Most women don't want to lose weight just to hit a number on
the scale. They want to feel confident,
attractive and comfortable in their own body again.
What's frustrating is that for so many women, even eating clean
and working out doesn't deliver the results they desire.
Was working out like a freaking crazy person.
Peloton, P90, you name it. Weightlifting.
Nothing was making me like the way I looked in the mirror.
Today I'm sitting down with functional nutritionist and
Primal Bod founder Candy Frazier, who's helped thousands
of women finally see their bodies respond without starving
themselves or living in the gym. I dropped 13 lbs in six weeks.
And the reason her approach works is something that almost
no one in the Wellness community is talking about.
It was like a light bulb went off in my mind.
Once you learn it, you'll never have to learn it again.
Let's dig in. Candy, thank you so much for
being here and joining us today. I want to set this conversation
up a little bit. So for anyone who's listening
and has not yet heard of Candy Frazier, please go to her
Instagram and just scroll through her photos.
I want you to find a photo of her in a bikini.
And we'll put this up on the screen for anyone watching on
YouTube. But I just want everyone to see
what Candy looks like in a bikini because she she doesn't
just have amazing jeans. She hasn't always looked this
way. But it's just proof that what
you are doing is working for you and also for so many other
people that you're helping to transform their lives and their
bodies. So I just wanted people to know
that and keep that in the back of their minds.
That's what we're talking the. Bikini pictures is how I get
women's attention on Instagram. No, it works.
Yeah. I mean, you got to do what you
got to do. Yeah.
I never thought I'd be a bikini model, but here I am.
Can you tell our audience a little bit about your personal
health journey and how you got here?
Yeah, So it interestingly enough, I started out not eating
well at all. And today I'm probably most
people would say you're the healthiest person I've ever met.
It wasn't always that way. I ate a lot of junk food as a
kid. I grew up on a farm.
My dad is a hunting, fishing guide.
So we did have a lot of like nature in our lives.
And I did eat, you know, wild hot salmon from that morning
from my dad's boat, you know, elk, you know, venison beef.
But it was the 80s and 90s. And so we had a lot of junk, you
know, Lucky Charms for breakfast and Wonder Bread and, you know,
fat free yogurt. We grew up in the fat free
generation. So there was a lot of fat free
stuff, fat free milk. I was always congested.
My lymph glands were always swollen.
You know, I had my tonsils removed as a kid.
Then as I became older I had horrible periods, cystic acne,
you know, breast tenderness. I got put on birth control when
I was 14 years old so I I literally went from 110 lbs to
140 lbs within like 3 months. Did they put you on birth
control for acne? No, my mom put me on birth
control because she didn't want to be a grandmother.
So I had an older boyfriend at the time and she was like, I
don't want to be a grandma and I just don't want to take the
risk. So she put me on birth control
and it was it destroyed my body, destroyed my body.
I had started to develop Cellulite by the time I got into
my mid 20s. I had full on lipedema, so I had
hard pockets of fat on the outside of my legs.
But you know, I was always really interested in the natural
world, what God gave us. I was interested in in animals
and farming because that's how I grew up.
And my grandpa was a really big influence in my life, as was my
dad. But my grandpa always was into
food. So we ate, you know, snouts
tail. We had, we'd come home from
school and he'd have a big pot of like, you know, cow tongue
soup cooking on the stove. And you know, we had all these
fermented cheeses and sauerkrauts.
He was German. So we had all this stuff that
was kind of, most people would, you know, that time would shy
away from. And I just kind of embraced it.
So he taught me little tricks about cooking.
Like he would say I'd make him like ham Hock and bean soup and
I'd take it over to his house. We just lived a couple blocks
away from the farm. And he'd go kiss her.
That was his nickname for me. Kiss her.
Did you soak these beans overnight?
And I go, no. And he'd go, you need to soak
them 'cause it takes all the gas out of them.
Then grandpa won't get gassy. And so I started learning, OK,
plants have these toxins in them and you have to prepare them
certain ways and be really critical with how you prepare
them so that we can actually digest them.
But you don't have to do that with meat.
And so I started kind of figuring stuff out.
Also, my grandma was a was a full on like horticulturist.
I mean, she had an amazing garden.
She was in Garden Club and she did a lot of plant breeding.
And so I knew a little bit about it.
I knew our crab apples on our tree were indigenous to the
area. You know, they, you know,
they're not wild necessarily, but they were there for many,
many years before we came. And then I knew the pie apples
had been selectively bred. We had a pie apple tree, and
then we had a Cherry Tree and a cherry pie tree, you know, where
the they were selectively bred to be sweeter and more tasty.
So I always understood that, but I didn't really do much with it.
I didn't really know. And I was interested in
nutrition. The first book I ever read was
about how omega-3 fats can help influence our brain and our
behavior. And I thought, that's really
interesting. I was, I'll never forget it.
I was in the library, had my oldest son with me.
He was just a little guy. We were checking out little
critter books and I went over to the diet section, found this
book and I was like just amazed at what I was learning and I
thought, I want to do this someday.
I want to like learn how to help people with this and figure it
out. And how old were you at the
time? I was 2222, I was very young.
And so then, you know, things happen and you know, I'm a
working mom, you know, and I'm busy divorce, go through my
first divorce and I move, take my boys and, you know, I'm busy
doing hairdressing. And I always wanted to go to
nutrition school, but I went to cosmetology school and said,
because that was the cool thing to do back then.
And I was like, I'm going to put this on hold.
Every weekend I would go to the library and check out nutrition
books, literal anatomy books, and I would just read this
stuff. So finally as my kids got older
and they weren't so needy on me, I was like, OK, I'm going to do
this now. So I went to nutrition school 12
years ago, became board certified, got my board
certification and just started helping people.
I was doing homeopathy, I was doing herbs, I was doing, you
know, basic nutrition and nutrition testing.
And, you know, I was, I thought I was really helping people.
And at the time I was all organic.
I was making sure that my clients were eating all organic.
They were eating pretty close to a paleo diet, so no grains, but
eating, you know, plants, vegetables, fruits and meats.
And, you know, no one ever really lost weight.
I think I improved their their mindset around food and they
felt a little better. You know, when you take someone
from eating processed junk to eating Whole Foods, they always
shift in a better direction. But, you know, there were still
issues. And I thought, well, we just
need more supplements. And it never really worked.
So I spent many years doing this and then I traveled.
I taught, you know, doctors about nutrition.
And we did seminars and taught about, you know, supplements and
homeopathy. And it was fun.
And at one of those seminars, I met my husband, Tom.
He was attending 1. He was ACPA and his sister was a
natural health practitioner. She was attending our seminars.
And he was interested in her business model of natural health
clinics, helping people with supplements and natural health
remedies. And, you know, he thought this
is like really interesting to me.
He is a type 1 diabetic. And so he wanted to take care of
his health. So he was like, I'm going to
leave my business, you know, investment banker, big CPA, you
know, job and I'm going to go do this.
So that's what he did. And he went to one of our
seminars and he learned and we hit it off.
We started talking. He's like, I'm interested in
doing these health, you know, type centers across the country.
And he's like, I'd love for you to be a part of this anyway.
And so over the course of a year, we built this friendship
on, you know, building these health centers that would be
chiropractors and functional medicine, doctors and
practitioners that were all natural health minded at these
health centers. And, you know, we got together
and it was like we just chemistry, chemistry, you know,
immediate attraction. And we were friends for about a
year, year and a half. And then finally, I think we
both confessed our undying love for each other at the same time.
But we got together. And at the time I was living in
Washington state. He's from Wisconsin, so he was
there. My kids were grown, so it was
easier for me to move to Wisconsin.
So I packed up everything, left Washington, where I'm from,
where I've been my whole life, moved to Wisconsin in 2020 and
we started our health practice there and it grew really
quickly. I was the New Girl in town.
I was doing all this stuff and people were interested.
So I grew really quickly and I was right back to where I was
with my practice in Washington, you know, basically had this
community of these families that were coming to see me for to
live a more natural lifestyle. And, but behind closed doors, my
life was really chaotic and I had this brand new love.
You know, that was just so to the moon.
It's still brand new, in my opinion, 6-7 years later, it's
still brand new. But we had this brand new love
and there was another woman and the other woman was type 1
diabetes and it was very stressful.
Have you seen the movie Steel Magnolias?
I haven't. OK, you got to watch it, girl.
It's so good. So Julia Roberts, it's got a
great cast. Dolly Parton's in it, Sally
Field. But in the movie, Julia plays a
Type 1 diabetic. And there's a scene in the movie
where she's sitting in Trudy's hair salon, which Dolly Parton
is the hairdresser in the movie, and Dolly's doing her hair and
Sally Fields her mom and she's there and she's having a
diabetic low. And so it's really dramatic.
She's shaking, she's sweating. They have to give her orange
juice to get her blood sugar to come up.
And I remember at the time I watched that because it's from
that like the 80s, I think, early or late 80s.
And I was young at the time. And I thought that must be a
horrible disease to have. And I it just stuck in my mind
so clearly that scene. And I thought that must be so
horrible. And then it happened to me in
real life and it was really scary.
Via Tom. I watched it happen and I was
there, you know, numerous times helping him get his blood sugar
back up. Now, it's not his fault.
Type 1 diabetes is a very stressful disease to manage.
And, you know, we were newlyweds and I was making, I'm a good
cook and I was making him all these yummy paleo desserts like
these date and nuts and all this, you know, and we were
eating a lot of Whole Foods, salads and meat.
And, you know, we were eating a lot of Whole Foods, but a lot of
sugary Whole Foods. And at the time, I didn't think
this was going to be a problem for him because I was always
taught, oh, fiber, Whole Foods are OK.
They're not going to hurt your blood sugar.
Blah blah blah. Sweeteners are different than
you know, they're kind. So see, this is what I was
taught in school, too. And I watched that that was all
a lie. I watched it unfold in my
husband's blood sugar every day. I would make him a smoothie.
It would have Greek yogurt, some berries, you know, maybe a
little little swirl of honey on the top and a protein powder.
And he would drink that. And his blood sugar would do the
same thing as if he had a regular milkshake from Culver's
drive in. And I thought what why this is
like this is fiber and he says it doesn't matter it's all
sugar. So these little date and nut
does paleo desserts. I was making him with coconut
flakes and everything were just like him eating a Snickers bar
and I thought this can't be. So my downfall for so many years
too when I first went paleo. I think a lot of people Paleo's
kind of like a a gateway way of eating.
Once you start eating, it sure is, but the problem is you just
start making paleo versions of all the same treats you were
eating before. Totally, totally.
And that's what I was doing, you know, I was just being cute
about it, you know, So we had all this healthy dessert foods.
And soon enough I learned he can't eat this stuff.
So I'm like, honey, what do we need to do?
And he's a dude. He's like, sure, Paleo yummy
desserts. You're making me, you know, and
I'm like, no, because we can't do this low that you have
because it's so scary to me. So I said, we got to do
something. And he goes, well, I do much
better when I eat meat and vegetables, just meat and
vegetables. And I'm like, OK, then that's
what we're doing. So over the course of about six
weeks, I, I, we, we made this plan.
I said, OK, I'm going to eat everything you eat.
I'm going to move. When you move, I'm going to do
everything to support you because I know it's going to be
easier for you if you do this. Now at the time, I had gained
probably 6 lbs since we had gotten together.
And I wasn't fat, but I also wasn't thin.
I was skinny fat. I had a lot of Cellulite, but I
had just given up on my body. I had tried the 75 Hard
challenge. I had work was working out like
a freaking crazy person. Peloton, P90, you name it.
Weightlifting. Nothing was making me look like
the way I looked in the mirror, but I just was like, I'm doing
all the right things and I look better than most of the people
on the planet right now. Most women say I'm really thin,
so it just must be whatever perimenopause, right?
So I had just given up. So when we started on this plan
to help Tom balance his blood sugar so he didn't have to
overcorrect with insulin, I had given up on my body and I was
just doing this to help him. And it was the most
serendipitous thing that ever happened to me.
And it was a gift from God. I truly believe that because
after six weeks of eating and moving and living in accordance
to Tom's blood sugar, keeping it stable so he didn't have to over
give himself insulin, I dropped 13 lbs.
Wow. In six weeks.
That's unbelievable. And I couldn't believe I've been
trying everything and nothing was working.
So it was like a light bulb went off in my mind.
I thought, OK, I had done keto 6 or 7 times prior to even meeting
Tom. I had done the Adkins diet way
back in the day, ate nothing but hamburger patties and pork rinds
and, you know, bacon and the Adkins basic first week for nine
months and I'd lose like a couple pounds, but then I just
get constipated. I didn't feel well.
So it was like a light bulb went off.
And I thought the reason the keto diet didn't work, the
reason, you know, the Adkins diet didn't work for me was
because I wasn't, I didn't understand how insulin worked.
And I looked at Tom after I lost 13 lbs and I'm like, how is this
possible? And he's like, I told you, the
more insulin I take, the fatter I get.
Insulin's the master fast during hormone.
And I'm like, I knew that. I was taught that, but I didn't
fully understand. I didn't think I had a blood
sugar issue. My fasting glucose was always 80
every morning, 80. It was perfectly fine.
But little did I know it's because my body was massively
producing insulin to keep it that low, you know, to keep my
body at a state of coherence and balance, I had to produce a lot
of insulin. And what happens in most women
is that will happen to them for a lot.
Many years. They will show no signs of
diabetes or insulin resistance. And then all of a sudden,
overnight, they go to their doctor and their doctor's like,
well, you're insulin resistant. Now, some of these women aren't
even obese or don't even have weight to lose.
They're just, their diet has been so heavy with glucose, they
produce so much insulin that it wore the receptor down and now
they've developed resistance to the insulin.
So they've insulin resistance. And if you let that go, it
develops into type 2 diabetes. So I know I saved myself from
that because I'm sure by the age of 55, I would have had insulin
full on insulin resistance. And I see it, women join my
program daily that have insulin resistance.
They come in and they're like, I have insulin resistance.
How is this possible? I've been eating a Mediterranean
diet. How is this possible?
And it's because they don't understand how insulin works.
And once you understand how it works, you know exactly how you
need to eat. But it even doctors don't
understand it. They gave Tom no good advice
when he was diagnosed at 15. They do not understand how
insulin works at all. So you know.
For I mean, what it what advice did they give him?
Just this is how you manage you. Bolus yeah, you this is.
Not any like your car diet but blah blah blah.
Just all about calculating whatever you want you need based
on. How many carbs you eat?
Exactly. And that's why we're in the
epidemic we're in now. We have type 1 diabetes is on
the rise, Type 2 is out of control and all in the whole
world. I mean, even in Asia and India,
they have some of the highest rates of type 2 diabetes.
And what are they eating? Rice and potatoes and all the
starches so. And type 2 is 100% reversible.
It right it can be if you catch it early enough OK, you know my.
It can get to a point where you actually can't.
I mean, it's hard to, it's really hard to, yeah.
And it, it can be very damaging to your organs and your, I mean,
type 2 diabetics, eventually if they don't take care of it, they
go blind, they can lose limbs, you know, their kidneys give out
and they die. So if you don't manage it, then
yes. But it can be reversible.
Absolutely, 100%. If you get it when you're
insulin resistant, then it's really easy to, to reverse that.
But. And you mentioned that this can
be a shocking diagnosis for people.
They think everything's fine, they're eating healthy, and
then, you know, at one point, they're just diagnosed with type
2 diabetes. But are there any signs that can
show up that women or just people in general can be on the
lookout for? Yes, a big one that no one
really understands is hypoglycemia.
So excess fat on the body for one, and then hypoglycemia.
So if you have excess fat on your body and you experience
hypoglycemic symptoms, and I'm not a doctor, but you know, just
work with your on what hypoglycemic symptoms are, you
know, it's like you're hungry, you're you're you get hangry.
Like if you skip a meal you get really hangry.
And that's because hypoglycemia is like super low blood sugar.
Correct. And it's a sign that your body
it is always needs glucose to burn.
It's a sign that you're not fat adapted, that you're not burning
fat for fuel, you're only burning glucose and that your
body massively produces insulin. So when you massively produce
insulin, your blood sugar drops frequently because that's one of
insulin's main role is to transport glucose from the
bloodstream intracellularly. So it takes it out of the blood
channel into the cell, in turn dropping the blood sugar.
So when you have a lot of glucose in the cell, you make a
lot of insulin baby, because that insulin's got got a trigger
the cell to open so the glucose can go through it.
So it can be used as fueling out any access.
Sugar in the blood or glucose in the blood will get taken to the
liver and converted into fat. Insulin's second role is to do
that, transport the glucose to the liver, but also to sit on
the fat cell and prevent your body from tapping into it for
fuel. Because the fat on your body is
a source of fuel, you can burn it in the form of ketones and
get superb energy from burning fat.
But if you have too much insulin, you can't burn fat.
You're just stuck in a high insulin environment.
So you have a lot of fat on your body.
You have hypoglycemia, you have sugar cravings because insulin
will make you crave sugar because insulin lowers your
blood sugar. So your body has a mechanism to
raise it again if you have too much insulin, so it makes you
crave more sugar. I've never heard it put that
way, that it sits on top of your fat cells and then the way you
does it get flushed out then when you're either eating kind
of the way that you eat or if you're in a fasted state or
exercise. When you get into a state of
ketosis, eventually your, your insulin will lower and then your
it will leave your fat cell because your, your body says,
OK, now we don't have any food. We have to tap into the fat.
Your body never wants to burn fat.
It was designed that way because in the wild we couldn't get fat.
There wasn't enough carbs around for us to get fat.
So the body tries to preserve fat on your body, especially in
women because as estrogen is fat promoting, but insulin is the
key mechanism for why it's made and why it's still there.
And that that intimate connection we have to our
ancestors that lived at one with the earth that ate mostly meat
and they ate a low fat forming diet and lived a low fat forming
lifestyle 'cause they were moving, they were fasting, they
were drinking spring water, they had good microbes.
They had all these things around them to prevent to prevent
obesity. And their systems are the same
systems we have. But now we live an opposite
life. We live in a zoo with Dairy
Queen on every corner of a block and we can get as fat as we
want. And our bodies are like, yeah,
let's get fat because our bodies haven't adapted to that, nor do
I think they will because it kills us.
We die from metabolic diseases. I love how you said that we're
living in a zoo. I think everyone really needs to
think about that and just understand that the world that
we live in is not set up for us to thrive and we have to to make
very intentionally different choices if we want to thrive.
Yeah, yeah, I think most people see it.
If you've seen the movie Wally or Idiocracy and you go to Vegas
or Disney World and you see the you see it.
You see the disease in people and you see what they're eating,
you can figure it out. It's killing us.
And if we don't do something about it, it's going to affect
the generations after us. It's Pottinger's cats.
Are you familiar with Pottinger's cats?
5 generations, yes. It takes 5 generations
eventually to for it to degrade or to reverse, or both.
Exactly. And eventually they won't, you
know, they won't be able to procreate.
And that's nature's way of telling us this isn't right.
I think we're starting to see that happening now.
It is. We have fertility clinics for
for people in their 20s, they're going to fertility clinics.
That's like when I was in school, we tried to prevent
pregnancy, you know, like it wasn't this like, oh, I have to
try to get pregnant now. I mean, was talking to a girl
who's 28 and she's like, I'm going to have to go to a
fertility clinic to get pregnant.
Like we've been trying for four years and nothing.
I'm like, are you kidding me? Yeah.
And I feel like that's becoming more the norm than the than the
outlier type of story for hypoglycemia.
I know that the standard recommendation for people who
experience that is to eat more frequently.
I know several people who have said, you know, I have
hyperlogosemia. I have to eat every two hours or
three hours. What are your thoughts on that?
You're just making the problem worse is you're just producing.
Every time you eat, you produce insulin.
Now, an easy way to ease into it is to, instead of going for an
apple and peanut butter, which is I want everybody to really
understand this, an apple and a peanut butter is a Snickers
candy bar. Everyone thinks that's a healthy
thing. It is a Snickers candy bar on
your blood sugar. So instead of doing that, do a
couple soft boiled eggs, do a can of sardines, do some beef
jerky, do a beef stick, do something other than.
Sugar sardines are such a great snack.
They're the best hack or or even like meal on the go.
I mean, I know maybe sardines isn't a full meal, but if you're
in a bind and you need something that's going to satiate you,
yes, sardines are the way to. Go.
They're the most nutrient dense food there is.
They're loaded with omega-3 fatty acids and omega-3 fatty
acids actually help you to get into fat burning mode.
They increase ketones. I've seen in my program we do a
sardine fast. In the program we do 3 days of
just eating sardines. So how many cans?
Well, so it's, it starts a lot and then it tapers down because
really you get tired of sardines after three days of just eating
sardines. But we start out with like, you
know, anywhere from 5:00 to 6:00 cans a day.
And then you taper down as you go through the days and the
girls watch their ketones go up and up.
And when your ketones are up, you're fat burning.
You're burning more fat. Great way to like just get into
ketosis. So good and it satiates you.
Your cravings go away. You just feel calm.
You feel, just feel. Good.
They're really good source of calcium too, because you get the
bones. If you get the sardines with the
bone and the skin, you can eat it.
They're so nutrient dense. Yeah, folate.
Everything is in sardines. What are some other issues with
the Paleo diet? I know we mentioned that all the
sweet treats and what that does to our insulin.
What else? What are some unexpected things
that people would be surprised to know about foods that are
recommended within the Paleo way of eating?
That's a really good question. So I'm dying to talk about this
because I was just in Laguna Beach and it's everywhere.
They have smoothies with flaxseed and chia seed and all
these super foods. And those foods can be so
damaging to young women and I just hate it.
And and boys and I see these mom vegan moms giving their babies
these smoothies with this flax and chi and I'm like, Oh my
gosh, please no. Because they're so high in
phytoestrogens and those phytoestrogens influence our own
hormones. I didn't know this.
Yes. So this started actually before
I became a nutritionist. I was a vegan for seven years
and I was eating the flaxseed on everything and the chia chia
overnight, you know, pudding and.
Those I like the Holy Grail foods.
Oh my gosh, I know. I had all the Super foods and I
was in the worst shape of my life.
I was severely anemic. I was almost hospitalized for
it. I had B12 anemia and I had iron
anemia. I had both forms.
I had the worst sick cystic acne all over my mouth and my face,
my cheeks. It was, I'm so lucky I don't
have scars from that horrible cystic acne.
My breasts were engorged. They were so painful.
I couldn't even hug someone. I had gained all this weight.
Cellulite got even worse, inflammation, just constantly
retaining water. And I was looking into it and
I'm like, what could this be? And I started researching and I
found this gal and I can't remember her name.
I wish I remembered her name but she was researching with
tomography. Is it topography?
Thermography. Yes, but also yes and she was
doing breasts and what she found was that flaxseed was creating
this breast cancer environment in the breasts for women and.
The phytoestrophy. Yes, she has a book.
I can't remember her name. I'll, I'll let you know what her
name is. Anyhow, she she's amazing, but
she did all this research on it. And so I removed flaxenchia from
my diet and literally within a week, my face cleared up, my
breast stopped hurting, I wasn't bloated anymore.
I had no more water attention. It was incredible.
So I thought, I can never not tell women about this.
So the women would come into my office and they would have the
same symptoms I had, you know, the cystic acne periods.
They were having two periods a month.
And, you know, they were just a wreck.
And these are young girls. And so I tell him, get off the
flax, get off the chia. They would do that and they
would come back and they were so much better.
Everything would regulate. So, and I know there's people
out there that are going to say, oh, that's not true, that these
are phytoestrogens, your body gets rid of it, blah, blah.
No, the deal is it can be whatever in theory, but it has
to work in reality. And if it is doing this to this
many women who don't know about it, then there's something we
need to look at because theory doesn't cut it.
What about all the other nuts that people eat on the Paleo
diet? Well, you look at like the seed
cycling, right? Are you familiar with that?
Yes, using seed cycling. So you got to be careful with
that. And we're feeding these to our
children that is influencing their bodies.
That's what I got so much hack from all the herbalists about
the carrots in Queen Anne lace and you know, like, oh, you
know, this lady's scaring people from eating carrots and it's
like that's that was the you missed the point.
The point is, yes, we're eating selectively bred plants that are
less poisonous than the wild plant, but we're feeding babies
carrots over meat. Meat is what's going to grow,
their body not. Carrots.
Yeah. It's not like one carrot is
going to have a serious detrimental effect on your
health. But when we're choosing that
consistently over the foods that are really going to nourish us,
yes, and be healthy and healing for us, then it becomes a
problem. Yes.
I've heard you talk about almonds.
Also. Tell us about the the almonds
and the sun. The almonds So the almond tree.
It's so weird. And if someone has better
information than me, please post in the comments because I, I
don't know, like it's hard to find this stuff actually the,
the history on it. But from what I've researched,
almonds, 50 wild almonds would kill a man and that's a freaking
can of nuts. I know somebody has put away a
can of nuts before of modern day almonds, right?
But 50 wild almonds has enough cyanide to kill a man.
So they, they jammed the, the almond tree with I think it was
pine bark. I'm not sure.
I can't remember now. They jammed it in there and then
it stressed out the almond and the almond lost its ability to
produce the the poison. And so that's how they do.
It's just so bizarre to me that people have been able to figure
this out in weird ways, but I've.
Always thought I've always felt a little funny with almonds.
I've always felt something weird with them in particular and I
don't eat them anymore and I feel so much better after giving
them up. But I ate so many almonds when I
first started eating paleo. Just so many nuts like trail my
fruit. All of that much, Yeah.
And they're also loaded with oxalates.
Yeah. And oxalates are really hard on
their gut. They get lodged in your kidneys.
That's where calcium oxalate kidney stones develop.
So we avoid oxalate foods. We do quick rundown on which
foods have a lot of oxalates. Almonds are probably the top
along with spinach. Spinach is another really big
one. And why is it important to avoid
oxalates? Oxalate do they?
It builds up in your system, so your body naturally should be
able to break it down. The gut.
The microbes in the gut should be able to break down some
oxalate and almost all plants have some form of oxalate.
Our body also makes oxalate. In our liver we make oxalate
just as a debris. But you know, if you're eating a
lot of oxalate food, your body is just building it up.
And oxalate is sharp. It's like a little Shard of
glass, almost like a microscopic.
And so the body will bind calcium to it to neutralize it,
and that's where you form calcium oxalate stones.
And you can form stones anywhere in your body.
Kidneys are like the main place everyone knows, but you can form
tonsil stones. You can form stones in your
gallbladder and your pancreas, in your liver, and they create a
lot of problems in a lot of pain.
I mean, if anyone's ever had a kidney stone I've heard of,
they're painful. Childbirth.
Yeah, they're painful. So.
Oxalates are what caused that.
Yeah, they build up in our tissue and they can build up in
your brain. They can build up in they, they
have now started to find them in plaque.
In the arteries of where plaque forms, there's oxalate.
And of course it makes sense they find calcium there too.
Anywhere there's calcium, there's going to be oxalate
build up. So yeah, we weren't really
designed to eat plants. We don't have the guts to break
the plants down and obviously they're killing us.
But you eat some plant, you're not you're not anti plant.
I'm not, I'm not anti plant, you know, we do eat some vegetables,
but I they're mostly like a condiment.
I'll have a salad, you know, we do.
I do some citrus, lemon and lime in my water.
I'll have some cucumber. But what?
Kind of lettuce do you have when you have salads?
I, I like Caesars 'cause I like the anchovies.
So I'll do I'll do you know, just wild mix of whatever grains
I avoid. I'm.
Getting not spinach or kale. I don't eat kale.
Yeah, no, it's too hard to process.
But I will eat. I like roasted Brussels sprouts.
I will eat roasted Brussels sprouts.
And we eat a ton of ferments. So the cabbage, you know,
Anything fermented I will eat. For sure.
Yeah, because when you ferment something the toxins like part
of that process, Yep is it neutralizes the toxins.
Yeah. Exactly.
I love fermented foods. I got turned.
I mean, I, I ate them several years ago and I kind of got out
of that habit, but you inspired me to bring them back and I feel
like they've made a difference in in how I feel.
I feel like my immune system is functioning better.
Yes, my digestion is better. And Kiefer also.
I've been drinking Kiefer. Yes, that's another one.
The goal is to get a variety. So, you know, I tell, I
encourage my members to like go out and start a fermenting club
and get like 7 of your neighbors to make their ferments.
As long as they've good, good microbes.
If these people are obese or not, well then don't have them
make your sauerkraut. You want people to have good
microbes to make the sauerkraut and then you swap microbes.
And that diversity is where you'll build back a really
healthy gut. So how does that?
How does that work when when someone is just making
something, their microbes actually get transferred into
the? Yes, 100%.
Now with ferments it's a different story because you
know, Lactobacillus usually kills off.
It's the major, the major ferment.
What I've found is people who are really unwell, when they go
to make their own cabbage, a lot of times it doesn't turn out
unless they've been through the generations of it, like the
Germans, like they can always make, you know, like it doesn't
matter how obese they are, how many biscuits they they can make
the sour grow. Is this why like people that
make kombucha will say like, oh you have to, you can sing to the
kombucha, you can do these different things and it'll
influence how it grows? Yeah, for sure.
I mean, it's a living Organism. Yeah.
And you know when. You hear studies on like how
that influences water and. Plants.
Yeah, absolutely. Yes, it totally does.
So we're big on getting a variety of ferments.
We like to do different types from all different areas and eat
as many as you can from different types, but a little
bit. You don't want a big potato size
amount, you want just you want it to be like a condiment, the
lactic acid. If you're working out a lot and
you're just eating carnivore and you add in a lot of ferments,
you're going to build up a lot of acid in your system,
especially if you're drinking coffee.
And that can be challenging on your system.
Your system has the ability to neutralize it, but it's harder
for your body. I was thinking like the more the
better. Well, you can eat a lot if
you're neutralizing it with a lot of plant food that's
offsetting the acidity, but you don't need that much.
I mean, the microbes are microscopic, so you only need a
little tiny bit. So we eat like, I'll pull out
six or seven jars of ferments and I have these little tongs
and I just pull out little pieces from each one and I put
it and I develop about two tablespoons worth of ferments on
my plate when I mean my steak or my beef patties or you know
what, lamb, salmon, whatever. A lot of times with fish, I do
kimchi. But you know, yeah, you just do
a little bit at every meal and you chew your ferment and you
chew your meat. This is, I learned this from
Doctor Sonomera. He's the the origins of where
the ferments come in. He's a very dear friend of mine,
but he's really interested in the microbiome.
And what he's found was after studying the visceral fat,
because he's the leading researcher in visceral fat, he
found that people with good guts have less visceral fat.
And ultimately what it boils down to is microbes can make you
produce insulin. Isn't that crazy really?
Not only can bad microbes make you crave sugar because most
people have heard that, but they can make you over produce
insulin, keeping you hypoglycemic hungry all the
time. Because it's a downstream effect
of they make you crave the sugar and then you eat the sugar and
then you produce more insulin just on on their own.
Yes, I looked into this because I wanted to know that too.
I thought, well, you know, because Doctor Shawn always says
you don't want the obesogenic microbes.
You know, he says that all the time.
Don't want the obesogenic microbes.
And I'm like, well, how do they make you obese?
So I looked into it and no, it's not.
Yes, they make you crave sugar. That's an opposite thing.
But there are microbes that can influence the production of
insulin. How?
I don't know. Isn't it crazy they know so
little about the microbiome? I wish they would spend more
money and time on it, because it is.
It is truly where our health lies, is in our gut.
And they've done studies on this.
They've put mice, sterile mice, you know, studied sterile mice,
2 sterile mice in a cage, fed them the exact same diet.
They did fecal matter transplants where they put the
feces of a skinny person into one sterile mice and the feces
of an obese person into the other sterile mice.
They fed them the exact same diet next to each other and the
fecal matter transplant from the obese person made the mouse.
Fat Oh my gosh, people are doing that now, right?
Isn't that? Crazy.
So I'm really into this because I do think microbes are a huge
part of of who we are. I mean they outnumber our cells.
12:50 we have we are more bacteria than we are cells.
So yes, people are getting fecal matter transplants to promote
the growth of good bacteria in the gut and but you have to be
careful with that. Sometimes you can get bad, but
they do it. I've heard it can influence your
like how you think your personality depending on what
kind of microbes you're getting and you know how that person
that you're getting them from. 100% so you have to be really
careful. Really careful.
And it's. Feel like you would want to like
go on a vacation with someone first before deciding to do
something like that? Well, and you know, they tell
you you can just take a stool sample and encapsulate it and
swallow it down, but I just have a really hard time with that.
I mean, I think I'd like to get it from being around people
drinking from the same glass or being, you know, braiding each
other's hair. This is how our ancestors did
it. They didn't have to eat each
other's. They like they knew they were
sharing the microbes together. And is that?
Funny that we've replicated medically something that has
just always been so natural. It's pathetic.
I mean, we're just pathetic crazy.
And it's sad because we don't need to be.
We have this. Yeah, We have this full land.
We don't need to do that. Oh my.
Gosh OK I have a question on keto.
Is it possible for people to eat a keto diet and never actually
be in ketosis? Yeah.
Oh yeah, that was me full on. Yeah, Everybody that has joined
my program has done the keto diet and never been in ketosis.
Yes, unless you're tracking it through blood, you don't know.
So you can know because if you don't eat for five days, you're
definitely probably in ketosis. Yeah.
I've done that. Yeah, and your.
Tones were like at 5, yeah. Your breath smells really bad.
You can feel you get this. Really.
Great clarity. Amazing.
Yes, you'll get this great clarity.
You'll feel like you're running on like like jet fuel.
So you'll know then. But if you want to lose weight,
you have to stay in ketosis for a certain amount of time, and
you have to be a specific range. Otherwise you'll just keep
producing insulin. It'll just keep.
And also your metabolism adapts. So anytime you do something,
your body is fighting back from losing fat.
It never wants to burn fat. So your metabolism will slow
down, your body will adapt so you don't burn more fat.
So there's all these weird things that happen that keep
people from being successful on the keto diet.
And keto traditionally is like what, like 80% fat, 70% fat, and
then like 2030% protein. Yes, they want it's high fat,
lower protein and the problem with that is fat can make you
fat. Right, which is crazy because I
mean, for a while we, we heard the narrative that low fat is
best. And then, you know, a few
decades later, we found out that was not the way to go.
So then there was this overreaction to, OK, well, let's
just eat as much fat as possible and fat is good and it doesn't
make you fat. And I think that there, there's
some truth to that. I don't think we need to be
afraid of fat. But tell us, tell us where you
stand on the fat thing. We do not need to be afraid of
fat, but if we're trying to lose weight and we already have a lot
of fat on our body, we don't want to be burning somebody
else's fat. We want to burn our own fat.
Yeah. OK, that makes sense.
So you, you got to cut the fat down while you're doing while
you're doing fat loss, Once you get to the other side, you'll
learn how much fat is appropriate for you.
But you being in a ranching family, you'll know this.
So the fat on on modern day agriculture is way different
than on grass fed agriculture. Way different it is.
And as tasty on grass fed, it also is harder to eat.
It is like shoe leather. It is not as tempting as this
big fluffy white fat that you see in the Wagyu or the prime
rib or the rib eye on conventional corn fed soy fed
beef it. Is it has less fat toxins right
because the it's. Higher in Omega 6, low in
omega-3, and yes, full of hormones.
Grass fed beef is leaner. It still has higher amounts of
fat. It's leaner, but it has fat that
isn't as edible. Yes, you can.
You can eat as much of it as you can, but it's not going to make
you as fat as the conventionally raised beef.
It's just not so. But here's the deal.
I would eat any day of the week. I would eat a conventionally
raised rib eye over pancakes, over sourdough toast, over
pasta, over whatever healthy plant food they think that is
going to make them healthy, right?
No, meat is our proper fuel. But you have to know there's a
spectrum on which it lies. Wild is the best.
Next is grass fed farm, regenerative raised animals.
And that's pretty good. I mean you're doing really good
if you can do that in today's day and age, most people don't
hunt now, but if you can get some wild game in there, you're
doing even a little bit better. But like I said, there's people
who can't do that They they can't afford the grass fed, so
they have to go buy meat at the store.
And if that's all you, you can do, that's all you can do, you
know, don't. Don't let perfection be the
enemy of good enough. Yeah, so conventionally raised
ground beef is going to be better than like a bowl of
cereal for breakfast. Yes, any day of the week.
Yep. Okay, I want to hear about just
how you eat. Like, what do you eat in a day?
What does that look like for you?
So it varies. When I'm traveling I try to eat
around as much as I possibly can.
So I'm kind of off plan right now.
But when I'm home, you know, a lot of mornings if I'm not doing
a fast, I try to do a 48 hour fast every week.
If I'm not fasting, then I eat whatever meat I have taken out.
It's usually bison beef. A lot of times right now I've
been eating a lot of just top sour line.
I'll take out a couple top sour line steaks.
I'll have sardines with that. I'll have my ferments.
Sometimes I do eggs. So you'll do like.
You'll do, like red meat with sardines?
Yeah. Like, together.
Yeah. Interesting.
I have. 100% Yep. You know I and sometimes I'll do
you know other things. Rarely do I eat processed meats.
I'll have Turkey bacon on occasion if I put it in a
scramble. Do you ever eat regular bacon?
I do eat regular bacon when I'm out very moderately.
So like if I'm on vacation, that's my treat is just like
regular bacon from the restaurant.
Yeah. You know, that's what I consider
a treat because normally I wouldn't put it in my body
because it's just the the animal wasn't raised well.
It's high Omega 6 fats. Pork is not great.
It messes with our lymphatic system.
So I just, but again, you know, I don't do anything else.
You know, I, I am pretty clean. I don't eat.
I, one of our friends asked the other day is like, you don't
even just eat one bite of a warm chocolate chip cookie.
And I said, no, absolutely not. I've already eaten chocolate
chip cookies. I know what they taste like and
I know what they do to my body. And if you take one bite of that
cookie, you feed an enormous amount of bad bacteria just
waiting to grow. Yeah.
So it's not worth it for you? Forget it.
What about fruit? Do you ever touch fruit?
On occasion I'll have berries when they're in season.
I will do berries usually try to do like wild blackberries.
Anything wild I will eat. You know, I might have a couple
strawberries if they look good. I try not to eat strawberries
because they're really, they're grown with fumigants and stuff.
I would probably have something like that, You know, I mean,
this has probably, what is this, a little tangerine, a little
Mandarin, hardly any carbs in this.
I might eat one or two just, you know, to put something in your
mouth, but it's not my food. It's just a little taste of
something different. I like to put citrus in water.
So I mostly eat bison, elk. I have a lot of elk at my house
and then we eat a lot of fish. OK.
So salmon, cod, any, any kind of local fish, wherever we are,
we're always looking for a fish and anything out of the sea, so.
Pretty much meat or fish with ferments as a condiment.
Do you? Veggies is a condiment too
sometimes. Do you worry about Mercurian
fish ever? Nope, I do not tell me because
why? Well, because I tan a lot so
melanin is actually the best heavy metal detox.
I just learned this yes, doing interview prep for my next guest
today who's a heliotherapist. This is wild.
Can you explain how this works? So this is actually Jack Cruz's
stuff, Doctor Jack Cruz. So he, this is who I learned
this from. He melanin detoxes mercury.
So it works perfectly, right? We live by the sea and we eat
the sea and then we're in the sun and we get that
detoxification of the mercury out of our system.
So it the melanin in the skin will like pulls the heavy metal.
Breaks the heavy metal down. Excretes them.
I don't know how the exact. Breaks them down the.
Process of it is, but it it, I don't know if it acts as a
chelating agent or how it excretes it.
I imagine it goes through the liver and the kidneys.
It has to because it goes through the blood supply, but
somehow it neutralizes it and helps you to detoxify from it.
He's done massive work on it. You know, he's neurosurgeon and
he studies the melanin in the brain specifically because
mercury and aluminum and stuff can build up in the brain.
Well, I didn't know we had melanin in our in our brain.
It's. Called the Substantia Niagara
and it's like this dark jet black dirt.
Apparently he talks about it a lot.
That's inside the brain and. That is why our.
Body is so. Smart.
Yes, but that's why I try to keep a golden tan, because I
want to make sure that my body is detoxifying.
And, you know, I don't wear sunscreen.
I haven't in years. I don't do Botox.
I've never done Botox, never done injections of any kind.
And. Your skin looks incredible.
Six. I'm going to be 46 in a month, a
couple months. And that's another thing that
you talk about. Your face changed a lot once you
made all of these changes to your diet and your lifestyle.
And that happens with a lot of the women who go through your
program also, right? Yes, they get more beautiful, so
they get these Pixie faces. So Doctor Shawn has studied
this. People with higher amounts of
visceral fat have, you know, inflammation in their face, but
their noses grow. They get these bulbous look to
their nose. Even women.
I'm not talking about men without.
Visceral fat. Your nose gets bigger, yes.
What? Everything expands wider,
Longer. Yep.
What? So my women, it's like a nose
job. When they go through my program,
they get rid of their visceral fat, they get rid of their
inflammation. Literally, their true noses come
through. Do you think some of that is
because their jaw structure is improving their their bones
because of all the meat that they're eating?
You know, I mean, there could be something with that 'cause
they're chewing and all of it, but there is fat in the face.
The fat the the fat in the face. People are getting it removed
right now. Yeah, yeah.
So anytime you work on the fat in the body, it's going to help
improve the fat in the face. So the visceral.
Fat and the fat in the face. It's like when you get rid of
the visceral fat, you're also getting rid of the the.
Fat The fat in the. Fat in unwanted places 'cause we
want it. We want a little bit in the
face, in the right place, but not superficial subcutaneous.
Fat, yes, that's the fat we want.
That's the fat that keeps your skin young.
So old people don't have very much superficial subcutaneous
fat. They that's why their skin gets
thin and wrinkly, but they have a lot of visceral fat and that
makes them hunch over. They get constipated.
They can't have a bowel movement.
You know, they get mild steotosis.
They have no muscle. Their muscle starts to waste,
Their brain starts to waste because the more muscle you
have, the better brain, brain, you know, cognition you have.
So they get, they just, they get diseased and the disease starts
with the visceral fat, the fat suffocating your organs.
And fat is actually a pro inflammatory organ like it
excretes and. Except superficial, right?
Superficial is anti-inflammatory.
Adiponectin is anti-inflammatory, but deep
subcu, visceral fat, heart fat, myelsteotosis, which is fat in
your muscles, fat in your face. That fat is inflammatory.
So many kinds of fat. So how do we get rid of the
wrong types of fat and build more of the right kind of fat
that we want? That is the question,
girlfriend. So this is what we do at Primal
Bod. This is exactly what we do.
We also help prevent your body from eating away at its muscle
because that's what happens most people, if they do fasting or
they're trying to do restricted calories or whatever, they end
up eating away at their muscle. This is what Ozempic.
Does right? And so you get the Ozempic face
and you look like horrible from Ozempic.
Hollow and. Low metabolism, yeah, the life
force is taken out of you. But in primal body, we don't do
that. We want to preserve the muscle
and build the muscle but burn the bad fat.
So there's a specific way to do that through ketosis.
And it's really freaking hard for almost everybody to figure
out. I don't even know how I figured
it out, honestly. It was Tom with the diabetes,
the insulin, understanding glycogen, understanding anatomy
of the body. And I just put it together so
that, you know, women can understand how their bodies work
because it's different for everyone.
Everyone has their own metabolic rate.
Some women are through menopause, some women are still
having their periods. Some women are 51, some women
are 510. Some women over workout, some
women under workout. So there's all these factors
that make it confusing and you don't understand what am I
doing? Is it working?
Is it not? But what we do at Primal Body is
we help them to learn what their body's needs are.
How much protein do you need to eat to preserve your muscle,
help support your metabolism, but also eat enough that you get
into fat burning? Because if you eat too much, you
might not burn fat. If you eat too little, you'll
slow your metabolism down and then you really won't burn fat
either. There is a Goldilocks, but it's
different for everyone and that's why we track blood
ketones, so we can show the girls by them tracking their
blood ketones what your ketones are doing today.
OK, now we know you're in that exact spot.
That's how much meat you need. We call it the Goldilocks zone
to sustain this fat burning until you get all the fat burned
off your body. Then we have a new set of
instructions, which is then you have a new Goldilocks to find.
How much meat do you need to stain yourself in your perfect
primal body, your bikini body? That's what I get.
The girls you're getting in bikinis, ladies like this is
what we're doing. So you want it.
We don't do the scale. You know, we do do the scale to
watch, but the scale really doesn't mean much.
You know you want to be strong, and who cares what the scale
says, because muscle's heavy, right?
So you want to be stringing. You don't want to be skinny fat.
So the Dojo, or I say Dojo mojo because I used to have a mojo,
Yeah, Keto mojo, yeah. That's like the main thing that
you're using to measure for people to measure and figure
that out. Yes, we use a couple different
tools. I like the Keto Sense.
That one's my favorite. We use the Keto Mojo because
there's girls overseas that do my program and you can only get
the Keto Mojo overseas. It's this weird thing, so we
use. Ketos like a finger prick.
Thing tiny little finger prick, a little bit of blood on the
tester and you know if you're in fat burning or not, if you're
too high in fat burning or too low in fat burning.
So what's the sweet spot in terms of ketone measurements?
Where do you want people to be at?
Yeah, it's, you know, it's really tricky because I've had
girls in my program who have had low ketones and they lose like
30 lbs in three months. So it, it is a tricky thing to
like just put an exact number on it.
But mostly nutritional ketosis is 1.5 to 2.5.
That's like the general guidelines to have that you
start going higher on that. That's where you end up in
problems. You know, doctors will take you
higher on their own. Like for seizures, you know,
epilepsy is treated with ketosis.
They get ketones up high into the sixes and sevens in
hospitals. But that's like working with
doctor territory. But you know, it's like you want
to be between 1.5 to 2.5, but you got to be careful because
there's, like I said, there's all these other things at play.
What's the downside of being of your levels being too high?
Well, you're eating and wet your muscle.
That's a very good question. That's one thing you can also,
you know, you can damage your body because ketoacidosis, which
is really hard for most people to get into ketoacidosis.
Type 1 diabetics usually are who it happens to regular people
mostly they'll just eat away at their muscles and bring their
ketone levels down by raising their glucose levels up by
eating away at their muscle. So that's what you don't want to
happen. That's why we follow our our
guidelines because we don't want women to eat away at their
muscle. We want them to get stronger
while they're doing the program. So we really focus on making
sure that everything makes sense.
So there's blood sugar too to consider.
You know, some people can get really high ketones and their
blood Sugar's stable and they're just have high ketones because
their body has a lot of visceral fat.
So they're making ketones readily.
And but what happens is eventually the body adapts.
It doesn't want to burn the fat, so it'll what?
Are your. Metabolic rate to match whatever
you're doing. And then it just stops and then
you're like, how can I get back into ketosis?
That's what we help people do. OK, this is it can be so tricky.
Are there, if you're in the right level of ketosis, is there
any, do you have any concerns with being in ketosis for
extended periods of time and never coming out of it?
I'm always in ketosis and I've been in ketosis for three years.
I've never been out. I have been in ketosis at a low
range. Then when I fast I go higher.
I try to get my my ketones between 2:00 and 3:00 once a
week at my 48 hour mark of my fast.
The rest of the time I keep my ketones below .8, so below .8.
I'm still burning fat for fuel, but my blood Sugar's great.
So I'm utilizing both of my fuel sources, glucose and fat.
So you just won't get fat if you do that?
And just glucose you're making, your body is making it right
from the meat that you're eating.
Exactly. Yeah.
Bethany knows how much girlfriend.
I love it, yes. How does that work?
Can you explain that for our audience?
Yes, that is gluconeogenesis. So all meat is broken down to
glucose. Your body really only has 2 fuel
sources, one is fat and one is glucose.
Carbohydrates are not essential that that is not a fuel source.
Carbohydrates breakdown to glucose, but so does meat.
The meat breaks down to glucose too.
So you can get all the glucose you need by eating meat.
You can also get all the amino acids you need by meeting eating
meat, but you can't do that from plants.
You can't get all your essential amino acids from plants.
They want to tell you you can, but you can't.
Tell us about your fasting regimen 48 hours a week.
I think most people would think that is a lot of fasting.
How do you do that in a way that works with your body and not
against it? I'm really careful about where
I'm at with my hormones, so it's harder for girls who are having
their period to fast menopausal women.
You don't have to worry. You're not having a baby
anymore. You your ovaries are done.
You're not producing eggs. So the body doesn't really care
about you storing excess fat unless you have low estrogen,
and then it will make a lot of fat 'cause that's fat makes
estrogen. But for girls in their
childbearing years, their body's really sensitive about fat
burning. Their body doesn't want to burn
fat because you need to have fat on your body to help a fetus
grow. So I'm really careful.
I don't fast around ovulation. If I'm hungry around ovulation
or hungry during my period, I do not fast.
But mostly I'm pretty good. I know now my schedule, my
routine and my cycles are always on time.
So I know exactly when I can do my 48 hour fasting.
And it it is a challenge. I will say that you know, the
more you do it, the better you get at it and you'll crave it
eventually. The challenging part is when you
do a 48 hour fast every week. You need to feast in the days
you're eating. You need to really be able to
put down some meat. So I can easily eat 200 to 300
grams of protein a day easily. And that's not a problem for me.
But it's because I fast two days a week that I can eat 300 grams
of protein or more on a day and have no repercussions of it.
I have learned my body is so adapted to do that.
It takes time to get there. It does.
I I recommend people start with 124 hour fast a week.
And then when you feel like you can do more and do more, but you
have to be able to feast. If you don't feast and you fast
that much, you will slow your metabolic rate down.
Yeah, it'll fall out. You'll have.
You'll be weak. I think that's what a lot of
women get wrong when it comes to fasting.
I used to do a lot of fasting and I don't do as much anymore
and I time it with my cycle. I actually want to start doing
more because I've really backed off and I do miss it.
Like what you're describing. Your body starts craving it once
it develops that metabolic flexibility and it's not as
miserable when you when you fast.
It's like your brain works better, your skin looks better,
all kinds of good things are you get your.
Ketones up human growth hormone is at its highest level at 48
hours for women in a fast. For men, at 72, their human
growth hormone peaks. It's at 72 hours of a fast.
For women it's 48. So at 48 hours we are at that
elevated human growth hormone. And human growth hormone is the
hormone for young people, it is the kid hormone.
So it is why we age, because we don't fast, we don't trigger
that human growth hormone. And so every week I want my
human growth hormone high because I want to stay young.
So that's why I can do it. It can actually make you more
youthful by elevating exactly HGH levels and it is muscle
building easier when you have when your HGH is elevated.
It is it will, it will be depending on your testosterone
levels because they work together and insulin, insulin is
also a factor for muscle growth as well.
So you want to have that all perfect.
You want to have high testosterone, high human growth
hormone and you want to have just enough insulin that your
body is making that muscle. And then of course the the
weight bearing exercise because you won't blow muscle unless
you're weight bearing. So do you tailor your workout
routine around your fasting at all?
What does that do? What does that look like for
you? What is your workout routine?
So we just got a gym belt in our house and I love it.
We had a Smith machine, so I would dink around with like
hardly anything. I didn't lift weights for two
years. I kind of got to a point in my
life when I started Primal Bod where I was like, I am tired of
working out. I've done so much working out
and I was just over. My body needed a rest and it was
like 2 years of resting. All I did was walk.
I walked and I wore a weighted vest.
That's where I'm at in life. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong
with that. You can build a freaking bikini
body with a weighted vest in walking.
And I did squats with it on and some lunges here and there.
But a couple times a week, I mean, I wasn't doing anything
serious, but I realized that I had developed a lot of slow
twitch muscles doing that in my fast twitch muscles were not
there. So I wanted to get, you know,
that runner's booty. I want to get that sprinter
booty. I wanted to get the fast twitch
muscles. So and I do Sprint, you know,
but I'm not as as good at it as I want to be.
But now that we have the gym, I've been lifting and I've been
really getting into lifting to failure because that failure
part is the struggle which helps burn visceral fat.
When you're struggling for anything, sprinting, high
intensity jiu jitsu, that fight, that dominate fight that will
burn visceral fat. Yeah, so.
What if shot is fat? Sprinted in college and she was
like, if you want to burn the belly fat, like you've got to
Sprint, it's the best way to do it.
And she had no belly fat. But when you Sprint, I mean, you
got to run like you're running from a Mountain Lion.
Like you have to like run. You have to do it.
And so now I'm lifting weights like I am fighting for like a
boulder fell on me. So I'm getting there.
I'm also doing the the burnout method where I'm doing like
light with high reps because I think both is important.
So I'm doing the weight training, trying to build up my
fast twitch muscles. And you know, I will work out on
the first day of my fast and then I don't on my second day of
my fast. I take it as a full rest day.
Are you, are you, are you hungry then?
Like do you feel like you refuel after you work out?
I go through waves of hunger, yeah, but I'm so fat adapted
that it doesn't come until about 36 hours in.
I start feeling a little bit of like, OK, I'm hungry, but I
always base it on a scale. How hungry am I?
Zero to 10? Oh, I'm like a three.
I'm not really that hungry. OK, I can keep going.
And then I just keep going. And then before I know it, I'm
like, oh, I could go a whole another day.
You know, like you'll have little waves, but again, you go
drink a little fermented pickle juice and it immediately goes
away. Such a good hack.
And you're and or go play outside and it immediately goes.
Away being in the sun, yeah. And you're just like, oh, I'm
fine, I don't. I think that's another thing
people don't realize about fasting.
The hunger doesn't like build and build and build until it's
intolerable. Yeah, feel it.
You experience it and then it kind of subsides.
And then, yeah, it comes back and then it subsides again.
When you start burning fat, you're you get jet fuel, you get
ketones, you feel like Energizer, buzzy Bunny.
But you also, your appetite goes away because you're burning the
fat on your body. Yeah, but then your body catches
on to that. Hi, sweetheart.
And your body's like, holy smokes, I'm, we're burning fat.
We got to stop this. So then you get hungry, you
know, so your body has all these checks and balances to keep you
alive, but knowing it is the gold, Knowing what's happening
is like, OK, I'm not going to die.
There's plenty of food around. I'm doing this for the health
benefits. You'll relax your
parasympathetical turn on and you'll you'll not in a stress
mode. So it's good for you.
One thing people will say about fasting is that when when you
are, you know, quote like starving your body, then when
you eat again, your body will hold on to that food as fat.
What would you say to that? I think what more happens is
people, when they do do things like that, calorie restrict and
then go back to eating, they do come in with a lowered metabolic
rate. And so their metabolism's just
kind of screwed. It's lower, but I do think they
tend to overeat more carbs to put the fat back on.
Yeah. They just aren't realizing
that's what's happening. And carved.
Biological desire, right? You're going to want to like
guess stuff your face and and build fat, but that's where I
guess you just need to have food, some discipline and eat
the right foods coming out you. Need to change.
If you want your reality to change, you have to change your
personality. That's Doctor Joe Dispenza.
Change your personality, which means you're not going to fall
into the old trap of who you were with just going back and
getting yourself fat again. Yeah, right.
I mean, the fat isn't serving you, it's it's causing disease.
So you just need to see it for what it is.
And like you said, have the self-control and stop yourself
from eating the foods that make you fat.
Eat the meat. The meat isn't going to make you
fat. Yeah.
But meat will also give you enough fuel that you won't burn
your own fat if you're not careful.
This is why the carnivores get plateaued.
You eat just the right amount of meat and your body's like we
don't have to tap into our fat. So but meat in general isn't
going to make you fat. And actually they studied this
and I can't remember the guy's name, but I just watched a
podcast. He was talking super awesome and
he was saying they did all these studies and they found that you
can eat as much protein as you want.
You're not going to get fat. It'll you'll build more muscle
and the body will just utilize it and then you're just not
going to get fat from it. So, and that's what I found.
I've done my own private studies on my own body and what I've
noticed is, you know, I can go a whole month and feast and eat
200 to 300 grams of protein every single day and I don't
gain any weight. Wow.
So. How do most people like?
Can this be something that you approach pretty intuitively or
do do you recommend that people need to be calculating like
grams of protein based on height and different things at?
First they need to calculate because they need to learn.
It have never done. I feel like I'm kind of averse
to it. Yeah, I know I was too.
But honestly, once you learn it, you'll never have to learn it
again because meat is our proper fuel.
And once you learn how much meat you need, you'll know I need to
be eating near that. Now.
You'll have moments of intuitive eating where you're like, I'm
not that hungry today. That'll be your hormone cycle.
And that's when you go, OK, I'm just not, I'm OK.
I'm just on fast today. So it doesn't have to be rigid,
but most women under eat protein and they don't know how much
muscle they could have if they ate the right amount of protein.
So that's where I I say they need to calculate for a while
and understand what their true needs are.
I've heard you talk about fasting and sagging skin, like
specifically the little gobble. Can fasting help the skin to be
more youthful and plump and less saggy?
I've seen it in my in my group, I've seen the women, their skin
has gotten so much better the 24 hour fast that we do every week.
I mean, it's just incredible what you can see over three
months just in their skin. So I have a lot of women that
are really heavy. They have a lot of weight to
lose. They get the sagging skin.
Most of these women, if they hadn't done Primal bot, if they
had done Ozempic, if they've done something else, they would
have needed, needed a tummy tuck.
Honestly, they would have needed it and they leave my program and
they don't need that. Everything tightens the skin.
This whole declitage area gets better with fasting, but you
have to think of it like your body is breaking down old dead,
decayed cells. Yeah, Is that autophagy?
Is that what's happening exactly?
So then new stem cells can be produced and new cells can be
born healthier cells. So if you've been feeding
yourself carbs, you're like building a body out of
cardboard. If you're feeding yourself meat
and healthy fats, you're building out of raw material.
The the nutrients we need to build those vibrant cells that
come through healthy and young, youthful.
Yeah, I've heard Doctor Jason Fung talk about that, patients
that, I mean he does extended fasting protocols with people
who really need it, who are overweight and people when
they're done with these extended fast, people that would
typically need like a skin surgery afterwards don't need it
because the fasting in the autophagy kind of takes care of
that issue. Exactly.
What about insulin? How does chronically elevated
insulin show up on the skin before it ever shows up on a lab
test? That's a really good question.
Skin tags is a big one. So skin tags, cystic acne can be
assigned because you're dealing with polycystic ovarian
syndrome, you know, facial hair, that's all polycystic ovarian
syndrome and that is diabetes of the ovaries.
So PCOS, when you form cysts in your ovaries, that is a sign
that your ovaries are insulin resistant.
That's fascinating. I've never heard anyone say
that. I've heard Alzheimer's described
as type 3 diabetes. Are can can insulin kind of
impact any organ system within the body?
Like is, does it just kind of go to different places depending on
where you're like genetically vulnerable?
It goes to where the receptor is so that the ovaries have some of
the highest amounts of insulin receptors on them.
Which makes sense, right? Because the mother, if she's
going through a famine and is starving, the blood sugar levels
drop low. So the body senses that the
blood Sugar's low, the ovaries will sense it first, and the
mother will will not drop an egg.
This is why a lot of women who overwork out and over diet lose
their periods because they're not getting that insulin in
there to trigger the egg to release.
And that's why you don't want us fast.
Too close to ovulation, right? Because your body will sense I.
Actually noticed that when I was doing more fasting, if I fasted
in the follicular phase, like too close to ovulation, my
ovulation would get delayed. Yes.
Like I would still ovulate, but it wouldn't happen when it
normally does. Right.
And it's because the body doesn't want to get pregnant if
you're under a stressful event, which is in our situation for
humans, it's a famine is the most common stressful event for
most humans or it was, it's not now, but it was.
So that's that's why. So it's really nature's birth
control. And the the same thing can
actually be happening, but because of a different reason,
because of the chronically high insulin, the antibody can shut
down in the same way that yeah, when the body becomes resistant
to it. Yes, you'll develop a cystic
environment. Also high insulin environment is
also related to endometriosis, All kinds of hormonal, not just
PCOS, but other issues. So you know, polyps are a sign
of insulin resistance. Any kind of growth is a sign of
insulin resistance, like growth that you don't want.
Cystic acne, zits, you know, skin tags all can be signs of
insulin resistance and later that turns into diabetes.
Yeah, yeah. And man, I'm just thinking about
all the women that are struggling to get pregnant and
going to these fertility clinics like you mentioned, when really
in a lot of cases, maybe they just need to understand how
their insulin works. Yes.
That's wild Diet aside, what are some other ways that we can
regulate our insulin response? So I think one of the bigger
ones for me is coffee being able to be free of the addiction of
caffeine, because coffee will make you a sugar burner.
It makes you release cortisol. Cortisol triggers a glycogen
dump. Glycogen is excess glucose that
we keep in our liver and our thighs for backup sugar.
And anytime you drink coffee, you trigger that glycogen
release, which elevates your blood sugar.
So you're just in a moment of fight or flight all day, which
means you're constantly producing sugar.
So coffee would be a big one. Lack of sleep.
Also, you know, sleep, a lack of sleep can raise your blood sugar
up just naturally because you're in fight or flight, because
you're not refreshed, your brain is not refreshed.
So it triggers the sympathetic mode to be in fight or flight.
So you're more alert. So you produce more cortisol.
Really it comes down to cortisol.
But yeah, I think that, you know, mostly it's the food.
Mostly it's the food and the lack of movement.
Movement is another big part to help.
If you these people that eat a lot of carbs, if you move like
an NFL player or like a ballerina, you can have more
carbs and tolerate it. It doesn't mean you're not going
to develop insulin resistance later on, because a lot of them
do. But you can eat them and not get
fat, but you have to move that much, but your body still will
produce the insulin. So you're still later down the
road develop insulin resistance. These guys that are doing these
races, you know, and they're taking these glucose packets and
they're fueling and all this glucose stuff as they're going,
and they're eating copious amounts of glucose.
And they're super thin, lean cyclists.
But they're now getting insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes
from it because they're just overdoing the glucose.
Yeah. So it'll still catch up with
you. You mentioned coffee.
I'm sure you get a ton of pushback on that.
No one wants to hear that. Is coffee also affecting our
skin and making women less attractive?
Oh my gosh, yes, for sure. This is why we see such awesome
before and afters in my program with the girls with their skin.
I mean, it just big 10 years goes off their face 'cause
coffee dehydrates you, it dehydrates the skin and then you
form wrinkles. So yeah, it's very dehydrating.
It's super acidic. It's it's a toxin.
Going back to movement real quick, I know you also talk
about moving after meals. What would you recommend as just
kind of a standard thing for people to do after they eat to
regulate blood sugar? You know, even if you can only
just get out and do a 10 minute walk, it's better than nothing
if you can't get out and walk. Like if you're just like on your
lunch break, drop down and do 40 squats.
Just do 40 squats. Go in the bathroom if you don't
want to do them in front of anybody.
That will activate your blood flow.
It will get your your muscles working and it will just make
you more insulin sensitive. But you know, insulin is
released in the pancreas and then it goes throughout the
bloodstream. So the more you can increase
your circulation through a walk or doing squats, you're going to
move that insulin around and it's going to activate the
glucose. And anytime it activates the
glucose, it lowers the blood sugar.
But if you don't activate it and you're just sitting and the
insulin's just pulling, your blood sugar will stay elevated
and your brain will say, oh, the Sugar's elevated still, we need
to produce more insulin. So you will over produce
insulin. So getting out and going for a
15 minute walk after you each time after you eat.
Super super helpful. But I recommend everyone walk
for seven miles a day on top of what they're walking around in
their house and their normal day.
Walking is the best. It is the best.
Way to burn fat. Yeah.
And I do 15 jumping squats. So I don't know, like 40 normal
squats. Like maybe I need to be doing
like 20 to, I mean, like that same level as what 40, like
normal squats would do. But I don't know.
It's become a habit. And I was on a long flight a few
days ago. And so I wasn't able, there
wasn't enough room in the bathroom to do that.
Like, it was frustrating. And I felt it like I felt just
like, stagnant and sticky. And so I started doing, like,
calf raises just to do a little something.
Yes. But yeah, once you get in the
habit of it, it just feels so much better.
I think a lot of people have restless leg syndrome because
they're not walking enough. Yeah.
You know, like, go out and get your energy out, go walk.
Yeah, also a bad gut can cause that.
But I think like, just walk. So 7 miles a day?
How long does that take? It takes about two hours, so I
split it up. I do 3 1/2 in the morning and 3
1/2 in the evening and we just go.
Sometimes I wear my way to best, sometimes I don't, depending on
the weather. But being outside for two hours
a day, it is so helpful for your eyes, for your skin, for your
mood, for your lungs. You're breathing in fresh air.
You know, you're adjusting to the temperature.
You're circulating your blood. I mean, there is nothing like
walking. Yeah, especially if you can get
out in the morning like you sat aside.
Yeah. Not on a treadmill.
Your eyes get outside and do it. So important.
OK, I want to quickly go over a few concerns that people may
have about eating a lot of meat. One is cholesterol.
What would you say to anyone who's concerned about
cholesterol when eating a high meat diet?
Well, this is a good one because they've kind of got some new
studies on this now. And So what they've learned is
low cholesterol is actually linked to all 'cause mortality,
really, but high cholesterol is actually linked to nothing.
So. This is a big scam.
I think you know, there is something to be said about it
because you can. Cholesterol is a healing tool
for the body. It's it's.
Like so good for the brain. It's like the body's natural
Neosporin. I mean, it's, it's used for all
of our hormones. It's a building block for all of
our hormones. We have to have cholesterol.
However you can get too much. It will come out your skin.
Literally it comes out your skin how it it because it just builds
up in the body. It's not dangerous unless you
have internal wounds. Then it becomes the plaque that
that everyone is scared of builds up in the body but
cluster itself. If you just build up too much
cholesterol, it can start to come out the skin if your body
has too much so and what is that?
Is it noticeable or it just? Got usually comes out into the
eyes, but it can come out on the hands and it it, it looks
yellow. It looks like pockets of
cholesterol under the skin. Yeah, it's very unattractive.
It's not attractive. So, you know, I worry about that
with a lot of the carnivore community because they eat a lot
of this, this fat from animals that have been selectively bred.
So our bodies really weren't made to eat a lot of fat, a lot
of fish fat, but not a lot of selectively bred animal fat,
right? We're, we're used to eating wild
game that has a way less amount of fat.
But now you see people eating these huge rib eyes that are
conventionally raised on all this corn and soy, and they're
eating. Sticks of butter with it and
they're just building up too much cholesterol in their body.
It's just too much. They don't need that much.
Our bodies make cholesterol without having to eat it.
Our bodies will make it, but you can get it through your food
supply too, and your body will utilize it just like our bodies
make fat, but you can also eat fat and utilize it as fat or
fuel too. So, you know, I think moderation
is OK, but you know, as far as cholesterol ranges are
concerned, I don't buy into any of it.
Like it's all just a bunch of BS to me.
I think that you should work with your doctor on whatever,
but really the underlying issue is find a doctor that knows
really what cholesterol is doing.
Find a doctor that isn't still going off of the old outdated
textbook from when they were in medical school that was outdated
at the time it was written and now is even more outdated.
Yeah, I mean, it's just really old, bad information.
So they told everybody to eat low fat, and it didn't stop
heart disease. Yeah, you know, it just made it
worse. Why?
Because carbs are turned into fat.
And when the body makes cholesterol, fat, cholesterol
and protein go together and they just, you know, it, all the
oxalates people are eating, all the vascular damage from lack of
sunlight, and you're just of course you're going to have
heart disease. And so eat the right kinds of
meats as much as possible. Yeah.
And it's not a concern. Most people see their
cholesterol goes gets better, you know, if they had high
cholesterol, whatever gets better on the keto diet after
being on it for several months into a year, at first, the
cholesterol goes up because fat liberates.
When you're in ketosis, that means fat has liberated.
It means it's come out of the fat cell and your body's using
it for fuel. Inside the fat cell is
cholesterol. So cholesterol comes with it
into the bloodstream. So anytime you do keto, when you
get your ketones up, your cholesterol will naturally rise
with it, but then the body just utilizes it and makes it work.
So it always so. Anytime there's like a lot of
weight loss, those the the fat cells are going to be liberated
and your cholesterol is just going to go up your higher.
Right, and here's the deal is when they go in to test you for
a for a fast, you know, you're or when they go in and blood
test you, you're supposed to be fasted from the night before or
whatever. And who knows if you've already
started burning some ketones. True, your cholesterol is just
high from that, you know, I mean, it's just such a scam.
Blood work is just such a it's just not getting to the root of
the problem. Otherwise people wouldn't be
dying. Do you think people are being
too like overly mindful of what their blood work says and not
how they feel? Yes, I think that people have
hired bad doctors and I, I don't think the doctor himself is a
bad person. I think they're bad doctors
because they, you know, they sign an oath, they say they are
going to help support people, but they really don't because
they're not willing to take the time and truly investigate
what's going on and what's happening and asking the right
questions and asking people what they're eating and getting to
the root of the problem. They want to just write a
prescription because they want to help another person.
Yeah, they don't have time. They don't, they want to help
more people and there's so many people to be helped, but it's
the wrong thing to do 'cause it's not working.
Yeah. So they need to hire the the
doctors that understand what's going on.
There's not a lot of them out there.
It's it's hard pickings. But I think more and more as
time goes on. Yep.
OK, Another common sticking point with eating high meat
intake? Pooping.
A lot of people say they have trouble pooping when they start
including a lot of meat in their diet.
Yes, and they think they need fiber to make that better.
And ultimately, fiber usually makes things worse because it
causes, you know, wear and tear on the inside of the gut, which
then causes bad poor communication for the gut.
So peristalsis is what makes the gut move.
And what triggers that is, you know, of course, your vagus
nerve can trigger that, but also your microbiome can trigger
that. So we always have the girls
introduced ferments. That usually takes care of a lot
of it. Also, if your drainage pathways
aren't working, you know if your gut has low gut motility, so
magnesium and potassium can really help with that too.
Vitamin C also helps open up the drainage pathways.
So those are a couple things. When people have bad guts, low
gut motility, their peristalsis isn't working, we do that.
Also red light. Red light in the morning can be
really good for a slow moving gut.
On the stomach. Interesting, you ever heard of
that? It it creates energy in the
mitochondria. So the mitochondria gets
stimulated by the red light and anytime the mitochondria are
stimulated, they produce ATP. And what's ATP energy.
If your gut is, if you can't poop, your guts doesn't have
energy. So stimulate the mitochondria to
produce the energy and then you'll have the energy to go.
That's good. I heard one time you talked
about this concept of the difference between joy and
pleasure and how eating that sweet treat or whatever it is
may provide you with that short term pleasure and satisfaction,
but it's not going to give you the joy that comes from looking
and feeling good long term. How would you encourage anyone
who who struggles with that, who struggles to make good decisions
that are going to benefit them in the long run?
Yeah, I think some of it is, you know, talking to your audience,
I would say if your mom and a dad like, like, do better for
your kids, make it about your kids and not about you because
you know how the food makes you feel.
Think of how it's making them feel now as far as the joy and
pleasure is concerned. You know, a lot of young people
and parents that you know, they want to use food as their
escape. They're and even the older
generation, you know, it's food is, is Oh well, you want to cook
and have joy together, right? And bring everybody together and
all get fat and there's no joy in food.
You never remember the casserole from Aunt Betty on your
deathbed, right? Like that isn't going to be what
you bring with you. And it's not what you pray about
at night. You know, you pray about health
for your family. So if you pray about health for
your family, then do the right things and be healthy because
that is what's going to bring you the joy in the long term is
the memories with your family. Food is pleasurable and it
should be. We ate wonderful food while we
were here and it brought me a lot of pleasure.
I loved it. You know, it was like, yes, this
tickles my taste buds and it should, but it's fleeting.
It's gone in seconds, but the fat on your ass is going to sit
there for a long time. So you taste that cheesecake.
It's gone in 20 minutes. The whole pleasure scene is gone
and all you're left with is the depression and the guilt.
So you know you you're just in a vicious cycle of self abuse.
This is why I love you out of it.
You're so good at just shooting straight and it's so motivating
and empowering. Well, thank you.
I love it. Thank you.
And I struggle with that too. I still feel like, I don't know
if it's from childhood. I think a lot of us when we did
something good, we would get like a treat.
And it's like, it's like how we treat dogs, but we treat
ourselves that way too. Like I still find myself after
I've had like a stressful day or after, you know, something
exciting happens. I'm like, oh, it's a treat.
I want a treat right now. But why do I want a treat?
Like, do I deserve a treat because either something did or
didn't go my way? It's like this weird like thing
that's ingrained in our minds. And it's because our bodies
naturally want to get fat. So for your body, it's a treat
because it's like, holy, you know, 120,000 years ago, you
would have never had the opportunity to have a chocolate
covered hazelnut or cashew or whatever.
Like there that wasn't around. Yeah.
Now that it's around, your body can be like, Oh my gosh, yeah,
that's a treat for us because we get to make more fat.
The body doesn't know that you can produce so much fat you can
kill yourself. Right.
It doesn't know that because our our DNA was programmed in a
world where there wasn't, there wasn't the ability to do that.
Yeah, And that's so important for for people to remember too,
because we all have those those desires just biologically.
But that doesn't mean we need to give in to them.
That doesn't mean we like, we shouldn't trust that feeling.
We should trust, you know, we should lean into like, our minds
and think critically, not like whatever you feel like.
Eating must be what I need because intuitively right now, I
feel like I need it. No, like we were biologically
programmed to want these things because that's how we survived
in the past. But that's not you need to not
like that aside in today's day and age, yeah.
It's the zoo. It's not the reality.
The reality is the wild, and anyone that hunts, anyone that
lives on a farm, that lives on a ranch, knows it's not the
reality. So Candy, I came across
something that I wanted to get your take on.
This is a quote from Oprah and she says all these years I
thought I was overeating because of me and my fault.
Now I understand that if you carry the obesity gene, that is
what makes you overeat. You don't overeat and become
obese. Obesity causes you to overeat.
Wrong. Oh my goodness.
Yeah. And she's selling Ozempic, isn't
she? Oh yeah, she's selling one of
them for sure. They're all doing that.
I mean, that's just insane to me that their marketing is that
obesity gene. Every human has the obesity
gene. All humans want to get fat.
That's just a biological imperative.
And obviously because if you eat the way modern humanity eats,
you get fat. Most of the population is fat
right now and. Pharmaceutical companies are
looking for a way to sell more Ozempic and make you feel like
it's not your fault they're in the easy view.
Yep, they're the easy button here.
Take this injection, we're going to charge you massive amounts of
money. I mean, it's a multi trillion
dollar criminal enterprise, big pharma, and they're just going
to keep pushing the drugs. Candy And if you could encourage
every woman listening to make one change starting today, what
would that be? Eat more meat, Eat more meat
just as plain as that and and buy support regenerative farms
because we got to get rid of this corn fed, soy fed meat
system. It it just has to go.
We need babies to eat a lot of protein.
We need moms to feed them. We need moms to nurse, We need
families to start their own farm.
You know we need regenerative farming to come back.
We need people to start eating more meat because if you start
eating more meat, everything in your body is going to heal.
You won't be hungry for the ice cream.
If you're hungry for the ice cream, go eat a steak, right?
If you are hungry for chocolate covered nuts, eat beef jerky.
Always some pickle. Brine.
Always pick meat first, Yeah. And you'll just, you'll start to
see that your cravings will become nonetheless your insulin
will become more low and you'll not be making so much fat.
Candy, thank you for being here. This was such a good
conversation. Tell our listeners where they
can find you and continue to learn from you.
And also tell us about your new book that you just launched.
Yes. So we launched a new book, it's
called Get Sexy Girlfriend. It's on Amazon.
You can download the Kindle or get the hard copy.
And it was super fun to write. We absolutely just love doing
that. So I'm an author now.
I never thought I would be, but I am.
Get sexy girlfriends. So yeah, our ancestors were
sexy. You should be too.
And it's the truth, so. There's do a a voice a voice
version I'm. Thinking about it, you should.
It's me too. Yeah, you should.
One of a girl just said, oh, I bought your book and I I wanted
to I wanted to buy the version where you read it and I thought,
oh, shoot, that's a sign I need to read it.
So yeah, we might do that. You'll.
Just have to like stick yourself in a closet for however long it
takes. I always imagine that being
like. So tedious.
Yes, I'm sure it will be worth it.
Yes, for sure. And then I'm on all social
media. It's at the Primal Bod is my
handle on all the social media. And then our website
primalbod.com there perfect. That's all the places.
Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.
What a freaking fantastic place to be.
And and I just love your energy. Your skin is amazing.
It's just glowing at me. Thank you.
So yeah, thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Yeah.