Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's wait for that.
Can somebody grab me some of this mustard?
Like, pick some of this. Here I go.
You know you have sulforaphane everywhere.
Whoa, this is a first. You don't eat that.
This is no. Should I of?
Course. OK I feel like I should wait
till we eat. Should we do this on air?
Tastes like cauliflower. We're not like these weaklings,
like we are totally capable. You are speaking music and
Symphony to my soul right now. I just really appreciate the
courage you have for saying that and standing in your power.
Welcome to Grounded Wellness. I'm your host Bethany McDaniel,
founder of Primarily Pure, mom of three and biohacking
enthusiast. We created this podcast to bring
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With experience in topics like fasting, parasites, ancient
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This conversation introduces a perspective rooted in intuition,
biology, and simplicity, why water and minerals are
foundational for healing, and how modern life has pulled us
away from the things that actually nourish us.
Shervin's grounded yet expansive approach invites you to question
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intuition. Let's dig in.
Shervin, I am so excited to finally get to chat with you.
We've been trying to schedule this for a while.
And you are someone who has been into health and Wellness,
mindfulness, spirituality, all of these things for a very long
time. So you are a wealth of
information. And I'm just, I'm so excited to
learn from you and for our audience to learn from you too.
And you've already taught me something.
So we have these for anyone who's listening and not
watching. I'm holding a mustard seed plant
shirving. Literally just picked this out
of the pasture and started eating it because what are the
benefits of eating this? Well, it's, you know, first of
all, it's an honor to be here with your team.
Love the spot. Used to drive by here all the
time on the 15. I'm from San Diego and so we go
through here all the time and I always knew there was something
special about this corridor. So well done here.
And you know, it's, it's interesting because I was, I
learned at an early age that if you just look outside your front
door and within a mile of your house, you'll find all the
nutrients and all the medicine growing around you.
And in Southern California, we have so much herbage that has so
many antibacterial, antimicrobial, antioxidant
properties, polyphenols, detoxification pathways.
This right here is the mustard flour, which is high in
sulforaphane. It tastes like cauliflower,
tastes like broccoli. Try it right now.
And what is that stuff good for? Phase one.
Phase two, detoxification in the body helps the body methylate.
It's it's good for the entire GI tract, good for the oral
microbiome. I mean, it's epic, and the ones
over by my house in Laguna are a little bit spicier, which could
just mean a different soil or maybe it's a salt from the
ocean. I'm not sure.
I'll have to look at it. But it's an honor to be here.
How much of this should I be eating because I'm out here a
lot? How much is too much because I
tend to overdo things? Well, sometimes you're supposed
to overdo to know where your limits.
Are I love that. Yeah, it's like this whole thing
where, you know, give me the exact dosage or the allopathic
way. Of course, certain standardized
extract compounds, you want to know exactly what you're doing
because there is a good baseline of equivalents.
The scientific method has been used, but we're all different.
We handle things different and sometimes you're supposed to get
a little bit sick off something. Right.
You just made me feel so much better about that impulse that I
have because I get made fun of by friends and family for for
that like part of my personality that I tend to like go too hard
or, you know, really close to like the limit on things.
But that makes me feel a lot better.
You got to go berserk, you know, because we got one shot at this.
And then if you're like always reserved or hesitating, you just
don't know exactly what your threshold is.
And that I live by the hormetic principle, which is that which
does not kill you, makes you stronger.
And so my background in Ayurveda, I went deep in our own
personal apothecary and understanding what herbs are,
understanding what pot herbs are like this mustard or broccoli,
and then therapeutic herbs like ashwagandha, and then
understanding there are poisonous herbs.
Every single herb out there, whether they're pot herbs that
you're throwing in your salad or something for some kind of
therapeutic process has a little bit of a toxic effect in the
body. That's how it triggers the
immune response. That's how herbs work.
And so eating some of that, you know, you're causing your body
to elicit a response. That response then activates the
nervous system, which then turns something called transcription
factors on. And now all of a sudden your
body can mobilize and do something cool.
You know, it's really interesting.
And every single urban nature has a specific process of energy
within the human body, just like our body is completely connected
to the soil and the minerals, right?
If I took all the, you know, all the earth out of you right now,
you turn into a jellyfish and wither away within 30 seconds,
you're literally made of the earth.
And that's such a, you know, trippy thing to think about.
You know, the silica, the calcium, the zinc, the gold in
you, you know, all of these things, the magnesium in you.
And that's just one of the, the deep meditations I have to
really put me back into a state like, no, we're not separate at
all. Everything is interconnected.
And Speaking of the Earth, we are grounding right now here at
the Regenerative Farm. What are the benefits of
grounding? Tell our audience about it.
Well, you know, grounding is caught in.
I remember 1520 years ago when I was at my cousin's longevity
conferences, he'd make everybody come outside and put their feet
on the earth and they had a thermal scan and they would scan
people before grounding. And then after grounding, some
people don't ever touch the earth.
Like they're either in their house, they're in their car, or
they're wearing, you know, rubber shoes or whatever the
hell they're wearing. And so their bodies are
literally disconnected from the Schumann resonance of the Earth,
which is an electric pulse. It's a stimulation, it's a
stimuli. There's no debate.
We're in some type of electric grid.
And these charges are part of our atmosphere, they're part of
cultivation, they're part of health.
And so if you're completely disconnected from it, you live
on the 30th floor, you're living in your bathing and Wi-Fi and
radiation all day long. Your body is building up
reactive oxygen species and a lot of free radicals that can't
off gas from that connection. So immediately you get on the
Earth, all of a sudden inflammation goes down, blood
cells start to open up a little bit.
Capillaries open up, pathways open up, cortisol comes down,
intuition raises. All of these things are
interconnected. So I'm always grounding to the
earth. I'm always putting my feet in
the ocean, which is probably the primary, primary spot, or
getting up in the forest. Like in Big Sur, we hike up to
certain spots. There's, you know, cold rivers.
You just, you're, you know, you're plunging in that
grounding to the earth. You can't just go to like a
regular, like, municipal park in the middle of LA because under
those parks are sewage systems and God knows what they've built
underneath these cities. So that connections not really
there. I don't care if it's grass.
So just a little bit of common sense has to apply.
I think we're good here. Yeah.
Yeah, I think we're. Good, this looks good.
Yeah, grounding is incredible. And if this sounds crazy to you,
just try it. You'll notice a difference.
I love that it's measurable, like you said.
We had Clint Ober on the show, and I love this quote from him.
He says that the rubber sold shoe was the most deadly
invention of all time. Like so much sickness and
disease correlates with when people started wearing rubber
sold shoes instead of leather shoes and lost that connection
to the earth. It's fascinating.
Bravo to him for actually seeing such a strong statement.
You know, I, I've said that statement about many things and
it doesn't mean that, you know, something has to beat the other.
They're all meeting somewhere in this cross section of our
disconnection to our mother. And so I would agree to that,
you know, and it's also the mindset that we that to be
extracted so far to not even understand that this is a real
science and that the Physiology of the human being is supposed
to be connected to the earth is really a detriment to our
society and future generations and the generations that we have
right now. When I think about an animal,
you know, and we are animals. When animal gets hurt, what does
it do? It fasts.
It stops eating so it can go into metabolic autophagy and it
digs a hole in the earth and buries itself in the earth to
cocoon to the mother to get those electrons and other other
aspects into the body. We've totally lost our way.
I always say we've forgotten what we've forgotten.
Can you imagine if humans did that?
Like if we when we got sick, we dug a hole, stopped eating for a
little while. Like it's nature's medicine.
It's nature's medicine, and I think you're seeing it now with
a lot of the disease stuff that's going on.
A lot of people are now talking about, you know, inducing
yourself into caloric restriction, you know?
Yeah, I want to talk to you about that too for.
Sure, but you add in sunlight, sunbathing, earthing, spring
water, Icelandic, sea salt. Now you got something good here.
Now Clint actually has a story, too, because he grew up kind of
with some Native American tribes, and there was a girl in
the tribe who was sick. No one could figure it out.
The elders dug a hole for her, put a campfire next to her.
Someone was with her, like around the clock, and she just
stayed in the hole until she got better.
She recovered. I love.
So simple. I love this stick the word right
out of my mouth. I love the simplicity of it when
you things shouldn't be complicated to work.
It's like Occam's razor, right? The simplest explanation is
usually the right answer. Well, it's same thing with our
health. It's the same thing with, you
know, how we move through life and relationships and building
bonds and being productive to society.
It can't if it's overly complicated, that's not the
ticket. It's got to be a simple solution
like got to take your charcoal, got to get the spring water, got
to get your movement every day. All of the really like I would
say high end exotic applications for radical health.
Some of them are are cool, but they're but without the root,
it's all for nothing. It's just show and it's got
fragile. I would say stability because
the roots are not in the ground, you know, and you can't I, I
look at it like planting A cacao tree like we do on our farm in
Kauai. If if you don't nurture that
seedling and nurture A juvenile and get it into the earth
properly from the beginning, with the right sources, with the
right lighting and all that stuff, it's not going to fruit
for you. And Speaking of foundational
things, sunshine is something I think of as being very
foundational, but it's something that we are taught to either be
afraid of or avoid. But what are we missing out on
when we don't get enough natural sunlight?
This is also another cornerstone of being human right and being
part of nature's ecosystem. Sunlight, our father son is, is
literally the, the connection to rebuild every biochemical
process in the human body and to turn on the innate immune system
and to activate every neurotransmitter and to build,
you know, faculty after faculty after faculty.
You know, everyone asked me, what's your, what's your sleep
ritual like? You know what, how important is
that? And I, I'm sleep hygiene is
huge. It in our home.
Sleep comes #1 right? But your sleep begins on the
rise, right? And if you are not waking up to
your own accord, meaning you don't have your own circadian
clock in rhythm, if you're immediately not getting outside,
whether it's, you know, overcast or not, the still there's,
there's still radiation coming through.
If you're not getting that window of light on your face and
your eyes, if it's not getting your retina hitting, you know,
the nervous system, there's all these technical parts.
I won't bore you with the science, but photobiomodulations
entering our system and is activating the nervous system to
turn on that starts a cycle of production of neurotransmitters.
Acetylcholine turns into other forms of phosphatidylcholine.
These are what builds cell membranes.
This is what triggers the immune system.
This is what activates who you are, and if you're skipping that
cycle, you're not only you're missing out on all that, but
you're not even in a position to manufacture melatonin.
Melatonin begins on the rise, and so.
What you're saying is your nighttime routine, your sleep
routine, starts the minute you wake up.
That's right. Yep.
And you can't circumvent that with, you know, pharmacology.
You can't circumvent that with any technology.
You can't do a, you know, vagal toning to super to circumvent
that. All the origin story begins with
sunlight on the body, on the naked body, if you can, on the
in the eyes, on the scalp, big muscle parts, all of that at
least 30-40 minutes. Now, am I advocating that you're
in some Equatorial region not wearing sunblock from 11:00 AM
to 3:00 PM? Of course not.
That's the there. There's common sense that
applies here. Also, everybody's skins a little
bit different. You know, people that are from
Norway, they don't need as much sunlight to to basically photo
biomodulate the D3 production, which is a hormone actually
through the cholesterol of the skin.
They're just genetically dispositioned to need less
sunlight than someone who's from more of an Equatorial region
that's got darker melanin production.
So it's and they're also more prone to burn, right.
So it's really common sense with sunlight.
You got to get sunlight on your face, but I wouldn't advise
summertime in Southern California to get direct
sunlight on your face from 10:45 AM to two 3:00 PM.
That's just too much of an insult on the on the skin.
If you're worried about, you know, not creating spots or
having discoloration or having sun damage.
So again, it's everything is common sense and there's a
dosage for everything to have a practical value in your life.
I completely agree. I love that you mentioned common
sense. That's what I always say too.
It's like it's a such a nuanced conversation and the answer is
not avoided at all costs. Figure out what's right for you
based on all of the different factors that you mentioned.
Is there a correlation between consuming seed oils and your
susceptibility to sun damage? Yeah, the, the evidence is
clear. You know, if you have an
accumulation of trans fats in your body, they start to get
pushed out towards the visceral regions into the epidermis, into
the skin. And sunlight potentiates, you
know, adipose fat turning into, you know, toxic inflamed
material and that causes Lipofuscan and other things to
occur and can ultimately start leading more towards more
dangerous pathologies and things of that nature for me.
Every time you look at a label or every time you got to go a
little bit deeper than that too, you know, you got to investigate
who it is it's coming from. And that's really at the end of
the day, that's an act of self love.
You know, I, I think all of the things we're talking about
getting up, having a ritual, getting your spring water in,
hanging upside down, doing your mantras, doing your breath work,
don't touch the phone before you do all of that stuff, whatever.
These are all acts of self love. And I think it's it's unselfish
to do that because you are doing these things for yourself so
that you can be a better version of you for the people in your
life and for the world at large. Hallelujah.
Does anyone think it's selfish to to do those things I.
Think some people think of it as being selfish and so they're
like, I have to do this. I have to, you know, get back to
this person, yadda, yadda. But it's like, no, if you don't
take that time to charge your your battery, you're not going
to be able to do the things that you need to do for others for
very long. I completely agree.
And and usually people that are so depleted are unconsciously
vampiric by nature, right? Exactly because if you're and I,
and I know this, I've just, I've been around the community, I've
been around different walks of people, people that are
completely depleted, mind, body and soul have no clue on what's
going on inside of them. They're usually in a, in some
form of escapism, right? Because they're just, they got
to escape out of it. They don't why they don't feel
good. And those are the people that
are also reaching for things that aren't good for them.
You know, usually if you're, if you're sick, you have autoimmune
conditions, you have fun fungus infections, you have rotting
cavitations in your mouth. There's a lot of people have
this, your complete microbiome is dilapidated.
That's the person usually most of the time that is reaching for
something to just get him out of that mentally because they're
they're sick. That's also the person who's not
showing up for the next person and who's unconsciously, you
know, stealing energy from somebody else.
So, yeah, you're right. We got to get, I guess, a little
bit more selfish so we can show up for people.
We need a healthy population. Like, I want someone to be the
best teacher ever. I want someone to be the best
podcaster ever. I want someone to be the best
farmer ever. I want someone to be the best
tennis player ever, best surfer ever.
Whatever it is, in order to do that we have to be on top of our
game. All the best versions of
yourself come through a committed practice of self love,
and that's putting it back into the ecosystem of friendship,
brotherhood, sisterhood, family love.
I really want to meet someone at a full glass because when we can
meet together, then the synergy is real.
We're not talking about depletion depletion.
We're not even talking about 1 + 1 is 2 at that point when full
glasses meet each other, it's infinite potential.
Every time I get with, you know, some of some of my cool tribe,
we just, we, we're cracking codes.
It's we're not talking about a bunch of regurgitated nonsense.
We're not talking about the weather for more than three
seconds. It moves on to something that's
significant. And we also are able to
challenge each other to get into places that are uncomfortable.
And that's really part of and being human is getting
uncomfortable. Now, do I want to like make
someone cry all the time or I want to be on?
No, of course not. But you build A level of trust.
And that's I think the point of relationships to be that
ultimate mirror. If you're just unconscious
together and hiding problems together and escaping together,
not only are you you're going to go down together, but.
Your life's going to just smoke by before you even know it and
you're. And that's a whole thing, too,
yeah. That's good.
And that's not to say that you can't ever like meet 1/2 glass
fuller and kind of pour into them and bring them up because
we all, we're never all going to have our glasses full all the
time. But if you put some
intentionality into kind of creating that baseline, there's
a greater chance that you will have more in your tank than
someone who doesn't. Before we fully move away from
the sunshine conversation, I have to ask you a question.
I saw your Instagram post about sunning your testicles, and I
need to know more about this. Is this something that every man
should be doing? What are the benefits?
Tell us. I mean, I like that.
That was epic. Everyone always asks me that.
Yeah, I, I mean, like we weren't designed to wear clothes, right.
Just like we weren't really designed to live in buildings.
We weren't designed to be living in temperature controlled
buildings and light controlled buildings.
These are all modern world, I guess conveniences that have a
Trojan horse aspect to it. And so if we can get sunlight,
perennial sunlight into areas that have been completely shut
off from the natural world, we're probably looking at some
increases in biochemical responses in the human body.
And so there's some good data around sunlight getting into
that area. That increases kinesis in the
body, which then increases hypothalamus, pituitary, adrenal
access, you know, follicle statin, follicle stimulating
hormone, and all of the testosterone production.
That really activates mitochondrial synthesis
especially, and that is really driving us to be at our peak.
And so yes, I like to do that. I think it's awesome.
I feel really good doing it. My brother-in-law does that here
at the farm sometimes. Your brother knows what's up.
I mean, it's also primal too, right?
So we talk about all the science behind it, but there's something
primal about getting exposed to the sun and areas that some
people have never had sunlight touch them in their entire life.
Now am I saying wander down the street naked in front of
everyone? Think like finding the right
spot is is important and probably challenging for some
people. I mean, so in low testosterone,
that's a big topic right now. Huge.
What else can men do to support their testosterone levels
naturally? They can squat.
That's one of the greatest squat heavyweights you know, obviously
like understand your body's ability, take time, don't get
injured. Maybe you need to do a front
kettle squat first, or just air squats.
But engaging your hamstring, your quads, your glutes, your So
as almost every gain of function muscle from the neck down is
occurring on the squat. You're causing such a force to
be A, to occur that the central nervous system has to adapt to
that stress and that stress then releases, you know, secret togs
like growth hormone, adrenaline, other pituitary compounds.
And in that process your testosterone can spike.
Another thing is, you know, something like Sheila Jeet,
right, which is a mineral dark black mumi resin.
And the reason Sheila Jeet's not a, it's an adaptogen, but it's
not a testosterone precursor per SE, but it's just so densely
filled with minerals and most people are depleted of minerals.
And if you don't have minerals in your body, you can forget
about any type of like balanced biochemically, right?
And so that's a good way sunlight, of course, sprinting
those. Like fast switch movements.
High intensity interval training is just key.
VO2 Max. All of those things are primary
for longevity and preventing comorbidities down the line.
And I'm a huge fan. Like I'm not a long distance
guy. Like I'll go on like epic 712,
maybe 15 mile hikes because that's an experience that I'm
doing with my crew, whether it's Nepali coast or somewhere in
ISON or even here in Laguna Beach.
But in terms of training and cardiovascular, I'm more of a
Sprint guy. I love to Sprint, I love to
jump, I love plyometrics, and that's for both men and women.
Everyone should do that, yeah. I love, I, I know you've talked
a lot about just jumping and the, and rebounding or just like
doing just jumping, even if you don't have a rebounder and how
that benefits your lymphatic system.
I actually will do like 20 jump squats after almost every meal.
I try to, I love that. I, I love that you're doing that
because we're not supposed to just be sitting around eating
and not moving that, you know, sedentary life is the opposite
of all things being equal, activation, optimization,
health. Sedentary might be worse than
bathing in toxic water. And I, and you guys know how I
feel about bathing in toxic water.
That's a whole rabbit hole. We could probably do 10 hour
conversation on that. Being infested and loaded with
Candida and parasites and microorganisms that are out of
balance. I think sedentary lifestyle
creates homes for all that. So the balance isn't there.
So if you're not moving, not only are you metabolically
challenging yourself, but immunologically you're shutting
down your body's ability to attack, adapt.
Your T1 cells, your natural killer cells, all rely on
movement. You have to activate the body
and people that are not walking at least 10,000 steps a day are
really setting themselves up for failure.
And I love the fact that you, you talked about jumping.
Rebounding is awesome. Rebounding causes a slight G
force that opens up the lymph nodes and gets some plasma
moving in the body. And it's really important for
kidney function and detox pathways.
Everybody's talking about like, you know, the lymph now because
of beauty stuff. Just so crazy.
We've been doing the craziest limb stuff our entire life.
Rebounding is an excellent way of opening that up, especially
with niacin and activated charcoal and and you know, hot
saunas like getting into that 16165 range.
So all of those things together. It's a great combination
Cellular Detox protocol 101 I put that on my social media or.
After sauna. So you rebound before the sauna.
The sauna opens up the limbs. Everything that you just
mentioned. OK, so you're you drink 30
ounces of spring water with half a teaspoon of like Celtic or
Icelandic sea salt. Then you take anywhere between
100 to 500 milligrams of niacin B3, which is the that'll.
Flush you. Yeah, you want the flush kind.
And niacin is nicotinic acid. It's a precursor to NAD and NMN
and all the other active B3 metabolites.
So the niacin flush isn't bad, it's.
Phenomenal. It's causing vasodilation.
At a few times and I'm like, what's going on?
Like if I take it without food that happens.
Yeah, I mean, I'm addicted to it because I know what's happening.
My cells are basically like scraping off metabolic
excrement. Really.
Yeah, it's phenomenal. So, so you you jump on the
rebounder, you take the nice and kind of at the same time you
start to flush. Then you get into the sauna.
Little bit of coconut oil. Yes, little bit of coconut oil.
Maybe a guasha, maybe some good breath work in there.
You come out for about 5-10 minutes, get back in the sauna,
do another 1520 minutes, Max it out, come out and then hit, you
know, half a gram of charcoal and then at the very end, OK,
that's a really. Fast on.
An empty stomach. That's a easy, quick cellular
detox. That would be quite the routine.
Yeah. And you can probably knock that
out in like 90 minutes. Yeah.
So it's just 90 minutes and you're taking the burden off.
Yeah, once a week, once every two weeks for sure.
Yeah. We, you know, the whole thing
with people are scared to engage, to do these things
'cause they think it's so difficult, it's so hard.
It's so out of their routine, let me tell you.
Like you got to just start sharpening the blade at some
point and you don't go from like a dull butter knife to a razor
sharp knife after 2-3 days. So just give yourself some time
and once you start stacking some wins and the blade starts
getting sharper, you get sharper and you start to feel that
momentum because health is all about momentum.
Momentum is probably the perfect perspective to have on your
health and your, your life cycle of health and staying in the
health span before entering the disease span and momentum can go
any direction. This is a, this is a lifetime of
moving. And once you start moving in any
direction, the speed consequence increases.
It's inertia, right? It's like a boulder or like a
snowball. The snowball speed gets heavier
as it gets or gets faster as it gets heavier.
I was literally thinking about this this morning.
Like I sometimes after slacking off on having making good
choices, good health choices, I will start to feel sluggish and
just not, not great. And then after like some
consistency, after I implement some consistency again, I'm
like, oh, like there's a shift. Like it's a switch.
It can go One Direction or the other direction, exactly like
what you're describing with the snowball.
The snowball effect can go in either direction and with some
consistency, you know, in the right direction, it just becomes
easier and easier and easier to continue on that direction.
I want to talk about parasites because you know so much about
parasites. How common are they and what do
people need to be aware of when it comes to parasites?
Parasites are common. Everybody's got parasites as
part of being human. It's part of being in whatever
this thing is, and we have to have a a true understanding of
how do we contract them, What does it mean to be in mutualism
with them and where does it get to a point where you do need to
bring the burden down? Without the erratic mindset that
I have to cleanse my body and detox, which actually takes you
out of balance and puts more stress on the system, you can't
actually approach a emotional or physical problem through a state
of mind of fear. Fear will only perpetuate the
problem. And from my understanding
through anthroposophical wisdom is that when you're in a fear
state, I don't care what biologics you work with.
I don't care what the strategy is or modality.
You're never ever going to be able to penetrate where you're
trying to get to in that state. And it makes total sense because
the the fear fight flight is really putting your body in a
state of survival, right? It's.
The level of paralysis that there's no like progress becomes
a lot more difficult. That's right.
Yeah. You're like, you just turn
climbing up a a nice hill into like a peak mountain where if
you don't have a rope, you're going to be in trouble.
And there's a really good book, Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers, and
that's a phenomenal book. I always talk about it because
I've read it like 50 times. The zebra is just sitting in a
pasture like this, hanging with the family, eating the grass,
and in a split second 6 lions are chasing it to eat it alive
in front of its kids. And it's got to activate flight
within a second. So every single biological
system in the body goes from homeostasis to extreme, from
thermal to sweat to adrenaline to heartbeat.
I can go on and on. And about 9 times out of 10 the
zebra gets away within 5 minutes of the lions giving up.
Chase the zebras back to homeostasis like nothing ever
happened. Completely.
Literally every metric is back, yet humans are the exact
opposite. We don't have a lion chasing us
right now, but because of the news cycle, the cell phones,
unregulated nervous system, you know, vagus nerve is completely
out of whack. Microbiome issues,
neurotransmitter issues, heavy metals, parasites, and just
trauma, like childhood trauma that just hasn't been worked on.
You're constantly in that state. And if you're in that state and
I tell you that you might have, you know, ringworm and other
parasites like toxoplasmosis because you've been harboring
cats in your house and you eat sushi once a month, how are you
going to handle that situation? You're not.
So you, we got to get our nervous system into a balanced
state before we approach something like parasites.
That's first and foremost. And then there's a, a process of
getting the lymphatic system going and getting the kidneys
going before you do any type of detox plan.
Because if you pour on materials and compounds, you know,
Wormwood or whatever it is, all the different compounds and you
have, you have a clogged piping system, your lift system is not
open and your kidneys are a little bit underperforming, then
you're just causing that stuff to recirculate throughout the
body. And those are the people that
get Herximer reaction, which is basically a common flu feels
like you have the flu because you've, you've disturbed the
peace, you created the attack. They're doubling down on
antigens and other materials. They're pooping all over your
body and then all of a sudden you don't have the pathways open
to bring them out. And most of these parasites,
they live behind biofilms. Biofilms are sludge and other
materials that they are created a defense system around, whether
it's in your liver or in your colon or in fatty tissue or in
your brain or wherever it is. And so there is a very
methodical way of approaching this.
It starts with getting your nervous system regulated from
then certain compounds, certain detox pathway strategies, maybe
some Ivs. We created a formula called Para
X, which in my opinion, is the most thoughtful and
sophisticated formula that's ever been created in the history
of mankind. Wow.
And I've heard you describe it a few times.
Can you give just a quick maybe explain a few of the key
ingredients in this product because it's really fascinating
when I've heard you talk about it?
Well, there's over 36 compounds in there, but it's a little bit
different than your, you know, your standard.
We call them weeds and seeds detox plans that are sold on
social media that are just basically ground up material and
capsules. We did the opposite of that.
We use that actual bio actives of those materials to
standardize extracts. These are liquid capsules that
are made of thyme, clove, mono Lauren, oregano oil that have
been ozonated. Who does that?
Ozone. That you guys did that?
We're berserk, you know? So if you don't know what ozone
is, ozone is how the atmosphere cleans itself after a rain.
You can smell ozone. It's O3.
It's a heavy oxygen molecule, and it basically rips through
anything that has a specific polarity.
So that's viruses, parasites, bacterias, infections.
I do IBO ozone once every three months.
It's a complete blood dialysis. I've never done Abu.
I want to but I. Haven't pass or.
Generator at home and so I'll do like rectal insufflations with
the gas or I have some ozonated olive oil suppositories, you
guys should make those. Yeah, I mean, you, you never
know, maybe. I mean, we're, we're tripling
down on our liposomal tech right now.
So maybe that'll come back around.
But I'm a big fan of all that. Anything Ozone.
I'm stoked. For it's great for parasites,
right? Great for parasites, great for
candida, great for infections, great for fungus and mold.
We have so many cool compounds in there like luteolin, but
there's one of them specifically I want to talk about caffeic
acid. Finethyl Ester is one of the
main compounds that's in para X. And you know, we are, we have
bees at our farm and bee husbandry and understanding how
bees work in our world is so full on.
Like I, I invite everyone to go into the mysteries of the bee
lectures by Rudolf Steiner to really get a cosmic connection
to what pollinators are in our world and how their
sensitivities to our frequency is so measured and so received.
And what's interesting is you, you know what bee propolis is,
right? Propolis is built up on the hive
and acts as a shielding protector for the hive to not
get infected with fungus and mold and other weird insects
coming in there. So Mother Nature selected
propolis as the protector of the pollinators home.
So if you if you can grasp what that means on a cosmic level,
the intelligence around that and how important that decision is.
The main compound in B propolis is caffeic acid, finethyl Ester
and that is antiviral, antimicrobial, antiparasite,
anti anti everything in the best way ever as a modulator.
And so we have that. It is one of the 36 compounds
that are in the para X formula. So the para X is not a search
and destroy kill everything in the body.
That's not how that works. It's turning on the potential of
the immune system to be able to see everything and removes the
cloak on all the things that are bad and forward in the body.
It's really an impressive formula and I'm just stoked to
be part of it. Yeah, I really need to try it.
I have been wanting to try it for a while.
Is it something that you can take on an ongoing basis?
Can anyone take it? What does that look like?
It, it's set up for adults just because it's such a radical
formula that, but I don't recommend it to children.
And it's also, you could take it in perpetuity because it's not a
cleanse. It's activating so many things
in the body. And so most people are under the
gun immune system wise. And so I know people that I've
been on it for a year and a half straight and they swear by it
and they love it. I take it probably 2-3 months on
and then I take a few weeks off and I get back on it.
Yeah, I believe in cyclical nature of things, unless it's
like magnesium or B vitamins or certain things, most things
supplement wise, herbology wise. Do you need to cycle?
So everyone has parasites. It's not about eradicating them
completely, it's about not being overrun by them.
And some of the ways that we can strengthen the body to not be
completely taken over by parasites is to.
Lower the burden. Yes, lower.
Yeah, lower the we. Want to lower the burden?
So we can regulate our nervous system, take para X, practice
things that help the lymphatic system flow like it should.
How do people come into contact with parasites and how do we
even like get them initially? Well, I mean, there's, there's
things like H pylori and Gerardia and, you know, liver
flukes and tapeworms and ringworms.
I mean, it's full on. Like, you know, the different
types of microbes that are out there.
You could walk barefoot on a farm and pick something up.
You never know. It could be in the meat supply,
it could be in the water supply. H pylori is found in tap water,
right? Raw fish, you know.
Your favorite pet? We're always potentially exposed
to parasites. Cats are particularly.
Cats carry toxoplasmosis, you know, and Toxoplasma gondi, when
it's in the body and becomes toxoplasmosis is a very
interesting parasite where it Burrows, it gets into the
central nervous system. That's the cat parasite.
I've talked about it before. It triggers, you know, fibrilous
behavior. There's a whole thing that when
the rat gets the toxoplasmosis, the rat chases the cat to get
eaten, go back to the host. So there's like mind control
there. The laws of Physiology and and
nature are very tripped out when you look at it from a broad
perspective and not from like an allopathic lens.
There's purpose behind everything.
Everything in nature, everything around us right now.
There's a perfect harmony of how microbes work.
We see that in the, in the mushroom world, in the fungi
world, you know how there's a, there's an innate intelligence
on the communication and the bridges of, of how all these
things are working. The same thing with parasites
and microorganisms. Again, my thing is, is you don't
want to be overburdened by it. If you have flukes in your
liver, you're that's not a good thing.
And we got it. We got to push that back down.
By lessening our parasitic load, we can take some of that burden
off of the immune system so that it's strong enough to fight off
whatever it comes into contact with.
And when it's suppressed on a continuous basis, that's when
you're saying like cancer or maybe autoimmunity, things like
that are more likely to occur. Exactly.
Yeah, it a dysregulated immune system that's constantly on like
low grade inflammation that's dangerous.
You know, we want to have inflammation like if you sprain
your ankle, right, your ankle is supposed to get swollen.
Why? Because the body is sending
blood there that has growth factors, white blood cells,
natural killer cells, you know, different, different things that
are help promote the healing of the tendons and the ligaments.
You know, I don't know why we're we put ice packs on them.
You're not supposed to do that because that constricts it and
doesn't allow it to happen. Yeah, we'll get you back in the
game tomorrow. But you keep doing that over
time you're going to have damage.
It's the same thing with our immune system.
We want to have an inflammatory response, but we don't want it
to be constantly low grade. Low grade is what brings us
towards disease. What about our thoughts?
Our mood? How do parasites affect the way
we think? I mean, it creates erratic
behavior, you know, just think like a parasite.
Why, why do they call it lunatics?
Right, Because it's, you know, there's ticks in the body and
it's it's it's on the full moon. There is, there is, you know,
there is evidence like this doesn't have to get super airy
fairy, but there's a cosmic connection to our sun and moon.
The moonlight has a frequency to it.
Why does it change the tides? Why does it activate certain
people? Why do a lot of women menstruate
towards the moon? Either on the new moon or full
moon? There's a whole thing to this.
My mom was a kindergarten teacher.
She's retired now, but she said on the full moon her class would
be berserk. Yeah, perfect word berserk.
I love it. The moon has a frequency and
parasites have been shown to have reaction and activations
during that time. And that may maybe that's a time
that they're there to express, to move around, Whatever it is,
there's a whole thing to that. And so in terms of behavioral,
you know, your, your complete disregard for your metabolic
safety on reaching for that double chocolate cookie at 11:00
PM could be a signal from a parasite.
You never know. Because they want sugar.
Yeah, and they want to destroy their host by definition, right?
That's why they don't want to destroy, OK?
They want to take you to the brink, but they don't want you
to die because they'll go with you, right?
So they just, they want to have you humming in that state and
dysregulated state. That's how they thrive.
I mean, there's a whole thing
like, you know, you got to coax out the parasite to actually
kill it. That's the whole thing.
Like you put turpentine on a sugar cube, right?
And the sugar brings them out and the turpentine comes as a
solvent and waxes them out. And I, I definitely feel like
the more overrun a human body is on parasites, it's in the brain,
it's in the Burrows. They like the myelin sheath.
They, they like the soft tissue, you know, that's like, that's
like gorging themselves with the perfect food.
And it's like, this is epic. Got a little geek audience.
And you know, people are are now correlating multiple sclerosis
Ms. with, you know, doctors that have run samples post mortem and
seeing that there is obvious signs of parasitic infections
where these areas are. And so it's we have to figure
this thing out. We got to be on top of it.
And again, you can't come from a place of like freaking out and
getting super scared. You got to just take it step by
step and know that your body is meant to heal.
We all have that potential. And and that's why a lot of the
things you asked me earlier about sunlight, proper sleep,
grounding to the earth, whatever it is, those have to be in place
because if those are not in place, forget about it.
None of those, none of this thing will will will work out.
What about fasting in general? I want to hear your thoughts in
general. And then when it comes to
parasites, is it helpful in controlling your parasitic load
at all? Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I'm a huge faster. There's no clinical evidence
that Trump's caloric restriction in terms of reducing cellular
senescence, which is basically cells going senile or going into
a cancer state than fasting. It beats everything out there.
There's no, there's no pharmacology.
There's no, there's no other method except fasting.
Turning your body's entire digestive system off causes a
recalibration of how the body goes through the citric, citric
acid cycle, which is basically, we learned it as mitophagy or
cellular autophagy, things like that.
Your body, at some point in the fasted state, tells every cell
it's time to go and accumulate for energy purposes.
Everything in the body that does not serve you.
And that could be mold, that could be parasite, that could be
cancer, that could be tumors, that could be benign or
malignant, doesn't matter. That could be infections in the
body before it starts wasting away.
The amino acid profile of your muscles, it's going to go after
the visceral fat, right? That's the dangerous
inflammatory, high inflammatory response areas in the body,
usually in the abdomen region that that your body puts all the
poisons at because it pushes it away from the organs.
And so for me, if you're not on some kind of fasting schedule,
you're behind the boat completely.
And I know it looks different for men and women, but there is
a common law that you you need to find the timeline that works
for you through your own personal experience.
I think every woman can get away with fasting for 24 hours a day
once a week. It's not going to destroy your
hormones. It's going to allow your body to
reset a little bit. I personally like to go at least
48 hours. For me, that's kind of my sweet
spot. Usually after a day and a half,
two days, that's when you kind of get through the like I need
to eat something and the magic really starts to happen around
that time. Intermittent fasting schedules
are good too, to a certain degree.
I like the one meal a day, the OMAD diet.
I used to be someone that would eat at like 4:00 or 5:00 PM and
then that was it. I've moved it up to my main meal
being around 10 AM. That's when our stomach acids
are at its highest peak. I also like to go to sleep in a
fasted state. Yeah, I get the best sleep when
I have fasted. I did a lot of fasting in
between when I stopped breastfeeding my second child
and when I got pregnant with #3 and haven't like fully gotten
back into it since having #3 But today, in honor of this episode,
since I knew you were into fasting, I've fasted all day so
I haven't eaten. All right, let's go.
Cold because I get colder fast, you know, but I'm like, man,
this is I remember this feeling. I miss this feeling of just
being so clear headed, so sharp. It really is like such a nice
reset and refresh. And I know, like, I do hear that
a lot, like it's not good for women when women shouldn't do
it. And to that I say women have
been fasting since the beginning of time, whether intentionally
or out of necessity. And we are perfectly capable
that I think you can overdo anything.
And yes, like, I do like, factor my cycle into it and do it at
the right Times Now, which I didn't do before.
That's helpful. But we're not like these
weaklings. Like we are totally capable of
going without food for periods of time if you do it the right
way. You are speaking music and
Symphony to my soul right now. I just really appreciate the
courage you have for saying that and standing in your power.
So back to my experience, you know, because I questioned it,
you know, hearing this a lot, like women shouldn't fast.
Women shouldn't fast. I'm like, am I doing the right
thing here? And then I'm like, no, I feel
great every time I do it. And yeah, like I said, there's
obviously nuances to it, but it's not something like don't
throw the baby out with the bathwater.
People are getting no sea boat all the time, which is the
opposite of a placebo. They're hearing something and
then, oh, yeah, it doesn't work for me, right.
And that already setting yourself up for failure, right.
And we're such a the, you know, species of reflecting
everybody's energy around us and what they have to say.
That's why words are so powerful.
That's why spelling is casting spells.
That's why more Magic is real, is that we start hearing things,
we start to believe these things.
I learned that from a good friend of mine, Doctor Bruce
Lipton. The biology of belief is real,
and what you think and how you act in every emotion is
ultimately creating the epigenetic channel of how your
body starts to move throughout life.
And so you hear a lot that fasting is terrible for women.
How do you know that? Have you tried it?
Have you experienced it? Have you gone into a fasting
experience while being healthy, right?
Are you eating healthy fats? Are you getting a good Omega
profile? Do you have good saturated fat
in your body? If you're if you're depleted
again, you have rotting cavitations in your mouth, you
have heavy metal toxicity. I can go on and on.
You're loaded with candida. I'm sure fasting is not going to
feel good, but when you, once you turn off the digestive
system that allows your body to search and destroy and remove
everything that does not serve you, they say, you know, turn
off the switch of, of the body of food and activate the soul.
And so I'm a big believer in fasting.
I've done long fast, you know, I've gone into the 20s, you
know, and it's a, it's a rite of passage.
And I this will be what I'll do for the rest of my life for
sure. Yeah, love it.
Yeah, we haven't talked about hydration yet, another big
topic. The most important everything is
the most important topic. It all matters.
I think we're catching a trend here is that there's a lot of
value in these things. I think a lot of people know the
importance of drinking water and being hydrated, and I think
people in general do drink a lot of water but may still not be
hydrated. Why is that?
I, I'm going to say I, I would say 90% of the country right now
is clinically dehydrated. And maybe even more than that,
just understanding, just being around it, understanding what
people are drinking and eating, understanding how they're
living, the fact that they're not under sunlight, the fact
that you know, they're, they're bathing in tap water, the fact
that they're not getting the right salts in their body,
things of that nature. These are all conditions to
pushing hydrogen and water out of the body and acting as
diuretics. And almost everything that we
do. If you're, if you're, if you
pinch your skin and if your skin doesn't go back to, to proper
form within like a second, you're definitely dehydrated.
You see how mine's staying a little bit white.
That means I'm probably a little bit dehydrated right now and I
can feel I'm a little bit dehydrated because my mouth is
just a little a little bit dry. Have our hydrogen.
We should have our hydrogen one, but let's do it.
We're going to throw. Symbiotica, we're going.
To throw our molecular hydrogen in here tablets.
This is epic. Check that out.
Cheers. Salute and so you can't properly
digest food. You can't properly assimilate
food and then ultimately evacuate food or activate all
the things that your body needs biologically if you are lacking
water in the cell. And not all water is equal, and
water drink in the wrong form actually acts as a solvent and
it pulls and chelates things out of the body and so.
What is water in the wrong form? Water in the wrong form is water
that's been sitting in plastic that's gone that that might have
come from some municipal tap water and they've staged it
through like a 12 stage, you know, filtration system or not
even 12 stage, maybe 4 stage reverse osmosis, things of that.
We're not that's dead water. That water has no purpose.
All it does is act as a solvent. Look at that right there.
Look at those micro bubbles. That's all hydrogen conversion
in the H2O right there. Hydrogen is the foundation of
life. It's the first element on the
periodic table. It's the smallest element in the
world. 97% of the world that we know of is made of hydrogen.
It's the strongest and smallest antioxidant in the human body
and it's it neutralizes a very pesky free radical called
hydroxyl that sits around the DNA and causes, you know,
cellular senescence and radical aging and quick, quick aging.
Molecular hydrogen has over 1500 peer reviewed published studies
on it. I've been a molecular hydrogen
junkie. I got the Browns gas machine at
my house. I bathe in molecular hydrogen.
So do. You put these tablets in the
bath. I sometimes put the tablets in
the bath, but I also have a machine that does that as well.
You know you'd probably need about like 20 of these to get a
a decent run you. Should sell like pucks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Collaborate on that, yeah.
Well, we're, we're we, we looked at something like that, but.
Bath bombs. Hydrogen bath.
Bombs, hydrogen bath bombs would be a good idea.
The the dehydration thing is real.
If you have dry mouth you are really dehydrated.
Dry mouth is like the last telltale sign, you know, and all
of your symptoms, irregular heartbeat, brittle hair, skin
issues, you know, not properly sleeping, you know, chronic
fatigue, all of that could be from a lack of electrolyte salts
and water in the body. The potassium, the calcium, the
magnesium, the sodium. If those are out of balance,
then your internal pump, your sodium pump is off.
If that's out of out of regulation, then your electrical
system is off. Hydration just means
electricity, essentially. It's just like the ocean.
The ocean is a big current. That's how you know dolphins and
whales are signaling. That's how sharks are able to
like understand where they're going.
It's through that salt current. It's the same thing with the
human body. So it's not just drinking the
water, it's actually getting it into the cell.
And how we do that is through minerals.
It's through minerals and salts, yeah, combination of those.
So like every rise, when I get up I do a combination of
molecular hydrogen and I do a half teaspoon of Icelandic or
Celtic sea salt and I. Together.
And I slowly drink that.
I don't wolf it down. Yeah, I experience it.
I sloshed it around my mouth. I let it get into the cellular
membranes in my mouth. And I also, I can feel, I, I
visualize what's happening. I can see my cells feeling the
electric current and then absorbing that water, that
hydrogen in there. Because you could, again, you
could drink all the water, but is it actually getting into the
interstitial tissue? Is it actually getting into the
marrow? Is it getting into the cells?
Most of the time it's not. And now you're just pulling,
pulling stuff out of your body and then you're drying up
everywhere and then you're cosmetically trying to put
things over it so you can look and feel better about yourself
when the whole time you're completely dehydrated.
It's just it's kamikaze. What about tap water?
What do people need to be aware of when it comes to tap water?
Why should they avoid it? Either drinking or bathing,
showering in tap water. This has become like, you know
your viral reels now people talking about tap water.
Tap water is just dead water. Not only is it got fluoride and
chlorine in it. Pharmaceuticals.
Yeah, very likely, depending on if you're in a metropolitan city
and they do grey water capture and they do all that stuff, it's
very likely that you're getting exposed to certain, you know,
you know, certain, like they're almost there steroids, right?
You're getting some type of compound in there that's
affecting your hormone centers. And a lot of contraceptives are
fresh down the toilet and pharmaceuticals and things like
that. But we also have glyphosate and
we have other weird insecticides and herbicides, fungicides.
These things are inherent in our water streams and in our
municipal top water. They're not protected by an
aquifer, right? And so I always say the fastest
way of getting a toxin or drug in the human body is not by
drinking it, it's by bathing in it.
Why? And people will usually go
because your skin's the biggest organ.
That's part of it, but you're breathing in the vapor.
A lot of people like to take hot showers.
And I'm just like, you can't take a hot shower at your hotel
in downtown LA. Like, don't do that.
Don't sit in the bathtub in there.
I don't care how pretty the jacuzzi is in that penthouse.
It's just like, it's common sense and you can be eating all
the best food and doing all your green juices and doing all the
cool stuff, but then you're just mainlining thousands of harsh,
harsh chemicals into the body that have a very difficult time
to get out. And these are the same materials
that are feeding the parasites, you know, that are feeding
certain things in the human body that they love to proliferate
on. And so like, just like iron
exposure to, like, you know, a lot of bacteria and infections
in the body love iron. And iron is gnarly for the human
body if it's in the wrong form and the body's not absorbing it
and storing it properly. That's what we were talking
about the other day when we launched our colostrum formula.
Is that a big part of our full spectrum colostrum is
lactoferrin. Lactoferrin is basically milk
driving iron. That's a combination of it, and
it takes the iron where it needs to do where it needs to go.
So that kind of reminds me of bathing in tap water.
So get a heavy filtration system and drink spring water.
And what if you are somewhere where you know the water's not
clean, you have to, you're staying at a hotel or or
whatever you need to shower. What do you recommend?
Like 2 minute lukewarm shower. There it is.
That's it. Yeah, yeah.
Just be practical. Just don't sit in there for
10-15 minutes and on hot water scrolling your phone.
Yeah, easy. The phone, the phone scrolling
thing is really insane. I I just have to mention this.
So I went to a Laker game a couple weeks ago and we're so
like not present. I went to the bathroom in the
middle of like the second quarter and every dude in the
stall were were going to the bathroom and on their phone.
And I, it was so berserk. I yelled at everyone.
I said, even while you're in the bathroom doing a holy sacrament
of urinating, you're scrolling your phone.
You couldn't let it go. Just be one with the urination.
Sorry, that just popped in my head.
Couple people laughed. Couple people looked at me like
I was crazy. One guy, like, one guy behind me
was like, yeah, you're right, you know, because sometimes you
just got to, like, snap people out of their bullshit.
It's so true. You know, it's like a pattern
interruption. I'm a pattern interrupter.
Yeah. Like it's like you just can't,
can't really help it. I can't help it, Yeah.
Anytime I see someone who's just, like, in there, like, like
in the motions, I gotta, like, throw a lightning strike at him.
I love it. Yeah.
And sometimes it hits and. Believe that sometimes.
Their whole life goes in another direction or sometimes it's like
you're crazy. And then, but maybe they'll
think about it later, you know, you're planting a seed.
Planting a little seed. Yeah, what about alkaline water?
Is alkaline water Total BF? Yeah, alkaline water, especially
on some of those devices, is a disaster in my opinion.
Natural alkalinity from minerals from spring water is one thing,
but electrolysis on the water that's coming out of a tap,
that's not it. And if you raise the pH of that
water to, let's say in the nines, now you're causing a
disturbance in the gut and the gut in the oral microbiome.
And the acidity of the hydrochloric acid, which is made
of what it's made of, chloride salt, that's why you need salt,
is your first line of defense before anything else.
Your first line of defense is your stomach acids and that's
all the enzymes, that's the hydrochloric acid.
And so if you're just drinking like tap alkaline water, you're
neutralizing that because it, it won't happen once or twice.
But you're, if you're drinking that four or five days a week
for 2-3 years, what's happening to the alkalinity or, or the
acidity in your gut? You're becoming overly
alkalized, and alkalized people have trouble, have a lot of
trouble, and they're the ones that get sick all the time and
have problems. Yeah, says that.
No one says that you always blame acidity.
Yeah, no. Interstitial acidity becomes a
problem if you become acidosis and acidic and that's from
processed foods and not having good current in the body and
being dehydrated. This is completely different.
So alkaline? I always thought alkaline water
didn't actually alkalize the body.
But it it it, it doesn't alkalize the body, you're right.
But what it does is it causes a disturbance in the pH in the
gut. And we need the pH in the gut to
be in that 1.82 point O range. We need it to be breaking things
down properly. Yeah, so I was told once to do
like 1/2 a teaspoon of baking soda, mix that with water, and
that actually has an alkalizing effect on the whole body.
I'm a I'm a big fan of that. Don't do that every day, but do
that towards your cleansing and towards your fasting.
I'm a huge fan of sodium bicarbonate.
Just don't use the arm and hammer.
Use like a food grade. So we're big fans of animal
based products at Primarily Pure and Symbiotica just launched
their first animal based product, which is the liquid
colostrum that you're holding. I have some too and tell us
about it. I mean, this is a dream come
true. You know, I've, I'm a
qualitarian, which means that I consume foods that come from
quality places. I've discerned them.
And I've been a big fan of colostrum for at least since
2010, so about 15 years. And colostrum was one of those
things that back then was kind of on the black market, you
know, and we knew a crazy guy that would go to these small 50
Cal farms in Colorado Springs and cryogenically freeze the
colostrum and sell them for 10s of thousands of dollars a pound.
It was the whole thing. And all the professional
athletes that I know that we're on it.
And, you know, it's, it's an anabolic material.
Anabolic. It's like, you know, it builds
right versus catabolic, breaking things down, detoxifying.
And so the more I learned more about it, the more I just got
fascinated with it. And then I took a trip over to
Iceland. We have a lot of family and
friends and Rick outside of Reykjavik and went to a family
farm over there that literally their whole reality is
colostrum. And I spent a couple days with
them and this is like 10 generation family and I was on
it and I was just getting checked and getting strong and I
was training at the World Gym over there.
I weighed like 220 and I was just like out of peak.
And ever since then I've been a big fan of colostrum.
And then with Symbiotica, you know, I've just been floating
the idea of us being able to bring it.
I think it was, it was a perfect bridge to go into to getting out
of fully plant based and entering that phase.
And for me it was all about sourcing.
I had to see where we could figure out how to bring in the
best source. And me and my brother, my my
partner Shahab, he's he's my partner in symbiotic.
He's a childhood friend of mine. We just been going back and
forth on this for years. And we both agreed that we
wanted to do this, but we'd have to find the right source.
And so after 2-3 years of looking, I finally got referred
to a group that is a family owned operation, 4th generation
from Minnesota. And they had every certification
you can imagine. That was the first thing that
allowed me to get through that barrier.
And then went, I went over there and met them and they're just
like the sweetest family of all time and their kids and their
kids and then went out to the farms and at that point
realized, OK, now we got something here that's potential.
And then I went through their practice of, of how they, they
reserve the final tranche after the Cavs got fed, which is
common sense animal husbandry. And that they do, they do a
cryogenically freeze process. So all of the Aminos, the
peptides, the growth factors, the Iggs, all the, all the
immune function compounds in there are completely stabilized
and nothing is denatured. And it doesn't go through some
gnarly pasteurization process. It's bio active because the
moment you pasteurize dairy, it becomes a toxin, You know, like
just, it's just common sense. You're killing the enzymes.
Your body can't recruit the mineral base.
Then it becomes a lactose intolerant.
That whole thing is such a pile of shit.
I I don't even want to. I just ridiculous so I had.
Mark McAfee, who's the owner of Raw Farm, the largest raw dairy
office in the world, out a few months ago and it was a great
episode all about raw milk. I support them.
God bless them. Yeah, one of my good friends is
a works with them. He's a fighter.
And so, yeah, I mean, it's that is nature's, you know, offering
that is the it's a medicine, if you will.
And so once I got the material, I was just blown away.
I was like, I wanted to bathe in this stuff, you know what I
mean? It just like you could for sure.
Why not? And then we are symbiotica.
We are the masters at liposomes and we are the masters at
emulsions. And we're not.
We're the masters at doing it without weird toxic flavor
systems, weird toxic preservative systems.
Doing it with complete intention, understanding pH,
water activity, water content, literally like this is our IP.
This is our intelligence. Can you?
Explain the benefits of liposomal delivery for our
audience. Liposome means encapsulated in a
phospholipid or a fat. It's basically taking a
supplement, turning it back into the food.
We're not designed to be doing powders and capsules.
You know, the, the salinity and the, and the acidity of our
saliva and our gut acids and other factors in the GI tract
have no way of determining what this is.
And so by wrapping it into a phospholipid or a fat, we're
protecting those nutrients so they can make their way through
the GI, through the upper layers into the large intestines and
ultimately through the epithelial layer to get digested
properly. So we're turning supplements and
back into food. This was created in the 70s for
drug delivery systems because you had to get the exact ratios
in there. And we're doing it today in the
modern health world, but combining it with ancient
alchemy, Ayurveda, TCM, now, things like this.
Makes a lot of sense. So people are taking all these
powder encapsulated supplements and not actually absorbing?
Like how much would you say people are absorbing of those?
That's a tough question because it just depends on what it is,
if it's a mineral, if it's an herb, completely different.
But I would say for the most part, you're missing out at
least 4050% of what the claimed value is.
That's a lot. That's a lot, yeah.
And that's people are expecting results and they're paying a lot
of money for these things. And for us, we want not only to
have full absorption, but we want it to be experiential.
There's like an organoleptic experience, like the flavor, the
taste. All of our products are all
flavored by organic terpenes, literally the expression of
fruits and plants. We don't use any synthetic
natural flavors or any of that kind of stuff.
We use real raw terpenes, which is nature's expression.
So the colostrum isn't technically a liposome, but my
point is is that it's it's basically fat in an emulsion.
So the body recognizes it as a food.
And this was literally a dream for us because this has never
been done before. And typical symbiotic capacitor.
Yeah, this at least as an emulsion, it's never been done.
I've seen some tinctures out there, but I'm not sure how they
did that or what that even means.
I haven't investigated that. But this is the first full
spectrum, non denatured fresh colostrum that just was
harvested literally not two months ago and put immediately
into an emulsion. So you're this is as fresh as
it. It's like made to order.
I mean, I'll, I'll say this, all Symbiotica products are pretty
much made to order. We're going through such a fast
clip that we don't we're not, we don't stock up for two years, if
you get what I'm saying. They're literally made to order.
And so when you're getting a Symbiotica product, you're
getting something that literally just came off whatever farm or
whatever extraction process and is ready to rock'n'roll.
And this is it right here. This.
Very similar to primary pure how we do things.
Like attracts like, you know it's, that's how it is, right?
So what are the benefits of the colostrum itself?
You mentioned that you were in the gym, you felt stronger.
I know there's gut benefits, skin benefits.
Tell us about it. I mean, you just feel good.
I mean, that's the first thing I'll say.
We just did our launch 2 days ago.
So I was down at the symbiotic camp.
Symbiotic Campus. It was, it was two.
Yeah, it was a couple days ago. And if you haven't watched it, I
went berserk for about an A little bit over an hour.
I had my sidekick Shilpa Route. She's our VP of R&D.
She's incredible. She's a PhD wizard.
And me and her went crazy talking about every single thing
in here, how it works, what it means for gut permeability, what
it means for skin health, what it means for energy levels, what
is colostrum, what is lactoferrin, what are the main
compounds in there? How do immunoglobulins work?
All of those things. Just look at it like this is
what is colostrum in nature. It's how the the mother prepares
the newborn calf to activate their immunological senses.
So it's basically it's inoculating the the baby calf,
right? To turn on the wisdom in a good
way. In a good way, Yeah.
A good inoculation, just like how a baby goes through a womb,
right. And the and the fluids, right
And if you're C-section like me, I was born C-section.
OK, so we got this we got this This is why we chose this path,
right? It's not random.
And so think of colostrum is just like an umbrella of health
in every sense of the way and the best tasting material of all
time. Like when we first had it, we
were almost in tears. We couldn't believe because we
mix that with Icelandic sea salt that I harvested.
You got to see the videos, which is in the northwest part of
Iceland, which literally they use geothermal water to create a
heating system to selenize the the sea salt that's coming from
the fjord. It's unbelievable and it turns
into this white, flaky, full spectrum crystal.
That's the sea salt we have with this colostrum and organic
vanilla extract. That's it.
Try it. Can I try it?
Can I break my fast with this? Let's break your oh perfect fast
thing, right? OK, here we go.
Oh my gosh, this is really, really good.
It's like a dessert. It's like a dessert.
Wow, it's your favorite. Like French vanilla.
This is insane. Ice cream.
Wow. And so you just got 1.5 grams of
full spectrum colostrum? Yeah, it's.
Like, I want to savor, really savor it.
This might change the world. I'm going to just say it right
here. Symbiotica clot and I'm just
going to. But this, this is different.
I mean, this is a big deal. What are your other top
supplement recommendations for skin health specifically?
Well, you know, we have our Healthy Glow formula, which is a
novel beauty formula, and it's got all kinds of compounds in
there that pair well with this, our liposomal vitamin C.
You know, that's part of the process of how protein is
synthesized to create collagen. I think that's a phenomenal
angle. So if you combine colostrum,
Healthy Glow, vitamin C with hydration, your skin is stoked
and your skin is basically a representation of your body as
well. You know anything that can help
the detox pathways as well and liver health.
So our glutathione Coq 10 PQQ combo, which is basically, you
know, helping lower the burden of toxicity in the body.
That's really good for the skin as well.
Amazing. We also have a CMOS product
that's coming out. I don't know if I'm supposed to
be talking about it, but it's got, you know, a pretty good
dosage of Irish, organic, Irish CMOS with two trademark
compounds in there that come with clinicals that it's
phenomenal. Yeah, we're doing some close.
Yeah, so good. And I want everyone to know,
like Shirving didn't pay to come on here.
I invited him on like I am wanting him to talk about these
products because I. Don't want to talk about them?
And well, I wanted you to because people need to know
about them and you have so much expertise.
And I would really encourage people to download this episode,
take away what you can, implement what you can now and
then re listen a few months from now.
And I guarantee you they'll there will be more Nuggets of
information to to pull out of and.
Yeah, don't be stressed out on this information.
This is all stuff that you can just slowly start implementing.
And again, it's not crazy rocket science, it's just common sense
approach. Do yourself, you know, the the
greatest gift, it's act of self love.
You're worth it, you're worthy. Life isn't over.
It's not too late. Walk more everyday, get in the
sunlight, surround yourself with beautiful people that that see
you offer yourself, you know the sophistication of eating foods
that you know are going to take you higher things that are bad
for you. Just, you know, be curious and
why you did it in the first place.
You know, it's just like, be the investigator.
That's probably the main thing is like investigate your life.
Every night before I go to bed. It's a it's a Rosicrucian
practice. I investigate my entire day.
I really evaluate what went on today, How did I react to
certain thing, what irritated me about certain people.
That's the Carl Jung philosophy. I start to investigate because I
want to get better and better and better and start sharpening
that blade. You do that for 30 days,
Investigate your day. Not only are you on a totally
different level psychologically, but your memory capacity goes
through the roof. Like I always tell, like what
did I do last Tuesday at 7:00 AM?
Like I do test, I, I test like that because if you're not
creating that kind of impulse bandwidth, you're losing it,
right? And so just push yourself a
little bit. Have been have fun.
So good, so good. Symbiotica is also offering 20%
off and free shipping to our listeners, so you can go to
symbiotica.com/grounded Wellness for 20% off your order and free
shipping. Shervin, thank you so much for
coming out. So fun to have this
conversation. It's an honor to be here and
we'll definitely do this again. We might do this in Hawaii or
might have you guys come to Laguna and do it.
We got an epic spot there and we can get into, we can actually
start going deeper into some of these things.
Yeah. Yeah, we did like a really high
level overview of a lot of different things, but.
More implementation. Sat here for for hours I'm sure.
Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
It's an honor.