
13 lbs and I'm like, how is this

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possible? 
And he's like, I told you, the 

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more insulin I take, the fatter 
I get. 

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Insulin's the master fast during
hormone. 

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And I'm like, I knew that. 
I was taught that, but I didn't 

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fully understand. 
I didn't think I had a blood 

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sugar issue. 
My fasting glucose was always 80

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every morning, 80. 
It was perfectly fine. 

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But little did I know it's 
because my body was massively 

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producing insulin to keep it 
that low, you know, to keep my 

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body at a state of coherence and
balance, I had to produce a lot 

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of insulin. 
And what happens in most women 

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is that will happen to them for 
a lot. 

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Many years. 
They will show no signs of 

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diabetes or insulin resistance. 
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overnight, they go to their 
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well, you're insulin resistant. 
Now, some of these women aren't 

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even obese or don't even have 
weight to lose. 

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They're just, their diet has 
been so heavy with glucose, they

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produce so much insulin that it 
wore the receptor down and now 

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they've developed resistance to 
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So they've insulin resistance. 
And if you let that go, it 

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develops into type 2 diabetes. 
So I know I saved myself from 

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that because I'm sure by the age
of 55, I would have had insulin 

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full on insulin resistance. 
And I see it, women join my 

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program daily that have insulin 
resistance. 

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They come in and they're like, I
have insulin resistance. 

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How is this possible? 
I've been eating a Mediterranean

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diet. 
How is this possible? 

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And it's because they don't 
understand how insulin works. 

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And once you understand how it 
works, you know exactly how you 

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need to eat. 
But it even doctors don't 

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understand it. 
They gave Tom no good advice 

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when he was diagnosed at 15. 
They do not understand how 

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insulin works at all. 
So you know. 

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For I mean, what it what advice 
did they give him? 

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Just this is how you manage you.
Bolus yeah, you this is. 

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Not any like your car diet but 
blah blah blah. 

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Just all about calculating 
whatever you want you need based

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on. 
How many carbs you eat? 

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Exactly. 
And that's why we're in the 

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epidemic we're in now. 
We have type 1 diabetes is on 

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the rise, Type 2 is out of 
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world. 
I mean, even in Asia and India, 

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they have some of the highest 
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And what are they eating? 
Rice and potatoes and all the 

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starches so. 
And type 2 is 100% reversible. 

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It right it can be if you catch 
it early enough OK, you know my.

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It can get to a point where you 
actually can't. 

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I mean, it's hard to, it's 
really hard to, yeah. 

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And it, it can be very damaging 
to your organs and your, I mean,

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type 2 diabetics, eventually if 
they don't take care of it, they

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go blind, they can lose limbs, 
you know, their kidneys give out

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and they die. 
So if you don't manage it, then 

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yes. 
But it can be reversible. 

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Absolutely, 100%. 
If you get it when you're 

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insulin resistant, then it's 
really easy to, to reverse that.

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But. 
And you mentioned that this can 

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be a shocking diagnosis for 
people. 

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They think everything's fine, 
they're eating healthy, and 

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then, you know, at one point, 
they're just diagnosed with type

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2 diabetes. 
But are there any signs that can

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show up that women or just 
people in general can be on the 

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lookout for? 
Yes, a big one that no one 

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really understands is 
hypoglycemia. 

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So excess fat on the body for 
one, and then hypoglycemia. 

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So if you have excess fat on 
your body and you experience 

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hypoglycemic symptoms, and I'm 
not a doctor, but you know, just

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work with your on what 
hypoglycemic symptoms are, you 

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know, it's like you're hungry, 
you're you're you get hangry. 

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Like if you skip a meal you get 
really hangry. 

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And that's because hypoglycemia 
is like super low blood sugar. 

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Correct. 
And it's a sign that your body 

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it is always needs glucose to 
burn. 

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It's a sign that you're not fat 
adapted, that you're not burning

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fat for fuel, you're only 
burning glucose and that your 

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body massively produces insulin.
So when you massively produce 

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insulin, your blood sugar drops 
frequently because that's one of

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insulin's main role is to 
transport glucose from the 

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bloodstream intracellularly. 
So it takes it out of the blood 

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channel into the cell, in turn 
dropping the blood sugar. 

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So when you have a lot of 
glucose in the cell, you make a 

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lot of insulin baby, because 
that insulin's got got a trigger

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the cell to open so the glucose 
can go through it. 

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So it can be used as fueling out
any access. 

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Sugar in the blood or glucose in
the blood will get taken to the 

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liver and converted into fat. 
Insulin's second role is to do 

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that, transport the glucose to 
the liver, but also to sit on 

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the fat cell and prevent your 
body from tapping into it for 

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fuel. 
Because the fat on your body is 

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a source of fuel, you can burn 
it in the form of ketones and 

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get superb energy from burning 
fat. 

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But if you have too much 
insulin, you can't burn fat. 

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You're just stuck in a high 
insulin environment. 

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So you have a lot of fat on your
body. 

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You have hypoglycemia, you have 
sugar cravings because insulin 

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will make you crave sugar 
because insulin lowers your 

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blood sugar. 
So your body has a mechanism to 

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raise it again if you have too 
much insulin, so it makes you 

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crave more sugar. 
I've never heard it put that 

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way, that it sits on top of your
fat cells and then the way you 

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does it get flushed out then 
when you're either eating kind 

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of the way that you eat or if 
you're in a fasted state or 

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exercise. 
When you get into a state of 

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ketosis, eventually your, your 
insulin will lower and then your

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it will leave your fat cell 
because your, your body says, 

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OK, now we don't have any food. 
We have to tap into the fat. 

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Your body never wants to burn 
fat. 

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It was designed that way because
in the wild we couldn't get fat.

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There wasn't enough carbs around
for us to get fat. 

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So the body tries to preserve 
fat on your body, especially in 

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women because as estrogen is fat
promoting, but insulin is the 

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key mechanism for why it's made 
and why it's still there. 

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And that that intimate 
connection we have to our 

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ancestors that lived at one with
the earth that ate mostly meat 

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and they ate a low fat forming 
diet and lived a low fat forming

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lifestyle 'cause they were 
moving, they were fasting, they 

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were drinking spring water, they
had good microbes. 

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They had all these things around
them to prevent to prevent 

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obesity. 
And their systems are the same 

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systems we have. 
But now we live an opposite 

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life. 
We live in a zoo with Dairy 

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Queen on every corner of a block
and we can get as fat as we 

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want. 
And our bodies are like, yeah, 

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let's get fat because our bodies
haven't adapted to that, nor do 

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I think they will because it 
kills us. 

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We die from metabolic diseases. 
I love how you said that we're 

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living in a zoo. 
I think everyone really needs to

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think about that and just 
understand that the world that 

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we live in is not set up for us 
to thrive and we have to to make

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very intentionally different 
choices if we want to thrive. 

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Yeah, yeah, I think most people 
see it. 

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If you've seen the movie Wally 
or Idiocracy and you go to Vegas

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or Disney World and you see the 
you see it. 

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You see the disease in people 
and you see what they're eating,

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you can figure it out. 
It's killing us. 

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And if we don't do something 
about it, it's going to affect 

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the generations after us. 
It's Pottinger's cats. 

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Are you familiar with 
Pottinger's cats? 

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5 generations, yes. 
It takes 5 generations 

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eventually to for it to degrade 
or to reverse, or both. 

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Exactly. 
And eventually they won't, you 

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know, they won't be able to 
procreate. 

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And that's nature's way of 
telling us this isn't right. 

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I think we're starting to see 
that happening now. 

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It is. 
We have fertility clinics for 

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for people in their 20s, they're
going to fertility clinics. 

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That's like when I was in 
school, we tried to prevent 

447
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,560
pregnancy, you know, like it 
wasn't this like, oh, I have to 

448
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,800
try to get pregnant now. 
I mean, was talking to a girl 

449
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,480
who's 28 and she's like, I'm 
going to have to go to a 

450
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,000
fertility clinic to get 
pregnant. 

451
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,160
Like we've been trying for four 
years and nothing. 

452
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,720
I'm like, are you kidding me? 
Yeah. 

453
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,880
And I feel like that's becoming 
more the norm than the than the 

454
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,200
outlier type of story for 
hypoglycemia. 

455
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,920
I know that the standard 
recommendation for people who 

456
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,960
experience that is to eat more 
frequently. 

457
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,640
I know several people who have 
said, you know, I have 

458
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320
hyperlogosemia. 
I have to eat every two hours or

459
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,080
three hours. 
What are your thoughts on that? 

460
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,960
You're just making the problem 
worse is you're just producing. 

461
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,560
Every time you eat, you produce 
insulin. 

462
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,160
Now, an easy way to ease into it
is to, instead of going for an 

463
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,480
apple and peanut butter, which 
is I want everybody to really 

464
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,040
understand this, an apple and a 
peanut butter is a Snickers 

465
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,080
candy bar. 
Everyone thinks that's a healthy

466
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,680
thing. 
It is a Snickers candy bar on 

467
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,000
your blood sugar. 
So instead of doing that, do a 

468
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,000
couple soft boiled eggs, do a 
can of sardines, do some beef 

469
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,480
jerky, do a beef stick, do 
something other than. 

470
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,560
Sugar sardines are such a great 
snack. 

471
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,680
They're the best hack or or even
like meal on the go. 

472
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,200
I mean, I know maybe sardines 
isn't a full meal, but if you're

473
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520
in a bind and you need something
that's going to satiate you, 

474
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,920
yes, sardines are the way to. 
Go. 

475
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,920
They're the most nutrient dense 
food there is. 

476
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,280
They're loaded with omega-3 
fatty acids and omega-3 fatty 

477
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,720
acids actually help you to get 
into fat burning mode. 

478
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280
They increase ketones. 
I've seen in my program we do a 

479
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,480
sardine fast. 
In the program we do 3 days of 

480
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,520
just eating sardines. 
So how many cans? 

481
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,640
Well, so it's, it starts a lot 
and then it tapers down because 

482
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,360
really you get tired of sardines
after three days of just eating 

483
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:48,720
sardines. 
But we start out with like, you 

484
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,600
know, anywhere from 5:00 to 6:00
cans a day. 

485
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,400
And then you taper down as you 
go through the days and the 

486
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,440
girls watch their ketones go up 
and up. 

487
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,840
And when your ketones are up, 
you're fat burning. 

488
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,160
You're burning more fat. 
Great way to like just get into 

489
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,120
ketosis. 
So good and it satiates you. 

490
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,840
Your cravings go away. 
You just feel calm. 

491
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,920
You feel, just feel. 
Good. 

492
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,000
They're really good source of 
calcium too, because you get the

493
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,360
bones. 
If you get the sardines with the

494
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,200
bone and the skin, you can eat 
it. 

495
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,920
They're so nutrient dense. 
Yeah, folate. 

496
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,000
Everything is in sardines. 
What are some other issues with 

497
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,640
the Paleo diet? 
I know we mentioned that all the

498
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,800
sweet treats and what that does 
to our insulin. 

499
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,360
What else? 
What are some unexpected things 

500
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,760
that people would be surprised 
to know about foods that are 

501
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,880
recommended within the Paleo way
of eating? 

502
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800
That's a really good question. 
So I'm dying to talk about this 

503
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,440
because I was just in Laguna 
Beach and it's everywhere. 

504
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,120
They have smoothies with 
flaxseed and chia seed and all 

505
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:47,680
these super foods. 
And those foods can be so 

506
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,800
damaging to young women and I 
just hate it. 

507
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,200
And and boys and I see these mom
vegan moms giving their babies 

508
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,080
these smoothies with this flax 
and chi and I'm like, Oh my 

509
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,160
gosh, please no. 
Because they're so high in 

510
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,320
phytoestrogens and those 
phytoestrogens influence our own

511
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800
hormones. 
I didn't know this. 

512
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,680
Yes. 
So this started actually before 

513
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,560
I became a nutritionist. 
I was a vegan for seven years 

514
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,360
and I was eating the flaxseed on
everything and the chia chia 

515
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,480
overnight, you know, pudding 
and. 

516
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,440
Those I like the Holy Grail 
foods. 

517
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,400
Oh my gosh, I know. 
I had all the Super foods and I 

518
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560
was in the worst shape of my 
life. 

519
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,440
I was severely anemic. 
I was almost hospitalized for 

520
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,520
it. 
I had B12 anemia and I had iron 

521
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,000
anemia. 
I had both forms. 

522
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,200
I had the worst sick cystic acne
all over my mouth and my face, 

523
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,360
my cheeks. 
It was, I'm so lucky I don't 

524
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,720
have scars from that horrible 
cystic acne. 

525
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,560
My breasts were engorged. 
They were so painful. 

526
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,760
I couldn't even hug someone. 
I had gained all this weight. 

527
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,840
Cellulite got even worse, 
inflammation, just constantly 

528
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,080
retaining water. 
And I was looking into it and 

529
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280
I'm like, what could this be? 
And I started researching and I 

530
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,280
found this gal and I can't 
remember her name. 

531
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000
I wish I remembered her name but
she was researching with 

532
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,080
tomography. 
Is it topography? 

533
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Thermography. 
Yes, but also yes and she was 

534
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:25,000
doing breasts and what she found
was that flaxseed was creating 

535
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,600
this breast cancer environment 
in the breasts for women and. 

536
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,640
The phytoestrophy. 
Yes, she has a book. 

537
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,640
I can't remember her name. 
I'll, I'll let you know what her

538
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,160
name is. 
Anyhow, she she's amazing, but 

539
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,120
she did all this research on it.
And so I removed flaxenchia from

540
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:47,280
my diet and literally within a 
week, my face cleared up, my 

541
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,280
breast stopped hurting, I wasn't
bloated anymore. 

542
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,800
I had no more water attention. 
It was incredible. 

543
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,120
So I thought, I can never not 
tell women about this. 

544
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,400
So the women would come into my 
office and they would have the 

545
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,400
same symptoms I had, you know, 
the cystic acne periods. 

546
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,960
They were having two periods a 
month. 

547
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,840
And, you know, they were just a 
wreck. 

548
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,520
And these are young girls. 
And so I tell him, get off the 

549
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,640
flax, get off the chia. 
They would do that and they 

550
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,520
would come back and they were so
much better. 

551
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,840
Everything would regulate. 
So, and I know there's people 

552
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,880
out there that are going to say,
oh, that's not true, that these 

553
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,960
are phytoestrogens, your body 
gets rid of it, blah, blah. 

554
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:28,440
No, the deal is it can be 
whatever in theory, but it has 

555
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,360
to work in reality. 
And if it is doing this to this 

556
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,360
many women who don't know about 
it, then there's something we 

557
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,960
need to look at because theory 
doesn't cut it. 

558
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,600
What about all the other nuts 
that people eat on the Paleo 

559
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,360
diet? 
Well, you look at like the seed 

560
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,120
cycling, right? 
Are you familiar with that? 

561
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,200
Yes, using seed cycling. 
So you got to be careful with 

562
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,840
that. 
And we're feeding these to our 

563
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,320
children that is influencing 
their bodies. 

564
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,560
That's what I got so much hack 
from all the herbalists about 

565
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000
the carrots in Queen Anne lace 
and you know, like, oh, you 

566
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,360
know, this lady's scaring people
from eating carrots and it's 

567
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,520
like that's that was the you 
missed the point. 

568
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,640
The point is, yes, we're eating 
selectively bred plants that are

569
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:13,040
less poisonous than the wild 
plant, but we're feeding babies 

570
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,520
carrots over meat. 
Meat is what's going to grow, 

571
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,240
their body not. 
Carrots. 

572
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Yeah. 
It's not like one carrot is 

573
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,520
going to have a serious 
detrimental effect on your 

574
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,480
health. 
But when we're choosing that 

575
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640
consistently over the foods that
are really going to nourish us, 

576
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280
yes, and be healthy and healing 
for us, then it becomes a 

577
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,160
problem. 
Yes. 

578
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,320
I've heard you talk about 
almonds. 

579
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960
Also. 
Tell us about the the almonds 

580
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,480
and the sun. 
The almonds So the almond tree. 

581
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,520
It's so weird. 
And if someone has better 

582
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480
information than me, please post
in the comments because I, I 

583
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,720
don't know, like it's hard to 
find this stuff actually the, 

584
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080
the history on it. 
But from what I've researched, 

585
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,800
almonds, 50 wild almonds would 
kill a man and that's a freaking

586
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,240
can of nuts. 
I know somebody has put away a 

587
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,720
can of nuts before of modern day
almonds, right? 

588
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160
But 50 wild almonds has enough 
cyanide to kill a man. 

589
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,680
So they, they jammed the, the 
almond tree with I think it was 

590
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,880
pine bark. 
I'm not sure. 

591
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,040
I can't remember now. 
They jammed it in there and then

592
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,400
it stressed out the almond and 
the almond lost its ability to 

593
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,080
produce the the poison. 
And so that's how they do. 

594
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
It's just so bizarre to me that 
people have been able to figure 

595
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,800
this out in weird ways, but 
I've. 

596
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,120
Always thought I've always felt 
a little funny with almonds. 

597
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880
I've always felt something weird
with them in particular and I 

598
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360
don't eat them anymore and I 
feel so much better after giving

599
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480
them up. 
But I ate so many almonds when I

600
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,880
first started eating paleo. 
Just so many nuts like trail my 

601
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,440
fruit. 
All of that much, Yeah. 

602
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640
And they're also loaded with 
oxalates. 

603
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Yeah. 
And oxalates are really hard on 

604
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,200
their gut. 
They get lodged in your kidneys.

605
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480
That's where calcium oxalate 
kidney stones develop. 

606
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,880
So we avoid oxalate foods. 
We do quick rundown on which 

607
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,880
foods have a lot of oxalates. 
Almonds are probably the top 

608
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520
along with spinach. 
Spinach is another really big 

609
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,040
one. 
And why is it important to avoid

610
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,320
oxalates? 
Oxalate do they? 

611
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,160
It builds up in your system, so 
your body naturally should be 

612
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,200
able to break it down. 
The gut. 

613
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200
The microbes in the gut should 
be able to break down some 

614
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,920
oxalate and almost all plants 
have some form of oxalate. 

615
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Our body also makes oxalate. 
In our liver we make oxalate 

616
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,760
just as a debris. 
But you know, if you're eating a

617
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,360
lot of oxalate food, your body 
is just building it up. 

618
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,600
And oxalate is sharp. 
It's like a little Shard of 

619
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,400
glass, almost like a 
microscopic. 

620
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,320
And so the body will bind 
calcium to it to neutralize it, 

621
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,760
and that's where you form 
calcium oxalate stones. 

622
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,120
And you can form stones anywhere
in your body. 

623
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Kidneys are like the main place 
everyone knows, but you can form

624
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,040
tonsil stones. 
You can form stones in your 

625
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,720
gallbladder and your pancreas, 
in your liver, and they create a

626
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,000
lot of problems in a lot of 
pain. 

627
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,120
I mean, if anyone's ever had a 
kidney stone I've heard of, 

628
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,320
they're painful. 
Childbirth. 

629
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Yeah, they're painful. 
So. 

630
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,640
So. 
Oxalates are what caused that. 

631
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,920
Yeah, they build up in our 
tissue and they can build up in 

632
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440
your brain. 
They can build up in they, they 

633
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,640
have now started to find them in
plaque. 

634
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,720
In the arteries of where plaque 
forms, there's oxalate. 

635
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,760
And of course it makes sense 
they find calcium there too. 

636
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,760
Anywhere there's calcium, 
there's going to be oxalate 

637
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,320
build up. 
So yeah, we weren't really 

638
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,280
designed to eat plants. 
We don't have the guts to break 

639
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,320
the plants down and obviously 
they're killing us. 

640
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,640
But you eat some plant, you're 
not you're not anti plant. 

641
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,400
I'm not, I'm not anti plant, you
know, we do eat some vegetables,

642
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,040
but I they're mostly like a 
condiment. 

643
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,840
I'll have a salad, you know, we 
do. 

644
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,480
I do some citrus, lemon and lime
in my water. 

645
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,040
I'll have some cucumber. 
But what? 

646
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,760
Kind of lettuce do you have when
you have salads? 

647
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,840
I, I like Caesars 'cause I like 
the anchovies. 

648
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:58,240
So I'll do I'll do you know, 
just wild mix of whatever grains

649
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:58,800
I avoid. 
I'm. 

650
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,040
Getting not spinach or kale. 
I don't eat kale. 

651
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Yeah, no, it's too hard to 
process. 

652
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,920
But I will eat. 
I like roasted Brussels sprouts.

653
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,200
I will eat roasted Brussels 
sprouts. 

654
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,200
And we eat a ton of ferments. 
So the cabbage, you know, 

655
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Anything fermented I will eat. 
For sure. 

656
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,720
Yeah, because when you ferment 
something the toxins like part 

657
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,600
of that process, Yep is it 
neutralizes the toxins. 

658
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,880
Yeah. 
Exactly. 

659
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,840
I love fermented foods. 
I got turned. 

660
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,600
I mean, I, I ate them several 
years ago and I kind of got out 

661
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,680
of that habit, but you inspired 
me to bring them back and I feel

662
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,320
like they've made a difference 
in in how I feel. 

663
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,800
I feel like my immune system is 
functioning better. 

664
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,560
Yes, my digestion is better. 
And Kiefer also. 

665
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,880
I've been drinking Kiefer. 
Yes, that's another one. 

666
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,080
The goal is to get a variety. 
So, you know, I tell, I 

667
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,640
encourage my members to like go 
out and start a fermenting club 

668
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120
and get like 7 of your neighbors
to make their ferments. 

669
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,960
As long as they've good, good 
microbes. 

670
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,000
If these people are obese or 
not, well then don't have them 

671
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880
make your sauerkraut. 
You want people to have good 

672
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,520
microbes to make the sauerkraut 
and then you swap microbes. 

673
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,199
And that diversity is where 
you'll build back a really 

674
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,080
healthy gut. 
So how does that? 

675
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,120
How does that work when when 
someone is just making 

676
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,840
something, their microbes 
actually get transferred into 

677
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,520
the? 
Yes, 100%. 

678
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Now with ferments it's a 
different story because you 

679
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,199
know, Lactobacillus usually 
kills off. 

680
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,320
It's the major, the major 
ferment. 

681
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,040
What I've found is people who 
are really unwell, when they go 

682
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,280
to make their own cabbage, a lot
of times it doesn't turn out 

683
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,239
unless they've been through the 
generations of it, like the 

684
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,880
Germans, like they can always 
make, you know, like it doesn't 

685
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,440
matter how obese they are, how 
many biscuits they they can make

686
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,719
the sour grow. 
Is this why like people that 

687
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,320
make kombucha will say like, oh 
you have to, you can sing to the

688
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,920
kombucha, you can do these 
different things and it'll 

689
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,280
influence how it grows? 
Yeah, for sure. 

690
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,280
I mean, it's a living Organism. 
Yeah. 

691
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,480
And you know when. 
You hear studies on like how 

692
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960
that influences water and. 
Plants. 

693
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,440
Yeah, absolutely. 
Yes, it totally does. 

694
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520
So we're big on getting a 
variety of ferments. 

695
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,600
We like to do different types 
from all different areas and eat

696
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,720
as many as you can from 
different types, but a little 

697
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,920
bit. 
You don't want a big potato size

698
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,920
amount, you want just you want 
it to be like a condiment, the 

699
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,800
lactic acid. 
If you're working out a lot and 

700
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,240
you're just eating carnivore and
you add in a lot of ferments, 

701
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,040
you're going to build up a lot 
of acid in your system, 

702
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,480
especially if you're drinking 
coffee. 

703
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,920
And that can be challenging on 
your system. 

704
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Your system has the ability to 
neutralize it, but it's harder 

705
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,000
for your body. 
I was thinking like the more the

706
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,280
better. 
Well, you can eat a lot if 

707
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,760
you're neutralizing it with a 
lot of plant food that's 

708
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,000
offsetting the acidity, but you 
don't need that much. 

709
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,240
I mean, the microbes are 
microscopic, so you only need a 

710
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,000
little tiny bit. 
So we eat like, I'll pull out 

711
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,400
six or seven jars of ferments 
and I have these little tongs 

712
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,800
and I just pull out little 
pieces from each one and I put 

713
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,640
it and I develop about two 
tablespoons worth of ferments on

714
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,000
my plate when I mean my steak or
my beef patties or you know 

715
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,360
what, lamb, salmon, whatever. 
A lot of times with fish, I do 

716
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,400
kimchi. 
But you know, yeah, you just do 

717
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
a little bit at every meal and 
you chew your ferment and you 

718
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,280
chew your meat. 
This is, I learned this from 

719
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Doctor Sonomera. 
He's the the origins of where 

720
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,040
the ferments come in. 
He's a very dear friend of mine,

721
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,520
but he's really interested in 
the microbiome. 

722
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,320
And what he's found was after 
studying the visceral fat, 

723
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,400
because he's the leading 
researcher in visceral fat, he 

724
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,920
found that people with good guts
have less visceral fat. 

725
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,480
And ultimately what it boils 
down to is microbes can make you

726
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,040
produce insulin. 
Isn't that crazy really? 

727
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,560
Not only can bad microbes make 
you crave sugar because most 

728
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,560
people have heard that, but they
can make you over produce 

729
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,680
insulin, keeping you 
hypoglycemic hungry all the 

730
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040
time. 
Because it's a downstream effect

731
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,960
of they make you crave the sugar
and then you eat the sugar and 

732
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,360
then you produce more insulin 
just on on their own. 

733
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Yes, I looked into this because 
I wanted to know that too. 

734
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,280
I thought, well, you know, 
because Doctor Shawn always says

735
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,360
you don't want the obesogenic 
microbes. 

736
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,960
You know, he says that all the 
time. 

737
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,320
Don't want the obesogenic 
microbes. 

738
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,440
And I'm like, well, how do they 
make you obese? 

739
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,800
So I looked into it and no, it's
not. 

740
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Yes, they make you crave sugar. 
That's an opposite thing. 

741
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,600
But there are microbes that can 
influence the production of 

742
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,040
insulin. 
How? 

743
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,160
I don't know. 
Isn't it crazy they know so 

744
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,080
little about the microbiome? 
I wish they would spend more 

745
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,640
money and time on it, because it
is. 

746
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,880
It is truly where our health 
lies, is in our gut. 

747
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,440
And they've done studies on 
this. 

748
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:48,720
They've put mice, sterile mice, 
you know, studied sterile mice, 

749
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:52,040
2 sterile mice in a cage, fed 
them the exact same diet. 

750
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,760
They did fecal matter 
transplants where they put the 

751
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,760
feces of a skinny person into 
one sterile mice and the feces 

752
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,040
of an obese person into the 
other sterile mice. 

753
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,880
They fed them the exact same 
diet next to each other and the 

754
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,720
fecal matter transplant from the
obese person made the mouse. 

755
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,840
Fat Oh my gosh, people are doing
that now, right? 

756
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,800
Isn't that? 
Crazy. 

757
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,480
So I'm really into this because 
I do think microbes are a huge 

758
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,440
part of of who we are. 
I mean they outnumber our cells.

759
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120
12:50 we have we are more 
bacteria than we are cells. 

760
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:34,040
So yes, people are getting fecal
matter transplants to promote 

761
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,600
the growth of good bacteria in 
the gut and but you have to be 

762
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,320
careful with that. 
Sometimes you can get bad, but 

763
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,200
they do it. 
I've heard it can influence your

764
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,440
like how you think your 
personality depending on what 

765
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,400
kind of microbes you're getting 
and you know how that person 

766
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,160
that you're getting them from. 
100% so you have to be really 

767
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,240
careful. 
Really careful. 

768
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,880
And it's. 
Feel like you would want to like

769
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,280
go on a vacation with someone 
first before deciding to do 

770
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,400
something like that? 
Well, and you know, they tell 

771
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,920
you you can just take a stool 
sample and encapsulate it and 

772
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,080
swallow it down, but I just have
a really hard time with that. 

773
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,600
I mean, I think I'd like to get 
it from being around people 

774
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,520
drinking from the same glass or 
being, you know, braiding each 

775
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,600
other's hair. 
This is how our ancestors did 

776
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,880
it. 
They didn't have to eat each 

777
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,960
other's. 
They like they knew they were 

778
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,400
sharing the microbes together. 
And is that? 

779
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,400
Funny that we've replicated 
medically something that has 

780
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,000
just always been so natural. 
It's pathetic. 

781
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,040
I mean, we're just pathetic 
crazy. 

782
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,040
And it's sad because we don't 
need to be. 

783
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,840
We have this. 
Yeah, We have this full land. 

784
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,040
We don't need to do that. 
Oh my. 

785
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Gosh OK I have a question on 
keto. 

786
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,080
Is it possible for people to eat
a keto diet and never actually 

787
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,960
be in ketosis? 
Yeah. 

788
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Oh yeah, that was me full on. 
Yeah, Everybody that has joined 

789
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,520
my program has done the keto 
diet and never been in ketosis. 

790
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,360
Yes, unless you're tracking it 
through blood, you don't know. 

791
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,280
So you can know because if you 
don't eat for five days, you're 

792
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,400
definitely probably in ketosis. 
Yeah. 

793
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,120
I've done that. 
Yeah, and your. 

794
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:15,240
Tones were like at 5, yeah. 
Your breath smells really bad. 

795
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,640
You can feel you get this. 
Really. 

796
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Great clarity. 
Amazing. 

797
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,800
Yes, you'll get this great 
clarity. 

798
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,480
You'll feel like you're running 
on like like jet fuel. 

799
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,400
So you'll know then. 
But if you want to lose weight, 

800
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,280
you have to stay in ketosis for 
a certain amount of time, and 

801
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,560
you have to be a specific range.
Otherwise you'll just keep 

802
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,960
producing insulin. 
It'll just keep. 

803
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,520
And also your metabolism adapts.
So anytime you do something, 

804
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,600
your body is fighting back from 
losing fat. 

805
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,040
It never wants to burn fat. 
So your metabolism will slow 

806
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,000
down, your body will adapt so 
you don't burn more fat. 

807
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,760
So there's all these weird 
things that happen that keep 

808
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,760
people from being successful on 
the keto diet. 

809
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:05,240
And keto traditionally is like 
what, like 80% fat, 70% fat, and

810
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,960
then like 2030% protein. 
Yes, they want it's high fat, 

811
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,000
lower protein and the problem 
with that is fat can make you 

812
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000
fat. 
Right, which is crazy because I 

813
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,800
mean, for a while we, we heard 
the narrative that low fat is 

814
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,520
best. 
And then, you know, a few 

815
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,840
decades later, we found out that
was not the way to go. 

816
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,520
So then there was this 
overreaction to, OK, well, let's

817
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,880
just eat as much fat as possible
and fat is good and it doesn't 

818
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,360
make you fat. 
And I think that there, there's 

819
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,080
some truth to that. 
I don't think we need to be 

820
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,280
afraid of fat. 
But tell us, tell us where you 

821
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,200
stand on the fat thing. 
We do not need to be afraid of 

822
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,040
fat, but if we're trying to lose
weight and we already have a lot

823
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,880
of fat on our body, we don't 
want to be burning somebody 

824
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,880
else's fat. 
We want to burn our own fat. 

825
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,000
Yeah. 
OK, that makes sense. 

826
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,920
So you, you got to cut the fat 
down while you're doing while 

827
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,880
you're doing fat loss, Once you 
get to the other side, you'll 

828
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,520
learn how much fat is 
appropriate for you. 

829
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:05,360
But you being in a ranching 
family, you'll know this. 

830
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:12,040
So the fat on on modern day 
agriculture is way different 

831
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,200
than on grass fed agriculture. 
Way different it is. 

832
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,400
And as tasty on grass fed, it 
also is harder to eat. 

833
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,480
It is like shoe leather. 
It is not as tempting as this 

834
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,040
big fluffy white fat that you 
see in the Wagyu or the prime 

835
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,880
rib or the rib eye on 
conventional corn fed soy fed 

836
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,960
beef it. 
Is it has less fat toxins right 

837
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,080
because the it's. 
Higher in Omega 6, low in 

838
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,240
omega-3, and yes, full of 
hormones. 

839
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:49,880
Grass fed beef is leaner. 
It still has higher amounts of 

840
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,000
fat. 
It's leaner, but it has fat that

841
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,760
isn't as edible. 
Yes, you can. 

842
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,560
You can eat as much of it as you
can, but it's not going to make 

843
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,120
you as fat as the conventionally
raised beef. 

844
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,880
It's just not so. 
But here's the deal. 

845
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,160
I would eat any day of the week.
I would eat a conventionally 

846
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:15,480
raised rib eye over pancakes, 
over sourdough toast, over 

847
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:21,200
pasta, over whatever healthy 
plant food they think that is 

848
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,280
going to make them healthy, 
right? 

849
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,480
No, meat is our proper fuel. 
But you have to know there's a 

850
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,440
spectrum on which it lies. 
Wild is the best. 

851
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,720
Next is grass fed farm, 
regenerative raised animals. 

852
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,240
And that's pretty good. 
I mean you're doing really good 

853
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,040
if you can do that in today's 
day and age, most people don't 

854
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,520
hunt now, but if you can get 
some wild game in there, you're 

855
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,680
doing even a little bit better. 
But like I said, there's people 

856
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,400
who can't do that They they 
can't afford the grass fed, so 

857
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,960
they have to go buy meat at the 
store. 

858
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,840
And if that's all you, you can 
do, that's all you can do, you 

859
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,400
know, don't. 
Don't let perfection be the 

860
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,320
enemy of good enough. 
Yeah, so conventionally raised 

861
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:02,880
ground beef is going to be 
better than like a bowl of 

862
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,920
cereal for breakfast. 
Yes, any day of the week. 

863
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,080
Yep. 
Okay, I want to hear about just 

864
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,320
how you eat. 
Like, what do you eat in a day? 

865
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,320
What does that look like for 
you? 

866
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,000
So it varies. 
When I'm traveling I try to eat 

867
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,680
around as much as I possibly 
can. 

868
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,920
So I'm kind of off plan right 
now. 

869
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,960
But when I'm home, you know, a 
lot of mornings if I'm not doing

870
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,320
a fast, I try to do a 48 hour 
fast every week. 

871
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,560
If I'm not fasting, then I eat 
whatever meat I have taken out. 

872
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,040
It's usually bison beef. 
A lot of times right now I've 

873
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,800
been eating a lot of just top 
sour line. 

874
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,040
I'll take out a couple top sour 
line steaks. 

875
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,080
I'll have sardines with that. 
I'll have my ferments. 

876
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,800
Sometimes I do eggs. 
So you'll do like. 

877
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,600
You'll do, like red meat with 
sardines? 

878
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Yeah. 
Like, together. 

879
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,480
Yeah. 
Interesting. 

880
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,280
I have. 100% Yep. 
You know I and sometimes I'll do

881
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,760
you know other things. 
Rarely do I eat processed meats.

882
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,800
I'll have Turkey bacon on 
occasion if I put it in a 

883
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,840
scramble. 
Do you ever eat regular bacon? 

884
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,840
I do eat regular bacon when I'm 
out very moderately. 

885
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,120
So like if I'm on vacation, 
that's my treat is just like 

886
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,640
regular bacon from the 
restaurant. 

887
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,880
Yeah. 
You know, that's what I consider

888
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,120
a treat because normally I 
wouldn't put it in my body 

889
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,280
because it's just the the animal
wasn't raised well. 

890
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,480
It's high Omega 6 fats. 
Pork is not great. 

891
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,160
It messes with our lymphatic 
system. 

892
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,600
So I just, but again, you know, 
I don't do anything else. 

893
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,240
You know, I, I am pretty clean. 
I don't eat. 

894
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,480
I, one of our friends asked the 
other day is like, you don't 

895
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,240
even just eat one bite of a warm
chocolate chip cookie. 

896
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,680
And I said, no, absolutely not. 
I've already eaten chocolate 

897
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,680
chip cookies. 
I know what they taste like and 

898
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,760
I know what they do to my body. 
And if you take one bite of that

899
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,120
cookie, you feed an enormous 
amount of bad bacteria just 

900
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,640
waiting to grow. 
Yeah. 

901
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,200
So it's not worth it for you? 
Forget it. 

902
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,080
What about fruit? 
Do you ever touch fruit? 

903
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,920
On occasion I'll have berries 
when they're in season. 

904
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,600
I will do berries usually try to
do like wild blackberries. 

905
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,000
Anything wild I will eat. 
You know, I might have a couple 

906
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,880
strawberries if they look good. 
I try not to eat strawberries 

907
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,560
because they're really, they're 
grown with fumigants and stuff. 

908
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:22,160
I would probably have something 
like that, You know, I mean, 

909
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,160
this has probably, what is this,
a little tangerine, a little 

910
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,680
Mandarin, hardly any carbs in 
this. 

911
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,960
I might eat one or two just, you
know, to put something in your 

912
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,360
mouth, but it's not my food. 
It's just a little taste of 

913
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,560
something different. 
I like to put citrus in water. 

914
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:42,720
So I mostly eat bison, elk. 
I have a lot of elk at my house 

915
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,200
and then we eat a lot of fish. 
OK. 

916
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,240
So salmon, cod, any, any kind of
local fish, wherever we are, 

917
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,920
we're always looking for a fish 
and anything out of the sea, so.

918
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,320
Pretty much meat or fish with 
ferments as a condiment. 

919
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,880
Do you? 
Veggies is a condiment too 

920
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,920
sometimes. 
Do you worry about Mercurian 

921
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,400
fish ever? 
Nope, I do not tell me because 

922
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,000
why? 
Well, because I tan a lot so 

923
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,520
melanin is actually the best 
heavy metal detox. 

924
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,840
I just learned this yes, doing 
interview prep for my next guest

925
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,240
today who's a heliotherapist. 
This is wild. 

926
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:24,400
Can you explain how this works? 
So this is actually Jack Cruz's 

927
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,960
stuff, Doctor Jack Cruz. 
So he, this is who I learned 

928
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,640
this from. 
He melanin detoxes mercury. 

929
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,080
So it works perfectly, right? 
We live by the sea and we eat 

930
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,840
the sea and then we're in the 
sun and we get that 

931
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,600
detoxification of the mercury 
out of our system. 

932
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,800
So it the melanin in the skin 
will like pulls the heavy metal.

933
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Breaks the heavy metal down. 
Excretes them. 

934
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,360
I don't know how the exact. 
Breaks them down the. 

935
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Process of it is, but it it, I 
don't know if it acts as a 

936
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,960
chelating agent or how it 
excretes it. 

937
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,800
I imagine it goes through the 
liver and the kidneys. 

938
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,200
It has to because it goes 
through the blood supply, but 

939
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,360
somehow it neutralizes it and 
helps you to detoxify from it. 

940
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,520
He's done massive work on it. 
You know, he's neurosurgeon and 

941
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,280
he studies the melanin in the 
brain specifically because 

942
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,560
mercury and aluminum and stuff 
can build up in the brain. 

943
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,800
Well, I didn't know we had 
melanin in our in our brain. 

944
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,720
It's. 
Called the Substantia Niagara 

945
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,480
and it's like this dark jet 
black dirt. 

946
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Apparently he talks about it a 
lot. 

947
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,600
That's inside the brain and. 
That is why our. 

948
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,040
Body is so. 
Smart. 

949
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,840
Yes, but that's why I try to 
keep a golden tan, because I 

950
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,600
want to make sure that my body 
is detoxifying. 

951
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,400
And, you know, I don't wear 
sunscreen. 

952
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,320
I haven't in years. 
I don't do Botox. 

953
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,880
I've never done Botox, never 
done injections of any kind. 

954
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,040
And. 
Your skin looks incredible. 

955
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,880
Six. 
I'm going to be 46 in a month, a

956
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,800
couple months. 
And that's another thing that 

957
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,200
you talk about. 
Your face changed a lot once you

958
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,600
made all of these changes to 
your diet and your lifestyle. 

959
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,240
And that happens with a lot of 
the women who go through your 

960
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,320
program also, right? 
Yes, they get more beautiful, so

961
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,400
they get these Pixie faces. 
So Doctor Shawn has studied 

962
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,920
this. 
People with higher amounts of 

963
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,880
visceral fat have, you know, 
inflammation in their face, but 

964
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,800
their noses grow. 
They get these bulbous look to 

965
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,880
their nose. 
Even women. 

966
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,640
I'm not talking about men 
without. 

967
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,240
Visceral fat. 
Your nose gets bigger, yes. 

968
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,360
What? 
Everything expands wider, 

969
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Longer. 
Yep. 

970
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,000
What? 
So my women, it's like a nose 

971
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,520
job. 
When they go through my program,

972
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,560
they get rid of their visceral 
fat, they get rid of their 

973
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,440
inflammation. 
Literally, their true noses come

974
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,480
through. 
Do you think some of that is 

975
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,320
because their jaw structure is 
improving their their bones 

976
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,920
because of all the meat that 
they're eating? 

977
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,920
You know, I mean, there could be
something with that 'cause 

978
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,800
they're chewing and all of it, 
but there is fat in the face. 

979
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,160
The fat the the fat in the face.
People are getting it removed 

980
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,440
right now. 
Yeah, yeah. 

981
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,760
So anytime you work on the fat 
in the body, it's going to help 

982
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,680
improve the fat in the face. 
So the visceral. 

983
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,320
Fat and the fat in the face. 
It's like when you get rid of 

984
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,560
the visceral fat, you're also 
getting rid of the the. 

985
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,240
Fat The fat in the. 
Fat in unwanted places 'cause we

986
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,720
want it. 
We want a little bit in the 

987
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,000
face, in the right place, but 
not superficial subcutaneous. 

988
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,280
Fat, yes, that's the fat we 
want. 

989
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,400
That's the fat that keeps your 
skin young. 

990
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,200
So old people don't have very 
much superficial subcutaneous 

991
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,600
fat. 
They that's why their skin gets 

992
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,840
thin and wrinkly, but they have 
a lot of visceral fat and that 

993
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,840
makes them hunch over. 
They get constipated. 

994
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,320
They can't have a bowel 
movement. 

995
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,280
You know, they get mild 
steotosis. 

996
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
They have no muscle. 
Their muscle starts to waste, 

997
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,320
Their brain starts to waste 
because the more muscle you 

998
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,000
have, the better brain, brain, 
you know, cognition you have. 

999
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,320
So they get, they just, they get
diseased and the disease starts 

1000
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,320
with the visceral fat, the fat 
suffocating your organs. 

1001
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,880
And fat is actually a pro 
inflammatory organ like it 

1002
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520
excretes and. 
Except superficial, right? 

1003
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,800
Superficial is 
anti-inflammatory. 

1004
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,520
Adiponectin is 
anti-inflammatory, but deep 

1005
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,040
subcu, visceral fat, heart fat, 
myelsteotosis, which is fat in 

1006
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,400
your muscles, fat in your face. 
That fat is inflammatory. 

1007
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,960
So many kinds of fat. 
So how do we get rid of the 

1008
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,320
wrong types of fat and build 
more of the right kind of fat 

1009
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,280
that we want? 
That is the question, 

1010
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,520
girlfriend. 
So this is what we do at Primal 

1011
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,000
Bod. 
This is exactly what we do. 

1012
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,720
We also help prevent your body 
from eating away at its muscle 

1013
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,320
because that's what happens most
people, if they do fasting or 

1014
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,200
they're trying to do restricted 
calories or whatever, they end 

1015
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,400
up eating away at their muscle. 
This is what Ozempic. 

1016
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,080
Does right? 
And so you get the Ozempic face 

1017
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,840
and you look like horrible from 
Ozempic. 

1018
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,040
Hollow and. 
Low metabolism, yeah, the life 

1019
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,000
force is taken out of you. 
But in primal body, we don't do 

1020
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,400
that. 
We want to preserve the muscle 

1021
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,240
and build the muscle but burn 
the bad fat. 

1022
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,200
So there's a specific way to do 
that through ketosis. 

1023
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,800
And it's really freaking hard 
for almost everybody to figure 

1024
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,040
out. 
I don't even know how I figured 

1025
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,920
it out, honestly. 
It was Tom with the diabetes, 

1026
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,960
the insulin, understanding 
glycogen, understanding anatomy 

1027
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,800
of the body. 
And I just put it together so 

1028
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,560
that, you know, women can 
understand how their bodies work

1029
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:08,840
because it's different for 
everyone. 

1030
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:11,520
Everyone has their own metabolic
rate. 

1031
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Some women are through 
menopause, some women are still 

1032
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,440
having their periods. 
Some women are 51, some women 

1033
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,840
are 510. 
Some women over workout, some 

1034
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,560
women under workout. 
So there's all these factors 

1035
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,560
that make it confusing and you 
don't understand what am I 

1036
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,360
doing? 
Is it working? 

1037
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,560
Is it not? 
But what we do at Primal Body is

1038
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,280
we help them to learn what their
body's needs are. 

1039
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,240
How much protein do you need to 
eat to preserve your muscle, 

1040
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:41,720
help support your metabolism, 
but also eat enough that you get

1041
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:45,080
into fat burning? 
Because if you eat too much, you

1042
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,400
might not burn fat. 
If you eat too little, you'll 

1043
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,280
slow your metabolism down and 
then you really won't burn fat 

1044
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,160
either. 
There is a Goldilocks, but it's 

1045
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,440
different for everyone and 
that's why we track blood 

1046
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,680
ketones, so we can show the 
girls by them tracking their 

1047
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,560
blood ketones what your ketones 
are doing today. 

1048
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,720
OK, now we know you're in that 
exact spot. 

1049
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,360
That's how much meat you need. 
We call it the Goldilocks zone 

1050
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,280
to sustain this fat burning 
until you get all the fat burned

1051
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,080
off your body. 
Then we have a new set of 

1052
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,040
instructions, which is then you 
have a new Goldilocks to find. 

1053
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,800
How much meat do you need to 
stain yourself in your perfect 

1054
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,480
primal body, your bikini body? 
That's what I get. 

1055
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,640
The girls you're getting in 
bikinis, ladies like this is 

1056
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,160
what we're doing. 
So you want it. 

1057
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,840
We don't do the scale. 
You know, we do do the scale to 

1058
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,000
watch, but the scale really 
doesn't mean much. 

1059
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,800
You know you want to be strong, 
and who cares what the scale 

1060
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,960
says, because muscle's heavy, 
right? 

1061
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,920
So you want to be stringing. 
You don't want to be skinny fat.

1062
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,360
So the Dojo, or I say Dojo mojo 
because I used to have a mojo, 

1063
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,960
Yeah, Keto mojo, yeah. 
That's like the main thing that 

1064
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,920
you're using to measure for 
people to measure and figure 

1065
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,920
that out. 
Yes, we use a couple different 

1066
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,120
tools. 
I like the Keto Sense. 

1067
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,280
That one's my favorite. 
We use the Keto Mojo because 

1068
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,600
there's girls overseas that do 
my program and you can only get 

1069
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,960
the Keto Mojo overseas. 
It's this weird thing, so we 

1070
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,640
use. 
Ketos like a finger prick. 

1071
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Thing tiny little finger prick, 
a little bit of blood on the 

1072
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,120
tester and you know if you're in
fat burning or not, if you're 

1073
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,840
too high in fat burning or too 
low in fat burning. 

1074
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,760
So what's the sweet spot in 
terms of ketone measurements? 

1075
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,640
Where do you want people to be 
at? 

1076
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,920
Yeah, it's, you know, it's 
really tricky because I've had 

1077
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,160
girls in my program who have had
low ketones and they lose like 

1078
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,120
30 lbs in three months. 
So it, it is a tricky thing to 

1079
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,840
like just put an exact number on
it. 

1080
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,800
But mostly nutritional ketosis 
is 1.5 to 2.5. 

1081
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,120
That's like the general 
guidelines to have that you 

1082
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,800
start going higher on that. 
That's where you end up in 

1083
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,600
problems. 
You know, doctors will take you 

1084
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,920
higher on their own. 
Like for seizures, you know, 

1085
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,480
epilepsy is treated with 
ketosis. 

1086
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,880
They get ketones up high into 
the sixes and sevens in 

1087
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,920
hospitals. 
But that's like working with 

1088
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,080
doctor territory. 
But you know, it's like you want

1089
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,080
to be between 1.5 to 2.5, but 
you got to be careful because 

1090
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,880
there's, like I said, there's 
all these other things at play. 

1091
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,120
What's the downside of being of 
your levels being too high? 

1092
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Well, you're eating and wet your
muscle. 

1093
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,840
That's a very good question. 
That's one thing you can also, 

1094
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,840
you know, you can damage your 
body because ketoacidosis, which

1095
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,600
is really hard for most people 
to get into ketoacidosis. 

1096
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,840
Type 1 diabetics usually are who
it happens to regular people 

1097
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,240
mostly they'll just eat away at 
their muscles and bring their 

1098
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,720
ketone levels down by raising 
their glucose levels up by 

1099
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:39,280
eating away at their muscle. 
So that's what you don't want to

1100
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,520
happen. 
That's why we follow our our 

1101
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,160
guidelines because we don't want
women to eat away at their 

1102
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,880
muscle. 
We want them to get stronger 

1103
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,120
while they're doing the program.
So we really focus on making 

1104
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,000
sure that everything makes 
sense. 

1105
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,880
So there's blood sugar too to 
consider. 

1106
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,320
You know, some people can get 
really high ketones and their 

1107
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,360
blood Sugar's stable and they're
just have high ketones because 

1108
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,760
their body has a lot of visceral
fat. 

1109
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,280
So they're making ketones 
readily. 

1110
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:09,320
And but what happens is 
eventually the body adapts. 

1111
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,920
It doesn't want to burn the fat,
so it'll what? 

1112
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,480
Are your. 
Metabolic rate to match whatever

1113
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,360
you're doing. 
And then it just stops and then 

1114
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,800
you're like, how can I get back 
into ketosis? 

1115
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,880
That's what we help people do. 
OK, this is it can be so tricky.

1116
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,200
Are there, if you're in the 
right level of ketosis, is there

1117
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,160
any, do you have any concerns 
with being in ketosis for 

1118
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,720
extended periods of time and 
never coming out of it? 

1119
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,520
I'm always in ketosis and I've 
been in ketosis for three years.

1120
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,360
I've never been out. 
I have been in ketosis at a low 

1121
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,360
range. 
Then when I fast I go higher. 

1122
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,400
I try to get my my ketones 
between 2:00 and 3:00 once a 

1123
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,760
week at my 48 hour mark of my 
fast. 

1124
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,560
The rest of the time I keep my 
ketones below .8, so below .8. 

1125
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,280
I'm still burning fat for fuel, 
but my blood Sugar's great. 

1126
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,720
So I'm utilizing both of my fuel
sources, glucose and fat. 

1127
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,880
So you just won't get fat if you
do that? 

1128
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,480
And just glucose you're making, 
your body is making it right 

1129
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,000
from the meat that you're 
eating. 

1130
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,920
Exactly. 
Yeah. 

1131
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,000
Bethany knows how much 
girlfriend. 

1132
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,560
I love it, yes. 
How does that work? 

1133
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,840
Can you explain that for our 
audience? 

1134
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,440
Yes, that is gluconeogenesis. 
So all meat is broken down to 

1135
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,280
glucose. 
Your body really only has 2 fuel

1136
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,560
sources, one is fat and one is 
glucose. 

1137
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,880
Carbohydrates are not essential 
that that is not a fuel source. 

1138
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,360
Carbohydrates breakdown to 
glucose, but so does meat. 

1139
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,400
The meat breaks down to glucose 
too. 

1140
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,600
So you can get all the glucose 
you need by eating meat. 

1141
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,760
You can also get all the amino 
acids you need by meeting eating

1142
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,000
meat, but you can't do that from
plants. 

1143
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,560
You can't get all your essential
amino acids from plants. 

1144
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,720
They want to tell you you can, 
but you can't. 

1145
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,400
Tell us about your fasting 
regimen 48 hours a week. 

1146
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,120
I think most people would think 
that is a lot of fasting. 

1147
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,440
How do you do that in a way that
works with your body and not 

1148
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,280
against it? 
I'm really careful about where 

1149
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,200
I'm at with my hormones, so it's
harder for girls who are having 

1150
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,600
their period to fast menopausal 
women. 

1151
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,400
You don't have to worry. 
You're not having a baby 

1152
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,400
anymore. 
You your ovaries are done. 

1153
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,440
You're not producing eggs. 
So the body doesn't really care 

1154
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,800
about you storing excess fat 
unless you have low estrogen, 

1155
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,360
and then it will make a lot of 
fat 'cause that's fat makes 

1156
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,800
estrogen. 
But for girls in their 

1157
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,440
childbearing years, their body's
really sensitive about fat 

1158
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,280
burning. 
Their body doesn't want to burn 

1159
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,200
fat because you need to have fat
on your body to help a fetus 

1160
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,560
grow. 
So I'm really careful. 

1161
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:45,040
I don't fast around ovulation. 
If I'm hungry around ovulation 

1162
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,400
or hungry during my period, I do
not fast. 

1163
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,440
But mostly I'm pretty good. 
I know now my schedule, my 

1164
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,960
routine and my cycles are always
on time. 

1165
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,080
So I know exactly when I can do 
my 48 hour fasting. 

1166
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:02,040
And it it is a challenge. 
I will say that you know, the 

1167
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,200
more you do it, the better you 
get at it and you'll crave it 

1168
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,520
eventually. 
The challenging part is when you

1169
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:13,160
do a 48 hour fast every week. 
You need to feast in the days 

1170
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,120
you're eating. 
You need to really be able to 

1171
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,920
put down some meat. 
So I can easily eat 200 to 300 

1172
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,000
grams of protein a day easily. 
And that's not a problem for me.

1173
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,280
But it's because I fast two days
a week that I can eat 300 grams 

1174
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,200
of protein or more on a day and 
have no repercussions of it. 

1175
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,120
I have learned my body is so 
adapted to do that. 

1176
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,920
It takes time to get there. 
It does. 

1177
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,480
I I recommend people start with 
124 hour fast a week. 

1178
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,040
And then when you feel like you 
can do more and do more, but you

1179
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,040
have to be able to feast. 
If you don't feast and you fast 

1180
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,000
that much, you will slow your 
metabolic rate down. 

1181
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,120
Yeah, it'll fall out. 
You'll have. 

1182
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,600
You'll be weak. 
I think that's what a lot of 

1183
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,320
women get wrong when it comes to
fasting. 

1184
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,920
I used to do a lot of fasting 
and I don't do as much anymore 

1185
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,920
and I time it with my cycle. 
I actually want to start doing 

1186
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,960
more because I've really backed 
off and I do miss it. 

1187
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,840
Like what you're describing. 
Your body starts craving it once

1188
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,640
it develops that metabolic 
flexibility and it's not as 

1189
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,040
miserable when you when you 
fast. 

1190
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,400
It's like your brain works 
better, your skin looks better, 

1191
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,920
all kinds of good things are you
get your. 

1192
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,520
Ketones up human growth hormone 
is at its highest level at 48 

1193
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,520
hours for women in a fast. 
For men, at 72, their human 

1194
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,680
growth hormone peaks. 
It's at 72 hours of a fast. 

1195
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,240
For women it's 48. 
So at 48 hours we are at that 

1196
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,200
elevated human growth hormone. 
And human growth hormone is the 

1197
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,160
hormone for young people, it is 
the kid hormone. 

1198
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,960
So it is why we age, because we 
don't fast, we don't trigger 

1199
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,240
that human growth hormone. 
And so every week I want my 

1200
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,280
human growth hormone high 
because I want to stay young. 

1201
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,880
So that's why I can do it. 
It can actually make you more 

1202
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,720
youthful by elevating exactly 
HGH levels and it is muscle 

1203
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,560
building easier when you have 
when your HGH is elevated. 

1204
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,720
It is it will, it will be 
depending on your testosterone 

1205
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,760
levels because they work 
together and insulin, insulin is

1206
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,720
also a factor for muscle growth 
as well. 

1207
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,440
So you want to have that all 
perfect. 

1208
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,040
You want to have high 
testosterone, high human growth 

1209
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,880
hormone and you want to have 
just enough insulin that your 

1210
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,560
body is making that muscle. 
And then of course the the 

1211
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,920
weight bearing exercise because 
you won't blow muscle unless 

1212
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,880
you're weight bearing. 
So do you tailor your workout 

1213
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,960
routine around your fasting at 
all? 

1214
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,440
What does that do? 
What does that look like for 

1215
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,000
you? 
What is your workout routine? 

1216
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,240
So we just got a gym belt in our
house and I love it. 

1217
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,680
We had a Smith machine, so I 
would dink around with like 

1218
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,640
hardly anything. 
I didn't lift weights for two 

1219
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,800
years. 
I kind of got to a point in my 

1220
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,640
life when I started Primal Bod 
where I was like, I am tired of 

1221
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,400
working out. 
I've done so much working out 

1222
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,400
and I was just over. 
My body needed a rest and it was

1223
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,360
like 2 years of resting. 
All I did was walk. 

1224
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,840
I walked and I wore a weighted 
vest. 

1225
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,800
That's where I'm at in life. 
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong 

1226
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,080
with that. 
You can build a freaking bikini 

1227
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,080
body with a weighted vest in 
walking. 

1228
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,000
And I did squats with it on and 
some lunges here and there. 

1229
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,280
But a couple times a week, I 
mean, I wasn't doing anything 

1230
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,320
serious, but I realized that I 
had developed a lot of slow 

1231
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,800
twitch muscles doing that in my 
fast twitch muscles were not 

1232
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,160
there. 
So I wanted to get, you know, 

1233
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,200
that runner's booty. 
I want to get that sprinter 

1234
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,800
booty. 
I wanted to get the fast twitch 

1235
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,440
muscles. 
So and I do Sprint, you know, 

1236
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,800
but I'm not as as good at it as 
I want to be. 

1237
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,800
But now that we have the gym, 
I've been lifting and I've been 

1238
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,320
really getting into lifting to 
failure because that failure 

1239
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,240
part is the struggle which helps
burn visceral fat. 

1240
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,000
When you're struggling for 
anything, sprinting, high 

1241
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:57,520
intensity jiu jitsu, that fight,
that dominate fight that will 

1242
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,000
burn visceral fat. 
Yeah, so. 

1243
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,040
What if shot is fat? 
Sprinted in college and she was 

1244
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,120
like, if you want to burn the 
belly fat, like you've got to 

1245
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,240
Sprint, it's the best way to do 
it. 

1246
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,160
And she had no belly fat. 
But when you Sprint, I mean, you

1247
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,920
got to run like you're running 
from a Mountain Lion. 

1248
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,440
Like you have to like run. 
You have to do it. 

1249
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,960
And so now I'm lifting weights 
like I am fighting for like a 

1250
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,520
boulder fell on me. 
So I'm getting there. 

1251
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,120
I'm also doing the the burnout 
method where I'm doing like 

1252
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,600
light with high reps because I 
think both is important. 

1253
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,440
So I'm doing the weight 
training, trying to build up my 

1254
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,920
fast twitch muscles. 
And you know, I will work out on

1255
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,160
the first day of my fast and 
then I don't on my second day of

1256
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,120
my fast. 
I take it as a full rest day. 

1257
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,760
Are you, are you, are you hungry
then? 

1258
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,720
Like do you feel like you refuel
after you work out? 

1259
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,120
I go through waves of hunger, 
yeah, but I'm so fat adapted 

1260
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,760
that it doesn't come until about
36 hours in. 

1261
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,400
I start feeling a little bit of 
like, OK, I'm hungry, but I 

1262
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,320
always base it on a scale. 
How hungry am I? 

1263
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,000
Zero to 10? 
Oh, I'm like a three. 

1264
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,400
I'm not really that hungry. 
OK, I can keep going. 

1265
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,680
And then I just keep going. 
And then before I know it, I'm 

1266
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,080
like, oh, I could go a whole 
another day. 

1267
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,520
You know, like you'll have 
little waves, but again, you go 

1268
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,360
drink a little fermented pickle 
juice and it immediately goes 

1269
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,560
away. 
Such a good hack. 

1270
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,800
And you're and or go play 
outside and it immediately goes.

1271
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,320
Away being in the sun, yeah. 
And you're just like, oh, I'm 

1272
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,960
fine, I don't. 
I think that's another thing 

1273
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,320
people don't realize about 
fasting. 

1274
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,560
The hunger doesn't like build 
and build and build until it's 

1275
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,520
intolerable. 
Yeah, feel it. 

1276
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,160
You experience it and then it 
kind of subsides. 

1277
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,080
And then, yeah, it comes back 
and then it subsides again. 

1278
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,000
When you start burning fat, 
you're you get jet fuel, you get

1279
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,200
ketones, you feel like 
Energizer, buzzy Bunny. 

1280
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,440
But you also, your appetite goes
away because you're burning the 

1281
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,880
fat on your body. 
Yeah, but then your body catches

1282
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,120
on to that. 
Hi, sweetheart. 

1283
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,720
And your body's like, holy 
smokes, I'm, we're burning fat. 

1284
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,360
We got to stop this. 
So then you get hungry, you 

1285
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,080
know, so your body has all these
checks and balances to keep you 

1286
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:05,360
alive, but knowing it is the 
gold, Knowing what's happening 

1287
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,000
is like, OK, I'm not going to 
die. 

1288
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,200
There's plenty of food around. 
I'm doing this for the health 

1289
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,320
benefits. 
You'll relax your 

1290
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,080
parasympathetical turn on and 
you'll you'll not in a stress 

1291
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,120
mode. 
So it's good for you. 

1292
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,720
One thing people will say about 
fasting is that when when you 

1293
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,520
are, you know, quote like 
starving your body, then when 

1294
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,720
you eat again, your body will 
hold on to that food as fat. 

1295
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:36,280
What would you say to that? 
I think what more happens is 

1296
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,520
people, when they do do things 
like that, calorie restrict and 

1297
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,400
then go back to eating, they do 
come in with a lowered metabolic

1298
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,440
rate. 
And so their metabolism's just 

1299
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,840
kind of screwed. 
It's lower, but I do think they 

1300
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,960
tend to overeat more carbs to 
put the fat back on. 

1301
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,600
Yeah. 
They just aren't realizing 

1302
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,400
that's what's happening. 
And carved. 

1303
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,240
Biological desire, right? 
You're going to want to like 

1304
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,160
guess stuff your face and and 
build fat, but that's where I 

1305
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,320
guess you just need to have 
food, some discipline and eat 

1306
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,440
the right foods coming out you. 
Need to change. 

1307
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,800
If you want your reality to 
change, you have to change your 

1308
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,680
personality. 
That's Doctor Joe Dispenza. 

1309
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,880
Change your personality, which 
means you're not going to fall 

1310
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,040
into the old trap of who you 
were with just going back and 

1311
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,200
getting yourself fat again. 
Yeah, right. 

1312
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,520
I mean, the fat isn't serving 
you, it's it's causing disease. 

1313
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,880
So you just need to see it for 
what it is. 

1314
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,440
And like you said, have the 
self-control and stop yourself 

1315
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,720
from eating the foods that make 
you fat. 

1316
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,480
Eat the meat. 
The meat isn't going to make you

1317
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,320
fat. 
Yeah. 

1318
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,360
But meat will also give you 
enough fuel that you won't burn 

1319
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,200
your own fat if you're not 
careful. 

1320
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,960
This is why the carnivores get 
plateaued. 

1321
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,480
You eat just the right amount of
meat and your body's like we 

1322
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,800
don't have to tap into our fat. 
So but meat in general isn't 

1323
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,080
going to make you fat. 
And actually they studied this 

1324
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:54,880
and I can't remember the guy's 
name, but I just watched a 

1325
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,040
podcast. 
He was talking super awesome and

1326
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,800
he was saying they did all these
studies and they found that you 

1327
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,000
can eat as much protein as you 
want. 

1328
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,760
You're not going to get fat. 
It'll you'll build more muscle 

1329
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,480
and the body will just utilize 
it and then you're just not 

1330
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,720
going to get fat from it. 
So, and that's what I found. 

1331
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,240
I've done my own private studies
on my own body and what I've 

1332
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,840
noticed is, you know, I can go a
whole month and feast and eat 

1333
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,240
200 to 300 grams of protein 
every single day and I don't 

1334
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,800
gain any weight. 
Wow. 

1335
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,840
So. 
How do most people like? 

1336
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,880
Can this be something that you 
approach pretty intuitively or 

1337
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,240
do do you recommend that people 
need to be calculating like 

1338
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,880
grams of protein based on height
and different things at? 

1339
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,800
First they need to calculate 
because they need to learn. 

1340
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,840
It have never done. 
I feel like I'm kind of averse 

1341
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,200
to it. 
Yeah, I know I was too. 

1342
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,880
But honestly, once you learn it,
you'll never have to learn it 

1343
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,200
again because meat is our proper
fuel. 

1344
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,000
And once you learn how much meat
you need, you'll know I need to 

1345
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,200
be eating near that. 
Now. 

1346
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,560
You'll have moments of intuitive
eating where you're like, I'm 

1347
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,080
not that hungry today. 
That'll be your hormone cycle. 

1348
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,200
And that's when you go, OK, I'm 
just not, I'm OK. 

1349
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,440
I'm just on fast today. 
So it doesn't have to be rigid, 

1350
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:09,480
but most women under eat protein
and they don't know how much 

1351
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,760
muscle they could have if they 
ate the right amount of protein.

1352
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,279
So that's where I I say they 
need to calculate for a while 

1353
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:18,240
and understand what their true 
needs are. 

1354
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,760
I've heard you talk about 
fasting and sagging skin, like 

1355
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:28,080
specifically the little gobble. 
Can fasting help the skin to be 

1356
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,000
more youthful and plump and less
saggy? 

1357
01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:37,640
I've seen it in my in my group, 
I've seen the women, their skin 

1358
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,319
has gotten so much better the 24
hour fast that we do every week.

1359
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:43,600
I mean, it's just incredible 
what you can see over three 

1360
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,000
months just in their skin. 
So I have a lot of women that 

1361
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,479
are really heavy. 
They have a lot of weight to 

1362
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,880
lose. 
They get the sagging skin. 

1363
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,920
Most of these women, if they 
hadn't done Primal bot, if they 

1364
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,960
had done Ozempic, if they've 
done something else, they would 

1365
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,520
have needed, needed a tummy 
tuck. 

1366
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,359
Honestly, they would have needed
it and they leave my program and

1367
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,399
they don't need that. 
Everything tightens the skin. 

1368
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:08,399
This whole declitage area gets 
better with fasting, but you 

1369
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:11,760
have to think of it like your 
body is breaking down old dead, 

1370
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,960
decayed cells. 
Yeah, Is that autophagy? 

1371
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,560
Is that what's happening 
exactly? 

1372
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,640
So then new stem cells can be 
produced and new cells can be 

1373
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,359
born healthier cells. 
So if you've been feeding 

1374
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:27,840
yourself carbs, you're like 
building a body out of 

1375
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,800
cardboard. 
If you're feeding yourself meat 

1376
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,520
and healthy fats, you're 
building out of raw material. 

1377
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,000
The the nutrients we need to 
build those vibrant cells that 

1378
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,520
come through healthy and young, 
youthful. 

1379
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,960
Yeah, I've heard Doctor Jason 
Fung talk about that, patients 

1380
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,439
that, I mean he does extended 
fasting protocols with people 

1381
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,040
who really need it, who are 
overweight and people when 

1382
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,120
they're done with these extended
fast, people that would 

1383
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,800
typically need like a skin 
surgery afterwards don't need it

1384
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,840
because the fasting in the 
autophagy kind of takes care of 

1385
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,240
that issue. 
Exactly. 

1386
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,800
What about insulin? 
How does chronically elevated 

1387
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,120
insulin show up on the skin 
before it ever shows up on a lab

1388
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,160
test? 
That's a really good question. 

1389
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:15,000
Skin tags is a big one. 
So skin tags, cystic acne can be

1390
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,000
assigned because you're dealing 
with polycystic ovarian 

1391
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,160
syndrome, you know, facial hair,
that's all polycystic ovarian 

1392
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,600
syndrome and that is diabetes of
the ovaries. 

1393
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,400
So PCOS, when you form cysts in 
your ovaries, that is a sign 

1394
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,240
that your ovaries are insulin 
resistant. 

1395
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,800
That's fascinating. 
I've never heard anyone say 

1396
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,640
that. 
I've heard Alzheimer's described

1397
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,200
as type 3 diabetes. 
Are can can insulin kind of 

1398
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:45,360
impact any organ system within 
the body? 

1399
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,200
Like is, does it just kind of go
to different places depending on

1400
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,160
where you're like genetically 
vulnerable? 

1401
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:56,240
It goes to where the receptor is
so that the ovaries have some of

1402
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,600
the highest amounts of insulin 
receptors on them. 

1403
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,000
Which makes sense, right? 
Because the mother, if she's 

1404
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,040
going through a famine and is 
starving, the blood sugar levels

1405
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,600
drop low. 
So the body senses that the 

1406
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,880
blood Sugar's low, the ovaries 
will sense it first, and the 

1407
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,400
mother will will not drop an 
egg. 

1408
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,040
This is why a lot of women who 
overwork out and over diet lose 

1409
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,200
their periods because they're 
not getting that insulin in 

1410
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,120
there to trigger the egg to 
release. 

1411
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,840
And that's why you don't want us
fast. 

1412
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,960
Too close to ovulation, right? 
Because your body will sense I. 

1413
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,160
Actually noticed that when I was
doing more fasting, if I fasted 

1414
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:36,120
in the follicular phase, like 
too close to ovulation, my 

1415
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,400
ovulation would get delayed. 
Yes. 

1416
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:41,480
Like I would still ovulate, but 
it wouldn't happen when it 

1417
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:42,520
normally does. 
Right. 

1418
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,840
And it's because the body 
doesn't want to get pregnant if 

1419
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,480
you're under a stressful event, 
which is in our situation for 

1420
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:52,080
humans, it's a famine is the 
most common stressful event for 

1421
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,360
most humans or it was, it's not 
now, but it was. 

1422
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,040
So that's that's why. 
So it's really nature's birth 

1423
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,440
control. 
And the the same thing can 

1424
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:06,640
actually be happening, but 
because of a different reason, 

1425
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,640
because of the chronically high 
insulin, the antibody can shut 

1426
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,400
down in the same way that yeah, 
when the body becomes resistant 

1427
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,360
to it. 
Yes, you'll develop a cystic 

1428
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,600
environment. 
Also high insulin environment is

1429
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,320
also related to endometriosis, 
All kinds of hormonal, not just 

1430
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,520
PCOS, but other issues. 
So you know, polyps are a sign 

1431
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,520
of insulin resistance. 
Any kind of growth is a sign of 

1432
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,920
insulin resistance, like growth 
that you don't want. 

1433
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:37,080
Cystic acne, zits, you know, 
skin tags all can be signs of 

1434
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,160
insulin resistance and later 
that turns into diabetes. 

1435
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:43,640
Yeah, yeah. 
And man, I'm just thinking about

1436
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,160
all the women that are 
struggling to get pregnant and 

1437
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,920
going to these fertility clinics
like you mentioned, when really 

1438
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,400
in a lot of cases, maybe they 
just need to understand how 

1439
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,840
their insulin works. 
Yes. 

1440
01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:59,480
That's wild Diet aside, what are
some other ways that we can 

1441
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:05,600
regulate our insulin response? 
So I think one of the bigger 

1442
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,640
ones for me is coffee being able
to be free of the addiction of 

1443
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,560
caffeine, because coffee will 
make you a sugar burner. 

1444
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:18,160
It makes you release cortisol. 
Cortisol triggers a glycogen 

1445
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,080
dump. 
Glycogen is excess glucose that 

1446
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,960
we keep in our liver and our 
thighs for backup sugar. 

1447
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,840
And anytime you drink coffee, 
you trigger that glycogen 

1448
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,640
release, which elevates your 
blood sugar. 

1449
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,400
So you're just in a moment of 
fight or flight all day, which 

1450
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,240
means you're constantly 
producing sugar. 

1451
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,480
So coffee would be a big one. 
Lack of sleep. 

1452
01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:41,280
Also, you know, sleep, a lack of
sleep can raise your blood sugar

1453
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,960
up just naturally because you're
in fight or flight, because 

1454
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,400
you're not refreshed, your brain
is not refreshed. 

1455
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,600
So it triggers the sympathetic 
mode to be in fight or flight. 

1456
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,960
So you're more alert. 
So you produce more cortisol. 

1457
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,400
Really it comes down to 
cortisol. 

1458
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,400
But yeah, I think that, you 
know, mostly it's the food. 

1459
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,480
Mostly it's the food and the 
lack of movement. 

1460
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,840
Movement is another big part to 
help. 

1461
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,120
If you these people that eat a 
lot of carbs, if you move like 

1462
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:15,400
an NFL player or like a 
ballerina, you can have more 

1463
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,280
carbs and tolerate it. 
It doesn't mean you're not going

1464
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,080
to develop insulin resistance 
later on, because a lot of them 

1465
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,880
do. 
But you can eat them and not get

1466
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,400
fat, but you have to move that 
much, but your body still will 

1467
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,280
produce the insulin. 
So you're still later down the 

1468
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,840
road develop insulin resistance.
These guys that are doing these 

1469
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,040
races, you know, and they're 
taking these glucose packets and

1470
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,120
they're fueling and all this 
glucose stuff as they're going, 

1471
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,800
and they're eating copious 
amounts of glucose. 

1472
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,680
And they're super thin, lean 
cyclists. 

1473
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,400
But they're now getting insulin 
resistance and type 2 diabetes 

1474
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,160
from it because they're just 
overdoing the glucose. 

1475
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,640
Yeah. 
So it'll still catch up with 

1476
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,880
you. 
You mentioned coffee. 

1477
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,440
I'm sure you get a ton of 
pushback on that. 

1478
01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:04,560
No one wants to hear that. 
Is coffee also affecting our 

1479
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,320
skin and making women less 
attractive? 

1480
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,360
Oh my gosh, yes, for sure. 
This is why we see such awesome 

1481
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,200
before and afters in my program 
with the girls with their skin. 

1482
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,000
I mean, it just big 10 years 
goes off their face 'cause 

1483
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,520
coffee dehydrates you, it 
dehydrates the skin and then you

1484
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,040
form wrinkles. 
So yeah, it's very dehydrating. 

1485
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,120
It's super acidic. 
It's it's a toxin. 

1486
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:29,560
Going back to movement real 
quick, I know you also talk 

1487
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,320
about moving after meals. 
What would you recommend as just

1488
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,720
kind of a standard thing for 
people to do after they eat to 

1489
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:41,000
regulate blood sugar? 
You know, even if you can only 

1490
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,400
just get out and do a 10 minute 
walk, it's better than nothing 

1491
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,040
if you can't get out and walk. 
Like if you're just like on your

1492
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,880
lunch break, drop down and do 40
squats. 

1493
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,120
Just do 40 squats. 
Go in the bathroom if you don't 

1494
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,200
want to do them in front of 
anybody. 

1495
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,320
That will activate your blood 
flow. 

1496
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,760
It will get your your muscles 
working and it will just make 

1497
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,400
you more insulin sensitive. 
But you know, insulin is 

1498
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,440
released in the pancreas and 
then it goes throughout the 

1499
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:04,600
bloodstream. 
So the more you can increase 

1500
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,840
your circulation through a walk 
or doing squats, you're going to

1501
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,880
move that insulin around and 
it's going to activate the 

1502
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,680
glucose. 
And anytime it activates the 

1503
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,880
glucose, it lowers the blood 
sugar. 

1504
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,640
But if you don't activate it and
you're just sitting and the 

1505
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,960
insulin's just pulling, your 
blood sugar will stay elevated 

1506
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,840
and your brain will say, oh, the
Sugar's elevated still, we need 

1507
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,560
to produce more insulin. 
So you will over produce 

1508
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,480
insulin. 
So getting out and going for a 

1509
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,280
15 minute walk after you each 
time after you eat. 

1510
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,160
Super super helpful. 
But I recommend everyone walk 

1511
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,880
for seven miles a day on top of 
what they're walking around in 

1512
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,360
their house and their normal 
day. 

1513
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,960
Walking is the best. 
It is the best. 

1514
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,600
Way to burn fat. 
Yeah. 

1515
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:51,320
And I do 15 jumping squats. 
So I don't know, like 40 normal 

1516
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,280
squats. 
Like maybe I need to be doing 

1517
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,840
like 20 to, I mean, like that 
same level as what 40, like 

1518
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,680
normal squats would do. 
But I don't know. 

1519
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,240
It's become a habit. 
And I was on a long flight a few

1520
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,160
days ago. 
And so I wasn't able, there 

1521
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,000
wasn't enough room in the 
bathroom to do that. 

1522
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,920
Like, it was frustrating. 
And I felt it like I felt just 

1523
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,120
like, stagnant and sticky. 
And so I started doing, like, 

1524
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,640
calf raises just to do a little 
something. 

1525
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,520
Yes. 
But yeah, once you get in the 

1526
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,360
habit of it, it just feels so 
much better. 

1527
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,000
I think a lot of people have 
restless leg syndrome because 

1528
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,600
they're not walking enough. 
Yeah. 

1529
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,120
You know, like, go out and get 
your energy out, go walk. 

1530
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,320
Yeah, also a bad gut can cause 
that. 

1531
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,160
But I think like, just walk. 
So 7 miles a day? 

1532
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,440
How long does that take? 
It takes about two hours, so I 

1533
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:41,000
split it up. 
I do 3 1/2 in the morning and 3 

1534
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,920
1/2 in the evening and we just 
go. 

1535
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,760
Sometimes I wear my way to best,
sometimes I don't, depending on 

1536
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,280
the weather. 
But being outside for two hours 

1537
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,040
a day, it is so helpful for your
eyes, for your skin, for your 

1538
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,600
mood, for your lungs. 
You're breathing in fresh air. 

1539
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,280
You know, you're adjusting to 
the temperature. 

1540
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,720
You're circulating your blood. 
I mean, there is nothing like 

1541
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,440
walking. 
Yeah, especially if you can get 

1542
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:05,200
out in the morning like you sat 
aside. 

1543
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:06,800
Yeah. 
Not on a treadmill. 

1544
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,520
Your eyes get outside and do it.
So important. 

1545
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,160
OK, I want to quickly go over a 
few concerns that people may 

1546
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,640
have about eating a lot of meat.
One is cholesterol. 

1547
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,840
What would you say to anyone 
who's concerned about 

1548
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,920
cholesterol when eating a high 
meat diet? 

1549
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,720
Well, this is a good one because
they've kind of got some new 

1550
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,000
studies on this now. 
And So what they've learned is 

1551
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,800
low cholesterol is actually 
linked to all 'cause mortality, 

1552
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,520
really, but high cholesterol is 
actually linked to nothing. 

1553
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,920
So. 
This is a big scam. 

1554
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:42,320
I think you know, there is 
something to be said about it 

1555
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,640
because you can. 
Cholesterol is a healing tool 

1556
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:46,960
for the body. 
It's it's. 

1557
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,480
Like so good for the brain. 
It's like the body's natural 

1558
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:52,360
Neosporin. 
I mean, it's, it's used for all 

1559
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,040
of our hormones. 
It's a building block for all of

1560
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:55,920
our hormones. 
We have to have cholesterol. 

1561
01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:00,080
However you can get too much. 
It will come out your skin. 

1562
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:05,080
Literally it comes out your skin
how it it because it just builds

1563
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,920
up in the body. 
It's not dangerous unless you 

1564
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,840
have internal wounds. 
Then it becomes the plaque that 

1565
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,240
that everyone is scared of 
builds up in the body but 

1566
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,240
cluster itself. 
If you just build up too much 

1567
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,280
cholesterol, it can start to 
come out the skin if your body 

1568
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,680
has too much so and what is 
that? 

1569
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,040
Is it noticeable or it just? 
Got usually comes out into the 

1570
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,040
eyes, but it can come out on the
hands and it it, it looks 

1571
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,680
yellow. 
It looks like pockets of 

1572
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,400
cholesterol under the skin. 
Yeah, it's very unattractive. 

1573
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,200
It's not attractive. 
So, you know, I worry about that

1574
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,680
with a lot of the carnivore 
community because they eat a lot

1575
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:46,160
of this, this fat from animals 
that have been selectively bred.

1576
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:50,120
So our bodies really weren't 
made to eat a lot of fat, a lot 

1577
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,960
of fish fat, but not a lot of 
selectively bred animal fat, 

1578
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,400
right? 
We're, we're used to eating wild

1579
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,960
game that has a way less amount 
of fat. 

1580
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,760
But now you see people eating 
these huge rib eyes that are 

1581
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,400
conventionally raised on all 
this corn and soy, and they're 

1582
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,760
eating. 
Sticks of butter with it and 

1583
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,520
they're just building up too 
much cholesterol in their body. 

1584
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,280
It's just too much. 
They don't need that much. 

1585
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,160
Our bodies make cholesterol 
without having to eat it. 

1586
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,400
Our bodies will make it, but you
can get it through your food 

1587
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,960
supply too, and your body will 
utilize it just like our bodies 

1588
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,400
make fat, but you can also eat 
fat and utilize it as fat or 

1589
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,680
fuel too. 
So, you know, I think moderation

1590
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,360
is OK, but you know, as far as 
cholesterol ranges are 

1591
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,720
concerned, I don't buy into any 
of it. 

1592
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,000
Like it's all just a bunch of BS
to me. 

1593
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,800
I think that you should work 
with your doctor on whatever, 

1594
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,520
but really the underlying issue 
is find a doctor that knows 

1595
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,040
really what cholesterol is 
doing. 

1596
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,240
Find a doctor that isn't still 
going off of the old outdated 

1597
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,560
textbook from when they were in 
medical school that was outdated

1598
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,600
at the time it was written and 
now is even more outdated. 

1599
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,600
Yeah, I mean, it's just really 
old, bad information. 

1600
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,200
So they told everybody to eat 
low fat, and it didn't stop 

1601
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,640
heart disease. 
Yeah, you know, it just made it 

1602
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,080
worse. 
Why? 

1603
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,560
Because carbs are turned into 
fat. 

1604
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,480
And when the body makes 
cholesterol, fat, cholesterol 

1605
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,400
and protein go together and they
just, you know, it, all the 

1606
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,360
oxalates people are eating, all 
the vascular damage from lack of

1607
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,520
sunlight, and you're just of 
course you're going to have 

1608
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,160
heart disease. 
And so eat the right kinds of 

1609
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,960
meats as much as possible. 
Yeah. 

1610
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,280
And it's not a concern. 
Most people see their 

1611
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,320
cholesterol goes gets better, 
you know, if they had high 

1612
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,840
cholesterol, whatever gets 
better on the keto diet after 

1613
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,560
being on it for several months 
into a year, at first, the 

1614
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,960
cholesterol goes up because fat 
liberates. 

1615
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,080
When you're in ketosis, that 
means fat has liberated. 

1616
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,360
It means it's come out of the 
fat cell and your body's using 

1617
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,080
it for fuel. 
Inside the fat cell is 

1618
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,360
cholesterol. 
So cholesterol comes with it 

1619
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,520
into the bloodstream. 
So anytime you do keto, when you

1620
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,040
get your ketones up, your 
cholesterol will naturally rise 

1621
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,720
with it, but then the body just 
utilizes it and makes it work. 

1622
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,280
So it always so. 
Anytime there's like a lot of 

1623
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,960
weight loss, those the the fat 
cells are going to be liberated 

1624
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,280
and your cholesterol is just 
going to go up your higher. 

1625
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,560
Right, and here's the deal is 
when they go in to test you for 

1626
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,360
a for a fast, you know, you're 
or when they go in and blood 

1627
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,720
test you, you're supposed to be 
fasted from the night before or 

1628
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,920
whatever. 
And who knows if you've already 

1629
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,960
started burning some ketones. 
True, your cholesterol is just 

1630
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,880
high from that, you know, I 
mean, it's just such a scam. 

1631
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,920
Blood work is just such a it's 
just not getting to the root of 

1632
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,800
the problem. 
Otherwise people wouldn't be 

1633
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,240
dying. 
Do you think people are being 

1634
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:45,040
too like overly mindful of what 
their blood work says and not 

1635
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:50,600
how they feel? 
Yes, I think that people have 

1636
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:56,760
hired bad doctors and I, I don't
think the doctor himself is a 

1637
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,720
bad person. 
I think they're bad doctors 

1638
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:04,480
because they, you know, they 
sign an oath, they say they are 

1639
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:08,760
going to help support people, 
but they really don't because 

1640
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,720
they're not willing to take the 
time and truly investigate 

1641
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,680
what's going on and what's 
happening and asking the right 

1642
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,640
questions and asking people what
they're eating and getting to 

1643
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,520
the root of the problem. 
They want to just write a 

1644
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,000
prescription because they want 
to help another person. 

1645
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,840
Yeah, they don't have time. 
They don't, they want to help 

1646
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,600
more people and there's so many 
people to be helped, but it's 

1647
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,640
the wrong thing to do 'cause 
it's not working. 

1648
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,480
Yeah. 
So they need to hire the the 

1649
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:38,840
doctors that understand what's 
going on. 

1650
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,080
There's not a lot of them out 
there. 

1651
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,400
It's it's hard pickings. 
But I think more and more as 

1652
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:44,520
time goes on. 
Yep. 

1653
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:50,080
OK, Another common sticking 
point with eating high meat 

1654
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,480
intake? 
Pooping. 

1655
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,480
A lot of people say they have 
trouble pooping when they start 

1656
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:57,120
including a lot of meat in their
diet. 

1657
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,600
Yes, and they think they need 
fiber to make that better. 

1658
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:05,480
And ultimately, fiber usually 
makes things worse because it 

1659
01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:09,680
causes, you know, wear and tear 
on the inside of the gut, which 

1660
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,040
then causes bad poor 
communication for the gut. 

1661
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,360
So peristalsis is what makes the
gut move. 

1662
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,640
And what triggers that is, you 
know, of course, your vagus 

1663
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,600
nerve can trigger that, but also
your microbiome can trigger 

1664
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,200
that. 
So we always have the girls 

1665
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,080
introduced ferments. 
That usually takes care of a lot

1666
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,320
of it. 
Also, if your drainage pathways 

1667
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:34,440
aren't working, you know if your
gut has low gut motility, so 

1668
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:37,400
magnesium and potassium can 
really help with that too. 

1669
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,960
Vitamin C also helps open up the
drainage pathways. 

1670
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,080
So those are a couple things. 
When people have bad guts, low 

1671
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:48,200
gut motility, their peristalsis 
isn't working, we do that. 

1672
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,920
Also red light. 
Red light in the morning can be 

1673
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,840
really good for a slow moving 
gut. 

1674
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,480
On the stomach. 
Interesting, you ever heard of 

1675
01:24:55,480 --> 01:24:58,400
that? 
It it creates energy in the 

1676
01:24:58,400 --> 01:24:59,840
mitochondria. 
So the mitochondria gets 

1677
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,720
stimulated by the red light and 
anytime the mitochondria are 

1678
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,120
stimulated, they produce ATP. 
And what's ATP energy. 

1679
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,160
If your gut is, if you can't 
poop, your guts doesn't have 

1680
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,680
energy. 
So stimulate the mitochondria to

1681
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,360
produce the energy and then 
you'll have the energy to go. 

1682
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,520
That's good. 
I heard one time you talked 

1683
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,600
about this concept of the 
difference between joy and 

1684
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,520
pleasure and how eating that 
sweet treat or whatever it is 

1685
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,200
may provide you with that short 
term pleasure and satisfaction, 

1686
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:33,200
but it's not going to give you 
the joy that comes from looking 

1687
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,840
and feeling good long term. 
How would you encourage anyone 

1688
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,680
who who struggles with that, who
struggles to make good decisions

1689
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,480
that are going to benefit them 
in the long run? 

1690
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:47,840
Yeah, I think some of it is, you
know, talking to your audience, 

1691
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:52,280
I would say if your mom and a 
dad like, like, do better for 

1692
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,640
your kids, make it about your 
kids and not about you because 

1693
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,240
you know how the food makes you 
feel. 

1694
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,840
Think of how it's making them 
feel now as far as the joy and 

1695
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,120
pleasure is concerned. 
You know, a lot of young people 

1696
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,200
and parents that you know, they 
want to use food as their 

1697
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,520
escape. 
They're and even the older 

1698
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,120
generation, you know, it's food 
is, is Oh well, you want to cook

1699
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,520
and have joy together, right? 
And bring everybody together and

1700
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,440
all get fat and there's no joy 
in food. 

1701
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:23,160
You never remember the casserole
from Aunt Betty on your 

1702
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,640
deathbed, right? 
Like that isn't going to be what

1703
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,760
you bring with you. 
And it's not what you pray about

1704
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,000
at night. 
You know, you pray about health 

1705
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,720
for your family. 
So if you pray about health for 

1706
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:37,120
your family, then do the right 
things and be healthy because 

1707
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,680
that is what's going to bring 
you the joy in the long term is 

1708
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,440
the memories with your family. 
Food is pleasurable and it 

1709
01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:44,840
should be. 
We ate wonderful food while we 

1710
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,120
were here and it brought me a 
lot of pleasure. 

1711
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,080
I loved it. 
You know, it was like, yes, this

1712
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,560
tickles my taste buds and it 
should, but it's fleeting. 

1713
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,080
It's gone in seconds, but the 
fat on your ass is going to sit 

1714
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,880
there for a long time. 
So you taste that cheesecake. 

1715
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,360
It's gone in 20 minutes. 
The whole pleasure scene is gone

1716
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,960
and all you're left with is the 
depression and the guilt. 

1717
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,640
So you know you you're just in a
vicious cycle of self abuse. 

1718
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,320
This is why I love you out of 
it. 

1719
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:19,280
You're so good at just shooting 
straight and it's so motivating 

1720
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,040
and empowering. 
Well, thank you. 

1721
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:22,200
I love it. 
Thank you. 

1722
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,440
And I struggle with that too. 
I still feel like, I don't know 

1723
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:28,240
if it's from childhood. 
I think a lot of us when we did 

1724
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,000
something good, we would get 
like a treat. 

1725
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,920
And it's like, it's like how we 
treat dogs, but we treat 

1726
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,880
ourselves that way too. 
Like I still find myself after 

1727
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,760
I've had like a stressful day or
after, you know, something 

1728
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,520
exciting happens. 
I'm like, oh, it's a treat. 

1729
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,640
I want a treat right now. 
But why do I want a treat? 

1730
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,480
Like, do I deserve a treat 
because either something did or 

1731
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:48,840
didn't go my way? 
It's like this weird like thing 

1732
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,920
that's ingrained in our minds. 
And it's because our bodies 

1733
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,320
naturally want to get fat. 
So for your body, it's a treat 

1734
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,760
because it's like, holy, you 
know, 120,000 years ago, you 

1735
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,920
would have never had the 
opportunity to have a chocolate 

1736
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,520
covered hazelnut or cashew or 
whatever. 

1737
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,640
Like there that wasn't around. 
Yeah. 

1738
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,560
Now that it's around, your body 
can be like, Oh my gosh, yeah, 

1739
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,760
that's a treat for us because we
get to make more fat. 

1740
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,600
The body doesn't know that you 
can produce so much fat you can 

1741
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,920
kill yourself. 
Right. 

1742
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,720
It doesn't know that because our
our DNA was programmed in a 

1743
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,680
world where there wasn't, there 
wasn't the ability to do that. 

1744
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,000
Yeah, And that's so important 
for for people to remember too, 

1745
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,960
because we all have those those 
desires just biologically. 

1746
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,040
But that doesn't mean we need to
give in to them. 

1747
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,800
That doesn't mean we like, we 
shouldn't trust that feeling. 

1748
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,640
We should trust, you know, we 
should lean into like, our minds

1749
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,920
and think critically, not like 
whatever you feel like. 

1750
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,640
Eating must be what I need 
because intuitively right now, I

1751
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,880
feel like I need it. 
No, like we were biologically 

1752
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,480
programmed to want these things 
because that's how we survived 

1753
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:52,240
in the past. 
But that's not you need to not 

1754
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,880
like that aside in today's day 
and age, yeah. 

1755
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,040
It's the zoo. 
It's not the reality. 

1756
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,480
The reality is the wild, and 
anyone that hunts, anyone that 

1757
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:03,600
lives on a farm, that lives on a
ranch, knows it's not the 

1758
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,680
reality. 
So Candy, I came across 

1759
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,880
something that I wanted to get 
your take on. 

1760
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:12,480
This is a quote from Oprah and 
she says all these years I 

1761
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:16,440
thought I was overeating because
of me and my fault. 

1762
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:22,240
Now I understand that if you 
carry the obesity gene, that is 

1763
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,760
what makes you overeat. 
You don't overeat and become 

1764
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,920
obese. 
Obesity causes you to overeat. 

1765
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,560
Wrong. 
Oh my goodness. 

1766
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,360
Yeah. 
And she's selling Ozempic, isn't

1767
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,720
she? 
Oh yeah, she's selling one of 

1768
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:41,160
them for sure. 
They're all doing that. 

1769
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,960
I mean, that's just insane to me
that their marketing is that 

1770
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,520
obesity gene. 
Every human has the obesity 

1771
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,400
gene. 
All humans want to get fat. 

1772
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,360
That's just a biological 
imperative. 

1773
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:57,040
And obviously because if you eat
the way modern humanity eats, 

1774
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,600
you get fat. 
Most of the population is fat 

1775
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,800
right now and. 
Pharmaceutical companies are 

1776
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,760
looking for a way to sell more 
Ozempic and make you feel like 

1777
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,240
it's not your fault they're in 
the easy view. 

1778
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,200
Yep, they're the easy button 
here. 

1779
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,720
Take this injection, we're going
to charge you massive amounts of

1780
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,120
money. 
I mean, it's a multi trillion 

1781
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,480
dollar criminal enterprise, big 
pharma, and they're just going 

1782
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:22,280
to keep pushing the drugs. 
Candy And if you could encourage

1783
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,600
every woman listening to make 
one change starting today, what 

1784
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,840
would that be? 
Eat more meat, Eat more meat 

1785
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:33,000
just as plain as that and and 
buy support regenerative farms 

1786
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,880
because we got to get rid of 
this corn fed, soy fed meat 

1787
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,000
system. 
It it just has to go. 

1788
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,800
We need babies to eat a lot of 
protein. 

1789
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,480
We need moms to feed them. 
We need moms to nurse, We need 

1790
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:48,480
families to start their own 
farm. 

1791
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,240
You know we need regenerative 
farming to come back. 

1792
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,480
We need people to start eating 
more meat because if you start 

1793
01:30:55,480 --> 01:30:58,400
eating more meat, everything in 
your body is going to heal. 

1794
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,800
You won't be hungry for the ice 
cream. 

1795
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,520
If you're hungry for the ice 
cream, go eat a steak, right? 

1796
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,640
If you are hungry for chocolate 
covered nuts, eat beef jerky. 

1797
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,520
Always some pickle. 
Brine. 

1798
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:14,360
Always pick meat first, Yeah. 
And you'll just, you'll start to

1799
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,520
see that your cravings will 
become nonetheless your insulin 

1800
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:21,120
will become more low and you'll 
not be making so much fat. 

1801
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,520
Candy, thank you for being here.
This was such a good 

1802
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,840
conversation. 
Tell our listeners where they 

1803
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,000
can find you and continue to 
learn from you. 

1804
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,200
And also tell us about your new 
book that you just launched. 

1805
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,000
Yes. 
So we launched a new book, it's 

1806
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,240
called Get Sexy Girlfriend. 
It's on Amazon. 

1807
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,920
You can download the Kindle or 
get the hard copy. 

1808
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,280
And it was super fun to write. 
We absolutely just love doing 

1809
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,160
that. 
So I'm an author now. 

1810
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:47,440
I never thought I would be, but 
I am. 

1811
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:50,120
Get sexy girlfriends. 
So yeah, our ancestors were 

1812
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:51,320
sexy. 
You should be too. 

1813
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:56,280
And it's the truth, so. 
There's do a a voice a voice 

1814
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,280
version I'm. 
Thinking about it, you should. 

1815
01:31:58,280 --> 01:31:59,720
It's me too. 
Yeah, you should. 

1816
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,880
One of a girl just said, oh, I 
bought your book and I I wanted 

1817
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,960
to I wanted to buy the version 
where you read it and I thought,

1818
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:07,880
oh, shoot, that's a sign I need 
to read it. 

1819
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:09,800
So yeah, we might do that. 
You'll. 

1820
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,640
Just have to like stick yourself
in a closet for however long it 

1821
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,920
takes. 
I always imagine that being 

1822
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,040
like. 
So tedious. 

1823
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,680
Yes, I'm sure it will be worth 
it. 

1824
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,240
Yes, for sure. 
And then I'm on all social 

1825
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,360
media. 
It's at the Primal Bod is my 

1826
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,560
handle on all the social media. 
And then our website 

1827
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,440
primalbod.com there perfect. 
That's all the places. 

1828
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:32,240
Thank you so much. 
Thank you for having me. 

1829
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,400
What a freaking fantastic place 
to be. 

1830
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,640
And and I just love your energy.
Your skin is amazing. 

1831
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:39,960
It's just glowing at me. 
Thank you. 

1832
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,520
So yeah, thank you so much. 
Thank you so much. 

1833
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:43,760
Yeah.